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Date:      Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:00:12 -0500
From:      Alan DeKok <aland@freeradius.org>
To:        Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc:        Pierre Carrier <pierre.carrier@airbnb.com>, secalert <secalert@redhat.com>, pkgsrc-security <pkgsrc-security@netbsd.org>, security@ubuntu.com, security@freeradius.org, pupykin.s+arch@gmail.com, security@debian.org, bugbusters <bugbusters@freebsd.org>, product.security@airbnb.com
Subject:   Re: freeradius denial of service in authentication flow
Message-ID:  <52FFD55C.5030408@freeradius.org>
In-Reply-To: <87sirkm8uo.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
References:  <CAM7LUF55w4g7=GqhfFyys0fhJNKQtX-Pp804YWRW57GxbO9WDw@mail.gmail.com>	<52FC1916.4060501@freeradius.org> <87sirkm8uo.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>

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Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Alan DeKok:
> 
>>   That's an issue, but a rare one IMHO.  The user has to exist on the
>> system.  So this isn't a remote DoS.
> 
> Could you elaborate on this assessment?  Is this because typical data
> sources for SSHA passwords limit the length of the salt and thus the
> length of the SSHA hash?

  Partly.  The typical use-case for a remote DoS is for an
unauthenticated user to take down the system.  Here, the user has to be
known, *and* be able to create a long SSHA password.

  To me, this puts the issue into the category of "known users can do
bad things", which is very different from "unknown users can do bad things".

  Alan DeKok.
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