Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:16:29 +0100 From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> To: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, "Konstantinos Konstantinidis" <kkonstan@duth.gr>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Brad Knowles" <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. Message-ID: <a0510100fb8375b52c121@[10.0.1.16]> In-Reply-To: <010601c17fab$1cd2b270$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><000b01c17f42$c23ab140$0a0 0000a@atkielski.com><3C110351.4748B559@duth.gr><005001c17f6c$e60c0ef0$ 0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15377.17350.796336.801464@guru.mired.org> <006901c17f70$19a2f820$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C11560B.A035DEF3@duth.gr> <009401c17f9c$5bad3bf0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <a05101007b837448d6ad8@[10.0.1.16]> <010601c17fab$1cd2b270$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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At 6:42 AM +0100 on 2001/12/08, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I said "a general recommendation." That means a recommendation that applies > to everyone generally, when differentiation among individual cases is not > possible or practical. You're trying to unilaterally apply a "general" solution to a specific problem. This is a fundamentally flawed approach to problem solving. > What if you don't get answers to those questions, but must make a > recommendation anyway? I am never forced to make a recommendation. No one puts a gun to your head and tells you that they will kill you if you don't respond to this kind of a question. If they do, they are almost certainly a religious fanatic (such as yourself) that is looking for a particular response, and if they don't hear you say what they want you to say, then they will pull the trigger no matter what. > You mean the Linux mold, or the FreeBSD mold? Your Windows Zealot mold. > No, I am simply addressing the general case. No, you're not. You are mis-applying the wrong tool for the wrong problem, and then you are trying to wave your hands and claim that you are addressing the general case. I'm sorry, but we're a bit too smart for that -- far smarter morons than you have tried before and been caught, and we're not about to let you get away with it, either. > They may not have the luxury of answers to all those questions. Then the choice is up to them how they would respond in that kind of situation, but my answer would be that I don't have enough information and that I would rather make no recommendation at all than make one that turned out to be bad for the person. >> Moreover, even if they are all FreeBSD zealots >> and push their views with frothy vigour, it is not >> your responsibility to save the world from them. > > Nothing forbids me from making the attempt. Common sense? Decency? Consideration for all the other poor sods on this mailing list who are getting bloody sick and tired of reading your drivel, and tired of being continually spammed by you on this topic? Oh, sorry -- I forgot. You're a religious zealot and you can't possibly let this issue go. > No. As a general rule, on the desktop, Windows is the logical choice, with > the Mac coming in as a rather distant second. UNIX is not statistically > significant. Right, and statistically, the average distance between atoms in this Universe is something like one every ten centimeters, so you don't exist. Ghu, I wish that were true. The reality is that sweeping generalities of the sort you constantly spew are simply inappropriate and fundamentally incorrect, because they are based on flawed assumptions. > For servers, the choice is more difficult, as no OS is indisputably > predominant. Without more information, it is difficult to choose between > Windows or UNIX, although the Mac is pretty much out of the running, as is > Novell, IMO. Mainframe servers are usually not worthy of consideration, > either, for the general case. Again, what is the general case? I know of plenty of situations where mainframe machines are precisely the best kind of server to use, because they are so very good at handling very large volumes of I/O with otherwise limited resources. > An average user is someone representative of the majority of desktop users. A meaningless circular definition. Try giving us a real concrete definition next time. > They don't need the best, they need something that is good enough. > Moreover, they need something that is both good enough and presents a low > risk. For the desktop, and for an average user generally, Windows is the > best choice. Again, that is not necessarily true. Even if it were true in an abstract sense, this world is not abstract. This world has a real physical manifestation, and therefore your religious zealot rules don't always apply. -- Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be> H4sICIFgXzsCA2RtYS1zaWcAPVHLbsMwDDvXX0H0kkvbfxiwVw8FCmzAzqqj1F4dy7CdBfn7 Kc6wmyGRFEnvvxiWQoCvqI7RSWTcfGXQNqCUAnfIU+AT8OZ/GCNjRVlH0bKpguJkxiITZqes MxwpSucyDJzXxQEUe/ihgXqJXUXwD9ajB6NHonLmNrUSK9nacHQnH097szO74xFXqtlbT3il wMsBz5cnfCR5cEmci0Rj9u/jqBbPeES1I4PeFBXPUIT1XDSOuutFXylzrQvGyboWstCoQZyP dxX4dLx0eauFe1x9puhoi0Ao1omEJo+BZ6XLVNaVpWiKekxN0VK2VMpmAy+Bk7ZV4SO+p1L/ uErNRS/qH2iFU+iNOtbcmVt9N16lfF7tLv9FXNj8AiyNcOi1AQAA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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