From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 28 15:17:51 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA20260 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 15:17:51 -0800 Received: from eunet.fi (eunet.fi [192.26.119.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA20254 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 15:17:48 -0800 Received: from gate.fidata.fi by eunet.fi with SMTP id AA28936 (5.65c+l/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 1 Mar 1995 01:17:38 +0200 Received: from mips.fidata.fi by gate.fidata.fi with SMTP (5.65c/1.50PH) id AA09771; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 01:17:36 +0200 Received: (from tomppa@localhost) by mips.fidata.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) id BAA04221; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 01:17:32 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 01:17:32 +0200 From: Tomi Vainio Message-Id: <199502282317.BAA04221@mips.fidata.fi> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Novell NE3200 Bus Master Ethernet Card Driver Reply-To: tomppa@fidata.fi Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got Novell NE3200 EISA ethernet card without any manuals or documentation. Can I use FreeBSD with this card or is someone writing driver for it? Tomppa From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 1 22:25:44 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id WAA21225 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:25:44 -0800 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA21218; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:25:43 -0800 From: olsenc@ichips.intel.com Received: from hermes.intel.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyfgz21919; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 01:25:39 -0500 Received: from [134.134.50.200] by hermes.intel.com (5.65/10.0i); Wed, 1 Mar 95 22:25:38 -0800 Received: from dtt030 by ichips.intel.com (5.64+/10.0i); Wed, 1 Mar 95 22:25:33 -0800 Received: by dtt030.intel.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/10.0i); Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:25:31 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:25:31 -0800 Message-Id: <9503020625.AA30072@dtt030.intel.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Questions about support for NCR 53c825???? Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello: I posted on the net and got no response on this. Is there support, or plans for support, for the NCR fast-wide SCSI II chipset? I've read the FAQ, and I saw the generic 810 support. Would fast-wide really be necessary? Opinions would be very appreciated. -Clint From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 1 23:04:19 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id XAA24496 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 23:04:19 -0800 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA24487; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 23:04:15 -0800 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id XAA13606; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 23:00:12 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199503020700.XAA13606@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Questions about support for NCR 53c825???? To: olsenc@ichips.intel.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 23:00:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9503020625.AA30072@dtt030.intel.com> from "olsenc@ichips.intel.com" at Mar 1, 95 10:25:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1666 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Hello: > > I posted on the net and got no response on this. Is there > support, or plans for support, for the NCR fast-wide SCSI > II chipset? > > I've read the FAQ, and I saw the generic 810 support. There is already support in the driver for the 53C825 chip: hookturn# dmesg FreeBSD 2.1.0-Development #0: Sun Feb 26 13:00:35 PST 1995 rgrimes@hookturn.aac.dev.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/HOOKTURN ... ncr0 int a irq 11 on pci0:17 reg20: virtual=0xf28fc000 physical=0xf0000000 I currently don't have any wide devices so I can't actually say that it works with wide devices, but it works just fine with fast scsi-ii devices. I am also running the same controller under 2.0R without problems. > Would fast-wide really be necessary? If you are using very fast disk drives wide can be a payoff. Note that drives like the Quantum Empire 2100S are capabile of 5MB/sec transfer rates, so 2 of them on a fast scsi-ii bus pretty much kill the scsi bus. And these are only 5400 RPM drives, now image what happens if you are running a couple of Quantum Grand Prix 4301 7200 RPM drives, these should do close to 6.7MB/sec. For that you would really want to go with a wide controller and wide drives. > Opinions would be very appreciated. If you want top performance the premium for fast wide scsi disks can bring some real benifits. For a single user system it is probably not worth it, but for a server or multiuser system it can be money very well spent. > -Clint -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 2 11:15:39 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA00627 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:15:39 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA00620 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:15:38 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.10/jtpda-5.0) with SMTP id RAA00416 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 17:10:36 +0100 Received: by blaise.ibp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29292; Thu, 2 Mar 95 17:11:32 +0100 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <9503021611.AA29292@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: ASUS motherboard To: hardware@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Hardware List) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 17:11:31 +0100 (MET) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.1.0-Development ctm#407 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 745 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Someone is planning a group purchase of ASUS MB with the following characteristics. Does someone know it and can comment ? ASUS Pentium 75/90/100mhz PCI/I-P54SP4 Mother Board SIS 85C50X Chipset, Baby AT size, Award BIOS, Two integrated SMC 37C665 16550 High Speed I/O, 2 PCI IDE(EIDE); 2 ser; 1 para(ECP, EPP), 2.88MB Floppy Four High Density 72-pin SIMM slots for 128MB, Accepts Parity and non-parity SIMMS, Green, Flash EPROM and NCR SCSI BIOS (upgrade by ftp available) Cache Upgrades to 1MB Cache, 3 x 16-bit ISA ; 3 x 32-bit PCI ; 1 PCI/ISA. (7 en tot.) I don't care for the EIDE interface. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.1.0-Development #14: Sun Feb 26 16:31:40 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 2 14:29:15 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA11453 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:29:15 -0800 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA11437 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:29:09 -0800 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA15249; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:27:26 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199503022227.OAA15249@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: ASUS motherboard To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:27:26 -0800 (PST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9503021611.AA29292@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at Mar 2, 95 05:11:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1442 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Someone is planning a group purchase of ASUS MB with the following > characteristics. Does someone know it and can comment ? > > ASUS Pentium 75/90/100mhz PCI/I-P54SP4 Mother Board > SIS 85C50X Chipset, Baby AT size, Award BIOS, > Two integrated SMC 37C665 16550 High Speed I/O, > 2 PCI IDE(EIDE); 2 ser; 1 para(ECP, EPP), 2.88MB Floppy > Four High Density 72-pin SIMM slots for 128MB, > Accepts Parity and non-parity SIMMS, > Green, Flash EPROM and NCR SCSI BIOS (upgrade by ftp available) > Cache Upgrades to 1MB Cache, > 3 x 16-bit ISA ; 3 x 32-bit PCI ; 1 PCI/ISA. (7 en tot.) > > I don't care for the EIDE interface. I don't have first hand experience with this board, as I was waiting for the new PCI/I-P54TP4/90 which just came in FedX today. This is the newer board based upon the Intel Triton chip set, I'll let the list know how it tests out. I do have an ECS SI54P AIO board that has the exact same specs as the ASUS board that works just fine. I have seen one problems with the SiS 85C50X chip set, it does not seem to like my bt946C, hard hang on power up. It runs both my ncr810 and ncr825 controllers just fine. I have not tested it yet with the aha2940 since it also just came in today. I am wondering what the price looks like on this ``group purchase''. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 2 14:48:11 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA12182 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:48:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA12175; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:48:09 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert), hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ASUS motherboard In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Mar 95 14:27:26 PST." <199503022227.OAA15249@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 14:48:09 -0800 Message-ID: <12174.794184489@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I don't have first hand experience with this board, as I was waiting for > the new PCI/I-P54TP4/90 which just came in FedX today. This is the newer > board based upon the Intel Triton chip set, I'll let the list know how it > tests out. Woo! I am *definitely* interested in that one.. We have 5 of the ASUS based machines now and I'm considering building another one but will hold off until you deliver your verdict. As far as the Bt controllers go, I have to say that they're still a little twitchy, even with the latest firmware revision (4.21 I believe?) and I, too, have the problem where the machine hangs on reboot after running the Bt's BIOS. It only happens occasionally enough to be annoying, not to fix! :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 2 15:25:00 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA13871 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:25:00 -0800 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA13851; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:24:54 -0800 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA15404; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:24:07 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199503022324.PAA15404@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: ASUS motherboard To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:24:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <12174.794184489@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 2, 95 02:48:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1453 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I don't have first hand experience with this board, as I was waiting for > > the new PCI/I-P54TP4/90 which just came in FedX today. This is the newer > > board based upon the Intel Triton chip set, I'll let the list know how it > > tests out. > > Woo! I am *definitely* interested in that one.. We have 5 of the ASUS > based machines now and I'm considering building another one but will hold > off until you deliver your verdict. Unfortanetly I won't be able to stress it too much, I don't own any EDO simms which is one of the things that should make this board faster than the Neptune chip set. It also came in the standard SRAM cache instead of the burst/sync cache and you can't field upgrade it. > As far as the Bt controllers go, I have to say that they're still a > little twitchy, even with the latest firmware revision (4.21 I > believe?) and I, too, have the problem where the machine hangs on > reboot after running the Bt's BIOS. It only happens occasionally > enough to be annoying, not to fix! :-) This is not a problem on ``reboot'' it is a power up problem, you can't even get to the system BIOS :-(. I didn't play with it much, I will when I get a chance. It really looks to be a hard lockup of the machine, heck my #9GXE led even stays red :-(. > Jordan -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 2 16:11:09 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA16497 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:11:09 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA16487 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:11:05 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.10/jtpda-5.0) with SMTP id BAA05596 ; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 01:09:56 +0100 Received: by blaise.ibp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01728; Fri, 3 Mar 95 01:10:51 +0100 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <9503030010.AA01728@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: ASUS motherboard To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 01:10:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199503022227.OAA15249@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Mar 2, 95 02:27:26 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.1.0-Development ctm#407 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 713 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I don't have first hand experience with this board, as I was waiting for > the new PCI/I-P54TP4/90 which just came in FedX today. This is the newer > board based upon the Intel Triton chip set, I'll let the list know how it > tests out. Thanks. > chip set, it does not seem to like my bt946C, hard hang on power up. It > runs both my ncr810 and ncr825 controllers just fine. I have not tested > it yet with the aha2940 since it also just came in today. > > I am wondering what the price looks like on this ``group purchase''. They say 1800 FF about 300 US$. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.1.0-Development #14: Sun Feb 26 16:31:40 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 2 22:02:18 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id WAA02952 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:02:18 -0800 Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA02946 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:02:16 -0800 Received: from hermes.intel.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyfkq00887; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 01:02:01 -0500 Received: from [134.134.50.200] by hermes.intel.com (5.65/10.0i); Thu, 2 Mar 95 22:01:57 -0800 Received: from dtt030 by ichips.intel.com (5.64+/10.0i); Thu, 2 Mar 95 22:01:53 -0800 Received: by dtt030.intel.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/10.0i); Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:01:52 -0800 Message-Id: <9503030601.AA26655@dtt030.intel.com> Subject: ASUS motherboard info To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:01:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Clint Olsen" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2493 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, the deal is that the new ASUS Triton motherboard is here, and it would be a good substitute for the SIS version. Having not used either, I'm just basing my opinions on previous track records of Intel's chipsets versus the rest of the crowd. Here's the info on the board: ASUS PCI/I-P55TP4 Mainboard This is the NEW ASUS Mother Board with the NEW INTEL TRITON CHIPSET. It can use standard SIMMS or the new EDO SIMMS. It comes in two models. The first uses the standard Asynchronous SRAM Cache. The second, more expensive model uses the new Pipelined Burst SRAM for Cache. Specifications: Intel #5 ZIF Socket for CPU Pentium Processor 75/90/100 MHz (P54C/CT) Intel Triton Chipset 4 32-bit PCI and 4 16-bit ISA Slots Supports Pipelined Burst SRAM or Asynchronous SRAM Cache 256KB (512KB for option on Asynchronous MBs.) Four 72-pin SIMM Sockets Support 8MB to 128MB Uses 4/8/16/32MB 72-pin DRAM Module with 70ns Fast Page Mode or EDO DRAM On Board Super I/O; 1 Floppy Port (2.88MB); 2 Serial Ports (16550 Fast UART Compatible) 1 Parallel Port (ECP, EPP Port) On Board PCI EIDE; 2 x PCI Bus Master EIDE ports (up to 4 IDE devices) Support: PIO Mode 3 & 4: 17 MB/Sec. (Max) DMA Mode 2: 22 MB/Sec. (Max) Award Pentium PCI BIOS and NCR PCI SCSI BIOS 1M-bit Flash EPROM Board Size: Baby AT Size, 33.3cm x 22.1cm (13.1" x 8.7") 256K Pipelined Burst SRAM................$ 389 IN STOCK! 256K Asynchronous SRAM...................$ 319 IN STOCK! This info is from a company called Netexpress (finger netex@tdl.com). His plan file contains this and other pricing. Note that ASUS makes the Fast SCSI-II card, the SC200, but they don't make a wide version. You're going to want the burst SRAM board. It's performance is signficantly better than the asynch. board. These are the kick-butt Micron burst SRAMS on the ASUS. Also, Intel and Micronics will have a board out with this, too. I cannot tell you anything about the Intel board, but Gateway is selling it in a bundled configuration only with their P5-75 model in a cacheless system with EDO DRAM. Later, -Clint -- /----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ | Clint Olsen | iDL Design Engineer | | olsenc@ichips.intel.com | Test Chip Integration | | ph:(503) 696-4032, m/s:JF1-81, fx:(503) 696-9359 | Intel Corporation | | note: phone prefixes to change to 264 | Hillsboro, OR | /----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 2 22:15:42 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id WAA03092 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:15:42 -0800 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03086 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:15:37 -0800 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA22766; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:18:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:18:16 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199503030618.XAA22766@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: "Clint Olsen" "ASUS motherboard info" (Mar 2, 10:01pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: "Clint Olsen" , hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ASUS motherboard info Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Cool motherboard specs.. ] > On Board PCI EIDE; 2 x PCI Bus Master EIDE ports > (up to 4 IDE devices) Support: So this is basically a dual-ported EIDE controller? > Award Pentium PCI BIOS and NCR PCI SCSI BIOS I see that we have the NCR SCSI BIOS, but there is no mention of NCR SCSI support. Does this mean that if you drop one of the cheap NCR boards in it works better than a standard PCI board, or am I missing something here? Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 2 23:00:13 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id XAA03461 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:00:13 -0800 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA03455 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:00:07 -0800 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA16219; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:57:36 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199503030657.WAA16219@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: ASUS motherboard info To: nate@trout.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:57:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: olsenc@ichips.intel.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199503030618.XAA22766@trout.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Mar 2, 95 11:18:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1486 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > [ Cool motherboard specs.. ] > > On Board PCI EIDE; 2 x PCI Bus Master EIDE ports > > (up to 4 IDE devices) Support: > > So this is basically a dual-ported EIDE controller? Yes, many of the newer motherboards are using a chip by CMD known as the CMD PCI0640B, this chip look like 2 IDE controller, one at the standard I/O address of 0x1F0 and one at 0x170. This particular chip is ATAPI compliant, and does at least Mode 3 EIDE. > > > Award Pentium PCI BIOS and NCR PCI SCSI BIOS > > I see that we have the NCR SCSI BIOS, but there is no mention of NCR > SCSI support. Does this mean that if you drop one of the cheap NCR > boards in it works better than a standard PCI board, or am I missing > something here? Almost all Pentium motherboards, with the Award bios atleast, are shipping with the NCR PCI SCSI BIOS built into the system bios. This means you can use the lower cost (ie ~$75.00) NCR 810/825 controllers that do not have any BIOS on them. If you do not have the NCR PCI SCSI BIOS in the SYSTEM bios you have to use an NCR card that has a BIOS chip on it (ie more $$$) or you have to boot from IDE and load run time NCR drivers from config.sys. My recommendation is don't buy a PCI motherboard without the NCR BIOS built into the motherboard, even most of the PCI/486 boards have it now too.. > Nate -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD