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Date:      Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:20:37 -0500
From:      Ken Stailey <kstailey@surfbest.net>
To:        Alan Eldridge <alane@geeksrus.net>
Cc:        klh@panix.com, FreeBSD ports list <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: klh10 and its port submissions
Message-ID:  <3C727B55.10801@surfbest.net>
References:  <3C6FC9EF.9040900@surfbest.net> <3C703170.5040502@surfbest.net> <200202180001.g1I01Og20036@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <3C726171.8050603@surfbest.net> <20020219152538.GB17665@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <3C727732.10003@surfbest.net> <20020219161105.GA19555@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>

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Alan Eldridge wrote:

>On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 11:02:58AM -0500, Ken Stailey wrote:
>
>>Alan Eldridge wrote:
>>
>>>Suggest group "wheel" instead. IE you must be able to su to root (at least
>>>in principle) in order to run it.
>>>
>>But Alan:
>>
>>kstailey@hermes$ ls -l /usr/sbin/ppp
>>-r-sr-xr--  1 root  network  307808 Jan 26 08:14 /usr/sbin/ppp
>>
>
>I guess I'm looking at it from the perspective of a *user* running it.
>Network is a daemon account.
>
We are not talking about the network account but the network group.  It 
makes a big difference.

> Wheel is the group you have to be in to su
>to root. And since it's a potentially dangerous program, it seemed logical
>to me to need to be in the "trusted" group to be able to run it.
>
ppp uses ID0 wrappers around system calls to limit its use of root 
privledges.  We can't go there now because klh-10 uses popen(3).  I 
expect to fix that someday.




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