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Date:      Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:12:50 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Lars Eighner <luvbeastie@larseighner.com>
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Keep using syscons -- how?
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.11.1410221805320.94748@abbf.ynefrvtuareubzr.pbz>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1410220920430.56146@wonkity.com>
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Warren Block wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Lars Eighner wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Polytropon wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 04:25:12 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote:
>>>> What do I have to do or not do to keep being able to use syscons in VGA
>>>> mode? Is there any way to keep the ability to switch between xwindows and
>>>> syscons (in VGA i.e. text mode)?
>>> 
>>> Allow me a more general question. I'm not asking as
>>> a "means of insult", but because I'm really interested
>>> in the answer:
>>> 
>>> Why not use terminal emulators (xterm, rxvt, konsole,
>>> gnome-terminal etc.) inside an X session?
>> 
>> Because raster fonts are illegible compared to vga fonts,
>
> The text-mode fonts are raster fonts, too.

I don't understand this. There are raster text modes, but 80x24 VGA has
never been called "raster" that I know of.


>
>> Text mode is robust.  That is really the bottom line.
>
> Use vt(4) in text mode:

Yes, just like Linux.  What I am asking is where do I have to freeze to
avoid this? At what point is cons25l1 and xwindows to vtty switching still
available?

>
> kern.vty=vt
> hw.vga.textmode=1
>
> The console will switch to graphics mode only if X is started.  At present, 
> there is no way to switch back to text mode, nor a way to control which fonts 
> are used or the resolution selected.  Some functionality of sc(4) is not yet 
> present in text mode vt(4), like mouse cut and paste.  As far as I know, 
> there are no technical problems that prevent these features.
>
> And of course sc(4) is still present if the system does not use X at all.
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Lars Eighner
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