From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 9 14:41:05 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA15940 for doc-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 14:41:05 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA15934 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 14:41:03 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id XAA15589 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 23:40:55 +0200 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id XAA18698 ; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 23:40:54 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.frmug.fr.net (8.7.Beta.9/keltia-uucp-2.2) id WAA01153; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 22:05:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199507092005.WAA01153@keltia.frmug.fr.net> Subject: Linuxdoc 1.2 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD documentation list), freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Hackers' list) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 22:05:11 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-19950709 ctm#861 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: doc-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk The 1.2 version of linuxdoc-sgml by Matt Welsh is out. It consists of bug fixes and TeXinfo support. John, could you please see if we can integrate there changes in your scripts ? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950709 #1: Sun Jul 9 16:28:41 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 10 10:42:09 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA16750 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:42:09 -0700 Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (emory.mathcs.emory.edu [128.140.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA16728 ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:42:04 -0700 Received: from bagend.UUCP by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.14) via UUCP id AA13252 ; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:42:02 -0400 Received: by bagend.atl.ga.us (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVMpP-0004pHC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:41 EDT Message-Id: From: jan@bagend.atl.ga.us (Jan Isley) Subject: FAQ; setting up a home system running FreeBSD To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Doc), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 13:41:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1350 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk There a legions of would be FreeBSD users out there who will have the same questions I am working through. I have been using Unix for many years... but not BSD, not even a current SysV, SysVR2! For my needs, networking is a serial port and a modem that does uucp to a dozen other sites, not just a smart host. I looked at sendmail 10 years ago, took two aspirin and got smail and never looked back. Demons (sp :-) what are they? Do I need them? You get the drift? The FAQ answers some of these questions but there are a hundred more that someone new to BSD will have. Subject: FAQ; How to set up a home computer running FreeBSD what are all of these things in /etc that end in "*d"? and do I need them? why? why not? sendmail ... reading the Bat book leaves me more confused than ever before ... how do I set up sendmail to know about a smart host and other local uucp connections? Host? I have a host? dummy network device? bind named gated timed duh...d, etc... Books? At the local computer store there are 473 books about SysV, 27 books about Linux, and one book about BSD 4.3. !?! Yes, if I get lots of really good suggestions, questions and answers, I will turn them into a FAQ and maintain it too! thanks -- Jan Isley If you couldn't find any weirdness, maybe we'll just have to make some! -- Hobbes From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 11 08:48:07 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24906 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:48:07 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA24899 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:48:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA16965 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:49:51 -0400 From: jfieber@grendel.csc.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199507111549.LAA16965@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Quick start installation To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 488 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Having recieved one too many "I want to install FreeBSD but where do I start!" questions, I've started a "quickstart" page. Please take a look at: http://www.freebsd.org/How/quickstart.html It is definately DRAFT status and there is no "public" link to it yet. Ultimately, this should be the first section in the installation chapter followed by the more detailed instructions (which need to be rewritten). === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ========== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 11 12:21:56 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA01468 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 12:21:56 -0700 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (root@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA01461 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 12:21:49 -0700 Received: from Ðãs’³6 æsá$6¢æsP by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA16925; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 12:20:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 12:20:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199507111920.MAA16925@netcom11.netcom.com> X-Mailer: NCSA Mosaic/2.0.0 Final Beta (Windows x86) X-URL: http://freefall.cdrom.com/How/ From: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Create Group In FreeBSD 2.0.5 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, experts I read the FAQ of FreeBSD. The FAQ mentions how to easily add new users using command "adduser" but I did not find the command that I can create groups. Can anyone give me some advice? By the way, is FreeBSD 2.0.5 compatibe with SunOS4.1 because Internet News is distributed to compile and run under SunOS4.1 (without using and other POSIX facilities) by defaults? I am trying to run Usenet News on FreeBSD. Thanks in advance. Ruiyuan Jiang System Administrator ADVANTAGE kbs, Inc. rjiang@akbs.com (908) 287-2236 FAX (908) 287-3193 From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 11 14:09:04 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA04486 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:09:04 -0700 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (root@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04480 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:09:03 -0700 Received: from Ðãs’³6 æsá$6¢æsP by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA29378; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:07:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:07:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199507112107.OAA29378@netcom11.netcom.com> X-Mailer: NCSA Mosaic/2.0.0 Final Beta (Windows x86) X-URL: http://freefall.cdrom.com/How/ From: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Uncompress the compressed files Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, experts: I am sorry that I have some many questions. I went to pub-> packages-2.0.5 -> news of ftp.freebsd.org. I downloaded several files such as inn-1.4.tgz. The problem that I've got is I don't know how to uncompress these files. I know how to uncompress *.tar.Z file but I don't know how to uncompress *.tgz files. I asked my colleagues and nobody can give me the answer. Can any expert give me some advice? Thanks in advance. Ruiyuan Jiang System Administrator ADVANTAGE kbs, Inc. rjiang@akbs.com Lotus Notes Business Partner HP-UX Business Partner (908) 287-2236 FAX (908) 287-3193 From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 11 14:18:03 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA04832 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:18:03 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04825 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 14:18:01 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id XAA15770 ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 23:17:53 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id XAA05195 ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 23:17:53 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199507112117.XAA05195@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: Uncompress the compressed files To: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 23:17:52 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507112107.OAA29378@netcom11.netcom.com> from "Ruiyuan Jiang" at Jul 11, 95 02:07:49 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 626 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am sorry that I have some many questions. I went to > pub-> packages-2.0.5 -> news of ftp.freebsd.org. I downloaded several > files such as inn-1.4.tgz. The problem that I've got is I don't know how > to uncompress these files. I know how to uncompress *.tar.Z file but I > don't know how to uncompress *.tgz files. I asked my colleagues and > nobody can give me the answer. Can any expert give me some advice? > Thanks in advance. man pkg_add or man pkg_manage -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 12 03:21:37 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA29231 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 03:21:37 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA29225 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 03:21:34 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA05825; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 03:21:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 03:21:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199507121021.DAA05825@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: diff for ports.sgml From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello doc-world, I took a look at the latest ports.sgml, and I think I want to change some stuff. Here are my diffs. By the way, I would like to add a section for dependencies and another for getting most up-to-date ports stuff. Should I just write them and send them here? Is there somebody in charge of this file that I should talk to? Thanks Satoshi ======= --- ports.sgml.old Sat Jul 8 02:59:24 1995 +++ ports.sgml Wed Jul 12 03:17:27 1995 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ necessary to configure and compile the program under FreeBSD. This keeps the entire system down to a manageable size, with the current system having over 300 ports in the master source tree and yet taking -up no more than a few tens of megabytes. +up less than ten megabytes. How does the system compile with no source code? @@ -50,15 +50,21 @@ Compiling ports from CDROM -

The ports collection is easy to use from CDROM, and all you need do -is create a "link tree" to it using the ``lndir'' command that comes -with the XFree86 distribution. Find a location with some -free space and create a directory there, then invoking the lndir -command with the full pathname of the ``ports'' directory on the CDROM -as an argument (this might be, for example, something like: ``lndir +

The ports collection is easy to use from CDROM, and all you need to +do is to create a "link tree" to it using the ``lndir'' command that +comes with the XFree86 distribution. Find a location with +some free space and create a directory there, and make a symbolic link +from /usr/ports to that directory. Then invoke the lndir command with +the full pathname of the ``ports'' directory on the CDROM as an +argument (this might be, for example, something like: ``lndir /cdrom/ports''). Then you can build ports directly off the CDROM by building them in the link tree you've created. +Note that there are some ports for which we can't provide the original +source in the CDROM due to licensing limitations. In that case, +you'll need to look at the next section (). + Compiling ports using an Internet connection

The ports collection can also use an auto-fetch system to keep @@ -69,15 +75,16 @@ mind heavy usage of your telephone. If you don't want heavy network usage when you compile your ports tree, you can pre-fetch the necessary tarballs beforehand and put them into /usr/ports/distfiles -(or wherever DISTDIR points) by hand. A good way to see what files a -port is going to need is to cd to that port's directory and do a -``make -n fetch'' to see what it does. +by hand. A good way to see what files a port is going to need is to +cd to that port's directory and do a ``make fetch-list'' to see what +it does. The output of ``make fetch-list'' can also be used as a +shell script to fetch the ports' tarballs at a well-connected machine. You can also chose to get the source files either from the master FTP site as defined in the relevant Makefile (in the MASTER_SITES line), or some FreeBSD mirror site also carrying a set of distfiles, as does the master FTP site on ftp.FreeBSD.org (aka ftp.cdrom.com) in -the directory /pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles. Note that the files in +the directory /pub/FreeBSD/distfiles. Note that the files in that directory are not guarenteed to be kept up to date - this is a volunteer project! We can't make any guarantees about the mirror sites either - they are obviously under independant control and don't @@ -112,7 +119,7 @@ bug! Forget it. This is the easiest for most - very few of the programs in - ports can be classed as `essential'! + ports can be classified as `essential'! Grab the pre-compiled package from a ftp server. The ``master'' package collection is in: @@ -121,7 +128,8 @@ though check your local mirror first, please! These are more likely to work (on the whole) than trying to compile from - source, and a lot faster! + source, and a lot faster! Use the pkg_add or pkg_manage program to + install them to your system. I've ported a program and I want to make a port out of it. What now? @@ -133,8 +141,8 @@ I've got a good port, what now? -

Upload the fixed version to freefall.cdrom.com /pub/incoming or -ftp.FreeBSD.org /pub/FreeBSD/incoming and send e-mail to +

Upload the fixed version to ftp://freefall.cdrom.com/pub/incoming or +ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming and send e-mail to ports@FreeBSD.org with the filename and details. Someone on the all-volunteer `ports committee' will (hopefully) look it over and commit it to the ports collection if they like the looks of it. @@ -165,7 +173,7 @@ weirdness is due to the lack of assumptions about anything, which is necessary due to the generic nature of these files). Also check that you have an up-to-date copy, as the file can change from minute to -minute. A reasonably up-to-date copy can be found in: +minute. The most up-to-date copy can be found in: From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 12 06:39:27 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA04689 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 06:39:27 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04683 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 06:39:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA23812 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:41:13 -0400 From: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199507121341.JAA23812@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: info on making packages To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 244 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We have a section in the handbook on creating a port, but there is nothing on making a package out of it. Any takers? (I've personally never made a package...) -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ========== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 12 08:00:19 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA07098 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:00:19 -0700 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (root@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA07087 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:00:16 -0700 Received: from Ðãs’³6 æsá$6¢æsP by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA09911; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 07:59:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 07:59:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199507121459.HAA09911@netcom11.netcom.com> X-Mailer: NCSA Mosaic/2.0.0 Final Beta (Windows x86) X-URL: http://freefall.cdrom.com/How/ From: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Making News Package Work on FreeBSD 2.0.5 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, FreeBSD experts: I downloaded Usenet News package from /pub/FreeBSD/packages-2.0.5/news/inn/inn-1.4.tgz (I don't care which packages such as cnews, nntp are fine for me) and /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.0.5/news/inn/....(makefile and its subdirectory files)from ftp.freebsd.org using my FreeBSD 2.0.5 machine. I created a temporary directory and extracted the file inn-1.4.tgz under the directory. I checked all the files that I extracted but I can't find any installation files such as readme file, etc. Can anyone give me any advice, please? Thanks in advance. Ruiyuan Jiang System Administrator ADVANTAGE kbs, Inc. rjiang@akbs.com (908) 287-2236 FAX (908) 287-3193 From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 12 08:30:54 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA08740 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:30:54 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA08730 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:30:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA24780; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:32:10 -0400 From: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199507121532.LAA24780@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Re: Making News Package Work on FreeBSD 2.0.5 To: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507121459.HAA09911@netcom11.netcom.com> from "Ruiyuan Jiang" at Jul 12, 95 07:59:03 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 844 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ruiyuan Jiang writes: > > Hi, FreeBSD experts: > > I downloaded Usenet News package from > /pub/FreeBSD/packages-2.0.5/news/inn/inn-1.4.tgz (I don't care which > packages such as cnews, nntp are fine for me) and > /pub/FreeBSD/ports-2.0.5/news/inn/....(makefile and its subdirectory > files)from ftp.freebsd.org using my FreeBSD 2.0.5 machine. I created a > temporary directory and extracted the file inn-1.4.tgz under the > directory. I checked all the files that I extracted but I can't find any > installation files such as readme file, etc. Can anyone give me any > advice, please? Thanks in advance. You need only the port or the package, not both. To install the package, simply type: pkg_add inn-1.4.tgz and the rest is automatic. -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ========== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 12 08:34:02 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA08888 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:34:02 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA08882 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:34:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA24798; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:35:44 -0400 From: jfieber@grendel.csc.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199507121535.LAA24798@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Re: diff for ports.sgml To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507121021.DAA05825@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami" at Jul 12, 95 03:21:31 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 486 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Satoshi Asami writes: > By the way, I would like to add a section for dependencies and another > for getting most up-to-date ports stuff. Should I just write them and > send them here? Yup! I'd also like to see a *short* quick-start sections "Packages for the impatient" and "Ports for the impatient". (not necessairly those titles exactly :) They can then be followed by the more detailed text. -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ========== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 12 09:09:50 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA10274 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:09:50 -0700 Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (emory.mathcs.emory.edu [128.140.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA10264 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:09:48 -0700 Received: from bagend.UUCP by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.14) via UUCP id AA06667 ; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:09:39 -0400 Received: by bagend.atl.ga.us (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW4JX-0004pHC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:07 EDT Message-Id: From: jan@bagend.atl.ga.us (Jan Isley) Subject: Re: Making News Package Work on FreeBSD 2.0.5 To: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507121459.HAA09911@netcom11.netcom.com> from "Ruiyuan Jiang" at Jul 12, 95 07:59:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 559 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ruiyuan Jiang wrote: > I downloaded Usenet News package from > /pub/FreeBSD/packages-2.0.5/news/inn/inn-1.4.tgz > ... > I checked all the files that I extracted but I can't find any > installation files such as readme file, etc. Can anyone give me any > advice, please? Thanks in advance. There is a (4 part?) FAQ on INN posted to news.software.b that should answer all of your questions. -- Jan Isley If you couldn't find any weirdness, maybe we'll just have to make some! -- Hobbes From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 14 09:08:37 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA16000 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:08:37 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA15994 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:08:35 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04922; Fri, 14 Jul 95 10:08:34 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA07635; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:11:37 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:11:37 -0600 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9507141611.AA07635@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: jfieber@grendel.csc.smith.edu Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507111549.LAA16965@grendel.csc.smith.edu> (jfieber@grendel.csc.smith.edu) Subject: Re: Quick start installation Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "John" == John Fieber writes: John> Please take a look at: John> http://www.freebsd.org/How/quickstart.html Looks great. Comments, respectfully submitted: * Make the link on step number 1 (supported configurations) go right to the supported configurations page, instead of to `Installing FreeBSD'; this'll give the reader one-click access to that information instead of two. * Concern: when using dd to make a floppy from an image, you might need to specify the block size on some systems. (I thought you needed `bs=18b' on FreeBSD as well!) Maybe we should mention this. * In step five, lowercase-ize ``the'' after the comma. * In the first paragraph under ``If something goes wrong...'' make the link to supported configurations go right to supported configurations (just like the first bullet above). * In the second paragraph under ``If something goes wrong...'' the sentence that starts ``This is most likely to be necessary if...'' seems a bit awkward. How about replacing it with something like ``You'll need to do this if...'' * Replace ``[more to come...]'' with substance. :-) I think this'll be a really nice resource for those who are impatient or who might just want to quickly get their feet wet with FreeBSD. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA Too bad Lassie didn't know how to ice skate, because then if she was in Holland on vacation in winter and someone said "Lassie, go skate for help," she could. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 14 14:38:46 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA29435 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:38:46 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29408 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:38:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA12422; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:40:21 -0400 From: jfieber@grendel.csc.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199507142140.RAA12422@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Re: Quick start installation To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9507141611.AA07635@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Jul 14, 95 10:11:37 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 472 Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly writes: > * Concern: when using dd to make a floppy from an image, you might > need to specify the block size on some systems. (I thought you > needed `bs=18b' on FreeBSD as well!) Maybe we should mention this. I don't think you *need* the blocksize, but I think an appropriate blocksize makes things go a little faster. Am I wrong? Anybody know optimal block sizes? -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ========== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 14 15:06:50 1995 Return-Path: doc-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA03332 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:06:50 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.atinc.com [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA03311 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:06:38 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id SAA06738; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:00:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:00:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Quick start installation To: John Fieber cc: Sean Kelly , doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507142140.RAA12422@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: doc-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, John Fieber wrote: > Sean Kelly writes: > > * Concern: when using dd to make a floppy from an image, you might > > need to specify the block size on some systems. (I thought you > > needed `bs=18b' on FreeBSD as well!) Maybe we should mention this. > > I don't think you *need* the blocksize, but I think an > appropriate blocksize makes things go a little faster. Am I > wrong? Anybody know optimal block sizes? blocksize or bs is not required, but it does make the thing move faster. try either bs=18b or bs=9k, same difference. its like cutting a tar tape with a blocking factor set toa reasonable value as opposed to setting it to 1. Jonathan M. 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