From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 25 08:23:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA23707 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 08:23:20 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23701 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 08:23:17 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA23396 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:23:09 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Sun, 25 Jun 95 10:23 CDT Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Sun, 25 Jun 95 10:23 CDT Message-Id: Subject: 210MB enough? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:23:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Perry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 173 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for a hard drive to put FreeBSD on. Would 210MB be enough? I want to have alot of toys, internet programs, X-window, etc. If not, what size do you recommend? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 25 11:16:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA00444 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 11:16:17 -0700 Received: from cyclops (ppp16.hisd.harris.com [158.147.1.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA00433 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 11:16:06 -0700 Received: (from jleppek@localhost) by cyclops (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00556; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 14:15:51 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 14:15:51 -0400 From: Jim Leppek Message-Id: <199506251815.OAA00556@cyclops> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: tcpblast Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was running the following: tcpblast 127.0.0.1 and got some strange results would anyone care to explain them? this is on a DX4/100 16Meg, X is running with three idle xterms. the system is a 2.0.5R, only the test is active, no build worlds or anything :-) (the use of my hostname, localhost, or 127.0.0.1 makes no difference) these tests were run in a row, I just "up arrowed" and changed the number of blocks. The thruput varies greatly, is this normal? It seems like after I run tcpblast I need to wait 30-60 seconds to let things calm down, then the thruput climbs again!! the amount sent also seems to have an affect. the results: 8000 KB in 2878 msec = 22771369.0 kbit/s = 2846421.1 kByte/s = 2.8 MByte/s 8000 KB in 87269 msec = 750965.4 kbit/s = 93870.7 kByte/s = 0.1 MByte/s 7000 KB in 4117 msec = 13928588.8 kbit/s = 1741073.6 kByte/s = 1.7 MByte/s 7000 KB in 4001 msec = 14332416.9 kbit/s = 1791552.1 kByte/s = 1.7 MByte/s 7000 KB in 4247 msec = 13502236.9 kbit/s = 1687779.6 kByte/s = 1.6 MByte/s 9000 KB in 99839 msec = 738468.9 kbit/s = 92308.6 kByte/s = 0.1 MByte/s 9000 KB in 129939 msec = 567404.7 kbit/s = 70925.6 kByte/s = 0.1 MByte/s 6000 KB in 3552 msec = 13837837.8 kbit/s = 1729729.7 kByte/s = 1.7 MByte/s 6000 KB in 3414 msec = 14397188.0 kbit/s = 1799648.5 kByte/s = 1.8 MByte/s 6000 KB in 3474 msec = 14148532.0 kbit/s = 1768566.5 kByte/s = 1.7 MByte/s 7000 KB in 35832 msec = 1600357.2 kbit/s = 200044.7 kByte/s = 0.2 MByte/s 7000 KB in 3912 msec = 14658486.7 kbit/s = 1832310.8 kByte/s = 1.8 MByte/s 7000 KB in 4050 msec = 14159012.3 kbit/s = 1769876.5 kByte/s = 1.7 MByte/s 8000 KB in 4739 msec = 13829077.9 kbit/s = 1728634.7 kByte/s = 1.7 MByte/s 8000 KB in 13560 msec = 4833038.3 kbit/s = 604129.8 kByte/s = 0.6 MByte/s 8000 KB in 4603 msec = 14237671.1 kbit/s = 1779708.9 kByte/s = 1.7 MByte/s 8000 KB in 4827 msec = 13576962.9 kbit/s = 1697120.4 kByte/s = 1.7 MByte/s 8000 KB in 112808 msec = 580951.7 kbit/s = 72619.0 kByte/s = 0.1 MByte/s 8000 KB in 5044 msec = 12992862.8 kbit/s = 1624107.9 kByte/s = 1.6 MByte/s 8000 KB in 92055 msec = 711922.2 kbit/s = 88990.3 kByte/s = 0.1 MByte/s Thanks for any insight Jim From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 25 18:53:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA16339 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 18:53:10 -0700 Received: from emunix.emich.edu (emunix.emich.edu [164.76.4.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA16333 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 18:53:08 -0700 Received: by emunix.emich.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04755; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:54:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:54:53 -0400 From: apearlst@emunix.emich.edu (Arona Pearlstein) Message-Id: <9506260154.AA04755@emunix.emich.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Drastic slow down of login when running ppp server Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have configured my machine as a ppp server, exactly as mentioned in the ppp man pages. Everything is working just fine, except for one peculiar thing: when (and only when) ppp -direct is running, shell spawning take over 30 seconds to complete. This applies to both login and su. As soon as the incoming ppp connection is terminated, things go back to normal. Also, this applies to ANY shell spawning on ANY of the terminals on the system. This happens only when ppp is acting as a server. when I use ppp to dialout, this does not happen. Help appreciated! From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 25 20:34:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA20438 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 20:34:09 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20426 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 20:33:56 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA15304; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:03:16 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506260333.NAA15304@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Free BSD CD To: mibst14+@pitt.edu (Michael Balaga) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:03:16 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Balaga" at Jun 23, 95 11:28:47 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 816 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Michael Balaga stands accused of saying: > > I have a non SCSI CD drive in my PC. If I purchase the CD, using the > boot disks, can I install FreeBSD from it or add additional features > such as X-Windows? Maybe by copying the FreeBSD programs to my > hard drive? Your CD drive may be supported by FreeBSD; how about telling us which one it is that you have? You can also install from a DOS partition if it is not, yes. > Michael -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 25 20:40:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA20661 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 20:40:53 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20654 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 20:40:44 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA15321; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:10:05 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506260340.NAA15321@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Setting up partitions To: Nik.Clayton@brunel.ac.uk (Nik Clayton) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:10:04 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4170.9506232235@ccws-20.brunel.ac.uk> from "Nik Clayton" at Jun 23, 95 11:35:43 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1927 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Nik Clayton stands accused of saying: > I'm about (in the next week or so) to set up a FreeBSD box. A Pentium > with 16Mb RAM and initially 1Gb of SCSI HD. ... > However, within the next four months it should become a major WWW > server, needing to support upwards of 10,000 hits a day. At this point > i'll be upgrading the memory to at least 32Mb, and probably adding extra > disk partitions. > > Has anyone got any pointers to a 'good' partitioning scheme for this? I > was planning on roughly 25Mb for '/', at least 64Mb for 'swap', 150Mb > for '/home' and the rest for '/usr' (maybe subdividing '/usr' and > '/usr/src' into two seperate partitions. Don't do that. Use a combined root/usr of between 200 and 400M, depending on whether you're planning on installing _all_ of the sources, or just the kernel source. Go for 2.5*RAM, or ~80M of swap, and then mount the rest of the disk somewhere anonymous and extensible. Some people use /export/* (a la SunOS), some use /NFS/*, I usually just use /localN. Then symlink into this arrangement; ie. /home becomes a symlink into /local0/home, /usr/local becomes a symlink into /local0/usrlocal etc. This keeps all of the OS code in one partition, and gives maximum flexibility when it comes to moving things around. > How easy is it to change the slice information once a disk has got info > on it? If, say, I wanted to increase the swap space from 64 to 128? Or > do I have to back everything up, re-slice and then restore? Not easy at all. Better to add another disk and swap on it 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 25 21:07:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA21671 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:07:32 -0700 Received: from icus.com (icus.com [198.252.182.104]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA21660 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:07:28 -0700 Received: (from Ufrshair@localhost) by icus.com (8.6.9/8.6.9-noident) with UUCP id XAA19178; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 23:04:36 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frshaire.wiz.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with UUCP id WAA05496; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 22:43:00 -0500 Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tenforwd.wiz.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA03004; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:54:41 GMT From: Jeff Haynes Message-Id: <199506252154.VAA03004@tenforwd.wiz.com> Subject: auvoxware server on FreeBSD To: nas@ncd.com Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:54:40 +0000 () Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1096 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am posting this to both the FreeBSD and NAS mailing lists... I can't seem to get the nas server to run correctly on FreeBSD 2.0.5R. The server starts ok, but when I run a client, the client times out because it can't find the server. Also, whenever I start the server, I get the following message on the console: PCM device 1 not installed. I think that I have the correct options in the kernel config file, but I guess I could have something wrong. Please point out any errors. Can someone please help me out. I don't subscribe to the nas mailing list, so could you please direct replies to me directly, or at least cc me if the info is of general interest. Here are the sound lines included in my kernel config file: controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr device pas0 at isa? port 0x388 irq 12 drq 3 vector pasintr device opl0 at isa? port 0x38a device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 tty I have a Pro Audio Basic sound card. Thanks for any help! -- Jeff Haynes jeff@tenforwd.wiz.com http:/www.cactus.org/~jhaynes/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 25 21:57:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA24086 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:57:31 -0700 Received: from virgo.ai.net (root@virgo.ai.net [198.69.44.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA24071 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 21:57:07 -0700 Received: from aries.ai.net (aries.ai.net [198.69.44.1]) by virgo.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA01796 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 00:58:52 -0400 Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id AAA13765; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 00:56:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 00:56:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Multiport hardware - how is it implemented in source? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk For the multiport hardware supported by BSD currently, is it able to take advantage of the processors most of them have built on to reduce interrupt load on the system? does anyone have any experience running 16 28.8 modems off of say a Boca 16 off a 486 running BSD? Thanks for help or any suggestions, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 02:41:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA04981 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 02:41:03 -0700 Received: from virgo.ai.net (root@virgo.ai.net [198.69.44.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA04966 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 02:40:59 -0700 Received: from aries.ai.net (aries.ai.net [198.69.44.1]) by virgo.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA01946 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 05:42:51 -0400 Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id FAA15438; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 05:40:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 05:40:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP equivalent to sliplogin? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there such a beast? Thanks. -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 04:58:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA09794 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 04:58:53 -0700 Received: from up8.univ-paris8.fr (up8.univ-paris8.fr [193.54.155.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA09788 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 04:58:45 -0700 Received: from gna.gna.org (gna.mime.univ-paris8.fr [193.54.153.26]) by up8.univ-paris8.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA14909 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:03:30 +0200 Received: (from uuirps@localhost) by gna.gna.org (8.6.10/8.6.12) with UUCP id NAA04522 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:48:23 +0200 Received: from morris by irps.gna.org (senmail 8.6.9/9.0). id NAA14931 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:44:25 GMT Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:44:25 GMT From: Christian Chapel Message-Id: <199506261344.NAA14931@irps.gna.org> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Subject: About signal ... Hello, I am a happy user of FreeBSD-2.0.x I use FreeBSD at home and in university at Paris (Paris 8) in a small laboratorie (irps) I want to use sigal: sigaltstack, sigaction, setitimer. With sigaction, setitimer, there are no problem. But I don't try to use 'sigaltstack'. The 'man' give little explanation. I ask your if they have informations (doc, FAQ) or if you can give me an example of what it does. Thanks PS: Congratulations for the FreeBSD Core Team. We were some friends who run with FreeBSD since 386bsd, FreeBSD 1.x ... Christian CHAPEL Email: chris@awawak.gna.org 4 Rue de la Chapelle Email: saline@irps.gna.org 75018 PARIS Phone: +33 1 40 38 38 29 (home) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 05:31:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA10716 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 05:31:48 -0700 Received: from relay.philips.nl (relay.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA10710 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 05:31:46 -0700 Received: from knox.pcec.philips.com ([130.140.74.243]) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) with SMTP id OAA09099 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:30:56 +0200 Received: from eis16.philips.com by knox.pcec.philips.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26065; Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:30:27 EDT Received: by eis16.philips.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07790; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:30:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:30:28 -0400 From: wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com (ED WOLPERT ) Message-Id: <9506261230.AA07790@eis16.philips.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ppp -auto question Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Folks- Can anyone give advice on PPP with the -auto switch? I've got it running, but it has a habbit of working in a strange way. When it first starts, before anyone tries to connect to an external host, when people log in, or make a new shell (tcsh) (even in X windows), it does not try to make a connection to my ppp provider. However, after it has made a connection, and closed it due to a timeout... for everyone but root, when a new shell (tcsh) is started, it automatically opens up the ppp connection... there is no networking commands in the .cshrc or .login files. (In fact, the .cshrc and .login are the default ones created by the adduser command) Has anyone seen this? Does anyone have any ideas? -- Virtually, Edward Wolpert ------------------------------- "The best way out is always wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com | through." - Robert Frost wolpert@utk.edu | =============================== 'Give me a shell, and I'll Truth is what you believe. | give you the world.' (tm) ------------------------------- Fnord. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 06:06:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA11539 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 06:06:42 -0700 Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA11533 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 06:06:40 -0700 Received: by helix.nih.gov (940715.SGI.52/1.35(m-sg-1.0)) id AA20295; Mon, 26 Jun 95 09:06:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 09:06:38 -0400 From: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon) Message-Id: <9506261306.AA20295@helix.nih.gov> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: News piece in Washington Post this morning Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry I couldn't find FreeBSD mentioned in a better light :-( Here is a complete transcription from a box on page 17 of the Washington Business section of the Washington Post, June 26, 1995: << DIGITALFLUBS A piece of security software widely used on computer networks has a hole in it. The federally funded Computer Emergency Response Team said it has distributed instructions on how to correct the problem in FreeBSD, a program created by a software engineer in the Netherlands. In some circumstances, the hole lets people tapping into a computer see and alter informaiton that should be off-limits to them. FreeBSD is an "enhancement" to S/Key, a program that controls password access to networked computers. S/Key itself does not have the problem. >> Jordan, you often get blamed for FreeBSD. So what did you do this time? Chuck Bacon - crtb@helix.nih.gov ABHOR SECRECY - DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 07:32:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA14640 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:32:17 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA14634 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:32:15 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA16116; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:01:06 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506261431.AAA16116@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FBSD 2.xR: AIC7xxx driver vs. st() driver vs. tape drives To: jmb@kryten.Atinc.COM (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:01:06 +0930 (CST) Cc: sheeme@corpcomm.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jun 24, 95 09:50:29 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1411 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler stands accused of saying: > > Jun 20 23:01:02 Fridmani /kernel: st0(uha0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST \ > > csi:10,8,0,0 asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB field replaceable unit: 2 > > Jun 20 23:01:02 Fridmani /kernel: st0: Cannot set selected mode > > with release 2.0R, i get similar problems using an archive viper 150, > ncr810 and asus sp3g. > > st0(ncr1:5:0): illegal request > st0: Cannot set selected modest0(ncr1:5:0): illegal request > st0: Cannot set selected modest0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 The two errors here are _very_ different. The first is nasty, the second is the 'media changed' "error". > afterward a 'mt -f /dev/rst0 rewind' is enough to kick the > drive/driver so i can use it. strange. No, normal. Admittedly, the driver could be made smarter about it, but that would break other things. In reality, it's a flaw in the SCSI spec, and has probably been addressed in later versions. > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 07:33:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA14758 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:33:25 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA14749 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:33:22 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA16125; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:03:21 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506261433.AAA16125@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: HELP To: winky@pixi.com (Lawrence J M Lau) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:03:20 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199506250230.QAA09148@mailrelay.pixi.com> from "Lawrence J M Lau" at Jun 24, 95 04:30:13 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1279 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Lawrence J M Lau stands accused of saying: > I just bought a copy of FreeBSD 2.0 from Walnut Creek. When I get to > the point where it asks me from what media I'm installing from and hit > "CD-ROM", I get an error telling me that it cannot find the device. > I have an SIIG, Inc. SCSI Controller SCSI-Pro VL card and a PLEXTOR 6X > CD-ROM drive. > Can somebody help me out? Are there device drivers being written for > SIIG, Inc. components? Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 (info from Walnut Creek) > support my components. Please e-mail me back at: Well, that depends - there may be a driver written already for your card, but you'll have to give us some more information about it. How about telling us whether the card claims to be compatible with anything else, and perhaps the part numbers off the top of the larger chips on the SCSI card. Without these details, there's not much I can offer 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 07:52:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA15866 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:52:51 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.atinc.com [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA15859 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:52:46 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id KAA02176; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 10:48:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 10:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: FBSD 2.xR: AIC7xxx driver vs. st() driver vs. tape drives To: Michael Smith cc: sheeme@corpcomm.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199506261431.AAA16116@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > The two errors here are _very_ different. The first is nasty, the > second is the 'media changed' "error". > > > afterward a 'mt -f /dev/rst0 rewind' is enough to kick the > > drive/driver so i can use it. strange. > > No, normal. Admittedly, the driver could be made smarter about it, but > that would break other things. In reality, it's a flaw in the SCSI > spec, and has probably been addressed in later versions. i dont follow you, could you explain this somewhat more fully. i am getting up to speed on scsi now...just read a fujitsi product guide and i NEED to get a copy of the spec. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 08:41:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA19327 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:41:31 -0700 Received: from deltanet.com (server1.deltanet.com [199.171.190.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA19317 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:41:26 -0700 From: rob.rose@bigbear.com Received: from bigbear.com by deltanet.com with UUCP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA04474; Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:41:24 -0700 Received: by bigbear.com id 0C3MK002 Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:36:49 -0800 Message-Id: <9506260836.0C3MK00@bigbear.com> Organization: Big Bear Online -> America's computer store & satellite HUB X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:36:49 -0800 Subject: install/cd type To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ive got a 486/66 with a conner ide 540 on a generic vlb controller. I also have the dreaded sony 2x cheapo cdrom drive running on a ess tech ide sound card (soundblaster clone). from what ive read on the cd docs, my cdrom/sound card are not supported at all. what exactly does this mean? can i install freebsd using this cd and after the install is complete i wont be able to access the cdrom? or does this mean that i cant install using this cdrom because freebsd takes over at some point during the installation and wont recognize the cdrom thus halting the install? on the other hand, has support for the sony/soundcard setup been added since the cd docs were written? tia =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- / BIG BEAR ONLINE INFORMATION SERVICE SERVING BIG BEAR VALLEY \ - Ski/Tourist & System Info Send Blank Email to info@bigbear.com - \ FREEBSD UNIX Mail List 4 TBBS/ISP SysOp's fbsdlist@bigbear.com / - Modem (909)866-2138 28.8 Fido 1:207/501 Inet sysop@bigbear.com - / Computer/Network parts at wholesale prices call (909)866-2196 \ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 08:54:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA20260 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:54:57 -0700 Received: from virgo.ai.net (root@virgo.ai.net [198.69.44.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA20253 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:54:51 -0700 Received: from aries.ai.net (aries.ai.net [198.69.44.1]) by virgo.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA02136 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:56:49 -0400 Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id LAA20401; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:54:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Config dumping core. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Not know how long it has been since I last compiled a kernel, I tried building one yesterday, first my original, and then GENERIC when that didn't work. Got the same result: loading kernel vm_swap.o: Definition of symbol '_swdevt' (multiply defined) swapkernel.o: Definition of symbol 'swdevt' (multiply defined) So figuring nothing had changed in my files, much less GENERIC, I rebuild and reinstalled a new supped config, and when I run it, it dumps core [config] after it wipes out the GENERIC directory and puts in a 0 byte ioconf.c Could this be a problem with a -current sup'd a few hours ago or something more basic changing a while ago that I am only now becoming aware of? Thanks, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 10:10:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA22767 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 10:10:58 -0700 Received: from unx.ahoynet.com (unx.ahoynet.com [198.186.206.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA22761 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 10:10:51 -0700 From: maloneyb@cybercity.com Received: from cybercity.com by unx.ahoynet.com id aa08711; 26 Jun 95 12:58 EDT Received: by cybercity.com (UUPM-1.51) id D9979Zd Mon, Jun 26, 1995 15:12:39 EDT Message-Id: <9506261512.D9979Zd@cybercity.com> X-Mailer: UUPlus Mail 1.51 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Drive 2 ques. Organization: Cybercity, inc. Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 15:12:38 EST Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am a new user to FreeBSD, although I am somewhat familiar with UNIX in general. I am having a minor installation problem. I am trying to install FreeBSD on my second drive, a Western Digital Caviar 1080MB drive. It IS configured correctly. When I install I set the partitions to ( I use the whole drive) a: 16 MB, mountpoint / b: 32 MB, swapspace c, d: leave at defaults... e: 10 MB, mountpoint /var f: 50 MB, mountpoint /usr/X11R6 g: the rest of the free space, mountpoint /usr As you can see, I've tried to stick to the sugguestions, to try to get it to work. Now, to the actual problem..... When it is finished with the initial installation, it reboots, I select the partition to boot from, it asks for the kernel, and I typy hd(1,a)/kernel, like I'm supposed to. Ok, all this runs fine and dandy until almost the end, where it hits a system panic and I have to reboot because it can't mount the root. Any ideas? Thanks, Brian Maloney From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 10:19:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA23373 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 10:19:37 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.atinc.com [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA23367 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 10:19:34 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id NAA05989; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:15:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:15:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Drive 2 ques. To: maloneyb@cybercity.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9506261512.D9979Zd@cybercity.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 26 Jun 1995 maloneyb@cybercity.com wrote: > UNIX in general. I am having a minor installation problem. I am trying > to install FreeBSD on my second drive, a Western Digital Caviar 1080MB ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Now, to the actual problem..... When it is finished with the initial > installation, it reboots, I select the partition to boot from, it asks > for the kernel, and I typy hd(1,a)/kernel, like I'm supposed to. Ok, > all this runs fine and dandy until almost the end, where it hits a > system panic and I have to reboot because it can't mount the root. Any > ideas? if you did not install the booteasy boot manager on the first AND the second disks, please do so. the bootmanager will allow you to select which disk to boot from and which os, if more than one is installed. booteasy will remember your most recent selection and default to that boot disk and os, if the timeout expires. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 11:04:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA25813 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:04:46 -0700 Received: from bronze.coil.com (bronze.coil.com [198.4.94.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA25806 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:04:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (echet@localhost) by bronze.coil.com (8.6.4/8.6.12) id OAA09310 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:07:41 -0400 From: Eric Chet Message-Id: <199506261807.OAA09310@bronze.coil.com> Subject: cc1 signal 11 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:07:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 266 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello I have been trying to compile rayshade for FreeBSD 2.0.5R. I get an error I don't know how to solve. "cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11" Could somebody give me some pointers in tracking this down? Thanks Eric -- echet@coil.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 11:25:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA26706 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:25:00 -0700 Received: from dca.net (dca.net [204.183.80.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA26700 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:24:57 -0700 Received: from dca.net (localhost.dca.net [127.0.0.1]) by dca.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA22647 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:24:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew White Reply-To: Andrew@dca.net To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Additions to FAQ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to propose two additions to the FAQ: 1. kernel: mb_map full I have had the above error message crash my machine several times. After some help from bugs@freebsd.org, it turns out that the value of NMBCLUSTERS was too low in src/sys/i386/include/param.h. Upping the default value from 256/512 to 1024/2048 is suggested for users running systems with heavy network I/O (many simultaneous TCP connections). Of course, recompiling the kernel and rebooting is necessary for this change to take effect. 2. Virtual Hosts via WWW To enable the "virtual host" service of the Apache WWW server (or other httpd servers that support virtual hosts -- I believe there is a patch available for NCSA's server), the following should be done: ifconfig $ifn alias arp -s pub Where is an additional IP address corresponding to the hostname of the "virtual host", $ifn refers to the name of the network interface (eg, "ed0"), and is the ethernet hardware address of $ifn. For example, ifconfig ed0 204.183.80.24 alias arp -s 204.183.80.24 0:0:c0:1:2:3 pub adds a virtual host for www.condyn.com (204.183.80.24). The ethernet hardware address can be found by looking at the output of "arp -a". I added the above commands for each "virtual host" to /etc/netstart, so that it takes effect after each reboot. -Andrew awhite@dca.net http://www.dca.net/ (work-related) Andrew@White.org http://www.white.org/ (personal) DCANET: The Delaware Common Access Network Call (302) 654-1019 or send mail to info@dca.net for more information. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 11:32:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA27182 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:32:24 -0700 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA27174 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:32:16 -0700 Received: from venus.batc.allied.com by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id AA13084 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:32:11 -0700 Received: from curly.allied.com (curly.batc.allied.com) by venus.batc.allied.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22428; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:49:52 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:49:52 EDT From: tom@batc.allied.com (Tom Roden) Message-Id: <9506261549.AA22428@venus.batc.allied.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.0.5 installation and MBR Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have ftp'd the 2.0.5 release from ftp.cdrom.com and I seem to have a problem getting the MBR installed. In previous versions you installed the MBR from fdisk (if you are installing FreeBSD on the second IDE drive as I am). The new version asks what boot manager to use. I have tried both the first and second choices, but the computer still only will boot DOS, no boot manager or F1 F5 prompt (as in < 2.0.5 releases). I can boot with the boot floppy and at the boot prompt tell it to boot from the second hard disk, then all is well (sort of). Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong??? Please respond to tom@batc.allied.com since I'm not on this list. Regards and thanks, Tom From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 11:48:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA28178 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:48:47 -0700 Received: from gvr.win.tue.nl (root@gvr.win.tue.nl [131.155.210.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA28170 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:48:44 -0700 Received: by gvr.win.tue.nl (8.6.10/1.53) id UAA07384; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 20:48:28 +0200 From: guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij) Message-Id: <199506261848.UAA07384@gvr.win.tue.nl> Subject: Re: News piece in Washington Post this morning To: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 20:48:28 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, wietse@gvr.win.tue.nl (Wietse Venema) In-Reply-To: <9506261306.AA20295@helix.nih.gov> from "Chuck Bacon" at Jun 26, 95 09:06:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1221 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Bacon wrote: > > Sorry I couldn't find FreeBSD mentioned in a better light :-( > Here is a complete transcription from a box on page 17 of the > Washington Business section of the Washington Post, June 26, 1995: > << > DIGITALFLUBS > > A piece of security software > widely used on computer networks > has a hole in it. > The federally funded Computer > Emergency Response Team said > it has distributed instructions on > how to correct the problem in > FreeBSD, a program created by a > software engineer in the > Netherlands. > In some circumstances, the > hole lets people tapping into a > computer see and alter > informaiton that should be > off-limits to them. > FreeBSD is an "enhancement" to > S/Key, a program that controls > password access to networked > computers. > S/Key itself does not have the > problem. > >> > Jordan, you often get blamed for FreeBSD. So what did you do this time? Woohaahahahah...I never seen so many bullshit in so little sentences.. Increadible how a few lines of information can be reshuffled intop such a rediculous piece of info :-(( -Guido cc: wietse@wzv.win.tue.nl From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 13:13:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA02373 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:13:12 -0700 Received: from dvals1.larc.nasa.gov (dvals1.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.4.96]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA02367 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:13:09 -0700 Received: (from branson@localhost) by dvals1.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA25861; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:12:58 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199506262012.QAA25861@dvals1.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: need help setting up backup schedule... To: greg@deathstar.med.miami.edu (ToxicWaste) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <9506261612.AA00329@leia.med.miami.edu> from "ToxicWaste" at Jun 26, 95 12:12:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 5421 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > What I would like to know is how to use the configuration > file (amanda.conf) to employ the backup schedule that I want. > Basically, I want a full backup done every week with incremental > backups on every day in between. Um... I have a question.. why? Amanda was designed to perform incrimental as well as full backups of all filesystems in a set over a period. Why force it to use an un-efficent backup method as daily incrimentals and weekend fulls? I have over 100 Gigs of filesystems across 80+ systems that are backed up completely over a two week period in three runs nightly. That means that at some time in the two weeks, a full backup is done and progressive incrimentals are done the rest of the time for all partitons in my disklist. This is somthing you might consider as an alternative to the aformentioned method. However I can point you in the right direction if this is the way you wish to use amanda. > I have looked at the explanation of the params in the > man page for amanda but am not sure how to use them to acheive > what i am aiming for. My guess is that some combination of dumpcycle > and tapecycle will do this but, instead of playing around with them > until i get it right, i was hoping that someone could point me in > the right direction. sort of. the best way is to have two seperate runs that go off, but first a more detailed explanation. here is a more detailed explanation of the parameters that most people have problems with: For those running amanda 2.1 or less mincyle This is the total number of days in your backup cycle. So if you wish to have your partitions recieve a full backup within a one week period and you do not run on the weekends, this number would be 5. maxcycle This is the total number of days plus the slide factor if amanda cannot fit in that disk for whatever reason ( bad tape, machine down, etc... ). So again in our model, if you are using 5 days as your cycle, this number could be 6 or greater.. although 7 would be suitable. For those running 2.2 or greater dumpcycle This is the total number of days in the cycle. If you wish your partitions to recieve a fill backup in a week then it will be one week. tapecycle This is the number of tapes in your active tape library. So you are backing 5 days of every week... and you want to keep 3 months of archives that would be 60 tapes. ( we have found that 6 months is a good number for the guy who "thought rm -rf *.o and typed rm -rf * .o" and hadn't touched a file in a couple of months.) Plus it is also a good idea to archive a full mincycle's worth of tapes every tapecycle and replace those tapes. this means that every 3 months and a week, take out those 5 tapes and put in 5 fresh ( and labeled ) ones. this way you change your tapes out and keep a lid on tape degradation and you have a working archive. OK ... hopefully this makes things a bit more apparent. Now onward ... To have it do daily incrimentals and fulls on the weekends you need two backup sets. First make one with all the partitions as is described and make your amanda.conf so that: - dumpcycle 1 week - tapecycle 60 tapes ( this is three months ) or however many you want. - org "FOO-Inc" ( This means that this is the incrimental dump ) define a few dumptypes with skip-full as a parameter: - define dumptype comp-medium-inc { comment " Compress medium priority incrementals" options compress, skip-full priority medium } - and make all your partitons listed in your diskfile with those dumptype dvals1 /scratch comp-medium-inc ok... that will take care of incrimentals for fulls: - dumpcycle 12 days ( This is the number of Saturdays that are in your incrimental tape cycle ) - tapecycle 12 ( This is the number dumps in the incrimental cycle) define a few more dumptypes with skip-incr as a parameter: - define dumptype comp-medium-full { comment " Compress medium priority full-dumps" options compress, skip-incr priority medium } - and make all your partitons listed in your diskfile with those dumptype dvals1 /home comp-high-full That should do it. set a cron tab entry to use the incrimentals every weekday and one to run the fulls on the weekends. > At the very least, if someone could give me a more detailed > explanation of how these params are used (the man page is pretty > brief), it would be greatly appreciated. I hope that this helps.. Again i cannot stress how much easier it is to have one backup run that runs throughout the week and takes care of deciding when partitions need incrimentals or fulls. Plus it is a much more efficent use of tape. One thing to remember is that you are limited to the storage size of your device. I have found that out of 100 gigs, i actually backup about 60% of that and I use gzip compression... I never maxout the tape drive. I regularly put 8 gigs compressed on an 8500. - branson -- MATHESON, E BRANSON E.B.MATHESON@LaRC.NASA.GOV Mail Stop 931 COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION NASA Langley Research Center Assigned to Operations Support Division Hampton, VA 23681-0001 Phone +1 804 864-9700 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 13:49:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA03995 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:49:43 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easy1.easynet.com [199.2.26.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA03989 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:49:39 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sQL6D-000rdFC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:49 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: broadcasting To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:49:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 476 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to setup a cable system on our in-house 100baseT network. That is broadcast a few "channels" (mpeg streams) and let users on our network "tune in" (connect to) the various streams with their decoders. I'm familiar with server/client programming point to point, but am unfamiliar with broadcasting. Could some kind soul point me to some docs on this broadcasting stuff? Oh yeah, everything is running on FreeBSD 2.0.5R. Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 14:12:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA05227 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:12:19 -0700 Received: from comp1.aiiad.com (aiiad.com [204.235.85.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA05216 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:12:10 -0700 From: BRUCE@AIIAD.COM Received: from [0.0.0.0] by comp1.aiiad.com id aa000657 Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:13:09 Eastern Daylight Time--100 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:09:06 PDT Subject: internet install To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon ENGP1, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailedby: NT SMTP/LISTSERVER v2.10 (ntmail@net-shopper.co.uk) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Thanks so much for freebsd. I'm trying to install over the internet and getting 'no checksum script' on the blue screen. in alt-f2, I see more errors: something about ncftp not finding a password entry, then : failed to look up host (do I need to register the proposed name for my bsd machine with dns even before its installed?), then: no checksum script. can you help? Thanks very much, Bruce Goldberg ------------------------------------- E-mail: BRUCE Date: 06/26/95 Time: 17:09:06 ------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 16:44:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA21461 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:44:14 -0700 Received: from kudonet.com (kudo.kudonet.com [165.227.52.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA21453 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:44:11 -0700 Received: by kudonet.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00468; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:45:27 -0700 From: datura@kudonet.com (Justin Cooper) Message-Id: <9506262345.AA00468@kudonet.com> Subject: extracting src from .aa .ab. files? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I installed FreeBSD 2.0.5 this way: copied the bindist, info, and man files to a dos partition, booted from the floppies, and ran the install. Now, I'm trying to rebuild the kernel and noticed I have nothing in my /src directory. I heard there is a script that will extract the source from all my .aa, .ab, .ac etc files that I still have on my dos partition...does anyone know of this? If not, what is the best way to get the source files (no I do not have a CD-ROM drive ;) Thanks, justin From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 17:17:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA25192 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:17:33 -0700 Received: from netris1 (corpcomm.net [199.165.217.101]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA25184 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:17:31 -0700 Received: from fgo1-a9.corpcomm.net by netris1 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02027; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:12:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:12:46 -0500 Message-Id: <9506270012.AA02027@netris1> X-Sender: sheeme@CorpComm.NET X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jmb@kryten.atinc.com From: sheeme@corpcomm.net (Steve Heemeyer) Subject: Re: FBSD 2.xR: AIC7xxx driver vs. st() driver vs. tape drives Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > >> The two errors here are _very_ different. The first is nasty, the >> second is the 'media changed' "error". >> >> > afterward a 'mt -f /dev/rst0 rewind' is enough to kick the >> > drive/driver so i can use it. strange. >> >> No, normal. Admittedly, the driver could be made smarter about it, but >> that would break other things. In reality, it's a flaw in the SCSI >> spec, and has probably been addressed in later versions. > > i dont follow you, could you explain this somewhat more fully. i >am getting up to speed on scsi now...just read a fujitsi product guide >and i NEED to get a copy of the spec. > >Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. > | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy >play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 >ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 > > I would be interested in a copy of the SCSI spec as well. I haven't been able to find anything useful, however I haven't been looking all that hard either. I'm not concerned about the ``st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0'' error as I am the ILLEGAL REQUEST. This didn't start to show up until I installed 2.0.5-Alpha. I haven't had a chance to try a different tape drive to see if there is a problem with the drive, but I find that unlikely.??! I did a make world with the sources as of June 23 and I am still seeing the problem. Steve Heemeyer sheeme@corpcomm.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 17:24:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA25693 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:24:26 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA25686 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:24:23 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14456(2)>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:23:44 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <49860>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:23:39 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broadcasting In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:49:40 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:23:24 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Jun26.172339pdt.49860@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message you write: >Could some kind soul point me to some docs on this broadcasting >stuff? You actually want to use multicast, not broadcast, as multicasts can go only to the machines that want them, and if you have multicast-capable routers your multicasts can cross subnets without an application-level gateway. You may want to look at the RTP spec, along with the MPEG profile, both available as Internet-Drafts from ds.internic.net:/internet-drafts : draft-ietf-avt-rtp-07.ps / draft-ietf-avt-rtp-07.txt draft-hoffman-rtp-mpeg-encap-01.txt You might have trouble if your MPEG codecs have no way to cope with loss, as for multicast applications you will need to use UDP. For such time-critical data as an MPEG stream, though, it doesn't make sense to try to be reliable; your decoder should just reset the codec at an appropriate point if it detects loss. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 17:43:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA27267 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:43:54 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easy1.easynet.com [199.2.26.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA27261 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:43:53 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sQOkx-000rcpC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:43 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: Re: rsh and connection refused To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:43:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199506261432.JAA25705@plains.nodak.edu> from "Mark Tinguely" at Jun 26, 95 09:32:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 588 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have two machine hooked up via a T1. After issuing the command: rsh 10.0.0.2 cat testfile | cat >/dev/null I can't issue any additional rsh's for 20 to 30 seconds. Running netstat -a I've noticed two sockets sitting open (1022/1023 on 10.0.0.2) after the above rsh exits. I have to wait till these sockets fully close before any additional rsh's will go through (not get connection refused). They are sitting there with the status (TIME_WAIT). I'm not running named, and have been using the IP numbers rather than the names. I'm running 2.0.5R. Thanks for the help, brian From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 17:53:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA27909 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:53:59 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA27899 ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:53:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199506270053.RAA27899@freefall.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: sheeme@corpcomm.net (Steve Heemeyer) cc: jmb@kryten.atinc.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD 2.xR: AIC7xxx driver vs. st() driver vs. tape drives In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:12:46 CDT." <9506270012.AA02027@netris1> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:53:56 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I would be interested in a copy of the SCSI spec as well. I haven't been >able to find anything useful, however I haven't been looking all that hard >either. Try http://abekas.com:8080/SCSI2/ -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 18:06:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA28972 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:06:18 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA28964 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:06:16 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA05808; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:06:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA17738; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:06:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199506270106.SAA17738@corbin.Root.COM> To: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsh and connection refused In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:43:59 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:06:38 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I have two machine hooked up via a T1. After issuing the command: > > rsh 10.0.0.2 cat testfile | cat >/dev/null > >I can't issue any additional rsh's for 20 to 30 seconds. > >Running netstat -a I've noticed two sockets sitting open (1022/1023 on >10.0.0.2) after the above rsh exits. I have to wait till these sockets >fully close before any additional rsh's will go through (not get >connection refused). They are sitting there with the status (TIME_WAIT). I just tried and I'm unable to reproduce the above problem. I wasn't using the 10.x.x.x pseudo-net, however. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 19:05:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA01361 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:05:13 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA01351 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:05:02 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA17165; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:35:11 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506270205.LAA17165@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FBSD 2.xR: AIC7xxx driver vs. st() driver vs. tape drives To: jmb@kryten.Atinc.COM (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:35:11 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, sheeme@corpcomm.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jun 26, 95 10:48:30 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1604 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler stands accused of saying: > > The two errors here are _very_ different. The first is nasty, the > > second is the 'media changed' "error". > > > > > afterward a 'mt -f /dev/rst0 rewind' is enough to kick the > > > drive/driver so i can use it. strange. > > > > No, normal. Admittedly, the driver could be made smarter about it, but > > that would break other things. In reality, it's a flaw in the SCSI > > spec, and has probably been addressed in later versions. > > i dont follow you, could you explain this somewhat more fully. i > am getting up to speed on scsi now...just read a fujitsi product guide > and i NEED to get a copy of the spec. Sure; when you change the tape in a tape drive, it 'tells' the host by returning a bogus error code. Essentially, it returns a Check Condition status, but Request Sense doesn't show an error. (SCSI gurus please correct me if I'm a little off on terminology here). Adding intelligence to the tape driver to deal with this is generally believed to be a Bad Idea. You can get both SCSI and ATA specification documents from ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/standards/ > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 19:16:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA02030 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:16:32 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA02024 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:16:27 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA17205; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:47:01 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506270217.LAA17205@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Drive 2 ques. To: maloneyb@cybercity.com Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:47:00 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9506261512.D9979Zd@cybercity.com> from "maloneyb@cybercity.com" at Jun 26, 95 03:12:38 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2269 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk maloneyb@cybercity.com stands accused of saying: > > Hi, I am a new user to FreeBSD, although I am somewhat familiar with > UNIX in general. I am having a minor installation problem. I am trying > to install FreeBSD on my second drive, a Western Digital Caviar 1080MB > drive. It IS configured correctly. When I install I set the partitions > to ( I use the whole drive) Your questions imply that you're running 2.0R, which is significantly out of date. If you bought it on CD from Walnut Creek, you should be able to exchange it for the 2.0.5R set. > a: 16 MB, mountpoint / > b: 32 MB, swapspace > c, d: leave at defaults... > e: 10 MB, mountpoint /var > f: 50 MB, mountpoint /usr/X11R6 > g: the rest of the free space, mountpoint /usr This is a reallly bad partitioning scheme. 16M is too small for /, and 32M swap is a bad decision if you have a gig of disk. On a disk like that, I'd suggest 300M combined / and /usr, 2.5*RAM or 40M (whichever is larger) for swap, and mount the rest on /local0 or somewhere else convenient. > Now, to the actual problem..... When it is finished with the initial > installation, it reboots, I select the partition to boot from, it asks > for the kernel, and I typy hd(1,a)/kernel, like I'm supposed to. Ok, > all this runs fine and dandy until almost the end, where it hits a > system panic and I have to reboot because it can't mount the root. Any > ideas? Yes, that should be wd(1,a)/kernel. If you read the boot prompt, hd() is a special case for when you have a wd (IDE) disk first, and you want to boot from the second BIOS disk, which is the first sd (SCSI) disk. > Brian Maloney Abandon 2.0R before you go any further; 2.0.5 will serve you much better. Don't forget to install a boot selector on your first harddisk, and install the standard MBR on the FreeBSD disk. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 19:53:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA03264 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:53:00 -0700 Received: from saber (d2.ptw.com [204.178.60.50]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA03256 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:52:43 -0700 Received: (from duane@localhost) by saber (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00408; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:09:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:09:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Duane R. Ellison" X-Sender: duane@saber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing optinos Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I think I remember being able to do this but I can not find the information to re-fresh my memory. Is there a way to add options to an installation without doing a complete re-install? I installed 2.0.5-RELEASE the other dia via FTP (through PPP - which was a GREAT WAY for the installation, since I haven't recieved the CD yet) just the basic system and now I would like to install the GNU info, security and some other stuff. I know how to do the packages but now the actuall info.aa type stuff. Thanks for the help. Duane... ____________________________________________________________________________ Duane Ellison duane@gargamel.ptw.com Edwards, CA 73514.1502@compuserve.com http://gargamel.ptw.com/~duane From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 22:00:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA06263 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:00:50 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA06257 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:00:49 -0700 Received: from wsantee.oz.net by emerald.oz.net via ESMTP (8.6.12/930416.SGI) for id EAA04013; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:58:25 GMT Received: (from wsantee@localhost) by wsantee.oz.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA05388 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:55:32 -0700 From: Wes Santee Message-Id: <199506270455.VAA05388@wsantee.oz.net> Subject: Any way to get hard links to directories? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:55:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 638 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Okay, I know that you aren't supposed to be able to create a hard link to a directory. In the ln(1) man page, however, it states that "Hard links may not normally refer to directories and may not span filesystems." Does that mean there is some way to create hard links to directories in a 'non-normal' way? If so, are there consequences? Cheers, -- ( -Wes Santee | You're never dead 'til you're ) ( wsantee@wsantee.oz.net | out of quarters. --InSoc ) ( http://www.oz.net/~wsantee \------------------------------ ) ( O S / 2 W A R P F r e e B S D ) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 22:09:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA06601 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:09:10 -0700 Received: from legend (legend.txdirect.net [204.57.120.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA06595 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:09:08 -0700 Received: by legend (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08848; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:05:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:05:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Snow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: swapspace ever increase? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been looking at swapinfo and watching more and more get used as my system stays up and I run programs. Will my free space ever increase? I can start with 22% usage and then run several programs (ie. netscape) and check it and I'm up to 73% usage. The usage never goes down... --- Rob Snow rsnow@txdirect.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 26 22:37:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA07149 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:37:09 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA07143 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:37:05 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA17528; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 15:07:19 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506270537.PAA17528@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Any way to get hard links to directories? To: wsantee@wsantee.oz.net (Wes Santee) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 15:07:19 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506270455.VAA05388@wsantee.oz.net> from "Wes Santee" at Jun 26, 95 09:55:31 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1262 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Wes Santee stands accused of saying: > Okay, I know that you aren't supposed to be able to create a hard > link to a directory. In the ln(1) man page, however, it states that > "Hard links may not normally refer to directories and may not span > filesystems." > > Does that mean there is some way to create hard links to directories > in a 'non-normal' way? If so, are there consequences? Yes. FSCK will spew at you, and may digest your filesystem. I haven't tried this under 2.0.5, so the situation may have changed. There is _never_ a good reason to hard-link directories. Think about what would happen to a recursive-descent algorithm confronted with a directory linked to one of its parents. Having said that, as root you _can_ create a hard link to a directory. I'd do it just _after_ a backup. > ( -Wes Santee | You're never dead 'til you're ) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 01:26:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA15400 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:26:42 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA15394 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:26:40 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA06185; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:26:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA17883; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:27:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199506270827.BAA17883@corbin.Root.COM> To: Robert Snow cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swapspace ever increase? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 95 00:05:24 CDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:27:02 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I've been looking at swapinfo and watching more and more get used as my >system stays up and I run programs. Will my free space ever increase? > >I can start with 22% usage and then run several programs (ie. netscape) >and check it and I'm up to 73% usage. The usage never goes down... Can you be more specific about how much space you're talking about? All of the standard system daemons together require about 3MB of swap space. They don't get paged out until they need to be, but once this happens, the space is allocated for them until they are killed. If you're running X, then the requirements are much higher (about 15MB of swap). -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 03:19:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA25742 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:19:46 -0700 Received: from relay.philips.nl (relay.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA25732 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:19:42 -0700 Received: from cnps.lss.cp.philips.com ([130.144.198.1]) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) with SMTP id MAA22599 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:18:40 +0200 Received: from spooky.lss.cp.philips.com by cnps.lss.cp.philips.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sQYil-0000yvC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:22 MET Received: by spooky.lss.cp.philips.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQXgf-000HneC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:16 MET DST Message-Id: From: guido@spooky.lss.cp.philips.com (Guido van Rooij) Subject: how to turn local system into Xterminal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:16:09 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Guido.vanRooij@nl.cis.philips.com (Guido van Rooij) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 400 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a complete FreeBSD (2.0.5R) and XFree 3.1.1 setup. I like to have the possibility to sometimes just act as an xterminal, without having to boot again. Of course I should configure a remote machines xdm so it is willing to serve me. But what should I do locally? Just starting an xserver isn't enough of course..How do I tell the remote machine it should open up the xdm logon window? -Guido From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 03:41:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA27297 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:41:02 -0700 Received: from oxmail2.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA27285 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:40:59 -0700 Received: from vax.ox.ac.uk by oxmail2.ox.ac.uk. with SMTP (PP) id <02022-0@oxmail2.ox.ac.uk.>; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:40:38 +0100 Received: from 163.1.67.21 by vax.ox.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:39:59 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:36:48 +0100 To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com From: marques@vax.ox.ac.uk (Jose Marques) Subject: Where has options.doc gone in 2.0.5? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In FreeBSD 1.1.1.5R there was a file "/usr/src/sys/doc/options.doc" that documented all the kernal configuration file options. In FreeBSD 2.0.5 there no sign of this file. Is the LINT config the only documentation now available? -- Jose Marques From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 04:25:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA02118 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:25:46 -0700 Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA02094 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 04:25:30 -0700 Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26229; Tue, 27 Jun 95 13:26:27 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 13:26:27 +0100 From: jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr (Jean-Marc Zucconi) Message-Id: <9506271226.AA26229@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> To: davidg@root.com Cc: rsnow@legend.txdirect.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506270827.BAA17883@corbin.Root.COM> (message from David Greenman on Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:27:02 -0700) Subject: Re: swapspace ever increase? X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> David Greenman writes: >> I've been looking at swapinfo and watching more and more get used as my >> system stays up and I run programs. Will my free space ever increase? >> >> I can start with 22% usage and then run several programs (ie. netscape) >> and check it and I'm up to 73% usage. The usage never goes down... > Can you be more specific about how much space you're talking about? All of > the standard system daemons together require about 3MB of swap space. They > don't get paged out until they need to be, but once this happens, the space is > allocated for them until they are killed. If you're running X, then the > requirements are much higher (about 15MB of swap). I have noticed this problem too, but in my case mfs is the culprit. My /tmp is a mfs: I can fill the swap in creating a large file on /tmp and then deleting it. There is something strange though: I swap on wd0 and sd0 and /tmp uses sd0. If i creat/delete a large file on /tmp, this also fills wd0: $ swapinfo -k Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/wd0b 20480 20068 348 98% Interleaved /dev/sd0b 58968 19712 39192 33% Interleaved Total 79320 39780 39540 50% (after a 19Mb file creation/deletion) > -DG _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 06:39:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA11910 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 06:39:52 -0700 Received: from enterprise.america.com (root@enterprise.america.com [199.170.102.100]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA11902 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 06:39:50 -0700 Received: by enterprise.america.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0sQaqj-001w6AC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 09:38 EDT Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:38:45 -0400 (EDT) From: PageFault X-Sender: daredevl@enterprise To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installation troubles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to do a PPP install of FreeBSD and I am having troubles. I enter all the important information (IP, gateways, etc.) but as soon as I connect and enter my password, it begins PPP. About 15 seconds later it just drops carrier. _ daredevl@america.com _-~-_-~ my home page - - Pagefault/DWA coder _-~-_-~ http://www.america.com/~daredevl/web/home.html - C / C++ / ASM _-~-_-~ without coders your hardware is useless. ~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-~-_-~--------------------------------------------_-~-_-~-_ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 07:20:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA13891 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:20:14 -0700 Received: from gateway.us.sidwell.edu (gateway.us.sidwell.edu [198.3.254.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA13885 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:20:10 -0700 Received: (from rwatson@localhost) by gateway.us.sidwell.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id KAA01508; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:19:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:19:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: rwatson@gateway.us.sidwell.edu To: PageFault cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation troubles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: The Sidwell Friends School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, PageFault wrote: > I am trying to do a PPP install of FreeBSD and I am having troubles. I > enter all the important information (IP, gateways, etc.) but as soon as I > connect and enter my password, it begins PPP. About 15 seconds later it > just drops carrier. I had to try a number of things to try and get my line stable enough to do a complete installation -- the terminal server I connect to tends to time me out, etc. My local modem also seemed to like disconnecting during the instllation, but works fine now for a ppp line post-installation. Using the ppp command.. Here are some things to try: Before you dial: AT&D0 Hopefuly this disables DTR checking on the modem for hanging up -- I think DTR may slip sometimes during isntallation, as this lengthened my possible connect time to 8 hours or something. Also in ppp, try.. set timeout 0 To disable a timeout on the line -- sometimes while decompressing, the isntallation program doesn't touch the line, so the ppp program apparently times out the connection. Both of these helped me, but my system may just be really odd. As it is, I lose a ppp connection after 6-8 hours of installation has passed anyway -- but at least it's not the 30 minutes it was before. Robert Watson rwatson@sidwell.edu http://www.sidwell.edu/~rwatson/ The goal of science is to build better mousetraps. The goal of nature is to build better mice. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 07:23:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA14190 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:23:22 -0700 Received: from ix2.ix.netcom.com (ix2.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA14180 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:23:20 -0700 Received: from by ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id HAA06208; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:21:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:21:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199506271421.HAA06208@ix2.ix.netcom.com> From: perilous@ix.netcom.com (William Harrison) Subject: TCP/IP To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I bought the FreeBSD cdrom. It installed smoothely. I have worked with TCP/IP on an IBM RS-6000 and set up various PC TCP/IP packages. I use my network connection to the internet every day via a pc. but I can't seem to get the FreeBSD TCP/IP network going. Ethernet card is ne2000. Message is network is unreachable. ifconfig says inteface does not exist. Is there a "recipe" anyplace for setting up TCP/IP network on FreeBSD? Bill Harrison perilous@ix.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 07:54:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA15695 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:54:11 -0700 Received: from relay.philips.nl (relay.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA15689 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:54:09 -0700 Received: from knox.pcec.philips.com ([130.140.74.243]) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) with SMTP id QAA07027; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:53:16 +0200 Received: from eis16.philips.com by knox.pcec.philips.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14918; Tue, 27 Jun 95 10:52:47 EDT Received: by eis16.philips.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13478; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:52:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:52:48 -0400 From: wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com (ED WOLPERT ) Message-Id: <9506271452.AA13478@eis16.philips.com> To: daredevl@america.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from PageFault on Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:38:45 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Installation troubles Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "daredevl" == PageFault writes: -daredevl> I am trying to do a PPP install of FreeBSD and I am having -daredevl> troubles. I enter all the important information (IP, -daredevl> gateways, etc.) but as soon as I connect and enter my -daredevl> password, it begins PPP. About 15 seconds later it just -daredevl> drops carrier. Try doing an at command before the dialing to lower the speed of the modem. I've got at 28,8kbaud sportster, but I have to type at&N12 to lower the speed to 24,0kbaud. -- Virtually, Edward Wolpert ------------------------------- "The best way out is always wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com | through." - Robert Frost wolpert@utk.edu | =============================== 'Give me a shell, and I'll Truth is what you believe. | give you the world.' (tm) ------------------------------- Fnord. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 08:07:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA16571 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:07:20 -0700 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (root@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA16564 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:07:15 -0700 Received: from scooter-ppp-eb.NeoSoft.com (scooter-ppp-b3.NeoSoft.com [198.65.165.168]) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA15979; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:07:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199506271507.KAA15979@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> X-Provider: NeoSoft, Inc.: Internet Service Provider (713) 968-5800 X-Sender: rberndt@popmail.neosoft.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:10:02 -0500 To: PageFault From: Randy Berndt Subject: Re: Installation troubles Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I am trying to do a PPP install of FreeBSD and I am having troubles. I >enter all the important information (IP, gateways, etc.) but as soon as I >connect and enter my password, it begins PPP. About 15 seconds later it >just drops carrier. > > Your mileage may vary, but: I was having similar problems (if you check the PPP on screen 3 and do a 'show log', does it give you a lot of magic number errors?). I used the commands 'disable lqr' and 'deny lqr' before doing 'term' and it started working. Worth a try. Also, do a 'show log' until the log show 'layerup'. This may take 30-60 seconds. THEN, go back and continue installation. Randy Berndt [Signature, like every damned freeway in Houston, is "under construction".] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 08:20:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA17640 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:20:45 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA17630 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:20:43 -0700 From: KarmaDave@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA131316411; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:20:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:20:11 -0400 Message-Id: <950627112009_79262646@aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4 BSD Lite and IDE CD-ROM Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I just bought FreeBSD 2.0 from Walnut Creek. The CD-ROM has a January, 1994 date, but the case is dated January, 1995. Release notes on the CD is ver 2.0 so I guess I have the latest version. Will this version work with a SonyCDU-55e drive? This is an IDE ATAPI CD-ROM that I have connected directly to one of the built-in IDE ports on my PC. If it will not, is there an alternative way that I can get the OS installed on my PC short of buying a supported SCSI CD-ROM and controller? My system is a DX/2-66, 700MB H/D, 16MB RAM, PCI bus, 3.5", 5.25", Colorado Tape, Sound Blaster Pro 16, 28.8 internal modem, Diamond PCI video. The H/D is connected to the primary IDE port and the CD-ROM is connected to the second port. Thanks for your help. Dave Davis From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 08:26:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA17998 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:26:24 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA17991 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:26:22 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA10743; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:21:14 -0500 Message-Id: <9506271521.AA10743@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:21:14 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: questions@freebsd.org, wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com Subject: Re: Installation troubles Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Try doing an at command before the dialing to lower the speed of the >modem. I've got at 28,8kbaud sportster, but I have to type > at&N12 >to lower the speed to 24,0kbaud. Did you know that early versions of the Sportsters have a bug in them? My Sportster V.34 was one of those, and I am receiving a free upgrade. Here is the posting that was sent to me (I don't know where it came from, but I did call USR and it's true): BUG: Early versions of US Robotics' Sprotster V.FC and V.34 modems drop connections unexpectely under certain line conditions. The company says uncompatibilities in the V.FC protocol's retraining sequences cause the problem, but the US Robotics modems aren't affected. To determine whether your Sportster is prone to the carrier-drop problem, call US Robotics' technical support department. Or start your communications application and issue the command ATI7 in the terminal window. Your modem will respond with several lines of information, including a 'Supervisor date'. Modems with the carrier-drop problem display Supervisor dates earlier than 11/30/94. FIX: US Robotics has released a revised FREE e-prom chip upgrade that corrects the problem. You can order it by contacting technical support. The company sends the chip, instructions for opening the case for external units, and a chip puller for removing the old e-prom (which you can discard or make into an earring). The company offers no other assistance for replacing the chip. Instead of making the e-prom fix, Sporster V.FC owners may opt to puchase a $29 e-prom upgrade and get the more complete V.34 28.8 kbps protocol. Contact tech support (708/982-5151) to order the upgrade. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 09:18:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA20055 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:18:58 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA20045 ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:18:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199506271618.JAA20045@freefall.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: perilous@ix.netcom.com (William Harrison) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCP/IP In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 95 07:21:51 PDT." <199506271421.HAA06208@ix2.ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:18:55 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I bought the FreeBSD cdrom. It installed smoothely. I have worked with >TCP/IP on an IBM RS-6000 and set up various PC TCP/IP packages. I use >my network connection to the internet every day via a pc. > >but I can't seem to get the FreeBSD TCP/IP network going. Ethernet card >is ne2000. > >Message is network is unreachable. > >ifconfig says inteface does not exist. > > >Is there a "recipe" anyplace for setting up TCP/IP network on FreeBSD? > >Bill Harrison >perilous@ix.netcom.com It sounds like you have the ne2000 configured at an IRQ or base address other than what is configured into the kernel. Find out what those settings should be, boot with the "-c" flag, and set the ed0 device accordingly. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 09:41:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA20896 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:41:37 -0700 Received: from relay.philips.nl (relay.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA20872 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:41:22 -0700 Received: from knox.pcec.philips.com ([130.140.74.243]) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) with SMTP id SAA12142 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 18:40:47 +0200 Received: from eis16.philips.com by knox.pcec.philips.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11692; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:40:19 EDT Received: by eis16.philips.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25813; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:40:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:40:20 -0400 From: wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com (ED WOLPERT ) Message-Id: <9506271640.AA25813@eis16.philips.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: The news packages Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Folks- I'm started up a news server on my Freebsd box (2.0.5) and rather than compile it myself, I added the packages from the 2.0.5 release. What I'm wondering is how should I start configuring it. In a sense, I'd almost be more comfortable with starting from scratch, since the install scripts take some (not all) of the headache away. Has anyone used the news packages? (Cnews, nntp and inn) If so, where did you begin in the configuration? (For the record, I configured bnews/nntp along time ago, for a different unix box.) -- Virtually, Edward Wolpert ------------------------------- "The best way out is always wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com | through." - Robert Frost wolpert@utk.edu | =============================== 'Give me a shell, and I'll Truth is what you believe. | give you the world.' (tm) ------------------------------- Fnord. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 09:57:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA21663 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:57:27 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA21653 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:57:17 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA03027; Tue, 27 Jun 95 10:49:04 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9506271649.AA03027@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Any way to get hard links to directories? To: wsantee@wsantee.oz.net (Wes Santee) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 10:49:03 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506270455.VAA05388@wsantee.oz.net> from "Wes Santee" at Jun 26, 95 09:55:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Okay, I know that you aren't supposed to be able to create a hard > link to a directory. In the ln(1) man page, however, it states that > "Hard links may not normally refer to directories and may not span > filesystems." > > Does that mean there is some way to create hard links to directories > in a 'non-normal' way? If so, are there consequences? Root is allowed to hard link directories. In general, this was the pre-"rename" mechanism for renaming directories: you had root do it. That's because pre-"rename", the way to rename things was to make a link to them and then unlink the original. In general, hard links on directories are strongly discouraged by everyone and spit upon by me. They are discouraged because they cause fits for fsck. If you in fact get a cyclical graph set up, you are pretty much screwed. This would be done by linking a directory into itself or to an inferior heirarchy. They are spit upon by me for several reasons. The first is that in a normal UNIX files system implementation, there is not a single parent inode. This plays hell with permissions mechanisms that depend on inheritances (Access Control Lists and NetWare Trustees are two). POSIX is also not very clear on implementation demands. In point of fact, it is perfectly legal to implement "." and ".." as manufactured name space intrusions that have no physical presence in the file system at all. In reality, there are several significant benefits to this approach (as NTFS can attest). The least of which is the ability to embed logical names and have multiple seperate root volumes, which can have significant impact on implementing nomadic computing, package location independence, ann server fail-over and less obvious software fault tolerance mechanisms. Suffice it to say, I would *strongly* urge you to reexamine why you want a hard linked directory and to choose another soloution to your problem. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 11:15:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA26637 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:15:25 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA26631 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:15:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id OAA23229 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:17:02 -0400 Received: from freefall.cdrom.com (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA22742 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 13:25:41 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA23500 ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:24:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:24:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199506271724.KAA23500@freefall.cdrom.com> Subject: Upgrade FreeBSD From: charles@omac.com (WWW Form) To: www@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The machine this came from was: (null) To whom it may concern, I'm an Internet Service Provider in Houston. I'm running a UNIX server at the moment, using version 2.0.0 There have been some problems regarding the server. For example, system hangs when backing up, can't connect sometimes, frequent error message about no DNS server found, etc. I heard there is a new version of FreeBSD (2.0.5). I would like to find out how I would be able to UPGRADE the operating system. Please reply soon, because my clients are not very happy. Thank you for your time. Checkout my home page "www.omac.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 12:02:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA28708 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:02:48 -0700 Received: from csc.com (explorer.csc.com [20.1.10.27]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA28699 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:02:33 -0700 Received: by csc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQftX-000iFwC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:01 EDT Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 15:01:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Vanrafelghem To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 486DX2 FreeBSD boot.flp problems (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Thanks Ted!!! I checked, and indeed the Future Domain controller does not have "Bus master" capability... I would rather not fork out another couple hundred dollars on a new controller... Can anyone tell me for sure if FreeBSD requires Bus master... or if there is some other work around/patch. Regards, Stefan J. Van Rafelghem svanrafe@csc.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 20:51:34 -0400 From: Edward F. Knight To: Stefan Vanrafelghem Subject: Re: 486DX2 FreeBSD boot.flp problems > >This is my second posting concerning this problem. Thanks to those of you >who responded to my first message, and got me a little farther along in >trouble-shooting this. > >Unfortunately, I still cannot get my PC to boot up from the boot.flp floppy. >I gave the floppy to a friend, to try on his PC, and it worked fine! >So I guess it's not the floppy. "WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY PC?!?!" > >I started taking the PC apart last night just to get more familiar with it, >so I thought I'd post some of the information about it here, in case anyone >sees any obvious problems. > >It's a 486DX2 with 16 meg of RAM > BIOS is AMI-BIOS (dated 6/6/92) > AMI=American Megatrends Inc. > >It has a Future Domain SCSI controller, which seems to be controlling: > > one floppy drive > two hard drives > (1 Conner 1.4G and 1 Maxtor 240Meg) > one double speed CD-ROM. > >It also has a "Stealth 32" video card. > >I don't know who manufactured the mother-board, but several of the chips >have "OPTi" labelled on them... (please excuse my ignorance.) > >If anyone knows of any problems with any of these devices please let me know. > > >Thanks, > >Stefan J. Van Rafelghem >svanrafe@csc.com > > >I think the problem is the future domain card. I don't know for sure. I believe I read somewhere that FreeBSD required a scsi card that had bus master capabilities and the future domain does not ( they did not in the past). Check this out. If you need to get another scsi card I recomend an Adaptec 1542CF. Ted Knight From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 12:12:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA29095 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:12:50 -0700 Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA29089 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:12:47 -0700 Received: from zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (zen.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.130]) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA07625; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:13:00 +0200 Received: (sven@localhost) by zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.10/8.6.4) id VAA13816; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:12:42 +0200 From: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl (Sven Berkvens) Message-Id: <199506271912.VAA13816@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: Re: how to turn local system into Xterminal To: Guido.vanRooij@nl.cis.philips.com Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:12:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Guido van Rooij" at Jun 27, 95 12:16:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1014 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I like to have the possibility to sometimes just act as an xterminal, > without having to boot again. Of course I should configure a remote > machines xdm so it is willing to serve me. But what should I do > locally? Just starting an xserver isn't enough of course..How do I tell > the remote machine it should open up the xdm logon window? It's nearly enough to start the X server locally: you do not need to configure anything if your X server works okay. If you'd like to access a remote machine using your local machine as the terminal, you'd type the following instead of typing 'startx': X -query some.remote.host Perhaps you'd like to add the -once option, which will shut down the X server once you've logged out from the session, ie. not return to login prompt. Or, if a remote machine offers you a so-called chooser (from which you can select yet another host to log in to): X -indirect some.remote.host That's all there's to it... > -Guido -Sven Berkvens (System Administrator for MCGV Stack) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 14:36:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA04235 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:36:56 -0700 Received: from hermes.cybernetics.net (hermes.cybernetics.net [198.80.51.103]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04229 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:36:50 -0700 Received: (from david@localhost) by hermes.cybernetics.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA05063; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 17:52:28 -0400 From: David Edwards Message-Id: <199506272152.RAA05063@hermes.cybernetics.net> Subject: FreeBSD 2.0 Help ??? (fwd) To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 17:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Cc: david@hermes.cybernetics.net (David Edwards) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1792 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Forwarded message: > > Is there a known problem with Installation of 2.0 FreeBSD? > > I am attempting an installation on a 486 SX- 25 with 8 Meg of memory. > Partioning works fine. Assigning and Disklabeling works fine. I am using an > external CDROM thru a 1542 Adaptec ISA SCSI controller. > > After Installing all distributions except secrdist, and XFree86-3.1 > I have used : > 10 Meg of 15 Meg for / > 148 Meg of 278 Meg for /usr > 65 bytes of 9 Meg for /var > > Installation of all software works fine except the XFree86-3.1 > distribution. The Progress box shows verifying checksums, and then Extracting > FreeBSD 3.1 distribution. Once this extraction starts, the machine quits writing to disk. The machine must be rebooted. How long should it take to install the > XFree86-3.1 distribution? > > Please Help... I Just wan't it to install and work correctly!!! > Thanks in advance. It would also be great to know of someone who > could answer FreeBSD type questions as they come up. > > > > > > I previously had FreeBSD 2.0950412-SNAP installed, and working on this machine. > Everything was working fine, except ELM, and the Network addressing to an > Internet Connection. I was unable to receive mail from my Internet Connection. > ELM could not perform a flock operation on the respective mail box. I decided > to try an installation from an actual FreeBSD RELEASE to see if I could get any > further. At my place of employment, we have a 486/66 running RELEASE 1.1.5.1 > of FreeBSD. This machine has a connection to the Internet, and all works fine > ELM, and receiving of mail. My snap installation was from this machine was has > RELEASE 1.1.5.1. on it. > > > Thanks in advance, > > David W. Edwards > > from david@hermes.cybernetics.net > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 16:14:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA08378 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:14:51 -0700 Received: from bach.iq.ufrj.br (bach.iq.ufrj.br [146.164.30.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA08360 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:14:40 -0700 Received: (jomal@localhost) by bach.iq.ufrj.br (8.6.12/8.3) id UAA13917; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:13:48 GMT Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:13:48 GMT From: "Joao Otavio M.A. Lins / DFQ-IQ-UFRJ" Message-Id: <199506272013.UAA13917@bach.iq.ufrj.br> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Checking RAM Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello ALL. Since I posted my article last week, I have noticed that I must have a SIMM or chipset problem. So, I am looking for a program to test the RAM and/or the chipset. Is there a program like CHECKIT to run with FreeBSD (2.0.5)? Please, send all replies to me (I'm not subscribed to this list) and I will summarize to the net. Thanks in advance, Joao O.M.A. Lins System Manager Quantum Chemistry Group ______________________________________________________________________ Instituto de Quimica da U.F.R.J. email: jomal@dfq.ufrj.br Centro de Tecnologia, bloco A, sala 412 voice: +55-21-590-9890 Cidade Universitaria fax : +55-21-290-4746 21949-900 - Rio de Janeiro - RJ BRAZIL ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 19:48:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA15149 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 19:48:02 -0700 Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (root@vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA15143 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 19:47:59 -0700 Received: from [204.177.193.231] (n4hhe.iquest.com [204.177.193.231]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA27197; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:48:14 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:48:17 -0600 To: Wes Santee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) Subject: Re: Any way to get hard links to directories? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 21:55 6/26/95, Wes Santee wrote: >Okay, I know that you aren't supposed to be able to create a hard >link to a directory. In the ln(1) man page, however, it states that >"Hard links may not normally refer to directories and may not span >filesystems." > >Does that mean there is some way to create hard links to directories >in a 'non-normal' way? If so, are there consequences? Dot and dot-dot are hard links to directories. Each subdirectory has a hard link to its parent (dot-dot) in addition to a hard link to itself (dot). You can see the hard link count in an "ls -l" listing and get a good idea how many subdirectories are under a directory (2 less than the link count). I think this is what was meant by, "Hard links may not normally refer to directories..." as the writer was being exactly precise and accounting for the dot and dot-dot links. You should not make hard directory links but is OK for mkdir and fsck. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 19:50:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA15310 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 19:50:02 -0700 Received: from gem.kern.com (gem.kern.com [204.212.36.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA15298 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 19:49:58 -0700 Received: from 199.120.150.44 (annex034.ridgecrest.ca.us [199.120.150.44]) by gem.kern.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA04377 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:08:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:08:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199506280308.UAA04377@gem.kern.com> From: cwmarket@kern.com Subject: FreeBSD configuration help To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have recently completed installing FreeBSD. I need some assistance in completing the configuration to use either SLIP or PPP. I have not been able to gain access to the referenced newsgroups, my local provider does not include them ... so I am looking for a contact to correspond with via Email. Thank You Kris Chopper cwmarket@gem.kern.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 20:09:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA16176 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:09:37 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA16168 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:09:34 -0700 Received: from wsantee.oz.net by emerald.oz.net via ESMTP (8.6.12/930416.SGI) for id DAA15407; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 03:07:10 GMT Received: (from wsantee@localhost) by wsantee.oz.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA03277 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:04:10 -0700 From: Wes Santee Message-Id: <199506280304.UAA03277@wsantee.oz.net> Subject: Re: Any way to get hard links to directories? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:04:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9506271649.AA03027@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Jun 27, 95 10:49:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1734 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert sez: > Suffice it to say, I would *strongly* urge you to reexamine why you > want a hard linked directory and to choose another soloution to > your problem. Just an update for the curious as to why I'd ever want to hard link a directory. My provider is trying to setup ftp access so users can't even see other users directories, let alone the system directories. One idea that came up was to chroot to the users home directory on ftp login, thereby locking out access to places they didn't need to go. Only problem is gaining access to /bin/ls, and other files needed by the ftp daemon. Since symlinks under a chroot'ed directory don't work, the idea of hard links came up and I said I would investigate the possibility. Needless to say, hard links will not be the solution. Before you cock your head and ask why my ISP would want to take this course of action, shell accounts on the server are *not* permitted, so there is no reason anybody would need access to other directories on the system. They are a SLIP/PPP provider only. Server security is of utmost importance to these people. Still, they need to give ftp access to users home directories so they can dump required files for web pages, etc. That said, anybody have any ideas on how to have the ftp daemon allow users who are logged in to see only their home (and below) directories without the ftp daemon losing access to the files it needs to operate? Cheers, -- ( -Wes Santee | You're never dead 'til you're ) ( wsantee@wsantee.oz.net | out of quarters. --InSoc ) ( http://www.oz.net/~wsantee \------------------------------ ) ( O S / 2 W A R P F r e e B S D ) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 20:39:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA17752 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:39:03 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA17743 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:38:56 -0700 Received: from asylum.asylum.org by relay1.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQywag19604; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:38:41 -0400 Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id WAA02876; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:32:16 -0400 From: dlr Message-Id: <199506280232.WAA02876@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: Drive 2 ques. To: maloneyb@cybercity.com Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9506261512.D9979Zd@cybercity.com> from "maloneyb@cybercity.com" at Jun 26, 95 03:12:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 662 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk | |As you can see, I've tried to stick to the sugguestions, to try to get |it to work. | |Now, to the actual problem..... When it is finished with the initial |installation, it reboots, I select the partition to boot from, it asks |for the kernel, and I typy hd(1,a)/kernel, like I'm supposed to. Ok, |all this runs fine and dandy until almost the end, where it hits a |system panic and I have to reboot because it can't mount the root. Any |ideas? Use wd(1,a)/kernel or wd(0,a)/kernel instead of hd. I spent the better part of a weekend figuring that one out. Hopefully documentation will be a little clearer as this question comes up frequently. dave From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 20:55:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA18539 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:55:03 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA18530 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:54:59 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA19513; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:24:58 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506280354.NAA19513@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: The news packages To: wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com (ED WOLPERT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:24:58 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9506271640.AA25813@eis16.philips.com> from "ED WOLPERT" at Jun 27, 95 12:40:20 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1621 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ED WOLPERT stands accused of saying: > I'm started up a news server on my Freebsd box (2.0.5) and > rather than compile it myself, I added the packages from the 2.0.5 > release. What I'm wondering is how should I start configuring it. In > a sense, I'd almost be more comfortable with starting from scratch, > since the install scripts take some (not all) of the headache > away. Has anyone used the news packages? (Cnews, nntp and inn) If so, > where did you begin in the configuration? Firstly, remove Cnews and NNTP. INN does everything you want. INN is usually easier to install when you've compiled it yourself, but regardless, find where it's installed its config files, and read the manual pages for each file. There's also a _very_ helpful Install.1 file that comes with the INN distribution; I hope that it gets installed somewhere in /usr/share, but can't check at the moment. Failing this, grab an INN source distribution and extract it from there. Basically, you'll have to obtain an active file, write your newsfeeds file (that's the hardest part), and frob a couple of other files to suit your preferences. The Install file discusses which fall into which categories. > Edward Wolpert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 21:00:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA18823 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:00:42 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA18812 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:00:37 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA19540; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:31:25 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506280401.NAA19540@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 486DX2 FreeBSD boot.flp problems (fwd) To: svanrafe@explorer.csc.com (Stefan Vanrafelghem) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:31:24 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Vanrafelghem" at Jun 27, 95 03:01:59 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1301 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Stefan Vanrafelghem stands accused of saying: > I checked, and indeed the Future Domain controller does not have "Bus master" > capability... > > I would rather not fork out another couple hundred dollars on > a new controller... Can anyone tell me for sure if FreeBSD requires > Bus master... or if there is some other work around/patch. FreeBSD does not _require_ a busmastering SCSI controller, however the alternative (PIO controllers) perform extremely badly in multiprocessing environments. The FD controller _may_ be supported by the sea0 driver; others have reported success with some combinations. Given that you have all of your disk on the SCSI bus, a decent SCSI controller will pay for itself in no time flat. If you have VLB, the Adaptec 2842 is probably the best price/performance point, if you only have ISA, the Adaptec 1542CF will fit your bill, as Ted pointed out. > Stefan J. Van Rafelghem -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 21:05:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA19102 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:05:56 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA19096 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:05:54 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA19552; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:35:52 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506280405.NAA19552@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 Help ??? (fwd) To: david@hermes.cybernetics.net (David Edwards) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:35:52 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, david@hermes.cybernetics.net In-Reply-To: <199506272152.RAA05063@hermes.cybernetics.net> from "David Edwards" at Jun 27, 95 05:52:28 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2680 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk David Edwards stands accused of saying: > > Is there a known problem with Installation of 2.0 FreeBSD? Several 8) > > I am attempting an installation on a 486 SX- 25 with 8 Meg of memory. > > Partioning works fine. Assigning and Disklabeling works fine. I am using an > > external CDROM thru a 1542 Adaptec ISA SCSI controller. > > > > After Installing all distributions except secrdist, and XFree86-3.1 > > I have used : > > 10 Meg of 15 Meg for / > > 148 Meg of 278 Meg for /usr > > 65 bytes of 9 Meg for /var That's a really awful partitioning scheme... > > Installation of all software works fine except the XFree86-3.1 > > distribution. The Progress box shows verifying checksums, and then Extracting > > FreeBSD 3.1 distribution. Once this extraction starts, the machine > > quits writing to disk. The machine must be rebooted. How long should > > it take to install the XFree86-3.1 distribution? It only takes a couple of minutes. WHat you haven't noticed is that the XFree install program is running on the second console. Hit Alt-F2 to switch there and continue with the install. > > Please Help... I Just wan't it to install and work correctly!!! > > Thanks in advance. It would also be great to know of someone who > > could answer FreeBSD type questions as they come up. Send mail to majordomo@freebsd.org containing 'help', and subscribe to the freebsd-questions mailing list. > > I previously had FreeBSD 2.0950412-SNAP installed, and working on this machine. > > Everything was working fine, except ELM, and the Network addressing to an > > Internet Connection. I was unable to receive mail from my Internet Connection. > > ELM could not perform a flock operation on the respective mail box. I decided > > to try an installation from an actual FreeBSD RELEASE to see if I could get any > > further. At my place of employment, we have a 486/66 running RELEASE 1.1.5.1 > > of FreeBSD. This machine has a connection to the Internet, and all works fine > > ELM, and receiving of mail. My snap installation was from this machine was has > > RELEASE 1.1.5.1. on it. Installing 2.0R is actually a _major_ downgrade from the 950412-SNAP. If you bought your CDROM from Walnut Creek, return it and ask for a 2.0.5R set. They're due shortly. > > David W. Edwards -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 21:15:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA19440 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:15:30 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA19434 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:15:28 -0700 Received: from asylum.asylum.org by relay3.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQywaj03229; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 00:15:11 -0400 Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id XAA02977; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:08:56 -0400 From: dlr Message-Id: <199506280308.XAA02977@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: extracting src from .aa .ab. files? To: datura@kudonet.com (Justin Cooper) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9506262345.AA00468@kudonet.com> from "Justin Cooper" at Jun 26, 95 04:45:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 658 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk | |Hi, | I installed FreeBSD 2.0.5 this way: copied the bindist, info, and man files |to a dos partition, booted from the floppies, and ran the install. | |Now, I'm trying to rebuild the kernel and noticed I have nothing in my /src |directory. I heard there is a script that will extract the source from all |my .aa, .ab, .ac etc files that I still have on my dos partition...does anyone |know of this? If not, what is the best way to get the source files (no I do |not have a CD-ROM drive ;) | For version 2.0 there is an extract.sh script in the srcdist dir and also in the kerndist dir. I don't see a similar script in the srcdist files for 2.0.5. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 22:00:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA21026 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:00:03 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA21014 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:59:59 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA19705; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:29:54 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506280459.OAA19705@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: extracting src from .aa .ab. files? To: dlr@asylum.org (dlr) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:29:53 +0930 (CST) Cc: datura@kudonet.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506280308.XAA02977@asylum.asylum.org> from "dlr" at Jun 27, 95 11:08:55 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1032 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk dlr stands accused of saying: > |Now, I'm trying to rebuild the kernel and noticed I have nothing in my /src > |directory. I heard there is a script that will extract the source from all > |my .aa, .ab, .ac etc files that I still have on my dos partition...does anyone > |know of this? If not, what is the best way to get the source files (no I do > |not have a CD-ROM drive ;) > For version 2.0 there is an extract.sh script in the srcdist dir and also > in the kerndist dir. I don't see a similar script in the srcdist files for > 2.0.5. cat |tar xvzf - Check the base paths (tar tvzf -) first to make sure you're in the right place. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 22:43:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA22054 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:43:25 -0700 Received: from efn.efn.org (root@efn.org [198.68.17.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA22048 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:43:23 -0700 Received: from unix.nike.efn.org (efn.org) by efn.efn.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA23483; Tue, 27 Jun 95 22:41:09 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:49:16 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: gurney_j@unix.nike.efn.org To: Wes Santee Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Any way to get hard links to directories? In-Reply-To: <199506280304.UAA03277@wsantee.oz.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, Wes Santee wrote: > That said, anybody have any ideas on how to have the ftp daemon allow > users who are logged in to see only their home (and below) directories > without the ftp daemon losing access to the files it needs to operate? why don't you make a bin dir for every one... put hard links of ls... and then if I remeber right... you can have wuftpd chroot to the users home dir... just a though... TTYL... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 23:21:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA23488 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:21:07 -0700 Received: from pita.cns.ucla.edu (pita.cns.ucla.edu [128.97.62.77]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA23480 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:21:06 -0700 Received: by pita.cns.ucla.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24039; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:21:04 -0700 From: scott@pita.cns.ucla.edu (Scott Burris) Message-Id: <9506280621.AA24039@pita.cns.ucla.edu> Subject: Re: rsh and connection refused To: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Litzinger" at Jun 26, 95 05:43:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 530 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I have two machine hooked up via a T1. After issuing the command: > > rsh 10.0.0.2 cat testfile | cat >/dev/null > > I can't issue any additional rsh's for 20 to 30 seconds. I've seen this too. I have a dump script which rsh'es around to several machines doing a dump to a network tape drive. This used to work just fine under 2.0 but I get connection refused on the second attempt to rsh to a particular machine under 2.0.5. ---------- Scott Burris UCLA Campus Network Services (310) 206-4860 scott@cns.ucla.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 23:53:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA25045 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:53:22 -0700 Received: from legend (legend.txdirect.net [204.57.120.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA25039 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:53:19 -0700 Received: from oasis (link060) by legend (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11072; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 01:49:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:50:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@oasis To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Swapinfo again (never decreases) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This post is in reply to (More info needed) on my previous post about swapinfo showing that swapspace doesn't decrease. Following shows me logging in and then starting X then running Netscape and closing it the normal way -, then back out and getting ready to logout. The double row of stars indicate a new run of ps/swapinfo ******** ******** Just logged in and havent even run startx. forgot to run ps: it is ps & tcsh Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/wd0s3b 48384 0 48256 0% Interleaved ******** ******** Just started X and just have my default setup running. PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 170 p0 Ss+ 0:00.32 -usr/local/bin/tcsh 172 p1 Ss+ 0:00.32 -usr/local/bin/tcsh 171 p2 Ss 0:00.35 -usr/local/bin/tcsh 184 p2 R+ 0:00.05 ps 149 v0 IWs 0:00.54 -tcsh (tcsh) 156 v0 IW+ 0:00.07 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx 161 v0 SW+ 0:00.15 xinit /home/rsnow/.xinitrc -- 163 v0 SW 0:00.05 sh /home/rsnow/.xinitrc 167 v0 S 0:00.54 fvwm 178 v0 S 0:00.34 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm/GoodStuff 8 4 /tmp/fvwmrc00167 179 v0 S 0:00.03 /bin/sh -c xclock -bg gray45 -geometry -1500-1500 -pad 180 v0 S 0:00.03 /bin/sh -c xload -bg gray45 -geometry -1500-1500 181 v0 S 0:00.23 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm/FvwmPager 10 4 /tmp/fvwmrc0016 182 v0 S 0:00.33 xclock -bg gray45 -geometry -1500-1500 -padding 0 183 v0 S 0:00.32 xload -bg gray45 -geometry -1500-1500 Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/wd0s3b 48384 10400 37856 22% Interleaved ******** ******** Back to my login shell and LOOK 19% of swapspace is used... PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 149 v0 Ss 0:00.60 -tcsh (tcsh) 248 v0 R+ 0:00.04 ps Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/wd0s3b 48384 9016 39240 19% Interleaved Why is 19% still used? --- Rob Snow rsnow@txdirect.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 27 23:55:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA25227 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:55:49 -0700 Received: from legend (legend.txdirect.net [204.57.120.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA25221 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:55:47 -0700 Received: from oasis (link060) by legend (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11118; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 01:52:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:53:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@oasis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Swapinfo again (never decreases) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This post is in reply to (More info needed) on my previous post about swapinfo showing that swapspace doesn't decrease. Following shows me logging in and then starting X then running Netscape and closing it the normal way -, then back out and getting ready to logout. The double row of stars indicate a new run of ps/swapinfo ******** ******** Just logged in and havent even run startx. forgot to run ps: it is ps & tcsh Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/wd0s3b 48384 0 48256 0% Interleaved ******** ******** Just started X and just have my default setup running. PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 170 p0 Ss+ 0:00.32 -usr/local/bin/tcsh 172 p1 Ss+ 0:00.32 -usr/local/bin/tcsh 171 p2 Ss 0:00.35 -usr/local/bin/tcsh 184 p2 R+ 0:00.05 ps 149 v0 IWs 0:00.54 -tcsh (tcsh) 156 v0 IW+ 0:00.07 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx 161 v0 SW+ 0:00.15 xinit /home/rsnow/.xinitrc -- 163 v0 SW 0:00.05 sh /home/rsnow/.xinitrc 167 v0 S 0:00.54 fvwm 178 v0 S 0:00.34 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm/GoodStuff 8 4 /tmp/fvwmrc00167 179 v0 S 0:00.03 /bin/sh -c xclock -bg gray45 -geometry -1500-1500 -pad 180 v0 S 0:00.03 /bin/sh -c xload -bg gray45 -geometry -1500-1500 181 v0 S 0:00.23 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm/FvwmPager 10 4 /tmp/fvwmrc0016 182 v0 S 0:00.33 xclock -bg gray45 -geometry -1500-1500 -padding 0 183 v0 S 0:00.32 xload -bg gray45 -geometry -1500-1500 Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/wd0s3b 48384 10400 37856 22% Interleaved ******** ******** Back to my login shell and LOOK 19% of swapspace is used... PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 149 v0 Ss 0:00.60 -tcsh (tcsh) 248 v0 R+ 0:00.04 ps Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/wd0s3b 48384 9016 39240 19% Interleaved Why is 19% still used? --- Rob Snow rsnow@txdirect.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 00:01:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA25579 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 00:01:10 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA25573 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 00:01:07 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA08130; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 00:00:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA00645; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 00:01:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199506280701.AAA00645@corbin.Root.COM> To: Rob Snow cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swapinfo again (never decreases) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 95 01:50:37 CDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 00:01:31 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type >/dev/wd0s3b 48384 10400 37856 22% Interleaved > > >******** >******** >Back to my login shell and LOOK 19% of swapspace is used... > > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > 149 v0 Ss 0:00.60 -tcsh (tcsh) > 248 v0 R+ 0:00.04 ps > >Device 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type >/dev/wd0s3b 48384 9016 39240 19% Interleaved > > > >Why is 19% still used? 4.5MB of swap space in-use is not a significant amount. The system daemons as well as a few user processes have been paged out. That's all; it's quite normal and expected. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 01:35:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA28181 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 01:35:16 -0700 Received: from mail.telstra.com.au (mail.telstra.com.au [192.148.160.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA28175 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 01:35:13 -0700 Received: from mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au(192.148.147.10) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma022283; Wed Jun 28 17:39:29 1995 Received: from cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134) by mail_gw.telecom.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma005820; Wed Jun 28 18:33:32 1995 Received: from amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (amalfi.trl.OZ.AU [137.147.99.99]) by cdn_mail.telecom.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA19061 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:33:32 +1000 Received: from orca1.vic.design.telecom.com.au ([145.136.55.131]) by amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA04484 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:33:28 +1000 Received: from netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au by orca1.vic.design.telecom.com.au with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20140; Wed, 28 Jun 95 18:33:24 +1000 Received: from netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au [144.139.63.32]) by netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA09449 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:35:31 +0800 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:35:29 +0800 (WST) From: Terry Dwyer To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: PCI SCSI controller - which one should I buy? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm about to upgrade to a DX4 PCI motherboard and I wondered if anyone has any preference for one of the following controllers: PCI Fast SCSI PCI fast wide SCSI BT946C VS AHA-2940 BT956C VS AHA-2940W I have to choose one of these controllers for my FreeBSD box and I would really like to know if any of them is _not_ supported by or has problems with 2.0.5R The hardware section of the FAQ web page does not mention the BT956C. Has this changed recently? It also qualifies the AHA294X as only being supported by "2.X-current only". Does this mean the wide version is supported by 2.0.5R? If all of them are supported, I would have a preference for the BusLogic card on principle, (better support for free OSes), and from experience. I have a BT445S in my VLB motherboard at the moment and I have been very pleased with it's reliability and performance. Further, my preference is for the fast wide Buslogic controller; I'd like to futureproof my hardware. I am getting a Seagate Barracuda to hang off the controller as well, should this be a problem? If anyone can help in pointing out problems, bad BIOS revisions etc I should be aware of, I would be most appreciative. Thanks for taking the time to read this. _-_|\ Terry Dwyer E-Mail: tdwyer@netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au / \ System Administrator Phone: +61 9 491 5161 Fax: +61 9 221 2631 *_.^\_/ Telecom Australia Telstra Corporation MIME capable mailer v Perth WA ( I do not speak for Telstra or Telecom ) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 04:45:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA03343 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 04:45:50 -0700 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA03337 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 04:45:47 -0700 Received: from engmail.eng.ox.ac.uk by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <19713-0@oxmail.ox.ac.uk>; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:45:52 +0100 Received: from fasolt.eng by eng.ox.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:45:25 BST Received: from sun1.eng by fasolt.eng (4.1/OUEL-2.1.m) id AA11960; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:45:25 BST Received: by sun1.eng (4.1/OUEL-2.0.c) id AA00713; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:43:39 BST Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:43:39 BST From: oedajk <@eng.ox.ac.uk:oedajk@fasolt (Andy Keane)> Message-Id: <9506281143.AA00713@sun1.eng> Apparently-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to get your ppp up and running on a machine running SunOS 4.13U1 . I copied various ppp files but seem to be missing a number of .h's and also a Makefile include. Is it OK to be trying to do this - I have a modem etc and use it for kermit at the moment but want ppp as well. Any thoughts gratefully received. Andy Keane From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 05:37:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA04789 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 05:37:57 -0700 Received: from prades.cesca.es (prades.cesca.es [192.94.163.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA04783 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 05:37:54 -0700 Received: by prades.cesca.es (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA25738; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:34:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:24:31 +0200 (METDST) From: Carles Amengual Subject: Re: TCP/IP To: William Harrison Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506271421.HAA06208@ix2.ix.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, William Harrison wrote: > but I can't seem to get the FreeBSD TCP/IP network going. Ethernet card > is ne2000. > > Message is network is unreachable. > Did you check boot info ? If not, you can use dmesg to see it, and look for references to ed0. Maybe there is a hardware conflict. Networking setup for FreeBSD is similar to SunOS and others. For your case, create a /etc/hostname.ed0 containing your IP address. Look at the netstart script to see how is it used, in case you haven't. I hope this will help you. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 05:52:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA05179 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 05:52:15 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA05173 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 05:52:12 -0700 Received: from orion.stars.sed.monmouth.army.mil ([158.9.11.65]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id FAA05533 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 05:52:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199506281252.FAA05533@mail.barrnet.net> Received: by orion.stars.sed.monmouth.army.mil (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA255153849; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:50:49 -0400 From: william pechter ILEX Subject: Mail with PPP and non-fixed ip addresses. To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:50:49 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: pechter@sesd.ilex.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1021 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just got my ppp connection and my provider's looking for a way to route mail to lakewood.com to my machine for distribution. I've got a class C license for my local net at home. I'm getting assigned an address for the PPP connection by his machine (BSDI v2.0). He's unsure of the way to do it and is considering holding my MX and using uucp to forward it over the ppp connection (since my ip varies with each ppp connection). Is there a better way to do it using sendmail (either Sendmail v8 or IDA) and smtp directly. His other alternative is dropping all the mail to my domain into my shell account on his machine and having me ftp it and deal with dispersal locally. I know someone here's going to have a better way to do it. Bill ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Pechter |Systems Administrator | N2RDI Ilex Systems |170 Patterson Ave | Shrewsbury, New Jersey 07702 908-532-2369 |pechter@sesd.ilex.com | pechter@stars.sed.monmouth.army.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 07:44:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA07900 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 07:44:11 -0700 Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA07894 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 07:44:09 -0700 Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.6.11/8.6.10) id JAA00651; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:43:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:43:58 -0500 From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199506281443.JAA00651@plains.nodak.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rsnow@legend.txdirect.net Subject: Re: Swapinfo again (never decreases) Content-Length: 1172 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk you say : Step1: swapinfo says 0% used Step2: start X (or any big program) Step3: exit X (or the above mentioned large progra) Step4: swapinfo says 19% used at step2, your RAM is all being used, so some pages are forced to backstore. these pages will stay on backstore until the application for these pages is terminated. A while back I proposed and implemented removing the backstore pages when they were paged back back into RAM. those were the days when *BSD was hanging all the time due to swap depletion. I figure (still do) that things that were paged to backstore may not be the same pages forced back when RAM is depleted again, and we would be prematurely filling the swap and back then my counters determined that it was very seldon occurance that a read backstored page was ever put back into backstore without modifying the page. This idea of removing the backstore page when read from swap never sailed with the VM crew, especially when the VM storing and fetching was improved for FreeBSD. They wanted to keep these pages in swap as a cache. I guess I never fully understood that (not to say they are wrong, I just never heard the reasoning). --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 08:24:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA09474 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:24:53 -0700 Received: from ix3.ix.netcom.com (ix3.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09467 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:24:51 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME by ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id IAA08271; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:23:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:23:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199506281523.IAA08271@ix3.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ronf1@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: ronf1@ix.netcom.com (Ron Feigen) Subject: /usr/include/sys ???? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi , 1st I want to sat thanks for you guys doing this (FreeBSD, support, ....). Anyway I got the BSDDisc from InfoMagic and got kerndist from FreeBSD.cdrom.com. I used the standard install to install bindist, mandist, srcdist and I had to install kerndist by hand. I just when into the kerndist directory and ran extract.sh (I hope that was coorect). Anyway I am trying to make gawk and have path problems. The is no use/include/sys! there is a link to /sys/sys (or something) but there is no /sys Clues? Thanks in advance Ron From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 08:49:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA10654 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:49:37 -0700 Received: from ns.dknet.dk (uucp@ns.dknet.dk [193.88.44.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA10647 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:49:27 -0700 Received: from pingnet by ns.dknet.dk with UUCP id AA17315 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com); Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:49:14 +0200 Received: from terry by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA25750 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com); Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:39:52 +0200 Received: (from hvd@localhost) by terry.ping.dk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA08934 for freebsd-questions; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:28:32 +0200 From: Henrik Vestergaard Draboel Message-Id: <199506281528.RAA08934@terry.ping.dk> Subject: SUID shell scripts? To: freebsd-questions@terry.ping.dk Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:28:32 +0000 (WET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 315 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, [I really don''t want to start a security discussion with this question!] Is there a "safe" way to make a shell-script suid under FreeBSD. I use a package called "super" by Will Deich (will@astro.caltech.edu) which works ok. If there is no other way, may I should make this into a package? Regards Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 08:58:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA11040 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:58:02 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA11032 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:57:52 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA21951; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 11:51:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 11:51:03 -0400 (EDT) From: FreeBSD Mailing List drop To: questions Subject: Taylor UUCP configuration Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I could use a little assistance getting UUCP to work. I'm about to do my install of Uniboard and it requires a functional UUCP to handle the user mail. I don't need any modem or direct connection systems, just TCP. Can anyone point me at a basic configuration how-to for the Taylor UUCP in FreeBSD 2.0.5? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 10:38:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA14728 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:38:51 -0700 Received: from wavefront.wti.com (WAVEFRONT.WTI.COM [144.253.1.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA14722 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:38:49 -0700 Received: from walrus.wti.com by wavefront.wti.com (4.1/SMI-1.0-WTI Special) id AA09090; Wed, 28 Jun 95 10:38:40 PDT Received: by walrus.wti.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/Wavefront-Client-2.0) id KAA27990; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:38:25 -0700 From: "Steve Galle" Message-Id: <9506281038.ZM27988@walrus.wti.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:38:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ARGH! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Once again, I CANNOT GET OFF THE LIST. I have tried sending mail to the correct address since my last request, (AGAIN...), but have yet to be removed from the list. It is quickly turning from a nuisance to a real annoyance, and my patience is wearing thin. I do not have the time to sift through a million messages all of which are irrelevant to me. GET ME OFF OF HERE. -Steve Galle Wavefront/Alias steveg@wti.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 10:44:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA15111 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:44:55 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA15103 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:44:52 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA16086; Wed, 28 Jun 95 11:37:37 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9506281737.AA16086@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Any way to get hard links to directories? To: gurney_j@efn.org (John-Mark Gurney) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 11:37:36 MDT Cc: wsantee@wsantee.oz.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "John-Mark Gurney" at Jun 27, 95 10:49:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, Wes Santee wrote: > > > That said, anybody have any ideas on how to have the ftp daemon allow > > users who are logged in to see only their home (and below) directories > > without the ftp daemon losing access to the files it needs to operate? > > why don't you make a bin dir for every one... put hard links of ls... and > then if I remeber right... you can have wuftpd chroot to the users home > dir... just a though... TTYL... Make sure the things aren't linked shared, or they won't run. After that, modify the ftpd to open the directory containing the binaries you want them to be able to run (ls, etc.). Then chroot. When you want to run a binary, you: 1) open the current directory 2) fchdir to the binary directory 3) run the binary (ls/tar/etc) with explicit paths as arguments 4) fchdir back to the current directory 5) close the current directory Does the BSD fchdir operate like it's supposed to in this regard? I don't know. An alternative that wouldn't have the same side-effect of embedding full paths would be: 1) open / 2) then chroot ... 3) open the current directory 4) fchdir to / 5) use POSIX saved id's to become root again 6) chroot . (is fchroot supported? Don't know...) 7) go back to being the user 8) fchdir back to current current 9) run the binary 10) use POSIX saved id's to become root again 11) chroot back to the user's home 12) go back to being the user This has the (potential) disadvantage of following symlinks that the user has set up in advance out of their own area. On the other hand, why do all this? The user can still telnet in and cp the data into his area, then ftp it. Or ftp from the machine out (access limited by ftp -- normal programmatic access -- rather than by ftpd chroot restrictions. A better mechanism would be one group per user, with the user allowed to add/subtract people from his group. An alternative to this would be locking down users home directories. When they log in as themselves, they have access to their own stuff bit not to others (same for standard telnet into a shell: no access except to world readable/executable directories (with the possibility of using exclusion groups) and/or groups to which the user is a member, also with readable/executable restrictions. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 11:29:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA16969 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 11:29:58 -0700 Received: from ns.dknet.dk (uucp@ns.dknet.dk [193.88.44.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA16925 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 11:29:39 -0700 Received: from pingnet by ns.dknet.dk with UUCP id AA06052 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com); Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:28:42 +0200 Received: from terry by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA04816 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com); Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:13:26 +0200 Received: from CPVA.SAIC.COM (uucp@localhost) by terry.ping.dk (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id TAA12026 for FREEBSD-QUESTIONS@TERRY.PING.DK; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 19:46:13 +0201 Received: from dkuug by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA27671 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for FREEBSD-QUESTIONS@TERRY.PING.DK); Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:18:05 +0200 Received: from cpva.SAIC.COM by ns.dknet.dk with SMTP id AA18874 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:01:27 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 9:02:02 -0700 (PDT) From: John Mulhollen To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS@terry.ping.dk Cc: MULHOLLENJ@CPVA.SAIC.COM Message-Id: <950628090202.27a0f138@CPVA.SAIC.COM> Subject: SIGNOFF X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk SIGNOFF 'p2' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 11:31:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA17100 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 11:31:45 -0700 Received: from virginia.edu (uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA17094 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 11:31:39 -0700 Received: from server.cs.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa05700; 28 Jun 95 14:31 EDT Received: from stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (stretch-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU) by uvacs.cs.virginia.edu (4.1/5.1.UVA) id AA20724; Wed, 28 Jun 95 14:31:35 EDT Posted-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (4.1/SMI-2.0) id AA11469; Wed, 28 Jun 95 14:31:34 EDT Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:31:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: CVS info? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, Is there any supplementary info available for CVS? I have the paper from the distribution and the man pages, but want something with examples and such. thanks, Adrian adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| Support your local programmer, http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~atf3r/ --->>>| STOP Software Patent Abuses NOW! Member: The League for -->>| info at ftp.uu.net:/doc/lpf, print Programming Freedom ->| "join.ps.Z" for an application From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 12:03:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA18080 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:03:38 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA18074 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:03:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id PAA03204 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:05:14 -0400 Received: from vallona.csccs.com.au (acs.gw.au [139.130.25.2]) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA27534 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:09:28 -0400 Received: from chiron.ringworld.com.au (chiron-gw.ringworld.com.au [202.0.102.1]) by vallona.csccs.com.au (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA01965 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 22:07:17 +1000 Message-Id: <199506281207.WAA01965@vallona.csccs.com.au> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:08:59 1100 From: Lee Stirzaker Organization: L & D System Consulting Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2b1 (Windows; I; 32bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jfieber@cs.smith.edu Subject: FreeBSD on laptops/portables Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to get FreeBSD up and running on a laptop/portable and not having much success. Can you point me to some manufacturers/models that are known to work. I have tried a Compaq portable (not sure what brand) with no luck. Regards, Lee. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 12:35:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA19326 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:35:22 -0700 Received: from leibniz.math.psu.edu (root@leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA19317 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:35:20 -0700 Received: from napier.math.psu.edu (wilcox@napier.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.4]) by leibniz.math.psu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA05452 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:34:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (wilcox@localhost) by napier.math.psu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA11903 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:34:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199506281934.PAA11903@napier.math.psu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: XF86 and keysyms Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:34:42 -0400 From: Ken Wilcox Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I installed 2.0.5R a couple weeks ago and was busy setting it up so that everything internally was cruisin' and that was a great success. Now, I have this problem with X that is blowing my mind. I run ctwm 3.3 as my window manager. In which I have things like Shift+Button3 in a window is f.move and F1 is f.raiselower etc,etc. None of these are working. I thought for a minute that it just was not getting the keysyms like everyone else but using xev it does say that it is getting the correct ones... Anyone have a clue? -Ken Wilcox From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 12:37:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA19430 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:37:47 -0700 Received: from ix3.ix.netcom.com (ix3.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA19424 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:37:46 -0700 Received: from by ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA17078; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:36:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 12:36:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199506281936.MAA17078@ix3.ix.netcom.com> From: perilous@ix.netcom.com (William Harrison) Subject: TCP/IP Again To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk With your help I quickly found the IRQ problmem and TCP/IP is working in that I can telnet in or out etc. I am not sure what is acceptable in the netstart parameters. ie whether it is looking for YES or "YES" or a dotted decimal address. I have several UNIX books but none give details on netstart. If someone could point me to a site that has a netstart in /pub that I could look at it would be very helpfull Bill Harrison From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 13:08:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA20420 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:08:03 -0700 Received: from legend (legend.txdirect.net [204.57.120.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA20412 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:08:00 -0700 Received: from oasis (link077) by legend (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15526; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:03:49 -0500 Message-Id: <9506282003.AA15526@legend> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 15:05:30 -0500 From: Rob Snow Organization: G3 Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone got a printcap entry for BJ200? X-Url: news:comp.periphs.printers/24088-24187#3slcg4$mq7@news3.digex.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a printcap entry for a BJ200? I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5 --- Rob Snow rsnow@txdirect.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 14:11:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA23203 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:11:00 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA23194 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:10:56 -0700 Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.252.21.73]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14957(6)>; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:09:56 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00927; Wed, 28 Jun 95 17:09:52 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10120; Wed, 28 Jun 95 17:13:37 EDT Message-Id: <9506282113.AA10120@gnu.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: finally got things working -- more questions Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:13:36 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I finally got NFS running (I had to disable sio0 so interrupt 4 was free, and I had to change ed1 to use interrupt 4...) Adding users doesn't seem to work...I'm used to just: 1) adding an passwd entry 2) making a home directory 3) doing chown on the home directory... After I add the passwd entry, I can do things normally as the user it isn't working...what's wrong... I noticed there's a master.passwd file -- I tried that also with no luck... What's the process to add accounts? I tried the adduser.sh script, also with negative results... Also, the gnu binutils seem to work with linux-i386-a.out format (i.e. nm and objdump...) What's the difference between freebsd-a.out and linux-a.out (file seems to work with this...) BTW -- file 3.15 I found doesn't have the freebsd magic entries... marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 14:33:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA23940 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:33:50 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23934 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:33:48 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA01720 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:33:43 -0700 Received: from asylum.asylum.org by relay1.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQywda05843; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:31:33 -0400 Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id QAA04362; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:25:06 -0400 From: dlr Message-Id: <199506282025.QAA04362@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: finally got things working -- more questions To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9506282113.AA10120@gnu.mc.xerox.com> from "Marty Leisner" at Jun 28, 95 02:13:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 734 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk | | |I finally got NFS running (I had to disable sio0 so interrupt 4 was |free, and I had to change ed1 to use interrupt 4...) | |Adding users doesn't seem to work...I'm used to just: | 1) adding an passwd entry | 2) making a home directory | 3) doing chown on the home directory... | |After I add the passwd entry, I can do things normally as the user |it isn't working...what's wrong... | |I noticed there's a master.passwd file -- I tried that also with |no luck... | |What's the process to add accounts? look in the /stand dir for a script called adduser.sh. edit it as needed, read the man page for it and then use it. | |I tried the adduser.sh script, also with negative results... | What kind of negative results? dave From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 14:41:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA24194 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:41:45 -0700 Received: from comp1.aiiad.com (aiiad.com [204.235.85.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA24177 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:41:40 -0700 From: BRUCE@AIIAD.COM Received: from [0.0.0.0] by comp1.aiiad.com id aa000676 Wed, 28 Jun 95 17:42:42 Eastern Daylight Time--100 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 17:25:50 PDT Subject: start tcp To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon ENGP1, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailedby: NT SMTP/LISTSERVER v2.10 (ntmail@net-shopper.co.uk) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi Just got finished with install. cant ping except myself, addressing seems ok except the machine did add net 224.0.0.0 which I dont understand. using 3com etherlink III. I saw the note on the web about probs with this. I also saw the tutorial page on this 3c509b and went through it. are there other probs besides this ? should I not be using it at all. it's about all we use on our entire lan. by using dmesg | grep 0x300 I saw that other things were not probed because of address conflict, but not the other way around, like in the tutorial: I did not find that ep0 was not probed because of something else. also 'link2' was not on the line in the existing hostname.ep0. when I added it, I couldnt even ping myself. turns out ep0 wasnt found at 300, and niether was anything else. could you tell me if the usenix paper docset is readable if youre not a unix expert? does it point out for you what's important to set up and what components are involved in which goals, as opposed to being just a big list of features? I am a programmer and I have some xenix exp. Thanks very much Bruce Goldberg ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- E-mail: BRUCE@aiiad.com mail: Bruce Goldberg fax: 212-227-0127 American International Group phone: 212-770-9315 Internal Audit Division 99 John Street - 5th floor New York, NY 10038 Date: 06/28/95 Time: 17:25:50 ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 15:13:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA25393 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:13:09 -0700 Received: from Nastassja.esfm.ipn.mx (esfm.ipn.mx [148.204.102.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA25387 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:13:06 -0700 Received: from Gina.esfm.ipn.mx by Nastassja.esfm.ipn.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17486; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:08:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:14:00 -0600 (CST) From: Eduardo Viruena Silva To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kerndist. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I had a problem with my 3com509 that required to recompile the kernel. The problem was already solved and I would like to thank you for helping me. Actually, I did not know how to do it, but I found the answer in your Web page (How to... section 7.1: Ok, so how DO I compile my own kernel, anyway) I had to load ALL "srcdist" but, you mention the "kerndist" in your page. What exactly is "kerndist" ? I own a copy of FreeBSD 2.0 in CD-ROM and I could not find it. I navegate in the ftp servers looking for it and I could not find it either... --------------- Another question. I read in the release notes of version 2.0.5 that there is a driver for Sony's cd's. Can I download it and use it with my FreeBSD version 2.0 ? If I can, another problem is: WHERE IS IT ? It seemed to me that there are, in the source distribution, several files ssys*.* containing the kernel distribution and I assume that they hold the sony-cd driver. --------------- My last question: Do you happen to know where FreeBSD version 2.0.5 will be avaliable in CD-ROM ? According to Walnut Creek it will be released in late June... --------------- I thank you in advance, and I look forward to reading about you. Eduardo. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 15:21:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA25615 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:21:20 -0700 Received: from petrified.cic.net (petrified.cic.net [192.131.22.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA25608 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:21:16 -0700 Received: (from altitude@localhost) by petrified.cic.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA22560 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:21:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199506282221.SAA22560@petrified.cic.net> Subject: Exabyte 8505 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:21:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 297 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi gang. i was wondering what i need to do to get an Exabyte 8505 to work on a FreeBSD system (i'm running 2.0R but will be running 2.0.5-SNAP soon). Currently, when i try to access the tape in any way, it says either device busy or : #mt status 7: unknown tape drive type Thanx. ...alex... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 17:08:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA28548 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:08:45 -0700 Received: from emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp [157.80.23.41]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA28539 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:08:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199506290008.RAA28539@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: from tao.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp by emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29671; Thu, 29 Jun 95 09:05:20 +0900 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:09:02 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: wada@emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (Wada, Tatsuaki/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCT0JFRBsoQg==?=) Subject: xterm and xlogin did not run Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.5-J13) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to use XFree86 on FreeBSD 2.0.5. Although fvwm and xclock were running, both xterm and xlogin were failed. The following message was apeared. Error 23, errno 25: Inappropriate ioctl for device What does it mean? Am I missing the correct configuration? Can you help me? -- Tatsuaki Wada Dept. Electrical and Electronic Engineering Ibaraki University 4-12-1 Nakanarusawa, Hitachi, 316, Japan. e-mail: wada@ee.ibaraki.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 17:29:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA29623 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:29:19 -0700 Received: from uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au (uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au [130.102.192.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA29617 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:29:16 -0700 Received: from flute.cs.uq.oz.au by uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au id ; Thu, 29 Jun 95 10:29:14 +1000 Message-Id: <9506290029.AA29236@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Running fwtk-1.3 under FreeBSD 2.0R Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:29:13 +1000 From: Eddie Fung Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We are setting up an experimental fire wall using the TIS Firewall Toolkit version 1.3. The hardware running the firewall would be a 486 PC. The operating systems of choice are FreeBSD and Linux. We hit a problem while running the X gateway on the FreeBSD machine. The parent process opened the control window on the target X11 server successfully. But when a child process also wanted to open a window on the same top level shell, the XtCreateManagedWidget call hung. Is there any body out there having the same problem? Any solution? Regards Eddie From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 17:47:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA00461 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:47:35 -0700 Received: from bronze.coil.com (bronze.coil.com [198.4.94.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA00446 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:47:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (echet@localhost) by bronze.coil.com (8.6.4/8.6.12) id UAA04323; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:49:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:48:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Chet To: Marty Leisner cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: finally got things working -- more questions In-Reply-To: <9506282113.AA10120@gnu.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Jun 1995, Marty Leisner wrote: > > I finally got NFS running (I had to disable sio0 so interrupt 4 was > free, and I had to change ed1 to use interrupt 4...) > > Adding users doesn't seem to work...I'm used to just: > 1) adding an passwd entry > 2) making a home directory > 3) doing chown on the home directory... > > After I add the passwd entry, I can do things normally as the user > it isn't working...what's wrong... > > I noticed there's a master.passwd file -- I tried that also with > no luck... > > What's the process to add accounts? > > I tried the adduser.sh script, also with negative results... > > Also, the gnu binutils seem to work with linux-i386-a.out format > (i.e. nm and objdump...) > What's the difference between freebsd-a.out and linux-a.out > (file seems to work with this...) Login as suid and try adduser I works fine for me. Eric > > BTW -- file 3.15 I found doesn't have the freebsd magic entries... > > > marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com > Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) > Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic > Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 20:38:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA05988 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:38:07 -0700 Received: from utacnvx.uta.edu (utacnvx.uta.edu [129.107.1.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA05982 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:38:03 -0700 Received: (from xxnguyen@localhost) by utacnvx.uta.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA22022 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:42:48 -0500 From: "Mr. TR Nguyen" Message-Id: <199506290242.VAA22022@utacnvx.uta.edu> Subject: APC Backups 400 && ups daemon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-questions) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 21:42:48 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I think hackers would be a more appropriate forum, but it's kind of swamped for the time being. Anyways, I have an A.P.C. Back-UPS 400 with a serial connection to my FreeBSD 2.0.5R's comm port 3. I've unsuccessfully tried to write a simple program to read a single byte from this port (/dev/tty02) and check whether or not the "POWER-FAIL" bit has been raised (pin #4, according to the Owner's Manual) Here's what the simplistic logic looks like: open() "/dev/tty2" # comm 3 LOOP FOREVER: read() a single byte check to see if bit #4 has been set ..... END LOOP Anyone with examples/tips to share with this stumped-abuser? Thankx so much, TR Nguyen From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 21:09:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA06922 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:09:02 -0700 Received: from virgo.ai.net (root@virgo.ai.net [198.69.44.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA06915 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:08:58 -0700 Received: from aries.ai.net (aries.ai.net [198.69.44.1]) by virgo.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA00456 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:11:28 -0400 Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id AAA05252; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:08:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:08:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: BPF and tcpdump. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there anyway to get tcpdump to match across the contents of a packet instead of the header, and more importantly [even if it can't] is there a way to get it to print the entire contents of packet flow instead of just headers? Thanks, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 21:21:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA07269 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:21:14 -0700 Received: from ess.harris.com (su15a.ess.harris.com [130.41.1.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAB07257 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:21:12 -0700 Received: from borg.ess.harris.com (suw2k.ess.harris.com) by ess.harris.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00969; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:20:53 -0400 Received: by borg.ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04415; Thu, 29 Jun 95 00:18:32 EDT Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 00:18:32 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9506290418.AA04415@borg.ess.harris.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, xxnguyen@utacnvx.uta.edu Subject: Re: APC Backups 400 && ups daemon Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk If you wire the status line to the DSR (RS232 pin 6) then this should work: fd=open("device_name", O_RDONLY,0); get status with int tty_status; ioctl(fd, TIOCMGET, &tty_status); check it with if(tty_status & TIOCM_DSR) bla bla bla loop as you see fit, but I would put a sleep(1) in there somewhere also some of those UPS signals are open collector on the APC models I think pin 4 is common, pin 2 is line fail RS232 pin 3 is open collector line fail, pin 5 low battery open collector as with any "wiring" activity proceed at your own risk :-) Jim > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Wed Jun 28 23:40:47 1995 > From: "Mr. TR Nguyen" > Subject: APC Backups 400 && ups daemon > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-questions) > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 21:42:48 CDT > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG > > > I think hackers would be a more appropriate forum, but it's kind > of swamped for the time being. Anyways, I have an A.P.C. Back-UPS 400 > with a serial connection to my FreeBSD 2.0.5R's comm port 3. > > I've unsuccessfully tried to write a simple program to read a single > byte from this port (/dev/tty02) and check whether or not the "POWER-FAIL" > bit has been raised (pin #4, according to the Owner's Manual) > > Here's what the simplistic logic looks like: > open() "/dev/tty2" # comm 3 > LOOP FOREVER: > read() a single byte > check to see if bit #4 has been set > ..... > END LOOP > > > Anyone with examples/tips to share with this stumped-abuser? > > Thankx so much, > TR Nguyen > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 21:48:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAB08526 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:48:31 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA08520 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:48:29 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA276591279; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:48:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199506290448.AA276591279@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA027761271; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:47:51 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: Socks clients for 2.0.5R and 1.1.5.1R To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:47:51 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am after various socksified clients binaries for 1.1.5.1R and 2.0.5R, and wonder if anyone has built such things, and willing to make them available. Also, has anyone have any experience with using sockd with ipfw, tis fwtk, or tcp_wrapper on FreeBSD or using FreeBSD socksified clients with sockd on another box (be it FreeBSD or others) ? Any comments/suggestions/advices and things to watch out for ? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 28 22:55:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA11119 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 22:55:31 -0700 Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.191.196.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA11094 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 22:55:00 -0700 Received: (from tom@localhost) by misery.sdf.com (8.7.Beta.7/8.7.Beta.7) id WAA13573; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 22:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 22:58:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: questions@freebsd.org cc: hackers@freebsd.orgJulian Subject: Re: hanging boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, John Beukema wrote: > BTW, your e-mail address appears as "John Beukema ". Last time I checked, "somerset" wasn't a valid 1st level domain. > > add net default: gateway 134.98.91.21 > > add net 224.0.0.0: gateway lion, > > starting routing daemons: routed > > When it finally boots the whole way, I'll fix my /etc/ files > > I have the same problem but I do not know how to fix my /etc files. I do > not know what I did to cause root add to hang. ^C clears it and routed > eventually picks up the missing routes. What is causing the problem. Most likely a nameserver timeout. Are the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf reachable during boot? Also, this belongs in "questions". Tom From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 00:01:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA13135 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:01:35 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA13124 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:01:25 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-8) id AA11702; Thu, 29 Jun 95 09:00:03 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id JAA10248; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:13:47 +0200 Message-Id: <199506290713.JAA10248@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: start tcp To: BRUCE@AIIAD.COM Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:13:47 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) In-Reply-To: from "BRUCE@AIIAD.COM" at Jun 28, 95 05:25:50 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2227 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi > Just got finished with install. cant ping except > myself, addressing seems ok except the machine did > add net 224.0.0.0 which I dont understand. using ^^^^^^^^^ This is OK. It' s the setting up of the multicast route (mrouting support). > 3com etherlink III. I saw the note on the web about > probs with this. I also saw the tutorial page on > this 3c509b and went through it. are there other > probs besides this ? should I not be using it at > all. it's about all we use on our entire lan. by > using dmesg | grep 0x300 I saw that other things > were not probed because of address conflict, but > not the other way around, like in the tutorial: I > did not find that ep0 was not probed because of > something else. I don't know what special problems there may be with this type of card but you can - and I advise you to do - disable devices by hand using /kernel -c at the Boot: prompt. It is likely that a probing of another device may screw your network card. > > also 'link2' was not on the line in the existing > hostname.ep0. when I added it, I couldnt even ping > myself. turns out ep0 wasnt found at 300, and > niether was anything else. > > could you tell me if the usenix paper > docset is readable if youre not a unix expert? does > it point out for you what's important to set up and > what components are involved in which goals, as > opposed to being just a big list of features? I am > a programmer and I have some xenix exp. > > Thanks very much > > Bruce Goldberg > ---------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------- > E-mail: BRUCE@aiiad.com mail: Bruce > Goldberg > fax: 212-227-0127 American > International Group > phone: 212-770-9315 Internal > Audit Division > 99 John > Street - 5th floor > New York, > NY 10038 > > Date: 06/28/95 > Time: 17:25:50 > ---------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------- > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.0-BUILT-19950619 FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-1995 0619 #1: Mon Jun 19 19:54:08 MET DST 1995 kuku@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.d e:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 00:12:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA13814 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:12:50 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA13778 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:12:40 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA22152; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 16:43:47 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506290713.QAA22152@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Mail with PPP and non-fixed ip addresses. To: pechter@sesd.ilex.com Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 16:43:46 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199506281252.FAA05533@mail.barrnet.net> from "william pechter ILEX" at Jun 28, 95 08:50:49 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1570 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk william pechter ILEX stands accused of saying: > I just got my ppp connection and my provider's looking for a way to > route mail to lakewood.com to my machine for distribution. > > I've got a class C license for my local net at home. I'm getting assigned > an address for the PPP connection by his machine (BSDI v2.0). Bleagh. This is really suboptimal. Get his system to route to your Class C & use your address, not his, for your end of the connection. > He's unsure of the way to do it and is considering holding my MX and > using uucp to forward it over the ppp connection (since my ip varies with > each ppp connection). That'd work. > Is there a better way to do it using sendmail (either Sendmail v8 or > IDA) and smtp directly. No, smtp is send-only. > His other alternative is dropping all the mail to my domain into my > shell account on his machine and having me ftp it and deal > with dispersal locally. How many local users do you have? You could use popclient and a pop3 server at his end. > I know someone here's going to have a better way to do it. Doing it 'right' involves routing to your class C properly. > Bill Pechter |Systems Administrator | N2RDI -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 00:18:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA14111 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:18:36 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA14099 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:18:03 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA22183; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 16:48:48 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506290718.QAA22183@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Taylor UUCP configuration To: freelist@elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (FreeBSD Mailing List drop) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 16:48:47 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "FreeBSD Mailing List drop" at Jun 28, 95 11:51:03 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1047 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD Mailing List drop stands accused of saying: > I could use a little assistance getting UUCP to work. I'm about to do > my install of Uniboard and it requires a functional UUCP to handle the > user mail. I don't need any modem or direct connection systems, just TCP. > Can anyone point me at a basic configuration how-to for the Taylor UUCP > in FreeBSD 2.0.5? setenv INFOPATH /usr/share/info info uucp should start you in the right direction. (This presumes you installed the info distribution, of course 8) Essentially, look at the files in /etc/uucp; they're pretty self-explanatory, although you'll have to read the infopages to setup over TCP.) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 00:25:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA14581 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:25:43 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA14575 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:25:41 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA22195; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 16:54:43 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506290724.QAA22195@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: finally got things working -- more questions To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 16:54:43 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9506282113.AA10120@gnu.mc.xerox.com> from "Marty Leisner" at Jun 28, 95 02:13:36 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1531 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Marty Leisner stands accused of saying: > I finally got NFS running (I had to disable sio0 so interrupt 4 was > free, and I had to change ed1 to use interrupt 4...) You could, of course, move the card to a more sensible interrupt 8) > Adding users doesn't seem to work...I'm used to just: > 1) adding an passwd entry > 2) making a home directory > 3) doing chown on the home directory... > > After I add the passwd entry, I can do things normally as the user > it isn't working...what's wrong... > > I noticed there's a master.passwd file -- I tried that also with > no luck... > > What's the process to add accounts? Under 2.0 or 2.0.5? The "standard" way is to use vipw to edit the password file; this updates master.passwd and the password database. (Don't _EVER_ edit /etc/passwd any other way) Create & chown the user's home directory, and if you like, copy in the contents of /usr/share/skel and rename to suit. > I tried the adduser.sh script, also with negative results... adduser under 2.0 is broken; adduser under 2.0.5 is fine, although it tries to put every user into their own group 8( > marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 00:34:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA14956 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:34:02 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA14950 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:34:01 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA06147 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:33:56 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA22219; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:00:36 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506290730.RAA22219@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: tunnel device To: Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Mario Illgen) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:00:35 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mario Illgen" at Jun 23, 95 02:35:17 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 951 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Mario Illgen stands accused of saying: > is there any description about this device?? Or am I right that this > is not an interface which does IP-in-IP-tunneling?? That's correct, although it would not be difficult to use it for that. (In fact, a friend will be writing just such a tool shortly.) Look at it as a network interface plugged into the back of a pty; packets sent out the interface are read by the process on the pty, packets written to the pty are received by the kernel from the interface. > Mario Illgen, TU Chemnitz-Zwickau, Fakultaet fuer Informatik -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 00:54:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA15506 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:54:59 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA15500 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:54:55 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA22262; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:14:56 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506290744.RAA22262@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: APC Backups 400 && ups daemon To: xxnguyen@utacnvx.uta.edu (Mr. TR Nguyen) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:14:56 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199506290242.VAA22022@utacnvx.uta.edu> from "Mr. TR Nguyen" at Jun 28, 95 09:42:48 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1297 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mr. TR Nguyen stands accused of saying: > I think hackers would be a more appropriate forum, but it's kind > of swamped for the time being. Anyways, I have an A.P.C. Back-UPS 400 > with a serial connection to my FreeBSD 2.0.5R's comm port 3. > > I've unsuccessfully tried to write a simple program to read a single > byte from this port (/dev/tty02) and check whether or not the "POWER-FAIL" > bit has been raised (pin #4, according to the Owner's Manual) Urk. You're confusing pin 4 (CTS) with bit #4 in a serial data stream. > Anyone with examples/tips to share with this stumped-abuser? Yup; try this : int fd, status; fd = open("/dev/tty2",O_RDONLY); ... for(;;) { status = ioctl(fd, TIOCMGET, NULL); if (status & TIOCM_CTS) power_has_failed() sleep(60); } Haven't tested it, but it ought to work 8) Make sure you don't have a getty on the port at the same time. > TR Nguyen -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 00:56:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA15590 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:56:53 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA15583 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:56:44 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA22293; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:28:24 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506290758.RAA22293@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: BPF and tcpdump. To: nc@ai.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:28:23 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Jun 29, 95 00:08:48 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 845 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Network Coordinator stands accused of saying: > > > Is there anyway to get tcpdump to match across the contents of a packet > instead of the header, and more importantly [even if it can't] is there a > way to get it to print the entire contents of packet flow instead of just > headers? -s -x (from the manual page) will hexdump the packet; go look at the source if you want to add your own packet types. (It's not particularly hard) > -Jerry. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 01:01:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA15840 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:01:34 -0700 Received: from obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.55]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA15829 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:01:21 -0700 Received: from dig6.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de by obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with Local SMTP (PP) id <00835-0@obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:48:16 +0200 Received: by dig6.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de id AA02370 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:59:39 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:59:39 +0200 From: Jens Felber Message-Id: <199506290659.AA02370@dig6.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: pmake Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi folks ! > I'm Jens Felber, student of Technical University Chemnitz in Germany. > I'm looking for the BSD specific Program "pmake" wether in compiled > form or as source code. > I need it to compile another Operating System and FreeBSD 2.0 is the platform to make it. > Can anybody help me??? > Thanks for every Tip. > My E-Mail-adress: jfe@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > Thanks and bye > Jens. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 01:34:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA16906 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:34:07 -0700 Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA16897 ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:34:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:34:04 -0700 From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199506290834.BAA16897@freefall.cdrom.com> To: Jens.Felber@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pmake Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm looking for the BSD specific Program "pmake" wether in compiled icsi.Berkeley.EDU:/pub/ai/stolcke/software/pmake-2.1.27.tar.Z From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 01:46:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA17427 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:46:37 -0700 Received: from sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.47]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA17420 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:46:34 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id EAA02624 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 04:45:07 -0400 Received: (from gene@localhost) by starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA14660; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:20:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:20:17 -0400 From: Gene Stark Message-Id: <199506290120.VAA14660@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> To: Wes Santee Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Wes Santee's message of Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Any way to get hard links to directories? References: <3sr54q$d0d@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >That said, anybody have any ideas on how to have the ftp daemon allow >users who are logged in to see only their home (and below) directories >without the ftp daemon losing access to the files it needs to operate? Depends on what you mean by "see", but why don't you make each user's directory mode 700, owned by them, and make all higher-level directories mode 711 (read/write/execute by root, execute only for group and world). This way nobody but root will be able to list any directories, but they'll still be able to open files and execute binaries in them, if they know the paths. - Gene Stark From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 03:13:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA19972 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 03:13:56 -0700 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [131.188.40.80]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA19965 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 03:13:50 -0700 Received: from pizza by rachael.franken.de with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0sRGZU-000oTdC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:11 MET DST Received: by pizza.franken.de (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.4) id ; Thu, 29 Jun 95 09:03 MET DST Received: (from scratchy@localhost) by vulcan.franken.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA01143; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:32:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 18:32:06 +0200 From: Volker Paepcke Message-Id: <199506281632.SAA01143@vulcan.franken.de> To: echet@coil.com CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199506261807.OAA09310@bronze.coil.com> (message from Eric Chet on Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:07:40 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: cc1 signal 11 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > From: Eric Chet > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:07:40 -0400 (EDT) > Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG > > Hello > I have been trying to compile rayshade for FreeBSD 2.0.5R. > I get an error I don't know how to solve. > > "cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11" > > Could somebody give me some pointers in tracking this down? > > Thanks > > Eric -- echet@coil.com > > Compile the offending file without optimizing. This should help If I remember right. I can't tell You more specific bescause I don't have access to my machine at work right now. If You have any questions about rayshade drop me a note :-) volker From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 03:20:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA20223 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 03:20:37 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA20217 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 03:20:35 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA07695 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 03:19:48 -0700 Received: from quofum.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@quofum.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.18.37]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA27743; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:02:41 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (wosch@localhost) by quofum.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA23795; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:02:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:02:34 +0200 Message-Id: <199506291002.MAA23795@quofum.cs.tu-berlin.de> To: Michael Smith Cc: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: finally got things working -- more questions In-Reply-To: <199506290724.QAA22195@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <9506282113.AA10120@gnu.mc.xerox.com> <199506290724.QAA22195@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith writes: >adduser under 2.0 is broken; adduser under 2.0.5 is fine, although >it tries to put every user into their own group 8( See section UNIQ GROUP in manpage. And you can disable this feature, eg. put every new user into group 'guest'. Gruß Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://hyperg.cs.tu-berlin.de/C~wosch From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 05:27:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA22602 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 05:27:14 -0700 Received: from squid.umd.edu (squid.umd.edu [129.2.40.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA22596 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 05:27:11 -0700 Received: by squid.umd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA12850; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:36:14 -0400 From: fcawth@squid.umd.edu (Fred Cawthorne) Message-Id: <9506291236.AA12850@squid.umd.edu> Subject: Re: APC Backups 400 && ups daemon To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 8:36:13 EDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, xxnguyen@utacnvx.uta.edu In-Reply-To: <9506290418.AA04415@borg.ess.harris.com>; from "James Leppek" at Jun 29, 95 12:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > If you wire the status line to the DSR (RS232 pin 6) then this should > work: > fd=open("device_name", O_RDONLY,0); > > get status with > int tty_status; > ioctl(fd, TIOCMGET, &tty_status); > > check it with > if(tty_status & TIOCM_DSR) > bla bla bla > > loop as you see fit, but I would put a sleep(1) in there somewhere > This should indeed work... Another thing that should be added is a kernel option to clear the RTS line on a serial port when a reboot is completed. These UPS's have a pin that lets you shut them down from the computer. This is necessary in case the power comes back on for only a short period of time. If you just let the battery run out, you won't have enough juice left to go through a boot/shutdown cycle. I modified a kernel a while ago to do this, but it was a dirty hack. (i.e. an outb and a sleep or something like that) How about OPTIONS "RTS_REBOOT=0xwhatever" where the whatever is the address of the port or something like that ??? I have an APC Back-UPS 450. (But the interface to the 400,450,and 600 is the same) I have pin 1 on the UPS going to RTS, pin 2 going to DSR, and pin 4 going to ground. (In case anyone cares...) What I do is start a reboot cycle, so that if the power comes back on, the system will just restart. (The UPS ignores the "turn-off" signal if the power is on) When the system is all the way down. (i.e. before the "Rebooting..." printf) you just toggle RTS or some other serial port output. I guess toggling it would be more useful, because you could use it for a UPS that requires the reverse sense of the reboot signal. The UPS monitoring daemon just checks to see if the power has been off for more than 4 minutes, (while broadcasting warning messages) and initiates a reboot cycle. It sets RTS when it starts up as well. (The UPS needs a high signal for .5 seconds for it to shut off, and a set modem line gives you a low signal on the pin...) Anyway, this is a very easy thing to add to the kernel, and it is also very easy to write a power failure monitoring daemon. It would be nice if at least the kernel thing was in the standard distribution. Any ideas?? I'll put it in and test it if there's some consensus on how it should be configured. Fred. Fred. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 05:31:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA22873 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 05:31:34 -0700 Received: from gilbertr.npt.nuwc.navy.mil (GILBERTR.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL [129.190.75.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA22867 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 05:31:32 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by gilbertr.npt.nuwc.navy.mil (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA01470 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:25:46 GMT Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:25:46 GMT From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199506290825.IAA01470@gilbertr.npt.nuwc.navy.mil> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: netatalk Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I am searching for information regarding netatalk & FreeBSD. >I have gotten the sources for the latest version. Am I going >to be able to compile this for FreeBSD? Does anyone use netatalk >with FreeBSD? Any help/pointers would be appreciated. >** Ted Milbaugh, tkm@bellhow.com I've been on the netatalk mailing list for the better part of a year, patiently waiting for a netatalk port to FreeBSD. The last I heard, it had been ported to Linux at the beginning of this year, and a port to FreeBSD 2.0.5R was being initiated. CAPS, as I last understood, did not handle phase II appletalk on FreeBSD. The advent of lkm on FreeBSD made me think that a port of netatalk might be a little easier, but I've been to busy to contemplate looking at it. It's better left to the experts anyway. Bob Gilbert GILBERTR@wpn.npt.nuwc.navy.mil and sometimes root@gilbertr.npt.nuwc.navy.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 06:24:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA24421 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 06:24:42 -0700 Received: from nrnsinc.on.ca (0@rads.dnd.ca [131.136.194.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA24415 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 06:24:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199506291324.GAA24415@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: from nrnsinc.on.ca by nrnsinc.on.ca id <18079-0@nrnsinc.on.ca>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:24:26 -0400 Subject: Re: Exabyte 8505 To: altitude@umich.edu (Alex Tang) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506282221.SAA22560@petrified.cic.net> from "Alex Tang" at Jun 28, 95 06:21:11 pm Reply-to: robinson@nrnsinc.on.ca Organization: DREnet Network Coordination Centre, 1-613-599-7860, 1-613-990-9302 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1509 From: Ken Robinson Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, > i was wondering what i need to do to get an Exabyte 8505 to work on a > FreeBSD system (i'm running 2.0R but will be running 2.0.5-SNAP soon). > > Currently, when i try to access the tape in any way, it says either device > busy or : > > #mt status > 7: unknown tape drive type I haven't tried this on FreeBSD, but to add an 8205 on a SunOS 4.1.x machine, we needed to add the following to the st_conf.c file. /* Exabyte 8mm 2.3GB 8205 1/2 height cartridge w/compression */ { "Exabyte EXB-8205 8mm Helical Scan", 16, "EXABYTE EXB-8205", ST_TYPE_EXB8500, 1024, (ST_VARIABLE | ST_BSF | ST_BSR | ST_LONG_ERASE), 5000, 5000, { 0x14, 0x0C, 0x90, 0x0C }, { 0, 0, 0, 0 } }, This identifies the drive from it's ID string. You will of course have to make the appropriate modifications for the 8505 string. Also note, to use it without compression, use /dev/rstX where X=0-7, for compression, X=16-23, The value is based on the SCSI ID of the drive. Eg, ID 5 with compression should be 21. Good Luck. -- Ken Robinson DREnet Network Coordination Centre (NCC) NRNS Incorporated Phone: 613.599.7860 Fax: 613.599.7739 135 Michael Cowpland Dr., Suite 302 Kanata, Ontario K2M-2E9 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 07:56:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA26731 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 07:56:40 -0700 Received: from utacnvx.uta.edu (utacnvx.uta.edu [129.107.1.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA26724 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 07:56:36 -0700 Received: (from xxnguyen@localhost) by utacnvx.uta.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA27213 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:56:34 -0500 From: "Mr. TR Nguyen" Message-Id: <199506291456.JAA27213@utacnvx.uta.edu> Subject: A.P.C. Backup-UPS and replies To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-questions) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 9:56:33 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I would like to thank all those who replied to my inquiry regarding examples and tips for the APC back-UPS 400. I'll it to the test as soon as I get off from work -- and in the event that I should be so incompetent as to fail to get it to work (based on so much examples and tips), I think I'll do the most logical thing and plug the output of my UPS into my mouth. Thankx for everything, TR Nguyen -- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 08:32:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA28067 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:32:25 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA28061 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:32:21 -0700 Received: from zeta by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id KAA18570; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:32:53 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA19733; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:46:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:46:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta To: Marty Leisner cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: finally got things working -- more questions In-Reply-To: <9506282113.AA10120@gnu.mc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Jun 1995, Marty Leisner wrote: > > I finally got NFS running (I had to disable sio0 so interrupt 4 was > free, and I had to change ed1 to use interrupt 4...) > > Adding users doesn't seem to work...I'm used to just: > 1) adding an passwd entry > 2) making a home directory > 3) doing chown on the home directory... > > After I add the passwd entry, I can do things normally as the user > it isn't working...what's wrong... > > I noticed there's a master.passwd file -- I tried that also with > no luck... > > What's the process to add accounts? > > I tried the adduser.sh script, also with negative results... > > Also, the gnu binutils seem to work with linux-i386-a.out format > (i.e. nm and objdump...) > What's the difference between freebsd-a.out and linux-a.out > (file seems to work with this...) > > BTW -- file 3.15 I found doesn't have the freebsd magic entries... > > > marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com > Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) > Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic > Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 > > try using "vipw" it will update your database simultaneously! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 09:45:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA00396 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:45:54 -0700 Received: from cs.pdx.edu (lix@cs.pdx.edu [131.252.20.183]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA00389 ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:45:50 -0700 Received: (lix@localhost) by cs.pdx.edu (8.6.10/CATastrophe-12/23/94-P) id JAA20067; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:45:39 -0700 for Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:45:39 -0700 From: lix@cs.pdx.edu (xiaoyin li) Message-Id: <199506291645.JAA20067@cs.pdx.edu> To: current@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: xmosaic Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for an "xmosaic" software for FreeBSD system. I would appreciate very much if someone could provide me information where I can get it from ftp public domain. Thank you, Xiaoyin Li System Administrator PSU Bookstore Tel: (503)226-2631 Email: lix@rigel.cs.pdx.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 09:54:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA00776 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:54:05 -0700 Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA00769 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:54:00 -0700 Received: by haven.uniserve.com id <30828>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:54:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:54:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: xiaoyin li cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xmosaic In-Reply-To: <199506291645.JAA20067@cs.pdx.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, xiaoyin li wrote: > I am looking for an "xmosaic" software for FreeBSD system. I would appreciate > very much if someone could provide me information where I can get it from > ftp public domain. Try Netscape from ftp.netscape.com, or Chimera from packages collection on ftp.cdrom.com, or Arena from ftp.w3.org. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 10:29:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA01873 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:29:42 -0700 Received: from prades.cesca.es (prades.cesca.es [192.94.163.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA01867 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:29:39 -0700 Received: by prades.cesca.es (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07916; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 19:26:37 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 19:07:34 +0200 (METDST) From: Carles Amengual Subject: Re: TCP/IP Again To: William Harrison Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506281936.MAA17078@ix3.ix.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Jun 1995, William Harrison wrote: > With your help I quickly found the IRQ problmem and TCP/IP is working > in that I can telnet in or out etc. > Excellent. > I am not sure what is acceptable in the netstart parameters. ie whether > it is looking for YES or "YES" or a dotted decimal address. > I am not sure of what are you meaning. In principle, there is no reason for you to edit the generic netstart. I only suggested looking at it. > I have several UNIX books but none give details on netstart. > netstart is a startup script not standard to all UNIX flavors, it is used by FreeBSD and BSDI (and other BSDs, I suppose). You only should know what is done by the commands in the script, since looking at the scripts is probably the best "documentation" available. In case you do not know Bourne shell programming basics, I strongly encourage you to learn it, as it is easy and very useful. Carlos From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 10:30:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA01919 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:30:33 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA01913 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:30:29 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA27559; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:23:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:23:26 -0400 (EDT) From: FreeBSD Mailing List drop To: Michael Smith cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Taylor UUCP configuration In-Reply-To: <199506290718.QAA22183@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > > Essentially, look at the files in /etc/uucp; they're pretty self-explanatory, > although you'll have to read the infopages to setup over TCP.) They're perfect for dialout config, but lack pretty much any info for setup over TCP. The infopages seem like they'll do the job, thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 12:19:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA04188 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:19:33 -0700 Received: from ix4.ix.netcom.com (ix4.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA04182 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:19:32 -0700 Received: from by ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA02492; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:18:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:18:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199506291918.MAA02492@ix4.ix.netcom.com> From: perilous@ix.netcom.com (William Harrison) Subject: More TCP/IP To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have worked my way through the netstart script and made two changes: defaultrouter=NO I changed to defaultrouter=204.7.184.1 name_server=NO I changed to YES Ping and telnet work with dotted decimal but not with names. But nslookup works!!! I set up named.boot as a caching server. I downloaded named.ca from internic and set it up. There are no errors when named is run. If I ping to one of the names that happens to be in named.ca, I get the translation to dotted decimal but If I telnet or ping to a name that must be translated by a remote name server I get unknown host. I set up resolv.conf but it didn't help It appears that telnet and ping are talking to named but named isn't looking any further than what is in named.ca bill From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 12:45:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA04918 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:45:49 -0700 Received: from devnull (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA04912 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:45:47 -0700 Received: from olympus by devnull (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA12217; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:45:36 -0500 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA02890; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:45:44 CDT From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9506291945.AA02890@olympus> Subject: Re: Socks clients for 2.0.5R and 1.1.5.1R To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:45:43 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199506290448.AA276591279@relay.hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Jun 29, 95 02:47:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1224 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > I am after various socksified clients binaries for 1.1.5.1R and > 2.0.5R, and wonder if anyone has built such things, and willing to > make them available. > > Also, has anyone have any experience with using sockd with ipfw, > tis fwtk, or tcp_wrapper on FreeBSD or using FreeBSD socksified > clients with sockd on another box (be it FreeBSD or others) ? > > Any comments/suggestions/advices and things to watch out for ? > Only this. In include/socks.h, /* * Make clients that connect through SOCKS server to destinations * outside the firewall, but connect directly to destinations inside * the firewall. You can then, for example, rename the regular 'telnet' * to 'telnet.orig' and make a symbolic link for 'telnet' to point * to 'rtelnet' and from then on use the command 'telnet' no matter * whether the hosts you try to connect is inside or outside the * firewall. */ /* #define VERSATILE_CLIENTS */ you will need to know which way the server does it. Boyd -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner faulkner@isd.tandem.com _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 14:18:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA07795 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:18:14 -0700 Received: from rintintin.Colorado.EDU (root@rintintin.Colorado.EDU [128.138.126.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA07788 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:18:11 -0700 Received: from benji.Colorado.EDU (benji.Colorado.EDU [128.138.126.10]) by rintintin.Colorado.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) with ESMTP id PAA18946 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:18:01 -0600 From: WOOD JAMEY RYAN Received: (woodjr@localhost) by benji.Colorado.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) id PAA14878 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:17:57 -0600 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:17:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199506292117.PAA14878@benji.Colorado.EDU> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dos partition problems after a bad 2.0.5R installation Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I posted this same problem to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc a few days ago, but didn't come up with any suggestions... I installed 2.0.5R several days ago, and things went fine at first. But on the fifth or sixth boot, it came up with "panic: cannot mount root." Since I didn't have too much to loose at that point, I decided to just start over from scratch. But this time things didn't go so well. I noticed that dos's fdisk was suddenly totally useless. It will tell me it's doing anything I ask, but things are exactly as they originally were, after a reboot. Since then, I've been able to create a dos partition exactly once. I ran an old version of norton disk doctor (4.5), and it recognized that something was wrong and "searched the disk for dos partitions to rebuild the partition table." After that, fdisk showed a trashed partition table, but did let me delete everything and make a new dos partition. Unfortunately, I chose to make around 200 megs of the 515 meg HD a dos partition. But dos thought it had all 515 megs. Fdisk would show the partition as being 200 megs, but the dir would show 500 or so megs free, and freebsd also felt that dos had right to the whole disk, as it wouldn't recognize having room to install itself. So I did another dos fdisk to try to fix the dos partition. It deleted that dos partition, but is now back to its impotent mode... Won't create any dos partitions (or do anything else). And the norton disk doctor trick isn't working anymore (I've tried it many times). Freebsd doesn't seem to have any problems creating its partitions, by the way. And my drive is a Maxtor "540 meg" IDE drive. I've tried the fdisks from dos 5.0, 6.2, and 6.22... Unless I've totally forgotten, I'm sure I put in the correct geometry for my HD during that first freebsd 2.0.5 installation. The only thing I know of that I did wrong was telling it to leave the MBR alone, thinking I could use my current installation of os-bs without change. Could this have somehow caused these problems? So does anyone have any ideas? Or any insight about how freebsd and dos approach partitioning differently that could lead to freebsd's still working, and dos's being totally fried? I'm just at a complete loss and would appreciate any suggestions, pointers, anything. Thanks, Jamey Wood From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 15:06:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA09365 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:06:50 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA09359 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:06:49 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14991(6)>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:06:12 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <49860>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:06:03 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: Network Coordinator cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BPF and tcpdump. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 95 21:08:48 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:06:00 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Jun29.150603pdt.49860@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message you write: >Is there anyway to get tcpdump to match across the contents of a packet >instead of the header, If you are simply looking for a byte pattern, then you can use the offset of the bytes from the start of the IP header. For example, when I want to look for multicast traceroute packets, I use: tcpdump -x ip proto 2 and ( ip[20] == 0x1f or ip[20] == 0x1e ) since the IGMP type field is 20 bytes away from the ip header. > and more importantly [even if it can't] is there a >way to get it to print the entire contents of packet flow instead of just >headers? '-x' prints out a hex dump, '-s' increases the amount of data captured (normally it only captures enough to be able to print out packet headers.) "man tcpdump" helps a lot. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 15:49:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA10761 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:49:15 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA10754 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:49:12 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA28845 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:49:11 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 29 Jun 95 17:49 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 29 Jun 95 17:45 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Cdrom ok? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:45:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Perry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 414 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Did the last message get through? I think I sent it to support@freebsd.org... I hate when I do that :(. I found my cdrom drive box and it's an ATAPI I/F drive. Brand-new sony 4X. Will it work with Freebsd? And how come those mopes at walnut creek cdrom aren't replying? :) *sigh* I suppose you don't know that... Mike Perry And I got a 507MB (STRANGE #!) hard drive. Thanks for the help. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 17:13:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA13083 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:13:31 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easy1.easynet.com [199.2.26.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA13077 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:13:29 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sRTiA-000reoC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 17:13 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: 100BaseTX and SMC9332 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:13:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 119 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How does one put the de driver into 100 Mbit mode when using the SMC 9332? Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 17:51:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA13899 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:51:19 -0700 Received: from pandora.sf.ca.us (pandora.sf.ca.us [192.190.111.22]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA13893 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:51:16 -0700 Received: from [194.67.30.65] by pandora.sf.ca.us id aa00702; 29 Jun 95 17:46 PDT Received: (from root@localhost) by ns.aic.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA03721; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 03:57:42 +0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 03:57:42 +0500 From: Root Posted-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 03:57:42 +0500 Message-Id: <199506292257.DAA03721@ns.aic.net> To: robinson@nrnsinc.on.ca Subject: Re: Ports of FreeBSD Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! As I know, there are a lots of development tools for both Apple PowerPC/PCI and IBM PowerPC/PCI systems, including very good standards descs and hardware interface docs... The new OpenFirmware the best thing in these stds... you can check out www page of Power Micro Research, they 've lots of powerpc stuff... I can give more info, if necessary.... -edd -- Edgar Der-Danieliantz SENIOR ADVISOR AIC Research Laboratories/Open Systems Division " -Keep silence and be careful."-said Sir McDuck. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 19:56:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA16685 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 19:56:31 -0700 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (root@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA16679 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 19:56:29 -0700 Received: from scooter-ppp-bd.NeoSoft.com (scooter-ppp-bd.NeoSoft.com [198.65.165.188]) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA19157; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:56:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199506300256.VAA19157@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> X-Provider: NeoSoft, Inc.: Internet Service Provider (713) 968-5800 X-Sender: rberndt@popmail.neosoft.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:58:03 -0500 To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Randy Berndt Subject: Re: APC Backups 400 && ups daemon Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 12:18 AM 6/29/95 EDT, James Leppek wrote: > >If you wire the status line to the DSR (RS232 pin 6) then this should >work: >fd=open("device_name", O_RDONLY,0); > >get status with >int tty_status; >ioctl(fd, TIOCMGET, &tty_status); > >check it with >if(tty_status & TIOCM_DSR) >bla bla bla > >loop as you see fit, but I would put a sleep(1) in there somewhere > > James, About an hour after I saw your message, I was faced with a problem of being able to detect a CD drop on a serial port. Without your message, I would have spent literally hours digging around trying to find (or steal from an existing program) something that would 'get me by' (I'm quite new to this). With your 4 lines of code, you made my life considerably easier. I just wanted to say "THANK YOU!" I think the "A tells B something, and it really helps C" is the BIG value of this mailing list. Thanks again. Randy Berndt [Signature, like every damned freeway in Houston, is "under construction".] From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 20:10:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA17397 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:10:31 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA17390 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:10:29 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA168761720; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:08:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199506300308.AA168761720@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA186411712; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:08:32 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: ipfw and socks again To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 13:08:32 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was under the impression that if I am to use sockd on FreeBSD as a firewall machine, I should have all other machines on behind it have the IP_FORWARDING off, except the firewall machine itself should haveIP_FORWARDING on, is this correct ? Is this also correct with the kernel ipfw ? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 22:13:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA20305 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 22:13:12 -0700 Received: from blob.best.net (blob.best.net [204.156.128.88]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA20299 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 22:13:11 -0700 Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA19125 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 22:11:55 -0700 Received: from geli.clusternet (rcarter.vip.best.com [204.156.137.2]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA09722 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 22:12:31 -0700 Received: (from rcarter@localhost) by geli.clusternet (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA21196 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 22:10:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 22:10:28 -0700 From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-Id: <199506300510.WAA21196@geli.clusternet> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Please let me off... (pretty please??) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ok Folks, I have tried and tried to find the problem on this side, and I don't know where the problem is, alas. But it looks like it is on the majordomo@freebsd.org side. While I am on vacation the next 2+ weeks I really, *really* want to unsubscribe from the various freebsd lists, but I can't! Somebody, just DO IT!!!! Gary, Jordan, whoever, majordomo is not doing it's job. Tx. Russell, who for the first time since 6/94 plans to be analog for a while... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 29 22:50:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA21096 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 22:50:01 -0700 Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [204.215.209.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA21084 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 22:49:57 -0700 Received: (from bugs@localhost) by ns1.win.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA28062 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 01:52:42 -0400 From: Mark Hittinger Message-Id: <199506300552.BAA28062@ns1.win.net> Subject: re: help with Taylor UUCP To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 01:52:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 509 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) > It seems to me that things aren't working here, and with HDB I'd just > modify the chat script, but I don't seem to be able to determine > which config file holds the chat script. > uucico hot1 - (1995-06-24 01:15:08.67 392) DEBUG: icexpect: Got " " (timed out) > uucico hot1 - (1995-06-24 01:16:03.68 392) ERROR: Timed out in chat script > Sometimes this helps (in /etc/uucp/sys): protocol-parameter g init-timeout 1 Regards, Mark Hittinger bugs@win.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 01:51:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA25434 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 01:51:48 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA25425 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 01:51:40 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA24701; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 18:24:30 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199506300854.SAA24701@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ppp in auto mode question To: wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com (ED WOLPERT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 18:24:30 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9506211330.AA17439@eis16.philips.com> from "ED WOLPERT" at Jun 21, 95 09:30:39 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 968 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ED WOLPERT stands accused of saying: > network connection is being attempted by the user. Has anyone seen this? It does > not occur for root, and the .cshrc files are the same as the one created from the > adduser command, except the SHELL is changed to tcsh (from csh). Ideas? I've verified that starting tcsh causes a nameserver lookup; as yet, I don't know what it is (too lazy I guess 8), but it's got to go 8) FWIW, I use hosts-then-bind, and all my local hosts are in the file, so I'm a little puzzled as to _what_ it's resolving. > Edward Wolpert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 02:05:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA26173 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 02:05:40 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.0.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA26166 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 02:05:37 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA07927 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:07:41 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:08:09 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: broadcasting Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a simple question (maybe FAQ, but I cannot find answer from it). I did install FreeBSD 2.0.5R, only root and anonymous can login using ftp. Where is the problem? I have deleted root from /etc/ftpusers Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 02:18:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA26495 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 02:18:28 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA26488 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 02:18:25 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA02024; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 02:18:18 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199506300918.CAA02024@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Exabyte 8505 To: robinson@nrnsinc.on.ca Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 02:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: altitude@umich.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506291324.GAA24415@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Ken Robinson" at Jun 29, 95 09:24:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 781 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > > i was wondering what i need to do to get an Exabyte 8505 to work on a > > FreeBSD system (i'm running 2.0R but will be running 2.0.5-SNAP soon). > > > > Currently, when i try to access the tape in any way, it says either device > > busy or : > > > > #mt status > > 7: unknown tape drive type > > I haven't tried this on FreeBSD, but to add an 8205 on a SunOS 4.1.x > machine, we needed to add the following to the st_conf.c file. > [SUN specific changes deleted] > The freebsd SCSI code is TOTALLY different from the SUN code.. version 2.0R had some serious bugs many were cleared up by 2.0.5 but I think there are a couple of them still to go. FreeBSD doesn't support (yet) turning compression on or off. you're stuck with the drive default. julian From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 04:02:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA28754 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:02:05 -0700 Received: from prades.cesca.es (prades.cesca.es [192.94.163.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA28748 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:02:01 -0700 Received: by prades.cesca.es (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA13101; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:59:04 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:50:19 +0200 (METDST) From: Carles Amengual Subject: Re: More TCP/IP To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506291918.MAA02492@ix4.ix.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, William Harrison wrote: > I have worked my way through the netstart script and made two changes: > > defaultrouter=NO I changed to defaultrouter=204.7.184.1 > > name_server=NO I changed to YES > You are right with these settings. > Ping and telnet work with dotted decimal but not with names. > But nslookup works!!! > > I set up named.boot as a caching server. > I downloaded named.ca from internic and set it up. > There are no errors when named is run. > If I ping to one of the names that happens to be in named.ca, I get the > translation to dotted decimal but > If I telnet or ping to a name that must be translated by a remote name > server I get unknown host. > > I set up resolv.conf but it didn't help > Do you mean that nslookup gives the translation but ping or telnet cannot get it ? This is somewhat strange. I cannot help much more as I have no nameserver in my FreeBSD box, but I suggest that you confirm this and debug further (maybe dig would be better than nslookup). Carlos From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 04:10:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA29007 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:10:12 -0700 Received: from ccc.casc.com ([152.148.40.231]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA29001 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:10:08 -0700 From: jtendler@pc_mail.casc.com Received: from alpo.casc.com ([152.148.10.6]) by ccc.casc.com (4.1/3.1.012693-Cascade) Received: from pc_mail.casc.com by alpo.casc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11925; Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:07:51 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by pc_mail.casc.com id AA804521363 Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:09:23 EST Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:09:23 EST Message-Id: <9505308045.AA804521363@pc_mail.casc.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FTP Server Usage Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I am looking at setting up a FTP server for my office, and was wondering whether FreeBSD would be a good choice. If so, do you have or recommend any documentation on the procedure for doing this. FYI - We have the internet access already in place (56k lease line). THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOU RESPONSE From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 04:30:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA29442 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:30:15 -0700 Received: from ccc.casc.com ([152.148.40.231]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA29436 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:30:11 -0700 From: jtendler@pc_mail.casc.com Received: from alpo.casc.com ([152.148.10.6]) by ccc.casc.com (4.1/3.1.012693-Cascade) Received: from pc_mail.casc.com by alpo.casc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12008; Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:27:55 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by pc_mail.casc.com id AA804522568 Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:29:28 EST Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:29:28 EST Message-Id: <9505308045.AA804522568@pc_mail.casc.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Downloading Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You mention that you can get FreeBSD from the FTP server, yet when one looks at the directories - I have no idea what I need to get. How about a short list or text file explaining all necessary files needed to full use FreeBSD ? Thank you in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 04:31:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA29575 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:31:58 -0700 Received: from inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com (inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com [16.1.0.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA29569 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:31:56 -0700 Received: from tartufo.pcs.dec.com by inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com (5.65/24Feb95) id AA03821; Fri, 30 Jun 95 04:26:57 -0700 Received: by tartufo.pcs.dec.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.16.1 #16.39) id ; Fri, 30 Jun 95 13:25 MSZ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 13:25 MSZ From: me@tartufo.pcs.dec.com (Michael Elbel) To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw and socks again Newsgroups: pcs.freebsd.questions References: <199506300308.AA168761720@relay.hp.com> Reply-To: me@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In pcs.freebsd.questions you write: >Hi, > I was under the impression that if I am to use sockd on FreeBSD as >a firewall machine, I should have all other machines on behind it >have the IP_FORWARDING off, except the firewall machine itself should >haveIP_FORWARDING on, is this correct ? Is this also correct with the >kernel ipfw ? No, the other way around. *Only* the firewall with it's at least two interfaces is supposed to have ip forwarding turned *off* (or the ipfw configured to something similar, like blocking most traffic between the interface on the inside and that on the outside). IP forwarding on means that ip packets coming in on one interface that have a route to another one will actually get passed there - basically what having the machine be a router is all about. If you turn it off, the firewall will not be able to route, exactly what all the firewall stuff is about. Michael -- Michael Elbel, PCS GmbH, Muenchen, Germany - me@FreeBSD.org Fermentation fault (coors dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 04:45:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA29927 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:45:50 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (lupine.nsi.nasa.gov [198.116.2.100]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA29921 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:45:49 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA19084; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 07:43:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 07:43:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: pechter@sesd.ilex.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Old 1.1.5.1 ppp problem In-Reply-To: <199506240235.TAA04460@freefall.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, William Pechter ILEX Systems wrote: > I seem to be having one major problem. My modem drops the line on the > transition between kermit and pppd (or just after pppd starts). > > I used the info from the web site to get the dialer scripts and info up. > Any tips. When Kermit exits it drops the DTR line, which causes the modem to reset. You need to set your modem to ignore this; the way I do that is to send at&d0 to my modem. That of course means if you kill off your PPP daemon the modem doesn't hang up (since it's ignoring DTR), but since I do a modem reset when I redial (i.e. I send "+++", wait for "OK", then send "ATZ" at the start of my PPP scripts) it's not been a problem for me. Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | work: http://www.eco.nsi.nasa.gov/~mnewell | | home: http://www.newell.arlington.va.us | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 05:50:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA01061 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 05:50:50 -0700 Received: from irbs.irbs.com (irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA01055 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 05:50:48 -0700 Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA24738; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:50:09 -0400 From: John Capo Message-Id: <199506301250.IAA24738@irbs.irbs.com> Subject: Re: ppp in auto mode question To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506300854.SAA24701@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jun 30, 95 06:24:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 864 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith writes: > > ED WOLPERT stands accused of saying: > > network connection is being attempted by the user. Has anyone seen this? It does > > not occur for root, and the .cshrc files are the same as the one created from the > > adduser command, except the SHELL is changed to tcsh (from csh). Ideas? > > I've verified that starting tcsh causes a nameserver lookup; as yet, I don't > know what it is (too lazy I guess 8), but it's got to go 8) > > FWIW, I use hosts-then-bind, and all my local hosts are in the file, > so I'm a little puzzled as to _what_ it's resolving. > Named wants to go to the root servers for a reverse lookup even though the in-addr records are local and named has in-addr authority for my domain. irbs.irbs.com.domain > norad.arc.nasa.gov.domain: 509 A? . Perhaps this is normal for named. John Capo IRBS Engineering From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 05:57:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA01295 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 05:57:59 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.atinc.com [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA01289 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 05:57:57 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id IAA08949; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:52:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:52:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Please let me off... (pretty please??) To: "Russell L. Carter" cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506300510.WAA21196@geli.clusternet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, Russell L. Carter wrote: > Ok Folks, I have tried and tried to find the problem on this > side, and I don't know where the problem is, alas. But it > looks like it is on the majordomo@freebsd.org side. russell, you are not subscribed to ANY freebsd mailing list located at freebsd.org. i have checked repeatedly. the only carter is scarter@ucs.att.com; not you i assume. you must be subscribed thru a mail exploder at a third site. i cant help you there. please send me a message that you receive from the freebsd mailing lists; we'll use the headers to track down the problem. please communicate with me personally about this, rather than thru the questions mail list jmb > While I am on vacation the next 2+ weeks I really, *really* > want to unsubscribe from the various freebsd lists, but > I can't! Somebody, just DO IT!!!! Gary, Jordan, whoever, > majordomo is not doing it's job. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 06:15:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA01813 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 06:15:05 -0700 Received: from tserv.lodgenet.com (root@dial10.iw.net [204.157.148.59]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA01789 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 06:13:41 -0700 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by tserv.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA16052; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:14:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA19580; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:14:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199506301314.IAA19580@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: M C Wong cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: ipfw and socks again In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:08:32 EST." <199506300308.AA168761720@relay.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:14:12 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > I was under the impression that if I am to use sockd on FreeBSD as > a firewall machine, I should have all other machines on behind it > have the IP_FORWARDING off, except the firewall machine itself should > haveIP_FORWARDING on, is this correct ? Is this also correct with the > kernel ipfw ? > I don't think that you even need ipfw turned on on the firewall machine. The sockd stuff handles the forwarding. We have a connection to a providor who doesn't know how to route, so we use a ppp connection with a sockd host. The sockd host's ppp interface is on the providor's net, of course. If we use the kernel level ip forwarding, traffic off of our local net gets to our providor, who can't route back to us. The sockd makes connections to the internet on behalf of the local machines, so the providor's net doesn't need to know the routes back. All in all it's more of a firewall based in ignorance on our providor's part. > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com > Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 > Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 > 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 > http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) > eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 07:18:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA02805 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 07:18:25 -0700 Received: from bronze.coil.com (bronze.coil.com [198.4.94.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA02799 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 07:18:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (echet@localhost) by bronze.coil.com (8.6.4/8.6.12) id KAA13104; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:21:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:21:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Chet To: Volker Paepcke cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cc1 signal 11 In-Reply-To: <199506281632.SAA01143@vulcan.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Jun 1995, Volker Paepcke wrote: > > From: Eric Chet > > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:07:40 -0400 (EDT) > > Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Hello > > I have been trying to compile rayshade for FreeBSD 2.0.5R. > > I get an error I don't know how to solve. > > > > "cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11" > > > > Could somebody give me some pointers in tracking this down? > > > > Thanks > > > > Eric -- echet@coil.com > > > > > > Compile the offending file without optimizing. This should help If I > remember right. I can't tell You more specific bescause I don't have > access to my machine at work right now. If You have any questions about > rayshade drop me a note :-) > > volker > Hello I got it to compile with the optimizer off for transform.c. I was compiling the last official version from Craig Kolb 4.0.6. I know there is a net version 4.1 with all the bug fixes from the mailing list included but the site is down. The site was "tbird.cc.iastate.edu" do you know of another site for the net version? If you don't know RTNews is now on WWW. "ftp://ftp-graphics.stanford.edu/pub/Graphics/RTNews/html/index.html" Rayshade runs very well under FreeBSD 2.0.5. I'm now going to get Radiance going. Thank you for your time and help, Eric echet@coil.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 09:49:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA08460 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 09:49:04 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA08454 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 09:49:03 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA10730 ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 09:48:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199506301648.JAA10730@wc.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: wc.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: jtendler@pc_mail.casc.com cc: seidl@wc.cdrom.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP Server Usage In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 1995 07:09:23 EST." <9505308045.AA804521363@pc_mail.casc.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 09:48:23 -0700 From: "Matthew L. Seidl" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jtendler@pc_mail.casc.com said... > Hi there, > > I am looking at setting up a FTP server for my office, and was > wondering whether FreeBSD would be a good choice. If so, do you have > or recommend any documentation on the procedure for doing this. > > FYI - We have the internet access already in place (56k lease line). We run out ftp server on a FreeBSD machine, and we currently put out ~8Mbps. So, yea, freeBSD is a good choice, -=- Matthew L. Seidl email: seidl@cdrom.com =-= =-= Walnut Creek CDROM Sys Admin Project . . . What Project? -=- -=- Gamer, Re-Enactor, Student We're here to make your life better!=-= =-= and headed to U. of Colorado, Boulder in August -Morrow Quotes -=- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 10:52:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA10299 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:52:50 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA10293 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:52:49 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA00185 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:49:42 -0600 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:49:42 -0600 From: Brian Handy Message-Id: <199506301649.KAA00185@condor.physics.montana.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.0.5 install prob Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm thinking about upgrading my 486 to 2.0.5. I foresee one problem, though...I have a Dec DEPCA ethernet card, which doesn't appear to be supported in the basic release. What I've done in the past is to compile some files into my kernel so's the network card works. I have these files (if_se.c and if_sereg.h, if memory serves) on my system. Question is -- if I make the appropriate modifications to my kernel config file to include these bad boys -- can I compile a 2.0.5 kernel? Thanks Brian Handy From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 11:11:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA10826 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:11:48 -0700 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA10819 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:11:45 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA06564; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:12:28 -0600 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:12:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199506301812.MAA06564@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Brian Handy Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.0.5 install prob In-Reply-To: <199506301649.KAA00185@condor.physics.montana.edu> References: <199506301649.KAA00185@condor.physics.montana.edu> Reply-To: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) From: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm thinking about upgrading my 486 to 2.0.5. I foresee one problem, > though...I have a Dec DEPCA ethernet card, which doesn't appear to be > supported in the basic release. Actually, it is now. However, it's been renamed to 'le' instead of the older se driver. You should be able to use a line similar to this in your kernel config file to make it work. device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr Nate --- nate@sneezy.sri.com | Research Engineer, SRI Intl. - Montana Operations nate@trout.sri.MT.net | Loving life in God's country, the great state of work #: (406) 449-7662 | Montana. Wanna go fishing? Send me email, and we'll home #: (406) 443-7063 | setup something. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 11:26:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA11267 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:26:24 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA11251 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:26:12 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA10128 (5.65.kiae-2 for questions@freeBSD.org); Fri, 30 Jun 1995 22:15:10 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Fri, 30 Jun 95 22:15:09 +0400 Received: by init.rnd.su; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 21:59:03 MSD Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 21:59:02 MSD From: "Tikhon N. Ostapenko" Message-Id: <2ff43b68.init@init.rnd.su> Subject: help To: questions@freeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2. Patched by LS X-Class: Fast Sender: questions-owner@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk help From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 11:37:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA11808 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:37:38 -0700 Received: from echo.i-link.net (echo.i-link.net [199.172.8.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA11771 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:37:29 -0700 Received: from dallas-1-6.i-link.net by echo.i-link.net (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19831; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:36:36 -0500 Message-Id: <9506301836.AA19831@echo.i-link.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Vladimir V. Davydov" Organization: Lucid Corp. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:36:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: HELP Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk HELP QUIT END From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 11:38:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA11987 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:38:54 -0700 Received: from ec.sdcs.k12.ca.us (ec.sdcs.k12.ca.us [165.24.1.81]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA11978 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:38:50 -0700 Received: from [165.24.1.96] (mac13.sdcs.k12.ca.us [165.24.1.96]) by ec.sdcs.k12.ca.us (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA23655 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:22:15 -0700 X-Sender: bhonaker@ec.sdcs.k12.ca.us Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:45:13 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bhonaker@ec.sdcs.k12.ca.us (Bill Honaker) Subject: Kernel config for PS/2 mouse Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, does someone have handy the kernel config statements needed to install the psm0 driver for the PS2 mouse? Thanks in advance! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bill Honaker Software Systems Analyst (619) 293-8383 voice Information Services Bureau (619) 293-8069 fax San Diego City Schools E-mail: bhonaker@ec.sdcs.k12.ca.us 4100 Normal St. #1110 http://www.sdcs.k12.ca.us/people/wch/wchhome.html San Diego, CA 92103 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 12:07:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA15589 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:07:52 -0700 Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA15583 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:07:50 -0700 Received: from asylum.asylum.org by relay4.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQywka25070; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:07:30 -0400 Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id NAA08004; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:59:53 -0400 From: dlr Message-Id: <199506301759.NAA08004@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: help To: t.ostapenko@init.rnd.su (Tikhon N. Ostapenko) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <2ff43b68.init@init.rnd.su> from "Tikhon N. Ostapenko" at Jun 30, 95 09:59:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 69 Sender: questions-owner@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk | |help | Ummmm....could you be just a little more specific? dave From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 12:15:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA15853 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:15:59 -0700 Received: from petrified.cic.net (petrified.cic.net [192.131.22.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA15847 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:15:57 -0700 Received: (from altitude@localhost) by petrified.cic.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA27941 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:15:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199506301915.PAA27941@petrified.cic.net> Subject: installation question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:15:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 414 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi folks I'm trying to install 2.0.5SNAP on a gateway eisa machine. Everything is peachy, but i can't get the ethernet interface to come up. It's a 3C509 with TP/AUI/BNC. On my 2.0R box, I had to add "link2" to the "extra ifconfig" options when i wanted it to run on the TP port. Is this the same on 2.0.5SNAP? What do i put in the "Options" box of the TCP/IP configuration screen? Thanx much. ...alex... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 14:41:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA20145 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:41:27 -0700 Received: from quicknet.transport.com (quicknet.transport.com [204.119.17.160]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA20133 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:41:22 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by quicknet.transport.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA03328 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Jan 1980 23:42:25 GMT Date: Thu, 3 Jan 1980 23:42:25 GMT From: Tim Bach Message-Id: <198001032342.XAA03328@quicknet.transport.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: All network port's in use Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Everytime somebody tries to telnet in they get "telnetd: All network port's in use" I don't understand since i am the only one online when this happens. What are possible reasons for this.??. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 15:48:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA21772 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:48:43 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA21764 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:48:40 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05987; Fri, 30 Jun 95 16:41:33 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9506302241.AA05987@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Ports of FreeBSD To: robinson@nrnsinc.on.ca Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 16:41:32 MDT Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506211323.GAA20166@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Ken Robinson" at Jun 21, 95 09:22:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Now that IBM has released their systems, with the entry model at <$3000, > what are your thoughts? Do you intend to pick one of these up and start > porting? I have a PReP box coming from Motorolla. I'm sure code for it will run on the IBM as well (the value of PReP). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 15:53:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA22087 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:53:37 -0700 Received: from jupiter.avsi.com (jupiter.avsi.com [199.100.190.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA22079 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 15:53:34 -0700 Received: from avsi.com (jupiter.avsi.com [199.100.190.6]) by jupiter.avsi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA19373 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 18:54:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199506302254.SAA19373@jupiter.avsi.com> From: Allyn Hardyck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: some 2.0.5 weirdness Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 18:54:44 -0400 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk - the "stty erase ^H" command that was at the beginning of my .login doesn't seem to get executed properly now unless I put it near the end. - was getting a "need an operator" error running make - found that deleting some blank lines made this go away. - xlock used to be so speedy... now it's rather sluggish. When I saw this behavior with the machine on which I first installed 2.0.5, I thought it was because the 2.0 binary I was using was running under compatibility mode. But I compiled the new one under 2.0.5 (after getting past the make bug above) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 16:29:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA23718 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 16:29:37 -0700 Received: from lurch (facgate.uconn.edu [137.99.15.81]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA23712 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 16:29:36 -0700 Received: from cherry.engineering (cherry.eng2.uconn.edu) by lurch (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03051; Fri, 30 Jun 95 19:26:00 EDT Received: by cherry.engineering (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01944; Fri, 30 Jun 95 19:33:42 EDT Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Hugh Strong Subject: SWiM Motif 2.0 To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to know if anyone on this list has been using the SWiM Motif 2.0 package for FreeBSD, and if you are generally satisfied with the quality of the product. TIA. -- Hugh Strong hstrong@eng2.uconn.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 16:45:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA24411 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 16:45:55 -0700 Received: from w8hd2.w8hd.org (w8hd2.w8hd.org [198.252.159.25]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA24405 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 16:45:52 -0700 Received: (from kimc@localhost) by w8hd2.w8hd.org (8.6.12/w8hd2) with id TAA00331 ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:44:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:44:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Hugh Strong cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: SWiM Motif 2.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 Jun 1995, Hugh Strong wrote: > I'd like to know if anyone on this list has been using the > SWiM Motif 2.0 package for FreeBSD, and if you are generally > satisfied with the quality of the product. The product is very good but the installation process is totally broken to the extent it will not result in a working installation. regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 19:00:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA27566 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:00:22 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA27559 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:00:21 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQywlc02622; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 22:00:32 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA22823 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 30 Jun 1995 21:00:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 21:00:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Isildur To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: "Russell L. Carter" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please let me off... (pretty please??) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk yo dude... I have the same problem... I wanna get the hell offa this damn list coz I switched to linux! this bites... --------------------- Alex 'The //Other// Enlightened One' Dunbar |||||| Son of Don On Fri, 30 Jun 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, Russell L. Carter wrote: > > > Ok Folks, I have tried and tried to find the problem on this > > side, and I don't know where the problem is, alas. But it > > looks like it is on the majordomo@freebsd.org side. > > russell, > you are not subscribed to ANY freebsd mailing list located at > freebsd.org. i have checked repeatedly. the only carter is > scarter@ucs.att.com; not you i assume. > > you must be subscribed thru a mail exploder at a third site. i > cant help you there. > > please send me a message that you receive from the freebsd > mailing lists; we'll use the headers to track down the problem. > > please communicate with me personally about this, rather than > thru the questions mail list > > jmb > > > While I am on vacation the next 2+ weeks I really, *really* > > want to unsubscribe from the various freebsd lists, but > > I can't! Somebody, just DO IT!!!! Gary, Jordan, whoever, > > majordomo is not doing it's job. > > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. > FreeBSD Postmaster | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy > play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 > ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 19:29:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA28349 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:29:36 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA28343 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:29:31 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA00166 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:26:22 GMT Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:26:22 GMT From: Brian Handy Message-Id: <199506301926.TAA00166@condor.physics.montana.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.0.5 install woes Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm in the midst of a 2.0.5 install...made it past the network card, got the binaries, started trying to re-establish the old system, passwords, usr directories... And I've hosed myself. I don't seem to have the root password, and I don't remember how to reinstall the old password database. With the first problem, I thought I could just boot single-user and change the password. Well, it only mounts the / partition, and that is read-only it seems. I could mount the rest, I think...but that still doesn't deal with this read-only problem. Any suggestions? Thanks Brian Handy From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 21:36:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA01839 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 21:36:27 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA01833 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 21:36:26 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA00969; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 21:33:18 GMT Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 21:33:18 +0000 () From: Brian Handy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Things are going well... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! First off, thanks to the folks who've sent me e-mail making suggestions. I'm back on track there. It seems like every time I do this there's a certain amount of pain involved, and I like to spread it around. In that vein, I have two more questions...and one suggestion. (1) How do I re-install the old password database? I'd RTFM, but I've tried that and I can't figure out where to look. (2) I'm now fighting the XF86Config install. Before I was running XF V3.1 I believe, and I had a working XF86Config file. I thought I would be clever and just use that file again with V3.1.1...but that doesn't seem to be the case. (Monitor is a DEC 20" multisync thingy; card is 2MB #9GXE64.) So far...I've done a MAKEDEV to generate /dev/tty00, which is what I had before with 1.1.5.1...is this wrong? (Oh, BTW, it's a serial mouse.) I haven't sorted out exactly what it is the X stuff doesn't like yet. Work in progress. Suggestions and moral support welcome. (3) Which leads to my suggestion...I went for the basic user install, which is to say binaries and XFree, no sources (figured I'd grab the kernel later). What would be useful to have with the XFree distribution in ANY case would be the docs that show up in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/docs. Those didn't seem to come along. They would certainly be nice to have! Thanks again for the help I've gotten so far...wish I didn't require it so much... Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 23:31:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA03891 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 23:31:02 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA03883 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 23:31:00 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-8) id AA07116; Sat, 1 Jul 95 08:30:58 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id IAA15216; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 08:44:37 +0200 Message-Id: <199507010644.IAA15216@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Kernel config for PS/2 mouse To: bhonaker@ec.sdcs.k12.ca.us (Bill Honaker) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 08:44:36 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) In-Reply-To: from "Bill Honaker" at Jun 30, 95 11:45:13 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 900 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > does someone have handy the kernel config statements needed to install the > psm0 driver for the PS2 mouse? from /sys/i386/conf/LINT: device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr > > Thanks in advance! > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bill Honaker > Software Systems Analyst (619) 293-8383 voice > Information Services Bureau (619) 293-8069 fax > San Diego City Schools E-mail: bhonaker@ec.sdcs.k12.ca.us > 4100 Normal St. #1110 > http://www.sdcs.k12.ca.us/people/wch/wchhome.html > San Diego, CA 92103 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.0-BUILT-19950619 FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-1995 0619 #1: Mon Jun 19 19:54:08 MET DST 1995 kuku@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.d e:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 00:40:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA05110 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 00:40:55 -0700 Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA05104 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 00:40:52 -0700 Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA17554; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:40:44 +0300 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:40:44 +0300 Message-Id: <199507010740.KAA17554@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Jim Leppek Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: tcpblast In-Reply-To: <199506251815.OAA00556@cyclops> References: <199506251815.OAA00556@cyclops> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Leppek writes: > I was running the following: > > tcpblast 127.0.0.1 > > and got some strange results would anyone care to explain them? > this is on a DX4/100 16Meg, X is running with three idle xterms. > the system is a 2.0.5R, only the test is active, no build worlds > or anything :-) > > (the use of my hostname, localhost, or 127.0.0.1 makes no difference) > > these tests were run in a row, I just "up arrowed" and changed > the number of blocks. > > The thruput varies greatly, is this normal? Would it be possible that because of the large MTU of the loopback- interface you are experiencing TCP deadlock? Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 09:14:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA23895 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:14:08 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA23880 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:14:07 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA04166 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:10:58 GMT Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:10:58 GMT From: Brian Handy Message-Id: <199507010910.JAA04166@condor.physics.montana.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Last (?) install q... Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk OK...I think I've got things up and running... I was trying to install fvwm. First, tried the package_add route, and got: condor % /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm ld.so: fvwm: libXpm.so.4.5: Undefined error: 0 condor % I also got this by compiling the port. I've also downloaded the xpm package, and also compiled that port too to try to solve this problem Suggestions? Thanks Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 09:38:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA24480 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:38:07 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA24471 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:38:05 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-8) id AA08992; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:37:38 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id SAA15977; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 18:51:08 +0200 Message-Id: <199507011651.SAA15977@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Last (?) install q... To: handy@condor.physics.montana.edu (Brian Handy) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 18:51:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) In-Reply-To: <199507010910.JAA04166@condor.physics.montana.edu> from "Brian Handy" at Jul 1, 95 09:10:58 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1046 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > OK...I think I've got things up and running... > > I was trying to install fvwm. First, tried the package_add > route, and got: > > condor % /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm > ld.so: fvwm: libXpm.so.4.5: Undefined error: 0 I had this problem, too when building xboing recently. Xpm was required so I first built Xpm.This message occured although libXpm.so.4.5 was definitely there ( in /usr/X11R6/lib). I forgot to check the ldconfig path at that time but I fixed it (the dirty way) by doing a cd /usr/X11R6/lib for i in lib* do ln -s `pwd`/$i /usr/lib/$i done and the problem was gone. > condor % > > I also got this by compiling the port. I've also downloaded > the xpm package, and also compiled that port too to try > to solve this problem > > Suggestions? > > Thanks > > Brian > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.0-BUILT-19950701 FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT- 19950701 #0: Sat Jul 1 15:37:15 1995 kuku@monk.physik.rwth-aachen.d e:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 09:45:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA24763 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:45:28 -0700 Received: from suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (suned1.nswses.navy.mil [137.24.30.40]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA24757 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:45:26 -0700 Received: from slced1 (slced1.nswses.navy.mil) by suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (4.1/Nswses4.1.2_920723eb) id AA26479; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:45:25 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:45:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Everett F Batey WA6CRE X-Sender: efb@slced1 To: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: FAQ, README Upgrade, non-destructive and volunteer Message-Id: X-Phone: +1 805 982-7180 DSN: 551-7180 Pgr: +1 805 655-2017 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks, Have alas gotten X11 to work, albeit poorly (cockpit), on my 486-66 with my ill documented S3 and an unknown SuperCOM SV1485 monitor. UPGRADE SAFETY: If I get and install the 2.0.5 NewCDROM .. will I lose all my installed users and efforts to install external ports .. I am used at the worst with SunOS to be able to do a "preserve" and have most of my post- delivery add on work left at least as a .FCS file. Is there any hope I can upgrade and not have to redo all this .. Alternately is there a list of all the over-writable files to archive ? Kermit-net is my best connection just now .. thanks for any help. VOLUNTEER: I would also be interested in doing some work for FreeBSD if I could help with a project that might get a higher comfort level with BSD in the K12 educators. I am currently putting my school district, www.oxnardsd.org, on the internet and hope to park a Unmix server on 15 campuses. This is monumental when you try to get the Unix phobia out of 15 to 100 adult educator-a-saurs. Thanks for any tips on where I can play in .. do a little perl and been hooking folks to the Internet for several years. /Ev/ + efb@suned1.nswses.Navy.MIL efb@gcpacix.cotdazr.org efb@uvsi.jpl.nasa.gov + + efb@nosc.mil efb@oxnardsd.org Gold Coast Sun Users [EFB15] WA6CRE + + The Genie is Out of the Bottle! http://halide.acs.uci.edu/GCSUG User Gp + + Opinions, MINE, NOT Uncle_s | innd http://www.oxnardsd.org/ email DNS + From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 09:46:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA24883 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:46:05 -0700 Received: from monge.brunel.ac.uk (pp@monge.brunel.ac.uk [134.83.72.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA24877 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 09:46:03 -0700 Received: from mishmash.brunel.ac.uk by monge.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <26437-0@monge.brunel.ac.uk>; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:45:17 +0100 From: Nik Clayton Message-Id: <4626.9507011645@mishmash.brunel.ac.uk> Subject: Problems with 2.0.5 950622 SNAP To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:45:34 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4035 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How do, My soon to be FreeBSD box is as follows: 100Mhz Pentium, 16Mb RAM, 1Gb SCSI HD (Adaptec AHA-2940 card, it's PCI). The disk is currently partitioned with the first 150Mb for DOS, and the rest (hopefully) for FreeBSD. There are no other disk controllers in the machine. Under DOS it all works fine. I've created c:\freebsd, and put the \bin and \floppies directories in there (in seperate directories, obviously). However, there are problems with FreeBSD. SYMPTOMS My boot floppy works fine. I can partition and label the disk, select the distribution I want to load and specify the distribution media no problem. However, when I commit the installation, one of two things can happen. 1. The machine almost immediately reboots. If I then go back to the partition/labeller, I see my partitions and labels are still intact, but the mountpoints have disappeared. If I re-allocate the mountpoints and re-commit then... 2. It starts unpacking the distribution. However, (with debugging messages turned on) we get to piece 31 of the 59 or so binary distribution bundles and then abort with the message that /mnt/usr is full. A quick "df -k" over on Alt-F4 (the 'holographic' shell(!)) shows that /mnt/usr is 104% full, consisting of 20,000 1K disk blocks. This despite allocating over 700Mb to /usr in the label. At this point the installation falls over. BIOS Anticipating that this might be causing problems, I've investigated the options. At the moment, the BIOS is configured for a SCSI disk, (although these problems remain if I tell the machine's BIOS that there is no disk attached (and hence no geometry), and let the controller BIOS handle it) and the controller has Host Adapter BIOS turned *ON*. If I turn this option off then the BIOS refuses to see the disk at boot time. Since this is my only boot disk it's kinda critical to have it on... ... however, I have turned "Extended BIOS translation for DOS Drives > 1GB" off. As far as I know, this should remove any problems, particularly since the DOS partition is completely below the 1Gb limit. When I get to the partition screen, I'm told that my BIOS geometry is 1010 cyls, 64 heads and 32 sectors. Quoting from the FreeBSD handbook (http://freefall.cdrom.com/How/handbook/handbook-62.html) I see that "As you might already know, the FreeBSD kernel reports the geometry of SCSI disks when booting." I wish it did. On booting my system I just get told that it's a 1010Mb drive with 512byte sectors (I think). Nothing that looks vaguely like a BIOS geometry is reported. KERNEL I'd love to include a dmesg output from bootup, but the system is unable to link the kernel into the correct place, so the chrooted holographic shell can't pick it up. I'm not booting the kernel with any -c parameters to disable devices (although, after reading the mailing list archives I've tried disabling lpt0, ie0, mcd0, mcd1 and wt0, which had no effect). THINGS I'VE TRIED Just about every BIOS setting I can think of (it's an AMI BIOS BTW). I've turned drive translation on and off. I've told the controller not to enable the host adapter BIOS (which then means it can't boot). I've alternately told the BIOS that there's a SCSI drive attached and that there's no drive attached. All to no avail. I've tried labelling partitions of different sizes (and different numbers of partitions). Net result: 0. I even tried booting from a 2.0R boot floppy I've got lying around. No joy. I'm off to play Descent for an hour or so to get my brain away from this problem (total time spent battling so far, 6 hours). If any of you out there have got any clue how to fix, please, please enlighten me. N PS: Other than this small problem, I really like the look of the new install process. =-[Opinion, n: See the above text for an example]=-=[Kibo #: e]-[RYRYRY]=-= =-[The Silly Sod Society: To perfect and to swerve]=-[beable]-=[TP U BG]=-= There's no future in time travel. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 10:10:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAB25424 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:10:12 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA25417 ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:10:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199507011710.KAA25417@freefall.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Nik Clayton cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with 2.0.5 950622 SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 01 Jul 95 17:45:34 BST." <4626.9507011645@mishmash.brunel.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 10:10:10 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >BIOS > Anticipating that this might be causing problems, I've investigated > the options. At the moment, the BIOS is configured for a SCSI disk, > (although these problems remain if I tell the machine's BIOS that there > is no disk attached (and hence no geometry), and let the controller BIOS > handle it) and the controller has Host Adapter BIOS turned *ON*. If I > turn this option off then the BIOS refuses to see the disk at boot time. > Since this is my only boot disk it's kinda critical to have it on... The system BIOS should have no entry for attached drives. The system BIOS is only used for IDE interfaces. Since you are booting off of the 2940, you must enable its BIOS. > ... however, I have turned "Extended BIOS translation for DOS Drives > > 1GB" off. As far as I know, this should remove any problems, > particularly since the DOS partition is completely below the 1Gb > limit. If you partitioned your disk under DOS with Extended BIOS translation on, then you will totally confuse FreeBSD by turing it off. FreeBSD will take the geometry from the BIOS, it will conflict with the geometry (255/64/8192) used to set the DOS partition boundaries in the partition table. If you want to be able to have FreeBSD and DOS coexist, you must partition with and leave the board in the same translation mode. Since you already have DOS installed, I would suggest going back to having Extended translation on. Make sure that the install program sees that you have a 255/63 translation at that time. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 10:16:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA25635 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:16:36 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA25629 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:16:35 -0700 Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.252.21.73]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14613(4)>; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:15:50 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02650; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:15:38 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06693; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:19:29 EDT Message-Id: <9507011719.AA06693@gnu.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: pwd_mkdb on 2.0 eventually core dumps Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:19:29 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, I got a freebsd system up and running...(I need to boot with -c, disable sio0 and convert ed1 to irq 4.) To make an account, I was to run vipw (looks like a lot of stuff is being done under the hood) but after I run vipw I get on the console: pid 110: pwd_mkdb: uid 0: exited on signal 11 and my new account doesn't take... 1) is there a simple way to add an account? 2) is there a way to automate the boot procedure (short of rebuilding the kernel?) 3) is there a way to boot from dos (seems pretty simple...) 4) is there an implementation of strace/trace for freebsd marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 12:05:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA28572 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:05:25 -0700 Received: from deltanet.com (server1.deltanet.com [199.171.190.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA28566 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:05:22 -0700 From: rob.rose@bigbear.com Received: from bigbear.com by deltanet.com with UUCP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA18287; Sat, 1 Jul 95 12:05:21 -0700 Received: by bigbear.com id 0GUYI001 Sat, 01 Jul 95 12:00:05 -0800 Message-Id: <9507011200.0GUYI00@bigbear.com> Organization: Big Bear Online -> America's computer store & satellite HUB X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Date: Sat, 01 Jul 95 12:00:05 -0800 Subject: install To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ok, ive gotten as far as the install can go. i am at the install distribution menu and need to pick a media source to continue. i have the dreaded sony cdu55 cdrom. it is on my generic ide controller. is there a driver out for this yet? if not how do i make dos floppy set from the cd in dos mode so i can finish from floppies? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- / BIG BEAR ONLINE INFORMATION SERVICE SERVING BIG BEAR VALLEY \ - Ski/Tourist & System Info Send Blank Email to info@bigbear.com - \ FREEBSD UNIX Mail List 4 TBBS/ISP SysOp's fbsdlist@bigbear.com / - Modem (909)866-2138 28.8 Fido 1:207/501 Inet sysop@bigbear.com - / Computer/Network parts at wholesale prices call (909)866-2196 \ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 12:48:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA29571 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:48:37 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA29565 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:48:36 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA00170 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:45:27 GMT Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:45:27 GMT From: Brian Handy Message-Id: <199507011245.MAA00170@condor.physics.montana.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NOW: xdm woes Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well...sigh...most things work. I've got 2.0.5 running fine it seems, x works, and the xpm stuff compiles and the fvwm compile found it! (thanks Chris!) So...the next problem. Xdm is up and running via the /etc/ttys file. However, it's not executing my .xsession file when I log in. Also...it seems my speaker is beeping about 10x louder than it did before the upgrade! What's up with that? Thanks! Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 13:04:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA00135 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 13:04:25 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA00128 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 13:04:22 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA00278 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 13:01:14 GMT Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 13:01:14 GMT From: Brian Handy Message-Id: <199507011301.NAA00278@condor.physics.montana.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: xdm problem solved Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi again! Well..after my last missive, I went back and read the man page on xdm. It turns out I had not downloaded the customizeable xdm files, so... alas. I'm up and running on 2.0.5 now. Thanks to all you who responded to my whining and complaining about how things didn't work, and rest assured you'll hear from me again! Thanks again Brian Handy From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 16:59:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA07786 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 16:59:43 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA07779 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 16:59:42 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol Prev-Resent: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 16:59:42 -0700 Prev-Resent: "questions@freebsd.org " Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA07478 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 16:45:25 -0700 Received: (dim@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/PHILMAIL-1.11) id QAA20534 for jkh@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 16:45:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 16:45:22 -0700 From: "D. Gerasimatos" Message-Id: <199507012345.QAA20534@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@freebsd.org Subject: ld.so question Resent-To: questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 16:59:42 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <7778.804643182@freefall.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am running 2.0.5. I was running without difficulties until yesterday. I wanted to run named, so I set the system up for that. Then, I compiled a new version of named with a different path.h . named works fine and is running. However, now sendmail and man are broken. I get the following error: e.g. lemon# man man No ld.so I checked to see if I had an ld.so in /usr/libexec and I did. Then I downloaded the binary dist again and got that ld.so. It appeared to be exactly the same (using "diff"), but I replaced ld.so anyhow. Typing "/usr/libexec/ld.so" gives: I also checked mail.local. No wonder sendmail wants to barf, because I see: ^@Failure reading ld.so ^@Bad magic: ld.so ^@Cannot map ld.so ^@ld.so failed I am unsure what to do about this. So far, only "man" and "mail.local" seem broken. A reboot (and hence new ldconfig) doesn't solve the problem. I am finally stumped. An unrelated matter is that I can't seem to clear inodes. "fsck" says it is clearing them, but it doesn't. I even did "clri" and I get the same disk errors (wrong superblock count, etc.). It's kind of annoying, but it's been like that for a long time. I think it's totally unrelated to the above problem, but I thought I'd mention it. Sorry to bother you directly, but I can't recall the mailing list address! :) Thanks for any help... Dimitrios /usr/libexec/ld.so: Exec format error. Wrong Architecture. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 17:08:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA08105 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:08:16 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA08099 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:08:14 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA10005; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 09:40:52 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199507020010.JAA10005@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb on 2.0 eventually core dumps To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 09:40:51 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9507011719.AA06693@gnu.mc.xerox.com> from "Marty Leisner" at Jul 1, 95 10:19:29 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1534 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Marty Leisner stands accused of saying: > > > Well, I got a freebsd system up and running...(I need to boot > with -c, disable sio0 and convert ed1 to irq 4.) > > To make an account, I was to run vipw (looks like a lot of stuff > is being done under the hood) but after I run vipw I get on the > console: > pid 110: pwd_mkdb: uid 0: exited on signal 11 > > and my new account doesn't take... > > 1) is there a simple way to add an account? Yes, you're using it. vipw works just fine - your problem is either memory hardware or some bizarre mismatch due to you corrupting the password files. You may want to dig up a fresh set (either off the CD or from some kind soul; you'll want a copy of master.passwd and pwd.db, run vipw to cread passwd. > 2) is there a way to automate the boot procedure (short of > rebuilding the kernel?) 2.0 or 2.0.5? 2.0.5 reads and saves the kernel changes for you. > 3) is there a way to boot from dos (seems pretty simple...) fbsdboot, iirc. > 4) is there an implementation of strace/trace for freebsd ktrace may do what you want; how about something more than a name? > marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 17:14:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA08260 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:14:35 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA08254 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:14:33 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA10030; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 09:48:31 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199507020018.JAA10030@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: NOW: xdm woes To: handy@condor.physics.montana.edu (Brian Handy) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 09:48:31 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507011245.MAA00170@condor.physics.montana.edu> from "Brian Handy" at Jul 1, 95 12:45:27 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 806 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Brian Handy stands accused of saying: > So...the next problem. Xdm is up and running via the /etc/ttys file. > However, it's not executing my .xsession file when I log in. Check that your .xsession file is owned by you, and has the x bit set. > Also...it seems my speaker is beeping about 10x louder than it did before > the upgrade! What's up with that? Different (lower) frequency. IIRC you can change it. > Brian -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 17:40:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA09093 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:40:19 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA09086 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:40:18 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA13136 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 19:40:17 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:40 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:40 CDT Message-Id: Subject: ARGGHH! To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 19:40:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike Perry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 259 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk *sigh* My cdrom IS ide!! :'( Would it be possible to just install Freebsd with it? If not, how painful would installing Freebsd over the internet be with a 28.8kbps(100-and-something with compression) SLIP line? Has anyone done it before who can help me? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 17:54:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA09349 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:54:53 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA09343 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:54:52 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02101; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:52:59 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA28663; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 18:57:09 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 18:57:09 -0600 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9507020057.AA28663@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: mikepery@mcs.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (mikepery@mcs.com) Subject: Re: ARGGHH! Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk You could also copy the files to a SCSI tape and install from tape ... assuming you have a tape drive. You might also want to try copying the files to a DOS primary partition and install from there. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA TASK: Shoot yourself in the foot. In Modula2: After realizing that you can't actually accomplish anything in this language, you shoot yourself in the head. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 18:14:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA10183 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 18:14:14 -0700 Received: from ess.harris.com (su15a.ess.harris.com [130.41.1.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA10177 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 18:14:13 -0700 Received: from borg.ess.harris.com (suw2k.ess.harris.com) by ess.harris.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27856; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 21:14:10 -0400 Received: by borg.ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00633; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:11:49 EDT Date: Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:11:49 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9507020111.AA00633@borg.ess.harris.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: tcpblast Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pete, You may have something there. if I leave the mtu at 16384 I get a thruput of 2.1 Mbytes/s but it drops to .1 after a few test. If I change the mtu to 1500 a get a thruput of 1.3Mbytes/s but no stalls. Would it be better to change the default mtu for lo0 to a smaller value as a default?? If I use an mtu of 6000 the thruput is at 2Mbytes/s with no stalls. Hmmm is this thread starting to belong in hackers :-) Jim > From pete@silver.sms.fi Sat Jul 1 13:45:34 1995 > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 10:40:44 +0300 > From: Petri Helenius > To: Jim Leppek > Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com > Subject: tcpblast > > Jim Leppek writes: > > I was running the following: > > > > tcpblast 127.0.0.1 > > > > and got some strange results would anyone care to explain them? > > this is on a DX4/100 16Meg, X is running with three idle xterms. > > the system is a 2.0.5R, only the test is active, no build worlds > > or anything :-) > > > > (the use of my hostname, localhost, or 127.0.0.1 makes no difference) > > > > these tests were run in a row, I just "up arrowed" and changed > > the number of blocks. > > > > The thruput varies greatly, is this normal? > > Would it be possible that because of the large MTU of the loopback- > interface you are experiencing TCP deadlock? > > Pete > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 19:46:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA12463 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 19:46:11 -0700 Received: from localhost.clark.net (critter.clark.net [168.143.4.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA12457 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 19:46:07 -0700 Received: (from rjs@localhost) by localhost.clark.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA00642; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 22:48:12 GMT Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 22:22:00 +0000 From: Ron Steele Subject: Manual Install? To: question freebsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have about dispared trying to install 0622 SNAP via the menus and am wondering if there is a way to do it manually. I am trying to ftp the distribution from a local 2.0R machine. I am consistanly told the ftp has timed out (which happens in a fraction of a second) or that my enet interface (novell NE2000) can not be configured. On any given boot, either error can occur. When I f4 to get to a shell I can ifconfig the interface and ping the server with no problems. Then I find that there is no place to FTP to, as the installation disk is shown a mounted on a directory that apparently does not exist (/mnt and /mnt/usr)! Is this related to the message about the disk being read-only? I have not found a way to change this. Particulars: 2.0R host is dial-up ppp'ed to a Internet provider. The enet card it is is used only for this kind of thing and to transfer data from a note book. There is no name server running. No gateways. The only valid IP address I have is for the ppp connection to the provider, so I am forced to use a made-up one on the enet. The "new" system is an old 386 box to be used as a "firewall" at my employer's. There is no DOS partion as this thing just sits around and talks to networks all day. The new disk is an IDE with a 59MB /, 39MB swap and 135MB /usr, allocated in that order via the install menus. If anyone can help sort this out, either manually or some clues about how to make the install scripts work I would really appreciate it. It's probably just me, but EVERY time I try to do an install, going back to early 386BSD, it is like a bad trip to the dentist. I keep seeing these testimonials about how easy it is to install wonder if I am cursed. Ron From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 20:11:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA13199 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 20:11:50 -0700 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA13193 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 20:11:48 -0700 Received: from scooter-ppp-ae.NeoSoft.com (scooter-ppp-ae.NeoSoft.com [198.65.165.158]) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id WAA04689; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 22:11:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199507020311.WAA04689@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> X-Provider: NeoSoft, Inc.: Internet Service Provider (713) 968-5800 X-Sender: rberndt@popmail.neosoft.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 22:13:39 -0500 To: "Mike Perry" , questions@freebsd.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: Re: ARGGHH! Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 07:40 PM 7/1/95 -0500, Mike Perry wrote: >*sigh* My cdrom IS ide!! :'( Would it be possible to just install Freebsd >with it? If not, how painful would installing Freebsd over >the internet be with a 28.8kbps(100-and-something with compression) SLIP >line? Has anyone done it before who can help me? > > Just did the install with a 28.8 PPP setup (my provider is a mirror, but that shouldn't make any difference). I installed everything BUT GNU src and all X-stuff. Started at a little after midnight, finished before 8am [Don't know exactly when, I went to bed ;-)] You do have to do a 'set timeout 0' before calling. It had died on previous tries without that. Also, I had to 'disable lqr' and 'deny lqr' to get PPP working with my provider. (That is also in the ppp.conf.sample as a default. Don't know why it isn't set that way internally). Side note to the core-team: Thanks for FTP install! It saves all that waiting for the CD-ROM (but I am still buying it because of the extra stuff on the CD). Randy Berndt [Signature, like every damned freeway in Houston, is "under construction".] From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 20:44:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA14403 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 20:44:16 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.atinc.com [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA14391 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 20:44:13 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id XAA10847; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 23:37:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 23:37:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: ARGGHH! To: Mike Perry cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 1 Jul 1995, Mike Perry wrote: > *sigh* My cdrom IS ide!! :'( Would it be possible to just install Freebsd > with it? If not, how painful would installing Freebsd over > the internet be with a 28.8kbps(100-and-something with compression) SLIP > line? Has anyone done it before who can help me? > use the slip line. it takes while, start it before going out for the day. download the parts that you want to a dos partition, install freebsd, and then turn the dos partition into a freebsd partition. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 23:26:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA18381 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 23:26:22 -0700 Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA18375 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 23:26:20 -0700 Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA19099; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 09:26:13 +0300 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 09:26:13 +0300 Message-Id: <199507020626.JAA19099@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: tcpblast In-Reply-To: <9507020111.AA00633@borg.ess.harris.com> References: <9507020111.AA00633@borg.ess.harris.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Leppek writes: > Pete, > > You may have something there. > if I leave the mtu at 16384 I get a thruput of 2.1 Mbytes/s > but it drops to .1 after a few test. If I change the mtu > to 1500 a get a thruput of 1.3Mbytes/s but no stalls. > Sounds more like it. The mecanics of tcp vary from implementation to another but take a look at ftp://ftp.scs.leeds.ac.uk/atm/doc/tcp-deadlock.ps for a review what might be happening. The document is not the whole truth, I've seen the deadlock to appear even more easily. > Would it be better to change the default mtu for lo0 to a smaller > value as a default?? If I use an mtu of 6000 the thruput is at 2Mbytes/s > with no stalls. > Safe value half of the default window. I think window is 16384 in FreeBSD so something around 8000 should work best. Some applications do lower or raise the window to get special loading/throughput requirements filled. Raising the default window is very bad idea. (not that I'm suggesting that you were doing it) > Hmmm is this thread starting to belong in hackers :-) > I that case, keep me in, unfortunately the general volume of it too much for me to just watch the networking-related issues... > Jim > Pete