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Date:      Mon, 2 Feb 2015 00:05:22 -0800
From:      Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net>
To:        FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Successfully installed FreeBSD 10.1 on Apple PowerMac G5 -- BUT -- system freezes after a few minutes of running.
Message-ID:  <25A7C3E9-BEDB-4DA3-B9F7-08F2C299C119@dsl-only.net>

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If every boot gives some time before things freeze up you might be able =
to extract and report the outputs of commands like:

$ freebsd-version -ku; uname -a
10.1-RELEASE-p5
10.1-RELEASE-p5
FreeBSD FBSDG5M1 10.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p5 #0 r277808M: =
Fri Jan 30 00:58:33 PST 2015     =
root@FBSDG5M1:/usr/obj/usr/home/markmi/src_10_1_releng/sys/GENERIC64vtsc =
 powerpc

(There is more than one 'powerpc64 FreeBSD 10.1 "disk1" CD' that can be =
burned, such 10.1-RELEASE vs., say, a recent 10.1-STABLE. But it turns =
out that until very recently powerpc64 CD burns did not work for booting =
PowerMac G5s so more than normal is known about which versions could =
have be installed from a CD.)

Despite the mention of there being no console messages I list some =
basics below about dumping messages out anyway...

$ tail /var/log/messages
Feb  1 21:37:40 FBSDG5M1 kernel: uhid1: <vendor 0x05ac product 0x9218, =
class 0/0, rev 1.00/1.0e, addr 7> on usbus1
Feb  1 21:37:40 FBSDG5M1 kernel: hid_get_item: Number of items truncated =
to 255
Feb  1 21:37:40 FBSDG5M1 last message repeated 2 times
Feb  1 21:37:41 FBSDG5M1 ntpd[991]: ntpd 4.2.4p5-a (1)
Feb  1 21:37:43 FBSDG5M1 dbus[924]: [system] Activating service =
name=3D'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' (using servicehelper)
Feb  1 21:37:43 FBSDG5M1 dbus[924]: [system] Activating service =
name=3D'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' (using servicehelper)
Feb  1 21:37:43 FBSDG5M1 dbus[924]: [system] Successfully activated =
service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1'
Feb  1 21:37:43 FBSDG5M1 dbus[924]: [system] Successfully activated =
service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit'
Feb  1 21:37:52 FBSDG5M1 ntpd[992]: time reset +1.748777 s
Feb  1 21:38:01 FBSDG5M1 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0

$ dmesg -a | tail
Configuring vt: blanktime.
Performing sanity check on sshd configuration.
Starting sshd.
Starting sendmail_submit.
Starting sendmail_msp_queue.
Starting cron.
Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds.

Sun Feb  1 21:37:42 PST 2015
Feb  1 21:38:01 FBSDG5M1 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0

tail by itself may not give enough context. Full copies would be nice =
but I do not know about fitting the time before the hangup.

The intent is to have a more complete specification of which 10.1 =
variant and to see if problems are being logged before the complete =
hangup.

Others may well have better suggestions than mine for getting evidence.


You should probably indicate if you are using just the console vs., say, =
X11. (Although it is probably just the console if it never stayed up =
long enough to establish more context.) Some folks may want to know the =
video card involved or other configuration information, even for simple =
console usage.



Historically for a base system configuration (video card & monitor, SSD =
appropriate to the SATA vintage, appropriate superdrive vintage/variant =
that FreeBSD would tolerate) if I've made it to the login prompt and I =
had not mixed and matched distinct kernel and world vintages for some =
reason then I've had no later troubles with panics, hangups, or the like =
for 10.0 or 10.1 vintages that I've installed.

But that was after I removed all the PCI-Express cards (G5 quad-core) =
but the video: My earlier attempts at using the pre-existing SATA cards =
and SSD's/disks from them was unreliable even for simple console usage. =
I took the direction of simplifying/removing stuff until what was left =
just worked, such as the built-in SATA. I've not gone back yet to figure =
out if I can make anything that I removed work well. (I'm still =
learning/investigating other things for FreeBSD and am in no rush about =
what I removed.)

I temporarily had my hands on a PowerMac G5 that would overheat if kept =
busy. But its fan would be going faster than normal after warming up =
while idle. The fans would go full speed well before the shutdown when =
it would overheat. So that sort of issue is not a match to what you =
report.


=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
markmi at dsl-only.net




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