Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 16:04:32 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> To: David Kulp <dkulp@neomorphic.com> Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compatibility list Message-ID: <61250.920937872@zippy.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 07 Mar 1999 20:25:52 PST." <199903080425.UAA04002@board66.cruzers.com>
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> I was thinking of setting up a simple web page listing success or > failure with FreeBSD on different laptops. I know there's the PAO > list, but the last time I checked it hadn't been updated lately, and > I'm also interested in running FBSD without PAO -- which typically > isn't needed. Hmmm. Such a page would tell a pretty sad story, which is why I think nobody has tried such a thing yet. :( I have 3 laptops (with various pccards) on which I test FreeBSD on a fairly regular basis, and by all appearances the FreeBSD PCCARD support has continued its gradual de-evolution process in our latest releases, things now having gotten to the point where even the mainstream stuff doesn't work anymore. For an example of what I mean, I just tried to bring up 3.1-RELEASE on a fairly standard Digital HiNote laptop with 3COM 3C589D PCCARD NIC and it failed to work at all. If you power the laptop up with the card inserted, it says "Driver allocation failed for ep0" (or words to that effect, the box not sitting in front of me at the moment) and if you try a hot-insertion, it either completely fails to notice the insertion event at all (this now appearing to be a general problem with pccardd) or it notices but still fails to do anything useful with it. Same setup used to work in 2.2.8, sadly enough. At its current rate of progress(?), I predict that the code will be non-functional enough to simply shoot dead in about 6 more months, allowing us to finally stop pretending that the "mainline" FreeBSD product supports laptop peripherals at all. I can only hope that the PAO people continue to track the state of FreeBSD's mainline releases so that we can at least point people in that direction for the "optional laptop support" add-ons. Bah, Oh Well, etc. - Jordan P.S. People who reply to suggest that the mainline laptop support should "simply be improved and/or merged with the PAO code" will be laughed at for 5 solid minutes before being cheerfully blown into shark chum with sustained, fully-automatic weapons fire. If there were someone available to DO THE WORK involved in actually implementing such a suggestion, it would have been done years ago, trust me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message
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