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Date:      Sat, 9 Feb 2019 18:32:11 +0100 (CET)
From:      Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@puchar.net>
To:        Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Sidju <lists@sidju.se>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: nosh init system
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.20.1902091830490.45199@puchar.net>
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> pid 2 and reap zombies.  We're missing a half-decent service
> management system.  On Linux, systemd performs both roles.  On
> FreeBSD, init(8) serves one role, and rc(8) is a tiny subset of a real
> service management system like systemd.

systemd is overcomplex crap. And a reason many people migrated to FreeBSD 
from linux.

>
> (I think the piece we would consider replacing or supplementing would
> be rc(8).  Part of that might be migrating some responsibilities from
> pid 1 to pid 2, such as spawning gettys.  I don't hold strong opinions
> about that.)

this make sense but with spawning gettys left to init.


what do you want to improve in rc? starting services in parallel doesn't 
seem to be major problem to make i think.



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