From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 00:39:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA09325 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 00:39:14 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA09315 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 00:39:03 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA07902; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:38:32 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA07883; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:38:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199509240738.JAA07883@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm), mark@grondar.za, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, CVS-commiters@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-games@freefall.freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/x11/xneko xneko.c Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:38:28 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This has blown up out of proportion. I am not trying to get rid of games. I was wondering why there were X programs in our non-X distribution, and there was a suggestion that those two ONLY should go to ports. M > > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 1995, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > * > Modified: games/x11/xneko xneko.c > > > > > > > > * Just out of interest: What are X programs doing in the FreeBSD distr ibutio > > > n? > > > > * should they not be in ports? > > > > > > > > Apparently (according to the cvs logs), they came with the 4.4-Lite > > > > tape. But I agree with you, it doesn't make much sense to have these > > > > in the main source tree when we don't have X in there! ;) > > > > > > > > And if you just want a cute demo...well, xneko maybe, but xroach is > > > > nothing short of "disgusting". :< > > > > > > I _love_ xroach! I have got some very satisfying (female) screams from > > > running it! :-> :-> :-> > > > > Likewise.. IMHO, *all* of the games should go to "ports". :-) > > And that is YO, CSRG saw it fit to put the games in BSD, this issue > seems to come up about 4 months after new folks come on board. The games > have been part of BSD for a very long time. Removing them moves the > base away from what people expect when you say BSD derived. > > > > I propose to move them to ports. > > > > > > Seconded. > > I am opposed to removing any functionality provided in BSD 4.4 Lite or Lite > 2. > > > The only problem is that there's no real mechanism for actually providing > > a complete "kit", including packaging, source and the works. The only > > way we can make a port out of it, is to make a tar.gz of the source as it > > currently stands and then put it on freefall's ftp area. > > If you don't like the games there has already been complete mechanisms > put in place so you don't have to have them. src tree builds without > them, you can install the binary releases without them. Leave it alone > please. > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grumble.grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 01:21:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA11205 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 01:21:59 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA11198 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 01:21:54 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA04879; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:21:51 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA22161; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:21:50 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA29581; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 08:17:44 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199509240717.IAA29581@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net/dip - Imported sources To: swallace@ece.uci.edu (Steven Wallace) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 08:17:44 +0100 (MET) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, ports@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199509232206.PAA02966@newport.ece.uci.edu> from "Steven Wallace" at Sep 23, 95 03:06:47 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 835 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Steven Wallace wrote: > > That is another problem - the lockfile. If I start it up and then > it is unsuccessfull, then there is a lockfile in /var/spool/lock > so the next time it starts up it complains and doesn't open the serial port. The next version is said to at least remove the lockfiles again (despite of the fact that either the Linux as the Bartz version had a *totally* screwed lockfile handling at all; it simply didn't work). Look into patch-c, you are welcome to improve the lockfile handling. If there's a lockfile around, examine it, and see if you can send a signal to the process mentioned. If this is unsuccesful, it's a stale lockfile and can safely be removed. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 13:34:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA12745 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:34:53 -0700 Received: from localhost.lightside.com (user57.lightside.com [198.81.209.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA12734 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:34:46 -0700 Received: (from jehamby@localhost) by localhost.lightside.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00497; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:35:42 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Hamby X-Sender: jehamby@localhost To: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: GNAT Ada compiler: chicken & egg? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm currently in the process of compiling the GNU/NYU Ada Translator (or GNAT) which sits on top of GCC. Since GNAT itself is WRITTEN in Ada, it's going to be a tough chicken-and-egg sort of thing: It looks like I'm going to have to cross-compile GNAT on another machine which already has GNAT (my SPARCstation 20 at work, for example) and then, if all goes well, I'll be able to compile GNAT with itself on my FreeBSD box. A couple of questions for other ports hackers: When I'm finished, I guess I'd have to upload GNAT as both a package and a port, since unless you already have GNAT, building it from source is next to impossible. Has anyone else pursued or ported similar "self-compiling" programs, and can you give me any tips? BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm messing with a language like Ada, suffice it to say that it's the primary language at my university (Cal Poly, Pomona), and it's a very powerful, modern, object-oriented sort of language (esp. Ada 95 compilers such as GNAT), although very anal-retentive (more so than Pascal, even).. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jake Hamby | E-Mail: jehamby@lightside.com Student, Cal Poly University, Pomona | System Administrator, JPL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 13:41:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA13018 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:41:51 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA13010 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:41:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA01892; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:41:35 -0700 To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCL In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Sep 1995 15:38:05 EDT." Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:41:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1890.811975295@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > and to your 120 column lines, too. I'm tempted to repost that, in > reformatted style. I think I like your concept, tho. I was a slave to 80 columns for a long time, too. Then I wised up! :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 14:10:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA14334 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 14:10:26 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA14325 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 14:10:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA02042; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 14:09:18 -0700 To: Peter Wemm cc: Mark Murray , Satoshi Asami , CVS-commiters@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-games@freefall.freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/x11/xneko xneko.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 23 Sep 1995 20:09:41 +0800." Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 14:09:18 -0700 Message-ID: <2040.811976958@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > IMHO, packaging it up into "LOCAL_PORTS" on freefall is pretty gross. On > the other hand, it'd be a shame to bloat the size of the ports collection. I think this is the least gross solution. Still gross, yes, but we're talking about picking the least of multiple evils. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 14:15:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA14662 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 14:15:49 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA14656 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 14:15:39 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA08579; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:15:24 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA01509; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:15:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199509242115.XAA01509@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Peter Wemm , Mark Murray , Satoshi Asami , CVS-commiters@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-games@freefall.freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/x11/xneko xneko.c Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:15:22 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > IMHO, packaging it up into "LOCAL_PORTS" on freefall is pretty gross. On > > the other hand, it'd be a shame to bloat the size of the ports collection. > > I think this is the least gross solution. Still gross, yes, but we're > talking about picking the least of multiple evils. Is there no bsd-4.4 master site anywhere that could be used as a 'reference' source? M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grumble.grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 15:48:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA18532 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 15:48:45 -0700 Received: from localhost.lightside.com (user56.lightside.com [198.81.209.56]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA18525 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 15:48:42 -0700 Received: (from jehamby@localhost) by localhost (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01586; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 15:47:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 15:47:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Hamby X-Sender: jehamby@localhost To: Sean Eric Fagan cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNAT Ada compiler: chicken & egg? In-Reply-To: <199509242203.PAA27643@kithrup.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 24 Sep 1995, Sean Eric Fagan wrote: > In article you write: > >I'm currently in the process of compiling the GNU/NYU Ada Translator (or > >GNAT) which sits on top of GCC. Since GNAT itself is WRITTEN in Ada, > >it's going to be a tough chicken-and-egg sort of thing: It looks like > >I'm going to have to cross-compile GNAT on another machine which already > >has GNAT (my SPARCstation 20 at work, for example) and then, if all goes > >well, I'll be able to compile GNAT with itself on my FreeBSD box. > > Get the linux version -- we should be able to run that, no? > > Sean. > Well, technically, I might be able to run the Linux version of GNAT, since it only translates Ada to C, but I'm not sure if the existing version of FreeBSD GCC is smart enought to call the Ada front-end.. I'm still busy building a FreeBSD cross-compiler on my SPARC, and I'll try to pursue both possibilities. Hmmm, your idea just might work, thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jake Hamby | E-Mail: jehamby@lightside.com Student, Cal Poly University, Pomona | System Administrator, JPL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 23:30:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA03280 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:30:48 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA03163 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:28:36 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA14572 for ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:17:37 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509250647.QAA14572@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Somebody with Motif? To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:17:37 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2805 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ...might want to look at porting this : > >From: mai@X4U2.DESY.DE (Oliver Mai) > >Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.announce > >Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Moxfm - a free Motif filemanager > >Date: 14 Sep 1995 21:05:48 -0700 > >Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology > >Lines: 43 > >Sender: daemon@net.bio.net > >Approved: usenet@net.bio.net > >Distribution: inet > >Message-ID: <9509150259.AA00914@expo.x.org> > >NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net > > Moxfm is a free OSF/Motif based file and application manager > for generic Unix systems running X11. Moxfm allows you to > browse your directory tree and to copy, move, link and delete > files in an intuitive way by simple drag-and-drop actions. > It provides context-sensitive popup menus. Directory displays > are updated automatically in regular intervals when the > contents of the directory changes. > The integrated application manager provides a kind of shelf on > which you can place your favorite applications, as well as the > files and directories you are currently working with. It also > allows you to access different groups of applications and files. > User-definable file types let you specify a command to be > executed when double-clicking on a file or dropping other files > onto it. Last not least, moxfm can automatically mount and > unmount special devices like floppies as you open and close the > corresponding directories (mount points) or copy files to them. > > I have written moxfm using the source code of the excellent > Athena widgets based xfm file manager. Moxfm uses configuration > files with the same format as xfm (except the device > configuration file). The program is not exactly a Motif port > of xfm, but additional features have been added, e.g. > support for multiple application windows. > > I have uploaded the sources of moxfm to > ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/applications/moxfm-src.tgz . > The most recent version of moxfm and binary releases for Linux, > HP-UX 9.x and IRIX 5.x are always available from my WWW page > http://ips105.desy.de:8765/~mai/moxfm . There you will find screen > snapshots as well. > > If you have questions concerning moxfm or problems compiling > or running it, e-mail me. > > Have fun, > > Oliver Mai > (mai@x4u2.desy.de) > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Oliver Mai, Hamburg university > Visit my WWW home page: http://ips105.desy.de:8765/~mai > > -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Sep 25 14:49:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA23499 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 14:49:23 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA23493 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 14:49:19 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA29416; Mon, 25 Sep 95 21:49:17 GMT Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA11514; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:49:14 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:49:14 -0600 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9509252149.AA11514@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports startup scripts Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Coranth" == Coranth Gryphon writes: Coranth> But throwing out the entire "rc" script concept, and Coranth> going with (pick an implemention, any mutant Coranth> implementation) SysV-clone I consider bad. Agreed. So what we *really* DON'T need is an all-singing, all-dancing automatic startup/shutdown configuration manager with cycle detection and autoremoval that ports, packages, and anyone else can use, along with a WWW based browser/editor so even someone with less computer experience that one could possibly gain on a Mac can jump right in and with a few drags of the mouse, make one's in.gaflorkd to start up before /usr/libexec/rpc.rfribbitzd. Or, perhaps I should say ... It's NOT THAT HARD to use your own built-in pattern recognition software and hand-configure /etc/rc.local. Often times, the software configuration issue is so complex, what with commercial vendors who won't give you the time of day (much less answer the phone) to poorly assembled freeware, that there's really no better expedient than to read a few convoluted READMEs or what-have-you and fire up (all at the same time now) ``your favorite text editor.'' Remember Jordan's words: we lost the desktop market, and that seems to be the primary target of all this proposed reconfiguration. People using are systems will have enough gray matter to know what to do when they see: % make install Installing fizzlefrazzle-1.2 install -c -o bin -g bin -m 555 fizzd /usr/local/libexec install -c -o bin -g bin -m 555 fizzclean /usr/local/libexec install -c -o bin -g bin -m 555 fizzle /usr/local/bin Installation complete. Now, edit your /etc/rc.local file and add a line to start fizzd. Also, add fizzclean to root's cron, set to run every half hour, more if you think you need it. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA A power surge on the Bridge is fails to electrocute the user of a computer panel, due to a highly sophisticated 24th century surge protection feature called a 'fuse'. -- One of 46 things that never happen on Star Trek From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Sep 25 15:46:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA27453 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:46:16 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA27443 ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:46:12 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA29897; Mon, 25 Sep 95 22:44:13 GMT Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA11640; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:44:08 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:44:08 -0600 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9509252244.AA11640@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: terry@lambert.org Cc: gryphon@healer.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509252234.PAA06011@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:34:10 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: ports startup scripts Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Terry" == Terry Lambert writes: Terry> The UNIX desktop was not "lost", it was "conceded without a Terry> fight". Whatever. There's still probably going to be little return (in our project, I suppose that's measured by the size of the user base) on any investment put into completely automating package installation that requires system configuration. Terry> If /etc is read-only, well, then you're SOL. But the more experienced user who's given himself a read-only /etc should know what to do. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA TASK: Shoot yourself in the foot. In FORTH: Foot in yourself shoot. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Sep 25 15:57:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA28341 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:57:57 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA28332 ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:57:31 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA06113; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:51:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509252251.PAA06113@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ports startup scripts To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:51:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, gryphon@healer.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9509252244.AA11640@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Sep 25, 95 04:44:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 451 Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Terry> If /etc is read-only, well, then you're SOL. > > But the more experienced user who's given himself a read-only /etc > should know what to do. But the more experienced user who's manually manipulating the startup and cron directories instead of using an administrative tool should know what to do. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Sep 25 16:07:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA28644 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:07:16 -0700 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA28617 ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:07:07 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA12073; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:09:11 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:09:11 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199509252309.RAA12073@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Terry Lambert Cc: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly), freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports startup scripts In-Reply-To: <199509252251.PAA06113@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <9509252244.AA11640@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> <199509252251.PAA06113@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert writes: > > Terry> If /etc is read-only, well, then you're SOL. > > > > But the more experienced user who's given himself a read-only /etc > > should know what to do. > > But the more experienced user who's manually manipulating the startup > and cron directories instead of using an administrative tool should > know what to do. No way, no how. I've been adminstering BSD systems for years and years, and I still have problems on SysV boxes trying to find things. Your way requires change (ie; more work), while Sean is arguing for the less work case. The average FreeBSD user won't gain anything with the change (asserting that the Desktop is lost), so why give ourselves more work being different just to be different? Nate From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Sep 25 17:29:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA01631 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:29:46 -0700 Received: from MediaCity.com (easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA01626 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:29:44 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA19418 for ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:32:04 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199509260032.RAA19418@MediaCity.com> Subject: re: moxfm (was: Somebody with Motif?) To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:32:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 970 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > ...might want to look at porting this : > > > Moxfm is a free OSF/Motif based file and application manager > > for generic Unix systems running X11. Moxfm allows you to > > browse your directory tree and to copy, move, link and delete > > files in an intuitive way by simple drag-and-drop actions. > > It provides context-sensitive popup menus. Directory displays > > are updated automatically in regular intervals when the > > contents of the directory changes. Pretty cool. I've made available a statically compiled version however the mounttab handling in one of the functions didn't look too portable, so it is commented out in the version I compiled. Someone, who knows more about this stuff than I, might want to look at src/FmMount.c and see about porting the function checkDevices(void). I compiled it on a -current system. It installs into /usr/X11R6. ftp://ftp.mediacity.com/pub/brian/moxfm-static-current.tgz Brian Litzinger brian@MediaCity.com From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Sep 25 17:34:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA01859 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:34:36 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA01850 ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:34:31 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA06329; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:31:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509260031.RAA06329@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ports startup scripts To: nate@rocky.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:31:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, kelly@fsl.noaa.gov, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199509252309.RAA12073@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Sep 25, 95 05:09:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 541 Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Your way requires change (ie; more work), while Sean is arguing for the > less work case. The average FreeBSD user won't gain anything with the > change (asserting that the Desktop is lost), so why give ourselves more > work being different just to be different? Why does having a utility to adminster the system imply "desktop! desktop" in your mind? Because it's usable by desktop-level people? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 00:14:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA19869 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:14:51 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA19813 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:14:34 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA01088; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:14:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:14:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260714.AAA01088@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: pst@freebsd.org CC: CVS-commiters@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199509231817.LAA15152@freefall.freebsd.org> (pst) Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net/cern_linemode/pkg COMMENT DESCR PLIST From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 11:17:10 -0700 * From: Paul Traina * * pst 95/09/23 11:17:09 * * Removed: net/cern_linemode Makefile * net/cern_linemode/files md5 * net/cern_linemode/patches patch-aa * net/cern_linemode/pkg COMMENT DESCR PLIST * Log: * program no longer maintained by author or porter ^^^^^^ Paul, as much as I appreciate your help on the ports area, I will have to question this one. You are not the porter of this one, I got it from another person (Satoshi Niimi) and committed it. All the commits to this port so far has been by me. Don't you think at least it's common courtesy to contact us first before removing the port from our tree? Satoshi (Asami) P.S. Sorry if you asked the original porter directly.... From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 00:17:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA20379 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:17:34 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA20360 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:17:29 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA01129; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:17:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:17:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260717.AAA01129@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: pst@freebsd.org CC: CVS-commiters@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199509231818.LAA15300@freefall.freebsd.org> (pst) Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Removed obsolete CERN server and line-mode browser. CERN moved the files, * made it insane to port, What do you mean? You asked me why bsd.port.mk can't fetch two files from different directories, I replied that it is the bug in ncftp and is there is a work-around in the latest version of bsd.port.mk. Or was there something else to make it "insane"? * and hasn't maintained this stuff in over a year. Well if this is the reason, that's ok. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 00:40:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA22301 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:40:35 -0700 Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA22294 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:40:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA08010; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:39:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260739.AAA08010@precipice.shockwave.com> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: CVS-commiters@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net/cern_linemode/pkg COMMENT DESCR PLIST In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:14:25 PDT." <199509260714.AAA01088@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:39:43 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net/cern_linemode/pkg COMMENT DESCR PLIST * Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 11:17:10 -0700 * From: Paul Traina * * pst 95/09/23 11:17:09 * * Removed: net/cern_linemode Makefile * net/cern_linemode/files md5 * net/cern_linemode/patches patch-aa * net/cern_linemode/pkg COMMENT DESCR PLIST * Log: * program no longer maintained by author or porter ^^^^^^ Paul, as much as I appreciate your help on the ports area, I will have to question this one. You are not the porter of this one, I got it from another person (Satoshi Niimi) and committed it. All the commits to this port so far has been by me. I'm sorry, but my recollection is most definitely different. Now, I'm not saying you're not right, but I recall doing the CERN linemode port to be complementry to the CERN browser port. If you re-check your records and you believe that I am wrong, then please accept my appology, as I believed I was the author of that port and the maintainer. Don't you think at least it's common courtesy to contact us first before removing the port from our tree? Satoshi (Asami) P.S. Sorry if you asked the original porter directly.... From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 00:42:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA22414 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:42:36 -0700 Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA22409 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:42:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA08033; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:41:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260741.AAA08033@precipice.shockwave.com> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: CVS-commiters@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:17:26 PDT." <199509260717.AAA01129@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:41:54 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Actually, I never saw a response from you, and after playing with Apache some more and checking over the features, and seeing that CERN wasn't making any effort to merge the server in with the new multi-threaded WWW libraries, I chose to remove the port. If you think this is a bad idea, then again, I apologise. If you think it should come back, please revert it and find a new maintainer, as I will no longer be available for that port. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules * Removed obsolete CERN server and line-mode browser. CERN moved the file >>s, * made it insane to port, What do you mean? You asked me why bsd.port.mk can't fetch two files from different directories, I replied that it is the bug in ncftp and is there is a work-around in the latest version of bsd.port.mk. Or was there something else to make it "insane"? * and hasn't maintained this stuff in over a year. Well if this is the reason, that's ok. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 00:48:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA22584 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:48:02 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA22579 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:47:59 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA17449; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:47:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:47:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260747.AAA17449@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: scott@statsci.com CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Scott Blachowicz on Fri, 22 Sep 1995 16:14:32 -0700) Subject: Re: which releases are /pub/FreeBSD/packages/* good for? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Is the packaging scheme smart enough to tell if I have a suitable OS revision * for being able to use a particular package? For instance, if I go grab * ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/packages/All/zsh-2.6b10.tgz and am able to * successfully pkg_add it, should I expect that it will work properly? I'm * running 2.0.5-RELEASE from CD. Or should I just go grab sources & build for * myself? Or should I just be patient and wait for the 2.1 CD? @ No, that's why we build packages in a batch in put them in package- directories. @ It depends, it should complain about the libc minor version number but zsh will probably work. @ Yes, that's probably the best idea at this point. With the ports mechanism, building the software yourself is almost as easy as adding it from a package. @ That's a good idea too. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 01:09:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA24386 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:09:42 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA24376 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:09:28 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA20378; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:09:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:09:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260809.BAA20378@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: pst@shockwave.com CC: CVS-commiters@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199509260739.AAA08010@precipice.shockwave.com> (message from Paul Traina on Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:39:43 -0700) Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net/cern_linemode/pkg COMMENT DESCR PLIST From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * I'm sorry, but my recollection is most definitely different. Now, I'm * not saying you're not right, but I recall doing the CERN linemode port * to be complementry to the CERN browser port. * * If you re-check your records and you believe that I am wrong, then please * accept my appology, as I believed I was the author of that port and the * maintainer. Well go to /usr/ports/net/cern_linemode and do "cvs rlog | grep author" then. That's what I did before sending out the previous mail. :) Anyway, apology accepted, no big deal. We can always resurrect it from the Attic. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 01:13:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA24557 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:13:16 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA24543 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:12:53 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA21166; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:12:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:12:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260812.BAA21166@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: pst@shockwave.com CC: CVS-commiters@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199509260741.AAA08033@precipice.shockwave.com> (message from Paul Traina on Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:41:54 -0700) Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Actually, I never saw a response from you, This is really strange. I have a copy of the mail I sent to you, I'll resend it right after this. * and after playing with Apache * some more and checking over the features, and seeing that CERN wasn't * making any effort to merge the server in with the new multi-threaded WWW * libraries, I chose to remove the port. * * If you think this is a bad idea, then again, I apologise. If you think it * should come back, please revert it and find a new maintainer, as I will no * longer be available for that port. I have no preference whether this should come back or not, I know nothing about the www servers. :) However, our philosophy has been pretty open, and I'd like to keep it in there as long as someone is willing to maintain it. (We even got a question about it recently, right?) More choices for the user is never a bad thing, IMO. I'll ask Satoshi (not me, the porter of cern_linemode) if he would like to take this one too. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 01:38:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA25614 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:38:46 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA25607 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:38:41 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA02078; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:38:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:38:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260838.BAA02078@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: mark@grondar.za CC: jkh@time.cdrom.com, peter@jhome.DIALix.COM, mark@grondar.za, CVS-commiters@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-games@freefall.freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199509242115.XAA01509@grumble.grondar.za> (message from Mark Murray on Sun, 24 Sep 1995 23:15:22 +0200) Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/x11/xneko xneko.c From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Is there no bsd-4.4 master site anywhere that could be used as a 'reference' * source? Good line of thinking, we should probably look at this more if we ever decide to move all the games out of our main source tree. (Although I doubt we will agree to do this....) But for xneko and xroach, we don't even have to look that far, as these are programs posted to the source newsgroups some time ago. There are plenty of places that still carry the real "originals", so finding a suitable master site not a problem should we choose to move them to ports. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 01:50:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA26181 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:50:39 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA26170 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:50:33 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA05448; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:49:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 01:49:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260849.BAA05448@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM CC: mark@grondar.za, CVS-commiters@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-games@freefall.freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Peter Wemm on Sat, 23 Sep 1995 20:09:41 +0800 (WST)) Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/x11/xneko xneko.c From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * It'd be really nice if there was an easy, sanctioned way of including an * entire (SMALL!!) source tree somehow with the port, perhaps under * files/source/*? We could do away with patches, as we could just cvs commit * directly into the source. There has been an attempt to make this possible, as can be seen in the comment about NO_EXTRACT in the /usr/ports/GUIDELINES file. (Yeah I know, we should get rid of that file.) Unfortunately, it doesn't work real well. But it's not difficult anyway, you can just put them under "files" and make a do-extract rule that's a bunch of cp's. Not the most efficient way but very easy. * IMHO, packaging it up into "LOCAL_PORTS" on freefall is pretty gross. On * the other hand, it'd be a shame to bloat the size of the ports collection. I agree on both, and if it's real small (say, less than 10KB or so), I don't see any problem just putting the source in there. I'll strongly oppose bringing in a complete source tree unless it's very small though. The beauty of the ports collection is that we can tell the user to go "get ports.tar.gz", without having them getting annoyed by the amount of disk space required. Granted the ports collection has grown a lot recently, but the diskspace/# of ports ratio has remained constant. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 02:21:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA27946 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 02:21:28 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA27935 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 02:21:17 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA13098; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 02:20:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 02:20:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199509260920.CAA13098@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: doc@freebsd.org CC: ports@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/ports/GUIDELINES From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This file is obsolete, it's superseded by section 4.3 of the handbook. May I replace it with a file with "Please see the `Porting Applications' section of the handbook, available from...."? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 03:13:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA29763 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 03:13:34 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA29757 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 03:13:31 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA08163; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 03:13:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 03:13:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199509261013.DAA08163@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: knarf@nasim.cube.net CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <441bl1$9s4@nasim.nasim.cube.net> (knarf@nasim.cube.net) Subject: Re: gated From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Patch for /usr/ports/net/gated/Makefile: Thanks, committed. By the way, ".tar.gz" is the default for EXTRACT_SUFX, so that is not needed. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 03:20:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA00223 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 03:20:15 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA00140 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 03:19:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA03573 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:12:58 +0100 To: Satoshi Asami CC: ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports/GUIDELINES In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Sep 1995 02:20:59 PDT." <199509260920.CAA13098@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:12:57 +0100 Message-ID: <3571.812110377@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199509260920.CAA13098@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>, Satoshi Asami write s: >This file is obsolete, it's superseded by section 4.3 of the handbook. >May I replace it with a file with "Please see the `Porting >Applications' section of the handbook, available from...."? Nuke it altogether. Along with /usr/share/FAQ/Text/ports.FAQ. Probably leave a top level ``README'' with pointers to the relevant locations. (I just re-read ports.FAQ after a friend contacted me and said ``I've read ports.FAQ but I still don't know what the fsck a port is. HELP!?!?!?!??''. It's evil. It should die. It will die. It has been foretold :-) What was embarassing was he realised that I was the original author :-( Oh well ... ). Moral: it helps if you actually have some FAQ's to put in your FAQ before you start :-) Gary P.S. No, he didn't say ``fsck''. I'll leave it up to your imagination what the real word he used was ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 07:12:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA05088 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:12:21 -0700 Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA05062 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:12:03 -0700 Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA05212; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:11:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:11:41 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Satoshi Asami cc: pst@shockwave.com, CVS-commiters@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules In-Reply-To: <199509260812.BAA21166@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > I have no preference whether this should come back or not, I know > nothing about the www servers. :) > > However, our philosophy has been pretty open, and I'd like to keep it > in there as long as someone is willing to maintain it. (We even got a > question about it recently, right?) More choices for the user is > never a bad thing, IMO. Although I presonally think Apache is better, I agree that the CERN server should be in ports. There are many people who still use it. (but no, I'm not offering my services as a maintainer!) -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ============ From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 07:41:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA06971 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:41:15 -0700 Received: from www.ambook.org (spiders.com [199.224.7.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA06900 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:40:45 -0700 Received: (from gwh@localhost) by www.ambook.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04264; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:40:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199509261440.KAA04264@www.ambook.org> From: gwh@spiders.com (Gene W Homicki) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:40:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: John Fieber's message as of Sep 26, 9:11 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: John Fieber , Satoshi Asami Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Cc: pst@shockwave.com, CVS-commiters@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk +--- | Although I presonally think Apache is better, I agree that the CERN | server should be in ports. There are many people who still use it. (but | no, I'm not offering my services as a maintainer!) +--- A big reason to keep the CERN server around is that its not only a WWW server, it it is a proxy server. To my knowledge, none of the other freely available servers can act as a caching proxy, which is important in some enviornments...including some ISPs. --Gene PS. For those not familiar with proxy server, here's a short description of what it does: user HTTP, Gopher, and FTP requests can be directed at the proxy sever. The proxy then fetches the document, caches it locally, and returns a copy to the requesting client. If another client requests the document soon after the first (and the document hasn't expired or been bumped out of the proxy servers cache), the document is delivered from the proxy servers cache, rather than fetching a copy of the original. For a large ISP, this can be a big win on conserving bandwidth. -- Gene W. Homicki gwh@spiders.com Objective Consulting, Inc. http://www.spiders.com/ Internet Presence Design voice: +1 914.353.3511 From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 09:59:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA12865 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:59:38 -0700 Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA12845 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:59:31 -0700 Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA05502; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:59:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:59:06 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Satoshi Asami cc: doc@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports/GUIDELINES In-Reply-To: <199509260920.CAA13098@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > This file is obsolete, it's superseded by section 4.3 of the handbook. > May I replace it with a file with "Please see the `Porting > Applications' section of the handbook, available from...."? ...http://www.freebsd.org/How in HTML, Ascii and TeX formats... Coming soon to an ftp site near you! -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ============ From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 10:38:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA13973 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:38:35 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA13968 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:38:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA22925 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:38:26 -0700 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Stephen Hocking: Garden's Point Modula2 for FreeBSD! Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:38:26 -0700 Message-ID: <22923.812137106@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Anyone interested in "porting" this like netscape was ported? ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: owner-freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA21127 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:15:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA18873 ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:09:14 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA18825 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:09:06 -0700 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA18760 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 00:08:49 -0700 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <10751-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:08:13 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id RAA23622 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:13:14 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id HAA06814 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:15:42 GMT Message-Id: <199509260715.HAA06814@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Garden's Point Modula2 for FreeBSD! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:15:41 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk - ------- Forwarded Message Received: from pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id HAA06789 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:13:05 GMT Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with MHSnet id RAA22966 for sysseh; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:00:45 +1000 Received: from typhoon.dstc.qut.edu.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:54:49 +1000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by typhoon.dstc.qut.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA20336 for gpm-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:34:08 +1000 Received: (from lederman@localhost) by typhoon.dstc.qut.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA20405 for gpm@dstc.qut.edu.au; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:34:06 +1000 From: Jeff Ledermann Message-Id: <199509260634.QAA20405@typhoon.dstc.qut.edu.au> Subject: * Announcement * To: gpm@dstc.qut.edu.au Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:34:06 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3359 Sender: owner-gpm@dstc.qut.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gpm@dstc.qut.edu.au Announcing GPM for FreeBSD and new releases for DJGPP and EMX. File locations: ftp.fit.qut.edu.au:/pub/gpm ftp.psg.com:/pub/modula-2/gpm WEB Site: http://www.fit.qut.edu.au/CompSci/PLAS/GPM/ GPM-FreeBSD The FreeBSD version is yet another port of the Linux version of GPM. It is completely compatible with the Linux version in all respects. Refer to the Linux installation and release notes for any version specific information. GPM-Linux I've uploaded a new version "modula-sep95.tar.gz" but it simply consolidates the 4 "fixes", so existing users need not bother getting a new copy. GPM-DJGPP This version was compiled in a DOS window under Windows 95. GPM seems to work perfectly including handling long filenames. GPM-EMX This version was compiled under Warp. GPM works identically as under OS/2 2.1. The ISO I/O libraries are now integrated with the standard libraries as with other versions of GPM. BUG FIXES The "Out of Channels" problem after 50 Close's (RndFile & StreamFile) reported by Joerg Haas (Joerg_Haas@ac3.maus.de) has been fixed. 16-bit subrange comparisons were in some cases producing incorrect code (the compare was the wrong way around) Also an incorrect peephole optimisation was creating an erroneous overflow check which could cause a spurious overflow trap. These problems were reported by Claas Rink (honegger@amtrash.comlink.de) and were fixed in the Linux fix03. (fix04 was required for a bug in fix03) The compiler distributions have been placed into sub-directories by operating environment. The files in each sub-directory are prefixed by the language. Pick up the most recent one unless you have some reason to want an older one. Note that the GPM Oberon-2 distribution requires files from the Modula-2 compiler, so you'll need to down-load the modula- files as well for Oberon. README 13-Jul-95 13:57 9K README.gpmpc 13-Jul-95 13:57 5K SUPPORT.DOC 13-Jul-95 13:57 2K djgpp/ modula-jun95.zip 13-Jul-95 13:59 1.1M modula-sep95.zip 21-Sep-95 10:31 1.2M emx/ modula-may95.zip 13-Jul-95 13:59 846K modula-sep95.zip 20-Sep-95 14:20 793K oberon-may95.zip 13-Jul-95 13:59 393K freeBSD/ modula-sep95.tar.gz 25-Sep-95 14:50 730K gpmpc/ modula-aug95.zip 18-Aug-95 07:49 762K modula-mar95.zip 13-Jul-95 13:59 670K linux/ modula-sep95.tar.gz 21-Sep-95 14:15 691K oberon-apr95-fix01.tar.gz 12-Sep-95 09:39 109K oberon-apr95.tar.gz 13-Jul-95 14:00 362K manuals/ modula.ps.zip 13-Jul-95 14:00 627K modula.tex.zip 13-Jul-95 14:00 276K oberon.ps.zip 13-Jul-95 14:00 225K oberon.tex.zip 13-Jul-95 14:00 100K release-notes/ gpmpc.ps.zip 13-Jul-95 14:01 121K modula.ps.zip 13-Jul-95 14:01 122K modula.tex.zip 13-Jul-95 14:01 45K oberon.ps.zip 13-Jul-95 14:01 22K oberon.tex.zip 13-Jul-95 14:01 2K Enjoy. - - --- Jeffrey Ledermann lederman@dstc.qut.edu.au http://www.dstc.qut.edu.au/~lederman/ _--_|\ Faculty of Information Technology / QUT Queensland University of Technology \_.--._/ Box 2434 Brisbane 4001 AUSTRALIA v Ph: +61 7 3864 5337 Fax: +61 7 3864 1282 - ------- End of Forwarded Message I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 13:38:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA21147 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:38:04 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA21139 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:38:01 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14518(4)>; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:37:11 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <177475>; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:37:06 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Binary-only ports -- where to put README, CHANGES files? Message-Id: <95Sep26.133706pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:37:04 PDT Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I decided to follow Satoshi's lead in having created the binary-only 'netscape' port, and create ports for 'vat', 'wb', and 'sd', the conferencing tools from LBL. Now, deciding where to put the binaries and the man pages is easy. But there are examples that need to be installed as well (like "vat.tcl", the reference for what tcl code is compiled into vat). The Netscape port creates /usr/local/lib/netscape; I'm not sure I want to create /usr/local/lib/{vat,sd,wb}. In addition, I would really like to be able to stick stuff in /usr/share/skel, since there is a bug in 'vat' that can be worked around by a ~/.vat.tcl in everyone's home directory. But I know that the root filesystem is off-limits to ports. Any suggestions on either front? Thanks, Bill From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 15:16:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA26035 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:16:06 -0700 Received: from healer.com (healer-gw.Empire.Net [205.164.80.204]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA26014 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:15:58 -0700 Received: (from gryphon@localhost) by healer.com (8.6.11/8.6.9.1) id SAA18356; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:18:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:18:55 -0400 From: Coranth Gryphon Message-Id: <199509262218.SAA18356@healer.com> To: fenner@parc.xerox.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Binary-only ports -- where to put README, CHANGES files? Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >From owner-freebsd-ports@freefall.freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 17:05:41 1995 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Binary-only ports -- where to put README, CHANGES files? Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:37:04 PDT Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk From: Bill Fenner > In addition, I would really like to be able to stick stuff in > /usr/share/skel, since there is a bug in 'vat' that can be worked > around by a ~/.vat.tcl in everyone's home directory. But I know > that the root filesystem is off-limits to ports. Default login/cshrc scripts change from site to site. I think they belong in /etc/skel (still keeping all system config in /etc) rather that under /usr/... -coranth ------------------------------------------+------------------------+ Coranth Gryphon | "Faith Manages." | | - Satai Delenn | Phone: 603-598-3440 Fax: 603-598-3430 +------------------------+ USMail: 3 Hansom Drive, Merrimack, NH 03054 Disclaimer: All these words are yours, except Europa... From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 15:24:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA27101 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:24:01 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA27087 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:23:56 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA00997; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:23:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:23:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199509262223.PAA00997@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jehamby@lightside.com CC: ports@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from Jake Hamby on Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: GNAT Ada compiler: chicken & egg? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I'm currently in the process of compiling the GNU/NYU Ada Translator (or * GNAT) which sits on top of GCC. Since GNAT itself is WRITTEN in Ada, * it's going to be a tough chicken-and-egg sort of thing: It looks like * I'm going to have to cross-compile GNAT on another machine which already * has GNAT (my SPARCstation 20 at work, for example) and then, if all goes * well, I'll be able to compile GNAT with itself on my FreeBSD box. Hey, there is a gnat port, although I'm not sure if it compiles now, it fails here (on our test box...but this thing needs an upgrade badly, and that may be a problem, not the port). Anyway, the port is in ports/lang and the package is in packages-2.0.5/languages (since we haven't recompiled it since the release of 2.0.5 -- same goes to many others). You should be able to grab the package and use it to bootstrap it. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 16:54:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA09745 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:54:34 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA09736 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:54:31 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA01182; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:54:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:54:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199509262354.QAA01182@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: gryphon@healer.com CC: ports@freebsd.org, pds@freefall.freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199509260102.VAA14193@healer.com> (message from Coranth Gryphon on Mon, 25 Sep 1995 21:02:01 -0400) Subject: Re: Problems with packages, and general third party software. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk (Moved over from "hackers") * From: Peter da Silva * > One problem with installing things from packages is you don't get any * > convenient pointer to how to configure them. For example, if I hadn't * * That's a problem with the port not containing documentation on its * own configuration. This is absolutely correct. The pkg/DESCR file should describe the steps necessary for setting up the port, unless the man page is really good. Things like sample /etc/services lines is a good thing to have in DESCR. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Sep 26 19:33:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA29679 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 19:33:50 -0700 Received: from xi.dorm.umd.edu (xi.dorm.umd.edu [129.2.152.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA29644 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 19:33:36 -0700 Received: from xi.dorm.umd.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xi.dorm.umd.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA17514; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:32:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:32:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Sujal Patel X-Sender: smpatel@xi.dorm.umd.edu To: Rob Snow cc: "Ports@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Arrow keys in OLEO? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 21 Sep 1995, Rob Snow wrote: > Has anyone managed to get the arrow keys working in oleo? > > I've hacked around with the bindings tree for a while and still cant > make the suckers work properly. Put this in your .oleorc: bind-key main up-cell ^a", bind-key main right-cell ^c", bind-key main left-cell ^d", bind-key main down-cell ^b", Sujal From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 01:18:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA19782 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 01:18:17 -0700 Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA19772 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 01:18:01 -0700 Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA09881; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:16:57 +0100 From: Thomas Gellekum Message-Id: <199509270816.JAA09881@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Binary-only ports -- where to put README, CHANGES files? To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:16:56 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <95Sep26.133706pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Sep 26, 95 01:37:04 pm Organization: Institut f. Hochfrequenztechnik, RWTH Aachen X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 485 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Bill Fenner wrote: > > In addition, I would really like to be able to stick stuff in > /usr/share/skel, since there is a bug in 'vat' that can be worked > around by a ~/.vat.tcl in everyone's home directory. But I know > that the root filesystem is off-limits to ports. > > Any suggestions on either front? We have a complete ${PREFIX} hierarchy. Why don't you use ${PREFIX}/share/skel? Maybe the adduser script will have to be told about this, but that should be trivial. tg From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 02:58:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA25780 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 02:58:10 -0700 Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV (root@apollo.COSC.GOV [198.94.103.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA25768 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 02:58:04 -0700 Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA04869; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 02:57:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 02:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: -Vince- To: FreeBSD-ports@Freefall.FreeBSD.ORG Subject: apache 0.8.14 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Apache doesn't install correctly... root@apollo [2:54am][/usr/ports/net/apache/work/apache_0.8.14] >> make install mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server mkdir -p /usr/local/www/data mkdir -p /usr/local/www/icons mkdir -p /usr/local/www/cgi-bin mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server/conf mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server/logs install -c -s -m 755 -o root src/httpd /usr/local/sbin install -c -m 644 -o nobody icons/* /usr/local/www/icons for file in httpd.conf srm.conf access.conf mime.types ; do if [ -f /usr/local/ www/server/conf/$file ] ; then install -c -m 644 -o bin -g bin conf/$file-dist /usr/local/www/server/conf ; else install -c -m 644 -o bin -g bin conf/$file-d ist /usr/local/www/server/conf/$file ; fi ; done install: conf/mime.types-dist: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. root@apollo [2:55am][/usr/ports/net/apache/work/apache_0.8.14] >> Cheers, -Vince- vince@apollo.COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 03:07:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA26511 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 03:07:55 -0700 Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV (root@apollo.COSC.GOV [198.94.103.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA26502 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 03:07:48 -0700 Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA05201; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 03:06:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 03:06:55 -0700 (PDT) From: -Vince- To: FreeBSD-ports@Freefall.FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Apache 0.8.14 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Apache 0.8.14 doesn't install correctly as shown below... root@apollo [2:59am][/usr/ports/net/apache] >> make install Checksums OK. ===> Installing for apache-0.8.14 mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server mkdir -p /usr/local/www/data mkdir -p /usr/local/www/icons mkdir -p /usr/local/www/cgi-bin mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server/conf mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server/logs install -c -s -m 755 -o root src/httpd /usr/local/sbin install -c -m 644 -o nobody icons/* /usr/local/www/icons for file in httpd.conf srm.conf access.conf mime.types ; do if [ -f /usr/local/www/server/conf/$file ] ; then install -c -m 644 -o bin -g bin conf/$file-dist /usr/local/www/server/conf ; else install -c -m 644 -o bin -g bin conf/$file-dist /usr/local/ www/server/conf/$file ; fi ; done install: conf/mime.types-dist: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. root@apollo [DING!][/usr/ports/net/apache] >> Cheers, -Vince- vince@apollo.COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 07:57:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA02850 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:57:00 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA02841 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:56:51 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA14866 for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:56:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:56:48 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199509271456.HAA14866@time.cdrom.com> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Any interest in this? Now on second version Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Path: reason.cdrom.com!nntp-ucb.barrnet.net!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!in2.uu.net!news.tele.fi!news.funet.fi!news.helsinki.fi!usenet From: blackie@imada.ou.dk (Jesper Pedersen) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: configuration tool for Emacs, TCSH and FVWM Followup-To: comp.os.linux.setup Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:30:14 GMT Organization: Dept. of Math. & Computer Science, Odense University, Denmark Lines: 116 Approved: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov (Lars Wirzenius) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kruuna.helsinki.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Summary: second beta release of the Dotfile Generator Keywords: configuration tool, tcsh, emacs, fvwm, Dotfile Generator I'm pleased to announce the second beta release of the Dotfile Generator ver 1.1. If you don't know what the Dotfile Generator is then take a look at the WWW pages: http://www.imada.ou.dk/~blackie/dotfile/ You can download it from on of these sites: o ftp://ftp.imada.ou.dk/pub/dotfile (Europe) o ftp://ftp.eece.ksu.edu/pub/dotfile (USA) where it is located both as gziped and compressed: o dotfile.tar.gz o dotfile.tar.Z For those of you who know what the Dotfile Generator is, please continue with the Changes section. What is it: =========== The dotfile generator is two things: 1) It's a tool with which you can configure emacs, tcsh and fvwm (and soon bash, NCSA WWW server and procmail) The configuration is done with check buttons entries, list boxes, etc. All the way there's lots of help. 2) The Dotfile Generator is also a configuration tool where you can create a high level interface to your own programs. The Dotfile Generator uses tcl/tk so it is very flexible and powerful. Why should you use it? ====================== Well if you don't use either emacs, tcsh or fvwm, then there's no reason. If you know everything about the above programs, then there's no reason either, but before you decide that you know everything, please check these lists: o Emacs: - How do you tell emacs not to change group privileges of files you edit? - How do you persuade emacs not to insert lines at the end of a file when you press down arrow at the last line - How do you change the prefix command for outline mode - How do you change indentation in html-helper-mode - How do you tell emacs where the TclX help files are located etc. etc. o TCSH: - how do you insert the last exit code in your prompt? - how do you make tcsh add a slash or space on completion. - how do you make tcsh complete on directories only when you complete on the command "cd" ? or on process id's with kill? - how do you turn off the audio bell when completing? - how do you enable/disable automatic logout ? etc etc. o FVWM This module configures the FVWM window manager. It enables you to change all the options available and define your own functions and popup menus, for example: - The fonts used in menus, decorations and the internal pager - Which MWM options to enable - change the styles of different windows - change the appearance of your mouse cursor and much more. You might also want to make it easier for some users to configure a program you've written. If so, this is a perfect tool for that. Changes: ======== Dotfile Generator: * added support for "bytecompiling" * created the function which shall make it possible for the dotfile generator to read old save files. * Changed the save function, so it now is possible to add new element to a configuration page * added the possibility to read options on other configuration pages. * add state to the save file, so that state will be correct when the file is loaded. * added code to prevent that two configuration pages are loaded at once, which could happen if the user selected a new page before the last one had loaded. * changed the description box, so it now fill the whole page. * added copy,cut and paste for extended entries. * added support for system general save files. * changed the name of the executable files to dotfile * now all widget's are grey when they are disabled. TCSH module: * added page: additional variables * added 'PAGER' to misc page * pick the delimiter from a list in user defined completions, so that it was posible to have a slash in eg. the command to execute. * add the alias page * added umask to files page -- Send comp.os.linux.announce submissions to: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov PLEASE remember a short description of the software. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 11:57:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA10065 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:57:32 -0700 Received: from FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA10060 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:57:30 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA07511; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:57:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Any interest in this? Now on second version In-Reply-To: <199509271456.HAA14866@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > 1) It's a tool with which you can configure emacs, tcsh and fvwm (and soon > bash, NCSA WWW server and procmail) > The configuration is done with check buttons entries, list boxes, > etc. All the way there's lots of help. > I would be interested in this if it's available. I'm struggling trying to find the combinations of keys to do simple things that should be one key or two key combinations that I was told could be done with emacs. > - how do you enable/disable automatic logout ? I get stung by this when doing a make, as it logs out after an hour of no activity. Maybe I should redirect the output to a file. But I like the command history of tcsh. Can we download and use the files as is, or does a port need to be made? Wayne From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 12:21:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA11153 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:21:25 -0700 Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA11148 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:21:22 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA14116; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id PAA08547; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:17:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Wayne Hernandez cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Any interest in this? Now on second version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Wayne Hernandez wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > 1) It's a tool with which you can configure emacs, tcsh and fvwm (and soon > > bash, NCSA WWW server and procmail) > > The configuration is done with check buttons entries, list boxes, > > etc. All the way there's lots of help. > > Hey, the KSU ftp server seems busted, and I already deleted the original message. Could someone please send the original to me, so I can get the address of the European source? > > I would be interested in this if it's available. I'm struggling trying > to find the combinations of keys to do simple things that should be one > key or two key combinations that I was told could be done with emacs. > > > - how do you enable/disable automatic logout ? > > I get stung by this when doing a make, as it logs out after an hour of no > activity. Maybe I should redirect the output to a file. But I like the > command history of tcsh. > > Can we download and use the files as is, or does a port need to be made? > > Wayne > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 12:39:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA11707 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:39:05 -0700 Received: from healer.com (healer-gw.Empire.Net [205.164.80.204]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA11689 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:38:57 -0700 Received: (from gryphon@localhost) by healer.com (8.6.11/8.6.9.1) id PAA21749; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:41:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:41:20 -0400 From: Coranth Gryphon Message-Id: <199509271941.PAA21749@healer.com> To: hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Any interest in this? Now on second version Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: Wayne Hernandez > > tcsh - how do you enable/disable automatic logout ? > I get stung by this when doing a make, as it logs out after an hour of no > activity. Maybe I should redirect the output to a file. But I like the > command history of tcsh. unset autologout -coranth ------------------------------------------+------------------------+ Coranth Gryphon | "Faith Manages." | | - Satai Delenn | Phone: 603-598-3440 Fax: 603-598-3430 +------------------------+ USMail: 3 Hansom Drive, Merrimack, NH 03054 Disclaimer: All these words are yours, except Europa... From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 12:47:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA12061 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:47:52 -0700 Received: from FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA12055 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:47:50 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA08665; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:47:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any interest in this? Now on second version In-Reply-To: <199509271456.HAA14866@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Looks like we need tk 4.0 but the ports/distfiles has version 3.6. The link in the web page is not up for getting the 4.0 sources. Anybody already have 4.0 compiled, or have the sources? I'm going to need the sources to compile on a Sun as well, so I guess I need more than just the compiled version. Wayne From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 13:21:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA13159 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:21:34 -0700 Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA13153 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:21:24 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15569; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id QAA09862; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:21:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Wayne Hernandez cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any interest in this? Now on second version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Wayne Hernandez wrote: > > Looks like we need tk 4.0 but the ports/distfiles has version 3.6. The > link in the web page is not up for getting the 4.0 sources. Anybody > already have 4.0 compiled, or have the sources? > > I'm going to need the sources to compile on a Sun as well, so I guess I > need more than just the compiled version. Take a look at the /usr/ports/lang/tcl74 Makefile, it's correct, and it points to ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:/ucb/tcl, where both tcl74 and tk40 live. I just checked it, they are actually there, all right. > > Wayne > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 13:28:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA13318 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:28:56 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA13313 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:28:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA16015; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:28:43 -0700 To: Wayne Hernandez cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Any interest in this? Now on second version In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:57:16 PDT." Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:28:43 -0700 Message-ID: <16013.812233723@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can we download and use the files as is, or does a port need to be made? Doing a port would certainly make it more useful to other people. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 13:30:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA13400 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:30:46 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA13395 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:30:43 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01788; Wed, 27 Sep 95 20:30:36 GMT Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA01754; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 14:30:34 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 14:30:34 -0600 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9509272030.AA01754@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: hernanw@fsl.orst.edu Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Wayne Hernandez on Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:57:16 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Any interest in this? Now on second version Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Wayne" == Wayne Hernandez writes: Wayne> On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> 1) It's a tool with which you can configure emacs, tcsh and >> fvwm (and soon bash, NCSA WWW server and procmail) Wayne> Can we download and use the files as is, or does a port Wayne> need to be made? When I last tried it (about a month ago), it worked on FreeBSD with little or no changes. I did find that it really didn't make the task of setting up your dot files that much easier. But that was probably because I couldn't get past the clunky user interface. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 15:46:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA17168 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:46:21 -0700 Received: from Wit401402.student.utwente.nl (Wit401402.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA17161 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:46:16 -0700 Received: (from alain@localhost) by Wit401402.student.utwente.nl (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA01098; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:46:11 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:46:11 +0100 (MET) From: Alain Kalker Reply-To: A.C.P.M.Kalker@student.utwente.nl To: -Vince- cc: FreeBSD-ports@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 0.8.14 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, -Vince- wrote: > > Apache 0.8.14 doesn't install correctly as shown below... > [make install output deleted] Also, the files installed as /usr/local/www/server/conf/access.conf{,-dist} are not updated to the chosen installation directories, e.g. they contain references to: /usr/local/etc/httpd/htdocs/ and not to what DocumentRoot is set to (as suggested by the comments), e.g.: /usr/local/www/data --- Alain From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Sep 27 18:49:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA22311 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:49:22 -0700 Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA22306 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:49:18 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.Beta.14/8.7.Beta.14) with ESMTP id VAA07771 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 21:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id VAA14073; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 21:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 21:49:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-Ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Of interest ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I spotted this stuff below on Usenet, and it seemed interesting, especially the references to other stuff, so I thought I'd share it. [various headers deleted] Announcing TclVSrpt v1.0 (Tcl Very Simple Report writer) ========== ======== ==== ==== ==== ====== ====== ======= TclVSrpt is a set of 10 Tcl procedures for easily creating either ASCII or Postscript(TM) documents from within Tcl applications. TclVSrpt is written in vanilla Tcl 7.3 / 7.4 / 7.5 commands and requires no C code extensions or patches to the Tcl interpreter. As a result, TclVSrpt is suitable for use from any Tcl application environment. Features: * Same command interface for ASCII or Postscript documents (simple switch setting). * Any paper size, with portrait or landscape orientation. * Extensive control over margins, page headers, page footers, and page numbering. * Unlimited number of text style definitions allowed. * Left, centered, right, or justified line alignment options. * Completely configurable tab stops with left, centered, and right alignment, and absolute or nearest tab styles. * 11 standard Postscript fonts supported with size, italic, and bolding controls. * Inter-line gap (leading) and text wrapping under user control. * Automatic, unconditional, or conditional page ejection. * All dimensions and sizings may be given in either points, inches, or centimeters. * Output directed to file or printer with multiple copy support. * TclVSrpt procedures use dashed command line options rather than positional arguments for ease of use and maintainability. * Postscript documents conform to Postscript file structuring rules, and are suitable for use by most Postscript utilities. * The TclVSrpt User documentation is actually provided as a sample TclVSrpt application. TclVSrpt should be approached as mature beta quality software. While we use TclVSrpt in our production environment, due to the large number of configuration options available, we can't assume that we have tested each and every possible combination. TclVSrpt is part of the TclVS family of Tcl application development tools. Also of this family are TclVSdb, a Tcl 7.3 / 7.4 / 7.5 multi-user, multi-table-row-column-list oriented database facility that maps natively into Tcl array variables and Tcl lists. Another TclVS tool is TkVSform, a Tk 4.0 forms package for quickly, clearly, consistently, and tersely defining application user interfaces. These three packages work well together, but each may be used independently. TclVSrpt may be found at: ftp://ftp.aud.alcatel.com/tcl/code/TclVSrpt-1.0.tar.gz or alternately: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ci/cirque/TclVSrpt-1.0.tar.gz If you have problems obtaining TclVSrpt, contact: steven@cirque.com NOTICE: Postscript is a registered trademark of Adobe Systems, Incorporated. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Steven B. Wahl Email: steven@cirque.com + + Cirque Labs, Inc. Phone: 303-258-0100 (direct) + + P. O. Box 1774 / 268 W Third St FAX: 303-258-7255 + + Nederland, CO 80466 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Sep 28 10:02:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA20613 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:02:35 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA20604 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:02:17 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA13872 (5.65.kiae-2 for ports@freebsd.org); Thu, 28 Sep 1995 20:52:51 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Thu, 28 Sep 95 20:52:47 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA01063 for ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 19:52:17 +0300 To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 19:52:17 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Elm & NO_PACKAGE Lines: 7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 362 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does somebody knows, why elm have NO_PACKAGE? What restrictions are? -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Sep 28 14:58:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA03872 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:58:38 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA03857 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:58:27 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id WAA26696; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:58:16 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA01342; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:58:16 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA00623; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:56:52 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199509282156.WAA00623@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Elm & NO_PACKAGE To: ache@astral.msk.su (=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:56:51 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" at Sep 28, 95 07:52:17 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 373 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= wrote: > > Does somebody knows, why elm have NO_PACKAGE? > What restrictions are? No restrictions, but i think it tries to compile host-specific parameters into the binary. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 01:18:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA03153 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 01:18:54 -0700 Received: from outgate.zeus.leitch.com (outgate.leitch.com [198.53.146.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA03147 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 01:18:48 -0700 Received: from tap.zeus.leitch.com (tap.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.60.10]) by outgate.zeus.leitch.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA00353 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:21:14 -0400 Received: from ale.zeus.leitch.com (ale.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.60.65]) by tap.zeus.leitch.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16175 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:21:13 -0400 From: Dave Chapeskie Received: (dchapes@localhost) by ale.zeus.leitch.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA03532 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:21:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199509290821.EAA03532@ale.zeus.leitch.com> Subject: cflow-2.0 port done. To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:21:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 365 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/cflow_port.tgz there now lies cflow 2.0 in FreeBSD's port format. CFlow generates call graphs for C source code. It's not the best but I didn't see anything better lying around, if you know of something better please let me know. -- Dave Chapeskie Leitch Technology International Inc. Email: dchapes@zeus.leitch.com From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 01:49:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA04128 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 01:49:03 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA04109 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 01:48:52 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA00864; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 01:48:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 01:48:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199509290848.BAA00864@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: pst@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU CC: ports@freebsd.org Subject: [alain@Wit401402.student.utwente.nl: Re: Apache 0.8.14] From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Paul, can you please join the ports list? There have been some bug reports concerning Apache, and you have your feet deep into the "ports" pond I think you should be on the list.... :) Satoshi ------- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:46:11 +0100 (MET) From: Alain Kalker To: -Vince- cc: FreeBSD-ports@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 0.8.14 On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, -Vince- wrote: > > Apache 0.8.14 doesn't install correctly as shown below... > [make install output deleted] Also, the files installed as /usr/local/www/server/conf/access.conf{,-dist} are not updated to the chosen installation directories, e.g. they contain references to: /usr/local/etc/httpd/htdocs/ and not to what DocumentRoot is set to (as suggested by the comments), e.g.: /usr/local/www/data --- Alain From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 02:06:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA05960 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:06:20 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA05944 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:06:05 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA00926; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:05:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:05:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199509290905.CAA00926@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: tcl-7.4 / tk-4.0 From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What should we do with these little beasts? I first let them generate shared libtcl.so.7.4 and libtk.so.4.0, and then I found out that old tcl/tk programs don't compile anymore (because ld will pick up the newer versions automatically). So I renamed them to libtcl74.so.1.0 and libtk40.so.1.0, and added "74" and "40" to the -l lines of the new ports...then it was pointed out to me that since the new ports overwrite tcl.h and tk.h, we can't compile the old stuff unless we revert the headers back. Ack. We can change the headers to tcl74.h and tk40.h and go playing the same trick, but I don't think that's the right solution. For one thing, it's ugly. Another is that new ports will come out for tcl-7.4 and tk-4.0, and we don't want to keep fixing them forever, as they would all like to include tk.h and link against -ltk. This has to stop sometime. Note that with the libtcl.so.7.4 and libtk.so.4.0 scheme, old programs will still run, it's just that you can't compile them anymore with the newer versions sitting around. One "solution" is to admit that this is not going to work and put a big banner in red, green and purple that funny things will happen if you try to compile the old ports with the new stuff instaled. I don't think many people keep going back and forth compiling stuff, for package building, I can live with a few top-down "make" runs with DUDS and stuff. Any ideas? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 02:23:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA06609 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:23:53 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA06598 ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:23:37 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA01034; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:23:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:23:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199509290923.CAA01034@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jmz@freebsd.org CC: ports@freebsd.org Subject: viewfax doesn't package From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It's because USE_IMAKE implies PREFIX=/usr/X11R6 (or whatever X11BASE is set to). I took a look into the source, this Imakefile is evil, it has something like BINDIR = /usr/local/bin /* where you want the binary installed */ MANDIR = /usr/local/man/man1 /* where you want the man file installed */ HELPDIR = /usr/local/lib /* where you want the help file installed */ Do you think we can delete BINDIR, MANDIR and set HELPDIR to ${USRLIBDIR}/X11 or something? Imakefiles have no business playing with the directory definitions, IMO. Those things are well-defined in ${X11BASE}/X11/config/*. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 03:19:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA09876 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 03:19:39 -0700 Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA09678 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 03:13:44 -0700 Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA16957; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:11:27 +0100 From: Thomas Gellekum Message-Id: <199509291011.LAA16957@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: tcl-7.4 / tk-4.0 To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:11:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509290905.CAA00926@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami" at Sep 29, 95 02:05:17 am Organization: Institut f. Hochfrequenztechnik, RWTH Aachen X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1420 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Satoshi Asami wrote: > So I renamed them to libtcl74.so.1.0 > and libtk40.so.1.0, and added "74" and "40" to the -l lines of the new > ports...then it was pointed out to me that since the new ports > overwrite tcl.h and tk.h, we can't compile the old stuff unless we > revert the headers back. Ack. Better rename the old headers. The package writers will eventually upgrade to the newer Tcl/Tk versions. Maybe it's easier to fix the ports using 7.3/3.6 to include tcl73.h and tk36.h and link against libtcl73.so.1.0/libtk36.so.1.0 and wait for the upgrade. > Note that with the libtcl.so.7.4 and libtk.so.4.0 scheme, old programs > will still run, it's just that you can't compile them anymore with the > newer versions sitting around. Some ports could be replaced with their latest version which already uses 7.4/4.0 (e. g., ical). This is not a problem for tcl-only scripts (like tksol) because the wish interpreters are named differently by default. > One "solution" is to admit that this is not going to work and put a > big banner in red, green and purple that funny things will happen if > you try to compile the old ports with the new stuff instaled. I don't > think many people keep going back and forth compiling stuff, for > package building, I can live with a few top-down "make" runs with DUDS > and stuff. What is DUDS? BTW, tclX7.4 and BLT1.8 are out, which use the newer Tcl/Tk versions. tg From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 04:23:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA13282 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:23:12 -0700 Received: from alpha.netcraft.co.uk (alpha.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA13277 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:23:06 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by alpha.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA08202 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:22:18 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199509291122.MAA08202@alpha.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: xpm To: ports@FreeBSD.org (ports) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:22:18 +0100 (BST) Reply-to: paul@netcraft.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 249 Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The script in xpm isn't needed and in fact breaks the build. Simply removing it solves the problem. -- Paul Richards, Netcraft Ltd. Internet: paul@netcraft.co.uk, http://www.netcraft.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1225 447500 (work) From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 06:30:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA15858 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:30:49 -0700 Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA15851 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:30:44 -0700 Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02036; Fri, 29 Sep 95 14:30:07 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 14:30:07 +0100 Message-Id: <9509291330.AA02036@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509290923.CAA01034@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> (asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: viewfax doesn't package X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Satoshi Asami writes: > It's because USE_IMAKE implies PREFIX=/usr/X11R6 (or whatever X11BASE > is set to). make package PREFIX=/usr/local works > I took a look into the source, this Imakefile is evil, it has > something like > BINDIR = /usr/local/bin /* where you want the binary installed */ > MANDIR = /usr/local/man/man1 /* where you want the man file installed */ > HELPDIR = /usr/local/lib /* where you want the help file installed */ > Do you think we can delete BINDIR, MANDIR and set HELPDIR to > ${USRLIBDIR}/X11 or something? I did not change this because I prefer to install everything in /usr/local than in /usr/X11R6 :-) > Imakefiles have no business playing with the directory definitions, > IMO. Those things are well-defined in ${X11BASE}/X11/config/*. The problem with the ports using Imake is that there is no mechanism in bsd.port.mk to install them in another location than $X11BASE. I should have written a configure script to set BINDIR, MANDIR and HELPDIR: echo "BINDIR=$PREFIX/bin" >> $WRKSRC/Imakefile etc... but I am lazy those days :-) > Satoshi _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 06:56:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA16500 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:56:33 -0700 Received: from spot.lodgenet.com (lodgenet.iw.net [204.157.148.88]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA16383 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:55:08 -0700 Received: from tserv.lodgenet.com (root@tserv.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.10]) by spot.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA11936; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:51:01 -0500 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by tserv.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA03618; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:51:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA29235; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:57:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199509291357.IAA29235@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: Thomas Gellekum cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcl-7.4 / tk-4.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:11:26 BST." <199509291011.LAA16957@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:57:39 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Better rename the old headers. The package writers will eventually > upgrade to the newer Tcl/Tk versions. Maybe it's easier to fix > the ports using 7.3/3.6 to include tcl73.h and tk36.h and link > against libtcl73.so.1.0/libtk36.so.1.0 and wait for the upgrade. > I agree with that. But it would mean breaking ports which work with the old stuf. > > Note that with the libtcl.so.7.4 and libtk.so.4.0 scheme, old programs > > will still run, it's just that you can't compile them anymore with the > > newer versions sitting around. > > Some ports could be replaced with their latest version which already > uses 7.4/4.0 (e. g., ical). This is not a problem for tcl-only > scripts (like tksol) because the wish interpreters are named > differently by default. > I've got an updated port of ical which does use the new libs, but I haven't had time to proof-check and update the official port yet. eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 08:44:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA20302 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:44:29 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA20297 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:44:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA07881; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:42:18 -0700 To: Thomas Gellekum cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcl-7.4 / tk-4.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:11:26 BST." <199509291011.LAA16957@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:42:18 -0700 Message-ID: <7879.812389338@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Better rename the old headers. The package writers will eventually > upgrade to the newer Tcl/Tk versions. Maybe it's easier to fix > the ports using 7.3/3.6 to include tcl73.h and tk36.h and link > against libtcl73.so.1.0/libtk36.so.1.0 and wait for the upgrade. I think this sets a very bad precedent and sets the ports team up for a LOT of extra work! Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 09:57:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA23337 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:57:46 -0700 Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA23329 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:57:41 -0700 Received: by main.statsci.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0syijx-000r3sC; Fri, 29 Sep 95 09:56 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcl-7.4 / tk-4.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:05:17 -0700." <199509290905.CAA00926@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:56:46 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) wrote: > Any ideas? I haven't actually done this, so I don't know how workable it is, but... What about just building them with a different --prefix setting? configure --prefix=/usr/local/tcl7.4 Or are things more complicated than that when dealing with packages? That would probably be my first attempt at resolving the problem if I were building these things on my own systems. Then you put in a /usr/local/tcl that is a symlink to whatever you want the default to be. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 10:45:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA24582 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:45:36 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA24577 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:45:31 -0700 Received: from adder.eng.umd.edu (adder.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.110]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13240; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by adder.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id NAA12212; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:45:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:44:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Thomas Gellekum cc: Satoshi Asami , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcl-7.4 / tk-4.0 In-Reply-To: <199509291011.LAA16957@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Thomas Gellekum wrote: > Satoshi Asami wrote: > > So I renamed them to libtcl74.so.1.0 > > and libtk40.so.1.0, and added "74" and "40" to the -l lines of the new > > ports...then it was pointed out to me that since the new ports > > overwrite tcl.h and tk.h, we can't compile the old stuff unless we > > revert the headers back. Ack. > > Better rename the old headers. The package writers will eventually > upgrade to the newer Tcl/Tk versions. Maybe it's easier to fix > the ports using 7.3/3.6 to include tcl73.h and tk36.h and link > against libtcl73.so.1.0/libtk36.so.1.0 and wait for the upgrade. Any solution should allow for immediate change, because the _next_ versions of tcl/tk, 7.5 and 4.1, are already in beta. It's starting to sound like stability won't be reached for awhile. > > > Note that with the libtcl.so.7.4 and libtk.so.4.0 scheme, old programs > > will still run, it's just that you can't compile them anymore with the > > newer versions sitting around. > > Some ports could be replaced with their latest version which already > uses 7.4/4.0 (e. g., ical). This is not a problem for tcl-only > scripts (like tksol) because the wish interpreters are named > differently by default. > > > One "solution" is to admit that this is not going to work and put a > > big banner in red, green and purple that funny things will happen if > > you try to compile the old ports with the new stuff instaled. I don't > > think many people keep going back and forth compiling stuff, for > > package building, I can live with a few top-down "make" runs with DUDS > > and stuff. > > What is DUDS? > > BTW, tclX7.4 and BLT1.8 are out, which use the newer Tcl/Tk versions. > > tg > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 12:01:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA27469 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:01:26 -0700 Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (root@deep-thought.demos.su [192.91.186.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA27444 ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:00:55 -0700 Received: by deep-thought.demos.su id WAA17314; (8.6.12/D) Fri, 29 Sep 1995 22:00:34 +0300 To: ports@freebsd.org, pst@freebsd.org Message-ID: Organization: DEMOS Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 22:00:34 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: -O2 apache error, please fix Lines: 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 404 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk You need to add -fno-strength-reduce to -O2 in apache compilation flag as workaround of famous gcc i386 bug... -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 12:01:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA27503 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:01:44 -0700 Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (root@deep-thought.demos.su [192.91.186.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA27487 ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:01:36 -0700 Received: by deep-thought.demos.su id VAA17246; (8.6.12/D) Fri, 29 Sep 1995 21:59:08 +0300 To: ports@freebsd.org, pst@freebsd.org Message-ID: Organization: DEMOS Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 21:59:06 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Apache install error, please fix. Lines: 29 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1092 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Checksums OK. ===> Installing for apache-0.8.14 mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server mkdir -p /usr/local/www/data mkdir -p /usr/local/www/icons mkdir -p /usr/local/www/cgi-bin mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server/conf mkdir -p /usr/local/www/server/logs install -c -s -m 755 -o root src/httpd /usr/local/sbin install -c -m 644 -o nobody icons/* /usr/local/www/icons for file in httpd.conf srm.conf access.conf mime.types ; do if [ -f /usr/local/www/server/conf/$file ] ; then install -c -m 644 -o bin -g bin conf/$file-dist /usr/local/www/server/conf ; else install -c -m 644 -o bin -g bin conf/$file-dist /usr/local/www/server/conf/$file ; fi ; done install: conf/mime.types-dist: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 13:14:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA00475 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:14:53 -0700 Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA00469 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:14:43 -0700 Received: by main.statsci.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sylpJ-000r3uC; Fri, 29 Sep 95 13:14 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: where is rdist-6.1.0 port? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:14:30 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi- I got a rdist-6.1.0.tgz package, but it is a -current package and I'm not running -current, so I'd like to rebuild it. I went poking around in the ports/ directory and couldn't find rdist in there. So, where would I find the sources on which the rdist-6.1.0 package is based? A pointer to RTFM or FAQ on the structure of packages/ & ports/ directory might be appropriate here... Thanx, Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 14:09:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA03048 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 14:09:33 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA03043 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 14:09:29 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA26387; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 14:08:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 14:08:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199509292108.OAA26387@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9509291330.AA02036@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> (message from Jean-Marc Zucconi on Fri, 29 Sep 95 14:30:07 +0100) Subject: Re: viewfax doesn't package From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * make package PREFIX=/usr/local works Of course, but that means automatic package generation from the parent dir will no longer work! ;) And I don't think we should put PREFIX=/usr/local in the Makefile either, that would hard-code the port into /usr/local. * > Do you think we can delete BINDIR, MANDIR and set HELPDIR to * > ${USRLIBDIR}/X11 or something? * * I did not change this because I prefer to install everything in * /usr/local than in /usr/X11R6 :-) Well, I understand your preference, but the whole imake paradigm is designed to put things in one place, like it or not. * The problem with the ports using Imake is that there is no mechanism * in bsd.port.mk to install them in another location than $X11BASE. That's a "feature". Ports with Imakefiles are usually happy with $X11BASE. Let's not bend ourselves backwards to accomodate authors who do things they are not supposed to, ok? :) * I * should have written a configure script to set BINDIR, MANDIR and * HELPDIR: * echo "BINDIR=$PREFIX/bin" >> $WRKSRC/Imakefile * etc... * but I am lazy those days :-) You can just change them like I said, and you don't even need that. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 14:30:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA03707 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 14:30:37 -0700 Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA03692 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 14:30:14 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA00707; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 17:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id RAA10108; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 17:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 17:29:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Satoshi Asami cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcl-7.4 / tk-4.0 In-Reply-To: <199509290905.CAA00926@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > What should we do with these little beasts? I first let them generate > shared libtcl.so.7.4 and libtk.so.4.0, and then I found out that old > tcl/tk programs don't compile anymore (because ld will pick up the > newer versions automatically). So I renamed them to libtcl74.so.1.0 > and libtk40.so.1.0, and added "74" and "40" to the -l lines of the new > ports...then it was pointed out to me that since the new ports > overwrite tcl.h and tk.h, we can't compile the old stuff unless we > revert the headers back. Ack. > > We can change the headers to tcl74.h and tk40.h and go playing the > same trick, but I don't think that's the right solution. For one > thing, it's ugly. Another is that new ports will come out for tcl-7.4 > and tk-4.0, and we don't want to keep fixing them forever, as they > would all like to include tk.h and link against -ltk. This has to > stop sometime. > > Note that with the libtcl.so.7.4 and libtk.so.4.0 scheme, old programs > will still run, it's just that you can't compile them anymore with the > newer versions sitting around. > > One "solution" is to admit that this is not going to work and put a > big banner in red, green and purple that funny things will happen if > you try to compile the old ports with the new stuff instaled. I don't > think many people keep going back and forth compiling stuff, for > package building, I can live with a few top-down "make" runs with DUDS > and stuff. I vote for the last solution. That way, when each of us decides that they want to upgrade to a newer tcl version (as we all most likely will sooner or later), all the software is in the right place. I think I'll also post a complaint to the tcl newsgroup about how hard it is to live with the instability, without some allowance being made in the build strategy. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 17:15:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA08835 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 17:15:13 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA08830 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 17:15:11 -0700 Received: from greatdane.cisco.com (greatdane.cisco.com [171.69.1.141]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA08402 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 17:14:47 -0700 Received: (chein@localhost) by greatdane.cisco.com (8.6.8+c/8.6.5) id RAA20835; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 17:13:12 -0700 From: Chuck Hein Message-Id: <199509300013.RAA20835@greatdane.cisco.com> Subject: problems building Wine-95.06.06 To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 17:13:11 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems building ports/emulators/wine with FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE. Is anyone else having such problems ? chein-en-pc1# make >> No MD5 checksum file. ===> Extracting for Wine-95.06.06 ===> Wine-95.06.06 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> Wine-95.06.06 depends on shared library: Xpm\.4\. - found ===> Patching for Wine-95.06.06 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for Wine-95.06.06 ===> Configuring for Wine-95.06.06 Read the RELEASE-NOTES for an explanation of the various flags Build Wine as emulator or library (E/L) [E]? Language (En/De/No) [En]? Malloc debugging [N]? Global configfile name [/usr/local/etc/wine.conf]? Do you want to make a config file now (Y/N) [N]? Creating Makefiles. This may take a while. imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config In file included from ./Imakefile:1, from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl:1064, from Imakefile.c:3: ./autoconf.h:5: warning: `AutoDefines' redefined /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Motif.tmpl:394: warning: this is the location of the previous definition make Makefiles making Makefiles in controls... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in rc... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in loader... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in misc... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in multimedia... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in objects... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in windows... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in tools... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in debugger... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in if1632... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in memory... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. making Makefiles in miscemu... Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. gmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefiles'. Stop. make includes including in ./controls... gmake: *** No rule to make target `includes'. Stop. *** Error code 2 Stop. WARNING: The exit status of the command 'xmkmf -a' indicates an error. Maybe the Wine directory is incomplete, or Imake (see 'man xmkmf imake') is incorrectly configured? In the latter case, it might be easiest to reinstall X11 to get a new copy of Imake. Configure finished. Do 'make' to compile Wine. ===> Building for Wine-95.06.06 making all in ./controls... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/controls' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/controls' making all in ./rc... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/rc' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/rc' making all in ./loader... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/loader' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/loader' making all in ./misc... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/misc' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/misc' making all in ./multimedia... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/multimedia' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/multimedia' making all in ./objects... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/objects' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/objects' making all in ./windows... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/windows' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/windows' making all in ./tools... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/tools' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/tools' making all in ./debugger... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/debugger' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/debugger' making all in ./if1632... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/if1632' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/if1632' making all in ./memory... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/memory' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/memory' making all in ./miscemu... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/miscemu' gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/emulators/wine/work/wine950706/miscemu' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- Thanks, C.Hein "Time is just one damn thing after another" -- PBS/Nova From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 20:11:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA15195 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:11:31 -0700 Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA15190 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:11:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA14187; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:10:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199509300310.UAA14187@precipice.shockwave.com> To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache install error, please fix. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 1995 21:59:06 +0300." Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:10:47 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Already fixed. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 20:11:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA15228 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:11:57 -0700 Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA15209 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:11:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA14198; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:11:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199509300311.UAA14198@precipice.shockwave.com> To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -O2 apache error, please fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 1995 22:00:34 +0300." Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 20:11:09 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: -O2 apache error, please fix You need to add -fno-strength-reduce to -O2 in apache compilation flag as workaround of famous gcc i386 bug... Could you describe? I have not experienced the bug at all. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Sep 29 21:11:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA16254 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 21:11:01 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA16247 for ports; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 21:10:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 21:10:59 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199509300410.VAA16247@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ports Subject: xearth 1.0 is out Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And drops in simply by blowing away the patches directory and pre-patch rule in the Makefile. Pros: Supports >8bit displays, making it finally possible for me to run xearth (lots of us running in 24 bit all the time now). Various bugs fixed. Cons: Invalidates all of Satoshi's fine work with the -freebsd option. :( I suppose if someone were willing to re-hack in the changes? :-) Otherwise, it would be kinda nice to see the port updated. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Sep 30 02:33:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA23766 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:33:59 -0700 Received: from Wit401402.student.utwente.nl (Wit401402.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA23761 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:33:54 -0700 Received: (from alain@localhost) by Wit401402.student.utwente.nl (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA11827; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 10:33:49 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 10:33:49 +0100 (MET) From: Alain Kalker Reply-To: A.C.P.M.Kalker@student.utwente.nl To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , ports@freebsd.org Subject: tclX build problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk (Oops, Jordan... It seems I just happen to pick on you while trying to be a nice guy :-) (Like with the docs...) ) When trying to build lang/tclX (needed by net/scotty), I get the following error message: ... ===> Building for tclX-7.3b mkdir tclmaster 2>/dev/null; exit 0 mkdir tclmaster/lib 2>/dev/null; exit 0 mkdir tclmaster/include 2>/dev/null; exit 0 mkdir tclmaster/bin 2>/dev/null; exit 0 mkdir tclmaster/src 2>/dev/null; exit 0 rm -f tclmaster/lib/libtcl.a cp /usr/ports/lang/tcl/work/tcl7.3/../tcl7.3/libtcl.a tclmaster/lib/libtcl.a cp: /usr/ports/lang/tcl/work/tcl7.3/../tcl7.3/libtcl.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. It seems that it is trying to copy these files straight from the work directory of tcl.. Hmmm what if someone like me has zapped it (make clean) to get some dearly needed H/D space? Well, because I installed tcl, I have the library in /usr/local/lib. Or is this copy needed because of the tcl/tk succession wars? Any comments? --- Alain From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Sep 30 17:07:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA23877 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:07:51 -0700 Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (root@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA23871 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:07:43 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (sendmail) id DAA13141 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 03:24:28 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: 1 Oct 1995 00:12:06 +0800 From: peter@haywire.dialix.com (Peter Wemm) Message-ID: <44jq8m$2jr$1@haywire.DIALix.COM> Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Australia. References: <199509300410.VAA16247@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: xearth 1.0 is out Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jkh@freefall.freebsd.org (Jordan K. Hubbard) writes: >And drops in simply by blowing away the patches directory and >pre-patch rule in the Makefile. >Pros: Supports >8bit displays, making it finally possible for me to run > xearth (lots of us running in 24 bit all the time now). > Various bugs fixed. >Cons: Invalidates all of Satoshi's fine work with the -freebsd option. :( >I suppose if someone were willing to re-hack in the changes? :-) >Otherwise, it would be kinda nice to see the port updated. > Jordan I'll do it, but only if I get to be on the map too.. :-) Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Sep 30 20:27:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA29625 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 20:27:05 -0700 Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA29620 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 20:27:01 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id XAA14981 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 23:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id XAA10766; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 23:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 23:26:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: ports/games/xonix Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This has been moved to version 1.4, right? I can't get this from either of the sources in the makefile, and archie only finds 1.2 version sources. Maybe it should be rolled back until it's more generally available? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------