From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 00:02:09 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA07739 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:02:09 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA07733 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:02:06 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA05170; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:02:06 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:02:06 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504090702.AAA05170@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/09 00:02:05 Modified: share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ Log: Document that flags 0x1 is required on fdc0 line to make ft0 work. Also please note that previous commit regarding UH24F controller was misattributed to Poul - it was Steve's! Submitted by: Steve Gerakines From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 01:47:19 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA12250 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 01:47:19 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA12237 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 01:47:02 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA28719; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 01:45:47 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA11831; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 18:40:51 +1000 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 18:40:51 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504090840.SAA11831@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Modified: share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ > Log: > Document that flags 0x1 is required on fdc0 line to make ft0 work. > Also please note that previous commit regarding UH24F controller was > misattributed to Poul - it was Steve's! > Submitted by: Steve Gerakines This should be fixed properly before it becomes a FAWrongQ. Drivers should be disabled by setting id_enabled to 1, not by setting some driver-dependent flag to 1. There is currently no way to specify the id_enabled flag in config. Bruce From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 02:37:53 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA14327 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:37:53 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA14317 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:37:43 -0700 Received: from freefall.cdrom.com (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA19710; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:37:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA14117 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:34:53 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Bruce Evans cc: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Apr 95 18:40:51 +1000." <199504090840.SAA11831@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 02:34:52 -0700 Message-ID: <14115.797420092@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > This should be fixed properly before it becomes a FAWrongQ. Drivers > should be disabled by setting id_enabled to 1, not by setting some > driver-dependent flag to 1. And how do you propose to do that for fdc0 in a way that will leave your floppies working? :-) Jordan From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 02:54:35 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA14968 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:54:35 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA14956 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:54:24 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA21659; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:54:21 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id CAA18087; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:52:35 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199504090952.CAA18087@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com, jkh@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <14115.797420092@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Apr 9, 95 02:34:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 603 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > This should be fixed properly before it becomes a FAWrongQ. Drivers > > should be disabled by setting id_enabled to 1, not by setting some > > driver-dependent flag to 1. > > And how do you propose to do that for fdc0 in a way that will leave > your floppies working? :-) This may be fixed, supposidly part of those patches that I have commited to ft.c from Steve fixes that problem. It should be tested by a lot of folks first though. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 03:00:01 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA15216 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:00:01 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA15187 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:59:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 02:59:44 -0700 From: Satoshi Asami Message-Id: <199504090959.CAA15187@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.port.mk Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk asami 95/04/09 02:59:44 Modified: share/mk bsd.port.mk Log: Add support for categorized subdirectories for packages. By default, all .tgz files go to /usr/ports/packages/.packages, and a relative symlink is created for every item in CATEGORIES...i.e., if "CATEGORIES = foo bar", then /usr/ports/packages/{foo,bar}/pkgname.tgz both point to /usr/ports/packages/.packages/pkgname.tgz. Suggested by: jkh From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 03:24:37 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA16080 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:24:37 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA16054 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:24:17 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA02307; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:24:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:24:16 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504091024.DAA02307@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.port.mk Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/09 03:24:14 Modified: share/mk bsd.port.mk Log: 1. Fix the first line (should be a proper comment - silly emacs). 2. KEYWORDS+= CATEGORIES 3. CATEGORIES+= all (always want to be in "all"!) From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 03:31:57 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA16434 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:31:57 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA16417 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:31:36 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA07521; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:30:46 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA13924; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:24:41 +1000 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:24:41 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504091024.UAA13924@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jkh@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ Cc: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com, jkh@freebsd.org Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> This should be fixed properly before it becomes a FAWrongQ. Drivers >> should be disabled by setting id_enabled to 1, not by setting some >> driver-dependent flag to 1. >And how do you propose to do that for fdc0 in a way that will leave >your floppies working? :-) Hmmm.. The fd and wd drivers need to be fixed. They forget to look at the id_enable flag in their biotabs. Bruce From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 03:34:20 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA16542 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:34:20 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA16536 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:34:14 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA08611; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:34:12 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA06093; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:34:02 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:34:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199504091034.DAA06093@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@freebsd.org CC: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com In-reply-to: <199504091024.DAA02307@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.port.mk From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * 1. Fix the first line (should be a proper comment - silly emacs). * 2. KEYWORDS+= CATEGORIES * 3. CATEGORIES+= all (always want to be in "all"!) Oops...thanks Jordan! :) Satoshi From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 03:59:44 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA16991 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:59:44 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA16984 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:59:31 -0700 Received: from freefall.cdrom.com (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA16338; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:59:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA16923 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:54:04 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Bruce Evans cc: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Apr 95 20:24:41 +1000." <199504091024.UAA13924@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 03:54:00 -0700 Message-ID: <16921.797424840@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >> This should be fixed properly before it becomes a FAWrongQ. Drivers > >> should be disabled by setting id_enabled to 1, not by setting some > >> driver-dependent flag to 1. > > >And how do you propose to do that for fdc0 in a way that will leave > >your floppies working? :-) > > Hmmm.. The fd and wd drivers need to be fixed. They forget to look at > the id_enable flag in their biotabs. So you're saying that I should be able to set the id_enabled flag on ft0 and the floppy controller code can selectively disable only that device, yes? Why isn't id_enabled more aptly named "id_disabled"? :-) Jordan From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 04:42:13 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA18559 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:42:13 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA18552 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:42:01 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA28484; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:38:49 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA15411; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:32:19 +1000 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:32:19 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504091132.VAA15411@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jkh@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ Cc: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com, jkh@freebsd.org Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> Hmmm.. The fd and wd drivers need to be fixed. They forget to look at >> the id_enable flag in their biotabs. >So you're saying that I should be able to set the id_enabled flag on >ft0 and the floppy controller code can selectively disable only that >device, yes? This should work. >Why isn't id_enabled more aptly named "id_disabled"? :-) I think because someone named jkh named it :-). I think positive logic flags are better, however... I once named beelyuns of flags with negative logic to make 0-initialization give the right defaults, but I thought better of it after maintaining it for a while. Bruce From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 05:28:21 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA19359 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 05:28:21 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA19352 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 05:28:03 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA23843; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 05:28:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 05:28:03 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504091228.FAA23843@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.port.mk Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/09 05:28:02 Modified: share/mk bsd.port.mk Log: Add 2 new targets to facilitate some things I'm thinking about. 1. package-name Simply echos the associated package name for a port (if any). 2. package-depends Shows all package names on which this port depends. From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 08:01:02 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA23470 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:01:02 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23462 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:00:58 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA23040; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:00:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:00:58 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504091500.IAA23040@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.port.mk Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/09 08:00:57 Modified: share/mk bsd.port.mk Log: Add new -P argument to pkg_create. From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 08:50:01 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA25228 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:50:01 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA25215 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:49:49 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA29147; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:49:49 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:49:49 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504091549.IAA29147@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 matcd.4 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/09 08:49:48 Added: share/man/man4/man4.i386 matcd.4 Log: A new man page for the matcd driver. Submitted by: Frank Durda IV From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 08:55:30 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA25433 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:55:30 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA25427 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:55:24 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA00225; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:55:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:55:23 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504091555.IAA00225@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/09 08:55:23 Modified: share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile Log: Add matcd.4 to list of manpages. From owner-cvs-share Sun Apr 9 19:36:39 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA25887 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:36:39 -0700 Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA25875 ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:36:28 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:36:28 -0700 From: John Fieber Message-Id: <199504100236.TAA25875@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML authors.sgml m_ctm.sgml m_current.sgml m_dialup.sgml m_diskless.sgml m_kerberos.sgml m_nfs.sgml m_porting.sgml m_ports.sgml m_ppp.sgml m_scsi.sgml m_slip_c.sgml m_slip_s.sgml m_submitters.sgml m_sup.sgml m_troubleshooting.sgml adminman.sgml userman.sgml Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jfieber 95/04/09 19:36:27 Modified: share/FAQ/HTML adminman-2.html adminman-3.html adminman-4.html adminman-5.html adminman-6.html adminman-7.html adminman-8.html adminman-9.html adminman.html userman-1.html userman-4.html userman-5.html userman-6.html userman-7.html userman.html share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml userman.sgml Added: share/FAQ/HTML adminman-10.html adminman-11.html userman-10.html userman-11.html userman-12.html userman-13.html userman-14.html userman-15.html userman-8.html userman-9.html share/FAQ/SGML authors.sgml m_ctm.sgml m_current.sgml m_dialup.sgml m_diskless.sgml m_kerberos.sgml m_nfs.sgml m_porting.sgml m_ports.sgml m_ppp.sgml m_scsi.sgml m_slip_c.sgml m_slip_s.sgml m_submitters.sgml m_sup.sgml m_troubleshooting.sgml Log: The first wave of sucking tutorials and other stray documents into the skeletal user/admin manual. In the SGML directory, files beginning with "m_" are part of either the user or admin manual (which may eventually be merged into document with two parts). No new documentation is represented in this commit. Names of the original authors of all files have been maintained and appear at the beginning of the relevant sections. Much work remains to be done in the areas of: 1) relevance-to-current-reality checking 2) cross referencing 3) consistency in the ue of the DTD 4) consistency in style From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 01:09:35 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA02717 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 01:09:35 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA02703 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 01:09:25 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA11633; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 01:09:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 01:09:25 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504100809.BAA11633@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.port.mk Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/10 01:09:24 Modified: share/mk bsd.port.mk Log: Don't pass duplicate pkgdeps to pkg_create From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 07:01:59 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA00223 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:01:59 -0700 Received: from isl.cf.ac.uk (isl-gate.elsy.cf.ac.uk [131.251.22.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA00214 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:01:26 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by isl.cf.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA25249; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:00:29 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199504101400.PAA25249@isl.cf.ac.uk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com (John Fieber) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:00:29 +0100 (BST) Cc: CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504061600.JAA00724@freefall.cdrom.com> from "John Fieber" at Apr 6, 95 09:00:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2790 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to John Fieber who said > > jfieber 95/04/06 09:00:54 > > Added: share/FAQ help.html index.html tutorials.html > Log: > The skeletal framework for the FreeBSD help system. Point a WWW > browser at index.html to see how it works. Ultimately what currently > lives in the tutorials section will become the User and Admin manual > sections. > > Added: share/FAQ/HTML SCSI-1.html SCSI-2.html SCSI-3.html > SCSI-4.html SCSI-5.html SCSI.html adminman-1.html > adminman-2.html adminman-3.html adminman-4.html > adminman-5.html adminman-6.html adminman-7.html > adminman-8.html adminman-9.html adminman.html > ctm-1.html ctm-2.html ctm-3.html ctm-4.html > ctm-5.html ctm-6.html ctm-7.html ctm-8.html > ctm.html dialup-1.html dialup-2.html dialup-3.html > dialup-4.html dialup-5.html dialup-6.html > dialup-7.html dialup-8.html dialup-9.html > dialup.html freebsd-faq-1.html freebsd-faq-10.html > freebsd-faq-11.html freebsd-faq-2.html > freebsd-faq-3.html freebsd-faq-4.html > freebsd-faq-5.html freebsd-faq-6.html > freebsd-faq-7.html freebsd-faq-8.html > freebsd-faq-9.html freebsd-faq.html > infosources-1.html infosources-2.html > infosources.html refman-1.html refman-2.html > refman.html slip_server-1.html slip_server-2.html > slip_server-3.html slip_server-4.html > slip_server-5.html slip_server-6.html > slip_server-7.html slip_server.html userman-1.html > userman-2.html userman-3.html userman-4.html > userman-5.html userman.html > Log: > HTML versions of the SGML documents. These are intended to be > accessed through the index.html file in the parent directroy. > > Added: share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml refman.sgml > userman.sgml This is very bad. If there's no way to automatically generate the HTML files from the SGML sources during *installation* then we'll have to re-think the whole setup. This will just lead to inconsistencies between the two formats and wastes a lot of space. -- Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, URL: http://isl.cf.ac.uk/~paul/ Phone: +44 1222 874000 x6646 (work), +44 1222 457651 (home) Dept. Mechanical Engineering, University of Wales, College Cardiff. From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 08:09:34 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA00223 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:01:59 -0700 Received: from isl.cf.ac.uk (isl-gate.elsy.cf.ac.uk [131.251.22.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA00214 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:01:26 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by isl.cf.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA25249; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:00:29 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199504101400.PAA25249@isl.cf.ac.uk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com (John Fieber) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:00:29 +0100 (BST) Cc: CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504061600.JAA00724@freefall.cdrom.com> from "John Fieber" at Apr 6, 95 09:00:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2790 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to John Fieber who said > > jfieber 95/04/06 09:00:54 > > Added: share/FAQ help.html index.html tutorials.html > Log: > The skeletal framework for the FreeBSD help system. Point a WWW > browser at index.html to see how it works. Ultimately what currently > lives in the tutorials section will become the User and Admin manual > sections. > > Added: share/FAQ/HTML SCSI-1.html SCSI-2.html SCSI-3.html > SCSI-4.html SCSI-5.html SCSI.html adminman-1.html > adminman-2.html adminman-3.html adminman-4.html > adminman-5.html adminman-6.html adminman-7.html > adminman-8.html adminman-9.html adminman.html > ctm-1.html ctm-2.html ctm-3.html ctm-4.html > ctm-5.html ctm-6.html ctm-7.html ctm-8.html > ctm.html dialup-1.html dialup-2.html dialup-3.html > dialup-4.html dialup-5.html dialup-6.html > dialup-7.html dialup-8.html dialup-9.html > dialup.html freebsd-faq-1.html freebsd-faq-10.html > freebsd-faq-11.html freebsd-faq-2.html > freebsd-faq-3.html freebsd-faq-4.html > freebsd-faq-5.html freebsd-faq-6.html > freebsd-faq-7.html freebsd-faq-8.html > freebsd-faq-9.html freebsd-faq.html > infosources-1.html infosources-2.html > infosources.html refman-1.html refman-2.html > refman.html slip_server-1.html slip_server-2.html > slip_server-3.html slip_server-4.html > slip_server-5.html slip_server-6.html > slip_server-7.html slip_server.html userman-1.html > userman-2.html userman-3.html userman-4.html > userman-5.html userman.html > Log: > HTML versions of the SGML documents. These are intended to be > accessed through the index.html file in the parent directroy. > > Added: share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml refman.sgml > userman.sgml This is very bad. If there's no way to automatically generate the HTML files from the SGML sources during *installation* then we'll have to re-think the whole setup. This will just lead to inconsistencies between the two formats and wastes a lot of space. -- Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, URL: http://isl.cf.ac.uk/~paul/ Phone: +44 1222 874000 x6646 (work), +44 1222 457651 (home) Dept. Mechanical Engineering, University of Wales, College Cardiff. From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 10:32:46 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA12938 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:32:46 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA12932 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:32:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA08267; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:27:16 -0400 From: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199504101727.NAA08267@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504101400.PAA25249@isl.cf.ac.uk> from "Paul Richards" at Apr 10, 95 03:00:29 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1041 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Paul Richards writes: > > Log: > > HTML versions of the SGML documents. These are intended to be > > accessed through the index.html file in the parent directroy. > This is very bad. If there's no way to automatically generate the HTML > files from the SGML sources during *installation* then we'll have to > re-think the whole setup. This will just lead to inconsistencies between the > two formats and wastes a lot of space. Indeed. Having it build during the install involves to pieces that are not in the tree: 1) Sgmls and sgmlsasp: an sgml parser. This is an easy out-of-the-box compile. 2) The linuxdoc DTD, asp replacemet files and the sgmlformat perl script. There is a fair amount of cruft to be removed from this before anybody would let it near. One binary is involved but I plan to absorb its functionality in the perl script. -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ================================================ =================================== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 12:13:32 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA20022 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:13:32 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA20009 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:13:27 -0700 Received: from isl.cf.ac.uk (isl-gate.elsy.cf.ac.uk [131.251.22.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA29745; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:13:18 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by isl.cf.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA26329; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:09:42 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199504101909.UAA26329@isl.cf.ac.uk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text FreeBSD.FAQ To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:09:42 +0100 (BST) Cc: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com, bde@zeta.org.au, CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com, jkh@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199504090952.CAA18087@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Apr 9, 95 02:52:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 996 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Rodney W. Grimes who said > > > > > > This should be fixed properly before it becomes a FAWrongQ. Drivers > > > should be disabled by setting id_enabled to 1, not by setting some > > > driver-dependent flag to 1. > > > > And how do you propose to do that for fdc0 in a way that will leave > > your floppies working? :-) > > This may be fixed, supposidly part of those patches that I have commited > to ft.c from Steve fixes that problem. It should be tested by a lot > of folks first though. I was one of the people suffering from thsi and the new code works fine. We may well have fixed this properly and we might be able to obfuscate the flag. I think the tape should be enable by default from now on so we can actually test this. -- Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, URL: http://isl.cf.ac.uk/~paul/ Phone: +44 1222 874000 x6646 (work), +44 1222 457651 (home) Dept. Mechanical Engineering, University of Wales, College Cardiff. From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 12:59:53 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA25514 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:59:53 -0700 Received: from isl.cf.ac.uk (isl-gate.elsy.cf.ac.uk [131.251.22.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA25481 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:59:31 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by isl.cf.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA26603; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:59:42 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199504101959.UAA26603@isl.cf.ac.uk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:59:42 +0100 (BST) Cc: jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504101727.NAA08267@grendel.csc.smith.edu> from "John Fieber" at Apr 10, 95 01:27:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1709 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to John Fieber who said > > Paul Richards writes: > > > Log: > > > HTML versions of the SGML documents. These are intended to be > > > accessed through the index.html file in the parent directroy. > > > This is very bad. If there's no way to automatically generate the HTML > > files from the SGML sources during *installation* then we'll have to > > re-think the whole setup. This will just lead to inconsistencies between the > > two formats and wastes a lot of space. > > Indeed. Having it build during the install involves to pieces > that are not in the tree: > > 1) Sgmls and sgmlsasp: an sgml parser. This is an easy > out-of-the-box compile. > > 2) The linuxdoc DTD, asp replacemet files and the sgmlformat > perl script. There is a fair amount of cruft to be removed > from this before anybody would let it near. One binary > is involved but I plan to absorb its functionality in > the perl script. Please spend time doing this. The extra cruft you've added to the cvs tree WILL NEVER GO AWAY! >From now until the end of FreeBSD's existence I'm going to have X Mb of disk space taken up by html files that we shouldn't have in the tree because even when you implement the proper mechanism those html files will hang around in the attic. Rod, can we just nuke the html area from the repository completely and pretend this never happened since as yet we've not release anything that depends on this. -- Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, URL: http://isl.cf.ac.uk/~paul/ Phone: +44 1222 874000 x6646 (work), +44 1222 457651 (home) Dept. Mechanical Engineering, University of Wales, College Cardiff. From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 13:11:33 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA26596 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:11:33 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA26556 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:11:22 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id NAA00435; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:10:59 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199504102010.NAA00435@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jfieber@cs.smith.edu, jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504101959.UAA26603@isl.cf.ac.uk> from "Paul Richards" at Apr 10, 95 08:59:42 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1380 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > 1) Sgmls and sgmlsasp: an sgml parser. This is an easy > > out-of-the-box compile. > > > > 2) The linuxdoc DTD, asp replacemet files and the sgmlformat > > perl script. There is a fair amount of cruft to be removed > > from this before anybody would let it near. One binary > > is involved but I plan to absorb its functionality in > > the perl script. > > Please spend time doing this. > > The extra cruft you've added to the cvs tree WILL NEVER GO AWAY! Cool down Paul. Just now I think many of us are in favour of any kind of doc, no matter what bloat it adds to the tree, as compared to having no doc at all. > >From now until the end of FreeBSD's existence I'm going to have X Mb of > disk space taken up by html files that we shouldn't have in the tree because > even when you implement the proper mechanism those html files will hang > around in the attic. We will probably have to do regular cleans of the CVSROOT anyway, so don't get your blood pressure too high yet... > Rod, can we just nuke the html area from the repository completely and > pretend this never happened since as yet we've not release anything that > depends on this. Don't. -- Poul-Henning Kamp -- TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 'All relevant people are pertinent' && 'All rude people are impertinent' => 'no rude people are relevant' From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 13:20:07 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA27479 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:20:07 -0700 Received: from isl.cf.ac.uk (isl-gate.elsy.cf.ac.uk [131.251.22.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA27431 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:19:37 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by isl.cf.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA26767; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:19:30 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199504102019.VAA26767@isl.cf.ac.uk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: phk@ref.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:19:29 +0100 (BST) Cc: jfieber@cs.smith.edu, jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504102010.NAA00435@ref.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Apr 10, 95 01:10:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2170 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Poul-Henning Kamp who said > > > > 1) Sgmls and sgmlsasp: an sgml parser. This is an easy > > > out-of-the-box compile. > > > > > > 2) The linuxdoc DTD, asp replacemet files and the sgmlformat > > > perl script. There is a fair amount of cruft to be removed > > > from this before anybody would let it near. One binary > > > is involved but I plan to absorb its functionality in > > > the perl script. > > > > Please spend time doing this. > > > > The extra cruft you've added to the cvs tree WILL NEVER GO AWAY! > > Cool down Paul. Hey man, I'm always cool :-) > > Just now I think many of us are in favour of any kind of doc, no matter > what bloat it adds to the tree, as compared to having no doc at all. But this is a silly argument. I'm all in favour of getting the docs but there's little extra work involved in writing it in SGML rather than HTML. It doesn't solve the underlying problem at all, we can't provide LaTeX versions of these docs or anything else. I'd rather see them written in SGML and at some point before release one of use will have to sit down and port the conversion tools. Doing it this way means no-one will ever have the incentive to fix the underlying problem and we'll end up being stuck with it this way. > > > >From now until the end of FreeBSD's existence I'm going to have X Mb of > > disk space taken up by html files that we shouldn't have in the tree because > > even when you implement the proper mechanism those html files will hang > > around in the attic. > > We will probably have to do regular cleans of the CVSROOT anyway, so don't > get your blood pressure too high yet... We can't do that, not without totally buggering up any chance of checking out previous releases. We *can* do this with the required surgery between tags though. If it's not done before the next tag, i.e. at alpha, then it shouldn't ever be done. -- Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, URL: http://isl.cf.ac.uk/~paul/ Phone: +44 1222 874000 x6646 (work), +44 1222 457651 (home) Dept. Mechanical Engineering, University of Wales, College Cardiff. From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 13:20:36 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA27495 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:20:36 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA27489 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:20:27 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id NAA00517; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:19:49 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199504102019.NAA00517@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jfieber@cs.smith.edu, jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504102019.VAA26767@isl.cf.ac.uk> from "Paul Richards" at Apr 10, 95 09:19:29 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 455 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > We can't do that, not without totally buggering up any chance of checking > out previous releases. We *can* do this with the required surgery between > tags though. If it's not done before the next tag, i.e. at alpha, then > it shouldn't ever be done. we already did :-( -- Poul-Henning Kamp -- TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 'All relevant people are pertinent' && 'All rude people are impertinent' => 'no rude people are relevant' From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 13:27:16 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA28036 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:27:16 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28002 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:26:59 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id NAA00956; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:26:13 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199504102026.NAA00956@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: phk@ref.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk, jfieber@cs.smith.edu, jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504102019.NAA00517@ref.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Apr 10, 95 01:19:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 560 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > We can't do that, not without totally buggering up any chance of checking > > out previous releases. We *can* do this with the required surgery between > > tags though. If it's not done before the next tag, i.e. at alpha, then > > it shouldn't ever be done. > > we already did :-( That doesn't mean we should continue to do it. This was what the lock down on direct repository work was about. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 14:14:25 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA04260 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:14:25 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04148 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:13:36 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA25923; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:10:25 +1000 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:10:25 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504102110.HAA25923@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: jfieber@cs.smith.edu, paul@isl.cf.ac.uk Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml Cc: CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com, jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >The extra cruft you've added to the cvs tree WILL NEVER GO AWAY! >>From now until the end of FreeBSD's existence I'm going to have X Mb of >disk space taken up by html files that we shouldn't have in the tree because >even when you implement the proper mechanism those html files will hang >around in the attic. It's small compared with cruft already in the Attic :-]: $ du ncvs/src/share/FAQ 10 ./LaTeX 47 ./FreeBSD-1.X 243 ./HTML 180 ./SGML 6 ./extras 304 ./Text 529 ./Attic 1329 . I have lots of spare disk but none where I want it. I currently have more of a problem with /usr filling up with cruft than with /ncvs. Bruce From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 14:46:17 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA08409 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:46:17 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA08338 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:45:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA13809; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:46:33 -0400 From: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199504102146.RAA13809@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: phk@ref.tfs.com, jfieber@cs.smith.edu, jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504102019.VAA26767@isl.cf.ac.uk> from "Paul Richards" at Apr 10, 95 09:19:29 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1386 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Paul Richards writes: > > Just now I think many of us are in favour of any kind of doc, no matter > > what bloat it adds to the tree, as compared to having no doc at all. > > But this is a silly argument. I'm all in favour of getting the docs but > there's little extra work involved in writing it in SGML rather than > HTML. It doesn't solve the underlying problem at all, we can't provide > LaTeX versions of these docs or anything else. Sorry, I don't quite follow this last paragraph. The docs are marked up according to the linuxdoc DTD. The point of using the SGML was to get a multitude of different output formats *including* LaTeX which can be generated quite easily. Outside of three very small html files in the root of the FAQ directory, nobody has written anything in HTML. > I'd rather see them written in SGML and at some point before release one > of use will have to sit down and port the conversion tools. Doing it > this way means no-one will ever have the incentive to fix the underlying > problem and we'll end up being stuck with it this way. Or the HTML directory is zapped and we include the tools to generate HTML, ascii, LaTeX or whatever during a make world. BTW, what was the underlying problem? -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ================================================ =================================== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 20:15:13 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA06282 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:15:13 -0700 Received: (from martin@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA06261 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:14:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:14:55 -0700 From: Martin Renters Message-Id: <199504110314.UAA06261@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text CONTRIB.FreeBSD Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk martin 95/04/10 20:14:53 Modified: share/FAQ/Text CONTRIB.FreeBSD Log: Add myself to the Contrib list. From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 22:53:12 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA13606 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:53:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA13582 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:52:32 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards), jfieber@cs.smith.edu, jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:19:49 PDT." <199504102019.NAA00517@ref.tfs.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:52:30 -0700 Message-ID: <13581.797579550@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > We can't do that, not without totally buggering up any chance of checking > > out previous releases. We *can* do this with the required surgery between > > tags though. If it's not done before the next tag, i.e. at alpha, then > > it shouldn't ever be done. > > we already did :-( What? Huh? But we *haven't* tagged the tree yet, not unless somebody lost his mind last night and I haven't seen the cvs logs yet! Jordan From owner-cvs-share Mon Apr 10 22:56:44 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA13661 for cvs-share-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:56:44 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA13651 ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:56:11 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA02342; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:56:09 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199504110556.WAA02342@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML adminman.sgml infosources.sgml To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk, jfieber@cs.smith.edu, jfieber@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-share@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <13581.797579550@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Apr 10, 95 10:52:30 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 685 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > We can't do that, not without totally buggering up any chance of checking > > > out previous releases. We *can* do this with the required surgery between > > > tags though. If it's not done before the next tag, i.e. at alpha, then > > > it shouldn't ever be done. > > > > we already did :-( > > What? Huh? But we *haven't* tagged the tree yet, not unless somebody > lost his mind last night and I haven't seen the cvs logs yet! The RELEASE20 tag is screwed up because of repository copies :-( -- Poul-Henning Kamp -- TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 'All relevant people are pertinent' && 'All rude people are impertinent' => 'no rude people are relevant' From owner-cvs-share Tue Apr 11 15:23:21 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA12077 for cvs-share-outgoing; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:23:21 -0700 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA12066 ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:23:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:23:18 -0700 From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199504112223.PAA12066@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/SGML freebsd-faq.sgml Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk roberto 95/04/11 15:23:17 Modified: share/FAQ/SGML freebsd-faq.sgml Log: Insert modifications about the Ultrastor cards and the "flags 0x1" needed for the QIC 40/80 driver. Add more drivers for network cards. Submitted by: Steve Gerakines and Matt Thomas From owner-cvs-share Tue Apr 11 17:58:07 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA17452 for cvs-share-outgoing; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:58:07 -0700 Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA17442 ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:58:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:58:04 -0700 From: John Fieber Message-Id: <199504120058.RAA17442@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/HTML SCSI-1.html SCSI-2.html SCSI-3.html SCSI-4.html SCSI-5.html SCSI.html adminman-1.html adminman-10.html adminman-11.html adminman-2.html adminman-3.html adminman-4.html adminman-5.html adminman-6.html adminman-7.html adminman-8.html adminman-9.html adminman.html ctm-1.html ctm-2.html ctm-3.html ctm-4.html ctm-5.html ctm-6.html ctm-7.html ctm-8.html ctm.html dialup-1.html dialup-2.html dialup-3.html dialup-4.html dialup-5.html dialup-6.html dialup-7.html dialup-8.html dialup-9.html dialup.html freebsd-faq-1.html freebsd-faq-10.html freebsd-faq-11.html freebsd-faq-2.html freebsd-faq-3.html freebsd-faq-4.html freebsd-faq-5.html freebsd-faq-6.html freebsd-faq-7.html freebsd-faq-8.html freebsd-faq-9.html freebsd-faq.html infosources-1.html infosources-2.html infosources.html refman-1.html refman-2.html refman.html slip_server-1.html slip_server-2.html slip_server-3.html slip_server-4.html slip_server-5.html slip_server-6.html slip_server-7.html slip_server.html userman-1.html userman-10.html userman-11.html userman-12.html userman-13.html userman-14.html userman-15.html userman-2.html userman-3.html userman-4.html userman-5.html userman-6.html userman-7.html userman-8.html userman-9.html userman.html Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jfieber 95/04/11 17:58:03 Removed: share/FAQ/HTML SCSI-1.html SCSI-2.html SCSI-3.html SCSI-4.html SCSI-5.html SCSI.html adminman-1.html adminman-10.html adminman-11.html adminman-2.html adminman-3.html adminman-4.html adminman-5.html adminman-6.html adminman-7.html adminman-8.html adminman-9.html adminman.html ctm-1.html ctm-2.html ctm-3.html ctm-4.html ctm-5.html ctm-6.html ctm-7.html ctm-8.html ctm.html dialup-1.html dialup-2.html dialup-3.html dialup-4.html dialup-5.html dialup-6.html dialup-7.html dialup-8.html dialup-9.html dialup.html freebsd-faq-1.html freebsd-faq-10.html freebsd-faq-11.html freebsd-faq-2.html freebsd-faq-3.html freebsd-faq-4.html freebsd-faq-5.html freebsd-faq-6.html freebsd-faq-7.html freebsd-faq-8.html freebsd-faq-9.html freebsd-faq.html infosources-1.html infosources-2.html infosources.html refman-1.html refman-2.html refman.html slip_server-1.html slip_server-2.html slip_server-3.html slip_server-4.html slip_server-5.html slip_server-6.html slip_server-7.html slip_server.html userman-1.html userman-10.html userman-11.html userman-12.html userman-13.html userman-14.html userman-15.html userman-2.html userman-3.html userman-4.html userman-5.html userman-6.html userman-7.html userman-8.html userman-9.html userman.html Log: Documents on the move! The tools to generate HTML from SGML source will be imported so these machine generated HTML files are no longer appropriate. From owner-cvs-share Wed Apr 12 15:16:14 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA27833 for cvs-share-outgoing; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:16:14 -0700 Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA27819 ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:16:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:16:10 -0700 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199504122216.PAA27819@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man5 ethers.5 Makefile Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk wpaul 95/04/12 15:16:09 Modified: share/man/man5 Makefile Added: share/man/man5 ethers.5 Log: Add ethers(5) man page. From owner-cvs-share Wed Apr 12 15:47:43 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA29079 for cvs-share-outgoing; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:47:43 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29066 ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:47:33 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA21561; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:47:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:47:33 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504122247.PAA21561@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/FAQ/Text CONTRIB.FreeBSD Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/12 15:47:32 Modified: share/FAQ/Text CONTRIB.FreeBSD Log: Add Steve Gerakines to contributors. From owner-cvs-share Thu Apr 13 13:44:59 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA26578 for cvs-share-outgoing; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:44:59 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA26570 ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:44:53 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA05199; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:44:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:44:53 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199504132044.NAA05199@time.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters@time.cdrom.com, cvs-share@time.cdrom.com Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh 95/04/13 13:44:52 Modified: share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile Log: Get the matcd manpage linked into the parent directory like the others. From owner-cvs-share Fri Apr 14 08:38:54 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA21294 for cvs-share-outgoing; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:38:54 -0700 Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA21280 ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:38:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:38:49 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Message-Id: <199504141538.IAA21280@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/termcap termcap.src Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ache 95/04/14 08:38:48 Modified: share/termcap termcap.src Log: vt220: fix k1-k4 to be more compatible with xterm and other emulators. Simplify se/ue for emulators From owner-cvs-share Fri Apr 14 08:57:55 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA22374 for cvs-share-outgoing; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:57:55 -0700 Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA22364 ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:57:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:57:52 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Message-Id: <199504141557.IAA22364@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/termcap termcap.src Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ache 95/04/14 08:57:51 Modified: share/termcap termcap.src Log: Add separate entry for screen(1), slightly different from vt220 From owner-cvs-share Sat Apr 15 14:48:34 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA03090 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 14:48:34 -0700 Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA03080 ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 14:48:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 14:48:32 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199504152148.OAA03080@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 ahc.4 aha.4 ahb.4 Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk gibbs 95/04/15 14:48:32 Modified: share/man/man4/man4.i386 aha.4 ahb.4 Added: share/man/man4/man4.i386 ahc.4 Log: To celibrate the new status of the ahc driver, give it a man page. Add references to the ahc driver to the other adaptec man pages. Remove the "NOTE" section of the ahb man page that complained about Adaptec's NDA policy preventing 274x driver development. From owner-cvs-share Sat Apr 15 16:56:35 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA08367 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 16:56:35 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA08357 ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 16:56:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 16:56:31 -0700 From: Satoshi Asami Message-Id: <199504152356.QAA08357@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.port.mk Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk asami 95/04/15 16:56:30 Modified: share/mk bsd.port.mk Log: Yikes...typo (.package/ should have been .packages/). From owner-cvs-share Sat Apr 15 17:08:58 1995 Return-Path: cvs-share-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA08983 for cvs-share-outgoing; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 17:08:58 -0700 Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA08973 ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 17:08:55 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 17:08:55 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199504160008.RAA08973@freefall.cdrom.com> To: CVS-commiters, cvs-share Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile Sender: cvs-share-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk gibbs 95/04/15 17:08:54 Modified: share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile Log: Install ahc.4.