From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 00:47:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA09283 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 00:47:28 -0700 Received: from aconcagua.ee.umn.edu (aconcagua.ee.umn.edu [128.101.146.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA09277 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 00:47:27 -0700 Received: (from cattelan@localhost) by aconcagua.ee.umn.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA27948; Sun, 7 May 1995 02:47:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 02:47:03 -0500 From: Russell Cattelan Message-Id: <199505070747.CAA27948@aconcagua.ee.umn.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Adaptec 294x boot disk Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Simple question: I noticed in the FAQ that the Adaptec 2940 is only supported in the "current" release... so where do I find a "current" boot floppy image that has the 2940 support? -- Russell Cattelan <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> He had that rare weird electricity about him -- that extremely wild and heavy presence that you only see in a person who has abandoned all hope of ever behaving "normally." -- Hunter S. Thompson, "Fear and Loathing '72" <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 01:12:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA09599 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:12:18 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA09592 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:12:08 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA05653; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:06:46 +0800 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 16:06:45 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: David Greenman cc: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: Heavy HTTPD serving on 2.0-950412 In-Reply-To: <199505060440.VAA00157@corbin.Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 1995, David Greenman wrote: > > 1024 probably isn't enough, then. I'd recommend increasing it to 1500. Note > that this will consume 6MB of memory. Yow, I'll keep that in mind. When I run a netstat -m, I get: 112 mbufs in use: 2 mbufs allocated to data 20 mbufs allocated to packet headers 79 mbufs allocated to protocol control blocks 11 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 1/644 mbuf clusters in use 1302 Kbytes allocated to network (1% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines i.e., 644 clusters were in use at any one time during the test (I haven't rebooted since then). Is one mbuf needed per network connection, in general? Netstat showed around 500 open tcp connections during the test (most in TIME_WAIT, mind you). -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 01:16:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA09826 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:16:12 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA09802 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:16:10 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA00648; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:19:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA00504; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:16:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199505070816.BAA00504@corbin.Root.COM> To: Brian Tao cc: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: Heavy HTTPD serving on 2.0-950412 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 May 95 16:06:45 +0800." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 07 May 1995 01:14:13 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >haven't rebooted since then). Is one mbuf needed per network connection, >in general? Netstat showed around 500 open tcp connections during the >test (most in TIME_WAIT, mind you). One mbuf, but probably not an mbuf cluster...the real answer is I don't know - it depends on whatever the network code decides to allocate, and this may not even be very consistent. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 01:35:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA10493 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:35:03 -0700 Received: from frodi.cs.uop.edu (frodi.cs.uop.edu [138.9.200.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA10481 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:35:00 -0700 Received: from uop.cs.uop.edu by frodi.cs.uop.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA13753; Sun, 7 May 1995 01:34:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 01:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tiggie To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem with installing XFree86-3.1.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am currently running FreeBSD SNAP<041295?> with XFree86-3.1.1. I checked into my /dev directory and did not find the tty00 device . Then I did the command "dmesg|grep sio" and the result were that sio0 and sio1 existed. I also know my mouse is connested to com1 when in DOS. Doesn't that mean sio0 is the device on my mouse? Next I typed "sh /dev/MAKEDEV tty00", the command ran with no errors, but the device tty00 did not appear with the "ls" command. Is this a command problem and is listed in a faq, would you please direct me to it. I have already read the README file on XFree86 3.1.1. Many thanks for your help. I am trying to configure the mouse, s3 chip video card, and screen frequencies, and also get X running. Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 04:15:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA16179 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 04:15:57 -0700 Received: from sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.47]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16173 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 04:15:55 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id HAA17779; Sun, 7 May 1995 07:15:28 -0400 Received: (from gene@localhost) by starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA25809; Sun, 7 May 1995 07:15:03 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 07:15:03 -0400 From: Gene Stark Message-Id: <199505071115.HAA25809@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> To: ns.moran.com!cihat@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: ns.moran.com!cihat@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu's message of Sun, 7 May 1995 03:14:08 -0400 Subject: X11 not working! Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I am very new to FREEBSD, I just installed the bin series. I read all the >docs on X11R6 but for some reason none of the executable relating to X work. > >I first installed bin series from floppies and then installed X from my DOS >partition. It installed fine withous any error msg's. What's going on here? >I thought the generic kernel is supposed to support X. "It doesn't work" is not a useful bug report. If you want someone to help you, it would be a good idea to supply more detailed information. For example, exactly what command did you use to try to start X and what error message did you receive? - Gene Stark From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 04:22:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA16595 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 04:22:40 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16589 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 04:22:37 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA08518; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:22:50 +0800 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:22:45 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: Boot Manager with 3 OS/s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 1995, Daniel Baker wrote: > > MS-DOS > OS/2 > and FreeBSD? Use OS/2's fdisk to write the boot manager to your disk. It gives you a nicer display than FreeBSD's (menu selection, descriptive name of each partition, etc.). It can handle more than 2 OS's, whereas I've never tried FreeBSD's with more than two. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 04:34:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA16996 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 04:34:17 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16984 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 04:34:06 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA08647; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:33:06 +0800 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:32:57 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Howard Lew cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: httpd 1.3 setup problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 1995, Howard Lew wrote: > > Hi! I'm having a problem compiling NCSA's httpd 1.3. It chokes and > stops with the following errors. Can anyone help me? Look for a line that begins with EXTRA_LIBS= in the Makefile and change it to: EXTRA_LIBS= -lcrypt BTW, I have the pre-forking version of NCSA httpd 1.4 running on my FreeBSD 2.0 system. Using a mixture of clients from both near (on Ethernet) and far (across the ocean) pounding on the server for 10 hours, I came up with a figure of 675000+ requests per day on a 486DX4/100, with the load average hovering around 0.60 the whole time. :) -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 04:41:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA17153 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 04:41:11 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA17147 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 04:41:01 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA08785; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:40:30 +0800 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:40:28 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Tiggie cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem with installing XFree86-3.1.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 May 1995, Tiggie wrote: > > I am currently running FreeBSD SNAP<041295?> with XFree86-3.1.1. I > checked into my /dev directory and did not find the tty00 device an example of what it should be>. Then I did the command "dmesg|grep > sio" and the result were that sio0 and sio1 existed. I also know my > mouse is connested to com1 when in DOS. Doesn't that mean sio0 is the > device on my mouse? Next I typed "sh /dev/MAKEDEV tty00", the command > ran with no errors, but the device tty00 did not appear with the "ls" > command. Use /dev/ttyd0 for your mouse instead. I think /dev/tty00 disappeared a few snapshots ago. If /dev/ttyd0 isn't there for some reason, type "sh /dev/MAKEDEV tty0". > Is this a command problem and is listed in a faq, would you please direct > me to it. I have already read the README file on XFree86 3.1.1. I want to know why MAKEDEV can't simply take a name argument, then create that device. "sh /dev/MAKEDEV ttyv9" makes perfect sense to me, while "sh /dev/MAKEDEV vty9" is not immediately intuitive. Don't throw out the current ones (e.g., I like how "sh /dev/MAKEDEV vty9" will make ttyv0 to ttyv8), but a "once-off" mode would be nice to have. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 06:38:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA20379 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 06:38:04 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA20373 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 06:38:02 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11838; Sun, 7 May 95 13:37:43 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA12953; Sun, 7 May 1995 09:37:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 09:37:59 -0400 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9505071337.AA12953@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA059703878; Sun, 7 May 1995 07:37:58 -0600 To: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: (message from Brian Tao on Sun, 7 May 1995 19:22:45 +0800 (CST)) Subject: Re: Boot Manager with 3 OS/s Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Brian" == Brian Tao writes: Brian> Use OS/2's fdisk to write the boot manager to your Brian> disk. It gives you a nicer display than FreeBSD's (menu Brian> selection, descriptive name of each partition, etc.). It Brian> can handle more than 2 OS's, whereas I've never tried Brian> FreeBSD's with more than two. I've got a system with MS-DOS, OS/2, and FreeBSD ... using FreeBSD's bootmugger. And it works. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA TASK: Shoot yourself in the foot. In APL: You shoot yourself in the foot, then spend all day figuring out how to do it in fewer characters. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 06:40:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA20456 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 06:40:11 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA20448 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 06:40:02 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA09537; Sun, 7 May 1995 21:40:02 +0800 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 21:39:59 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Sean Kelly cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Boot Manager with 3 OS/s In-Reply-To: <9505071337.AA12953@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 May 1995, Sean Kelly wrote: > > I've got a system with MS-DOS, OS/2, and FreeBSD ... using FreeBSD's > bootmugger. > > And it works. Hokay. I gather it just starts at F1 and works its way across the keyboard? -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 07:06:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA21211 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 07:06:57 -0700 Received: from simon.chi.il.us (simon.chi.il.us [199.245.227.17]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA21202 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 07:06:52 -0700 Received: by simon.chi.il.us (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s86yq-000NAyC; Sun, 7 May 95 09:06 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 May 95 09:06 CDT From: steve@simon.chi.il.us (Steven E. Piette) To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, bens@jhbs.com.au Subject: Re: Driver for SMC Ultra ethernet card. Cc: jeff@tenforwd.wiz.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 12:58:41 +1000 (EET) > From: Ben Seaman MIS > To: Chuck Robey > cc: Jeff Haynes , questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: Driver for SMC Ultra ethernet card. > > Hi, > The SMC elite ultra needs a patch if you are running 2.0R. I just > downloaded it and the driver is working just fine. Here is the patch > file: > > The patch Ben included and I posted to -questions is for the SMC EtherEZ. Otherwise known as the 8416. It's not needed for the Ultra or Elite series. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:29:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA27139 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 11:29:47 -0700 Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA27133 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 11:29:45 -0700 Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id OAA01151; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:29:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 14:29:43 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199505071829.OAA01151@sed.cs.fsu.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD-current Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear All!!! Finally, I did 'make world' for the current FreeBSD sources & 'recompile the kernel' based upon FreeBSD current!!. Now I can safely reboot!!! First of all, I deeply thanks to all who helped me last night when I got the 'Fatal error during 'make world'. Without your invaluable help, I belive that I should have reinstalled the system using the CDROM. Actually this is my first experience to upgrade. I did not know it took me more than 5-6 hours to 'make world'. I have not sleeped much last night. Frankly speaking, it was horrible experience (imagine after 4 hours of make, but got the abrupt Fatal Error.) But I did it!! Now I really feel like I am the real client of FreeBSD. All the pain I had for last 2-3 days for upgrading turns out te be pure satisfaction!!!! Thanks all again!! --Uh ps. One more question. Since I did 'make world' and built new kernel', is it safe enough to issue 'make clear' & 'make cleardir' at the /usr/src? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 12:08:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA28259 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 12:08:07 -0700 Received: from jazz.epas.utoronto.ca (root@jazz.epas.utoronto.ca [128.100.160.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA28253 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 12:08:06 -0700 Received: from blues.epas.utoronto.ca by jazz.epas.utoronto.ca via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id PAA01888; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:07:14 -0400 Received: by blues.epas.utoronto.ca (950215.SGI.8.6.10/930416.SGI) id PAA21816; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:07:13 -0400 From: Adam Iles Message-Id: <199505071907.PAA21816@blues.epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: Netscape on 2.0 ? To: lmcsato@LMC.Ericsson.SE (Samy Touati) Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 15:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505052046.QAA08256@haddock.lmc.ericsson.se> from "Samy Touati" at May 5, 95 04:46:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 795 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I recently installed FreeBSD 2.0 (SNAP: 120495), and I was wondering if > Netscape 1.1N runs on this version. I'm running Netscape 1.1N on 2.0.950412-SNAP and XFree86 3.1.1, and it's been working fine so far. What I did (from memory, so undoubtedly I'm forgetting something) is: link /usr/X11R6 to /usr/X11 cd /usr ; ln -s X11R6 X11 make an nls directory mkdir /usr/X11/lib/X11/nls copy the contents of the Netscape nls directory to the new one cp nls/* /usr/X11/lib/X11/nls copy the Netscape.ad file to /usr/X11/lib/X11/app-defaults cp Netscape.ad /usr/X11/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape copy the XKeysymDB file to /usr/X11/lib/X11 cp XKeysymDB /usr/X11/lib/X11 > Thanks > > Samy > lmcsato@lmc.ericsson.se -- Adam Iles -- EPAS Computing. adam@epas.utoronto.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:16:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA00992 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:16:21 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00986 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:16:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA05066 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 1995 17:17:29 -0400 Received: from freefall.cdrom.com (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA02920 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:16:00 -0400 Received: (from httpd@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA29584 ; Sun, 7 May 1995 13:14:45 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 13:14:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199505072014.NAA29584@freefall.cdrom.com> Subject: Information on viability of FreeBSD as an OS for ISP From: tal@jasmine.psyber.com (WWW Form) To: www@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The machine this came from was: jasmine.psyber.com I would be intrested in getting information on the viability of Free BSD as an OS for an ISP site. I think it would also be of benefit to others If some information on this topic was added to the FreeBSD home page and addressed such issues as a) Stability(in relation to a commercial OS). b) support for hardware protocols like ISDN, token ring, ethernet, fast ethernet ect. c)support for serial protocols like PPP and SLIP/CSLIP d) list of providers who use FreeBSD, List of large sites that use FreeBSD. Thanks, Tal(tal@jasmine.psyber.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:03:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA03958 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:03:03 -0700 Received: from nietzsche (annex1s30.urc.tue.nl [131.155.12.40]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA03950 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:03:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nietzsche (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA26712 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 23:11:02 +0100 Message-Id: <199505072211.XAA26712@nietzsche> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anyone linked with Hungry ViewKit ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 May 1995 16:25:35 EDT." <199505062025.QAA00175@bonkers> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 May 1995 23:11:02 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the same problem. I also have a 2.0 system. I tried this on a -current system, at least I think it is -current, and the same thing happened. (Different program, but same kind of error messages) (btw, the program is toogl, which converts gl programs to opengl) Will this be fixed in 2.0.5? Regards, Marc. Marc van Kempen wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl He's dead Jim ..., kick him if you don't believe me. Marc van Kempen wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl He's dead Jim ..., kick him if you don't believe me. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:03:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA03988 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:03:42 -0700 Received: from melbourne.DIALix.oz.au (aseuucp@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au [192.203.228.98]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA03982 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:03:39 -0700 Received: from ase.UUCP (aseuucp@localhost) by melbourne.DIALix.oz.au (8.6.12/8.6.12/DIALix) with UUCP id IAA15557 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 May 1995 08:03:33 +1000 Received: by ase.DIALix.oz.au (UUPC/extended 1.11z); Sun, 07 May 1995 09:42:36 PDT Date: Sun, 07 May 1995 09:42:36 PDT From: "Simon Harris" Message-ID: <2fad068d.ase@ase.DIALix.oz.au> Organization: Australian Systems Engineering Pty. Ltd. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Installing 2.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.0 and I'm having a strange problem. When booting from the BOOT disk the initialisation checks the fd0 (1.44M) floppy drive. When this has finished, the drive makes a rather loud clunk and from then on the drive is unuseable until I either warm-boot twice or I cold boot. Any suggestions? I'm going to try different 1.44M drives today. I have a CD-ROM drive attached to a Sound Blaster 16 card, can I access the CD-ROM with this, as I haven't been able to boot yet I'm not sure. If not can I use a 3rd party CD-ROM Interface card or do I need a real SCSI card? Thanks, Simon. -- Simon Harris Telephone: 61-3-419-4200 simon@ase.DIALix.oz.au Facsimile: 61-3-419-5848 Address: Suite 3, 65 Oxford Street COLLINGWOOD, VIC 3066 AUSTRALIA From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:49:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA05168 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:49:16 -0700 Received: from uuneo.neosoft.com (mailman@uuneo.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA05162 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:49:12 -0700 Received: (from mailman@localhost) by uuneo.neosoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id RAA04448; Sun, 7 May 1995 17:48:31 -0500 Received: from concorde.neosoft.com(198.65.161.214) by uuneo.neosoft.com via smap (V1.3) id sma004393; Sun May 7 17:47:53 1995 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 17:47:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@concorde.neosoft.com To: Sean Kelly cc: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Boot Manager with 3 OS/s In-Reply-To: <9505071337.AA12953@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 May 1995, Sean Kelly wrote: > >>>>> "Brian" == Brian Tao writes: > > Brian> Use OS/2's fdisk to write the boot manager to your > Brian> disk. It gives you a nicer display than FreeBSD's (menu > Brian> selection, descriptive name of each partition, etc.). It > Brian> can handle more than 2 OS's, whereas I've never tried > Brian> FreeBSD's with more than two. > > I've got a system with MS-DOS, OS/2, and FreeBSD ... using FreeBSD's > bootmugger. > > And it works. How did you set it up? > -- > Sean Kelly > NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA > > TASK: Shoot yourself in the foot. In APL: You shoot yourself in the > foot, then spend all day figuring out how to do it in fewer > characters. > Daniel Baker -- NeoSoft Student Assistant (UseNet, FTP & FreeNet Admin.) DBaker@NeoSoft.COM DBaker@Concorde-Mail.NeoSoft.COM ** http://www.neosoft.com/neosoft/staff/dbaker/default.html ** From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 16:41:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA06634 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:41:27 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA06627 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:41:26 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA29844; Sun, 7 May 95 17:34:51 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505072334.AA29844@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Anyone linked with Hungry ViewKit ? To: wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl (Marc van Kempen) Date: Sun, 7 May 95 17:34:50 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505072211.XAA26712@nietzsche> from "Marc van Kempen" at May 7, 95 11:11:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have the same problem. I also have a 2.0 system. I tried this > on a -current system, at least I think it is -current, and > the same thing happened. (Different program, but same kind > of error messages) (btw, the program is toogl, which converts > gl programs to opengl) Seriously, I think it is a header file problem in their ROTD, or an include omission in your program. The error is characteristic of C++ code trying to access C routines; whether this is because there are C routines that were compiled as C++ or whether it's because there are C++ routined that are incorrectly declared is unknown. That's why I offered an algorithm for determining which instead of a "fix this" last time I posted. > Will this be fixed in 2.0.5? Only if this is a toolgl or viewkit release number, since it isn't a BSD problem. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 17:40:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA11283 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 17:40:36 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA11277 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 17:40:35 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA171543632; Sun, 7 May 1995 17:40:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199505080040.AA171543632@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01185; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:40:30 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: ASUS SP3G bootup hangs at 53C810 probing To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Mon, 8 May 95 10:40:29 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, A friend is trying to install FreeBSD-2.0R from CD-ROM on a system with SP3G. Upon detection of NCR 53C810 (with the probes messages), it just hanges there indefintely, the same during DOS bootup. I presume he has the controller correctly terminated. Any idea ? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18:00:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA12432 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 18:00:13 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA12426 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 18:00:11 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13266; Mon, 8 May 95 00:58:47 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA28046; Sun, 7 May 1995 20:59:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 20:59:04 -0400 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9505080059.AA28046@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA066244743; Sun, 7 May 1995 18:59:03 -0600 To: dbaker@concorde-mail.neosoft.com Cc: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: (message from Daniel Baker on Sun, 7 May 1995 17:47:48 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: Boot Manager with 3 OS/s Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Baker writes: Daniel> On Sun, 7 May 1995, Sean Kelly wrote: >> I've got a system with MS-DOS, OS/2, and FreeBSD ... using >> FreeBSD's bootmugger. >> >> And it works. Daniel> How did you set it up? On the machine in question, I installed the OS/2 boot manager in its own slice (trust me). Then I installed MS-DOS in its own slice. Then went back to the OS/2 install and installed OS/2 in the extended slice. Then I installed FreeBSD in the final slice. On the OS/2 boot manager, only add OS/2 to the list---don't add any of the other operating systems. When I boot up, I get FreeBSD's boot mgr with three choices: dos, os/2 (the os/2 boot mgr), and FreeBSD. If I choose os/2, it goes right to booting OS/2 from the extended slice since it's the only choice on os/2's boot mugger. Good luck. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA Whenever someone knocks, answer the phone. -- One of 120 ways to annoy your roommate. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18:07:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA12984 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 18:07:48 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA12978 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 18:07:46 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyoto04818; Sun, 7 May 1995 21:07:43 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA20457 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Sun, 7 May 1995 20:07:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 20:07:42 -0500 From: Don Dunbar Message-Id: <199505080107.AA20457@ipxpress.aws.waii.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: vt100 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk how do you get vt100 emulation in kermit so you can chat on da irc?? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19:11:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA16690 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:11:05 -0700 Received: from tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA16683 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:10:59 -0700 Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12364; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:09:20 +1000 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:09:19 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: Samy Touati cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Netscape on 2.0 ? In-Reply-To: <199505052046.QAA08256@haddock.lmc.ericsson.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running Netscape 1.1N on my 950412-SNAP system without any extra problems :-) My only problem is that my keyboard mapping doesn't work unless I run Netscape from the command line. I have the appropriate setenv statements in my .cshrc file but if I run Netscape from a tvtwm menu the application doesn't get the shell environment. any ideas ?? cheers, Carey On Fri, 5 May 1995, Samy Touati wrote: > > > > I recently installed FreeBSD 2.0 (SNAP: 120495), and I was wondering if Netscape 1.1N > runs on this version. > > Thanks > > > Samy > lmcsato@lmc.ericsson.se > > ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 22:34:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA19133 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:34:26 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA19126 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:34:24 -0700 Received: from exodus.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.122] by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA25259; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:05:38 +0930 Message-Id: <199505080535.PAA25259@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Date: Mon, 08 May 95 13:18:01 EDT From: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Reply-To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) To: dbaker@Concorde-Mail.NeoSoft.COM Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Boot Manager with 3 OS/s Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 May 1995 17:47:48 -0500 (CDT) you wrote: >> Brian> Use OS/2's fdisk to write the boot manager to your >> Brian> disk. It gives you a nicer display than FreeBSD's (menu >> Brian> selection, descriptive name of each partition, etc.). It >> Brian> can handle more than 2 OS's, whereas I've never tried >> Brian> FreeBSD's with more than two. >> >> I've got a system with MS-DOS, OS/2, and FreeBSD ... using FreeBSD's >> bootmugger. >> And it works Likewise. >How did you set it up? Install the FreeBSD mugger (I like 8) when you do your FreeBSD install, or later, it doesn't matter. When you install OS/2, stick it into an extended partition, and put the OS/2 bootmanager into a partition of its own. The FreeBSD mugger will see the OS/2 bootmanager as an OS/2 partition, so you can 'boot' it. Configure the OS/2 bootmanager to boot OS/2 as the default, with a timeout of 0 seconds, and it will rip straight into it. DOS should be installed in an 'ordinary' primary partition. I'd suggest doing it DOS, OS/2, FreeBSD, reconfigure OS/2 bootmanager. # Mike Smith # Software Engineer, Genesis Software # Adelaide Radar Systems/ATRAD # +61-8-267-3039 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 22:45:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA19494 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:45:07 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA19488 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:45:06 -0700 Received: from cs.montana.edu (fubar.cs.montana.edu [153.90.192.3]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id VAA03717 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 21:54:07 -0700 Received: by cs.montana.edu; id AA25427; Sun, 7 May 1995 23:00:44 -0600 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 23:00:43 -0600 (MDT) From: "Bryan A. Young" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Install not writing to wd0? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Zeos P66 with two IDE drives. Wd0 is a Seagate ST5660A with 1057 cylinders. Wd1 is an older Teac drive with 1282 cylinders and 4 heads. I've been able to get the boot disk to finish; however, when I attempt to reboot off wd0, the FreeBSD boot manager just gives me a ? when I hit "F3" for FreeBSD. In earlier attempts, I've been able to boot, but then I get a "Panic: No Init". Wd0 is composed of a 320 meg dos primary partition, a 2mb OS2 boot manager partition, followed by a 198 meg FreeBSD partition. I have "Large Disk DOS compatibility" turned OFF and LBA mode addressing turned on, and 16-sector transfers on. If I can't boot off the hard disk using the FreeBSD boot manager, I try it again off of the floppy, and find out, to my horror, that my FreeBSD boot flag is OFF, even though I hit 0x80 for on. After the system is restarted from FreeBSD, I often get the message that drive A: is set to the wrong type. FreeBSD also says my Pentium runs at anywhere from 48 to 64 MHZ. Again, strange. Thank You, Bryan Young From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 22:46:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA19532 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:46:28 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA19522 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:46:26 -0700 Received: from nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu (nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu [129.171.102.27]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id VAA03602 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 21:16:03 -0700 Received: (from ivan@localhost) by nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA24630 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 May 1995 00:18:02 -0400 From: Ivan Lima Message-Id: <199505080418.AAA24630@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu> Subject: colorado.tape.drive To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 00:18:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1033 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I can't get the kernel to probe my Colorado tape drive. I've rebuilded the kernel several times trying different options but nothing worked. I have FreeBSD 2.0R and here's the piece of my configuration file: controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 I have also tried: controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 1 and including flags 0x1: controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio flags 0x1 irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 But nothing worked. Is there anybody, anyone that can help me with that? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, -ivan- ivan@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 22:46:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA19546 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:46:29 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA19535 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:46:28 -0700 Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com (wolfe.wimsey.com [204.191.160.4]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id VAA03577 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 21:03:56 -0700 Received: from yonet by wolfe.wimsey.com with uucp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #10) id m0s8K4S-000EjuC; Sun, 7 May 95 21:05 PDT Received: by yonet.org (0.99.950303) id AA01279; 07 May 95 21:01:16 -0800 From: unforgettable@yonet.org (Frankie Fung) Date: 07 May 15 13:16:07 -0800 Subject: About the network of FreeBSD Message-ID: <645_9505072101@yonet.org> Organization: YO!Net International BBS Network In-Reply-To: m0s66iP-000EkZC@wolfe.wimsey.com To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have problem when I have installed the FreeBSD 2.0. When I finished it and try to use my network to telnet to FreeBSD from my other computer, I cannot sucess it. When FreeBSD was loading, I saw that ed1 is my network which treated it as NE1000 (8-bit), however, my network is a NE2000 compatible network card, it is a artisoft product. The ed1 treated my network card as NE1000, and then after login to "root" and pass the password, I then type "ifconfig ed1 192.168.112.1". My IP address is set as 192.168.112, and then the FreeBSD kernel complain me as "Unforgettable kernel : Device Timeout of ed1" something like that. This message will show to me sometime. And then when I type "ifconfig ed1" to check whether it is okay or not, I find that it is okay. I see that it have a IP address to me. Then I try to TELNET at the FreeBSD side, it is okay too, just sometime it will have device timeout. After that, I try to TELNET from my other computer side, I set the DOS side as 192.168.112.240, and try to telnet 192.168.112.1, it is no response. I just want to know how to solve this problem. Best regards, Frankie Fung >From Hong Kong E-mail : unforgettable@yonet.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 22:46:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA19539 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:46:28 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA19528 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:46:27 -0700 Received: from nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu (nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu [129.171.102.27]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id VAA03598 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 21:15:45 -0700 Received: (from ivan@localhost) by nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA24622 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 May 1995 00:17:42 -0400 From: Ivan Lima Message-Id: <199505080417.AAA24622@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu> Subject: colorado.tape.drive To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 00:17:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1033 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I can't get the kernel to probe my Colorado tape drive. I've rebuilded the kernel several times trying different options but nothing worked. I have FreeBSD 2.0R and here's the piece of my configuration file: controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 I have also tried: controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 1 and including flags 0x1: controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio flags 0x1 irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 But nothing worked. Is there anybody, anyone that can help me with that? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, -ivan- ivan@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 02:42:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA24524 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 02:42:37 -0700 Received: from cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU (cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU [129.78.13.49]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA24516 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 02:42:32 -0700 Received: by cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU id ; Mon, 8 May 95 19:41:25 +1000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 May 95 19:41:25 +1000 From: Ian Wynne To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Length: 533 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone: I'm using 2.0-950210-SNAP. I can't compile the following program. #include int main() { cout << "Hello World!\n"; } If I type cc hello.cc -o hell, I get the following error message : /var/tmp/cc0001631.o: Undefined symbol `_cout' referenced from text segment /var/tmp/cc0001631.o: Undefined symbol `___ls__7ostreamPCc' referenced from text segment I've got iostream.h installed and the access permissions are -r--r--r-- Can somebody please help Best regards, Ian Wynne ianw@ee.su.oz.au From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 03:28:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA27677 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 03:28:46 -0700 Received: from cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU (cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU [129.78.13.49]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA27667 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 03:28:42 -0700 Received: by cassius.ee.su.OZ.AU id ; Mon, 8 May 95 19:38:50 +1000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 May 95 19:38:50 +1000 From: Ian Wynne To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Length: 506 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone: I'm using 2.0-950210-SNAP. I can't compile the following program. #include int main() { } If I type cc hello.cc -o hell, I get the following error message : /var/tmp/cc0001631.o: Undefined symbol `_cout' referenced from text segment /var/tmp/cc0001631.o: Undefined symbol `___ls__7ostreamPCc' referenced from text segment I've got iostream.h installed and the access permissions are -r--r--r-- Can somebody please help Best regards, Ian Wynne ianw@ee.su.oz.au From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 04:19:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA28620 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 04:19:57 -0700 Received: from uuneo.neosoft.com (mailman@uuneo.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA28614 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 04:19:55 -0700 Received: (from mailman@localhost) by uuneo.neosoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id GAA25758; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:19:51 -0500 Received: from concorde.neosoft.com(198.65.161.214) by uuneo.neosoft.com via smap (V1.3) id sma025539; Mon May 8 06:18:34 1995 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 06:18:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@concorde.neosoft.com To: Ivan Lima cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: colorado.tape.drive In-Reply-To: <199505080417.AAA24622@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 May 1995, Ivan Lima wrote: > Hi folks, > I can't get the kernel to probe my Colorado tape drive. I've > rebuilded the kernel several times trying different options but > nothing worked. I have FreeBSD 2.0R and here's the piece of my > configuration file: Get the new kernel sources: ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/systems/FreeBSD/2.0-950412-SNAP/src and compile the new kernel and bootblocks with flags 0x1 > controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr > disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 > #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 > tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 > > I have also tried: > > controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr > disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 > #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 > tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 1 > > and including flags 0x1: > > controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio flags 0x1 irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr > disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 > #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 > tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 > > But nothing worked. > > Is there anybody, anyone that can help me with that? Any > suggestions are greatly appreciated. I got it working a couple days ago with the new sources > Thanks, > > -ivan- > ivan@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu > Daniel Baker -- NeoSoft Student Assistant (UseNet, FTP & FreeNet Admin.) DBaker@NeoSoft.COM DBaker@Concorde-Mail.NeoSoft.COM ** http://www.neosoft.com/neosoft/staff/dbaker/default.html ** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 05:54:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA29519 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:54:46 -0700 Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA29513 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:54:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id FAA00449 ; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:54:41 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Ian Wynne cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 May 1995 19:41:25 +1000." Date: Mon, 08 May 1995 05:54:36 -0700 Message-ID: <444.799937676@westhill.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Ian Wynne writes: >If I type cc hello.cc -o hell, I get the following error message : You have to use either g++ hello.cc (or c++ hello.cc) or use cc hello.cc -lg++ to get the C++ function library included. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 06:13:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA29961 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:13:36 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA29955 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:13:32 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01898; Mon, 8 May 1995 16:13:02 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07765; Mon, 8 May 1995 16:11:22 +0300 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:11:22 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9505081311.AA07765@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, ianw@ee.su.oz.au X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I can't compile the following program. > > #include I guess you should use instead of (stream.h includes iostream.h also). And later link with -lg++ Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 06:19:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA00335 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:19:08 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA00329 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:19:04 -0700 From: AlexAdroog@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA141379112; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:18:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 09:18:32 -0400 Message-Id: <950508091831_110861907@aol.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Bindist Cksums problem Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have gone throuth the installation up to the point of installing the bindist files through my dos mount. I am getting a cksum mismatch when it checks the dos mount bindist cksums. I am wondering if there is a dos executab le program that i can run to check them before tying to complete the installation. Thank You, Timothy From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 07:05:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA01150 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 07:05:00 -0700 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA01143 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 07:04:55 -0700 From: AlexAdroog@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA243481862; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:04:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 10:04:22 -0400 Message-Id: <950508100243_110896888@aol.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: CKSUMS (bindist) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am getting an error when trying to installl the bindist files from a dos mount. It is stating that i have cksum problems. The error staes that it has reached an unexpected end of file (it is expecting fi - it is pointing at line 60). This is in the DO_CKSUM.SH file. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 09:00:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA03133 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:00:22 -0700 Received: from cmc.eng.comsat.com (cmc.eng.comsat.com [134.133.169.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA03127 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:00:19 -0700 Received: from cmc ([134.133.169.1]) by cmc.eng.comsat.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22921; Mon, 8 May 95 11:57:22 EDT Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:53:20 -0400 (EDT) From: MARC Giannoni Subject: Streams Drivers? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any effort to support Streams Drivers, or is this too SysV-ish. Sort of like asking a Harley Biker for a Metric Wrench! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 09:17:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA03657 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:17:54 -0700 Received: from bang.rain.com (bang.rain.com [199.2.100.61]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA03651 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:17:51 -0700 Received: (from john@localhost) by bang.rain.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id JAA25775 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:17:41 -0700 From: John Cavanaugh Message-Id: <199505081617.JAA25775@bang.rain.com> Subject: patch for running out of swap space bug in 1.1.5.1? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 09:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 420 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running 1.1.5.1 on a 486/66 with a small newsfeed and am running out of swap space every 5 days or so. I have heard rumors of there being a patch out somewhere to fix this problem but I didn't see anything when I went and looked around on cdrom.com. Is there a patch out there somewhere or should I give in and upgrade to 2.x? Thanks. -- John Cavanaugh "There can be only one." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 09:20:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA03739 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:20:19 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA03733 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:20:17 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA02532; Mon, 8 May 95 10:13:16 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505081613.AA02532@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: vt100 To: ddunbar@ipxpress.aws.waii.com (Don Dunbar) Date: Mon, 8 May 95 10:13:15 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505080107.AA20457@ipxpress.aws.waii.com> from "Don Dunbar" at May 7, 95 08:07:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > how do you get vt100 emulation in kermit so you can chat on da irc?? > Run the DOS kermit, since it is the only one with VT100 emulation in it. Run a local copy of IRC, since IRC doesn't require VT100 anyway. If you are not particular about where your VT100 comes from, run your kermit in a "screen" window, since "screen" windows emulate VT100's. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:34:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA05644 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:34:03 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA05638 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:34:01 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id NAA02798; Mon, 8 May 1995 13:33:59 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199505081733.NAA02798@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: mounting dos partition To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 13:33:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1927 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, all I upgraded my system to FreeBSD-current a couple of days ago. Everthing seems to work just fine except one thing: I can not mount dos partition anymore. So I looked at the dmesg, ----- sd0s1: type 0x6, start 32, end = 819199, size 819168 : OK sd0s2: type 0xa5, start 819200, end = 2074623, size 1255424 : OK sd0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd0: start 819200, end 2074623, size 1255424 sd0d: start 0, end 2074879, size 2074880 sd0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd0e: start 32, end 819199, size 819168 sd0s1: type 0x6, start 32, end = 819199, size 819168 : OK sd0s2: type 0xa5, start 819200, end = 2074623, size 1255424 : OK sd0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd0: start 819200, end 2074623, size 1255424 sd0d: start 0, end 2074879, size 2074880 sd0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd0e: start 32, end 819199, size 819168 sd0s1: type 0x6, start 32, end = 819199, size 819168 : OK sd0s2: type 0xa5, start 819200, end = 2074623, size 1255424 : OK sd0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd0: start 819200, end 2074623, size 1255424 sd0d: start 0, end 2074879, size 2074880 sd0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd0e: start 32, end 819199, size 819168 the /etc/fstab is as follows, ---------------------------- /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0e /dos msdos rw 1 1 /dev/sd0f /usr ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0g /usr/local ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0h /usr/users ufs rw,userquota 1 1 /dev/sd0b none swap sw 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 I do really appreciate your help. Regards, --Uh ---------------------- Uh Gang-Ryung e-mail: uh@cs.fsu.edu Work Phone: 644-3366 ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:45:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA05942 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:45:09 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA05929 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:45:07 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA08541; Mon, 8 May 1995 13:44:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 13:44:39 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9505081744.AA08541@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Brian Tao Cc: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: Heavy HTTPD serving on 2.0-950412 In-Reply-To: References: <199505051840.LAA04219@corbin.Root.COM> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Ah, my next two questions already answered. ;-) I ran an 11-hour > test with NCSA httpd 1.4 last night with 4 local Ethernet clients and > 60 remote clients. No problems with NMBCLUSTERS set to 1024. Doing a > 'netstat -n | grep ^tcp' showed between 450 and 520 open connections, > almost all in TIME_WAIT and nearly 16K in the send queue (not > surprisingly, all to sites across the Pacific). FreeBSD's Transaction TCP support should significantly reduce the amount of time spent it TIME-WAIT states for FreeBSD clients talking to FreeBSD servers, if the clients and servers do the right thing. This is something that may substantially help `ftp' as well, but I'm not sure whether it's legal. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11:07:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA06311 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:07:25 -0700 Received: from frodi.cs.uop.edu ([138.9.200.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA06305 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:07:24 -0700 Received: from uop.cs.uop.edu by frodi.cs.uop.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA14047; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:07:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Tiggie To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: cleaning up /dev directory??? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk While I was trying to MAKEDEV tty00, the device would never show up. So I tried the command "sh /dev/MAKEDEV all". Is there a way to clean up /dev directory like rm all the devices and make only the ones that exist. If possible, could someone tell me the procedure to accomplish this. Thank you. Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:21:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA08011 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:21:40 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA08005 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:21:39 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA14509; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:19:21 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505081919.MAA14509@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Streams Drivers? To: marc@cmc.eng.comsat.com (MARC Giannoni) Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "MARC Giannoni" at May 8, 95 11:53:20 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 481 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk no it's not to SYSVish, but in the same breath, I must say I don't know of any work being done on it either.. karels has something called bstreams he's been mumbling about for a while, and jolitz has something called 'flows' he's been ruminating on for about as long.. terry MIGHT have a framework hidden away somewhere... julian > > > Is there any effort to support Streams Drivers, or is this too SysV-ish. > > Sort of like asking a Harley Biker for a Metric Wrench! > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:35:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA08248 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:35:48 -0700 Received: from FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA08234 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:35:23 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA14812; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:35:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 12:31:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez Subject: How to for ftp, http To: questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where do I find the setup information for ftp and http directory structures? What I am looking for is setting up the ftp user, default directories, and a welcome message for anonymous logins. I used the adduser program, then changed info with chfn, but I don't know if I was supposed to do this. Thanks, Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:42:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA09866 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 13:42:36 -0700 Received: from gemsgw.med.ge.com (gemsgw.med.ge.com [192.88.230.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA09860 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 13:42:34 -0700 Received: from gemed.med.ge.com by gemsgw.med.ge.com (4.1/GEMS-1.1) id AA06838; Mon, 8 May 95 15:43:04 CDT Received: from sol.sol.med.ge.com (sol-gw) by gemed.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05297; Mon, 8 May 95 15:43:25 CDT Received: from merak.med.ge.com by sol.sol.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25564; Mon, 8 May 95 15:42:47 CDT From: laufen@sol.med.ge.com (Derek Laufenberg x7-4534) Received: by merak.med.ge.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA05855; Mon, 8 May 95 15:42:45 CDT Date: Mon, 8 May 95 15:42:45 CDT Message-Id: <9505082042.AA05855@merak.med.ge.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: no display when X exits Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I realize this might not be the perfect place for this question, but here goes anyway. :) When I leave X windows I don't return to a working console. The display is blank. Commands I type are executed so the keyboard driver is working. I tried to execute a vidcontrol command to reset the console with no luck. I'm running 4/12/95 SNAP. My video card is a Diamond 64+ with 1M ram. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Derek Laufenberg laufen@sol.med.ge.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:33:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA23340 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 14:33:52 -0700 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23334 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 14:33:49 -0700 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA02427 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:33:28 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id RAA11247; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:33:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 17:33:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Making SNAP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to get a SNAP working WITHOUT doing a complete destruction of my FS. I have already made the new X11 stuff work, I have the src stuff, and it's sitting unpacked in a new clean /usr/src. I have loads of disk to spare. I tried doing a make depend, but the thing didn't work, expecting some stuff in /usr/include that my present 2.0R didn't have. Can I get some advice here, please? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:58:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA23724 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 14:58:21 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23718 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 14:58:19 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id RAA04148; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:58:14 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199505082158.RAA04148@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Restore from the tape To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 17:58:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 571 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, all.. I have Colorado 250 Tape drive. This afternoon, I did dump the /usr partition to 2 QIC80 tapes. Now I try 'restore i' or 'restore x', I got the error message /dev/rmt8: No such file or directory So, I tried to MAKEDEV rmt8, but I got rmt8 - no such device name Well, if you have experiences in dumping filesystems and restore, then would you tell me what is the best way to restore? Thanks in advance. Regards, --Uh ---------------------- Uh Gang-Ryung e-mail: uh@cs.fsu.edu Work Phone: 644-3366 ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15:10:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA24094 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:10:09 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA24088 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:10:08 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA15000; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:08:39 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505082208.PAA15000@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: vt100 To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ddunbar@ipxpress.aws.waii.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505081613.AA02532@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at May 8, 95 10:13:15 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 699 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > how do you get vt100 emulation in kermit so you can chat on da irc?? > > > > Run the DOS kermit, since it is the only one with VT100 emulation > in it. > > Run a local copy of IRC, since IRC doesn't require VT100 anyway. > > If you are not particular about where your VT100 comes from, run > your kermit in a "screen" window, since "screen" windows emulate > VT100's. or config a kernel using the PCVT console driver.. the PCVT is a PC VT based console emulating vt220 (I believe) which should accept vt100 commands julian > > > Terry Lambert > terry@cs.weber.edu > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15:10:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA24114 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:10:42 -0700 Received: from vegemite.Stanford.EDU (2842@vegemite.Stanford.EDU [36.159.0.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA24108 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:10:41 -0700 Received: (hlew@localhost) by vegemite.Stanford.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.4) id PAA04023; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:09:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:09:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: mbarkah@rksys.com, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, fn@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu, jfieber@cs.smith.edu, ddunbar@ipxpress.aws.waii.com, didier@aida.remcomp.fr, brian@mediacity.com, mikes@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu, taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw, tinguely@plains.nodak.edu cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: httpd 1.3 setup problem In-Reply-To: <199505060809.CAA29901@rksys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to thank everyone for the great response. Httpd 1.3 compiles and works great now. I also found httpd 1.4 and have played around with it a little bit. On Sun, 7 May 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > BTW, I have the pre-forking version of NCSA httpd 1.4 running on > my FreeBSD 2.0 system. Using a mixture of clients from both near (on > Ethernet) and far (across the ocean) pounding on the server for 10 > hours, I came up with a figure of 675000+ requests per day on a > 486DX4/100, with the load average hovering around 0.60 the whole time. :) > -- > Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao > taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org Brian, I'm surprised how well FreeBSD works as a WWW server on a 486 DX4/100. Can you give us any info on the setup? amount of RAM, type of hard disk, etc? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15:18:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA24226 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:18:21 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA24220 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:18:20 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA15050; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:17:03 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505082217.PAA15050@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: About the network of FreeBSD To: unforgettable@yonet.org (Frankie Fung) Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <645_9505072101@yonet.org> from "Frankie Fung" at May 7, 15 01:16:07 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1365 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk did you get a response to this? > > > Hello, > > I have problem when I have installed the FreeBSD 2.0. > When I finished it and try to use my network to telnet > to FreeBSD from my other computer, I cannot sucess it. > When FreeBSD was loading, I saw that ed1 is my network > which treated it as NE1000 (8-bit), however, my network > is a NE2000 compatible network card, it is a artisoft > product. The ed1 treated my network card as NE1000, and > then after login to "root" and pass the password, I > then type "ifconfig ed1 192.168.112.1". My IP address is > set as 192.168.112, and then the FreeBSD kernel complain > me as "Unforgettable kernel : Device Timeout of ed1" > something like that. This message will show to me > sometime. And then when I type "ifconfig ed1" to check > whether it is okay or not, I find that it is okay. > I see that it have a IP address to me. Then I try to > TELNET at the FreeBSD side, it is okay too, just > sometime it will have device timeout. > After that, I try to TELNET from my other computer side, > I set the DOS side as 192.168.112.240, and try to telnet > 192.168.112.1, it is no response. > > I just want to know how to solve this problem. > > Best regards, > Frankie Fung > From Hong Kong > E-mail : unforgettable@yonet.org > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15:31:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA24493 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:31:28 -0700 Received: from vinkku.hut.fi (vode@vinkku.hut.fi [130.233.245.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA24486 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:31:18 -0700 Received: (from vode@localhost) by vinkku.hut.fi (8.6.11/8.6.7) id BAA21336; Tue, 9 May 1995 01:30:50 +0300 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 01:30:50 +0300 From: Kai Vorma Message-Id: <199505082230.BAA21336@vinkku.hut.fi> To: John Cavanaugh Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: patch for running out of swap space bug in 1.1.5.1? In-Reply-To: <199505081617.JAA25775@bang.rain.com> References: <199505081617.JAA25775@bang.rain.com> Reply-To: Kai.Vorma@hut.fi Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Cavanaugh writes: > I'm running 1.1.5.1 on a 486/66 with a small newsfeed and am running > out of swap space every 5 days or so. I have heard rumors of there > being a patch out somewhere to fix this problem but I didn't see anything > when I went and looked around on cdrom.com. Is there a patch out there > somewhere or should I give in and upgrade to 2.x? Thanks. FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 leaks memory if you don't have enough RAM. I had a 486 with 4MB RAM (FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 + all relevant patches from ref and mailing-lists) working as UUCP-server and it run out of swap every few days (and crashed or had to be rebooted). We added 4MB more RAM about 8 weeks ago and it has now been up 55 days :-) ..vode From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15:52:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA25098 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:52:16 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA25088 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:52:11 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA01308; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:55:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA00306; Mon, 8 May 1995 15:52:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199505082252.PAA00306@corbin.Root.COM> To: Kai.Vorma@hut.fi cc: John Cavanaugh , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: patch for running out of swap space bug in 1.1.5.1? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 May 95 01:30:50 +0300." <199505082230.BAA21336@vinkku.hut.fi> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 08 May 1995 15:51:59 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >John Cavanaugh writes: > > I'm running 1.1.5.1 on a 486/66 with a small newsfeed and am running > > out of swap space every 5 days or so. I have heard rumors of there > > being a patch out somewhere to fix this problem but I didn't see anything > > when I went and looked around on cdrom.com. Is there a patch out there > > somewhere or should I give in and upgrade to 2.x? Thanks. > >FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 leaks memory if you don't have enough RAM. I had a 486 >with 4MB RAM (FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 + all relevant patches from ref and >mailing-lists) working as UUCP-server and it run out of swap every few >days (and crashed or had to be rebooted). We added 4MB more RAM about >8 weeks ago and it has now been up 55 days :-) Yes, there is a swap leak that will occur with (swap) paging. We don't have a 1.1.5 patch for it, however. It required rewrites of several routines and was too difficult to retrofit back into 1.1.5. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17:11:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA26305 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:11:04 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA26299 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:11:03 -0700 Received: from bang.rain.com (bang.rain.com [199.2.100.61]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA04851 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:04:10 -0700 Received: (from john@localhost) by bang.rain.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA15698; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:06:41 -0700 From: John Cavanaugh Message-Id: <199505090006.RAA15698@bang.rain.com> Subject: Re: patch for running out of swap space bug in 1.1.5.1? To: Kai.Vorma@hut.fi Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 17:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505082230.BAA21336@vinkku.hut.fi> from "Kai Vorma" at May 9, 95 01:30:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1040 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > John Cavanaugh writes: > > I'm running 1.1.5.1 on a 486/66 with a small newsfeed and am running > > out of swap space every 5 days or so. I have heard rumors of there > > being a patch out somewhere to fix this problem but I didn't see anything > > when I went and looked around on cdrom.com. Is there a patch out there > > somewhere or should I give in and upgrade to 2.x? Thanks. > > FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 leaks memory if you don't have enough RAM. I had a 486 > with 4MB RAM (FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 + all relevant patches from ref and > mailing-lists) working as UUCP-server and it run out of swap every few > days (and crashed or had to be rebooted). We added 4MB more RAM about > 8 weeks ago and it has now been up 55 days :-) Yeah, I have 8Mb in the box right now. The problem was that when I initially setup the machine, I only gave it 8Mb of swap (oops). But, with that 8Mb of ram and 8Mb of swap, I still run out swap and need to reboot every 5 days. -- John Cavanaugh "There can be only one." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17:11:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA26329 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:11:24 -0700 Received: from bang.rain.com (bang.rain.com [199.2.100.61]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA26316 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:11:21 -0700 Received: (from john@localhost) by bang.rain.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA16112; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:10:30 -0700 From: John Cavanaugh Message-Id: <199505090010.RAA16112@bang.rain.com> Subject: Re: patch for running out of swap space bug in 1.1.5.1? To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 17:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Kai.Vorma@hut.fi, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505082252.PAA00306@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at May 8, 95 03:51:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1194 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >John Cavanaugh writes: > > > I'm running 1.1.5.1 on a 486/66 with a small newsfeed and am running > > > out of swap space every 5 days or so. I have heard rumors of there > > > being a patch out somewhere to fix this problem but I didn't see anything > > > when I went and looked around on cdrom.com. Is there a patch out there > > > somewhere or should I give in and upgrade to 2.x? Thanks. > > > >FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 leaks memory if you don't have enough RAM. I had a 486 > >with 4MB RAM (FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 + all relevant patches from ref and > >mailing-lists) working as UUCP-server and it run out of swap every few > >days (and crashed or had to be rebooted). We added 4MB more RAM about > >8 weeks ago and it has now been up 55 days :-) > > Yes, there is a swap leak that will occur with (swap) paging. We don't > have a 1.1.5 patch for it, however. It required rewrites of several routines > and was too difficult to retrofit back into 1.1.5. That's kind of what I figured. Oh well. Know of a quick and painless way to upgrade a 1.1.5.1 box to 2.x when the said box is your gateway to the Internet? ;-) -- John Cavanaugh "There can be only one." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17:42:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA26979 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:42:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA26972 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:41:58 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Prev-Resent: Mon, 08 May 1995 17:41:57 -0700 Prev-Resent: "questions@freefall " Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA26397 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:14:49 -0700 Received: from aries.ai.net (ai.net [198.69.35.206]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA09010 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:14:28 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id UAA28573; Mon, 8 May 1995 20:11:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:11:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Disk Quota on BSD In-Reply-To: <27650.799961408@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-To: questions@freefall.cdrom.com Resent-Date: Mon, 08 May 1995 17:41:58 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <26971.799980118@freefall.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan - Real quick question. Why do you think quotacheck wouldn't be able to find any file systems from which to generate quota.group and quota.user files? My fstab /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 grpquota, usrquota /dev/sd2f /home ufs rw 1 1 grpquota, usrquota /dev/sd3f /home2 ufs rw 1 1 grpquota, usrquota /dev/sd0g /staff ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0f /tmp ufs rw 1 1 grpquota, usrquota /dev/sd3e /usr ufs rw 1 1 grpquota, usrquota /dev/sd0b none swap sw 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 quotacheck -av runs silently w/o errors. yet no files are created. When I try : quotacheck -g usr usr not found in /etc/fstab quotacheck -g /usr /usr not found in /etc/fstab quotacheck -g /dev/sd3e /dev/sd3e not found in /etc/fstab [same thing if I use a -u and/or a -v] The kernel is compiled with quota on, originally the system ran 2/10-SNAP and now its runs 4/12 with a 2/10 set of disk labels. The system boots up fine with the exception about griping about the difference in partition size. I do not believe quotacheck worked for me in 2/10 either, though I am prepared to move back to it if that would help solve the problem. [Maybe the question wasn't so quick after all.. :) ] Any help you can suggest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17:56:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA27397 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:56:53 -0700 Received: from biko.llc.org (root@biko.llc.org [199.45.69.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA27388 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:56:43 -0700 Received: from [199.45.69.33] (pm-03.llc.org [199.45.69.33]) by biko.llc.org (8.6.12/LLC) with SMTP id UAA06774 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 20:53:30 -0400 X-Sender: nit@llc.org (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:56:00 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: nit@llc.org (Martin Durand) Subject: Various questions Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The college where I'm network everything is about to get connected using ISDN (with those prices, who needs 56k!). IS guys being what they are, they insist on a firewall. I'm thinking of using FreeBSD with TIS's fwtk. Now for the problem spots. - I've been monitoring the firewalls mailing list where I posted my solution. Someone said go with BSDI, another with FreeBSD, still another said go with NetBSD. The only thing everyone seems to agree on is not to use Linux (a bug in the TCP/IP code it seems). From what I understand, NetBSD precedes FreeBSD 2.0 and BSDI 2.0. Aside from $$$ and "hacker" quality, what's nice about you guys ? - I would like to save money on routers and incorporate an ISDN card in the server. All our connections will go through the firewall to both channels (2-64k B channels). Can you recommend a card or card/external UTA that will work with FreeBSD ? - I will probably use a HP NetServer with integrated Adaptec SCSI controller. Comments? Problems? Other manfacturer? - Lastly, and I know this is plug time, any comments from users using FreeBSD as a base for a firewall? Thanks for the info. __________________________. Martin Durand | I know I should be working on my .sig file, nit@llc.org | but who reads these things... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:06:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA27629 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:06:06 -0700 Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com (wolfe.wimsey.com [204.191.160.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA27623 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:06:03 -0700 Received: from yonet by wolfe.wimsey.com with uucp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #10) id m0s8dkP-000EjhC; Mon, 8 May 95 18:06 PDT Received: by yonet.org (0.99.950303) id AA01386; 08 May 95 17:16:03 -0800 From: unforgettable@yonet.org (Frankie Fung) Date: 08 May 15 12:44:27 -0800 Subject: About the network of FreeBSD Message-ID: <7b7_9505081716@yonet.org> Organization: YO!Net International BBS Network In-Reply-To: m0s66iP-000EkZC@wolfe.wimsey.com To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have problem when I have installed the FreeBSD 2.0. When I finished it and try to use my network to telnet to FreeBSD from my other computer, I cannot sucess it. When FreeBSD was loading, I saw that ed1 is my network which treated it as NE1000 (8-bit), however, my network is a NE2000 compatible network card, it is a artisoft product. The ed1 treated my network card as NE1000, and then after login to "root" and pass the password, I then type "ifconfig ed1 192.168.112.1". My IP address is set as 192.168.112, and then the FreeBSD kernel complain me as "Unforgettable kernel : Device Timeout of ed1" something like that. This message will show to me sometime. And then when I type "ifconfig ed1" to check whether it is okay or not, I find that it is okay. I see that it have a IP address to me. Then I try to TELNET at the FreeBSD side, it is okay too, just sometime it will have device timeout. After that, I try to TELNET from my other computer side, I set the DOS side as 192.168.112.240, and try to telnet 192.168.112.1, it is no response. I just want to know how to solve this problem. Best regards, Frankie Fung >From Hong Kong E-mail : unforgettable@yonet.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:14:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA28200 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:14:21 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA28176 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:14:13 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05256; Mon, 8 May 95 19:05:02 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505090105.AA05256@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Streams Drivers? To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Mon, 8 May 95 19:05:01 MDT Cc: marc@cmc.eng.comsat.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505081919.MAA14509@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at May 8, 95 12:19:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > no it's not to SYSVish, but in the same breath, I must say I don't know > of any work being done on it either.. > karels has something called bstreams he's been mumbling about for a while, > and jolitz has something called 'flows' he's been ruminating on for about > as long.. terry MIGHT have a framework hidden away somewhere... I do; it's an SVR4.2 MP safe streams implementation. The bad news is that it runs only on 386BSD 0.1 + patchkit 1 and uses SVR4.0.2 sources for the ldterm and card drivers and uses Lachman sources for the TCP/IP. The other bad news is it panics when you use priority banding. The real bad news is that I finished it up after June of 1993, so Novell thinks they own it (they're wrong, but it takes a lot of strength to argue with the former USL). It would require a lot of work to get the pre-June '93 code up to snuff; I have it on a QIC-150 at home (without the USL/Lachman code it needs to link); the only other place it exists is on a 300M ESDI drive up at Weber (one that won't run because the WD1007 it was attached to is fried). Streams itself is almost trivial to write (well, excepting the priority banding stuff, obviously), with the big chunks going into the system call interface, the queue code, and the streams modules themselves (oh yeah; and the streams tail code to let them talk to drivers). Basically, the new networking code, the new syscall interface, and various other changes mean it's close to a total rewrite to make it go. On the other hand, the University of Arizona has Novell's SPX and IPX and their own TCP/IP running in an xkernel implementation, which is a very Streams-like environment. It might be worth grabbing that, or getting bstreams (if you can). Finally, there's a Streams implementation being done for Linux right now; I could dig out the reference if i had to... Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:16:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA28343 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:16:17 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA28332 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:16:09 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05271; Mon, 8 May 95 19:09:34 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505090109.AA05271@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: no display when X exits To: laufen@sol.med.ge.com (Derek Laufenberg x7-4534) Date: Mon, 8 May 95 19:09:33 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <9505082042.AA05855@merak.med.ge.com> from "Derek Laufenberg x7-4534" at May 8, 95 03:42:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > When I leave X windows I don't return to a working console. The display > is blank. Commands I type are executed so the keyboard driver is working. > I tried to execute a vidcontrol command to reset the console with no > luck. > > I'm running 4/12/95 SNAP. My video card is a Diamond 64+ with 1M ram. > > Anyone have any ideas? When you exit X windows, a signal is sent to the X server to tell it to put the video card into the default console mode so that it can again be managed by the console software (this is the same thing that happens if you switch consoles from the one running X to a text console without actually stopping X). Apparently, the X server is not correctly handling the console mode reset like it should be. Talk to the X server people. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:20:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA28396 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:20:52 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA28389 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:20:49 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05319; Mon, 8 May 95 19:14:01 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505090114.AA05319@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: vt100 To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Mon, 8 May 95 19:14:00 MDT Cc: ddunbar@ipxpress.aws.waii.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505082208.PAA15000@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at May 8, 95 03:08:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ ... IRC supposedly needing a VT100 ... ] > or config a kernel using the PCVT console driver.. > the PCVT is a PC VT based console > emulating vt220 (I believe) which should accept vt100 commands If you are careful to not put it in enhanced mode (if you do, it will send it's keys with a CSI character (0x9c) instead of ESC-[). And if you are willing to generally lose a line from your display for all other uses (since a VT100/VT220 terminal, by definition, has only 24 lines). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:27:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA28653 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:27:05 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA28645 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:27:03 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA26642 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:58:57 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199505090128.KAA26642@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Tagged Command queueing... To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:58:56 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 761 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings people! First, the obligatory thanks to the FreeBSD team, they do seem to deserve it 8) I've been following -hackers and -questions for a while now, and the subject of SCSI Tagged Command support has come up a number of times, in conjunction with (I believe) the adaptec driver. I currently run a couple of Ultrastor 34F controllers, which have proven extremely reliable and (going by the numbers posted here off and on) very quick. The literature for these controllers indicates that they support TCQ, and the disks I'm using support it as well. The question is; does the FreeBSD driver? If not, will it at some stage? AdvThanksance. (Hi julian E! Thanks for the help back when I was getting this thing sorted 8) Mike Smith Genesis Software From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:27:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA28659 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:27:06 -0700 Received: from nak.berkeley.edu (nak.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.136.21]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA28651 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:27:05 -0700 Received: from olac.Berkeley.EDU by nak.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.40) id SAA19205; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:27:04 -0700 Received: by olac.Berkeley.EDU (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00485; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:24:55 +0800 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik A. Pearson" X-Sender: epearson@olac To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 623 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've got another question. I'm attempting to install freebsd on an ide drive from the walnut creek cdrom in a mitsumi lu002 cdrom drive. The floppies install fine, but the cdrom does not work well enough to allow installation. The drive will mount, and I can ls & cat around the drive, but the installation gets hung up on 'time out' errors. This is probably due to the fact that the only the mcd0 device is hardwired for 300/10 -- but the only irq settings allowed on the lu002 8-bit board are 2,3 and 5!! Is there some way around this -- e.g. a device that can copied into /dev? Thanks a lot, Erik Pearson From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:35:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA29025 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:35:05 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA29019 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 18:35:03 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05635; Mon, 8 May 95 19:28:30 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505090128.AA05635@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 To: epearson@olac.berkeley.edu (Erik A. Pearson) Date: Mon, 8 May 95 19:28:30 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Erik A. Pearson" at May 8, 95 06:24:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've got another question. I'm attempting to install freebsd on an ide > drive from the walnut creek cdrom in a mitsumi lu002 cdrom drive. The > floppies install fine, but the cdrom does not work well enough to allow > installation. The drive will mount, and I can ls & cat around the drive, > but the installation gets hung up on 'time out' errors. This is probably > due to the fact that the only the mcd0 device is hardwired for 300/10 -- > but the only irq settings allowed on the lu002 8-bit board are 2,3 and > 5!! Is there some way around this -- e.g. a device that can copied into > /dev? Boot the kernel with the -c option and change the interrupt on the built in driver. I'd suggest changing the one that probes it successfully (look at your current boot messages) so that it will be found for sure. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:37:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA00710 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:37:07 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA00703 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:37:03 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA01698; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:40:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01768; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:36:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199505090236.TAA01768@corbin.Root.COM> To: John Cavanaugh cc: Kai.Vorma@hut.fi, questions@FreeBSD.org, batie@agora.rdrop.com Subject: Re: patch for running out of swap space bug in 1.1.5.1? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 May 95 17:10:27 PDT." <199505090010.RAA16112@bang.rain.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 08 May 1995 19:36:58 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >John Cavanaugh writes: >> > > I'm running 1.1.5.1 on a 486/66 with a small newsfeed and am running >> > > out of swap space every 5 days or so. I have heard rumors of there >> > > being a patch out somewhere to fix this problem but I didn't see anything >> > > when I went and looked around on cdrom.com. Is there a patch out there >> > > somewhere or should I give in and upgrade to 2.x? Thanks. >> > >> >FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 leaks memory if you don't have enough RAM. I had a 486 >> >with 4MB RAM (FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 + all relevant patches from ref and >> >mailing-lists) working as UUCP-server and it run out of swap every few >> >days (and crashed or had to be rebooted). We added 4MB more RAM about >> >8 weeks ago and it has now been up 55 days :-) >> >> Yes, there is a swap leak that will occur with (swap) paging. We don't >> have a 1.1.5 patch for it, however. It required rewrites of several routines >> and was too difficult to retrofit back into 1.1.5. > >That's kind of what I figured. Oh well. Know of a quick and painless >way to upgrade a 1.1.5.1 box to 2.x when the said box is your gateway to >the Internet? ;-) Bring your machine over to Alan's some (weekend) night, and perhaps we can upgrade it there. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:43:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA00981 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:43:51 -0700 Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA00974 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:43:45 -0700 Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0s8fJT-00016VC; Mon, 8 May 95 19:46 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: patch for running out of swap space bug in 1.1.5.1? To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: john@bang.rain.com, Kai.Vorma@hut.fi, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505090236.TAA01768@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at May 8, 95 07:36:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 628 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > cc: Kai.Vorma@hut.fi, questions@freebsd.org ... > Bring your machine over to Alan's some (weekend) night, and perhaps we can > upgrade it there. If someone comes all the way from Finland to do an upgrade, I'll probably help them, but I think I'll have to draw the line at the entire "questions" mailing list --- my basement isn't *that* big :-) -- Alan Batie ______ batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Freedom for me to be and do +1 503 452-0960 \ / only what *you* approve of 45 28 59 N / 122 43 20 W / 440' MSL \/ is no freedom at all. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:03:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA03719 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:03:52 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03713 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:03:40 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA26758; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:02:54 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:02:53 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Howard Lew cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: httpd 1.3 setup problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 May 1995, Howard Lew wrote: > > Brian, I'm surprised how well FreeBSD works as a WWW server on a 486 > DX4/100. Can you give us any info on the setup? amount of RAM, type of > hard disk, etc? Test results using the Apache 0.62 beta server are available at http://140.109.40.248/~taob/Bench/fbsd-apache.html. The hardware is listed there. I'm typing up the results that I mentioned in my previous message right now (demand vs. pre-forking NCSA httpd 1.4). The upshot is that you can serve half a million requests a day with a load average of less than 1 with a $2000 machine. You need to recompile your kernel with more mbufs, but that's covered in the report. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:10:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA03785 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:10:09 -0700 Received: from RosedeLima.Vir.com (RosedeLima.Vir.com [199.84.154.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03779 ; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:10:07 -0700 Received: from ipdyne3.vir.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id AAA30852; Tue, 9 May 1995 00:01:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 00:01:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199505090501.AAA30852@Vir.com> X-Sender: procecorjb@vir.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: bugs@FreeBSD.org From: procecorjb@Vir.com (Robert Burns) Subject: Pine Bug Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have recently compiled Pine after downloading the most current port and I have have experienced the following problem: I connect to my host {vir.com/pop3} and after logging in, I get a message that I have x messages in my "inbox". Then when I try to open my inbox, after loading a few messages, pine aborts with the message: Bug in Pine detected: "Recieved abort signal". Exiting Pine When extracting and reading news however, all is fine. I've tried both the "popper" and "ipop3d" POP interfaces and there is no difference. Has this been reported before, is there a fix? Robert Burns procecorjb@vir.com mtl,ca From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:29:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA03946 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:29:30 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03940 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:29:24 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA26837; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:28:28 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:28:27 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Terry Lambert cc: Don Dunbar , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vt100 In-Reply-To: <9505081613.AA02532@cs.weber.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 May 1995, Terry Lambert wrote: > > If you are not particular about where your VT100 comes from, run > your kermit in a "screen" window, since "screen" windows emulate > VT100's. Or use the PCVT consoles. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:31:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA03974 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:31:11 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03968 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:31:07 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA26848; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:30:46 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:30:46 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: vt100 In-Reply-To: <9505090114.AA05319@cs.weber.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 May 1995, Terry Lambert wrote: > > And if you are willing to generally lose a line from your display for > all other uses (since a VT100/VT220 terminal, by definition, has only > 24 lines). Runs just fine with 50 lines here. I can't think of anything I use day-to-day that insists on 24 lines... -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:33:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA04002 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:33:52 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03996 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:33:47 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA26856; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:32:04 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:32:04 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Garrett Wollman cc: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: Heavy HTTPD serving on 2.0-950412 In-Reply-To: <9505081744.AA08541@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 May 1995, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > FreeBSD's Transaction TCP support should significantly reduce the > amount of time spent it TIME-WAIT states for FreeBSD clients talking > to FreeBSD servers, if the clients and servers do the right thing. But does anyone else do this currently? -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:34:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA04015 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:34:43 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA04009 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:34:42 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA18061; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:33:09 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505090533.WAA18061@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Tagged Command queueing... To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 22:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505090128.KAA26642@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at May 9, 95 10:58:56 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1736 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Greetings people! > > First, the obligatory thanks to the FreeBSD team, they do seem to deserve > it 8) > > I've been following -hackers and -questions for a while now, and the > subject of SCSI Tagged Command support has come up a number of times, > in conjunction with (I believe) the adaptec driver. > > I currently run a couple of Ultrastor 34F controllers, which have > proven extremely reliable and (going by the numbers posted here off and on) > very quick. The literature for these controllers indicates that they > support TCQ, and the disks I'm using support it as well. The disk driver will queue several commands to the board at once for each drive. (if the driver tells it it can) I assume that the board will do TQ if it get's the oportunity.. > > The question is; does the FreeBSD driver? If not, will it at some stage? > > AdvThanksance. > > (Hi julian E! Thanks for the help back when I was getting this thing sorted 8) you're welcome > > Mike Smith > Genesis Software > As for teh ultrastore controller, look for: /* * fill in the prototype scsi_link. */ uha->sc_link.adapter_unit = unit; uha->sc_link.adapter_targ = uha->our_id; uha->sc_link.adapter = &uha_switch; uha->sc_link.device = &uha_dev; uha->sc_link.flags = SDEV_BOUNCE; and add to it: uha->sc_link.opennings = 2; this will tell teh scsi code it can send upto two commands at a time to each disk... try iozone before and after and let me know if it changes? (I hadn't realised that that driver was single-threading it's commands..) take a backup first :) it might confuse the driver/scsi-system if they can't handle 2 requests.. (later we can try 3,4,5 :) julian From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:43:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA04168 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:43:35 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA04162 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:43:33 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA18106; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:43:20 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505090543.WAA18106@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Various questions To: nit@llc.org (Martin Durand) Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 22:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Martin Durand" at May 8, 95 08:56:00 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2358 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The college where I'm network everything is about to get connected using > ISDN (with those prices, who needs 56k!). IS guys being what they are, they > insist on a firewall. I'm thinking of using FreeBSD with TIS's fwtk. Now > for the problem spots. it should work.. FreeBSD ALSO has firewalling built into the kernel (option ipfw I think.) > > - I've been monitoring the firewalls mailing list where I posted my > solution. Someone said go with BSDI, another with FreeBSD, still another > said go with NetBSD. The only thing everyone seems to agree on is not to > use Linux (a bug in the TCP/IP code it seems). From what I understand, > NetBSD precedes FreeBSD 2.0 and BSDI 2.0. Aside from $$$ and "hacker" > quality, what's nice about you guys ? I don't know if NetBSD is preferable to FreeBSD.. their code is much the same.. hacker quality is pretty good.. The freebsd install (particularly the new one to be released next week is far better. and we support more devices on PCs Our ISDN support is only embrionic, but that's 100% more than NetBSD. Unfortunatly we onlt support some German cards at the moment, though I'm told there are some that appear hayes compatible and might not require extra drivers. > > - I would like to save money on routers and incorporate an ISDN card in the > server. All our connections will go through the firewall to both channels > (2-64k B channels). Can you recommend a card or card/external UTA that will > work with FreeBSD ? Digiboard make a nice one, but you need one for each end... enet----digi----isdn----digi---enet > > - I will probably use a HP NetServer with integrated Adaptec SCSI > controller. Comments? Problems? Other manfacturer? don't know it.. take a FreeBSD SNAP bootfloppy and try boot it first to see if it finds the SCSI .... > > - Lastly, and I know this is plug time, any comments from users using > FreeBSD as a base for a firewall? we use one here.. it's only a 483sx33 but it bridges two enets just fine (using the kernel ipfw mode) (you can block all sorts of things..) the big missing feature in this is the ability to block on TCP level criteria, only on IP level.. > > Thanks for the info. > > __________________________. > Martin Durand | I know I should be working on my .sig file, > nit@llc.org | but who reads these things... > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 23:04:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA04548 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 23:04:30 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (root@cc.jyu.fi [130.234.0.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA04540 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 23:04:15 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA26896 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Tue, 9 May 1995 09:05:47 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 09:05:42 +0300 To: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: Cc: ianw@ee.su.oz.au, questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 16:11 8/5/95, Tanel Kuusk wrote: >> I can't compile the following program. >> >> #include In my FreeBSD 2.0: kaarna:~% c++ koe.C kaarna:~% cc koe.C /var/tmp/cc0228651.o: Undefined symbol `_cout' referenced from text segment /var/tmp/cc0228651.o: Undefined symbol `___ls__7ostreamPCc' referenced from = text segment So it seems that you have tu call the C++ compiler, not the C compiler impli= cit. Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 23:48:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA05179 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 1995 23:48:03 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA05173 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 23:48:02 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA261002077; Mon, 8 May 1995 23:47:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199505090647.AA261002077@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA16258; Tue, 9 May 1995 16:47:53 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: graphics. animation programming libs To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Tue, 9 May 95 16:47:51 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What do people find about the easiest graphics libs to use for graphics and animation programming under X environment, but without actually have to deal directly with X ? I am looking for some libs for fast prototyping and very easy to use. Thanks in advance. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 01:14:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA06092 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 01:14:59 -0700 Received: from inet-user-gw-1.us.oracle.com (inet-user-gw-1.us.oracle.com [192.86.155.82]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA06086 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 01:14:56 -0700 Received: from iesun1.ie.oracle.com by inet-user-gw-1.us.oracle.com with SMTP (8.6.12/37.7) id BAA07420; Tue, 9 May 1995 01:14:46 -0700 Received: by iesun1.ie.oracle.com (4.1/37.3.TJL.1.84) id AA20753; Tue, 9 May 95 09:14:08 BST Message-Id: <9505090814.AA20753@iesun1.ie.oracle.com> From: Henry Chung Subject: HELP: can not remove file libc.so.2.0 after make world failed To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 May 95 9:14:07 BST Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello People, I think this has been asked, I'm not sure, and I can't find it in my mail folder. The system I have is FreeBSD 2.0 fresh install from CD-ROM, and I haven't apply any patch to it. Then I did a "make world" with DESTDIR=/usr/obj. "make world" failed, the reason it failed because the "sys" in /usr/obj/usr/include is pointed to itself, and make complain it can not find "ioctl.h". Anyway after "make world" failed, I then "cd /usr/obj" and did a "rm -rf *", and it complains that: /usr/obj/usr/lib/libc.so.2.0: operation not permitted. I login as root, and even bring the machine to single user mode, also get the same error, and the file can be removed. o Q1: How do I remove the /usr/obj/usr/lib/libc.so.2.0 file? o Q2: How do I get "make world" working? Like what patch I need to apply? o Q3: How do I get all these patches? Like ftp or mail? Thank you very much for all your time. Regards, -- Henry From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 01:16:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA06116 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 01:16:31 -0700 Received: from inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com (inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com [16.1.0.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA06107 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 01:16:15 -0700 Received: from tartufo.pcs.dec.com by inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com (5.65/24Feb95) id AA21063; Tue, 9 May 95 01:09:26 -0700 Received: by tartufo.pcs.dec.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.16.1 #16.39) id ; Tue, 9 May 95 10:09 MSZ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 9 May 95 10:09 MSZ From: me@tartufo.pcs.dec.com (Michael Elbel) To: nit@llc.org Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Various questions Newsgroups: pcs.freebsd.questions References: Reply-To: me@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In pcs.freebsd.questions you write: >- Lastly, and I know this is plug time, any comments from users using >FreeBSD as a base for a firewall? There seem to be some, after all there's firewall code in the kernel :-) We're about to set up a quite similar construct here to connect our corporation to the internet. I've commited myself to use FreeBSD and can't see any reason why it wouldn't work. I see several possibilities to connect to ISDN though: - Active ISDN card with special driver (there's support for some Dr. Neuhaus cards in the kernel, but they only support the German/European D channel protocols) - ISDN card that looks like a internal modem to the user - configure it like any old analog modem - External ISDN "terminal adapter", same thing. I don't know what interrupt load the modem-like-looking things put on your system, after all you'll have to set the serial line to 115200bps. Joe Greco recommends to use a low end machine (e.g. 386DX/40) as dedicated ISDN router. He is obviously using a Motorola UTA220 with good results. Michael -- Michael Elbel, PCS GmbH, Muenchen, Germany - me@FreeBSD.org Fermentation fault (coors dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 02:03:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA07274 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 02:03:44 -0700 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA07167 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 02:02:00 -0700 Received: (uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.8/8.3) id KAA12896; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:58:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:58:15 +0200 From: Lars Koeller Message-Id: <199505090858.KAA12896@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM' dated: Tue, 9 May 95 16:47:51 EST Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm using the following really simple to handle library: libsx. You can get it under the following name: libsx-1.1.tar.gz i think! Included are some nice demo-progs and a small documentation. Have fun Lars -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lars Köller E-Mail: University of Rostock (Germany) lars.koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Fachbereich Physik Universitätsplatz 3 Phone: +49 381/498-1665 or 498-1648 18051 Rostock Fax: +49 381/498-1667 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 03:08:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA08988 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 03:08:28 -0700 Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie (gate1.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA08972 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 03:08:22 -0700 Received: from mip1.networx.ie (networx.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.33.49]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA06384 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:53:59 +0100 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 11:06:57 BST From: Michael Ryan Subject: Using walnut creek CD with Mitsumi quad-speed CD ROM To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir/Madam, I received the FreeBSD 2.0 CD from Walut Creek last week. However I'm having some problems with installing. I'm using a Gateway-2000 60 Mhz. Pentium machine with a Mitsumi quad-speed CD Rom (Device driver version 1.10). When I try and boot BSD from CD, The MCD0 (Mitsumi CD) device doesn't detect presence of Cd-Rom. I did a Kernel -c boot and changed IRQ,Port settings for that device to the actual settings. The CD- Rom still doesn't recognise the CD. Have you any suggestions ? Regards, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 04:44:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA10702 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 04:44:48 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA10696 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 04:44:44 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06497; Tue, 9 May 1995 14:44:25 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08902; Tue, 9 May 1995 14:42:57 +0300 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 14:42:57 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9505091142.AA08902@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: 2.0.5? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi all! last week i read something about a freebsd 2.0.5 coming out very soon now... is it true? and what will be the diffs between 4/12 snap and 2.0.5? and when will it be available? thanks in advance, tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 05:17:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA11247 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 05:17:28 -0700 Received: from zap.zap.qc.ca (zap.zap.qc.ca [198.168.127.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA11241 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 05:17:22 -0700 Received: (from fortin@localhost) by zap.zap.qc.ca (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA10740; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:14:45 -0400 From: Denis Fortin Message-Id: <199505091214.IAA10740@zap.zap.qc.ca> Subject: Re: Using walnut creek CD with Mitsumi quad-speed CD ROM To: mike@networx.ie (Michael Ryan) Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 08:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Ryan" at May 9, 95 11:06:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 709 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am using a Gateway-2000 60 Mhz. Pentium machine with a Mitsumi > quad-speed CD Rom (Device driver version 1.10). When I try and > boot BSD from CD, The MCD0 (Mitsumi CD) device doesn't detect > presence of Cd-Rom. The 4x speed Mitsumi doesn't use the proprietary interface that the Mitsumi 1x and 2x CDROMs used. It is an "IDE CDROM", hence the MCD0 device will not work with it. It is my understanding that FreeBSD will soon support them (in 2.0.5 or 2.1?) but others from the list are in a better position than I am to confirm this. -- Denis Fortin fortin@acm.org DMR Group Inc, (514) 877-3301 These opinions are my own From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 07:23:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA15552 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 07:23:46 -0700 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA15513 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 07:22:28 -0700 Received: from crane by mercury with UKC POP3+; Tue, 9 May 1995 15:09:13 +0100 To: paul@FreeBSD.org cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Colorado Jumbo 250MB ft, and FreeBSD 2.0R Date: Tue, 09 May 1995 15:09:09 +0100 Message-ID: <28403.800028549@crane> From: Richard Hesketh Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" flags 0x1 bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr >> disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 >> disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 >> tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 >Have you got two floppies? This config doesn't work for me. I get lots of >input in output errors and the tape isn't found. I've just got the April snapshot of FreeBSD running on my new pentium, which has a Jumbo 350 attached and came across the same problem. After poking about in /sys/i386/isa/ft.c I found that it needed a flag set before the driver actually found the tape. My kernel config is set with: controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" flags 0x1 bio irq 6 drq 2 flags 1 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 and it is now working! The only thing that still is not working (apart from the ATAPI CD-ROM 8-) is that it does not have the right geometery settings for the 170/340Mb 425 foot QICs that it uses. I have had a go at bodging up something that partially works but would love to know the "right values". Regards, Richard From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 07:57:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA16353 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 07:57:39 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA16340 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 07:57:32 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA09769; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:57:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:57:00 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9505091457.AA09769@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Brian Tao Cc: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: Heavy HTTPD serving on 2.0-950412 In-Reply-To: References: <9505081744.AA08541@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > On Mon, 8 May 1995, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> FreeBSD's Transaction TCP support should significantly reduce the >> amount of time spent it TIME-WAIT states for FreeBSD clients talking >> to FreeBSD servers, if the clients and servers do the right thing. > But does anyone else do this currently? Well, we have to lead by example :-) . -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 08:10:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA16806 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:10:56 -0700 Received: from nak.berkeley.edu (nak.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.136.21]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA16800 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:10:54 -0700 Received: from olac.Berkeley.EDU by nak.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.40) id IAA13898; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:10:53 -0700 Received: by olac.Berkeley.EDU (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03244; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:08:43 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 08:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik A. Pearson" X-Sender: epearson@olac To: Terry Lambert Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1626 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry, Thanks for answering my question so quickly! > > I've got another question. I'm attempting to install freebsd on an ide > > drive from the walnut creek cdrom in a mitsumi lu002 cdrom drive. The > > floppies install fine, but the cdrom does not work well enough to allow > > installation. The drive will mount, and I can ls & cat around the drive, > > but the installation gets hung up on 'time out' errors. This is probably > > due to the fact that the only the mcd0 device is hardwired for 300/10 -- > > but the only irq settings allowed on the lu002 8-bit board are 2,3 and > > 5!! Is there some way around this -- e.g. a device that can copied into > > /dev? > > Boot the kernel with the -c option and change the interrupt on the > built in driver. > > I'd suggest changing the one that probes it successfully (look at your > current boot messages) so that it will be found for sure. However, last night I was poking around the BSD Web Page for information on this problem, and ran into your suggestion, as put forth in the usenet archives by Sean Kelly (12/28/94). However, after trying this there was no discernable improvement -- I tried all available irqs on the card with the matching irq on the card -- the io address is fine too since the probe reveals the "version information is 0 M 2" etc. message. Some of the responses to the usenet threads indicated that this solution may not work. Have you found that this actually works? Are there other settings on the card or driver that should be changed? Should the DMA channel on the card be set to 1, 3, or none? Thanks again, Erik Pearson. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 08:21:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA17129 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:21:30 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA17118 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:21:19 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA09835; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:20:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 11:20:45 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9505091520.AA09835@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Network Coordinator Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Disk Quota on BSD In-Reply-To: References: <27650.799961408@time.cdrom.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 grpquota, usrquota /dev/sd0a / ufs rw,userquota,groupquota 1 1 -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 10:18:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA19973 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:18:43 -0700 Received: from estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (estienne.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.42.147]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA19967 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:18:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA05598; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:18:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199505091718.KAA05598@estienne.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: estienne.cs.berkeley.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Julian Elischer cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith), questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Tagged Command queueing... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 May 1995 22:33:09 PDT." <199505090533.WAA18061@ref.tfs.com> Date: Tue, 09 May 1995 10:18:07 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >> Greetings people! >> >> I currently run a couple of Ultrastor 34F controllers, which have >> proven extremely reliable and (going by the numbers posted here off and on) >> very quick. The literature for these controllers indicates that they >> support TCQ, and the disks I'm using support it as well. >The disk driver will queue several commands to the board at once >for each drive. (if the driver tells it it can) >I assume that the board will do TQ if it get's the oportunity.. >> ... >As for teh ultrastore controller, >look for: > /* > * fill in the prototype scsi_link. > */ > uha->sc_link.adapter_unit = unit; > uha->sc_link.adapter_targ = uha->our_id; > uha->sc_link.adapter = &uha_switch; > uha->sc_link.device = &uha_dev; > uha->sc_link.flags = SDEV_BOUNCE; > >and add to it: > uha->sc_link.opennings = 2; > >this will tell teh scsi code it can send upto two commands at >a time to each disk... >try iozone before and after and let me know if it changes? > >(I hadn't realised that that driver was single-threading it's commands..) > >take a backup first :) it might confuse the driver/scsi-system >if they can't handle 2 requests.. > >(later we can try 3,4,5 :) Before you try going above 4, you might want to fix the ccb allocation code so that running out of ccbs isn't terminal. Take a look at the buslogic and aic7xxx drivers to see what I mean. > >julian > -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 10:26:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA20145 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:26:05 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA20138 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:26:02 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05214; Tue, 9 May 95 11:19:05 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505091719.AA05214@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: vt100 To: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw (Brian Tao) Date: Tue, 9 May 95 11:19:05 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at May 9, 95 01:30:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > And if you are willing to generally lose a line from your display for > > all other uses (since a VT100/VT220 terminal, by definition, has only > > 24 lines). > > Runs just fine with 50 lines here. I can't think of anything I > use day-to-day that insists on 24 lines... LSE. EDT. TPU. VAXWorks. VAX BASIC. Any software with hard coded ideas about what a VT100 is (since a VT100 *by definition* has 24 lines). Like an IRC client on the other end of a serial connection that has no method of inputting your terminal type (I knew that this was probably the case and that a local client was probably not an option when I saw the original poster's insistance on VT100 in combination with IRC). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 10:33:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA20278 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:33:52 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA20272 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:33:47 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26705; Tue, 9 May 95 17:33:14 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA07796; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:33:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:33:33 -0400 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9505091733.AA07796@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA235450813; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:33:33 -0600 To: epearson@olac.berkeley.edu Cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: (epearson@olac.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Erik" == Erik A Pearson writes: Erik> [ ... about problems with Mitsumi I/F CD-ROM ... ] The Mitsumi I/F driver in 2.0 doesn't work quite right with a number of Mitsumi CD-ROM drives. I and several others have experienced problems with strange timeouts, complaints that there's no CD in the drive, and other frustrating what-not. We can read some amount of data and then without warning the fool thing gets confused; unmounting and remounting sometimes fixes it. Using the mcd.c and mcdreg.h files from one of the later snaps in the 2.0 kernel fixed the problem for me. If you want, I can make a boot.flp available with a 2.0 kernel and newer Mitsumi driver in it and you can try installing from that. Of course, I could've totally misinterpreted the problem. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA Laugh, clown, laugh. This is what I tell myself whenever I dress up like Bozo. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 10:40:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA20432 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:40:28 -0700 Received: from plaza.ds.adp.com (lockbox.plaza.ds.adp.com [139.126.34.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA20426 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:40:23 -0700 Received: from adpgate.plaza.ds.adp.com by plaza.ds.adp.com (4.1/3.1.012693-Automatic Data Processing Dealer Services); id AA14288 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 May 95 10:29:17 PDT Received: from toad.plaza.ds.adp.com by adpgate.plaza.ds.adp.com (Automatic Data Processing Dealer Services/1.0) id AA16224; Tue, 9 May 95 10:38:48 -0700 Received: by toad.plaza.ds.adp.com (Automatic Data Processing Dealer Services/1.0) id AA19631; Tue, 9 May 95 10:39:40 -0700 Message-Id: <9505091739.AA19631@toad.plaza.ds.adp.com> Subject: pppd is killing me... To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: mjk@plaza.ds.adp.com (Mike Kephart) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 859 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, No, not literally, but mentally! I've been using pppd to connect to a cisco terminal server for remote IP connectivity. I get connected fine and everything runs wonderfully for from 5 to 60 minutes. Just when I'm really going great, my system locks up for a few seconds, and reboots itself! I don't see any panic messages, but I'm running the X server, so maybe I'm missing this info. I'm running straight off the Walnut Creek FreeBSD 2.0 CD, with no patches. I using a Gateway Pentium 66 Mhz system with 16MB RAM. (FreeBSD performs great on this platform, for me). I'm using a 28.8 modem, hooked up externally on cua00, set at 38400 bps. Anybody got any ideas or suggestions? BTW, I do have the bpfilter pseudo-driver loaded - any potential problems with this? \MikeK Mike Kephart ADP Dealer Services, Portland, OR (503) 294-5280 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 10:56:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA20652 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:56:18 -0700 Received: from nak.berkeley.edu (nak.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.136.21]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA20646 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:56:16 -0700 Received: from olac.Berkeley.EDU by nak.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.40) id KAA29225; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:56:11 -0700 Received: by olac.Berkeley.EDU (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03900; Tue, 9 May 1995 10:53:59 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:53:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik A. Pearson" X-Sender: epearson@olac To: Sean Kelly Cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 In-Reply-To: <9505091733.AA07796@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1011 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean, On Tue, 9 May 1995, Sean Kelly wrote: > >>>>> "Erik" == Erik A Pearson writes: > > Erik> [ ... about problems with Mitsumi I/F CD-ROM ... ] > > The Mitsumi I/F driver in 2.0 doesn't work quite right with a number > of Mitsumi CD-ROM drives. I and several others have experienced > problems with strange timeouts, complaints that there's no CD in the > drive, and other frustrating what-not. We can read some amount of > data and then without warning the fool thing gets confused; unmounting > and remounting sometimes fixes it. > > Using the mcd.c and mcdreg.h files from one of the later snaps in the > 2.0 kernel fixed the problem for me. If you want, I can make a > boot.flp available with a 2.0 kernel and newer Mitsumi driver in it > and you can try installing from that. That would be fantastic! If you could let me know when it is available -- thanks. > > Of course, I could've totally misinterpreted the problem. I think not! Thanks, Erik Pearson. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 11:01:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA20866 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:01:56 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA20855 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:01:55 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA19775 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:01:51 -0700 Received: from egeo.unipg.it (egeo.unipg.it [141.250.1.4]) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA19352 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:24:50 -0700 Received: by egeo.unipg.it (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/MH-1.08) id AA34166; Tue, 9 May 1995 17:24:41 +0200 From: peppe@unipg.it (Giuseppe Vitillaro) Message-Id: <9505091524.AA34166@egeo.unipg.it> Subject: Re: 950412-SNAP on a Plato P90 with Adaptec 2940 To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 17:24:41 +0200 (MDT) In-Reply-To: <199505082216.PAA15041@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at May 8, 95 03:16:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1307 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Julian Elischer: > the intel PLATO is OK but there are problems... > > The problem is not "completely" solved. What I did try at the end is to use all the "new" aic7* files that drive the Adaptec 2940 with the "old" 950412-SNAP kernel. Now the things work, but I discovered, what, probabilly, is the problem with the Intel Plato Board. The new version of the aic7* files in -current showed me that the Intel Plato is using "edge-triggered" interrupts by default on PCI, instead of "level-sensitive". The Plato's BIOS initialize the card that way. I recently posted to freebsd.msc and linux.hardaware about that, but withous any new answer. There was also some post in the freebsd hackers mailing list about that. Furthermore this doesn't explain why the old 1542CF ISA controller seems to have a related problem (I cannot test it anymore, I haven't it on my hand now). Just to finish -current aic7xxx.c show me that the card 2940 is using edge-triggered IRQ. Should I set the PCI_EDGE_INT pci option to compile my kernel for this MB? What would be the performance penalization in this case? Does you would suggest to buy the Plato? Or would be better an ASUS or the new Intel Zappa? Does any way to set the IRQ to level-sensitive exist around? Thanks, Peppe. -- Giuseppe Vitillaro From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 11:04:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA21034 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:04:36 -0700 Received: from nak.berkeley.edu (nak.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.136.21]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA21028 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:04:35 -0700 Received: from olac.Berkeley.EDU by nak.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.40) id LAA29893; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:04:34 -0700 Received: by olac.Berkeley.EDU (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03912; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:02:26 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 11:02:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik A. Pearson" X-Sender: epearson@olac To: Terry Lambert Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 In-Reply-To: <9505091738.AA08176@cs.weber.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 2409 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 May 1995, Terry Lambert wrote: > > However, last night I was poking around the BSD Web Page for information > > on this problem, and ran into your suggestion, as put forth in the usenet > > archives by Sean Kelly (12/28/94). However, after trying this there was no > > discernable improvement -- I tried all available irqs on the card with the > > matching irq on the card -- the io address is fine too since the probe > > reveals the "version information is 0 M 2" etc. message. > > > > Some of the responses to the usenet threads indicated that this solution > > may not work. Have you found that this actually works? Are there other > > settings on the card or driver that should be changed? Should the DMA > > channel on the card be set to 1, 3, or none? > > I didn't realize from your message that this was an EIDE CDROM drive. Oops, sorry if I gave the wrong impression, it is the lu002 with an 8-bit dedicated interface card, w/ jumpers for i/o address, irq, and DMA channel. The unit was sold as a BMR 6800 (or something like that). > Soren is currently working on a driver for the 2.1 release (it may be > in 2.0.5 if he tries to suprise people). IDE CDROM drives are really > SCSI drives with a slow serial interface for shoving SCSI commands down, > and should be fairly easy to support, but might require some SCSI > hacking as well to allow code reuse. I'd expect that that's why the > driver isn't finished yet. > > You *can* install by copying the files to your DOS partition and > then mounting the DOS partition from BSD to run the install. You will > have a slight problem with X this way because of the long names they > used. This is fixable using the checksum file as a renaming guide > (after you copy the files from the DOS to the BSD file system). Thanks. I may try this, although I don't really have much space on the HD to set up a large enough DOS partition. I suppose could also install over the net, but I bought the CDROM to save the hassle of tearing apart a computer at work to install the drive -- and don't know what problems will ensue from installing on one machine and then switching the drive to another (tried it once with a SNAP, and it didn't quite work). If Sean can get the fixed boot.flp available, that might just solve the problem. Otherwise, it may be off the the store for a little bit of shopping (oh, noooooooooo). Erik Pearson From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 11:16:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA21246 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:16:56 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA21239 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:16:54 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA08176; Tue, 9 May 95 11:38:51 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505091738.AA08176@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 To: epearson@olac.berkeley.edu (Erik A. Pearson) Date: Tue, 9 May 95 11:38:50 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Erik A. Pearson" at May 9, 95 08:08:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > However, last night I was poking around the BSD Web Page for information > on this problem, and ran into your suggestion, as put forth in the usenet > archives by Sean Kelly (12/28/94). However, after trying this there was no > discernable improvement -- I tried all available irqs on the card with the > matching irq on the card -- the io address is fine too since the probe > reveals the "version information is 0 M 2" etc. message. > > Some of the responses to the usenet threads indicated that this solution > may not work. Have you found that this actually works? Are there other > settings on the card or driver that should be changed? Should the DMA > channel on the card be set to 1, 3, or none? I didn't realize from your message that this was an EIDE CDROM drive. Soren is currently working on a driver for the 2.1 release (it may be in 2.0.5 if he tries to suprise people). IDE CDROM drives are really SCSI drives with a slow serial interface for shoving SCSI commands down, and should be fairly easy to support, but might require some SCSI hacking as well to allow code reuse. I'd expect that that's why the driver isn't finished yet. You *can* install by copying the files to your DOS partition and then mounting the DOS partition from BSD to run the install. You will have a slight problem with X this way because of the long names they used. This is fixable using the checksum file as a renaming guide (after you copy the files from the DOS to the BSD file system). Hope this helps. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 12:30:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA23733 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 12:30:32 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA23727 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 12:30:25 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA09278; Wed, 10 May 1995 03:30:26 +0800 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 03:30:25 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Terry Lambert cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vt100 In-Reply-To: <9505091719.AA05214@cs.weber.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 May 1995, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Runs just fine with 50 lines here. I can't think of anything I > > use day-to-day that insists on 24 lines... > > LSE. EDT. TPU. VAXWorks. VAX BASIC. Any software with hard coded > ideas about what a VT100 is (since a VT100 *by definition* has 24 lines). What? What? What? What? What? I don't use any of those on a day-to-day basis. ;-) All the stuff Joe Average User encounters (more, less, pine, elm, tin, trn, nn, vi, pico, joe, emacs, irc, lynx, etc.) function well enough with VT-100 emulation extended to a taller screen height. I think this was all the original poster wanted to know. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 12:59:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA24273 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 12:59:38 -0700 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA24263 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 12:59:14 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA14027 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 15:59:11 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id PAA09333; Tue, 9 May 1995 15:59:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 15:59:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Zip drives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone tried out the Iomega Zip drives? I have a Adaptec 2842, will that drive one around the block? Are there any gotcha's about mounting or umounting, other than what I'd use for, say, a floppy? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 13:15:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA24578 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:15:11 -0700 Received: from cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu (root@cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu [128.173.43.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA24571 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:15:05 -0700 Received: (kmitch@localhost) by cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu (8.6.11/8.6.5) id QAA15004; Tue, 9 May 1995 16:11:26 -0400 From: Keith Mitchell Message-Id: <199505092011.QAA15004@cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu> Subject: Best Motif Distribution??? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 16:11:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 443 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what the best Motif Distribution is for FreeBSD 2.0/2.1??? I want to learn Motif, but I want to go ahead and get a good distribution of it. -- Keith Mitchell | The real danger is not that computers will Chesapeake/Blacksburg VA | begin to think like men, but that men will kmitch@infi.net | begin to think like computers. kmitch@csugrad.cs.vt.edu | -- Sydney J. Harris From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 13:42:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA25478 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:42:40 -0700 Received: from IndyNet (root@indynet.indy.net [199.3.65.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA25471 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:42:37 -0700 Received: from (indy2.indy.net) by IndyNet with SMTP id AA09522 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 9 May 1995 15:41:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 15:41:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199505092041.AA09522@IndyNet> X-Sender: otis@indynet.indy.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: otis@indy.net (Shane) Subject: help X-Mailer: Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Recently I've downloaded ver 2.0 freebsd. I've succesfully installed the floppy and cpio. I'm now trying to install the bindist. My problem is that freebsd won't allow me to communicate with my modem in order to install bindist via the net. what do I need to do exactly in order to finish installation? I am using a 486 dx 266 w/ dos partition. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 17:26:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA01063 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 17:26:04 -0700 Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA01057 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 17:26:03 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP id QQypav17371; Tue, 9 May 1995 20:25:59 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA20199 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 9 May 1995 19:25:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 19:25:59 -0500 From: Don Dunbar Message-Id: <199505100025.AA20199@ipxpress.aws.waii.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: tia Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk how do you setup freebsd to work with tia? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 17:39:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA01486 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 17:39:19 -0700 Received: from aries.ai.net (ai.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA01473 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 17:39:17 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id UAA04419; Tue, 9 May 1995 20:36:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 20:36:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: PPP serving with FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone set it up to work where FreeBSD is actually doing the PPP serving instead of a terminal server? I have slip serving working a little differently from the faq because I wanted my users to be able to change their slip login password [easily]. pppd runs differently and doesn't care much for users trying to setup dynamic connections, and by configuring it I don't want to open up the system's security. [With sliplogin, I disabled it getting passed ANY parameters so when a user runs sliplogin, they are using *only* their userid] I was debating on whether to configure pppd to do the same. Any ideas, suggestions, experiences, etc? Thanks, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 20:24:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA06618 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 20:24:57 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA06612 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 20:24:55 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA09494; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:22:39 -0500 Message-Id: <9505100322.AA09494@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 22:22:39 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: peppe@unipg.it, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 950412-SNAP on a Plato P90 with Adaptec 2940 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >The problem is not "completely" solved. > >What I did try at the end is to use all the "new" >aic7* files that drive the Adaptec 2940 with the >"old" 950412-SNAP kernel. Now the things work, >but I discovered, what, probabilly, is the problem >with the Intel Plato Board. > >The new version of the aic7* files in -current >showed me that the Intel Plato is using "edge-triggered" >interrupts by default on PCI, instead of "level-sensitive". >The Plato's BIOS initialize the card that way. Not correct. The -current aic7xxx drivers show that message for the benefit of the aic7770-based cards (aha274x and aha284x). For these cards, the interrupt trigger type is meaningful. The interrupt trigger type is taken from the HCNTRL register which is on the same location for both chips (7770 and 7870), but the interrupt trigger type bit in HCNTRL is defined as a spare R/W bit with no current hardware assignment for the 7870. For the 7770 it does have meaning. So the message your seeing regarding the interrupt type is not correct. Well, you could still be using edge triggered interrupts, but I doubt anything would work. I have a 2940W and run both Linux and FreeBSD on it. The FLinux driver always assigns a 1 to this bit which is interpreted as Level-sensitieve interrupts. The FreeBSD driver leaves the bit unchanged (0) and interprets it as Edge-triggered. What both drivers should do is ignore the bit for the case of the 7870 (2940 cards) chip and not display any message regarding interrupt trigger settings. This is just a nit and does not affect the performance of the driver in any way. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 20:37:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA06886 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 20:37:08 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA06880 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 20:37:06 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA09499; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:34:52 -0500 Message-Id: <9505100334.AA09499@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 22:34:52 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: kmitch@csugrad.cs.vt.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Best Motif Distribution??? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Does anyone know what the best Motif Distribution is for FreeBSD 2.0/2.1??? >I want to learn Motif, but I want to go ahead and get a good distribution >of it. I wanted to know pretty much the same question and went searching the archives and FAQs. I came across what seemed like an old FAQ-type thing saying that SWiM had a Motif (1.2 I think) for FreeBSD 1.X. It was only available at the ACC Bookstore in Westport CT. Well, I called and they had Motif 2.0 for FreeBSD 2.X. I have had it installed for a little over a month now with no problems. I've been busy playing around with drivers somewhat and haven't had a lot of time for doing as much work (Motif development) with it as I'd like. But I did set it up and compile a few things on it. Like xmcd (pretty awesome) and nedit (great editor). I am running the February snapshot (2.0.2?) and only had to change a couple of things to get both to compile cleanly. I did have a problem with the install script that came with SWiM and a few other little things that I had to do to get it installed properly. But I did keep a log and developed a little help/readme file for it. I was going to send this to Jordan but never got around to it. If you do end up getting SWiM ($149) and want my little help file, just shoot me some email. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 21:02:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA07352 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 21:02:27 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA07346 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 21:02:26 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA019428543; Tue, 9 May 1995 21:02:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199505100402.AA019428543@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA27099; Wed, 10 May 1995 14:02:20 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: getting NFS stats To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 10 May 95 14:02:20 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, Here is the situation, I am exporintg an MSDOS fs from a PC to FreeBSD box, and wonder if there is anyway of getting the DOS PC's filesystem stats, such as total disk space, free disk space etc. DOS PC is running pcnfsd. The NFS RFC says that what I want it procedure 17 : union statfsres (stat status) { case NFS_OK: struct { unsigned tsize; unsigned bsize; unsigned blocks; unsigned bfree; unsigned bavail; } info; default: void; }; statfsres NFSPROC_STATFS( fhandle ) = 17; fhandle is : typedef opaque fhandle[FHSIZE]; The "fhandle" is the file handle passed between the server and the client. All file operations are done using file handles to refer to a file or directory. The file handle can contain whatever information the server needs to distinguish an individual file. Now, if I were to send RPC 17 to the DOS pcnfsd, what will I define this "fhandle" to be ? Alternatively, I believe there are implementations on FreeBSD which does what I want, if so, can someone point me to the right source ? Thanks in advance. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 21:59:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA08712 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 21:59:36 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA08706 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 21:59:34 -0700 From: AlexAdroog@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA044541942; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:59:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 00:59:02 -0400 Message-Id: <950510005457_113321871@aol.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: MSDOS Partition Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently insatallled FreeBSD v2.0 I have a maxtor 7546 AT drive on a generic vlb conroller. Originally i had all the available space allocated for PCDOS. Through the FreeBSD boot process, i edited that slice and changed it to 250 megs for PCDOS. I also allocated about 270 to FreeBSD. I loaded the Bindist's through the dos mount and everything went hunky dorry. Now when i am in dos (through an active partition after a shutdown and I do a diskspace check it is showing 370 +- megs allocated for dos (i have the rest of dos taken up by programs). What gives? should not my dos partition have reduced and show maybe 170 or so megs? Also, the dos partion does not mount at startup. I get a message somewhat like this... msdos: stat /dos invalid file (etc). maybe the controller? anybody have any experiance with this or suggestions? ThanX in advance! Timothy From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 22:32:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA09715 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:32:10 -0700 Received: from silicon.csci.csusb.edu (silicon.csci.csusb.edu [139.182.38.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA09709 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:32:09 -0700 Received: from orion.csci.csusb.edu by silicon.csci.csusb.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02386; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:37:29 +0800 Received: by orion.csci.csusb.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17968; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:31:16 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 22:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal Westfall To: "Erik A. Pearson" Cc: Terry Lambert , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1305 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > may not work. Have you found that this actually works? Are there other > > > settings on the card or driver that should be changed? Should the DMA > > > channel on the card be set to 1, 3, or none? > > > > I didn't realize from your message that this was an EIDE CDROM drive. > > Oops, sorry if I gave the wrong impression, it is the lu002 with an 8-bit > dedicated interface card, w/ jumpers for i/o address, irq, and DMA > channel. The unit was sold as a BMR 6800 (or something like that). Unfortunately I think it is the old interface card that is the problem. I have a Pinnacle Micro single speed cdrom which uses the same 8 bit interface as yours. (no upper interrupts, dma on 1 or 3). I've never gotten it to work quite right with FreeBSD. It constantly spews forth read errors, timeout errors, and everything else. Not to mention it is extremely slow compared to using it under dos. And now I just discovered a couple of days ago that Win95 doesn't much like it either. Neither does Linux. So I'm looking to get a new one soon, probably SCSI. BTW, it is identified by the probe as LU002. Neal Westfall nwestfal@csci.csusb.edu FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #0: Wed May 3 11:08:38 PDT 1995 root@darkside.csci.csusb.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/DARKSIDE From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 23:16:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA10556 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 23:16:14 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA10550 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 23:16:13 -0700 Received: from wsantee.oz.net by emerald.oz.net via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id AA20236; Tue, 9 May 95 23:14:12 -0700 Received: (from wsantee@localhost) by wsantee.oz.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA06323 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 May 1995 23:12:55 -0700 From: Wes Santee Message-Id: <199505100612.XAA06323@wsantee.oz.net> Subject: Self-professed sendmail weenie needs help To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 23:12:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1140 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I thought I had this problem licked, but it looks like I've failed miserably. Earlier today Rod Grimes reported that my return address wasn't tacking on the FQDN for my address when sending mail out. After further inspection, I noticed that this was only happening when my PPP (and therefore DNS) link wasn't up. Taking Rod's advice, I looked in my /etc/hosts file and make sure that my hosts entry listed the FQDN of the host first, i.e.: 204.118.240.207 wsantee.oz.net wsantee I thought that solved the problem, but when I got home from work and did some tests that allowed me to bring the link down, the same thing happened when sending mail. More specifically, the From: header ends up looking like this: From: Wes Santee instead of: From: Wes Santee Does anybody know if there is an easy way of telling sendmail not to chop off my domain when it can't access the DNS link? If I have to do any sendmail hacking, what ruleset would munge the headers as above so I can fix it? I must admit that this is the weakest link in my UNIX knowledge so any help would be appriciated. Cheers, -Wes From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 23:26:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA10750 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 23:26:22 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA10743 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 23:26:21 -0700 From: AlexAdroog@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA154237149; Wed, 10 May 1995 02:25:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 02:25:49 -0400 Message-Id: <950510022547_113396705@aol.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Adding manpages Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have completed the install process and now, later, wish to install the manpages. How would i go about doing this? Timothy From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 23:56:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA11332 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 1995 23:56:12 -0700 Received: from ns.moran.com (root@ns.moran.com [204.97.213.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA11326 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 23:56:10 -0700 Received: from dirac (ubppp-02.ppp-net.buffalo.edu [128.205.222.66]) by ns.moran.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA10074 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 02:57:41 -0400 From: cihat@ns.moran.com (Cihat Ozhasoglu) Message-Id: <9505100258.ZM158@dirac> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 02:58:09 -0400 X-Mailer: ZM-Win (3.2.1 11Sep94) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Internet mail through PPP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have recently installed FreeBSD SNAP-041295 and would like to set it up to receive mail through PPP connection. Do I need a pop3 client like I do in windows or not :-)? And can I use xbiff for PPP mail notification? If there is a pop3 client where can I obtain it? Also, how can I change the name of my machine. I still have the default name "myname.mymachine.mydomain" (or something close to this) How would I set this name up so that I will be able to receive PPP mail both thru dynamic and static IP's. And, can I use freeBSD to establish 2 PPP connectiosn thru 2 modems simultaneously? I managed to have both modems (thru kermit) work when using 2 shell accounts. However, when I try to establish connection thru PPP, the second (last) connection drops right after I issue pppd /dev/cuaax 38400 (or whatever). I get an error saying the "device not configured" Is this a limitation of FreeBSD or is it just my setup? Thanks in advance. -- Cihat Ozhasoglu Department of Physics 301 Fronczak Hall University at Buffalo Buffalo, NY 14260-1500 e-mail: ozhas-c@acsu.buffalo.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 00:28:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA11705 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:28:14 -0700 Received: from estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (estienne.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.42.147]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA11699 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:28:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA17435; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:27:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199505100727.AAA17435@estienne.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: estienne.cs.berkeley.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Daniel M. Eischen" cc: peppe@unipg.it, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 950412-SNAP on a Plato P90 with Adaptec 2940 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 May 1995 22:22:39 CDT." <9505100322.AA09494@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 00:27:34 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >>The problem is not "completely" solved. >> >>What I did try at the end is to use all the "new" >>aic7* files that drive the Adaptec 2940 with the >>"old" 950412-SNAP kernel. Now the things work, >>but I discovered, what, probabilly, is the problem >>with the Intel Plato Board. >> >>The new version of the aic7* files in -current >>showed me that the Intel Plato is using "edge-triggered" >>interrupts by default on PCI, instead of "level-sensitive". >>The Plato's BIOS initialize the card that way. > >Not correct. The -current aic7xxx drivers show that message for the benefit >of the aic7770-based cards (aha274x and aha284x). For these cards, the interr >upt >trigger type is meaningful. The interrupt trigger type is taken from the >HCNTRL register which is on the same location for both chips (7770 and 7870), >but the interrupt trigger type bit in HCNTRL is defined as a spare R/W bit >with no current hardware assignment for the 7870. For the 7770 it does have >meaning. So the message your seeing regarding the interrupt type is not >correct. Well, you could still be using edge triggered interrupts, but I >doubt anything would work. > >I have a 2940W and run both Linux and FreeBSD on it. The FLinux driver >always assigns a 1 to this bit which is interpreted as Level-sensitieve >interrupts. The FreeBSD driver leaves the bit unchanged (0) and interprets >it as Edge-triggered. What both drivers should do is ignore the bit >for the case of the 7870 (2940 cards) chip and not display any message >regarding interrupt trigger settings. > >This is just a nit and does not affect the performance of the driver in >any way. > >Dan Eischen >deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org I mentioned the exact same thing to you about two months ago (that the bit was undefined for the aic7870). When I told you, you responded that it did make a difference because you tried to set it to 0 on your system and it hung. If the Data Book is really correct in this regard, I'll kill the message for the aic7870 (I don't have a card right now to test it on). -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 01:20:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA12410 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 01:20:31 -0700 Received: from inf.ethz.ch (root@neptune.ethz.ch [129.132.101.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA12404 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 01:20:26 -0700 Received: from tau.inf.ethz.ch (arquint@tau.inf.ethz.ch [129.132.101.47]) by inf.ethz.ch (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA03570 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:20:22 +0200 Received: from localhost (arquint@localhost) by tau.inf.ethz.ch (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA04889 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:20:19 +0200 Message-Id: <199505100820.KAA04889@tau.inf.ethz.ch> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Ports of FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:20:18 +0200 From: Caspar Arquint Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I wonder what the intention about porting of FreeBSD is. Currently there are only 386/486's supported - right? Is there maybe an intention like "FreeBSD only supports 386/486" ? Or are there any other plans to support Pentium or even to port to PowerPC? Sure FreeBSD will already run on a Pentium machine but this CPU has some more feature than a 486 or even a 386 has, which if supported by the OS directly may make a machine even more faster...;-) Thanks for any hints. --- Caspar Arquint From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 02:51:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA14584 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 02:51:42 -0700 Received: from oxmail2.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA14578 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 02:51:37 -0700 Received: from vax.ox.ac.uk by oxmail2.ox.ac.uk. with SMTP (PP) id <22969-0@oxmail2.ox.ac.uk.>; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:51:19 +0100 Received: from 163.1.67.21 by vax.ox.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:50:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:50:44 +0100 To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com From: marques@vax.ox.ac.uk (Jose Marques) Subject: System crash due to "file table full" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Last night my system stopped responding because the file table became full. Can anybody advise me how I can increase the size of the file table if possible. -- Jose Marques From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 04:28:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA17537 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 04:28:20 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA17528 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 04:27:33 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10490; Wed, 10 May 1995 14:27:44 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11004; Wed, 10 May 1995 14:26:11 +0300 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 14:26:11 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9505101126.AA11004@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, arquint@inf.ethz.ch Subject: Re: Ports of FreeBSD X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Or are there any other plans to support Pentium or even to port > to PowerPC? Sure FreeBSD will already run on a Pentium machine but > this CPU has some more feature than a 486 or even a 386 has, which > if supported by the OS directly may make a machine even more faster...;-) FreeBSD runs on Pentium machines. And work is in progress to support multiple-pentium machines. Don't know about PowerPC. I've heard also something about the MC680x0 and Sparc ports being developed. NetBSD runs on a variety of architectures. Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 05:56:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA19290 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 05:56:29 -0700 Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA19284 ; Wed, 10 May 1995 05:56:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id FAA11473 ; Wed, 10 May 1995 05:56:14 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Caspar Arquint cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, platforms@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ports of FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 May 1995 10:20:18 +0200." <199505100820.KAA04889@tau.inf.ethz.ch> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 05:56:13 -0700 Message-ID: <11472.800110573@westhill.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199505100820.KAA04889@tau.inf.ethz.ch>, Caspar Arquint writes: >I wonder what the intention about porting of FreeBSD is. >Currently there are only 386/486's supported - right? Not quite - see below... >Is there maybe an intention like "FreeBSD only supports 386/486" ? Not as far as I am aware - in fact, in the past I have been encouraged by several core team members to get another platform supported. >Or are there any other plans to support Pentium or even to port ^^^^^^^ Pardon? I happen to have a Pentium (P5-90) sitting on my desk at work running FreeBSD ... :-) And freefall (aka FreeBSD.ORG) and wcarchive (aka ftp.cdrom.com & ftp.FreeBSD.ORG) are P5's also! So I get the impression that Pentium processors are supported ... :-) >to PowerPC? Sure FreeBSD will already run on a Pentium machine but >this CPU has some more feature than a 486 or even a 386 has, which >if supported by the OS directly may make a machine even more faster...;-) PowerPC? Show me the market for such a port! A high percentage of the PowerPC's in circulation are in Mac's at DTP houses (or art departments, or wherever, where specialised s/w is needed, which isn't available under FreeBSD) ... not much call for FreeBSD there ... And there isn't such a thing as a PowerPC ``PC'' yet AFAIK. P5 features are supported by the OS when it's sensible to do so AFAIK. We haven't yet gone through the kernel trying to bend over backwards to make the P5 run faster, and much of what we could do is up the the GCC optimiser probably (sour laugh is heard in the background) ... Also, there are efforts underway to port to at least 2 other architectures ... (3 if I ever get any spare time (ha ha ha)). Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 06:05:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA19762 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 06:05:07 -0700 Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (root@pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA19745 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 06:04:39 -0700 Received: (from didier@localhost) by zapata.zapata.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA01339 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:23:07 +0200 From: Didier Derny Message-Id: <199505101123.NAA01339@zapata.zapata.com> Subject: X25 Boards To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:23:06 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 120 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Is there any available X25 bvoards for freeBSD 2.X ? Thanks for your helk^, Didider Derny didier@aida.remcomp.fr From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 07:32:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA21726 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 07:32:26 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov ([198.116.2.100]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA21716 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 07:32:23 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA06212; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:30:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:30:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: Chris Shenton Subject: PPP routing question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [I appologize for this rather long message, but I've been beating my head against the wall for some time on this problem and felt that avoid suggestions that duplicate what I've already done I would list out each step I took. :{)] Hi - I'm trying to configure PPP to correctly route a couple of subnets through a FreeBSD box. Basically the network looks something like this: +------+------+ 198.116.75.32 +------+------+ 198.116.75.0 | | +----le0----+ +----ed0----+ | Box A | | Box B | +----ppp----+ +----ppp----+ | | = = | | +-----------+ +----------------+ | | +---pppa--pppb--+ | Router A | +------ed0------+ | +-----+--------+---------------+ 198.116.2 | +----+-----+ | Router B | +-------+--+ | | V Basically what I have is two boxes, Box A (SunOS 4.1.3) and Box B (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) connected to Router A (FreeBSD 2.0 -current supped 5/9/95) which is connected to an Ethernet which connects to Router B (Proteon DNX) which connects to the Internet. There are two Class C network numbers in use: 198.116.2 is the office network, and I also have 198.116.75 available for the remote nets. What we're doing is subnetting the 198.116.75 network and using it for the remote networks so that we don't have to mess with the main office network. Initially I configured this as I would if I was using dedicated routers: Address Netmask Peer Box A le0 198.116.75.33 0xfffffff0 n/a Box A ppp 198.116.75.50 0xfffffff0 198.116.75.49 Box B ed0 198.116.75.1 0xfffffff0 n/a Box B ppp 198.116.75.18 0xfffffff0 198.116.75.17 Router A pppa 198.116.75.49 0xfffffff0 198.116.75.50 Router A pppb 198.116.75.17 0xfffffff0 198.116.75.18 Router A ed0 198.116.2.4 0xffffff00 n/a Router B enet 198.116.2.1 0xffffff00 That is, I subnetted the 198.116.75 network using the upper four bits for the network number and the lower four bits for the node number. I allocated one network number for each Box A Ether, Box A ppp, Box B Ether, and Box B ppp. I realize PPP links can share addresses with the Ethernets, but in this case I chose to give them their own so that I could get SNMP statistics on each interface individually. Also technically RIP routing doesn't allow you to split members of a subnet across another net, so I wanted all the PPP interfaces in the 198.116.75 network block. (I had a similar situation earlier with a Sun workstation (SunOS 4.1.3) acting as Router A using SLIP encapsulation with only Box B present. That worked fine, but I wanted to allow other nets to exist, I wanted to switch to PPP, and the Sun serial ports max out at 38.4Kbs which is Not Good.) The Router B box is listening for announced routes to the 198.116.75 network; that's how it knows where that net is (that is, the only net "hard coded" in the box is 198.116.2 to which it is directly connected.) In order to get the routes announced out, I fired up "routed -s -g" on all the boxes and expected networks in the 198.116.75 group would thus be announced. What actually happens is Router A *ONLY* announces HOST routes for the 198.116.75.{17,18,49,50} hosts. It doesn't announce any of the 198.116.75 networks. Since Router B only listens to network routes (it wants a route to 198.116.75.0) I can get to all the hosts on the 198.116.2.0 net but not beyond. None of the hosts on the 198.116.75.0 net (Box B's Ethernet) can get to anything outside that net. To simplify things the person running Box A disconnected and has not reconnected, so essentially I was able to concentrate on getting things working for Box B only. So far, things I've tried: a Add the 198.116.75.0 network to the /etc/gateways file with subnet mask 255.255.255.240 marked "active". No effect. b Add a static route in Router A's tables for the 198.116.75 network. No effect. c Switch from routed to gated (running RIP). No effect. d Add a static clause to the gated configuration. No effect. e Change the subnet mask on Box B's PPP link (both ends) to 255.255.0.255. That gets a route announced for Box B but does not generate the correct routing tables within Router A so all 198.116.75 networks end up going to Box B instead of being split between Box B and Box A. f Change the point-to-point link between Box B and Router A addressing to Box B ppp = (198.116.75.1->198.116.2.4 0xfffffff0) and Router A ppp = (198.116.2.4->198.116.75.1 0xfffffff0). No effect. When I try to ping 198.116.2.1 (Router B) the RD and TD lights go on almost solidly on the modem and no responses are seen. g Change the above to Box B ppp = (198.116.2.80->198.116.2.4 0xffffff00) and Router A ppp = (198.116.2.4->198.116.2.80 0xffffff00) and add a proxy ARP for 198.116.2.80 to Router A. Box B now can reach the world, but nothing behind it (i.e. the 198.116.75 net) can. I continually monitored the .2 network using tcpdump looking for route information packets during all of these tests. The *only* time a route for the 198.116.75 network was announced was case "e", which allowed nodes on the 198.116.75.0 subnet to be reached but didn't allow nodes on the 198.116.75.32 subnet access. In cases where Router A had a specific PPP interface with an address in the 198.116.75.* range a route for that particular host (not net) WAS generated (these routes appeared in the tables on the other hosts connected to 198.116.2 that run routed.) At the moment the configuration for Router A is: mnewell@sisyphus: netstat -nr Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 198.116.2.1 UGSc 1 220 ed0 127 127.0.0.1 URc 0 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 2 lo0 198.116.2 link#1 UC 0 0 198.116.2.1 0:0:93:48:8:f4 UHLW 1 222 ed0 483 198.116.2.4 0:0:c0:65:98:70 UHLW 1 8 lo0 198.116.2.100 8:0:20:1b:c1:29 UHLW 1 141 ed0 1177 198.116.2.108 8:0:20:19:cc:3d UHLW 0 5 ed0 1177 198.116.75 198.116.75.17 UGc 0 0 ppp0 198.116.75.17 198.116.2.4 UH 2 728 ppp0 224 link#1 UCS 0 0 224.0.0.9 127.0.0.1 UH 0 1 lo0 mnewell@sisyphus: ifconfig -a ed0: flags=8963 mtu 1500 inet 198.116.2.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 198.116.2.255 ether 00:00:c0:65:98:70 lp0: flags=810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=51 mtu 1500 inet 198.116.2.4 --> 198.116.75.17 netmask 0xfffffff0 ppp1: flags=10 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 sl1: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=10 mtu 1500 tun1: flags=10 mtu 1500 mnewell@sisyphus: Note that there IS a route 198.116.75 in the routing table, and it IS out interface ppp0; however even though gated is running this route is not being announced to the 198.116.2 network by Router A. Can someone out there who is (hopefully) running a similar configuration share how they got it to work??? :{) Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 07:52:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA22159 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 07:52:14 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA22149 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 07:52:13 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA172057422; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:50:22 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FB0FD29@mailgate.cmp.com>; Wed, 10 May 95 10:51:37 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: "'.freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: FreeBSD vs. NetBSD Date: Wed, 10 May 95 10:51:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FB0FD29@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 10 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm just curious: What are the main differences between FreeBSD and NetBSD? in which cases it's better to use one or another? I personally like FreeBSD very much but it's would be very interesting to hear the opinion of people who know both systems. Thanks. P.S. I know NetBSD runs on variety of platforms. -Serge From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 08:18:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA23337 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:18:03 -0700 Received: from nak.berkeley.edu (nak.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.136.21]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23330 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:18:02 -0700 Received: from olac.Berkeley.EDU by nak.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.40) id IAA06263; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:17:59 -0700 Received: by olac.Berkeley.EDU (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08472; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:15:51 +0800 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 08:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik A. Pearson" X-Sender: epearson@olac To: Neal Westfall Cc: Terry Lambert , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 & mitsumi lu002 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1749 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 May 1995, Neal Westfall wrote: > > > > may not work. Have you found that this actually works? Are there other > > > > settings on the card or driver that should be changed? Should the DMA > > > > channel on the card be set to 1, 3, or none? > > > > > > I didn't realize from your message that this was an EIDE CDROM drive. > > > > Oops, sorry if I gave the wrong impression, it is the lu002 with an 8-bit > > dedicated interface card, w/ jumpers for i/o address, irq, and DMA > > channel. The unit was sold as a BMR 6800 (or something like that). Actually, I should have said "BSR 6800MX". > > Unfortunately I think it is the old interface card that is the problem. > I have a Pinnacle Micro single speed cdrom which uses the same 8 bit > interface as yours. (no upper interrupts, dma on 1 or 3). I've never > gotten it to work quite right with FreeBSD. It constantly spews > forth read errors, timeout errors, and everything else. Not to mention > it is extremely slow compared to using it under dos. And now I just > discovered a couple of days ago that Win95 doesn't much like it either. > Neither does Linux. So I'm looking to get a new one soon, probably > SCSI. BTW, it is identified by the probe as LU002. Thanks for another voice, Neal. The latest boot disk for the mitsumi drive does not work. It seems to be improved, if increased disk activity is an improvement, but there are still plenty of timeouts -- to many for the install to handle. The drive is now identified as an lu002. Oh well -- now the question of the day is: what is the cheapest cd-rom I can get (that works w/FreeBSD), either a newer Mitsumi or a SCSI (if I can get the Future Domain TMC830 recogized by FreeBSD!)?? Thanks again, Erik. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 08:35:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA23940 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:35:33 -0700 Received: from nak.berkeley.edu (nak.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.136.21]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23934 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:35:32 -0700 Received: from olac.Berkeley.EDU by nak.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.40) id IAA07642; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:35:31 -0700 Received: by olac.Berkeley.EDU (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08562; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:33:23 +0800 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 08:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik A. Pearson" X-Sender: epearson@olac To: Sean Kelly Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: boot floppy image with fixed mcd driver In-Reply-To: <9505092041.AA18774@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1193 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean, On Tue, 9 May 1995, Sean Kelly wrote: > The fixed boot.flp is available on ftp.freebsd.org in the file > > /pub/FreeBSD/incoming/boot-with-fixed-mcd-driver.gz > > Uncompress it and make a boot floppy from it like you did with the > original boot.flp. And good luck, because according to this latest > message from Terry Lambert, it might not help you: Unfortunately, this did not work. Oh, well. At this point I see two paths: 1. I've got a Future Domain TMC830 SCSI card and a drive for it -- which I could attach a SCSI drive to. However, FreeBSD doesn't seem to be able to see the drive. The docs say that FreeBSD is okay for the FD TMC8xx interface. Any clues? 2. Get a new Mitsumi drive (e.g. FX400, etc.). Do all the newer mitsumi drives work with FreeBSD? A big motivation is to use the stuff I have, since I'm just about to buy a new machine for windows programming -- and the new one is going to get all the whizzz-bang stuff. The FreeBSD machine doesn't need to be super-fast, since it will be used for perl programming, as a partner for network programming on the windows machine, and for general unix fun. (I wish it were the other way around!) Thanks, Erik. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 08:47:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24165 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:47:41 -0700 Received: from ibmPCUG.CO.UK (mmdf@Alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.71]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA24158 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:47:40 -0700 From: jake@ibmPCUG.CO.UK Received: from kate.ibmpcug.co.uk by alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id aa06592; 10 May 95 16:47 BST Subject: select and mmap To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:47:02 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 590 Message-ID: <9505101647.aa12433@kate.ibmpcug.co.uk> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, 2 questions.. Will mmap be fixed in time for 2.0.5? :-) Just that it would be nice for INN. A related issue is that I use nntplink3.3pl2, and aside from having to stick exit(1) in the mmap section of "configure" :-) the problem seems to be that nntplink reports that select() is broken! 950210 has a properly broken mmap ie doesn't lock out large chunks of filesystem, and the select seems to work. What happened? Regards -- Jake Dias jake@ibmpcug.co.uk ...!ibmpcug!jake My PGP Key? - finger jake@ibmpcug.co.uk or email with Subject: get pgp key From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 08:51:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24262 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:51:01 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA24152 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:47:16 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-7) id AA13199; Wed, 10 May 95 17:46:52 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id RAA13407; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:58:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199505101558.RAA13407@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: System crash due to "file table full" To: marques@vax.ox.ac.uk (Jose Marques) Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 17:58:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) In-Reply-To: from "Jose Marques" at May 10, 95 10:50:44 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 685 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Last night my system stopped responding because the file table became > full. Can anybody advise me how I can increase the size of the file > table if possible. Happened to me, too. In the kernel config file increase maxusers to some higher value, e.g. 20, and build a new kernel. What does sysctl kern.maxfiles sysctl kern.maxfilesperproc yield? > > -- > Jose Marques > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.0-BUILT-19950507 FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-1995 0507 #0: Sun May 7 18:08:05 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.d e:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 08:57:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24378 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:57:33 -0700 Received: from servo.ipsilon.com (servo.ipsilon.COM [204.160.240.205]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA24372 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:57:32 -0700 Received: from [204.160.240.224] (acacia.Ipsilon.COM [204.160.240.224]) by servo.ipsilon.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA06365; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:55:51 -0700 X-Sender: hinden@mailhost.ipsilon.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 08:57:11 -0700 To: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) From: hinden@ipsilon.com (Bob Hinden) Subject: Re: Ports of FreeBSD Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tanel, >FreeBSD runs on Pentium machines. And work is in progress to support >multiple-pentium machines. Could you or someone else describe the work to support MP machines. Thanks, Bob From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 09:03:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA24487 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:03:45 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA24481 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:03:44 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA11641; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:01:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 12:01:00 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9505101601.AA11641@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: M C Wong Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Subject: getting NFS stats In-Reply-To: <199505100402.AA019428543@hp.com> References: <199505100402.AA019428543@hp.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Now, if I were to send RPC 17 to the DOS pcnfsd, what will I define this > "fhandle" to be ? Whatever the mount protocol gave you when you asked it for the handle in preparation to mounting. Alternatively, use the getfh() system call to get a file handle. Alternatively, use the `statfs' system call when the filesystem is mounted, or its client, the `df' command. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 09:07:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA24600 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:07:25 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA24590 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:07:14 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11394; Wed, 10 May 1995 19:07:18 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11226; Wed, 10 May 1995 19:05:39 +0300 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 19:05:39 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9505101605.AA11226@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee, hinden@ipsilon.com Subject: Re: Ports of FreeBSD Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Tanel, > > >FreeBSD runs on Pentium machines. And work is in progress to support > >multiple-pentium machines. > > Could you or someone else describe the work to support MP machines. Sorry, I don't know much about it. I heard this from Paul Richards (paul@freebsd.org). He said that the goal of this project is to get more computing power out of a MP machine (not using it as a file server where one cpu backs up the other). Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 09:14:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA24765 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:14:14 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA24757 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:14:07 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-7) id AA13403; Wed, 10 May 95 18:13:42 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id SAA13554; Wed, 10 May 1995 18:25:08 +0200 Message-Id: <199505101625.SAA13554@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: System crash due to "file table full" To: marques@vax.ox.ac.uk (Jose Marques) Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 18:25:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) In-Reply-To: from "Jose Marques" at May 10, 95 05:00:56 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 763 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >Happened to me, too. In the kernel config file increase maxusers to some > >higher value, e.g. 20, and build a new kernel. > > > >What does sysctl kern.maxfiles > > sysctl kern.maxfilesperproc > >yield? > > Sorry, I forgot to mention that I was running FreeBSD 1.5.1.1R Oh. I would expect increasing maxusers helps as well under 1.1.5.1R. I don't know if there is a simple way to inquire the kernel parameters, though. > > > > > -- > Jose Marques > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.0-BUILT-19950507 FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-1995 0507 #0: Sun May 7 18:08:05 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.d e:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 09:39:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA25360 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:39:15 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA25354 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:39:12 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA12766 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 18:39:07 +0200 Message-Id: <199505101639.SAA12766@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: WD disk (AC 31000) settings Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 18:39:04 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm trying to install FreeBSD (last snapshot) on a AC 31000 disk (200MB for dos, ~800MB for FreeBSD). The geometry is 2100 cyl, 16 heads and 63 sectors, and translated to 525 cyl, 64 heads and 63 sectors. FreeBSD is saying that it can not handle 64 heads and restore default value (16). When newfs'ing first partition, there are a lot of errors displayed in the primary screen: timeouts. wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 71679 ... Thanks for any help. -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 09:51:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA25747 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:51:03 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.wellsfargo.com (gatekeeper.wellsfargo.com [192.246.108.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA25740 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:51:02 -0700 Received: by gatekeeper.wellsfargo.com; id AA04634; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:51:01 -0700 Received: from msm1.WellsFargo.COM (msm1.wellsfargo.com [151.151.24.156]) by unixm1.wellsfargo.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA25897 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:50:37 -0700 Received: by msm1.WellsFargo.COM with Microsoft Mail id <2FB0EF66@msm1.WellsFargo.COM>; Wed, 10 May 95 09:52:54 PDT From: "Tulchinsky, Steven" To: bsd Subject: HP Deskjet Date: Wed, 10 May 95 09:52:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FB0EF66@msm1.WellsFargo.COM> Encoding: 6 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was trying to use several different filters with my HP Deskjet 540 but nothing seems to work. If anybody have the same printer could you email your printcap entry and filter. Please! Steven. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 09:55:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA25962 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:55:59 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA25947 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:55:46 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-7) id AA14300; Wed, 10 May 95 18:53:35 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id TAA13680 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 10 May 1995 19:04:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 19:04:59 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199505101704.TAA13680@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: dialin (2.0-current) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I upgraded a FreeBSD 1.1.5.1R machine to 2.0-current and at the same time I changed my ttys entry from D19200 to std.38400. As a result I currently cannot dialin from outside. I can connect internally via kermit to the modem (an internal FAX/V.42bis modem) at 57600 bd and talk to it. But when I connect from outside I got strange garbage. Sometimes a never ending stream of random looking garbage, sometimes something that looked like a login prompt at the wrong baud rate. Today I tried to connect via kermit again to the modem (internally) and got a never ending stream of 0x7f characters (delta symbol in PC character set). I have already set the modem to run at fixed speed on the link between the com port and the modem while it should negotiate the speed on the line. That was working before anyway and I didn't change the modem settings during the upgrade. I added a line modem 0 to my rc.serial also to no avail. Any clues? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.0-BUILT-19950507 FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-1995 0507 #0: Sun May 7 18:08:05 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.d e:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 10:47:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA27451 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:47:28 -0700 Received: from eureka.gdl.iteso.mx (eureka.gdl.iteso.mx [148.201.131.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA27443 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:47:23 -0700 Received: (from cacho@localhost) by eureka.gdl.iteso.mx (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA13911; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:47:34 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 11:47:34 -0600 (CST) From: Hector Gonzalez Jaime To: Don Dunbar cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tia In-Reply-To: <199505100025.AA20199@ipxpress.aws.waii.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You don't need to, use Troy's winsockets (ver 1.4, 1.3 didn't work with FreeBSD, but 1.4 works wonderfully) You just need to build the distribution for FreeBSD (a build script comes with the distribution, no questions asked) drop it where you like, and copy the windoze side of the distribution in your windows directory. It works ok with netscape, winqvtnet, and pegasus mail as a pop3 client. On Tue, 9 May 1995, Don Dunbar wrote: > how do you setup freebsd to work with tia? > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 11:21:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA29095 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:21:48 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA29086 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:21:45 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA26114; Wed, 10 May 95 12:15:04 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505101815.AA26114@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Ports of FreeBSD To: arquint@inf.ethz.ch (Caspar Arquint) Date: Wed, 10 May 95 12:15:03 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505100820.KAA04889@tau.inf.ethz.ch> from "Caspar Arquint" at May 10, 95 10:20:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I wonder what the intention about porting of FreeBSD is. > Currently there are only 386/486's supported - right? > Is there maybe an intention like "FreeBSD only supports 386/486" ? > > Or are there any other plans to support Pentium or even to port > to PowerPC? Sure FreeBSD will already run on a Pentium machine but > this CPU has some more feature than a 486 or even a 386 has, which > if supported by the OS directly may make a machine even more faster...;-) If you can get the hardware documentation for the PowerPC machines out of Apple, or you can convince IBM to open their *warehouses* full of PCI based PC class PPC machines that they haven't got WARP running on to their satisfaction (and pry hardware docs out of them), or if you can find a third party that builds a board such that the total system is in the $2000-$3000 range (like the IBM and Apple systems) and get docs from them... then I will buy a machine the same business day that I get the documentation, I will pay FedEx charges to get it to me as fast as possible on top of the default charges, and I will start work the day the machine arrives. I've had copies of the PReP standard since the 2nd day after it was available up to the point where Apple decided they could make more money in a closed hardware market and threw PReP out the window in favor of CHRP (which is about as useful as a documented hardware standard as POSIX is as an ABI). Call it starting work 4 days after I get the docs (same day if it's Apple; they have dealers here in town with machines in stock), call it booting for single user mode in 1 man-month (1-2 elapsed months; I have a day job and other "outside" interests). It is absolutely imperitive that the documentation include an available ethernet option -- I expect the first stage of the port to be diskless, since it's less work. Other options include Alpha, which is very near my price point these days, PCMCIA work (there are several laptops at 800x600, but they are way above my price point for VGA resoloution -- I'd go $4000 for a 1024x768, though), and any usable SMP box up to $4000 (most of the Intel PCI implementations suck too badly to buy one of those right now -- I'd buy a 2 processer Sun box used for that, but fat chance that you could find one that cheap). When it comes to spending my own money, I want to be at the bleeding edge or I won't spend it. I had one of the first EISA boxes in Utah, and back in my University days, the University had the first MicroVAX II, the first IBM PC, the first IBM PC/XT, and the first NeXT machines in Utah (the CS department at Weber currently owns the 8th production Apple Lisa in the world). Less interesting is the hardware that NetBSD already runs on (someone's already "been there, done that"). I'd do a FreeBSD port for any of that hardware (with credit to the NetBSD sources involved in big glowing letters) if loaned equipment, and I'd maintain the thing if given the equipment. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 11:39:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA29878 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:39:24 -0700 Received: from Adonis.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (Adonis.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw [140.113.145.84]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA29872 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:39:17 -0700 Received: (from jdli@localhost) by Adonis.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA08242 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 11 May 1995 02:40:02 +0800 From: ¾K¥Í¹Ú¦º µL¨¥¥H¹ï Message-Id: <199505101840.CAA08242@Adonis.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw> Subject: swap sequential..... To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 02:40:01 +0800 (CST) Reply-To: jdli@csie.nctu.edu.tw X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 435 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi : Now I have two swap configured, one is a 64MB swap partition, another is a 32MB swap-file. I found that FreeBSD will swap Interleaved, this idea is very good if I have more than one swap partitions, but I think that the swap-file should be slower than a swap partition. Is it possible to make FreeBSD swap partition first, then file? Thanks. -- Mail: jdli@csie.nctu.edu.tw From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 11:58:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA00732 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:58:59 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA00725 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:58:51 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA26364; Wed, 10 May 95 12:52:03 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505101852.AA26364@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. NetBSD To: splyaski@cmp.com (Plyaskin Sergey) Date: Wed, 10 May 95 12:52:03 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <2FB0FD29@mailgate.cmp.com> from "Plyaskin Sergey" at May 10, 95 10:51:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm just curious: > What are the main differences between FreeBSD and NetBSD? in which cases > it's better to use one or another? I personally like FreeBSD very much but > it's would be very interesting to hear the opinion of people who know both > systems. This question can not be answered publically without inciting a flame war between people based on differences in opinion. > P.S. I know NetBSD runs on variety of platforms. This is the main difference of fact between the two, so you already know the public answer. Try looking at www.netbsd.org and www.freebsd.org for the major philosophical differences. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 12:33:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA02059 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:33:34 -0700 Received: from nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu (nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu [129.171.102.27]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA02053 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:33:31 -0700 Received: (from ivan@localhost) by nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA00172 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 1995 15:33:29 -0400 From: Ivan Lima Message-Id: <199505101933.PAA00172@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu> Subject: audio cd To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 15:33:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 270 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This might be a silly question, but how do you mount an audio CD on a SCSI CD-ROM so you can listen to it using xcdplayer? Since I'm not a subscriber of FreeBSD-questions, I'd appreciate if you e-mailed me you answers directly. -ivan- ivan@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 13:28:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA03276 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:28:32 -0700 Received: from tomcat1.tbe.com (tomcat1.tbe.com [140.165.31.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA03270 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:28:29 -0700 Received: by tomcat1.tbe.com (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for questions@freebsd.org id AA06172; Wed, 10 May 95 15:25:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 May 95 15:25:51 -0500 From: dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (David Kelly) Message-Id: <9505102025.AA06172@tomcat1.tbe.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: I miss 'cb' Reply-To: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Recently I needed to deal with some oddly formatted C code and reached for good old cb and found it missing from FreeBSD. Any suggestions as to where I can find one? Seems like a good task for Perl... -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 13:45:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA03688 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:45:16 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA03681 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:45:13 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA26920; Wed, 10 May 95 14:38:35 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505102038.AA26920@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: I miss 'cb' To: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com Date: Wed, 10 May 95 14:38:35 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505102025.AA06172@tomcat1.tbe.com> from "David Kelly" at May 10, 95 03:25:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Recently I needed to deal with some oddly formatted C code and reached for > good old cb and found it missing from FreeBSD. Any suggestions as to where > I can find one? Seems like a good task for Perl... Typical modern usage is GNU "indent", which can be programmed for style on comments, indentation, fuction argument formal declation, placement of squiggly brackets on "if" and "while" and "for", spcaes before or after parenthesis, etc., etc. I believe that there was even a KNF template being passed around for it on the old mailing lists. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 13:46:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA03752 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:46:31 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA03742 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:46:26 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA22831; Wed, 10 May 1995 14:50:32 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 14:50:32 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199505102050.OAA22831@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (David Kelly) "I miss 'cb'" (May 10, 3:25pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I miss 'cb' Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Recently I needed to deal with some oddly formatted C code and reached for > good old cb and found it missing from FreeBSD. Any suggestions as to where > I can find one? Seems like a good task for Perl... How about 'indent'? Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 13:54:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA04078 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:54:11 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA04069 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:54:05 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA22868; Wed, 10 May 1995 14:58:04 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 14:58:04 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199505102058.OAA22868@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) "Re: I miss 'cb'" (May 10, 2:38pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert), dkelly@nebula.tbe.com Subject: Re: I miss 'cb' Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Typical modern usage is GNU "indent", which can be programmed for style > on comments, indentation, fuction argument formal declation, placement > of squiggly brackets on "if" and "while" and "for", spcaes before or > after parenthesis, etc., etc. GNU "indent" is almost 100% based on BSD indent which was donated by Sun. The only features I've found in GNU indent not supported in BSD indent is the ability to tell indent to 'never' use tabs. (Which I absolutely *hate*) That would be a good project for someone. :-) Nate > I believe that there was even a KNF template being passed around for it > on the old mailing lists. 4.4Lite has a indent template and style guide which works pretty well. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 14:10:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA04630 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 14:10:28 -0700 Received: from rmstar.efi.com (rmstar.efi.com [192.216.168.18]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04624 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 14:10:26 -0700 Received: from merlin.efi.com (merlin-e3.efi.com [192.216.175.1]) by rmstar.efi.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA20938 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 14:10:21 -0700 Received: from spock by merlin.efi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/EFI-1.3) id AA07893; Wed, 10 May 95 14:10:20 PDT From: Jo.Han.Soo@efi.com (Jo Han Soo) Received: by spock (931110.SGI) id AA08022; Wed, 10 May 95 14:10:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 May 95 14:10:20 -0700 Message-Id: <9505102110.AA08022@spock> To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk help From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 16:23:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA09089 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:23:39 -0700 Received: from glare.cisco.com (glare.cisco.com [171.69.1.154]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA09083 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:23:38 -0700 Received: (widmer@localhost) by glare.cisco.com (8.6.8+c/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id QAA25942; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:23:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:23:07 -0700 From: Rob Widmer Message-Id: <199505102323.QAA25942@glare.cisco.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: vat audio and 950412-SNAP Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is vat audio supported on a SoundBlaster Pro in 2.0R? Also, I tried installing 950412-SNAP, but the PC hangs right after "changing root device to sd0a" P100 32MB BusLogic BT-946C 2 1GB fast scsi drives Toshiba quad scsi cdrom ATI WinTurbo Mach64 rob From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 16:22:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA09066 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:22:33 -0700 Received: from estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (estienne.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.42.147]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA09060 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:22:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA20663; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:22:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199505102322.QAA20663@estienne.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: estienne.cs.berkeley.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Ivan Lima cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: audio cd In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 May 1995 15:33:29 EDT." <199505101933.PAA00172@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:22:29 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > This might be a silly question, but how do you mount an audio >CD on a SCSI CD-ROM so you can listen to it using xcdplayer? > Since I'm not a subscriber of FreeBSD-questions, I'd >appreciate if you e-mailed me you answers directly. > >-ivan- >ivan@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu You don't need to mount it at all. You just need to fire up xcdplayer and point it at the right device (/dev/cd0c I think). -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 16:38:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA09522 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:38:27 -0700 Received: from jazz.epas.utoronto.ca (root@jazz.epas.utoronto.ca [128.100.160.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA09516 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:38:26 -0700 Received: from blues.epas.utoronto.ca by jazz.epas.utoronto.ca via ESMTP (950221.405.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id TAA25007; Wed, 10 May 1995 19:37:36 -0400 Received: by blues.epas.utoronto.ca (950215.SGI.8.6.10/930416.SGI) id TAA09818; Wed, 10 May 1995 19:37:34 -0400 From: Adam Iles Message-Id: <199505102337.TAA09818@blues.epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: WD disk (AC 31000) settings To: charnier@lirmm.fr (Philippe Charnier) Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 19:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505101639.SAA12766@lirmm.lirmm.fr> from "Philippe Charnier" at May 10, 95 06:39:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1235 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD (last snapshot) on a AC 31000 disk > (200MB for dos, ~800MB for FreeBSD). The geometry is 2100 cyl, 16 > heads and 63 sectors, and translated to 525 cyl, 64 heads and 63 > sectors. > > FreeBSD is saying that it can not handle 64 heads and restore default > value (16). When newfs'ing first partition, there are a lot of errors > displayed in the primary screen: timeouts. > > wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 71679 ... I'm using one of these drives for DOS/FreeBSD without any problems. - Don't use the BOIS geometry translation - Make sure that the DOS partition and the BSDI root file system are all under cyl 1024. Freebsd will be happy with accessing the disk beyond cyl 1023, though the boot sector will only list up to that size for fdisk. > Thanks for any help. > -------- -------- > Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr > > > LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Adam Iles -- EPAS Computing. adam@epas.utoronto.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 17:08:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA10122 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:08:31 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA10115 ; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:08:29 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa08131; 11 May 95 0:07 GMT-60:00 Received: from bagpuss.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa20073; 11 May 95 0:07 GMT-60:00 Received: (karl@localhost) by bagpuss.demon.co.uk (99.9/99.9) id WAA02243; Wed, 10 May 1995 22:23:54 +0100 From: Karl Strickland Message-Id: <199505102123.WAA02243@bagpuss.demon.co.uk> Subject: WangDAT 1300 tape - anyone using one? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 22:23:53 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 673 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just got one of these to use under FreeBSD 1.x, and it seems to be working well. I just wanted to check if anyone was using such a unit under 2.x, as I intend to upgrade (very) shortly.. As an aside, I bought the drive 2nd hand without a manual or any details, so does anyone have details of the spec, and specifically, should I be using 60m or 90m tapes in this? Thanks in advance! -- ------------------------------------------+----------------------------------- Mailed using ELM on FreeBSD | Karl Strickland PGP 2.3a Public Key Available. | Internet: karl@bagpuss.demon.co.uk | From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 17:15:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA10498 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:15:02 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA10487 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:14:57 -0700 From: AlexAdroog@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA101901265; Wed, 10 May 1995 20:14:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 20:14:26 -0400 Message-Id: <950510200519_114271980@aol.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: /etc/myname Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk question: What is the purpose, need, reason for the etc/myname file. What exactlyu is it. Thanx in advance. Timothy From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 17:24:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA10861 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:24:48 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA10855 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:24:46 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA27916; Wed, 10 May 95 18:18:13 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505110018.AA27916@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: /etc/myname To: AlexAdroog@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 May 95 18:18:12 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <950510200519_114271980@aol.com> from "AlexAdroog@aol.com" at May 10, 95 08:14:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > question: What is the purpose, need, reason for the etc/myname file. > What exactlyu is it. This may not be the intended rationale, but I do know that several programs that like to run under IBCS2 use it (SVR3/SCO UNIX binaries). Other than that, it seems useless (the hostname.xxx files where 'xxx' is replaced by the interface name perform the function). Taylor uucp might need it too (I don't run uucp, so I haven't looked at the code lately == couple of years). Some other net supplied software, like MUA's (Mail User Agents) might also use it. We need a testing framework based on ETET so we could delete it and not have to wait to see what breaks. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 10 18:27:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA11962 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 1995 18:27:45 -0700 Received: from servo.ipsilon.com (servo.ipsilon.COM [204.160.240.205]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA11956 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 18:27:44 -0700 Received: from localhost.ipsilon.com (localhost.ipsilon.com [127.0.0.1]) by servo.ipsilon.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA14036 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 18:26:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199505110126.SAA14036@servo.ipsilon.com> X-Authentication-Warning: servo.ipsilon.com: Host localhost.ipsilon.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6beta 3/23/95 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: source tree questions? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 18:26:39 -0700 From: Craig Anderson Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to track your development process. I got sup to work just fine, but I'd like to know how to sup a different release than "current"; e.g. the last SNAP. Is that available? Also, I noticed that there are a number of odd dependencies in the current makefiles that fiddle with the compiling host; e.g. "rm /usr/sbin/compile_et", referencing include files on the host instead of in the source tree. The reason I've run into these things is trying to "make world" when the source tree is not in /usr/src. Is this expected to work? Ill-advised? Foolhardy? But, then again, I could be missing something fundamental and be hopelessly lost. So I would appreciate any help, pointers, suggestions, descriptions, etc. Thanks for any and all help, Craig Anderson From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 00:28:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA18893 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 00:28:34 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (root@[130.234.0.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA18884 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 00:28:16 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA06262 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org); Thu, 11 May 1995 10:29:24 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:29:22 +0300 To: Plyaskin Sergey From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. NetBSD Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I'm just curious: >What are the main differences between FreeBSD and NetBSD? in which cases >it's better to use one or another? I personally like FreeBSD very much but >it's would be very interesting to hear the opinion of people who know both >systems. >Thanks. >P.S. I know NetBSD runs on variety of platforms. I too would like to hear people's opinions about NetBSD, FreeBSD and Linux differences. I have been looking these three about one year now and first I got impression that Linux is the only one (I am in Finland ;-) ). Then I found NetBSD 0.9 and after that FreeBSD 2.0. I have never found any descriptions what are the "real" differences (or example: is one better for personal use and one better for server). Maybe it is like cars: "My is the best";-) NetBSD is version 1.0 and FreeBSD is version 2.0 :-) NetBSD is more hardware independent, more ports on different hardware. NetBSD is not as easy to install as FreeBSD is: You have to collect bindist etc. and install it by "hand". You have to configure network by editing things in /etc/ and so on. =46reeBSD 2.0 is very easy to install using ftp. (As Linux is, if you can mount Linux distribution with NFS). NetBSD does not support more than 16M of RAM if you use ISA disk controllers. (It cannot do "buffer bounching" (sp?) for disk buffers. ISA cannot address more than 16M RAM with DMA). Not a problem if you choose the hardware correctly, I had old h/w and it was a problem. (*I am not expert on PC harware*). I think they do NetBSD more for "server" use. That is: to use the NetBSD node as Internet server. I think FreeBSD (and Linux) is more one user Unix box for personal use with XFree86. Maybe this was true only on FreeBSD 1.x?? FreeBSD 2.0 seems very same as NetBSD 1.0 in that respect. These are my personal impressions based on: 1. I have test installed NetBSD 0.9 and NetBSD 1.0. 2. I am running FreeBSD 2.0 as a httpd server (NCSA htppd + CERN httpd&cache + one file reguest in 3 seconds) 3. I am running Linux Slackware 2.1 as student's time sharing node for pine+tin+irc+... users (700 active users, max 30 at same time). (h/w: 486DX2, 50-66MHz, 32M RAM, 2G SCSI AHA 1540A/1542CF, SMC Elite) 4. I have been listening people who have used or test installed at least two from the NetBSD, FreeBSD and Linux I like FreeBSD. I think Linux has some network and memory allocation/Swap problems + no shadow passwd. I have plan to move from Linux to FreeBSD in the student's node. My next box (If I will have next one) will run FreeBSD (or maybe NetBSD). I think one difference is: Linux is most used, FreeBSD is next and NetBSD is the last (Or is this true, has someone any figures?) I am a Macintosh user so I have some interest for PowerPC and hope NetBSD will be ported on it on some day. Seppo Kallio (kallio@jyu.fi) U of Jyvaskyla =46inland PS. Unix is not h/w dependend, so why run it only Inside Intel? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 07:32:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA01360 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 07:32:33 -0700 Received: from gateway.uwohali.com (gateway.uwohali.com [198.79.105.253]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA01354 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 07:32:29 -0700 Received: from Uwohali1.Uwohali.Com (uwohali1.uwohali.com [198.79.105.1]) by gateway.uwohali.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA23798; Thu, 11 May 1995 09:36:07 -0500 Received: from UWOHALI1/MAILQ by Uwohali1.Uwohali.Com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 11 May 95 9:30:18 -0600 Received: from MAILQ by UWOHALI1 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 11 May 95 9:30:14 -0600 From: "Walter Huff" Organization: Uwohali, Incorporated To: Ivan Lima Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 09:30:09 CST Subject: Re: Colorado tape drive Reply-to: whuff@uwohali.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <11BC7D7A6A@Uwohali1.Uwohali.Com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Ivan Lima > Subject: Colorado tape drive > To: whuff@uwohali.com > Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:09:59 -0400 (EDT) > Sorry to e-mail directly to you instead of posting in the news > group (my news reader is not posting for some reason). > I read your posting on comp.os.386bsd.misc about the problems > you were having with your Colorado Jumbo 250. I'm also having problems > with my Colorado Jumbo 250, but not the same you had. In my case I > can't get the kernel to probe the tape drive at boot-up. And I noticed > that in your case it saw the tape drive and that you have the same > version of FreeBSD that I do (2.0). So, I'd greatly appreciate if you > sent me a copy of the configuration file you used to build the kernel > or just told me what you did. I've rebuilded my kernel several times > trying different options (flags 0x1, flags1) and nothing worked. Actually, I didn't re-build the kernel! I used the stock 2.0R kernel as provided in the distribution, unmodified and un-rebuilt. The machine is extremely stock, and all the devices in it were correctly recognized and operational (except for the tape drive), so I didn't re-build it. As an update I have swapped in the cable with which the tape drive is supposed to hook up, and the result is now the kernel doesn't even see the tape drive! The floppy drive still appears to be working however > Thanks in advance, > > -ivan- > ivan@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu > > Anybody out there have any further insight on this wonderous set of occurances? - Walter Huff From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 07:49:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA01573 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 07:49:37 -0700 Received: from dvals1.larc.nasa.gov (dvals1.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.4.96]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA01567 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 07:49:34 -0700 Received: (from branson@localhost) by dvals1.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA06996 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 May 1995 10:49:31 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199505111449.KAA06996@dvals1.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: VoiceMail for FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:49:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 634 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am interested in writing a driver for a new modem that I have that has voicemail capabilities... I am currently searching for the codes/commands etc for these capabilities. If someone is aware of where I can find them or a program that is already made... i would be interested in getting it. -branson -- MATHESON, E BRANSON E.B.MATHESON@LaRC.NASA.GOV Mail Stop 931 COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION NASA Langley Research Center Assigned to Operations Support Division Hampton, VA 23681-0001 Phone +1 804 864-9700 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 10:08:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA06065 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 10:08:40 -0700 Received: from squid.umd.edu (squid.umd.edu [129.2.40.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA06048 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 10:08:17 -0700 Received: by squid.umd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA27882; Thu, 11 May 1995 13:13:46 -0400 From: fcawth@squid.umd.edu (Fred Cawthorne) Message-Id: <9505111713.AA27882@squid.umd.edu> Subject: Re: Zip drives To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Thu, 11 May 95 13:13:46 EDT Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: ; from "Chuck Robey" at May 9, 95 3:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Has anyone tried out the Iomega Zip drives? I have a Adaptec 2842, will > that drive one around the block? Are there any gotcha's about mounting > or umounting, other than what I'd use for, say, a floppy? > I have one on my FreeBSD 950322-SNAP machine here... Here's how it is probed: (ncr0:6:0): "IOMEGA ZIP 100 L.27" is a type 0 removable SCSI 2 sd1(ncr0:6:0): Direct-Access sd1(ncr0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0Invalid field in CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors) I erased the disk that came with it on a macintosh (Otherwise you couldn't write to it, even with dos or FreeBSD). It seemed to work fine with the disklabel automatically generated by FreeBSD. I had to address it as /dev/sd1d or something. I could eject the disk, mount and unmount, etc... with no problems. Now that I wrote a disklabel onto the disk, it only lets me mount the thing when I have just booted, but when I unmount it and try to do anything with it again, it says "medium may have changed..." and then gives me "device not configured" messages when I try to access any of the /dev/sd1* devices... (i.e. I can't mount it again until I reboot) Otherwise, it is nice. Has anybody else seen this kind of problem with a removeable disk???? I get ~700 K/sec with my NCR 810 scsi controller with iozone creating and reading a 32 meg file... Any ideas??? Is there a bug in the code that re-reads the disklabel when the medium is changed??? Fred. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 10:18:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA06477 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 10:18:37 -0700 Received: from maze.dpo.uab.edu (MAZE.DPO.UAB.EDU [138.26.1.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA06470 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 10:18:35 -0700 Received: from tty26.maze.ppp.uab.edu by maze.dpo.uab.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26074; Thu, 11 May 1995 12:07:03 -0500 Message-Id: <9505111707.AA26074@maze.dpo.uab.edu> Date: Thu, 11 May 95 12:18:42 EDT From: usts062@maze.dpo.uab.edu (Christopher Smith) Reply-To: usts062@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu (Christopher Smith) To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: token ring Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Do you support a token ring card...I think its an IBM 4/16 ISA From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 11:11:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA08897 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 11:11:30 -0700 Received: from reso.infosoc.com (agent01@infosoc.com [199.3.132.87]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA08888 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 11:11:26 -0700 Received: (agent01@localhost) by reso.infosoc.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) id OAA15452; Thu, 11 May 1995 14:14:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 14:14:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Agent 01 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: MITSUMI PROBLEMS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well seeing as how I am one of the MANY who seem to always have a problem with the mitsumi drives, I thought I would relieve some of the pressure on the "BSD Techs" :) and let everyone know that MITSUMI has a BBS up at 415-691-4469. It sometimes isnt up sometimes it is. But there is where you will find .BMP pictures of the JUMPER AND I/O settings which for me was the answer I had been looking for all the time! This should solve almost all the problems I have seen in the past about the mitsumi drives. I really hope this helps alot of people. What I wouldnt have killed for this number months ago. Take it easy, Just some BSD Nut From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 11:59:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA09795 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 11:59:05 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA09789 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 11:59:03 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id OAA06912; Thu, 11 May 1995 14:59:34 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199505111859.OAA06912@hda.com> Subject: Re: Zip drives To: fcawth@squid.umd.edu (Fred Cawthorne) Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 14:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505111713.AA27882@squid.umd.edu> from "Fred Cawthorne" at May 11, 95 01:13:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1739 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Fred Cawthorne writes: > > > > > Has anyone tried out the Iomega Zip drives? I have a Adaptec 2842, will > > that drive one around the block? Are there any gotcha's about mounting > > or umounting, other than what I'd use for, say, a floppy? > > > I have one on my FreeBSD 950322-SNAP machine here... > Here's how it is probed: > (ncr0:6:0): "IOMEGA ZIP 100 L.27" is a type 0 removable SCSI 2 > sd1(ncr0:6:0): Direct-Access > sd1(ncr0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0Invalid field in CDB > sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry > 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors) I'm going to add something to print out what it doesn't like about the CDB. > have changed..." and then gives me "device not configured" messages > when I try to access any of the /dev/sd1* devices... (i.e. I can't mount > it again until I reboot) > Otherwise, it is nice. Has anybody else seen this kind of problem with > a removeable disk???? I get ~700 K/sec with my NCR 810 scsi controller > with iozone creating and reading a 32 meg file... > Any ideas??? > Is there a bug in the code that re-reads the disklabel when the medium > is changed??? It is supposed to lock out access until the disk is completely closed and reopened. If you unmounted the drive and nothing had the drive open then a bug has snuck in and this code in sd.c: > /* > * If somebody still has it open, then forbid re-entry. > */ > if (dsisopen(sd->dk_slices)) { > errcode = ENXIO; > goto bad; > } is returning true when it shouldn't be. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 12:30:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA11011 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 12:30:25 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA11005 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 12:30:24 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easyr.easynet.net [198.67.38.6]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA20703 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 12:30:26 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s9dv4-000rdeC; Thu, 11 May 95 12:29 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: INN keeps SIGBUSing To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 12:29:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 438 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Once or twice a day INN exits via a SIGBUS. The machine is FreeBSD-current i486DX2/66 16MB RAM Adaptec 1542B VGA NE2000 ethernet It has at most 3 people reading news from it via NNTP at any one time. It is processing a partial news feed. The system as been running for several months. Up until a few weeks ago it SIGBUSed perhaps once or twice a month. Any ideas why this is happening? Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 13:13:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA12191 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 13:13:32 -0700 Received: from pentix.f1.ru (Pentix.F1.RU [194.87.86.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA12184 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 13:13:20 -0700 Received: (from am@localhost) by pentix.f1.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA00448 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 1995 00:14:25 +0400 From: Andrew Maltsev Message-Id: <199505112014.AAA00448@pentix.f1.ru> Subject: X11 problem - xterm dumps core To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 00:14:23 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 395 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have FreeBSD current (last updated some hours ago) and XFree3.1.1 All X11 programms I tried works fine except xterm - this one dumps core by signal 11. But when I use xdm - first session runs xterm normally, but without registration in utmp/wtmp. Intresting moment - I tried to run xterm from BSD/386 1.0 (X11R5) - it perfectly runs even without -rwsr-xr-x.. What to do? -- Andrew Maltsev From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 13:21:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA12428 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 13:21:10 -0700 Received: from petrified.cic.net (petrified.cic.net [192.131.22.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA12420 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 13:21:02 -0700 Received: (from altitude@localhost) by petrified.cic.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA27654 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 11 May 1995 16:20:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199505112020.QAA27654@petrified.cic.net> Subject: dos partition mounting. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 16:20:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 93 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi folks. this is hopefully an easy one...how do i mount a dos partition? thanx ...alex... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 14:44:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA15337 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 14:44:32 -0700 Received: from uustar.starnet.net (root@uustar.starnet.net [199.217.253.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA15331 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 14:44:25 -0700 Received: from mumps.pfcs.com by uustar.starnet.net with UUCP id AA08023 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 11 May 1995 16:41:48 -0500 Received: by mumps.pfcs.com id AA09943 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 11 May 1995 17:25:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 17:25:30 -0400 From: Harlan Stenn Message-Id: <199505112125.AA09943@mumps.pfcs.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: sd2: Device not configured? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running the 9504xx-SNAP, and I wanted to add a 94171-376 drive on the chain (hey, it's an available spare drive). The drive has not been on a FreeBSD system before (or an intel box, for that matter). When the system boots the drive is successfully identified and put at sd2, but I can't open the drive, format the drive, partition the drive, or anything else I've tried. I get an ENXIO (device not configured) error. What am I doing wrong? Thanks... H From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 15:59:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA18196 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 15:59:55 -0700 Received: from gold.tc.umn.edu (root@gold.tc.umn.edu [128.101.115.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA18190 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 15:59:54 -0700 Received: by gold.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 11 May 95 17:59:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 17:59:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Jan E Backlund Subject: Printer woes To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an HP Laserjet III connected to the parrallel port of a generic 486 pc running FreeBSD-04-12-95-SNAP. The printer works fine from dos or linux, but not yet from FreeBSD. If I try to access the port directly through 'cat foo > /dev/lpt0' I get a system message that the device is busy. I ran 'MAKEDEVICE lpt0' and got the same thing. dmesg tells me: lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa Originally it was set up as a polling device. I use lptcontrol to change it to an interrupt driven device, again to no avail. Any clues on how to trouble-shoot this problem would be greatly appreciated. Jan Erik back0003@gold.tc.umn.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 17:38:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA21274 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 17:38:48 -0700 Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA21267 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 17:38:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199505120038.RAA21267@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: by crh.cl.msu.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01082; Thu, 11 May 1995 20:38:38 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Subject: pkg_* commands To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 20:38:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 299 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How the hell does one setup the package software to work correctly (i.e. pkg_manage) I cant seem to find even the tiniest of documentation to give me any hints.. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu http://rs560.msu.edu/~henrich/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 18:50:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA23515 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:50:50 -0700 Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA23506 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:50:48 -0700 Received: from asylum.asylum.org by relay4.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQypil05625; Thu, 11 May 1995 21:50:44 -0400 Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id UAA02945; Thu, 11 May 1995 20:49:45 -0500 From: dlr Message-Id: <199505120149.UAA02945@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: pkg_* commands To: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich) Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 20:49:45 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505120038.RAA21267@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Charles Henrich" at May 11, 95 08:38:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 262 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > How the hell does one setup the package software to work correctly (i.e. > pkg_manage) I cant seem to find even the tiniest of documentation to give me > any hints.. > Ummmm....did you try reading the man pages? man pkg_add man pkg_create man pkg*etc From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 18:57:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA23658 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:57:14 -0700 Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA23652 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:57:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199505120157.SAA23652@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: by crh.cl.msu.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01408; Thu, 11 May 1995 21:57:00 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Subject: Re: pkg_* commands To: dlr@asylum.org (dlr) Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 21:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505120149.UAA02945@asylum.asylum.org> from "dlr" at May 11, 95 08:49:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 299 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ummmm....did you try reading the man pages? Of course, but they do not specify where to place package files, what file(s) need to exist as an index etc.. etc. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu http://rs560.msu.edu/~henrich/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 19:26:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA24648 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 19:26:56 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA24642 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 19:26:53 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id TAA01361; Thu, 11 May 1995 19:26:46 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505120226.TAA01361@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: pkg_* commands To: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich) Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 19:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505120038.RAA21267@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Charles Henrich" at May 11, 95 08:38:37 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 777 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk man pkg_add pkg_add(8) UNIX System Manager's Manual pkg_add(8) NAME pkg_add - a utility for installing software package distributions. SYNOPSIS pkg_add [-vInfRMS] [-t template] [-p prefix] pkg-name ... DESCRIPTION The pkg_add command is used to extract packages that have been previously created with the pkg_create(8) command. etc...... just point it at the .tgz file e.g. package_add fred.tgz > > How the hell does one setup the package software to work correctly (i.e. > pkg_manage) I cant seem to find even the tiniest of documentation to give me > any hints.. > > -Crh > > Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu > > http://rs560.msu.edu/~henrich/ > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 19:29:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA24800 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 19:29:53 -0700 Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA24790 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 19:29:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199505120229.TAA24790@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: by crh.cl.msu.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01576; Thu, 11 May 1995 22:29:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 22:29:48 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Apparently-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From henrich Thu May 11 22:29:27 1995 remote from crh Subject: Re: pkg_* commands To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 22:29:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199505120226.TAA01361@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at May 11, 95 07:26:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 531 Sender: henrich > etc...... > just point it at the .tgz file > > e.g. package_add fred.tgz Okay perhaps im lost in space, but is not the pkg_ materials for the packages that are available on ftp.cdrom.com (/pub/FreeBSD/packages)? If so those arent tarfiles, and if I make them a tgz pkg_add fails.. Or is the pkg_ materials something totally orthagonal? In which case the ports should use the pkg_ tools! -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu http://rs560.msu.edu/~henrich/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 21:51:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA29961 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 21:51:01 -0700 Received: from efn.efn.org (root@efn.org [198.68.17.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA29955 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 21:51:00 -0700 Received: from unix (haus.efn.org) by efn.efn.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA17724; Thu, 11 May 95 21:50:20 PDT Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 21:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: gurney_j@unix To: Branson Matheson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: VoiceMail for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199505111449.KAA06996@dvals1.larc.nasa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 May 1995, Branson Matheson wrote: > > I am interested in writing a driver for a new modem that I have that has > voicemail capabilities... I am currently searching for the codes/commands > etc for these capabilities. If someone is aware of where I can find them or > a program that is already made... i would be interested in getting it. > take a look at mgetty... it includes a vgetty program and is probablly what you are looking for you.... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 11 22:24:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA00652 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 1995 22:24:27 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA00646 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 22:24:23 -0700 From: AlexAdroog@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA096016227; Fri, 12 May 1995 01:23:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 01:23:47 -0400 Message-Id: <950512001355_115908415@aol.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: CLEAN FLAG IS WRONG IN SUPERBLOCK Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hello everyone, I am receiving this error way to often on my stystem. It seems to apper after performing "shutdown -r now" The system keeps exiting on error, fixing the rror and rebooting only to repeat the fix, over and over. When i reboot and then go into dos, shutoffthe machine and then cold boot to freebsd it seems to clean up. What gives? any suggestions or help would be appreciated. -Timothy From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 01:59:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA18355 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 01:59:26 -0700 Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu (buckwild@saul3.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA18346 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 01:59:24 -0700 Received: by saul3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29663; Fri, 12 May 95 01:58:54 -0700 X-Sender: buckwild@saul3.u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 01:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Steven Tamola To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: a couple questions... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dear all, well, i just installed 2.0-snap-950412 even though i knew i should've waited for 2.05 to come out, and i must say that the system has definitely come a long, long way! i switched about a year ago from freebsd-1.1 to netbsd just to see what the other hoopla was all about and then just last week i finally got a 486 box to replace my old 386 (while everyone else is upgrading from 486 to 586) and wanted to try the latest release of freebsd. so much has changed that it took me a while to see how everything worked! the new install is pretty dope and it was very easy for me to set it up...no problems at all (except for a couple small bugs in the distribution installation part that were no big deal). i am very impressed! just a few questions now: 1. how reliable is ibcs2 binary compatibility? will i be able to buy anything through mail order and run it on my system? 2. when is linux emulation coming? netbsd has it now and is something i enjoyed playing with. 3. i noticed a lot of the man pages are very non-standard in their formatting (the bsd man pages were all the same but a bunch of others like the gnu pages and some handmade ones were formatted all wrong). is there a group that deals with documentation? since i'm not the most adept programmer is there a way i can contribute by fixing the documentation up? (i also noticed a bunch of incorrect references to commands on some pages.) sincerely, -m From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 02:12:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA19324 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 02:12:56 -0700 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA19310 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 02:12:49 -0700 From: SahagunS@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA143399937; Fri, 12 May 1995 05:12:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 05:12:17 -0400 Message-Id: <950512015447_116005844@aol.com> To: Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: SCSI boards and then some. Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After reading section 3, titled 'Hardware compatibility', it is not clear if the SCSI portion of a Sound Blaster 16 SCSI-2 card will work with freeBSD 2.0. I do have a need for sampling, but under Windows only, and I don't anticipate that i'll ever need to boot from a SCSI device. I'm really just trying to avoid buying a sound card and a SCSI card. I really don't have my heart set on a particular brand of sound card or CD-ROM. I'm open for suggestions. Is shared memory as a means of IPC allowed in freeBSD 2.0? Can the priority levels of tasks be changed dynamically? How do two tasks, for example, share the PC's screen? And finally, is there a port of freeBSD for a 68k platform? Thanks much. SahagunS@aol.com or 73707,2416@compuserve.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 04:56:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA28189 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 04:56:33 -0700 Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA28171 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 04:56:21 -0700 From: vernon@public.bta.net.cn Received: from eds.com.bta.net.cn (eds.com.bta.net.cn [202.96.2.172]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA07282 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 19:55:46 +0800 Received: by eds.com.bta.net.cn (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0027; Fri, 12 May 95 03:57:48 -0700 Message-Id: <9505121057.AA0027@eds.com.bta.net.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 May 95 03:38:57 +0000 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: vernon@public.bta.net.cn Subject: X-windows mouse problem X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <22_64_1_800264337> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is my second attempt at this question. If anyone responded to my query the first time around, I appoligize, but I did not receive your response. If I am sending this query to the wrong location, please indicate so and if possible provide me with an appropriate E-mail address. I have installed FreeBSD 2.0 and the associated X-Windows package on my computer system. I have read the associated documentation and attempted several configurations to get the X-Windows server to function properly on my system. Currently I can run the X-Windows server and it will come up, however the mouse does not function properly. I have the mouse configured as a PS/2 mouse (the correct configuration for my computer system). The /dev/psm0 entry exists, but the mouse cursor does not respond to any mouse event. I have attempted all the configuration options that I could think of and have consulted the documentation that came with my the FreeBSD 2.0 version I am using (I purchased the Walnut Creek CD-ROM) but I have not been able to get the mouse to work properly. The documentation I have indicates that you can cat from the device /dev/tty00 to check for mouse events. When I try this I get no visual reaction corresponding to mouse events. I have also tried to cat from /dev/psm0 and /dev/mouse (both of which exist), but these devices do not allow me to cat from them (unless I change the file attributes, and even then I do not get any visual reaction for mouse events). I am running FreeBSD 2.0 on a Gateway 2000 P5-75. The system has a PS/2 mouse which is detected properly by the other software I use (my primary 720MB HD is dedicated to OS/2 v.3 - Warp - I run FreeBSD 2.0 from a second dedicated 450MB HD). I see no indication of the mouse being detected in the boot messages (I don't know if I should or not). I would greatly appreciate any additional ideas or help anyone can provide. Regards, and to the FreeBSD 2.0 authors/contributers, thanks for the great work! Vernon Stinebaker From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 06:31:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA03096 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 06:31:20 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA03087 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 06:31:17 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA143675359; Fri, 12 May 1995 09:29:20 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FB38D29@mailgate.cmp.com>; Fri, 12 May 95 09:30:33 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: questions Subject: RE: X-windows mouse problem Date: Fri, 12 May 95 09:29:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FB38D29@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 44 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The /dev/psm0 entry exists, but the mouse cursor does not respond to any mouse event. I have attempted all the configuration options that I could think of and have consulted the documentation that came with my the FreeBSD 2.0 version I am using (I purchased the Walnut Creek CD-ROM) but I have not been able to get the mouse to work properly. The documentation I have indicates that you can cat from the device /dev/tty00 to check for mouse events. When I try this I get no visual reaction corresponding to mouse events. I have also tried to cat from /dev/psm0 and /dev/mouse (both of which exist), but these devices do not allow me to cat from them (unless I change the file attributes, and even then I do not get any visual reaction for mouse events). Try also /dev/cuaa0 (or cuaa1). That worked for me. =S.P. I am running FreeBSD 2.0 on a Gateway 2000 P5-75. The system has a PS/2 mouse which is detected properly by the other software I use (my primary 720MB HD is dedicated to OS/2 v.3 - Warp - I run FreeBSD 2.0 from a second dedicated 450MB HD). I see no indication of the mouse being detected in the boot messages (I don't know if I should or not). I would greatly appreciate any additional ideas or help anyone can provide. Regards, and to the FreeBSD 2.0 authors/contributers, thanks for the great work! Vernon Stinebaker From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 06:58:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA04154 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 06:58:05 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04148 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 06:58:01 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA07387; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:58:02 +0800 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 21:58:01 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: "cd ~" in FTP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I FTP into my FreeBSD machine, "cd ~" switches me to root's home directory, regardless of who I log in as. Bug in ftpd? -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 08:13:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA07282 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 08:13:02 -0700 Received: from gemsgw.med.ge.com (gemsgw.med.ge.com [192.88.230.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA07276 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 08:13:00 -0700 Received: from gemed.med.ge.com by gemsgw.med.ge.com (4.1/GEMS-1.1) id AA00715; Fri, 12 May 95 10:13:35 CDT Received: from sol.sol.med.ge.com (sol-gw) by gemed.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21298; Fri, 12 May 95 10:13:54 CDT Received: from merak.med.ge.com by sol.sol.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28919; Fri, 12 May 95 10:13:16 CDT From: laufen@sol.med.ge.com (Derek Laufenberg x7-4534) Received: by merak.med.ge.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA19695; Fri, 12 May 95 10:13:14 CDT Date: Fri, 12 May 95 10:13:14 CDT Message-Id: <9505121513.AA19695@merak.med.ge.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: YP - getpwnam requests core dumps on client Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A while back I asked for some help getting YP/NIS service running. Well I spent some more time "RTFMing" and found I had not added the NIS indicators in /etc/master.passwd, /etc/group, and /etc/hosts. Newbie error I know :). The hosts changes work fine for me. I can reach any host in the master. So I know that the ypbind is running fine. Well when I changed the master.passwd file to include a '+:*::::::::' entry a number of things broke. All of the following core dump with a signal 11. login with any name besides root ls -l in a directory which contains files with a UID which needs YP lookup yppasswd with any name besides root I recompiled passwd with symbols and started the debugger (gdb). Steping thru one of the cases which fail I found that all of the NIS commands work until getpwnam is called. This is the function which kills the process. I don't have the code in front of me, but it was line 256 of the file which contains the yp hash code. I'm running 4-12-95 SNAP on both the client and server machines. Thanks for any insight. Derek Laufenberg From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 10:07:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA12842 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 10:07:11 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA12835 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 10:07:08 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA01304; Fri, 12 May 95 10:59:41 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505121659.AA01304@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: X-windows mouse problem To: vernon@public.bta.net.cn Date: Fri, 12 May 95 10:59:41 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505121057.AA0027@eds.com.bta.net.cn> from "vernon@public.bta.net.cn" at May 12, 95 03:38:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The original formatting on this message makes it quite difficult to read; it has many lines linger than 80 characters. This probably accounts, in part, for your lack of response. If I have a choice between a readable message and one that I can't read, I will delete the unreadable one in the hopes that someone else will get it. ] This is my second attempt at this question. If anyone responded to my ] query the first time around, I appoligize, but I did not receive your ] response. If I am sending this query to the wrong location, please ] indicate so and if possible provide me with an appropriate E-mail ] address. ] ] I have installed FreeBSD 2.0 and the associated X-Windows package on my ] computer system. I have read the associated documentation and attempted ] several configurations to get the X-Windows server to function properly ] on my system. Currently I can run the X-Windows server and it will come ] up, however the mouse does not function properly. I have the mouse ] configured as a PS/2 mouse (the correct configuration for my computer ] system). For the PS/2 mouse to operate correctly, it needs to be in your kernel. ] The /dev/psm0 entry exists, but the mouse cursor does not respond to any ] mouse event. I have attempted all the configuration options that I could ] think of and have consulted the documentation that came with my the ] FreeBSD 2.0 version I am using (I purchased the Walnut Creek CD-ROM) but ] I have not been able to get the mouse to work properly. Since it is in your kernel. the next step is to see if it is seen during the boot process. If it isn't, it's probably an incorrect jumper or CMOS setting. [ ... BEGIN out of context quote ... ] ] I am running FreeBSD 2.0 on a Gateway 2000 P5-75. The system has a ] PS/2 mouse which is detected properly by the other software I use (my ] primary 720MB HD is dedicated to OS/2 v.3 - Warp - I run FreeBSD 2.0 ] from a second dedicated 450MB HD). I see no indication of the mouse ] being detected in the boot messages (I don't know if I should or not). [ ... END out of context quote ... ] You need to look at the kernel boot messages with the dmesg command: /sbin/dmesg | more This will give you the boot information as to whether or not the kernel saw the device. If it didn't, you need to post again to the questions list with the information. The probable advice will be to try booting a more recent kernel. If the kernel *does* see the mouse device, then the problem is that you don't have X configured correctly (this is what I think the problem probably is, since it's a common problem). ] The documentation I have indicates that you can cat from the device ] /dev/tty00 to check for mouse events. When I try this I get no visual ] reaction corresponding to mouse events. This is only true for a serial mouse on COM1 (on COM2:, it would be /dev/tty01). Unfortunately, FreeBSD doesn't have a common mouse interface for all mice, nor a "mouse test" program (like SVR4). ] I have also tried to cat from /dev/psm0 and /dev/mouse (both of which ] exist), but these devices do not allow me to cat from them (unless I ] change the file attributes, and even then I do not get any visual ] reaction for mouse events). I don't expect that would work. ] I would greatly appreciate any additional ideas or help anyone can ] provide. You need to read the XFree85 manual pages; specifically, you will need to change some lines in the file XF86Config. This file will be in /usr/X11R5/lib/X11 if you are running R5, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 if you are running R6, and /usr/lib/X11 will be a symbolic link to the correct location if the install is done correctly (I think the 2.0 install was broken -- and could still be broken -- in not making the symbolic link). You will need to change at least the "Device" line and potentially the "Protocol" line in the "Pointer" section. You will need to read your man pages to know for sure (sorry, I don't use PS/2 style mice because they interfere with the UnixWare kernel debugger and other less intelligent software, including Microsoft stuff). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 10:55:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA15850 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 10:55:14 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA15838 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 10:55:12 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA01776; Fri, 12 May 95 11:46:34 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505121746.AA01776@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. To: SahagunS@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 95 11:46:33 MDT Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <950512015447_116005844@aol.com> from "SahagunS@aol.com" at May 12, 95 05:12:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > After reading section 3, titled 'Hardware compatibility', it is not clear if > the SCSI portion of a Sound Blaster 16 SCSI-2 card will work with freeBSD > 2.0. I do have a need for sampling, but under Windows only, and I don't > anticipate that i'll ever need to boot from a SCSI device. I'm really just > trying to avoid buying a sound card and a SCSI card. I really don't have my > heart set on a particular brand of sound card or CD-ROM. I'm open for > suggestions. The answer depends on your answer to the question "which SCSI interface of the three available for the Sound Blaster do you have?". There is an AIC6360 driver (Adaptec 1522) that will work with one of them as long as you get the intterupts, etc. right. I believe they are *all* supported (including the Mitsumi) in the upcoming 2.0.5 release. You should be aware that these interfaces aren't really bus mastering, and so will have poor performance. You should get a real SCSI card if this is a problem for you. > Is shared memory as a means of IPC allowed in freeBSD 2.0? Yes. There are several issues, like time stamp updating that make it unsuitable for really abusive programs likes INN, but for the most part it should work. > Can the priority levels of tasks be changed dynamically? man nice man renice top > How do two tasks, for example, share the PC's screen? Usually by console switching. This is generally true for any I/O system that can't guarantee atomicity of state change commands. For instance, the VMS broadcast facility relies on the fact that the VMS I/O subsystem will always use atomic writes because it has embedded knowledge of when the terminal is at state 0 in escape sequence processing. VMS can do this because it simplified the problem by choosing to support on DEC terminals. This was further refined when session switching came into vogue (LAT + VT330/VT340, etc.) and in supporting transparent printing by removing the escape key from DEC manufactured terminals (no lie). Making these assumptions buys you neat features, like status line updates and functional transparent printing (which you can get using a state machine seperate from the I/O subsystem without making the full assumption -- Digiboard does it) at the cost of hardware independence. There are a lot of other examples, like baud rate recognition by way of carriage return baud rate bit spreading (you crank the baud to it's highes level, and ussume any incoming data is a carriage return. Then you match the sequences against a catalog to get the real baud rate. Try this some time; it's terrifically hardware dependent on the serial card clock and dividers; PC hardware simply has insuffcient quality control to make it reliable without calibrating each card). These are tradeoffs that UNIX and UNIX work-alikes in general do not make, since they are intended as protable to diverse hardware. > And finally, is there a port of FreeBSD for a 68k platform? No. FreeBSD has approached the problem depth-first instead of breadth-first. Both are equally valid approaches. With the support of the NetBSD code, a port would be trivial, or you could run the NetBSD code itself. Eventually I expect that the two will get to a point where they are virtually indistinguishable. You already see some ossification of both systems by attempts to conform to standards by system rather than library changes (ie: POSIX, IBCS2, the X<->console interface, etc.). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 11:04:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA16477 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:04:17 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA16468 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:04:15 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA02180; Fri, 12 May 95 11:57:40 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505121757.AA02180@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: a couple questions... To: buckwild@u.washington.edu (Mark Steven Tamola) Date: Fri, 12 May 95 11:57:39 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Mark Steven Tamola" at May 12, 95 01:58:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1. how reliable is ibcs2 binary compatibility? will i be able to buy > anything through mail order and run it on my system? Most programs are not written in strict conformance to IBCS2; that is, they use OS features specific to the platform they are sold on. That means not all programs will run. Very specifically, most programs using networking require the use of /dev/socket to work. You could port the Linux code for this rather easily (it's a per use port because it hasn't been rewritten to be free of GPL). All X programs use networking unless run locally over UNIS domain sockets. The IBCS2 dictates installation tools. Unless you can pull them from an SVR3/SVR4/SCO box, you will probably have to install by hand (a rather complicated process, but it can be done). On the plus side, I have run or have seen running (some after the hack for /dev/socket support) commercial versions of: o Lotus 1-2-3 o Sybase o SCO FoxBase o Microsoft Word o The SCO developer's kit o The SCO product packaging utilities o All the games from an SVR3 box o The WordPerfect for X demo for SVR3 > 2. when is linux emulation coming? netbsd has it now and is something i > enjoyed playing with. It's partially there in current. Partially means "not enough to run DOOM, so don't ask". It will run many Linux binaries available from commercial vendors who happen to have Linux versions (I've seen 3, including a "Brief" clone that is advertised in Linux Jounal, run without hiccups). > 3. i noticed a lot of the man pages are very non-standard in their > formatting (the bsd man pages were all the same but a bunch of others > like the gnu pages and some handmade ones were formatted all wrong). is > there a group that deals with documentation? since i'm not the most > adept programmer is there a way i can contribute by fixing the > documentation up? (i also noticed a bunch of incorrect references to > commands on some pages.) Contact doc@freebsd.org. They will appreciate the help, I'm sure. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 11:09:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA16866 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:09:53 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (lupine.nsi.nasa.gov [198.116.2.100]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA16860 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:09:51 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA11815; Fri, 12 May 1995 14:08:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:08:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP routing question (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A few days ago I sent in a message asking for help with PPP routing. Thanks to the people who responded!! :{) :{) :{) I've solved part of the problem - that of getting the subnetted network announced via RIP. The man page for "routed" indicates the /etc/gateways file has the form {net | host} n1 gateway n2 metric m1 {passive | active | external} I created an entry of the form net 198.116.75.0 gateway 198.116.2.4 metric 1 active but routed would not announce the route. A (not so) quick reading of the code shows that the only keywords recognized are "passive" and "external" for the type of route - the word "active" is NOT a valid keyword! Not only that, but the relevant code does . . . if we see "passive" { do this stuff } if we see "active" { do this other stuff } . . . This means if you DO put in a line of the form net n1 gateway n2 metric m1 active the keyword "active" is simply ignored and neither the passive nor the external action is taken. Nor is an error generated. Oops.... The man page for routed needs to be updated to reflect this. I altered my /etc/gateways file to change "active" to "external" and now the route is being properly RIPped. It might also help if the routed code was modified to do . . . if we see "passive" { do this stuff } else if we see "external" { do this stuff } else fprintf(stderr,"error"); . . . Whew!!!! At least now I can get to the outside world. 'course, this STILL doesn't explain why I have to tell routed to explicitly route this net (since it's directly attached.) Oh well, back to the white board... Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 11:30:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA17446 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:30:42 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (lupine.nsi.nasa.gov [198.116.2.100]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA17432 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:30:35 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA11873; Fri, 12 May 1995 14:29:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:29:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP routing question (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 May 1995, Chris Shenton wrote: > Sez you: > > but routed would not announce the route. A (not so) quick reading of the > code shows that the only keywords recognized are "passive" and "external" > for the type of route - the word "active" is NOT a valid keyword! Not only > that, but the relevant code does > > if we see "passive" { > do this stuff > } > if we see "active" { > do this other stuff > } > > This means if you DO put in a line of the form > > net n1 gateway n2 metric m1 active > > the keyword "active" is simply ignored and neither the passive nor the > external action is taken. > > Don't you mean "external" in the second `if'? Oops... Yes. Sorry about that... Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 11:37:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA18045 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:37:02 -0700 Received: from wavefront.wti.com (WAVEFRONT.WTI.COM [144.253.1.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA18039 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:36:59 -0700 Received: from walrus.wti.com by wavefront.wti.com (4.1/SMI-1.0-WTI Special) id AA14306; Fri, 12 May 95 11:18:44 PDT Received: by walrus.wti.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/Wavefront-Client-2.0) id LAA05310; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:18:12 -0700 From: "Steve Galle" Message-Id: <9505121118.ZM5308@walrus.wti.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:18:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: AlexAdroog@aol.com "MSDOS Partition" (May 10, 12:59am) References: <950510005457_113321871@aol.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: AlexAdroog@aol.com Subject: Re: MSDOS Partition Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alex (and anyone else who hasn't yet made the same mistake I did!), You have a time bomb on your hands. Mine just blew a few days ago. The problem is that even though you did the fdisk and set the new partitioning, the disklabel is still telling dos it has the whole disk to play with. Of course, a bunch of it is no longer doses (uh, that's dos es) property. This will eventually let dos do something you'll really wish it hadn't. I don't know what the most graceful way to recover from this is; probably you'll need to back up the dos partition, change the disklabel to reflect the changes to your drive partitions, and (probably) reload from your backup. Maybe someone else has a better solution. The only thing I can suggest is that you should probably fix the condition before it forces you to do so. It has really unpleasant ways of letting you know you need to take care of the problem. This should also probably be made known as a possible problem at install time... Good luck; drop me a line if someone feeds you a better solution. -steve On May 10, 12:59am, AlexAdroog@aol.com wrote: > Subject: MSDOS Partition > I recently insatallled FreeBSD v2.0 > I have a maxtor 7546 AT drive on a generic vlb conroller. > Originally i had all the available space allocated for PCDOS. > Through the FreeBSD boot process, i edited that slice and changed it to 250 > megs for PCDOS. I also allocated about 270 to FreeBSD. I loaded the Bindist's > through the dos mount and everything went hunky dorry. > Now when i am in dos (through an active partition after a shutdown and I do a > diskspace check it is showing 370 +- megs allocated for dos (i have the rest > of dos taken up by programs). What gives? should not my dos partition have > reduced and show maybe 170 or so megs? > Also, the dos partion does not mount at startup. I get a message somewhat > like this... > > msdos: stat /dos invalid file (etc). > > maybe the controller? anybody have any experiance with this or suggestions? > > ThanX in advance! > > Timothy > > >-- End of excerpt from AlexAdroog@aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 12:57:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA20092 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 12:57:42 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA20084 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 12:57:40 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA05258; Fri, 12 May 1995 12:57:19 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505121957.MAA05258@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. To: SahagunS@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 12:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <950512015447_116005844@aol.com> from "SahagunS@aol.com" at May 12, 95 05:12:17 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1169 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > After reading section 3, titled 'Hardware compatibility', it is not clear if > the SCSI portion of a Sound Blaster 16 SCSI-2 card will work with freeBSD > 2.0. I do have a need for sampling, but under Windows only, and I don't > anticipate that i'll ever need to boot from a SCSI device. I'm really just > trying to avoid buying a sound card and a SCSI card. I really don't have my > heart set on a particular brand of sound card or CD-ROM. I'm open for > suggestions. > > > Is shared memory as a means of IPC allowed in freeBSD 2.0? yes if turned on.. (in the kernel.. it's a compile time option) see /usr/share/FAQ/FreeBSD.FAQ.. part 6 > > Can the priority levels of tasks be changed dynamically? see 'NICE' type "man nice" > > > How do two tasks, for example, share the PC's screen? first come first served.. data get's intermixed.. use CTL-ALT-F1 ->CTL-ALT-Fx to switch between differnt 'virtual' screens. you can run separate processes on each.. > > > And finally, is there a port of freeBSD for a 68k platform? no, though there is a NetBSD for the MAC and AMIGA > > > Thanks much. > > SahagunS@aol.com or 73707,2416@compuserve.com > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 17:05:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA14276 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:05:29 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA14268 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:05:23 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA00515; Tue, 25 Apr 95 12:13:35 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504251813.AA00515@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: DOS emulator To: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 12:13:34 MDT Cc: SELPHJ@alpha.obu.edu, swedguy@friendly.net5b.io.org, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504250524.AA23904@juku.li.ttu.ee> from "Tanel Kuusk" at Apr 25, 95 08:24:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Yes they do but I wouldn't take it. I rather use DOS/FreeBSD paritions. > Am I missing something, but I can't imagine how can one run DOS programs > using only partitions without a DOS emulator? By booting DOS. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 17:05:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA14284 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:05:33 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA14278 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:05:32 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA00590; Tue, 25 Apr 95 12:20:02 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504251820.AA00590@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: DOS emulator To: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 12:20:01 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, SELPHJ@alpha.obu.edu In-Reply-To: <9504250518.AA23898@juku.li.ttu.ee> from "Tanel Kuusk" at Apr 25, 95 08:18:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is there a DOS emulator for FreeBSD? (Not Windows) Either > > commercial or non-commercial ok. > Work is going on on pcemu (the same thing as in Linux?), but it ain't ready > yet. PCEMU is a processer level emulator. DOSEMU is a VM86() mode emulator. Linux uses DOSEMU. PCEMU will work on non-Intel processrs. DOSEMU will work only where the is a VM86() (which may well be more than just Intel processers, depending on what you are willing to cram in your kernel). By definition, on Intel hardware, DOSEMU is going to be potentially several orders of magnitude faster than PCEMU. NetBSD currently has VM86() code that FreeBSD would be stupid to not incorporate; they are porting the Linux DOSEMU to it. This is not the major benefit of VM86() however; it is enabling technology for running on all hardware DOS can, if engineered correctly. Linux, UnixWare, Solaris, SCO, and other UNIX-like OS's that have VM86() mode (other than Windows 95) are not engineered correctly to take advantage of this. No BSD is either. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 17:07:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA14328 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:07:25 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA14322 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:07:22 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA11339; Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:25:24 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9504270225.AA11339@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: linux To: ddunbar@ipxpress.aws.waii.com (Don Dunbar) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:25:23 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504270040.AA02827@ipxpress.aws.waii.com> from "Don Dunbar" at Apr 26, 95 07:40:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > My dad's office telles him that FreeBSD is not AT&T UNIX compatible and it > can't run SunOS 4.1.3 binaries like Linux can. Is this true? Does FreeBSD > use 'ports' like Linux? This "feels" as if it were being asked rather tongue-in-cheek, but I'll answer it seriously anyway. Linux can not run SunOS 4.1.3 binaries; in fact, I believe the only hardware capable of that is Sun hardware, an Linux doesn't run there. SunOS 4.1.3 is not AT&T UNIX compatible in any case, so your information is confused. I do believe that NetBSD on Sun hardware can actually run the majority of SunOS 4.1.3 programs, however. Currently, FreeBSD is not ported to multiple platforms (it's Intel specific), but since NetBSD and FreeBSD are "sisters", it would probably be a trivial "port" that would mostly involve integrating code fron NetBSD into FreeBSD and offending peoples political sensabilities in the process (I suspect). The major issue would be the changes to the source tree organization that would be needed to do this. If you know someone who has a Sun machine supported by NetBSD and are willing to do the work (and will be careful to credit the NetBSD authors), I don't think anyone would complain too loudly. I think a Linux port to SPARC would be a lot more difficult, both because of their VM and tasking code being highly Intel-centric (though this has been changing) and because it would be difficult to take the NetBSD code wholesale and comply with the UCB syle copyright restrictions that say you don't have to give away source code and the Linux GPL restrictions that say you do. There is also the issue of GPL requiring "no additional restrictions", and the UCB style copyright demanding credit in published materials being in conflict. I don't know about Sun 386i binaries -- I believe that Linux can *not* run them; FreeBSD can't, but NetBSD might be able to. Maybe this is what "your dad's office" meant when they said that. Neither Linux nor any of the BSD's are truly AT&T UNIX compatible. To claim compatability, you would have to pass a validation suite for SVID, the System V Interface Definition. It's humerous to note that UnixWare, which is the current "real UNIX" is not SVID compliant. It fails on gettimeofday(RT), getitimer(RT), setitimer(RT), and select(S). This is not anything that anyone in the industry doesn't already know if they've tried to use these interfaces. The system timer deficiencies that cause this failure are the main reason UnixWare does not support QIC-80 tapes prior to release 2.0, and supports them badly in the current release. There is a binary compatability mode for SVR3 using COFF format. Most SVR4 binaries are still distributed this way, including things like Sybase and other commercial databsed software. The compatability mode is called IBCS2, which stands for Intel Binary Compatability Standard, version 2. Linux, FreeBSD, and NetBSD all partially comply with IBCS2, although there are areas where one is more compliant than another. Where none of them comply is the installation mechanisms. Generally, the shell script and package management tools are not IBCS2 compliant on these machines. You're local "Barnes and Noble" or other computer bookstore will have a copy of IBCS2 as part of the SVR3/SVR4 manual set published by "UNIX Press". If you can fight the install process sufficiently, the IBCS2 packages will mostly run on all three systems. I have personally run a binary distribution of Lotus 123 on both FreeBSD and NetBSD. I have also run Micorsoft Word for SCO UNIX, and SCO Foxbase (also for SCO UNIX) on FreeBSD. I have run Sybase on FreeBSD after integrating the Linux /dev/socket driver, which is part of their IBCS2 code. Linux will not run Sybase, though, and neither will NetBSD (NetBSD for trivial reasons that I forget, and Linux from some protocol stack and signal issues). I did not contribute this integration back because it's relatively easy to do, because of the GPL on the driver contaminating the BSD kernel viability, and because of the fact that Novell claims to own any UNIX work I did on my own time after they bought USL and I was employed by Novell when I did the actual work (in other words, don't ask me for it, you won't get it). The FreeBSD "ports" collection is probably the most advance of any of the operating systems in question, since they are all packaged for easy installation by a novice user. The NetBSD ports collection uses the same software (with only slight changes) so as long as you have the FreeBSD shared libraries and ld.so available, the programs should run on NetBSD as well. NetBSD is also maintaining a growing ports collection. Linux has arguably more precompiled software for it, but it is also arguably in a less easy to install form. The install process is often the hardest part of getting a port running unless you are compiling it yourself, so this is a big factor for some people. On the other hand, Linux CDROM collections tend to have a top-down install for what's on the CDROMS, although the Linux tools are much less robust if you want to try something out then later get rid of it. None of the OS's install tools are compatable with any commercial operating system's install tools. Looking over this message prior to sending it, I note that it seems to give a preferability order of NetBSD, FreeBSD, and last Linux. This has more to do with the specific questions you asked than it does to do with my personal preferences, or the capability of the OS's. If you ask different questions, I'd probably give you a different order. If you asked straight out which is better and why, I'd just say that they are different and they each have different strength, and the answer you get depends on what you single out. That is, a comparison made that way will be about as fair as your average slanted benchmark. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 17:37:23 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA15306 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:37:23 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA15299 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:37:22 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA13795; Fri, 12 May 1995 20:37:17 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id UAA11097; Fri, 12 May 1995 20:37:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:37:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org cc: "Charles B. Robey" Subject: GUS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On my way to get a GUS, I just digested an entire issure of Computer Shopper (urp!) and only found 2 ads for it. That's some real market penetration, but I am not deterred. Point is, I just want to make sure that I'm getting the right thing here ... CMO's ad lists a "UltraSound Max WaveTable Sythesis 512K" for $169. Unquestionably, that's the best price showing, but is this the real article? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 17:41:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA15342 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:41:04 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA15336 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:40:59 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id SAA01008; Fri, 12 May 1995 18:44:56 -0600 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:44:56 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199505130044.SAA01008@trout.sri.MT.net> To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Cc: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk), questions@FreeBSD.org, SELPHJ@alpha.obu.edu Subject: Re: DOS emulator In-Reply-To: <9504251820.AA00590@cs.weber.edu> References: <9504250518.AA23898@juku.li.ttu.ee> <9504251820.AA00590@cs.weber.edu> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert writes: > NetBSD currently has VM86() code that FreeBSD would be stupid to not > incorporate.. The NetBSD VM86() code is non-trivial to port to FreeBSD because of the extreme amount of differences in the i386 support in both trees. I spent some time after John Kohl's released his latest diffs attempting to port it to FreeBSD, but w/out a NetBSD system for reference it was impossible to determine the context for the diffs in relation to the FreeBSD tree. I know have a NetBSD tree for reference, but I have been swamped at work and my personal life has been crazy (trying to buy a house, stress from outside sources, etcc) so my attempt to get this working in FreeBSD has been laid aside to work on more pressing problems. If someone would like to pick up this work, I don't think it would take more than 20-40 hours to get it roughed-in to the FreeBSD kernel. At this point in time folks might be more willing to spend the time it takes to make it part of the standard distribution by cleaning up the bogosities that will undoubtedly be part of the initial port. If you're interested in *doing* the work, let me know and I can point you to the bits, or even provide them. Note, I don't have anything of substance as the hard-disk crashed on the portable my work was on. (How can I backup a stupid SCO box over the network since I can't get it to write data using 'tar cf - / | rcmd sun-box dd of=/dev/tape' which works on *every* other system I've used) Anyway, as of a month ago, someone who *was* working on the porting the code but they didn't expect to have much more time to spend on it, so there might be a starting point better than nothing as well. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 18:33:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA16474 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 18:33:14 -0700 Received: from dtr.com (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA16467 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 18:33:12 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA26419 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 1995 18:21:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199505130121.SAA26419@dtr.com> Subject: SIGFPE on most binaries on 386dx To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1060 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm in the process of loading SNAP-0322 on a 386DX (33MHz). I've loaded the boot and cpio disks as well as bin- and secure- distributions. Everything went well up to this point - so I went to boot to multi-user. It failed to boot all of the way - getty reported SIGFPE continuously. So I hit the big red switch, booted it to single-user, and fscked the filesystems. At this point, practically everything results in a SIGFPE and a lovely core file. :( It seems that everything out of /bin and /sbin run fine, but anything out of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin result in a SIGFPE. I thought it might have something to do with the Cyrix coprocessor (no flames, I bought the system used at a very good price) so I pulled it. Same thing. Just for grins, I'm going to compile a new kernel using the GPL math emulation, but I doubt that's going to fix the problem. Any clues? Hardware config is as follows: i386DX-33 w/SiS chipset, AMI BIOS, 8MB RAM Cyrix CX-83D87-33-GP WD-1007SE2 ISA ESDI controller WD (?) 16 bit ethernet card Monochrome display adapter From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 19:49:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA21764 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 19:49:26 -0700 Received: from dtr.com (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA21753 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 19:49:22 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA28153 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 1995 19:30:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199505130230.TAA28153@dtr.com> Subject: Problems with ypbind & other processes To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 228 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a reason why 'calendar -a' and 'locate.updatedb' as run out of /etc/daily and /etc/weekly on 0322-SNAP dump core when run with ypbind? On a related note, it appears that repquota doesn't know to look at the NIS maps. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 19:59:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA22355 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 19:59:04 -0700 Received: from sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.47]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA22349 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 19:59:02 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id WAA25600 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 1995 22:58:31 -0400 Received: (from gene@localhost) by starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA03714; Fri, 12 May 1995 19:38:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:38:47 -0400 From: Gene Stark Message-Id: <199505122338.TAA03714@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> To: "Steve Galle" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: "Steve Galle"'s message of Fri, 12 May 1995 11:18:11 -0700 Subject: Re: MSDOS Partition Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >You have a time bomb on your hands. Mine just blew a few days ago. The problem >is that even though you did the fdisk and set the new partitioning, the >disklabel is still telling dos it has the whole disk to play with. Of course, a Does DOS have a "disklabel"? What seems to happen is the following: If you use FDISK to partition your disk, and then you format one slice under DOS, and then you change the MBR partition table with FDISK, you leave the DOS slice starting at the same place, but you reduce its size, and then you put good FreeBSD data in the area that used to be allocated to DOS, but isn't any more, and then you use DOS FORMAT to try to reformat the smaller slice, then DOS will quite happily and quickly ignore what the MBR says and format over your good FreeBSD data. The solution is to backup your DOS area, then use FreeBSD to write garbage (like a copy of /kernel, or something) over the beginning of the DOS slice so that it doesn't appear to be valid to DOS. Then you can reformat safely under DOS. - Gene Stark From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 20:05:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA22709 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 20:05:01 -0700 Received: from bos1h.delphi.com (SYSTEM@bos1h.delphi.com [192.80.63.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA22690 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 20:04:55 -0700 From: ROBBINSW@delphi.com Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.3-9 #7804) id <01HQFL6CS4CK93FQQY@delphi.com>; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 23:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PS2 Huh... Maybe?! To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <01HQFL6CSE0693FQQY@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I realize this is a stupid question, but I'm hoping for some positive answer to my question as to any chance of running your UNIX (FreeBSD) on my PS2 model 70 (486DX33)? I read that it isn't working, as yet, on MCA bus systems, but will it work enough for me to starting learning? Send reply to: robbinsw@delphi.com or 75031.2601@compuserve.com Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 20:12:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA23070 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 20:12:14 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA23064 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 20:12:13 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQypmi08772; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:12:10 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA22493 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 12 May 1995 22:12:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 22:12:10 -0500 From: Don Dunbar Message-Id: <199505130312.AA22493@ipxpress.aws.waii.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: LiNetFreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well Terry, you seem to have outdone yourself again ... That message answered all my questions. I tried to install NetBSD 1.0 before I got Free2.0 and the install procedure sucked a lot! I am starting to wonder if the Net & Free people shouldn't just get together in one big programming lab and, like, try to make a brand new 4.4-BSD OS together with an excellent ports collection that beats the hell outta Linux. So many people think that Linux is the _only_ Unix OS for x86'es... You guys need to advertise or something. I try. I convinced 3 Linux users at least to try FreeBSD via IRC and MUSHes (sounds stupid) back when I had no life and computers were my only friends. :) Now I'm Alex 'The Party Man' Dunbar aka Alex 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds' Dunbar aka Alex 'The Houston Stud' Dunbar aka Alex 'Beer' Dunbar aka Alex 'The //Other// Enlightened One' Dunbar son of Don From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 23:56:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA04611 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:56:26 -0700 Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA04605 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:56:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA09228; Sat, 13 May 1995 08:32:55 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199505130632.IAA09228@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: DOS emulator To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 08:32:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee, questions@FreeBSD.org, SELPHJ@alpha.obu.edu In-Reply-To: <9504251820.AA00590@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Apr 25, 95 12:19:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 813 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > By definition, on Intel hardware, DOSEMU is going to be potentially > several orders of magnitude faster than PCEMU. I think "several"<=2, consider that you can even optimize some things (e.g. REP instructions) in an instruction-level emulator. PCEMU can still run perfectly some small useful applications. I have tried the latest Word on a PowerMac 7100, and it doesn't look any faster than VI under PCEMU. There are so many ways to slow down things... Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 12 23:57:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA04668 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:57:53 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easyr.easynet.net [198.67.38.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA04661 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:57:50 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sAAtE-000rdTC; Fri, 12 May 95 23:41 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: Long Sector Reads? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 23:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 683 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to read Mode 2 Form 2 sectors from a CDROM under FreeBSD. Any ideas on how I might do this? What are Mode 2 Form 2 sectors you ask? On the regular ole CDROM, sectors are made of 2048 data bytes and around 233 bytes of EEC data. Mode 2 Form 2 sectors don't have an EEC section. The entire 2048+233 bytes form a single 2263 or so byte sector. These Mode 2 Form 2 sectors can be read via MSDOS'es mscdex READLONG call on CDROM drives which are capable of reading Mode 2 Form 2 sectors. What I am looking for is some direction on how I might go about reading these Mode 2 Form 2 sectors via the FreeBSD SCSI device drivers. Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 13 01:12:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA08638 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 May 1995 01:12:18 -0700 Received: from frodi.cs.uop.edu (frodi.cs.uop.edu [138.9.200.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA08628 for ; Sat, 13 May 1995 01:12:13 -0700 Received: from uop.cs.uop.edu by frodi.cs.uop.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA17258; Sat, 13 May 1995 01:12:21 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 01:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Tiggie To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ld.so question??? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What does this mean when I type startx at the csh prompt. ld.so: xinit: libgcc.so.261.0: Undefined error: 0 A similar thing happens when I type fortune also. Did some part of my binaries not install correctly from SNAP041295? Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 13 09:17:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA05196 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 May 1995 09:17:07 -0700 Received: from galois.nscf.org (Galois.nscf.org [192.48.117.201]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA05189 for ; Sat, 13 May 1995 09:17:02 -0700 Received: by galois.nscf.org with UUCP (5.67/1.2) id AA00847; Sat, 13 May 95 11:41:07 -0400 Received: by wa4phy.ASYNC.COM (5.65/Smail2.5/02-15-88) id AA17301; Sat, 13 May 95 11:41:39 -0400 Received: (from bao@localhost) by saigon.async.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00132; Sat, 13 May 1995 11:29:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 11:29:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bao Chau Ha To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 driver Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is the Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 ethernet card supported in the latest SNAP? If it is, which one is it since I need to reconfigure it? I posted the same question earlier, but I don't think I have gotten any responses yet. Thanks. Bao -- Bao Chau Ha (bao@saigon.async.com) Nuclear chemical engineer by day, Linux hacker by night and weekends. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 13 10:11:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA06014 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:11:39 -0700 Received: from dtr.com (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06008 for ; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:11:36 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA16913 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:00:20 -0700 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA16790 for bmk@dtr.com; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:00:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199505131700.JAA16790@dtr.com> Subject: Re: Problems with ypbind & other processes To: bmk@dtr.com Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 09:59:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199505130230.TAA28153@dtr.com> from "bmk@dtr.com" at May 12, 95 07:30:05 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 577 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a reason why 'calendar -a' and 'locate.updatedb' as run out of > /etc/daily and /etc/weekly on 0322-SNAP dump core when run with ypbind? Problem found and solved. (And it was quotacheck -a, not locate.updatedb - I'm having an unrelated problem with that.) As it turns out there was a bogus entry in the master.passwd NIS map - although I have no clue how it got there. > On a related note, it appears that repquota doesn't know to look at the > NIS maps. This problem is also fixed. Now if I can just fix the rest of the problems I'm having with quotas. :( From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 13 17:13:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA16203 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 May 1995 17:13:58 -0700 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA16195 for ; Sat, 13 May 1995 17:13:56 -0700 From: AlexAdroog@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA251140401; Sat, 13 May 1995 20:13:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 20:13:21 -0400 Message-Id: <950513201319_117781935@aol.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: DES encryption Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have added the DES encryption package to my v2.0 FreeBSD and i was wondering if it is installed to run automatically. I am unable to find the shadow pass file. Any help would be appreciated. ThanX! -Timothy From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 13 19:15:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA17893 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 May 1995 19:15:13 -0700 Received: from bonkers (pm4_12.digital.net [198.69.104.172]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17886 for ; Sat, 13 May 1995 19:15:02 -0700 Received: (from kcw@localhost) by bonkers (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA00222; Sat, 13 May 1995 22:13:33 -0400 From: Ken Whedbee Message-Id: <199505140213.WAA00222@bonkers> Subject: Re: Anyone linked with Hungry ViewKit ? SOLVED ! To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 22:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl Reply-To: whedbee@ddi.digital.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1166 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anybody using FreeBSD managed to link a program using the > Hungry Programmer's version of ViewKit ? I tried compiling > the equivalent of "hello world" below but couldn't get it to link. [ ... ] > % g++ -I/usr/X11R6/include -o vk_generic -L/usr/X11R6/lib vk_generic.C -lvk > -lXm -lXmu -lXt -lX11 > > and got: > > VkComponent.o: Undefined symbol `___16VkCallbackObject' referenced from text > segment > VkComponent.o: Undefined symbol `_callCallbacks__16VkCallbackObjectPCcPv' > referenced from text segment I finally found out that the problem was with ranlib choking and not producing a random library. It complained of a wrong format. So I threw in a -T to truncate with "ar cruTv ...." and was next able to produce a random library with ranlib. After that, everything linked OK. So is it true you are only able to get a random library if the object names are truncated to 15 chars or less ? For more info on what ViewKit is (it's a Motif/C++ API) read the cool paper at: http://www.sgi.com/Technology/C_Motif_paper.html The Hungry ViewKit is at: http://www.cs.uidaho.edu:8000/hungry/viewkit/ -- Ken Whedbee whedbee@ddi.digital.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 13 22:15:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA23733 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 May 1995 22:15:43 -0700 Received: from RosedeLima.Vir.com (RosedeLima.Vir.com [199.84.154.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA23727 for ; Sat, 13 May 1995 22:15:41 -0700 Received: from ipdyne26.vir.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id XAA26250; Sat, 13 May 1995 23:57:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 23:57:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199505140457.XAA26250@Vir.com> X-Sender: procecorjb@vir.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: procecorjb@Vir.com (Robert Burns) Subject: Undefined symbol '_crypt' referenced from text segment Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When compiling various ports i get the message: Undefined symbol '_crypt' referenced from text segment just before I get an ERROR. Am I missing a link to a library? This seems to be an reoccuring error. Can someone tell me how to fix it? Robert Burns procecorjb@vir.com mtl,ca From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 13 23:30:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA24750 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 May 1995 23:30:01 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA24737 for ; Sat, 13 May 1995 23:29:59 -0700 From: AlexAdroog@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA067582967; Sun, 14 May 1995 02:29:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 02:29:27 -0400 Message-Id: <950514022925_118050362@aol.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Printing Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ye all, Yet another question, i am working on this printing thing. O.k. i am just trying to test out a simpl e little 9pin epson. I am just using the /etc/printcap file and i uncommented it. o.k. the daemon is loaded in /etc/rc. now the printcap is calling for, or refering to, lp=/dev/lp. Well when consulting the /dev directory i am confirming what the daemon is tellling me. There is no file present. I have some other lp* file , but no lp file. Any clues? Thanx much! -Timothy