From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 01:06:54 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA20966 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 01:06:54 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA20949 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 01:06:51 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA19076; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 10:06:47 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA01506 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 10:06:47 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA27528 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 07:43:51 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199507090543.HAA27528@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Comments? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 07:43:49 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199507090055.KAA14573@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Jul 9, 95 10:55:08 am Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 525 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Evans wrote: > > >How does this look for a suggested change? I know, it depends on the > >user's path, but that can be fixed.. This is a suggestion of a possible > >style of change only.. > > Fine for the uname change, but we usually don't make things dependent > on Makefiles ...but Peter didn't change this -- the dependency on the Makefile has already been there. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 01:53:02 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA23752 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 01:53:02 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA23734 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 01:53:00 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <55359>; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 10:52:51 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA05012; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 12:35:06 +0200 Message-Id: <199507081035.MAA05012@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cd /usr/ports ; make -i fetch In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jul 1995 14:52:50 +0200." <199507071252.FAA05852@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 12:35:04 +0200 From: "Julian Stacey " Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > That was done by Paul's request, so say thanks to him too.... :) Thanks ! > Also don't forget Jordan's "make fetch-list" command, especially > useful if your FreeBSD machine is not IP connected. ^ permanently Thanks, Ive tried this too after you mentioned it, it's great :-) Julian S From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 03:26:42 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA26012 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 03:26:42 -0700 Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (news@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA26006 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 03:26:37 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12/DIALix) id SAA10088 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 18:26:29 +0800 Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-current@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: 9 Jul 1995 18:26:21 +0800 From: peter@haywire.dialix.com (Peter Wemm) Message-ID: <3toasd$9r3$1@haywire.DIALix.COM> Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Australia. References: <199507090055.KAA14573@godzilla.zeta.org.au>, <199507090543.HAA27528@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Comments? Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) writes: >As Bruce Evans wrote: >> >> >How does this look for a suggested change? I know, it depends on the >> >user's path, but that can be fixed.. This is a suggestion of a possible >> >style of change only.. >> >> Fine for the uname change, but we usually don't make things dependent >> on Makefiles >...but Peter didn't change this -- the dependency on the Makefile has >already been there. Yep. The bit that I was worried about was adding a dependency on /usr/bin/uname - an absolute pathname.. To go that way, would for starters, require the "RELEASE!=" setting to be changed to "RELEASE!= ${DESTDIR}/usr/bin/uname" and the dependency should have beed ${DESTDIR}/usr/bin/uname - that would allow the build-onto-another-drive scenario to work correctly. I, personally, think the better fix is to get send-pr to read the release at *run time*. There's no need to rebuild send-pr each time the system is recompiled. -Peter >-- >cheers, J"org >joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ >Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 04:00:27 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA26364 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 04:00:27 -0700 Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA26319 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 03:59:45 -0700 Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.6.12/BSD4.4) id UAA17555 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:59:30 +1000 From: michael butler Message-Id: <199507091059.UAA17555@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: ipfw panics To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:59:29 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3895 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Bill Fenner (fenner@parc.xerox.com) sent me this set of patches but I haven't heard from him since I acknowledged that they worked. Consequently, I apologize in advance if this is "bad form", however, if anyone else is trying to use "ipfw addf reject", they do solve a show-stopper .. relative to this afternoon's sup .. diff -r -c ./ip_fw.c /usr/custom/netinet/ip_fw.c *** ./ip_fw.c Tue Jul 4 19:06:08 1995 --- /usr/custom/netinet/ip_fw.c Sun Jul 9 17:23:14 1995 *************** *** 104,110 **** #ifdef IPFIREWALL int ! ip_fw_chk(ip, rif, chain) struct ip *ip; struct ifnet *rif; struct ip_fw *chain; --- 104,111 ---- #ifdef IPFIREWALL int ! ip_fw_chk(m, ip, rif, chain) ! struct mbuf *m; struct ip *ip; struct ifnet *rif; struct ip_fw *chain; *************** *** 115,121 **** struct icmp *icmp = (struct icmp *) ((u_long *) ip + ip->ip_hl); struct ifaddr *ia = NULL, *ia_p; struct in_addr src, dst, ia_i; - struct mbuf *m; u_short src_port = 0, dst_port = 0; u_short f_prt = 0, prt; char notcpsyn = 1; --- 116,121 ---- *************** *** 302,308 **** return TRUE; bad_packet: - m = dtom(ip); if (f != NULL) { /* * Do not ICMP reply to icmp packets....:) or to packets --- 302,307 ---- diff -r -c ./ip_fw.h /usr/custom/netinet/ip_fw.h *** ./ip_fw.h Tue May 30 21:00:09 1995 --- /usr/custom/netinet/ip_fw.h Sun Jul 9 17:23:26 1995 *************** *** 126,132 **** /* * Function pointers. */ ! extern int (*ip_fw_chk_ptr)(struct ip *,struct ifnet *,struct ip_fw *); extern int (*ip_fw_ctl_ptr)(int,struct mbuf *); extern void (*ip_acct_cnt_ptr)(struct ip *,struct ifnet *,struct ip_fw *,int); --- 126,132 ---- /* * Function pointers. */ ! extern int (*ip_fw_chk_ptr)(struct mbuf *, struct ip *,struct ifnet *,struct ip_fw *); extern int (*ip_fw_ctl_ptr)(int,struct mbuf *); extern void (*ip_acct_cnt_ptr)(struct ip *,struct ifnet *,struct ip_fw *,int); *************** *** 135,141 **** /* * Function definitions. */ ! int ip_fw_chk(struct ip *,struct ifnet *,struct ip_fw *); int ip_fw_ctl(int,struct mbuf *); void ip_acct_cnt(struct ip *,struct ifnet *,struct ip_fw *,int); --- 135,141 ---- /* * Function definitions. */ ! int ip_fw_chk(struct mbuf *, struct ip *,struct ifnet *,struct ip_fw *); int ip_fw_ctl(int,struct mbuf *); void ip_acct_cnt(struct ip *,struct ifnet *,struct ip_fw *,int); diff -r -c ./ip_fwdef.c /usr/custom/netinet/ip_fwdef.c *** ./ip_fwdef.c Tue Jul 4 19:06:09 1995 --- /usr/custom/netinet/ip_fwdef.c Sun Jul 9 17:23:38 1995 *************** *** 38,47 **** struct ip_fw *ip_acct_chain; #ifdef IPFIREWALL ! int (*ip_fw_chk_ptr)(struct ip *, struct ifnet *, struct ip_fw *) = &ip_fw_chk; int (*ip_fw_ctl_ptr)(int, struct mbuf *) = &ip_fw_ctl; #else ! int (*ip_fw_chk_ptr)(struct ip *, struct ifnet *, struct ip_fw *); int (*ip_fw_ctl_ptr)(int, struct mbuf *); #endif --- 38,47 ---- struct ip_fw *ip_acct_chain; #ifdef IPFIREWALL ! int (*ip_fw_chk_ptr)(struct mbuf *, struct ip *, struct ifnet *, struct ip_fw *) = &ip_fw_chk; int (*ip_fw_ctl_ptr)(int, struct mbuf *) = &ip_fw_ctl; #else ! int (*ip_fw_chk_ptr)(struct mbuf *, struct ip *, struct ifnet *, struct ip_fw *); int (*ip_fw_ctl_ptr)(int, struct mbuf *); #endif diff -r -c ./ip_input.c /usr/custom/netinet/ip_input.c *** ./ip_input.c Wed Jun 28 07:04:11 1995 --- /usr/custom/netinet/ip_input.c Sun Jul 9 17:24:00 1995 *************** *** 242,248 **** */ if (ip_fw_chk_ptr!=NULL) ! if (!(*ip_fw_chk_ptr)(ip,m->m_pkthdr.rcvif,ip_fw_chain) ) { goto next; } --- 242,248 ---- */ if (ip_fw_chk_ptr!=NULL) ! if (!(*ip_fw_chk_ptr)(m,ip,m->m_pkthdr.rcvif,ip_fw_chain) ) { goto next; } From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 04:17:26 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA26998 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 04:17:26 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA26992 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 04:17:25 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id NAA13517 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 13:17:23 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id NAA17084 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 13:17:22 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199507091117.NAA17084@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: peter@haywire.dialix.com (Peter Wemm) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 13:17:22 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3tmvu7$fo7$1@haywire.DIALix.COM> from "Peter Wemm" at Jul 9, 95 06:13:27 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 444 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > How about making it either "2.2-BUILT-xxxxxx" or "2.X-BUILT-xxxxx" or > even "2.X-CURRENT-xxxxxx". > We should revert to something like it was before e.g. 2.2-Development. Putting the build date is not really informative because it gives no insight about the date of the files themselves... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 04:49:49 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA27773 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 04:49:49 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA27767 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 04:49:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with UUCP id UAA20624 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:35:27 +0900 Received: by tama.spec.co.jp (8.6.11/6.4J.5) id UAA02424; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:22:53 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai Message-Id: <199507091122.UAA02424@tama.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: tun devices statistics broken? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:22:52 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <199507090553.HAA27569@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 9, 95 07:53:02 am Reply-To: amurai@spec.co.jp X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 981 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Subject: Cron /etc/daily > > > network: > > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll > ... > > tun0* 1500 0 0 422 0 0 > > > After playing around wiht iijppp, this is from my /etc/daily output. > Even though i've been playing only with a bunch of pings, i'm rather > sure that i've also seen replies from the other end, so i would also > expect to see some incoming packets. Oh really? I get a follows on my -current (type netstat -i rather cron) Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ... lo0 16384 741 0 741 0 0 tun0* 1500 1540 0 1447 0 0 > -- > cheers, J"org Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai Internet: amurai@spec.co.jp System Planning and Engineering Co,.Ltd. Voice : +81-33833-5341 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 06:27:36 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA29328 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 06:27:36 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA29319 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 06:27:35 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199507091327.GAA29319@freefall.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 06:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: peter@haywire.dialix.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507091117.NAA17084@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at Jul 9, 95 01:17:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 761 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > How about making it either "2.2-BUILT-xxxxxx" or "2.X-BUILT-xxxxx" or > > even "2.X-CURRENT-xxxxxx". > > > > We should revert to something like it was before e.g. 2.2-Development. > Putting the build date is not really informative because it gives > no insight about the date of the files themselves... > You can tell that the files are older than a particular date, that is very useful. ("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that got comitted on july 5th !) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Just that: dried leaves in boiling water ? From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 06:43:38 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA29608 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 06:43:38 -0700 Received: from dataplex.net (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA29599 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 06:43:37 -0700 Received: from [199.183.109.242] by dataplex.net with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b8); Sun, 9 Jul 1995 08:43:32 -0500 X-Sender: wacky@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 08:43:33 -0500 To: Poul-Henning Kamp From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that >got comitted on july 5th !) "BUILT-950708" -- Does he have it? IMHO, "2.1d0803" where 0803 represents the CTM update level or "2.1d950706" where that represents the date of the source file sup would be more useful. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 07:26:24 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA29997 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 07:26:24 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA29991 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 07:26:21 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id QAA14130 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 16:26:17 +0200 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id QAA17662 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 16:26:16 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.frmug.fr.net (8.7.Beta.9/keltia-uucp-2.2) id QAA00823 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 16:10:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199507091410.QAA00823@keltia.frmug.fr.net> Subject: gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Current Users' list) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 16:10:49 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-19950708 ctm#852 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jörg, why are you forcing -O2 in this file for all of texinfo's utilities ? 207 [16:08] root@keltia:~# ( cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/ ; cvs diff -u -r 1.2 Makefile.inc ) Index: Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /spare/FreeBSD-current/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile.inc --- 1.2 1994/09/15 12:09:36 +++ Makefile.inc 1995/07/09 14:06:54 @@ -1,5 +1,6 @@ # Texinfo defaults. -# $Id: Makefile.inc,v 1.2 1994/09/15 12:09:36 jkh Exp $ +# $Id: Makefile.inc,v 1.3 1995/07/08 16:45:49 joerg Exp $ INFODIR?= /usr/share/info +CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950708 #7: Sat Jul 8 01:30:06 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 08:35:53 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA02278 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 08:35:53 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA02269 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 08:35:51 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199507091535.IAA02269@freefall.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 08:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Wackerbarth" at Jul 9, 95 08:43:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 749 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > >got comitted on july 5th !) > > "BUILT-950708" -- Does he have it? > > IMHO, "2.1d0803" where 0803 represents the CTM update level > or "2.1d950706" where that represents the date of the source file sup > would be more useful. The CTM sequence number will not be put into it. CTM has nothing to do with our kernel. If anything we should have a cronjob update the version-string automatically every day. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Just that: dried leaves in boiling water ? From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 09:25:34 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA03247 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 09:25:34 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA03240 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 09:25:33 -0700 Received: from dataplex.net (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.241]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id JAA00954 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 09:25:30 -0700 Received: from [199.183.109.242] by dataplex.net with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b8); Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:25:26 -0500 X-Sender: wacky@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:25:28 -0500 To: Poul-Henning Kamp From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> IMHO, "2.1d0803" where 0803 represents the CTM update level >> or "2.1d950706" where that represents the date of the source file sup >> would be more useful. > >The CTM sequence number will not be put into it. CTM has nothing to >do with our kernel. I was not advocating that CTM be the trigger mechanism. I was just using it as an example of the type of information that would be keyed to the file updates. >If anything we should have a cronjob update the version-string automatically >every day. The idea of a cron-job update is fine except that it should not update unless something else has changed. Remember that this same scheme will also need to work for the -stable tree. Obviously, that date will end up changing only occasionally. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 09:52:59 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA03904 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 09:52:59 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA03898 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 09:52:57 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id SAA14633 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 18:52:55 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id SAA18090 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 18:52:54 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199507091652.SAA18090@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: phk@freefall.cdrom.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 18:52:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: peter@haywire.dialix.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507091327.GAA29319@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Jul 9, 95 06:27:35 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 433 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > You can tell that the files are older than a particular date, that > is very useful. > > ("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > got comitted on july 5th !) Yes but I can have sources from May and build a kernel in July... So you can't deduce anything. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 11:15:59 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA05083 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:15:59 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA05077 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:15:53 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09446; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:15:38 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507091815.LAA09446@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: phk@freefall.cdrom.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr, peter@haywire.dialix.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507091327.GAA29319@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Jul 9, 95 06:27:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1757 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > How about making it either "2.2-BUILT-xxxxxx" or "2.X-BUILT-xxxxx" or > > > even "2.X-CURRENT-xxxxxx". > > > > > > > We should revert to something like it was before e.g. 2.2-Development. > > Putting the build date is not really informative because it gives > > no insight about the date of the files themselves... > > > > You can tell that the files are older than a particular date, that > is very useful. > > ("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > got comitted on july 5th !) That may be true, but you surely can not say that he has all patches applied up to 950703 by that string, as he may have built it from 950301 sources... Any way I would like to have this small bit of confusing mess cleaned up and propose the following changes based on my understanding of why things are the way they are. The release folks wanted the SNAP shots to go out with a reasonable date in the snap shot that was done automagically is my understanding of the sole reason this was _really_ ever added. I propose that the release Makefile be modified to _require_ either a RELEASE=value or SNAP=value that is used in constructing a string of the form ``X.Y-RELEASE-`date`'' or ``X.Y-SNAP-`date`''. Without the pass in override the string should be ``X.Y-DEVELOPEMENT'', no date as the date of the build here is pretty darn meaningless. Ie, this applies when building from /usr/src/Makefile and not /usr/src- /release/Makefile. The value X.Y will be set to 2.0.6, 2.1, and 2.2 in the respective branches of the CVS tree (too late to set a 2.0.5 one :-(). Comments? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 11:20:11 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA05146 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:20:11 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA05133 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:20:03 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09455; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:17:39 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507091817.LAA09455@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: phk@freefall.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Wackerbarth" at Jul 9, 95 08:43:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 616 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > >got comitted on july 5th !) > > "BUILT-950708" -- Does he have it? > > IMHO, "2.1d0803" where 0803 represents the CTM update level > or "2.1d950706" where that represents the date of the source file sup > would be more useful. A) assumes he is using CTM, B) assumes he is using sup, neither may be true (and is certainly not true for me, along with 32 other folks that I know of). -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 11:50:47 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA06551 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:50:47 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA06545 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:50:44 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09546; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:50:50 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507091850.LAA09546@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 11:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199507091410.QAA00823@keltia.frmug.fr.net> from "Ollivier Robert" at Jul 9, 95 04:10:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1258 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Jörg, why are you forcing -O2 in this file for all of texinfo's utilities ? > > 207 [16:08] root@keltia:~# ( cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/ ; cvs diff -u -r 1.2 Makefile.inc ) > Index: Makefile.inc > =================================================================== > RCS file: /spare/FreeBSD-current/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc,v > retrieving revision 1.2 > diff -u -r1.2 Makefile.inc > --- 1.2 1994/09/15 12:09:36 > +++ Makefile.inc 1995/07/09 14:06:54 > @@ -1,5 +1,6 @@ > # Texinfo defaults. > -# $Id: Makefile.inc,v 1.2 1994/09/15 12:09:36 jkh Exp $ > +# $Id: Makefile.inc,v 1.3 1995/07/08 16:45:49 joerg Exp $ > > INFODIR?= /usr/share/info > > +CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe You confused the heck out of me with this one, this is a modification on some machine some place, this modification is part of a recent commit, which I did not have pulled out in my source tree. cvs diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3 showed me it was added recently. This should not be there unless there is a VERY good reason for it. Either way the -pipe must die, that really kills small machines compiling. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 13:02:09 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA11135 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 13:02:09 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA11129 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 13:02:06 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <55302>; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 22:01:55 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA22571; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 21:55:27 +0200 Message-Id: <199507091955.VAA22571@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: phk@freefall.cdrom.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), roberto@blaise.ibp.fr, peter@haywire.dialix.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Jul 1995 20:15:38 +0200." <199507091815.LAA09446@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 21:55:26 +0200 From: "Julian Stacey " Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I propose that the release Makefile be modified to _require_ either > a RELEASE=value or SNAP=value that is used in constructing a string > of the form ``X.Y-RELEASE-`date`'' or ``X.Y-SNAP-`date`''. > Comments? I may be off target here, but I suspect ctm rev nos have significance to an increasing number of folk ? Julian S From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 15:21:22 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA16728 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:21:22 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA16722 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:21:19 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id AAA15742 ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:21:16 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id AAA18790 ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:21:15 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199507092221.AAA18790@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Stacey) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:21:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, phk@freefall.cdrom.com, peter@haywire.dialix.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507091955.VAA22571@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Stacey" at Jul 9, 95 09:55:26 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 396 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I may be off target here, but I suspect ctm rev nos have significance to an > increasing number of folk ? Yes, but it is easy put the CTM revision # out of .ctm_status or out of the last CTM patch. Rod's solution put us back on a cleaner way. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 16:58:54 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA19252 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 16:58:54 -0700 Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (peter@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA19246 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 16:58:50 -0700 Received: (from peter@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12/DIALix) id HAA10029; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 07:58:29 +0800 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 07:58:28 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , roberto@blaise.ibp.fr, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? In-Reply-To: <199507091815.LAA09446@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 9 Jul 1995, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > How about making it either "2.2-BUILT-xxxxxx" or "2.X-BUILT-xxxxx" or > > > > even "2.X-CURRENT-xxxxxx". > > > > > > > > > > We should revert to something like it was before e.g. 2.2-Development. > > > Putting the build date is not really informative because it gives > > > no insight about the date of the files themselves... > > > > > > > You can tell that the files are older than a particular date, that > > is very useful. > > > > ("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > > got comitted on july 5th !) > > That may be true, but you surely can not say that he has all patches > applied up to 950703 by that string, as he may have built it from > 950301 sources... > > Any way I would like to have this small bit of confusing mess cleaned > up and propose the following changes based on my understanding of > why things are the way they are. The release folks wanted the SNAP > shots to go out with a reasonable date in the snap shot that was > done automagically is my understanding of the sole reason this was > _really_ ever added. > > I propose that the release Makefile be modified to _require_ either > a RELEASE=value or SNAP=value that is used in constructing a string > of the form ``X.Y-RELEASE-`date`'' or ``X.Y-SNAP-`date`''. > > Without the pass in override the string should be ``X.Y-DEVELOPEMENT'', > no date as the date of the build here is pretty darn meaningless. > Ie, this applies when building from /usr/src/Makefile and not /usr/src- > /release/Makefile. > > The value X.Y will be set to 2.0.6, 2.1, and 2.2 in the respective > branches of the CVS tree (too late to set a 2.0.5 one :-(). > > Comments? I'd certainly vote for something like that! How about, as part of the sup scanning routines, the routine stamps in the X.Y-DEVELOPMENT-yymmdd entrys into the freefall's /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh right before the supscan? Another different option might be to get the cron job to touch newvers.sh immediately before the supscan, and get newvers.sh to read the timestamp on itself while running.. IMHO, the date of the source release is useful, but the build date is potentially quite misleading. Oh, and dont forget, there's X.Y-ALPHA, -BETA and friends.. :-) Cheers, -Peter > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD > From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 19:23:23 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA22211 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:23:23 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA22199 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:23:18 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA09904; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:21:37 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507100221.TAA09904@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: peter@haywire.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.Org (FreeBSD current), jkh@FreeBSD.Org, davidg@FreeBSD.Org In-Reply-To: from "Peter Wemm" at Jul 10, 95 07:58:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3061 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.Org Precedence: bulk [cc: trimmed to -current, jkh, davidg added as it will impact them on the branches and need an ack from both of them before doing this] > > On Sun, 9 Jul 1995, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > How about making it either "2.2-BUILT-xxxxxx" or "2.X-BUILT-xxxxx" or > > > > > even "2.X-CURRENT-xxxxxx". > > > > > > > > > > > > > We should revert to something like it was before e.g. 2.2-Development. > > > > Putting the build date is not really informative because it gives > > > > no insight about the date of the files themselves... > > > > > > > > > > You can tell that the files are older than a particular date, that > > > is very useful. > > > > > > ("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > > > got comitted on july 5th !) > > > > That may be true, but you surely can not say that he has all patches > > applied up to 950703 by that string, as he may have built it from > > 950301 sources... > > > > Any way I would like to have this small bit of confusing mess cleaned > > up and propose the following changes based on my understanding of ... > > Comments? > > I'd certainly vote for something like that! Thats 3 folks I have affirmation from, and no nack's so it is slated to be done some time real soon now. (Oh, joy, 3 way branch commits, hope no one is planning major work on newvers.sh :-)). Jordan, I will need your help with the make release stuff to make sure I get this right! > How about, as part of the sup scanning routines, the routine stamps in > the X.Y-DEVELOPMENT-yymmdd entrys into the freefall's > /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh right before the supscan? Why don't we walk a little before we try to run. I prefer to get what I have outlined implemented and working correctly, with some testing done before we try to go to far with it. I will keep this in the back of my mind as a wizzy bang feature I should make sure I don't preclude by design. > Another different option might be to get the cron job to touch newvers.sh > immediately before the supscan, and get newvers.sh to read the timestamp > on itself while running.. I am not sure that all distribution mechanisms correctly propogate all time stamps :-(. But will keep this in mind for a future possiblility. > IMHO, the date of the source release is useful, but the build date is > potentially quite misleading. Agreed, not only ``potentially'', it has infact caused problems between people trying to diagnose a problem. > Oh, and dont forget, there's X.Y-ALPHA, -BETA and friends.. :-) Forget them I bloddy well, they are simple cvs tag's and are not branches, I don't plan to change newvers.sh every time I tag the tree. Besides 10 seconds after -ALPHA the tag needs to revert to either -DEVELOPEMENT or -STABLE. Besides only releng's can cut official ALPHA/BETA/RELEASE code so this will be handled by the ``make release SNAP= | RELEASE='' in /usr/src/release. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 9 19:35:32 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA22757 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:35:32 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA22751 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:35:29 -0700 Received: from ast.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyxsk08979; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 22:35:26 -0400 Received: from trsvax.fw.ast.com (fw.ast.com) by ast.com with SMTP id AA15334 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:36:05 -0700 Received: by trsvax.fw.ast.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.1) id ; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:37 CDT Received: by nemesis.lonestar.org (Smail3.1.27.1 #18) id m0sV8aM-0004w2C; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:28 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:28 CDT To: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org From: uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV) Sent: Sun Jul 9 1995, 21:28:38 CDT Subject: Lasermate/IBM/Reveal... patches for matcd Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk If you are one of the people who has been trying to use your Panasonic (Matsushita) CD-ROM drive on 2.0.5R, but it won't work because you have a non-Sound Blaster host interface, there are some patches available now that can help you out. If you have a Sound Blaster Vibra-16, a Lasermate, Reveal, Media Vision, Crystal, IBM, some Diamond and other adapters with a Panasonic interface, these patches will automatically detect the different hardware and adjust the driver on the fly to work with that card. You can even have a mix of board types present at the same time. The patches go on top of the matcd driver found in 2.0.5R. The changes have already been tested by several people who have some of this hardware and they are happy. The patches were submitted for inclusion in '-current' last week, but the approval process is apparently going slow and I don't know when they will be available via '-current' or included in a SNAP. If you need these patches right away, send me mail. Otherwise, please wait for them to appear in '-current'. Thanks. Frank Durda IV uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com Your choice: "FreeBSD" or "Bob-Pro" (also known as Windows '95). Gee, that wasn't so tough a choice after all.... :-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 00:13:26 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA28794 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:13:26 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA28784 ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:13:25 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199507100713.AAA28784@freefall.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: peter@haywire.dialix.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507091652.SAA18090@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at Jul 9, 95 06:52:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 639 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > You can tell that the files are older than a particular date, that > > is very useful. > > > > ("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > > got comitted on july 5th !) > > Yes but I can have sources from May and build a kernel in July... So you > can't deduce anything. It still rules out that you have anything >later< than that date... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Just that: dried leaves in boiling water ? From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 00:23:59 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA29292 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:23:59 -0700 Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (peter@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA29286 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:23:55 -0700 Received: (from peter@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12/DIALix) id PAA11343; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:23:18 +0800 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:23:15 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Ollivier Robert , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? In-Reply-To: <199507100713.AAA28784@freefall.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > You can tell that the files are older than a particular date, that > > > is very useful. > > > > > > ("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > > > got comitted on july 5th !) > > > > Yes but I can have sources from May and build a kernel in July... So you > > can't deduce anything. > > It still rules out that you have anything >later< than that date... Unfortunately not necessarily.. If they do a 'sup; make all; make install' every day from may through july, the date on send-pr will never change - it'll still say it's a may release, even though it's totally july-vintage code they're running. Hence, my suggested change to send-pr, so that it uses the installed version of uname at run time, not the time of the first make. (make all will never change the RELEASE!= entry in an otherwise up-to-date send-pr in the build area). -Peter > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. > http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. > whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. > Just that: dried leaves in boiling water ? > From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 01:36:41 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA00646 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 01:36:41 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA00622 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 01:36:18 -0700 Received: from tama3.spec.co.jp (tama3 [202.32.13.252]) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with SMTP id RAA05033 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:31:05 +0900 Message-Id: <9507100841.AA00099@tama3.spec.co.jp.spec.co.jp> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:41:38 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai To: current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: NFS (client) on current is broken... X-Mailer: AL-Mail 0.94Beta Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there anyone notice that NFS (client) of current on 95/07/10 JST seems to be broken... Nothing appear message, Just say "Steal NFS handler" whenever accesing to mount point by ls. Addition I just make sure a combination of 950622-SNAP kerenl for client and -current for server is working well. just -current for client has a problem. Any idea ? Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai E-Mail: amurai@spec.co.jp SPEC Voice : +81-3-3833-5341 System Planning and Engineering Corp. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 02:28:29 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA02428 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 02:28:29 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA02422 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 02:28:12 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA00454; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:11:26 +1000 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:11:26 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199507100911.TAA00454@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: peter@haywire.dialix.com, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, phk@freefall.cdrom.com, roberto@blaise.ibp.fr Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >How about, as part of the sup scanning routines, the routine stamps in >the X.Y-DEVELOPMENT-yymmdd entrys into the freefall's >/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh right before the supscan? It has to be in the cvs commit scanning routines, since the distribution mechanism (sup, ctm, ...) shouldn't affect the date. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 03:36:41 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA04807 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 03:36:41 -0700 Received: from minnow.render.com (render.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.118]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA04801 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 03:36:38 -0700 Received: (from dfr@localhost) by minnow.render.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00286; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:36:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:35:57 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Atsushi Murai cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: NFS (client) on current is broken... In-Reply-To: <9507100841.AA00099@tama3.spec.co.jp.spec.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Atsushi Murai wrote: > Is there anyone notice that NFS (client) of current on 95/07/10 JST > seems to be broken... Nothing appear message, Just say > "Steal NFS handler" whenever accesing to mount point by ls. > Addition I just make sure a combination of 950622-SNAP kerenl for > client and -current for server is working well. > just -current for client has a problem. > > Any idea ? You need to rebuilt mount_nfs. The struct nfs_args kernel interface for mounting NFS directories changed with the NFSv3 changes. You should also rebuild all the other NFS related binaries, particularly amd, if you use that. -- Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.com Phone: +44 171 251 4411 FAX: +44 171 251 0939 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 05:00:38 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA06417 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 05:00:38 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA06411 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 05:00:35 -0700 Received: from tama3.spec.co.jp (tama3 [202.32.13.252]) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with SMTP id UAA07715; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:54:56 +0900 Message-Id: <9507101205.AA00100@tama3.spec.co.jp.spec.co.jp> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:05:29 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai To: dfr@render.com Cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: NFS (client) on current is broken... In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AL-Mail 0.94Beta Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug Rabson wrote: :On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Atsushi Murai wrote: : :> Is there anyone notice that NFS (client) of current on 95/07/10 JST :> seems to be broken... Nothing appear message, Just say :> "Steal NFS handler" whenever accesing to mount point by ls. :> Addition I just make sure a combination of 950622-SNAP kerenl for :> client and -current for server is working well. :> just -current for client has a problem. :> :> Any idea ? : :You need to rebuilt mount_nfs. The struct nfs_args kernel interface for :mounting NFS directories changed with the NFSv3 changes. You should also :rebuild all the other NFS related binaries, particularly amd, if you use :that. Thanks. It's work for me.( I can get out Chickin and Egg situation ;-) :-- :Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.com : Phone: +44 171 251 4411 : FAX: +44 171 251 0939 Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai E-Mail: amurai@spec.co.jp SPEC Voice : +81-3-3833-5341 System Planning and Engineering Corp. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 17:23:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA27465 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:23:39 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA27452 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:23:10 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA23232; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 02:22:26 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id CAA15971; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 02:22:22 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA01371; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:20:09 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199507101420.QAA01371@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:20:09 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507091850.LAA09546@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Jul 9, 95 11:50:50 am Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1153 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > Jörg, why are you forcing -O2 in this file for all of texinfo's utilities ? > > +CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe > > You confused the heck out of me with this one, this is a modification on > some machine some place, this modification is part of a recent commit, > which I did not have pulled out in my source tree. > > cvs diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3 showed me it was added recently. This should > not be there unless there is a VERY good reason for it. Either way > the -pipe must die, that really kills small machines compiling. The -pipe went in by accident. After fiddling a bit around with it, i didn't find an easy way to fetch the setting out of /etc/make.conf without breaking the whole (and ugly) make mechanism of texinfo. The previous state of the art has been _no_ optimization at all, which i considered bogus. If anybody knows a better solution, i'm willing to use it. Otherwise i would simply go and kill the -pipe. (Btw., i've not seen Ollivier's message at all.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 17:36:32 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA27672 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:36:32 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA27666 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:36:29 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA14743; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:36:15 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507110036.RAA14743@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507101420.QAA01371@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 10, 95 04:20:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1645 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > As Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > > > Jörg, why are you forcing -O2 in this file for all of texinfo's utilities ? > > > > +CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe > > > > You confused the heck out of me with this one, this is a modification on > > some machine some place, this modification is part of a recent commit, > > which I did not have pulled out in my source tree. > > > > cvs diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3 showed me it was added recently. This should > > not be there unless there is a VERY good reason for it. Either way > > the -pipe must die, that really kills small machines compiling. > > The -pipe went in by accident. After fiddling a bit around with it, i > didn't find an easy way to fetch the setting out of /etc/make.conf > without breaking the whole (and ugly) make mechanism of texinfo. The > previous state of the art has been _no_ optimization at all, which i > considered bogus. Other than texinfo/misc/Makefile these all include bsd.prog.mk which should already be handling the /etc/make.conf stuff. The real question now is why do all these makefiles explicitly null out CFLAGS then add a bunch of defines to it??? That should be done with setting COPTS, not CFLAGS!!! > If anybody knows a better solution, i'm willing to use it. Otherwise > i would simply go and kill the -pipe. Use COPTS instead of CFLAGS in the bloody makefiles, CFLAGS is global to the tree, COPTS is private to a particular directory. > (Btw., i've not seen Ollivier's message at all.) :-(. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 10 17:43:45 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA28064 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:43:45 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA28058 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:43:42 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA14768; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:43:24 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507110043.RAA14768@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507110036.RAA14743@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Jul 10, 95 05:36:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2312 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > As Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jörg, why are you forcing -O2 in this file for all of texinfo's utilities ? > > > > > > +CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe > > > > > > You confused the heck out of me with this one, this is a modification on > > > some machine some place, this modification is part of a recent commit, > > > which I did not have pulled out in my source tree. > > > > > > cvs diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3 showed me it was added recently. This should > > > not be there unless there is a VERY good reason for it. Either way > > > the -pipe must die, that really kills small machines compiling. > > > > The -pipe went in by accident. After fiddling a bit around with it, i > > didn't find an easy way to fetch the setting out of /etc/make.conf > > without breaking the whole (and ugly) make mechanism of texinfo. The > > previous state of the art has been _no_ optimization at all, which i > > considered bogus. > > Other than texinfo/misc/Makefile these all include bsd.prog.mk which > should already be handling the /etc/make.conf stuff. > > The real question now is why do all these makefiles explicitly null > out CFLAGS then add a bunch of defines to it??? That should be done > with setting COPTS, not CFLAGS!!! > > > If anybody knows a better solution, i'm willing to use it. Otherwise > > i would simply go and kill the -pipe. > > Use COPTS instead of CFLAGS in the bloody makefiles, CFLAGS is global > to the tree, COPTS is private to a particular directory. And a few greps over the Makefiles for the whole source tree show that this has degenerated badly and reading /usr/share/mk/bsd.README says that CFLAGS is not even suppose to be visible (ie, it is not mentioned, only COPTS is :-( :-( :-(). Some one please go fix texinfo's Makefiles to not have one bloddy refererence to CFLAGS and use COPTS as it should and I will look at fixing the whole of the rest of the tree. > > (Btw., i've not seen Ollivier's message at all.) > > :-(. > > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 11 01:32:36 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA12296 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 01:32:36 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA12252 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 01:31:56 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04620; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:23:39 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA18338 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:23:38 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA04730 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:05:37 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199507110605.IAA04730@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:05:36 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199507110043.RAA14768@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Jul 10, 95 05:43:24 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 483 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > Some one please go fix texinfo's Makefiles to not have one bloddy > refererence to CFLAGS and use COPTS as it should and I will look at > fixing the whole of the rest of the tree. If nobody else stepped forward, i will do it by the weekend. This will finally eliminate the need for my Makefile.inc hack. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 11 05:00:58 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA18027 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 05:00:58 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA18014 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 05:00:45 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id OAA07218 ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:00:22 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id OAA01836 ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:00:21 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199507111200.OAA01836@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/Makefile.inc To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:00:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507110036.RAA14743@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Jul 10, 95 05:36:15 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 254 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > (Btw., i've not seen Ollivier's message at all.) > > :-(. Argh, I'm sure I did a group reply, sorry. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 11 09:25:02 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA25688 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:25:02 -0700 Received: from netcom5.netcom.com (mantar@netcom5.netcom.com [192.100.81.113]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA25682 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:25:01 -0700 Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA02808; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:23:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Manfred Antar X-Sender: mantar@netcom5 To: FreeBSD current Subject: xscreensaver changes group Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i just installed xscreensaver from current ports and all files in /usr/X11R6/bin now belong to group dialer!! someone migt want to look into this. ============================= | mantar@netcom.com | | Ph. (415) 647-4843 | ============================= From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 11 21:30:13 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA19892 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 21:30:13 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA19850 ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 21:29:57 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA09376; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:28:46 +1000 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:28:46 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199507120428.OAA09376@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, root@debian.cps.cmich.edu Subject: Re: Help me please.. :) Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >debian# make >cc -O2 -I/usr/src/sys/libkern -I/usr/src/sys/libkern/.. -DKERNEL -c >adddi3.c -o adddi3.o >In file included from quad.h:57, > from adddi3.c:40: >/usr/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:72: parse error before `off_t' >/usr/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:72: warning: data definition has no >type or storage class >/usr/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:73: parse error before `pid_t' >/usr/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:73: warning: data definition has no >type or storage class >*** Error code 1 Your is out of date. There are two bugs here: 1) The include path is incorrect for compiling libkern. is /usr/include/machine/ansi.h for compiling libkern but it is usually /usr/src/sys/i386/include/ansi.h for compiling the main part of the kernel. 2) FreeBSD releases have /usr/include/machine populated with files. It should be a symlink to /sys/i386/include to avoid update problems. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 11 23:22:10 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA22116 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 23:22:10 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22110 ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 23:22:07 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA17246; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 23:20:20 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507120620.XAA17246@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Help me please.. :) To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 23:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, root@debian.cps.cmich.edu, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507120428.OAA09376@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Jul 12, 95 02:28:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2232 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >debian# make > >cc -O2 -I/usr/src/sys/libkern -I/usr/src/sys/libkern/.. -DKERNEL -c > >adddi3.c -o adddi3.o > >In file included from quad.h:57, > > from adddi3.c:40: > >/usr/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:72: parse error before `off_t' > >/usr/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:72: warning: data definition has no > >type or storage class > >/usr/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:73: parse error before `pid_t' > >/usr/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:73: warning: data definition has no > >type or storage class > >*** Error code 1 > > Your is out of date. > > There are two bugs here: There is one bug here. > > 1) The include path is incorrect for compiling libkern. > is /usr/include/machine/ansi.h for compiling libkern but it is usually > /usr/src/sys/i386/include/ansi.h for compiling the main part of the > kernel. That is a bug. > > 2) FreeBSD releases have /usr/include/machine populated with files. It > should be a symlink to /sys/i386/include to avoid update problems. This is not a bug, realize that without the src release installed if we did this you could not use the system for compiling. Bill did that with 386BSD 0.1 and folks screamed about having to get part of the src tree to be able to compile. It was _fixed_ in FreeBSD 1.0 and all later releases. We need to ``enhance'' the installation of the src tree, that is where the bug lies. When a src tree is installed then and only then should this symlink be made. Infact right after a src install a ``cd /usr/src; make SHARED=symlinks includes'' would be the proper thing to do. I have in all of my /etc/make.conf files done just the opposite for my own reasons (SHARED=copies) as I don't like my mucking around in the /usr/src area to be any way visible to the running system, if I want a change visible I run a make install. The other real fix to this is to get on with the -no-std-includes that has fallen into the deep deep cracks of time. Your proposed symlink is just not really the right _fix_ for this bug :-(. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 03:25:44 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA29437 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 03:25:44 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA29419 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 03:25:33 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <55484>; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:24:26 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA09449; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:04:02 +0200 Message-Id: <199507120904.LAA09449@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i can help Cc: kiran@cerc.wvu.edu Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:04:01 +0200 From: "Julian Stacey " Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Kiran, I'm forwarding your mail to current@freebsd.org, as you'll find BSD networking people there (I'm not one), PS you'd follow up to current@freebsd.org as to what you want to do, & expand somewhat. Julian S > From: kiran@cerc.wvu.edu (Kiran Reddy) > Message-Id: <9507101922.AA06508@teter> > Subject: Re: i can help > To: jhs@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Howard Stacey) > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:22:20 +0200 > In-Reply-To: <199504012217.AAA02768@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Howard Stacey" at Apr 2, 95 00:17:50 am > > hello Julian S, > > I wanted to work on the networking portion of the BSD and will be glad > if you can give me some pointers about the networking implementations in > BSD. > > > > > - -- > bye, > > Kiran Reddy. > kiran@cerc.wvu.edu From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 04:01:02 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA00846 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 04:01:02 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA00825 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 04:01:00 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA06759; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 04:00:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 04:00:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199507121100.EAA06759@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: root@freefall.cdrom.com CC: current@freebsd.org Subject: New sup targets From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk To whom it may concern: Please create the following new sup targets on freefall: ports-benchmarks ports-security ports-sysutils Thanks Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 05:03:19 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA02256 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 05:03:19 -0700 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA02250 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 05:03:16 -0700 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <20741-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:03:11 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id WAA13804 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:07:07 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id MAA01485 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:03:50 GMT Message-Id: <199507121203.MAA01485@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Seagate.c - the Future Domain (+ performance) release. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:03:49 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The following patch for v1.8 (2.0.5R) of seagate.c allows it to work with Future Domain TMC-885 controllers. These beasts were just different enough in a number of perverse ways to be recognised but not work with the seagate stuff. I also whacked in blind transfers for DATAIN and DATAOUT phases - this more than doubles my throughput. If you're dubious about that, comment out the definition of SEA_BLINDTRANSFER. Anyway if you're running an ST01 or TMC-950 controller, please give this a go, I'd like to see if anything's broken for those beasts. 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From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 05:52:27 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA03352 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 05:52:27 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA03267 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 05:51:54 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28547; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:51:51 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id OAA29921 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:51:49 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA09892 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 10:31:50 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199507120831.KAA09892@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: at(1) permission problem? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 10:31:49 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 525 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Am i the only one seeing this? j@uriah 62% at 1800 /bin/true ^D Job c00ccdda0.00 will be executed using /bin/sh j@uriah 63% atrm c00ccdda0.00 c00ccdda0.00: Permission denied j@uriah 64% ls -l /usr/bin/at* -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 24 18:47 /usr/bin/at* -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 24 18:47 /usr/bin/atq* -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 24 18:47 /usr/bin/atrm* -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 09:10:40 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA10369 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:10:40 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA10338 ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:10:22 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAA31521; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:05:28 +1000 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:05:28 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199507121605.CAA31521@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Subject: Re: Help me please.. :) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, root@debian.cps.cmich.edu Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> There are two bugs here: >There is one bug here. >> 1) ... >> 2) FreeBSD releases have /usr/include/machine populated with files. It >> should be a symlink to /sys/i386/include to avoid update problems. >This is not a bug, realize that without the src release installed if we >did this you could not use the system for compiling. Bill did that >... >We need to ``enhance'' the installation of the src tree, that is where >the bug lies. When a src tree is installed then and only then should There are hundreds of bugs here :-). We need to support multiple machines someday. Then files in /usr/include/machine can't work even if it is a symlink. A symlink is still better because it can be changed much faster. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 11:06:53 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA13666 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:06:53 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA13660 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:06:50 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA18162; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:04:32 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507121804.LAA18162@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: i can help To: jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Stacey) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@freebsd.org, kiran@cerc.wvu.edu In-Reply-To: <199507120904.LAA09449@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Stacey" at Jul 12, 95 11:04:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1359 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Kiran, > I'm forwarding your mail to current@freebsd.org, > as you'll find BSD networking people there (I'm not one), > PS you'd follow up to current@freebsd.org as to what you want to do, > & expand somewhat. > > Julian S > > > From: kiran@cerc.wvu.edu (Kiran Reddy) > > Message-Id: <9507101922.AA06508@teter> > > Subject: Re: i can help > > To: jhs@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Howard Stacey) > > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:22:20 +0200 > > In-Reply-To: <199504012217.AAA02768@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Howard Stacey" at Apr 2, 95 00:17:50 am > > > > hello Julian S, > > > > I wanted to work on the networking portion of the BSD and will be glad > > if you can give me some pointers about the networking implementations in > > BSD. I will reference you to 2 new books that are an absolute bible to the networking code as it was when we started work on FreeBSD 2.0: ``TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols'' ISBN 0-201-63346-9 and ``TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 2: The Implementation'' ISBN 0-201-63354-X. These are commonly refered to as the ``Stevens'' books, after the authors last name. > > bye, > > > > Kiran Reddy. > > kiran@cerc.wvu.edu > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 11:25:53 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA14204 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:25:53 -0700 Received: from dataplex.net (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14198 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:25:51 -0700 Received: from [199.183.109.242] by dataplex.net with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b8); Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:49:37 -0500 X-Sender: wacky@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:49:37 -0500 To: Bruce Evans From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: Help me please.. :) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans writes: >There are hundreds of bugs here :-). We need to support multiple >machines someday. Then files in /usr/include/machine can't work even if >it is a symlink. A symlink is still better because it can be changed >much faster. I agree there are MANY bugs. However, the "bug" is that any code relies on /usr/include/..., per se, at all. /usr/include should be used ONLY for applications to be run on THIS machine and under THIS version of the operating system. In general, the path to the appropriate include files needs to be a parameter of the Makefiles with the default becoming "/usr/include/" for applications. If someone is compiling a new version of the operating system, they should be required to specify the appropriate include environment for that configuration. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 12:28:48 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA21756 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:28:48 -0700 Received: from mpp.minn.net ([204.157.201.242]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA21748 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:28:43 -0700 Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.minn.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA01636 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:28:39 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199507121928.OAA01636@mpp.minn.net> Subject: Re: at(1) permission problem? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:28:39 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199507120831.KAA09892@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 12, 95 10:31:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1408 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Am i the only one seeing this? > > j@uriah 62% at 1800 > /bin/true > ^D > Job c00ccdda0.00 will be executed using /bin/sh > j@uriah 63% atrm c00ccdda0.00 > c00ccdda0.00: Permission denied > j@uriah 64% ls -l /usr/bin/at* > -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 24 18:47 /usr/bin/at* > -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 24 18:47 /usr/bin/atq* > -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 24 18:47 /usr/bin/atrm* > -- > cheers, J"org Seems to work just fine on my system. I do recall having to fix up the directory permissions a while back when the new version of at was installed. Could that be your problem? Script started on Wed Jul 12 14:19:20 1995 You have mail. 1% at 1800 ls ^D Job c00ccdf44.00 will be executed using /bin/sh 2% atq Date Owner Queue Job# 18:00:00 07/12/95 mpp c c00ccdf44.00 3% atrm c00ccdf44.00 4% ls -l /usr/bin/at* -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 3 16:34 /usr/bin/at* -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 3 16:34 /usr/bin/atq* -r-sr-xr-x 4 root bin 20480 Jun 3 16:34 /usr/bin/atrm* 5% ls -l /var/at total 2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Apr 15 10:00 at.deny drwxr-xr-x 2 daemon wheel 512 Jul 12 14:19 jobs/ -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Apr 11 08:10 lockfile drwxr-xr-x 2 daemon wheel 512 Jul 8 15:25 spool/ 6% ^D Script done on Wed Jul 12 14:19:50 1995 -- Mike Pritchard mpp@legarto.minn.net "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 12:52:09 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA22708 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:52:09 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA22690 ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:52:02 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA18542; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:51:48 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507121951.MAA18542@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Help me please.. :) To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, root@debian.cps.cmich.edu In-Reply-To: <199507121605.CAA31521@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Jul 13, 95 02:05:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1298 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >> There are two bugs here: > > >There is one bug here. > > >> 1) ... > > >> 2) FreeBSD releases have /usr/include/machine populated with files. It > >> should be a symlink to /sys/i386/include to avoid update problems. > > >This is not a bug, realize that without the src release installed if we > >did this you could not use the system for compiling. Bill did that > >... > > >We need to ``enhance'' the installation of the src tree, that is where > >the bug lies. When a src tree is installed then and only then should > > There are hundreds of bugs here :-). We need to support multiple > machines someday. Then files in /usr/include/machine can't work even if > it is a symlink. A symlink is still better because it can be changed > much faster. Actually the current ``SHARED=copies'' works perfect for a shared src tree and multiple machines/archs. Just ask the folks over at CSRG. /usr is a per arch file system, symlinking from a per arch file system to a arch independent (/usr/src) file system is bad news. You just made another case for leaving it the way it is! Other solution is variant symbolic link :-). -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 16:31:37 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA03293 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:31:37 -0700 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [198.137.146.49]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA03284 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:31:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA02793; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:31:24 -0600 Message-Id: <199507122331.RAA02793@rover.village.org> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: i can help Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:04:32 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:31:24 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk : I will reference you to 2 new books that are an absolute bible to the : networking code as it was when we started work on FreeBSD 2.0: : ``TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols'' ISBN 0-201-63346-9 and : ``TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 2: The Implementation'' ISBN 0-201-63354-X. These are wonderful, and quite helpful even to people that are implementing things like SLIP and PPP emulators :-). Good books, but if you are going to implement the protocols from scratch you'll also need the RFCs. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 16:50:06 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA04406 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:50:06 -0700 Received: from vishnu.alias.net (root@jpunix.com [198.133.124.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA04378 ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:49:59 -0700 Received: (from perry@localhost) by vishnu.alias.net (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA00865; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 18:49:54 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,list.list.freebsd-questions Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 18:49:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "John A. Perry" To: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Current Subject: pcvt and X windows? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I just started using FreeBSD 2.0.5. I used pcvt under 1.1.5.1 and really enjoyed it. I compiled support for pcvt into my 2.0.5 kernel, but now I can't start X windows. Any ideas? John Perry - KG5RG - perry@jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry@jpunix.com is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMARe41OTpEThrthvAQHalQP+ORPjc00/D1UuP1xGtW3KmfQ97GxDX0iO zd4WG4H/iaDooFs+kUvycLliHn9qPrZE0M4hZMGvvH0NGWFXz4SyYtV8YemWsQJB ufKExzEoJ9LUEagPTdTBYpQoj8ViYwJkPqEfC8z5Lk0xxAByZwtLRPQ7TpQcZ9H7 vR67ooOO1iQ= =murH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 16:58:16 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA05126 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:58:16 -0700 Received: from bigdipper.iagi.net (bigdipper.iagi.net [198.6.14.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA05119 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:58:13 -0700 Received: (from adhir@localhost) by bigdipper.iagi.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA14301; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:58:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:58:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Stable SUP tree Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Don't mean to nag - but are we any closer to having a -stable SUP tree (Rod)? Thanks! Alok K. Dhir Internet Access Group, Inc. adhir@iagi.net (301) 652-0484 Fax: (301) 652-0649 http://www.iagi.net From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 12 23:59:18 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA22027 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 23:59:18 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22019 ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 23:59:12 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HSTDMRYL1S003L7U@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 08:53:43 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id JAA09403; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:06:23 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:06:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: pcvt and X windows? In-reply-to: from "John A. Perry" at Jul 12, 95 06:49:40 pm To: perry@vishnu.alias.net (John A. Perry) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199507130706.JAA09403@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 563 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I just started using FreeBSD 2.0.5. I used pcvt under 1.1.5.1 and really > enjoyed it. I compiled support for pcvt into my 2.0.5 kernel, but now I > can't start X windows. Any ideas? kernel CONFIG file: options XSERVER options UCONSOLE > > John Perry - KG5RG - perry@jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! > WWW - http://www.jpunix.com > PGP 2.62 key for perry@jpunix.com is on the keyservers. > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.0-BUILT-19950701 FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT- From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 13 05:00:54 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA03838 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 05:00:54 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA03832 ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 05:00:53 -0700 Received: from hq.icb.chel.su (icb-rich-gw.icb.chel.su [193.125.10.34]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id EAA08610 ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 04:59:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (babkin@localhost) by hq.icb.chel.su (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA02222; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 17:57:59 +0600 From: "Serge A. Babkin" Message-Id: <199507131157.RAA02222@hq.icb.chel.su> Subject: ALPHA of DigiBoard driver To: current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 17:57:58 +0600 (GMT+0600) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 251 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Development of the DigiBoard driver came to the ALPHA version ! It is in: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/incoming/digi-a.tgz Serge Babkin ! (babkin@hq.icb.chel.su) ! Headquarter of Joint Stock Commercial Bank "Chelindbank" ! Chelyabinsk, Russia From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 13 05:20:55 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA04482 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 05:20:55 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA04472 ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 05:20:19 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <55301>; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:19:26 +0200 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02511; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:19:03 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:19:03 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey Message-Id: <199507131219.OAA02511@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: ppp SIOCAIFADDR: File exists + Usage: add dest mask gateway Cc: gj@freebsd.org Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi PPP (user mode) people, I seem to be stumbling at this point in ppp: ppp ON vector> dial dial OK! login OK! ppp ON vector> Packet mode. ppp ON vector> PPP ON vector> SIOCAIFADDR: File exists Usage: add dest mask gateway Anyone got any ideas ? (PS I still have a working SL/IP config Im using to send this mail, which uses the same modem) My current level of src is ctm src-cur 783 (about 10 patches behind yesterdays current) . this ctm level was used to gen. both a kernel & all src/ so no mismatch there, maybe my sl/ip is interfering, though i did an explicit ifconfig sl0 down just to be sure I'm still kind'a new to networking, & its a bit hard without a working box alongside to do comparisons with (though jkh has sent his pp.conf, thanks jkh :-) I guess I've not done something .. somewhere perhaps my netstart is too old or .. BTW this is my current ppp.conf ----- default: set device /dev/cuaa3 set speed 57600 set debug 6 disable lqr deny lqr set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \ \dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 100 CONNECT" uni: set phone "280797 N 28057464 N 282159 N 28058612 N 21058805" set login "TIMEOUT 40 login:-\\r-login: XXXX assword: XXXX login: Pj hs assword: XXX" set timeout 0 set ifaddr 129.187.142.36 129.187.142.1 add 0 255.255.255.192 129.187.142.1 ------ Any hints or advice most welcome ! Thanks Julian --- Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org & jhs@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 13 05:35:52 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA04931 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 05:35:52 -0700 Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA04915 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 05:35:49 -0700 Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.6.12/BSD4.4) id WAA18870 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 22:35:36 +1000 From: michael butler Message-Id: <199507131235.WAA18870@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: -current won't compile To: current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 22:35:35 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 123 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Grabbed a new -current just now .. and "make depend" complains of .. don't know how to make ../../vm/default_pager.c :-( From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 13 07:28:33 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA08824 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:28:33 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA08817 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:28:30 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA10446; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:27:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA04968; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:28:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199507131428.HAA04968@corbin.Root.COM> To: michael butler cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current won't compile In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Jul 95 22:35:35 +1000." <199507131235.WAA18870@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:28:54 -0700 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Grabbed a new -current just now .. and "make depend" complains of .. > >don't know how to make ../../vm/default_pager.c > >:-( The automated cvs update of the exported /usr/src tree happend in between during my commits. This problem will self-correct itself at the next update (I think they happen every 6 hours)...the next one is happening right now (7AM). -DG From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 13 09:59:22 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA16656 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:59:22 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA16647 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:59:20 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id JAA20066 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:58:47 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <55301>; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 18:54:00 +0200 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00487 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 18:53:51 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 18:53:51 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey Message-Id: <199507131653.SAA00487@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: routing failed with a /kernel.nu Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Interesting phenomena: I usually use route add default remote-slip -hopcount 1 with my slip connection, (& let the ISP do all the work) but I happened to havve manual booted with /kernel.nu & routing failed, I could only rlogin to remote-slip host, from there i could ping freefall, so the net was OK, Either this points to a weekness in our software or FAR more likely, to aweekness in my net knowledge (vast emptiness here ;-) Julian S jhs@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 03:21:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA02071 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:21:25 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA02063 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:21:21 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id MAA08186 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:21:19 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id MAA18355 for current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:21:18 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199507141021.MAA18355@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Problem with vm/default_pager.c To: current@FreeBSD.org (Current's list FreeBSD) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:21:18 +0200 (MET DST) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 974 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got last sources by CTM (ctm#880 from 19950714020001) and I get the following error when compiling the kernel... Do I have to "config KELTIA2" again ? I've tried make clean; make depend; make but no way. cc -O -m486 -pipe -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DKELTIA -DI486_CPU -DKTRACE -DGATEWAY -DSHMMAXPGS=128 -DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM -DSYSVSHM -DCOMPAT_LINUX -DTEST_LABELLING -DDUMMY_NOPS -DAUTO_EOI_2 -DAUTO_EOI_1 -DUCONSOLE -DSCSI_2_DEF -DCOMPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DLFS -DMFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 -c vers.c loading kernel vm_pager.o: Undefined symbol `_defaultpagerops' referenced from data segment *** Error code 1 Stop. The defaultpagerops structure is defined in vm/default_pager.c and referenced in vm/vm_pager.c. Any idea ? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 03:31:19 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA02602 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:31:19 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA02594 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:31:14 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id MAA08243 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:31:11 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id MAA18384 for current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:31:11 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199507141031.MAA18384@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Problem with default_pager.c : FIXED To: current@FreeBSD.org (Current's list FreeBSD) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:31:10 +0200 (MET DST) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 264 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A config KELTIA2 followed by the usual make sequence fixed the defaultpagerops definition. Forget about my message. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 05:37:35 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA07269 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 05:37:35 -0700 Received: from ess.harris.com (su15a.ess.harris.com [130.41.1.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA07263 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 05:37:33 -0700 Received: from borg.ess.harris.com (suw2k.ess.harris.com) by ess.harris.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16306; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 08:37:30 -0400 Received: by borg.ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03475; Fri, 14 Jul 95 08:35:04 EDT Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 08:35:04 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9507141235.AA03475@borg.ess.harris.com> To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: current breaks 2.0.5 binary Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just did a make world after a july 14 sup and now top is broken. What was changed to break a 2.0.5 (622 snap) binary? Are there any other binaries that are now broken and I should rebuild? Jim Leppek From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 05:52:28 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA07887 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 05:52:28 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA07863 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 05:52:26 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA00857; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 05:52:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 05:52:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199507141252.FAA00857@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com CC: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9507141235.AA03475@borg.ess.harris.com> (jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com) Subject: Re: current breaks 2.0.5 binary From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk (Note crosspost, followup to "current" or "ports" depending on what your comment is about) * I just did a make world after a july 14 sup and now top is broken. * What was changed to break a 2.0.5 (622 snap) binary? * Are there any other binaries that are now broken and I should rebuild? I'm only aware of "top" (it was mentioned in David's commit message) from the ports tree, if someone knows of something else, please let me know. I made a copy of the top package with the name "top-3.3-stable" on the ftp site, so that when we rebuild the package, it won't get overwritten. I've also made a mental note to use that package for the 2.1 ports tree. By the way, I recompiled top on my machine (with the new kernel), and now I get this: ======= >> top kvm_open: proc size mismatch (35520 total, 620 chunks) top: Out of memory. ======= Do we need an additional patch? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 07:39:05 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA11326 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:39:05 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA11317 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:39:02 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA16116 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:27:22 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA11860; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:25:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA00160; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:26:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199507141426.HAA00160@corbin.Root.COM> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com, freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current breaks 2.0.5 binary In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Jul 95 05:52:14 PDT." <199507141252.FAA00857@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:26:37 -0700 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >By the way, I recompiled top on my machine (with the new kernel), and >now I get this: > >======= >>> top >kvm_open: proc size mismatch (35520 total, 620 chunks) >top: Out of memory. >======= > >Do we need an additional patch? No. I did mention, however, that libkvm must be rebuilt: " NOTE: libkvm, w, ps, 'top', and any other utility which depends on struct proc or any VM system structure will have to be rebuilt!!! " People need to be more aware about how to deal with these kinds of problems; there are a great many changes that are going to be made in the future to the 2.2 kernel that will cause even worse problems then this last round of changes. It's important for people who wish to run -current to know how to deal with things like "ps" not working as expected. Further, it is *escential* that you be sure to keep your LKMs up to date (even when you don't think you are or will be using them). There are going to be many significant changes to the FS layers that will make old LKMs not work and using them will kill your system. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 07:41:07 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA11537 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:41:07 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA11486 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:40:57 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who-internal.cdrom.com [192.216.223.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA20117 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:32:08 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA16162 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:32:05 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA11864; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:30:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA00182; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:31:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199507141431.HAA00182@corbin.Root.COM> To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG (Current's list FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Problem with vm/default_pager.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:21:18 +0200." <199507141021.MAA18355@blaise.ibp.fr> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:31:26 -0700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >I got last sources by CTM (ctm#880 from 19950714020001) and I get the >following error when compiling the kernel... Do I have to "config KELTIA2" >again ? I've tried make clean; make depend; make but no way. > >cc -O -m486 -pipe -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DKELTIA -DI486_CPU -DKTRACE -DGATEWAY -DSHMMAXPGS=128 -DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM -DSYSVSHM -DCOMPAT_LINUX -DTEST_LABELLING -DDUMMY_NOPS -DAUTO_EOI_2 -DAUTO_EOI_1 -DUCONSOLE -DSCSI_2_DEF -DCOMPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DLFS -DMFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 -c vers.c >loading kernel >vm_pager.o: Undefined symbol `_defaultpagerops' referenced from data segment >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. > >The defaultpagerops structure is defined in vm/default_pager.c and referenced >in vm/vm_pager.c. > >Any idea ? You should *always* re-config after getting source updates!!! No wonder people are having weird problems! This is very disturbing. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 09:25:08 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA16500 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:25:08 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA16476 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:24:06 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18573; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:23:08 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA15645 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:23:07 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA05022 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:46:16 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199507141146.NAA05022@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: at(1) permission problem? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:46:16 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199507121928.OAA01636@mpp.minn.net> from "Mike Pritchard" at Jul 12, 95 02:28:39 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 432 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Mike Pritchard wrote: > > Seems to work just fine on my system. I do recall having to fix up > the directory permissions a while back when the new version of > at was installed. Could that be your problem? Thanks for the pointer. I've chowned the dirs to daemon, and it's ok now. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 11:18:40 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA21623 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 11:18:40 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA21615 ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 11:18:36 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA16713; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:18:23 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 14 Jul 95 13:18 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 14 Jul 95 13:18 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: Version numbers of the different branches? To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:18:21 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lars Fredriksen" Cc: rkw@dataplex.net, phk@freefall.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507091817.LAA09455@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Jul 9, 95 11:17:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 939 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Rodney W. Grimes writes: > > > > > >("BUILT-950703" ? Hey, He hasn't got the "ls -s panic" patch that > > >got comitted on july 5th !) > > > > "BUILT-950708" -- Does he have it? > > > > IMHO, "2.1d0803" where 0803 represents the CTM update level > > or "2.1d950706" where that represents the date of the source file sup > > would be more useful. > > A) assumes he is using CTM, B) assumes he is using sup, neither may > be true (and is certainly not true for me, along with 32 other folks > that I know of). > > > Can't we come up with a mechanism where cvs does this for us? What if a cvs commit on file xyz also fires off a script to update the RELEASE_DATE in the top level makefile? (Obviously one have to avoid recursion here :-)) Lars -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Fredriksen fredriks@mcs.com (home) lars@fredriks.pr.mcs.net (home-home) fredriks@asiago.cs.wisc.edu From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 12:51:13 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA24495 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:51:13 -0700 Received: from cps201.cps.cmich.edu (cps201.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.20.201]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA24489 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:51:10 -0700 Received: (from archive@localhost) by cps201.cps.cmich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA06058; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:50:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: CMU Mail Archive Reply-To: mbailey@gnu.ai.mit.edu To: Warner Losh cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i can help In-Reply-To: <199507122331.RAA02793@rover.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Warner Losh wrote: > > : I will reference you to 2 new books that are an absolute bible to the > : networking code as it was when we started work on FreeBSD 2.0: > : ``TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols'' ISBN 0-201-63346-9 and > : ``TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 2: The Implementation'' ISBN 0-201-63354-X. > > These are wonderful, and quite helpful even to people that are > implementing things like SLIP and PPP emulators :-). Good books, but > if you are going to implement the protocols from scratch you'll also > need the RFCs. > > Warner > Well a rpc.lockd and rpc.statd would be helpful.... :) Thanks Thanks, David Brinks Matthew Bailey --All opinions, and possibly some of the facts, are strictly of my own.--- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | CMU Mail Archive Account | archive@cps.cmich.edu | | 422 Pearce Hall |----------------------------------------| | Computer Science Department, Central Michigan University | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | This account is maintained by the admins located at this site as an | | atempt to reduce mail traffice in personal accounts but yet still get the | | valuable info. from many different mailing lists. | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | This account is currently maintained by: | | David Brinks - Assist Sys. 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Admin. - mbailey@cps.cmich.edu | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 13:02:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA24813 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:02:25 -0700 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [198.137.146.49]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA24806 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:02:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA10445; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:02:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199507142002.OAA10445@rover.village.org> To: mbailey@gnu.ai.mit.edu Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i can help In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:50:46 EDT Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:02:03 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk : Well a rpc.lockd and rpc.statd would be helpful.... :) No current RFCs exist on these protocols, to the best of my knowledge. They are a Sun value added feature on top of NFS. Neither one of them is described in detail in either of the Stevens books. However, he does provide a pointer to Chapters 9, 10, 11 of [X/Open 1991] that supposedly provide details of the lock manager. [X/Open 1991] is listed as X/Open. 1991. _Protocols for X/Open Internetworking: XNFS_. X/Open, Reading, Berkshire, U.K. A better description of Sun RPC, XDR and NFS. Also contains a description of the NFS lock manager and status monitor protocols, along with appendicies detailing the semantic differences that can be encountered using NFS, verses local file access. X/Open document number XO/CAE/91/030. However, I know from contacts that I have that used to maintain Solbourne's OS/MP that the lock protocol has changed several times, even in "mere" patches, and I've had these conversations since 1991, so I'm not sure how helpful this document will be in defining the current state of the art. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 13:44:15 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA26042 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:44:15 -0700 Received: from mpp.minn.net (mpp.Minn.Net [204.157.201.242]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA26035 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:44:06 -0700 Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.minn.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA19465; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:40:04 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199507142040.PAA19465@mpp.minn.net> Subject: Re: i can help To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:40:03 -0500 (CDT) Cc: mbailey@gnu.ai.mit.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199507142002.OAA10445@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Jul 14, 95 02:02:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1385 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Warner Losh wrote: > > : Well a rpc.lockd and rpc.statd would be helpful.... :) > > No current RFCs exist on these protocols, to the best of my knowledge. > They are a Sun value added feature on top of NFS. Neither one of them > is described in detail in either of the Stevens books. However, he > does provide a pointer to Chapters 9, 10, 11 of [X/Open 1991] that > supposedly provide details of the lock manager. > >... > > However, I know from contacts that I have that used to maintain > Solbourne's OS/MP that the lock protocol has changed several times, > even in "mere" patches, and I've had these conversations since 1991, > so I'm not sure how helpful this document will be in defining the > current state of the art. Has anyone considered the idea of simply sitting down an implementing a FreeBSD specific NFS locking protocol? That would at least help out those people who are only running FreeBSD machines. Probably even better would be to work with the NetBSD, BSDI, and Linux (although I would rather not see the whole thing GPLed) groups and implement something acceptable to all parties. It would be better than having nothing at all. Properly implemented, it would simply appear to a Sun lockd/statd machine that there was no file locking available. -- Mike Pritchard mpp@legarto.minn.net "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 14:38:32 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA29248 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:38:32 -0700 Received: from macs.mxim.com (macs.mxim.com [204.17.143.130]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29101 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:38:20 -0700 Received: (from michaele@localhost) by macs.mxim.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA01900; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:40:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:40:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Enkelis To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPPD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am trying to setup a PPP server on my FreeBSD 2.0.5 box, and have run into a proublem. I can login from ttyd1 and talk to the world, then hangup. ttyd1 is then ready for next call. But when i login from ttyd0, i can only see my server. If I add a arp entry then i can talk to the world. When i hangup, I have to kill -9 the pppd process as it still thinks i am logged in! 204.17.143. ------------------------*------------------ | +--------------+ | ed0 |204.17.143.249|-+ |- - - - | ttyd0 |204.17.143.250|---[modem] |- - - - | ttyd1 |204.17.143.251|---[modem] +--------------+ -- /etc/passwd pppX:*:10:35:&:/home/pppX:/usr/sbin/pppd /etc/hosts 204.17.143.249 pppserv pppserv.mxim.com 204.17.143.250 remote1 remote1.mxim.com 204.17.143.251 remote2 remote2.mxim.com /etc/ppp/ options options.ttyd0 options.ttyd1 --------- ------------- ------------- crtscts :204.17.143.250 :204.17.143.251 kdebug 1 modem mru 1006 mtu 1006 proxyarp --- BEFORE PPP STARTUP --- ifconfig ed0 ed0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet 204.17.143.249 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 204.17.143.255 ifconfig ppp0 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1006 inet 204.17.143.249 --> 204.17.143.51 netmask 0xffffff00 netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default R59A143C UGSc 1 0 ed0 localhost localhost UH 1 0 lo0 204.17.143 link#1 UC 0 0 R59A143C aa:0:4:0:1:d4 UHLW 2 0 ed0 985 macs 8:0:20:13:39:9e UHLW 2 171 ed0 643 pppserv localhost UGHS 0 2 lo0 224 link#1 UCS 0 0 arp -a R59A143C.mxim.com (204.17.143.129) at aa:0:4:0:1:d4 macs.mxim.com (204.17.143.130) at 8:0:20:13:39:9e --- PPP STARTUP ttyd1 --- ifconfig ppp0 ppp0: flags=8051 mtu 1006 inet 204.17.143.249 --> 204.17.143.251 netmask 0xffffff00 netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default R59A143C UGSc 1 0 ed0 localhost localhost UH 1 0 lo0 204.17.143 link#1 UC 0 0 R59A143C aa:0:4:0:1:d4 UHLW 2 0 ed0 824 macs 8:0:20:13:39:9e UHLW 2 615 ed0 814 pppserv localhost UGHS 0 4 lo0 remote2 pppserv UH 0 0 ppp0 remote2 4:0:0:10:51:91 UHLS2 0 0 ed0 224 link#1 UCS 0 0 arp -a R59A143C.mxim.com (204.17.143.129) at aa:0:4:0:1:d4 macs.mxim.com (204.17.143.130) at 8:0:20:13:39:9e remote2 (204.17.143.251) at 4:0:0:10:51:91 permanent published (proxy only) --- PPP STARTUP ttyd0 --- ifconfig ppp0 ppp0: flags=8051 mtu 1006 inet 204.17.143.249 --> 204.17.143.250 netmask 0xffffff00 netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default R59A143C UGSc 1 0 ed0 localhost localhost UH 1 0 lo0 204.17.143 link#1 UC 0 0 R59A143C aa:0:4:0:1:d4 UHLW 2 0 ed0 764 macs 8:0:20:13:39:9e UHLW 2 765 ed0 764 pppserv localhost UGHS 0 6 lo0 remote1 pppserv UH 0 0 ppp0 224 link#1 UCS 0 0 arp -a R59A143C.mxim.com (204.17.143.129) at aa:0:4:0:1:d4 macs.mxim.com (204.17.143.130) at 8:0:20:13:39:9e ---------- Michael Enkelis 503-641-3737 Ext.2245 _ _ _ __ michaele@mxim.com ' ) ) ) / /) / ` / /) Michael Enkelis / / / o _. /_ __. _ // /-- __ /_ _ // o _ (503) 641 - 3737 x2245 / ' (_(_(__/ /_(_(_(<_(/_ (___, /) )_/ <_(<_(/_(_/_)_ From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 14 16:14:18 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA04526 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:14:18 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA04515 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:14:15 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA15602; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:14:05 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:14:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199507142314.QAA15602@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: davidg@Root.COM CC: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com, freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com, ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199507141426.HAA00160@corbin.Root.COM> (message from David Greenman on Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:26:37 -0700) Subject: Re: current breaks 2.0.5 binary From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * No. I did mention, however, that libkvm must be rebuilt: Oh, that's right. Sorry about that, I recompiled top after a make world (which rebuilds libkvm), and it now works fine. Thanks. Ports people: top-3.3.tgz on ftp.freebsd.org is the new top, and top-3.3-stable.tgz is the old one that should work on the 2.1 ("stable") -current. Satoshi P.S. Does the "freebsd-stable" mailing list exist now? I saw .info files and such on freefall but nothing in the archive...well, this may be the first message. :) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 01:12:23 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA28363 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 01:12:23 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA28345 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 01:12:18 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <55411>; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 10:12:04 +0200 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA18729 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 00:33:54 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 00:33:54 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey Message-Id: <199507142233.AAA18729@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: src/sbin/md5/md5.c too many arguments to function `MD5File' Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I saw this yesterday, but suppressed comment, having climbed a few ctm levels to src-cur 798 the problem ist still here: ----- ===> sbin/md5 cc -O2 -pipe -c /usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/md5/md5.c /usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/md5/md5.c: In function `main': /usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/md5/md5.c:70: too many arguments to function `MD5File' ------ So now I'm reporting it, so whoever broke it can hopefully fix it :-) Thanks ! Julian S From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 01:40:03 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA02942 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 01:40:03 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA02916 ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 01:39:59 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199507150839.BAA02916@freefall.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: src/sbin/md5/md5.c too many arguments to function `MD5File' To: jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Howard Stacey) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 01:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507142233.AAA18729@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Howard Stacey" at Jul 15, 95 00:33:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 664 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > ----- > ===> sbin/md5 > cc -O2 -pipe -c /usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/md5/md5.c > /usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/md5/md5.c: In function `main': > /usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/md5/md5.c:70: too many arguments to function `MD5File' > ------ > So now I'm reporting it, so whoever broke it can hopefully fix it :-) I guess: cd /usr/src/include make install -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Just that: dried leaves in boiling water ? From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 03:29:28 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA09824 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 03:29:28 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA09812 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 03:29:22 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA16821; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:26:03 +1000 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:26:03 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199507151026.UAA16821@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: root@profane.suburbia.net Subject: Re: ports/617: screen(1) locks up on startup and hangs tty Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>Description: >the screen binary shipped with 2.05 immediately hangs and locks the tty. Do other versions of screen work? My old version of screen-3.5.2 (August 1993 distribution) compiled on 11 Jan 1995 still works under FreeBSD-current. Screen is configured to use fifos instead of sockets (this required fixing many configuration bugs). FreeBSD-current has one fix for revoking of ttys that might be relevant. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 04:20:16 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA15560 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:20:16 -0700 Received: from pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (root@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu [129.101.114.109]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA15549 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:20:14 -0700 Received: from pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA06605 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:20:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199507151120.EAA06605@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: problems dumping large fs's? X-Real-Name: Faried Nawaz X-Address: Box 3582, Moscow, Id 83843-1914 X-Phone: 1 (208) 882 8896 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:20:06 -0700 From: Faried Nawaz Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi, i'm having problems dumping part of my /usr onto tape. /usr is local, ufs, and on an 850mb ide drive. big-brother: {1} df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 31775 13808 15425 47% / /dev/wd0s1e 15391 6336 7823 45% /var /dev/wd0s1f 695663 396186 243823 62% /usr procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc kernfs 1 1 0 100% /kern big-brother: {2} if i try to dump /var, i get big-brother# dump 0uf /dev/nrst0 /var DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jul 15 04:00:38 1995 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/rwd0s1e (/var) to /dev/nrst0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 6510 tape blocks on 0.17 tape(s). DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: DUMP: 6500 tape blocks on 1 volumes(s) DUMP: level 0 dump on Sat Jul 15 04:00:38 1995 DUMP: Closing /dev/nrst0 DUMP: DUMP IS DONE big-brother# i can restore tvf /dev/rst0 fine. if i try to dump /usr/local, i get big-brother# dump 0uf /dev/nrst0 /usr/local DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jul 15 04:02:37 1995 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /usr/local to /dev/nrst0 DUMP: bad sblock magic number DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. big-brother# is this a known problem? this is the first time i've tried dump, btw. tar and pax appear to operate without problems on /usr. faried From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 04:35:30 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA16275 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:35:30 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16259 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:35:26 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA03316; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:35:09 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507151135.EAA03316@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: problems dumping large fs's? To: fn@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (Faried Nawaz) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507151120.EAA06605@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu> from "Faried Nawaz" at Jul 15, 95 04:20:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 430 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > hi, > > i'm having problems dumping part of my /usr onto tape. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > /usr is local, ufs, and on an 850mb ide drive. > dump(8) dumps _complete_ file systems, not parts of them. You will have to dump /usr, not /usr/local. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 05:00:38 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA18137 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 05:00:38 -0700 Received: from mpp.minn.net (mpp.Minn.Net [204.157.201.242]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA18127 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 05:00:34 -0700 Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.minn.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA10917; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:00:24 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199507151200.HAA10917@mpp.minn.net> Subject: Re: problems dumping large fs's? To: fn@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (Faried Nawaz) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:00:24 -0500 (CDT) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507151120.EAA06605@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu> from "Faried Nawaz" at Jul 15, 95 04:20:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 980 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Faried Nawaz wrote: > > i'm having problems dumping part of my /usr onto tape. > /usr is local, ufs, and on an 850mb ide drive. > >... > > if i try to dump /usr/local, i get > > big-brother# dump 0uf /dev/nrst0 /usr/local > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jul 15 04:02:37 1995 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping /usr/local to /dev/nrst0 > DUMP: bad sblock magic number > DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. > big-brother# > > is this a known problem? this is the first time i've tried dump, btw. > tar and pax appear to operate without problems on /usr. Dump can only operate on entire file systems. You have no /usr/local file system, so dump fails. If you want to make tape backups of only part of a file system, use something else like tar, cpio, pax, etc... I'll admit that the error message you get isn't the greatest. -- Mike Pritchard mpp@legarto.minn.net "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 06:50:03 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA25199 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 06:50:03 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA25152 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 06:49:44 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA22673; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:48:04 +1000 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:48:04 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199507151348.XAA22673@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: peter@haywire.dialix.com Subject: Re: bin/613: send-pr reports wrong release Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>Description: >As you can see a few lines up, send-pr is _still_ claiming that the >"Release" is several months old, even though everything is as recent as >it can get, and compiled and installed. >The problem is, that the Makefile generates obj/send-pr from send-pr.sh >*once* and never, ever updates it, because there are no dependencies to >cause it to be regenerated. >>Fix: > >The makefile uses a sed command to substitute @DEFAULT_RELEASE@ with the >output of "uname -rsm" at build initial build time. IMHO, this has to be >done at run-time, otherwise the ">Release:" header is pretty much >meaningless. This is wrong for a different reason - it only works if the machine sending the mail is running the buggy version of FreeBSD. Machines that aren't connected to the net won't be sending the mail and machines that are connected may be running a different version. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 07:17:22 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA26944 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:17:22 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA26938 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:17:14 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA23348 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:13:36 +1000 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:13:36 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199507151413.AAA23348@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: slow nfsv3 writes Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The speed of writes seems to be slower for nfsv3 according to iozone: iozone 1 512: 9055 bytes/sec iozone 1 8192: 113028 bytes/sec Read speeds are good (800K and 1000K/sec) although this may be due to local caching (it would take too long to test a large file size at 9055 bytes/sec :-). I don't know exactly what the write speeds used to be. I remember something over 100K/sec and hoped for more. I don't remember such a low speed for the small block size, except for a Linux client using an unsuitable nfs block size. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 07:25:53 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA27255 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:25:53 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA27248 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:25:51 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA12886; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:25:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA00546; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:26:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199507151426.HAA00546@corbin.Root.COM> To: Bruce Evans cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slow nfsv3 writes In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Jul 95 00:13:36 +1000." <199507151413.AAA23348@godzilla.zeta.org.au> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:26:23 -0700 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >The speed of writes seems to be slower for nfsv3 according to iozone: > > iozone 1 512: 9055 bytes/sec > iozone 1 8192: 113028 bytes/sec > >Read speeds are good (800K and 1000K/sec) although this may be due to >local caching (it would take too long to test a large file size at >9055 bytes/sec :-). > >I don't know exactly what the write speeds used to be. I remember >something over 100K/sec and hoped for more. I don't remember such a >low speed for the small block size, except for a Linux client using >an unsuitable nfs block size. This is a known problem and started happening with some pre-2.0.5R changes. John has a work-around, but the problem needs to be better understood which is why I haven't done anything with his fix. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 07:33:12 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA27554 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:33:12 -0700 Received: (from dyson@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA27545 ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:33:10 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 07:33:10 -0700 From: John Dyson Message-Id: <199507151433.HAA27545@freefall.cdrom.com> To: bde@zeta.org.au, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slow nfsv3 writes Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The slow writes are due to a botch in vfs_bio. DG has a fix in hand testing it. If you want the fix, just send me a note... It is just a few lines. John dyson@root.com From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 08:27:09 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA28569 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 08:27:09 -0700 Received: from server.netcraft.co.uk (server.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA28563 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 08:27:05 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by server.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA17976 for FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:26:36 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199507151526.QAA17976@server.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: XFree86 and swap To: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current mailing list) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:26:35 +0100 (BST) Reply-to: paul@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 893 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thi seems a little excessive and is causing my box to run out of swapspace. load averages: 0.47, 0.51, 0.40 16:25:39 72 processes: 2 running, 70 sleeping Cpu states: 5.0% user, 0.0% nice, 5.0% system, 0.8% interrupt, 89.3% idle Memory: Real: 4404K/14948K Virt: 80452K/909264K Free: 1148K PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 14149 root 2 0 34308K 2296K run 51:18 10.74% 10.74% XF86_SVGA 17716 paul 2 0 504K 592K sleep 0:08 8.11% 8.11% xterm 17936 root 28 0 408K 276K run 0:04 0.98% 0.98% top It hasn't even been up a week. I'd have to kill X in /etc/weekly at this rate. -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 08:33:03 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA28694 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 08:33:03 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA28688 ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 08:32:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA10011; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 08:32:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199507151532.IAA10011@time.cdrom.com> To: paul@FreeBSD.org cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current mailing list) Subject: Re: XFree86 and swap In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:26:35 BST." <199507151526.QAA17976@server.netcraft.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 08:32:23 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What clients are you cycling through on that server? Also, have you tried linking it with gnu malloc? This should result in much better memory utilization, though with an unknown impact on stability. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 08:53:15 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA29419 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 08:53:15 -0700 Received: from server.netcraft.co.uk (server.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA29413 ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 08:53:11 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by server.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA18345; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:52:03 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199507151552.QAA18345@server.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: Re: XFree86 and swap To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:52:02 +0100 (BST) Cc: paul@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199507151532.IAA10011@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 15, 95 08:32:23 am Reply-to: paul@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 602 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who said > > What clients are you cycling through on that server? Also, have you > tried linking it with gnu malloc? This should result in much better > memory utilization, though with an unknown impact on stability. Mainly netscape, apart from the usual xterms and a few odds and ends. I might try gnu malloc, I'd say there's bug though to grab 34M of swap and not release it! -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 09:42:24 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA12502 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 09:42:24 -0700 Received: from irbs.irbs.com (irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA12496 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 09:42:20 -0700 Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA02357 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 12:42:16 -0400 From: John Capo Message-Id: <199507151642.MAA02357@irbs.irbs.com> Subject: Possible Bogus free()'s in ypserv To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-current) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 12:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: jc@irbs.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 847 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As an experiment, I built a system linked with gnu malloc. The only hitch so far is in ypserv. In server.c:read_database() there are several places where the data obtained from db->get() is being freed. In my case it crashes in free() from the calls at line 369 and 401. ckey.data is an odd value for one thing. The normal libc free() silently returns due to the magic check. Gnu free() wanders off on a bogus linked list. >From libc/stdlib/malloc.c:free() op = (union overhead *)((caddr_t)cp - sizeof (union overhead)); #ifdef DEBUG ASSERT(op->ov_magic == MAGIC); /* make sure it was in use */ #else if (op->ov_magic != MAGIC) return; /* sanity */ #endif So, should the data obtained from db->get() be freed and if so, why is it not malloced memory? -- John Capo From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 10:43:14 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA13593 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 10:43:14 -0700 Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi (root@hutcs.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA13587 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 10:43:12 -0700 Received: from shadows.cs.hut.fi by hutcs.cs.hut.fi with SMTP id AA25715 (5.65c8/HUTCS-S 1.4 for ); Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:43:07 +0300 Received: (hsu@localhost) by shadows.cs.hut.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) id UAA01456; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:43:08 +0300 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:43:08 +0300 Message-Id: <199507151743.UAA01456@shadows.cs.hut.fi> From: Heikki Suonsivu To: Pete Carah Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: Pete Carah's message of 2 Jul 1995 22:29:41 +0300 Subject: Re: kern/579: sio: RS_IBUFSIZE 256 too small Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I changed RS_IBUFSIZE from 256 to 4096, and the problem disappeared. >> It might be that a smaller amount would be sufficient (I don't mind I make this problem go away just by increasing ttyhog without touching ibufsize; this is why I don't think there is any interrupt latency problem; I tried increasing ttyhog instead of RS_IBUFSIZE. It looses less characters (but it still looses sometimes). But the random load-related reboots did not disappear. I'll go try increasing both RS_IBUFSIZE and TTHOG next. -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 12:50:04 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAB18105 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 12:50:04 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA18092 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 12:50:00 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA06784 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:46:04 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Sat, 15 Jul 95 23:46:03 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by astral.msk.su (8.6.8/8.6.6) id XAA00474; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:32:14 +0400 To: Bruce Evans , root@profane.suburbia.net Cc: current@freebsd.org References: <199507151026.UAA16821@godzilla.zeta.org.au> In-Reply-To: <199507151026.UAA16821@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans at Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:26:03 +1000 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:32:14 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= aka "Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage" X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: ports/617: screen(1) locks up on startup and hangs tty Lines: 20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 894 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199507151026.UAA16821@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Bruce Evans writes: >>>Description: >>the screen binary shipped with 2.05 immediately hangs and locks the tty. >Do other versions of screen work? My old version of screen-3.5.2 (August >1993 distribution) compiled on 11 Jan 1995 still works under FreeBSD-current. >Screen is configured to use fifos instead of sockets (this required fixing >many configuration bugs). FreeBSD-current has one fix for revoking of >ttys that might be relevant. I have all screen versions worked on several machines, it seems some outer problems involved. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 14:30:31 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA19921 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:30:31 -0700 Received: from legend (legend.txdirect.net [204.57.120.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA19915 ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:30:27 -0700 Received: from oasis (oasis.txdirect.net) by legend (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12389; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:26:21 -0500 Received: (from rsnow@localhost) by oasis (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA09215; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:17:11 -0500 Posted-Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:17:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:17:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow To: paul@FreeBSD.org Cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XFree86 and swap In-Reply-To: <199507151552.QAA18345@server.netcraft.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 15 Jul 1995, Paul Richards wrote: > In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who said > > > > What clients are you cycling through on that server? Also, have you > > tried linking it with gnu malloc? This should result in much better > > memory utilization, though with an unknown impact on stability. > > Mainly netscape, apart from the usual xterms and a few odds and > ends. Interesting. You may have seen my posts about "how to add swapfile?" because my swap kept getting eaten and never flushed. Last night I did a test and started X and everything looked fine until I ran Netscape and browsed around. When I finished my Xserver was 14M. (in about 45minutes) BTW, It stayed at 14MB when I exited Netscape. --- Rob Snow rsnow@txdirect.net From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 15:16:35 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA20759 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 15:16:35 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA20753 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 15:16:32 -0700 Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.144.4]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA01762 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:10:47 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA04109; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:10:41 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:10:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199507152210.AAA04109@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: multilingual cal(1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Support month names and weekdays for english, german, austrian and french. PS: uuencoded for 7bit gateways. 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You didn't recompile libkvm I guess :-) -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #5: Fri Jul 14 12:28:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 17:05:38 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA25814 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 17:05:38 -0700 Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [198.137.146.49]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA25796 ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 17:05:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA02450; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 18:04:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199507160004.SAA02450@rover.village.org> To: Rob Snow Subject: Re: XFree86 and swap Cc: paul@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:17:10 CDT Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 18:04:37 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : Interesting. You may have seen my posts about "how to add swapfile?" : because my swap kept getting eaten and never flushed. Last night I did : a test and started X and everything looked fine until I ran Netscape and : browsed around. When I finished my Xserver was 14M. (in about 45minutes) : : BTW, It stayed at 14MB when I exited Netscape. It won't give memory back to the system. Also, netscape (at least in some versions) eats huge amounts of server resources by creating largish pixmaps. At least that's what I've seen here with 1.0N. Purhaps that is your problem? Warner From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 18:57:12 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA00311 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 18:57:12 -0700 Received: from mpp.minn.net (mpp.Minn.Net [204.157.201.242]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA00304 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 18:57:09 -0700 Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.minn.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA00287 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:57:06 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199507160157.UAA00287@mpp.minn.net> Subject: current kernel panics at boot To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:57:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1805 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am unable to boot a -current kernel (supped within the last 1/2 hour). It panics at boot time right after the probes complete with the following message: panic: vm_page_alloc: offset not page aligned The panic is within a #DIAGNOSTIC ifdef block. The last good kernel I have was built from sources supped sometime during the morning on 7/13, and that kernel does contain the new vm changes. Here is a traceback from the dump. I don't have time right now to examine this any further. Reading symbol data from /usr/var/crash/kernel.12...done. IdlePTD 2c2000 panic: vm_page_alloc: offset not page aligned current pcb at 1ea420 (kgdb) bt #0 boot (arghowto=256) (../../i386/i386/machdep.c line 867) 867 (../../i386/i386/machdep.c) #1 0xf01185f5 in panic () #2 0xf01a46fc in vm_page_alloc (object=(vm_object_t) 0xf07a0500, offset=0x0000201c, page_req=0) (../../vm/vm_page.c line 553) #3 0xf019dbeb in vm_fault (map=(vm_map_t) 0xf07bd300, vaddr=0xefc0001c, fault_type=2, change_wiring=0) (../../vm/vm_fault.c line 314) #4 0xf01b1dcb in trap_pfault (frame=(struct trapframe *) 0xefbfffbc, usermode=1) (../../i386/i386/trap.c line 586) #5 0xf01b199b in trap (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = 2945024, tf_esi = -272638256, tf_ebp = -272638356, tf_isp = -272629788, tf_ebx = 8408, tf_edx = 1, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 4, tf_eip = 30117, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 66182, tf_esp = -272638404, tf_ss = 39}) (../../i386/i386/trap.c line 221) (kgdb) The first bad kernel I have is from sup run at 03:00 CST today (7/15), so whatever broke this probably went in between then and sometime during the morning on 7/13, although it could very well be the big vm change. -- Mike Pritchard mpp@legarto.minn.net "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 21:05:07 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA04102 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 21:05:07 -0700 Received: from netcom15.netcom.com (mantar@netcom15.netcom.com [192.100.81.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA04095 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 21:05:03 -0700 Received: by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA03213; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 21:03:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 21:03:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Manfred Antar X-Sender: mantar@netcom15 To: Mike Pritchard cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current kernel panics at boot In-Reply-To: <199507160157.UAA00287@mpp.minn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk the same thing happend to me last night the differences in the kernel was the new trap.c file from friday july 14.a kernel made before that file was supped worked fine. ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 647-4843 || ============================== From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 22:40:30 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA06381 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 22:40:30 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA06374 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 22:40:27 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA13477; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 22:23:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA01052; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 22:24:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199507160524.WAA01052@corbin.Root.COM> To: Mike Pritchard cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current kernel panics at boot In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Jul 95 20:57:06 CDT." <199507160157.UAA00287@mpp.minn.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 22:21:58 -0700 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I am unable to boot a -current kernel (supped within the >last 1/2 hour). It panics at boot time right after the probes >complete with the following message: > >panic: vm_page_alloc: offset not page aligned > >The panic is within a #DIAGNOSTIC ifdef block. The last good kernel >I have was built from sources supped sometime during the morning on >7/13, and that kernel does contain the new vm changes. > >Here is a traceback from the dump. I don't have time right now >to examine this any further. > >Reading symbol data from /usr/var/crash/kernel.12...done. >IdlePTD 2c2000 >panic: vm_page_alloc: offset not page aligned >current pcb at 1ea420 >(kgdb) bt >#0 boot (arghowto=256) (../../i386/i386/machdep.c line 867) >867 (../../i386/i386/machdep.c) >#1 0xf01185f5 in panic () >#2 0xf01a46fc in vm_page_alloc (object=(vm_object_t) 0xf07a0500, offset=0x0000201c, page_req=0) (../../vm/vm_page.c line 553) >#3 0xf019dbeb in vm_fault (map=(vm_map_t) 0xf07bd300, vaddr=0xefc0001c, fault_type=2, change_wiring=0) (../../vm/vm_fault.c line 314) >#4 0xf01b1dcb in trap_pfault (frame=(struct trapframe *) 0xefbfffbc, usermode=1) (../../i386/i386/trap.c line 586) >#5 0xf01b199b in trap (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = 2945024, tf_esi = -272638256, tf_ebp = -272638356, tf_isp = -272629788, tf_ebx = 8408, tf_edx = 1, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 4, tf_eip = 30117, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 66182, tf_esp = -272638404, tf_ss = 39}) (../../i386/i386/trap.c line 221) >(kgdb) > > >The first bad kernel I have is from sup run at 03:00 CST today (7/15), >so whatever broke this probably went in between then and sometime >during the morning on 7/13, although it could very well be the >big vm change. I'll fix it tonight. Thanks for the report. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 23:14:51 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA06761 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:14:51 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA06752 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:14:37 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA16321 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:09:58 +1000 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:09:58 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199507160609.QAA16321@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: nfs leaves unreferenced files or blocks Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk For a:/usr nfs-mounted on /usr, the space for files created, written to and deleted by nfs is not recovered when the files are deleted, or when a:/usr is unmounted. It is recovered when system `a' is rebooted. This is with -current after the nfs speed fix in vfs_bio.c and the buggy fix in trap.c but before the second fix to trap.c. `iozone auto' now reports nfs write speeds of approx. 100K/sec for all iozone block sizes and soon fills up the nfs-mounted file system. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 23:44:28 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA07312 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:44:28 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA07306 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:44:24 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA13535; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:42:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA00170; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:43:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199507160643.XAA00170@corbin.Root.COM> To: Bruce Evans cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs leaves unreferenced files or blocks In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Jul 95 16:09:58 +1000." <199507160609.QAA16321@godzilla.zeta.org.au> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:40:53 -0700 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >For a:/usr nfs-mounted on /usr, the space for files created, written to and >deleted by nfs is not recovered when the files are deleted, or when a:/usr >is unmounted. It is recovered when system `a' is rebooted. > >This is with -current after the nfs speed fix in vfs_bio.c and the buggy >fix in trap.c but before the second fix to trap.c. Get the recent trap.c fix. I'm not able to reproduce the problem here - it works as expected for me. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 23:45:06 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA07385 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:45:06 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA07368 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:45:00 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA13544; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:44:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA00180; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:45:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199507160645.XAA00180@corbin.Root.COM> To: Bruce Evans cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs leaves unreferenced files or blocks In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Jul 95 16:09:58 +1000." <199507160609.QAA16321@godzilla.zeta.org.au> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:43:32 -0700 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >For a:/usr nfs-mounted on /usr, the space for files created, written to and >deleted by nfs is not recovered when the files are deleted, or when a:/usr >is unmounted. It is recovered when system `a' is rebooted. > >This is with -current after the nfs speed fix in vfs_bio.c and the buggy >fix in trap.c but before the second fix to trap.c. Nevermind my last message; this only happens if the _server_ is running -current (e.g. it is not a client problem). I am able to reproduce the bug here, but I don't think it is related to any of the recent changes. I think it is related to the NFSv3 stuff. Shouldn't be too difficult to fix. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 15 23:59:43 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA08470 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:59:43 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA08462 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:59:34 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA18041; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:55:57 +1000 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:55:57 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199507160655.QAA18041@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, davidg@Root.COM Subject: Re: nfs leaves unreferenced files or blocks Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>For a:/usr nfs-mounted on /usr, the space for files created, written to and >>deleted by nfs is not recovered when the files are deleted, or when a:/usr > Nevermind my last message; this only happens if the _server_ is running >-current (e.g. it is not a client problem). I am able to reproduce the bug >here, but I don't think it is related to any of the recent changes. I think it >is related to the NFSv3 stuff. Shouldn't be too difficult to fix. My server is running -current from 3 days ago (its a little old in case the vm changes are buggy :-). Bruce