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Date:      10 Feb 2001 15:18:52 +0100
From:      Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        "G. Adam Stanislav" <adam@whizkidtech.net>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Gender in Indo-European languages
Message-ID:  <xzpy9ve8vub.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey's message of "Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:16:52 %2B1030"
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Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> writes:
> > Slovak does not need to say he, she, etc.  Instead, it just uses the
> > verb in the third person, and implies the appropriate pronoun.
> This is typical of the slavonic languages, of course.

Ooh, that reminds me.

Finnish doesn't have gender. At all. It's been a long time and I don't
have my TY at hand, but as I recall there are two third person
singular pronouns - one for animate and one for inanimate objects. And
in daily speech, the pronoun is usually contracted or even dropped -
"Minä olen norjalainen" (I am Norwegian) is abbreviated to "Mä olen
norjalainen" or even "Olen norjalainen". The interrogative form is
indicated by a verb suffix, so there's no need for any pronoun there
either even though there's no change in intonation: "Oletko sinä
norjalainen?" (are you Norwegian?) can be abbreviated to "Oletko
norjalainen?" because the -ko ending distinguishes it from the
affirmative "(sinä) olet norjalainen" (you are Norwegian).

(I don't remember capitalization rules for Finnish, so it's possible
"norjalainen" is supposed to be written "Norjalainen).

(this is partly from memory, partly from old handwritten notes, so
some of the above may be incorrect)

DES
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Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org


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