From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 26 07:24:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA13097 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 07:24:34 -0800 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA13091 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 07:24:25 -0800 Received: from uucp5.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzrnp29462; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:24:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Received: from uanet.UUCP by uucp5.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:24:23 -0500 Received: by crocodil.monolit.kiev.ua; Sun, 26 Nov 95 17:19:48 +0200 Received: (from dk@localhost) by dog.farm.org (8.6.11/dk#3) id RAA00516; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 17:16:55 +0200 From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Subject: Re: About Conner and IBM SCSI HDDs (was: Re: your mail To: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua (Andrew V. Stesin) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 15:16:54 +0000 () Cc: dk+@ua.net, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511260340.FAA07309@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> from "Andrew V. Stesin" at Nov 26, 95 05:40:50 am Reply-To: dk+@ua.net X-Class: Fast X-OS-Of-Choice: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE X-NIC-Handle: DK379 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22 dk9] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Andrew V. Stesin: > # top (where the label is): > # > # BW993FC > # CFP1060S > # SSP-01 > # 9WA2.66R1 <- is that firmware version (2.66R1?) > > Gmm. It seems to me that -- no, this means something else, > like a flash ROM chip own revision or whatever. (?) > The firmware version your'e looking for is shown at the > SCSI probe step, like in this line of SCSI probe output > I'm getting from Conners here: > > [...] > (ncr0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 203C" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > ^^^^^^ > here it is. It was something > like '2031' before the firmware upgrade. I see. quoting dmesg: (ncr0:3:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 245F" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:3:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:3:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. So, I got 245F. fine. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 26 08:01:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA15456 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 08:01:28 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA15431 ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 08:01:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA12557; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 07:57:25 -0800 To: "Andrew V. Stesin" cc: hardware@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Gold" writable CDs and FreeBSD -- opinions, comments? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 26 Nov 1995 15:15:13 +0200." <199511261315.PAA20864@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 07:57:25 -0800 Message-ID: <12554.817401445@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > But what steps are required to get it working with FreeBSD? I think there are I think we're going to be exploring this issue very shortly as I myself have also gotten ahold of a CD-R drive and would very much like to use it for producing FreeBSD release CDs from home (it would make a LOT more testing possible since I don't have test machines to use at Walnut Creek). Basically, at the present time it looks like I need to buy Julian Elischer a pizza. Perhaps you could contribute by sending him a bottle of Vodka for afterwards? :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 26 12:46:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA29718 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 12:46:25 -0800 Received: from agathe.osinet.fr (osinet.dialup.iway.fr [194.98.4.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA29710 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 12:46:21 -0800 Received: (from ericf@localhost) by agathe.osinet.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA04472; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 22:55:21 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 22:55:21 +0100 (MET) From: Eric Feillant To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SUN SPARC 1 & NETBSD /FREBSD INSTALL PROCEDURE ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I took the binarie codes of netbsd / sparc for my sparc 1. Does anybody installed it ? and How ? Is there any procedure friendly like Freebsd fo Sparc Systems ? Thanx for help... Eric. ~ Eric Feillant O.S.I ericf@osinet.fr 13 rue Francois Muret de Pagnac Tel: (33)98101725 Le Brittany - Bat B Fax: (33)98101726 29000 QUIMPER Operator: 399172 FRANCE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 26 13:23:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA02368 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:23:50 -0800 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA02348 ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:23:19 -0800 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA19147; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:22:14 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199511262122.NAA19147@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: "Gold" writable CDs and FreeBSD -- opinions, comments? To: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua (Andrew V. Stesin) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:22:14 -0800 (PST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511261315.PAA20864@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> from "Andrew V. Stesin" at Nov 26, 95 03:15:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 100 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi, I'm planning onlooking as a CDR device driver with jordan over the next week or so... julian From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 26 14:24:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA06931 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 14:24:48 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA06923 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 14:24:43 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id XAA29968 ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:24:39 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id XAA06184 ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:24:38 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.1/keltia-uucp-2.6) id XAA12498; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:24:09 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199511262224.XAA12498@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: SUN SPARC 1 & NETBSD /FREBSD INSTALL PROCEDURE ? To: ericf@osinet.fr (Eric Feillant) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:24:09 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Eric Feillant" at Nov 26, 95 10:55:21 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1378 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Eric Feillant said: > I took the binarie codes of netbsd / sparc for my sparc 1. > Does anybody installed it ? > and How ? I think you ought to ask this kind of question on the netbsd lists as they're better suited to answer them... > Is there any procedure friendly like Freebsd fo Sparc Systems ? To my knowledge, NetBSD has no installation like FreeBSD provide. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #7: Mon Nov 6 21:08:06 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 27 08:12:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA09443 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:12:44 -0800 Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09300 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:11:46 -0800 Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id SAA18705 for hardware@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:15:21 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id RAA05074 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:01:29 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id RAA04958; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:01:26 +0200 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199511271501.RAA04958@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: "Gold" writable CDs and FreeBSD -- opinions, comments? To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:01:25 +0200 (EET) Cc: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua, hardware@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <12554.817401445@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 26, 95 07:57:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1242 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Jordan, # > But what steps are required to get it working with FreeBSD? I think there are # # I think we're going to be exploring this issue very shortly as I myself # have also gotten ahold of a CD-R drive and would very much like to use # it for producing FreeBSD release CDs from home (it would make a LOT more # testing possible since I don't have test machines to use at Walnut Creek). Yes, that's what I've tell: you get _many_ new and useful functionality of goldCD, test releases among them... # Basically, at the present time it looks like I need to buy Julian # Elischer a pizza. Perhaps you could contribute by sending him a bottle # of Vodka for afterwards? :-) Neat idea. But as today the Ukrainian vodka industry is in crisis, too, I can propose the famous drink of Ukrainian kozaks -- Gorilka z Pertcem (pepper vodka), either of industrial or of my own home production (yes, I can produce nice and strong vodka myself, too). Dear Julian! Will three liters be enough at least for the first time? (You think I'm joking?! oh no...) (-; # # Jordan # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 An undocumented feature is a coding error. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 27 08:13:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA09530 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:13:29 -0800 Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09433 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:12:43 -0800 Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id SAA18800 for hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:16:04 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id RAA11009 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:23:01 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id RAA05549; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:22:51 +0200 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199511271522.RAA05549@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: "Gold" writable CDs and FreeBSD -- opinions, comments? To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:22:50 +0200 (EET) Cc: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua, hardware@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511262122.NAA19147@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Nov 26, 95 01:22:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 696 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dear Julian, I hope my message about a proposal of some fuel for you to overcome this long and hard way, reached you already. Please notify is this Ok and enough! :-) (And your address, please). # hi, # I'm planning onlooking as a CDR device driver with jordan # over the next week or so... Cool. Which model of a writeable-CD will you recommend? (The one I know is a Pinnacle writeable CD, though only external box of the device is labeled Pinnacle, and the device itself, hidden in the box, is from some other manufacturer). # # julian # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 An undocumented feature is a coding error. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 27 10:38:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA18888 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:38:44 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA18874 ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:38:40 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id SAA15995 ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:41:49 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id SAA09007 ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:41:48 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.1/keltia-uucp-2.6) id JAA22854; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:08:25 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199511270808.JAA22854@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: "Gold" writable CDs and FreeBSD -- opinions, comments? To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:08:25 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org (Hardware Mailing list), jkh@freebsd.org (Jordan Hubbard) In-Reply-To: <199511262122.NAA19147@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Nov 26, 95 01:22:14 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1378 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Julian Elischer said: > I'm planning onlooking as a CDR device driver with jordan > over the next week or so... I remember sending a while ago a device driver's source for a Ricoh CD-R recorder, made by a friend for NetBSD... Jordan do you still have the message ? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #7: Mon Nov 6 21:08:06 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Nov 28 12:38:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA03234 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:38:15 -0800 Received: from snoopy.mv.com (snoopy.mv.com [199.125.64.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA03229 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:38:11 -0800 Received: (from pw@localhost) by snoopy.mv.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00853; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:37:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:37:53 -0500 From: "Paul F. Werkowski" Message-Id: <199511282037.PAA00853@snoopy.mv.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Intel Endeavor Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk You guys are going to love this one.. >From the folks that brought you the infamous FDIV bug. We have a brandy new Pentium 120 Mhz system that our customer (USAF) bought (from Austin Direct) to demo our software. The motherboard, an Intel Endeavor I am told, has three ISA slots in the lower left and a CPU chip on the lower right positioned so that it is directly in line with the slots, such that a full length card in any slot will sit on top of the CPU. OK so far. Now there is this nifty little heat sink fan on top of the CPU to keep it from melting. The fan protrudes 0.25 inch above the ISA slots such that it is impossible to insert a full length card unless it is notched to clear the fan! Naturally the critial application card (a Spectrum Signal Processing quad TMS320C31 board) is not so notched. Dang! Is anyone aware of some PC AT spec that limits the bottom dimension of a full width card? Did the engineer who made the FPU get demoted to motherboard design? Who is the bozo in this case? Paul -------------- Paul Werkowski ANSI Common Lisp on Intel? pw@snoopy.mv.com http://www.mv.com/users/pw/lisp From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Nov 28 14:49:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA13280 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:49:07 -0800 Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (ix-sb1-08.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA13269 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:48:59 -0800 Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA24049; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:50:51 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:50:51 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: "Paul F. Werkowski" cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Intel Endeavor In-Reply-To: <199511282037.PAA00853@snoopy.mv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Paul F. Werkowski wrote: > You guys are going to love this one.. > >From the folks that brought you the infamous FDIV bug. >... > Is anyone aware of some PC AT spec that limits > the bottom dimension of a full width card? Did > the engineer who made the FPU get demoted to > motherboard design? Who is the bozo in this > case? Don't single out Intel for this fault. I know we'd LIKE to, but it's not really fair. I've seen this design fault in quite a number of non-Intel motherboards out there, too. Sigh. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Nov 28 16:22:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA20164 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:22:12 -0800 Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA20136 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:21:54 -0800 Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id OAA18168; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:21:30 -1000 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:21:30 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199511290021.OAA18168@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Donald Burr "Re: Intel Endeavor" (Nov 28, 2:50pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel Endeavor Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk } > You guys are going to love this one.. } > >From the folks that brought you the infamous FDIV bug. } >... } > Is anyone aware of some PC AT spec that limits } > the bottom dimension of a full width card? Did } > the engineer who made the FPU get demoted to } > motherboard design? Who is the bozo in this } > case? } } Don't single out Intel for this fault. I know we'd LIKE to, but it's not } really fair. I've seen this design fault in quite a number of non-Intel } motherboards out there, too. Sigh. } Sure, but aren't many of the available boards just Intel knock-offs? From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 29 00:50:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA21811 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 00:50:40 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA21805 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 00:50:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA05711 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 00:47:42 -0800 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: FYI.. Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 00:47:42 -0800 Message-ID: <5709.817634862@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk http://www.adaptec.com/sales/ATM155PCIFeatures.html Jordan From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 29 03:48:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA06048 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 03:48:14 -0800 Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA05903 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 03:48:01 -0800 Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA12681; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:47:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:47:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199511291147.NAA12681@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: FYI.. In-Reply-To: <5709.817634862@time.cdrom.com> References: <5709.817634862@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > http://www.adaptec.com/sales/ATM155PCIFeatures.html > > Jordan Is this some indication that there are drivers for FreeBSD coming in the near future for any of the ATM NIC cards available? Pete From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 29 04:32:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA08799 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 04:32:00 -0800 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA08793 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 04:31:55 -0800 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA11934; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:26:32 GMT From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199511291226.MAA11934@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FYI.. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:26:32 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5709.817634862@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 29, 95 00:47:42 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 808 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > http://www.adaptec.com/sales/ATM155PCIFeatures.html I particularly liked "A rowth path for the future", and the enthusiastic hyphenation. I wonder what paper size the HTML driver in their wordprocessor claims its talking to? 8) Hmm, so what will it take to get one going? Hmm? (or do DEC have an equivalent that Matt Thomas could be convinced to support? 8) > Jordan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 041-122-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 29 06:41:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA20282 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:41:09 -0800 Received: from spot.lodgenet.com (lodgenet.iw.net [204.157.148.88]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA19854 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:39:27 -0800 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by spot.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA28138; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:40:07 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA13299; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:54:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199511291454.IAA13299@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: "Paul F. Werkowski" cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Intel Endeavor In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:37:53 EST." <199511282037.PAA00853@snoopy.mv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:54:52 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Paul F. Werkowski" writes: > >We have a brandy new Pentium 120 Mhz system that our >customer (USAF) bought (from Austin Direct) to demo >our software. The motherboard, an Intel Endeavor I am >told, has three ISA slots in the lower left and a >CPU chip on the lower right positioned so that it >is directly in line with the slots, such that a full >length card in any slot will sit on top of the CPU. >OK so far. Now there is this nifty little heat sink >fan on top of the CPU to keep it from melting. The >fan protrudes 0.25 inch above the ISA slots such that >it is impossible to insert a full length card unless it >is notched to clear the fan! Naturally the critial >application card (a Spectrum Signal Processing >quad TMS320C31 board) is not so notched. Dang! > We've got the same problem here, except that we have at least two full length cards, sometimes four of 'em. It's getting harder and harder to find motherboards they'll even fit into let alone function properly. I've seen a lot of different permutations of not being able to fit a full length card in... either the CPU, or the simm banks or a head-sink/fan are in the way. Now the newest problem is that manufacturers are taking isa slots off in favor of pci slots, and putting crap in front of the isa slots so that you could put a full-length pci card in (if they existed) but not an isa card. :( Full length cards seem to be a thing of the past. >Is anyone aware of some PC AT spec that limits >the bottom dimension of a full width card? Did >the engineer who made the FPU get demoted to >motherboard design? Who is the bozo in this >case? I would guess that there is no spec for or against it. And on top of it, I would also guess the screwball engineer got a promotion or something for `ingeniously' cramming the motherboard into a smaller footprint. > >Paul >-------------- >Paul Werkowski ANSI Common Lisp on Intel? >pw@snoopy.mv.com http://www.mv.com/users/pw/lisp > eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 29 08:04:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA26311 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:04:58 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA26301 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:04:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA08122; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:00:09 -0800 To: Petri Helenius cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FYI.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:47:18 +0200." <199511291147.NAA12681@silver.sms.fi> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:00:09 -0800 Message-ID: <8120.817660809@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, such efforts are *also* underway, but this was just FYI on a possible target for further drivers.. Jordan > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > http://www.adaptec.com/sales/ATM155PCIFeatures.html > > > > Jordan > > Is this some indication that there are drivers for FreeBSD coming in the > near future for any of the ATM NIC cards available? > > Pete From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 29 08:29:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA28406 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:29:19 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA28401 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:29:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA08269 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:25:04 -0800 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone had any experience with the Barracuda 8? Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:25:03 -0800 Message-ID: <8267.817662303@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk http://www.seagate.com/sales/cuda/cuda.html From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 29 15:18:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA00954 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:18:54 -0800 Received: from plains.nodak.edu (89@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA00949 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:18:47 -0800 Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA18194; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:18:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:18:37 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199511292318.RAA18194@plains.nodak.edu> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: FYI.. Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > http://www.adaptec.com/sales/ATM155PCIFeatures.html > I think the hard part will be kernel hooks to establish/maintaining/destroy the VCs and the kernel hooks to do the signalling. There are free LAN Emulation packages out the place on top of that. I suppose the ATM docs would be $$; I know the PCI adapters are not cheap. I know there is a desire here to have ATM into FreeBSD and money is set aside to buy a ATM card. I am just afraid to be the one to jump into the project alone. --mark. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 30 11:19:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA13234 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:19:24 -0800 Received: from mail2.digital.com (mail2.digital.com [204.123.2.56]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA13229 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:19:22 -0800 Received: from muggsy.lkg.dec.com by mail2.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA17697; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:12:40 -0800 Received: from whydos.lkg.dec.com by muggsy.lkg.dec.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) with SMTP id AA14829; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:12:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whydos.lkg.dec.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA02800; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:18:30 GMT Message-Id: <199511301918.TAA02800@whydos.lkg.dec.com> X-Authentication-Warning: whydos.lkg.dec.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Smith Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FYI.. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:26:32 GMT." <199511291226.MAA11934@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5omega 10/6/94 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:18:28 +0000 From: Matt Thomas Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > > > http://www.adaptec.com/sales/ATM155PCIFeatures.html > > I particularly liked "A rowth path for the future", and the enthusiastic > hyphenation. I wonder what paper size the HTML driver in their > wordprocessor claims its talking to? 8) > > Hmm, so what will it take to get one going? Hmm? (or do DEC > have an equivalent that Matt Thomas could be convinced to support? 8) Now I wonder what Jordan means by that ('especially considering i have this big long PCI card with MMF connectors and that runs at 155Mb/s)? In my constantly overbooked free time, I have plans to write a *BSD driver for DEC^H^Higital's PCI ATM card (ATMworks ???) which is about US$2000. I have no time tables yet but I keep thinking about how to structure the driver. Go to http://www.networks.digital.com/ and find to the page describing TURBOChannel PCI ATM adapter. It will only support PVCs initial with minimal IPv4 over ATM implementation. The unfortunate thing is that I'll be too busy to make much progress for a number of weeks (like until Febuary). Matt Thomas Internet: matt@lkg.dec.com 3am Software Foundry WWW URL: Westford, MA Disclaimer: Digital disavows all knowledge of this message