From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 04:17:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFBA106566C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 04:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A428FC0A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 04:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so2569622rvb.43 for ; Sat, 02 May 2009 21:17:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.13.14 with SMTP id 14mr1615646wfm.108.1241324268755; Sat, 02 May 2009 21:17:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 00:17:48 -0400 Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905022117hec3792eg435383ed26235440@mail.gmail.com> From: Duane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Honey pot email address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 04:17:49 -0000 On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Andrew wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing lists > as possible? What are your plans for the resultant collection of junque? -- Duane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 07:59:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2414106566B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 07:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBE48FC1A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 07:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.172.204]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 3 May 2009 00:59:24 -0700 Message-ID: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 15:59:36 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2009 07:59:25.0174 (UTC) FILETIME=[136DF960:01C9CBC5] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: source for sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 07:59:47 -0000 How can i just download the source for sysinstall? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 08:46:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B926106566C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 08:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97CD8FC12 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 08:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c3so1945580ana.13 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 01:46:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rxLJMobYlKGj0BETPvVNAC8IaBgAMn4emASz+i5Hsrg=; b=o1QWSQwAH3ImKqD2lIkh5PjqQV3x5fYQc4eti1H4IPXT2FY6K+jKih9niFPSB+aWky r+2sDJeoEJRK7RVaptr39LP1c17QSEWmFz6DigL+LQ3Rm3nYUtWoLElev0nZZaFvCqUs jGB0NuSmhPceapC+sRceJvvYGDSjMI//WBRvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mQcUyMKZctnb6ujUagQ4u+JhvKaXS4iIOVCzWtgF8K03rbYKSQdhbvtjGb/EtcMove lpPLUR6FgE0KUkuiUUbuNJ7V2rMWxrWpZHQKG9JyOpzYd55D2tJJYoJEErZqlE/NE7AF virgKyVemMCVVLDZEv1ezAGIOj4coZkyta4So= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.131.13 with SMTP id e13mr10127221and.93.1241340415245; Sun, 03 May 2009 01:46:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 04:46:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Fbsd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: source for sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 08:46:56 -0000 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 wrote: > How can i just download the source for sysinstall? http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 08:56:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2041065672 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 08:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E587D8FC0C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 08:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2447171qwe.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 01:56:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=eI5YSKbUOCq/u8/ifpPmKV3s8jNMztRYXeT9ZUFidV0=; b=ZrXkMGlkKaS6EkegnLSA1IjwK8ATLt92IM3R/O5v8qsqIxc+izRiQc9/Qt2SpSr2Oy PSJP3c95y7JRM/yAddYP+sK5RQRmCS18yeIf0ZNV3P6ptN1kmI/OWhxisph0hShUBAO0 mYCcDyAbfBrzEYAkuOkL6c4yZgAhnWn8fhAwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=ulfIgMI4Gj+4A6qMKg7aJ2d/j2A3GeLyNHzG+nwLzXhGzCC0qUVxwF18xCyUziti8A s+rRWknxYB6wz9yWuynMunV/lOzB/JrVu1RsHX7DsD4mhsAx3m1wwbWP8Nf4YAoFIYWM dzginWk+Yi6EvEB9kieqYoi1EUsWBgtN4LkB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.90.83 with SMTP id h19mr7464013vcm.30.1241340980124; Sun, 03 May 2009 01:56:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> From: Tim Judd Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 02:56:05 -0600 Message-ID: To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: source for sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 08:56:23 -0000 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 wrote: > > How can i just download the source for sysinstall? > > http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ > > > -- > Glen Barber > Shouldn't we give the cvs URI instead of the svn? Isn't cvs the "norm" whereas svn may be on it's way out? I could totally be in left field about that though. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 08:57:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CED2106568C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 08:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f167.google.com (mail-gx0-f167.google.com [209.85.217.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BCC8FC19 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 08:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by gxk11 with SMTP id 11so2569598gxk.19 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 01:57:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k63wOz0+xMqf9mm6q9h9nd+HQPGP6ZWornkN56i8H1o=; b=BXtHwysx4TUp2rLdQnmg2a2TuVsN0K0fhJRgSvoxFNyVLwS0AZVLr8W6nyhscrzEcz n3lprBveBaEWBcbCpijQ0rsSOx+DJ6NpFei+e4/xLhmVDAkCDdoFTTf+sW7UyTId9Isw Ep2DugEvtgH1UxhlV2aMSkqRQtwxXmgfVwjis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HTiD2Wzvq3huxnt7vfN7ewDVDwbkk5lXVlbP2/2bbmlIEVOXravTnENC3PRIU7ioZ/ HPz5P7M3dSnUmNRlLRL8cWcUz6k6LcnGVShMHYwhaNiU88seGQvfF8MhFWv90ZkA6CV8 IdyFW8Kn1dgOd7c+RC/ptln/C6P3m30TJqpkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.151.8 with SMTP id y8mr10142943and.94.1241341072952; Sun, 03 May 2009 01:57:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 04:57:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310905030157ia04487fof5ea699bbf2d861f@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Tim Judd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: source for sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 08:57:54 -0000 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Tim Judd wrote: > Shouldn't we give the cvs URI instead of the svn?=A0 Isn't cvs the "norm" > whereas svn may be on it's way out?=A0 I could totally be in left field a= bout > that though. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ > I'm not aware of SVN being "on it's way out." Either way, either source could have been located with a little Google effort. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 09:06:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD65106566B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 09:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3815A8FC14 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 09:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4494289.home.otenet.gr [94.71.95.217]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n43963vr006221; Sun, 3 May 2009 12:06:04 +0300 Message-ID: <49FD5E7A.8030102@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 12:06:02 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Judd References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Glen Barber , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: source for sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 09:06:07 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > > >> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 wrote: >> >>> How can i just download the source for sysinstall? >>> >> http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ >> >> >> -- >> Glen Barber >> >> > > > Shouldn't we give the cvs URI instead of the svn? Isn't cvs the "norm" > whereas svn may be on it's way out? I could totally be in left field about > that though. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ > Actually, it's the other way round: FreeBSD (src repository) switched to svn from CVS some time ago. Both your link and Glen's are valid though. Source may also be downloaded using csup (although I think the smallest subcollection for sysinstall would be src-usrsbin and you would definitely get more than sysinstall with that). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 11:11:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F011065670 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022668FC17 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1M0Zbu-0000Be-I3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:11:54 +0000 Received: from 220.85-200-86.bkkb.no ([85.200.86.220]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:11:54 +0000 Received: from solskogen by 220.85-200-86.bkkb.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:11:54 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christer Solskogen Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:11:43 +0200 Lines: 6 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 220.85-200-86.bkkb.no User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090223 Thunderbird/3.0b2 Sender: news Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 11:11:57 -0000 How come http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ have the isos for 7.2-RELEASE while the announce have not? -- chs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 11:13:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE1B1065672 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F262F8FC13 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55CD130D99; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE7E8130D93; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143B38F9EC; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org> Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:13:23 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christer Solskogen References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 released? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 11:13:26 -0000 Christer Solskogen wrote: > How come http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ have the isos for 7.2-RELEASE > while the announce have not? > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made. -- F From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 11:49:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA080106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D3B8FC28 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n43BmEBA042703; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:48:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n43BmDav042700; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:48:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 13:48:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Duane In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905022117hec3792eg435383ed26235440@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> <5e8ad96d0905022117hec3792eg435383ed26235440@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Honey pot email address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 11:49:08 -0000 On Sun, 3 May 2009, Duane wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Andrew wrote: > >> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing lists >> as possible? > > What are your plans for the resultant collection of junque? redirect to the president ? ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 11:52:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DB5106566B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1488FC18 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2224307wfg.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 04:52:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:organization:user-agent; bh=BNEWAEFSG1NVTUm8wvUAyA5Ez57hhGy9Mk/IAaMJ8s8=; b=gwKk2ZPuSr/zk1W8CuUBPNwNuWB+PyOR0ULkrKcc+SRGsJFnDYIdpulfzjXEn9Q0NZ sW1k9RvZXrOK4cHkJssmifVeELx/suYgPOTaHC9iiGFy8NnYh9u2sy4SRHuPtrNCDVsy vlgfDypsPpNYESZ8XbLPwPDHbqv4N1m5hQhNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:organization :user-agent; b=jnjh5kuvbi+ttG/+nXusnRFJjSePc+aEyqKo32L1q/nC+j0Yn0WWSeg6cAjEV2AP4W nDMWWNX75PhjwJUDzr1qoDmWBvV4kLEI7bVEH3C38uP8OBcMZb5OqQtXD/xjzcr9gtHL Bh+EjBiBFs0S1uWrV6mcYgi0eas2YBm8EVa58= Received: by 10.143.3.7 with SMTP id f7mr1742604wfi.51.1241349650292; Sun, 03 May 2009 04:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp-124-121-34-17.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.121.34.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm6879475wfg.5.2009.05.03.04.20.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 03 May 2009 04:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 18:20:40 +0700 From: Old Crankbuster To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net> References: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org> Organization: (something or other) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 released? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 11:52:35 -0000 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Frederique Rijsdijk [2009-05-03 13:13:23 +0200= ]: > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made. Hmm. I just installed 7.1 today. Should I download the new iso and install fresh, or upgrade? No real mods or extensive configuration has been done yet... Wait for the announcement? --=20 Cheers --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn9fggACgkQ5cpRcLTxAv4S/wCfVQpxY96w6tGBMeesY0avLqbB FlQAoLV5VaoXm7kQgntgJMSYf8MuZFbN =8nCE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 12:02:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B91210657CB for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 12:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43778FC1A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 12:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2226654wfg.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 05:02:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:organization:user-agent; bh=+1ejTiSQPRVPwZg5zQ4s2dHZjaSAafMscywLk9K35eE=; b=PWCeIDCus23QOnloI3VTeiHW/o2L2iz3+o+rjL3hBY6YNGvVsmmbYeb+q6YSuFKhkI B8Z2+nh9E6WKifOaSSJsGo87SExipWnf0TFylbiGsUudVTeMmdrbvCYnY1uqBLtrUpb6 M0RlmhFq7IIAWjIAkTw8wsmw4DAa4mXQyHWJo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:organization :user-agent; b=k7DrsK3o6PZiX13LTzlDRUH2JsvQHhVy9jdL9x0BulIjvEB/bUJ4aSIwWhWeumwzID IEuIgXu+CivSVWZW8LeLbgS3vvOKjezSeBvdYKlIWaNINda7DqeQzRDgU80EQZOWHru3 wONj9K0TTm1ug51tzXO/qjc6PFl9LqvBQn6bE= Received: by 10.142.157.9 with SMTP id f9mr1771292wfe.282.1241352162473; Sun, 03 May 2009 05:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp-124-121-34-17.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.121.34.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm12423891wfd.39.2009.05.03.05.02.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 03 May 2009 05:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:02:32 +0700 From: Old Crankbuster To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090503120232.GA7156@gecko.davescrunch.net> References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> <5e8ad96d0905022117hec3792eg435383ed26235440@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: (something or other) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Honey pot email address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 12:03:05 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Wojciech Puchar [2009-05-03 13:48:13 +02= 00]: > redirect to the president ? ;) Which one? --=20 Cheers --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn9h9gACgkQ5cpRcLTxAv6FSACdFWexoZZuvD7HjEdGAMN/Vlb8 54IAn0CgDs/LXVkbnnORLE0fbJFUCg6n =qJpl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 12:47:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE42C1065672 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 12:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734E78FC1E for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 12:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n43ClYIp017996; Sun, 3 May 2009 14:47:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1F56BA99; Sun, 3 May 2009 14:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 14:47:34 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Old Crankbuster Message-ID: <20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org> <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 released? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 12:47:37 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:20:40PM +0700, Old Crankbuster wrote: > * Frederique Rijsdijk [2009-05-03 13:13:23 +02= 00]: >=20 > > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are mad= e. >=20 > Hmm. I just installed 7.1 today. Should I download the new iso and > install fresh, or upgrade? No real mods or extensive configuration has > been done yet... If you haven't invested much time in it yet, install 7.2. Because if you run into problems with 7.1, that's the first advice you'll get anyway. > Wait for the announcement? No reason not to use them if the ISO images are available. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn9kmYACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX0DwCdF45rzeLp1yt4OGkpOfM7ZZBV PCkAnAliBKehG5muUZcyESWVJ7NuAMob =ffSa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 13:06:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D324106567A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18508FC16 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:62711 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0bOJ-00028t-8n for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 15:06:01 +0200 Received: (qmail 36492 invoked from network); 3 May 2009 15:05:57 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 3 May 2009 15:05:57 +0200 Received: (qmail 24331 invoked by uid 1001); 3 May 2009 15:05:57 +0200 Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 15:05:57 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20090503130557.GA24291@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org> <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net> <20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1M0bOJ-00028t-8n. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1M0bOJ-00028t-8n 61cf2b746b722c3503f911a2ea28b847 Cc: Old Crankbuster , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 released? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:06:14 -0000 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 02:47:34PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:20:40PM +0700, Old Crankbuster wrote: > > * Frederique Rijsdijk [2009-05-03 13:13:23 +0200]: > > > > > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made. > > > > Hmm. I just installed 7.1 today. Should I download the new iso and > > install fresh, or upgrade? No real mods or extensive configuration has > > been done yet... > > If you haven't invested much time in it yet, install 7.2. Because if you > run into problems with 7.1, that's the first advice you'll get anyway. > > > Wait for the announcement? > > No reason not to use them if the ISO images are available. There is no guarantee that those are the final images (although they likely are.) It has happened before that last-minute problems have been found resulting in a need for images being replaced by fixed ones before the announcement went out. I suggest you wait for the announcement. I believe the official release (and accompanying announcement) is planned for tomorrow, so unless some last-minute problem do pop you should not have to wait all that long. (And if there is some last-minute problem it is probably a good idea to wait until it is fixed.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 13:17:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AF2106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31728FC1A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n43DGSik080169; Sun, 3 May 2009 09:16:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n43DGR5n080168; Sun, 3 May 2009 09:16:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 09:16:27 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20090503131627.GA80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Fbsd1 Subject: Re: source for sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:17:09 -0000 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 04:46:55AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 wrote: > > How can i just download the source for sysinstall? > > http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ Wouldn't that be the binary and not the source? ////jerry > > > -- > Glen Barber > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 13:18:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C67106566C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3A38FC08 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n43DIK0s080188; Sun, 3 May 2009 09:18:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n43DIKdu080187; Sun, 3 May 2009 09:18:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 09:18:20 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Old Crankbuster Message-ID: <20090503131819.GB80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org> <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 released? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:19:00 -0000 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:20:40PM +0700, Old Crankbuster wrote: > * Frederique Rijsdijk [2009-05-03 13:13:23 +0200]: > > > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made. > > Hmm. I just installed 7.1 today. Should I download the new iso and > install fresh, or upgrade? No real mods or extensive configuration has > been done yet... > > Wait for the announcement? If you have the time, wait for the announcement and then download the new one and burn it and do it again. ////jerry > > -- > Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 13:19:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866B510656A7 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408958FC21 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c3so1987414ana.13 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 06:19:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cvzpn2kA5RCryIPI00v6rDHDtHFug7QAJdIovsM5GTM=; b=oA4yqXxjjgYtHjwfB6083+w2ipTrCR48qJp495TtSP5xNJG5g1leQPaTRxDCutyrkw t7NISGMf9J3e1GvJeWkU9mJAcackQ1njtb3R/wWD9VgIDwJGRerkZPPHcQcy7LZ25Aoj PSsemRvrVBkU71ll7nnxSP5fkqsEXRvVcG2iY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vp+rguFzqNw0JbkaxFQbsvyd5ggWEF1DyOvhLDqvXrbQnA+q3qzLmby3oVtRy+QJ8o yhvNUxvoMw8OCWEbFJxZnEj/gmw9U6Mp5gxs7m6rDqWrfDSYTUlsuMm/jW+WuCoUgjUz k9cA7vCbSqyv2OjKdCaldId80V52djLUL6Vzk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.43.10 with SMTP id q10mr10357789anq.144.1241356761677; Sun, 03 May 2009 06:19:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090503131627.GA80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> <20090503131627.GA80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 09:19:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310905030619l7f176a69v6b118ecd79916e76@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: source for sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:19:23 -0000 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > Wouldn't that be the binary and not the source? > It would be the binary once the source is compiled, yes. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 13:20:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAC510656C0 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BE48FC13 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n43DK0IJ080228; Sun, 3 May 2009 09:20:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n43DJxfh080227; Sun, 3 May 2009 09:19:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 09:19:59 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20090503131959.GC80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com> <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com> <20090503131627.GA80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4ad871310905030619l7f176a69v6b118ecd79916e76@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905030619l7f176a69v6b118ecd79916e76@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: source for sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:20:40 -0000 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:19:21AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Wouldn't that be the binary and not the source? > > > > It would be the binary once the source is compiled, yes. > Didn't even see the 'svn' at the beginning of the URL. ////jerry > > -- > Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 13:30:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A049D1065675 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from mailserv.mta.ca (mailserv.mta.ca [138.73.1.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EFC8FC17 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (helo=qemg.org) by mailserv.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1M0bmJ-0000HC-3F; Sun, 03 May 2009 10:30:47 -0300 Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 10:34:31 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Wright To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Message-ID: References: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xdvi with amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:30:49 -0000 Hello Oliver; On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Is there known issue with the port of Xdvi (/usr/ports/print/xdvi) on > 6.4 amd64? > > I suspect there is a problem with the size of the int/short/long as > Xdvi detects wrong number of bits in some font files, while these same > font files are used without problem by other ports and are identical > to font files generated in x86 system. Though I am now on 7.1, I was using xdvi on 6.4/amd64 without noticing any issues. Exactly which fonts are you having trouble with? I can tell you whether I can reproduce the issue under 7.1. Andrew. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 13:55:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73067106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdpatt2@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C44E8FC1B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdpatt2@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2254079wfg.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 06:55:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:organization:user-agent; bh=HUrvw4fpl4osx0YaXw/WqLtN//2hn4e4oj8Af7XG3vI=; b=oSVm6xO0aw5AiCNbUSwwnUeGVzTJW/OH62n/Ru+5KXeBCFX9i7/Rnw/zbM+gV8K9tc BBw3gWRw8zOwPCy7Vf9biCf6Jos2t209BUSQNCiCt2th4+kddOgq5l6iqkVQX+IEPKth MhgLfqZy3jRu+7FBTc8SyROLq/+u1c1Z6F5EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:organization :user-agent; b=smNZqUWELnpZ6ciRYehyOKy6CLYKFrb5meH7+48fquM0vMzBjmnO+UNXmultlOiag/ lsOPH2S/ir8ftuSe2rxpqnJYrSy/9TzXrjEM/LUBmrZJsDOA50iH3oFSSuz14de6HXO5 Ami6roxGH8/lODbtkmMus9JRFm3RsFA4bWPFo= Received: by 10.143.15.11 with SMTP id s11mr1892617wfi.283.1241357196863; Sun, 03 May 2009 06:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp-124-121-34-17.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.121.34.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm7153392wfd.23.2009.05.03.06.26.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 03 May 2009 06:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:26:27 +0700 From: Dave Patterson To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20090503132627.GA10406@gecko.davescrunch.net> References: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org> <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net> <20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Organization: (maybe) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 released? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:55:01 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Roland Smith [2009-05-03 14:47:34 +0200]: > If you haven't invested much time in it yet, install 7.2. Because if you > run into problems with 7.1, that's the first advice you'll get anyway. Ah. Downloading now. =20 > No reason not to use them if the ISO images are available. Thank you. --=20 Cheers --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn9m4MACgkQntTzTLSnpZ/2pwCffOl+HbimopCu0pm8ImWMm3fI FToAn2zqHi0ztJNen31/uA4hRgQmgu2o =4TYQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 13:57:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E45106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@windstream.net) Received: from ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net (ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net [166.102.165.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEBE8FC0A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 13:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@windstream.net) Received: from ext-b14-146.omhq.uprr.com ([67.206.60.146]) by ispmxfep08-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20090503133944.FWSG27628.ispmxfep08-srv.windstream.net@ext-b14-146.omhq.uprr.com> for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 08:39:44 -0500 From: Tyson Boellstorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 08:30:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905030830.51477.perlcat@windstream.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at ispmxfep08-srv.windstream.net from [67.206.60.146] using ID perlcat at Sun, 3 May 2009 08:39:44 -0500 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=/2TjcFX5WNfma4gvKvqbbg==:17 a=zVKVY6HglXzEJ-ZxHRUA:9 a=_LrjUPdwAcy2hYsErwcA:7 a=sFJBQX64bdofT5qD-vi1q6GjolYA:4 Subject: Re: Honey pot email address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:57:17 -0000 On Friday 01 May 2009 23:57:46 Andrew wrote: > Hi All, > > I've created a honey pot email address for SPAM. > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing > lists as possible? > Subscribe to anything that promises FREE games or graphical amusements of the salacious and binary nature. That, or you could tell your upper management that this is a safe email address to give out when filling out forms. (Not that they *would* mind you -- they prefer to use their company email for that, with predictable results.) But I digress. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 15:20:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F63106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 15:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00AE8FC13 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 15:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsECAOZM/UmWZWdv/2dsb2JhbAAIvgoHjU6DfQU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,286,1238941800"; d="scan'208";a="373302078" Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.144]) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 May 2009 00:35:13 +0930 From: Wayne Sierke To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 00:35:11 +0930 Message-Id: <1241363111.8180.21.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 15:20:31 -0000 On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 18:49 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > hello, > > Today I have finally upgraded my system to 7.1-RELEASE and just noticing > that mysql process is not being shown via the top command. > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 1612 root 1 20 0 9212K 6716K pause 2 0:26 0.00% perl5.8.9 > 966 www 1 8 0 8236K 5452K nanslp 2 0:22 0.00% perl5.8.9 > 1594 root 1 20 0 8740K 6220K pause 0 0:12 0.00% perl5.8.9 > > However, if you grep processes, you can see it should be displayed in the > top entries. > $ ps ax |grep mysql > 32880 p0- I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe... > 32906 p0- S 1:33.72 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld... > > I can live with that but maybe there's some explanation for this? > > Thanks! > >From the manpage for top(1): FreeBSD NOTES DISPLAY OF THREADS The '-H' option will toggle the display of kernel visible thread con- texts. At runtime the 'H' key will toggle this mode. The default is OFF. Should reveal the "missing" thread(s). This was raised by someone else last November also examining mysqld. Look for a thread titled "top incorrectly reporting process time". 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Radek Krejca" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.14) Professional Organization: STARNET, s. r. o. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Quagga problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Bc. Radek Krejca" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 17:54:09 -0000 Hello, starting this day I have problem with quagga, I get this messages in my log: May 3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: Assertion `len < str_size' failed in file bg= p_aspath.c, line 619, function aspath_make_str_count May 3 19:15:36 gw kernel: pid 7225 (bgpd), uid 101: exited on signal 6 May 3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: No backtrace available on this platform. I have latest verison of port quagga, I looks as bug in quagga, but I dont know. Do you have any idea for solution? Thanks Radek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 18:40:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC473106566B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 18:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from web.hostmailing.com (web.hostmailing.com [200.110.145.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03758FC0C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 18:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from web.hostmailing.com ([200.110.145.34] helo=www.hostmailing.com) by web.hostmailing.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M0hOC-0000eS-6H for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 16:30:16 -0300 Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:30:16 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Exemys Message-ID: <13c915526491f115459852ed8aadf9d7@www.hostmailing.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: wh4535 [version 3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ethernet - Internet I/O X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: exemys@exemys.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 18:40:39 -0000 This is a message in multipart MIME format. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 18:45:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEA31065670 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 18:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581B38FC0A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 18:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n43Ijkcv012328; Sun, 3 May 2009 20:45:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8DAE9B850; Sun, 3 May 2009 20:45:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:45:46 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "Bc. Radek Krejca" Message-ID: <20090503184546.GA4380@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quagga problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 18:45:52 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:27:25PM +0200, Bc. Radek Krejca wrote: > Hello, >=20 > starting this day I have problem with quagga, I get this messages > in my log: >=20 > May 3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: Assertion `len < str_size' failed in file = bgp_aspath.c, line 619, function aspath_make_str_count > May 3 19:15:36 gw kernel: pid 7225 (bgpd), uid 101: exited on signal 6 > May 3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: No backtrace available on this platform. >=20 > I have latest verison of port quagga, I looks as bug in quagga, > but I dont know. Do you have any idea for solution? It is a bug in quagga, or rather a condition that triggers a built-in verification macro called assert(3). Normal behavior for this macro is to terminate the program if the asserted condition fails, as it does here. It looks if a function that calculates the length of a string gets a larger value than it can cope with. It is possible that an internal buffer for a string isn't large enough. In this day and age I would respectfully call that bad coding. You should report it to the author(s), sinze they put in this check. It is possible to disable this bahaviour at compile time, see assert(3). But this is unwise unless you know what you're doing. Without diving into the source code, it is impossible to be certain that this is not a FreeBSD bug. But it looks more like ungracefull handling of an error condition. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn95loACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWGCgCfQia1PONYYzGUoh9ZPcqrsVaW xhQAnRNzbX+TO2voHB/Wddum0QoLeGxJ =TJgL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 19:14:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D3B106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 19:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8D88FC08 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 19:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2581423qwe.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 12:14:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J9iP4rmbHqPOON2+lKcxh4H8A14wNVmw/gWbiAgvDJg=; b=ZWs3DRxWI8F24eVnARK5uuc4vC8KjV/v74Nin/jzGE7GE8u52ERWKyShfR4YO7tvH1 mw/zEix6fEdMuiOgkumUcb2VxAzvy45ZecgGI7IOslNTsPteVllg94ufPeNIlf8gkWaF GEVMhQLJXja1nEOV57SV2A8UL6XvCu+nQHR8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=w3fjhCyIFDj9uE9V1c2RapOp6bQsyh/Vv4nffd3Mg8G+Nx38L3uNlKrEOArA7y2omq Kxnq9fzcRyXLIMlbq8cdVIOo5AwBo/m1QFBIQ8OG0lGznYEnoclNMd5GOPii5YC362t8 /idDSx7ltQ654fSHbrNrGkCYPyQZojQLhEU3c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.100.142 with SMTP id y14mr7910642vcn.73.1241376390827; Sun, 03 May 2009 11:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 11:46:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: jw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 19:14:40 -0000 Currently, if I log in, do some work, then log out (from plain TTY, no X/SSH/etc), the output of my previous session is still readable above the new "login: " prompt. One can use scroll lock to view even more. How do I get it to clear the screen (and the scroll buffer) when the login prompt gets redisplayed? -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 19:28:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4209B106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 19:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C87888FC08 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 19:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 59718 invoked from network); 3 May 2009 19:28:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=sFRQjRF/DdPE5Ko5in4EOeO+Za6geG8P8sPS3H0eM8mXVC7MJ30JTit7Iz15Qc6fVunY1GxyDRF8ZvwAofJTyLtJPxs3tV2WaYLjDlq8cmUf40BdMM5QZo3LURRvA/MT77U80n1RhAflaUWWRtXByOJAaUSjRM5UwiNj7GP/4Tk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2009 19:28:21 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bKA0oxAVM1kL_qljfN30KTcuXMFV8pGq3Dw3vgayYplrqg.SDT6rDw3oUC.t2ojtYQv7zE3Hzf9GQfRyzUPP9VBuZSbVeMX5tqoR549sYRFGJLay.SLPWNJHLZJHSwVPFK7taC1v084.J030C9f2y4st7pSShO5Il.k8ad7wy9HJKVlguXIwHC5JxejWHADPDtxeA_0orT30wAqIehAMB1tsVN5tNP2MafOjHc2i.jel42hz30F4zo5olS81T5rQwaWQyIDPMIzJEAPxlldH1F.ooxI4x.6ydDsrBCUaxaVR1VqJrIoazzHMn0DT8KDD1udQ8cC48fO3NP_a8Xo- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 15:28:09 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090503152809.686e5d83@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <13c915526491f115459852ed8aadf9d7@www.hostmailing.com> References: <13c915526491f115459852ed8aadf9d7@www.hostmailing.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/eEW.+pR7n_/i7RXd1N+4/I1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: Ethernet - Internet I/O X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 19:28:23 -0000 --Sig_/eEW.+pR7n_/i7RXd1N+4/I1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 3 May 2009 16:30:16 -0300 Exemys wrote: >This is a message in multipart MIME format. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 19:29:45 -0000 Frederique Rijsdijk wrote: > Christer Solskogen wrote: >> How come http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ have the isos for 7.2-RELEASE >> while the announce have not? >> > > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made. > > Then they give a day or two for all the mirrors to propagate. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 19:48:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5066106566C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 19:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johndoeismyname@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f162.google.com (mail-gx0-f162.google.com [209.85.217.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5748FC0A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 19:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johndoeismyname@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so245828gxk.19 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 12:48:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Dj2Q07pAUu21BxRU20w2/n1gjqm4q6TgFh0zvSb2u/g=; b=q4cvdwmSXJyLdBbK7iN3W/rUwFdx/CfRVpv4//2GVp7fTfXGQCXdbQGlKBVLrclIw6 H4DDQ8pTpXs/HWthdvef7cBaEj+ZWjGcxMR//+st7u0DEsuzfhyVroxdHlYUUABqQpWh X6nfQnK50HIFA7RdUj8SJ55DlGhaSKKWYgr68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PnjhRhGtYePCGLSJV/2q9nvlqs6ANHX+9ESTn2Q6ANQZ4GuL/urtWVy8dxe8IOs9qB xZJJqJZHCKwO6CrePMH1kbiE8/udVK8pJ6KubJZjfkky10a7R85inwTJ0GfuMimE2jEF y89fmgW0P2nDhB4LAiYnXp+OPHF81Lbnisbws= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.135.8 with SMTP id m8mr10490920ybn.228.1241380095875; Sun, 03 May 2009 12:48:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 15:48:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: gabe g To: jwdevel@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 19:48:17 -0000 Hey John, In order to achieve this, there are two methods that I know of, however, they are only tested in the Bourne and Bourne Again shells. clear && logout # Bourne Again (Bash) Shell clear && exit # Bourne (sh) Shell You may have to try similar commands (specific for that shell) for shells that are not Bourne-derived, but one of these two commands should almost always work. Sincerely, Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 19:53:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E3710656F7 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 19:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emiel@vandelaar.name) Received: from mx0.rednode.nl (spitfire.rednode.nl [80.69.81.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE948FC0C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 19:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emiel@vandelaar.name) Received: from DSPAM-Daemon (localhost.rednode.nl [127.0.0.1]) by mx0.rednode.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 642831701C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 21:53:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.20] (a83-163-43-2.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.163.43.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx0.rednode.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55DB11700C; Sun, 3 May 2009 21:53:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <847CE7F3-2961-41B9-9A94-2F3520C9F773@vandelaar.name> From: Emiel van de Laar To: gabe g In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:53:10 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun May 3 21:53:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 1.0000 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0023 X-DSPAM-Signature: 199,49fdf629552961783933667 Cc: jwdevel@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 19:53:15 -0000 On May 3, 2009, at 9:48 PM, gabe g wrote: > Hey John, > In order to achieve this, there are two methods that I know of, > however, they are only tested in the Bourne and Bourne Again shells. > > clear && logout # Bourne Again (Bash) Shell > clear && exit # Bourne (sh) Shell > > You may have to try similar commands (specific for that shell) for > shells > that are not Bourne-derived, but one of these two commands should > almost > always work. Hello, zsh has ".zlogout" which gets read/executed when the shell exits. I have the following setup: ~ % cat ~/.zlogout clear Perhaps other shells have a similar feature. Regards, - Emiel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 20:13:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EA4106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 20:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D7B8FC13 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 20:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.141] (helo=smtp10.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0i4M-0003Nj-R8; Sun, 03 May 2009 22:13:50 +0200 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp10.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0i4L-0004Oh-P0; Sun, 03 May 2009 22:13:49 +0200 Received: from mbp.egypt.nl (mbp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.33]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D233983C; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <0593A9C9-1B4A-44C1-BC9B-7BA335B2C5B6@boosten.org> From: Peter Boosten To: gabe g In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.4) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:13:43 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.4) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1M0i4L-0004Oh-P0 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.6, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: jwdevel@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 20:13:52 -0000 On 3 mei 2009, at 21:48, gabe g wrote: > Hey John, > In order to achieve this, there are two methods that I know of, > however, they are only tested in the Bourne and Bourne Again shells. > > clear && logout # Bourne Again (Bash) Shell > clear && exit # Bourne (sh) Shell > > You may have to try similar commands (specific for that shell) for > shells > that are not Bourne-derived, but one of these two commands should > almost > always work. > clear > /etc/issue Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 20:40:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7900B106564A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 20:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1CE8FC0A for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 20:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 705672840D; Mon, 4 May 2009 08:40:18 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:40:18 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: jw Message-ID: <20090503204018.GB66094@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 20:40:20 -0000 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 11:46:30AM -0700, jw wrote: > Currently, if I log in, do some work, then log out (from plain TTY, no > X/SSH/etc), the output of my previous session is still readable above > the new "login: " prompt. One can use scroll lock to view even more. > > How do I get it to clear the screen (and the scroll buffer) when the > login prompt gets redisplayed? If you're using tcsh, you can put the following into ~/.logout: clear -- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes down the vest of fear" - Edmond Blackadder III From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 20:51:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980E0106566B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 20:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A9F8FC25 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 20:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so3234851bwz.43 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 13:51:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ybl+IZTerGHcFIdXHvx8/1u9+/mYFT/QqTHFGaPSOeY=; b=pf9lyFEFbRWN+QWGeIqjYV+De4r/u2sB+JXcVu7arqz2q9m35jydYNligaH0frmI6y NSnoPouC0x/1zosgPldM27GgnIYYMV55glMAVa50EX+3OfKFNKhBEq+ul8iqpKULbKRA V7nD+sGAJFGbqavr/MEdUcZTrEpLryJnfOdc0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZfheRsoD9mXQDcRk+GZsec2qqsTGSzq/or74STJV8t0V7SQxhfw31b8YWsjtXkgLpX IjnrUNtrPPT+oH5AhD9bLPmf7A1TRKagorqalVHHF8+OWppZILCLnEsgTpjnlg288G1s ZjogxtLSYDTBM0Ph07CQ08eIse3l2YxnjE5Gc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.131.143 with SMTP id 15mr268162hbn.140.1241383902566; Sun, 03 May 2009 13:51:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:51:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: jw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 20:51:45 -0000 On 5/3/09, jw wrote: > Currently, if I log in, do some work, then log out (from plain TTY, no > X/SSH/etc), the output of my previous session is still readable above > the new "login: " prompt. One can use scroll lock to view even more. > > How do I get it to clear the screen (and the scroll buffer) when the > login prompt gets redisplayed? My /etc/csh.logout and /etc/csh.login contains: echo $TERM | grep cons25 >> /dev/null && clear && vidcontrol -C For other shells it's similar. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 21:22:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C646106567B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 21:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DF68FC14 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 21:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so6747655qyk.3 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:22:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dxo8v4bKdf2scEEegwMGCcik6XnOh/mtvdSiqT7+IuA=; b=IdVXM2xlEzplpFCeLYivW+bj0vOAFszUfOEZ+q82LTMGvzvSpb5VchI/mw/FZO5SAo mM94TcQqNqR/rkibK62XFJFLSYFDDwL5PS96WlCpzYArCZkQ/AUeZunW4aoAC+1FWRF9 4aE2ylq12B6KkJtFLa3kwxJ1lySnPKs0LEb2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NbmJixeTNK8P1RnUPoCWCOdZBH30lIWq6bcPLIpIt6vwCNgSGSEuM6IMmvPmJdvdXh gQlEZFuEhhd7Ep7PkACnFhknkk/P/RfKY3pUV0Nhvc2m2/i96PcfsdK1UFD3kWm7BDiQ PZJJHuCnf8uzQCRE2jOi7Jphyx4tJBOCE5cB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.73.203 with SMTP id r11mr8292779vcj.61.1241385737293; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:22:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 14:22:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: jw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 21:22:18 -0000 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM, gabe g wrote: > Hey John, > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 In order to achieve this, there are two methods that I kn= ow of, > however, they are only tested in the Bourne and Bourne Again shells. > > clear && logout=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Bourne = Again (Bash) Shell > clear && exit=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= # Bourne (sh) Shell > I tried this, but I can still scroll back with the scroll lock key. 'clear' seems to just put the prompt at the top of the screen, not get rid of scroll history... -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 21:29:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2134E106566B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 21:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD738FC1B for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 21:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2616918qwe.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:29:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AxW0LnSnSfdfDqPYanY9Zl6n4awfUpsDYsZTg99IwII=; b=SYVCLIgtbk5CztLilIOn0UQ5+PYG6mTVUN+UVhwX+NM1K5hBCwBbJeJ/V9ZW7uTpCf rgXnzYkijoKz+0oTr4umtyere1VbRF94Zl9Tu2THVm75PG/hOTxINoUfsS8KZDu8SJwS TfIljfLwVZZpLR8FfA8WKJxWf4JeDZ/5bZtkw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xlLwzm9ZjRBmKztSWslzckv/EE2D0w9Jyuw4tABC8C34VmjNSmvtMFPWr6ts1qnuZo WwPxcSbFGX4l9c1IcZB3MyGK48/7Oa9YPCQd5QGToKxIQTzEkmw8ddA12a77pEkcrF4w vkT4Lwi528ZG4kAKGlaVAorBJghRpED55wwoM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.86.204 with SMTP id t12mr8340013vcl.32.1241386150979; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:29:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 14:29:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: jw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 21:29:12 -0000 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > > echo $TERM | grep cons25 >> /dev/null && clear && vidcontrol -C > Aha! I didn't know about 'vidcontrol -C' That combined with 'clear' does the trick. However... Is there any way I could have this execute when the "login:" prompt displays, rather than having each user need to do it themselves? In other words, I want this clearing to happen for all users regardless of shell, etc. I haven't seen anything in login(1) or login.conf(5) that allows this kind of customization, but maybe I missed it... -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 22:18:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7766C106566C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372D98FC0C for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1EE16C0101; Mon, 4 May 2009 00:18:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n43MIMN9003083; Mon, 4 May 2009 00:18:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 00:18:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jw Message-Id: <20090504001822.b30ffb2f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 22:18:30 -0000 On Sun, 3 May 2009 11:46:30 -0700, jw wrote: > How do I get it to clear the screen (and the scroll buffer) when the > login prompt gets redisplayed? Two options: a) Clear everything right after login. Put the command "clear" in your ~/.login, or /etc/csh.login for all users. b) Clear everything right after logout, so the new login will get a blank screen. Put the command "clear" in your ~/.logout, or /etc/csh.logout for all users. This assumes that you have the standard dialog shell csh. If you're using bash, you need to modify its respective files, ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc - I don't know, I'm using csh. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 3 22:20:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F4010656AA for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F998FC26 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090503211845.YCTK29157.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 15:18:45 -0600 Received: from nehe.gateway.2wire.net (d142-59-188-207.abhsia.telus.net [142.59.188.207]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 319A25263824D0EE for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 15:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <49FE0A33.5040804@telus.net> Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 15:18:43 -0600 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Apache errors. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 22:20:27 -0000 Just started getting this.. can anyone tell me how to fix it? Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration: httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol "libintl_bindtextdomain" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 00:07:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A33106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 00:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewdg@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B88E8FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 00:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewdg@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2398439wfg.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 17:07:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zvg1imddx6ohQ52GC8Qk0/Yp3GYvWeh4/HMK3Lw+H6E=; b=QUfX1ZSrp7jmdhwDAunAvqypbsFiCecnLgsxsvGFV9jA9lc1+Np9M8ZRcQ32gBC+NO smNrxp0Mk58zvnd2RiL9KBrGyjQf7d8Wh0ZSV7bKFP2rYuNnRuxgn1ktjrw2tYjHvF/A g6kV/6j8ku1huTlY7PoMbGQg57W9qjzOK8aKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Y55RdfIChnBxGCXMbF/d138jznMIcabAFhLBN5lm+pTLNa576NPNgKWYVRa9YTeaf+ TcWJudr1l0JEcwOEz9PS49WcBbslr4fIR22hwOdnQwGY0A9rVL4lzlIrKGbo9MmxJz2/ XAhj1Ki2TknCfHh/1NPrERkVhVYUva0XeU+28= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: andrewdg@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.100.1 with SMTP id x1mr1851440wfb.256.1241395676063; Sun, 03 May 2009 17:07:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49FC10DE.9000401@isafeelin.org> References: <49FC10DE.9000401@isafeelin.org> From: nf Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:07:41 +1000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7bf11e7bb19a22dc Message-ID: To: Frederique Rijsdijk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Poor ZFS performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 00:07:56 -0000 On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk wrote: > nf wrote: >> >> 733843456 bytes transferred in 61.124812 secs (12005656 bytes/sec) > > That is very low. I get about 60MB/sec in this way. Adding bs=1m it'll go up > to 240MB/sec even (raidz1 with 4*1TB). > > Could you show top -S ? I will, the next time I experience the issue. I had already rebooted the box, which immediately alleviated the issue. I can only presume, at this point, that it seems to have been related to the 2gb of allocated/active memory shown by top. I had no memory intensive apps running, merely an idle lighttpd, mysqld, and rtorrent (which only occupied about 90mb). Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 00:37:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15271065672 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 00:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95DA8FC16 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 00:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n440bKCc083829 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 3 May 2009 17:37:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n440bKW5083828; Sun, 3 May 2009 17:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02877; Sun, 3 May 09 17:26:06 PDT Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 17:27:32 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jwdevel@gmail.com Message-Id: <49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 00:37:22 -0000 jw wrote: > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > > echo $TERM | grep cons25 >> /dev/null && clear && vidcontrol -C > > Aha! I didn't know about 'vidcontrol -C' > That combined with 'clear' does the trick. > > However... > Is there any way I could have this execute when the "login:" > prompt displays, rather than having each user need to do it > themselves? > > In other words, I want this clearing to happen for all users > regardless of shell, etc. If I needed to do this, could not find a way to do it via configuration settings, and didn't want to hack the login source code, I would try renaming the login binary to something like login.real, and replacing it with an executable script containing something like: #!/bin/csh clear vidcontrol -C exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@" Granted such a hack will need to be redone any time you do an installworld. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 01:26:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6D8106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 01:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cchamb0@interchange.ubc.ca) Received: from mr3.mail-relay.ubc.ca (mr3.mail-relay.ubc.ca [137.82.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E008FC2B for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 01:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cchamb0@interchange.ubc.ca) Received: from mta1.interchange.ubc.ca (mta1.interchange.ubc.ca [142.103.145.69]) by mr3.mail-relay.ubc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A860181AB for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 18:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from handel.my.ubc.ca (handel.my.ubc.ca [137.82.115.14]) by smtp.interchange.ubc.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0KJ300M1CIOIEL@smtp.interchange.ubc.ca> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 18:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 18:26:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Chambers To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: uPortal WEB email client 3.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-UBC-Scanned: Sophos PureMessage 5.4.6.353000, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.1.350677, Antispam-Data: 2009.5.4.11327 X-UBC-Relayed: Relayed through mail-relay.ubc.ca X-PerlMx-Spam: Probability=8%, Report=SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_300_399 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, TO_NO_NAME 0, WEBMAIL_SOURCE 0, WEBMAIL_XMAILER 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_2 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Flag: No Cc: Subject: Broken Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 01:26:44 -0000 Hi, Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. Then using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the space to my freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot loader can not find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition under FixIt, but mount says "broken argument". Any ideas? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 01:41:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0562D106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 01:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEF18FC0C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 01:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.19] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n441faCx008763; Sun, 3 May 2009 21:41:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:41:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905032141.35347.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Chris Chambers Subject: Re: Broken Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 01:41:37 -0000 On Sunday 03 May 2009 09:26:42 pm Chris Chambers wrote: > Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. Then > using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the space to my > freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot loader can not > find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition under FixIt, but > mount says "broken argument". When you say "add the space to my freebsd partition" what exactly did you do? What device nodes are listed for your disk from the fixit environment? JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 02:00:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30AF106566B for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FAE8FC0A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901333396E0; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 03 May 2009 22:00:14 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: OkovJmbqeZZ0HcmIgwymmgIdGGjoixhlKMQ1oGwfkDjl 1241402414 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2672047228; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <39ADDCA2-77E6-46CE-BE21-5D976ACA77B4@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090503152809.686e5d83@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:00:12 -0500 References: <13c915526491f115459852ed8aadf9d7@www.hostmailing.com> <20090503152809.686e5d83@scorpio> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: Exemys Subject: Meta: useless text/plain part [Was: Ethernet - Internet I/O] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 02:00:20 -0000 On May 3, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 2009 16:30:16 -0300 > Exemys wrote: > >> This is a message in multipart MIME format. Your mail client should >> not be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view >> this message correctly. > > What is this all about? Exemys' mailer is broken. Here are the details: Exemys sent mail that was of type multipart/alternative meaning that each part is an alternative view of the content. However, exemys' mailer doesn't actually do what it should and the part that was text/plain just had the text that we saw while the other part (presumably text/html) had the real content. Mailman, the mailing list system used for the list, correctly cuts out text/html parts of multipart/alternative messages and just sends on the text/plain alternative to the list members. So the problem is that the original poster's mail headers falsely claim that the parts are genuine alternatives while in fact the text part is just a notice to read the other alternate. Mailman is behaving correctly in my view, stripping out any HTML alternates and just going with the text/plain alternative. Exemys' mailer is broken in that it sends messages that claim to provide a text/plain alternative, but doesn't actually honor that claim. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 02:30:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12423106564A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE52C8FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34945C26 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 16:15:49 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <49FE4F00.4070208@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 16:12:16 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: xorg error with xfce3 wm install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 02:30:00 -0000 Aloha, I have used XFCE (3) from ports on all my FreeBSD desktops since 3.* . I tried to install a test box with 8.0 CURRENT 200902 amd4 disc1.iso Everything was fine until I tried to run xfce_setup. It goes to a normal mouse arrow than dies off with this error. "xlib extension error" "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Has anyone on our list seen this? Any ideas how to fix this? Is there a line in the config that I can add manually? I have setup many XFCE3 desktops and other than unidentified video cards, which have to be replaced with something FreeBSD can identify and connect to, it has just worked. I find XFCE4 to loaded for the tasks I need. Thats why I use the older simpler version of this wm. I tried on the XFCE forum but no response from anybody there. Any help or direction on how to fix this is appreciated. Thanks.... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 03:21:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA82106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 03:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from gsicomp.on.ca (gsicomp.on.ca [200.46.208.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45B38FC1A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 03:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) by gsicomp.on.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8313BFCBDA7; Mon, 4 May 2009 03:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gsicomp.on.ca ([200.46.208.251]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59248-08; Mon, 4 May 2009 00:03:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hermes2 (CPE002129cfd480-CM001ac3584898.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.237.38.7]) by gsicomp.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id E9BD8FCA61A; Mon, 4 May 2009 03:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <6C3195FABAF8405ABA0692C53A20A523@hermes2> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: , References: <3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com> <49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:03:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 May 2009 04:06:37 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 03:21:52 -0000 0> jw wrote: >> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> > echo $TERM | grep cons25 >> /dev/null && clear && vidcontrol -C >> >> Aha! I didn't know about 'vidcontrol -C' >> That combined with 'clear' does the trick. >> >> However... >> Is there any way I could have this execute when the "login:" >> prompt displays, rather than having each user need to do it >> themselves? >> >> In other words, I want this clearing to happen for all users >> regardless of shell, etc. > > If I needed to do this, could not find a way to do it via > configuration settings, and didn't want to hack the login > source code, I would try renaming the login binary to > something like login.real, and replacing it with an > executable script containing something like: > > #!/bin/csh > clear > vidcontrol -C > exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@" > > Granted such a hack will need to be redone any time you do > an installworld. The solution I've deployed in my environment is to have /etc/issue contain a single ^L character. Prior to doing that, /etc/issue contained 25+ blank lines, which effectively cleared the terminal before displaying the login prompt. Regards, -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 04:15:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B698E106564A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 04:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from mailbackup.inode.at (mailbackup.inode.at [213.229.60.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BC88FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 04:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from [62.99.145.3] (port=32249 helo=mx.inode.at) by mailbackup.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1M0pEz-0000Ry-7v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2009 05:53:17 +0200 Received: from [84.119.8.155] (port=4475 helo=fz-sub1.local) by smartmx-03.inode.at with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0pEs-0005Jh-MN; Mon, 04 May 2009 05:53:10 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 05:53:17 +0200 From: Armin Pirkovitsch To: Jeff Molofee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090504054840inode@frozen-zone.org> References: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org> <49FE0A33.5040804@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49FE0A33.5040804@telus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: Apache errors. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Armin Pirkovitsch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 04:15:20 -0000 Hi! Have you tried to recompile the port from which that library came? (pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3 should help you finding the correct port if you do not know which port that is) Armin On Sun 03 May 2009, Jeff Molofee wrote: > Just started getting this.. can anyone tell me how to fix it? > > Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration: > httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: > /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol > "libintl_bindtextdomain" -- Armin Pirkovitsch a.pirko@inode.at From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 04:16:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA6B1065677 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 04:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4628FC08 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 04:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2725488qwe.7 for ; Sun, 03 May 2009 21:16:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=PQPAr+pvmL30nDB9tN5S+7FvUGZemdW26kLn1eV8k4c=; b=DhmnmenW915ugCMxPbJIcALgnYdmhbFsU2qLY6Q2GjM9AwPZM8zmY1xmSTz1rtBV6f UGZtSH/o4TYt7SNZhW8drgtVWOtFVCrQbGOdRJfY8srZMPtbcgoS6yDkz0otXuFbCWka LooPUirYekiiKH9KHQSlXhgTwDrYKbbjrLFEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=qYPCb4PqO4lvWp417m48zDcWoQbdz/pOU3l0bnVwaUKmIClvZD8VpsEMOMbccXs1Mx hKmGDo0Hmwl+ImkQZjAdWScGx/fnF7RapRog0Nqo8OfXcXAMd64JloYRM4W9kyH5ny7+ jtJWt05UYNNkpwV1f6z1WEp6QKpkjeqT47l3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.87.1 with SMTP id u1mr8592851vcl.2.1241410560303; Sun, 03 May 2009 21:16:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <58d1e8d30905011817i2591c0a8xdac47a2123b7e2b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com> <58d1e8d30905010835v5b474297q38e180fc43d444fc@mail.gmail.com> <58d1e8d30905011817i2591c0a8xdac47a2123b7e2b2@mail.gmail.com> From: Tim Judd Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:15:45 -0600 Message-ID: To: Bob Falanga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "illoai@gmail.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: where do I find libthr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 04:16:02 -0000 On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Bob Falanga wrote: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:36 PM, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > > 2009/5/1 Bob Falanga : > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:30 AM, illoai@gmail.com > > wrote: > > >> > > (please include the list in your email) > > > This is Andy replying for my father. Sorry about that. > > > > > > To rebuild your locate database, just run > > /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate > > > > It makes finding files much easier. > > > After rebuilding the locate database I get the following: > > [root@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# locate libthr > /compat/linux/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so > /compat/linux/lib/libthread_db.so.1 > /compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db-1.0.so > /compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db.so.1 > /usr/Programs/Wine0.9.61/autolibs/libthr.so.2 > /usr/Programs/e-Sword0.9.56/autolibs/libthr.so.2 > /usr/lib/libthr.a > /usr/lib/libthr.so > /usr/lib/libthr.so.2 > /usr/lib/libthr_p.a > /usr/lib/libthread_db.a > /usr/lib/libthread_db.so > /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.2 > /usr/lib/libthread_db_p.a > /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1 > /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1 > /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/files/patch-src_ptlib_unix_tlibthrd.cxx > /usr/share/man/cat3/libthr.3.gz > /usr/share/man/man3/libthr.3.gz > > However, after running > > ldconfig -r | grep libthr > > I get: > > [root@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# ldconfig -r | grep libthr > 623:-lthr.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1 > 624:-lthread_db.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1 > > With so many hits on libthr from locate, why is ldconfig only finding these > two instances in /usr/local/lib/compat? Aren't these for linux > compatibility? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ldconfig&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.1-RELEASE&format=html ldconfig(8) 2nd paragraph under Description You may need to rescan and re-update the hints file. See same manpage for info. > > > > > > > If that fails, I'm afraid you'll have to > > upgrade to 7.x > > > > I hope it doesn't come to that. > > Andy (for Bob) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 05:48:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57973106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 05:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B1A8FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 05:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n445marn017313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:48:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n445maFA017312 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 May 2009 22:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03613; Sun, 3 May 09 22:39:57 PDT Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 22:41:23 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <49fe8003.uFi88H0OvJL/NSy4%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SATA flash drive vs 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 05:48:37 -0000 Should FreeBSD handle SATA-attached flash drives? I have added a 64GB Patriot flash drive to a 7.0 system, but it does not seem to be working properly. Pertinent parts of dmesg.boot: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (449.85-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 67100672 (63 MB) avail memory = 51662848 (49 MB) ... atapci1: port 0x1800-0x180f,0x14f0-0x14ff,0x14e0-0x14ef,0x14d0-0x14df,0x14a0-0x14bf,0x1000-0x10ff irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ... ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 ad6: 61136MB at ata3-master SATA150 At first things look OK: $ ls -l /dev/ad6* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 88 May 3 20:30 /dev/ad6 $ file -s /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6: x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP MBR, Serial 0x9e5523de $ grep -w ad6 /usr/local/etc/mtools.conf drive f: file="/dev/ad6" $ mdir f: init F: non DOS media Cannot initialize 'F:' Now this seems a bit odd: file(1) says it's a Windows disk, but mdir(1) says it isn't. (Note that there are no slices, else the initial ls(1) should have shown them.) Then, when I tried to investigate further by examining the contents of the drive with "od -c /dev/ad6 | more", I got one screenful of output followed by (on console and in dmesg): interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=10712 interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936 etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C. (Just entering "q", to cause more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not stop the spew of messages.) What does this indicate? Bad drive? Controller? Configuration? PEBCAK? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 08:31:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A081065680 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 08:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17C38FC28 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 08:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=UHr3+uF0zjs5JpAaYZYYof5u+xUgR69PVBpNe2LyhJfPAkWkGztSDuR1gPgm4lZgqQgsZhGCuMv5hiU5P2CWAi7mx+budZW0bvQva8ZlutzQP3rYCmR0ZYNlAq+pEHrp; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:54840) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1M0ta0-000G3H-U4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2009 10:31:16 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:31:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20090501204351.GB44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090501204351.GB44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:1) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 08:31:20 -0000 On Friday 01 May 2009 22:43:51 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it > > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD > > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also > > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we > > are back where we started. > > What you want to do is use the fixit image to set up the disk. > That means fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs it. You can actually > use sysinstall to do this as well. Just let the installer come > up and do the disk stuff, choose minimal install and then after > it finishes making the disks, kill the rest of the install (or > just let it finish and then overwrite it. > > But, I find it actually easier to do the fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs-s > myself. But, then I am used to it. > > Right after you get done making sure where your fixit is living, > then use fdisk and bsdlabel to check for the way you have the disk > set up currently. Write it down or print it out and keep it > near that installation/fixit disk. [Lots of good stuff about creating the partitions] > Now all you have to do is newfs each partition. Just take the > defaults. Remember that newfs wants the full device spec, not > just the drive identifier. If you have kept the right information beforehand, you can actually restore your dumps onto ``bare metal'' without doing a partial install first, and with the same newfs settings for each partition as you originally had. You need to use bsdlabel and dumpfs -m and keep the output for rebuilding. The rest of this message is the details. On your running system, create and keep two files. My system has one slice, ad6s1, and the usual partitions - a for root, d for /tmp, e for /var, f for /usr, and I've shown the commands you need, and the resulting file contents on my current system, below: bsdlabel ad6s1 >ad6s1.label ad6s1.label contains: # /dev/ad6s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 b: 8388608 1048576 swap c: 156296322 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 20971520 9437184 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 e: 1048576 30408704 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 f: 124839042 31457280 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 I usually put all the spare space on a disk into /usr, so changing the first field on the f: line (the size) from 124839042 to * tells bsdlabel to do exactly that in case the replacement disk is a different size from the original. We now need the newfs settings for all the 4.2BSD filesystems except c, so (in sh syntax) for i in a d e f; do dumpfs -m ad6s1$i; done >newfscmds.ad6s1 newfscmds.ad6s1 now contains: # newfs command for ad6s1a (/dev/ad6s1a) newfs -O 2 -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o time -s 262144 /dev/ad6s1a # newfs command for ad6s1d (/dev/ad6s1d) newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o time -s 5242880 /dev/ad6s1d # newfs command for ad6s1e (/dev/ad6s1e) newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o time -s 262144 /dev/ad6s1e # newfs command for ad6s1f (/dev/ad6s1f) newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o time -s 31209760 /dev/ad6s1f take out the -s 31209760 in the command for ad6s1f (this is the size of the new filesystem and it defaults to the size of the partition - which we made to take up the rest of the disk). Now you can save these two files somewhere. When it comes to a catastrophic failure and restore, boot a liveCD. Use fdisk to create your single large slice on the new disk with fdisk -BI ad6 Use bsdlabel -R ad6s1 ad6s1.label to restore the disklabel. If your device name is different from before, you need to edit newfscmds.ad6s1 to change the ad6 to the new device name wherever it occurs, but you then run the newfs commands in the file to create your filesystems with the same parameters (softupdates on/off, etc) as before. You now have the basic structure of your previous disk, ready to have the root, /var/ and /usr dumps restored to make a running system identical to the destroyed one, with one last step: bsdlabel -B ad6s1 to put the boot code on the slice. (I haven't tried this bit, so if you're going to use the boot code from your root partition, which is stored at /boot/boot, you'll need to check whether you can run bsdlabel -B on a mounted disk. If you can, the command would be bsdlabel -B -b /mnt/boot/boot /dev/ad6s1 assuming you mounted /dev/ad6s1a on /mnt). If you have a different device name, of course, you also need to edit your fstab before rebooting. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 09:10:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C6F1065672 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517A28FC17 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n44985GY067405; Mon, 4 May 2009 11:08:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n44984W4067404; Mon, 4 May 2009 11:08:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:08:04 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Polytropon , PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca> <20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_45 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 May 2009 11:10:32 +0200 (CEST) Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost+found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:10:36 -0000 On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:06:27PM +0200, Polytropon typed: > On Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > > [~]# cd /tmp/lost+found/#123456 > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# ls > > Okay, it's empty. > > > > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd .. > > Strange, why does .. lead you from /tmp/lost+found/#123456 > to /tmp/lost+found/#123456, just as if cd wasn't executed? > > > > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd #123456 this returns and empty directory) > > Does /tmp/lost+found/#123456 contain another #123456? And > why does this cd lead you to your (root's) home directory? Probably because the # is interpreted as comment. I can reproduce this in a bourne shell; not in (t)csh. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 09:40:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C9D106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.tapac@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D718FC0A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.tapac@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2817382qwe.7 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 02:40:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=agaO0i85nGAWKZW27tPQqPOLdYqmnzSmrz1qyEVnzjk=; b=YT0hGF/lTgACWF8jh2okm7gcH4Yk22auAhTCHLGWgLNjOLRi8yzgciH3o6h/zNhhKe tQ3D5HZ6jK3mX1VmlEyx0XpcdCce8ReKBvyrAKb2HcwrdcQQ41AAJJzphHn6sjcMDuD4 ONumKZPJAozxfOLjZ9LvfuPlv6GHpsb0C2hLI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Wxawa8ZKvrXUBq5/e2QFnXln7z3DSRX+mfV3rQYWk4r2SSmvJiLZZRGEgY6sPVx0Lf crjk57WRPRkWF2eNgryj7VAIvgdtUTWjI8OcdlCjXvxG5kovwhmQEbOoCr+sr5TqgY/0 Bxk8m6WqKKzf7sNQV7Tg0QuuwxKmvOYpsXM3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.72.134 with SMTP id m6mr8911604vcj.63.1241430017129; Mon, 04 May 2009 02:40:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org> References: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca> <20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:40:17 +0700 Message-ID: <3b7dc6d0905040240t1a67c8e5s55b9450dc97c952c@mail.gmail.com> From: Alexander Tarasov To: Ruben de Groot , Polytropon , PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: lost+found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:40:18 -0000 "#" - is a comment.. in bash "cd" without dirname always return you to a home-directory.. "cd -" returns you to previous location, for example.. 2009/5/4 Ruben de Groot > On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:06:27PM +0200, Polytropon typed: > > On Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > > > [~]# cd /tmp/lost+found/#123456 > > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# ls > > > > Okay, it's empty. > > > > > > > > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd .. > > > > Strange, why does .. lead you from /tmp/lost+found/#123456 > > to /tmp/lost+found/#123456, just as if cd wasn't executed? > > > > > > > > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd #123456 this returns and empty directory) > > > > Does /tmp/lost+found/#123456 contain another #123456? And > > why does this cd lead you to your (root's) home directory? > > Probably because the # is interpreted as comment. I can reproduce this > in a bourne shell; not in (t)csh. > > Ruben > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 09:47:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E4E1065670 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A628FC1E for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAC9P/knUnw6S/2dsb2JhbAC+RgGNcIJMAYEwBQ Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.146]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 04 May 2009 10:18:01 +0100 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1M0uJF-0000e8-BT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2009 10:18:01 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0uJE-0000u8-PF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2009 10:18:01 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:18:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: bd9efda29ab2a6e5050fc77f92d479ae Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:47:04 -0000 On Monday 04 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > If I needed to do this, could not find a way to do it via > configuration settings, and didn't want to hack the login > source code, I would try renaming the login binary to > something like login.real, and replacing it with an > executable script containing something like: > > =A0 #!/bin/csh > =A0 clear > =A0 vidcontrol -C > =A0 exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@" But this wouldn't prevent someone scrolling back with the scroll lock=20 key before logging in. I assume the OP's requirement is to stop people=20 from seeing previous users console activity. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 12:45:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B732A1065674 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 12:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48D648FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 12:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 90392 invoked by uid 89); 4 May 2009 12:47:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 4 May 2009 12:47:11 -0000 Message-ID: <49FEE388.8020004@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 08:46:00 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bc. Radek Krejca" References: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz> In-Reply-To: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quagga problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:46:00 -0000 Bc. Radek Krejca wrote: > Hello, > > starting this day I have problem with quagga, I get this messages > in my log: > > May 3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: Assertion `len < str_size' failed in file bgp_aspath.c, line 619, function aspath_make_str_count > May 3 19:15:36 gw kernel: pid 7225 (bgpd), uid 101: exited on signal 6 > May 3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: No backtrace available on this platform. > > I have latest verison of port quagga, I looks as bug in quagga, > but I dont know. Do you have any idea for solution? Here is a link to a patch within the Quagga code base that resolves this issue: http://tinyurl.com/c8alza Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 13:10:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E05D1065677; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rea-fbsd@codelabs.ru) Received: from 0.mx.codelabs.ru (0.mx.codelabs.ru [144.206.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E1F8FC1F; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rea-fbsd@codelabs.ru) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=one; d=codelabs.ru; h=Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Sender; b=PE9JDDEuZar2mk6ngoJRX/I30Cwdoriez4YcR2oDWP5GaR/0ghl+NhxymH5ZUmOHN1cFNnFZiv9aReX+R8IBDVBpoO8igx/M27+x1DsHTrs9SaDZ1Ki+KpMGE1Z7aww+XuddSpXcPZXP9PHFfLn4r+p5VhlrOhGBi4O8heundKE=; Received: from amnesiac.at.no.dns (ppp85-141-64-167.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.141.64.167]) by 0.mx.codelabs.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) id 1M0xmc-00087u-F3; Mon, 04 May 2009 17:00:34 +0400 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:00:32 +0400 From: Eygene Ryabinkin To: Antonio Tommasi Message-ID: References: <49FA2E3F.9050108@entel.upc.edu> <3a142e750905010655i5e56282eu240e13f2a03dfb02@mail.gmail.com> <49FB55A3.605@entel.upc.edu> <3a142e750905011716g39ea55f0kd081bfdd55709b37@mail.gmail.com> <49FBF9B5.40800@entel.upc.edu> <3a142e750905020617y40f62463ma91b46a015b2b2ab@mail.gmail.com> <49FD61DD.7070903@entel.upc.edu> <3a142e750905030535v4cfe0103r1d8a17e828f6da9b@mail.gmail.com> <57348.147.83.40.234.1241416909.squirrel@webmail.entel.upc.edu> <49FEC893.8030305@unile.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <49FEC893.8030305@unile.it> Sender: rea-fbsd@codelabs.ru Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem and bigger files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rea-fbsd@codelabs.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 13:10:47 -0000 Antonio, good day. Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:50:59PM +0200, Antonio Tommasi wrote: > i've freebsd 7.0 in production and i've this hard-drive > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/aacd0s1a 64G 15G 44G 26% / > > In a directory (spamassassin) i've one file (auto-whitelist) with > dimension 4.0 TB and one file (bayes_learn) with dimension 1.0TB > > How is it possible? How this file are managed? First, this isn't a proper question for the freebsd-net mailing list, so I am redirecting it to freebsd-questions. To answer your question: most likely, your filesystem is damaged and should be fsck'ed. Reboot in a single-user mode and run 'fsck -p /dev/aacd0s1a' on your filesystem. If it will correct the things -- it's good. If not, run 'fsck /dev/aacd0s1a'. It is always good to have backups ;)) And the possible filesystem corruption is one of the reasons why people prefer multiple partitions on the system, rather then having one big and fat '/' partition. Another possibility is that these files are sparse: they have "holes" that aren't yet filled in. Tb sizes are insane, but may be you directed SA to do it. Here is the illustration of sparse file creation and its impact on the filesystem size: ----- Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s2f 24808094 14819988 8003460 65% /0 $ dd if=/dev/zero of=test.bin bs=1K count=1 seek=10M 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1024 bytes transferred in 0.000049 secs (20951060 bytes/sec) $ ls -l test.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 usr usr 10737419264 4 ÍÁÊ 16:54 test.bin $ df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s2f 24808094 14820046 8003402 65% /0 ----- -- Eygene _ ___ _.--. # \`.|\..----...-'` `-._.-'_.-'` # Remember that it is hard / ' ` , __.--' # to read the on-line manual )/' _/ \ `-_, / # while single-stepping the kernel. `-'" `"\_ ,_.-;_.-\_ ', fsc/as # _.-'_./ {_.' ; / # -- FreeBSD Developers handbook {_.-``-' {_/ # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 13:39:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D68B106564A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9258FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n44DcsWx084308; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:38:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n44DcsGG084307; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:38:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:38:54 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Chris Chambers Message-ID: <20090504133854.GA84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 13:39:38 -0000 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:26:42PM -0700, Chris Chambers wrote: > Hi, > > Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. Then > using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the space to my > freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot loader can not > find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition under FixIt, but mount > says "broken argument". You cannot just slab it on the side of an existing slice with fdisk. You have to create a brand new slice that uses up all the space. There is something called growfs(8) in FreeBSD, but that works on FreeBSD filesystems (FreeBSD partitions) rather than slices. So, you might be able to use the fixit to go back and restore the slice to the way it was and get a backup of it. I am not sure. Do you have any information on exactly which sector it previously started on? You would have to create a slice _identical_ to the old one (without any extra added on) and then use fdisk and bsdlabel to restore the labels _exactly_ as before. Then you might be able to read stuff. I am not sure what fsck would do with it because some links probably have been wiped out. If you can get it to where dump(8) can make a dump of the each of the partitions in the slice (except swap and /tmp - don't back up swap or bother with /tmp), then do that. Then, go back to Partition Magic and delete the FreeBSD slice and then create a completely new one that combines the space of what you shaved off from MSdos with the previous FreeBSD slice. Then you can go back to sysinstall (or manually with fdisk-bsdlabel-newfs) and create the new, larger FreeBSD slice, divide it in to partitions and make file systems out of them with newfs. I think you will be extremely lucky if you can pull off rescuing the old FreeBSD slice though. You will have to get it to start on the same sector and have identical links. You might have to use backup superblocks that are built in to the filesystems if you can get to them. This probably stems from a misunderstanding on how slices, partitions and filesystems work. Although most everything is flexible, the beginnings of each are rather fixed and cannot be arbitrarily shoved around without being remade from scratch. ////jerry > > Any ideas? > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 13:59:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD223106564A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854388FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n44DxFAw084378; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:59:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n44DxEc8084377; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:59:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:59:14 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jonathan McKeown Message-ID: <20090504135914.GB84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20090501204351.GB44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 13:59:58 -0000 On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:31:16AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009 22:43:51 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > > > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it > > > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD > > > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also > > > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we > > > are back where we started. > > > > What you want to do is use the fixit image to set up the disk. > > That means fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs it. You can actually > > use sysinstall to do this as well. Just let the installer come > > up and do the disk stuff, choose minimal install and then after > > it finishes making the disks, kill the rest of the install (or > > just let it finish and then overwrite it. > > > > But, I find it actually easier to do the fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs-s > > myself. But, then I am used to it. > > > > Right after you get done making sure where your fixit is living, > > then use fdisk and bsdlabel to check for the way you have the disk > > set up currently. Write it down or print it out and keep it > > near that installation/fixit disk. > > [Lots of good stuff about creating the partitions] > > > Now all you have to do is newfs each partition. Just take the > > defaults. Remember that newfs wants the full device spec, not > > just the drive identifier. > > If you have kept the right information beforehand, you can actually restore > your dumps onto ``bare metal'' without doing a partial install first, and > with the same newfs settings for each partition as you originally had. You > need to use bsdlabel and dumpfs -m and keep the output for rebuilding. The > rest of this message is the details. If you have a specific reason to want your new filesystems' to have identical superblock info, you can use dumpfs -m, but you don't need to worry about all that. Just fdisk, bsdlabel and then let newfs take its defaults. You do not need an identical filesystem to do a restore(8) on it. Restore builds it from scratch in the correct way - in fact in a better way than what it was before the system was whacked. So, just build the new disk either manually or with sysinstall and then restore the dumps within the filesystems. Make sure you cd in to the mounted filesystem - note, since you are running from a fixit, you are making up new mount points and mounting the filesystems from the new disk. Something like: mkdir /newroot mount /dev/ad0s1a /newroot cd /newroot restore -rf /dev/nsa0 (replace /dev/nsa0 with wherever you are reading the dump. don't forget to position the tape with mt fsf nn if it is a tape) You can also skip the fdisk if you are running only FreeBSD from that disk and don't mind using what is called a 'dangerously dedicated' disk. It isn't really all that dangerous. No weird creatures will climb out and grab you by the throat at night. If you do dangerously dedicated, the device addressing leaves out the slice specifier (s1, s2, s3 or s4) and would look something like: /dev/ad0a instead of /dev/ad0s1a. ////jerry > > On your running system, create and keep two files. My system has one slice, > ad6s1, and the usual partitions - a for root, d for /tmp, e for /var, f > for /usr, and I've shown the commands you need, and the resulting file > contents on my current system, below: > > bsdlabel ad6s1 >ad6s1.label > > ad6s1.label contains: > > # /dev/ad6s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 > b: 8388608 1048576 swap > c: 156296322 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't > edit > d: 20971520 9437184 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > e: 1048576 30408704 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 > f: 124839042 31457280 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > I usually put all the spare space on a disk into /usr, so changing the first > field on the f: line (the size) from 124839042 to * tells bsdlabel to do > exactly that in case the replacement disk is a different size from the > original. > > We now need the newfs settings for all the 4.2BSD filesystems except c, so (in > sh syntax) > > for i in a d e f; do dumpfs -m ad6s1$i; done >newfscmds.ad6s1 > > newfscmds.ad6s1 now contains: > > # newfs command for ad6s1a (/dev/ad6s1a) > newfs -O 2 -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o > time -s 262144 /dev/ad6s1a > # newfs command for ad6s1d (/dev/ad6s1d) > newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o > time -s 5242880 /dev/ad6s1d > # newfs command for ad6s1e (/dev/ad6s1e) > newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o > time -s 262144 /dev/ad6s1e > # newfs command for ad6s1f (/dev/ad6s1f) > newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o > time -s 31209760 /dev/ad6s1f > > take out the -s 31209760 in the command for ad6s1f (this is the size of the > new filesystem and it defaults to the size of the partition - which we made > to take up the rest of the disk). > > Now you can save these two files somewhere. When it comes to a catastrophic > failure and restore, boot a liveCD. Use fdisk to create your single large > slice on the new disk with > > fdisk -BI ad6 > > Use > > bsdlabel -R ad6s1 ad6s1.label > > to restore the disklabel. > > If your device name is different from before, you need to edit newfscmds.ad6s1 > to change the ad6 to the new device name wherever it occurs, but you then run > the newfs commands in the file to create your filesystems with the same > parameters (softupdates on/off, etc) as before. > > You now have the basic structure of your previous disk, ready to have the > root, /var/ and /usr dumps restored to make a running system identical to the > destroyed one, with one last step: > > bsdlabel -B ad6s1 > > to put the boot code on the slice. (I haven't tried this bit, so if you're > going to use the boot code from your root partition, which is stored > at /boot/boot, you'll need to check whether you can run bsdlabel -B on a > mounted disk. If you can, the command would be > > bsdlabel -B -b /mnt/boot/boot /dev/ad6s1 > > assuming you mounted /dev/ad6s1a on /mnt). > > If you have a different device name, of course, you also need to edit your > fstab before rebooting. > > Jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 14:04:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BABB106577F for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:04:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF848FC21 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.19] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n44E42Cx033588; Mon, 4 May 2009 10:04:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: Chris Chambers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:04:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <6316666.29861241425117016.JavaMail.myubc2@brahms.my.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <6316666.29861241425117016.JavaMail.myubc2@brahms.my.ubc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905041004.01464.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: Broken Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:04:04 -0000 It is best to include the list in all replies, so that people other than the original responder can offer additional help and so people searching the list archives in the future will have a complete picture. Also, not top-posting (putting replies in the context of the original message) is is preferred on this and many other lists. I've reformatted your message and added comments inline below. On Monday 04 May 2009 04:18:37 am Chris Chambers wrote: > On Sun May 03 John Nielsen wrote: > > On Sunday 03 May 2009 09:26:42 pm Chris Chambers wrote: > > > Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. > > > Then using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the > > > space to my freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot > > > loader can not find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition > > > under FixIt, but mount says "broken argument". > > > > When you say "add the space to my freebsd partition" what exactly did > > you do? > > Sorry, what I meant by "add the space to my freebsd partition" was: > > I created the free space, giving me: > ad0s1 > ad0s2 > Free Space > ad0s3 > > I deleted and recreated ad0s3 in fdisk. Inside the label tool, I added > swap space and mounted the remaining on / (as before). You forgot to say "I made a backup." If you really skipped that step then hopefully you'll remember next time.. Did you write down the original values from fdisk and bsdlabel? Putting them back may be your best bet for recovery. I would avoid using _any_ swap until you have your data back. If your new free space had been _after_ the FreeBSD slice on the disk you may have had better luck. Since you moved the _beginning_ of your slice that changed the relative offsets of everything else which is probably why your filesystem is broken (I am not a UFS expert). What is surprising is that the loader ran at all... unless you used "bsdlabel -B" or similar. If you revert the fdisk and bsdlabel values, save your data and want to try again a safer approach would be to define a fourth slice to occupy the free space (yes it will be out of order but FreeBSD shouldn't care.. not sure about DOS or PartitionMagic). Then just use the slice as additional swap directly (no bsdlabel, just ad0s4). But do make a backup this time. > > What device nodes are listed for your disk from the fixit > > environment? > > Currently, the devices are: > ad0s1 - DOS, type 7 > ad0s2 - DOS, type 7 > ad0s3 > ad0s3a - UFS > ad0s3b - Swap > ad0s3c - ? The "c" partition is the "raw" partition and is always the same size as the underlying device (or should be). I don't know that it's used for much any more, but there are historical reasons it's there. > I would settle for the ability to mount the drive so that I could > retrieve a few files. Try reverting the fdisk and bsdlabel values (see above). JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 14:18:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891B11065670 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542878FC13 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2715143wfg.7 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:organization:user-agent; bh=nHp4L/bzK/kOc0pUBkCSRLcKbUPdZJey2AqZYYOlZ6Y=; b=ufjINkeM2hXX611f7dgKe+0JTS8lT59fLA20Y1lxXXV2kVYwy/IPAf1AiFxBbofkoP AKxBUU6fTP2ni9amW7v6YWiTFuHIMXGN2Nn7Xicfggi3OgWWqzkyjKgdMuJfXpy5m5L/ HBVodnrIElmhp43R8w6lrLetmeGpGCeE9UX4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:organization:user-agent; b=c6M+d0+imNlatUxh5A5wHYBTmi5sDQsl8EVivPykuKXnXdyI8CiWvToipV1oUTZFNs JIrx2E0PS1yLJn+2UqybdPRxx8IlNRF/Gzzzs7YPWzhi2qN4PyF96TRFgVWoimR0BsCM PE73iZD0oXT6J1XABg8ET6G0OXgmswfx0TE3Q= Received: by 10.114.26.18 with SMTP id 18mr4247773waz.159.1241446724980; Mon, 04 May 2009 07:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp-124-121-40-231.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.121.40.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d20sm9939720waa.12.2009.05.04.07.18.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 May 2009 07:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:18:34 +0700 From: Old Crankbuster To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline Organization: (something or other) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Questions about groups. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:18:45 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'. What does that one do? I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, and of course 'wheel'. I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, and need to enable regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth. I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after initial install. Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages to them? Thanks, --=20 Cheers --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn++ToACgkQ5cpRcLTxAv7J7gCfaXt2NctZqkGGWmzU4lvYt40Z HYEAnAjSztHBlDfkCbMGAJX9OfGqc68v =LJO4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 14:30:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2002106564A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from d.mail.ru.ac.za (d.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246898FC0A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=M9NIWo/drV1CxMhSLUitu8aF3FRq2PgLlW7QzZWE5Rgr0ohsvfaQO1cjV8jLcviby/X/Nzfkt02ywnoZbyHe7+Q+uM7a072XifCiTGKHLJ5edpnycaw4cevW/21hJWzv; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:51128) by d.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1M0zC2-0002Q7-43 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2009 16:30:54 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:30:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20090504135914.GB84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090504135914.GB84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: d.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:4) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:30:57 -0000 On Monday 04 May 2009 15:59:14 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:31:16AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > > If you have kept the right information beforehand, you can actually > > restore your dumps onto ``bare metal'' without doing a partial install > > first, and with the same newfs settings for each partition as you > > originally had. You need to use bsdlabel and dumpfs -m and keep the > > output for rebuilding. The rest of this message is the details. > > If you have a specific reason to want your new filesystems' to have > identical superblock info, you can use dumpfs -m, but you don't need > to worry about all that. =A0 Just fdisk, bsdlabel and then let newfs > take its defaults. Which of your filesystems currently has softupdates disabled? You may not=20 care - but the point is that using dumpfs in the way I described will=20 preserve that information (along with all the other tuning options) for=20 people who do care. If you're restoring a complete machine from backup, the less you have to th= ink=20 about, the better. Knowing that my filesystems are going to be restored wit= h=20 whatever tuning options I was previously running with, without my having to= =20 try and remember, gives me peace of mind ahead of time. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 14:50:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A75106564A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@insipidity.co.uk) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEBC8FC18 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@insipidity.co.uk) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so3795710ewy.43 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 07:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.56.7 with SMTP id e7mr6228491eba.19.1241447075320; Mon, 04 May 2009 07:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaun-laptop.local (host81-156-206-21.range81-156.btcentralplus.com [81.156.206.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm10880803eyx.33.2009.05.04.07.24.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 May 2009 07:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:24:33 +0100 From: Shaun Friedle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090223 Thunderbird/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Groups problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:50:37 -0000 Hi, I seem to have a weird problem with groups, it seems like the system doesn't notice that I am in certain groups when it comes to file permissions, and if I run groups or id with no arguments it also has some groups missing from the list, but with my username as an argument it is complete. I've never encountered this before, does anyone know what the problem might be? [shaun@strange] ~ $ ls -lh /tmp/group_test -rw-rw-r-- 1 www mercurial 0B 4 May 14:08 /tmp/group_test [shaun@strange] ~ $ echo test > /tmp/group_test bash: /tmp/group_test: Permission denied [shaun@strange] ~ $ whoami shaun [shaun@strange] ~ $ grep shaun /etc/group wheel:*:0:root,shaun www:*:80:shaun shaun:*:1002: svn:*:1004:svn,shaun mercurial:*:1006:shaun,www [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups shaun wheel svn [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups shaun shaun wheel www svn mercurial [shaun@strange] ~ $ id uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun) groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),1004(svn) [shaun@strange] ~ $ id shaun uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun) groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),80(www),1004(svn),1006(mercurial) -- Thanks, Shaun Friedle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 14:59:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE25410656E3 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6404B8FC13 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from localhost (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC5A9E; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:59:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id XkzGzNckJGFf; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (87-204-241-35.ip.netia.com.pl [87.204.241.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9EC5E26; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:59:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: Shaun Friedle Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:59:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.29-ARCH; KDE/4.2.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200905041659.06818.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Groups problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:59:17 -0000 Monday 04 May 2009 16:24:33 Shaun Friedle napisa=B3(a): > Hi, > I seem to have a weird problem with groups, it seems like the system > doesn't notice that I am in certain groups when it comes to file > permissions, and if I run groups or id with no arguments it also has > some groups missing from the list, but with my username as an argument > it is complete. I've never encountered this before, does anyone know > what the problem might be? > > [shaun@strange] ~ $ ls -lh /tmp/group_test > -rw-rw-r-- 1 www mercurial 0B 4 May 14:08 /tmp/group_test > [shaun@strange] ~ $ echo test > /tmp/group_test > bash: /tmp/group_test: Permission denied > [shaun@strange] ~ $ whoami > shaun > [shaun@strange] ~ $ grep shaun /etc/group > wheel:*:0:root,shaun > www:*:80:shaun > shaun:*:1002: > svn:*:1004:svn,shaun > mercurial:*:1006:shaun,www > [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups > shaun wheel svn > [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups shaun > shaun wheel www svn mercurial > [shaun@strange] ~ $ id > uid=3D1002(shaun) gid=3D1002(shaun) groups=3D1002(shaun),0(wheel),1004(sv= n) > [shaun@strange] ~ $ id shaun > uid=3D1002(shaun) gid=3D1002(shaun) > groups=3D1002(shaun),0(wheel),80(www),1004(svn),1006(mercurial) Have you done relogin on this account? =2D-=20 Pozdrawiam, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 15:01:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F041065677 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from mx.inode.at (mx06.lb01.inode.at [62.99.145.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6108FC14 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from [84.119.8.155] (port=13439 helo=fz-nbook.local) by smartmx-06.inode.at with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M0zfD-0004T7-6Q; Mon, 04 May 2009 17:01:03 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:00:49 +0200 From: Armin Pirkovitsch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090504165342inode@frozen-zone.org> References: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: Shaun Friedle Subject: Re: Groups problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Armin Pirkovitsch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:01:06 -0000 Have you relogged in after adding the user to the group file? (su -l should do the trick as well if you can't log out/relog in for some reason) Otherwise you'll get exactly the behaviour you described below. Armin On Mon 04 May 2009, Shaun Friedle wrote: > Hi, > I seem to have a weird problem with groups, it seems like the system > doesn't notice that I am in certain groups when it comes to file > permissions, and if I run groups or id with no arguments it also has > some groups missing from the list, but with my username as an argument > it is complete. I've never encountered this before, does anyone know > what the problem might be? > > [shaun@strange] ~ $ ls -lh /tmp/group_test > -rw-rw-r-- 1 www mercurial 0B 4 May 14:08 /tmp/group_test > [shaun@strange] ~ $ echo test > /tmp/group_test > bash: /tmp/group_test: Permission denied > [shaun@strange] ~ $ whoami > shaun > [shaun@strange] ~ $ grep shaun /etc/group > wheel:*:0:root,shaun > www:*:80:shaun > shaun:*:1002: > svn:*:1004:svn,shaun > mercurial:*:1006:shaun,www > [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups > shaun wheel svn > [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups shaun > shaun wheel www svn mercurial > [shaun@strange] ~ $ id > uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun) groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),1004(svn) > [shaun@strange] ~ $ id shaun > uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun) > groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),80(www),1004(svn),1006(mercurial) -- Armin Pirkovitsch a.pirko@inode.at From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 15:11:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DFD10656B5 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143A48FC1A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n44FBI8P012195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 10:11:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n44FBIoG036429 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 10:11:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n44FBGxr036424; Mon, 4 May 2009 10:11:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:11:16 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Nathan Lay Message-ID: <20090504151116.GA3371@dan.emsphone.com> References: <49FB5CDF.80100@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49FB5CDF.80100@comcast.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 04 May 2009 10:11:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install -s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:11:22 -0000 In the last episode (May 01), Nathan Lay said: > Should install -s really fail if strip fails? I noticed cross-binutils > strips everything it installs...in my case, one of the utilities it tries > to strip is a script and install -s obnoxiously fails. I set DONTSTRIP to > get around this problem. > > For a point of reference, I'm running a recent 7-STABLE. It's best that if strip fails, install fails. strip could unlink the original file but fail for some reason to rename the temp file to the original name. Your problem could be a bug in the cross-binutils Makefile; scripts shouldn't be installed with "install -s". BSD-style Makefiles use PROG= and SCRIPTS= definitions, and automake-generated Makefiles use foo_PROGRAMS= and foo_SCRIPTS= to install executable binaries vs scripts. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 15:46:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127B7106566B for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ryan.vanEerdewijk@sdimediagroup.com) Received: from VA3EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (va3ehsobe003.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BC58FC1E for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ryan.vanEerdewijk@sdimediagroup.com) Received: from mail92-va3-R.bigfish.com (10.7.14.249) by VA3EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (10.7.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.340.0; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:31:14 +0000 Received: from mail92-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail92-va3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3985C1AD8116 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:31:14 +0000 (UTC) X-BigFish: VS-7(zz827Pzz1202hz31izz2dh6bh61h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 Received: by mail92-va3 (MessageSwitch) id 1241451071492181_15770; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:31:11 +0000 (UCT) Received: from canadapost.sdimediagroup.com (canadapost.sdimediagroup.com [206.191.69.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail92-va3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8E71D18046 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from postam.sdimediagroup.com (sm-am-ex-01.am.sdimediagroup.com [10.50.50.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by canadapost.sdimediagroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C3ABB80D for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 11:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com ([10.50.50.50]) by SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com ([10.50.50.50]) with mapi; Mon, 4 May 2009 11:31:10 -0400 From: Ryan van Eerdewijk To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:31:09 -0400 Thread-Topic: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password Thread-Index: AcnMzVlrYAbxuG2SQMG/HD9AApz89w== Message-ID: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E06@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ryan van Eerdewijk Subject: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:46:20 -0000 Hi, I have a strange issue. If I type: mount_smbfs //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here ... I will be prompted for theuser's password, I type it, and the share wil= l mount fine. But I want this share to mount automatically at bootup. I hav= en't been able to get it to work through /etc/fstab or through an sh script= . In fact typing: mount_smbfs -N //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here gives me the following error: mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr =3D Authentication error I have the following in my /etc/nsmb.conf file: [theserver] workgroup=3DMYWORKGROUP addr=3D10.10.10.10 [theserver:theuser] password=3D$$1571crypto'dpassword I get the feeling that when mounting the smbfs share, it isn't even checkin= g the nsmb.conf file. I've also tried a plain text password, and also inclu= ding the same information in a /root/.nsmbrc file. I'm running out of ideas. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Ryan V. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 15:59:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76571065672 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:59:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com (mail.geekdelivery.com [206.75.152.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA698FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:59:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.geekdelivery.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC6B1A9998 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:59:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wserver.geekdelivery.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Mho4AcsaGEv for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:59:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dev.localnet (s206-75-152-198.ab.hsia.telus.net [206.75.152.198]) by mail.geekdelivery.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F2C921A9997 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:59:14 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:59:13 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.27-11-generic; KDE/4.2.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E06@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com> In-Reply-To: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E06@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905040959.13354.ray@stilltech.net> Subject: Re: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:59:18 -0000 On May 4, 2009 09:31:09 am Ryan van Eerdewijk wrote: > Hi, > > I have a strange issue. If I type: > > mount_smbfs //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here > > ... I will be prompted for theuser's password, I type it, and the share > will mount fine. But I want this share to mount automatically at bootup. I > haven't been able to get it to work through /etc/fstab or through an sh > script. In fact typing: > > mount_smbfs -N //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here > > gives me the following error: > > mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error > > I have the following in my /etc/nsmb.conf file: > > [theserver] > workgroup=MYWORKGROUP > addr=10.10.10.10 > > [theserver:theuser] > password=$$1571crypto'dpassword > > I get the feeling that when mounting the smbfs share, it isn't even > checking the nsmb.conf file. I've also tried a plain text password, and > also including the same information in a /root/.nsmbrc file. > > I'm running out of ideas. Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks > > Ryan V. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi Ryan, What You have is very similar to what I use, except I don't use the -N Flag on mount_smbfs. Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 16:02:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1112F106564A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tamarlea@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7536A8FC19 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tamarlea@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so3862448ewy.43 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 09:02:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=TWBx9pUzEQt/riiqlxdZlrboPeq1WUHO6ZeV+TlFw7w=; b=PX7f/NIayQzxRyblUaHd9y7pWezs8NBDde8BmKaMg15KLJJCb2cMaWMgB9k7GxwtBY ZM94NLPEUP+1lkjz0WKqkEZCRaYoL2X6mxpKaqmFke6DqHabnkqV/HXbk9BtQAQhAIE4 oNJJ8gcNzhMOM2R63ixo3Xl3r/VDzkyqJpHt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NVte1grOs1UhwIB/azULrwBGLWy9VeKwJmXwoJqp4nLg3tVeDBy1VVZq2oKuNAOErx 9F52/zbqkmyn/ZRERYtdh740XPuOhL/l+DqXQ9KFF5LzNDkq2fUvM9i9hzWSaUCCTjjB tCHLBRTKWJm5C5lKHdH3fJWiEQDdpi+ztMzXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.18.16 with SMTP id v16mr2730080wfi.142.1241451223708; Mon, 04 May 2009 08:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com> From: Tamar Lea To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: per protocol bandwidth filters for firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 16:02:57 -0000 Hello all, I have inherited the job of maintaining a FreeBSD firewall that sits behind an ADSL line that connects 128 clients to the internet. I have not used FreeBSD before but have some linux experience. The connections must be always on though I am allowed to reboot if absolutely necessary. It is using ipfilter and ipnat. There have been issues with clients taking up too much bandwidth, so after several hours of careful testing I managed to redirect all traffic on port 80 to a squid service using ipnat. This uses delay pools to limit the max speed per user. However I would also like to limit the max speed per user for streaming traffic on port 1935. Would this be possible with the current setup and what programs or config would be able to do the job? Thanks, Tamar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 16:45:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA23106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38D48FC17 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n44Gj8Zd013302; Mon, 4 May 2009 17:45:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n44Gj8Zd013302 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1241455510; bh=Zyk7c6npp/KnUNlnwSc6kPNp2MvH5q0IIVSOvNgYayE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49FF1B8A.3040900@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2004=20May=202009=2017:44:58=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Tamar=20Lea=20|CC:=20freebsd- questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20per=20protocol=20bandwidth= 20filters=20for=20firewall|References:=20<1ab57dc80905040833q1573f 264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<1ab57dc809050 40833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version :=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha2 56=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bo undary=3D"------------enigFBE2095A94CF337ABE845F99"; b=dTYpcEDHyFB1J/SPdBVG8joyI69A+34RYY+V0giwrYyCCZy/Xw1MYK1G+GdF1/lTm JO2L13uquxAc2qtqiD2E5n2mZY0hHOX1piLI7+e/WsdXF0pVhHw67SNxOKuwQWFn1x C6oY97BZc2Kk7/ruvhDX9H1VxLcTxFbpH2pnkNM8= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49FF1B8A.3040900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 17:44:58 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tamar Lea References: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFBE2095A94CF337ABE845F99" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: per protocol bandwidth filters for firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 16:45:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFBE2095A94CF337ABE845F99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tamar Lea wrote: > Hello all, > I have inherited the job of maintaining a FreeBSD firewall that sits be= hind > an ADSL line that connects 128 clients to the internet. I have not used= > FreeBSD before but have some linux experience. The connections must be > always on though I am allowed to reboot if absolutely necessary. It is = using > ipfilter and ipnat. There have been issues with clients taking up too m= uch > bandwidth, so after several hours of careful testing I managed to redir= ect > all traffic on port 80 to a squid service using ipnat. This uses delay = pools > to limit the max speed per user. However I would also like to limit the= max > speed per user for streaming traffic on port 1935. Would this be possib= le > with the current setup and what programs or config would be able to do = the Hmmm... out of the three possible choices for firewall implementations un= der FreeBSD you have ended up with probably the least capable one. ipfilter'= s=20 unique selling point is that it is available on a large number of differe= nt systems. In this case I don't think that really counts for much. The other two alternatives -- together with their associated QoS / traffi= c shaping technologies are: ipfw + dummynet This is a FreeBSD specific firewall implementation. It's a first match wins type ruleset which provides all the usual functionality: NAT, stateful filtering etc. It can be a bit tricky to manage on a live system as remote updates to the ruleset have an unfortunate tendency to lock you out of the system. pf + altq This is the new and shiny firewall system ported from OpenBSD.=20 It's a last match wins type ruleset, modified by 'quick' (immediatel= y applied) rules (similar to ipf), so more flexible than ipfw. The configuration file is also a lot more readable than ipfw IMHO. You = will need to build a custom kernel to make use of ALTQ functionality as f= or some reason that cannot be provided by a loadable kernel module like= the rest of pf(4). This would be my personal preference for solving the= problem you describe. Either of these two should serve you well and allow you to do the require= d traffic shaping. Note: while it is technically possible to run more than= one of the three firewall packages at once; that way madness lies, partic= ularly for fledgeling administrators. It might be worth it for a short time if = you really, absolutely, no alternative, have to do a zero-downtime cut-over, = but the risks of something going wrong are significant. A quick restart with= new software is hardly any more intrusive and a lot safer. 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Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 16:49:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F250106567E for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027638FC27 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so3800423bwz.43 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 09:49:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3ROqolw+tR8ymhCKKHudLFthhs5ZBcQEF5liBAQ1J3E=; b=M4ryZODPmgI+JH3+oakgmKxgryvX84LNMfHVfofjGbBXdeEMA/uZcQMafcqSNMsS6L WlzvuMWGDUZxizONxqhzgv89DDqKFvo4lBR4lbd74XNC3mrWZMcwvX7fuz5C8giJlc56 alKXzBeHCMcMdoX2VRrHJozn+zyU+SgMUvPKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Z0KI+2eLWBw6paZO/duPrU6SBZbRZma7thVxEAKx6xVo1GAF8fNaXz8Vdoa4hVw/o4 +JXjXYD4xK63OWPbH+E4I2hJaorpYAk41W7zrMWf1EnAe5DJg2x5PgnbX9bZFofL70M6 EVqRRO01at4ehEIuw8MagmrMXFyBz2Zn1J+kA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.117.1 with SMTP id o1mr2368545faq.53.1241455753270; Mon, 04 May 2009 09:49:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:49:13 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400905040949p7351a397s199b538961647ab3@mail.gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?T2RoaWFtYm8gIOODr+OCt+ODs+ODiOODsw==?= To: Tamar Lea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: per protocol bandwidth filters for firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 16:49:16 -0000 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Tamar Lea wrote: > Hello all, > I have inherited the job of maintaining a FreeBSD firewall that sits behind > an ADSL line that connects 128 clients to the internet. I have not used > FreeBSD before but have some linux experience. The connections must be > always on though I am allowed to reboot if absolutely necessary. It is > using > ipfilter and ipnat. There have been issues with clients taking up too much > bandwidth, so after several hours of careful testing I managed to redirect > all traffic on port 80 to a squid service using ipnat. This uses delay > pools > to limit the max speed per user. However I would also like to limit the max > speed per user for streaming traffic on port 1935. Would this be possible > with the current setup and what programs or config would be able to do the > job? If you consider PF+ALTQ, you will be able to do what IPFilter/IPNAT is doing now and much more - just like you desire. You will also find it quite easy to convert the current firewall/nat rules into PF syntax. Best of luck! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 18:09:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA1F10656C0 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6A98FC14 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n8so82839gve.39 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 11:09:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=MMJ7I3vBhKnoFxTuUvtlTES/ZCjCZSI62w1OM5hkuNo=; b=S7YJffzQPVT6kxqdkU2ABpDSwV2Dkc+GYzIo5UdrZFM0UHd2TID2IB0NVWZ+G9I/OW zq41jaELGU8gs5Wz51X4VWB4Y10VPNAuFEjlsQ1JvnSPJ12SwdCFO061iJpxvGZz9wdx WLaPDurhjvFr2G9Yn3KzP2i0UbLvCpJ81j0p0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=bpL0FuDeemh6jlQNU+6z0BpcvU8BaTxKhWkpDBlCgbxTaAvgtCVeh7B10C4yypIeag AmKAYT2xZqLT3zOxWYYK7vZHp4JZEaVubKqPWmk/vTsMupL46LzAuU7WXl1ECeFLvF3v bA1UzTiNVPkhYge1txpsLA/catGxP6KPhdrpU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.98.201 with SMTP id r9mr9685063vcn.78.1241460587202; Mon, 04 May 2009 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200905040959.13354.ray@stilltech.net> References: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E06@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com> <200905040959.13354.ray@stilltech.net> From: Tim Judd Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:09:32 -0600 Message-ID: To: Ray Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:09:49 -0000 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Ray wrote: > On May 4, 2009 09:31:09 am Ryan van Eerdewijk wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a strange issue. If I type: > > > > mount_smbfs //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here > > > > ... I will be prompted for theuser's password, I type it, and the share > > will mount fine. But I want this share to mount automatically at bootup. > I > > haven't been able to get it to work through /etc/fstab or through an sh > > script. In fact typing: > > > > mount_smbfs -N //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here > > > > gives me the following error: > > > > mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error > > > > I have the following in my /etc/nsmb.conf file: > > > > [theserver] > > workgroup=MYWORKGROUP > > addr=10.10.10.10 > > > > [theserver:theuser] > > password=$$1571crypto'dpassword > > > > I get the feeling that when mounting the smbfs share, it isn't even > > checking the nsmb.conf file. I've also tried a plain text password, and > > also including the same information in a /root/.nsmbrc file. > > > > I'm running out of ideas. Any help is appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > Ryan V. > > Hi Ryan, > What You have is very similar to what I use, except I don't use the -N > Flag > on mount_smbfs. > Ray > A friend recently had this problem and it was due to capitalization. IIRC, the username in the nsmb.conf file needs to be in all caps, whereas the username that is given to the server is actually lowercase, or vice versa. It was found by a google search and just due to caps alone. Try toggling the caps, I know, odd fix, but it worked for my friend --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 18:32:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04C6106564A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@lebanon.atchurch.org) Received: from lebanon.atchurch.org (h69-129-174-18.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.174.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BC98FC14 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@lebanon.atchurch.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lebanon.atchurch.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7185121FA; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:16:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atchurch.org Received: from lebanon.atchurch.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lebanon.atchurch.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q3ZW0PSIgdA3; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:16:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: by lebanon.atchurch.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B2F1321F8; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:16:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:16:30 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: Jonathan McKeown Message-ID: <20090504181629.GC96593@polands.org> References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20090504135914.GB84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200905041630.53832.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905041630.53832.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:32:23 -0000 On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 04:30:53PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Monday 04 May 2009 15:59:14 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:31:16AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > > > > If you have kept the right information beforehand, you can > > > actually restore your dumps onto ``bare metal'' without doing a > > > partial install first, and with the same newfs settings for each > > > partition as you originally had. You need to use bsdlabel and > > > dumpfs -m and keep the output for rebuilding. The rest of this > > > message is the details. > > > > If you have a specific reason to want your new filesystems' to have > > identical superblock info, you can use dumpfs -m, but you don't need > > to worry about all that. ? Just fdisk, bsdlabel and then let newfs > > take its defaults. > > Which of your filesystems currently has softupdates disabled? You may > not care - but the point is that using dumpfs in the way I described > will preserve that information (along with all the other tuning > options) for people who do care. > > If you're restoring a complete machine from backup, the less you have > to think about, the better. Knowing that my filesystems are going to > be restored with whatever tuning options I was previously running > with, without my having to try and remember, gives me peace of mind > ahead of time. > Excellent discussion. Along the lines of "the less you have to think about", is there a technique for restoring geom meta-data on bare metal? Say you have a system built upon gmirror and gjournal. One must manually create the mirror and journal before restoring from dump. But the vital geom meta-data describing your mirror/journal is on the dump. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 18:38:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342D7106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ryan.vanEerdewijk@sdimediagroup.com) Received: from IE1EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (outbound-dub.frontbridge.com [213.199.154.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03B28FC13 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ryan.vanEerdewijk@sdimediagroup.com) Received: from mail34-dub-R.bigfish.com (10.5.252.3) by IE1EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (10.5.252.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.340.0; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:23:04 +0000 Received: from mail34-dub (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail34-dub-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2177AA50313 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:23:04 +0000 (UTC) X-BigFish: VS-1(zz1de5Jzz1202hz31izz2dh6bh62h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 1:0 Received: by mail34-dub (MessageSwitch) id 1241461383596741_22455; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:23:03 +0000 (UCT) Received: from canadapost.sdimediagroup.com (canadapost.sdimediagroup.com [206.191.69.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail34-dub.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBD1198805E for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from postam.sdimediagroup.com (sm-am-ex-01.am.sdimediagroup.com [10.50.50.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by canadapost.sdimediagroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D6E5B80D for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com ([10.50.50.50]) by SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com ([10.50.50.50]) with mapi; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:23:00 -0400 From: Ryan van Eerdewijk To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:23:00 -0400 Thread-Topic: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password Thread-Index: AcnM5VsbTwWVGyyJQO+6LGD6qSFC8w== Message-ID: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E0C@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:38:08 -0000 You, sir, are a genius. This solved it. Much thanks, Ryan V. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 18:39:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DAF1065695 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9CE8FC15 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so7832023qyk.3 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 11:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WCLWDi7l7+wCAfRhgv2gnpXdDM9bJB/5RQPccEJ8OPk=; b=far22YLcHZvPtMwzTqJVoVLFy5QoyvTeglbrgVHrpqUPxwwNfvPYLqdrPkfM4PVJL1 0L+DpccSBPlkGhpDUFn/XjJWxIx0cH7d2dAqtnujpBjwtok9gqrhvrUHa1BN/W5ptNAI NTfHu9Cx6tEoGJCVhHqh+DuwnhjkBOxRyTMr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=upMwWH9BjYYKogWqxSqrOPiKg4NaBhz7ViZFDwiPVFZGrbw5aXz7TIOBEEjX1jK5Xf BpHbCoOfg3oJLO8nNJWqnQPCre/9zkJxhL4RYPA5xOhyB2xgIq0uVoBEEcSVDeOBcO3m +2i5sAI0aLxHkQg25aJrad6OnxTyS+WMf3x1U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.35.13 with SMTP id n13mr672738ibd.24.1241462374574; Mon, 04 May 2009 11:39:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net> References: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:39:34 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, crankbuster@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Questions about groups. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:39:36 -0000 2009/5/4 Old Crankbuster : > > Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular > user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'. > > What does that one do? Members of "operator" can run /sbin/shutdown among other things. find / -group operator can answer better than I ever could. > > I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, and of > course 'wheel'. > > I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, and need to enable > regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and > network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth. > > I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after > initial install. > > Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages > to them? > Various methods apply (for instance /dev/dspN.n is world writable), man 5 devfs.conf is a good start for some of that. Best of luck. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 18:41:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4254A106572F for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C5E8FC16 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 18:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F813D2B7; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:41:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n44IfKZc001426; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:41:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:41:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ruben de Groot Message-Id: <20090504204120.31a34cc8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org> References: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca> <20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost+found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:41:29 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2009 11:08:04 +0200, Ruben de Groot wrote: > Probably because the # is interpreted as comment. I can reproduce this > in a bourne shell; not in (t)csh. Ah, thank you. According to the prompt, it didn't look like csh in the first place, but not like plain sh, too. Customized bash prompts usually include brackets 'n stuff. Because I'm using csh mostly, I didn't see the problem that "cd #something" == "cd" (which of course leads to $HOME). An attempt to "rm #12345" in sh / bash should lead to an error message (for incomplete rm command). It's safe to use the Midnight Commander to cd into and rm #something files and directories. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 19:02:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48289106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 19:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085DF8FC1C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 19:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5CE3D3F9; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n44J2TxZ001502; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:02:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:02:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Old Crankbuster Message-Id: <20090504210229.c10231a2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net> References: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about groups. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:02:36 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2009 21:18:34 +0700, Old Crankbuster wrote: > > Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular > user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'. > > What does that one do? The operator groupt allows its users to perform some operator tasks, without needing them to be in the wheel group. It's like a "limited root permissions" group. You'll find some programs that are +x for this group (for example /sbin/shutdown). > I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, [...] I've often seen that FreeBSD defaults to user name = group name for the adduser script, but I usually use the staff group, as you do. Further fine grained parameters for user and group preferences can be set in an environment where you have more than one user. > [...] and of > course 'wheel'. Why "of course"? :-) > I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, [...] Typical single user setting. > [...] and need to enable > regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and > network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth. There are several groups that you can add your user to, but because you're already in wheel, you don't have to (such as the "dialer" group for ppp). > I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after > initial install. No, they seem to be "Linuxisms". :-) > Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages > to them? No. What should happen then? How should that work? :-) FreeBSD manages the things you're requiring through two important files: /etc/devfs.conf (and /etc/devfs.rules) and /etc/devd.conf. The devfs files control the virtual device file system. It allows you to have permissions on a per-device file basis. These files are those that are present from system startup on. The devd file controls how the system should react if it detects new devices while it's already running. See the manpages for these files. Yes, they do exist. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 19:12:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7933A106566B for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 19:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@lebanon.atchurch.org) Received: from lebanon.atchurch.org (h69-129-174-18.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.174.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443E38FC1A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 19:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@lebanon.atchurch.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lebanon.atchurch.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22F521FA for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:53:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atchurch.org Received: from lebanon.atchurch.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lebanon.atchurch.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jxut5oseMTb7 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:53:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by lebanon.atchurch.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3AD2721F8; Mon, 4 May 2009 13:53:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:53:26 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090504185324.GA97148@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: To file a PR, or not to file a PR. That is the question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:12:22 -0000 Hello, A server running 7.1-RELEASE(i386) recently starting deadlocking when multiple UFS2 snaphosts are being manipulated (via sysutil/freebsd-snapshot). Upon searching the PR database, I found a problem repart that appears similar (kern/94769) but with my level of expertise, I'm not certain. My question, should I go ahead a file a PR, in the hope that more visability of the issue is better, and therefore more likely to receive attention? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 19:19:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0BA1065673 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 19:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCDC8FC1E for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 19:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 60925EBC0A; Mon, 4 May 2009 15:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:19:10 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Doug Poland Message-Id: <20090504151910.3ef7b803.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20090504185324.GA97148@polands.org> References: <20090504185324.GA97148@polands.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To file a PR, or not to file a PR. That is the question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:19:12 -0000 In response to Doug Poland : > Hello, > > A server running 7.1-RELEASE(i386) recently starting deadlocking when > multiple UFS2 snaphosts are being manipulated (via sysutil/freebsd-snapshot). > > Upon searching the PR database, I found a problem repart that appears > similar (kern/94769) but with my level of expertise, I'm not certain. > My question, should I go ahead a file a PR, in the hope that more > visability of the issue is better, and therefore more likely to receive > attention? You'll probably get more mileage by adding details of your problem to the existing PR. The person who's handling it will know how closely the issues are related. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 19:58:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A950106568E for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 19:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0D98FC19 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 19:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6FF50936 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:46:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2233F50911 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:46:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:46:42 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:58:52 -0000 In order to speed up my LAN backups a little bit, I would like to replace my old 10/100 nic with a 10/100/1000 one. Should be placed in an ancient Dell of 5 years old. Can someone pls advise on the type nic I should buy (not necessarily a Dell brand)? thanks, Jos Chrispijn -- No one is listening until you make a mistake... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 20:18:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077231065670 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (static-64-61-120-78.isp.broadviewnet.net [64.61.120.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71638FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:02:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E435D@www.fcimail.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 In-Reply-To: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: NIC Thread-Index: AcnM8s/icmWu9onEScuVOX0DPtsOiAAAFt2w References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Jos Chrispijn" , "FreeBSD Questions" Cc: Subject: RE: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:18:37 -0000 I don't think dell has their own brand of NIC's in my experience intel = has always great quality and support (drivers) for their nic cards -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jos Chrispijn Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:47 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: NIC In order to speed up my LAN backups a little bit, I would like to=20 replace my old 10/100 nic with a 10/100/1000 one. Should be placed in an ancient Dell of 5 years old. Can someone pls=20 advise on the type nic I should buy (not necessarily a Dell brand)? thanks, Jos Chrispijn --=20 No one is listening until you make a mistake... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 20:23:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC051065670 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478B18FC18 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n44KNKV7072007; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:23:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n44KNKbm072004; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:23:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:23:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jos Chrispijn In-Reply-To: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> Message-ID: References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 May 2009 14:23:20 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:23:21 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > In order to speed up my LAN backups a little bit, I would like to replace my > old 10/100 nic with a 10/100/1000 one. > Should be placed in an ancient Dell of 5 years old. Can someone pls advise on > the type nic I should buy (not necessarily a Dell brand)? The Intel cards are well regarded. A Pro/1000 (PWLA8391GT) works well here. Many other brands of gigabit cards are based on Realtek chipsets, which are not as well regarded. The Realtek gigabit built into the MSI P45 Neo-3 FR motherboard seems to work fine. Probably everyone else will point this out also, but replacing the card alone won't give you gigabit; you also need a switch and maybe new wiring. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 20:31:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A981065670 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F0D8FC1A for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 May 2009 16:31:18 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KVI70117; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 May 2009 16:31:17 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18943.20628.234092.793988@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:31:16 -0400 To: "Jean-Paul Natola" In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E435D@www.fcimail.org> References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E435D@www.fcimail.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Jos Chrispijn , FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:31:19 -0000 Jean-Paul Natola writes: > I don't think dell has their own brand of NIC's in my experience > intel has always great quality and support (drivers) for their > nic cards Conversely, cards based on RealTek chips have a reputation of being both inexpensive /and/ cheap. (This may or may not be true of the wireless cards.) The drivers for the Intel cards are written by Intel; I've got a dual-port Pro/1000 GT, and the thing is a _rock_. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 21:00:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330EF106566B for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF12A8FC0C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 22473 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 2009 21:00:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 4 May 2009 21:00:25 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 0E77F28434; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:00:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:00:22 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20090504210022.GA83256@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E435D@www.fcimail.org> <18943.20628.234092.793988@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18943.20628.234092.793988@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:00:27 -0000 On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 04:31:16PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > Conversely, cards based on RealTek chips have a reputation of > being both inexpensive /and/ cheap. (This may or may not be true of > the wireless cards.) The first generation of RealTek chips were little more than a shift register and deserved a poor reputation for requiring a lot of CPU resources. That got RT into market share and now have satisfactory product. > The drivers for the Intel cards are written by Intel; I've got > a dual-port Pro/1000 GT, and the thing is a _rock_. Ditto. Intel NICs are exceptionally well supported. If one must run Windows, an Intel NIC and Intel driver provide a lot of features which are otherwise missing. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 21:24:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E902106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.76.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0DE8FC08 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiQGABv6/knTGpPi/2dsb2JhbACBUM0+g30F X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,293,1238940000"; d="scan'208";a="184210414" Received: from 226.b.002.gsf.iprimus.net.au (HELO enterprise.blackthorn.nu) ([211.26.147.226]) by smtp06.syd.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 05 May 2009 07:24:49 +1000 Message-ID: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 07:25:47 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090410) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FOR MARK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:24:52 -0000 After finally managing to get some encoding options from this list everything went smoothley untill it got to the burning part .. below is the error i got.... enterprise# ls dvd.iso enterprise# growisofs -dvd-video -Z /dev/cd1 dvd.iso WARNING: /dev/cd1 already carries isofs! About to execute 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvd.iso | builtin_dd of=/dev/pass1 obs=32k seek=0' mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. :-( write failed: Input/output error enterprise# growisofs -dvd-video -Z /dev/cd0 dvd.iso Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvd.iso | builtin_dd of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k seek=0' mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. :-( write failed: Input/output error What am i missing//not doing correctly ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 21:44:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F5A1065670 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@wcubed.net) Received: from mail.datausa.com (mail.datausa.com [216.150.220.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E959F8FC12 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 21:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@wcubed.net) Received: (qmail 81184 invoked by uid 89); 4 May 2009 15:16:59 -0600 Received: from c-76-25-231-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net (HELO ?10.0.1.137?) (76.25.231.251) by mail.datausa.com with SMTP; 4 May 2009 15:16:59 -0600 Message-ID: <49FF5B63.40302@wcubed.net> Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:17:23 -0600 From: Brad Waite User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081209 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.19 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Broken drive geometry / partitions on 7.2 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:44:19 -0000 Hi all, I was trying to install 7.2 RELEASE on top of a previous 6.4 RELEASE I'd set up (but not deployed). The server has a 40MB Intel service partition and the rest of the drive for FreeBSD. Here's what greeted me when doing the fdisk from the install CD: Disk name: da0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 2209 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 35487585 sectors (17327MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 64197 64259 da0as1 4 Compaq Diagnostic 18 64260 3013499 3077758 - 12 unused 0 3077758 64197 3141955 da0cs1 4 Compaq Diagnostic 18 3141956 32345629 354875584 - 12 unused 0 It says there's 2 service partition slices (type 18) and no FreeBSD slice. Remember, I had successfully installed 6.4 on this drive and was able to boot into both the service partition and FreeBSD. I ended up deleting all the partitions and recreating them by hand. I first created the service partition slice with a size of 80262 (which is what /sbin/fdisk under 6.4 reported), and the FBSD slice with a size of 35407260 (the remaining space). After doing that, I was able to install 7.2 just fine and boot into it. I was also able to boot into the Intel service partition, since I hadn't blown over any of the original slice. However, this is what I get from /usr/sbin/sysinstall's fdisk now: Disk name: da0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 2209 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 35487585 sectors (17327MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 64197 64259 da0s1 4 Compaq Diagnostic 18 64260 35423325 35487584 da0s2 8 freebsd 165 And /sbin/fdisk reports the same: ******* Working on device /dev/da0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=2209 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=2209 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 18 (0x12),(Compaq diagnostics) start 63, size 64197 (31 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 3/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 64260, size 35423325 (17296 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 4/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 Notice that I have only 2 slices, but the service partition slice is 64194 blocks instead of the 80262. On top of this, when I boot from the 7.2 install CD again, fdisk shows the same screwed-up setup with 2 Compaq Diag slices with no FBSD slice. What on earth is happening? Is my drive geometry hosed? Is this some sort of weird LBA issue? I'm nervous about configuring and deploying this machine acting as it is. I also have an identical machine that's reporting the same thing. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 4 23:31:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907DA106566C for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 23:31:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F418FC15 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 23:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4063CFA1; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:31:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n44NVLPw001864; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:31:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 01:31:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Liddell Message-Id: <20090505013121.9d051365.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com> References: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FOR MARK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 23:31:30 -0000 On Tue, 05 May 2009 07:25:47 +1000, Warren Liddell wrote: > After finally managing to get some encoding options from this list > everything went smoothley untill it got to the burning part .. below is > the error i got.... > > enterprise# ls > dvd.iso > enterprise# growisofs -dvd-video -Z /dev/cd1 dvd.iso Hmmm... my growisofs doesn't have -dvd-video (only -dvd-compat), so google("geowisofs -dvd-compat"); and I found: The -dvd-video option will be passed down to mkisofs(8) and will instruct it to create a DVD-Video file system layout. Beside this, the -dvd-video option implies -dvd-compat growisofs(1) option. Source: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html 18.7.4 It seems that -dvd-video has to be given if you've NOT mastered an ISO file already, read: when you work with the source files. > WARNING: /dev/cd1 already carries isofs! Not a blank media? > About to execute 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvd.iso | builtin_dd of=/dev/pass1 > obs=32k seek=0' > mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. > :-( write failed: Input/output error The mkisofs tools seems to require the source files for the ISO to be created, it cannot create a video DVD ISO file from a video DVD ISO file. > What am i missing//not doing correctly ? Missing: Reading the handbook. Not doing correctly: Command line options. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 00:28:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1CC1065672 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 00:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.30.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CFE8FC19 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 00:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiQGAKMl/0nTGpPi/2dsb2JhbACBUM0Wg30F X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,294,1238940000"; d="scan'208";a="185994955" Received: from 226.b.002.gsf.iprimus.net.au (HELO enterprise.blackthorn.nu) ([211.26.147.226]) by smtp05.syd.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 05 May 2009 10:28:30 +1000 Message-ID: <49FF8868.6010708@maydias.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:29:28 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090410) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com> <20090505013121.9d051365.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090505013121.9d051365.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FOR MARK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 00:28:57 -0000 What am i missing//not doing correctly ? > > Missing: Reading the handbook. > Not doing correctly: Command line options. > :-) > I'll skip a lot of steps then an just use the standard growisofs for img files since DVStyler creates the DVD Video IMG once you've imported the mpeg file / / From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 00:42:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80B7106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 00:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2684C8FC0C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 00:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4087197bwz.43 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 17:42:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:organization:user-agent; bh=QoN2EORT3ZFUX/gjTqYrF5KfumJsZYeW1E7v2cHdR2E=; b=oo28QtDEqHxoBl73TPK7cqCTH+44wrhjnVtnKT15djTZRwSP8qSWTGSlK7H71TLrjV bLQasMcQjbGEyMBLMld6OAYERXV7QnU812Ztf+u7N9HmdWL91E57DCifp5Bf4mK8wDqH JvoxvhQsatm8hTi5G4iDc6dsgC65LyiaxBoTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :organization:user-agent; b=H/afmwbvV3RuqtHrGhlpGOkJGrfYBttMlyEqAcR13BPQHmw+I1A5cGhLN8Nn/Bdo/n 4qVGFqL5cK5/vkc+49VY5VNX9NfCrqe4RZLjXjsCHpG0npSxkYgDJQVTQiT+RpD/gBTV olxo6E/0PML1V8/pV9RZmldebybrSZaLBSaQg= Received: by 10.103.24.17 with SMTP id b17mr4009803muj.112.1241484151039; Mon, 04 May 2009 17:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp-124-121-40-231.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.121.40.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm698771mue.8.2009.05.04.17.42.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 May 2009 17:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 07:42:19 +0700 From: Old Crankbuster To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090505004219.GA6564@gecko.davescrunch.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: (something or other) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Questions about groups. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 00:42:32 -0000 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * illoai@gmail.com [2009-05-04 14:39:34 -0400]: >=20 > Various methods apply (for instance /dev/dspN.n is world > writable), man 5 devfs.conf is a good start for some of that. >=20 =20 Ah. Thanks. --=20 Cheers --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn/i2sACgkQ5cpRcLTxAv7KqwCdHNTmLCG3/OSPugWAjWWLQI70 YbUAniiKvzHY7izNj/yo1thLApQaTsn5 =+Fpo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 00:46:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C301065673 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 00:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DC78FC0A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 00:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3037694wfg.7 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 17:46:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.141.21 with SMTP id o21mr2284465wfd.49.1241484363590; Mon, 04 May 2009 17:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:46:03 -0400 Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> From: Duane To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 00:46:04 -0000 The bios in this old Micron dual PPro-180 full tower antique only initializes the second CPU if the machine is cold-booted. A simple 'reboot' results in a single processor machine regardless of the kernel that is launched. This fact -- unknown to me before last night -- was the source of a great deal of lost time! My 6.4 SMP kernel (now customized) runs just fine, with both cpus active, *except* for this message streaming constantly up the boot console. (from /var/log/messages:) May 4 20:20:33 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:"; throttling interrupt source May 4 20:21:02 poobah last message repeated 42 times May 4 20:21:03 poobah login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv1 May 4 20:21:03 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:"; throttling interrupt source May 4 20:21:33 poobah last message repeated 30 times May 4 20:23:33 poobah last message repeated 120 times May 4 20:33:33 poobah last message repeated 599 times May 4 20:40:01 poobah last message repeated 387 times etc etc ad repetitum infinitum Question1: Is this something I should go to some lengths to eliminate? Question2: What the heck is it? Best regards, -- Duane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 00:54:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134CD1065672 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 00:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B168FC17 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 00:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4091814bwz.43 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 17:54:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:organization:user-agent; bh=Q00+QbO7vLvJ/eiCpsftPOfUw17ZssszTOkbv7CFtcw=; b=NJ28JyUHq/TSARiD84M0xY9aCmIGXCPqxioOXKG3MzXadmLvNkwKwii6Kt7iLTvNM5 mAjB837S2uEcLubXHwW3wu3e2oO91qNveuze8W1+OUfge6mosBjnw2f2VmUnS4ea6jyr B2vYsNhTNsfWFiE2ZhkQdSdi69dki1hjCAEvo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :organization:user-agent; b=AU0FhwqLIuWfOiGt0wi21XrSD7SW54Md2mNCFcfHvgQM5ou0E+R0PM8QILgVkF/ch8 wpZSaz0aWAfEtg/wzQO2Yy7f1prlSyNJb/ZXBQNYPGLsa95CRgvUokmIp3jNn622v7V/ GY7Uqod8TrGOcLsBvXfpWuxaBw7VLWJ9+bvAI= Received: by 10.103.252.17 with SMTP id e17mr4017781mus.14.1241484842322; Mon, 04 May 2009 17:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp-124-121-40-231.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.121.40.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j9sm17809401mue.51.2009.05.04.17.53.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 May 2009 17:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 07:53:51 +0700 From: Old Crankbuster To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090505005351.GB6564@gecko.davescrunch.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net> <20090504210229.c10231a2.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090504210229.c10231a2.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: (something or other) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Questions about groups. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 00:54:04 -0000 --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Polytropon [2009-05-04 21:02:29 +0200]: =20 > > [...] and of > > course 'wheel'. >=20 > Why "of course"? :-) >=20 Umm, linuxism habit :-) > There are several groups that you can add your user to, but because > you're already in wheel, you don't have to (such as the "dialer" > group for ppp). >=20 >=20 >=20 > > I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after > > initial install. >=20 > No, they seem to be "Linuxisms". :-) >=20 :-) =20 > FreeBSD manages the things you're requiring through two important > files: /etc/devfs.conf (and /etc/devfs.rules) and /etc/devd.conf. >=20 > The devfs files control the virtual device file system. It allows > you to have permissions on a per-device file basis. These files are > those that are present from system startup on. >=20 > The devd file controls how the system should react if it detects > new devices while it's already running. >=20 > See the manpages for these files. Yes, they do exist. :-) Excellent. Many thanks. :-) --=20 Cheers=20 --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn/jh8ACgkQ5cpRcLTxAv7SiACeK5WbNryyOkUr4VpqojR7SUv3 GqsAnAm1CV2d/TNf948bJFSUjxcCq4PF =Ixwu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 01:09:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC774106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB2C8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so3516061rvb.43 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 18:09:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version :subject:date; bh=+HCYtwnVQRhVYnPlXk45uPamlhwpEyAQ7IDMmKcf7ys=; b=aKJGgUs6UceSJ2Tq/7ryMk8iiBNoB19J/6IGFUd8cY2FfICt6mQj+gUVDk022/42vT Ds5FY5tobSkTka6P33a/sDH8OvUOvBThD7zilaXCyZQqdMQdKV3Ov8sm2E4Wx+XcaXjv e0gZdq28wtcWSx2rq5WlIuXH31pY0H/sthHcA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date; b=ltUhsliR5wChphrtWzbhZstz2naFBc4WiSlJ3511fkY3PGW/2rFyeFMvkzXgNKGrcR d204G4+aVJuENwesDk5x1DUu+7iubP16gcYb2/oMnnJDuX/8faPFWbGUNMrwZbGMxfHl IDg4ajkx+/slYTsoE9iVtr9XRqQWvhhxliY8U= Received: by 10.141.101.12 with SMTP id d12mr2494816rvm.240.1241485785003; Mon, 04 May 2009 18:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.114.195.215? ([32.133.88.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm810242rvf.9.2009.05.04.18.09.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 May 2009 18:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1A44786C-D6B4-4F81-A993-63ED7B4C65F2@gmail.com> From: Daniel Underwood To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:09:34 -0400 Subject: Emacs-ess X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 01:09:46 -0000 How do I install emacs-ess. I don't see it in the ports. Thanks in advance, Daniel (Sent from my iPhone) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 01:29:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6AE106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22518FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-67-54-107-208.midco.net [208.107.54.67]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6F9351173C57 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 20:29:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <49FF9680.3020800@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:29:36 -0500 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 01:29:45 -0000 Duane wrote: > The bios in this old Micron dual PPro-180 full tower antique only > initializes the second CPU if the machine is cold-booted. A simple > 'reboot' results in a single processor machine regardless of the > kernel that is launched. This fact -- unknown to me before last night > -- was the source of a great deal of lost time! > Good you found a work around. You might try ensuring your running latest avail bios as well. > My 6.4 SMP kernel (now customized) runs just fine, with both cpus > active, *except* for this message streaming constantly up the boot > console. > > (from /var/log/messages:) > > May 4 20:20:33 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:"; > throttling interrupt source > May 4 20:21:02 poobah last message repeated 42 times > May 4 20:21:03 poobah login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv1 > May 4 20:21:03 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:"; > throttling interrupt source > May 4 20:21:33 poobah last message repeated 30 times > May 4 20:23:33 poobah last message repeated 120 times > May 4 20:33:33 poobah last message repeated 599 times > May 4 20:40:01 poobah last message repeated 387 times > etc etc ad repetitum infinitum > > Question1: Is this something I should go to some lengths to eliminate? > Yes, it's probably something you should eliminate. > Question2: What the heck is it? > A poor explanation is the devices are fighting over an IRQ. 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I don't see it in the ports. You can probably just download the emacs-ess sources and extract them in a personal directory for testing, i.e.: % mkdir ~/elisp % cd ~/elisp % fetch http://ess.r-project.org/downloads/ess/ess-5.3.11.tgz % tar xzvf ess-5.3.11.tgz Then add in your ~/.emacs file the following: (add-to-list 'load-path "~/elisp/ess-5.3.11") (require 'ess-site) If you see an *ESS* buffer then you are probably ready to go. If not, then see the detailed installation instructions in `ess-5.3.11/README'. HTH, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 02:45:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A161065675 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 02:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187878FC27 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 02:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4132454bwz.43 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 19:45:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SznXz/eAmr6hKpdWOHKiPDeEZAtJtelLQ5RE9VHwWOU=; b=Qcb7O96Q8VOOB9eUxA4UTHoxgp5VIoZzXsNGR1PPZwE6X/FzL2Mp9C4nb25dFjpJqo H3hCiYqNzAqn5aQT8390uRkx8iQNYmNwqgc1j8ettElfaQMHycn1+B5DpNIndSdQ60V9 CUjBRRXuB9f+rrXET69xqzkvzO7lfT0n/8vQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G7eeytbDQRbJ7P7M48jUMl+p5u93AHmKRp+woc1HOOR1BB7U9SppBM0s8EtQ1iaN1G kmdAamghnyBFofvq3ORX/gPGQayMMelIKQld4KfsXeaXEA6j5xGXuv2P8MkR/4pTDTRX Dydlc+618+YlUw5Wa6d6+uo1Hw6sgGxxy2rw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.229.12 with SMTP id g12mr4102508mur.87.1241491543449; Mon, 04 May 2009 19:45:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zldswa6i.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <1A44786C-D6B4-4F81-A993-63ED7B4C65F2@gmail.com> <87zldswa6i.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:45:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Giorgos Keramidas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Emacs-ess X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 02:45:45 -0000 Giorgos, thanks a bunch--that was easy! Your suggestions worked perfectly. When I originally tried to install ess, i downloaded the tarball and tried to build it's contents from source. I did this because I glanced at the tarball's contents and saw such things as "Makeconf" and "Makefile". This, to me, begs the question: why the Makefile if there's no need to compile? (Pardon my limited understanding.) Thanks, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 02:49:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B62A1065675 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 02:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8EE8FC23 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 02:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD375EB5B65; Tue, 5 May 2009 05:49:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0A245088; Tue, 5 May 2009 05:49:35 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a2zc3ahJO5EX; Tue, 5 May 2009 05:49:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl119-239.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.238.239]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895D34503F; Tue, 5 May 2009 05:49:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n452nZcm022423; Tue, 5 May 2009 05:49:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n452nY3G022422; Tue, 5 May 2009 05:49:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Daniel Underwood References: <1A44786C-D6B4-4F81-A993-63ED7B4C65F2@gmail.com> <87zldswa6i.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 05:49:34 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Daniel Underwood's message of "Mon, 4 May 2009 22:45:42 -0400") Message-ID: <87skjkw9fl.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Emacs-ess X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 02:49:37 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2009 22:45:42 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Giorgos, thanks a bunch--that was easy! Your suggestions worked perfectly. > > When I originally tried to install ess, i downloaded the tarball and > tried to build it's contents from source. I did this because I > glanced at the tarball's contents and saw such things as "Makeconf" > and "Makefile". > > This, to me, begs the question: why the Makefile if there's no need to > compile? (Pardon my limited understanding.) Byte-compiling Emacs Lisp code can make it slightly faster to load. So there is a marginally small advantage to doing that. But if you don't keep closing and reopening Emacs, causing everything to reload from scratch, it shouldn't matter very much if you load the source .el files once. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 03:45:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1FA106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 03:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154F68FC1D for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 03:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so3239941qwe.7 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 20:45:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=gCtJ82f9jbUsKhsVUyesO22R4izDjYgsPwnLljgLxOM=; b=tBQv4fJX50U2fDtf26M8FCW499lxeOwdBI4Ny6gz0AJn8N5CDGi7LdEOrkPMJj15sZ fODK/d48gRnN+xdLiJVWa1hRoJX2YxJwSCXMR/2vojmCEdAkOPPkeH2HNa+7kPVs2I+V kpjc4xQgqtdSmi3in/MnOiJSJGqoXGOlZOufM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=I/uASh/W0CU6flyQceyBIRgesyuoRD+YEmcHmoCUBGL/vt2wtxOKlWrWv273NCzePj bWZAKSfH61DaxrkMUPAhAxudiXJVa0L5nkDmtdRWHcLc0HqjzYdfiUOKNSpoJQxzV7f9 ci3ntFu5QD9In9FAebRcGMae1vUgKm9lmyFA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.45.203 with SMTP id g11mr10769275vcf.70.1241495147315; Mon, 04 May 2009 20:45:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> From: Tim Judd Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:45:32 -0600 Message-ID: To: Duane Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 03:45:48 -0000 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Duane wrote: > The bios in this old Micron dual PPro-180 full tower antique only > initializes the second CPU if the machine is cold-booted. A simple > 'reboot' results in a single processor machine regardless of the > kernel that is launched. This fact -- unknown to me before last night > -- was the source of a great deal of lost time! > > My 6.4 SMP kernel (now customized) runs just fine, with both cpus > active, *except* for this message streaming constantly up the boot > console. > > (from /var/log/messages:) > > May 4 20:20:33 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:"; > throttling interrupt source > May 4 20:21:02 poobah last message repeated 42 times > May 4 20:21:03 poobah login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv1 > May 4 20:21:03 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:"; > throttling interrupt source > May 4 20:21:33 poobah last message repeated 30 times > May 4 20:23:33 poobah last message repeated 120 times > May 4 20:33:33 poobah last message repeated 599 times > May 4 20:40:01 poobah last message repeated 387 times > etc etc ad repetitum infinitum > > Question1: Is this something I should go to some lengths to eliminate? > > Question2: What the heck is it? > > > Best regards, > > -- > Duane > IRQ15 is typically your secondary IDE controller; but due to PCI (or E-ISA) plug&play, including the PnP the BIOS may setup, lots of others can be on that bus too. Likely candidates are PCI devices, such as modems, NICs, sound cards, etc I think you'd be able to find what's on IRQ15 by a simple: # grep -i irq15 /var/run/dmesg.boot You will probably not be able to pull your secondary IDE controller off 15. The possible other device that's been configured for irq15 might stop if you disable PnP OS in the BIOS (if it exists), or setting irq15 to the equivelant of 'reserved' in the BIOS might aleviate the problem. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 05:49:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254CB1065670 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 05:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046478FC0C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 05:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3163625wfg.7 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 22:49:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.186.15 with SMTP id j15mr2526333wff.205.1241502540637; Mon, 04 May 2009 22:49:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 01:49:00 -0400 Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905042249p670eefeakf61d578bf09e373@mail.gmail.com> From: Duane To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=000e0cd215ecec25e7046923d555 Subject: Re: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 05:49:01 -0000 --000e0cd215ecec25e7046923d555 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/4/09, Tim Judd wrote: > IRQ15 is typically your secondary IDE controller; but due to PCI (or E-ISA) > plug&play, including the PnP the BIOS may setup, lots of others can be on > that bus too. This box has one SCSI card running two SCSI drives. The IDE's are disabled in the BIOS. But the SCSI card does feature in the problem: > # grep -i irq15 /var/run/dmesg.boot No 'irq15' is found. One can see that the "interrupt storm" begins when the SCSI drives begin to spin up, IF the machine is booting with two cpus initialized. dmesg.boot is attached for everyone's edification and amusement! Another interesting datapoint is that if the machine is booted in Safe Mode the "interrupt storm" disappears, but so does the second cpu. 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:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9/6DwUNCgoV7oTXOjMdMrBrI1ur86fMOmJVRyx/Er5Q=; b=TjBJhFVH+KrquUxl0/J8x3pxbp6TImdQJu8H9wCEQNth9ufgE9CbFWDs635QZhkFHQ X61sTT8/jsajc0P82ZW8fYs8nGd+jvD+THbofrvxrlNTnu8ULg1LWlheu7qzAP41Y4S7 Jpxv/np9YenQtga9oLYPsZYg1X0SpA5iSm7Z4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=I5FaUnaRZ/JD+FehkvoiF/kPL/sOSI+ja9brEwHilgcTuX86e8+LbC9JeS+XOx5wvC sfbDCS3vpr/93S7/iQY8l3fD925MhfzP7tj140A3RhgjNQGKBaexT+eInYsZ/MKKgUaa IStNBjO6v1ZEEgsVaAhhN+46Z3vfqFYOafYpM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.87.18 with SMTP id u18mr10847392vcl.102.1241503207218; Mon, 04 May 2009 23:00:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905042249p670eefeakf61d578bf09e373@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> <5e8ad96d0905042249p670eefeakf61d578bf09e373@mail.gmail.com> From: Tim Judd Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:59:52 -0600 Message-ID: To: Duane Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 06:00:09 -0000 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Duane wrote: > On 5/4/09, Tim Judd wrote: > > > IRQ15 is typically your secondary IDE controller; but due to PCI (or > E-ISA) > > plug&play, including the PnP the BIOS may setup, lots of others can be on > > that bus too. > > This box has one SCSI card running two SCSI drives. The IDE's are > disabled in the BIOS. But the SCSI card does feature in the problem: > > > # grep -i irq15 /var/run/dmesg.boot > > No 'irq15' is found. One can see that the "interrupt storm" begins > when the SCSI drives begin to spin up, IF the machine is booting with > two cpus initialized. dmesg.boot is attached for everyone's > edification and amusement! > > Another interesting datapoint is that if the machine is booted in Safe > Mode the "interrupt storm" disappears, but so does the second cpu. > > > Best regards, > > -- > Duane > I've seen the IRQ storms when an IDE channel is disabled too. And to silence it I had to enable the channel (using an IRQ), with no devices on it. it's gonna be a chatterbox, and the question is if the system can work with a shortage of up to 2 IRQs (irq 14 = primary IDE, irq 15 = secondary IDE) Especially early 586 and 686 classes I saw that often. Would you try enabling the IDE channels and see if the IRQ storms stop? --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 06:39:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312BC106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 06:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120878FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 06:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3183902wfg.7 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 23:39:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.108.3 with SMTP id g3mr2635321wfc.77.1241505556637; Mon, 04 May 2009 23:39:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> <5e8ad96d0905042249p670eefeakf61d578bf09e373@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 02:39:16 -0400 Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905042339q78282defwffdc1d363a559c47@mail.gmail.com> From: Duane To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 06:39:17 -0000 On 5/5/09, Tim Judd wrote: > Would you try enabling the IDE channels and see if the IRQ storms stop? There is joy in Mudville. I couldn't really change the IDE settings that much since there are no IDE drives in this thing. The channels are all on 'auto' and that yields a "NONE" for each of them (iirc, it's a kinda late). But I did turn on some stuff that was off in the BIOS: serial port A, the sound card, and the parallell port. I know it's not good engineering practice to change a bunch of stuff at once, but there it is. Whatever I did along the lines of turning stuff *on* seems to have done the trick! Thanks all! -- Duane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 08:20:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C940D1065672 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 08:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10668FC12 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 08:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n458KOCs081771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 5 May 2009 01:20:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n458KOSN081770; Tue, 5 May 2009 01:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03952; Tue, 5 May 09 01:19:30 PDT Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 01:20:53 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk Message-Id: <49fff6e5.JdJRbLiNeEolnKU2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:20:27 -0000 Mike Clarke wrote: > On Monday 04 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: ... > > ? #!/bin/csh > > ? clear > > ? vidcontrol -C > > ? exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@" > > But this wouldn't prevent someone scrolling back with the scroll > lock key before logging in. I assume the OP's requirement is to > stop people from seeing previous users console activity. That's what the "vidcontrol -C" line is supposed to accomplish, based on my reading of vidcontrol(1) and earlier messages in the thread. Granted I have not actually tried it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 08:45:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7DC106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 08:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FEA8FC0C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 08:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAOOZ/0nUnw4T/2dsb2JhbAC/ZwGPK4JMAYEwBQ Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 05 May 2009 09:45:18 +0100 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1M1GH7-0005iM-Pl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 09:45:17 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1GH7-0000o7-2V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 09:45:17 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:45:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <49fff6e5.JdJRbLiNeEolnKU2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <49fff6e5.JdJRbLiNeEolnKU2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905050945.16910.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 670ae72b9a810a63094becd9b75e21fa Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:45:19 -0000 On Tuesday 05 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Mike Clarke wrote: > > On Monday 04 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > ... > > > > ? #!/bin/csh > > > ? clear > > > ? vidcontrol -C > > > ? exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@" > > > > But this wouldn't prevent someone scrolling back with the scroll > > lock key before logging in. I assume the OP's requirement is to > > stop people from seeing previous users console activity. > > That's what the "vidcontrol -C" line is supposed to accomplish, > based on my reading of vidcontrol(1) and earlier messages in the > thread. Granted I have not actually tried it. Yes, "vidcontrol -C" will accomplish this, but my point was that including this as part of the replacement login script is too late. You don't need to be logged in to use the scroll lock and pg{Up,Dn} keys. To prevent people seeing the previous users activity you would need to clear the console buffer at the logout stage. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 09:00:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D453106567A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B6A8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n45907YR082094 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:00:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:00:06 +0200 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE7ED@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Snapshots Thread-Index: AcnNX+Ll31oPOJoRTp2n2UTZow+1TQ== From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Snapshots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:00:10 -0000 Are there no more snapshots of current? The last is from 02-2009 Regards, Johan=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 09:22:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525CC106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EE28FC0C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n459LE12021572; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:21:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n459LEqx021569; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:21:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:21:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Marcin Szczepaniak Subject: vtund&linux client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:22:06 -0000 i wanted to give IPv6 tunnel to someone running linux with vtund added position as usual to vtund.conf (there are already many tunnels), and he can't connect. In FreeBSD you have to add VTUN_EXTENDED_MODE=yes to /etc/make.conf before compiling from ports to have IPv6 support. in linux - i don't know. does anyone have an example (or working vtund binary/package) for linux supporting IPv6? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 09:43:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0E3106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (smtp3.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AFD8FC19 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 5BE991BC050B_A000966B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:39:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (eca.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.91]) by smtp2.yhgfl.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id EEA201BC04F6_A000965F for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:39:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n459dfgh012830 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:39:42 +0100 Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A95256700AE; Tue, 05 May 2009 10:39:30 +0100 From: "Marc Coyles" To: Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:39:27 +0100 Message-ID: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnNZWIYSUmznJbdQiOQ2gAiZCkdXw== Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Subject: Dump snapshot issue... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:43:20 -0000 I've got a script that dumps various filesystems to tape for me, but I've always had an issue whenever I've used the -L option... see below: /usr/bin/mt rewind /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 / dump: Cannot create //.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /home mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /tmp dump: Cannot create /tmp/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /usr dump: Cannot create /usr/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /var dump: Cannot create /var/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory /usr/bin/mt rewind The .snap folders exist at all points, are set to root:operator, with perms 770... The dump_snapshot files seem to be present, albeit 0 bytes, root:operator, perms 400... Running 7.0-RELEASE-p11... Any suggestions? Marc A Coyles - Horbury School ICT Support Team Mbl: 07850 518106 Land: 01924 282740 ext 730 Helpdesk: 01924 282740 ext 2000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 09:47:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DBE1065675 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200AD8FC1D for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so3735502rvb.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 02:47:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:organization:user-agent; bh=/sR+KNE2Yt1MmDqFFRIrIfcpN0nS8pvUOcZlEbvxGjg=; b=tc1l6iyCK2Y7aeAq5Nk09Oup9D2JNN7w0c36hAE9jMp1SKn6+I7zFkO0l/b7DDwvH8 u/zCoZrN43qZUNP0HO1Xu7cgqa4n+c2i37o8Um2Y+StniS2pZCByOKVBcVLwbarD002P glqHfgYWFnAnGRI/pVnXNgsRQi4PjSAkamA78= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:organization:user-agent; b=SYxYpDkltUvZGq7nF5E3KXhlHZOCxVMyNetSziDlynropY9TgCyTmr/mNeF7IetzT0 a23odGolQsmd1tuumSX9v6e/490cTB1PBz/fFR4ops5TXpU0J5VUvwZDPzIKQ/CEuu/I V7IHgB8QdSpdf7RtfW4TbHKM6O5TA+THH50HQ= Received: by 10.141.168.16 with SMTP id v16mr2478349rvo.233.1241516821510; Tue, 05 May 2009 02:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp-124-121-36-189.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.121.36.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm17473318rvb.47.2009.05.05.02.46.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 05 May 2009 02:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:46:51 +0700 From: Old Crankbuster To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20090505094651.GA4784@gecko.davescrunch.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline Organization: (something or other) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: ATI woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:47:02 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thought I'd throw this one out there: I installed release 7.1 while waiting for 7.2 to download, used the handbook to configure X, get Gnome up and running, and start learning the system. The graphics chip on this laptop is ati hd 3200, and the standard X radeon driver worked ok. Cleaned everything off and installed 7.2, and the driver is borked using the same method (enable dbus and hald in /etc/rc.conf, then run Xorg -config): The screen is black with some tearing, and the machine accepts no keyboard input to exit X, requiring a dirty reboot. So cleaned everything off again, reinstalled 7.1 and will play there until I can figure out how to upgrade the system without borking X. Little alarm bells were going off in my head when I bought this thing (I've had severe problems with ati chips under windows and linux in the past), but it was cheap, and I needed a slab right away. Sorry 'bout the rant, but ati sucks. --=20 Cheers --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoACwsACgkQ5cpRcLTxAv7a4wCcDvjrhzjxRCk26FnRfN+bE2Q/ yYIAoLs3dxRQ1BbWEskpn9Ypi2W94i68 =5ifQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 09:47:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3411065676 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C6F8FC0C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 09:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105093454E; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:47:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:47:16 +0200 From: cpghost To: Warren Liddell Message-ID: <20090505094716.GA1395@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FOR MARK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:47:22 -0000 On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 07:25:47AM +1000, Warren Liddell wrote: > After finally managing to get some encoding options from this list > everything went smoothley untill it got to the burning part .. below is > the error i got.... > > enterprise# ls > dvd.iso > enterprise# growisofs -dvd-video -Z /dev/cd1 dvd.iso 1. you probably meant -dvd-compat instead of -dvd-video 2. for premastered isos, use this syntax: -Z /dev/cd1=dvd1.iso (don't forget the = sign) > What am i missing//not doing correctly ? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 10:09:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FF11065670 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987038FC3F for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109EA344D8; Tue, 5 May 2009 12:09:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 12:09:50 +0200 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090505100950.GA1531@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: MAKE_JOBS_SAFE et al. missing in documentation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:09:53 -0000 Shouldn't the following variables be mentioned in the Porter's Handbook and in ports(7)? (from /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk) # MAKE_JOBS_SAFE # - This port can safely be built on multiple cpus in parallel. # The make will be invoked with -jX parameter where X equals # number of cores present in the system. # MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE # - Disallow multiple jobs even when user set a global override. # To be used with known bad ports. # DISABLE_MAKE_JOBS # - Set to disable the multiple jobs feature. User settable. # FORCE_MAKE_JOBS # - Force all ports to be built with multiple jobs, except ports # that are explicitly marked MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE. User settable. # MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER # - Override the number of make jobs to be used. User settable. This is incredibly useful and a lot of ports actually compile cleanly with MAKE_JOBS_SAFE, though they are still not yet marked as such. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 10:24:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A48A106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DCE8FC13 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M1Hp6-0003Oo-GL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 03:24:28 -0700 Message-ID: <23384784.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 03:24:28 -0700 (PDT) From: turutani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: turutani@scphys.kyoto-u.ac.jp References: <49F5DED3.8010609@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Apache won't start - undefined symbol "libintl_bindtextdomain" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:24:34 -0000 Bill Somerson wrote: > > "I did a "make config" in avahi-app (which is where libintl.so.8 came > from)" > > Sorry, I meant avahi-app is where libavahi-common.so.3 came from (which is > the thing that's complaining about a lack of libintl_bindtextdomain). > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Bill Somerson > wrote: > > how about the patch in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=134227 ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Apache-won%27t-start---undefined-symbol-%22libintl_bindtextdomain%22-tp23259886p23384784.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 10:36:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB35E106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3488C8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M1I12-0000VI-I4; Tue, 05 May 2009 11:36:48 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n45AaluX019640; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:36:47 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED4AFFCA699; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:36:41 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:36:41 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Mike Clarke Message-ID: <20090505103641.GA62529@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <49fff6e5.JdJRbLiNeEolnKU2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <200905050945.16910.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905050945.16910.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Tue, 05 May 2009 11:36:47 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clear old output in login screen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:36:53 -0000 On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 09:45:16AM +0100, Mike Clarke wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Mike Clarke wrote: > > > On Monday 04 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > ? #!/bin/csh > > > > ? clear > > > > ? vidcontrol -C > > > > ? exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@" > > > > > > But this wouldn't prevent someone scrolling back with the scroll > > > lock key before logging in. I assume the OP's requirement is to > > > stop people from seeing previous users console activity. > > > > That's what the "vidcontrol -C" line is supposed to accomplish, > > based on my reading of vidcontrol(1) and earlier messages in the > > thread. Granted I have not actually tried it. > > Yes, "vidcontrol -C" will accomplish this, but my point was that > including this as part of the replacement login script is too late. You > don't need to be logged in to use the scroll lock and pg{Up,Dn} keys. > To prevent people seeing the previous users activity you would need to > clear the console buffer at the logout stage. > I see what you mean. Perhaps put vidcontrol -C in /etc/csh.logout For other shells e.g ksh: alias logout='~/.ksh_logout; exit' (not tested) It seems that for sh, logout is a builtin but it's not mentioned in it's manpage. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 07:33:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A7C106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 07:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (posta.ihlasnet.com.tr [213.238.128.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE738FC1F for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 07:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net) Received: (qmail 25983 invoked by uid 89); 5 May 2009 10:33:12 +0300 Received: from ihlasnetym (HELO desktop2002) (yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net@213.238.150.220) by pop3.ihlas.net.tr with SMTP; 5 May 2009 10:33:12 +0300 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?= To: Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:33:19 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Disclaimer: netiletisim.net X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:39:22 +0000 Subject: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 11:46:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADDF1065670 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63478FC0A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M1I8G-0001Eg-2I; Tue, 05 May 2009 11:44:16 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n45AiFrv031549; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:44:15 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1BE81FCA699; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:44:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:44:10 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Chris Chambers Message-ID: <20090505104410.GB62529@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Tue, 05 May 2009 11:44:15 +0100 (BST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:46:24 -0000 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:26:42PM -0700, Chris Chambers wrote: > > Hi, > > Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. > Then using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the > space to my freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot > loader can not find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition > under FixIt, but mount says "broken argument". > > > Any ideas? The loader wont be able to find /boot/kernal but /boot/kernel it might stand a chance ;) No idea if this is your problem; it might just be a typo in your post. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 12:37:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCF51065672 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 12:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788ED8FC12 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 12:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4430847bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 05:37:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hb5dP2bH9Mf5msY96z2LHFdAaMPlv8gkoqSYTliWatA=; b=frj4H5QHho3bGLaG5JQ4sqUYl0Wv7UsRzjKduMFLGJEF1zAgR8LL6e3QWk9ztOy3jk cQ8CepXXmiZEMSfut6O8SU9k0UWr5bpVIlRCgHkv9YQZ05WBsTL1WIem8pI5ExvNXd0v izRI4cGriz/6sRNlsjYet6JqXk72QPvZNObMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vvixjel452Fye4Pq0Vr5wG1GeGd7bksdmPgcqOnpWC1JGGPrf9DbF1spakeawC/Yey iNgccJJpLBIqkGMf+TLPSfo2Aj6f9DRa6DdQRUCsNsY26g/MTMLimaL2iKTnDZ2kT5za FHOv4314jbztW5c4GvZ+iLU6CwL7Rp2ivvvOM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.160.3 with SMTP id m3mr20074muo.25.1241527048108; Tue, 05 May 2009 05:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 08:37:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Using portsuprade only for security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:37:30 -0000 I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security fixes. So my question is: how or where can I monitor security vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect to security, without applying every non-security update? Thanks, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 12:55:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF6C106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 12:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7438FC0A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 12:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4471802.home.otenet.gr [94.71.123.234]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n45CtCvQ020155; Tue, 5 May 2009 15:55:12 +0300 Message-ID: <4A003730.10702@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:55:12 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Underwood References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using portsuprade only for security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:55:15 -0000 Daniel Underwood wrote: > I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of > installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I > prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An > obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security > vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security > fixes. > > So my question is: how or where can I monitor security > vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect > to security, without applying every non-security update? > > Thanks, > Daniel > User ports-mgmt/portaudit This will report any installed port with security issues. It will even run from periodic, sending this info via email. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 12:57:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E62106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 12:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480988FC1C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 12:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090505125703.TXGE7670.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:57:03 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.101.171]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090505125703.OPKY13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:57:03 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id DA10266EA; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:57:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31B0366E3 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:57:00 +0100 (BST) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 5 May 2009 13:56:59 +0100 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:56:59 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090505125659.GA46153@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ZKKhyDFVtUkA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=LsGWfA76cltGn_hRlkAA:9 a=mWLsoEr4wpa2abFmlwEfLXVBqLMA:4 a=b9wOdgMF-fjs_NDyd90A:9 a=hL5RZFCpd89bZ88QSLDP0OHCqioA:4 Subject: Re: Using portsuprade only for security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:57:06 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 08:37:28AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of > installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I > prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An > obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security > vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security > fixes. >=20 > So my question is: how or where can I monitor security > vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect > to security, without applying every non-security update? Subscribe to security-notifications@ (for base system security alerts), and install ports-mgmt/portaudit. --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoAN5sACgkQixf5fBYiFmpdXgCfeAYdKE7lg2E7raeHFBnH6LV7 7vkAn1FXDffM5wK9AgGEJMqA6/sqEN1L =geUf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 13:10:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB301065677 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306288FC21 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4455375bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 06:10:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=oJTfca5NUuA0r5pwBQnELnIXlNQ1WhIKpfH6WmqaSXw=; b=vPlsUWndH2jpgmHLxO2ZN2Mj25JEdflQ3cJV8Qd2q492IQDfghN7dEd1gWIDgxCyCt mEcP8U2hdkwjmYWmddMKXTC4R+cbhUNrLK85fMWFmRtC0xORNMCVC8gXA06se/obimyg 6FRGZ2G8HxIEd8LVp+h85QHoFQaTSqu+nGe/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=D0U3Aw+SDBms43i0/cmBooGDz+RytkHK//TvRn2sFZsu8lWqUR4UWxwACR36ixUKNU XCqjeoXX8oFtFoCgSVKG36PDgYoj4XEW6QoBR3QBCof2lW7WJnbSVoQcAtcNIVojMJOs ZW8E1teoJ9SR52+y+1SoXVHX6XXv+Qqp/Htr4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.94.18 with SMTP id x18mr24090vcm.118.1241529028212; Tue, 05 May 2009 06:10:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Tim Judd Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 07:10:13 -0600 Message-ID: To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using portsuprade only for security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:10:31 -0000 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of > installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I > prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An > obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security > vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security > fixes. > > So my question is: how or where can I monitor security > vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect > to security, without applying every non-security update? > > Thanks, > Daniel > portaudit does that. watch your periodic mailings after install From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 13:17:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F08C106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjs@rakupottery.org.uk) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458658FC19 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjs@rakupottery.org.uk) Received: from rakuman.demon.co.uk ([80.177.154.53] helo=rakuba.rakupottery.org.uk) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1M0yfG-0004Ph-np for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2009 13:57:02 +0000 Message-ID: <49FEF42E.30700@rakupottery.org.uk> Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:57:02 +0100 From: Martin Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org> <49FE0A33.5040804@telus.net> <20090504054840inode@frozen-zone.org> In-Reply-To: <20090504054840inode@frozen-zone.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apache errors. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:17:01 -0000 Armin Pirkovitsch wrote: > Hi! > > Have you tried to recompile the port from which that library came? > (pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3 should help you finding > the correct port if you do not know which port that is) > > Armin > > > On Sun 03 May 2009, Jeff Molofee wrote: > >> Just started getting this.. can anyone tell me how to fix it? >> >> Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration: >> httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: >> Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: >> /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol >> "libintl_bindtextdomain" Now I have the same problem so I went to recompile avahi-app, did rmconfig and then make config, it said no user config options, or something very similar. So where to now? -- Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 13:23:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C61C106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8388FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4464999bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 06:22:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+poFSevna8h5R+LFrT2i3xkufu7iVgWQ3Jf6BBzIhcI=; b=KW2LdLnJ48yY/aPiw702DIrj9NZ6VHfOWmhlbrWRZVlww04RpeTUswXPw5FNIrmHmA Ka+SaLD+UFnRBSI1H8aOx9UQRFtC7Y/XnyngE/PaLtwZ7FU1zvJTSjqh+TYzv+ntGDyN 6aomLVumKNk/+JVVCwwYWN3kLNl0JOY2oihJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XuxC9vnZKk7K2ptNLUHmZ/WOSTJ9ccOo+PjqzwHWiXwJtDNDK/KOP5RKj/vQ1J0RqN Wqe/tSUFLubD1I39kPSquncxIycPSh3YkNKbE5l7xb1KfhpotWkknK1YLDZzUIPI/RAF U5DP+p3o014k3rhfLJdYnO3BvDfeigKjE/awE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.92.8 with SMTP id u8mr51873mul.34.1241529778570; Tue, 05 May 2009 06:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:22:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Shopping for external harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:23:00 -0000 I'm looking to purchase a >= 1TB external harddrive, because I'm running out of room on my 300GB external. Anyone have good experience with any particular brands? I really don't know how different brands compare in reliability to one another. Of course I plan to check CNet and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks have personal recommendations. Thanks, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 13:42:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5641065670 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from mailserv.mta.ca (mailserv.mta.ca [138.73.1.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEE58FC1F for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (helo=qemg.org) by mailserv.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1M1Kum-0002Zp-5T; Tue, 05 May 2009 10:42:33 -0300 Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:46:22 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Wright To: Marc Coyles In-Reply-To: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> Message-ID: References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump snapshot issue... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:42:40 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2009, Marc Coyles wrote: > I've got a script that dumps various filesystems to tape for me, but > I've always had an issue whenever I've used the -L option... see below: > > /usr/bin/mt rewind > /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 / > dump: Cannot create //.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory You probably have not created the .snap directory in the root of the filesystem. >From the dump(8) man page: If the .snap directory does not exist in the root of the file system being dumped, a warning will be issued and the dump will revert to the standard behavior. This problem can be corrected by creating a .snap directory in the root of the file system to be dumped; its owner should be ``root'', its group should be ``operator'', and its mode should be ``0770''. A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 13:48:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2E71065673 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from mailserv.mta.ca (mailserv.mta.ca [138.73.1.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57038FC25 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (helo=qemg.org) by mailserv.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1M1L0q-0003NW-D0; Tue, 05 May 2009 10:48:49 -0300 Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:52:38 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Wright To: Daniel Underwood In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Shopping for external harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:48:51 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2009, Daniel Underwood wrote: > and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks > have personal recommendations. I had an unpleasant experience with Maxtor/Seagate support this year. I had one of their OneTouch III's pack up after 6 mo, and the warranty replacement died out of the box. It took 69 days as well as dozens of phone calls + emails to get a replacement for the dead replacement. The overall failure rate of their products seems to be acceptable, but their support is just terrible. A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 13:55:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECC01065675 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (smtp3.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D118FC12 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 77D6A1BC05D1_A004474B; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:51:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (eca.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.91]) by smtp2.yhgfl.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id 1E0001BC0541_A004472F; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:51:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n45DphXw007593; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:51:44 +0100 Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A46372700AE; Tue, 05 May 2009 14:51:31 +0100 From: "Marc Coyles" To: References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:51:29 +0100 Message-ID: <004901c9cd88$97377450$c5a65cf0$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnNiAktsSlubVubSk2XyKKv7TiMGgAAEisA Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Cc: 'Andrew Wright' Subject: RE: Dump snapshot issue... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:55:22 -0000 > You probably have not created the .snap directory in the root of > the filesystem. Like I said... "The .snap folders exist at all points, are set to root:operator, with perms 770... The dump_snapshot files seem to be present, albeit 0 bytes, root:operator, perms 400..." Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 14:27:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05F8106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE6E8FC1D for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1514B16C000C; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:27:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n45ERmtv001557; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:27:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:27:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Yavuz =?UTF-8?Q?Ma=C5=9Flak?= Message-Id: <20090505162748.8aff21eb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:27:56 -0000 Hi, I don't want to sound impolite, but I think it's important that you know the correct terminology: On Tue, 5 May 2009 10:33:19 +0300, Yavuz MaÅŸlak wrote: > I use freebsd7.1 > > I have two folders [...] In UNIX, there are no "folders". These are called directories. To avoid misunderstandings, please name them correctly in the future. > which contains some expressions in everyline as > following; > File A: See? You call them "files" correctly. Why don't you refer to them as "sheets of paper" as an analogy to "folders"? :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 14:33:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFE6106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD418FC17 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n45EWdwl023565; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:32:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n45EWc62023562; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:32:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:32:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Andrew Wright In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Daniel Underwood , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Shopping for external harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:33:34 -0000 > warranty replacement died out of the box. It took 69 days > as well as dozens of phone calls + emails to get a replacement > for the dead replacement. while i never had problems with warranty on hard drives (only internal but anyway), it always took 2-3 weeks. shop where i bought it handled it for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 14:44:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8167106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D668FC16 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4471802.home.otenet.gr [94.71.123.234]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n45Ei6Ue009512; Tue, 5 May 2009 17:44:06 +0300 Message-ID: <4A0050B6.8000400@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:44:06 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Underwood References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Shopping for external harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:44:09 -0000 Daniel Underwood wrote: > I'm looking to purchase a >= 1TB external harddrive, because I'm > running out of room on my 300GB external. Anyone have good experience > with any particular brands? I really don't know how different brands > compare in reliability to one another. Of course I plan to check CNet > and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks > have personal recommendations. > > Thanks, > Daniel > > I recently replaced my Lacie external hardrive (used for backup) with a WD MyBook. The Lacie was about two years old and the USB interface failed. The disk is still ok. I believe this came along as a result of faulty design decisions: - The disk was on and spinning all the time, no matter if accessed or not (it was only getting mounted for an hour or two a day) - There was not enough space in the box and around the disk, very bad cooling. The MyBook quickly spins down when not in use and runs very cool due to the case design. I expect it to last a lot longer. I believe these come in 1Tb models as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 15:04:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0C11065670 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 15:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from mx.inode.at (mx16.lb01.inode.at [62.99.145.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA2A8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 15:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from [84.119.8.155] (port=10299 helo=fz-sub1.local) by smartmx-16.inode.at with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1MBj-0005eU-Sk; Tue, 05 May 2009 17:04:08 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:04:17 +0200 From: Armin Pirkovitsch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Yavuz =?utf-8?Q?Ma=C5=9Flak?= Message-ID: <20090505165621inode@frozen-zone.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Armin Pirkovitsch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:04:10 -0000 First of all I suppose you're talking about 2 files, not folders. In which case the command you're using isn't looking so bad since it shows the differences between file "a" and file "b": > diff --suppress-common-lines -w -y a b abcde | xyasz But since you do not seem to be happy with the output - what should it look like? Armin On Tue 05 May 2009, Yavuz MaÅŸlak wrote: > I have two folders which contains some expressions in everyline as > following; > File A: > abcde > 12345 > etc. > > File B: > xyzas > 12345 > etc > > As above some strings are same and some strings are different. > There are several differents between these two files. > > When I run diff command "diff --suppress-common-lines -y -w file1 file2 > > fileresult" like I couldn't result right. > How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? > > Which command do I need to use ? -- Armin Pirkovitsch a.pirko@inode.at From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 15:37:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EFC106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 15:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E878FC0A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 15:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KJ600KESGOOHNN0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 11:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A005D46.5010809@optiksecurite.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:37:42 -0400 From: Martin Turgeon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Upgrading jails to 7.2-RELEASE with freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:37:32 -0000 Hi everyone, It's the first time I'm using freebsd-update to upgrade my system to a new release. I just upgraded the base system from 7.1-RELEASE to 7.2-RELEASE and everything went fine. I now wanted to upgrade my jails to the new release but freebsd-update is telling me that's already updated... freebsd-update -b /usr/jail/mysql/ upgrade -r 7.2-RELEASE freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 7.2-RELEASE to itself I understand that the jails are sharing the kernel and that freebsd-update must be verifying the version of the kernel. So I tried to just fetch install the update in the jail. freebsd-update -b /usr/jail/mysql/ fetch install Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 7.2-RELEASE-p0. No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. I already used the -b option to update my jails with security updates, but never to a new release. What am I doing wrong? Thanks everyone for sharing! Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 16:26:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743F7106567E for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4AA8FC0C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80F67E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 08:26:10 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:26:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <4A005D46.5010809@optiksecurite.com> In-Reply-To: <4A005D46.5010809@optiksecurite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905051826.09616.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Martin Turgeon Subject: Re: Upgrading jails to 7.2-RELEASE with freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:26:14 -0000 On Tuesday 05 May 2009 17:37:42 Martin Turgeon wrote: > Hi everyone, > > It's the first time I'm using freebsd-update to upgrade my system to a > new release. I just upgraded the base system from 7.1-RELEASE to > 7.2-RELEASE and everything went fine. I now wanted to upgrade my jails > to the new release but freebsd-update is telling me that's already > updated... > > freebsd-update -b /usr/jail/mysql/ upgrade -r 7.2-RELEASE > freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 7.2-RELEASE to itself Should be able to trick it using: env UNAME_r=7.1-RELEASE-p5 freebsd-update -b /path/to/jail (based on a quick source scan, untested). -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 16:33:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794E51065675 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262A18FC36 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nmCz1b00216LCl058sLRJR; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:20:25 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nsLX1b00A1f6R9u3SsLYoc; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:20:33 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 05 May 2009 09:20:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:20:29 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090505162029.GE18204@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A0050B6.8000400@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A0050B6.8000400@otenet.gr> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.x/OS X 10.5.x X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Shopping for external harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:33:49 -0000 On Tue 05 May 2009 at 07:44:06 PDT Manolis Kiagias wrote: >I recently replaced my Lacie external hardrive (used for backup) with a >WD MyBook. The Lacie was about two years old and the USB interface >failed. The disk is still ok. I believe this came along as a result of >faulty design decisions: > >- The disk was on and spinning all the time, no matter if accessed or >not (it was only getting mounted for an hour or two a day) >- There was not enough space in the box and around the disk, very bad >cooling. I had the same problem with a 500GB LaCie external drive. The USB interface had been flaky for a while, and finally died one day when we had a windstorm and the power went out. I removed the drive from the housing and connected it directly via SATA, and it's been running like a champ ever since. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 17:09:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215CF106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 17:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com [207.106.133.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92A88FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 17:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87C3B030C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lukas.is-a-geek.org (unknown [71.112.210.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E393FB030B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:09:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 765E1B82-3997-11DE-99B7-CABC03BA4B0C-96347044!a-sasl-fastnet.pobox.com Subject: ath_hal problem on slow hardware, can be tuned? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:09:17 -0000 I'm following 7-STABLE with my laptop. As soon as ath_hal appeared, I started having trouble with my wireless connection dropping every few hours. +ath0: ath_chan_set: unable to reset channel 11 (2462 Mhz, flags 0x480 hal flags 0xc0), hal status 3 The ath manpage documents this error as: ath%d: ath_chan_set: unable to reset channel %u (%u Mhz) The Atheros Hardware Access Layer was unable to reset the hardware when switching channels during scanning. This should not happen. sys/contrib/dev/ath/ah.h documents the error 3 as: HAL_EIO = 3, /* Hardware didn't respond as expected */ I can run /etc/rc.d/netif start dhclient ath0 to reset the interface and reconnect to the wireless network after this happens. I'm thinking that ath_hal doesn't like my card as much as the old ath driver system did, or perhaps there's some tunable that I need to adjust. This is an old laptop. It's a Sony Vaio PCG-Z505S - a celeron 133MHz "designed for MS Windows 98". In the best of circumstances, it can never establish a wireless connection before ntp comes up at boot time. wpa_supplicant always "gives up" the first time it attempts to connect because this hardware is so slow. I'm saying it's slow. I wonder if it's so slow that it's not responding as fast as ath_hal wants it to respond whenever it decides to rescan for channels. I know that such problems can sometimes be solved with sysctls or adjustment of constants. Would anyone have any suggestions? The wireless card is a DWL-G650 pccard, revision B2 pciconf -vlbc says this about it: ath0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x32021186 chip=0x0013168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' device = 'AR5212, AR5213 802.11a/b/g Wireless Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet bar [10] = type Memory, range 32, base 0x88000000, size 65536, enabled cap 01[44] = powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 17:39:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A05C10656E4 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 17:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34408FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 17:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n8so232118gve.39 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 10:39:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ShftImHJQgd45x8M6zr7V92JcOGhGCPoO2S++QYdpfM=; b=NObSzV49UPaJICNj6ErSId3nc68rejCSYNFmPI1tYWDviI7ZU70sOjcMfVSJuA0HIF BHebI4K6L1Jjyp/Ps0llv5zcTUxWal+wyFvT3Zabpf2pZn0ZpleKxqpabIr/1xjjY/kF EFflx0IJtSVZ3RGwhw+RF2CTGiXpFSXLlS81U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DBFIXVKyVND4EVaSEHbHG1GXgOvxAHGKYDVVPqVlTXEtnoXUjQfFdsKLPW+4/3B8No quAas+7DeycLawV2no8EzUMwHOu8IEAu8KqBGf3v/tIT2s2j9pOsjPMEMATyVWQ2tuu4 +9bbQEA6BkdYzZO807MNaasNPQDgtiJcAesIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.80.21 with SMTP id r21mr280160qck.80.1241545188127; Tue, 05 May 2009 10:39:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:39:33 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750905051039y67bed9a5g6e1419b57b9e74fe@mail.gmail.com> To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Measuring CPU usage via SNMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:39:58 -0000 Hello all, Simple question - does the sum of differences in ssCpuRawIdle, ssCpuRawUser, ssCpuRawNice, ssCpuRawKernel, and ssCpuRawInterrupt OIDs on a FreeBSD 7.2 system give me total CPU allocation (i.e. is a constant)? I've configured a few scripts to read these values from bsnmpd, store them via rrdtool, and then generate a single graph with idle on the negative y axis and everything else stacked on top. I want to make sure that no other counter is missing from this ensemble and the ones listed do not overlap. If either of those conditions is not met, my usage percent calculation will not be accurate. The OIDs that I left out are: ssCpuRawSoftIRQ - documentation states that this is for Linux only, but FreeBSD 7.2 does provide a value for it ssCpuRawWait - always 0? ssCpuRawSystem - seems to be a sum of ssCpuRawKernel and ssCpuRawInterrupt As far as I can tell, these three do not factor into the equation. The only one I'm not sure about is ssCpuRawSystem. Is there ever a time when it will not equal to ssCpuRawKernel + ssCpuRawInterrupt? Thanks for your help, Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 17:50:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F98106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 17:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3688FC19 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 17:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KJ6004E7MVV6BA1@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A007C66.3010408@optiksecurite.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:50:30 -0400 From: Martin Turgeon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Mel Flynn References: <4A005D46.5010809@optiksecurite.com> <200905051826.09616.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-reply-to: <200905051826.09616.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading jails to 7.2-RELEASE with freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:50:20 -0000 Mel Flynn a écrit : > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 17:37:42 Martin Turgeon wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> It's the first time I'm using freebsd-update to upgrade my system to a >> new release. I just upgraded the base system from 7.1-RELEASE to >> 7.2-RELEASE and everything went fine. I now wanted to upgrade my jails >> to the new release but freebsd-update is telling me that's already >> updated... >> >> freebsd-update -b /usr/jail/mysql/ upgrade -r 7.2-RELEASE >> freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 7.2-RELEASE to itself > > Should be able to trick it using: > env UNAME_r=7.1-RELEASE-p5 freebsd-update -b /path/to/jail > > (based on a quick source scan, untested). Thanks for your answer, it worked great! But, I'm still wondering why this is necessary? I didn't have to do this last time. Thanks for the info, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 18:04:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6661065676 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D148FC1A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6928C7E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:04:16 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:04:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org> <20090504054840inode@frozen-zone.org> <49FEF42E.30700@rakupottery.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <49FEF42E.30700@rakupottery.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905052004.15000.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Martin Smith Subject: Re: Apache errors. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:04:21 -0000 On Monday 04 May 2009 15:57:02 Martin Smith wrote: > Armin Pirkovitsch wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Have you tried to recompile the port from which that library came? > > (pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3 should help you finding > > the correct port if you do not know which port that is) > > > > Armin > > > > On Sun 03 May 2009, Jeff Molofee wrote: > >> Just started getting this.. can anyone tell me how to fix it? > >> > >> Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration: > >> httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: > >> Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: > >> /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol > >> "libintl_bindtextdomain" > > Now I have the same problem so I went to recompile avahi-app, did rmconfig > and then make config, it said no user config options, or something very > similar. > So where to now? Rebuild gettext, then avahi. The bindtextdomain is from gettext. If that don't help, disable mod_dnssd and ping avahi/apache maintainers. Most users don't need this module. It is used to advertise your http server to the local network, just in case you have it on another port. gnome-user-share and as such x11/gnome2 finds it necessary to install this stuff. Only way to get rid of it, seems to be to install gnome2-lite and then pick what extras you do want. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 18:10:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1838E1065676 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9EB8FC0C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7037E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:10:27 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:10:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl> In-Reply-To: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Jeroen Hofstee Subject: Re: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www projects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:10:29 -0000 On Saturday 02 May 2009 14:50:14 Jeroen Hofstee wrote: > I tried to find a program which could scan the local filesystem and > extract a lists of well known > web projects (yoomla, wordpress etc), extract the installed version > number and match it against > a database of known vulnerabilities. Similiar to portaudit, but then for > the standard scripts users > install themselves. I was unable to find such a program in the ports. > > Does such an utilities exists for FreeBSD ? Not that I'm aware of and it's hell to write and keep current. There's 2 good policies for this kind of thing: - Don't allow any plugins of any kind to be installed via CMS/Gallery software etc. and deal with the complaints - Put them in a seperate jail and make sure client understands he's responsible for getting hacked and loosing hours of work by installing unsafe plugins. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 18:23:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC82106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E7A8FC13 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 26499 invoked from network); 5 May 2009 18:23:42 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 May 2009 18:23:41 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 56E4C5084A; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:23:37 -0400 (EDT) To: Eddie Chen References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:23:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Eddie Chen's message of "Mon\, 4 May 2009 11\:24\:48 -0400") Message-ID: <44tz3z4dee.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:23:43 -0000 Eddie Chen writes: > I am looking of implementing FTP return code checking after a command > is issued > If the FTP command return "code" not equal from return code to be > check, EXIT 255. > > Command: "? nnn". Where "nnn" is the return code to be check. I'm afraid that I don't understand your question. Are you looking for an FTP client that will provide specific return codes for specific errors? Are you looking for the error codes for a specific FTP client? Are you looking for help scripting your use of an FTP client? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 18:25:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2ED11065672 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A2E8FC24 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC617E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 10:25:37 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:25:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <49FC10DE.9000401@isafeelin.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905052025.36255.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Frederique Rijsdijk , nf Subject: Re: Poor ZFS performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:25:39 -0000 On Monday 04 May 2009 02:07:41 nf wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk > > wrote: > > nf wrote: > >> 733843456 bytes transferred in 61.124812 secs (12005656 bytes/sec) > > > > That is very low. I get about 60MB/sec in this way. Adding bs=1m it'll go > > up to 240MB/sec even (raidz1 with 4*1TB). > > > > Could you show top -S ? > > I will, the next time I experience the issue. > > I had already rebooted the box, which immediately alleviated the > issue. I can only presume, at this point, that it seems to have been > related to the 2gb of allocated/active memory shown by top. I had no > memory intensive apps running, merely an idle lighttpd, mysqld, and > rtorrent (which only occupied about 90mb). There's a thread or 2 on -current list about ZFS arc cache growth, that you may or may not be seeing as well. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 18:33:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5F0106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D978FC19 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 5721 invoked from network); 5 May 2009 18:33:27 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 May 2009 18:33:27 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 85A7E5084A; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:33:22 -0400 (EDT) To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:33:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> (Marc Coyles's message of "Tue\, 5 May 2009 10\:39\:27 +0100") Message-ID: <44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump snapshot issue... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:33:29 -0000 "Marc Coyles" writes: > I've got a script that dumps various filesystems to tape for me, but > I've always had an issue whenever I've used the -L option... see below: > > /usr/bin/mt rewind > /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 / > dump: Cannot create //.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory > > /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /home > mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error > dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory > > /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /tmp > dump: Cannot create /tmp/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory > > /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /usr > dump: Cannot create /usr/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory > > /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /var > dump: Cannot create /var/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory > > /usr/bin/mt rewind > > > The .snap folders exist at all points, are set to root:operator, with > perms 770... > The dump_snapshot files seem to be present, albeit 0 bytes, > root:operator, perms 400... > > Running 7.0-RELEASE-p11... > > Any suggestions? Wow. That's strange. I've never seen anything like it. One thing you should try is to remove the dump_snapshot files, because they are supposed to be unlinked when the dump starts anyway, so they shouldn't be sticking around. Also, look for file flags on the directories, or ACLs, etc. And consider the permissions you're running dump with. Good luck. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 18:47:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD611065672 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EA48FC1E for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA87130DB7; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:47:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89C05130DB4; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:47:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD850F8D07; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:47:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A0089B9.7050201@isafeelin.org> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:47:21 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Underwood References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Shopping for external harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:47:26 -0000 Daniel Underwood wrote: > I'm looking to purchase a >= 1TB external harddrive, because I'm > running out of room on my 300GB external. Anyone have good experience > with any particular brands? I really don't know how different brands > compare in reliability to one another. Of course I plan to check CNet > and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks > have personal recommendations. > 1TB samsung USB drive, use it for backups. The drive is an "ECO" version, spinning at 5400rpm. That keeps the temperature down. Works nicely. -- F From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 18:35:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F641065670 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (posta.ihlasnet.com.tr [213.238.128.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F6B8FC15 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 18:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net) Received: (qmail 28691 invoked by uid 89); 5 May 2009 21:35:32 +0300 Received: from ihlasnetym (HELO desktop2002) (yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net@213.238.150.220) by pop3.ihlas.net.tr with SMTP; 5 May 2009 21:35:32 +0300 Message-ID: <4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop2002> From: =?utf-8?Q?Yavuz_Ma=C5=9Flak?= To: References: <20090505165621inode@frozen-zone.org> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:35:22 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:02:11 +0000 Subject: Re: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 18:35:35 -0000 First I am sorry writing folders instead of files. as far as I see diff command compares differences line by line between 2 files That's to say, File a orange blue yellow File b yellow blue orange diff --suppress-common-lines -w -y a b orange < blue < > blue > orange as above you see, A and B files contains the same strings but their's lines are different I wish diff or another command not to display same values which are in different lines. > First of all I suppose you're talking about 2 files, not folders. > In which case the command you're using isn't looking so bad since it > shows the differences between file "a" and file "b": > > > diff --suppress-common-lines -w -y a b > abcde | xyasz > > But since you do not seem to be happy with the output - what should it > look like? > > Armin > > On Tue 05 May 2009, Yavuz MaÅŸlak wrote: > >> I have two folders which contains some expressions in everyline as >> following; >> File A: >> abcde >> 12345 >> etc. >> >> File B: >> xyzas >> 12345 >> etc >> >> As above some strings are same and some strings are different. >> There are several differents between these two files. >> >> When I run diff command "diff --suppress-common-lines -y -w file1 file2 > >> fileresult" like I couldn't result right. >> How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? >> >> Which command do I need to use ? > > -- > Armin Pirkovitsch > a.pirko@inode.at > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 19:08:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A84106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74F28FC0C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8956B7E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:07:59 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:07:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <26b281ee0905010712n67847ad9v3cd47d85fc34974d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26b281ee0905010712n67847ad9v3cd47d85fc34974d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905052107.57923.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Seur Bors Subject: Re: kernel errors - watchdog timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:08:01 -0000 On Friday 01 May 2009 16:12:50 Seur Bors wrote: > I'm constantly getting the following repeated in my /var/log/messages: > > kernel: re0: watchdog timeout > kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN > kernel: re0: link state changed to UP > > This was happening right from the get-go on new hardware running > 7.1-Release-p4, but only happened infrequently. Apparently as well, > although everything seems to be working, the server seems to be responding > very sluggish (over 10 minutes to work with a 1MB file through a Samba > share, no exageration on the time). > > Can someone point me to required reading for these types of networking > errors? DIAGNOSTICS ... re(4): re%d: watchdog timeout The device has stopped responding to the network, or there is a problem with the network connection (cable). In short: cable or hardware. If you're sure this is not the case, you should file a PR and mention you switched out cables and (if possible) the card. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 19:13:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E957D106567A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92668FC18 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F647E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 11:13:00 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:12:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <200904292132.n3TLWaYo090885@asarian-host.net> In-Reply-To: <200904292132.n3TLWaYo090885@asarian-host.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905052112.59218.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:13:02 -0000 On Wednesday 29 April 2009 23:32:37 Mark wrote: > I should have looked better, instead of just picking the highest-version > > server. Still, makes you wonder, if the postgresql84-server port is so > > incredibly broken, why even include it? It's a "repo copy stub" for the forthcoming release, that the maintainer really should've marked as broken, until he and PostgreSQL is done with it. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 19:20:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE1E106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C7A8FC12 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n45JJetC028955; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:19:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 75E3010D87C; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:19:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2848810D89A; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:19:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 5 May 2009 14:19:29 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:18:52 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBAE@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? Thread-Index: AcnNtBj7nYrT1uU2T8Sb0zLlGZJbigAAjphO From: "Gary Gatten" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2009 19:19:29.0687 (UTC) FILETIME=[69A40A70:01C9CDB6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? 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Tue, 05 May 2009 12:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:23:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:23:34 -0000 Just installed 7.2-RELEASE. After changing my /etc/ttys to default to xdm and rebooting, my machine opens xdm, but I cannot type or press enter. My keyboard isn't totally unresponsive, however, because I can Ctrl+Alt+F# to another virtual terminal. Any ideas? Thanks, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 19:43:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B861065672 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296A88FC1B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BC1130DBB; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:43:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38E7C130DB4; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:43:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE36F8FB5; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:43:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A0096C4.2040609@isafeelin.org> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:43:00 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Underwood References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:43:03 -0000 Hi, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Just installed 7.2-RELEASE. After changing my /etc/ttys to default to > xdm and rebooting, my machine opens xdm, but I cannot type or press > enter. My keyboard isn't totally unresponsive, however, because I can > Ctrl+Alt+F# to another virtual terminal. Try adding: Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" .. to the "ServerLayout" section of your xorg.conf, see if that helps. See man xorg.conf too. -- Frederique From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 19:53:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C129106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0C28FC21 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so73308fxm.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 12:53:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6AJWBdoxIFdyvQJaPhFs1jlJ07llsXT9hq36Q8tJK9o=; b=TkIhiBuGCBRoCMGV6d6aPJzNQmRFdpM6t80omjuaE17suUuHX3M4iWN93cMJB2M86U d+0vvlQiVBqwNJJaARz8ya2Bvo3bZFl2t0fyoPIUN3NlIR3bSzIpk/5ncu7LZG8EpQtJ SO1+ur1u3fiMpy424VMR9LlmepC+DFPtgzH90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TDNFwDNGZwvepUebkxnZ3s3z/ZKOPG5pRbtJcLP5uQx7b7bvcjPRYUfonNs01+9R2Q WaWgS7VLrT07WTYQhHx2n7paXO73RItWSE8AOoGfLtv8+8cPbc8hpTyEkd/RcNx4uHkj OwLrGbfuCvpd/FvjGlMYO8Wq7Sc2WkZyTzfig= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.102.18 with SMTP id e18mr82402mum.82.1241553191070; Tue, 05 May 2009 12:53:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A0096C4.2040609@isafeelin.org> References: <4A0096C4.2040609@isafeelin.org> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:53:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Frederique Rijsdijk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:53:12 -0000 I don't have an xorg.conf file. When I installed 7.1-RELEASE on this laptop (exact same machine) I didn't need to configure an xorg.conf file. But I'll certainly try your advice. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 19:56:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DB9106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0168FC13 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 19:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8843D1DB; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:56:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n45JuC0V001477; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:56:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:56:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Yavuz =?UTF-8?Q?Ma=C5=9Flak?= Message-Id: <20090505215611.c074b710.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop2002> References: <20090505165621inode@frozen-zone.org> <4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop2002> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 19:56:14 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:35:22 +0300, Yavuz MaÅŸlak wrote: > First I am sorry writing folders instead of files. Directories. FreeBSD has directories and files. Please try to use the correct terminology. > I wish diff or another command not to display same values which are in > different lines. You could first run the files through sort, then diff them. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 20:15:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397C5106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3188FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4817381bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:15:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hETuiJ5lUhIYjKvd6gXBaiotks++KVspQkgz+M+zQKo=; b=ZNhmqWOdExxmmWofV9DcALxN8NstwnIVMhpg4iSr73+DLbAgj1c3wNR6yMC+Vb6SJL TKqWq/FraSUT3D2/kbIf6i6y1OM8U6XfTWGyqqqvZpmWeivSBxloB1FrnmEqSMK4Fgk6 m8+u2OD3XC8K21RzFiBXIusRdfJCmpZjp/O38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=CKreqVGdmufwceH5GlwpNlMnXxmKQI+3BdqeUgS7XplKcslamyv49KxtWrmMnx7TZw hY8AF1vUSK+yHko6X0rYa1LLQZtKXvRpB3WP49vyFG+3QWfFNAGkUkoNAgf6mvKW8Nz/ MsQzoFt05MagwaVMrzuVmsY4jJxG1u3lmpzcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.117.1 with SMTP id o1mr111949faq.96.1241554537429; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:15:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:15:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:15:40 -0000 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Just installed 7.2-RELEASE. After changing my /etc/ttys to default to > xdm and rebooting, my machine opens xdm, but I cannot type or press > enter. My keyboard isn't totally unresponsive, however, because I can > Ctrl+Alt+F# to another virtual terminal. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Could you use your mouse in xdm? I don't know if this is related; but I couldn't get my mouse to work in KDE or XFCE4 until I turned on hal. I added the following to /etc/rc.conf and rebooted: dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" Best of luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 20:17:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327B9106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B006E8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4818883bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:17:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fbGf0HpPthLnNPnAy3gjFkNV5hlGAoROAm/3VwkOuR8=; b=YG5RUTh3KauIqKJqlKJYBR98BNK27Qwuc5Kz6DAg/BuH9akLGlxFRDqPQhuUx/nrK0 gOZK2Gj3bGI1AUhj6qDMB8+vXWt9oJJ+TuO3xiVM6qMu4eZcfuCQawSNV26eSBPXR1wr 5oq6TRIHx++b4g2oSERCVZthXAOCbAASIK7IU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nz7sPj2+fr7aM+6ZzVS4zVzeVO35j7RP/xQ5JNA2Btc5TSnJB52wBmCU0tQburRdgX GeGtgQPvdXirBytFx7ScMgJz9by0JkWGRfFZ9Hqm/qC76gR+dp3q1z7zblcnnkP3ZLsq wDZhfiV1a6rwKChqYfzp8sRBvkXjfKhWSzRf0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.174.16 with SMTP id b16mr363968mup.28.1241554675537; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:17:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:17:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Andrew Gould Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:17:57 -0000 Yep, that was it! I should have read the Handbook more thoroughly: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html#AEN6615 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 20:19:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AA3106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4028FC2D for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so91080fxm.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:19:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rpaaap64nOIip/giyQljJQ6YdPYX00Sp2GD4x+Y7IGU=; b=p2tBsVM5IyJk7ObVMgkp2YQfOQQIZ6nP6Gd6Hs9NsLpuMIFloj6feUGWBazuwQLE1e EvyCwmBFmhYRmkIKUBmEKmXfbpCQ2c643fEkytcT6bJFYhbv1ebFc8C1RotXZ+GVQ+7W WXOcugkY6tKvP4iii4xMEuV6pJkZmhSGfnEuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ucesFQlKvvIDhHqFQyB/rb484neALml7afvIC8Od+W8W9rGGGDcKCbr4N9y21eVX6J ZPQuqkUqgJ3b33UyfXgpr0lZqNOY2roYiFK9E7nVKgF99dxqoWddWE6oEIcg/K63VCEa Dkq0NawtWwxK/67h6N9toGNwXoVdu1O7Av9fo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.145 with SMTP id c17mr551182fas.102.1241554791774; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:19:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:19:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:19:53 -0000 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Yep, that was it! I should have read the Handbook more thoroughly: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html#AEN6615 > me too ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 20:20:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33C010656B9 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7126A8FC1B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n45KK25H035562; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:20:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n45KK25H035562 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1241554808; bh=ZNh3S6yx61nz6LfoC25s4RSwrvs8/BMUE8u6S0lGdJI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A009F6C.80009@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue ,=2005=20May=202009=2021:19:56=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Polytropon=20|CC:=20=3D?UTF-8?B?W WF2dXogTWHFn2xhaw=3D=3D?=3D=20,=20=0 D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20How=20can=20 I=20extract=20differences=20between=202=20folders=20?|References:= 20=09<20090505165621 inode@frozen-zone.org>=09<4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop 2002>=20<20090505215611.c074b710.freebsd@edvax.de>|In-Reply-To:=20 <20090505215611.c074b710.freebsd@edvax.de>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200 .95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B =0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundar y=3D"------------enig73426746DA36369EF88EE6DD"; b=LmoYIiOTZcjJ2yY3xtG3nyge7qryGJIDB+hg+dX7bUZDpROkWoApi2N3vymJRXWLH 3QWWi3jt2ZWaPOaHS/ZF5f7RHH2FnEOdQuaEArAyQxruZuixXLkrAxznlwQlApAOAx X4jFr0Zgh7DTIwZXO8yJj3wsCaMARYqg+702OboM= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A009F6C.80009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:19:56 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20090505165621inode@frozen-zone.org> <4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop2002> <20090505215611.c074b710.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090505215611.c074b710.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig73426746DA36369EF88EE6DD" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: =?UTF-8?B?WWF2dXogTWHFn2xhaw==?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:20:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig73426746DA36369EF88EE6DD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:35:22 +0300, Yavuz Ma=C5=9Flak wrote: >> I wish diff or another command not to display same values which are in= =20 >> different lines. >=20 > You could first run the files through sort, then diff them. Rather than diff(1), perhaps comm(1) is a better choice. You still need = to sort the input files though: % sort file1 > file1.sorted % sort file2 > file2.sorted % comm -3 file1.sorted file2.sorted This will print two columns of output. The first column consists of line= s that are only in file1, and the second of lines that are only in file2. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig73426746DA36369EF88EE6DD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkoAn3IACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwUnACeITunf8MdVUhK0Sdl/sKRYdAq gjMAn27ZV40HW9WTB3ak2KOB2cNQBzse =VwX8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig73426746DA36369EF88EE6DD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 20:41:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786DD10656F5 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: from mail.virtualhost.nl (mail.virtualhost.nl [89.200.201.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F168FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: (qmail 31098 invoked from network); 5 May 2009 22:41:11 +0200 Received: from ip120-12-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl (HELO ?192.168.1.7?) (87.208.12.120) by mail.virtualhost.nl with SMTP; 5 May 2009 22:41:11 +0200 Message-ID: <4A00A467.9060506@virtualhost.nl> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:41:11 +0200 From: Jeroen Hofstee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl> <200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www projects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:41:15 -0000 Mel Flynn schreef: > On Saturday 02 May 2009 14:50:14 Jeroen Hofstee wrote: > >> I tried to find a program which could scan the local filesystem and >> extract a lists of well known web projects (joomla, wordpress etc) > Not that I'm aware of and it's hell to write and keep current. > k, pitty. Although user can be jailed, it is still a bit unconfortable experience for users if their website looks somewhat different then they are used to; or their message board suddenly contains 20000 additional post, albeit due to their own lack of maintaining the scripts behind it. A reminder that their script has known vulnerabities would therefore be nice, even if it doesn't pose a direct risk to the system as a whole. Most of these open source projects are in the ports, so the portaudit db will contain vulnerability information for them. If I find time, I will have a look if it is possible to match against that db. Jeroen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 21:01:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8AA106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B958FC15 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4471802.home.otenet.gr [94.71.123.234]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n45L1lpo029107; Wed, 6 May 2009 00:01:47 +0300 Message-ID: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:01:47 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Underwood , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:01:50 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > > >> Yep, that was it! I should have read the Handbook more thoroughly: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html#AEN6615 >> >> > > > me too ;-) > Taking this opportunity, allow me to remind to everyone that the Handbook is always "work in progress" and it is always useful to check again sections that you have already read, as new info is added regularly. This latest addition to the Handbook was in fact inspired by questions and info appearing on this same list :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 21:04:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B37106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107328FC0A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547557E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:04:30 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 23:04:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904301202n1edaea1du5bba7e8b34266d70@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905052304.28141.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: VeeJay Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:04:32 -0000 On Thursday 30 April 2009 21:49:13 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi, VeeJay-- > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:02 PM, VeeJay wrote: > > Guys, I am not very good on freebsd, its you guys who help me to > > keeping my > > server up... I hope you can spare a few minutes to sort this > > problem... > > > > last pid: 19656; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, > > 1.00 > > up 2+05:00:12 19:18:47 > > 3049 processes:2 running, 3047 sleeping > > CPU: 12.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 87.4% idle > > Mem: 6253M Active, 3810M Inact, 921M Wired, 128K Cache, 214M Buf, > > 4683M Free > > Swap: 32G Total, 32G Free > > > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU > > COMMAND > > 830 mysql 1500 44 0 1670M 813M ucond 1 0:00 100.00% > > mysqld > > It sure looks like you're running into a system limit with the maximum > # of threads available to the mysql process. There's no such limit, see pthread_create(3) and pthread.h: #define PTHREAD_THREADS_MAX __ULONG_MAX but the 1500 is suspicious. Suspicious enough to be a MySQL configuration value or compile time option. The only way to get to the bottom of it, is to watch the number of threads in the mysql process and attach ktrace to it the moment it approaches 1500, to see if pthread_create actually does return EAGAIN and get a hint as to where. My suspicion however is that the thread abstraction of MySQL sets EAGAIN. A my.cnf certainly would help. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 21:07:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA9B106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@wcubed.net) Received: from mail.datausa.com (mail.datausa.com [216.150.220.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D77E8FC1E for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@wcubed.net) Received: (qmail 34085 invoked by uid 89); 5 May 2009 15:06:35 -0600 Received: from c-76-25-231-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net (HELO ?10.0.1.137?) (76.25.231.251) by mail.datausa.com with SMTP; 5 May 2009 15:06:35 -0600 Message-ID: <4A00AA73.8080101@wcubed.net> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:06:59 -0600 From: Brad Waite User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081209 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.19 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: watchdog questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:07:15 -0000 I need some help understanding FreeBSD's kernel watchdog functionality. I've been reading up, and here's what I think I understand (correct me if I'm wrong): If a watchdog timer is set in the kernel and not reset or disabled within the time given, the kernel reboots the system. 'watchdog -t ' starts a watchdog for n seconds. Runing watchdog(8) again in Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751821065675 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406C78FC18 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA337E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:13:49 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 23:13:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl> <200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A009BCB.9070700@virtualhost.nl> In-Reply-To: <4A009BCB.9070700@virtualhost.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905052313.47805.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Jeroen Hofstee Subject: Re: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www projects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:13:51 -0000 On Tuesday 05 May 2009 22:04:27 Jeroen Hofstee wrote: > Mel Flynn schreef: > > On Saturday 02 May 2009 14:50:14 Jeroen Hofstee wrote: > >> I tried to find a program which could scan the local filesystem and > >> extract a lists of well known web projects (joomla, wordpress etc) > > > > Not that I'm aware of and it's hell to write and keep current. > > k, pitty. Although user can be jailed, it is still a bit unconfortable > experience for users if their website looks > somewhat different then they are used to; or their message board > suddenly contains 20000 additional post, > albeit due to their own lack of maintaining the scripts behind it. A > reminder that their script has known > vulnerabities would therefore be nice, even if it doesn't pose a direct > risk to the system as a whole. I understand the problem. > Most of these open source projects are in the ports, so the portaudit db > will contain vulnerability information > for them. If I find time, I will have a look if it is possible to match > against that db. You can do that, the issue is plugins: 0) SuperCMS v 1.0 installed 1) CoolStuff via webinterface, by SuperCMSNr1Fan, version 0.1.0.1beta 2) SuperCMS v 1.0.1 security release, changes some issues with plugin handling 3) CoolStuff's maintainer is now known as CompetitorCMSNr1Fan 4) CoolStuff still works, because of backwards compatibility, but now is insecure. Stuff like this goes back to the phpNukeYourSite days. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 21:26:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858EF106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=369c43e01=echen@nyx.com) Received: from CHMAILGW02.tradearca.com (chmailgw02.nyx.com [198.140.49.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5AE8FC16 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=369c43e01=echen@nyx.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,299,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="77134990" Received: from nysecorpsmtp01.corp.nyse.com (HELO nysecorpsmtp01.nyse.com) ([159.125.152.166]) by CHMAILGW02-int.tradearca.com with ESMTP; 05 May 2009 15:56:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <44tz3z4dee.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Eddie Chen Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:56:46 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NYSECORPSMTP01/NYSE(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 05/05/2009 04:56:48 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:26:01 -0000 Lowell, I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code. However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing it. It's actually trivial to implement this feature. If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client. Thanks. Lowell Gilbert Eddie Chen cc 05/05/2009 freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org 02:23 PM Subject Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Please respond to freebsd-questions @FreeBSD.org Eddie Chen writes: > I am looking of implementing FTP return code checking after a command > is issued > If the FTP command return "code" not equal from return code to be > check, EXIT 255. > > Command: "? nnn". Where "nnn" is the return code to be check. I'm afraid that I don't understand your question. Are you looking for an FTP client that will provide specific return codes for specific errors? Are you looking for the error codes for a specific FTP client? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 21:47:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAC5106566C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24AA8FC08 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-35-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.35.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n45Llds7049262 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:47:38 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090419) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: What is the highest hard drive read/write speed you were able to achieve by entire disk mirroring or striping? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:47:40 -0000 I am seeing 85MB/s as a speed of a single Hitachi 1TB HD. How high can you go by mirroring or striping 2, 3, 4 harddrives? Any experiences? Thank you, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 21:55:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5E0106567C for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437808FC1A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n45Ltf9u015923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:55:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n45Ltfmi064987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:55:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n45LtdNa064975; Tue, 5 May 2009 16:55:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:55:39 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Maxim Khitrov Message-ID: <20090505215539.GE3371@dan.emsphone.com> References: <26ddd1750905051039y67bed9a5g6e1419b57b9e74fe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750905051039y67bed9a5g6e1419b57b9e74fe@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 05 May 2009 16:55:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Measuring CPU usage via SNMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:55:43 -0000 In the last episode (May 05), Maxim Khitrov said: > Simple question - does the sum of differences in ssCpuRawIdle, > ssCpuRawUser, ssCpuRawNice, ssCpuRawKernel, and ssCpuRawInterrupt OIDs on > a FreeBSD 7.2 system give me total CPU allocation (i.e. is a constant)? > I've configured a few scripts to read these values from bsnmpd, store them > via rrdtool, and then generate a single graph with idle on the negative y > axis and everything else stacked on top. I want to make sure that no > other counter is missing from this ensemble and the ones listed do not > overlap. If either of those conditions is not met, my usage percent > calculation will not be accurate. > > The OIDs that I left out are: > > ssCpuRawSoftIRQ - documentation states that this is for Linux only, > but FreeBSD 7.2 does provide a value for it > ssCpuRawWait - always 0? > ssCpuRawSystem - seems to be a sum of ssCpuRawKernel and ssCpuRawInterrupt > > As far as I can tell, these three do not factor into the equation. The > only one I'm not sure about is ssCpuRawSystem. Is there ever a time when > it will not equal to ssCpuRawKernel + ssCpuRawInterrupt? The nice thing about open source software is you can read the source and see what's going on :) The FreeBSD kernel statclock() function: http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/kern/kern_clock.c#L442 updates the cp_time[] array, and it increments one of CP_NICE, CP_USER, CP_INTR, CP_SYS, and CP_IDLE on each tick. The Net-SNMP var_extensible_vmstat() function: http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/net-snmp/trunk/net-snmp/agent/mibgroup/ucd-snmp/vmstat_freebsd2.c?revision=HEAD&view=markup#l_165 fetches that array and maps those indexes to CPURAWNICE, CPURAWUSER, CPURAWINTR, CPURAWKERNEL, and CPURAWIDLE. So fetching the matching ssCpuRaw* oids and totaling them up should always equal 100% cpu. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 21:57:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D03E1065680 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06798FC20 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4471802.home.otenet.gr [94.71.123.234]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n45LvCMt019042; Wed, 6 May 2009 00:57:13 +0300 Message-ID: <4A00B638.9080400@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:57:12 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the highest hard drive read/write speed you were able to achieve by entire disk mirroring or striping? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:57:15 -0000 Yuri wrote: > I am seeing 85MB/s as a speed of a single Hitachi 1TB HD. > How high can you go by mirroring or striping 2, 3, 4 harddrives? > > Any experiences? > > Thank you, > Yuri > Highly unscientific measurement here, but I seem to be getting a max of ~160 MB/s by striping two Seagate 500Gb drives. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 22:15:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA08D1065690 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 22:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: from mail.virtualhost.nl (mail.virtualhost.nl [89.200.201.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A978FC13 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 22:15:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: (qmail 46132 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 00:15:08 +0200 Received: from ip120-12-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl (HELO ?192.168.1.7?) (87.208.12.120) by mail.virtualhost.nl with SMTP; 6 May 2009 00:15:08 +0200 Message-ID: <4A00BA6C.2070307@virtualhost.nl> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:15:08 +0200 From: Jeroen Hofstee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl> <200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A009BCB.9070700@virtualhost.nl> <200905052313.47805.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200905052313.47805.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www projects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:15:11 -0000 Mel Flynn schreef: > You can do that, the issue is plugins: > 0) SuperCMS v 1.0 installed > 1) CoolStuff via webinterface, by SuperCMSNr1Fan, version 0.1.0.1beta > 2) SuperCMS v 1.0.1 security release, changes some issues with plugin > handling > 3) CoolStuff's maintainer is now known as CompetitorCMSNr1Fan > 4) CoolStuff still works, because of backwards compatibility, but now > is insecure. > > Stuff like this goes back to the phpNukeYourSite days. > I understand that there are allot of caveats and that is quite some work to create a full blown checker, especially with plugins. But as far as I am corcerned, finding the easy to locate vultnerable script is already better then doing nothing. Jeroen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 23:24:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21411065691 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 23:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701918FC29 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 23:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195803D08B; Wed, 6 May 2009 01:24:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n45NOScL003731; Wed, 6 May 2009 01:24:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 01:24:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manolis Kiagias Message-Id: <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr> References: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Andrew Gould , Daniel Underwood , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 23:24:40 -0000 On Wed, 06 May 2009 00:01:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Taking this opportunity, allow me to remind to everyone that the > Handbook is always "work in progress" and it is always useful to check > again sections that you have already read, as new info is added > regularly. This latest addition to the Handbook was in fact inspired by > questions and info appearing on this same list :) A very polite addition of mine: It's always wise to study /usr/ports/UPDATING, a file that explains the reasons when your system suddenly went nuts. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 23:32:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA32C1065673 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 23:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4269C8FC16 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 23:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so2089706mue.3 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:32:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jwem4jE1JzZjReaOkR16FLxRkhb4gTHR2CsT6K6D8G4=; b=jzE/lVp5J3b3BZ8KDiE4G/u+3IqCSXAJsRNAdEwe2aJn3tOllR36ixgnn2Iu+qunsf cy4JWONXnj9Dkw11O2NOa/VvD3J48W8D/Wx7cOKd32aNp+7WlBfjgYP76enq+Ac6Ycjs kCyEJ1xla/Vi3ksmubfLk5obnLyLocBZBQ+ak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N6Gx1C6cj2hBVwxqUUY/AEnBjyAfYVjJy3/yvqyMnR5Dv5741YyEuGxQR2kREftpAR QrH8sDBWhU7AP7pd9YYX9TI5dlNgi9N9AZddOS6Z1ejQbNzxp7EgWuc2Of8tynO9qAYV MOwkcI6RoBxe92ySdVnBKE57D1+pXuT+wtSng= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.168.5 with SMTP id v5mr469837muo.77.1241566374895; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:32:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr> <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:32:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Andrew Gould , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 23:32:57 -0000 I thought /usr/ports/UPDATING is only created when you appraise your ports with a view toward updating. I.e, after a fresh install of 7.2 (not an upgrade from 7.1), I didn't think the UPDATING file would be very helpful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 23:45:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4C4106566B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 23:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9DE8FC21 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 23:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4918140bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:45:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4ZF4lSTujR1m13t0nL8YgRE69HEOaahyAkVhUxURt4k=; b=c8CDTcxLMMqy3osFpJBJKMyfkTfdKlXt1UKI8iVLl16HMMulC7T6mReEUgMtTbwvfZ CVdHDsLG49W7y5GyZGKh7jVD4Nyp8GC/7/5P+Fpj7HQpR6uD/eZL+5VBnyJtw2rL3g0S XcfS7YO+V2cohsI5B1oi7pTKMyCAmdpRsxmGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TGH994hsU/O9KLhnOlrPGYA8V52xBHLWbS3EI48CEV3qCctbbfGC0UOGyWZT7ZfLJ7 GHX2FIO7/PVPdhA+6BJ7G4V0bxNq9YVwb3japSEBvfaBq7C6QUh6z6kd3OId4C3Cklsr fsHsu2WXOve5MDTF6i5J/xH0gMP0zV00wHBYU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.123.210 with SMTP id q18mr645090far.63.1241567102768; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:45:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr> <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:45:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 23:45:04 -0000 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > I thought /usr/ports/UPDATING is only created when you appraise your > ports with a view toward updating. I.e, after a fresh install of 7.2 > (not an upgrade from 7.1), I didn't think the UPDATING file would be > very helpful. > It's good, general advice. There are UPDATING files in various places for various updates, I think, including /usr/src/. It's almost as good as.....(wait for it)......" and always back up your data." (That one never gets old!) :-) Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 5 23:53:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEC8106564A for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 23:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4234F8FC1B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 23:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so4111057rvb.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:53:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=VeGPM8k5ai9m6jcuoSGhj2czQtpECAoeGzeikXwh4iU=; b=fzczZaft8knObeeOx9jLxncPMrpHtUgwcZw6xSBe3bfw9c2zyPs+kpzx39cRP0EbHZ YdjBbmUfIOf3h0ZPLrcklOWxMnoY4d/f+l4gtNtuNCyFqd17eXouLN/AmACbKJ3GPpq0 B5+b/glXBJoy3MlHIBjyg2XtLjE9RY8dYmQXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=cbQ5JDnYB67rhmB5y6ZAB6HYSyZGdi+MQu5nbTIhEspBqw2JZx1gI0fcueRXthiuIl osYR0U76GN7rgT3+0+ZHIYznTedyv8eJJAtDZZuq/EGKRw130IOz9bL8iEdL2TT4uyo5 Zvab9Fsi7RSChmiPvXF/oa4vpqvETh1F5siJ8= Received: by 10.140.173.17 with SMTP id v17mr202609rve.3.1241567627406; Tue, 05 May 2009 16:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.103.60.16? ([32.131.83.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm19637459rvb.46.2009.05.05.16.53.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 05 May 2009 16:53:46 -0700 (PDT) References: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr> <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: <446D16A7-AF69-405C-913D-9EFA304E9616@gmail.com> From: Daniel Underwood To: Andrew Gould In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:53:36 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 23:53:48 -0000 Absolutely! (Sent from my iPhone) On May 5, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Andrew Gould wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Daniel Underwood > wrote: > I thought /usr/ports/UPDATING is only created when you appraise your > ports with a view toward updating. I.e, after a fresh install of 7.2 > (not an upgrade from 7.1), I didn't think the UPDATING file would be > very helpful. > > It's good, general advice. There are UPDATING files in various > places for various updates, I think, including /usr/src/. > > It's almost as good as.....(wait for it)......" and always back up > your data." > > (That one never gets old!) > > :-) > > Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 00:22:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A811E106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 00:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AE98FC0C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 00:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBC13D127; Wed, 6 May 2009 02:22:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n460Lv0I004303; Wed, 6 May 2009 02:21:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 02:21:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Andrew Gould Message-Id: <20090506022157.57174896.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr> <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Polytropon , Daniel Underwood , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:22:04 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:45:02 -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: > It's good, general advice. There are UPDATING files in various places for > various updates, I think, including /usr/src/. At least according to the history of problems with X that appeared on this list, /usr/ports/UPDATING hasn't received the attention it should. Things like the "empty inputs" and the crazy DBUS & HAL stuff has been mentioned there. I didn't update my X yet, so I will have all this trouble in the future. :-) > It's almost as good as.....(wait for it)......" and always back up your > data." Customer: "I've just done a new Word document, saved it, then accidentally deleted it. Is there anything you can do to get it back?" Tech Support: "Sorry, no, the backup isn't run until night time." Customer: "Ohh, can we restore it tomorrow, then?" :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 00:42:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AE11065675 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 00:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231B88FC1F for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 00:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so92268gxk.19 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 17:42:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lS1iCFu9eP5ALp9lPy0sbKR5nt+DK3D5FH8FwJW2nHs=; b=g1EATfwQs43lK5FJc4e5D6x4vmgs0HKeiAlzXeh5q4mvyuzyRa8aEln1w9sZ+40VYl wAz1Kr0rpethY5ojphk6vKAxXnmqPjoKDM1d+dBzapk+E9/RUehIMqU4rKYt5tVWwMwW q/x+weXdJdYSY6bOONYHxSGkxM0/LZm9mKZUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Q++Im10IpR/q0DzmFIv81UnIHVYAGIO/0QKs6hs203xkE6KYNyfW9e2WCjRE+QL/PF gEKl9ZYmsx3z+/13ICbVkdpPIGL/yQdqehaZS/VN7fUbYEtxIjyN+948m6x3FY10gc1N 0bsEDQUfeAHtZKGgg37JoArxdBtPFy1Y41pQ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.152.12 with SMTP id z12mr457578and.141.1241570567273; Tue, 05 May 2009 17:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:42:47 -0300 Message-ID: From: Agus To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem with edquotas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:42:48 -0000 Hi guys, Im having an issue while trying to use edquota.... I've been using it for months with no problemss... but now when i use it the quota aint assigned.. adn i get no error soo.. i sunno where to start looking.... 6.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: In /home -rw-r--r-- 1 root operator 29G May 5 21:37 quota.user if i use edquota net1 i can add the quotas.. save and then #quota net1 Disk quotas for user net1 (uid 10889): none Any hints appreciatte.... Thanks guys From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 00:56:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DB71065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 00:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891338FC15 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 00:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24098 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 00:56:28 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 May 2009 00:56:27 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD8950824; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 8CC371CDC6; Tue, 5 May 2009 20:56:20 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 20:56:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Eddie Chen's message of "Tue\, 5 May 2009 16\:56\:46 -0400") Message-ID: <44zldrjbgr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Eddie Chen Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:56:34 -0000 Eddie Chen writes: > I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code. > > However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing it. > It's actually trivial to implement this feature. > > If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client. I've never used return codes with ftp(1), but I have used them with fetch(1), which is also part of the base system. Have you tried fetch? If it doesn't meet your needs, can you explain why? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 01:25:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7692106566C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 01:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412328FC12 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 01:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4950573bwz.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 18:25:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Jc15uFXcySYl9lGz840LHLtucL2gBPOAsFmcn57pKeU=; b=WJ6WPIpvkoroSofv0or8BX4gvoR3JHMksdg5bWtP+ef1m0VI0f4GEN6aco1qz5jVXU HBd3w5+UNl47pExn1P5U19MUM3l7qMpFxqfXMy9cWAIskFjI1nvT26nHpR+zj4CIvq6g ounpR7AFrWl1RBmrqRxQC6NgoBQaBRIJqUZ7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=MgE61JEPCDUpc1PuiGAHKB9lJXrTzt3yGjeFSA8EDjxiJc8TxfinAHOqHtUtGoSsM/ k9zN4fq7no+O132vfXun7ymEOSINFQE/2/qddI8npZAwaU0pc6+XGqlJ3mv/hHqt262G 5iQIv8o2YT0Oq4uPKMmP82/GMoctUyGM/2Y1M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.104.140 with SMTP id p12mr684312fao.7.1241573113829; Tue, 05 May 2009 18:25:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090506022157.57174896.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr> <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090506022157.57174896.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:25:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Daniel Underwood , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 01:25:16 -0000 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:45:02 -0500, Andrew Gould > wrote: > > It's good, general advice. There are UPDATING files in various places > for > > various updates, I think, including /usr/src/. > > At least according to the history of problems with X that > appeared on this list, /usr/ports/UPDATING hasn't received > the attention it should. Things like the "empty inputs" and > the crazy DBUS & HAL stuff has been mentioned there. > > I didn't update my X yet, so I will have all this trouble > in the future. :-) > > > > > It's almost as good as.....(wait for it)......" and always back up your > > data." > > Customer: "I've just done a new Word document, saved it, then > accidentally deleted it. Is there anything you can do > to get it back?" > Tech Support: "Sorry, no, the backup isn't run until night time." > Customer: "Ohh, can we restore it tomorrow, then?" > I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry over this one. ;-) > > :-) > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 02:17:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC2E106567A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 02:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388828FC1B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 02:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from Mobile2.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with SMTP id n4623cMp018139; Tue, 5 May 2009 22:03:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: mike@sentex.net To: Brad Waite Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:03:58 -0400 Message-ID: <6nr1051kvjm0gh1inhl7ci88u0e8qcp9nk@4ax.com> References: <4A00AA73.8080101@wcubed.net> In-Reply-To: <4A00AA73.8080101@wcubed.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: watchdog questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 02:17:23 -0000 On Tue, 05 May 2009 15:06:59 -0600, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: > >'watchdog -t ' starts a watchdog for n seconds. Runing watchdog(8) = again in >the watchdog. > >watchdogd(8) either runs stat(2) on /etc, or a user-defined cmd (with = -e), and >resets the watchdog only on a zero exit code. > >There's a few things that aren't clear, though: > >How many watchdog timers can be enabled at a given time? If more than = one, >does a single 'watchdog -t 0' disable all timers? Hi, A single timer. If you want to disable the daemon and disarm it, just kill off the daemon > >Upon timer expiration, can the kernel be configured to do anything OTHER= than >rebooting? Not that I am aware of > >Is it the general idea that watchdog(8) would be run in a script, making= sure >the script doesn't hang? And that watchdogd(8) is run to ensure the = entire >system doesn't hang? Yes, that can be done. One thing we do for some of our embedded devices is use the watchdog facility as a "safe way to reboot" the system. If we detect a state where we should not be in, we do a killall -9 watchdogd ... As as way to ensure the device will reboot. Note, we have everything mounted ro so we dont have to worry about file system issues. Does the platform you are using support hardware watchdogs ? ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 02:54:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9060A1065672 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 02:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640B58FC19 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 02:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M1XHb-0007hQ-M2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 19:54:55 -0700 Message-ID: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:54:55 -0700 (PDT) From: vuthecuong To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: vuthecuong@luvina.net Subject: carefull confirm on using linux_base-fc8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 02:54:56 -0000 Hi all I just did a clean install of freebsd 7.2 final release (I not enable linux compatibility during install). In first boot, I enabled linux compatibilitty with linux_base-fc8 as below= : =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Add linux_enable=3D=E2=80=9DYES=E2=80=9D to /etc/rc.conf. Add compat.linux.osrelease=3D2.6.16 to /etc/sysctl.conf. Add OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=3Df8 to /etc/make.conf. Add this line to /etc/fstab: linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 mkdir -p /usr/compat/linux/proc mount /usr/compat/linux/proc /etc/rc.d/abi start /etc/rc.d/sysctl start cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f8 && make install clean =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D When 'make install clean' in port 'linux_base-f8', I saw that it retrieved files (rpm etc) from=20 fc8 directory on the net. However, when I install net/skype, I saw that it retrieved files (rpm etc) from fc4 on the net (sorry for my bad English). (I still not installed X yet so I cannot very fied my skype will run fine o= r not). So my question is: is it normal or abnormal when 'make install ' retrieved files (rpm etc) from fc4, not from fc8 althought I already enabled linux_base-f8? If it is abnormal, how can I solve it? Thanks and regards --=20 View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/carefull-confirm-on-usi= ng-linux_base-fc8-tp23399213p23399213.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 02:55:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1B71065686 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 02:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2182A8FC19 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 02:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n442MPNj007338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 May 2009 09:22:25 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n442C28A071537; Mon, 4 May 2009 09:12:02 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:12:02 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: andrew@qemg.org In-reply-to: (message from Andrew Wright on Sun, 3 May 2009 10:34:31 -0300 (ADT)) References: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xdvi with amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 02:55:27 -0000 HI Andrew, > Exactly which fonts are you having trouble with? I can tell you > whether I can reproduce the issue under 7.1. Nothing exotic at all: cmr10.300.pk The error message is: $ xdvi memo Note: overstrike characters may be incorrect. >>> xdvi: Wrong number of bits stored: char. 68, font cmr10 $ Any other font will give the same error message for one character or another. Thanks for the help, olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 03:01:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99210106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 03:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168F98FC15 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 03:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n462vPNP032274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:57:25 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n46304bC094059; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:00:04 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:00:04 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200905060300.n46304bC094059@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> (message from Olivier Nicole on Mon, 4 May 2009 09:12:02 +0700 (ICT)) References: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Xdvi with amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:01:10 -0000 Hi, > > Exactly which fonts are you having trouble with? I can tell you > > whether I can reproduce the issue under 7.1. > > Nothing exotic at all: cmr10.300.pk > > The error message is: > > $ xdvi memo > Note: overstrike characters may be incorrect. > >>> xdvi: Wrong number of bits stored: char. 68, font cmr10 > $ > > Any other font will give the same error message for one character or > another. After trying on 7.1 and having the same problem, I resolve to install from the source the latest version of xdvi and the installation went fine. Bests, olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 03:08:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF70106566C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 03:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E278FC15 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 03:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-67-54-107-208.midco.net [208.107.54.67]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 399A31173C4D for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 22:07:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:07:48 -0500 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: carefull confirm on using linux_base-fc8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:08:01 -0000 vuthecuong wrote: > Hi all > I just did a clean install of freebsd 7.2 final release (I not enable linux > compatibility during install). > In first boot, I enabled linux compatibilitty with linux_base-fc8 as below: > ==================================== > Add linux_enable=â€YES†to /etc/rc.conf. > Add compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 to /etc/sysctl.conf. > Add OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 to /etc/make.conf. > Add this line to /etc/fstab: > linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 > mkdir -p /usr/compat/linux/proc > mount /usr/compat/linux/proc > /etc/rc.d/abi start > /etc/rc.d/sysctl start > cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f8 && make install clean > ==================================== > > When 'make install clean' in port 'linux_base-f8', I saw that it retrieved > files (rpm etc) from > fc8 directory on the net. However, when I install net/skype, I saw that it > retrieved files (rpm etc) > from fc4 on the net (sorry for my bad English). > (I still not installed X yet so I cannot very fied my skype will run fine or > not). > So my question is: is it normal or abnormal when 'make install ' retrieved > files (rpm etc) > from fc4, not from fc8 althought I already enabled linux_base-f8? > > If it is abnormal, how can I solve it? > Thanks and regards > > If you intend on using f8, you'll want entries like this in /etc/make.conf USE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 USE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8 OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8 That and other useful information can always be found in /usr/ports/UPDATING From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 03:12:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE6D106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 03:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D6B8FC08 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 03:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M1XYv-0008Sf-Uy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 20:12:49 -0700 Message-ID: <23399321.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:12:49 -0700 (PDT) From: vuthecuong To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: vuthecuong@luvina.net References: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com> <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com> Subject: Re: carefull confirm on using linux_base-fc8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 03:12:51 -0000 vuthecuong wrote: If you intend on using f8, you'll want entries like this in /etc/make.conf USE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 USE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8 OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8 That and other useful information can always be found in /usr/ports/UPDATING /quote> Wow, thanks for very fast reply. I understood that I was still missing some variables in my make.conf as you stated above. Btw I just reconfirmed for sure only: This means, if I installed linux_base-fc8 correctly, when I install net/skype, this port 'must' retrieve rpm files etc from fc8 directory over the net, right? cool thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/carefull-confirm-on-using-linux_base-fc8-tp23399213p23399321.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 05:30:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56841065676 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 05:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8265B8FC27 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 05:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0ED7E837; Tue, 5 May 2009 21:30:12 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:30:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl> <200905052313.47805.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A00B728.3000509@virtualhost.nl> In-Reply-To: <4A00B728.3000509@virtualhost.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905060730.10672.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Jeroen Hofstee Subject: Re: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www projects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 05:30:15 -0000 On Wednesday 06 May 2009 00:01:12 Jeroen Hofstee wrote: > Mel Flynn schreef: > > You can do that, the issue is plugins: > > 0) SuperCMS v 1.0 installed > > 1) CoolStuff via webinterface, by SuperCMSNr1Fan, version 0.1.0.1beta > > 2) SuperCMS v 1.0.1 security release, changes some issues with plugin > > handling 3) CoolStuff's maintainer is now known as CompetitorCMSNr1Fan > > 4) CoolStuff still works, because of backwards compatibility, but now is > > insecure. > > > > Stuff like this goes back to the phpNukeYourSite days. > > I understand that there are allot of caveats and that is quite some work > to create a full blown checker, especially with > plugins. But as far as I am corcerned, finding the easy to locate > vultnerable script is already better then doing nothing. Agreed, as long as the client does not assume you are responsible. Portaudit will go a long way then. Which version of a plugin is installed is not always available in the file system, some store that in the database. To ease your work, you may want to replace custom installed software with the corresponding port if available. This will go for a lot of stuff, including joomla and the various nuke forks. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 06:20:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422EF106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 06:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F08FC18 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 06:20:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so449837ewy.43 for ; Tue, 05 May 2009 23:20:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HhDdi35yqNXb9MvLbS8jr609c6RN1iqj5pDd8dJ/I+A=; b=ao7HZD0IWS7P44+lI4mRAwiTJ7JjbeCMvO7HaRKVWFUIDKXQI8AamWZnDSosVWpE+g S8mC0TM/ID/u8MrfktZ5t6GBa+Xxp4WYzE2k/zosllYXJ1U8CiKctl1U/yu6kT+MCAPe 3A/keb+3KkJK8f0FB7RETG7AV4ATHvv+21awg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aUr2FRGf0floWCFOvi3TqS98YziLLMduupnxsXubTng+1juNDwrHVjK5BwvOWVhL93 +j8bu6uDAnxAZW2qT8KM+fLAI4Vz4o+rN6DTktm19QKvcHfs9U6Y7+tbCYvVrXr5VJWC /usuWYRsfhSC4bGh1OAAkZyHv4jwTJpm9+LJs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.34.5 with SMTP id h5mr1092207ebh.95.1241590821720; Tue, 05 May 2009 23:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 02:20:21 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280905052320r55949c9v26c1c9db25a5d9ae@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HyperThreading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 06:20:23 -0000 Hello, I'm running FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE on a dual-core Xeon. It has a custom compiled SMP kernel, ACPI enabled, with the ULE scheduler. I've been looking into HyperThreading, and I've come to the conclusion that I should not use it. I've been told that HTT is disabled by default, however sysctl and dmesg seems to contradict that: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2395.93-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400 Logical CPUs per core: 2 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 3 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 1 hw.ncpu: 4 kern.smp.disabled: 0 kern.smp.active: 1 Am I correct to assume that the above means that HTT is enabled? There is nothing in my loader.conf, sysctl.conf, or kernel config file related to hyperthreading. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 06:21:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E3F106567A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 06:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8388FC15 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 06:21:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n466KRZB028372; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:20:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n466KPiY028369; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:20:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:20:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com> Message-ID: References: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the highest hard drive read/write speed you were able to achieve by entire disk mirroring or striping? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 06:21:22 -0000 > I am seeing 85MB/s as a speed of a single Hitachi 1TB HD. > How high can you go by mirroring or striping 2, 3, 4 harddrives? mirroring - the same, just with 2 processes reading both can get the bandwidth. make sure you use -s high enough (like 1048576) doing gmirror label stripping - the same, or 2,3,4 times, depends how you configure. for highest transfer and lowest concurrency (you mostly read huge files with one process) - use small stripe size. for lowest transfer (=1 disk) and highest concurency - use very huge stripe size like 512MB, so simply different process reading different things can hit different drives, but each I/O isn't spread. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 08:19:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3B81065694 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741BA8FC1D for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n468IwvH040522 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:18:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n468IwHC040519 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:18:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:18:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: move to other subnet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:19:07 -0000 Just want to check: If a freebsd7 system is to move to a different subnet (from ip XXX.YYY.AAA.BBB to XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD) same netmask 255.255.255.0 same hostname myhost.mydomain.mycountry same DNS servers then /etc/rc.conf is the only file that needs changes? defaultrouter="XXX.YYY.CCC.254" <--- hostname="myhost.mydomain.mycountry" ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD netmask 255.255.255.0" <--- and reboot ? or is there any other file(s) to change? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 08:32:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6721065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF848FC1F for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1cXm-0005aK-SK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 09:32:02 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1M1cXk-0002Wf-3A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 09:31:56 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n468VtlW048850 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:31:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n468VrK6048849 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:31:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:31:53 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: make - reassign variable using if-then ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:32:03 -0000 I've this simple makefile: VAR=one all : main main : @echo ${.CURDIR} .if ${.CURDIR} @echo ${VAR} VAR=two @echo ${VAR} .endif When I output VAR second time, the value is still "one", and not the new value "two". Why? % make /usr/home/mexas one VAR=two one And gmake gives an error: % gmake makefile:7: *** missing separator. Stop. % please help many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 08:42:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E6B106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504238FC15 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from cs.ait.ac.th (ufo.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.14]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n468d8M0046083; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:39:08 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from 203.159.17.104 ([203.159.17.104]) by wwws.cs.ait.ac.th (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 06 May 2009 15:42:51 +0700 Message-ID: <20090506154251.o6zz76tws0sogwso@wwws.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:42:51 +0700 From: on@cs.ait.ac.th To: Pieter Donche References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: move to other subnet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:42:53 -0000 Hi, > then /etc/rc.conf is the only file that needs changes? > > defaultrouter="XXX.YYY.CCC.254" <--- > hostname="myhost.mydomain.mycountry" > ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD netmask 255.255.255.0" <--- > > and reboot ? > or is there any other file(s) to change? In theory, yes, that changes the IP address of the machine. But then you may have some services configured to listen to a specific IP address, these services will have to be reconfigured too. Olivier ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 08:44:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFA81065672 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.vub.ac.be (mxin.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D45D8FC13 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjICAM/oAEqkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAI0CSEAQWICg Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.vub.ac.be with ESMTP; 06 May 2009 10:43:58 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:46:19 +0200 Message-Id: <1241599579.2656.5.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: move to other subnet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:44:06 -0000 On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:18 +0200, Pieter Donche wrote: > Just want to check: > > If a freebsd7 system is to move to a different subnet > (from ip XXX.YYY.AAA.BBB to XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD) > same netmask 255.255.255.0 > same hostname myhost.mydomain.mycountry > same DNS servers > > then /etc/rc.conf is the only file that needs changes? > yes (maybe /etc/hosts too) > defaultrouter="XXX.YYY.CCC.254" <--- > hostname="myhost.mydomain.mycountry" > ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD netmask 255.255.255.0" <--- > > and reboot ? no need to reboot, just #> /etc/rc.d/netif restart > or is there any other file(s) to change? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 09:02:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDB6106566B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (smtp3.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937668FC34 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 9B0151BC05C2_A015200B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:01:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (eca.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.91]) by smtp2.yhgfl.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id 47DEC1BC05F4_A0151FFF for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:01:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4691oxu004756 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:01:51 +0100 Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A1F371F0084; Wed, 06 May 2009 10:01:39 +0100 From: "Marc Coyles" To: References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:01:36 +0100 Message-ID: <009401c9ce29$42b9bea0$c82d3be0$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnNsAUV6FfdhJrqQWqSV211mtF2fAAbNa2g Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Subject: RE: Dump snapshot issue... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:02:06 -0000 > One thing you should try is to remove the dump_snapshot files, > because > they are supposed to be unlinked when the dump starts anyway, so > they > shouldn't be sticking around. > > Also, look for file flags on the directories, or ACLs, etc. > > And consider the permissions you're running dump with. > Dump is running as root via cron / initiated by hand. ACLs not used. Have removed all existing dump_snapshot files, and have also removed and recreated all .snap directories. S'now working fine for all mountpoints, except /home... mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory It doesn't appear to proceed "as normal" either... as you can see below, it ends the previous dump, starts the /home dump, gets an I/O error, then proceeds straight to the /usr dump. The /home dump never gets performed. If I remove the -L option, everything goes thru fine, but complains about lack of -L flag... DUMP: DUMP IS DONE mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed May 6 08:30:31 2009 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/da0s1e (/usr) to standard output Fsck finds no errors on /home... point to note... mksnap_ffs CAN create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot as I'm sat looking at the file, however, once it's created it it's as tho it can't access it. The file is there, it wasn't before I ran the script. It's created it as root:operator, perms 400. I can open it in pico, add content to it, and save it happily. So I'm baffled! M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 09:10:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AA3106566B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EC48FC0C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF00D18516EBA for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:54:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n468s5KN005440 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:54:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:54:05 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) Subject: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:10:54 -0000 Hello, Maybe a bit off-topic (sorry for this). I've got a fresh Dell M4400 laptop with 250 GByte, pre-installed Vista on it. Is there a way to reduce the Vista to let's say 50 GByte and install FreeBSD -CURRENT in the remaining 200 GByte, just to have the Vista later for some investigations, or whatever? Thx If not I will scratch the Vista, install FreeBSD and later in the rest of 50 GByte the Vista again. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 09:15:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D08106566C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF498FC08 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FD47E837; Wed, 6 May 2009 01:15:10 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:15:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: make - reassign variable using if-then ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:15:13 -0000 On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:31:53 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've this simple makefile: > > VAR=one > > all : main > > main : > @echo ${.CURDIR} > .if ${.CURDIR} > @echo ${VAR} > VAR=two > @echo ${VAR} > .endif > > When I output VAR second time, the value is still "one", and not the > new value "two". Why? Because it is expanded before being passed to the shell. Sh sees: echo one VAR=two echo one What are you really trying to accomplish? -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 09:32:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F721065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2312F8FC19 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 09:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1dTf-000565-5J; Wed, 06 May 2009 10:32:17 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1M1dTF-0003TS-45; Wed, 06 May 2009 10:31:46 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n469VKgP064714; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:31:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n469VHAK064713; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:31:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:31:17 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Mel Flynn Message-ID: <20090506093117.GA64688@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make - reassign variable using if-then ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:32:21 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 11:15:07AM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:31:53 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I've this simple makefile: > > > > VAR=one > > > > all : main > > > > main : > > @echo ${.CURDIR} > > .if ${.CURDIR} > > @echo ${VAR} > > VAR=two > > @echo ${VAR} > > .endif > > > > When I output VAR second time, the value is still "one", and not the > > new value "two". Why? > > Because it is expanded before being passed to the shell. Sh sees: > echo one > VAR=two > echo one > > What are you really trying to accomplish? I'm trying to build gcc43 on alpha 6.4. In /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile I have: # grep NOT_FOR_ARCHS /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile NOT_FOR_ARCHS= alpha ia64 powerpc # In /etc/make.conf I have: .if ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc43*} NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64 USE_GCC=4.3+ .endif This used to work fine until some update. Not anymore. The second setting is being used, i.e. the port is being built with gcc43. But the NOT_FOR_ARCHS is not changed, so I have to do it manually each time. So I tried to experiment with changing variable values withing if-then. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 10:26:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD01F1065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C35D8FC16 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from joshua.freebsdgr.org (athedsl-4555533.home.otenet.gr [94.70.79.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n46AQodJ015767; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:26:50 +0300 Message-ID: <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:26:50 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090411) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:26:54 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > Maybe a bit off-topic (sorry for this). I've got a fresh Dell M4400 > laptop with 250 GByte, pre-installed Vista on it. Is there a way to > reduce the Vista to let's say 50 GByte and install FreeBSD -CURRENT > in the remaining 200 GByte, just to have the Vista later for some > investigations, or whatever? Thx > > If not I will scratch the Vista, install FreeBSD and later in the rest > of 50 GByte the Vista again. > > matthias > Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management. Right click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that it will allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the fragmentation) but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G disk. Then install FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager (it will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use EasyBCD (free download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot menu. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 10:29:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A779106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4799E8FC13 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1M1eN7-000PUi-AC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 14:29:05 +0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com> <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:29:05 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com> (Adam Vande More's message of "Tue\, 05 May 2009 22\:07\:48 -0500") Message-ID: <37268590@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: carefull confirm on using linux_base-fc8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:29:06 -0000 On Tue, 05 May 2009 22:07:48 -0500 Adam Vande More wrote: > If you intend on using f8, you'll want entries like this in /etc/make.conf > USE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 > USE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8 > OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 > OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8 Actually, only the last two hav to be defined. FYI: the first two variables were written at /usr/ports/UPDATING by an accident and fixed in a day. > That and other useful information can always be found in /usr/ports/UPDATING Yep. ;-) And reading emulation@ mail list about introduction of f8 ports is also recommended. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 10:44:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D99A106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) Received: from mail-01.multibanka.com (mail-01.multibanka.com [80.233.138.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73628FC0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) Received: from EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com (dz62-clust01.mbint.multibanka.com [10.2.2.201]) by mail-01.multibanka.com (8.14.2/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n46AiTfq017985 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:44:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:44:29 +0300 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD on VMware ESXi Thread-Index: AcnON6Hz26KbJiikTWu1BnDJkVJtQw== From: "Daniels Vanags" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD on VMware ESXi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:44:33 -0000 We moved Hard Disk Drives from HP ProLiant DL 385 G2 with 4GB RAM, AMD Opteron processor to HP ProLiant DL 380 G5, 4GB RAM, Intel Xeon processor. Disks contain FreeBSD Virtual Machines running in VMware ESXi Server. When trying to boot, getting error: BTX halted. Please explain, how to start FreeBSD on different hardware. Thanks, =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Daniel Vanags Information Technology Department IT infrastructure system engineer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JSC SMP Bank www.smpbank.lv Phone: +371 67019386 E-mail: Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 11:51:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D40F106566B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 11:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0558FC08 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 11:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIMWAUrUnw4R/2dsb2JhbADQLIQBBQ Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 06 May 2009 12:51:18 +0100 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1M1fef-0005mO-F1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 12:51:17 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1fef-000MtQ-2k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 12:51:17 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:51:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905061251.16859.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 31f2ccbe615ae4d11081a06093de6fb9 Subject: Do I need both gcc-4.2 and gcc-4.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:51:20 -0000 Somehow I've ended up with 2 copies of gcc from ports in addition to gcc-3.4 in the base system. pkg_info suggests that only gcc-4.3 is needed: curlew:/home/mike% pkg_info -Rx gcc-4 Information for gcc-4.2.5_20081126: Information for gcc-4.3.4_20090419: Required by: fftw-2.1.5_5 I'm sure I haven't chosen to install fftw-2.1.5_5, and pkg_info -R doesn't show any other ports needing it. I was wondering if I could safely deinstall fftw and both the gcc-4 packages but wondered if pkg_info only shows the run dependencies and not the build dependencies. I don't mind the disk space needed but portupgrade sometimes results in having to upgrade 2 copies of gcc which is quite time consuming. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 12:00:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AE11065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9308FC12 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1fn6-00007t-AK; Wed, 06 May 2009 13:00:02 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1M1fn5-00065y-Jz; Wed, 06 May 2009 13:00:00 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46Bxwb0065274; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:59:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n46BxuXR065273; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:59:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:59:56 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Mike Clarke Message-ID: <20090506115956.GA65243@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <200905061251.16859.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905061251.16859.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I need both gcc-4.2 and gcc-4.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:00:04 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 12:51:16PM +0100, Mike Clarke wrote: > Somehow I've ended up with 2 copies of gcc from ports in addition to > gcc-3.4 in the base system. > > pkg_info suggests that only gcc-4.3 is needed: > > curlew:/home/mike% pkg_info -Rx gcc-4 > Information for gcc-4.2.5_20081126: > > Information for gcc-4.3.4_20090419: > > Required by: > fftw-2.1.5_5 > > I'm sure I haven't chosen to install fftw-2.1.5_5, and pkg_info -R > doesn't show any other ports needing it. I was wondering if I could > safely deinstall fftw and both the gcc-4 packages but wondered if > pkg_info only shows the run dependencies and not the build > dependencies. I don't mind the disk space needed but portupgrade > sometimes results in having to upgrade 2 copies of gcc which is quite > time consuming. short answer - do as you wish. Any software you don't need you can safely remove provided it is not required by some other packages. Yes, only run dependencies are shown, therefore, from time to time I remove some packages which I don't need, and which were built only to build others, which I do need. HOwever, this is probably a waste of time, because it is likely that they would be build again at some point, when the other packages are updated. Also, I'm fairy certain, though check yourself, that all packages which require 4.2.5 would be also happy with higher version, i.e. I'd just leave the highest version of gcc. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 12:08:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091531065680 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95288FC1B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D83318516EB5; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:08:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n46C8RAR010312; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:08:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:08:27 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Manolis Kiagias Message-ID: <20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:08:32 -0000 El día Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> > Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management. Right > click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that it will > allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the fragmentation) > but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G disk. I did so and was only allowed to shrink the partition to some 125 GByte. I even moved before the swap to some other partition, reserved for of DELL recovery. I re-booted and hoped that it let me now shrink the 125 even more, but no luck. So, at the moment I only have around 100 GByte for FreeBSD free, which is a lot, compared with other servers I have here. > Then install > FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager (it > will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use EasyBCD (free > download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot menu. Thanks for the hint. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 12:21:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F569106566B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: from ibox.insign.ch (ibox.insign.ch [195.134.143.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8027B8FC1E for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: (qmail 26320 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 11:54:49 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.170] ([80.254.166.203]) by ibox.insign.ch ([195.134.143.207]) with ESMTP via TCP; 06 May 2009 11:54:49 -0000 From: Olivier Mueller To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:54:48 +0200 Message-Id: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:21:31 -0000 Hello, $ df -m ; date ; rm -r templates_c ; df -m ; date Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 989 45 864 5% / /dev/da0s1f 128631 102179 16160 86% /usr [...] Wed May 6 00:23:01 CEST 2009 Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 989 45 864 5% / /dev/da0s1f 128631 69844 48496 59% /usr Wed May 6 12:21:02 CEST 2009 -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs). It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5 with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x ( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) ) Surprisingly, cpu load remained quite low during the operation (apache stayed responsive). Is it a known problem on this kind of hardware or something related to the filesystem? Is there a way to improve this? Even on my $500 PC with IDE disks this goes quicker... :) I checked http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/configtuning-disk.html but I'm not sure if this would help in this case. Any suggestion how I can "fix" that? Regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 12:48:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB551065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB958FC12 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29E2CEBC0A; Wed, 6 May 2009 08:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:48:34 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Olivier Mueller Message-Id: <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:48:37 -0000 In response to Olivier Mueller : > Hello, > > $ df -m ; date ; rm -r templates_c ; df -m ; date > Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1a 989 45 864 5% / > /dev/da0s1f 128631 102179 16160 86% /usr > [...] > Wed May 6 00:23:01 CEST 2009 > > Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1a 989 45 864 5% / > /dev/da0s1f 128631 69844 48496 59% /usr > Wed May 6 12:21:02 CEST 2009 > > > -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and > sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs). > It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5 > with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x > ( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) ) > > Surprisingly, cpu load remained quite low during the operation (apache > stayed responsive). Is it a known problem on this kind of hardware or > something related to the filesystem? Is there a way to improve this? > Even on my $500 PC with IDE disks this goes quicker... :) > > I checked > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/configtuning-disk.html but > I'm not sure if this would help in this case. Any suggestion how I can > "fix" that? With lots of small files, the time involved is far less dependent on the size of data, and much more dependent on the number of files, and the resultant number of directory entries that need to be updated. "Lots" isn't a particularly accurate count of the # of files, but if you're talking web cache files, I'll guess they average 5k each, which means you had 6 million files. df -i would have been more useful in the output above. This brings a number of questions up: * Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition? That's going to make the biggest improvement in speed. * Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000? Again, going to make a big difference. * If apache was still running, is it possible that it was creating enough disk activity to slow the activity down? Running top -m io will show you how much disk IO each process is creating. * When you compared the speed to your laptop, did you delete 6 million files from the laptop? If you deleted a single 30G file, then you're comparing apples to atom bombs. If this is a directory that you blow away on a regular schedule, you'd do much better to make it a dedicated partition and simply reformat it. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 12:50:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AEB106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 863B18FC25 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 May 2009 12:50:18 -0000 Received: from p54AA6860.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO ac1dc0de) [84.170.104.96] by mail.gmx.net (mp045) with SMTP; 06 May 2009 14:50:18 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18EZO0KcVQESLRWIcjyP+3g7Vj3UnYD/oHlPPNjVG YMo7NCFK7ZzTs3 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:50:14 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090506145014.9f767fda.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <49FE4F00.4070208@hdk5.net> References: <49FE4F00.4070208@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Subject: Re: xorg error with xfce3 wm install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:50:26 -0000 On Sun, 03 May 2009 16:12:16 -1000 Al Plant wrote: [ snip ] > "xlib extension error" "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". [ snip ] Hi Al, i am running fluxbox 1.1.1, i receive the same error msgs with every X app i start, since i did some updating on the installed xorg port with portupgrade, i don`t know what xorg version is shipped with the freebsd 7.1 ports on a fresh installation. First i worried a little bit about this error msg too but since it does not do any harm on my installation so i don`t care bout this msgs anymore. regards Daniel -- The only reality is virtual! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 12:57:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E502B106574C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A135A8FC18 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from server15.gelita.swe (212-162-182-242.skbbip.com [212.162.182.242]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E540B10E848; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:37:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:43:46 +0200 From: Anders Troback To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090506144346.35d7d9a2@server15.gelita.swe> In-Reply-To: <20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr> <20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.12; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Troback-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: E540B10E848.AF91F X-Troback-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Troback-MailScanner-From: freebsd@troback.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:57:52 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:08:27 +0200 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis > Kiagias escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > > Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel ->=20 > > Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management. > > Right click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that > > it will allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the > > fragmentation) but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G > > disk. >=20 > I did so and was only allowed to shrink the partition to some 125 > GByte. I even moved before the swap to some other partition, reserved > for of DELL recovery. > I re-booted and hoped that it let me now shrink the 125 even more, > but no luck. So, at the moment I only have around 100 GByte for > FreeBSD free, which is a lot, compared with other servers I have > here.=20 >=20 > > Then install=20 > > FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager > > (it will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use > > EasyBCD (free download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot > > menu. >=20 > Thanks for the hint. >=20 > matthias Before you shrink you need to defrag you partition and normally you can't do it with the defrag tool that are built into Vista, you need something like PerfectDisk. You can get a trial version of PerfecDisk and you only need it once so that's not an issue:-) You have to do a system-files-defrag-on-next-boot (don't remember the exact options here)! \\anders --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 13:04:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628BA1065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gio.nov@vodafone.it) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8CA8FC1C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gio.nov@vodafone.it) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so27205eyd.7 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 06:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.51.18 with SMTP id y18mr1512488eby.40.1241613169314; Wed, 06 May 2009 05:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core2duoE6550 (net-93-66-100-234.cust.dsl.vodafone.it [93.66.100.234]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm3884375eyx.43.2009.05.06.05.32.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 06 May 2009 05:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "giorgio novello" To: Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcnORsNaXexXlrjSRimcULdu7eq01A== Content-Language: it Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:04:49 -0000 Do you want obtain new market share? Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best seller Regards Giorgio Novello Vb developer Italy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 13:16:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CF0106566C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036D78FC1E for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so100435ewy.43 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 06:16:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PvFWPRZxS+PjilEQZptzQLFSe1+OWKTo+FZfQ8+ECbI=; b=AtyouMRIoEMHdyXtqSSRsJB9vhcUR5Nz0c5M8opc+XfnOgE285t/ALMzy/a2/aZMlo VVokVVpL0sYA8+zhVPncIb0cwhCrFu3VaklQMbA0hks8C7p1ismgAkfvpD9qCVqbpfBf SGAETQv8A4KWRyP20HkCiHMeCBegc4DjIBTxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g8MdospBhMMmE3VMZWF+oNjedoJfd15u0LQezJnFLgfVIOainfFEVFZ2vUh34CYc0M W/hGo7aEQqz6MZUdu7/voZJU0I65Y+965ROKqBka55SNk48o1O3jRWLgdfuskAkgIxXg Pi3tbqy5YPxc+8nu4expcmYFoi65OzoDoyZEg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.116.14 with SMTP id o14mr1571086ebc.33.1241615814847; Wed, 06 May 2009 06:16:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:16:34 +0100 Message-ID: To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:16:56 -0000 2009/5/6 giorgio novello : > Do you want obtain new market share? > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and =A0your OS will be a = best > seller > > > > Regards > > Giorgio Novello > > Vb developer > > Italy But.... VB only works on one platform! Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 13:22:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014F4106566B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: from ibox.insign.ch (ibox.insign.ch [195.134.143.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7437E8FC0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: (qmail 11663 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 13:22:02 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.170] ([80.254.166.203]) by ibox.insign.ch ([195.134.143.207]) with ESMTP via TCP; 06 May 2009 13:22:02 -0000 From: Olivier Mueller To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:22:01 +0200 Message-Id: <1241616121.16418.109.camel@ompc.insign.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data (4 million files) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:22:05 -0000 Thanks for your answer Bill! (and to Will as well), Some more infos I gathered a few minutes ago: [~/templates_c]$ date; du -s -m ; date Wed May 6 13:35:15 CEST 2009 2652 . Wed May 6 13:52:36 CEST 2009 [~/templates_c]$ date ; find . | wc -l ; date Wed May 6 13:52:56 CEST 2009 305461 Wed May 6 14:09:39 CEST 2009 So this is on the system after a complete cache cleanup (at 00h00). 300'000 files and 2.6GB. So this night, there were probably around 3-4 million files to delete. Deletion may take time, but 20 minutes juste to _count_ all the files seems pretty long to me... I think I'll say a word to the developers to let them tune their caching system a bit :) On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 08:48 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > With lots of small files, the time involved is far less dependent on > the size of data, and much more dependent on the number of files, and > the resultant number of directory entries that need to be updated. > "Lots" isn't a particularly accurate count of the # of files, but if > you're talking web cache files, I'll guess they average 5k each, which > means you had 6 million files. df -i would have been more useful in > the output above. Thanks, noted for next time. Now it looks like that: Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/da0s1f 128631 70544 47795 60% 1913875 15114219 11% /usr > This brings a number of questions up: > * Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition? That's > going to make the biggest improvement in speed. According to "mount" output, yes. I found no specific message about that in the syslog or dmesg. > * Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000? Again, going to make a big > difference. HP 146GB 6G SAS 10K SFF DP ENT HDD (15k were not available at the time the servers were ordered) ( http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/serial/sas/index.html ) > * If apache was still running, is it possible that it was creating > enough disk activity to slow the activity down? Running > top -m io will show you how much disk IO each process is creating. Yes, apache was still running, but the activity was quite low (it was during the night, and the webpage doesn't get so many hits before 9 am local time) While watching "top -m io", the "du" or "find" takes between 80 and 99%, so I guess it's not the probleme here: PID UID VCSW IVCSW READ WRITE FAULT TOTAL PERCENT COMMAND 87996 1002 59 56 0 0 0 0 0.00% php 45389 1002 35 25 0 0 2 2 0.84% php 3964 1002 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00% httpd 3822 1002 151 98 0 0 0 0 0.00% httpd 3005 1002 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00% httpd 4129 1002 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00% httpd 3971 1002 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00% httpd 4231 1002 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00% httpd 4132 0 234 5 234 0 0 234 97.91% find 98862 1002 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00% top 609 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00% snmpd [...] > * When you compared the speed to your laptop, did you delete 6 million > files from the laptop? If you deleted a single 30G file, then you're > comparing apples to atom bombs. Yes sorry, I know :) > If this is a directory that you blow away on a regular schedule, you'd > do much better to make it a dedicated partition and simply reformat > it. Yes, it is one of the best options. My initial goal was to delete all files older than N days by cron (find | xargs | rm, etc.), but if each cronjob takes 2 hours (and takes so much cpu time), it's probably not the best way. I'll make some more tests on an test-server later this week and speak with the devs. Thanks again for your very constructive feedback! Regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 13:30:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21534106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04328FC12 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so106129fxm.43 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tj4DbUk0KmtRzsOUpRcofd7IZEOK3a6f0dlOhRyWY2o=; b=uxmiIIZDMVuHtteFyqpQvOvdMWnFvMuLjpcaiIXsECmUm0AxlLsyNrBpouGC0WgbvS 706G3f9VL3TgujrayM5b1bMxyGTP5nxpecNjrqOo8iLUeaG+eCQZYxG3pFMRqXcFTR91 IsGY8bHoZJYq17eoBn1ol4HvmHxA96Lu7VCWA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vMdV43OEJGonPuQWugC6cbwrH5jcBqugyCNxWEpkkUEAEJS7/igCOkalwsNKm/cCgW oS1gmyJ31HDzzZLVIE4IKKEx7oi7lZjVddDQPmtqVNo/sVEsN7ugQa9Y1ckxewW3v5hO EaHAQK0BQS8foD6XfhxIOzhhqbSNLHfTtSdwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.244.19 with SMTP id w19mr875006mur.106.1241616642795; Wed, 06 May 2009 06:30:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> From: n j Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:30:04 +0200 Message-ID: <92bcbda50905060630j50820ebdid2e583ad6281b177@mail.gmail.com> To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:30:45 -0000 > ... What is the best way to restore the full system? > Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode? I experienced such a situation just 2 weeks ago. My primary problem was that I had to do restore over the network (no attached tape drives, no external HDDs). I wanted to use ssh to grab the dump from the backup server, but ended up using netcat which worked great. Here's basically what I did including backup from the not-yet-dead machine (note, I used intermediate backup server, but it should be possible to directly pipe dump to restore): 1. dump -0Laf - / | ssh backup-server "cat > dump.root" 2. boot the new machine from CD disc1 (FreeBSD <7) or livefs disc (FreeBSD >7) 3. create and newfs partitions as explained in this thread (at least the size of backup, can be larger) 4. go into the rescue (fixit) mode, create mount points for created partitions (mkdir mnt.root), mount partitions (e.g. mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt.root), change directory to mount point (cd /mnt.root), configure NIC (ifconfig) 5. start netcat (nc -l 55555 | restore -rvf -) 6. on backup-server: cat dump.root | nc new-machine 55555 7. repeat for usr and var partitions Notes: 1. if security is an issue, ssh out from the new machine to the backup server with port forwarding (ssh -R 55555:localhost:55555 backup-server) and pipe the backup to localhost (cat dump.root | nc localhost 55555); my initial idea was to start sshd in fixit mode (see my post to the list "fixit console with sshd") which turned out to be too much of a trouble. 2. restore uses TMPDIR to store some temporary files during restore process; the fixit mode has limited free space and when it gets exhausted the restore process will fail, so it is a good idea to use an available partition as a temporary TMPDIR (e.g. export TMPDIR=/mnt.var while restoring usr partition and later use a subdirectory of usr as TMPDIR to restore var partition) 3. [IMPORTANT!] after the restore process is over, manually check restored etc/fstab and etc/rc.conf (currently mounted as /mnt.root/...) to fix: a) partition names (e.g. /dev/da0s1a might become /dev/amrd0s1a) b) ethernet interface names (e.g. em0 might become bge0) c) IP addresses in case you still have the old box running to avoid IP conflict You should now be able to safely reboot and log into your new machine. Regards, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 13:56:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86997106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C3F8FC14 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E4F5E3B2; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:56:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.158 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.158 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00C8UCga+dJw; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:56:45 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from blj01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AA35E23F; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:56:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A019719.6070001@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:56:41 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr> <20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090506144346.35d7d9a2@server15.gelita.swe> In-Reply-To: <20090506144346.35d7d9a2@server15.gelita.swe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:56:49 -0000 Anders Troback skrev: > On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:08:27 +0200 > Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> El día Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis >> Kiagias escribió: >> >>> Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> >>> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management. >>> Right click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that >>> it will allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the >>> fragmentation) but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G >>> disk. >> I did so and was only allowed to shrink the partition to some 125 >> GByte. I even moved before the swap to some other partition, reserved >> for of DELL recovery. >> I re-booted and hoped that it let me now shrink the 125 even more, >> but no luck. So, at the moment I only have around 100 GByte for >> FreeBSD free, which is a lot, compared with other servers I have >> here. >> >>> Then install >>> FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager >>> (it will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use >>> EasyBCD (free download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot >>> menu. >> Thanks for the hint. >> >> matthias > > Before you shrink you need to defrag you partition and normally you > can't do it with the defrag tool that are built into Vista, you need > something like PerfectDisk. You can get a trial version of PerfecDisk > and you only need it once so that's not an issue:-) You have to do a > system-files-defrag-on-next-boot (don't remember the exact options > here)! > > \\anders > I've done this a few times and the best procedure is to use the Parted magic CD and resize the partition. The Vista shrink tool is not something I would recommend. You don't have to think of defragging when you use Parted Magic. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 14:26:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE82E106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2138FC12 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so45244eyd.7 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 07:26:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7XDjHRqSh0XJJtZ+QLV/R8FzL+cbmhmLFLMWL8l/i6w=; b=W72Xzuvw4G5DjGonj6fPly+Bk1yP/W77b2zIIyXz5cW9oqzBFNtFwFhmuB031xDPNO EQxhp1al6w3H+McHTxCAHgbH77LQ61Avoa3JKqpj5hNFkKY0mSpJmZq0JWREOpxiwJfU FIT93P1hcH3kSJwxbERJ/5KIQsq4AAFq5KMOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vN81KLn8xEtILJ3rCjeaVJFylk/k1Sbkph8OowYmSSge3AAJ4A+lZeTC0B4C9togae x8xtr71C8l+fLbKwfElcGMdoKu6L0JN7dgyTSFk2mVJg1nfwUrWJGh46qG+ajKXLugKA WIOZn4wnOCfCw4bhaLoHt3tym2m6Tq9mSOM3s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.144.16 with SMTP id r16mr520503wfd.214.1241619958034; Wed, 06 May 2009 07:25:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:25:58 +0700 Message-ID: <5635aa0d0905060725x747e22fbq3cae81c81a3dc092@mail.gmail.com> From: Outback Dingo To: giorgio novello Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:26:02 -0000 comne on now, its not even april first..... On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 PM, giorgio novello wrote: > Do you want obtain new market share? > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best > seller > > > > Regards > > Giorgio Novello > > Vb developer > > Italy > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 14:30:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631AB1065672 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-1516.google.com (yw-out-1516.google.com [74.125.46.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A9E8FC1D for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-1516.google.com with SMTP id 7so77546ywc.13 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 07:30:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.91.20 with SMTP id o20mr1038569ybb.2.1241620248431; Wed, 06 May 2009 07:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:30:48 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:30:49 -0000 Hi, I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering, how do I configure the router to assign addresses to hosts. Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 14:39:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF21106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5F38FC17 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so155539fxm.43 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 07:39:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6+RN+AL6cWpF7+EEUzN220BgehslEpNkukKm8//InjM=; b=CdWzAvGHbg+P03yK/Nq7S4rINfDZ5/WDE4q0zfDk0NgigNX2GmVK4EThw/qUAwTOxG iCVhzWCsuyMuPys8D48p6Jxwp/3uJ0R+sq8mVe9+9AgnmkXsj0h5CljAVwpAqnVujUaf HkRTGFdjRJ0TKP+XtKYVEx2tOXO4cAiPlVB2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=LimhujQt87zZCKemV77abWFbSZOydOFTOUPNGyOXO7o25iFaMIQmVD+e3ujAoHwS+L 2UH4OGdm4mSIhUaWZ5eH80Eb5dleC/20OvNBmyScHF6tkM5Qo8vRZxpR5zhBN+RAtvNV ihh02iWTBkHZInsuhGOYs4C5JjrzjT2Pnmzn0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.193 with SMTP id j1mr981718faq.85.1241620764040; Wed, 06 May 2009 07:39:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:39:24 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?T2RoaWFtYm8gIOODr+OCt+ODs+ODiOODsw==?= To: af300wsm@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:39:25 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other > helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering, > how do I configure the router to assign addresses to hosts. Nice question. I wonder if isc-dhcp-server can already handle IPv6 addresses. I, too, am interested in knowing and I guess it's time I start learning these IPv6 stuff. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 14:40:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F94A1065703 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23198FC3B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so71179mue.3 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 07:40:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9x1bWEcz6+/uxSFZPUyk+gx58cLkAyNhE5b5gYHnYew=; b=mRuyHvsGT3K2HRMFP414RKzXNXIWazcu9zdOO1Qhd/h6oT6D52B1uQpB4GZe4cWNOo OcvNAuT2qiu0HCPHMdsJhj39pZwK6qYNa8HFTwrc6Vw18XJo3iViHQLyIgpw+y8H0U6y ctVnk5RoF4fqVNv2ouomLDBFt0VxB6WG8Yjik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=FV3nIt964M9hUZ/S4/MTaQ02QHjA49CY5ziCA7MufOczYrSmZtszXdpwtAgLP4VuQi H3heWyrrCnmuIQPTSjXzzzdKtIv3+CbTGf2RvO/u2aMutG3ks763uVM85KmY/XhwkL7k nDrfffqqNUzkQdvYyUfWwPjIkOKToume5c67M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.168.5 with SMTP id v5mr936449muo.77.1241620846698; Wed, 06 May 2009 07:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:40:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Preferred client for DynDNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:40:49 -0000 There appear to be several clients capable of working with DynDNS.com services here: E.g., dns/inadyn, dns/ipcheck Can anyone make recommendations? My goal in using DynDNS is to allow remote SSH logins to a machine behind a router at my house (using a common ISP). Thanks, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 14:52:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D87106566C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA5E8FC20 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE1A4CE386; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:52:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.808 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.808 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.792, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PJm4rnmKLSA5; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:52:06 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from blj01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642724CE384; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:52:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A01A416.9030807@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:52:06 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Underwood References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Preferred client for DynDNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:52:14 -0000 Daniel Underwood skrev: > There appear to be several clients capable of working with DynDNS.com > services here: > > > E.g., dns/inadyn, dns/ipcheck > > Can anyone make recommendations? My goal in using DynDNS is to allow > remote SSH logins to a machine behind a router at my house (using a > common ISP). > > Thanks, > Daniel I use dns/noip for exactly that purpose on six different machines (and locations) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 14:53:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD9106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=3708b6a46=echen@nyx.com) Received: from CHMAILGW02.tradearca.com (chmailgw02.nyx.com [198.140.49.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DDF8FC2C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=3708b6a46=echen@nyx.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,302,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="77166275" Received: from nysecorpsmtp01.corp.nyse.com (HELO nysecorpsmtp01.nyse.com) ([159.125.152.166]) by CHMAILGW02-int.tradearca.com with ESMTP; 06 May 2009 09:24:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <44zldrjbgr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Eddie Chen Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:24:14 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NYSECORPSMTP01/NYSE(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 05/06/2009 10:24:16 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:53:31 -0000 Lowell, On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I Googled "fetch", can't found the download URL for "fetch". It seems "fetch(1)" will get file(s)... We mostly push the file(s) to the clients. Thanks. Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc 05/05/2009 Eddie Chen 08:56 PM Subject Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Please respond to freebsd-questions @freebsd.org Eddie Chen writes: > I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code. > > However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing it. > It's actually trivial to implement this feature. > > If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client. I've never used return codes with ftp(1), but I have used them with fetch(1), which is also part of the base system. Have you tried fetch? If it doesn't meet your needs, can you explain why? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ Visit our website at http://www.nyse.com **************************************************** Note: The information contained in this message and any attachment to it is privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message, and please delete it from your system. Thank you. NYSE Euronext, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 14:56:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75C11065747 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970D78FC2E for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.19] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n46Euhsj095751; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:56:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:56:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> <991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905061056.43181.lists@jnielsen.net> Cc: Odhiambo =?utf-8?q?=E3=83=AF=E3=82=B7=E3=83=B3=E3=83=88=E3=83=B3?= , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:56:46 -0000 On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:39:24 am Odhiambo =E3=83=AF=E3=82=B7=E3=83=B3= =E3=83=88=E3=83=B3 wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM, wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other > > helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm > > wondering, how do I configure the router to assign addresses to > > hosts. > > Nice question. I wonder if isc-dhcp-server can already handle IPv6 > addresses. I, too, am interested in knowing and I guess it's time I > start learning these IPv6 stuff. Is there a reason you need to control the addresses used by your clients=20 (other than the prefix)? I set up IPv6 on my LAN and while I have DHCPd=20 running on the router for IPv4 addresses rtadvd is all I needed for IPv6.=20 Clients assign themselves addresses based on the network prefix they=20 learn from route solicitation and their own MAC address. That's supposed=20 to be one of the "reduced administration" benefits of the new=20 protocol. :) JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:09:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7A8106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF998FC08 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46F8fJ3011416; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:08:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id F3A3D8A461; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9358A463; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 May 2009 10:08:40 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:08:37 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBC9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Thread-Index: AcnOWrTtUgtnjhZeQAyY+/skyLIXcwAAFbHg References: <44zldrjbgr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Eddie Chen" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2009 15:08:40.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A081B70:01C9CE5C] Cc: Subject: RE: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:09:13 -0000 Can I assume you want return codes to know if the file was transferred correctly? Several years ago I was involved in architecting a middleware app for file/data exchange. For ftp delivery (and others) we'd check the file size locally, put the file, then check the file size on the remote side. Not fool-proof, such as CRC or Hash of somekind, but pretty good. Use bin mode for everything. Also, maybe as part of the file record itself you can embed a hash and have the client check this when processing the file on their end. Unfortunately when using ftp you never know what the ftp server supports, so unless you can dictate "supported" ftp servers, you can't get too fancy. G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Eddie Chen Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Lowell, On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I Googled "fetch", can't found the download URL for "fetch". It seems "fetch(1)" will get file(s)... We mostly push the file(s) to the clients. Thanks. =20 Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =20 cc=20 05/05/2009 Eddie Chen 08:56 PM Subject=20 Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP =20 Please respond to freebsd-questions @freebsd.org =20 =20 Eddie Chen writes: > I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code. > > However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing it. > It's actually trivial to implement this feature. > > If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client. I've never used return codes with ftp(1), but I have used them with fetch(1), which is also part of the base system. Have you tried fetch? If it doesn't meet your needs, can you explain why? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ Visit our website at http://www.nyse.com **************************************************** Note: The information contained in this message and any attachment to it is privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended=20 recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,=20 distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the=20 sender immediately by replying to the message, and please delete it from your system. Thank you. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:10:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2AD106571E; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8188FC12; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14935EBC0A; Wed, 6 May 2009 11:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:10:22 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Olivier Mueller Message-Id: <20090506111022.05d06f1a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <1241616121.16418.109.camel@ompc.insign.local> References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <1241616121.16418.109.camel@ompc.insign.local> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data (4 million files) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:10:25 -0000 In response to Olivier Mueller : > > Yes, it is one of the best options. My initial goal was to delete all > files older than N days by cron (find | xargs | rm, etc.), but if each > cronjob takes 2 hours (and takes so much cpu time), it's probably not > the best way. > > I'll make some more tests on an test-server later this week and speak > with the devs. Thanks again for your very constructive feedback! Based on your comments here, it really sounds like your devs need to implement some sort of cache cleaning algo into their code. If it's just deleting the oldest files, then you could probably run it far more frequently if you simply created a new cache directory each hour, and deleted the previous one. Honestly, I'm really confused -- if you can just throw away the cache each night, then why are you caching to begin with? If you just need temp files, why doesn't the app clean up its temp files when it's done with them? If you have access to the developers, I think you'll be able to come up with a much better solution by working with them. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:11:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5601065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f229.google.com (mail-gx0-f229.google.com [209.85.217.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825258FC16 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by gxk13 with SMTP id 13so448405gxk.7 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 08:11:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200905061056.43181.lists@jnielsen.net> Received: by 10.90.82.17 with SMTP id f17mr1101570agb.14.1241622688905; Wed, 06 May 2009 08:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0016361e896051401204693fcf74@google.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:11:28 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: John Nielsen , af300wsm@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?T2RoaWFtYm8gGyRCJW8lNyVzJUglcxsoQg==?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:11:30 -0000 On May 6, 2009 8:56am, John Nielsen wrote: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:39:24 am Odhiambo $B%o%7%s%H%s(B wrote: > Is there a reason you need to control the addresses used by your clients > (other than the prefix)? I set up IPv6 on my LAN and while I have DHCPd > running on the router for IPv4 addresses rtadvd is all I needed for IPv6. > Clients assign themselves addresses based on the network prefix they > learn from route solicitation and their own MAC address. That's supposed > to be one of the "reduced administration" benefits of the new > protocol. :) Thanks for reminding me of the flow in which this happens. Seems like I, at sometime, got the idea that it was the router that dished back a unique IP based on clients MAC and so forth. However, it seems to me now that the router was only supposed to dish out the prefix, ie network id, and the client would take that prefix and generate a unique IP based on its MAC. Thanks again, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:21:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364EB106566B; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888378FC0C; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so227626ewy.43 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 08:21:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to:cc :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gXhWIWVt9Q7HU+LqJgIiydU6bx5wzagqcNGaIZL+fYo=; b=k8n8bccvypwAf1uVYC9+dPdB/Aykx/ICKDmyonPZR+zpArvKfYfWAo1cmRpw8udNGs AwwodEG5DXUPMToRF46SkBYj/VLplbtgy+wlnGp3mUDOFiJ8YKe/XR4ndHbh3O7Z6n9C NfFeRsc+sE6U8SMTD2mqIQU5dO+sLd5C/iCnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=KeCLGOQOj+nxD2QIC9YRCQ/r+Vn8SzRBjWOEHFdske/Vk5mi1gC7tscpjjNUcaTbbf DZ4kK8uwoQGgUzuvp41hP+IkZmKy5Fu0VO9cJNpz8a997ze0OlKsuxoIM8NPffBsYev5 Y1UJjWDtDN7J0p0kNZj+aWLGTFfdwE9b2Gyqs= Received: by 10.210.130.13 with SMTP id c13mr1680162ebd.94.1241623259400; Wed, 06 May 2009 08:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?172.16.16.200? (dsl212102251063.4dsl.de [212.102.251.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1842568eyg.7.2009.05.06.08.20.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 06 May 2009 08:20:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mister Olli To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:20:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Assign IP address and hostname via kernel parameter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mister.olli@googlemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:21:02 -0000 Hi, is there a way to configure IP address and hostname on freebsd systems via kernel command line parameters? I have some freebsd systems in as xen domU's and it would be really great to be able to set the ip address & hostname within the configuration file for the domU. I'm aware that I could configure a static mac address and use DHCP, but with several layer2 segments on different XEN hosts setting up DHCP correctly would be a real pain ;-) --- Regards Mr. Olli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:25:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E78106568E for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA3208FC18 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 91301 invoked by uid 89); 6 May 2009 15:27:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 6 May 2009 15:27:04 -0000 Message-ID: <4A01ABE5.5000508@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:25:25 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: af300wsm@gmail.com References: <0016361e896051401204693fcf74@google.com> In-Reply-To: <0016361e896051401204693fcf74@google.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odhiambo_=3F=3F=3F?=, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3F=3F?= , John Nielsen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:25:39 -0000 af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > On May 6, 2009 8:56am, John Nielsen wrote: >> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:39:24 am Odhiambo $B%o%7%s%H%s(B wrote: > > >> Is there a reason you need to control the addresses used by your clients > >> (other than the prefix)? I set up IPv6 on my LAN and while I have DHCPd > >> running on the router for IPv4 addresses rtadvd is all I needed for IPv6. > >> Clients assign themselves addresses based on the network prefix they > >> learn from route solicitation and their own MAC address. That's supposed > >> to be one of the "reduced administration" benefits of the new > >> protocol. :) > > > Thanks for reminding me of the flow in which this happens. Seems like I, > at sometime, got the idea that it was the router that dished back a > unique IP based on clients MAC and so forth. However, it seems to me now > that the router was only supposed to dish out the prefix, ie network id, > and the client would take that prefix and generate a unique IP based on > its MAC. Have a peruse of this RFC (stateless autoconfig): http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4862.txt Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:28:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017B11065690 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F2A8FC1C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so196661fxm.43 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 08:28:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cv9FaRwkUvONSCIZzY0mbY0XxZD5jfOj0Z7KMtTwpwI=; b=ibt2Dnx70bWtEwFrA90cwEx1FleopCX0BE1Rmfbj/sMK4iI1hLp2OqScWg+VG8ummV nNnSZRpTykUR8iedgbfJlAZ7107m0VoUW5RPwtComW/8zocJSiQBymYVIKL7OaeXW7I/ QsFe8kRF8KTSZ7sTupnjT4/HcnUVLcP2okXr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kmVtsgRzNb2iAhfiyRS0ixDNrhfofeqXtJEra8WiNoL0a/FjqpT7wc56czOLYKh0yP lhwuvCxi996bQ+dh4s7kxdlDoe2bvCPTVGRxqnaHU3MMftedYYcZx1SIPllv1ryfwKZH Wn/MtgbSUqc3+qz+23omhJ6KZWslVpn+oW3h4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.127.8 with SMTP id e8mr1013024fas.81.1241623724837; Wed, 06 May 2009 08:28:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Preferred client for DynDNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:28:47 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > There appear to be several clients capable of working with DynDNS.com > services here: > > > E.g., dns/inadyn, dns/ipcheck > > Can anyone make recommendations? My goal in using DynDNS is to allow > remote SSH logins to a machine behind a router at my house (using a > common ISP). > > Thanks, > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > I use ddclient. It was the first one I tried, and works well, so I haven't tried anything else. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:29:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD4B10656AD for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E0B8FC29 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (mwinf2352 [10.232.4.152]) by mwinf2305.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 499B11C050AB for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:58:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2352.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C6637000194; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:58:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (AAnnecy-103-1-10-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.200.48]) by mwinf2352.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 807A77000137; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:58:33 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090506145833526.807A77000137@mwinf2352.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: e-masson0330 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDDC170ED; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:58:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ScSnUMDQdjzO; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:58:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0FCDB17108; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:58:28 +0200 (CEST) To: Odhiambo =?gb2312?B?pe+lt6Xzpcil8w==?= From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com> (odhiambo@gmail.com's message of "Wed, 6 May 2009 17:39:24 +0300") References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> <991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p3 i386 Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:58:25 +0200 Message-ID: <867i0uuvla.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:29:34 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Odhiambo =A5=EF=A5=B7=A5=F3=A5=C8=A5=F3 writes: Hi, > Nice question. I wonder if isc-dhcp-server can already handle IPv6 > addresses. Seems it can since 4.x branch. But, is there any reason to use dhcp on ipv6 nets as the protocol has been designed with autoconfiguration in mind ? Regards --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- J'aimerai créer mon propre newsgroup "fr.mincir.vitalite" [...] Ainsi, cela permettrait aux personnes de se rendre directement dans mon newsgroup plutot que moi-même de publier des annonces dans les autres -+-LH in Guide du Neuneu Usenet : Mince, Neuneu investit (dans) fufe -+- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:40:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C5E1065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ACD8FC1B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49A97E837; Wed, 6 May 2009 07:40:43 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:40:41 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <20090506093117.GA64688@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090506093117.GA64688@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905061740.41949.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: make - reassign variable using if-then ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:40:45 -0000 On Wednesday 06 May 2009 11:31:17 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm trying to build gcc43 on alpha 6.4. > In /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile I have: > > # grep NOT_FOR_ARCHS /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile > NOT_FOR_ARCHS= alpha ia64 powerpc > # > > In /etc/make.conf I have: > > .if ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc43*} > NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64 > USE_GCC=4.3+ > .endif > > This used to work fine until some update. Not anymore. > The second setting is being used, i.e. the port is being built > with gcc43. But the NOT_FOR_ARCHS is not changed, so I have > to do it manually each time. > > So I tried to experiment with changing variable values withing if-then. Your only option is overriding in /usr/portslang/gcc43/Makefile.local. This is because make.conf is read *before* the Makefile and the Makefile simply overrides your values. Makefile.local is read *after* the Makefile. csup will leave it alone, however portsnap will delete the entire directory before upgrading the port, so your Makefile.local will be shot. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:43:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029DF106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@QEMG.org) Received: from mailserv.mta.ca (mailserv.mta.ca [138.73.1.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C713F8FC0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@QEMG.org) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (helo=qemg.org) by mailserv.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1M1jHE-0000Fz-RI; Wed, 06 May 2009 12:43:21 -0300 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:47:12 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Hamilton-Wright To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Message-ID: References: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xdvi with amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:43:23 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> Exactly which fonts are you having trouble with? I can tell you >> whether I can reproduce the issue under 7.1. > > Nothing exotic at all: cmr10.300.pk > > The error message is: > > $ xdvi memo > Note: overstrike characters may be incorrect. >>>> xdvi: Wrong number of bits stored: char. 68, font cmr10 > $ For what it is worth, I don't seem to be able to produce this with any DVI files I create. If you have one in particular you would like me to verify, you can email it to me. What version of xdvi are you running? I have a recent port: $ xdvi -version xdvik version 22.84.10 (@(#)Motif Version 2.2.3, runtime version 2.2) Libraries: kpathsea version 3.5.2, T1lib version 5.1.2 A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:44:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC64B1065676 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=3708b6a46=echen@nyx.com) Received: from CHMAILGW02.tradearca.com (chmailgw02.nyx.com [198.140.49.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9258C8FC08 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=3708b6a46=echen@nyx.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,303,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="77173601" Received: from nysecorpsmtp01.corp.nyse.com (HELO nysecorpsmtp01.nyse.com) ([159.125.152.166]) by CHMAILGW02-int.tradearca.com with ESMTP; 06 May 2009 10:44:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBC9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> To: "Gary Gatten" X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Eddie Chen Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:44:46 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NYSECORPSMTP01/NYSE(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 05/06/2009 11:44:49 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:44:51 -0000 Gary, Yes I am look a retrunCode from "put/get/reanme". We run and transmit very large amount of data and jobs thru out the evening. These jobs runs under Linux and AIX. - This was not an issue on the mainframe, the mainframe ftp client support return code. Currently, we have two solutions, write script(s) to look for "226" and "250" and/or PERL ftp that reads ftp command. Reading the ftp commands seems to be better, because it will exit(rc) if any of "put" or "rename" failed. Thanks. "Gary Gatten" To "Eddie Chen" , 05/06/2009 11:08 AM cc Subject RE: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Can I assume you want return codes to know if the file was transferred correctly? Several years ago I was involved in architecting a middleware app for file/data exchange. For ftp delivery (and others) we'd check the file size locally, put the file, then check the file size on the remote side. Not fool-proof, such as CRC or Hash of somekind, but pretty good. Use bin mode for everything. Also, maybe as part of the file record itself you can embed a hash and have the client check this when processing the file on their end. Unfortunately when using ftp you never know what the ftp server supports, so unless you can dictate "supported" ftp servers, you can't get too fancy. G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Eddie Chen Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Lowell, On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I Googled "fetch", can't found the download URL for "fetch". It seems "fetch(1)" will get file(s)... We mostly push the file(s) to the clients. Thanks. Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc 05/05/2009 Eddie Chen 08:56 PM Subject Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Please respond to freebsd-questions @freebsd.org Eddie Chen writes: > I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code. > > However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing it. > It's actually trivial to implement this feature. > > If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client. I've never used return codes with ftp(1), but I have used them with fetch(1), which is also part of the base system. Have you tried fetch? If it doesn't meet your needs, can you explain why? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ Visit our website at http://www.nyse.com **************************************************** Note: The information contained in this message and any attachment to it is privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:45:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7471065672 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957B88FC0C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 22533 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 15:45:11 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 May 2009 15:45:10 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3C7ED5084A; Wed, 6 May 2009 11:45:08 -0400 (EDT) To: Eddie Chen References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:45:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Eddie Chen's message of "Wed\, 6 May 2009 10\:24\:14 -0400") Message-ID: <44zldqutff.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:45:12 -0000 Eddie Chen writes: > On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I > Googled "fetch", can't found the download URL for "fetch". If you need the same behaviour from your ftp clients on all platforms, you will need to install a different ftp client on at least some of them. The native ftp(1) programs are quite different on all three of those platforms are quite different. I hear ncftp is nice. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:47:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F2A1065701; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jt@0xabadba.be) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139F98FC1B; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jt@0xabadba.be) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so255427ewy.43 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 08:47:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.7.209 with SMTP id 59mr783418wep.213.1241623627220; Wed, 06 May 2009 08:27:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [192.52.218.40] In-Reply-To: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> References: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> From: jt@0xabadba.be Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:26:47 -0400 Message-ID: To: mister.olli@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Assign IP address and hostname via kernel parameter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:47:43 -0000 Hi, I would take a look at sysctl this system takes care of kernel parameters. There are a few man pages that delineate what is read only. I'm sure you are aware of setting the hostname at boot time. It seemed like you were more curious about on the fly. I'm not familiar with xen domU's hope this helps, =jt On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Mister Olli wrote: > Hi, > > is there a way to configure IP address and hostname on freebsd systems > via kernel command line parameters? > > I have some freebsd systems in as xen domU's and it would be really > great to be able to set the ip address & hostname within the > configuration file for the domU. > > I'm aware that I could configure a static mac address and use DHCP, but > with several layer2 segments on different XEN hosts setting up DHCP > correctly would be a real pain ;-) > > --- > Regards > Mr. Olli > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:50:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EBF106568B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF258FC19 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46FnRju022445; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:49:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id CD54A5BA60; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:49:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896DD5BA54; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:49:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 May 2009 10:49:05 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:48:39 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBCD@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <44zldqutff.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Thread-Index: AcnOYc8XfUAricY2RdiGrApSgD32QwAADD8g References: <44zldqutff.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Lowell Gilbert" , "Eddie Chen" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2009 15:49:05.0315 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F577F30:01C9CE62] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:50:26 -0000 Yep - or at least make sure the client is in "debug" mode - it may spew out the messages/codes you're wanting in debug mode. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:45 AM To: Eddie Chen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP Eddie Chen writes: > On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I > Googled "fetch", can't found the download URL for "fetch". If you need the same behaviour from your ftp clients on all platforms, you will need to install a different ftp client on at least some of them. The native ftp(1) programs are quite different on all three of those platforms are quite different. I hear ncftp is nice. --=20 Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:50:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56726106570A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584378FC22 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46FnrAq032788 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:49:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n46Faqrf032600; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:36:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:36:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: af300wsm@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> Message-ID: References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:50:50 -0000 start rtadvd on interface On Wed, 6 May 2009, af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other helpful > links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering, how do I > configure the router to assign addresses to hosts. > > Thanks, > Andy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:50:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0231065718; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5848D8FC23; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46FnrAs032788; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:49:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n46FYOgk032592; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:34:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:34:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Olivier Mueller In-Reply-To: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> Message-ID: References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:50:51 -0000 > -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and > sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs). > It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5 > with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x > ( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) ) > if you would use no raid or software raid it will behave normally. it takes <30 minutes for me to delete 300GB of squid files on ordinary SATA disk , millions of small files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:50:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7814F1065719; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5854C8FC2F; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46FnrAu032788; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:49:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n46FaBfN032593; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:36:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:36:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Message-ID: References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Olivier Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:50:51 -0000 > means you had 6 million files. df -i would have been more useful in > the output above. > > This brings a number of questions up: > * Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition? That's he showed mount output - he has softdeps on. > * Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000? Again, going to make a big > difference. on 7200 RPM ordinary SATA disk i deleted 15 million files taking 300GB (squid cache) in less than 30 minutes. for sure it's because of his "hardware raid". i've NEVER seen "hardware raid" that is actually faster than non-raid config, or gmirror/gstripe config. usually it's far much slower From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 15:57:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41CF106566B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE8E8FC17 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: FROM dell1 (Unknown [141.211.15.39]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4A01B351.C067D.26112 ; Authuser web; 6 May 2009 11:57:05 EDT Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:56:12 -0400 From: William Bulley To: Jimmie James Message-ID: <20090506155612.GA99732@dell1> Mail-Followup-To: Jimmie James , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Repeatable X lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:57:08 -0000 According to Jimmie James on Sat, 05/02/09 at 15:46: > > When using the xv output driver for vlc or mplayer, X will lockup, crash > instantly, trashing the screen and forcing a reboot > Image of screen corruption: > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/xcrash.jpg > > This just started manifesting in the past week or so. I have experienced the same problem, but I didn't see any suggestions or answers to your posting. Have you had any success yet with this? Have you tried any other output drivers? This is something I plan to try in the next few days. My system is i386 with Intel 915 graphics on the motherboard. Xorg 7.4 runs fine. When I run mplayer from the command line, in an xterm under open-motif, the X Windows session dies and I am tossed back to the vty. When I similarly run vlc from the command line, the screen is locked in an even worse state than your above URL. I am forced to ssh(1) in from another FreeBSD workstation to reboot. Before the reboot, ps(1) reports no processes running xorg or any of its child processes, it seems as if my video hardware has been left in some ugly, locked-up, unusable state. What is interesting to me is that the same flash file that causes vlc and mplayer to crash runs just fine in ffplay(1) (part of ffmpeg port). Yet at least vlc uses ffmpeg, while it doesn't look like mplayer does. This is 7.2-PRERELEASE built on 24 Apr 2009 with the ports of mplayer and vlc built on 2 May 2009 following a csup(1) of complete ports tree on either 24 Apr or 25 Apr - so approximately the same timeframe as you. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 16:00:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E95C1065678 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18228FC20 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225C33D29E; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:00:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n46G0WQX009704; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:00:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:00:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "giorgio novello" Message-Id: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:00:41 -0000 10 GOTO 10 On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" wrote: > Do you want obtain new market share? > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best > seller FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals. There wouldn't be Visual BEGINNERs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code, but isual PROFESSIONALSs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code, Visual Pasic, VP. It already exists: The tools for making Qt and Gtk+ applications. Then, there are NetBeans and Eclipse and so on - everything already there. :-) Furthermore, FreeBSD isn't sold. So it doesn't have to care about market share and "best seller". And for the weekend: 10 GOTO KNEIPE 20 INPUT BIER -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 16:09:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199251065672 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4078FC0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA6B34B7B; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:09:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:09:52 +0200 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090506160952.GB1154@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:09:55 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 05:34:24PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and > > > > sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs). > > It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5 > > with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x > > ( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) ) > > if you would use no raid or software raid it will behave normally. > > it takes <30 minutes for me to delete 300GB of squid files on > ordinary SATA disk , millions of small files. Alternatively, you could assign a dedicated filesystem for the cache and when cleaning up: * stop the app (or disable caching), * umount * newfs * mount * restart the app (or reenable caching). newfs is MUCH faster than manually deleting gazillions of files. If you don't like the (small) downtime during newfs, you could also play with two or more dedicated filesystems, and rotate between them (though that would be a waste of disk space). I can't recall how many times I've used a fresh newfs-ed filesystem instead of removing stuff one file at a time. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 16:20:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5509106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3F78FC12 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C81326E5; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:20:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:20:51 +0200 From: cpghost To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090506162051.GC1154@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:20:54 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:00:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" wrote: > > Do you want obtain new market share? > > > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best > > seller > > FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals. There > wouldn't be Visual BEGINNERs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction > Code, but isual PROFESSIONALSs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction > Code, Visual Pasic, VP. It already exists: The tools for making > Qt and Gtk+ applications. Then, there are NetBeans and Eclipse > and so on - everything already there. :-) Well, programming languages and environments are a matter of personal choice and taste, and there *are* coders who use VB professionally, i.e. to make a living. Actually an awful lot of them (*shudder*). And let's not forget Mono for the runtime arch, which runs on FreeBSD: /usr/ports/lang/mono If VB runs under Wine (?), it could theorically be used to create NET code which could run via mono, i.e. all under FreeBSD. Of course, software written with wxWidgets, Qt, et. al. (either with C++ or indirectly using Perl, Python, ... bindings) would be much more portable... ;-) > And for the weekend: > 10 GOTO KNEIPE > 20 INPUT BIER You forgot the most important step: 30 GOTO 20 -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 16:38:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5C2106566C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sisson.j@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754198FC0C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sisson.j@gmail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so306993ewy.43 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 09:38:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=eLBCU0w0nkhv6j6NwMyOuHlZO1u3Ca8lR/k/8FXRFSM=; b=ZFpWEX3bJ4kgwqTwTRrjjp+b07WdomQ/zNoj1lfnQmblDyxiXtL3poZSNBJai/lksV ueUKs5pWO4JkxZgEmeIj63/L6qtt1hM1x5rZvPFK6tn0vckPeFUl3BrNTOXPgn/z9McW 6KFGAmGpADiH0d8ZqTGJ2X8Cp+0BiMq9oNuec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=AMdCeZnmJ6vkLaMCEDWnK7SQRHHaYUIeesqdURx0918l7WF3XYYWHSm2t6ri2sjv1I Aje7uf5Boqn+OkVpLCHCuFhydK6mOGnvwvYn6KXHNZZSF6IjMFr0qq2BM7fpPKqvFGji PA2JQFbW5ixaB5ZAPyOXX4dUG+Trf7GjeyFk4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.56.9 with SMTP id e9mr6247734eba.7.1241626125524; Wed, 06 May 2009 09:08:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:08:45 -0500 Message-ID: <4297a9020905060908p664392f8v8f35b77509105ff0@mail.gmail.com> From: J Sisson To: giorgio novello Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:38:28 -0000 That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and flood it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if they booted without a GUI. And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you know...for performance reasons. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello wrote: > Do you want obtain new market share? > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best > seller > > > > Regards > > Giorgio Novello > > Vb developer > > Italy > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Computers are like air conditioners... They quit working when you open Windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 17:08:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891051065678; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from mx0.gid.co.uk (mx0.gid.co.uk [194.32.164.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E020D8FC16; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (80-46-130-69.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.46.130.69]) by mx0.gid.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n46Gr0bq026326; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:53:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.28] ([194.32.164.6]) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46GqrWL062404; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:52:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Message-Id: <57A9FCBA-CBCB-45D2-9B95-5E5DBC0DB964@gid.co.uk> From: Bob Bishop To: mister.olli@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:52:53 +0100 References: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Assign IP address and hostname via kernel parameter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:08:41 -0000 Hi, On 6 May 2009, at 16:20, Mister Olli wrote: > is there a way to configure IP address and hostname on freebsd systems > via kernel command line parameters? [etc] When running diskless, the loader sets kernel variables like: boot.netif.gateway="192.168.198.1" boot.netif.hwaddr="00:15:17:47:14:fc" boot.netif.ip="192.168.198.8" boot.netif.netmask="255.255.255.0" to values obtained from BOOTP or DHCP, and the right things happen. I guess you could just set these in loader.conf or at the loader prompt. -- Bob Bishop rb@gid.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 17:16:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F306106566C; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benjamin@seattlefenix.net) Received: from mx1.seattlefenix.net (mx1.seattlefenix.net [208.75.57.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CA88FC14; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benjamin@seattlefenix.net) Received: from [10.0.0.228] (unknown [64.81.172.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.seattlefenix.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E9633F69D; Wed, 6 May 2009 10:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:59:46 -0700 From: Benjamin Krueger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Olivier Mueller , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:16:21 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> means you had 6 million files. df -i would have been more useful in > > >> the output above. >> >> This brings a number of questions up: >> * Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition? That's > > he showed mount output - he has softdeps on. > >> * Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000? Again, going to make a big >> difference. > > on 7200 RPM ordinary SATA disk i deleted 15 million files taking 300GB > (squid cache) in less than 30 minutes. > > for sure it's because of his "hardware raid". > > i've NEVER seen "hardware raid" that is actually faster than non-raid > config, or gmirror/gstripe config. > > usually it's far much slower Sorry, but my experience with that very server using a P400 controller with 256MB write cache is very different. My benchmarks showed that controller using Raid5 (with only 4 disks) is significantly faster than software layouts. The days when hardware controllers could automatically be considered slow are long gone. The hardware does get faster over time. Don't make any assumptions without doing benchmarks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 17:39:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E491065672 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FAD8FC13 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090506173944165.TIGC18570@hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:39:44 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (moab.polands.org [172.16.1.8]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46HdhL0007836 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:39:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 69.129.174.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:39:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <99a2e3a48c28263e579f05d58d44b13e.squirrel@email.polands.org> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:39:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Doug Poland" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: Source update tag RELENG_7_2 != 7.2-RELEASE ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:39:45 -0000 Hello, Yesterday I did a source update on an i386 box to 7.2. My supfile uses RELENG_7_2 host# more /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/supfile *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default delete use-rel-suffix compress *default host=cvsup8.us.freebsd.org *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2 src-all After canonical steps: host# csup -L2 /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/supfile host# cd /usr/src host# make buildworld buildkernel host# make installkernel host# make installworld host# mergemaster -iU host# shutdown -r now I get a kernel identified as: host# uname -r 7.2-RC2 So, I'm pretty sure I'm running 7.2-RELEASE. But my kernel still says 7.2-RC2. Did I do something wrong here? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:20:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943D610656A9 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650288FC1E for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from vdsl-151-118-132-54.dnvr.qwest.net ([151.118.132.54] helo=mail.mikestammer.com) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1M1l9H-000Az0-RK; Wed, 06 May 2009 17:43:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.240] (unknown [192.168.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric@mikestammer.com) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E2BAB8AA; Wed, 6 May 2009 11:43:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 151.118.132.54 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+7PUFPBow3VZAQLu3QcRudc+LDo21uKJ0= Message-ID: <4A01CC33.8000205@mikestammer.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:43:15 -0600 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Poland References: <99a2e3a48c28263e579f05d58d44b13e.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <99a2e3a48c28263e579f05d58d44b13e.squirrel@email.polands.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Source update tag RELENG_7_2 != 7.2-RELEASE ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:20:11 -0000 Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > Yesterday I did a source update on an i386 box to 7.2. My > supfile uses RELENG_7_2 > > > So, I'm pretty sure I'm running 7.2-RELEASE. But my kernel still says > 7.2-RC2. Did I do something wrong here? > > my guess is cvsup8.us.freebsd.org doesnt have the RELEASE code on it yet. Does /usr/src/UPDATING mention 7.2-RELEASE or is the last item about an ssl fix? if its ssl, pick a new mirror and try again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:10:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026CC1065677 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736E28FC1F for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46I9kSn013174; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:09:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id E9C1381450; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:09:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B698144E; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:09:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 May 2009 13:09:42 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:08:46 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data Thread-Index: AcnObqfHTigM1AG/QCKN2todI36EswABn39A References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Benjamin Krueger" , "Wojciech Puchar" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2009 18:09:42.0075 (UTC) FILETIME=[D40AE8B0:01C9CE75] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:24:20 +0000 Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Olivier Mueller , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:10:39 -0000 It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires parity calcs. Most of my benchmarking was done on SCO OpenServer and Novell UnixWare and Netware, but hardware RAID controllers were always faster and of course required far less host CPU resources. Raid 0/1/10/0+1/whatever arrays, I recall weren't as drastic, but I can't imagine the controller making as big a difference as the drives in the array - unless of course the drive for said controller sux!
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:31:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71738106564A; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741738FC13; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46IUIVG034027; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:30:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n46IUH2R034024; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:30:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:30:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Benjamin Krueger In-Reply-To: <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> Message-ID: References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Olivier Mueller , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:31:14 -0000 >> config, or gmirror/gstripe config. >> >> usually it's far much slower > > Sorry, but my experience with that very server using a P400 controller with > 256MB write cache is very different. My benchmarks showed that controller > using Raid5 (with only 4 disks) is significantly faster than software > layouts. possibly with RAID5, but for sure slower than single drive > The days when hardware controllers could automatically be considered slow are > long gone. unfortunately not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:46:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3600106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=370bb7749=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755558FC0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=370bb7749=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,303,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="10549789" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 06 May 2009 13:17:29 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B056A810B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:17:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:17:29 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <7B3E8A7E95D544718E0AA242@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:46:44 -0000 I'm going to take another stab at this. I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD. Last time I asked the question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic. I later discovered that there is a amd-utils in ports and an amd directory in contrib under source. So, is amd a kernel module? A separate program I compile? Should I build the ports amd-util instead? Will that give me autofs functionality? I've searched the web for howtos, but they all seem to be for LInux, not FreeBSD. It even seems the latest stuff for amd on FSBD is for 6.1. (I just upgraded to 7.2 STABLE today.) Has anyone ever done this? Is anyone successfully using autofs on FBSD? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:49:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AA7106566C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2C08FC16 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KJ800JR3KAP9K81@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 14:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A01DBCE.9070304@optiksecurite.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:49:50 -0400 From: Martin Turgeon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Advices for a jailed MySQL server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:49:38 -0000 Hi everyone, I'm starting to build a new dedicated MySQL server. I will be using FreeBSD 7.2-REL. My plan is to jail the latest version of MySQL 5.0 and to put the MySQL data outside the jail. My objective is to be able to update MySQL without down time. My objective would be to create another up to date MySQL jail and when I'm ready to make the switch, just point the new jail to the data outside the jail using something like a nullfs mount. Is someone using something like this? Did someone have any advice about how to update a MySQL server without down time? Did someone have any advice on how to tune a dedicated MySQL server running FreeBSD 7.2 (Dual core Xeon, 4G RAM, mirror RAID on a PERC5 controler 2x146G 15K)? Thanks everyone for sharing your precious knowledge :) Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:50:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0AA1065670; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE72B8FC27; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46Io6v1018552; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:50:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 47FCA8A4CB; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:50:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076378A4F9; 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Wed, 6 May 2009 18:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027228FC1C; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29BA0EBC0A; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:29:51 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Gary Gatten" Message-Id: <20090506142951.2a27284d.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:51:00 +0000 Cc: Mueller , Benjamin Krueger , Olivier, Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:29:54 -0000 In response to "Gary Gatten" : > It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many > many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires > parity calcs. Most of my benchmarking was done on SCO OpenServer and > Novell UnixWare and Netware, but hardware RAID controllers were always > faster and of course required far less host CPU resources. Raid > 0/1/10/0+1/whatever arrays, I recall weren't as drastic, but I can't > imagine the controller making as big a difference as the drives in the > array - unless of course the drive for said controller sux! Keep in mind that there are a LOT of RAID controllers out there, and yes, some of them suck royally. Especially the consumer-grade stuff intended for people to use on their home systems. I'd be willing to bet that software RAID is faster than 90% of the consumer grade RAID cards, and probably more reliable than most of them as well. Controllers make a huge difference, even in server class RAID (in my experience). There is a significant gap in performance between the good stuff and the good enough stuff. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:31:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7871B1065672; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433CA8FC1B; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46IUUvo002033; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:30:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 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LiIKPC9mb250PgoK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:32:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843A51065676; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5A48FC0A; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46IVGYR034047; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:31:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n46IVGx9034044; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:31:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:31:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Gatten In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Message-ID: References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:51:30 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Benjamin Krueger , Olivier Mueller , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Bill Moran Subject: RE: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:32:12 -0000 > It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many > many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires maybe with RAID5, but using RAID5 today (huge disk sizes, little sense to save on disk space) instead of RAID1/10 doesn't make much sense, as RAID5 is slow on writes by design From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 18:32:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE9E10656DF; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B5D8FC17; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46IVsx2034077; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:31:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n46IVshV034074; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:31:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:31:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20090506142951.2a27284d.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Message-ID: References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090506142951.2a27284d.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:51:41 +0000 Cc: Gary Gatten , Benjamin Krueger , Olivier Mueller , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 18:32:47 -0000 > yes, some of them suck royally. you should rather say "some of them doesn't suck". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 19:07:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617C21065677 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFC48FC0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n46J6Kvk095505; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:06:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n46J6Jtx095504; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:06:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:06:19 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Marc Coyles Message-ID: <20090506190619.GB95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <009401c9ce29$42b9bea0$c82d3be0$@wakefield.sch.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <009401c9ce29$42b9bea0$c82d3be0$@wakefield.sch.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump snapshot issue... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:07:10 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:01:36AM +0100, Marc Coyles wrote: > > One thing you should try is to remove the dump_snapshot files, > > because > > they are supposed to be unlinked when the dump starts anyway, so > > they > > shouldn't be sticking around. > > > > Also, look for file flags on the directories, or ACLs, etc. > > > > And consider the permissions you're running dump with. > > > > Dump is running as root via cron / initiated by hand. > ACLs not used. > Have removed all existing dump_snapshot files, and > have also removed and recreated all .snap directories. > > S'now working fine for all mountpoints, except /home... > Is /home really a separate file system on your system? Or is it just a directory in another filesystem? ////jerry > mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error > dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory > > It doesn't appear to proceed "as normal" either... as you can see below, > it ends the previous dump, starts the /home dump, gets an I/O error, > then proceeds straight to the /usr dump. The /home dump never gets > performed. If I remove the -L option, everything goes thru fine, but > complains about lack of -L flag... > > DUMP: DUMP IS DONE > mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error > dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory > > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed May 6 08:30:31 2009 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/da0s1e (/usr) to standard output > > > Fsck finds no errors on /home... point to note... mksnap_ffs CAN create > /home/.snap/dump_snapshot as I'm sat looking at the file, however, once > it's created it it's as tho it can't access it. The file is there, it > wasn't before I ran the script. It's created it as root:operator, perms > 400. I can open it in pico, add content to it, and save it happily. So > I'm baffled! > > M > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 19:09:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D30C1065690 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E4E8FC19 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28CF0EBC0A; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:09:33 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Martin Turgeon Message-Id: <20090506150933.d0ef0178.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4A01DBCE.9070304@optiksecurite.com> References: <4A01DBCE.9070304@optiksecurite.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Advices for a jailed MySQL server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:09:36 -0000 In response to Martin Turgeon : > Hi everyone, > > I'm starting to build a new dedicated MySQL server. I will be using > FreeBSD 7.2-REL. My plan is to jail the latest version of MySQL 5.0 and > to put the MySQL data outside the jail. My objective is to be able to > update MySQL without down time. My objective would be to create another > up to date MySQL jail and when I'm ready to make the switch, just point > the new jail to the data outside the jail using something like a nullfs > mount. > > Is someone using something like this? > > Did someone have any advice about how to update a MySQL server without > down time? > > Did someone have any advice on how to tune a dedicated MySQL server > running FreeBSD 7.2 (Dual core Xeon, 4G RAM, mirror RAID on a PERC5 > controler 2x146G 15K)? > > Thanks everyone for sharing your precious knowledge :) I expect that what you're trying to do will work, however it's horrifically error-prone during the upgrade procedure (what if you forget to stop the first MySQL before you start the new one!) If you need to do anything zero-downtime, then you probably want to run multiple MySQL instances and use database replication to keep the data in sync. That way you just switch which DB is master, then upgrade the slave ... rinse/repeat. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 19:10:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEB91065679 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F798FC0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n46J9733095523; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:09:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n46J971A095522; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:09:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:09:07 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: giorgio novello , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:10:01 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:00:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > 10 GOTO 10 > > On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" wrote: > > Do you want obtain new market share? > > > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best > > seller > > FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals. Everyone is a beginner sometime. So, FreeBSD is for beginners. Otherwise there would be no FreeBSD --- or you. ////jerry > There > wouldn't be Visual BEGINNERs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction > Code, but isual PROFESSIONALSs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction > Code, Visual Pasic, VP. It already exists: The tools for making > Qt and Gtk+ applications. Then, there are NetBeans and Eclipse > and so on - everything already there. :-) > > Furthermore, FreeBSD isn't sold. So it doesn't have to care > about market share and "best seller". > > And for the weekend: > 10 GOTO KNEIPE > 20 INPUT BIER > > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 19:18:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B21106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C365F8FC12 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46JIcq8002713; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:18:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4E7AABA8C; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:18:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:18:38 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20090506191838.GA91210@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <7B3E8A7E95D544718E0AA242@utd65257.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7B3E8A7E95D544718E0AA242@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:18:41 -0000 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:17:29PM +0000, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'm going to take another stab at this. >=20 > I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD.=20 There is a libautofs library and a mount_autofs program in my 7.2 source tree, but I'm not sure what it is, since it's not installed or built on my amd64 box. > Last time I asked the > question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic. I > later discovered that there is a amd-utils in ports and an amd > directory in contrib under source. >=20 > So, is amd a kernel module? A separate program I compile?=20 It is a program that is part of the base system. See it's manual page; 'man amd' =46rom amd(8): The amd utility is a daemon that automatically mounts file systems whenever a file or directory within that file system is accessed. File systems are automatically unmounted when they appear to be quiescent. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoB4o4ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWCNQCgkafMiYmgsFcvs02F93x2KLKC 1tEAn2nBtKClJvz6gkzli6bmPZlCW/i3 =mszZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 19:21:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8E01065693; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3188FC2A; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46JLjhf002316; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:21:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n46JLjhf002316 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1241637707; bh=Jl9iT116utVryz/yVoKH9Ycx4vi1/dRMC6BdjU1Bvn4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A01E343.4020608@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2006=20May=202009=2020:21:39=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Gary=20Gatten=20|CC:=20freeb sd-performance@freebsd.org,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subjec t:=20Re:=20filesystem:=2012h=20to=20delete=2032GB=20of=20data|Refe rences:=20<70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD4@WADPEXV0.wadde ll.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD4@W ADPEXV0.waddell.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20 multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"a pplication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigD 7935878E099234D25665A93"; b=O/hp7luaPoCu2nJB2HIvnhkwnwWnldUymDndQQOw8eOMC3vBzY1aNGZl6ednKAS+e efA1tzCqc+2+Rqd90abJlam3946weQ0hzkxb4J/v6asi3N4bfq73iB3H5B9doDKMo7 0o2idp2vxpEmozGavC/krcdGE/3jdDQI8EtgkG9c= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A01E343.4020608@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:21:39 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Gatten References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD4@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD4@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD7935878E099234D25665A93" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:21:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD7935878E099234D25665A93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Gatten wrote: > OT now, but in high i/o envs with high concurrency needs, RAID5 is > still the way to go, esp if 90% of i/o is reads. Of course it depends > on file size / type as well... Anyway, let's sum it up with "a > storage subsystem is only as fast as its slowest link" It's not just the balance of reads over writes. It's the size and sequen= tial location of the IO requests. RAID5 is good for sequential reads -- eg. streaming a video -- where the system can read whole blocks from all the drives involved, calculate parity over the whole lot and then push all th= at blob of data up to the CPU. RAID5 is pretty pessimal if your usage pattern is small reads or writes randomly scattered over your storage area -- eg. typical RDBMS behaviour -- which works a great deal better on RAID10. I'd also contend that the essential difference between a really good fast= hardware raid controller and something disappointingly mundane is a decen= t amount of non-volatile cache memory. For most H/W raid that equates to using a battery backup unit. I've been thinking though that a few GB of fast solid-state hard drive configured as a gjournal for a RAID10 (ie gst= ripe +gmirror) might achieve the same effect for rather less outlay... It would probably not be too shabby with RAID5 even, but of course you'ld lose the benefit of offloading parity calculations onto the RAID controll= er's CPU. Still, modern multi-core CPUs are probably fast enough nowadays to make that viable for many purposes. =20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD7935878E099234D25665A93 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkoB40kACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxlQwCfZUK2JDHgQBeZ+hAkCZImW2pO SkEAoIyWUGFD7u0sDmqjueBr6w6TokAG =zm6f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD7935878E099234D25665A93-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 19:35:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E7C1065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@bsdhost.net) Received: from dos.kaslist.com (dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B478FC19 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@bsdhost.net) Received: from dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9] by dos.kaslist.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1mDZ-000JkV-Iv; Wed, 06 May 2009 11:51:45 -0700 Message-Id: <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net> From: Fred C To: J Sisson In-Reply-To: <4297a9020905060908p664392f8v8f35b77509105ff0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:51:45 -0700 References: <4297a9020905060908p664392f8v8f35b77509105ff0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:35:58 -0000 That project already exist it is called linux... -fred- On May 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, J Sisson wrote: > That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and > flood > it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if they > booted without a GUI. > > And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you > know...for > performance reasons. > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello > wrote: > >> Do you want obtain new market share? >> >> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will >> be a best >> seller >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Giorgio Novello >> >> Vb developer >> >> Italy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > -- > Computers are like air conditioners... > They quit working when you open Windows. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 19:41:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52579106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=3708b6a46=echen@nyx.com) Received: from CHMAILGW01.tradearca.com (chmailgw01.nyx.com [198.140.49.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5668FC16 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=3708b6a46=echen@nyx.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,303,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="74670601" Received: from nysecorpsmtp01.corp.nyse.com (HELO nysecorpsmtp01.nyse.com) ([159.125.152.166]) by CHMAILGW01-int.tradearca.com with ESMTP; 06 May 2009 14:41:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBCD@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Sensitivity: To: "Gary Gatten" X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Eddie Chen Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:41:37 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NYSECORPSMTP01/NYSE(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 05/06/2009 03:41:38 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:41:40 -0000 Hi Gary and Lowell, I just download and complied the ncftp and run some ftp, it looks nice. Going to check it out more later on... I like the diagnostics exit return value on the ncftpput/get. Anyway, I have aready modify the tnftp(lukemftp) and started testing some of the batch jobs. Thanks Visit our website at http://www.nyse.com **************************************************** Note: The information contained in this message and any attachment to it is privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message, and please delete it from your system. Thank you. NYSE Euronext, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 19:53:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B186B106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40AA8FC1F for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 19:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46JoqTo021258; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:51:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 98AB88A51E; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:50:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98498A581; Wed, 6 May 2009 14:48:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 May 2009 14:48:53 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:48:15 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: basic Thread-Index: AcnOggufp6i6o7x4TxGtq1IGpX95QAAAW48Q References: <4297a9020905060908p664392f8v8f35b77509105ff0@mail.gmail.com> <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Fred C" , "J Sisson" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2009 19:48:53.0930 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9FE8A0:01C9CE83] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:53:04 -0000 LMAO! Touch=E9! Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Fred C Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:52 PM To: J Sisson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic That project already exist it is called linux... -fred- On May 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, J Sisson wrote: > That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and=20= =20 > flood > it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if they > booted without a GUI. > > And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you=20=20 > know...for > performance reasons. > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello=20=20 > wrote: > >> Do you want obtain new market share? >> >> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will=20=20 >> be a best >> seller >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Giorgio Novello >> >> Vb developer >> >> Italy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > --=20 > Computers are like air conditioners... > They quit working when you open Windows. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg=20 > " > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 20:00:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBBF106567C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Midspan@phihongusa.com) Received: from pn1.xo.com (pn1.xo.com [207.88.224.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0F68FC15 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Midspan@phihongusa.com) Received: from ocean.xo.com (ocean.xo.com [207.155.250.23]) by pn1.xo.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) External) with ESMTP id 4E4182CB5 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (ConcentricHost relay 1.2); with ESMTP id E6D9172B3; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IBM-PAIGE-PC (c-24-14-10-100.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.10.100]) by ocean.xo.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) Relay) with ESMTP id E6D9172B3 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:59:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Midspan Manager" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Phihong USA Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:59:50 -0500 Message-Id: <20090506195957.E6D9172B3@ocean.xo.com> Content-Type: text/plain ; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Myths about Power Over Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:00:03 -0000 Myths about Power Over Ethernet May 5, 2008 Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) technology integrates power and data across = standard Cat5/5e/6 network cabling and provides more flexibility in to= day=E2=80=99s workplace. PoE enables power to be supplied to network d= evices, such as IP phones, network cameras, and wireless access points= through a single, most often existing, network cable. When combined w= ith an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) a PoE network delivers conti= nuous operation and minimizes business downtime by eliminating most po= wer interruptions. With the ability to install endpoints in any locati= on PoE technology provides a scalable and flexible networking infrastr= ucture geared for growth and efficiency. =20 PoE Switches can provide all the power I need or will need. Today most switches are merely PoE-enabled. This means the majority r= ely on power management to share available power across the switch por= ts. The switches are designed with a smaller power supply that is typi= cally capable of powering the switch itself and providing the required= 15.4 watts of power over a limited number of ports.=20 For example: A 24-port PoE Switch with power management typically has= a 195-watt power supply. After the 40 watts needed to power the switc= h, you have approximately 155 watts remaining. If 12 of the 24 ports a= re used to connect end devices using 11.5 watts each, you would only h= ave 17 watts remaining to provide power on the last 12 ports. The mat= h doesn=E2=80=99t match the ports: 195W =E2=80=93 40W (switch) =E2=80=93= 138 (12 devices @ 11.5W/ea) =3D 17W left for power on 12 ports=20 Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effectiv= e solution. =20 =20 A midspan and a PoE switch are the same. A PoE Midspan is not a switch. A Midspan is an additional PoE power s= ource that can be used to offer full power to all endpoint devices. P= oE Midspans (Power Hub or Power Injector) pass data from a switch and = =E2=80=98inject=E2=80=99 safe power acting as a patch panel of sorts. = Midspans are commonly used with either a non-PoE switch, an existing = PoE switch, or a new PoE switch in a network. In addition to offering = full power across all available ports, midspans costs substantially le= ss per port and overall than a new PoE enabled switch. Myth Busted: Midspans do not switch =E2=80=93 they make use of existin= g best-in-class switches. They inject safe power across all ports and= cost less than PoE switches. .=20 =20 Only a switch that has PoE built in should be used to power devices l= ike IP Phones, Access Points, and IP Security Cameras.=20 Switches were designed to, well, switch. PoE Switches are designed wi= th power management and have to distribute different power as required= to ports but there is often not enough power for all devices plus the= power required to complete the primary task - switching. Networks th= at have multiple devices like IP phones, IP cameras, wireless access p= oints quickly go beyond the limited capacity of managed power PoE swit= ches. As more PoE devices continue to grow in capabilities and market= share this managed power limitation will become more and more evident= =2E Midspans, in contrast to switches, were designed to provide full = power on every port and deliver safe and reliable power based on the i= ndustry standards (IEEE802.3af/at).=20 Myth Busted: Rather than relying on power management in a switch use a= midspan that can deliver full power (15.4W) to every port for all PoE= -enabled devices now and in the future. =20 =20 Ethernet devices not PoE-enabled (non 802.3af/at compliant) cannot be= powered using PoE technology.=20 Many devices do not directly accept Power-over-Ethernet but can still = use PoE technology. If the device uses less than 12.5 watts (802.3af) = or less than 50 watts (802.3at+) and connects to an IP Ethernet networ= k you can use a PoE splitter. PoE splitters enable you to accept PoE = power from any IEEE 802.3af/at compliant switch or midspan then separa= tes the data and power on to two seprate cables. The data is connecte= d to the end device through a standard RJ45 plug while the power is co= nnected using a standard 5.5 x 2.1 x 12mm Adapter Plug. Splitters can= also convert the input voltage to the required voltage for a non-PoE = device. Splitters are traditionally used with older network products w= hich only accept power through their (DC) jack and data through their = RJ-45 jack. Myth Busted: PoE splitters can be used in conjunction with PoE midspan= s and switches to provide both the data connectivity and power require= d by most endpoint devices.=20 =20 I need/will need additional PoE switch ports to power my IP cameras a= nd high-power pan, tilt, and zoom (PTZ) cameras.=20 Today, many devices have evolved into more advanced solutions with hig= her power requirements. The traditional approach was to endure a =E2=80= =9Cforklift upgrade=E2=80=9D. This meant buying new PoE switches at co= nsiderable cost and physically swapping out the existing switches to m= eet higher power requirements or add more powered ports. There is an e= asy and more cost-effective way =E2=80=93 separate the data and power = in the wiring closet (IBF). It is more efficient and costs less to sep= arate your data and power allowing you to keep your best-in-class busi= ness switch for your IP needs and supplement it where required with be= st-in-class midspan technology to power the endpoints.=20 Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effectiv= e solution.=20 =20 All midspans are created equal . . . they are all the same.=20 Always select a best-in-class midspan. If you wanted to enhance your s= witched network wouldn=E2=80=99t use a best-in-class network switch? = Of course you would. A midspan designed and manufactured by a leading = power supply company that understands power, power requirements, and o= ne that delivers enterprise-level solutions.=20 Select a midspan manufacturer that has multiple members on the IEEE (P= oE) committee helping to define safe, new PoE standards. This ensures = that every midspan is designed to meet current and future IEEE specifi= cations for Power-over-Ethernet.=20 Select a midspan manufacturer that designs, manufactures, and tests it= s own product rather than outsourcing these tasks across the globe to = cut costs. Select a midspan that has a high-speed, common interface to access the= management console. A USB port is not as cheap as a serial port (RS-2= 32) but is faster, more user-friendly, and more common on high quality= midspans.=20 Myth Busted: Although there are many midspan manufacturers out there, = few have the power supply experience, quality controls, and manufactur= ing capability to produce best-in-class midspans. All midspans are NO= T created equal. =20 =20 =20 =C2=A92009 midspans.com. Midspans.com is a division of Phihong USA Inc. All Rights Reserved=20 You are being sent this email because you have expressed interest in = PoE products in the past. If you do not wish to receive emails from us= in the future and be removed from our list please click on the link b= elow.=20 To unsubscribe, please click here. www.phihong.com - 47800 Fremont Blvd., Fremont, CA. 94538 - Phone 510-= 445-0100=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 20:15:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0E91065677 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@bsdhost.net) Received: from dos.kaslist.com (dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43D68FC22 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@bsdhost.net) Received: from dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9] by dos.kaslist.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1nWg-000KtB-GV; Wed, 06 May 2009 13:15:34 -0700 Message-Id: <24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net> From: Fred C To: Gary Gatten In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:15:34 -0700 References: <4297a9020905060908p664392f8v8f35b77509105ff0@mail.gmail.com> <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: J Sisson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:15:35 -0000 On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > LMAO! Touch=E9! Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :) I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is =20 installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in =20= the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows. -fred- > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > ] On Behalf Of Fred C > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:52 PM > To: J Sisson > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: basic > > > That project already exist it is called linux... > > -fred- > > On May 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, J Sisson wrote: > >> That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and >> flood >> it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if =20 >> they >> booted without a GUI. >> >> And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you >> know...for >> performance reasons. >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello >> wrote: >> >>> Do you want obtain new market share? >>> >>> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will >>> be a best >>> seller >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Giorgio Novello >>> >>> Vb developer >>> >>> Italy >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> >> --=20 >> Computers are like air conditioners... >> They quit working when you open Windows. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 > " > > > > > > >
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If you have > received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by > return email and delete this email from your system." > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 > " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 20:51:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A378E1065688; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3EA8FC0A; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so197724yxb.13 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 13:51:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/ea0+KbwWXYpS4GIsn6jOi79PDFqzj9iSMc256qlEMs=; b=mW5fJGiGyJ0OM7Q1bKrL7Fs0gndF4+Kk8DU8kgEdAomKE/q5GFiEiFLA5DL+thQ3tM CoLu1DmOzf4DJDqCcMJSp6INNdc7wxjBomRhzhX46cpFYikhq0xTEccxT/e6UX+I8c9Y eya+UijLW7UjIZqaxz3h2o0/kXQNMOiSqSNX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kXzadZ+i1ms53PZrF5hzp4vyQGgTbO2Nfj7+Ohr15zXMxeC0FXYxn5ZsV/a9KYR1MZ aNMPD02AxVNRDt+vb9R+3ubyQvVn2l5d1eiDe5fuf7WFgFFhcL2sy5YInQO8KAKWv0y5 JjWs69ClEPU8Rv8SchvWuPeK1g+p/BiZJBM4U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.201.17 with SMTP id y17mr3034097ybf.83.1241641836815; Wed, 06 May 2009 13:30:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A01E343.4020608@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD4@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <4A01E343.4020608@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:30:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: Freddie Cash To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:51:10 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Gary Gatten wrote: >> OT now, but in high i/o envs with high concurrency needs, RAID5 is >> still the way to go, esp if 90% of i/o is reads. Of course it depends >> on file size / type as well... Anyway, let's sum it up with "a >> storage subsystem is only as fast as its slowest link" > > It's not just the balance of reads over writes. =C2=A0It's the size and > sequential location of the IO requests. =C2=A0RAID5 is good for sequentia= l reads -- eg. > streaming a video -- where the system can read whole blocks from all the > drives involved, calculate parity over the whole lot and then push all th= at > blob of data up to the CPU. > > RAID5 is pretty pessimal if your usage pattern is small reads or writes > randomly scattered over your storage area -- eg. typical RDBMS behaviour > -- which works a great deal better on RAID10. > > I'd also contend that the essential difference between a really good fast > hardware raid controller and something disappointingly mundane is a decen= t > amount of non-volatile cache memory. =C2=A0For most H/W raid that equates= to > using a battery backup unit. =C2=A0I've been thinking though that a few G= B of > fast solid-state hard drive configured as a gjournal for a RAID10 (ie > gstripe +gmirror) might achieve the same effect for rather less outlay...= =C2=A0It > would probably not be too shabby with RAID5 even, but of course you'ld > lose the benefit of offloading parity calculations onto the RAID > controller's CPU. Still, modern multi-core CPUs are probably fast enough = nowadays to > make that viable for many purposes. Depending on the number of drives you are using, ZFS would also be worth looking at. The raidz implementation works quite nicely, and (in theory) doesn't suffer from the major issues that RAID5/6 does. It also does implicit striping across all vdevs, so you can make some very fancy RAID layouts (each vdev can be mirrored, raidz1, raidz2, or just a bunch of disks). I don't know if the version of ZFS in FreeBSD 7.x supports hybrid pools, but the version in FreeBSD 8.0 should, which lets you add SSDs to the pool to be used automatically as "cache" in-between RAM and harddrives. --=20 Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 20:52:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0C3106566C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC87A8FC28 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so270697qwe.7 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 13:52:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hwij4UMvbFmc+XyuQkhKiFo+nhePCbE5XAtOZ0VkbLU=; b=nsOoWApekv09uQWYEXv9m1L7TfTD2MoR7qVjLEMGn423N8dhmhVfVX59OMErp4uN5S wDOigSuuv/6VTK/fQ4qW8OP/opfmxBQUezzYj/4XOlVI3VR7qn94qQxRKefzr6h+KlUQ lmVS1b+WPRbrgdDOHDDEL0gO8OJmzUcLlH3U0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=V2auikFXh9gEzRYmkmqyyi64xjQIO5Koh8VkzfEv6do2mo1yZQFWROBfbiYWFKRd1s 2xBtefCqqFAgFs0yDpVyR9YWRJvRKG/mhWbzbPSKfMeg2hEQQZELupkpNkmOWyQuxTTp mc6LkX1uyUho9+ifskU+r22Jmyp6FHnhtahx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.179.2 with SMTP id b2mr563015wff.280.1241643132783; Wed, 06 May 2009 13:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:52:12 -0600 Message-ID: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:52:14 -0000 Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster... Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a system while in multi-user mode? Thanks! -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:00:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C211065675 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0B98FC38 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1EF50CBD for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 23:00:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DE150C83 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 23:00:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A01FA94.4050502@webrz.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:01:08 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Re: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:00:43 -0000 Dear all, Thanks for your advise and suggestions; I have bought the Intel Pro/1000GT. regards, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:01:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631E510656C8 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=ebRZtOuz=BC=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026D58FC27 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=ebRZtOuz=BC=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n46L115m087521 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 23:01:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; h=from:subject:message-id:date:x-asarian_host-trace:x-asarian_host-virus-checked:organization:to:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; c=nofws; s=anon; d=asarian-host.net; b=D7PN1Wj3ezFSeiCKQEOVpcFTLnicWbzNzr68c/ataiPL6mjpvjYp1Hndy2V1P12TadK/uV9q7EIalpA76nipb63rKObjqOpOOWY7WYORUEEWlzRpbC7lvTc6T5Lqg3Y8mZHvTOvqjjOTWyQuYLIznwOR5dotO2TploxBrphbbYQ= From: Mark Message-Id: <200905062101.n46KYajh086945@asarian-host.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:01:01 GMT X-ASARIAN_HOST-Trace: OR9UKdMfz17hltqcHX9zMoDPuKF8ngfycMV0LdY/NxY= X-ASARIAN_HOST-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint X-ASARIAN_HOST-Virus-Checked: Scanned by ClamAV on asarian-host.net Organization: Asarian-host To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: php4 + php5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:01:03 -0000 Using a single Apache 1.3.x install, is there a way to install both mod_php4 + mod_php5 together? I can't just upgrade to php5: not every webboard and such accepts php5 yet. On some dirs (or per vhost) I like the Apache server to use php5, though. Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:12:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED031065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327CA8FC17 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oHPz1b0010vp7WLA9Lzk8g; Wed, 06 May 2009 20:59:44 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oLzi1b00D1f6R9u8RLziJc; Wed, 06 May 2009 20:59:44 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 06 May 2009 13:59:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:59:41 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090506205940.GC54310@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.x X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:12:53 -0000 On Wed 06 May 2009 at 13:15:34 PDT Fred C wrote: > > On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > >> LMAO! Touch=E9! Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :) > > > I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is =20 > installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in > the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows. I suspect the OP was trolling. The giveaway is his suggestion that following his advice would make FreeBSD a "best seller". This reflects a complete lack of awareness of what FreeBSD is all about. Setting aside the fact that FreeBSD is not a commercial product and thus has nothing to sell, he also presumes that our primary goal is to increase the size of our userbase and that we are willing to make whatever accommodations are necessary to achieve that goal. But unless I'm mistaken, that isn't FreeBSD's goal. FreeBSD's goal is to provide a freely-available implementation of BSD Unix for the most common hardware. New users who are looking for a BSD Unix are welcome, but they are expected to adapt to FreeBSD's way of doing things and not vice versa. The current userbase is large enough to suggest that many people have no problem with those terms. As for the suggestion that what FreeBSD needs is VB, there have already been various ports of Basic over the years. None of them seem to have had much success. BSD users seem to be content with traditional shell scripting, perl, or newer scripting languages like python -- all of which better reflect the Unix philosophy than VB does. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:24:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA941065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F568FC0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4471800.home.otenet.gr [94.71.123.232]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n46LOUIN009174; Thu, 7 May 2009 00:24:30 +0300 Message-ID: <4A02000E.4090206@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 00:24:30 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:24:33 -0000 Modulok wrote: > Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster... > > Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a > system while in multi-user mode? > > Thanks! > -Modulok- > Yes. But you should schedule a reboot shortly afterwards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:41:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CE2106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD3E8FC18 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 3B28816B4D1; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:41:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.89]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F3E016B4B7 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:41:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:38:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:38:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090506163222.C6023@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Subject: What make is in 7.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:41:18 -0000 When I do man make I get a man page and it includes references to the pmake tutorial which seems to be basis of an HTMLize pmake tutorial in one of the books. But clearly the installed make is not the pmake described in the tutorial. The tutorial frequently suggest using Pmake -h for more details about particular points. But in 7.1 make -h results in an illegal option message. There is no pmake or Pmake. There is a pmake port but it won't build in 7.1. So it seems I have a lot of documentation for pmake, which clearly I don't have and can't get. Where is the documentation for the make I do have? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:47:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD37D1065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A5B8FC12 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so597387gxk.19 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 14:47:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0y/3FL9A46JWMCcuKmVnyVRtiAYkxI8SaUV6STZ2O04=; b=ZLiUJbgJSS6I7tzhIMtkmeZmMgDHzVcGInnXRWvChdmetSZTwhFeiHcwKpIhr3imuW U9e4pDR3PCKaOo0TvtUfRywRpGHpCciV6MFIy1e03LmlSujBUZ/iqYRDTJ6zcG09QwaC HTJa+5WnRAAKs2aTNKsZS0g+Mt3ojXoV8ZVS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=IfQAIa33ihf+ePbOHF1+3E2yMocqDiqhpBaaaFd6VzAHfubNDfkOuPP0dKwT4CiD9W slrTmk/SSPQoyrM7achhdsGSBvU3r4azWFppGWHNh3C1+J2Dk0Hx/Kb4SIhKAz3RXhdI t+KtpvgqqR8oZJuqMkVcMnAtMTcCP6A/wAwKQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.27.9 with SMTP id e9mr3138699ybj.76.1241645992740; Wed, 06 May 2009 14:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:39:52 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0905061439t67de1b24p4343f376c8687e03@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:47:41 -0000 i have many IPs assigned to my interface is there a way to force traffic to leave from specific IP vs another (default) first one? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:53:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B801C106564A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5288A8FC0C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46LqpoR002160; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:53:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CBB1B5894; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:52:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DDEB58AA; Wed, 6 May 2009 16:51:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 May 2009 16:51:32 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:50:40 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBE7@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0905061439t67de1b24p4343f376c8687e03@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip Thread-Index: AcnOlGhQVLVist7WQl+HPwIH7X5N4wAAA9Ew References: <6ae50c2d0905061439t67de1b24p4343f376c8687e03@mail.gmail.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "alexus" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2009 21:51:32.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1DAF840:01C9CE94] Cc: Subject: RE: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:53:38 -0000 Change your local routing table. Also maybe NAT, IP Tables, PF, etc. Policy Based Routing is the general term, but unless you want to do tricky stuff, basic routing manipulation should work. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of alexus Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:40 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip i have many IPs assigned to my interface is there a way to force traffic to leave from specific IP vs another (default) first one? --=20 http://alexus.org/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:57:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1837010656BB for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DA08FC1C for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from vdsl-151-118-132-54.dnvr.qwest.net ([151.118.132.54] helo=mail.mikestammer.com) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1M1oOX-000BKd-Sv; Wed, 06 May 2009 21:11:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.240] (unknown [192.168.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric@mikestammer.com) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12137B8AA; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:11:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 151.118.132.54 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19QNOdOUZ2eVkngeS75ZDhTRqgWYJy59eY= Message-ID: <4A01FCF1.4050600@mikestammer.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:11:13 -0600 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:57:08 -0000 Modulok wrote: > Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster... > > Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a > system while in multi-user mode? > > Thanks! > -Modulok- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thats the way i do it and havent had an issue yet. I always do installworld from single user mode tho. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 22:04:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7767106566B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DE48FC14 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so608952gxk.19 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 15:04:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Idl/mJlFTlhH2Z1bt1EOL9mvn0IWb5t0vV3/VO0W1g=; b=PzQnPL1YRjkKVy/lBRp0MeEsl1+kxr4PkJoiaADWkv7CsM2zjUyzYf+ah/R052f1cq fXBRHE/Lr1HK7RFw0uLKS195dSzuP1LRUotXTod6qA+MNVQnGlfEpTBdTm5W7x2QOCQp 1XfUfGQVtFMI3koGyHFJ3t2iJTrtk6RQVQHuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hddo4WqJOZcD1/qQda/0voux/L2XHZ4aYeuYNNmv7ko4maxNsY26RZ5agWwsaWdtt7 KbUwQfv8dneTpfK/NZctLjgvZPgmXTkEkRjA2+ORCGdwQ5pgZydJOlxs6h90qhb4LIpI 75RQhNxBEX96IB/XOuiRl7aSmsY8eAyDZ7Fyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.125.5 with SMTP id c5mr1479152ybn.171.1241647420998; Wed, 06 May 2009 15:03:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBE7@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> References: <6ae50c2d0905061439t67de1b24p4343f376c8687e03@mail.gmail.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBE7@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:03:40 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0905061503tbbf4546r68f9e525566ae9e5@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: Gary Gatten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 22:04:25 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > Change your local routing table. =C2=A0Also maybe NAT, IP Tables, PF, etc= . > Policy Based Routing is the general term, but unless you want to do > tricky stuff, basic routing manipulation should work. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of alexus > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:40 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip > > i have many IPs assigned to my interface > > is there a way to force traffic to leave from specific IP vs another > (default) first one? > > -- > http://alexus.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > >
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> "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient > =C2=A0and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. > =C2=A0If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > =C2=A0any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email > =C2=A0and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. =C2=A0If you h= ave > =C2=A0received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender = by > =C2=A0return email and delete this email from your system." > > > nothin tricky, i basically have 2 jails running on some ips but i want traffic to leave from other ips that those jails assigned too --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 22:24:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF9E106566B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F238FC17 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n46MNLFl096403 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:23:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n46MNL2Z096402 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 May 2009 18:23:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:23:21 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090506222321.GA96351@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net> <20090506205940.GC54310@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090506205940.GC54310@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 22:24:12 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:59:41PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 06 May 2009 at 13:15:34 PDT Fred C wrote: > > > >On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > > > >>LMAO! Touché! Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :) > > > > > >I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is > >installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in > >the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows. > > I suspect the OP was trolling. The giveaway is his suggestion that > following his advice would make FreeBSD a "best seller". This reflects > a complete lack of awareness of what FreeBSD is all about. > > Setting aside the fact that FreeBSD is not a commercial product and thus > has nothing to sell, he also presumes that our primary goal is to > increase the size of our userbase and that we are willing to make > whatever accommodations are necessary to achieve that goal. > > But unless I'm mistaken, that isn't FreeBSD's goal. > > FreeBSD's goal is to provide a freely-available implementation of BSD > Unix for the most common hardware. New users who are looking for a BSD > Unix are welcome, but they are expected to adapt to FreeBSD's way of > doing things and not vice versa. The current userbase is large enough > to suggest that many people have no problem with those terms. > > As for the suggestion that what FreeBSD needs is VB, there have already > been various ports of Basic over the years. None of them seem to have > had much success. BSD users seem to be content with traditional shell > scripting, perl, or newer scripting languages like python -- all of > which better reflect the Unix philosophy than VB does. The only thing I miss about basic was the ease of playing the speaker on a pc. I wrote a number of odd-scaled and timed loops in Basic many years ago - circa 1980, pre Visual Basic actually, as tests of the effects of tone intervals and tone spacing and wouldn't mind resurecting them and doing some more experimenting. I know there are all kinds of more sophisticated things available, but the simplicity of it then just suited what I was trying to do. It would be easy enough to rewrite the loops in something like Perl, but is it as easy to make the tones and control the time intervals? I don't remember seeing that other places. Otherwise, the only other reason for Basic nowdays, as far as I can see, is for nostalgia -- anyone remember PP coding on CDC 6000 and 170 series mainframes? Now that's nostalgia. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 22:50:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4F21065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E022A8FC22 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n46Moerq028242; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:50:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F62FB58AF; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:50:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75A1B58AB; Wed, 6 May 2009 17:50:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 May 2009 17:50:39 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:50:07 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBEB@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <20090506222321.GA96351@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: basic Thread-Index: AcnOmYqz/XOdeZDUTeyZK6wGQ/5/2gAAzCmQ References: <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net><70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com><24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net><20090506205940.GC54310@comcast.net> <20090506222321.GA96351@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Jerry McAllister" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2009 22:50:39.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[13D540E0:01C9CE9D] Cc: Subject: RE: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 22:50:56 -0000 You're sick! If it's not some killer RAD tool with OO everything and a pre= tty GUI to type in, who would write code in such a thing? Yes - I'm being sarcastic! Can we kill this thread now? Pretty soon it will be like the PC-BSD thread= and the "I must have a pretty GUI installer" thread! -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jerry McAllister Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 5:23 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:59:41PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 06 May 2009 at 13:15:34 PDT Fred C wrote: > > > >On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > > > >>LMAO! Touch=E9! Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :) > > > > > >I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is=20=20 > >installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in > >the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows. >=20 > I suspect the OP was trolling. The giveaway is his suggestion that > following his advice would make FreeBSD a "best seller". This reflects > a complete lack of awareness of what FreeBSD is all about. >=20 > Setting aside the fact that FreeBSD is not a commercial product and thus > has nothing to sell, he also presumes that our primary goal is to > increase the size of our userbase and that we are willing to make > whatever accommodations are necessary to achieve that goal. >=20 > But unless I'm mistaken, that isn't FreeBSD's goal. >=20 > FreeBSD's goal is to provide a freely-available implementation of BSD > Unix for the most common hardware. New users who are looking for a BSD > Unix are welcome, but they are expected to adapt to FreeBSD's way of > doing things and not vice versa. The current userbase is large enough > to suggest that many people have no problem with those terms. >=20 > As for the suggestion that what FreeBSD needs is VB, there have already > been various ports of Basic over the years. None of them seem to have > had much success. BSD users seem to be content with traditional shell > scripting, perl, or newer scripting languages like python -- all of > which better reflect the Unix philosophy than VB does.=20=20 The only thing I miss about basic was the ease of playing the speaker on a pc. I wrote a number of odd-scaled and timed loops in Basic many=20 years ago - circa 1980, pre Visual Basic actually, as tests of the effects= =20 of tone intervals and tone spacing and wouldn't mind resurecting them and= =20 doing some more experimenting.=20=20=20 I know there are all kinds of more sophisticated things available, but the= =20 simplicity of it then just suited what I was trying to do. It would be=20 easy enough to rewrite the loops in something like Perl, but is it as easy= =20 to make the tones and control the time intervals? I don't remember seeing= =20 that other places.=20=20 Otherwise, the only other reason for Basic nowdays, as far as I can see,=20 is for nostalgia -- anyone remember PP coding on CDC 6000 and 170 series=20 mainframes? Now that's nostalgia. ////jerry >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 01:08:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AD8106566C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 01:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f165.google.com (mail-bw0-f165.google.com [209.85.218.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1616F8FC32 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 01:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so482609bwz.43 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 18:08:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IJ9HmRAIaITJDeHRfZZw7lhuVj/H5rraJjxCYvYSnDM=; b=IOH5DKf5upRUy003FUre/ZI1BcsmkBabBqUreDFOYkkpeE+QeCvIUewdWmK6gFK2NC yaLjMVMuO2YjOJRy6r2PH6xthO+LC/sGPfkhgH65U6WNOj87BP85C+hBuDk8VSIhZ0CO /xkIow0cbOsoNWL6qRvA3BA8G1azAZmzV+Huk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=V1K3LnF0BGQvB29aWdovv/IQgmWz0quuVs+3r9oRtSs4n7MAk/AaamWULtlWtfWkVg iSmD4DQsEtIrEepYq5+x61ymR1v9QoxNEgXeJimMYkb0GdwKpvLGOYhE2n/ScEfscNGQ SNIWJpoRsgdCDaNf42zaujnvttMxjPV2oqjRk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.13 with SMTP id e13mr112399hba.38.1241656987319; Wed, 06 May 2009 17:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 02:43:07 +0200 Message-ID: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 01:08:11 -0000 Hi I'm looking for a generel guide / howto for maintaining a FreeBSD system - not all the ports, just the base system. One that describe how often you should update your port-tree, which basic ports like audit you should have. Its a server I have that runs different services, so I'm also looking for cronjobs that I could make the system mail to me incase of something. In very few words maintain automatic . Hope you have some guides out there --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=F8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 01:16:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBE9106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 01:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C648FC25 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 01:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n471GKaH018726; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:16:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E1CAB58D9; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:16:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A48B58E2; 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Thu, 7 May 2009 02:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wsparrish@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171E48FC24 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 02:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wsparrish@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU148-W11 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 May 2009 19:35:30 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [75.182.96.114] From: Scott Parrish To: Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:35:30 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2009 02:35:30.0886 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D57F660:01C9CEBC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: unable to boot with Nvidia AGP graphics card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 02:47:37 -0000 Hi all=2C Recently my PCI graphics card failed on my Dell Dimension 4100. I replaced= it with a known good card I had lying around: an Nvidia GeForce 3 TI200 w= ith an AGP interface. My FreeBSD installation will not boot with this grap= hics card. The boot loader hangs at the twirling baton as follows: /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=3D0x43698 data=3D0x23c0+0x10f0 syms=3D[0x4+0x7ba0+0x4+0xa828] \ I'm running 7.1-RELEASE generic kernel. Anyone ever see anything like this before? Any ideas on how I can debug? = Is there anything I can do with the loader prompt to see what is happening = when this occurs? The keyboard still seems responsive when this happens (the caps-lock=2C num= -lock=2C etc. still work). It is almost as if the boot loader is unsure ho= w to send output to the AGP bus. I have tweaked every possible setting in = the very limited BIOS but nothing helps. BTW=2C I know that my hardware is good because this is a dual boot system a= nd I am able to boot into Windows just fine. I am also able to run Linux f= rom a live cd. However=2C I also tried a FreeBSD install disk and it hangs= at the same place. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! -William _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE goes with you.=20 http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutor= ial_Mobile1_052009= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 03:10:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81839106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1393E8FC0C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n472YqlW041524 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:34:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:34:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: FreeBSD Questions List Message-ID: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Java without CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 03:10:27 -0000 Hello list, I know that, since my printer speaks Postscript, I don't need CUPS. But some of the ports I'm installing want to install CUPS as a dependency. The first one I happened across was java/jdk16, but I'd be surprised if there weren't more. Could it be as simple as # make -DWITHOUT_CUPS install ? I see no such possibility in either the config options or the Makefile for jdk16, and google was no help. It's not like the disk space costs anything nowadays, but I chafe at installing unneccesary bloat on my system. If it can't be done I'll deal, but I'd like to stay CUPS-free if possible. Thanks very much for any insight. $ uname -mv FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 08:49:13 UTC 2009 root@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 02:05:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AD4106566C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 02:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B200D8FC19 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 02:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 93550 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2009 01:38:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1241660318; bh=F366yw2xsX7PS4maDBOvBsRoihEie5FolNG+Af4DFac=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sg8AQnx8gx+hp20d7WcB4goZyit36GyQKq2g62TVXPI2LfmuJ6pqiPotlOk7jvskA0V6m1XYZzchrMltyA9ZkH0+qMYkyhhmlF30pg3vMBOpOKQvuJkGDIuQU+x8uCfletgjzF6zuT+Zy+jw9+zFsaxn7EgABsM2Xpatc1Vm2f4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oq3xTwP6IyRH2sV1HGkNaY4x/18K3WzoiqhEIpGejCRhpwj+KfMuXIUQ+jz1a/fAG8zKHs14A0MLL6Xwrf7pS5yPPVP2XOSvF16fwUJuJqGyYwoywdTPbL0LggOnYSJ6sPObRulJU/vsntrlqtjrARl+MyH204bQJbDBfbLUicc=; Message-ID: <83156.91671.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WdccmvcVM1n45NiLIzsdb0xVIUAIS8abbZ7isDs_ltfMY1MD2GqGBuARjOJTsH6f1G6WYn5GbOXhhtLQTBpS18NgFnOYe0GZPaYPy9LEVXCrVJNc9UEuhfjVIZavVe0z_umjwvdoA8herSz.mNSAguO1On8RO4yxYEjcLec5TN.L5A24Gg1ePu13Aj2daJnRTMQslo9yYtmEMJ6LqRI_ykEmRAF0BZnJz5yTCSiufoGIhkX7kJzCPcjvIOR2w.8hMJ4vKSWgLjMPcAOGeEhxb4LTOAsFb8Mb_VDWj9DVdr1suLWfatExxpmj28y54VZueGak1oTuAHTugO.f5hQ4chxtZHoLbnY- Received: from [173.48.58.54] by web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 May 2009 18:38:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.35 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:38:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Patterson To: Wojciech Puchar , Gary Gatten In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 07 May 2009 03:29:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Benjamin Krueger , Olivier Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bill Moran Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 02:05:19 -0000 Sorry. This statement is incorrect. If you aren't using ZFS, or even a GEOM volume with mirror/RAID5/softup/etc, you cannot make the statement that hardware RAID is faster. I learned that 3 years ago. It takes about 30 minutes to mirror 1.5TB on ZFS. Try that on hardware RAID. I did the same with 80 GB SATA drives a couple of years ago. Gmirror killed hardware mirror by 50% When your processor on your hardware RAID card is junk and you have a kickass processor and good chunk of memory on your main system and decent controller that isn't getting maxed, the "hardware RAID is always faster" paradigm walked out the door a few years ago. This does not go for EMC, IBM, Hitachi high-end storage arrays where you write to TBs of RAM Cache. P. ________________________________ From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Gatten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Benjamin Krueger ; Olivier Mueller ; freebsd-performance@freebsd.org; Bill Moran Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 2:31:16 PM Subject: RE: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data > It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many > many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires maybe with RAID5, but using RAID5 today (huge disk sizes, little sense to save on disk space) instead of RAID1/10 doesn't make much sense, as RAID5 is slow on writes by design _______________________________________________ freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 03:31:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A564106567A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E858FC19 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5AD3D09A; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:31:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n473VfLh018757; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:31:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:31:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chris Hill Message-Id: <20090507053140.6bf04539.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Java without CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 03:31:50 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2009 22:34:52 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill wrote: > I know that, since my printer speaks Postscript, I don't need CUPS. But > some of the ports I'm installing want to install CUPS as a dependency. > The first one I happened across was java/jdk16, but I'd be surprised if > there weren't more. Just as an information: Gimp (Gutenprint) installs CUPS, allthough I already have apsfilter (HP Laserjet 4000 PCL). When printing, Gimp still tries to "connect to server" (lpstat). > Could it be as simple as > # make -DWITHOUT_CUPS install > ? I see no such possibility in either the config options or the Makefile > for jdk16, and google was no help. I don't think it is possible. The Makefile lists CUPS as a build dependency (UILD_DEPENDS): % grep -n "cups" /usr/ports/java/jdk16Makefile 24: ${LOCALBASE}/include/cups/cups.h:${PORTSDIR}/print/cups-base But I think it's possible to delete CUPS from the system after JDK is compiled successfully: CUPS isn't listed in RUN_DEPENDS so it doesn't seem to be required for running JDK / Java. > It's not like the disk space costs anything nowadays, but I chafe at > installing unneccesary bloat on my system. If it can't be done I'll > deal, but I'd like to stay CUPS-free if possible. Same here, too. :-) Philosophy behind the idea: I don't want to install software that I don't need / don't run. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 03:39:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B051065673 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914908FC13 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (CPE0013d492bb35-CM001a666aca96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.246.66.237]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93306AB6C14 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 23:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A025398.8000303@pldrouin.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:20:56 -0400 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to get the user time of another running process on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 03:39:27 -0000 Hi, I would like to know how I can get the user time of another running process on FreeBSD? Ideally I would like to find a solution that would work as well on other *nix systems. So far the solutions I have found are specific to a given OS (format of proc filesystem, lock_getcpuclockid)... Thank you! Pierre-Luc Drouin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 03:48:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5432B106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FDA8FC15 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so1142907qyk.3 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 20:48:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=glbqTQAxfDmLqBdMQL+PEcnwfnjuypXCNYMxpaRv4MI=; b=RgnJuF9bRRKwVwhdS6UVBrIpZI0QB9R2oeS7RMr/tHUJ3uN85B2tHEejfq99wlCDEC PdPli/e8OB2FDV9Ja/tmLLfJilJ11MgTds2y5Z2/aUQnDWQ1yqa0Ei7BrpF4WZ5pYVMc 7m6RniRKRhlz5BbpadzYN3yy4AA0SsxYsE5WY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=k58DfPjlL+Y69Twej08qukeI1tICurnhh3KfheOSgVckfsaetu/I0e6Y6N+pEcpK8x KsXs5Q0mt4xgxCL5jZizKTs2SRCsTUuUfxXf0PwjAw2K40iyGOv4NJOlHs9BajSPmlHG u0u6YaFfELdR3lzqxvhEQkw6AEMponvQZUx2w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.86.129 with SMTP id s1mr4198434vcl.109.1241668110180; Wed, 06 May 2009 20:48:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com> References: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com> From: Tim Judd Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:48:10 -0600 Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 03:48:31 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Kalle M=F8ller wro= te: > Hi > > I'm looking for a generel guide / howto for maintaining a FreeBSD > system - not all the ports, just the base system. One that describe > how often you should update your port-tree, which basic ports like > audit you should have. Its a server I have that runs different > services, so I'm also looking for cronjobs that I could make the > system mail to me incase of something. > > In very few words maintain automatic . > > Hope you have some guides out there > > -- > > Med Venlig Hilsen > > Kalle R. M=F8ller > It will vary per person. It will vary by said person's workload. But I tend to use a couple of basic principles. 1) NEVER let your system lapse to End of Life. a) it's easier now that freebsd-update exists and is part of base. b) reading the impact section in the security announcements that are mailed to you, and if they affect you, perform the update immediately... no= t "ASAP" 2) Install portaudit and watch the periodic mailings that are sent to you. They list vulnerabilities in ports that really should be addressed. Knowin= g that for each notification portaudit sends to you, it WILL affect some service. Schedule the update ASAP, but I never let it go past a week. The outline above is my own view, I don't expect anyone to share them, I don't mind if they inherit them. So you want to know when to update the ports tree? when a vulnerability exists and an updated/patched version of the port is then in the ports tree. portaudit gets fresh databsae updates, and rescans your ports at eac= h run of the periodic script. Portaudit itself doesn't care about what version the ports tree has, it cares about the version you have installed o= n your box. I dislike automation -- when something is automated and it fails, how disastrous can it be? What is missing, due to a failed automation? Last night my backup script at work didn't backup anything. An unused tape was reported as available, yet the backup didn't run. I had no backups to work off of. This script worked fine for the past 3 months, why fail now? Because of this, even if it IS more work, I tend to do things by hand. Les= s risk, IMHO. Good luck, and ask questions if you need to. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 03:55:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C2B106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04CD8FC21 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id n473tOZD009840 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:55:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D387689E3C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:55:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 91A4B15; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:55:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:55:23 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.164]); Thu, 07 May 2009 05:55:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9334/Thu May 7 01:58:23 2009 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 4A025BAD.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4A025BAD.000/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 4A025BAD.000 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.011 -> S=0.011 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 03:55:27 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD. Last time I asked the > question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic. Indeed it is cryptic, let me gave an example which works: niobe% cat /etc/amd.conf [global] auto_dir = /.amd log_file = /var/log/amd.log log_options = error,fatal,user map_type = file search_path = /etc [/Cd] map_name = amd.cdrom # For nfs mounts [/Net] map_name = amd.net niobe% cat /etc/amd.cdrom cdrom type:=cdfs;opts:=ro,nosuid;dev:=/dev/acd0;fs:=${autodir}/cdrom niobe% cat /etc/amd.net /defaults type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost};rhost:=${key} * opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,nosuid,nodev,soft Now some comments. I use amd without options so it just uses /etc/amd.conf to configure itself. When you try to access /Cd it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.cdrom, and if you try to access /Net it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.net. Finally if you try to access /Net/ada for example, the key is ada, and so is the remote host. It is queried for NFS mounts and everything is mounted. After niobe% cd /Net/ada i have: niobe% df ... ada:/ada 36196652 26972064 7356232 79% /.amd/ada/ada ada:/ada1 287391356 246682696 26109996 90% /.amd/ada/ada1 ada:/ada2 288362876 180649856 93064956 66% /.amd/ada/ada2 ada:/ada3 99188500 80794628 13273960 86% /.amd/ada/ada3 ada:/adm 36204684 1682772 32653156 5% /.amd/ada/adm Note that autodir is /.amd and fs is ${autodir}/${rhost} as you can see. Getting out of /Net/ada those mounts are unmounted. I hope this helps explaining some of the mysteries of amd. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 04:26:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38C3106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722C48FC12 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8F07E837; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:26:45 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:26:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905070626.43652.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Scott Parrish Subject: Re: unable to boot with Nvidia AGP graphics card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 04:26:47 -0000 On Thursday 07 May 2009 04:35:30 Scott Parrish wrote: > Hi all, > Recently my PCI graphics card failed on my Dell Dimension 4100. I replaced > it with a known good card I had lying around: an Nvidia GeForce 3 TI200 > with an AGP interface. My FreeBSD installation will not boot with this > graphics card. The boot loader hangs at the twirling baton as follows: > /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x43698 data=0x23c0+0x10f0 > syms=[0x4+0x7ba0+0x4+0xa828] > \ > > I'm running 7.1-RELEASE generic kernel. > Anyone ever see anything like this before? Any ideas on how I can debug? Most common cause is a faulty hints file, since you can't install from CD either, the GENERIC hints aren't working for this system. You could try 7.2- RELEASE cd and file a PR otherwise. The dmesg from linux would be useful information in this PR. > Is there anything I can do with the loader prompt to see what is happening > when this occurs? The keyboard still seems responsive when this happens > (the caps-lock, num-lock, etc. still work). It is almost as if the boot > loader is unsure how to send output to the AGP bus. You can disable the AGP at loader prompt, similar to how one would do that in the hints file: hint.agp.0.disabled="1" -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 04:28:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213AE1065673 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warren.guy@calorieking.com) Received: from houston.familyhealth.com.au (houston.au.fhnetwork.com [203.22.197.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1048FC16 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warren.guy@calorieking.com) Received: from [192.168.0.135] (wg.internal [192.168.0.135]) by houston.familyhealth.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDD74AC4E for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:10:47 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:10:42 +0800 From: Warren Guy Organization: CalorieKing User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=E7B1C075; url=http://warren.guy.net.au/warrenguy-pub.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFCC9962E955FEC7951AE468A" X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-Watermark: 1242274250.07209@+Mw5IkJkKQnSo/o33BhRqg X-MailScanner-ID: 6BDD74AC4E.E5D24 X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-VirusCheck: Found to be clean X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.44, required 6, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-From: warren.guy@calorieking.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 04:28:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFCC9962E955FEC7951AE468A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I'm just wondering if there is an established best practice for developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed FreeBSD system? If anyone can point me towards documentation or any other resources that might be of use I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Warren --------------enigFCC9962E955FEC7951AE468A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoCX0cACgkQvGwbGeexwHV3oQCgjtrAmgVo1hXtHvda6ddfe4DS 0IIAn3A19tf/9ZTqwCsIslVoNSd0sqgA =d+eq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFCC9962E955FEC7951AE468A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 04:58:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFCC1065672 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9678FC1E for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0245B7E837; Wed, 6 May 2009 20:58:19 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:58:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905070658.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Tim Judd , Kalle =?iso-8859-1?q?M=F8ller?= Subject: Re: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 04:58:21 -0000 On Thursday 07 May 2009 05:48:10 Tim Judd wrote: > 2) Install portaudit and watch the periodic mailings that are sent to you. > They list vulnerabilities in ports that really should be addressed. Not really. You can use the same common sense as with the base system and even more so (for the base system I just install them always, as it doesn't pay off in the long run to skip them). Portaudit for a (web)server has a lot of notifications that "are not critical", like several issues over the last year with php's safe mode that any sane webserver admin doesn't use. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 04:58:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317A3106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61B08FC19 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620D13C872; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:58:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n474wiSL019807; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:58:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:58:44 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Guy Message-Id: <20090507065844.d0e90f56.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com> References: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 04:58:53 -0000 On Thu, 07 May 2009 12:10:42 +0800, Warren Guy wrote: > I'm just wondering if there is an established best practice for > developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed > FreeBSD system? One of the common (at least I think so) methods is using the system's standard tools dump and restore. You create the installation as you need it on a separate machine or in a jailed environment, and you end up with partitions as you want them to have on the machines for deployment. Then you dump these partitions into files. On the (fresh) machines, you boot into a minimal FreeBSD system that allows you to read the dump files, from optical media, tape, or across the network. First you slice, partition and newfs the partitions (can easily be scripted if you know what you want), then you restore the partitions (as on the machine used for preparing them) from the dump files. That's for deploying. For maintaining... it's possible to use a similar method where you only need to dump and restore partitions where you did major changes. For minor ones it should be sufficient to alter files "the usual way" (can be scripted, too). > If anyone can point me towards documentation or any other resources that > might be of use I would greatly appreciate it. There has been a discussion thread some days ago on this list which covers a bit of this topic (deploying). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 05:06:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC946106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1CC8FC08 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40837E837; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:06:10 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:06:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905070706.09296.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Modulok Subject: Re: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 05:06:12 -0000 On Wednesday 06 May 2009 22:52:12 Modulok wrote: > Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster... > > Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a > system while in multi-user mode? It's the best and prefered way. Dropping to single user for installkernel has very little advantages, the running kernel doesn't change, only the on-disk version and if something goes wrong, you have full tools available to track the problem down. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 05:14:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083AC1065677 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A388FC16 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 05:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n474uNd7012544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 23:56:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n474uMqA095130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 23:56:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n474uK9O095117; Wed, 6 May 2009 23:56:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 23:56:19 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Chris Hill Message-ID: <20090507045616.GH3371@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 06 May 2009 23:56:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Java without CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 05:14:19 -0000 In the last episode (May 06), Chris Hill said: > I know that, since my printer speaks Postscript, I don't need CUPS. But > some of the ports I'm installing want to install CUPS as a dependency. > The first one I happened across was java/jdk16, but I'd be surprised if > there weren't more. > > Could it be as simple as > # make -DWITHOUT_CUPS install > ? I see no such possibility in either the config options or the Makefile > for jdk16, and google was no help. > > It's not like the disk space costs anything nowadays, but I chafe at > installing unneccesary bloat on my system. If it can't be done I'll deal, > but I'd like to stay CUPS-free if possible. Take a look at PR 120718. The same files work for the jdk7 tree, too, if you happen to track that. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 06:29:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A36106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AB28FC0A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n476SSF5016881; Thu, 7 May 2009 07:28:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n476SSF5016881 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1241677709; bh=oC9Udcvej3dU5xdVEq7tvmm9nwu1TlbvbO+w/9sORLE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu ,=2007=20May=202009=2007:28:22=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Mark=20|CC:=20freebsd-quest ions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20php4=20+=20php5|References:=20<2 00905062101.n46KYajh086945@asarian-host.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<20090 5062101.n46KYajh086945@asarian-host.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.9 5.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0 D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary= 3D"------------enigC4BBA8F70EBFC31A3284D829"; b=vObieiogHyadLI9PuTl38UsarAgGf2DHoAK6rq4L6UhZ1Fy/ebs9CVtQ/Xx5i2dei qzwrtP9/ajFBpC6wFCDj8eGZV+AHvaHwb7hfNgqyq04pmTd1naSbeEyYH8SXfbBvDO AJnGFKHqVNOEk+7VLhB9yiMtVqW7SuzxujuWEpfw= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 07:28:22 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark References: <200905062101.n46KYajh086945@asarian-host.net> In-Reply-To: <200905062101.n46KYajh086945@asarian-host.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC4BBA8F70EBFC31A3284D829" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php4 + php5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 06:29:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC4BBA8F70EBFC31A3284D829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark wrote: > Using a single Apache 1.3.x install, is there a way to install both >=20 > mod_php4 + mod_php5 together? I can't just upgrade to php5: not every >=20 > webboard and such accepts php5 yet. On some dirs (or per vhost) I like >=20 > the Apache server to use php5, though. No. At least, not within the current ports system. Quite apart from anything else, the php4 and php5 ports conflict -- they fight over installing files to certain locations. I'm also not certain that=20 loading both mod_php4 and mod_php5 into the same instance of Apache is viable. The standard answer to this sort of problem is to use multiple instances of apache. There's support in the rc scripts to do that[*] -- you'll hav= e to work out a mechanism (proxying, running different instances on different IP numbers or ports, etc.) to get the web traffic into the corr= ect apache instance. However, the conflicts between php4 and php5 make this unfeasible, and probably the solution here is to use separately jailed instances of apach= e. Cheers, Matthew [*] Well, there certainly is for apache22 -- I assume that the same appli= es to the other apache versions in the ports. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigC4BBA8F70EBFC31A3284D829 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkoCf4wACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz55QCeIkHzDHwgRfhF7P7Wd9SUbWYg nNQAn1AQDzvaM4gX/7sI6875DUz9woXP =6ueJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC4BBA8F70EBFC31A3284D829-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 06:41:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78ABC106566C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746A58FC1C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C11197E8F; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:24:00 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7524D76255; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:11:40 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n476dE2j071841; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:09:14 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n476d5bB071840; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:09:05 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: Eddie Chen In-Reply-To: (Eddie Chen's message of "Wed, 6 May 2009 11:44:46 -0400") References: X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:09:05 +0530 Message-ID: <86hbzxmn7a.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 06:41:48 -0000 At 2009-05-06T11:44:46-04:00, Eddie Chen wrote: > Reading the ftp commands seems to be better, because it will exit(rc) > if any of "put" or "rename" failed. Perhaps you've already looked at `lftp', http://lftp.yar.ru/ Exit codes of its commands can be used from the shell, e.g., as follows: % set SERVER="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/" % lftp -c "open -e 'cat README.TXT' ${SERVER}" > /dev/null && echo "OK" OK % lftp -c "open -e 'cat NOEXIST' ${SERVER}" || echo "FAILED" FAILED Further, lftp commands themselves can use the exit codes of previous commands: % lftp -c "open -e 'ls foo && ls misc' ${SERVER}" ls: Access failed: 404 Not Found (foo) % lftp -c "open -e 'ls foo || ls misc' ${SERVER}" ls: Access failed: 404 Not Found (foo) drwxr-xr-x -- ~ drwxr-xr-x -- ~/pub drwxr-xr-x -- .. drwxr-xr-x -- . drwxr-xr-x - 2007-11-02 00:00 fbsd-compat -rw-r--r-- 1k 2002-04-03 00:00 supfile HTH, Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 07:03:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FF3106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 07:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3568FC23 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 07:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150D37E837; Wed, 6 May 2009 23:03:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:03:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905070903.36706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Jerry McAllister , giorgio novello , Polytropon Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 07:03:40 -0000 On Wednesday 06 May 2009 21:09:07 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:00:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > 10 GOTO 10 > > > > On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" wrote: > > > Do you want obtain new market share? > > > > > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a > > > best seller > > > > FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals. > > Everyone is a beginner sometime. So, FreeBSD is for beginners. > Otherwise there would be no FreeBSD --- or you. What he means is that FreeBSD does no hand holding or hide stuff "because you don't need access to it anyway". Also, there aren't many that started computing on FreeBSD. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 07:37:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86043106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 07:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (smtp3.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8888FC1B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 07:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 1A1671BC0541_A028FBFB; Thu, 7 May 2009 07:37:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1-wak.yhgfl.net (smtp3-wak-ext.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.42]) by smtp2.yhgfl.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id B28541BC055A_A028FBCF; Thu, 7 May 2009 07:37:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp1-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n477baac010386; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:37:37 +0100 Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AFB55FB006C; Thu, 07 May 2009 08:37:25 +0100 From: "Marc Coyles" To: References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <009401c9ce29$42b9bea0$c82d3be0$@wakefield.sch.uk> <20090506190619.GB95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090506190619.GB95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:37:18 +0100 Message-ID: <007001c9cee6$a689f9f0$f39dedd0$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnOfigOmqFwdtaZRD+trt6MnvB0ZwAaCBlA Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Cc: 'Jerry McAllister' Subject: RE: Dump snapshot issue... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 07:37:49 -0000 > Is /home really a separate file system on your system? > Or is it just a directory in another filesystem? df -h output: Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 3.9G 351M 3.2G 10% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/da0s1g 98G 13G 77G 14% /home /dev/da0s1d 7.7G 136K 7.1G 0% /tmp /dev/da0s1e 9.7G 5.6G 3.3G 63% /usr /dev/da0s1f 9.7G 1.3G 7.6G 15% /var /dev/da1s1d 133G 40G 82G 33% /backup devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc Marci From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 08:16:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68D01065670 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no) Received: from asav3.lyse.net (asav3.lyse.net [81.167.37.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AC68FC15 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asav3.lyse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFB584244 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:16:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lyse.net Received: from terra.hatteland1.org (129.81-166-80.customer.lyse.net [81.166.80.129]) by asav3.lyse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72208414D for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:16:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:16:45 +0200 From: kenneth hatteland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090411) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: abiword X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:16:58 -0000 I am having serious problems getting my freebsd machines with abiword installed to open .doc files. Text becomes totally garbled and unreadable. Have searched the net and the few abiword forums I can find but nowhere does it say what nob is unturned on my freebsd installs. winxp and linux machines opens such documents ok. Anyone using this and know something wise ? OpenOffice would be an alternative, but I only have 4gb left of /usr so it won` t build. blessed be Kenneth, norway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 08:49:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7941106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F3B8FC13 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EE116C02D9; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:49:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n478muNM021961; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:48:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:48:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: kenneth hatteland Message-Id: <20090507104856.ad6dcd3b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no> References: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: abiword X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:49:06 -0000 On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:16:45 +0200, kenneth hatteland wrote: > I am having serious problems getting my freebsd machines with abiword > installed to open .doc files. Text becomes totally garbled and > unreadable. Maybe this is due to a defective .DOC file (quick save disaster, memory dump); possible that Abiword isn't as fault tolerant as OpenOffice. > [...] linux machines opens such documents ok. In Abiword as well? Same version? > OpenOffice would be an alternative, but I only have 4gb left of /usr so > it won` t build. Better install from a package via the pkg_add command. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 10:00:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E7E1065676 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0E38FC0A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n47A0A7E038810 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:00:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n47A0ArJ038807 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:00:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:00:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: isc-dhcp logging and status query X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:00:17 -0000 FreeBSD7-amd64: I set up /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp30-server for static IP addresses (based on the MacAddress) This works, but I wonder where I can see information of the status? 1. The doc says I should see dhcp log messages (default in /var/log/messages) but I see nothing about dhcp in /var/log/messages. (I wonder where they are now, before hacking /etc/syslog.conf) 2. Is there any tool to see what Statically assigned IP address are handed out at a given time? (I also see nothing in /var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases file execpt comments) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 10:34:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F641065672 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243558FC15 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DC87E837; Thu, 7 May 2009 02:34:16 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pieter Donche Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:34:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905071234.15523.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Subject: Re: isc-dhcp logging and status query X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:34:18 -0000 On Thursday 07 May 2009 12:00:10 Pieter Donche wrote: > 2. Is there any tool to see what Statically assigned IP address are handed > out at a given time? > (I also see nothing in /var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases file execpt comments) Add omapi-port 7911; to dhcpd.conf. Then, as follows: $ omshell > connect obj: > new lease obj: lease > set ip-address = 192.168.2.253 obj: lease ip-address = c0:a8:02:fd > open obj: lease ip-address = c0:a8:02:fd state = 00:00:00:02 client-hostname = "impy" See omshell(1) for more info. Install isc-dhcp30-relay to get the omapi(3) and dhcpctl(3) programming interfaces to roll your own tools. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 11:16:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120871065673 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09B18FC20 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M21aZ-0004c1-6r; Thu, 07 May 2009 12:16:34 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1M21aW-0006S3-EL; Thu, 07 May 2009 12:16:29 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n47BGR1F007426; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:16:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n47BGNPl007422; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:16:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:16:22 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Mel Flynn Message-ID: <20090507111622.GA7289@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <20090506093117.GA64688@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <200905061740.41949.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905061740.41949.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make - reassign variable using if-then ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:16:36 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 05:40:41PM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 11:31:17 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I'm trying to build gcc43 on alpha 6.4. > > In /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile I have: > > > > # grep NOT_FOR_ARCHS /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile > > NOT_FOR_ARCHS= alpha ia64 powerpc > > # > > > > In /etc/make.conf I have: > > > > .if ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc43*} > > NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64 > > USE_GCC=4.3+ > > .endif > > > > This used to work fine until some update. Not anymore. > > The second setting is being used, i.e. the port is being built > > with gcc43. But the NOT_FOR_ARCHS is not changed, so I have > > to do it manually each time. > > > > So I tried to experiment with changing variable values withing if-then. > > Your only option is overriding in /usr/portslang/gcc43/Makefile.local. This is > because make.conf is read *before* the Makefile and the Makefile simply > overrides your values. Makefile.local is read *after* the Makefile. > csup will leave it alone, however portsnap will delete the entire directory > before upgrading the port, so your Makefile.local will be shot. ok, thanks, that works, I do use cvsup. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 11:17:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EBF1065687 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lhecking@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from ns1.cypress.com (ns1.cypress.com [157.95.67.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637D78FC20 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lhecking@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from corpmail.cypress.com (corpmail [157.95.1.2]) by ns1.cypress.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n47Aolh1001294 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cork.irdesign.cypress.com (cork.irdesign.cypress.com [157.95.24.1]) by corpmail.cypress.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n47AodL3029182 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 03:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cork.irdesign.cypress.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cork.irdesign.cypress.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0694E342 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:50:37 +0100 (IST) Received: by cork.irdesign.cypress.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 279A04E382; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:50:27 +0100 (IST) From: Lars Hecking To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mutt-References: <200905071234.15523.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-Id: <20090507105027.279A04E382@cork.irdesign.cypress.com> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:50:27 +0100 (IST) Subject: 7.2 = no sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:17:45 -0000 I upgraded my system to 7.2 with cvsup, and sound has stopped working. I'm running gnome, and both esound-0.2.41 A sound library for enlightenment package pulseaudio-0.9.14_5 Sound server for UNIX are installed. Both esd and pulseaudio are running root 1182 0.0 0.1 3372 1140 con- I 10:37PM 0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/esd user 1508 0.0 0.3 78224 5804 ?? Is 11:09PM 0:00.26 /usr/local/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog user 1509 0.0 0.2 10772 4892 ?? I 11:09PM 0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/pulse/gconf-helper which doesn't seem right to me, but turning off esd does not help, and I don't know how to turn off pulseaudio. So I went through http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/sound-setup.html Sound module loaded: yes # kldstat |grep snd 4 1 0xc09d6000 1abf8 snd_hda.ko # cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:3v/1r:1v channels duplex default) pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) dmesg: pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 However, I have no /dev/dsp: # ll /dev/dsp* crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 115 May 6 22:37 /dev/dsp0.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 117 May 6 22:37 /dev/dsp0.1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 118 May 6 23:16 /dev/dsp0.2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 119 May 6 23:21 /dev/dsp0.3 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 120 May 6 23:21 /dev/dsp0.4 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 116 May 6 22:37 /dev/dsp1.0 # fstat |grep dsp root esd 1182 5 /dev 115 crw-rw-rw- dsp0.0 w Where do I go from here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:02:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1761A1065835 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118878FC79 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (pool-72-95-226-5.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 52F0EEBC0A; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:01:57 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Warren Guy Message-Id: <20090507080157.93c8e5ee.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com> References: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:02:48 -0000 Warren Guy wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm just wondering if there is an established best practice for > developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed > FreeBSD system? > > If anyone can point me towards documentation or any other resources that > might be of use I would greatly appreciate it. One of the tools we've been using extensively is FreeBSD's jail system. Especially with the ezjail port, it's pretty easy to have a backup tarball of each "system" that can then be easily deployed to another server if needed. It also makes it easy to migrate "servers" to other hardware in order to do upgrades, or re-balance workload if one particular piece of hardware is getting over or under utilized. The host system is a very basic install -- mostly just give it an IP and add users for the administrators. All the ports and details of their configs are in the individual jails. It's much more efficient than using something like VMware, which has horrific performance penalties. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:16:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B411065677 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD3C8FC18 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n479hTg3039970; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:43:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n479hS2F039967; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:43:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:43:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200905070658.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: References: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com> <200905070658.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= Subject: Re: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:16:33 -0000 > more so (for the base system I just install them always, as it doesn't pay off > in the long run to skip them). Portaudit for a (web)server has a lot of > notifications that "are not critical", like several issues over the last year > with php's safe mode that any sane webserver admin doesn't use. i don't know really what's PHP safe mode, just if someone says he/she needs PHP i make separate jail, and configure whatever she/he wants. it for sure have a lots of bugs (in PHP directly), and even more security holes by stupidly designed webpage he/she will put, but i don't care. it will not hurt anyone else ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:16:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1227106566B; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B18D8FC1A; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n479fNK8039963; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:41:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n479fLpg039960; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:41:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:41:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Paul Patterson In-Reply-To: <83156.91671.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <83156.91671.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:28:06 +0000 Cc: Gary Gatten , Olivier Mueller , Benjamin Krueger , Bill Moran , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:16:45 -0000 > If you aren't using ZFS, or even a GEOM volume with mirror/RAID5/softup/etc, > you cannot make the statement that hardware RAID is faster. I learned > that 3 years ago. i state exactly opposite. all hardware raid cards are made just to suck money from those who believe in it. like "performance is not enough - buy better/more expensive model." > This does not go for EMC, IBM, Hitachi high-end storage arrays where you write to TBs of RAM Cache. having same amount of extra memory on FreeBSD server directly will make better use of it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:28:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BD01065690 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianf@ozemail.com.au) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5929D8FC16 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianf@ozemail.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoCABtuAkp8qC4u/2dsb2JhbAAIkDrAAoQDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,310,1238947200"; d="scan'208";a="358239482" Received: from unknown (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([124.168.46.46]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 07 May 2009 20:18:12 +0800 Message-ID: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:18:03 +1000 From: Ian Fitzgerald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090506-0, 06/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: /etc/ttys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:28:43 -0000 Dumb question because of dumb action: can anyone point me to a place where I can find a copy of /etc/ttys? - suitable for FreeBSD v7.2 Thanks ianf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:33:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6301E106567B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F6F88FC0A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 33066 invoked by uid 89); 7 May 2009 12:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 7 May 2009 12:35:00 -0000 Message-ID: <4A02D50D.7080505@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:33:17 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Fitzgerald References: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/ttys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:33:28 -0000 Ian Fitzgerald wrote: > Dumb question because of dumb action: can anyone point me to a place > where I can find a copy of /etc/ttys? - suitable for FreeBSD v7.2 In it's entirety: http://ibctech.ca/ttys Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:33:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C9010656B6 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CF48FC18 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEC434640; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:33:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:33:30 +0200 From: cpghost To: Lars Hecking Message-ID: <20090507123330.GD1111@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090507105027.279A04E382@cork.irdesign.cypress.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090507105027.279A04E382@cork.irdesign.cypress.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 = no sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:33:35 -0000 On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 11:50:27AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: > I upgraded my system to 7.2 with cvsup, and sound has stopped working. I'm > running gnome, and both (...) > Sound module loaded: yes > > # kldstat |grep snd > 4 1 0xc09d6000 1abf8 snd_hda.ko > > # cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:3v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) > > dmesg: > > pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 Have you tried to set hw.snd.default_unit to the right port? >From snd_hda(4): The default audio device may be tuned by setting the hw.snd.default_unit sysctl, as described in sound(4), or explicitly specified in application settings. That's the most common cause for sound problems after the snd_hda upgrade. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:40:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B96D1065673 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887F98FC17 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090507124019.EUCJ25388.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:40:19 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.101.171]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090507124019.CWSL21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:40:19 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id AB1F866E7; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:40:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1953D6182 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:40:08 +0100 (BST) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 7 May 2009 13:40:09 +0100 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:40:09 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090507124008.GB46153@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=MkYXH8ygci0hPjFOMeMA:9 a=JRqaCRLl0G-LqKnzHlPNosj_evcA:4 a=UcFi0Rv5Jt60uoS8eiAA:9 a=pQPpw24mIpFYfI62R4iv67KhEzgA:4 Subject: Re: /etc/ttys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:40:22 -0000 --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 10:18:03PM +1000, Ian Fitzgerald wrote: > Dumb question because of dumb action: can anyone point me to a place=20 > where I can find a copy of /etc/ttys? - suitable for FreeBSD v7.2 /usr/share/examples/etc/ttys --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoC1qgACgkQixf5fBYiFmpZDwCgud6dMZiJSaeG2wzb/ZBmrLHX luAAoNRmlRM2b7ZKQO3WBo5AOiXsIt5U =wJlj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:44:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D0E106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49FB8FC1D for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net ([74.205.51.45] helo=gregory-larkins-macbook-pro.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1M22xo-000NdG-5Q; Thu, 07 May 2009 08:44:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4A02D7B4.5070705@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:44:36 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com> <20090507080157.93c8e5ee.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20090507080157.93c8e5ee.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: Warren Guy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:44:50 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: [...] > > The host system is a very basic install -- mostly just give it an IP and > add users for the administrators. All the ports and details of their > configs are in the individual jails. It's much more efficient than using > something like VMware, which has horrific performance penalties. > Hi Bill, We've been using VMware with FreeBSD guests for a few years now without any performance problems. In fact, jails even work well within a FreeBSD VM. What kinds of problems have you run into? Responding to the original question, we solved it by creating a FreeBSD VM and storing it as a template in VMware VirtualCenter. Whenever a new VM is needed, the template is deployed and customized with memory, extra disk space, IP address, etc. You can take it further by implementing a tool like Puppet, cfengine or Chef to perform the post-deployment configuration and keep the various recipe files under source control: http://reductivelabs.com/products/puppet/ (in the ports tree) http://www.cfengine.org/ (in the ports tree) http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Home (not in the ports tree) Cheers, Greg -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ http://twitter.com/sourcehosting From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 12:47:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9167D106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8718FC08 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1M230z-000Ijn-6N; Thu, 07 May 2009 16:47:53 +0400 To: Ian Fitzgerald References: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:47:53 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au> (Ian Fitzgerald's message of "Thu\, 07 May 2009 22\:18\:03 +1000") Message-ID: <14057078@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/ttys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:47:54 -0000 On Thu, 07 May 2009 22:18:03 +1000 Ian Fitzgerald wrote: > Dumb question because of dumb action: can anyone point me to a place > where I can find a copy of /etc/ttys? - suitable for FreeBSD v7.2 /usr/share/examples/etc/ttys WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:13:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F621065672 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D3328FC22 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 May 2009 13:13:14 -0000 Received: from ipa60.8.107.79.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.254.1]) [79.107.8.60] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 07 May 2009 15:13:14 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18jpJ8v0UAjsKQ287kuaITkopOrpBggmbKRTv4xjc WpobNGXxboBq3Z Message-ID: <4A02DE54.7070309@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:12:52 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Croft References: <0E40EC5D-8DC1-4DD9-9047-01212E98BE1A@visionarytechnical.com> In-Reply-To: <0E40EC5D-8DC1-4DD9-9047-01212E98BE1A@visionarytechnical.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple PPPoE connections on one machine (DSL load balancing) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:13:17 -0000 Jeff Croft wrote: > Hello -- > > I'm configuring FreeBSD 7.1 as a router/load-balancer and I just got > stuck. I know this sounds like a newbie question, but hear me out. > > I have three DSL line (AT&T in SF Bay Area, business class) connected > via ethernet to the box, and one more ethernet connected to an internal > network. The idea is to do some clever kind of load-balancing and/or > logging of DSL connections using pf. > > All three DSL lines are configured to use PPPoE. I can successfully > bring any one of them up individually, but when I try to bring more than > one up, using either ppp or mpd5, I get an error that looks like this > (example from ppp): > > ppp : tun0: Warning: iface add: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR, X.X.X.X -> D.D.D.D > ): File exists > > and then the 2nd link goes down. mpd5 says the same thing, but the error > is slightly different. For all three point-to-point links the remote > side of the point to point (D.D.D.D) is always the same IP address, so > naturally it doesn't want to add multiple routing table entries which > point to the same destination. > > The vendor claims to be unable to change the value of D.D.D.D because > "everyone in your region has the same remote address." They also don't > support mlppp, so multilink is out. Did you try multilink PPP? they might not support, but it may work anyway... > Also, I would like easy, real-time, programmatic access to the IP > address of each individual DSL line. > > So far, I've thought of the following workarounds: > > 1. Use cheap linksys boxen to hang off each DSL line so the FreeBSD > network stack doesn't have to do the PPPoE. I'm concerned that they'll > be able to handle the volume of individual connections I'm planning on, > even with the firmware replaced with something decent. Plus it's three > extra devices on my network! > 2. Use network virtualization such as this. I don't have any experience > with it, but I'm guessing it would do everything I want. > http://imunes.tel.fer.hr/virtnet/ > > Does anyone have any ideas how to solve this problem more elegantly? Not elegantly, but you can change the remote peer address to something else. That is: 1) Bring up tun0, you get from IPCP 1.1.1.1 -> 2.2.2.2 ifconfig tun0 1.1.1.1 3.3.3.3 2) Bring up tun1, you get 1.1.1.2 -> 2.2.2.2 ifconfig tun1 1.1.1.2 4.4.4.4 3) Bring up tun2, you get 1.1.1.3 -> 2.2.2.2 The result will be: tun0 1.1.1.1 3.3.3.3 tun1 1.1.1.2 4.4.4.4 tun2 1.1.1.3 2.2.2.2 You'll need to write a custom script, to modify the addresses, I think both ppp and mpd can do that. Are you going to use pf's route-to to forward packets to all three interfaces? Since, the above hack doesn't "solve" the next hop problem. You can only have one next hop for each destination. On -CURRENT there is support for ECMP, which may be a complete and correct solution for this problem. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:13:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6441065691 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547208FC21 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10C51EBC0A; Thu, 7 May 2009 09:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:13:36 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20090507091336.5cdc3101.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4A02D7B4.5070705@FreeBSD.org> References: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com> <20090507080157.93c8e5ee.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A02D7B4.5070705@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Warren Guy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:13:39 -0000 In response to Greg Larkin : > Bill Moran wrote: > [...] > > > > The host system is a very basic install -- mostly just give it an IP and > > add users for the administrators. All the ports and details of their > > configs are in the individual jails. It's much more efficient than using > > something like VMware, which has horrific performance penalties. > > > > Hi Bill, > > We've been using VMware with FreeBSD guests for a few years now without > any performance problems. In fact, jails even work well within a FreeBSD > VM. What kinds of problems have you run into? Really? Do you have any machines with more than 30 virtual systems on them? Even our beefiest hardware can't handle more than 10 VMWare machines. We use both jails and VMWare. Each has it's pros and cons. The big pro of VMWare is that you can simulate an entire piece of hardware, which is necessary for much of our lab and testing work. The big con of VMWare is performance and overhead. Another big pro of VMWare is that we can have FreeBSD, and Linux, and MS operating systems all running on the same hypervisor, which jails can't do. The big pro of jails is that we can put a crapload of jails on each physical server. Six or 8 is typical, but we have systems with more than 30 humming along happily. Each jail uses far less disk space than a virtual machine, and uses far less CPU. Also, the jail mechanism puts fewer layers between the OS and the hardware, which means things like network and disk performance suffer very little. Take two equivalent machines and put a FreeBSD jail on one and FreeBSD in a virtual machine on the other and benchmark the network and disk performance on each. You'll find that VMWare loses big time. If that's not enough to convince you, then increase the number of systems on each machine to about 10 and rerun the tests while the systems are under load -- VMWare doesn't scale up nearly as well as jails do. If you're doing purely CPU usage, then the two options appear to be roughly equivalent, although I've never done an actual test. Restarting a jail takes seconds, restarting a VM takes minutes. We've frequently had to go through our dev servers and shut down VMWare virtual machines to free up resources when a few of the VMs were seeing heavy usage. We've had the same problem with jails far less frequently. Like I said earlier, VMWare has its advantages, but performance is not one of them. And yes, we have VMWare VMs with FreeBSD jails inside them. It's a bizarre combination, but it works quite well ... right up until someone wants to load up one of the PostgreSQL servers and the disk issue brings the system to its knees ... that's actually a pretty good benchmark to illustrate the problem: pgbench will show how much VMWare hurts disk performance right out of the gate. I guess the overall issues are more with scalability than performance, but the two issues are linked in such a way that I frequently don't separate them. VMWare starts with a minor performance hit compared to jails, that performance hit increases significantly as you add VMs, whereas jails scale up very well. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:14:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235B210656C8 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE23F8FC19 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1032496ewy.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mSoN9Lfl/2NHgwpZFQy73nP7Z2UwONf6rT5uY8f3nYY=; b=QFGyx1MuKUTFPz+s3E8SaMIsAJSrSQQAqGq8wWP0U/TQ1Fz3QzbMmjn577JWJpFDY7 w0AoVnQZLhffsfdu+kMQT2/BWk6FXudm4MHNfF+NHVuqgEyW1TrtiF6s0TFt5ldBD8Ff /tOGReldAfC5cXjIU8l37sw+MQVy4N5/EWGMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EXpogVjLkpmjVo47m47V7OcPxpjEflxf0yGB6/jMvOJ0SrUnSJ3MivFnh7l/t1n48N ApBtyLzr/r0yXDV4sgBrGnNyYGZdowjHPVa1u3yhsisj0MCIikTbioWKr5oYBtMpvVH5 WEVXgZIV5l4f5y649KNmXjGDlMlLi2JvtaJUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.120.7 with SMTP id s7mr338266ebc.51.1241702064711; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:14:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:14:26 -0000 Every time I log in to xfce, it throws a warning that it cannot lookup "bsdbox" (which is my hostname as defined in rc.conf). The warning dialog suggests altering /etc/hosts to fix the problem. In fact, it's not a "problem" because my WAN connectivity is fine, but I still want to resolve this. In /etc/hosts there are two lines containing: localhost localhost.my.domain Since I'm connecting to the Internet through a dynamic-IP ISP without a reserved domain name, I have nothing with which to replace "my.domain". What should I do to resolve this issue? In a situation like this (note: I am behind a home router), is there actually anything I can replace "my.domain" with? Pardon my very limited understanding of networking concepts :) Thanks, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:32:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB9E1065670 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602DF8FC20 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EA316C03E9; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:32:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n47DWdns023312; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:32:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 15:32:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Underwood Message-Id: <20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:32:48 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:14:24 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > In /etc/hosts there are two lines containing: > > localhost localhost.my.domain Really? No IP? I mean like ::1 localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.local bsdbox 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.local. > Since I'm connecting to the Internet through a dynamic-IP ISP without > a reserved domain name, I have nothing with which to replace > "my.domain". You can replace it with anything that doesn't resolve, such as ".local", ".localdomain", ".dingenskirchens"... :-) > What should I do to resolve this issue? In a situation like this > (note: I am behind a home router), is there actually anything I can > replace "my.domain" with? It's important that /etc/hosts defines the values for localhost and your selected hostname (bsdbox), at least with the 127.0.0.1 IP. You can add further IPs with the same name if your machine spans a LAN (such as from 192.168.1.1). You can check everything with % host localhost and % host bsdbox so it should resolve to 127.0.0.1. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:34:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5121F1065674 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC30A8FC14 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so791137fxm.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/O4eifSfOhYmESURGP25j2i05Zb2zr5k3ckQr2b4pl0=; b=VvwRTpbPpleNezE03zl9xum7u/0MPFwFPqrJ81JR73EkYR9iSANummr9AfrlNiHBrM bJRrxnIf1Htg6qrmopojxmUwKPKaQJZwlutqf5tT6rdEa/sa27U6fSw7dT6W/QRI5eOY X/XWORgktaj5FCzgDCVx33fzBKNBZ3oBdeK6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JsNg2MkGL/u5msHPEFn+9qMGnhkV3k7A2P6zZ5NubPv+F3xqdvyX3HsYy458thYxnl lDk08AWMfbLFGQgspxvrSdR+0iYUzXQuqOS6ym+S6s9cz3a3/03zf7CdCjP4epAqcXsJ UAOcTLbzTEL2YA6p0Vm2D7A/Zc8uG1+jo2VIU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.123.129 with SMTP id p1mr1144282far.0.1241703295677; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:34:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:34:57 -0000 On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Every time I log in to xfce, it throws a warning that it cannot lookup > "bsdbox" (which is my hostname as defined in rc.conf). The warning > dialog suggests altering /etc/hosts to fix the problem. In fact, it's > not a "problem" because my WAN connectivity is fine, but I still want > to resolve this. > > In /etc/hosts there are two lines containing: > > localhost localhost.my.domain > > Since I'm connecting to the Internet through a dynamic-IP ISP without > a reserved domain name, I have nothing with which to replace > "my.domain". > > What should I do to resolve this issue? In a situation like this > (note: I am behind a home router), is there actually anything I can > replace "my.domain" with? > > Pardon my very limited understanding of networking concepts :) > > Thanks, > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > Try adding the following line to /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 bsdbox bsdbox.my.domain Do not delete the localhost lines. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:38:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5021065678 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930588FC1F for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1049882ewy.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8h8lQ3lWOhIffrWHReiRp6KyYKSIcHYW7Qfxs7MhK3g=; b=B6FeKkrUb+t7b2AquwWLo2J+9DVVH1Q2OxYH1pt8GekmkcHfte7iILhwa6uOHNGBMU hBl9qarY2Vhve48Pke98gta6KW43LK4JssYeJ6rlgf8wYrTRElHeeL2z/3HRRWwPRy04 1zE1lxUtGGFg92iUVe8fXUG9LQVm4Z7OdsAa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J2Q/WNxyTb/vawj2erxFwcN86HiOS/nUrx58us4smYdWD4g1aR7MpqAlPvNQHcirOQ +c8T8bbZOpILP1+FgLs8oC9C6/mVo9SJUcThz+vXRpUlmRJ492GkSnQCSKHhVg4pSdJN sh2UKeO9XZsMwTh20Xi4Mj994WdEHpT0GnRT8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.79.3 with SMTP id c3mr2979363ebb.41.1241703479513; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:38:01 -0000 > Really? No IP? I mean like > > ::1 localhost > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.local bsdbox > 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.local. Right, I realize I was unclear. I just meant that two lines contained "localhost localhost.my.domain", not that they ONLY contained that phrase. So, yes, I'm referring to the lines starting with "::1" and "127.0.0.1". Let me make sure I understand (part of) your advice. Since I set hostname="bsdbox" in rc.conf, I should replace "localhost" instances in /etc/ttys ? Thanks, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:38:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF67B106568D for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6088FC12 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1050436ewy.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:38:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=T2P294NP2eAGWdhvmymSnXulalD5JHEEx9XP0q5eciQ=; b=IVCYbISJQsqbZ4HC/SUULgcVVI0xMx9eDC2aLNoN/I30RjhRjYHSvF1ss/BOpBzmfH 8gTse2QOt10yL/QAy/ma1tgYo66lxysKQuldA1jHKvRa6a1vlGRaDAoUtxjBuBetAdEY yNvEImwt1qilatt9yR3RDU4hW72OA+cmxtsNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YjTA5+dx3nbu+RW1s+HqRVA+tfQLjtSmHofUgGE0oICx86VDL5nP8GXgwimWoRSIxW ZEDlz5hHDCfKKKKEVkBLSn/0plSLkXatYBV0o0bISWmj373YtgXQLl5UEQf4XDB/okJk QuR0rFYUn4Ko2sYJ2Q7sekv+fI42nl2YmJEIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.10.8 with SMTP id 8mr2974563ebj.83.1241703528483; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:38:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:38:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:38:50 -0000 *Correction* In previous email, "/etc/ttys" --> "/etc/hosts". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:40:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B28B106568C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131E98FC0A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so794449fxm.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:40:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=s10wNVLvjq3BK70WDoiwgBzqUy+INAifkZhp/i0fl5s=; b=g5QWnk7esUZoqb/EmxyITRY3cRuvxyw/70Ct0n4E3xh+e4cl7Yc3Un1pF0h9qpF9M6 ZnPZvn9fNCn28Q5TO6kidK0phIPafDCveWgTFiuxtLyC+suFHVyMtT/CCnFcGDkMp3EU VGOLmMlnu5/rsu6hP7Y/XOQq3NgtYUGxR2aNo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fUXqzlTUa5qZThN51wi/bJvSWsqtEKTuJBRvtQlaTt6J1qdPPjV5RYXebnkCULDdiZ TEtdCL6Zf/TTTBMYXmuxFCFs1D/f+gW8AK98VJBPJDTunIB7yAxqe0rbSDxvfyiJUPVo Glq/k2llySHVmUiZC3B16NVVKJC3EWRTz2mO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.127.8 with SMTP id e8mr1586698fas.81.1241703635123; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:40:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:40:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:40:37 -0000 On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > > Really? No IP? I mean like > > > > ::1 localhost > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.local bsdbox > > 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.local. > > Right, I realize I was unclear. I just meant that two lines contained > "localhost localhost.my.domain", not that they ONLY contained that > phrase. So, yes, I'm referring to the lines starting with "::1" and > "127.0.0.1". > > Let me make sure I understand (part of) your advice. Since I set > hostname="bsdbox" in rc.conf, I should replace "localhost" instances > in /etc/ttys ? > > Thanks, > Daniel > I don't think you should touch /etc/ttys for this problem. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 13:54:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8151065670 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31268FC15 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n47DrJG6099212; Thu, 7 May 2009 09:53:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n47DrJoo099211; Thu, 7 May 2009 09:53:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:53:19 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Mel Flynn Message-ID: <20090507135319.GA99195@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200905070903.36706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905070903.36706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:54:12 -0000 On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:03:36AM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 21:09:07 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:00:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > 10 GOTO 10 > > > > > > On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" > wrote: > > > > Do you want obtain new market share? > > > > > > > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a > > > > best seller > > > > > > FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals. > > > > Everyone is a beginner sometime. So, FreeBSD is for beginners. > > Otherwise there would be no FreeBSD --- or you. > > What he means is that FreeBSD does no hand holding or hide stuff "because you > don't need access to it anyway". Also, there aren't many that started > computing on FreeBSD. I know what he thinks he means. But, what he says is that improvements are against the ethic of FreeBSD and that simply is not true. ////jerry > -- > Mel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 14:03:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAC4106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtai107.cox.net (fed1rmmtai107.cox.net [68.230.241.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7558FC17 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090507135013.XDER18948.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net>; Thu, 7 May 2009 09:50:13 -0400 Received: from vaio ([98.176.32.99]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id odqC1b00428KUXW04dqCC6; Thu, 07 May 2009 09:50:12 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mXpdQWDzxRsIklyyVB4A:9 a=_WJEe-JHA-1L3vTpznYA:7 a=YiZ4xfipeIG6o_R32R_eNRtlossA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:50:07 -0700 From: Robert To: kenneth hatteland Message-ID: <20090507065007.0a6f0639@vaio> In-Reply-To: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no> References: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: abiword X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:03:42 -0000 On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:16:45 +0200 kenneth hatteland wrote: > I am having serious problems getting my freebsd machines with > abiword installed to open .doc files. Text becomes totally garbled > and unreadable. Have searched the net and the few abiword forums I > can find but nowhere does it say what nob is unturned on my > freebsd installs. winxp and linux machines opens such documents ok. > Anyone using this and know something wise ? > OpenOffice would be an alternative, but I only have 4gb left of /usr > so it won` t build. > > blessed be > Kenneth, norway Hello Kenneth I too had this problem with abiword and FreeBSD. Well, it is still there but I have worked around it. This is part of email I from the abiword list that I started. I found that I could then use the bitstream-vera fonts without any trouble. I then edited the normal.awt file locater at /usr/local/share/abiword-2.6/templates/ from Times New Roman to Bitstream Charter. Now I can create new documents and when I pull in an existing document I can "select all" and change it to Bitstream Charter. It definitely is a bandaid fix. All of the other files in directories at /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/ are gz files. I am not a programmer but I would _guess_ the Xorg upgrade is not opening those gz files for use by abiword. Long story short, I am able to use abiword and can live with this. I know this is not the solution you are looking for but it can help you be productive. I am not sure but I think this started with the recent update of Xorg. Abiword 2.7.0 has been released and when the port is updated I am hoping this problem is solved. I hope this helps Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 14:13:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECCD106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.lists@fsck.ch) Received: from secure.socket.ch (secure.socket.ch [212.103.70.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EC18FC22 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.lists@fsck.ch) Received: from 80-219-162-83.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.219.162.83] helo=default.fsck.ch) by secure.socket.ch with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1M241d-000LLT-Ve for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 May 2009 15:52:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4A02E7A2.3010905@fsck.ch> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:52:34 +0200 From: Tobias Roth User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090410) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "secure.socket.ch", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: Hi I got these log messages: May 7 15:41:32 default kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=31833792 May 7 15:41:32 default kernel: GEOM_ELI: g_eli_read_done() failed ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=65536)] May 7 15:41:32 default kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=65536)]error = 5 May 7 15:41:36 default kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=31833792 May 7 15:41:36 default kernel: GEOM_ELI: g_eli_read_done() failed ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=16384)] May 7 15:41:36 default kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=16384)]error = 5 [...] Content analysis details: (-3.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 1.9 TVD_RCVD_IP TVD_RCVD_IP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.9 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 80.219.162.83 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: freebsd.lists@fsck.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on secure.socket.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA g_eli_read_done( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:13:07 -0000 Hi I got these log messages: May 7 15:41:32 default kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=31833792 May 7 15:41:32 default kernel: GEOM_ELI: g_eli_read_done() failed ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=65536)] May 7 15:41:32 default kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=65536)]error = 5 May 7 15:41:36 default kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=31833792 May 7 15:41:36 default kernel: GEOM_ELI: g_eli_read_done() failed ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=16384)] May 7 15:41:36 default kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=16384)]error = 5 Should I be worried? I my disk dying? I know which file causes the error when read, and it's not an important one. Can I just delete it and go on, or will this haunt me in the near future? Thanks, Tobias -- Tobias Roth || http://fsck.ch || PGP: 0xCE599B4D | The "c" in "rap" is silent. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 14:28:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9D1106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4928FC26 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204BF3D313; Thu, 7 May 2009 16:28:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n47ERt3I023790; Thu, 7 May 2009 16:27:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:27:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Underwood Message-Id: <20090507162754.9a285eb4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:28:05 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:37:59 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Let me make sure I understand (part of) your advice. Since I set > hostname="bsdbox" in rc.conf, I should replace "localhost" instances > in /etc/ttys ? No, the name "localhost" should be in your /etc/hosts, along with the hostname you selected. In this case, something like # for localhost: ::1 localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost # for your hostname: 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.local bsdbox 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.local. would be okay. You can use ".my.domain" instead of ".local"; ".localdomain" is okay, too. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 14:33:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C1D1065675 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D658FC28 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38053CB51; Thu, 7 May 2009 16:33:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n47EXPjH023810; Thu, 7 May 2009 16:33:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:33:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20090507163325.31fbe1b9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090507135319.GA99195@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200905070903.36706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <20090507135319.GA99195@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:33:45 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:53:19 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > I know what he thinks he means. But, what he says is that > improvements are against the ethic of FreeBSD and that simply > is not true. Never said such thing. In fact, there are many improvements I'd like to see in FreeBSD, as well as in the applications provided for this OS (which tend to be sponsored by Bloaty more and more). FreeBSD is in fact an excellent OS for beginners, because it teaches the basics - the things that are REALLY important when you want to do something with computers, expecially when you want to do this as a job to make money with it. Stupidly clicking on squeaking and dancing buttons is nothing intelligency is needed for. FreeBSD, on the other hand, improves learning habits, extends knowledge and leads to precious experiences. I don't know much about the "ethic of FreeBSD", because I use it as an OS, not as a church. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 14:42:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF562106567C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBF58FC17 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n47EgHE4045412 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 16:42:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n47EgHgY045409 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 16:42:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:42:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:42:21 -0000 FreeBSD7 with isc-dhcp30-server. It hands out an IP address, OK, but the BASH environment variable HOSTNAME is not set. Why? (A DNS server is active on the network and can succesfully be queried from a FreeBSD bash command (nslookup or host) to see the hostname associated with the IP-address) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 14:54:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C9A106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D8228FC0C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 24358 invoked from network); 7 May 2009 14:54:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.139.18) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 May 2009 14:54:14 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C92C81743E; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:54:21 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 00:54:21 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090507145421.GB60549@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:54:30 -0000 On Wed 2009-05-06 14:32:47 UTC+0200, giorgio novello (gio.nov@vodafone.it) wrote: > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best > seller The OP is likely trolling, but reminded me of the Lazarus project. It's loosely based on Borland Delphi and is apparently quite good for VB-like RAD development. It's in FreeBSD ports tree. http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 15:04:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74151106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC1DE8FC18 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 23671 invoked from network); 7 May 2009 14:37:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.139.18) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 May 2009 14:37:17 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 91A351743E; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:37:24 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 00:37:24 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Daniel Underwood Message-ID: <20090507143724.GA60549@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Preferred client for DynDNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:04:08 -0000 On Wed 2009-05-06 10:40:46 UTC-0400, Daniel Underwood (djuatdelta@gmail.com) wrote: > There appear to be several clients capable of working with DynDNS.com > services here: > > > E.g., dns/inadyn, dns/ipcheck > > Can anyone make recommendations? My goal in using DynDNS is to allow > remote SSH logins to a machine behind a router at my house (using a > common ISP). ddclient has worked very well for me. You may also want to use sshguard-ipfw to protect from brute-force SSH attacks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 15:43:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882B31065673 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=371a3d7c5=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576848FC1C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=371a3d7c5=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,311,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="10601473" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 07 May 2009 10:14:25 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2AC458506; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:14:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:14:24 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Michel Talon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr> References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:43:01 -0000 --On Wednesday, May 06, 2009 22:55:23 -0500 Michel Talon wrote: > > Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD. Last time I asked the >> question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic. > > Indeed it is cryptic, let me gave an example which works: > > niobe% cat /etc/amd.conf > [global] > auto_dir = /.amd > log_file = /var/log/amd.log > log_options = error,fatal,user > map_type = file > search_path = /etc > [/Cd] > map_name = amd.cdrom ># For nfs mounts > [/Net] > map_name = amd.net > > > > niobe% cat /etc/amd.cdrom > cdrom type:=cdfs;opts:=ro,nosuid;dev:=/dev/acd0;fs:=${autodir}/cdrom > > > niobe% cat /etc/amd.net > /defaults type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost};rhost:=${key} > * opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,nosuid,nodev,soft > > Now some comments. I use amd without options so it just uses > /etc/amd.conf to configure itself. When you try to access /Cd > it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.cdrom, and if you try to access > /Net it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.net. > > Finally if you try to access /Net/ada for example, the key is ada, and > so is the remote host. It is queried for NFS mounts and everything is > mounted. After > niobe% cd /Net/ada > i have: > niobe% df > ... > ada:/ada 36196652 26972064 7356232 79% /.amd/ada/ada > ada:/ada1 287391356 246682696 26109996 90% /.amd/ada/ada1 > ada:/ada2 288362876 180649856 93064956 66% /.amd/ada/ada2 > ada:/ada3 99188500 80794628 13273960 86% /.amd/ada/ada3 > ada:/adm 36204684 1682772 32653156 5% /.amd/ada/adm > > Note that autodir is /.amd and fs is ${autodir}/${rhost} as you can > see. > > Getting out of /Net/ada those mounts are unmounted. > > I hope this helps explaining some of the mysteries of amd. > Indeed it does, and I thank you very much for that example. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 15:52:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCC8106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dondugger47@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ABF8FC28 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dondugger47@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so710957rvb.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 08:52:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IT5XPaaTNMRaE5+L5LSaYsrAuK8wx5wCu5jI+UwSNTA=; b=CRU3RxBsfVtgOZgs7qe5kWyaeGRCEAdBy0ivjEyWoBiCkZSw/p5dYtVmtpW8aegxH0 1U4v6ehVPdqJIFURT1bAcxIEmtitNn5U8o9JyoL0NAqplU3PBFvF4a4GSGyJZuWV+kls omuSMh2gFyiIiZfxiXzpAMxKC+j5xbuJiq1ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iInY74eEFEsaprN3g7sw/dXwzAY/KWSqnMAELM9j/2j/rc1gamUKZ3kbwbmwvk25Yq MYtz/XRluVBFJBqR+vlt42Vfh9gzVZ/YsENyNQ02h2u2MytoyD4C4KWT8qTgJ2cRN9CP t3aZJycFfP88liFiyLI+IIshycoaAMqGxAMkU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.162.1 with SMTP id p1mr1229922rvo.259.1241709939173; Thu, 07 May 2009 08:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:25:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Don Dugger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Compass 597 Sprint X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:52:04 -0000 Has anyone got a Compass 597 from Sprint to work? And if so can I get some pointers? Thx in advance... Don 8) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 16:59:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F49106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 16:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263878FC15 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 16:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n47H2THf050461; Thu, 7 May 2009 19:02:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n47H2TTx050460; Thu, 7 May 2009 19:02:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: MargoAndTodd In-Reply-To: <4A030821.9070101@gmail.com> References: <4A01E5A4.2000808@gmail.com> <1241666722.1568.4.camel@pukruppa.net> <4A030821.9070101@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 19:02:28 +0200 Message-Id: <1241715748.50410.2.camel@pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.27.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: FreeBsd-Questions Subject: Re: [Samba] PDC and "group" question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:59:22 -0000 Am Donnerstag, den 07.05.2009, 09:11 -0700 schrieb MargoAndTodd: > Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > > > I am not quite sure, I understand your question correctly: > > probably you will want to use commands like > > # net groupmap add ntgroup="Domain Admins" unixgroup=wheel type=d > > rid=512 > > which would map the Windows group "Domain Admins" to the local UNIX > > group wheel and so on. See the documentation on samba.org for more > > details examples. > > Hi Peter, > > There is "a lot" of documentation out on samba.org. > Can you point me to where to start? I think the main document would be http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/groupmapping.html but it assumes you really have a Primary Domain Controller up and running. Greetings and good luck Uli. > > Many thanks, > -T From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 17:47:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13ABC106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 17:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Midspan@phihongusa.com) Received: from pn4.xo.com (pn4.xo.com [207.88.224.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D528FC0A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 17:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Midspan@phihongusa.com) Received: from warrior.xo.com (warrior.xo.com [207.155.253.151]) by pn4.xo.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) External) with ESMTP id B82EC3E3C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (ConcentricHost relay 1.2); with ESMTP id B55D77600; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IBM-PAIGE-PC (c-24-14-10-100.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.10.100]) by warrior.xo.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) Relay) with ESMTP id B55D77600 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 13:46:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Midspan Manager" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Phihong USA Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:46:59 -0500 Message-Id: <20090507174659.B55D77600@warrior.xo.com> Content-Type: text/plain ; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Myths about Power Over Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 17:47:05 -0000 Myths about Power Over Ethernet May 7, 2008 Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) technology integrates power and data across = standard Cat5/5e/6 network cabling and provides more flexibility in to= day=E2=80=99s workplace. PoE enables power to be supplied to network d= evices, such as IP phones, network cameras, and wireless access points= through a single, most often existing, network cable. When combined w= ith an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) a PoE network delivers conti= nuous operation and minimizes business downtime by eliminating most po= wer interruptions. With the ability to install endpoints in any locati= on PoE technology provides a scalable and flexible networking infrastr= ucture geared for growth and efficiency. =20 PoE Switches can provide all the power I need or will need. Today most switches are merely PoE-enabled. This means the majority r= ely on power management to share available power across the switch por= ts. The switches are designed with a smaller power supply that is typi= cally capable of powering the switch itself and providing the required= 15.4 watts of power over a limited number of ports.=20 For example: A 24-port PoE Switch with power management typically has= a 195-watt power supply. After the 40 watts needed to power the switc= h, you have approximately 155 watts remaining. If 12 of the 24 ports a= re used to connect end devices using 11.5 watts each, you would only h= ave 17 watts remaining to provide power on the last 12 ports. The mat= h doesn=E2=80=99t match the ports: 195W =E2=80=93 40W (switch) =E2=80=93= 138 (12 devices @ 11.5W/ea) =3D 17W left for power on 12 ports=20 Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effectiv= e solution. =20 =20 A midspan and a PoE switch are the same. A PoE Midspan is not a switch. A Midspan is an additional PoE power s= ource that can be used to offer full power to all endpoint devices. P= oE Midspans (Power Hub or Power Injector) pass data from a switch and = =E2=80=98inject=E2=80=99 safe power acting as a patch panel of sorts. = Midspans are commonly used with either a non-PoE switch, an existing = PoE switch, or a new PoE switch in a network. In addition to offering = full power across all available ports, midspans costs substantially le= ss per port and overall than a new PoE enabled switch. Myth Busted: Midspans do not switch =E2=80=93 they make use of existin= g best-in-class switches. They inject safe power across all ports and= cost less than PoE switches. .=20 =20 Only a switch that has PoE built in should be used to power devices l= ike IP Phones, Access Points, and IP Security Cameras.=20 Switches were designed to, well, switch. PoE Switches are designed wi= th power management and have to distribute different power as required= to ports but there is often not enough power for all devices plus the= power required to complete the primary task - switching. Networks th= at have multiple devices like IP phones, IP cameras, wireless access p= oints quickly go beyond the limited capacity of managed power PoE swit= ches. As more PoE devices continue to grow in capabilities and market= share this managed power limitation will become more and more evident= =2E Midspans, in contrast to switches, were designed to provide full = power on every port and deliver safe and reliable power based on the i= ndustry standards (IEEE802.3af/at).=20 Myth Busted: Rather than relying on power management in a switch use a= midspan that can deliver full power (15.4W) to every port for all PoE= -enabled devices now and in the future. =20 =20 Ethernet devices not PoE-enabled (non 802.3af/at compliant) cannot be= powered using PoE technology.=20 Many devices do not directly accept Power-over-Ethernet but can still = use PoE technology. If the device uses less than 12.5 watts (802.3af) = or less than 50 watts (802.3at+) and connects to an IP Ethernet networ= k you can use a PoE splitter. PoE splitters enable you to accept PoE = power from any IEEE 802.3af/at compliant switch or midspan then separa= tes the data and power on to two seprate cables. The data is connecte= d to the end device through a standard RJ45 plug while the power is co= nnected using a standard 5.5 x 2.1 x 12mm Adapter Plug. Splitters can= also convert the input voltage to the required voltage for a non-PoE = device. Splitters are traditionally used with older network products w= hich only accept power through their (DC) jack and data through their = RJ-45 jack. Myth Busted: PoE splitters can be used in conjunction with PoE midspan= s and switches to provide both the data connectivity and power require= d by most endpoint devices.=20 =20 I need/will need additional PoE switch ports to power my IP cameras a= nd high-power pan, tilt, and zoom (PTZ) cameras.=20 Today, many devices have evolved into more advanced solutions with hig= her power requirements. The traditional approach was to endure a =E2=80= =9Cforklift upgrade=E2=80=9D. This meant buying new PoE switches at co= nsiderable cost and physically swapping out the existing switches to m= eet higher power requirements or add more powered ports. There is an e= asy and more cost-effective way =E2=80=93 separate the data and power = in the wiring closet (IBF). It is more efficient and costs less to sep= arate your data and power allowing you to keep your best-in-class busi= ness switch for your IP needs and supplement it where required with be= st-in-class midspan technology to power the endpoints.=20 Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effectiv= e solution.=20 =20 All midspans are created equal . . . they are all the same.=20 Always select a best-in-class midspan. If you wanted to enhance your s= witched network wouldn=E2=80=99t use a best-in-class network switch? = Of course you would. A midspan designed and manufactured by a leading = power supply company that understands power, power requirements, and o= ne that delivers enterprise-level solutions.=20 Select a midspan manufacturer that has multiple members on the IEEE (P= oE) committee helping to define safe, new PoE standards. This ensures = that every midspan is designed to meet current and future IEEE specifi= cations for Power-over-Ethernet.=20 Select a midspan manufacturer that designs, manufactures, and tests it= s own product rather than outsourcing these tasks across the globe to = cut costs. Select a midspan that has a high-speed, common interface to access the= management console. A USB port is not as cheap as a serial port (RS-2= 32) but is faster, more user-friendly, and more common on high quality= midspans.=20 Myth Busted: Although there are many midspan manufacturers out there, = few have the power supply experience, quality controls, and manufactur= ing capability to produce best-in-class midspans. All midspans are NO= T created equal. =20 =20 =20 =C2=A92009 midspans.com. Midspans.com is a division of Phihong USA Inc. All Rights Reserved=20 You are being sent this email because you have expressed interest in = PoE products in the past. If you do not wish to receive emails from us= in the future and be removed from our list please click on the link b= elow.=20 To unsubscribe, please click here. www.phihong.com - 47800 Fremont Blvd., Fremont, CA. 94538 - Phone 510-= 445-0100=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 18:18:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C46B1065672 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FE48FC17 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c3so543470ana.13 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t+eku8zPaO+oBxT8U/xxsY4aLNK8kiMsvy8AoFOWYiQ=; b=wsDClR6gSsE7+IRLeMZvYN+g9P5NkHUkRq5Z9Hy3ApDZRDPGfSWNJMnvTEELG9ommt boUqpbn12ce1/WUa/2gGOuJtuPFzj6JyWZQKhPsfVZQpDTmf67yWfOGrs2JYlEF//zqF +7NYHEIyQy1hvR+lAHyUpwupzDS8i1HSblW3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=erATDEhmwQnxt8iQbsMv90R8uPIAApk6ryYUZBrhPcDIVtAzOFTf3O+xDC72lxS8JQ SlSM1H6alqJjLwtIczCLNbftiT7EFFi0apvjLPq8hMpEaGsttXjrLRoCNgBZq5i67Obz ynKR0je5ja+pxOAQiRGDnBLmQew2hZjplQmrQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.164.12 with SMTP id m12mr5855238ane.131.1241719024759; Thu, 07 May 2009 10:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:57:03 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 18:18:53 -0000 So there's cron. Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start his/her programs at bootup of the system? And then run a script when the system is shutting down? I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's not really what I'm looking for. I gave my friends access to my FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or MySQL on higher ports running as their own user. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 18:23:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12D210656BF for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A4B8FC0A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 5EE463C05E8; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:23:21 -0700 From: Chris Cowart To: Nerius Landys Message-ID: <20090507182321.GB49013@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Nerius Landys , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 18:23:21 -0000 --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nerius Landys wrote: > So there's cron. Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start > his/her programs at bootup of the system? And then run a script when > the system is shutting down? I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's > not really what I'm looking for. I gave my friends access to my > FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or > MySQL on higher ports running as their own user. Each user could create an entry in their crontab using the @reboot keyword. --=20 Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAwAGBQJKAycZAAoJEIGh6j3cHUNP9skQAKOx9Er0T7dV23bcIn98zsE8 xgDsuxCpQ/uDpAMbZLOMSvK5q9lcKcdsizrO4Uq6B4ExNv+TBk8AmJoG/cnvM8X+ NDv9BTo5IG+sO8igJRJrDkiQr/c/CTVpF3LvKkp1IxSYWrqvbqmlry7V2vosS9zG 0xbSIPFUccwfE9yxAdXmaQEoHBvWXkkPpnrkSY8IqFjZEPirr3CAqIBsqezMZnFr kCZwyG+eTNLNif9jkgFTjyKiFjSC26oaI5Usbl89qiN3O+FzdFeaN14jy7ZIutvF 2qnbTW4fdYNTskekamWkBBcxth79dTgk+hLo8q4Hf/8JPYWbt5S4DZZ8w6KTYQ1D LiCkPP8Bkp2J8R6vIdLykydgX+5SXmuYaYBaqNJt6W/1QVyhMaes4Hw2nk6x6dWL IXEActXNIMaA44AdGk6BQx2KH5jCjPOcsn4YcNTeVGv/LrJ4/mvIlTVE3pmOa1/G N7/mwiZ9KUDcWhGIC3Ev0g/hO2f41eQvnI2IpahLT/chvev/K34Sg4vXBDvpdO3c mNgLCvaS8u3jgYYymuSmM0/UuYF2GZFRvFa5wZFuOExhCYiJ+k+dlYNJy4aNo1we 69ZX2zy4Klv4Qg2GKbA1yYYjS5RMSbfHXjDhjdv3a9DCumBzvAwSlL1Ugvxh9B21 j06Hi2lg6HkjYdFs3Vt3 =OHzh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 18:23:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4298D106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from kazon.borderworlds.dk (kazon.borderworlds.dk [213.239.213.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053588FC1E for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from talaxian.borderworlds.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazon.borderworlds.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2431711A; Thu, 7 May 2009 20:23:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A032736.4080802@borderworlds.dk> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 20:23:50 +0200 From: Christian Laursen Organization: The Border Worlds User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090419) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 18:23:52 -0000 Nerius Landys wrote: > So there's cron. Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start > his/her programs at bootup of the system? And then run a script when > the system is shutting down? I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's > not really what I'm looking for. I gave my friends access to my > FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or > MySQL on higher ports running as their own user. Starting something at boot is easy enough. The user can just add a line like this to his/her crontab: @reboot /path/to/command At shutdown is not possible via cron though. -- Christian Laursen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 18:30:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682B0106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9A98FC12 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33C59EBC0A; Thu, 7 May 2009 14:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:29:59 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Nerius Landys Message-Id: <20090507142959.0775bcb4.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 18:30:04 -0000 In response to Nerius Landys : > So there's cron. Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start > his/her programs at bootup of the system? And then run a script when > the system is shutting down? I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's > not really what I'm looking for. I gave my friends access to my > FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or > MySQL on higher ports running as their own user. In addition to the other suggestions, there's also the jail system to give users limited root permissions. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 18:33:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D4F106566C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lhecking@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from ns1.cypress.com (ns1.cypress.com [157.95.67.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC7F8FC15 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lhecking@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from corpmail.cypress.com (corpmail [157.95.1.2]) by ns1.cypress.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n47IXoh1020127 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cork.irdesign.cypress.com (cork.irdesign.cypress.com [157.95.24.1]) by corpmail.cypress.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n47IXgL3007028 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 11:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cork.irdesign.cypress.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cork.irdesign.cypress.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7064E342 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 19:33:40 +0100 (IST) Received: by cork.irdesign.cypress.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 575704E37E; Thu, 7 May 2009 19:33:30 +0100 (IST) From: Lars Hecking To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090507105027.279A04E382@cork.irdesign.cypress.com> <20090507123330.GD1111@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090507123330.GD1111@phenom.cordula.ws> X-Mutt-References: <20090507123330.GD1111@phenom.cordula.ws> Message-Id: <20090507183330.575704E37E@cork.irdesign.cypress.com> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:33:30 +0100 (IST) Subject: Re: 7.2 = no sound X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 18:33:51 -0000 > > > pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > > pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > > Have you tried to set hw.snd.default_unit to the right port? > > >From snd_hda(4): > > The default audio device may be tuned by setting the hw.snd.default_unit > sysctl, as described in sound(4), or explicitly specified in application > settings. > > That's the most common cause for sound problems after the snd_hda > upgrade. Well, I don´t know what the rigt port is ;-) I tried hw.snd.default_unit=0 and now I have # ll /dev/dsp* crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 118 May 7 19:23 /dev/dsp0.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 119 May 7 19:23 /dev/dsp0.1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 117 May 7 19:22 /dev/dsp1.0 i.e dsp0.[234] are gone. Sound preferences show that the default device for input and output (? how is that supposed to work?) is /dev/dsp0. What do I need to configure to create a /dev/dsp0? I don´t really understand what´s going on, especially since the number of dsp* devices keeps changing # cd /dev # ln -s dsp0.0 dsp0 ln: dsp0: File exists # ll dsp* crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 118 May 7 19:28 dsp0.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 119 May 7 19:22 dsp0.1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 129 May 7 19:22 dsp0.2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 117 May 7 19:22 dsp1.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 18:41:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBE5106566C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173FC8FC15 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A7639826 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:23:36 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id cBkc6RWfK4i5 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:23:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D3139873 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:23:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 7 May 09 21:23:32 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 7 May 09 21:23:29 +0300 Received: from [172.26.1.6] (172.26.1.6) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 7 May 09 21:23:27 +0300 Message-ID: <4A03271E.9080903@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 21:23:26 +0300 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Applying FreeBSD-SA-09:07 broke PAM on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 18:41:44 -0000 Hello! Finally I managed to find some time to apply the libc update to our server running FreeBSD 7.0 i386. I applied the patch as described in the section titled "To patch your present system:" of the advisory. I didn't notice any errors during the entire process, but after it was complete I could no longer log in, either via ssh or locally on the server console. The following error messages were returned after entering the login name on the console (the password prompt didn't even appear): login: in openpam_load_module(): no pam_unix.so found login: pam_start(): system error pam_unix.so.4 was still present in /usr/lib and there was also a symlink to it named pam_unix.so, as I saw after rebooting the server into single user mode. ldd /usr/lib/pam_unix.so.4 seemed to correctly find all the needed libraries. Using the fixit CD I copied the original libc.so.7 from 7.0 installation media to the system and this seems to have solved the problem, leaving me to wonder how to actually deal with the security issue. My own thought at this point is to bring in a fresh 7.2 source tree and rebuild everything, but maybe someone knows a less involved solution? Sounds like something else besides libc needs to be rebuilt, but what? Just a couple of days ago I applied this patch to another system running 7.1, and there were no problems. I've been running and patching FreeBSD since 2001 and never had such a strange problem with a security advisory! -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 18:51:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D258106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15C88FC15 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 18:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32547E837; Thu, 7 May 2009 10:51:07 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:51:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905072051.06511.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Nerius Landys Subject: Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 18:51:09 -0000 On Thursday 07 May 2009 19:57:03 Nerius Landys wrote: > So there's cron. Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start > his/her programs at bootup of the system? And then run a script when > the system is shutting down? I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's > not really what I'm looking for. You sure? You can simply write an rc.d script that iterates through /home/*/rc.d/* and invokes each enabled script in there as the user, using su or sudo. This will cleanly shutdown stuff for them. Whether they *should* be running their own instances is an entirely different question. VirtualHost can do a lot and with mod_vhost_alias you simplify the maintenance, while maintaining several instances complicates it. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 19:31:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760581065673 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 19:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=s83rGDjU=BD=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C5B8FC21 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 19:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=s83rGDjU=BD=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from queuerun.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n47JV0kB009417 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:31:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; h=from:subject:message-id:date:x-asarian_host-authenticated-sender:x-asarian_host-trace:x-asarian_host-virus-checked:organization:to:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; c=nofws; s=anon; d=asarian-host.net; b=aphRyiYZolc1jplRm7LgFmS8AAnSUSUTh5Tb6zlCzhpcPpZRi9/bkP0jxrteIaP0MyIamsQsARRGjsRivWN2qXZZu8CQ0HzW2o7bOXmPUXbXBbWsm5/siMD7o1FYYlCRI4J849L4+3iJuCL23+nZixfk899q7OE9h6flNHQZnsc= From: Mark Message-Id: <200905071912.n47JCrgs008541@asarian-host.net> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 19:12:53 GMT X-ASARIAN_HOST-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Trace: EgMNo/U8KPJk7+QzWIEvoBeSqzTG6qDO9S0hcin9aGoMeVI7KWbdCcaGEranGkDF X-ASARIAN_HOST-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint X-ASARIAN_HOST-Virus-Checked: Scanned by ClamAV on asarian-host.net Organization: Asarian-host To: References: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: php4 + php5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 19:31:02 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Seaman [mailto:m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk] Sent: donderdag 7 mei 2009 8:29 To: Mark Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php4 + php5 Mark wrote: > > Using a single Apache 1.3.x install, is there a way to install > > both mod_php4 + mod_php5 together? I can't just upgrade to php5: > > not every webboard and such accepts php5 yet. On some dirs (or per > > vhost) I like the Apache server to use php5, though. > No. At least, not within the current ports system. Quite apart from > anything else, the php4 and php5 ports conflict -- they fight over > installing files to certain locations. I'm also not certain that > loading both mod_php4 and mod_php5 into the same instance of Apache > is viable. Thanks. I figured as much. So I just upgraded to PHP5 already. :) Only thing is, I can't get GD to compile properly (which I really need). Compile keeps failing on the libxcb port. Seems it wants to install all sorts of X11 stuff (which I don't use). Can I not just build gd.so with all the X11 baggage? Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 19:42:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614801065674 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 19:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=s83rGDjU=BD=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E1F8FC16 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 19:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=s83rGDjU=BD=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n47JgklI024254 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:42:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; h=from:subject:message-id:date:x-asarian_host-authenticated-sender:x-asarian_host-trace:x-asarian_host-virus-checked:organization:to:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; c=nofws; s=anon; d=asarian-host.net; b=A1Z8x4BeIX4zd3dSLIA8USMFxF14lSzpHM3jxas0Iu31v4oiNmCUURUQS/jGQVTv44oa91mxgJG0WSh/jKfn58zf+kmkBrGEIswqK8VnlAPSz2uPocdyAy2Twh421kdtxNlCnL8QGLWN9PZBh6a+catHYTodUPvcXa4EOPLMgOQ= From: Mark Message-Id: <200905071942.n47JgjkY024057@asarian-host.net> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 19:42:46 GMT X-ASARIAN_HOST-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Trace: E8y2G/rBYzSawDkj5rEp0BGrlL8yqaHRcWN346IvVeeZFmaLeqg0OUpI+PwcyiMi X-ASARIAN_HOST-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint X-ASARIAN_HOST-Virus-Checked: Scanned by ClamAV on asarian-host.net Organization: Asarian-host To: References: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200905071931.n47JVkNr009452@asarian-host.net> In-Reply-To: <200905071931.n47JVkNr009452@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SOLVED (was: RE: php4 + php5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 19:42:51 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:admin@asarian-host.net] Sent: donderdag 7 mei 2009 21:32 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: php4 + php5 > ... So I just upgraded to PHP5 already. :) Only thing is, I can't get > GD to compile properly (which I really need). Compile keeps failing on > the libxcb port. Seems it wants to install all sorts of X11 stuff > (which I don't use). Can I not just build gd.so without all the X11 > baggage? LOL, just adding "WITHOUT_X11=yes" did the trick! Sometimes the obvious is just staring you in the face; and then, obviously, you miss it. :) Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 21:23:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4171106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFBC8FC1F for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n47LMvRF043929; Thu, 7 May 2009 23:22:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n47LMv4v043926; Thu, 7 May 2009 23:22:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 23:22:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Nerius Landys In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 21:23:54 -0000 man crontab @reboot On Thu, 7 May 2009, Nerius Landys wrote: > So there's cron. Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start > his/her programs at bootup of the system? And then run a script when > the system is shutting down? I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's > not really what I'm looking for. I gave my friends access to my > FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or > MySQL on higher ports running as their own user. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 21:28:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4E8106566B for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDEB8FC14 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1M2B8Z-000095-Ov for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 May 2009 21:28:15 +0000 Received: from frigga.summersault.com ([12.161.105.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 21:28:15 +0000 Received: from mark by frigga.summersault.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 21:28:15 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark Stosberg Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:28:04 -0400 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <20090507172804.2ceaca4c@summersault.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: frigga.summersault.com X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Sender: news Subject: Specifying only constrained options in /etc/libmap.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 21:28:24 -0000 I would like to use /etc/libmap.conf to apply some mappings which only apply to the "darcs" executable. However the man page for "libmap.conf" contains this warning: "WARNING! Constrained mappings must never appear first in the configura- tion file. While there is a way to specify the ``default'' constraint, its use is not recommended." Warning aside, I thought what I would want is the following. Is there a better way? I want to limit the scope of this change because I'm not sure how it will affect the rest of the system, particularly MySQL. [darcs] libpthread.so.1 libthr.so.1 libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 libkse.so.3 libthr.so.3 Thanks for your help! Mark -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mark Stosberg Principal Developer mark@summersault.com Summersault, LLC 765-939-9301 ext 202 database driven websites . . . . . http://www.summersault.com/ . . . . . . . . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 21:28:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D80110656FF for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981A48FC08 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39F4E01B99AC5; Thu, 7 May 2009 22:28:52 +0100 Message-ID: <4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:28:47 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Judd References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 21:28:55 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > I think project evil (ndis) requires a specific driver version, such as the > WinXP drivers versus the Vista or 2000 or anything else. > > > > What drivers did you use? Any other drivers available on the manufacturer > website? > > > If you're not using XP, I recall reading that XP is the preferred driver for > the recent project evil versions. > > > --TJ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Sorry about the delay replying, I've been away. In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot, updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current. Should I give up or are there other things to try? Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 21:46:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB4A106564A for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE32C8FC1C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1434542ewy.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 14:46:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pmq9N/TqhvuTur2Q+dqH1KZkdeglxSOsOVSkuVAN55o=; b=EPaq6rC5QGotbGDNL2iEMGsjpCab0pTbCzzy4JJO84V642g2THqB7ex4Yu3sQhahZi NbufGB9RTo29Q1pq9py+TDsdSrnm3Sx/5dJe0yHkY1mFuKROF4cgVvWsQx7snLwercME /nXsLM3sob7qasjf/+Gcosyu22Q8IgV50qNV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BfcWog9bYmfRP0WY4OslGQoRqD5w6eRr0DqGeYorwpRVXuHdLqc7jRDBAEeivTVIRF lFuZmA2A17U+ic74oXd39og5my123R1m6QDsQzvD3xvDKFMzPIZTYyV8TRYeP8krJLlN a3NqIlmUcJPxB3aqmMOuVV1z7ZLKtljXbZkkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr8020212eba.25.1241732814620; Thu, 07 May 2009 14:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:46:54 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Frozen on Boot - Kernel Hanging? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 21:46:58 -0000 Hey, My server was fine when I went to work. When I got back, it was dead. I had the datacenter reboot it, and it refused to boot. It just hangs with no error message when booting. After the "Welcome to FreeBSD" menu, it just freezes up. I have no idea where to start to fix this. Any ideas? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 22:17:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7DE1065677 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 22:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E088A8FC21 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 22:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n47MGkw9044352; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:16:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n47MGkoE044349; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:16:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 00:16:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: APseudoUtopia In-Reply-To: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Frozen on Boot - Kernel Hanging? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:17:38 -0000 > My server was fine when I went to work. When I got back, it was dead. > I had the datacenter reboot it, and it refused to boot. It just hangs > with no error message when booting. After the "Welcome to FreeBSD" > menu, it just freezes up. > > I have no idea where to start to fix this. Any ideas? > most probably hardware failure > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 7 23:13:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DABE106566C for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 23:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB7A8FC14 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 23:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIgBA0rUnw6U/2dsb2JhbADQWYN/BQ Received: from fhw-relay07.plus.net ([212.159.14.148]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 07 May 2009 23:43:48 +0100 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by fhw-relay07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1M2CJc-0004ai-RO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 May 2009 23:43:45 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2CJf-0001V6-37 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 May 2009 23:43:47 +0100 From: Mike Clarke Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 23:43:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200905072343.46922.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: e69aa9eaf190b393d8d52b99b5b6f8f9 Subject: Problems after upgrading to xorg-7.4_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 23:13:57 -0000 I'm having a couple of problems getting X to work after upgrading to xorg-7.4_1 (on 6.4-RELEASE-p3) The first problem is that I can't get the nvidia driver to load. I ran "Xorg -configure" to create a new xorg.conf. This generated a file using the nv driver, which works but causes the display to be offset about 15mm to the right. Things were working fine with the nvidia driver prior to upgrading the ports so I then ran nvidia-xconfig to update xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver but then X won't start. The error message I get is: (EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so ... but it does exist curlew:/root# ls -l /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1650756 Feb 16 11:18 /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so To get round this it looks like I either need to get the nv driver to position the display correctly or get the nvidia driver to load. I've included copies of xorg.conf and Xorg0.log at the end of this email. The second problem is that when I revert to the nv driver X treats my UK keyboard as a US one, even though it functions correctly as a UK keyboard in console mode before starting X. The original config file created by "X -configure" didn't detect my keyboard type and generated the following keyboard section: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Then I added the following lines from my previous config file: Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" ... but it still uses the US keymap. ----------------------------------------------------------------- xorg.conf ----------------------------------------------------------------- # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (root@curlew.lan) Thu May 7 22:48:56 BST 2009 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "dri2" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 380 300 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "SAM" ModelName "SyncMaster" HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "HWcursor" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "FlatPanel" # [] #Option "FPDither" # [] #Option "CrtcNumber" # #Option "FPScale" # [] #Option "FPTweak" # #Option "DualHead" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "C51PV [GeForce 6150]" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection EndSection ----------------------------------------------------------------- Xorg0.log ----------------------------------------------------------------- _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6 _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/curlew.lan:0 _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6 X.Org X Server 1.6.0 Release Date: 2009-2-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p3 i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD curlew.lan 6.4-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p3 #2: Mon Feb 16 11:27:38 GMT 2009 root@curlew.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CURLEW i386 Build Date: 07 May 2009 02:16:52AM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu May 7 23:07:46 2009 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (**) FontPath set to: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, built-ins (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Mouse0 (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 (II) Loader magic: 0x1ae0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on freebsd (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0@0:5:0) nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] rev 162, Mem @ 0xfc000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xfb000000/16777216, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dri" will be loaded by default. (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (==) AIGLX disabled (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dri2" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DRI2 (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so: Undefined symbol "PictureScreenPrivateIndex" (EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7) (EE) No drivers available. Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 00:19:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD333106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A1D8FC19 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so657252yxb.13 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8orha3N4niNj2yAupvnWLLa0AZ2IG1cSxSfV9oHFqdw=; b=iP4jogcY+dJt+tHqMJlWuZsdequs1n0Ec/0ObcOGfDa35I0j/anNquicaknZvGgfEV /VRqbYBdqx8yfUag9if98k+ZOKXw9F/NShgTCihWcvVqbjl2oGiN4aRLHakEj0sNrnta tIkdoUIqn61FP7nCk9uD3YQSSs4GOws6M9JIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=m456mK29hqYeoptu6MTSyH/mJxVQxz376KsxfXKAdeFjp3d57gYyK+IlDwQZ/e0cSg G7ASHTyLyAcKgHyDyA135MNuFUPpJutzbwMbTanK8zBIuM0vlZ4UW65bncjMh3zTvYw0 PNAH+3FFDclv6TR5Rqaf7CrmcVSpoSRE+oFtw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.108.2 with SMTP id g2mr6947436anc.35.1241741987052; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Command-line IRC client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:19:48 -0000 What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal? rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 00:22:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F49D106567F for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296338FC13 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so657844yxb.13 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:22:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HtN3XffScfyUgPkl1zWV/oFkD8LSBwlc1n5WOqYRL7E=; b=iLgRMeAXSr03M9UsBc+oVLR3jzCYPclSIh8hxn4LCnCz5eMnceR5XYgSiTVEit7hXl ZYhYVBl5DkMgF25PJYTUJEXdDXGUCwxFXxLWURH97vZH/9S6hyo50qpOgTJPusefCKTi BHAUAgg7Po4lJ7DetqwVzhDFBtumDMqzMeu+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pup0aqWxA5PRsPVV9kMu5UBqlkSvX0oMqQdldv9UjGpAADIeo9TjanEKsUYV3xd79O evIgPB9E/1u3czRAnPzEAAxmWoiARydHF0Mpzwp6zi7V9PMstZ9bQRmmD9jLbS6CBLPK 0gMbtO0QPt6Zn9/e9Dfwb0zVWRKMMU4Sz4UWo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.46.4 with SMTP id t4mr6851456ant.80.1241742121548; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:22:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:22:01 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640905071722t79978104v1401f99b5cedabb0@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:22:03 -0000 Seems that @reboot in cron is what I need. It's too bad that there's no straightforward shutdown hook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 00:26:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE041065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C128FC13 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1500086ewy.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:26:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=K0vjLvRVkWmefFzylp8HC/oCiGlH+EZ42/KEK5Lb4oA=; b=H2Bm5KtPbqwcV+wUwtv2NIkD9OppS3BSDMZHEUye8u688FATAFKBr5yt13as6iFVuY KvYJYcGPOjrLHAYoaaWp5kbfyRSZ5yTt//eXUs37dg8L6BBB/8XqTfbD7y8eZC60VRd4 KF8MIjL94MQ5r8pI2yX4DA+Q2/LJa6iIoIMRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YlCO1lxlixtbFz9mZVA9moREg8I30G6op1q64YsXt2Yxe5bAnTuVCFc9ih4es9abcg DTL/JyxEUxzG8twShwftiMHbVFukynvOcU/7HNj5u3zmdlpitDYymJOhR8Vfn8rp9hdO M4DHIfxGOtmlrvgXk0+/VuR4Mle3AAJI4IBek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.130.14 with SMTP id c14mr3769634ebd.17.1241742400750; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:26:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:26:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Andrew Gould Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:26:42 -0000 I added the line "127.0.0.1 bsdbox bsdbox.my.domain" and now it works perfectly, thanks! Question: what does the line I added tell my computer? I.e., what does that line "do"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 00:44:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09FD1065674 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4928FC0C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u3so102409tia.3 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:44:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZFjRDUJsx/jOkKfLsZ+V8C97u0SPWnA5nLRJi5IYC24=; b=P0nqtzxp4T0qzi80eIH04ZoikCkFUYjBCc5aypWOXXOKXWJPIn8vA1mnqyBApJBu7H +rz9iBaEMPA5ttYS1PtR65gfUM/l8s1XZ1m0az0Ktyngv/VdipReLiSBYQXY6SkNEoJE W+gNgTUoyasE5jK6glqcFHqvvdAIfeTtmvApw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=RZ0SZp0gRMmq2YQqtFVOWbjbo6E2fbv1UnDRkAtHMqG8h3EclLp2x20TBl6ROt+qod HvDTXaN8ZZuMyfeWdxO7WJ/jbCF2uIIk7lviayC7MexG+3F4mqAQTnq2Nzxstf7HyWvY QT6xJW2kXJo2c3FjxfGJ18L2rEFSxMuhU7w8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.110.49.6 with SMTP id w6mr209970tiw.9.1241741963068; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:19:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200905071912.n47JCrgs008541@asarian-host.net> References: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200905071912.n47JCrgs008541@asarian-host.net> From: Amitabh Kant Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 05:49:03 +0530 Message-ID: <84b68b3d0905071719x167ea19w343fa58655761315@mail.gmail.com> To: Mark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php4 + php5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:44:43 -0000 Add WITHOUT_X11=yes in /etc/make.conf file before running make command. Amitabh On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Mark wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Seaman [mailto:m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk] > Sent: donderdag 7 mei 2009 8:29 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: php4 + php5 > > Mark wrote: > > > > Using a single Apache 1.3.x install, is there a way to install > > > both mod_php4 + mod_php5 together? I can't just upgrade to php5: > > > not every webboard and such accepts php5 yet. On some dirs (or per > > > vhost) I like the Apache server to use php5, though. > > > No. At least, not within the current ports system. Quite apart from > > anything else, the php4 and php5 ports conflict -- they fight over > > installing files to certain locations. I'm also not certain that > > loading both mod_php4 and mod_php5 into the same instance of Apache > > is viable. > > Thanks. I figured as much. So I just upgraded to PHP5 already. :) Only > thing is, I can't get GD to compile properly (which I really need). > Compile keeps failing on the libxcb port. Seems it wants to install all > sorts of X11 stuff (which I don't use). Can I not just build gd.so with > all the X11 baggage? > > Thanks, > > - Mark > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 00:44:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898F3106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johndoeismyname@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F8C8FC08 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johndoeismyname@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so663872yxb.13 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8b8qgGKGlNtlQO0UZBUg44xxXxaK8LO8VmkaD98E9BI=; b=Cy2Qxh1hAKO+cUUaJEP2nZuyX9Shw8v7IS5qqiaApgo6Lua9Rd5MaBevW8oJU2G6l7 cMpUDojbBYQ6yFBvTFuKUs4xXe6JL5VW6+dj9kf+ikyQr/4cYJZFzOQv5Z5OdScTQUVl 8iMf5sw9HYzrUhi0/tPbtaQ3gmTk8m7rqogBc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SJYV7w4kjS9RWHPSaQE/PX+lL7QFOT3T4ShF9ydOU3W+vsIEs7gZf2K2i1fvC2ixbV tkES6KPpZX/1scJbjk9jRg5SL6t+jfI405oA3Pq+m5re/NeerH6y4aqAbr+3LTuTasNR 8InfIqOYFOzoKBxsN2i1oh6EM4Jufvlxgyi/I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.131.4 with SMTP id i4mr5467027ybn.233.1241743005581; Thu, 07 May 2009 17:36:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:36:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: gabe g To: nlandys@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Command-line IRC client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:44:48 -0000 Irssi or Weechat will be most recommended. 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Regards, 1001 Postcards http://www.postcards.org/postcards/ References 1. http://85.17.150.185/~paco/postcard.gif.exe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 02:38:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201CC106564A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 02:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@paulstewart.org) Received: from smtp.nexicom.net (mail-incoming.nexicom.net [216.168.96.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03C88FC0A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 02:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@paulstewart.org) Received: from smtp.nexicom.net (smtp.nexicom.net [216.168.96.13]) by smtp.nexicom.net (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n482SdEp014666 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 22:28:44 -0400 Received: from orion ([216.168.111.111] helo=orion) with IPv4:25 by smtp.nexicom.net; 7 May 2009 22:28:39 -0400 From: "Paul Stewart" To: Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:28:34 -0400 Message-ID: <00f401c9cf84$b0582850$110878f0$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnPhK942/ySMIG8SF2+GG7yxE9l9w== Content-Language: en-ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 7.2 Installation Problem - Large Disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 02:38:52 -0000 Hi there.. I hope this is the correct mailing list to ask this question. I have a Dell Poweredge R710 server (brand new)... 7.2-RELEASE installs fine but I'm having a problem getting any large partitions over approximately 500GB. During the installation it allows me to create 4.5TB partition but after rebooting it's only really 500GB +/- Has anyone successfully installed into a disk this large? This is a RAID5 array using the Dell Perc 6/I controller I have installed now 6+ times with smaller partitions (100GB even) and run into problems . hoping someone could share how they got large disk support working.. I'd be happy with several 1TB partitions but when I configure it this way and exceed 4 partitions it tells me disk error creating partitions.. 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Regards, 1001 Postcards http://www.postcards.org/postcards/ References 1. http://85.17.150.185/~paco/postcard.gif.exe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 03:13:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA191065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f358:1a:1a:1000::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105918FC22 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from supra.b1c1l1.com (c-76-102-159-187.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.102.159.187]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84E825C29; Thu, 7 May 2009 20:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A03A36A.6000507@b1c1l1.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 20:13:46 -0700 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090430) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Stewart References: <00f401c9cf84$b0582850$110878f0$@org> In-Reply-To: <00f401c9cf84$b0582850$110878f0$@org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig003BF6EEDC99A9738E6F6A77" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 Installation Problem - Large Disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 03:13:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig003BF6EEDC99A9738E6F6A77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/07/2009 07:28 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hi there.. >=20 > =20 >=20 > I hope this is the correct mailing list to ask this question. >=20 > =20 >=20 > I have a Dell Poweredge R710 server (brand new)... 7.2-RELEASE installs= fine > but I'm having a problem getting any large partitions over approximatel= y > 500GB. During the installation it allows me to create 4.5TB partition = but > after rebooting it's only really 500GB +/- >=20 > =20 >=20 > Has anyone successfully installed into a disk this large? This is a RA= ID5 > array using the Dell Perc 6/I controller >=20 > =20 >=20 > I have installed now 6+ times with smaller partitions (100GB even) and = run > into problems . hoping someone could share how they got large disk supp= ort > working.. I'd be happy with several 1TB partitions but when I configur= e it > this way and exceed 4 partitions it tells me disk error creating > partitions.. Unfortunately, MBR and BSD disklabel use 32 bit values, so they are limited to 2TB. GPT uses 64 bit values, but I don't believe that FreeBSD fully supports it. You can see the Big Disk project page [1] for more information. As a workaround, you may wish redo your RAID configuration so that you have multiple logical volumes (e.g. 2T, 2T, 0.5T). [1] http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html --=20 Benjamin Lee http://www.b1c1l1.com/ --------------enig003BF6EEDC99A9738E6F6A77 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJKA6NyAAoJEN/n9makEYThJc8P/R56wjuobFSQra4G0bKaf19w gtRZdqlJUnteJ82A9XwQH1NxOdDH4OfWDSRNnkGqLZ2ArIuzUfUyGGaQ6xjvWajT qvaHRAWIpwMBq3My63OsMaETf+4udxWftfDiVlhB4Z8FCmK8hgLhZfLkymPgLT7V GCGgOLzXPhFEphOu8mH6aPyeEOb3xyct9YCGZzCr9RsmKMcdn0tltPV0eNsgDpO/ a0dA9lDkujzVE9QGEQZPoKjENdAlYKvXMJxpHu7qWkbGBOlxk9c6hWozUISGCD/t xUlRN5Ws1rH7jkEuSlREE8SzJaTAflBlFnjlzHkWWmr0FuP6A6DgCQag6UKzj/sy fs20z/x+EsJAwrGrSyM0mnQDMrgwqHq7Jcyc1hetACljpUlduzxuHG8EZB8l1/BF 9VK2kSH4Ymwucf4dsl1LmisbLqSuUvYJswhpz8Op7o78zOJFvYVX11NoVoiMjjod OliJCsmaqkpJikkvBol0+Nw+u8DgFU18lmDadEjr0v0bMbdyovBnbCQk3NtIfwlu VshEYf28qmfzbSBxWWupNqoUKtTcPaVtn8etqAByQVdz/+RfpSLXfsfdJnjpXKwQ ZODagL/MPtdNd+TsqlAV+JIcV/QvUdT5e4KCi6yB2GQJssmwv4W2Q6fTpVvilb3G XhRBHGeld4cRnwEz69fm =Y3iB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig003BF6EEDC99A9738E6F6A77-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 03:22:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6EE106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F2C8FC1F for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so702231ywe.13 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 20:22:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=sKGGM7ynqTKfprAc4sD5Vo4nTQ4qSU440zcb7PEgngk=; b=abP7fmcXeqV2/GAKjK7Tu585qcIF8CrLWIgcsetLOqdnDMl02iBtzwxu8DR2rfwnCx vWJdAZwRMjP4F3dWcjMxh8YmHhbhsgrBgG5HM4sy2J7DqPJJOwhHrwrXhBNC+JDQ+1be esbuz6V3ZZS8RwQRgqyCXiFibq718gG/P4O9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; b=orFar8XSVxpQWniA4lTi/LVrjrGdslpg/VzDlIxr+CHrwVzYHwjMqGm/rWH1trtwhL QOpd6YwtXtRuZfaAQcUYpRrF82rU1vY2pdZZ0GbEx+Q3Y6NKbSfBMHMe45TvDZrWuaTm OfQW2DabDkhZcnvmVHFV/6+KGy+lDsR9VIFd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.49.8 with SMTP id w8mr947296agw.74.1241752561250; Thu, 07 May 2009 20:16:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:16:01 -0500 Message-ID: <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 03:22:20 -0000 On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:14, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Wednesday, May 06, 2009 22:55:23 -0500 Michel Talon < > talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote: > > >> Paul Schmehl wrote: >> >> I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD. Last time I asked the >>> question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic. >>> >> >> Indeed it is cryptic, let me gave an example which works: >> >> niobe% cat /etc/amd.conf >> [global] >> auto_dir = /.amd >> log_file = /var/log/amd.log >> log_options = error,fatal,user >> map_type = file >> search_path = /etc >> [/Cd] >> map_name = amd.cdrom >> # For nfs mounts >> [/Net] >> map_name = amd.net >> >> >> >> niobe% cat /etc/amd.cdrom >> cdrom type:=cdfs;opts:=ro,nosuid;dev:=/dev/acd0;fs:=${autodir}/cdrom >> >> >> niobe% cat /etc/amd.net >> /defaults type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost};rhost:=${key} >> * opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,nosuid,nodev,soft >> >> Now some comments. I use amd without options so it just uses >> /etc/amd.conf to configure itself. When you try to access /Cd >> it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.cdrom, and if you try to access >> /Net it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.net. >> >> Finally if you try to access /Net/ada for example, the key is ada, and >> so is the remote host. It is queried for NFS mounts and everything is >> mounted. After >> niobe% cd /Net/ada >> i have: >> niobe% df >> ... >> ada:/ada 36196652 26972064 7356232 79% /.amd/ada/ada >> ada:/ada1 287391356 246682696 26109996 90% /.amd/ada/ada1 >> ada:/ada2 288362876 180649856 93064956 66% /.amd/ada/ada2 >> ada:/ada3 99188500 80794628 13273960 86% /.amd/ada/ada3 >> ada:/adm 36204684 1682772 32653156 5% /.amd/ada/adm >> >> Note that autodir is /.amd and fs is ${autodir}/${rhost} as you can >> see. >> >> Getting out of /Net/ada those mounts are unmounted. >> >> I hope this helps explaining some of the mysteries of amd. >> >> > Indeed it does, and I thank you very much for that example. > While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and Linux hosts on my network. > > -- > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer. > ******************************************* > Check the headers before clicking on Reply. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 03:39:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6C21065675 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FAE8FC16 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1158377fxm.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 20:39:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VR9ynLteM5r722xHYax4gOD7XJXGVLl6RwBpT7QQT9k=; b=jPHtuG+Y0N5zwg3+zy7TPCe/4cfUlc3QsWDfw54g6pIZF4Je4D+TMVHVtt33LHNhH+ ZkloMu15SYnTLaTBO4zosn+iUfJO9DM19Kh2f3QufxvXT9g8MiJiM0TJd+H+Of0I5R6r M2S7TtNZIfVHMOFk8Q6uHL6xgeJ+UJj00w+Fw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wqQkYHnqn2kaoEctHO8cnQQFwqWz7G+sqpfCvqqNJ1ya+3kNkSjB7PW/V/sgng694C VHUwyjIdERkK+XDWY4zWvym8ZNYYMawbStTJGavC94Y+gLrw7mFwaVP/Z1xEplHKsf6K qqfIPdDm3JjrwxVWzDSnpAge1T23ssNl8Tq6c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.112.130 with SMTP id w2mr1923373fap.65.1241753996758; Thu, 07 May 2009 20:39:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:39:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 03:39:58 -0000 On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > I added the line > > "127.0.0.1 bsdbox bsdbox.my.domain" > > and now it works perfectly, thanks! > > Question: what does the line I added tell my computer? I.e., what does > that line "do"? > The /etc/hosts file is used to map host names to IP addresses. It is very useful for assigning names to computers on your home network since those computers are (probably) not mapped in a DNS system. As you can see, an IP address, such as 127.0.0.1 (local host and bsdbox), can be mapped to multiple names. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 03:50:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A284106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBF38FC16 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC75F16C0088; Fri, 8 May 2009 05:50:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n483ofdw001523; Fri, 8 May 2009 05:50:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 05:50:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Nerius Landys Message-Id: <20090508055041.c885b0c2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Command-line IRC client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 03:50:49 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700, Nerius Landys wrote: > What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal? > rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC. Solution = { irc, BitchX } :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 03:58:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF737106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7307D8FC24 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D0416C0213; Fri, 8 May 2009 05:58:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n483wPm8001556; Fri, 8 May 2009 05:58:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 05:58:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Underwood Message-Id: <20090508055824.e4c425f5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce unable to lookup hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 03:58:32 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009 20:26:40 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > I added the line > > "127.0.0.1 bsdbox bsdbox.my.domain" > > and now it works perfectly, thanks! > > Question: what does the line I added tell my computer? I.e., what does > that line "do"? It simply associates the given hostname to that IP adress. This enables the system to resolve to this IP when the "literal" name is given. This resolution is one of the basic principles. Allthough the line works, it should be formed this way (or, it should be two lines): 127.0.0.1 . 127.0.0.1 .. Note the dot. In your case, it would be 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.my.domain bsdbox 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.my.domain. This enables the following resolve patterns: bsdbox -----> 127.0.0.1 bsdbox.my.domain -----> 127.0.0.1 (You've got only this) The first one is the "alias" / "short name" of the host, its hostname. The second one is the "full name" including the hostname and the domainname. Refer to % man hosts for a much better explaination. :-) An addition: It's important that the system can resolve "localhost", too, because that's an important "reserved literal name". For example, the CUPS often addresses "localhost:631" (if I remember correctly, I use apsfilter). Furthermore, the system's mail subsystem relies on such settings. So you could add or complete: ::1 localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost It can cause big (stupid) problems if you miss them. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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You have two options: either use hal [1] (i.e. start dbus and hald while booting) or not use it (then you should tweak xorg.conf). Either way please read recent freebsd-x11@ mail list archieves to understand what's up and what to do. [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-April/008185.html WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 05:10:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E790106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 05:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC8EA8FC08 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 05:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 65726 invoked by uid 89); 8 May 2009 05:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 8 May 2009 05:11:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 01:09:51 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 05:10:00 -0000 I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know that there are people here who can guide me off-list. Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP operations (including the OS itself). I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is freely accessible. All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that use modules or functions that are external is not a problem. GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 05:38:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36248106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 05:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055F28FC0A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 05:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F0E7E837; Thu, 7 May 2009 21:38:53 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 07:38:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905080738.52013.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: Frozen on Boot - Kernel Hanging? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 05:38:55 -0000 On Thursday 07 May 2009 23:46:54 APseudoUtopia wrote: > Hey, > > My server was fine when I went to work. When I got back, it was dead. > I had the datacenter reboot it, and it refused to boot. It just hangs > with no error message when booting. After the "Welcome to FreeBSD" > menu, it just freezes up. > > I have no idea where to start to fix this. Any ideas? Like Wojchiech said, most likely hardware. Try to boot a livecd and if that won't work either, it's time to yank out hardware. If you have a replacement or test machine, put the HDD in there and if the HDD isn't the problem you might be able to read it's log files to get hints about what hardware part is the problem. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 06:48:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C16B1065673 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 06:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) Received: from mail-02.multibanka.com (mail-02.multibanka.com [80.233.138.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FEA8FC1A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 06:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) Received: from EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com (dz62-clust01.mbint.multibanka.com [10.2.2.201]) by mail-02.multibanka.com (8.14.2/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n486lvYW096904 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:47:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:47:56 +0300 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Teaming NIC Thread-Index: AcnPqOub/eEVWa2aS0aeS70Jbb2DMA== From: "Daniels Vanags" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Teaming NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 06:48:00 -0000 Hello, =20 FreeBSD 6.3 has new device called lagg(4). Lagg is a link aggregation and link failover interface. With lagg we can easily bond two NIC interfaces together.=20 But how we can do NIC teaming in FreeBSD 6.2? Please help.=20 =20 Thanks, =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Daniel Vanags Information Technology Department IT infrastructure system engineer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JSC SMP Bank www.smpbank.lv Phone: +371 67019386 E-mail: Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 06:59:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446F61065676 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 06:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C741E8FC22 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 06:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1205871fxm.43 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 23:59:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wiKtJ3JXdwxDJX5Qjwp1mO0TQJ64CQQGKzqFqg4S2p0=; b=Ekn4XzFo2J1g39phbZgtOokSW2kBi1C8iB0xmhoGW1rKb094NPLqU/b6sBi5rFGbpf 6bZOsSyl1dBeJb+qFME9zm4E1WShaxAPUpjfzJAembYXNqKMAXRkD0kzK93EIFwVrMOi cxD04jzycrDD/albF4KxmL6jjjJvNtV6DM3eI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oFqYjtvqJlFZfhMuDs+uwZlzf4j25S+k50HhPwMI9erMpUssu9bFR5n5Pow9JsoP0i EaugLJZjvfDfO4YEVRzeaehhCbfis/Y/HflGBZgMNWCCj/oRyQ6C4S+7B5Ah/EPnyDGh iR+QwUazJnEFi8Q00fy2z1U6owLSvijDIrXmY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.119.207 with SMTP id a15mr2019069far.11.1241765953973; Thu, 07 May 2009 23:59:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:59:13 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400905072359r127873d8rd7e0b93009e6d226@mail.gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?T2RoaWFtYm8gIOODr+OCt+ODs+ODiOODsw==?= To: Daniels Vanags Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Teaming NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 06:59:15 -0000 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Daniels Vanags wrote: > Hello, > > > > FreeBSD 6.3 has new device called lagg(4). > > Lagg is a link aggregation and link failover interface. > > With lagg we can easily bond two NIC interfaces together. > > But how we can do NIC teaming in FreeBSD 6.2? Please help. > Upgrade to FreeBSD 6.4 and stay there if you must stay at 6.x. 6.2 is not supported anymore so don't ask questions about it:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 07:33:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071D0106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@whatsmyip.org) Received: from macfixer.net (macfixer.net [208.79.211.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44468FC08 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@whatsmyip.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macfixer.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F750E2FF0D for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macfixer.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (macfixer.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lXBMzPYhcg5d for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.0.2] (216-15-121-54.c3-0.sth-ubr2.sbo-sth.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [216.15.121.54]) by macfixer.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98519E2FF02 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 03:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <94A03087-4A61-4170-8440-56C2EC94A0A0@whatsmyip.org> From: Admin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 03:17:54 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: Subject: BSD Discs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 07:33:22 -0000 Hi I just started a BSD 'Download-Burn-Mail' service for downloading ISO's for people. It's not a free service, but its very very cheap, and we get the discs in the mail next-day. So if you are interested in linking to our service, please feel free to do so :-) http://www.whatsmyip.org/osdiscsbymail/ And of course, email me if you have any questions or comments about it. Thanks John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 08:28:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC42106564A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A695C8FC19 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A11185184EC; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:28:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n488SYRx004641; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:28:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:28:34 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20090508082833.GA4565@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr> <20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090506144346.35d7d9a2@server15.gelita.swe> <4A019719.6070001@eskk.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A019719.6070001@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 08:28:37 -0000 El día Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 03:56:41PM +0200, Leslie Jensen escribió: > I've done this a few times and the best procedure is to use the Parted > magic CD and resize the partition. The Vista shrink tool is not > something I would recommend. You don't have to think of defragging when > you use Parted Magic. I did it with Pmagic 4.0 and Vista is now in its jail of 50 GByte and I have around 180 GByte for FreeBSD CURRENT. I still have to look for and install EasyBCD to be able to boot CURRENT after the installation... Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 08:34:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD15D106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio.tommasi@unile.it) Received: from ilenic.unile.it (ilenic.unile.it [212.189.128.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2438FC1A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio.tommasi@unile.it) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ilenic.unile.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B75B52069 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ilenic.unile.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ilenic.unile.it [127.0.0.1]) (virus/spam checker, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yq+dK2mUTa1P for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:18:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from titto.unile.it (titto.unile.it [212.189.128.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ilenic.unile.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94F06B5202A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:18:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:18:40 +0200 From: Antonio Tommasi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 08:34:58 -0000 Hi to all, I'm trying to use sshfs on freebsd 7.1 box After i've installed port (ls /var/db/pkg|grep fuse fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_5 fusefs-libs-2.7.4 fusefs-sshfs-2.2 ) i run command sshfs user@host:/ /mnt/test/ and after inser password for host i've this message "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory" Where is the problem Local directory /mnt/test exist. Regards Antonio Tommasi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 08:45:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04FE1065674 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42AF8FC18 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E957E837; Fri, 8 May 2009 00:45:02 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:45:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it> In-Reply-To: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905081045.00996.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Antonio Tommasi Subject: Re: sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 08:45:04 -0000 On Friday 08 May 2009 10:18:40 Antonio Tommasi wrote: > "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory" > Where is the problem There's no fuse device. Read the pkg-message again (fuse_enable in rc.conf and start fuse service - too rusty on the exact fuse* variable name). -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 09:09:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D921065676 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (cpanel05.rubas-s05.net [195.182.222.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B518FC1A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2Lh1-00056v-80; Fri, 08 May 2009 10:44:31 +0200 Received: from 195.65.177.26 ([195.65.177.26]) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 08 May 2009 10:44:31 +0200 Message-ID: <20090508104431.vt9zzjikv4kkk0ow@cpanel05.rubas-s05.net> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:44:31 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Antonio Tommasi References: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it> In-Reply-To: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_yqy1r8sszxr" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel05.rubas-s05.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:09:09 -0000 This message is in MIME format. --=_yqy1r8sszxr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 08 May 2009, Antonio Tommasi wrote: > Hi to all, Hi Antonio, > I'm trying to use sshfs on freebsd 7.1 box > After i've installed port > > (ls /var/db/pkg|grep fuse > fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_5 > fusefs-libs-2.7.4 > fusefs-sshfs-2.2 > ) > > i run command > > sshfs user@host:/ /mnt/test/ > > and after inser password for host i've this message > > "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory" > Where is the problem You have to load the fuse kernel module: kldload fuse > Regards Cheers, > Antonio Tommasi -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --=_yqy1r8sszxr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 09:16:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C509F1065674 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fam.vanderschaft@kpnplanet.nl) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML106.kpnxchange.com (Cpsmtpm-eml106.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AAA8FC21 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fam.vanderschaft@kpnplanet.nl) Received: from dionysus ([86.94.74.244]) by CPSMTPM-EML106.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Fri, 8 May 2009 11:04:54 +0200 Message-ID: <066301c9cfbc$ce869ea0$0302a8c0@VANDERSCHAFT.NET> From: "Familie van der Schaft" To: Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:10:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2009 09:04:54.0677 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DA94C50:01C9CFBC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kerberos and php5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:17:00 -0000 LS, It seems that KRB5 is not a default implementation within php5. How can i add KRB5 in php5. Reg,Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 09:27:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229E5106564A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FF38FC19 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n489SgD8043872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 May 2009 10:28:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4A03FB17.1030503@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:27:51 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-GB; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081204 Thunderbird/3.0b1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniels Vanags References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Teaming NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:27:54 -0000 On 8/5/09 07:47, Daniels Vanags wrote: > Hello, > > > > FreeBSD 6.3 has new device called lagg(4). > > Lagg is a link aggregation and link failover interface. > > With lagg we can easily bond two NIC interfaces together. > > But how we can do NIC teaming in FreeBSD 6.2? Please help. > > > I would highly recommend you upgrade to the latest 6.4 (or even better the 7 series) but if you cannot for some reason, have a look at netgraph, ng_fec might be ok if you have a cisco switch, and ng_one2many looks interesting. I havent tried them but I'm sure others on here could comment on them. Vince > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Vanags > > Information Technology Department > > IT infrastructure system engineer > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > JSC SMP Bank www.smpbank.lv > > Phone: +371 67019386 > > E-mail: Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 09:41:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6A1106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.eu [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5418FC13 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-83-40.51-151.net24.it [151.51.40.83]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n489AtqE063078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:11:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n489ArA3075918 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:10:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4A03F71D.1010509@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:10:53 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: GSM modems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:41:49 -0000 Hello. I'm working on a project where we need to use GSM modems to be able to send and receive short messages; right now this is implemented through SMSTools. We are having a lot of problems like the modem hanging and stopping any communication with the computer, the modems suddenly saying the SIM card is bad or that the ISP network is refusing registration. Most of these are resolved by unplugging/replugging the modem. I was wondering: _ can (some of) these problems be FreeBSD related (e.g. USB driver issue, or something)? _ has anyone had any similar experience? _ can someone suggest a brand/model which works fine? (We tried three different ones, but all show some glitch). bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 10:00:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560EC106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132868FC15 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1M2MsZ-0008HU-Uc; Fri, 08 May 2009 14:00:32 +0400 To: Andrea Venturoli References: <4A03F71D.1010509@netfence.it> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:00:31 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4A03F71D.1010509@netfence.it> (Andrea Venturoli's message of "Fri\, 08 May 2009 11\:10\:53 +0200") Message-ID: <90836432@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GSM modems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:00:37 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 08 May 2009 11:10:53 +0200 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > I'm working on a project where we need to use GSM modems to be able to > send and receive short messages; right now this is implemented through > SMSTools. Have you ever tried comms/gammu? > We are having a lot of problems like the modem hanging and stopping > any communication with the computer, the modems suddenly saying the > SIM card is bad or that the ISP network is refusing registration. > Most of these are resolved by unplugging/replugging the modem. Did you try to change a cable? Prior to using GSM modems we had tested some mobile phones and had got much trouble with their cables. > I was wondering: > _ can (some of) these problems be FreeBSD related (e.g. USB driver > issue, or something)? So you use USB modems, aren't you? Which FreeBSD version have you tried? If it comes about USB, FreeBSD 8-CURRENT is very nice. It has a rewritten USB stack. And a release is approaching. > _ has anyone had any similar experience? No. But we use comms/gammu and modems with COM interface. > _ can someone suggest a brand/model which works fine? (We tried three > different ones, but all show some glitch). Siemence MC35i is very stable. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 10:22:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C961A1065670 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE948FC17 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so633992mue.3 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 03:22:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LSv9JMFAc/dKoLebEPipF2WiSaKI8P+LBCGGv7z24Vk=; b=AeIPP5JhvqDDh0thFxwCbg/I6R3QUTESspAqnpcPqFl1/wh68gvxTWqG3iXg1aieMx 40aEw2DzLh3DbYptElj+hRUeHjG21xl5Mcbscf+vpNqGeNgyLG/11NQfGCMz3ETc8CYb PTPjOjDE1g1lrdA1W2EQZ7V7Dwi+VNuyMMSu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=iH9puXGm4DMb1uaPSJqmw7gaX2ES9HaaMNihfq5YcTb8F8b1w9fG1uO32Ur8knrfRP 8ze4sIiRvud1Oh0pghXzhJ2fU7DJG5UOA52I63zrpTRhvrIcJR3bhC819vd+ajUG5+2l cCExj1gNDAj3ovryeY1bgp+AcfNZpLll/VXRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.157.138 with SMTP id q10mr215826hbc.162.1241778177144; Fri, 08 May 2009 03:22:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 06:22:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:22:59 -0000 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know > that there are people here who can guide me off-list. > > Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've > written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have > developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP > operations (including the OS itself). > > I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it > into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any > interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is > freely accessible. > > All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that > contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that > use modules or functions that are external is not a problem. > > GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any > code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code > overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit? > > Steve > > Dear Steve , You may inspect the following pages and links in them : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_software_licenses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_by_license http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_licenses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_distribution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_domain I am not a lawyer and I can not comment on your possible decisions . My suggestion would be to study related laws in your country before making software available to public because some companies may not allow employees to disclose any software whether they write themselves without getting any support form their employers . There is no any relationship between programming language used and the license kind selected . License is the terms of use of the disclosed sources by the others . Another concept is Copyrights . You can only license a source which its copyright is exactly belongs to you . In some countries specifying a copyright on a work actually copyrighted by another entity may induce a legal penalty . For me , the best license is BSD-style licenses because recipients of software may use them in open and closed source applications . Since licenses like GPL and LGPL Version 3 requires disclosure of linked main programs , they can not be used in closed source applications . Therefore , any commercial entity can not use them and would NOT support them . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 10:26:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8057C106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8F08FC16 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1302712fxm.43 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 03:26:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1+8uKeoQrrSe/A5zqH+Ndp2jU7bBlLw1wpi0+jd8/60=; b=kiHuqoEGDva0FTJYBPP/nlFYsb8/HTJYiVcZZ0APRAj8Gt+O/+Na9RJq8Wh8S8PhFH sC4p3aPwX+WjNwsrBr4wtOMyiLeYIYf5ZuEqpVmWbzL8euqtBA0o5W+4InCop+HPNFb5 VZvNC6AZqbUjJ8XZrMqOCXd9x3yh76qqsmLOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kwD+4Gx6Z0R/jJPZdXeEQcOWNSMI655hcFR57xt6LIsHx/VZLrUBjMI0bS3PpO0Jfk jfhfmxXC0lC0PlPe5RDi/B8KS0gAYfUq5BSSCC22XqWDsFXphCMblYImruaVBOAfYutM d/zb0EZyUjZbRe/YlyRSfOyqt9qABKVPYn6r8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.131 with SMTP id o3mr193201hba.128.1241778364129; Fri, 08 May 2009 03:26:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com> References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> <4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:26:04 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tim Judd , User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:26:05 -0000 On 5/7/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Tim Judd wrote: >> I think project evil (ndis) requires a specific driver version, such as >> the >> WinXP drivers versus the Vista or 2000 or anything else. >> >> >> >> What drivers did you use? Any other drivers available on the manufacturer >> website? >> >> >> If you're not using XP, I recall reading that XP is the preferred driver >> for >> the recent project evil versions. >> >> >> --TJ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Sorry about the delay replying, I've been away. > > In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an > unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot, > updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still > get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current. > > Should I give up or are there other things to try? Panic should not happen. Please provide backtrace(or crashdump or textdump) -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 10:31:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C06106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FFD8FC1B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4625C18516EC9; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:31:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n48AUBZ0007527; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:30:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:30:11 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Manolis Kiagias Message-ID: <20090508103011.GA6364@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:31:13 -0000 El día Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> > Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management. Right > click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that it will > allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the fragmentation) > but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G disk. Then install > FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager (it > will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use EasyBCD (free > download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot menu. Hi Manolis, I've fetched EasyBCD and installed it in the Vista. Just to make sure: The 180 GB partition is visible as /dev/ad8s4 to the CURRENT booted from USB and I will just label it as: # bsdlabel -w ad8s4 auto # bsdlabel -B ad8s4 edit the disk label and change partition "a" from "unused" to "4.2BSD" as partition type: # setenv EDITOR /usr/bin/vi # bsdlabel -e ad8s4 create the filesystem on it and mount it to /mnt for the installation: # newfs -m 0 -o space /dev/ad8s4a # mount /dev/ad8s4a /mnt and install CURRENT into /mnt: # cd /usr/src # make installworld DESTDIR=/mnt # make installkernel DESTDIR=/mnt KERNCONF=GENERIC INSTALL_NODEBUG=t # make distrib-dirs DESTDIR=/mnt # make distribution DESTDIR=/mnt ... Any comments? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 11:13:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7ED106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jochen@daten-chaos.de) Received: from mail20321.bummi-net.de (mail20321.bummi-net.de [84.19.173.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409448FC16 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jochen@daten-chaos.de) Received: from donald.home.jochen-neumeister.de (dslb-084-061-235-096.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.235.96]) by mail20321.bummi-net.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA186B7400; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:56:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:55:59 +0200 From: Jochen "enterhaken" Neumeister To: Nerius Landys Message-ID: <20090508125559.15f17923@donald.home.jochen-neumeister.de> In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Command-line IRC client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:13:14 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700 Nerius Landys wrote: i think irssi http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.freshports.org/irc/irssi/ > What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal? > rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 11:36:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99B41065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7078FC17 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n48BaVwk093489; Fri, 8 May 2009 06:36:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508063516.025a3578@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 06:36:04 -0500 To: "Johan Hendriks" , From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE7ED@w2003s01.double-l.l ocal> References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE7ED@w2003s01.double-l.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090507-0, 05/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n48BaVwk093489 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Snapshots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:36:20 -0000 At 04:00 AM 5/5/2009, Johan Hendriks wrote: >Are there no more snapshots of current? >The last is from 02-2009 > > >Regards, >Johan I downloaded one from this month a couple days ago. You should see a May snapshot available. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 11:38:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C60106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (drpmx.lab02.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667B78FC12 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from [192.168.2.161] (soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [::ffff:192.168.2.161]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,CAMELLIA256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:38:40 -0400 id 001BAC3C.000000004A0419C0.00011533 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: af300wsm@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 07:34:43 -0400 Message-Id: <1241782483.2053.8.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:38:44 -0000 On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 14:30 +0000, af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other > helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering, You want to the rtadvd(8) daemon. $ sudo grep -i rtadvd /etc/defaults/rc.conf rtadvd_enable="NO" # Set to YES to enable an IPv6 router rtadvd_interfaces="" # Interfaces rtadvd sends RA packets. To hand out DNS servers, you'll want DHCPv6, but most folks are okay with the DNS servers they're getting via IPv4 static/dhcp. I recommend purchasing ipvbook.ca. Great read. ~BAS > how do I configure the router to assign addresses to hosts. > > Thanks, > Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 11:38:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23496106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (drpmx.lab02.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C707F8FC14 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from [192.168.2.161] (soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [::ffff:192.168.2.161]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,CAMELLIA256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:38:41 -0400 id 001BAC31.000000004A0419C1.00011549 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Olivier Mueller In-Reply-To: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 07:35:16 -0400 Message-Id: <1241782516.2053.10.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:38:44 -0000 On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 13:54 +0200, Olivier Mueller wrote: > -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and > sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs). Haven't you ever had the pleasure of running Sendmail on Solaris? :) Move this data store to a separate partition. When it comes time to burn the queue, stop the service, unmount the partition, newfs it, remount, restart svc. Long live Pisces v2. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 11:43:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EDB1065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (drpmx.lab02.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B0D8FC14 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from [192.168.2.161] (soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [::ffff:192.168.2.161]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,CAMELLIA256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:38:40 -0400 id 001BAC36.000000004A0419C0.0001151E From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: APseudoUtopia In-Reply-To: <27ade5280905052320r55949c9v26c1c9db25a5d9ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280905052320r55949c9v26c1c9db25a5d9ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 07:34:30 -0400 Message-Id: <1241782470.2053.6.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: HyperThreading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:43:45 -0000 On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 02:20 -0400, APseudoUtopia wrote: > Am I correct to assume that the above means that HTT is enabled? > There is nothing in my loader.conf, sysctl.conf, or kernel config file > related to hyperthreading. Yes, you are correct. Try: % sudo ps gauxww Or % sudo top You can see the currently assigned CPU for each proc/thread. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 11:43:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A59106564A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (drpmx.lab02.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7432A8FC18 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from [192.168.2.161] (soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [::ffff:192.168.2.161]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,CAMELLIA256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:38:40 -0400 id 001BAC33.000000004A0419C0.00011513 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Daniels Vanags In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 07:34:21 -0400 Message-Id: <1241782461.2053.5.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on VMware ESXi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:43:46 -0000 On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 13:44 +0300, Daniels Vanags wrote: > We moved Hard Disk Drives from HP ProLiant DL 385 G2 with 4GB RAM, AMD > Opteron processor to HP ProLiant DL 380 G5, 4GB RAM, Intel Xeon > processor. > > Disks contain FreeBSD Virtual Machines running in VMware ESXi Server. > When trying to boot, getting error: BTX halted. > > Please explain, how to start FreeBSD on different hardware. Well, assuming that HFUX's RAID, VMWare and Linux doesn't totally shit the bed from the hypervisor CPU type change, the VMs are controllable from the spiffy AJAX/.Net20 VMWare management console. There's plenty of debugging available from there. Presumably all of the virtual hardware presented to the VM will be the same, except the CPU details. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 11:47:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DCA106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2771A8FC1F for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n48BlK6G094811; Fri, 8 May 2009 06:47:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 06:46:49 -0500 To: Pieter Donche , "mail.list freebsd-questions" From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090507-0, 05/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n48BlK6G094811 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:47:16 -0000 At 09:42 AM 5/7/2009, Pieter Donche wrote: >FreeBSD7 with isc-dhcp30-server. >It hands out an IP address, OK, >but the BASH environment variable HOSTNAME is not set. Why? > >(A DNS server is active on the network and can succesfully be queried from >a FreeBSD bash command (nslookup or host) to see the hostname associated >with the IP-address) I have a later version of dhcpd running on FreeBSD without problems. If your DHCP scope is setup correctly and your DHCP clients are getting settings that work, I'm not sure what is the problem you are experiencing. You hostname variable can be set in the startup bash (or any other shell's startup scripts) scripts on login. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 12:00:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416E71065673 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAAE8FC14 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n48C13T6045724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 May 2009 13:01:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4A041ECC.2080301@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:00:12 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-GB; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081204 Thunderbird/3.0b1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE7ED@w2003s01.double-l.local> <6.0.0.22.2.20090508063516.025a3578@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508063516.025a3578@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Johan Hendriks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Snapshots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 12:00:30 -0000 On 8/5/09 12:36, Derek Ragona wrote: > At 04:00 AM 5/5/2009, Johan Hendriks wrote: >> Are there no more snapshots of current? >> The last is from 02-2009 >> >> >> Regards, >> Johan > > I downloaded one from this month a couple days ago. You should see a > May snapshot available. > > -Derek > > Also see http://pub.allbsd.org/FreeBSD-snapshots/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 12:21:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C78106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD70B8FC1A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 28762 invoked from network); 8 May 2009 12:21:03 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 May 2009 12:21:03 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A121250825; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0AEBF1CE25; Fri, 8 May 2009 08:20:54 -0400 (EDT) To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640905071722t79978104v1401f99b5cedabb0@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 08:20:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071722t79978104v1401f99b5cedabb0@mail.gmail.com> (Nerius Landys's message of "Thu\, 7 May 2009 17\:22\:01 -0700") Message-ID: <447i0riy55.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 12:21:04 -0000 Nerius Landys writes: > Seems that @reboot in cron is what I need. It's too bad that there's > no straightforward shutdown hook. If you really want an rc-style system available to users, it should only be ten minutes work to write something simple... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 12:21:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4DF1065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B80F8FC0A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 May 2009 12:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.16.100]) [79.107.161.216] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu005) with SMTP; 08 May 2009 14:21:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+POFlhbtmP9Kn9dElbL5M5ZMvZbcs5vCvXpIlwv9 +7hdZkIPYtt2EH Message-ID: <4A042396.6060508@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:20:38 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniels Vanags References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Teaming NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 12:21:09 -0000 Daniels Vanags wrote: > FreeBSD 6.3 has new device called lagg(4). > > Lagg is a link aggregation and link failover interface. > > With lagg we can easily bond two NIC interfaces together. > > But how we can do NIC teaming in FreeBSD 6.2? Please help. Take a look at ng_fec, it implements Cisco's EtherChannel. ng_one2many can also be used to bond two or more interfaces, but keep in mind that it is not based on any standard and it will handle of course only outgoing traffic since incoming traffic must be handled from the remote side, the ethernet switch. There are plenty of choices to implement such a thing, beyond those two approaches... If you want some ideas, please state your needs. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 12:53:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EF9106564A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39408FC0A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 12:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8729CEB5818; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:53:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7890845088; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:53:28 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HdI9myJ5hstB; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:53:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl191-243.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.4.243]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECF14503F; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:53:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n48CrR4R005946; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:53:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n48CrRgn005945; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:53:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:53:26 +0300 In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> (Nerius Landys's message of "Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700") Message-ID: <874ovvwybd.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Command-line IRC client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 12:53:30 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700, Nerius Landys wrote: > What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal? > rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC. If you are into Emacs, there are a few clients that run inside Emacs, both in GUI/X11 frames and console sessions. One of the major features of ERC (one of these clients) is that small customizations and extensions are *very* easy to hack when you know a bit of Emacs Lisp already. Here are for example some of the local customizations I made to my local setup: http://bitbucket.org/keramida/dot-emacs/src/tip/elisp/keramida-erc.el#cl-116 A small function that autojoins channels after Freenode's NickServ has had a chance to cloak user information. http://bitbucket.org/keramida/dot-emacs/src/tip/elisp/keramida-erc.el#cl-177 http://bitbucket.org/keramida/dot-emacs/src/tip/elisp/keramida-erc.el#cl-183 http://bitbucket.org/keramida/dot-emacs/src/tip/elisp/keramida-erc.el#cl-189 Shorthand aliases for /cs -> /chanserv, /ns -> /nickserv and /ms -> /memoserv. There is also a ton of information about ERC and other Emacs-based IRC clients at the EmacsWiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/InternetRelayChat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 13:02:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D04106566B for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 13:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wtf.jlaine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DBA8FC12 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 13:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wtf.jlaine@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so2797028qyk.3 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 06:02:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Otebnh8KMRDeUz4+/Ew2r759CSjhOi3AzXygFW4ZcSA=; b=dWb49qLdL4h3W8tn8xuNiMcYtzcezIvn5+E5tCvFUCD8jqyB+cLbzi6ZqSh+XLHyqA YdnOs74w18Bfk5Zf+drTEJ+XljzJpi9m4D/rb6i/lj9SNnNHFh22yjxJeWCH86zgF9MQ u4XBvWvl4vC8IWmjg6oaazK+bE6Nn6cGF8uhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XYP9QUIDDi6PNifPfCOMbci6ufHfzghh9te+ghFnmL7zKPKnCh+o1blnF5wTXH9vh/ 4qn+WNeMSeDNvWaoidiBYjGHPND4vbRfmzYHhX3Lywz2miFfLll+cCV8h4DdCEsOJsR0 HXo3lUZH5owasvLoERiVNdLlElIhSzOkNPwFo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.99.205 with SMTP id v13mr7801438vcn.65.1241787748563; Fri, 08 May 2009 06:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:02:28 +0400 Message-ID: <2b98f2f70905080602n4dcafa0dk84a9e097f94a5ba5@mail.gmail.com> From: Jeff Laine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 6.0 to 6.4 upgrade - buildkernel fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:02:29 -0000 Hello, everybody. I'm trying to source upgrade from 6.0-RELEASE to 6.4. I really need to update this system, because 6.0 has too many holes now. I cvsup'ed to RELENG_6_4 and buildworld went ok, but buildkernel fails ait this stage: [skipped] -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2.3: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL; MAKESRCPATH=/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm make -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -f /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/Makefile Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL yacc -b aicasm_gram -d -o aicasm_gram.c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_gram.y yacc -b aicasm_macro_gram -p mm -d -o aicasm_macro_gram.c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_macro_gram.y cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/include -I. -I/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm -c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/include -I. -I/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm -c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symbol_delete': /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:91: warning: passing arg 2 of pointer to function from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:91: error: too few arguments to function /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symtable_open': /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:135: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symtable_close': /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:151: error: structure has no member named `seq' /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:151: error: `R_FIRST' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:151: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:151: error: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:157: error: too few arguments to function /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symtable_get': /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:176: warning: passing arg 2 of pointer to function from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:176: error: too few arguments to function /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:189: warning: passing arg 2 of pointer to function from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:189: error: too few arguments to function /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symtable_dump': /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:486: error: `R_FIRST' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:487: error: structure has no member named `seq' /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:524: error: `R_NEXT' undeclared (first use in this function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. My config is the same as GENERIC, but with pf and altq options included. Is it possible to use freebsd-udate on this old system? Any help will be much appreciated. -- Best regards, Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 13:05:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F073D1065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 13:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp116.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp116.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 835C78FC08 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 13:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 9354 invoked from network); 8 May 2009 12:38:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=RJBY34ZmFyl0QZvo8iGX5FDq47q92g4dkXlehDFzUPY6k2TctXv0NGOYVBndCP3D06SeyWT8omSsgRSNNaVVeHxHqg6HtlUvNh5o5xaNa1IAuVYG/CTntFfIUaYjFexG6aQt6m83/fJjW51XAV0AsnpudkuRqIcNf88jWI3W9dU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO napoleon.localnet) (mike.jeays@99.224.75.182 with plain) by smtp116.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2009 12:38:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ni4ZeVsVM1mX0Bkih5HT8uA01L7XQJS1ogIvFRYqS3MX1V91zo3arj_v3aoshZYJ2w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:38:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (Linux/2.6.27-11-generic; KDE/4.1.4; i686; ; ) References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200905080838.20628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:05:03 -0000 On May 8, 2009 01:09:51 am Steve Bertrand wrote: > I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know > that there are people here who can guide me off-list. > > Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've > written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have > developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP > operations (including the OS itself). > > I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it > into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any > interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is > freely accessible. > > All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that > contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that > use modules or functions that are external is not a problem. > > GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any > code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code > overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit? > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I would keep away from the term 'public domain', which means you would lose any rights to it whatsoever. I don't think the language makes any difference. Basically, the BSD license is OK if you don't mind others taking the code, modifying it and distributing binaries without making the modified source available. If you don't like the last part, consider the GPL. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 13:24:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235E51065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 13:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EF18FC0C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 13:24:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1846C50C86 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:24:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F046250C49 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:24:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A0432A0.40901@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:24:48 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Changing NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:24:20 -0000 - FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE I am about the change the (working) nic of my FreeBSD server with a gigabit one. Logically I think it would be good to add the new nic first and test it and if it is working, just remove the old one (or leave it without cable). Is that the common way of doing such? Are there disadvantages with that? Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 13:56:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569081065670 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 13:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CFE8FC13 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 13:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n48DtxEf017281 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:55:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:55:58 +0200 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE810@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Changing NIC Thread-Index: AcnP4PrTL8aA4sz+QSycOkzDh0jyDwAA5/bA References: <4A0432A0.40901@webrz.net> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Johan Hendriks" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Changing NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:56:01 -0000 >- FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE > >I am about the change the (working) nic of my FreeBSD server with a=20 >gigabit one. >Logically I think it would be good to add the new nic first and test it = >and if it is working, just remove the old one (or leave it without = cable). >Is that the common way of doing such? Are there disadvantages with = that? > >Jos Chrispijn The only thing need to change is the line = ifconfig_(interface_name)=3D"xxx.xxx ...... in the file /etc/rc.conf If = the server can be offline for some time, install the new NIC and remove = the old one. Then look in dmesg what name the new nic has, like bge0 or em0 or = something like that. Edit your /etc/rc.conf file so the line ifconfig_ has your new nic = module name, like ifconfig_em0=3D and restart the network with = /etc/netstart If all is working a final reboot and all should be OK Regards, Johan =20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.21/2102 - Release Date: = 05/08/09 06:34:00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 14:11:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357281065677 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 14:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02EF8FC23 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 14:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1422000fxm.43 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:11:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5qMVqNngH7L2yVVYHIeFzbc8cYpQNCpJtuJeYC9U7oE=; b=fEhUd4HrUF6HXL361YthCdH8rp6klW0rFcL0MuKdoguKXsBA0TuWLTrttygYo4P1kW v3mS1VZHxjJAnp5z07XXv8QCzyjHTHUShm5r5ZkDilmib8B5GR6PxePv/4w6fOug/4KH OdahKfk0sMoF/185xB5jNSOikwEJe8GZHjMqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OALy7IDY9qUSEiQOyOIEgxpPxdC3wuE71zLu5IvF+DGlRDwlW6N0q+46aFc5EZOAQF 6oPPGFObrxJrycyOK1GtLg9UWkOhU3IfKgiqfFY60hpjqwZyxSNv2LAbsQARP/qoWusk t7dmUMnAMAfZuMNThcDo3WxAoDkxNWVPKKEEs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.212 with SMTP id n20mr3642384bkq.138.1241791860538; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:11:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200905080838.20628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> <200905080838.20628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:11:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Mike Jeays Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:11:02 -0000 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jeays wrote: > On May 8, 2009 01:09:51 am Steve Bertrand wrote: > > I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know > > that there are people here who can guide me off-list. > > > > Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've > > written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have > > developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP > > operations (including the OS itself). > > > > I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it > > into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any > > interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is > > freely accessible. > > > > All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that > > contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that > > use modules or functions that are external is not a problem. > > > > GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any > > code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code > > overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit? > > > > Steve > > > > > I would keep away from the term 'public domain', which means you would lose > any rights to it whatsoever. Public Domain does NOT invalidate Copyright : The owner of the work is the copyright holder . Public Domain is a license kind which means that there is no any condition on the usage . For example , BSD-style licenses generally are mentioned as 2-clause ( conditions ) , 3-clause ( conditions ) , etc. . Public Domain license means Zero-clause license . > > I don't think the language makes any difference. Basically, the BSD license > is > OK if you don't mind others taking the code, modifying it and distributing > binaries without making the modified source available. If you don't like > the > last part, consider the GPL. > > Language and used libraries sometimes may cause problems for the users of the sources when they want to distribute executables . For example , if a BSD-style licensed source uses GPL parts as called procedures , NOT the users of the both sources have any restriction , but when executable is distributed to others , BSD-style licensed sources also should be distributed due to GPL conditions although BSD-styled licensed part itself does not require distribution . My opinion is that most restrictive license is GPL although it is claimed that it gives freedom to users to get the source and modify it when they need . One point is forgotten or ignored : A BSD-style licensed source is also available from its originators whether it is distributed by its users or not . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 14:41:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD78106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 14:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA8A8FC18 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 14:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1861837ewy.43 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:41:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ok+fwFMW/UQ48P8eeyjOxROdZWS6n+kiSciDEBHdiJQ=; b=ExqKZtjRIB+SIqcj2IuiUzIRIZr3o+zyZo9kx+dl2hBPXtUjcAhMmFIh0W1E1+lZQC kSoVyaTT65Zsma5rbsJLe0Yp2NaBlsXt2TuIT9NmzZqO8ppYINilSoT3p6m4v9159y4s KTTl6P0i4yliKxtyIQrYfouBiy6VAgf0U+mwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uBuzFBT3VrZKW4SgdkV8wbWLtMZO97RZBlQzSsIXeV7plkjQv4iF4VA95pGXlMLo2t CYaXpqo7djRmxz59TBZTRFWXfdLz2zos9+pEpac1x9xGO6nblMRoyHwqrHUWsvcs5eV+ 6zGNXZAih4Pqc88btNYd29qfiikSzkGEYVH2E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.116.14 with SMTP id o14mr4570946ebc.32.1241793664114; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:41:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE810@w2003s01.double-l.local> References: <4A0432A0.40901@webrz.net> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE810@w2003s01.double-l.local> From: Chris Rees Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:40:44 +0100 Message-ID: To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Changing NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:41:05 -0000 2009/5/8 Johan Hendriks : >>- FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE >> >>I am about the change the (working) nic of my FreeBSD server with a >>gigabit one. >>Logically I think it would be good to add the new nic first and test it >>and if it is working, just remove the old one (or leave it without cable). >>Is that the common way of doing such? Are there disadvantages with that? >> >>Jos Chrispijn > > The only thing need to change is the line ifconfig_(interface_name)="xxx.xxx ...... in the file /etc/rc.conf If the server can be offline for some time, install the new NIC and remove the old one. > Then look in dmesg what name the new nic has, like bge0 or em0 or something like that. > Edit your /etc/rc.conf file so the line ifconfig_ has your new nic module name, like ifconfig_em0= and restart the network with /etc/netstart If all is working a final reboot and all should be OK > > Regards, > Johan > > To be honest, it should be OK even without the final reboot. Johan, is there a reason you prefer /etc/netstart rather than /etc/rc.d/netif restart? Are they equivalent, or is netstart 'better' for any reason? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 15:12:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697551065675 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B718FC1E for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 8628457; Fri, 08 May 2009 11:12:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 8628455; Fri, 08 May 2009 11:12:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4A044BCF.1090607@radel.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:12:15 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> <200905080838.20628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030902080507040100040901" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: Mike Jeays , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:12:35 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030902080507040100040901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jeays wrote: > >> I would keep away from the term 'public domain', which means you would lose >> any rights to it whatsoever. > > > > Public Domain does NOT invalidate Copyright : The owner of the work is the > copyright holder . > Public Domain is a license kind which means that there is no any condition > on the usage . For example , BSD-style licenses generally are mentioned as > 2-clause ( conditions ) , 3-clause ( conditions ) , etc. . Public Domain > license means Zero-clause license . > Giving advice like this on an international list is practically an exercise in futility, as there's pretty much a 100% chance that what you're saying is completely wrong in at least one country (and, yes, that goes for everything I say below too :-). However, in some places, "public domain" does indeed mean that there is no copyright on it. It is my understanding that in some countries it is difficult, if not impossible, to disclaim copyright, so you can't put your own works into the public domain. "Public Domain license" is conflating copyrights and licenses, which while they interact, are not at all the same thing. In fairness I will grant that this is a common usage, despite the fact that some of us deplore its imprecision. My suggestion to the OP: 1) Make sure your employer (if any) doesn't have rules on this that you wish to follow, 2) Pick a license that appeals to you, 3a) If the software isn't important enough or valuable enough that you see hiring a lawyer if somebody violates your license, you're done, as so long as the license expresses what you'd prefer people to do, it really doesn't matter much whether or not you theoretically could enforce it, 3b) If this is valuable software, see a lawyer *before* you publish the software, preferably one who understands intellectual property *and* the various licenses that are available for "free" software. Do NOT depend on free advice from amateurs such as myself. Frankly, unless you see this software as providing revenue, or being part of some grand product you're releasing in phases, your license is making a philosophical declaration that a fair percentage of honorable users will more or less honor. The costs of bringing legal action to actually enforce a license are probably completely out of line with the value of the network utilities that you want to share. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms030902080507040100040901 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMyNloX DTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDeT7qtj+euqWr2wXM7OnwrXJe9 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bh=CHcvi36yRSlNxaKriZ7hk5ktGs1GjKuuElA3njj1PZg=; b=ksEugMQcRDfvNsddcypsr4WfF3CTVg9ig5QQ3iHKv1OtA25/N3Ysp3tZWnh7dzYE3r YgVnjTl+MhTrvPTJg+Qoz7HpyBiuHs2iWAaKl0IWX7mIL6PxkKwEHVrc1adi5DjlSvsL OwvJxM25VCURJc9UFv2N5nrVfmRrsdf89GUEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vD2WalrBzB7y+5tbSj4HNFj43OFGc4+PbgW1gKv/gwgZIl4WuNBGMicJpyPVUqrFmt SF7OzbW56JqOJEZ3OKnX5TmwKwtZNWi9S8y9+le80Sg23C6nea3Z5vw7srxjoGBGIabz o8DK7VjO39QAyET1wyn8ztWTxvM5VYxY62xX0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.111.134 with SMTP id s6mr2269479fap.37.1241796156938; Fri, 08 May 2009 08:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:22:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: print test page - false negative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:22:38 -0000 Just an anecdote to any of you who may be having trouble configuring printing: I installed FreeBSD 7.2 Release with CUPS and gutenprint-cups. The printer in question is an Epson Stylus Photo R280, which is supported by gutenprint. After configuring CUPS, including permissions for /dev/ulpt0, I could print; but the test page came out as garbage. In a moment of frustration, I tried to print the CUPS configuration window from the File menu in firefox......it worked! I then shutdown and left to see Star Trek before anything could go wrong. :-) I'll try to print from other applications later. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 15:26:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C57C1065670 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=37206e029=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299278FC0C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=37206e029=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,317,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="11623174" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 08 May 2009 09:57:48 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C8488AD4 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 09:57:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:57:48 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <115CE74FFEDF152EA4EFA58F@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:26:23 -0000 --On Thursday, May 07, 2009 22:16:01 -0500 Jason Garrett wrote: >> > While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and Linux > hosts on my network. > Hopefully it will work well for me too. However, I am struggling with the documentation, trying to figure out how to translate the developer-speak into normal human language. Here's what one of our guys is using on linux (I changed the hostname to foobar): cat /etc/auto.master /home ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp /proj ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_proj,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp /net -hosts So how do I tranlsate that into FreeBSD amd conf and map files? It's got me stumped. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 15:43:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BC1106564A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72428FC1A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n48FgSX2004290; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:42:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n48FgS8D004289; Fri, 8 May 2009 11:42:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:42:28 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Steve Bertrand Message-ID: <20090508154228.GA4202@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:43:24 -0000 On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 01:09:51AM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know > that there are people here who can guide me off-list. > > Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've > written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have > developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP > operations (including the OS itself). > > I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it > into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any > interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is > freely accessible. > > All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that > contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that > use modules or functions that are external is not a problem. > > GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any > code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code > overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit? The first thing to determine is if any other entity might hold some interest (ownership/copyright interest) in any of it. If you were employed by someone or some institution to do the work or the work was done during time paid by those entities, then they may have an interest. If that is not the case, then the next thing to determine is if any of it should be submitted to existing OSen or Utilities as patches - bug fixes or improvements. These two may not be a conflict as many businesses will have no problem with you submitting back fixes in software you are using in their behalf. eg, for example, if you are using FreeBSD to run a system for the business and write a patch for FreeBSD while on company time that helps that business operate better, they probably will have no problem with your submitting the patch for permanent inclusion in FreeBSD. As much as possible, then, submit PRs and include the diffs that cover the fixes or improvements. Finally, if you have complete clear ownership of some unique utilities, then include license terms in the source with a requirement that the license term be included in any subsequent distributions and then submit the utilitie as a port - if it is for FreeBSD. For a reasonable idea of how to compose license terms, check out the license terms for FreeBSD on the web site. I really don't know where to submit it if it is not for FreeBSD, although there are several sites that such as SourceForge that make themselves repositories for various usefull utilities. You'd have to check with them for how to go about submitting things and what is expected in the way of support, etc. Please include well documented source and clear statements as to what the utilities do and how to use them. Writing man pages and why-to as well as how-tos is important. You don't have to worry a whole lot Good luck, ////jerry > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 15:49:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7A7106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11108FC1A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n48FnBCO030847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:49:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4A045472.9050404@tundraware.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:49:06 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-ID: n48FnBCO030847 X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: 7.2-Stable - smbfs.ko Is Missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:49:27 -0000 I just did an update and make world/kernel with the stable sources as of this morning. The boot process grumbles and goes single user because it cannot find smbfs.ko to mount some SMB shares. Any ideas why this module has suddenly disappeared and/or a workaround? Thanks, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 15:51:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393AB106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFF68FC12 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n48FQFeT017734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:26:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4A044F12.2040801@tundraware.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:26:10 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-ID: n48FQFeT017734 X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: 7.2-Stable - smbfs.ko Is Missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:51:21 -0000 I just did an update and make world/kernel with the stable sources as of this morning. The boot process grumbles and goes single user because it cannot find smbfs.ko to mount some SMB shares. Any ideas why this module has suddenly disappeared and/or a workaround? Thanks, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 16:33:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8167106564A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF75D8FC16 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 18198 invoked from network); 8 May 2009 16:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.148.8) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 May 2009 16:33:01 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1660717273; Sat, 9 May 2009 02:33:09 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 02:33:09 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Nerius Landys Message-ID: <20090508163309.GA24958@ozzmosis.com> References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Command-line IRC client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 16:33:13 -0000 On Thu 2009-05-07 17:19:47 UTC-0700, Nerius Landys (nlandys@gmail.com) wrote: > What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal? irssi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 17:24:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D861110656CA for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 17:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D468FC12 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 17:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1050074qwe.7 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SgzraJfpMA9YoCERfWaTktaCq4EDU5iizi6zIN0TCmg=; b=ChkI9SupuWFIuunPWvxFqnloCgawaAWeMT/YdT5/+1beqAtdAE7HrS/+fNAaHif1+u 0DR3BQvXmv2lQfgUGQxChPDZu4hnY80ctz0vlbsAvCxG+AhYejzZzJIDkKW0JXadcAVV dxLF1j4nqE7Z4lcbu2YL/ktq893NdD8vXE3E8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V+FTD7SqVh6Q40QVSV63QMOrbmJ0ewP+JIb4SWexJq3uxKc9JlpcaKswXyeG1h7pT5 cGHhk+GBGvMWaUH4XVCpYlumq948U4K44WwAgGmY4/3YUx28os39CW+fQrht6ejWbdwM 99Ww9weJRCrafi7SVsYIBE+tEWhpa9ZfXWaz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.10.134 with SMTP id p6mr1101837ibp.36.1241803119716; Fri, 08 May 2009 10:18:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090506163222.C6023@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <20090506163222.C6023@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:18:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Lars Eighner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What make is in 7.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 17:24:24 -0000 2009/5/6 Lars Eighner : > > When I do man make I get a man page and it includes references to > the pmake tutorial which seems to be basis of an HTMLize pmake > tutorial in one of the books. > > But clearly the installed make is not the pmake described in the tutorial= . > The tutorial frequently suggest using Pmake -h for more details about > particular points. =A0But in 7.1 make -h results in an illegal option mes= sage. > There is no pmake or Pmake. =A0There is a pmake port but it won't build i= n > 7.1. > > So it seems I have a lot of documentation for pmake, which clearly I don'= t > have and can't get. =A0Where is the documentation for the make I do have? > Have you tried % man /usr/share/man/man1/make.1.gz ? % man -d make . . . searching in /usr/share/man trying section 1 with globbing globbing /usr/share/man/man1/make.1* found ultimate source file /usr/share/man/man1/make.1.gz to_name in convert_name () is: /usr/share/man/cat1/make.1.gz will try to write /usr/share/man/cat1/make.1.gz if needed . . . --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 17:49:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AB11065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 17:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959B78FC0A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 17:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n48HnBqu047352 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:49:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n48HnB4e047351 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 May 2009 10:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA05509; Fri, 8 May 09 10:47:27 PDT Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:47:22 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 17:49:13 -0000 What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it? I have added a 64GB Patriot flash drive to a 7.0 system, but it does not seem to be working properly. Pertinent parts of dmesg.boot: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (449.85-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 67100672 (63 MB) avail memory = 51662848 (49 MB) ... atapci1: port 0x1800-0x180f,0x14f0-0x14ff,0x14e0-0x14ef,0x14d0-0x14df,0x14a0-0x14bf,0x1000-0x10ff irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ... ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 ad6: 61136MB at ata3-master SATA150 At first things look OK, despite the "FAILURE" message: $ ls -l /dev/ad6* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 88 May 3 20:30 /dev/ad6 $ file -s /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6: x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP MBR, Serial 0x9e5523de $ grep -w ad6 /usr/local/etc/mtools.conf drive f: file="/dev/ad6" $ mdir f: init F: non DOS media Cannot initialize 'F:' Now this seems a bit odd: file(1) says it's a Windows disk, but mdir(1) says it isn't. (Note that there are no slices, else the initial ls(1) should have shown them, so I suppose the drive has a single FAT filesystem as one would expect on a floppy disk.) Then, when I tried to investigate further by examining the contents of the drive with "od -c /dev/ad6 | more", I got one screenful of output followed by (on console and in dmesg): interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=10712 interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936 etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C. (Just entering "q", to cause more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not stop the spew of messages.) What does this indicate? Hardware problems? Bad configuration? Something else? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 18:22:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7E31065675 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 18:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3AF8FC17 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 18:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1M2UiE-0003AH-6i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 May 2009 18:22:22 +0000 Received: from pool-72-75-49-62.washdc.east.verizon.net ([72.75.49.62]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 18:22:22 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-75-49-62.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 18:22:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:23:35 -0400 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <4A0432A0.40901@webrz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-75-49-62.washdc.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: Changing NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:22:28 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > - FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE > > I am about the change the (working) nic of my FreeBSD server with a > gigabit one. > Logically I think it would be good to add the new nic first and test it > and if it is working, just remove the old one (or leave it without cable). > Is that the common way of doing such? Are there disadvantages with that? > One caveat comes to mind is don't make the mistake of putting the new NIC in the same subnet as the old one. If it tests out OK you can flip them with an rc.conf edit and a reboot, and/or a netif restart if you don't want to reboot. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 18:36:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC92106564A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 18:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com [67.222.39.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20AF08FC13 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 18:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 18229 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2009 18:10:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 May 2009 18:10:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Lkku2BNYQpdUY/lwCySwThIa8GcdcVTsE4YZb/WLPYxb5BKQrfWSR7nudciS64yjIBDDgSjC/ua3wZI2yGoEuJJo0UOIQ3jFArTtFYtN81h4xcz2KGHE0PyJ6ojG5jq6; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2UWH-0007Db-VJ for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 May 2009 12:10:02 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 8 May 2009 12:05:32 -0600 Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:05:32 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: "questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20090508180532.GA69045@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "questions@freebsd.org" References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:36:45 -0000 --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 01:09:51AM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: >=20 > I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it > into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any > interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is > freely accessible. The term "public domain" has a very specific legal meaning and, unfortunately, that meaning can actually vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. For instance, while France does have a public domain, you cannot release a work into the public domain -- you must use a specific license if you want to grant open access to that work. In most jurisdictions, "public domain" refers to a state where one has disclaimed copyright for something or otherwise given up all copyright claims on it. Note that "copyright" and "credit" are not the same thing, however. Attribution is ethically a matter of fraud, and most jurisdictions will legally treat it as a matter of fraud as well if something is misrepresented as being written by someone other than its actual author, though some jurisdictions add additional attribution protection through copyright. It is for reason of the fact that copyright law is much more widely supported across different jurisdictions (i.e., in different countries or legal systems) than any standardized understanding of public domain that most people with any understanding of the complexities will recommend using a license rather than the public domain, even if what you want is effectively "the public domain". If that's your actual goal, select a license whose terms most closely approximate the public domain as you understand it, and let that be your legally binding statement of intent (for any jurisdiction that recognizes your copyright and your licensing privilege under copyright law). I'm happy to see someone wanting to make his code available to the world, by the way. Kudos to you. If there are no competing copyright claims on any of the work (such as an employment agreement that might interfere with your sole copyright claims), I absolutely encourage you to see through your intent to open the code up. Note, however, that I am not a lawyer in *any* jurisdiction, and the above should not be considered legal advice per se. Courts of law are notoriously fickle things that, for some reason, tend to be really bad at interpreting things the way the majority of humans believe they should be interpreted. Let the buyer beware, as they say. >=20 > All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that > contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that > use modules or functions that are external is not a problem. >=20 > GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any > code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code > overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit? Have you considered choosing a license that doesn't lock what you give to the world into the realm of "code"? While the terms of the BSD license for code in particular are great in my opinion, the fact that they specify software source code is not so great, because sticky ambiguities can arise when someone wants to include that code in a non-software context (such as writing an article or a book that makes use of the code, including it in music lyrics, showing it in a video production of some sort, and so on). My favorite license for all purposes at present is the Open Works License, and I actually use it to license all my emails to this mailing list: http://owl.apotheon.org While I'm at it, my favorite general licensing policy is copyfree. Where strong copyright protection is the default for many countries, notably the US and much of Europe, and copyleft is the Free Software Foundation's answer to copyright as a way of turning the purpose of copyright on its head, copyfree is kind of a rejection of both copyright and copyleft. Check out the canonical explanation: http://copyfree.org/policy/ Both the BSD license and the Open Works License are copyfree licenses, as are a number of other popular and widely used licenses. I hope you get some value from my rambling. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Thomas McCauley: "The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he would never be found out." --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoEdGwACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVM3ACeM7XqqWd0TQa3xzSQagbTMgw/ jwYAoPjReck+k918Ejy5oPWMFEcS7bhU =fvz6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 20:28:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357991065674 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 20:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D088FC13 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 20:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from hadar.vindaloo.com (hadar.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E909E5D97; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <115CE74FFEDF152EA4EFA58F@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:56:34 -0400 References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com> <115CE74FFEDF152EA4EFA58F@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 20:28:51 -0000 On May 8, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, May 07, 2009 22:16:01 -0500 Jason Garrett > wrote: >>> >> While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and >> Linux >> hosts on my network. >> > > Hopefully it will work well for me too. However, I am struggling > with the documentation, trying to figure out how to translate the > developer-speak into normal human language. > > Here's what one of our guys is using on linux (I changed the > hostname to foobar): > cat /etc/auto.master > /home ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/ > nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp > /proj ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/ > nismapname=auto_proj,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp > /net -hosts > I haven't played with Linux's autofs and when I did my look at it was shallow. From what you have here it looks like foobar.utdallas.edu is a NFS v3 server that offers a pair of directory hierarchies. He's mounting one of them on locally as /home and another as /proj. If you want to do that in FreeBSD this should get you going. *** /etc/amd/amd.conf *** [ global ] browsable_dirs = no map_type = file mount_type = nfs search_path = /etc auto_dir = /.amd cache_duration = 30 log_file = syslog:daemon log_options = fatal,error print_pid = yes pid_file = /var/run/ amd.pid restart_mounts = yes selectors_in_defaults = no [ /home ] map_name = /etc/amd/ home.map [ /proj ] map_name = /etc/amd/ proj.map *** /etc/amd/home.map *** /defaults type:=nfs;opts:=tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid,umount,vers=3;\ rhost:=foobar.utdallas.edu;rfs:=/home/${key} * fs:=${autodir}/home/${key} *** /etc/amd/proj.map *** /defaults type:=nfs;opts:=tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid,umount,vers=3;\ rhost:=foobar.utdallas.edu;rfs:=/proj/${key} * fs:=${autodir}/proj/${key} ------------------------------- In the map files you'll need to make sure that the rfs entry matches the directory tree that foobar.utdallas.edu is exporting. e.g. if you would manually mount the directory under FreeBSD like this: # mount_nfs -o tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid foobar.utdallas.edu:/home/ pschmehl /home/pschmehl or the fstab entry that you would use looks like this: # foobar.utdallas.edu:/home/pschmehl /home/pschmehl nfs noauto,tcp,intr 0 0 Then the rfs entry should look like this: ...;rfs:=/home/${key} This setup assumes that you've exported the directory try with FreeBSD's equivalent of the -alldirs option. This option allows you to mount any point under the exported tree rather than forcing you to mount the entire filesystem. A typical setup on FreeBSD would be to export /home with --alldirs then an NFS client can mount /home/ cshilton or /home/jbauer or whatever. Hope this helps -- Chris Sorry if I've got some minor bobbles in the syntax on the mount or fstab lines. > So how do I tranlsate that into FreeBSD amd conf and map files? > It's got me stumped. > > -- > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer. > ******************************************* > Check the headers before clicking on Reply. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > -- Chris Hilton chris-at-vindaloo-dot-com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "All I was doing was trying to get home from work!" -- Rosa Parks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 20:31:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3064106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5F68FC15 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39F4E01C093CB; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:31:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4A04968E.5060203@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 21:31:10 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> <4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com> <3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 20:31:14 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 5/7/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >> In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an >> unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot, >> updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still >> get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current. >> >> Should I give up or are there other things to try? > > Panic should not happen. Please provide backtrace(or crashdump or textdump) `fetch http://www.fishercroft.plus.com/vmcore.1.gz' should get a crashdump from a non-debug kernel, see below. It's about 17mb I built a driver with the XP driver using ndisgen and the same source as my recent build world. I kldload the driver module which also loads ndis.ko and if_ndis.ko. I've got wlans_ndis0="wlan0" in rc.conf and I get ndis0 and wlan0 created when I plug in the card. The interrupt storm starts when I do # ifconfig wlan0 The panic occurs maybe a minute or two after the ifconfig. I got a panic but I couldn't get a crashdump with the GENERIC kernel (nothing relevant to dumpon or savecore happened at all, no boot messages, nothing in /var/crash). I did get a bunch of stuff on ttyv0, I can post a photo somewhere if required. Or is there a way to get the screen output in text format? I built a kernel with the following changes #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU #makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options KDB # Enable kernel debugger support. #options DDB # Support DDB. #options GDB # Support remote GDB. #options INVARIANTS # Enable calls of extra sanity checking #options INVARIANT_SUPPORT # Extra sanity checks of internal structures, required by INVARIANTS #options WITNESS # Enable checks to detect deadlocks and cycles #options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN # Don't run witness on spinlocks for speed I got on ttyv0: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source repeated about 20 times then Sleeping thread (tid 100084, pid 0) owns a non-sleepable lock panic: sleeping thread cpuid = 0 Uptime:17m26s Physical memory: 434 MB Dumping 79 MB: 64 48 32 16 Dump complete (The above typed by hand) Let me know if there is more I can do but (caveat) I'm not a developer and I only put CURRENT on the machine to test if the problem had been fixed, ie please don't flame me if you ask me really difficult stuff and I don't understand it :) uname -a FreeBSD eight.config 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Fri May 8 11:20:35 BST 2009 root@eight.config:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 20:33:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADD01065674 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 20:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2578FC12 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 20:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n48KXsYI002220 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:33:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4A04972C.6010606@tundraware.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 15:33:48 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4A045472.9050404@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4A045472.9050404@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-ID: n48KXsYI002220 X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: 7.2-Stable - smbfs.ko Is Missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 20:34:00 -0000 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I just did an update and make world/kernel with the stable sources as of > this morning. The boot process grumbles and goes single user because > it cannot find smbfs.ko to mount some SMB shares. Any ideas why this > module has suddenly disappeared and/or a workaround? > > Thanks, Nevermind - a new make world/kernel fixed things ... it may have been an artifact of a full /tmp filesystem ... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 21:00:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D151065673 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6768FC2D for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id n48L0qMC007529 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 23:00:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C9F89DE7 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 23:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id CE04C15; Fri, 8 May 2009 23:00:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:00:50 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090508210050.GA35589@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.164]); Fri, 08 May 2009 23:00:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9347/Fri May 8 07:10:18 2009 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 4A049D84.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4A049D84.000/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 4A049D84.000 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.048 -> S=0.048 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 21:00:54 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > /home ldap > //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu > nfsvers=3 proto=tcp According to the documentation of FreeBSD amd one can use ldap maps with it (i have no experience of that). The doc is in: /usr/src/contrib/amd/doc/am-utils.texi -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 21:08:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D62A1065670 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=37206e029=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1337D8FC1A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=37206e029=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,319,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="11642303" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 08 May 2009 16:08:08 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F11758D34; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:08:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 21:08:08 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Christopher Sean Hilton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com> <115CE74FFEDF152EA4EFA58F@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 21:08:09 -0000 --On Friday, May 08, 2009 14:56:34 -0500 Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > > In the map files you'll need to make sure that the rfs entry matches > the directory tree that foobar.utdallas.edu is exporting. e.g. if you > would manually mount the directory under FreeBSD like this: > > # mount_nfs -o tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid foobar.utdallas.edu:/home/ > pschmehl /home/pschmehl > I can mount my homedir this way: # mount_nfs foobar.utdallas.edu:/home/003/p/pa/pauls /mnt/unix_home I assume this means that this should work: rfs:=/home/003/p/pa/${key} And then I cd to /Home/pauls (there's a section in my amd.conf file named [/Home] that has a corresponding map file amd.home which contains the syntax for mapping the drive. # cat /etc/amd.conf | grep -A3 Home [/Home] map_type =nfs map_name =amd.home mount_type =autofs # cat /etc/amd.home /defaults type:=nfs;opts:=tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid,umount,vers=3 \ rhost:olympus.utdallas.edu;rfs:=/home/003/p/pa/${key} * fs=${autodir}/${key} But that fails with a directory does not exist error. But I can already map my home drive manually. What I'm trying to figure out is how to use our ldap server to mount my home drive so that when/if it gets moved again (which happens occasionally) it will still mount and not break. The Linux construction is: ldap //rhost/nismapname=auto_home,ldap_base,nfsvers=3,proto=tcp. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get from that syntax to the amd syntax. But since I can't even automount my home using what I thought was the right syntax for amd, I guess I need to figure that out first. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 21:23:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EFC106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888268FC0A for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n48LNXNf018012 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:23:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B5B362DA4 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:23:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D56462DA3 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:23:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 8 May 2009 16:23:32 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:23:32 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EC47@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [warn] kevent: Bad file descriptor Thread-Index: AcnQIz0YhXwxYw8qSCC3pLosaFMFFA== From: "Gary Gatten" To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2009 21:23:32.0996 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D701C40:01C9D023] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: [warn] kevent: Bad file descriptor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 21:23:50 -0000 I just compiled and installed nTop 3.3.10 and now I'm getting this error. Had an older version running before this with no problem. I'm on 6.0 RELEASE. I'm still googling, any quick fixes would be GREATLY appreciated! I've been debugging and compiling all day and want to leave with this $hhh IT working! =20 TIA! =20 Gary =20
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 21:51:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842CD106566C for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EE98FC13 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n48Lphxc027067 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 17:51:43 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n48Lphhw027066; Fri, 8 May 2009 17:51:43 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 948D0BEAA; Fri, 8 May 2009 17:47:26 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <560f92640905071722t79978104v1401f99b5cedabb0@mail.gmail.com> (message from Nerius Landys on Thu, 7 May 2009 17:22:01 -0700) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090508214726.948D0BEAA@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:47:26 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 21:51:44 -0000 >> On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:22:01 -0700, >> Nerius Landys said: N> Seems that @reboot in cron is what I need. It's too bad that there's N> no straightforward shutdown hook. I use something like the script below to send me a popup message whenever one of my boxes shuts down, planned or otherwise. It assumes that if you can run cron jobs, you can be trusted to run something as yourself at system shutdown. For safety, nothing is run as root, and cron users can only run a script called called '/home/./$username/rc.d/shutdown'. Add this to /etc/rc.shutdown: run-rc-shutdown | sh If you don't have "setuidgid" installed, replace with "su -c ..." -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company The little boat gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a bowling ball wouldn't. --bizarre expressions found in student English papers --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/usr/bin/perl -w # run-rc-shutdown: print commands to run any non-root shutdown scripts. use strict; my ($dir, $dh, $home, $script, $uid, $usr); $dir = '/var/cron/tabs'; # BSD. #$dir = '/var/spool/cron/crontabs'; # Solaris. opendir($dh, "$dir") || die "opendir $dir: $!\n"; my @users = sort (grep (!/^\./, readdir($dh))); closedir($dh); foreach (@users) { ($usr, $uid, $dir) = (getpwnam($_))[0,2,7]; next unless $dir =~ m!/home/./$usr!; next unless $uid > 0; $script = $dir . '/rc.d/shutdown'; print "/usr/local/bin/setuidgid $usr $script\n" if -x $script; } exit(0); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 8 22:37:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9011065672 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 22:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invocatum@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB088FC12 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 22:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invocatum@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f33so857594fkf.11 for ; Fri, 08 May 2009 15:37:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xcHPXpNS7PaBbGcv7XhJ78YFiTCTD5kHRCNiP2INIcQ=; b=tXBGdDFR6F+DRa01f3oREJOQVdVz/Fro7lTTw5wpB5ojCquAfb/lS3Y9pI7FUTYtLj Q3G7TKipheOcaIdtrgoCcd2933KasRTgrHWgZNAP3XKJ+NHaYIeMyy94TNN9O7Mc6+Fc GirvjIpKkkvBjlnFurT5F8D9pBHlAcpw5Be0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=b1VThj5RzF0n+IlCn2RFljInQw29iUsBPfu/g3Oukl6hglI9GjV+PPqEhT7TOw7/W2 qEeXO7j62i9CgLhaYRj0lgD2juRQXeSYz2XwF/krmzI8QPnNgDRkzrdWP6BcbpikLDi2 UM83M+BoXHammMZzNIfa5bx20YGXmL5hSdn10= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.169.18 with SMTP id w18mr2608719muo.101.1241820494898; Fri, 08 May 2009 15:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: D C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 22:37:40 -0000 Hello, I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have been having problems getting bpf running. For some reason, even though bpf has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically create a bpf0 device. On boot, the system complains "pcap_open_live: (no devices found) /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory". The ultimate goal is to have this laptop connect wirelessly to my WPA2-protected WAP (already working fine with other boxes) using a static IP. I've successfully compiled in support for the Atheros-based PCMCIA card, edited rc.conf to exclude DHCP and to use wpa_supplicant.conf, and eventually compiled in bpf when I started receiving the pcap_open_live messages. I suspect bpf is needed not for DHCP which is not running, but for some of the parameters I added to wpa_supplicant.conf, which is as follows: ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=wheel network={ ssid="my_ssid" scan_ssid=1 proto=RSN key_mgmt=WPA-PSK pairwise=CCMP psk="my_ssid" } If someone would be so kind as to explain what is calling bpf and how I can create a bpf0 device by hand, I would be indebted. Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 01:38:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2422A106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 01:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51448FC14 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 01:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from Mobile2.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with SMTP id n491bvFt000879; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:37:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: mike@sentex.net To: Don Dugger Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 21:38:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compass 597 Sprint X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 01:38:03 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009 08:25:39 -0700, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >Has anyone got a Compass 597 from Sprint to work? >And if so can I get some pointers? Not sure about the sprint version, but I use the Telus version and it works quite well with u3g from STABLE and HEAD Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Inc. Model: C597 Rev 1.0 (2) Revision: p2314500,8087 [Mar 06 2008 17:19:08] QCOM: SWI6800V2_FD.00.32 BOOT: SWI6800V2_FP.01.45 2008/03/07 16:36:13 APPL: SWI6800V2_FP.01.45 2008/03/07 16:36:13 SWOC: CDPC_00004_01.02.02 USB VID: 0x1199 PID: 0x0023 +GCAP: +CIS707-A, CIS-856, CIS-856-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS =46or ppp I use evdo: set device /dev/cuaU0.0 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0s7=3D60 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set phone "#777" # The authname and authkey are meaningless, but you need to have them set. # Verizon's servers don't seem to care what you auth as. set authname "doesn't matter" set authkey "doesn't matter either" disable vjcomp =20 disable acfcomp disable deflate=20 disable deflate24 disable pred1 disable protocomp disable mppe disable ipv6cp disable lqr disable echo set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route enable dns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 01:40:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0817E10656C8 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 01:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mikealbritton@aol.com) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBACF8FC20 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 01:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mikealbritton@aol.com) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a04da4f296; Fri, 08 May 2009 21:20:15 -0400 Received: from Mikealbritton@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id n.bf2.50a12388 (37518) for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 21:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptop (71-219-187-225.clsp.qwest.net [71.219.187.225]) by cia-ma08.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA083-928e4a04da4b1ac; Fri, 08 May 2009 21:20:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000801c9d044$4c6af000$4401a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> From: "Mike Albritton" To: Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:20:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.137 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Instant Workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 01:40:01 -0000 What the fsck happened to the "Instant Workstation" port??? I'm using FreeBSD 7.2 Netinstall. Good network connection, clean inst= all, etc. Just not finding that specific port. Has it been renamed (or abandoned?) Thanks in advance. --- Mike Albritton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 02:46:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72CA106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 02:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752328FC0A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 02:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net ([74.205.51.45] helo=gregory-larkins-macbook-pro.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1M2cZv-000LkX-Py; Fri, 08 May 2009 22:46:25 -0400 Message-ID: <4A04EE7A.10108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 22:46:18 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Albritton References: <000801c9d044$4c6af000$4401a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> In-Reply-To: <000801c9d044$4c6af000$4401a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Instant Workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 02:46:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Albritton wrote: > What the fsck happened to the "Instant Workstation" port??? > I'm using FreeBSD 7.2 Netinstall. Good network connection, clean install, etc. > Just not finding that specific port. > Has it been renamed (or abandoned?) > > Thanks in advance. > --- > Mike Albritton > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi Mike, The port was deleted a while back: http://www.freshports.org/misc/instant-workstation/ I suppose you could pull your own local copy of the port, if you needed to: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/misc/instant-workstation/?hideattic=0#dirlist The port was deleted due to an incomplete pkg-list and no one fixed it before the expiration date. Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ http://twitter.com/sourcehosting -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoE7noACgkQ0sRouByUApB15gCfavPMo57kUmPnAQg6s0NeMM04 fpQAoMN2lNZH+LuIhb04mTEIdy5CVq6P =gnCK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 07:57:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D20A106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 07:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3528FC17 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 07:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n497ucJ9056905; Sat, 9 May 2009 09:56:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n497ubEO056902; Sat, 9 May 2009 09:56:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 09:56:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: D C In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 07:57:34 -0000 > I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have > been having problems getting bpf running. For some reason, even though bpf > has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically create a are you sure? your symptops suggest it was not compiled it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 08:04:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF011065670 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 08:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4914E8FC08 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 08:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n48BfxA2094703; Fri, 8 May 2009 06:42:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508063723.025c28b0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 06:41:29 -0500 To: "Daniels Vanags" , From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090507-0, 05/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n48BfxA2094703 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD on VMware ESXi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 08:04:14 -0000 At 05:44 AM 5/6/2009, Daniels Vanags wrote: >We moved Hard Disk Drives from HP ProLiant DL 385 G2 with 4GB RAM, AMD >Opteron processor to HP ProLiant DL 380 G5, 4GB RAM, Intel Xeon >processor. > >Disks contain FreeBSD Virtual Machines running in VMware ESXi Server. >When trying to boot, getting error: BTX halted. > >Please explain, how to start FreeBSD on different hardware. > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > >Daniel Vanags > >Information Technology Department > >IT infrastructure system engineer I'm not sure what exactly you've done from your posting above. I have FreeBSD running in VM's under ESXi. I have moved the FreeBSD VM's from physical server to server without much trouble. The devices presented to the FreeBSD VM are dependent the VM configuration, so I would check there first. You may have selected a different SCSI host adapter in the VM settings for instance. I believe the problem you are experiencing is more to do with your ESXi/VM configuration than FreeBSD. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 11:05:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7443106564A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A5A8FC12 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAF350C86 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6053550C49 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:05:32 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Perl upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 11:05:02 -0000 Not that I am that paranoid, but can someone tell me why Perl 5.8 is not automatically updated to 5.10 thru the ports, but (accordingly by UPDATING) has to be updated by some manual interaction? -- Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 12:10:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8051D1065675 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 12:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDC08FC0C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 12:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so587829eyd.7 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 05:10:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KLcUev9A6Pd89WzErlVl5oGk/RyTiwDc7RJQRRDRMkc=; b=HVwm6DU2qUoeT8EE7RoEefdPexN0JzXrKaG2Ec1YHV+MLa4i3VKhomkRkn0PWY+mWs dA7HTglji2IFULbBZ1YnwbEnO8B2AfWTnFAZ3pmlxhn8GzfICC1p4ROH4TJzTrCpmWsM O3/FS5gfX+e/kLLpsa1TwlmHYnmuymbCUsVmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WnwwBhanN3tlzzrkl5fOC24FS9tZ+/Q/hxsw5O7YGBWocBE/oV+qgXSyCJopJljAoK fopnt3n9t0qyaERegbEa2pfyyutyYHldzaWgI3rkqog4+9JObHEXiOfbMDHMFwEj3udw FWGXCnqZPddOTL5opDzW8R1tgiBQZOaj0FMc0= Received: by 10.210.35.5 with SMTP id i5mr5849902ebi.66.1241871019109; Sat, 09 May 2009 05:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3561426eyg.47.2009.05.09.05.10.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 09 May 2009 05:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 13:10:16 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090509131016.66f4332f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Perl upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 12:10:20 -0000 On Sat, 09 May 2009 13:05:32 +0200 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Not that I am that paranoid, but can someone tell me why Perl 5.8 is > not automatically updated to 5.10 thru the ports, but (accordingly by > UPDATING) has to be updated by some manual interaction? That's the way the port system works. perl5.6, perl5.8 and perl5.10 are separate ports, making it automatic would involve forcing people off perl5.8 and marking it as "moved". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 12:21:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4319E1065673 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 12:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216C58FC1D for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 12:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 622C516B634; Sat, 9 May 2009 07:21:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.81]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E7B7516B4BD; Sat, 9 May 2009 07:21:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sat, 9 May 2009 07:19:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 07:19:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Jos Chrispijn In-Reply-To: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> Message-ID: <20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Perl upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 12:21:50 -0000 On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Not that I am that paranoid, but can someone tell me why Perl 5.8 is not > automatically updated to 5.10 thru the ports, but (accordingly by UPDATING) > has to be updated by some manual interaction? You must be new around here. The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is relatively painless compared to previous perl upgrades. So much stuff depends upon perl that: 1) special treatment is required to be sure you end up with a system that is functional in practice, and 2) people should not be misled as to the extent of the work involved. Use pkg_info -R to see what you may be in for. Perl was once ("recently" for some of us) part of the system. Logic may be on the side of considering it an application, but as a practical matter it is a distinction without a (big) difference. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 13:09:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5D3106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB6F8FC0C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n49D9lPr017427; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:09:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n49D9jSJ017424; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:09:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 15:09:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Message-ID: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:09:58 -0000 On Fri, 8 May 2009, Derek Ragona wrote: > At 09:42 AM 5/7/2009, Pieter Donche wrote: > FreeBSD7 with isc-dhcp30-server. > It hands out an IP address, OK, > but the BASH environment variable HOSTNAME is not set. Why? > > (A DNS server is active on the network and can succesfully be > queried from a FreeBSD bash command (nslookup or host) to see > the hostname associated with the IP-address) > > > I have a later version of dhcpd running on FreeBSD without problems. If > your DHCP scope is setup correctly and your DHCP clients are getting > settings that work, I'm not sure what is the problem you are experiencing. > You hostname variable can be set in the startup bash (or any other shell's > startup scripts) scripts on login. Of course, it can be set by oneself in a startup script, but this should not be needed... In fact when I switch the network cable of that DHCP client PC to another subnet, where another DHCP server is active (don't know on what OS that DHCP server runs but certainly not FreeBSD), then HOSTNAME is set. My DHCPclient is triple boot (SUSE linux, FreeBSD7 and Windows), With network cable again in first network (with the FreeBSD7/isc-dhcp-server DHCP server) when I boot into SuSE Linux, the HOSTNAME variable is set ... So it is the combination FreeBSD7-amd64/isc-dhcp30-server as a DHCP server that does not set HOSTNAME ... I am puzzled why ... overview: case DHCP server DHCP client HOSTNAME env. var. 1 isc-dhcp30-server FreeBSD7-i386 not set on FreeBSD-amd64 2 isc-dhcp30-server SuSE Linux 10.3 set on FreeBSD-amd64 3 some DHCP server FreeBSD7-i386 set on unkown serverOS 4 some DHCP server SuSE Linux 10.3 set on unkown serverOS I compared from case 1 and 3 all variables that are set after a login (unix set command, and with a login using standard .profile and .bashrc startup scripts as created when creating a new user via useradd), and the only difference is precisely this HOSTNAME env. variable not being set (and of course some of them derived from that env. var.) > > -Derek > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 13:13:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747D61065670 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A7C8FC14 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A5050C86; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC36B50C49; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:13:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 15:13:55 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> <20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Perl upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:13:24 -0000 Lars Eighner wrote: > On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > You must be new around here. Yes, I am L-) > The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is > relatively > painless compared to previous perl upgrades. So much stuff depends upon > perl that: [snip] Do you recommend having Perl updated or should I stay with 5.8? thanks, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 13:25:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E99106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C828FC15 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n49DPhQc068531; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:25:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n49DPhQc068531 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1241875545; bh=4b7/sa459ZrOvkUcmuZ/GEpzY75z7S0hihBt/a09+z0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A058450.2020606@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2009=20May=202009=2014:25:36=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Jos=20Chrispijn=20|CC:=20Lars=20Ei ghner=20,=20=0D=0A=20FreeBSD=20Questio ns=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Perl=20upgra de|References:=20<4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>=09<20090509064241.W5 1488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>=20<4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>|I n-Reply-To:=20<4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200 .95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B =0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundar y=3D"------------enigEF7760AE0840880AF5358633"; b=wr8gT/5Bo+0nP8cPHfjFuyy49sJw6oX467ZOAVpOHyykqPO3s2LRWjCLVooICSsuS l/uWRtNrMt9txSiFH1qhkrIqqGtGzGN8dpsWLJD0pT19zyAW6x/Tm/c9RFXjx+waod PqjJq+Cxi3mM6l3MEEsR5cdcER7j8eH+o5/SEMjU= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A058450.2020606@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:25:36 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> <20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEF7760AE0840880AF5358633" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Lars Eighner , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Perl upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:25:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEF7760AE0840880AF5358633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Lars Eighner wrote: >> On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is=20 >> relatively >> painless compared to previous perl upgrades. So much stuff depends up= on >> perl that: > Do you recommend having Perl updated or should I stay with 5.8? I've updated a number of machines to perl-5.10, and apart from the sheer amount of stuff that needs re-installing it has been virtually painless. Most publicly available perl modules are written to be compatible with perl-5.8.3 or later and unless you're being bitten by some version specif= ic bug there's no really pressing reason to upgrade to 5.10 right now. On the other hand, neither is there any really pressing reason /not/ to upgr= ade. It's all down to personal preference. However, I expect the consensus on the minimum supported version to chang= e over time and more use to be made of 5.10 specific features, so I'd certa= inly recommend installing brand new machines with perl-5.10 in order to minimi= ze the potential for future pain. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigEF7760AE0840880AF5358633 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkoFhFcACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwiwwCghKsCx5nblyMP8huosuRqLb0M WHUAnjZMgHMtwatKK4Sws6GpNt7ukpkG =KqcO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEF7760AE0840880AF5358633-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 13:34:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1AD10656C0 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B988FC31 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id CB2DA16B60C; Sat, 9 May 2009 08:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.84]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4523916B60B; Sat, 9 May 2009 08:34:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sat, 9 May 2009 08:31:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:31:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Jos Chrispijn In-Reply-To: <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net> Message-ID: <20090509082129.R56383@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> <20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Perl upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:34:32 -0000 On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Lars Eighner wrote: >> On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> >> You must be new around here. > Yes, I am L-) >> The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is relatively >> painless compared to previous perl upgrades. So much stuff depends upon >> perl that: > [snip] > > Do you recommend having Perl updated or should I stay with 5.8? Unless you know there is something in 5.10 that you need now, I recommend waiting at least a little bit. Let the gotta-have-the-newest-shiny folks take the sharp edges off. Study the dependencies list from pkg_info and dependencies of any big thing you plan to install. If you are going to (re-)build something big or a lot of little things anyway, it may make sense to upgrade perl just before you do that so that rebuilding the ports that depend on perl will kill two birds with one stone. If such an opportunity doesn't arise, maybe do it anyway about the time of the first frost --- snuggle up in front of the blazing compiler and sip hot chocolate. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 13:47:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DEA106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9E258FC16 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 28211 invoked by uid 89); 9 May 2009 13:49:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 9 May 2009 13:49:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4A058988.8080808@ibctech.ca> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 09:47:52 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> <20090508180532.GA69045@kokopelli.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20090508180532.GA69045@kokopelli.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090006080702010602070502" Cc: Subject: Re: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:47:58 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090006080702010602070502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chad Perrin wrote: [..huge snip..] > I hope you get some value from my rambling. I have gained very much value from what everyone has had to say, and I want to thank everyone. Although I have very much reading to do, I've come to a few conclusions thus far. One thing that did not cross my mind prior was regarding the comments Chad made, use in media other than within the programming scope itself. FYI, almost all of my apps are for systems/network management and automation. I've written an application that bridges our wireless hotspots to our payment bank site (the bank supplied me a Perl module), through to radius, and with an expiry method to automatically remove the users so that the entire process is hands off. Most of my code would have to be changed to make it generic and not so site specific before being put out there. Being that I'm not really a programmer, having my code out there for peer review would make it much, much better if it was useful. (I'd probably be on the receiving end of finger pointing and laughing, but that's ok ;) Thanks all! 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: Jos Chrispijn , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Perl upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:00:53 -0000 On Sat, 9 May 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote: > However, I expect the consensus on the minimum supported version to change > over time and more use to be made of 5.10 specific features, so I'd certainly > recommend installing brand new machines with perl-5.10 in order to minimize > the potential for future pain. I concur. If you do the pkg_info thing and the list of stuff depending on perl is very short, by all means upgrade before it gets long. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 14:43:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E379106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f216.google.com (mail-fx0-f216.google.com [209.85.220.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89008FC1E for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1886628fxm.43 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 07:42:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RgvrYvj61ZowxxQfcBusUmL9A/uQK7H3VGDemfQULl8=; b=KMI9Za75gtJVm6pUKGnQbqxE6uBZd3YQFy83lpa3IBSCeybUenKDbwKEtGEUUOViS2 nVaAYVqWt3uT3Dlk3Y5Dj5zg14/8rCnRcwcGswTMBluE/hFDF8h/wEout9QBR8GHIfbb mXzAWKUOGCv0sxlrFNjETlrWkzhXPjIcEwqow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bW9xcCZA7eOIhjCF2sHcHOKHWO+1ucJ0XhvrHU+EaBcGjxHnYWryz6bph+DSDA7p2X sTDyz2Usd6/c5NH4fDblt9u80g5nCIA2DPTnwxUMS0+Ox47YWp4l9XsuYSlOlUS4MVk1 ZirLivW6InUYxtycW81lijKEROnu64dKbCwPc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.178.197 with SMTP id a5mr268365hbg.1.1241880178511; Sat, 09 May 2009 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A04968E.5060203@onetel.com> References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> <4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com> <3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com> <4A04968E.5060203@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 16:42:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750905090742i4bf80d45n323a81d3e18223a@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:43:00 -0000 On 5/8/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On 5/7/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> >>> In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an >>> unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot, >>> updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still >>> get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current. >>> >>> Should I give up or are there other things to try? >> >> Panic should not happen. Please provide backtrace(or crashdump or >> textdump) > > `fetch http://www.fishercroft.plus.com/vmcore.1.gz' should get a > crashdump from a non-debug kernel, see below. It's about 17mb > > I built a driver with the XP driver using ndisgen and the same source as > my recent build world. > > I kldload the driver module which also loads ndis.ko and if_ndis.ko. > > I've got > wlans_ndis0="wlan0" > in rc.conf and I get ndis0 and wlan0 created when I plug in the card. > > The interrupt storm starts when I do > > # ifconfig wlan0 > > The panic occurs maybe a minute or two after the ifconfig. > > I got a panic but I couldn't get a crashdump with the GENERIC kernel > (nothing relevant to dumpon or savecore happened at all, no boot > messages, nothing in /var/crash). > I did get a bunch of stuff on ttyv0, I can post a photo somewhere if > required. Or is there a way to get the screen output in text format? > > I built a kernel with the following changes > > #cpu I486_CPU > #cpu I586_CPU > > #makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug Oh nooooo, crash dump is useless with that option commented in kernel. [You can alway just look at documentation installed in /usr/share/doc/, for example developers handbook] > symbols > > #options KDB # Enable kernel debugger support. > #options DDB # Support DDB. > #options GDB # Support remote GDB. > #options INVARIANTS # Enable calls of extra sanity > checking > #options INVARIANT_SUPPORT # Extra sanity checks of > internal structures, required by INVARIANTS > #options WITNESS # Enable checks to detect > deadlocks and cycles > #options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN # Don't run witness on spinlocks > for speed Both KDB, DDB, GDB, WITNESS and INVARIANTS are usefull in debugging kernel. So please uncomment all that debugging support. After all you can build two kernels, and use boot loader command or nextboot(8) > > > > I got on ttyv0: > > interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source > > repeated about 20 times then > > Sleeping thread (tid 100084, pid 0) owns a non-sleepable lock Heh, thats is bug, now only remains to find where it is caused. > panic: sleeping thread > cpuid = 0 > Uptime:17m26s > Physical memory: 434 MB > Dumping 79 MB: 64 48 32 16 > Dump complete > > (The above typed by hand) > > Let me know if there is more I can do but (caveat) I'm not a developer > and I only put CURRENT on the machine to test if the problem had been > fixed, ie please don't flame me if you ask me really difficult stuff and > I don't understand it :) You can always ask me off list for anything that you don't understand. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 14:46:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5F2106564A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4688FC1C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so601816eyd.7 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aWkhGswn8jtPQde6Ei7gFsjcrZ4OxnBodYlYSXs1i1M=; b=pVnguCvF6+ynsW8D1pA00V7qc7aIg6YSViRJLq08pBZVf3UparxF/Dsw03uPeYQasU 59vasDdt815HzrFLZ66voZ67xSqSrXnTqChCyPiGn37ii05LTwbE3nSbdRaJuFhAuLcR CQUuGlArWIh6c4VUhQMNj31n8ny95VXQEJBhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B3UQeBRl3Ew1m4oU5d+stoqZCFM4wgpUW7nj9wiRnK2JsZ9PHx1BwrBcrrr1UHZm1E wnwEQU9mwSSlGrtXmznGRN81/yjRi5kcQfdlsbv0y+uiiDAC25TB5OgRtxopEffdePXb TBo6hOuvPQwdlfSaEmFXr3wuYB8NzVEvSyxFU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.91.7 with SMTP id o7mr2457275ebb.34.1241880373083; Sat, 09 May 2009 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 15:45:53 +0100 Message-ID: To: D C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:46:14 -0000 2009/5/8 D C : > Hello, > > I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have > been having problems getting bpf running. =A0For some reason, even though= bpf > has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically creat= e a > bpf0 device. =A0On boot, the system complains "pcap_open_live: (no device= s > found) /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory". > > The ultimate goal is to have this laptop connect wirelessly to my > WPA2-protected WAP (already working fine with other boxes) using a static > IP. > > I've successfully compiled in support for the Atheros-based PCMCIA card, > edited rc.conf to exclude DHCP and to use wpa_supplicant.conf, and > eventually compiled in bpf when I started receiving the pcap_open_live > messages. > > I suspect bpf is needed not for DHCP which is not running, but for some o= f > the parameters I added to wpa_supplicant.conf, which is as follows: > > ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant > ctrl_interface_group=3Dwheel > > network=3D{ > ssid=3D"my_ssid" > scan_ssid=3D1 > proto=3DRSN > key_mgmt=3DWPA-PSK > pairwise=3DCCMP > psk=3D"my_ssid" > } > > If someone would be so kind as to explain what is calling bpf and how I c= an > create a bpf0 device by hand, I would be indebted. > > Thanks... [chris@amnesiac]~% ls /dev/bpf0 /dev/bpf0 [chris@amnesiac]~% grep bpf /root/AMN AMNESIAC.conf AMNESIAC.xbox.conf [chris@amnesiac]~% grep bpf /root/AMNESIAC.conf # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter [chris@amnesiac]~% Are you *sure* you've compiled in bpf? Did you reboot after recompiling? Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 14:46:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF7C10656F0 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f165.google.com (mail-bw0-f165.google.com [209.85.218.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A9E8FC13 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1851714bwz.43 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 07:46:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/6k8W56JgJDaXRRX85+c0QHRLOKrdMxnavJTRwrLJFc=; b=TcnwIEwbmINP5ly5TJBmqoPfpuJDpDnokaCH6m/1g4EsL4ggVKOCz95o+0XiSKAt88 6izQe8C7+yCHg0oP2AWKa34n1fiKGgLalSyJdEN4CF0A37PpAzZQKOUhgqQM74Hqbmaw RdTg2gcSK11f5bReko8bMenH1dkx7md+HcNvc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OpuFR8YbFjaY99UR516/Otkd4zugp1iSV10xjbUHb88Kfmm+KPnL4LXoW7SZjuhEOK X/h6XQui3daqHyCZ/RJVWynlcsN0DCVXy8J4afgguuPtQgSG5R21NNA04cqeifSIiCYP RY4G9Dh30recfZnl93ZojN3b8pLiALHRIDdO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.145 with SMTP id e17mr274101hbc.95.1241880382983; Sat, 09 May 2009 07:46:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 16:46:22 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to fix "interrupt storm" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:46:25 -0000 On 5/8/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it? > > I have added a 64GB Patriot flash drive to a 7.0 system, but it does > not seem to be working properly. Pertinent parts of dmesg.boot: > > FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 > root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (449.85-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 > > Features=0x183f9ff > real memory = 67100672 (63 MB) > avail memory = 51662848 (49 MB) > ... > atapci1: port > 0x1800-0x180f,0x14f0-0x14ff,0x14e0-0x14ef,0x14d0-0x14df,0x14a0-0x14bf,0x1000-0x10ff > irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0 > atapci1: [ITHREAD] > ata2: on atapci1 > ata2: [ITHREAD] > ata3: on atapci1 > ata3: [ITHREAD] > ata4: on atapci1 > ata4: [ITHREAD] > ... > ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 > ad6: 61136MB at ata3-master SATA150 > > At first things look OK, despite the "FAILURE" message: > > $ ls -l /dev/ad6* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 88 May 3 20:30 /dev/ad6 > $ file -s /dev/ad6 > /dev/ad6: x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP MBR, Serial 0x9e5523de > $ grep -w ad6 /usr/local/etc/mtools.conf > drive f: file="/dev/ad6" > $ mdir f: > init F: non DOS media > Cannot initialize 'F:' > > Now this seems a bit odd: file(1) says it's a Windows disk, but > mdir(1) says it isn't. (Note that there are no slices, else the > initial ls(1) should have shown them, so I suppose the drive has > a single FAT filesystem as one would expect on a floppy disk.) > Then, when I tried to investigate further by examining the contents > of the drive with "od -c /dev/ad6 | more", I got one screenful of > output followed by (on console and in dmesg): > > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 > ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=10712 > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 > ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936 > > etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C. (Just entering "q", to cause > more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not > stop the spew of messages.) > > What does this indicate? Hardware problems? Bad configuration? > Something else? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Output of "vmstat -i"? -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 15:15:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7C8106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dleal@webvolution.net) Received: from front4.netvisao.pt (front4.netvisao.pt [213.228.128.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8B548FC0A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dleal@webvolution.net) Received: (qmail 19257 invoked from network); 9 May 2009 14:49:15 -0000 Received: from av-front2.netvisao.pt (213.228.128.153) by front4.netvisao.pt with SMTP; 9 May 2009 14:49:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 25562 invoked from network); 9 May 2009 14:49:18 -0000 Received: from ar-217-129-86-43.netvisao.pt (HELO [192.168.1.200]) (dleal@[217.129.86.43]) (envelope-sender ) by av-front2.netvisao.pt (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 May 2009 14:49:18 -0000 Message-ID: <4A0598AE.1080403@webvolution.net> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 15:52:30 +0100 From: Daniel Leal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090226) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.0.0.3216-5.6.0.1016-16632.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--4.430-5.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--4.430-5.0-31-1 Subject: freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 15:15:57 -0000 Hi. I just read about freebsd-update in the handbook. It seams very useful to upgrade my 7.1 system to 7.2. But what about ports and docs? Is it able to deal with that upgrade also ? thanks, daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 17:09:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B784106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 17:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D09B8FC1B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 17:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FCE7E837; Sat, 9 May 2009 09:09:27 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:09:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EC47@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EC47@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905091909.25788.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Gary Gatten Subject: Re: [warn] kevent: Bad file descriptor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 17:09:28 -0000 On Friday 08 May 2009 23:23:32 Gary Gatten wrote: > I just compiled and installed nTop 3.3.10 and now I'm getting this > error. Had an older version running before this with no problem. I'm > on 6.0 RELEASE. I'm still googling, any quick fixes would be GREATLY > appreciated! Shot in the dark: mount /proc. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 17:16:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D131065670 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 17:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F468FC1F for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 17:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2731D50CC0; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:16:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A8350CBD; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:16:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A05BA7A.4080902@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:16:42 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net> <20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net> <4A058450.2020606@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20090509085542.F56540@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20090509085542.F56540@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Perl upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 17:16:12 -0000 Lars Eighner wrote: > On Sat, 9 May 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > I concur. If you do the pkg_info thing and the list of stuff > depending on > perl is very short, by all means upgrade before it gets long. After having some investigation on this subject, it comes clear to me that Perl is a very important part of my FreeBSD. Before that I considered it only as an app, nothing more than that *-) I did the update on a backup server and it took me 5 hours to get this done (going thru a full install of FreeBSD). Rebooted the system and so far no strange side-effects. I will though keep attention on evt. flaws on its behavior, allthough I expect the developer has it throuroughly tested before releasing it. thanks for sharing, -- Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 17:32:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5B01065675 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 17:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from river@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk) Received: from loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk (cl-121.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a01:348:6:78::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EB98FC12 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 17:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from river@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk) Received: from loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk (river@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk (@(#)Sendmail version 8.13.3 - Revision 1.005 - 15 November 2007/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n49HVv3H010988 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 18:31:57 +0100 (BST) Received: (from river@localhost) by loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk (@(#)Sendmail version 8.13.3 - Revision 1.005 - 15 November 2007/8.13.3/Submit) id n49HVvWk010987 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 May 2009 18:31:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 18:31:57 +0100 From: River Tarnell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090509173157.GO17743@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: connect() records in BSM auditing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 17:32:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi, i'm using BSM auditing on 7.2-RELEASE to log network connections. i enabled 'nt' in audit_control: flags:lo,ad,+ex,na,+nt when examining the audit log with praudit, i see records for connect() calls: header,68,10,connect(2),0,Sat May 9 16:00:00 2009, + 560 msec subject,rriver,root,wheel,root,wheel,43709,835,15007,255.255.255.255 return,success,0 trailer,68 however, i don't see that the destination (or source) address is logged anywhere. i don't really see the point of auditing network activity without this information--is this a missing feature, or have i misconfigured something? thanks, river. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (HP-UX) iEYEARECAAYFAkoFvg0ACgkQIXd7fCuc5vKRFACeJaVKeRBe9OUyPU/j9HrfBVMw XYQAoIR7CAb/SqujCg1QIFUoVRFhyGnD =M1bm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 19:00:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25347106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nevadadirren@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f165.google.com (mail-bw0-f165.google.com [209.85.218.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F5C8FC21 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nevadadirren@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1929690bwz.43 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 12:00:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=7yfRjK48n1efoqFyF45fBkLs4vSOms+xTDZI5KySOtQ=; b=vbvW3XswceZ9VibbUaRvyY4SNkkhAXR07HzuLWd7sNS2ZH1Ssm8g4uiwIMkB6gwvO1 AQLDRkjJSxcNE2q6wE9M8pycoN9LQ1F++P31xSUcXjmAURF2tVIDRBfNrf6tJGmYGUYf ULnQm3b/L4Oeb1QiewzNQniUToZXcl6p4hjAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oHMSvcxGmeKxxl251SW1d9mUFbTPE6LNXM5GyYIjYA2rfJXnbVcnw/RXyEwqOeS3zm MpywWyFirA7ez2M5UP6D/YQMOh8bHW3R5C6E/VXe+3ysfAed8pUPJBZ6nBGzXMR/Cv0S /tIEmNLurtdPB3u4PIpQjNGP391CLQbEfkRhI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.118.141 with SMTP id v13mr2876816faq.26.1241894143296; Sat, 09 May 2009 11:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 20:35:43 +0200 Message-ID: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com> From: Fabian Krook To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:00:12 -0000 When i try to do ex X -configure it tell me that there are no Driver and then create xorg.conf.new which have the driver. But when i tries to use X -config xorg.conf.new it will just go into a blank screen and can only be terminated through kill command. (Have installed the ATI radeon Driver) Any clue? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 19:11:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5451065677 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8225B8FC16 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090509191108736.KWYI2590@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:22:05 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <93D8ECC8AF9F5E43679AE26B@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:11:10 -0000 --On May 7, 2009 10:16:01 PM -0500 Jason Garrett wrote: >> > While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and Linux > hosts on my network. > And I'm sure it will for me as well, if I can ever figure it out. Here's how our linux hosts are automounting drives: cat /etc/auto.master /home ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp /proj ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_proj,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp /net -hosts How do I translate that into FBSD amd speak? I have to tell you, the amd docs are not for the faint of heart. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 19:11:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DF7106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0450F8FC18 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090509191110273.KWYR2590@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:10 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:27:13 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Autofs howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:11:11 -0000 --On May 7, 2009 10:16:01 PM -0500 Jason Garrett wrote: >> > While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and Linux > hosts on my network. > And I'm sure it will for me as well, if I can ever figure it out. Here's how our Linux hosts are automounting drives. cat /etc/auto.master /home ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp /proj ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_proj,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp /net -hosts Can anyone translate that into FBSD amd speak? I have to tell you, the docs for amd are not for the faint of heart. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 19:11:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B759C106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D92E8FC1A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090509191111728.KWZD2590@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:11:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:01:47 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Problems with amd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:11:13 -0000 It looks like my install of amd is screwed up. Is there a way to rebuild amd from source without rebuilding world? # uname -a FreeBSD utd65257.utdallas.edu 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #12: Wed May 6 12:12:16 CDT 2009 root@utd65257.utdallas.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 amd -r May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: no logfile defined; using stderr May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: AM-UTILS VERSION INFORMATION: May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Erez Zadok May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Copyright (c) 1990 Jan-Simon Pendry May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Copyright (c) 1990 Imperial College of Science, Technology & Medicine May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: am-utils version 6.1.5 (build 702100). May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Report bugs to https://bugzilla.am-utils.org/ or am-utils@am-utils.org. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Configured by David O'Brien on date 4-December-2007 PST. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Built by root@utd65257.utdallas.edu on date Wed May 6 11:44:19 CDT 2009. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: cpu=i386 (little-endian), arch=i386, karch=i386. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: full_os=freebsd7.2, os=freebsd7, osver=7.2, vendor=undermydesk, distro=The FreeBSD Project. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: domain=utdallas.edu, host=utd65257, hostd=utd65257.utdallas.edu. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Map support for: root, passwd, union, nis, ndbm, file, exec, error. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: AMFS: nfs, link, nfsx, nfsl, host, linkx, program, union, ufs, cdfs, May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: pcfs, auto, direct, toplvl, error, inherit. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: FS: cd9660, nfs, nfs3, nullfs, msdosfs, ufs, unionfs. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Network: wire="129.110.3.0" (netnumber=129.110.3). May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: My ip addr is 127.0.0.1 This all looks OK, but look what happens when I try to load the amd.conf file: # amd -F /etc/amd.conf AMDCONF: syntax error on line 2 (section global) Here's the first two lines of the amd.conf file: # cat -n /etc/amd.conf 1 # GLOBAL OPTIONS SECTION 2 [global] 3 auto_dir =/.amd_net Line two is the syntax for the global section and is correct. I've tried putting spaces around the word global. I've tried using other types of brackets. Nothing works. And there's another thing. The /etc/defaults/rc.conf file has a flags line for amd: # grep amd_flags /etc/defaults/rc.conf bootparamd_flags="" # Flags to bootparamd amd_enable="NO" # Run amd service with $amd_flags (or NO). amd_flags="-a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map" If I add an amd_flags section to /etc/rc.conf (which should override what's in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, amd will not start: # grep amd_flags /etc/rc.conf amd_flags="-l /var/log/amd.log" # /etc/rc.d/amd restart Stopping amd. Waiting for PIDS: 22821, 22821. NFS access cache time=60 Starting amd. # /etc/rc.d/amd status amd is not running. Apparently, when amd starts with the /etc/defaults/rc.conf settings, it does not parse the /etc/amd.conf file, which allows it to run. But that means I have to edit /etc/defaults/rc.conf if I want to make any changes *and* I can't have an amd.conf file. Clearly this is not correct behavior. So I'd like to rebuild amd and see if that fixes the problem, but I don't want to rebuild world if I can avoid it. One last thing. Is there any way to unmount nfs mounts without rebooting the box? I've tried amq -u and umount without success. The mounts are stale and have been that way for almost 24 hours now. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 19:14:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C2810656B0 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804888FC1F for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crankbuster@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so1757121rvb.43 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 12:14:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:organization:user-agent; bh=67/U5sLMsLATPv6GMHyBikadxXYPc3lAfU5zqVULDHg=; b=lrUa+fQDXHIeKY/wl6K8muwYcboRHUAxsb0VWDyTpqG0uPaEESFn16eb1kWXfenyg+ zE4v1+xhmiNRh+Rp+UDc0DepzxpCJV7OJX/KTL8H2vX4ZjnB3of4Cr+yfieF7IFUA+R6 2yAwz5IOplSxDc/RThvlr3Qy4O7thPQhoSzQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :organization:user-agent; b=E2DqbfKIf3Cb3f3LDO0mJKWHCpuama2CYKcaiGJYHY5sSvMTnsPfNBQ8z/CmywgJuT V+OquecTwYJ3nHsJgF7C61uH48EJU0B+vYE/vCPBwW0HuHlVj1x6k34CER/IzFj7aMxv KXyHByzQQ1xaWjuticCDsXkIVZKsZapeyisCs= Received: by 10.141.198.2 with SMTP id a2mr2096671rvq.58.1241896451023; Sat, 09 May 2009 12:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp-124-121-35-176.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.121.35.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm2060183rvf.1.2009.05.09.12.14.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 09 May 2009 12:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 02:13:59 +0700 From: Old Crankbuster To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090509191359.GH4754@gecko.davescrunch.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="df+09Je9rNq3P+GE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com> Organization: (something or other) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 19:14:12 -0000 --df+09Je9rNq3P+GE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Fabian Krook [2009-05-09 20:35:43 +0200]: > When i try to do ex X -configure it tell me that there are no Driver and > then create xorg.conf.new which have the driver. But when i tries to use X > -config xorg.conf.new it will just go into a blank screen and can only be > terminated through kill command. (Have installed the ATI radeon Driver) A= ny > clue? Nothing but problem here with Radeon. Move the xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf then run startx. Will start, but on my machine had tearing, and the laptop started running VERY hot. I dropped back to 7.1-RELEASE, That system won't fry my machine. --=20 Cheers --df+09Je9rNq3P+GE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoF1fYACgkQ5cpRcLTxAv7uoACfTXwHefxcs1KuX+lyitjLWmJV T/MAn2U6N7F2MBi7wRFgq2eWzCwMMwd7 =6Xzw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --df+09Je9rNq3P+GE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 20:22:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E481065678 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89228FC0C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1M2t4E-00045m-0s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:22:42 +0000 Received: from pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.147.11]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:22:42 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:22:42 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:23:57 -0400 Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 20:22:45 -0000 D C wrote: > Hello, > > I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have > been having problems getting bpf running. For some reason, even though > bpf has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically > create a > bpf0 device. On boot, the system complains "pcap_open_live: (no devices > found) /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory". > > The ultimate goal is to have this laptop connect wirelessly to my > WPA2-protected WAP (already working fine with other boxes) using a static > IP. > > I've successfully compiled in support for the Atheros-based PCMCIA card, > edited rc.conf to exclude DHCP and to use wpa_supplicant.conf, and > eventually compiled in bpf when I started receiving the pcap_open_live > messages. > > I suspect bpf is needed not for DHCP which is not running, but for some of > the parameters I added to wpa_supplicant.conf, which is as follows: > [snip] I confess to not having much knowledge in this area, but am interested from considering adding a card to my gateway-firewall-router box. I have two servers here at home, one is the afore mentioned gateway and the other is an Apache/MySQL/Samba server. Looking at the /dev on both I noticed that the gateway box has the bpf entries while the web server box does not. So I believe there needs to be an interface such as a firewall or DHCP which will consume the bpf in order for the /dev entry to be created. I suspect that you may have skipped over the proper creation of your wireless interface which would have created the bpf when initialized. You may consider trying to get the interface up and running with wireless connectivity without WEP/WPA first, then work on adding in the supplicant afterwards. My belief is when the network interface for the card comes up you will automagically then have the bpf entries in /dev. You may also take a look at /etc/devd.conf and /etc/defaults/pccard.conf for brain-jogging ideas. I do confess to not knowing enough about them. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 20:26:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C7E106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DD38FC18 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090509202631912.IUXV17201@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:26:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 15:26:28 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 20:26:34 -0000 I have a problem with amd. It's not working right, and I don't think I can fix it without rebuilding it. Here's the problems: # uname -a FreeBSD utd65257.utdallas.edu 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #12: Wed May 6 12:12:16 CDT 2009 root@utd65257.utdallas.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 amd appears to be obtaining the correct information from my system: # amd -r May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: no logfile defined; using stderr May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: AM-UTILS VERSION INFORMATION: May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Erez Zadok May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Copyright (c) 1990 Jan-Simon Pendry May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Copyright (c) 1990 Imperial College of Science, Technology & Medicine May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: am-utils version 6.1.5 (build 702100). May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Report bugs to https://bugzilla.am-utils.org/ or am-utils@am-utils.org. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Configured by David O'Brien on date 4-December-2007 PST. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Built by root@utd65257.utdallas.edu on date Wed May 6 11:44:19 CDT 2009. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: cpu=i386 (little-endian), arch=i386, karch=i386. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: full_os=freebsd7.2, os=freebsd7, osver=7.2, vendor=undermydesk, distro=The FreeBSD Project. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: domain=utdallas.edu, host=utd65257, hostd=utd65257.utdallas.edu. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Map support for: root, passwd, union, nis, ndbm, file, exec, error. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: AMFS: nfs, link, nfsx, nfsl, host, linkx, program, union, ufs, cdfs, May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: pcfs, auto, direct, toplvl, error, inherit. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: FS: cd9660, nfs, nfs3, nullfs, msdosfs, ufs, unionfs. May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: Network: wire="129.110.3.0" (netnumber=129.110.3). May 9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info: My ip addr is 127.0.0.1 But it can't seem to parse the amd.conf file correctly: # amd -F /etc/amd.conf AMDCONF: syntax error on line 2 (section global) However the conf file is correct: # cat -n /etc/amd.conf 1 # GLOBAL OPTIONS SECTION 2 [global] 3 auto_dir =/.amd_net I have tried putting spaces on either side of global without success. I have tried using different types of brackets without success. The global line is correct yet amd claims that it is not. That's not all. There are some settings for amd_flags in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: grep "amd_flags=" /etc/defaults/rc.conf bootparamd_flags="" # Flags to bootparamd amd_flags="-a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map" If I override those flags by adding amd_flags to /etc/rc.conf, amd will not run: # grep amd_flags /etc/rc.conf amd_flags="-l /var/log/amd.log" # /etc/rc.d/amd start NFS access cache time=60 Starting amd. [root@utd65257 ~]# /etc/rc.d/amd status amd is not running. It runs fine with the default flags: # grep amd_flags /etc/rc.conf #amd_flags="-l /var/log/amd.log" # /etc/rc.d/amd start NFS access cache time=60 Starting amd. # /etc/rc.d/amd status amd is running as pid 23091. I'd like to rebuild amd without having to rebuild world as well, although I'll do that if I have to. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 20:39:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD6A1065670 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7FD8FC1F for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1M2tK7-000594-CZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:39:07 +0000 Received: from pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.147.11]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:39:07 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:39:07 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:40:23 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 20:39:08 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > I have a problem with amd. It's not working right, and I don't think I > can fix it without rebuilding it. [snip] > > I'd like to rebuild amd without having to rebuild world as well, although > I'll do that if I have to. > [...] I think you can just cd to /usr/src/sys/modules/amd and do: make obj && make depend && make && make install to rebuild the kernel module by itself. For the userland side it would be cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd and make obj && make depend && make && make install I think. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 20:44:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7931065674 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC5F8FC16 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1M2tPL-0005MR-Hf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:44:31 +0000 Received: from pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.147.11]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:44:31 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:44:31 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:45:43 -0400 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-147-11.washdc.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 20:44:32 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> I have a problem with amd. It's not working right, and I don't think I >> can fix it without rebuilding it. > [snip] >> >> I'd like to rebuild amd without having to rebuild world as well, although >> I'll do that if I have to. >> > [...] > > For the userland side it would be cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd and ^^^^ OOPs - make that: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd typo on me > make obj && make depend && make && make install > -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 21:13:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491A7106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153918FC0A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98B67E83F; Sat, 9 May 2009 13:13:46 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pieter Donche Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 23:13:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905092313.45418.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Derek Ragona Subject: Re: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:13:48 -0000 On Saturday 09 May 2009 15:09:45 Pieter Donche wrote: > case DHCP server DHCP client HOSTNAME env. var. > > 1 isc-dhcp30-server FreeBSD7-i386 not set > on FreeBSD-amd64 > 2 isc-dhcp30-server SuSE Linux 10.3 set > on FreeBSD-amd64 > > 3 some DHCP server FreeBSD7-i386 set > on unkown serverOS > 4 some DHCP server SuSE Linux 10.3 set > on unkown serverOS Judging from this, you have a hostname set in /etc/rc.conf on freebsd 7 client and/or dhcpd isn't configured to send one as it receives one from the client and perhaps you have dynamic DNS configured? If that's not the case, then you should add some debugging to /sbin/dhclient- script in the check_hostname function. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 21:22:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F317106564A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0901D8FC0C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090509212243231.PKLN19662@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:22:43 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:22:41 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:22:44 -0000 --On May 9, 2009 3:40:23 PM -0500 Michael Powell wrote: > > Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> I have a problem with amd. It's not working right, and I don't think I >> can fix it without rebuilding it. > [snip] >> >> I'd like to rebuild amd without having to rebuild world as well, >> although I'll do that if I have to. >> > [...] > > I think you can just cd to /usr/src/sys/modules/amd and do: > > make obj && make depend && make && make install to rebuild the kernel > module by itself. > > For the userland side it would be cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd and > > make obj && make depend && make && make install > > I think. Thanks. That worked (with the correction you posted later), but I still have the same problem. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 21:37:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A48106564A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3C38FC1D for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M2uEb-0004av-9V; Sat, 09 May 2009 22:37:29 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n49LbSOS021013; Sat, 9 May 2009 22:37:28 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3A423FCA699; Sat, 9 May 2009 22:37:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 22:37:23 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Fabian Krook Message-ID: <20090509213723.GA83617@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Fabian Krook , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 09 May 2009 22:37:28 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:37:34 -0000 On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 08:35:43PM +0200, Fabian Krook wrote: > > When i try to do ex X -configure it tell me that there are no Driver and > then create xorg.conf.new which have the driver. But when i tries to use X > -config xorg.conf.new it will just go into a blank screen and can only be > terminated through kill command. (Have installed the ATI radeon Driver) Any > clue? Check that the ATI Radeon driver supports your card. pciconf(8) and the manpage for the ATI driver should help. It sounds like it's working (bare X no longer has the hatch screen) so it might be worth trying to launch an xterm & wm through ~/.xinitrc assuming you use startx. You need the line: Option "DontZap" "off" in: Section "ServerLayout" of your xorg.conf in order to kill X with ctl-alt-backspace. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 21:44:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E171065673 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7968FC1F for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (90.227.65.237) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u43111868) id 49CCDA07006732A7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 May 2009 22:34:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4A05E8C2.2010105@telia.com> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:34:10 +0200 From: Roger Olofsson <240olofsson@telia.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Tips & Trix: Eclipse on 7.1 STABLE and swt-gtk issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: raggen@raggens.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:44:16 -0000 Dear mailing list, I don't know if anyone has noticed or if it's my machine having stale ports but it seems that to make eclipse 3.4.1 working on FreeBSD 7.1 STABLE with diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_4 you need to do the following: Do _not_ make clean until you have made: cp /usr/ports/java/eclipse/work/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk.freebsd.x86/gtk/library/libswt* /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/i386/client/ It seems like make install builds the swt-gtk:s but that the .jar somehow 'misses' adding them in. /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 21:49:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C53A106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C018FC19 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n49LnaRA084058 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 9 May 2009 14:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n49LnaPJ084057; Sat, 9 May 2009 14:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA09392; Sat, 9 May 09 14:45:15 PDT Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 14:45:07 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: onemda@gmail.com Message-Id: <4a05f963.OI3CMfJ3/j2hbi4D%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to fix "interrupt storm" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:49:38 -0000 "Paul B. Mahol" wrote: > On 5/8/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it? ... > > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > > interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source > > ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51 error=4 > > ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936 > > > > etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C. (Just entering "q", to cause > > more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not > > stop the spew of messages.) > > > > What does this indicate? Hardware problems? Bad configuration? > > Something else? > > Output of "vmstat -i"? $ vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq0: clk 497386851 1004 irq1: atkbd0 2491 0 irq3: xl0 2030 0 irq6: fdc0 11 0 irq7: ppbus0 ppc0 1 0 irq8: rtc 63654324 128 irq9: uhci0+ 166216 0 irq14: ata0 369620 0 irq15: ata1 691 0 Total 561582235 1133 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 21:52:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A7D106566B for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9DE8FC19 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090509215213657.KIMB17201@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:52:13 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:52:11 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <59F581887B7A3CF91A4510E9@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: References: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:52:15 -0000 --On May 9, 2009 3:45:43 PM -0500 Michael Powell wrote: >>> >> [...] >> >> For the userland side it would be cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd and > ^^^^ > OOPs - make that: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd typo on me > >> make obj && make depend && make && make install >> There are two related files in /boot/kernel: # ls -lsa /boot/kernel/amd.ko* 24 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24414 May 9 16:37 /boot/kernel/amd.ko 78 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 79484 May 6 12:36 /boot/kernel/amd.ko.symbols The amd.ko.symbols file was created when I upgraded to 7.2 last Wednesday. What creates that file? And how do I update it? Could it be the cause of the problem? All the other related files were updated today. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 21:53:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7A51065670 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nevadadirren@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73F18FC08 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 21:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nevadadirren@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f33so1078882fkf.11 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AN7VAX9KH8f9JT2pza2jwv9uKAdtk0FC5rdGlhPj5FQ=; b=W/NwjKap71f1Bx11NSGw1KwUzE58/glbATgL5FyDJeUuABVrXbqHAprfN0JUhnf0nL aFfPGPVq5KInFZ/2gY2DCTVQBFDtrTZF1hCuGOIPs9+N6aoG/VXVDRwzLiyfP5Jb6tc3 JiEjqkBS8GqVaUU7UYzy80718FY/OObScl5z0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Mq9WEb3W8sRTo33Vwyryl4CsNvy+YMUocQpnxZ+/P3kWamNWDx2UVXYCSvi+hPXIIo RjVq0ynSwd2lV49zKHggdvcDAK2JiTnBqYeAOszEKiF/UTKMh4p7PNKUuU0kB2a1mKar yyVvjcD/jOs4ROgOkxll0rVaDkhDO187W71o0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.114.135 with SMTP id e7mr2393759faq.89.1241906012947; Sat, 09 May 2009 14:53:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090509213723.GA83617@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com> <20090509213723.GA83617@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 23:53:32 +0200 Message-ID: <50f801fe0905091453yf2147e4v6343d134d9c34306@mail.gmail.com> From: Fabian Krook To: Frank Shute , Fabian Krook , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:53:35 -0000 I see, well i have done that in xorg.conf.new file (snice it didn't create any xorg.conf) the ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't seems to work even with X -config xorg.conf.new. 2009/5/9 Frank Shute > On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 08:35:43PM +0200, Fabian Krook wrote: > > > > When i try to do ex X -configure it tell me that there are no Driver and > > then create xorg.conf.new which have the driver. But when i tries to use > X > > -config xorg.conf.new it will just go into a blank screen and can only be > > terminated through kill command. (Have installed the ATI radeon Driver) > Any > > clue? > > Check that the ATI Radeon driver supports your card. pciconf(8) and > the manpage for the ATI driver should help. > > It sounds like it's working (bare X no longer has the hatch screen) > so it might be worth trying to launch an xterm & wm through ~/.xinitrc > assuming you use startx. > > You need the line: > > Option "DontZap" "off" > > in: > > Section "ServerLayout" > > of your xorg.conf in order to kill X with ctl-alt-backspace. > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 22:54:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C08106566C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 22:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F988FC15 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 22:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id n49MsUl3067134 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:54:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CD38A04F for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:54:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id CAFEB15; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:54:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:54:28 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090509225428.GA18943@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Sun, 10 May 2009 00:54:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9223/Fri Apr 10 16:54:59 2009 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4A0609A6.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4A0609A6.001/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 4A0609A6.001 on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.014 -> S=0.014 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: Re: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:54:32 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > The amd.ko.symbols file was created when I upgraded to 7.2 last > Wednesday. What creates that file? And how do I update it? Could it > be the cause of the problem? The amd.ko kernel module has nothing to do with the automounter. It is a device driver for some hardware (man 4 amd). As for your config file, it seems fine at first sight, but perhaps there are some "invisible" characters in it causing problems. The syntax is explained in man amd.conf -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 23:10:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E051065670 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 23:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729A48FC0C for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 23:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFA750A91 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:10:09 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AVAOFl6S8ESK for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:10:04 +0100 (BST) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 13EC550A7B; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:10:03 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090509231004.13EC550A7B@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:10:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-05-09 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 23:10:10 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 9 23:49:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649AA106564A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 23:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0A98FC13 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 23:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [66.25.23.135]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090509234956335.MGAA17201@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 23:49:56 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 18:49:55 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <88A443E2BCA8F51F7DC9DD55@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: <20090509225428.GA18943@lpthe.jussieu.fr> References: <20090509225428.GA18943@lpthe.jussieu.fr> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 23:49:57 -0000 --On May 9, 2009 5:54:28 PM -0500 Michel Talon wrote: > > Paul Schmehl wrote: >> The amd.ko.symbols file was created when I upgraded to 7.2 last >> Wednesday. What creates that file? And how do I update it? Could it >> be the cause of the problem? > > The amd.ko kernel module has nothing to do with the automounter. It is a > device driver for some hardware (man 4 amd). > > As for your config file, it seems fine at first sight, but perhaps there > are some "invisible" characters in it causing problems. The syntax is > explained in > man amd.conf > Thanks. I moved the amd.conf file to amd.conf.bak and created a new one. Amd still thinks there's a problem: # amd -F /etc/amd.conf AMDCONF: syntax error on line 2 (section global) # cat /etc/amd.conf # GLOBAL OPTIONS SECTION [global] I think I'm going to csup sources again and rebuild world. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying