Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:36:53 -0500 From: "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net> To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" <infofarmer@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD Ports <ports@freebsd.org>, Stanislav Sedov <ssedov@mbsd.msk.ru>, portmgr@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD.local.dist - share/locale Message-ID: <op.tesirrx09aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com> In-Reply-To: <cb5206420608240626g7f3756c9g8754d7a437c5fd25@mail.gmail.com> References: <cb5206420608240626g7f3756c9g8754d7a437c5fd25@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:26:53 -0500, Andrew Pantyukhin <infofarmer@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > I can't help thinking that the way we're trying to deal with > locale directories is far from optimal. IMHO, there are > several ways to improve the state of things: I think the current how we handle locale is a bit silly, so I personal in favor of create localehier like misc/gnomehier than four suggested below.. Honestly, I would be more rather to put mtree that is for ports in somewhere of /usr/ports/ than /etc/mtree/ that way any version of FreeBSD won't have any of left over directories problem. Cheers, Mezz > 1. Add more locales > We can add all those locales found in the same mtree > file under nls, and all less specific locales. I.e. if > aa_BB.CCC is found under nls, we can add aa_BB.CCC, > aa_BB and aa to share/locale. > > 2. Forget about left-overs > We can just ignore the directories left over in share/locale. > They are not harmful in any way, but it certainly contradicts > our long-standing effort to deinstall every thing we install. > > 3. Automate preening > We can add automatic preening to all ports that define > USE_GETTEXT. Something like > find share/locale/ -d -type d | xargs rmdir... > This way we can throw share/locale out of mtree. Ports > shouldn't (and don't) rely on these directories existence > anyway. > > 4. Define more specific rules as to what goes into mtree > and what doesn't. I know this one is very hard, each > change to mtree preceded by a violent bikeshed, but > someone has to lay down the rules and we have to follow > them. > > > Another question has arisen: should ports try to remove > directories belonging to their dependencies. On one hand > they certainly should, as "pkg_delete -f foo-dep && \ > pkg_delete -f foo" should leave the system clean. OTOH > there are cases when ports need some empty dirs to exist > and become unhappy once they can't find them. > > Anyway quite a few ports (e.g. almost all p5 ports) don't > remove one or more dirs of their dependencies and fixing > this is a matter of some research and careful sweeping > commits. > > Your thoughts are welcome and thanks for reading this. -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team - FreeBSD Multimedia Hat (ports, not src) http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org http://wiki.freebsd.org/multimedia - multimedia@FreeBSD.org
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