Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 10:46:45 +0100 From: Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Cc: rde@tavi.co.uk, 000.fbsd@quip.cz Subject: Re: Pause pkg install messages Message-ID: <CAECmPwsD=wB=duhUQmiqbMgM9OvD%2BKt6d4%2B1iY-N8eDXKCJ%2BkA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <999c38f3-8127-6ffa-fad1-818566c2801a@quip.cz> References: <CAECmPwuOyHBkne7AVtPHXAi6KhgtQFq_OYsaCjd4BBP6Hat8OQ@mail.gmail.com> <20180524091741.59dbabf2@raksha.tavi.co.uk> <CAECmPwvDG=A4BJLH17YoWGcOP6hZh%2Bx4j0aD9uRf%2B29%2B=zZAJg@mail.gmail.com> <999c38f3-8127-6ffa-fad1-818566c2801a@quip.cz>
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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:21 AM Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: > Johannes Lundberg wrote on 2018/05/24 11:03: > > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:27 AM Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 24 May 2018 09:08:17 +0100 > >> Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> In addition to that it would be nice (if it's not already done) to > >>> store this information in a log file somewhere so that one can > >>> revisit and see what needs to be manually configured for each > >>> installed package. > >> > >> I have this in syslog.conf: > >> > >> !pkg,pkg-static > >> *.* /var/log/pkg.log > > I think only changes are logged, not messages: > > Apr 26 23:50:22 maja pkg: p5-DBI reinstalled: 1.641 -> 1.641 > Apr 26 23:50:22 maja pkg: mariadb101-client upgraded: 10.1.31 -> 10.1.32_2 > Apr 26 23:50:22 maja pkg: libnghttp2 upgraded: 1.31.0 -> 1.31.1 > > > Thanks for the tip. I'll use this. > > However, someone who knows about this probably know how to manually > > configure their system already. > > > > I want to make sure first timers and newbies don't miss important > messages > > on how to configure the system. > > > > Often we get inquires about stuff that is clearly described in the pkg > > message and bug reports that are a consequence of wrong configuration. > > How can we make this more clear so that it is not missed? > > As Eugene already noted - syscons has scrollback buffer. Did you tried > "Scroll Lock" on your keyboard? > > If you need to re-show message of any installed package, "pkg info -D" > (or pkg info --pkg-message) is your friend. Nothing is lost. You can > view it anytime. > If you're in virtualbox on a laptop, you seldom have scroll lock unless you map it manually (which is not easy to know how to do). And, yes you can review the messages later but how do you know which of the 100's of package had important messages for you? Often when I install 100's of package I walk away from the computer and when I come back all the messages except the very last one or two have scrolled by. I think we should have a pager that says something like "please carefully read through these messages", halt the output and let's you scroll one page or pkg at the time. Even better, a Y/N question asking the user if they want configuration to be done for them where it makes sense (but that's a bigger project). > > > # pkg info -D mariadb101-server > mariadb101-server-10.1.33: > Always: > ************************************************************************ > > Remember to run mysql_upgrade (with the optional --datadir=<dbdir> flag) > the first time you start the MySQL server after an upgrade from an > earlier version. > > MariaDB respects hier(7) and doesn't check /etc and /etc/mysql for > my.cnf. Please move existing my.cnf files from those paths to > /usr/local/etc and /usr/local/etc/mysql. > > This port does NOT include the mytop perl script, this is included in > the MariaDB tarball but the most recent version can be found in the > databases/mytop port > > ************************************************************************ > > Miroslav Lachman >
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