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Date:      Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:13:37 +0100
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= <fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com>
To:        Daniel Siechniewicz <daniel@nulldowntime.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?
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El 28/01/2014 16:04, "Daniel Siechniewicz" <daniel@nulldowntime.com>
escribi=F3:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just a little stick in this anthill:
>
> - I've seen a few people volunteering, but so far the reaction seems
> to be: "oh, yeah, well, ah, cool". I'd expect, with all the talk about
> how much they are needed, that they will be "snatched" immediately and
> coerced into doing unspeakable things (like processing a 100 PRs a
> day, ensuring high quality testing and all that :) ). I certainly hope
> this is happening behind the scenes.
>
> - Tools are abundant, focusing on github vs. aegis is really just
> highjacking this thread. If there's a need for new tool set I suppose
> people who actually USE the existing ones for ports will be able to
> identify what's needed FOR THEM. Some form of democracy, I guess.
>
> - Yes, fresh look is very important, but you can't tear down something
> without knowing the consequences, which pretty much means not without
> in depth knowledge of the existing mechanisms. Not everyone in this
> discussion seems to be coming from this perspective.
>
> - Absolutely, automate the shit out of the process, get rid of stale
> PR's (and ports, for that matter), "retire" inactive commiters, etc.
> But first and foremost, get some stats out of the system, there's no
> point throwing numbers like 50% this, 80% that, if you simply don't
> know. Measure, analyze and focus your attention where it gets the most
> benefits.

+1

I wrote the same thing expecting someone to have a look at gnat's database
and collect some numbers

>
> - And stop petty squabbles.
>
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
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