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Date:      Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:47:15 +0300
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        David Xu <davidxu@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-threads@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: PTHREAD_CANCEL_DEFERRED
Message-ID:  <20100814144715.GB2396@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <4C65E0FE.2030803@freebsd.org>
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On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:19:10AM +0800, David Xu wrote:
> Kostik Belousov wrote:
> >On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:23:51AM +0000, David Xu wrote:
> > =20
> >>David Xu wrote:
> >>
> >>   =20
> >>>>>if you don't call testcancel() in close() stub like current libthr d=
id,
> >>>>>B won't response to the cancel request, you lost the race.
> >>>>>         =20
> >>>>This situation should be handled by my proposal, since SIGCANCEL is
> >>>>delivered only
> >>>>- at the syscall entry point
> >>>>- at the syscall premature return
> >>>>Userspace would not get SIGCANCEL at time of [1], instead, signal will
> >>>>be delivered at [2].
> >>>>       =20
> >>>kernel may don't know if the syscall is cancelable, because it depends
> >>>on usage, if the close() syscall is used by fclose(), then the syscall
> >>>is not cancellation point, libc avoids this by using _close(),
> >>>and libthr does not override it. if kernel knows when a thread is at
> >>>cancellation point, then it needs another syscall to set and unset
> >>>the flag, but that's too expensive and in practical it is not
> >>>acceptable.
> >>>     =20
> >The kernel only decides whether to process SIGCANCEL specially. The
> >decision about the cancel point is still at the hands of the threading
> >library. The delivered SIGCANCEL goes through the same checks of
> >eligibility for cancellation as before. But it is only delivered now at
> >potential cancellation points for deferred case.
> >
> >Please see the patch at
> >http://people.freebsd.org/~kib//misc/cancel_defer.1.patch
> >for the proof of concept prototype.
> >
> > =20
> >>a bit out of topic, I also think that thread cancellation is not
> >>better than a simple signal, because it does not return to caller
> >>and force you to push and pop somethings, it may also be incompatible
> >>with some language's exception handling, why does not just use
> >>signal to interrupt syscall and let caller to check if the thread
> >>should exit, the UNIX is quite good at this.
> >>   =20
> >
> >This still does not give the answer of whether the syscall was executed.
> >I have to check for %pc to see when the signal was delivered. Also, to
> >be able to use signal in the way you suggested, I need a signal handler
> >installed. This is very inconvenient from the library.
> >
> >BTW, I looked at the Solaris cancellation(5) man page, and it seems that
> >Solaris implements the proper (from my POV) deferred cancellation:
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >When cancellation is deferred (the default case), cancellation occurs
> >only within the scope of a function defined as a cancellation point
> >(after the function is called and before the function returns).
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > =20
> while the above patch may work, there could have exceptions:
>=20
> just before syscall close() enters kernel, a user signal is received,=20
> and the user
> signal handler calls a syscall which happens to be cancellation point, I=
=20
> saw some
> programs print a log in signal handler, and thread is canceled,
> e.g write(2, msg, strlen(msg)) to log a message,
> close() syscall is still not called, though it is arguable that if this=
=20
> signal handler
> code is legal.
Sorry, I cannot fully understand the point. Do you mean that close()
could not be called if signal handler calls function that is a cancelation
point ? This seems to be ok, my rush is against the situation where
the state-changing call is done, but I cannot determine was it actually
done or not, due to cancellation.

>=20
> thread suspending in libthr uses SIGCANCEL to check suspending state,
> the code needs to be adjusted, it seems I have to use another signal.

Missed this, thank you for pointing it out. Updated patch is at
http://people.freebsd.org/~kib//misc/cancel_defer.2.patch

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