From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Sep 24 00:39:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA09325 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 00:39:14 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA09315 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 00:39:03 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA07902; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:38:32 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA07883; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:38:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199509240738.JAA07883@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm), mark@grondar.za, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, CVS-commiters@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-games@freefall.freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/x11/xneko xneko.c Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:38:28 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This has blown up out of proportion. I am not trying to get rid of games. I was wondering why there were X programs in our non-X distribution, and there was a suggestion that those two ONLY should go to ports. M > > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 1995, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > * > Modified: games/x11/xneko xneko.c > > > > > > > > * Just out of interest: What are X programs doing in the FreeBSD distr ibutio > > > n? > > > > * should they not be in ports? > > > > > > > > Apparently (according to the cvs logs), they came with the 4.4-Lite > > > > tape. But I agree with you, it doesn't make much sense to have these > > > > in the main source tree when we don't have X in there! ;) > > > > > > > > And if you just want a cute demo...well, xneko maybe, but xroach is > > > > nothing short of "disgusting". :< > > > > > > I _love_ xroach! I have got some very satisfying (female) screams from > > > running it! :-> :-> :-> > > > > Likewise.. IMHO, *all* of the games should go to "ports". :-) > > And that is YO, CSRG saw it fit to put the games in BSD, this issue > seems to come up about 4 months after new folks come on board. The games > have been part of BSD for a very long time. Removing them moves the > base away from what people expect when you say BSD derived. > > > > I propose to move them to ports. > > > > > > Seconded. > > I am opposed to removing any functionality provided in BSD 4.4 Lite or Lite > 2. > > > The only problem is that there's no real mechanism for actually providing > > a complete "kit", including packaging, source and the works. The only > > way we can make a port out of it, is to make a tar.gz of the source as it > > currently stands and then put it on freefall's ftp area. > > If you don't like the games there has already been complete mechanisms > put in place so you don't have to have them. src tree builds without > them, you can install the binary releases without them. Leave it alone > please. > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grumble.grondar.za for PGP key