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Date:      Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:18:12 -0700
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Ian FREISLICH <ianf@clue.co.za>
Cc:        barney_cordoba@yahoo.com, Ruben de Groot <mail25@bzerk.org>, Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Telnet root login
Message-ID:  <49CA6754.4030302@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <E1LmSXe-000IqH-QM@clue.co.za>
References:  <995845.90009.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <E1LmSXe-000IqH-QM@clue.co.za>

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Ian FREISLICH wrote:
> Barney Cordoba wrote:
>>> Barney, you have to make the network pseudo ttys secure,
>>> like:
>>>
>>> ttyp0   none    network    secure
>>>
>>> Ruben
>> Yes, the "its not a good idea" is dependent on whatever other
>> security you have in place. Having to log in twice to a test
>> machine on a secure internal network is an unnecessary annoyance.
>> The concept that every FreeBSD box in existence is publically accessible
>> is one of those ASSumptions that people should leave at the door.
>>
>> Ruben, the method you cite no longer works in -current as they've 
>> changed things once again (which happens way too often when your CEOs 
>> are a bunch of bearded academics :)
>>
>> I'm not sure if its the pty (the login terminal shows as pty/0 and 
>> no longer ttyp0), or if its some PAM thing. Its rather annoying.
>> Such things as 
>>
>> pty/0 none network secure
>> pty0 none network secure
>>
>> equally don't work. And I see no mention in any document as to how it
>> would be achieved with the current
> 
> Then use ssh and set "PermitRootLogin yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config

this doesn't work if you are usinf a set of machines run from a 
central machine using nc (netcat) to do scripted i/o through a telnet 
session on the other machines (for example).

The advantage of telnet is you can pipe nc straight into it.

> 
> Ian
> 
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> Ian Freislich
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