From owner-cvs-etc Sun Jul 30 03:22:30 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA02522 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:22:30 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA02500 ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:22:08 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA14933; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:20:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:20:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199507301020.DAA14933@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@haywire.dialix.com CC: ache@astral.msk.su, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-etc@freefall.cdrom.com In-reply-to: (message from Peter Wemm on Sun, 30 Jul 1995 00:49:21 +0800 (WST)) Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Dont forget.. identd **can** be run standalone from a command prompt.. * It has three modes of operation, one for running under inetd in nowait * mode, one for running under inetd in wait mode (great!:-) and one for * running as it's own server where it binds to the port itself and runs. * * That's why it's not clear-cut that it is a libexec thing... Ok, if it can be run from the command line, sbin is fine. Thanks.... Satoshi From owner-cvs-etc Sun Jul 30 05:56:34 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA06700 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 05:56:34 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA06689 ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 05:56:28 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 05:56:28 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199507301256.FAA06689@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-etc Subject: cvs commit: src/etc/etc.i386 MAKEDEV Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/07/30 05:56:28 Modified: etc/etc.i386 MAKEDEV Log: Fix the mknod for spigot. From owner-cvs-etc Sun Jul 30 06:02:16 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA07179 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 06:02:16 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA07158 ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 06:01:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 06:01:44 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199507301301.GAA07158@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-etc Subject: cvs commit: src/etc/etc.i386 MAKEDEV Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/07/30 06:01:44 Branch: etc/etc.i386 RELENG_2_1_0 Modified: etc/etc.i386 MAKEDEV Log: Pull in my fix from the HEAD. From owner-cvs-etc Tue Aug 1 06:15:57 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA23769 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 06:15:57 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA23759 ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 06:15:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 06:15:54 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199508011315.GAA23759@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-etc Subject: cvs commit: src/etc/etc.i386 MAKEDEV Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/08/01 06:15:54 Modified: etc/etc.i386 MAKEDEV Log: Add device support for the Matrox Meteor. Submitted by: james From owner-cvs-etc Tue Aug 1 19:45:57 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA25006 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 19:45:57 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA24982 ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 19:45:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 19:45:49 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199508020245.TAA24982@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-etc Subject: cvs commit: src/etc gettytab Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/08/01 19:45:48 Modified: etc gettytab Log: Remove top secret version information from the banner by default. Loose lips sink ships! Man the firewall and look alert! From owner-cvs-etc Wed Aug 2 01:04:43 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA22547 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:04:43 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA22526 ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:04:30 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA06569; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:04:18 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199508020804.BAA06569@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc gettytab To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-etc@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199508020245.TAA24982@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Aug 1, 95 07:45:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1159 Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > jkh 95/08/01 19:45:48 > > Modified: etc gettytab > Log: > Remove top secret version information from the banner by default. > Loose lips sink ships! Man the firewall and look alert! Your claimed reason for the original change here is bogus anyway. The system clearly identifies itself once you login: gndrsh# telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.aac.dev.com. Escape character is '^]'. FreeBSD (gndrsh.aac.dev.com) (ttyp7) login: rgrimes Password: Aug 2 01:01:29 gndrsh login: login from localhost as rgrimes Last login: Tue Aug 1 13:15:02 from localhost Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE (GNDRSH) #0: Thu Jul 27 12:18:30 1995 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Welcome to FreeBSD! You have mail. Due to lack of disk space, this fortune database has been discontinued. gndrsh:rgrimes {101} -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-cvs-etc Wed Aug 2 01:12:35 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA23337 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:12:35 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA23330 ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:12:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA02227; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:12:18 -0700 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-etc@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc gettytab In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 1995 01:04:18 PDT." <199508020804.BAA06569@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 01:12:18 -0700 Message-ID: <2224.807351138@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Your claimed reason for the original change here is bogus anyway. > The system clearly identifies itself once you login: > > FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE (GNDRSH) #0: Thu Jul 27 12:18:30 1995 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Bzzt! That's only if you let it beat out your /etc/motd for you, not if you maintain your own. It also misses the point. Those that desire this change can now quickly check the version of a machine without even having to log into it. You just connect and say "ah". Jordan From owner-cvs-etc Wed Aug 2 02:48:46 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id CAA26379 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 02:48:46 -0700 Received: from server.netcraft.co.uk (server.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA26373 ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 02:48:38 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by server.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA12549; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:47:12 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199508020947.KAA12549@server.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc gettytab To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:47:12 +0100 (BST) Cc: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, jkh@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-etc@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <2224.807351138@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Aug 2, 95 01:12:18 am Reply-to: paul@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1648 Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who said > > > Your claimed reason for the original change here is bogus anyway. > > The system clearly identifies itself once you login: > > > > FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE (GNDRSH) #0: Thu Jul 27 12:18:30 1995 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Bzzt! > > That's only if you let it beat out your /etc/motd for you, not if you > maintain your own. It also misses the point. Those that desire this > change can now quickly check the version of a machine without even > having to log into it. You just connect and say "ah". > I'm against thist change too. Strangely enough we just had a similar discussion on the apache development list about this. Announcing info without authentication is BAD. Why the burning need to go *adding* rope for inexperienced to hang themselves? I'd like to hear just one valid reason for announcing anything other than the hostname before a login? Why do you need to see anything before you login, if you have an account there a re a myriad ways to find out the same info, the ONLY other possible reason would be if you were randomly connecting to sites trying to find an OS with holes. We simply shouldn't even provide that functionality. Yes, people can leave wide open accounts if they're inexperienced but there's no easy way to ship a system that's already secure but I seen no reason to add knobs that allow inexperienced admins to make the system less secure. -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home) From owner-cvs-etc Wed Aug 2 03:36:12 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA29695 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 03:36:12 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA29682 ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 03:36:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA02896; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 03:35:57 -0700 To: paul@freebsd.org cc: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, jkh@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-etc@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc gettytab In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 1995 10:47:12 BST." <199508020947.KAA12549@server.netcraft.co.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 03:35:56 -0700 Message-ID: <2893.807359756@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Announcing info without authentication is BAD. Why the burning need > to go *adding* rope for inexperienced to hang themselves? I'd like > to hear just one valid reason for announcing anything other than > the hostname before a login? Why do you need to see anything before So that I can see the version of a machine without having to log in on it. Exactly that. Jordan From owner-cvs-etc Wed Aug 2 15:26:44 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA03568 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:26:44 -0700 Received: (from pst@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA03558 ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:26:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:26:40 -0700 From: Paul Traina Message-Id: <199508022226.PAA03558@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-etc Subject: cvs commit: src/etc services Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk pst 95/08/02 15:26:39 Modified: etc services Log: Add krb_prop entry. From owner-cvs-etc Thu Aug 3 17:01:31 1995 Return-Path: cvs-etc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA08471 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 17:01:31 -0700 Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA08461 ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 17:01:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 17:01:26 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Message-Id: <199508040001.RAA08461@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-etc Subject: cvs commit: src/etc services Sender: cvs-etc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ache 95/08/03 17:01:25 Modified: etc services Log: Since krb_prob conflicts with registered tell protocol, mark tell section with #PROBLEMS comment