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Date:      Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:00:15 +0100
From:      Sasa Stupar <sasa@stupar.homelinux.net>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song)
Message-ID:  <FD6D79D49B90F67B47B4CDBA@[192.168.10.249]>
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It doesn't work on winxp. I am going to build another machine with FreeBSD=20
5.4 and I'll try it then and let you know the results.

Sasa

--On 18. december 2005 14:02 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> =

wrote:

>
> In looking at this again, I didn't realize you were pinging from
> Win2K
>
> Win2K uses the -f option to set the Do Not Fragment bit, UNIX uses
> the -f option to flood ping.  Win2k ping does not have a flood ping
> option.  You can download a ping for Windows from Microsoft here:
>
> http://research.microsoft.com/barc/mbone/mping.aspx
>
> that does have an option for flooding traffic. ( set the milliseconds
> between packets very low) but I have not tested it.  Doubtless
> others are available on the Internet.
>
> Ted
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sasa Stupar
>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:07 AM
>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>> Song)
>>
>>
>> Nothing. From the GUI view it is at 0% of utilisation.
>>
>> Sasa
>>
>> --On 18. december 2005 3:51 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> what does the CPU of the router do when your doing that?
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sasa Stupar
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:00 AM
>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>>>> Song)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --On 18. december 2005 2:32 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
>>>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of
>> Sasa Stupar
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 2:21 AM
>>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
>>>>>> Theme Song)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --On 18. december 2005 1:33 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
>>>>>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:25 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson
>>>>>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
>>>>>>>> Theme Song)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --On 16. december 2005 3:36 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
>>>>>>>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
>>>>>>>>>> Theme Song)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and
>>>>>>>> without polling:
>>>>>>>>>> **************
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001
>>>>>>>>>> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default)
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with
>>>>>>>>>> 192.168.1.200 port 5001
>>>>>>>>>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
>>>>>>>>>> [1816]  0.0-10.0 sec   108 MBytes  90.1 Mbits/sec
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I disable this option then my transfer is worse:
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001
>>>>>>>>>> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default)
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with
>>>>>>>>>> 192.168.1.200 port 5001
>>>>>>>>>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
>>>>>>>>>> [1816]  0.0-10.0 sec  69.7 MBytes  58.4 Mbits/sec
>>>>>>>>>> ***************
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what are the cpu speeds and operating systems of all devices
>>>>>>>>> in the packet path, what is the make and model of switchs in
>>>>>>>>> use, provide dmesg output of the bsd box, a network diagram
>>>>>>>>> of the setup, etc. etc. etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The above test results are not replicatable and thus, worthless.
>>>>>>>>> Useful test results would allow a reader to build an exact
>>>>>>>>> duplicate of your setup, config it identically, and get
>> identical
>>>>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK. The server (192.168.1.200) is FreeBSD 5.4 with Duron 900
>>>>>> and 3C905C
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 3com 3c905 is not a very good card under FreeBSD the
>> driver was
>>>>>>> written
>>>>>>> without support from 3com and is shakey on a lot of
>>>> hardware.  I would
>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>> there's a big question that your server is actually saturating the
>>>>>>> ethernet.
>>>>>>> Probably that is why your only getting 90Mbt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NIC; router is m0n0wall (FreeBSD 4.11) with three Intel
>>>>>>>> Pro/100S Nics and
>>>>>>>> Celeron 433; The user computer (192.168.10.249) is Celeron 2400
>>>>>>>> with winxp
>>>>>>>> and integrated NIC Realtek 8139 series. Switch is CNET CNSH-1600.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again, the winxp+realtek 8139 is not a particularly
>>>>>> steller combo,
>>>>>>> I would question that this system could saturate the
>>>> ethernet, either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Diagram: <http://me.homelinux.net/network.pdf>;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dmesg from the router:
>>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>>> $ dmesg
>>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
>>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991,
>>>>>> 1992, 1993, 1994
>>>>>>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>>>>>>>> FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p11 #0: Wed Sep  7 13:49:09 CEST 2005
>>>>>>>>    root@fb411.neon1.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/M0N0WALL_GENERIC
>>>>>>>> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
>>>>>>>> CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (434.32-MHz
>> 686-class CPU)
>>>>>>>>  Origin =3D "GenuineIntel"  Id =3D 0x665  Stepping =3D 5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Features=3D0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,P
>>>>>>>> GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
>>>>>>>> real memory  =3D 201326592 (196608K bytes)
>>>>>>>> avail memory =3D 179142656 (174944K bytes)
>>>>>>>> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc1006000.
>>>>>>>> Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot" at 0xc100609c.
>>>>>>>> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
>>>>>>>> md0: Preloaded image </mfsroot> 11534336 bytes at 0xc0504d9c
>>>>>>>> md1: Malloc disk
>>>>>>>> Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdef0
>>>>>>>> npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
>>>>>>>> npx0: INT 16 interface
>>>>>>>> pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
>>>>>>>> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
>>>>>>>> pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device
>>>>>>>> 1.0 on pci0
>>>>>>>> pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
>>>>>>>> isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
>>>>>>>> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
>>>>>>>> atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at
>>>>>>>> device 7.1 on
>>>>>>>> pci0
>>>>>>>> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
>>>>>>>> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
>>>>>>>> uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port
>>>>>>>> 0xd000-0xd01f irq 11
>>>>>>>> at device 7.2 on pci0
>>>>>>>> usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
>>>>>>>> usb0: USB revision 1.0
>>>>>>>> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>>>>>>>> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>>>>>>>> chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port
>>>>>>>> 0x5000-0x500f at
>>>>>>>> device 7.3 on pci0
>>>>>>>> pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=3D0x1274, dev=3D0x1371) at 8.0 irq 11
>>>>>>>> fxp0: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xd800-0xd83f mem
>>>>>>>> 0xd0400000-0xd041ffff,0xd0460000-0xd0460fff irq 10 at device
>>>>>>>> 15.0 on pci0
>>>>>>>> fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:62:f6:06
>>>>>>>> inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus0
>>>>>>>> inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
>>>>>>>> fxp1: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem
>>>>>>>> 0xd0420000-0xd043ffff,0xd0462000-0xd0462fff irq 12 at device
>>>>>>>> 16.0 on pci0
>>>>>>>> fxp1: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:9c:2a:16
>>>>>>>> inphy1: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus1
>>>>>>>> inphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
>>>>>>>> fxp2: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xe000-0xe03f mem
>>>>>>>> 0xd0440000-0xd045ffff,0xd0461000-0xd0461fff irq 7 at device
>>>>>> 19.0 on pci0
>>>>>>>> fxp2: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:8c:e4:f6
>>>>>>>> inphy2: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus2
>>>>>>>> inphy2:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
>>>>>>>> pmtimer0 on isa0
>>>>>>>> fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq
>>>>>>>> 2 on isa0
>>>>>>>> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
>>>>>>>> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
>>>>>>>> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
>>>>>>>> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
>>>>>>>> sio0: type 16550A, console
>>>>>>>> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>>>>>>>> BRIDGE 020214 loaded
>>>>>>>> IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
>>>>>>>> IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized.  Default =3D block all,
>>>>>> Logging =3D enabled
>>>>>>>> ad0: 3098MB <WDC AC33200L> [6296/16/63] at ata0-master PIO4
>>>>>>>> acd0: CDROM <LITE-ON CD-ROM LTN-527T> at ata1-master PIO4
>>>>>>>> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c
>>>>>>>> fxp1: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6
>>>>>>>> fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6
>>>>>>>> fxp2: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6
>>>>>>>> ata0: resetting devices .. done
>>>>>>>> -------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you need more just ask for it. You don't need to be
>>>> angry. Peace.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, next question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ftp transfer like this uses large packets, rerun the test
>>>> with ping -f
>>>>>>> with different ping packet sizes, post the results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember, routers have to deal with many sized packets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting. I have tested like you've said and I could ping
>>>>>> with packet
>>>>>> size 1450 bytes. Everything bigger is telling that "packet must be
>>>>>> fragmented but DF is set up". This is of course pinging
>> from winxp to
>>>>>> server.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is normal since under winxp ping sets the DF bit I believe.
>>>>>
>>>>> The larger packets are not what matters, the smaller
>> packets are more
>>>>> interesting.  I find it hard to believe your getting the same
>>>> throughput
>>>>> with
>>>>> flood pinging with 56 byte packets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is the output:
>>>> -------------
>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\nathsasa>ping -t -f -l 56 mig29
>>>>
>>>> Preverjanje dosegljivosti mig29.workgroup [192.168.1.200] z
>> 56 B podatk
>>>>
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63
>>>>
>>>> Statistika preverjanja dosegljivosti za 192.168.1.200:
>>>>    Paketov: Poslanih =3D 46, Prejetih =3D 46, Izgubljenih =3D 0
>> (0% izguba),
>>>> Povpre=E8ni =E8as v milisekundah:
>>>>    Minimum =3D 0ms, Maksimum =3D 0ms, Povpre=E8je =3D 0ms
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>> It's in my native language but the position is the same as
>> in english.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sasa Stupar
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>>
>>
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Sasa Stupar



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