Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 21:57:23 +0300 From: Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> To: =?utf-8?Q?Martin_Waschb=C3=BCsch?= <martin@waschbuesch.de> Cc: FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: PHP version retirement Message-ID: <D7D5D66C-AD53-4F2E-95E5-F0131DBC82AA@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <CD11C7D8-DC57-4402-848C-06BBAD220D8B@waschbuesch.de> References: <CF1F28D6-1072-4BE6-B124-A97DE43FA4E6@waschbuesch.de> <64faf143-bae3-378c-3ee2-b196c2ea4111@astart.com> <16731AF5-68E9-4E41-8D21-CF5917BE32A4@waschbuesch.de> <20190810231216.GA23293@lyxys.ka.sub.org> <CD11C7D8-DC57-4402-848C-06BBAD220D8B@waschbuesch.de>
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Quarterly is essentially useless if the decision is to immediately axe a dep= recated release. 3 months are nothing in production environments, if you get= 3 months (1,5 months mean) at all and also all other updates and security r= elevant bug fixes in the same quarterly that you desperately need. Yeah, we know that won=E2=80=99t happen so please don=E2=80=99t suggest it. That deprecation policy is nice and well all by itself except when it wreaks= havoc over the ports infrastructure like in the case of PHP version support= where numerous ports are immediately unavailable and incompatible with upgr= ades. Furthermore, the argument that it is more more work to maintain an abandoned= version is silly because it=E2=80=99s more work to delete a port that to ju= st keep it in the tree for a while longer. That =E2=80=9Ewhile=E2=80=9C is debatable, but it=E2=80=99s neither indefini= tely nor immediately. The people responsible for FreeBSD ports and packages w= ould be wise to enrich their policies with a more graceful way of dealing wi= th legacy software, especially if it relates to more than a handful of ports= in a single deprecation decision. TL;DR: don=E2=80=99t remove PHP ports prematurely and you=E2=80=99ll have le= ss work reading mails like these. Cheers, Franco > On 11. Aug 2019, at 21:41, Martin Waschb=C3=BCsch <martin@waschbuesch.de> w= rote: >=20 > Hi Wolfgang, >=20 >> Am 11.08.2019 um 01:12 schrieb Wolfgang Zenker <wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org= >: >>=20 >> * Martin Waschb=C3=BCsch <martin@waschbuesch.de> [190811 00:47]: >>>> Am 10.08.2019 um 20:18 schrieb Patrick Powell <papowell@astart.com>: >>>>=20 >>>> Umm this was just the kick in the pants that I needed to switch to PHP 7= . >>>> See https://www.glaver.org/blog/?p=3D1109 for a desperation 'I need PHP= 5.6' hack which I used during this update. >>=20 >>> Thank you, Patrick, >>> that is a work-around I also came across. It helped me as well. >>=20 >> You could also have used the quarterly branch, which keeps software till >> the end of the quarter. In the case of php 5.6 it would have given you >> time until March 31st, and would have included version 5.6.40 >>=20 >> Wolfgang >=20 >=20 > 5.6.40 never made it into the main ports tree. Are you sure it was availab= le in the quarterly snapshot? >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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