From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 3 15:11:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA26788 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:11:59 -0700 Received: from apollo.hq.nasa.gov (apollo.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.121.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA26773 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:11:51 -0700 Received: from wirehead.hq.nasa.gov (wirehead.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.121.88]) by apollo.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA16712; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 22:13:09 GMT Received: from localhost (cshenton@localhost) by wirehead.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA22836; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 22:13:09 GMT Message-Id: <199510032213.WAA22836@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: wirehead.hq.nasa.gov: cshenton owned process doing -bs X-Authentication-Warning: wirehead.hq.nasa.gov: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: Chris Shenton , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install -- SCSI geometry incorrect (was OK before!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:50:13 PDT." <199509291950.MAA24765@aslan.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 18:13:08 -0400 From: Chris Shenton Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:50:13 -0700, "Justin T. Gibbs" said: Justin> You should use the Adaptec translated geometry for the disc: Justin> (64 heads, 32 sectors/track, #MB on the drive cylinders) Justin> standard, (255,63, #MB/7) if you have extended translation Justin> enabled. The best way to make this happen is to make a small Justin> dos partition on the disk that you can either leave or blow Justin> away during the FreeBSD install. FreeBSD will pull the proper Justin> geometry out of the DOS partion so you don't have to enter it Justin> manually. Uh, how do I put a MS-DOG partition on if I'm only running FreeBSD? It's a Seagate ST31200N 1006MB, by the way, if anyone's got numbers handy. PS: how does it `know' my geometry's bad? and why doesn't it tell me the right geom if it's so smart? :-( From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 3 15:23:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA27223 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:23:28 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA27217 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:23:22 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA10188; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:22:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199510032222.PAA10188@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Chris Shenton cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install -- SCSI geometry incorrect (was OK before!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Oct 1995 18:13:08 EDT." <199510032213.WAA22836@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 15:22:50 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:50:13 -0700, "Justin T. Gibbs" org> said: > >Justin> You should use the Adaptec translated geometry for the disc: >Justin> (64 heads, 32 sectors/track, #MB on the drive cylinders) >Justin> standard, (255,63, #MB/7) if you have extended translation >Justin> enabled. The best way to make this happen is to make a small >Justin> dos partition on the disk that you can either leave or blow >Justin> away during the FreeBSD install. FreeBSD will pull the proper >Justin> geometry out of the DOS partion so you don't have to enter it >Justin> manually. > >Uh, how do I put a MS-DOG partition on if I'm only running FreeBSD? Then you have to enter the numbers I gave you above manually. >It's a Seagate ST31200N 1006MB, by the way, if anyone's got numbers >handy. You already have the numbers handy. Your geometry is either 64/32/1006 or 255/63/143 depending on whether you have extended translation turned on in SCSI-Select or not. >PS: how does it `know' my geometry's bad? and why doesn't it tell me > the right geom if it's so smart? :-( Its not smart enough to determine the correct geometry, but its easy to multiply the geometry out and see if it goes beyond the end of the disk. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 5 14:00:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA21698 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:00:32 -0700 Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA21691 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:00:16 -0700 Received: from tahoma.cwu.edu (skynyrd@tahoma.cwu.edu [198.104.67.25]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA10924 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:59:46 -0700 Received: (from skynyrd@localhost) by tahoma.cwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA22118; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:59:45 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ASUS P55TP4XE and DC21140 PCI ETHERNET Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a problem with the DC21140 10/100 PCI ethernet adapter whereby the driver appears to read but misinterpret the ROM on the card: /kernel: de0 rev 17 int a irq 10 on pci0:9 /kernel: reg20: virtual=0xf4786000 physical=0xfbfff000 size=0x80 /kernel: de0: can't read ENET ROM (why=-4) (00000000000000000000000000000000000001010000f80007a1004100444535 /kernel: de0: DC21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.1 Ethernet address unknown The string returned in the message does include the adapter's ethernet address, which makes me suspect that the problem may just have to do with adjusting an offset somewhere so that this can be interpreted correctly. Any ideas? It seems like I'm real close to having this working... -Chris SOFTWARE: 2.0.5-950622-SNAP, problem also appears with the 2.1.0-950928-SNAP boot floppy. HARDWARE: ASUS P55TP4XE, P100, 32mb RAM PCI BUS 1 SC200 NCR SCSI - IRQ 11 1 DC21140 - IRQ 10 ISA 1 Generic VGA - IRQ 1 NOTES: The DC21140 can run and pass the extensive diagnostic suite included on the DOS install diskette - this on the same hardware. Removing the SC200 from the PCI bus and booting the machine from floppy does not mitigate the problem. Enabling all shadow memory ranges in the BIOS doesn't help. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 5 16:12:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA26640 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:12:20 -0700 Received: from elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (elxr-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA26633 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:12:16 -0700 Received: from localhost.jpl.nasa.gov (localhost.jpl.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA03660 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:13:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199510052313.QAA03660@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: New PCI cards and FreeBSD Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 16:13:12 -0700 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm using FreeBSD 2.0.5 and attempting to use an Adaptec 3940 and an Intel EtherExpress card on the PCI bus. I guess "kernel -c" doesn't config cards on the PCI bus, eh? Anyway, it's hard to know what support there is for these cards. Searching through the "hackers" and "hardware" archives shows me nothing as to how to determine if there is support for your particular hardware. Anyone have any suggestions for using either of these two cards in a FreeBSD system? ------ Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh Will is the strong blind man who carries on his shoulders the lame man who can see. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 5 16:27:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA27254 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:27:34 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA27248 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:27:32 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA18030; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:26:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199510052326.QAA18030@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Dave Hayes cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Oct 1995 16:13:12 PDT." <199510052313.QAA03660@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 16:26:57 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I'm using FreeBSD 2.0.5 and attempting to use an Adaptec 3940 >and an Intel EtherExpress card on the PCI bus. > >I guess "kernel -c" doesn't config cards on the PCI bus, eh? > >Anyway, it's hard to know what support there is for these cards. >Searching through the "hackers" and "hardware" archives shows >me nothing as to how to determine if there is support for your >particular hardware. > >Anyone have any suggestions for using either of these two >cards in a FreeBSD system? The 3940 is supported in the latest 2.1 snapshot. You can ftp it from ftp.cdrom.com/pub/FreeBSD. >------ >Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA >dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh > > Will is the strong blind man who carries on his shoulders the lame man who > can see. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 5 16:47:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA28103 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:47:25 -0700 Received: from covina.lightside.com (covina.lightside.com [198.81.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA28089 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:47:21 -0700 Received: by covina.lightside.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0t0zzb-0009YHC; Thu, 5 Oct 95 16:46 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:46:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Hamby To: Dave Hayes cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199510052313.QAA03660@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Dave Hayes wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD 2.0.5 and attempting to use an Adaptec 3940 > and an Intel EtherExpress card on the PCI bus. > > I guess "kernel -c" doesn't config cards on the PCI bus, eh? > > Anyway, it's hard to know what support there is for these cards. > Searching through the "hackers" and "hardware" archives shows > me nothing as to how to determine if there is support for your > particular hardware. > > Anyone have any suggestions for using either of these two > cards in a FreeBSD system? > ------ > Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA > dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh Hey, another JPL'er using FreeBSD! Welcome aboard! As it turns out, I've just finished writing the kernel configuration chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook, which should be available on http://www.freebsd.org/ in a few days after I make some minor corrections. In the meantime, you can retrieve a beta version from my school home page at: http://www.sci.csupomona.edu/~jehamby/handbook/handbook.html Chapter 5.3 discusses the configuration file, including supported SCSI and Network devices. A few of the devices are NOT mentioned elsewhere, I had to poke around in the source code to see what card, for example, "eg0" corresponded to (people, DOCUMENT your changes in the LINT kernel, at least :-). Anyway: The EtherExpress 16 is supported with a line like: device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr This may or may not be compatible with your PCI card. Similarly, the the highest model of Adaptec I see mentioned is the 274x/284x/294x series, if your card is backwards compatible, then this line might work: controller ahc0 You didn't mention if these devices were recognized by the GENERIC kernel. Are they? By the way, the only PCI-specific drivers I see, are the NCR 53C810/53C825 SCSI controller (which I've got in a Micron 100MHz Pentium here, works great!) and the DEC DC21040 PCI Ethernet adapter. All other cards are supported through the PCI->ISA bridge, apparently. Anyway, if you have any more questions, you can reach me at extension 4-5068 or mail hamby@aris.jpl.nasa.gov ---Jake From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 5 17:15:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA29175 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:15:24 -0700 Received: from elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (elxr-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA29168 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:15:22 -0700 Received: from localhost.jpl.nasa.gov (localhost.jpl.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA04750; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:16:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199510060016.RAA04750@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> To: Jake Hamby Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 17:16:16 -0700 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jake Hamby writes: >Hey, another JPL'er using FreeBSD! Welcome aboard! I'd love to get most of JPL using this stuff. It's great, and secure (compared to SunOS) too. >The EtherExpress 16 is supported with a line like: > >device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector >ixintr But that's for ISA only. PCI stuff is all wipe your butt for you auto configured, which is good if it works. >You didn't mention if these devices were recognized by the GENERIC >kernel. Are they? I thought that was the only kernel on the CDROM? >By the way, the only PCI-specific drivers I see, are >the NCR 53C810/53C825 SCSI controller (which I've got in a Micron 100MHz >Pentium here, works great!) and the DEC DC21040 PCI Ethernet adapter. >All other cards are supported through the PCI->ISA bridge, apparently. Yes, how do you use this? ------ Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh Nasrudin was standing outside the window of a beautiful girl, playing the guitar and serenading her. Someone asked: "Why do you not ask her to marry you?" Nasrudin replied: "I have thought of that; but, if she agreed, what would I do with my evenings?" From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 5 17:32:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA29700 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:32:56 -0700 Received: from covina.lightside.com (covina.lightside.com [198.81.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA29688 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:32:53 -0700 Received: by covina.lightside.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0t10iW-0009YEC; Thu, 5 Oct 95 17:32 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:32:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Hamby To: Dave Hayes cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199510060016.RAA04750@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Dave Hayes wrote: > Jake Hamby writes: > >Hey, another JPL'er using FreeBSD! Welcome aboard! > > I'd love to get most of JPL using this stuff. It's great, and secure > (compared to SunOS) too. Heck yeah! Sun hasn't done anything with SunOS since 1990, and it shows. Unless you can "migrate" to Solaris (which is not that bad, assuming you have a SPARC 20, 48MB of RAM, and are willing to learn its quirks), then NetBSD/sparc remains the best hope. Similarly, FreeBSD is the best hope for PC's as desktop Unix boxes, surpassing Linux in multiuser and network performance. > >The EtherExpress 16 is supported with a line like: > > > >device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector > >ixintr > > But that's for ISA only. PCI stuff is all wipe your butt for you auto > configured, which is good if it works. Yep, but there are precious few PCI-native devices in FreeBSD (or Linux for that matter). > >You didn't mention if these devices were recognized by the GENERIC > >kernel. Are they? > > I thought that was the only kernel on the CDROM? It is. I'm sorry, I thought you were trying to build a custom kernel (that's what my chapter was about, and I'm afraid it's a little on my brain). You can change port and IRQ from "boot -c" but if the device isn't recognized at all, there's not much you can do. Try the "probe" command with "ix0" and "ahc0" and see if it picks them up as ISA-emulation devices. > >By the way, the only PCI-specific drivers I see, are > >the NCR 53C810/53C825 SCSI controller (which I've got in a Micron 100MHz > >Pentium here, works great!) and the DEC DC21040 PCI Ethernet adapter. > >All other cards are supported through the PCI->ISA bridge, > apparently. > > Yes, how do you use this? The PCI->ISA bridge allows devices on the PCI bus to look like ISA devices. For example, an old DOS program doesn't need to know you have a PCI video card, it accesses it just like any other. Similarly, most PCI cards I've seen, will act like a similar ISA card, except with a 32-bit datapath. That's why I was hoping your cards would be recognized by the kernel as ISA cards. > Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA > dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh > > Nasrudin was standing outside the window of a beautiful girl, playing the > guitar and serenading her. Someone asked: "Why do you not ask her to marry > you?" Nasrudin replied: "I have thought of that; but, if she agreed, what > would I do with my evenings?" > > From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 5 17:54:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA00581 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:54:18 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA00575 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:54:15 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA18216; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:53:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199510060053.RAA18216@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Jake Hamby cc: Dave Hayes , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Oct 1995 17:32:45 PDT." Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 17:53:49 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Dave Hayes wrote: > >It is. I'm sorry, I thought you were trying to build a custom kernel >(that's what my chapter was about, and I'm afraid it's a little on my >brain). You can change port and IRQ from "boot -c" but if the device >isn't recognized at all, there's not much you can do. Try the "probe" >command with "ix0" and "ahc0" and see if it picks them up as >ISA-emulation devices. The ahc driver is a full blown pci driver. There is no "isa emulation" about it. It does support eisa/vl versions of the card as well, but handles them through probe and attach routines specific to those buses. >The PCI->ISA bridge allows devices on the PCI bus to look like ISA >devices. For example, an old DOS program doesn't need to know you have a >PCI video card, it accesses it just like any other. Similarly, most PCI >cards I've seen, will act like a similar ISA card, except with a 32-bit >datapath. That's why I was hoping your cards would be recognized by the >kernel as ISA cards. The PCI->ISA bride is used to attach an ISA bus onto the PCI bus. This is how most ISA slots are provided on today's motherboards. It has nothing to do with PCI devices that have an ISA compatibility mode. PCI video cards, for example, show up just like any other kind of video card because their VGA registers are mapped by default to the standard VGA I/O location. >> Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA >> dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 6 13:53:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA14344 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:53:08 -0700 Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA14337 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:53:02 -0700 Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA04771; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:53:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:53:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: PCI DE21040 based cards. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know who makes cards based on this chipset (besides DEC)? I am looking to get a few of them and don't want to pay what I paid for my DEC cards. Thanks. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 6 14:11:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA15776 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:11:12 -0700 Received: from elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (elxr-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA15765 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:11:09 -0700 Received: from localhost.jpl.nasa.gov (localhost.jpl.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA02050; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:12:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199510062112.OAA02050@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 14:12:06 -0700 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Justin T. Gibbs" writes: >The PCI->ISA bride is used to attach an ISA bus onto the PCI bus. This >is how most ISA slots are provided on today's motherboards. It has >nothing to do with PCI devices that have an ISA compatibility mode. Are there any plans to do this, or is this just not a good idea? ------ Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh If, from time to time, you give up expectation...then you will be able to perceive what it is that you are getting. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 6 14:14:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA16099 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:14:50 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA16094 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:14:47 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA21204; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:14:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199510062114.OAA21204@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Dave Hayes cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Oct 1995 14:12:06 PDT." <199510062112.OAA02050@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 14:14:10 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >"Justin T. Gibbs" writes: >>The PCI->ISA bride is used to attach an ISA bus onto the PCI bus. This >>is how most ISA slots are provided on today's motherboards. It has >>nothing to do with PCI devices that have an ISA compatibility mode. > >Are there any plans to do this, or is this just not a good idea? Do what? :) >------ >Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA >dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh > >If, from time to time, you give up expectation...then you will be able to >perceive what it is that you are getting. > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 6 14:38:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA17743 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:38:28 -0700 Received: from elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (elxr-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA17738 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:38:21 -0700 Received: from localhost.jpl.nasa.gov (localhost.jpl.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA02838; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:39:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199510062139.OAA02838@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 14:39:17 -0700 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Justin T. Gibbs" writes: >>"Justin T. Gibbs" writes: >>>The PCI->ISA bride is used to attach an ISA bus onto the PCI bus. This >>>is how most ISA slots are provided on today's motherboards. It has >>>nothing to do with PCI devices that have an ISA compatibility mode. >>Are there any plans to do this, or is this just not a good idea? >Do what? :) You know. 8) Provide support for PCI devices in ISA compatibility mode? I noticed only one PCI network card supported in 2.0.5, and until I get my home machine (and T1), I won't be able to SUP with you guys. So I have to wait for your releases to get new software. ------ Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh Being politically correct means always having to say you're sorry. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 6 14:42:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA18092 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:42:04 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA18084 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:42:01 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA21426; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:41:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199510062141.OAA21426@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Dave Hayes cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New PCI cards and FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Oct 1995 14:39:17 PDT." <199510062139.OAA02838@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 14:41:35 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >You know. 8) Provide support for PCI devices in ISA compatibility >mode? I noticed only one PCI network card supported in 2.0.5, and >until I get my home machine (and T1), I won't be able to SUP with >you guys. So I have to wait for your releases to get new software. Most cards do *not* have an "isa compatibility" mode. The exceptions I know of are VGA cards, and the buslogic PCI SCSI controllers. The rest require you to deal with them as PCI devices and/or are so different from their ISA precursors that its imposible to support them this way. >------ >Dave Hayes -- Institutional NETworks - Section 394 -- JPL/NASA - Pasadena CA >dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ...usc!elroy!dxh > > Being politically correct means always having to say you're sorry. > > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 6 23:39:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA13048 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 23:39:33 -0700 Received: from zonk.geko.com.au (root@zonk.geko.com.au [203.2.239.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA13009 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 23:38:15 -0700 Received: from zappa.arksoft.com.au (dialup11.geko.com.au [203.2.239.244]) by zonk.geko.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA13260; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:34:16 +1000 Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:34:16 +1000 Message-Id: <199510070634.QAA13260@zonk.geko.com.au> X-Sender: arksoft@203.2.239.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Andrew Khoo - ArkSoft Systems Subject: Re: PCI DE21040 based cards. Cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 15:53 06/10/95 -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: >Does anyone know who makes cards based on this chipset (besides DEC)? >I am looking to get a few of them and don't want to pay what I paid for >my DEC cards. The SMC EtherPower-PCI adaptors use the DE21040 chipset. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 7 02:48:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA22834 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 02:48:15 -0700 Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA22827 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 02:48:10 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA08240; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 02:48:01 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199510070948.CAA08240@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: PCI DE21040 based cards. To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 02:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at Oct 6, 95 03:53:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 646 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Does anyone know who makes cards based on this chipset (besides DEC)? > I am looking to get a few of them and don't want to pay what I paid for > my DEC cards. I stock these: XX. CMP CPXPCI/32C Compex ENET32-PCI PCI 32bit ethernet combo $ 102.00 And depending on your meaning of ``few'' volume pricing starts at 5 units. I can also get DEC DC2104x based cards from SMC, Asante' and Infotec. I deal direct with Asante', Infotec and Compex, SMC I get from distribution. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 7 16:31:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA01380 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:31:36 -0700 Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [134.24.4.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA01371 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:31:32 -0700 Received: from puffin.pelican.com by pelican.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0t1iiG-000K2mC; Sat, 7 Oct 95 16:31 WET DST Received: by puffin.pelican.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0t1iiG-0000ReC; Sat, 7 Oct 95 16:31 PDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 Oct 95 16:31 PDT From: pete@puffin.pelican.com (Pete Carah) To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCI DE21040 based cards. Newsgroups: pelican.fbsd-hd In-Reply-To: <199510070948.CAA08240@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article <199510070948.CAA08240@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> you write: >> Does anyone know who makes cards based on this chipset (besides DEC)? >> I am looking to get a few of them and don't want to pay what I paid for >> my DEC cards. >I stock these: >XX. CMP CPXPCI/32C Compex ENET32-PCI PCI 32bit ethernet combo $ 102.00 >And depending on your meaning of ``few'' volume pricing starts at 5 units. >I can also get DEC DC2104x based cards from SMC, Asante' and Infotec. I >deal direct with Asante', Infotec and Compex, SMC I get from distribution. And be careful for a while - current shipments from SMC are all 21041 and our driver doesn't probe them (unless DG has released the new driver). (but the Win95 driver does so I just traded for his older card so far :-) -- Pete From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 7 18:07:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA07150 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 18:07:22 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07142 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 18:07:18 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA05993; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:04:01 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510080134.LAA05993@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: PCI DE21040 based cards. To: arksoft@geko.com.au (Andrew Khoo - ArkSoft Systems) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:04:00 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, winter@jurai.net In-Reply-To: <199510070634.QAA13260@zonk.geko.com.au> from "Andrew Khoo - ArkSoft Systems" at Oct 7, 95 04:34:16 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 804 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Andrew Khoo - ArkSoft Systems stands accused of saying: > > At 15:53 06/10/95 -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > > >Does anyone know who makes cards based on this chipset (besides DEC)? > >I am looking to get a few of them and don't want to pay what I paid for > >my DEC cards. > > The SMC EtherPower-PCI adaptors use the DE21040 chipset. The Compex PCI cards use this chipset also (and they're cheap 8) Rod sells them. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[