From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 20 05:12:28 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA25660 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 05:12:28 -0800 Received: from vm.gmd.de (vm.gmd.de [192.88.97.13]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA25653 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 05:12:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199503201312.FAA25653@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: from VM.GMD.DE by vm.gmd.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0961; Mon, 20 Mar 95 14:02:59 +0100 Received: from VMPROFS.ESOC.ESA.DE (NJE origin MAILER@ESOC) by VM.GMD.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6239; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 14:02:48 +0100 Received: from VMPROFS.ESOC.ESA.DE (NJE origin VCAPUANO@ESOC) by VMPROFS.ESOC.ESA.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2219; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 14:05:21 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 95 14:02:50 EWT From: Vincenzo Capuano Organization: ESA - European Space Agency Subject: Re: xntpd: testdcf don't work. Help!!!!! To: freebsd-hardware@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a 95% working version of "dcfd" for the Boeder DCF77 receiver. It receives the correct time and date, but it doesn't update correctly the system. When I fix it I will send the patches to be added to the tree. Vincenzo From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 20 06:14:46 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA26475 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 06:14:46 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA26392 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 06:10:27 -0800 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.enet (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA23399; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 14:46:31 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 14:46:31 +0100 From: Julian Howard Stacey Message-Id: <199503161346.OAA23399@vector.enet> To: 100523.2153@compuserve.com Subject: Re: PANASONIC CD-ROM support Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In my earlier mail to 100523.2153@compuserve.com when I wrote: > also make a bindist directory on your dos fdisk partition, > & read the files across from cd to hard disk. I forgot to add the important phrase: as you can then boot FreeBSD, & use the bindist files off the dos partition, by mounting the dos partition for reading (indeed even for writing) from a running FreeBSD. Julian S jhs@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 21 15:05:57 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA09494 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 15:05:57 -0800 Received: from hermes.intel.com (hermes.intel.com [143.183.152.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA09421; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 15:04:26 -0800 From: olsenc@ichips.intel.com Received: from [134.134.50.200] by hermes.intel.com (5.65/10.0i); Tue, 21 Mar 95 15:03:49 -0800 Received: from dtt030 by ichips.intel.com (5.64+/10.0i); Tue, 21 Mar 95 15:03:45 -0800 Received: by dtt030.intel.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/10.0i); Tue, 21 Mar 1995 15:03:43 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 15:03:43 -0800 Message-Id: <9503212303.AA20934@dtt030.intel.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: NCR 53c810 driver support scsi-reconnect/disconnect? Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello: I just saw a post stating that the Linux driver for the NCR PCI host adapters will hang the system when you do a SCSI operation (say mt rewind) because it blocks the bus. Is this also the case for the FreeBSD driver? I'm wondering because perhaps the author for the Linux and FreeBSD driver may be the same. Thanks, -Clint From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 22 00:03:41 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA26379 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 00:03:41 -0800 Received: from coyote.rain.org (dcasba@coyote.rain.org [198.68.144.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA26373 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 00:03:40 -0800 Received: by coyote.rain.org(8.6.10/RAIN-1.0) with id XAA22345 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.Org on Tue, 21 Mar 1995 23:59:04 -0800 From: Tom Gray - DCA Message-Id: <199503220759.XAA22345@coyote.rain.org> Subject: Pentium motherboards To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 23:59:03 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 190 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to splurge on an upgrade to a Pentium motherboard for my FreeBSD system. What would anyone recommend? What should I steer clear of? TIA, John John Poplett dcasba@pacrain.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 22 00:21:41 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA26720 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 00:21:41 -0800 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA26712 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 00:21:38 -0800 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id AAA08038; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 00:21:21 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199503220821.AAA08038@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards To: dcasba@rain.org (Tom Gray - DCA) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 00:21:20 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199503220759.XAA22345@coyote.rain.org> from "Tom Gray - DCA" at Mar 21, 95 11:59:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2562 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I would like to splurge on an upgrade to a Pentium motherboard for > my FreeBSD system. What would anyone recommend? What should I steer > clear of? I can sell you the hottest thing on the market right now, an ASUS PCI/I-P54TP4, you can't get the Burst SRAM version any place, but I can get these with standard async cache (that is what everything else is using). You *cannot* upgrade to Burst or Pipelined Burst SRAM, the boards with those on them have these chips soldered on. Micron can not currently deliever the chips in high enough volume and ASUS is haveing a very tough time getting any of them at all. Last word was these version of the motherboard would not be avaliable for 30 to 60 days. [A few people where actually lucky enough to get one of the few of these made, I was not one of them :-(]. This chip set is faster than the Intel Neptune chip set. I can get the full ASUS line if you want something fancier (dual P54 EISA or ISA, etc). $299.00 with 256k async cache, includes shipping via ups COD ground to anyplace in the US. P54C-90 CPU to go with it for $605.00. Ball Bearing CPU fan (5 year warranty) for $20.00. You can read all about ASUS's products from: - WWW: http://www.asus.com.tw/ - Gopher: gopher.asus.com.tw - FTP: ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS ASUS PCI/I-P54TP4 Mainboard Specifications: - Processor (Intel Socket5 ZIF Socket for CPU) . Intel Pentium Processor 75/90/100 MHz (P54C/CT) - Coprocessor . Internal Coprocessor of Pentium Processor - Chipset . Intel Triton Chipset - Architecture . 32-bit PCI Buss and 16-bit ISA Bus compatible - Cache Memory . 256KB/512KB for option. . Support Burst Mode SRAM, Pipelined Burst SRAM or Asynchronous SRAM - System Memory . Four 72-pin SIMM Sockets Support 8MB to 128MB . Use 4/8/16/32MB 72-pin DRAM Module with 70ns Fast Page Mode or EDO DRAM - On Board Super I/O . 1 Floppy Port (2.88MB) . 2 Serial Ports (16550 Fast UART Compatible) . 1 Parallel Port (ECP, EPP Port) - On Board PCI IDE . 2 x PCI Bus Master IDE ports (up to 4 IDE devices) . Support: . PIO Mode 3 & 4: 17 MB/Sec. (Max) . DMA Mode 2: 22 MB/Sec. (Max) - Expansion Slots . 3 32-bit PCI slots . 1 PCI/ISA shared slot . 3 16-bit ISA slots - BIOS . Award Pentium PCI BIOS and NCR PCI SCSI BIOS . 1M-bit Flash EPROM - Board Size . Baby AT Size, 33.3cm x 22.1cm (13.1" x 8.7") -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 22 08:25:12 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA08363 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 08:25:12 -0800 Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA08351; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 08:25:10 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: dcasba@rain.org (Tom Gray - DCA), freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 22 Mar 95 00:21:20 PST." <199503220821.AAA08038@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 08:25:10 -0800 Message-ID: <8349.795889510@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you get these in 120Mhz configuration too? Jordan From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 22 09:12:48 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA09769 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:12:48 -0800 Received: from devnull.mpd.tandem.com (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA09763 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:12:44 -0800 Received: from olympus by devnull.mpd.tandem.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA00158; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:12:15 -0600 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA21824; Wed, 22 Mar 95 11:10:42 CST From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9503221710.AA21824@olympus> Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:10:41 -0600 (CST) Cc: dcasba@rain.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199503220821.AAA08038@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Mar 22, 95 00:21:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1634 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > I would like to splurge on an upgrade to a Pentium motherboard for > > my FreeBSD system. What would anyone recommend? What should I steer > > clear of? > > I can sell you the hottest thing on the market right now, an ASUS > PCI/I-P54TP4, you can't get the Burst SRAM version any place, but I can > get these with standard async cache (that is what everything else > is using). You *cannot* upgrade to Burst or Pipelined Burst SRAM, > the boards with those on them have these chips soldered on. > > Micron can not currently deliever the chips in high enough volume and > ASUS is haveing a very tough time getting any of them at all. Last > word was these version of the motherboard would not be avaliable for > 30 to 60 days. [A few people where actually lucky enough to get > one of the few of these made, I was not one of them :-(]. > > This chip set is faster than the Intel Neptune chip set. I can get > the full ASUS line if you want something fancier (dual P54 EISA or ISA, > etc). > > $299.00 with 256k async cache, includes shipping via ups COD ground to > anyplace in the US. > > P54C-90 CPU to go with it for $605.00. > > Ball Bearing CPU fan (5 year warranty) for $20.00. > > You can read all about ASUS's products from: > - WWW: http://www.asus.com.tw/ > - Gopher: gopher.asus.com.tw > - FTP: ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS > > What are prices on 486 ASUS motherboards? Boyd -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner faulkner@isd.tandem.com _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 22 11:35:14 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA12794 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:35:14 -0800 Received: from hermes.intel.com (hermes.intel.com [143.183.152.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA12788 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:35:13 -0800 Received: from [134.134.50.200] by hermes.intel.com (5.65/10.0i); Wed, 22 Mar 95 11:33:20 -0800 Received: from dtt030 by ichips.intel.com (5.64+/10.0i); Wed, 22 Mar 95 11:33:13 -0800 Received: by dtt030.intel.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/10.0i); Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:33:11 -0800 Message-Id: <9503221933.AA25646@dtt030.intel.com> Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:33:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Clint Olsen" Cc: dcasba@rain.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199503220821.AAA08038@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Mar 22, 95 00:21:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 202 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you're going to buy the ASUS board, buy the one with the pipelined burst SRAM. Asynch is NOT the way to go with this one!!!! It may be more expensive, but you'll be happy in the long run. -Clint From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 22 11:47:19 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA13065 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:47:19 -0800 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA13057; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:47:16 -0800 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA09874; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:47:04 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199503221947.LAA09874@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:47:03 -0800 (PST) Cc: dcasba@rain.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <8349.795889510@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 22, 95 08:25:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1284 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Can you get these in 120Mhz configuration too? Not sure, but from the spec sheet: ASUS PCI/I-P55TP4 Mainboard Specifications: - Processor (Intel Socket5 ZIF Socket for CPU) . Intel Pentium Processor 75/90/100 MHz (P54C/CT) ^^ The P54CT is the ``Turbo'' version of the P54C that is not yet avaliable. This *may* be the 120MHz part. The only other board that I know of that lists the P24CT as supported is the PCI/E-P54NP4 boards you have been using (it is not in the online copy, but it is in your MB book). The 120Mhz part, from my understanding, is run externaly at 60 Mhz, and internally at 120Mhz. If the motherboard has the 1/2 2/3 bus/core ratio jumper on it it is suppose to be able to run the 120MHz part. Some boards have this jumper some do not. I will check with ASUS on this board to find out if it will run the 120MHz part. As a side note for all you folks that bought 486 mother boards with the P24T socket on it, I have word from my supplier that the P24T is now shipping. I should have pricing in a day or two. > Jordan -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 22 12:19:54 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA13684 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:19:54 -0800 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA13676 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:19:51 -0800 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA10017; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:18:11 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199503222018.MAA10017@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards To: olsenc@ichips.intel.com (Clint Olsen) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:18:11 -0800 (PST) Cc: dcasba@rain.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9503221933.AA25646@dtt030.intel.com> from "Clint Olsen" at Mar 22, 95 11:33:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1127 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > If you're going to buy the ASUS board, buy the one with the > pipelined burst SRAM. Asynch is NOT the way to go with this > one!!!! It may be more expensive, but you'll be happy in the long > run. I would if I could, like I said in my other message you won't be able to find any Pipelined Burst SRAM boards, I've been trying for 3 weeks to get them. I have been in direct contact with ASUS on these, they are not even able to get the chip to make them. I currently have 3 orders for these boards from people on my Back Order list. There is a 23% performace boost in memory write bandwidth on this board compared to a Neptune chip set board, and that is with the standard ASYNC SRAM. If your looking at any P54C motherboard this is the one to get, it is better than all the Neptune based boards, it supports 512K of ASYNC cache, and a very competitive price. Can you touch a Neptune based board for $299 with out CPU or $891 with CPU, that has on board I/O? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 22 12:47:52 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA14330 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:47:52 -0800 Received: from hermes.intel.com (hermes.intel.com [143.183.152.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA14319 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:47:50 -0800 Received: from [134.134.50.200] by hermes.intel.com (5.65/10.0i); Wed, 22 Mar 95 12:45:29 -0800 Received: from dtt030 by ichips.intel.com (5.64+/10.0i); Wed, 22 Mar 95 12:45:20 -0800 Received: by dtt030.intel.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/10.0i); Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:45:18 -0800 Message-Id: <9503222045.AA35841@dtt030.intel.com> Subject: 120 MHz parts To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:45:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Clint Olsen" Cc: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com, dcasba@rain.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199503221947.LAA09874@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Mar 22, 95 11:47:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 651 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes, you could run a 120MHz part with the ASUS board. Actually, you can run ANY part which the Pentium supports an appropriate bus fraction, even if the board does not. You can just jumper the board to do the frequency you want, and you can force the CPU to choose a bus fraction by modifying your own socket. I know it's a pain, but people waste all kinds of time trying to fry their CPU by running it over the rated clock frequency anyway :) At boot, the CPU looks to see how it's jumpered (no, I don't know the pins offhand), and the PLL reacts accordingly. For example: It would be possible to run 133/66 or 180/60 as well as 120/60. -Clint From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 23 09:31:19 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA15703 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:31:19 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA15693 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:30:45 -0800 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA08255 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 22:05:53 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 22:05:53 +0100 From: Julian Howard Stacey Message-Id: <199503212105.WAA08255@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: 3-1-1-1 burst Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Re. > and the bility of Poul to go to a 3-1-1-1 burst. Sorry guys, what does this mean ? some convention I'm missing ? PS you may assume I at least once I knew hardware, (I designed my own NSC 32016 board etc), but I never did know PC archania too well :-) (though I suspect this is generic cache parlance here, not Intel PC specific ?) PS the original header line: To: phk@ref.tfs.com rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Cc: core@freebsd.org hackers@freebsd.org nate@sneezy.sri.com I have stripped to: To: hardware@freebsd.org Julian S From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 23 09:51:09 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA16258 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:51:09 -0800 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA16248 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:51:01 -0800 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id JAA01313; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:50:27 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199503231750.JAA01313@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: 3-1-1-1 burst To: jhs@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Howard Stacey) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:50:27 -0800 (PST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199503212105.WAA08255@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Howard Stacey" at Mar 21, 95 10:05:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1488 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Re. > > and the bility of Poul to go to a 3-1-1-1 burst. > > Sorry guys, what does this mean ? some convention I'm missing ? This is a kinda Intel thing, but I have seen it used other places when talking about burst mode bus transfers A burst mode transfer is one where you provide a starting address and/or data on the first cycle, then data on subsequent cycles. Often the timing is different for these cycles, in the above the first number is how many clock ticks it takes for the setup of the address and the first data transfer. The other three numbers are the cycles for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th data word. This is for a 4 word burst which is what i[45]86 chips use for there burst mode. Due to pipeline design and other factors this can be things like 4-3-2-2, or even as slow as 7-4-4-4. When working with designs that have N word burst this is often written differently. > PS you may assume I at least once I knew hardware, (I designed my own > NSC 32016 board etc), but I never did know PC archania too well :-) > (though I suspect this is generic cache parlance here, not Intel PC specific ?) > > PS the original header line: > To: phk@ref.tfs.com rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Cc: core@freebsd.org hackers@freebsd.org nate@sneezy.sri.com > I have stripped to: > To: hardware@freebsd.org > > Julian S > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 23 14:45:26 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA24366 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:45:26 -0800 Received: from postoffice3.mail.cornell.edu (POSTOFFICE3.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.56.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA24360; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:45:20 -0800 Received: from [128.84.254.37] (CS-ANNEX-1-07.CS.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.254.37]) by postoffice3.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA08715; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 17:44:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199503232244.RAA08715@postoffice3.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 17:51:53 +2327 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-platforms@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org From: ds41@cornell.edu (Daisuke Sasaki) X-Sender: ds41@postoffice3.mail.cornell.edu Subject: FreeBSD on Houdini ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.5-J10) Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sirs, I'm wondering if somebody out there have ever tried to run {Free | Net}BSD or other PC-UNIX on the latest DOS Compatible Power Mac 6100/66 called "Houdini" released around early this year ???? And how did it go ? Or is it possible to run *BSD on "Huudini" machine ? Thanks for any help in advance. -- daisuke