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Date:      Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:53:38 +0300
From:      Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@ispro.net>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        Sean Bruno <sbruno@miralink.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>, Shaun Amott <shaun@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <48EF5052.2000707@ispro.net>
In-Reply-To: <20081009200641.60d0b236@bhuda.mired.org>
References:  <200810091411.m99EB0Vo007538@lurza.secnetix.de>	<20081010023428.87556dt18ejyzf48@mail.ispro.net> <20081009200641.60d0b236@bhuda.mired.org>

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Mike Meyer wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:34:28 +0300
> yurtesen@ispro.net wrote:
> 
>> Quoting "Oliver Fromme" <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>:
>>
>>> These features are readily available right now on FreeBSD.
>>> You don't have to code anything.
>> Well with 2 downsides,
> 
> Once you actually try and implement these solutions, you'll see that
> your "downsides" are largely figments of your imagination.

So if it is my imagination, how can I actually convert UFS to ZFS 
easily? Everybody seems to say that this is easy and that is easy.

When you look at this from a single point then you might be right. But 
next thing in my agenda is to provide restore services to hosting 
customers. Now when I use a commercial solution like r1soft backup, I 
can just install the plugin for the control panel software (like cPanel 
or H-Sphere).

If it is imagination and things are so easy, I can give you $500(r1soft 
pricing) for every 5servers I have, and you can give the same features 
that r1soft gives, deal? I have no doubt that similar solution can be 
achieved on FreeBSD. If you sit and think for a second, the problem is 
the amount of time, resources and knowledge it requires to do the same 
solution in FreeBSD is way higher than if one was using Linux.

 > I seriously doubt that it supports things like GMailFS.

You are right, my mistake. But it supports the most commonly used Linux 
filesystems, still better than changing to a brand new filesystem. But 
sorry for the mistake.

Thanks,
Evren



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