From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 01:13:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA22231 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 01:13:50 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA22219 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 01:13:44 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00629; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:13:38 +0800 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:13:36 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: EADDRINUSE - Address already in use Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What would cause a EADDRINUSE (48) error when attempting to create a connection? I've seen it happen with rlogin and rsh so far. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 07:22:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA18266 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 07:22:15 -0700 Received: from rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.60]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA18260 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 07:22:11 -0700 Received: from [130.83.177.11] (ppp11.stud.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.177.11]) by rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA31031 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:22:02 +0200 X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:22:04 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: beckmann@powermac.stud.th-darmstadt.de (Michael Beckmann) Subject: Console in 50 lines mode Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How can I switch the console to 50 lines text mode ? Is there a certain command that a user can put into his .profile ? Thanks, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 09:34:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA22488 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 09:34:07 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA22482 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 09:34:05 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA22709; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:25:00 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:24:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Don's FList drop" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-FAQ@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: who is "Don's Flist drop"? In-Reply-To: <747.810002717@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My apologies to all of you who were the unintended recipients of my more than foul message - it was a private message I mailed to this person and certainly isn't language I'd use in polite company. He forwarded it to all of you without my permission, and I'm sorry to anyone who might have been offended. It's a level of vitrol I save for special occassions and "special" people, and I'm sorry all of you were exposed to it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 10:50:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA23850 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 10:50:24 -0700 Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA23842 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 10:50:06 -0700 Received: by main.statsci.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0spJB5-000r3uC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 10:49 PDT Message-Id: To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with initial FreeBSD (2.0.5 CD) installation attempts In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:51:31 -0700." Reply-to: scott@statsci.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 10:45:48 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Scott Blachowicz wrote: > I've been experiencing a bunch of weird stuff after installing FreeBSD on my > system, so I've been reinstalling it (which is REAL easy from the CD) in > attempts to get things cleared up. Boy I hate it when I do bone-headed things like this. I finally ran across a 'fsck' failure when booting into Linux that lit the "Aha!" light in my head. Turns out that when I rearranged my partition usage, I forgot to edit the /etc/fstab in my Linux tree. That combined with typing 'shutdown -fr now' (i.e. a "fastboot") a few times led to some interesting file system corruptions when Linux mounted my FreeBSD partitions under the old assumptions as to their use. That discovered, I have a couple of curiosity questions. 1) When installing the emacs-19.28 package from the 2.0.5R CD, I get this error: Projected size of 24276116 exceeds free space in (null). Not extracting /cdrom/packages/All/emacs-19.28.tgz Is that a bug in pkg_manage or in the emacs-19.28 packaging? 2) Upon booting, I get this message right after the Boot: prompt and "text=0x..." message: BIOS basemem (637K) != RTC basemem (640K) I'm not really a PC person and was wondering if that message is something to worry about? 3) During bootup, I get this message (presumably mounting one of my 3 DOS partitions): mountmsdosfs(): root directory is not a multiple of the clustersize in length Is that something to worry about? Maybe only if I mount the paritions 'rw' (which I probably do)? 4) In doing a bunch of reinstalls & fiddling with UserConfig mode in bootup, I was wondering why 'enable' & 'disable' can't take multiple devices or globbing patterns. That way, I could disable a bunch of them in one fell swoop...'disable ah* bt0 lnc*' 5) Is there a way to make a simple boot floppy from the sysinstall process? There were a couple of times when I really wanted to boot (to an MFS root?) to do some simple repairs on the disk. So, how DOES one go about doing that? Or do I have to do a Minimal install from sysinstall, then switch over to the holographic shell in VT4 to do anything? I think I've seen that suggested as the "fixit floppy" alternative (I think I've probably missed some messages on that subject recently). 6) I notice that when booting with something like 'fbsdboot -D ...\kernel', the path to the kernel file makes it into the boot process somewhere (like the '-c changes' recording?). It looks like it uses /sbin/dset to do the recording. Is it possible to get at the path that got used for the kernel from, say, /etc/rc.local, so I could do something with it? In my Linux setup, I boot with 'loadlin' (roughly equivalent to 'fbsdboot' in this case) and I've got stuff in my boot sequence to stick a symlink to the boot kernel in /vmlinuz. I was wondering if I could (or should) do something similar for putting a symlink like this: /kernel -> /c/freebsd/kernels/mykernel.001 or some such silliness. I'm not really sure how long I'll continue to do this sort of thing, so it's not really that big a deal, but I'm just curious. Thanks muchly, Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 11:09:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA24067 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:09:25 -0700 Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA24061 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:09:22 -0700 Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01642; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:10:29 CDT Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:22:18 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:21:49 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@freeBSD.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:21:40 +600 CDT Subject: motherboard cache and faster RAM Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <31447D31A4F@bldg1.croute.com> Sender: questions-owner@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk These are 2 subjects I haven't seen mentioned much so here goes... Is there any substantial benefit to increasing a motherboard's (static RAM) cache from the oft-sold 256K to something greater (like 512K or 1MB where applicable)? Likewise faster SIMMs (< 70ns) and correspondingly at what point is it appropriate to lower the wait states in the BIOS? because inquiring minds want to know... regards, larry PS: this is cross-posted almost verbatim to another list, but there's little correspndence between the two -- apologies to all offended parties "..that's why I say: hey man, nice shot.." From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 11:37:23 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA25621 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:37:23 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA25615 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:37:21 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA16298; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:36:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:36:43 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9509031836.AA16298@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: scott@statsci.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with initial FreeBSD (2.0.5 CD) installation attempts In-Reply-To: References: Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > 2) Upon booting, I get this message right after the Boot: prompt and > "text=0x..." message: > BIOS basemem (637K) != RTC basemem (640K) This means that your BIOS reserves some of the high memory for its own use. FreeBSD tells you this because on some machines, one of the two values really is significantly wrong. It probably doesn't matter a whole lot. > 5) Is there a way to make a simple boot floppy from the sysinstall process? > There were a couple of times when I really wanted to boot (to an MFS root?) > to do some simple repairs on the disk. So, how DOES one go about doing > that? Or do I have to do a Minimal install from sysinstall, then switch > over to the holographic shell in VT4 to do anything? I think I've seen that > suggested as the "fixit floppy" alternative (I think I've probably missed > some messages on that subject recently). The Makefile that generates the install floppy is also capable of generating a fixit floppy. This really ought to be distributed if it isn't already. (Check the `floppies' directory of wherever you got your FreeBSD install floppy from.) > 6) I notice that when booting with something like 'fbsdboot -D ...\kernel', > the path to the kernel file makes it into the boot process > somewhere wollman@khavrinen(26)$ sysctl -n kern.bootfile /kernel > I was wondering if I could (or should) do something > similar for putting a symlink like this: > /kernel -> /c/freebsd/kernels/mykernel.001 No. The boot loader cannot handle symbolic links or multiple directories. However, you can easily change the name that the kernel thinks it was loaded under; read sysctl(8) for the full syntax. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 11:44:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA25818 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:44:18 -0700 Received: from picspc01.pics.com (picspc01.pics.com [192.135.189.20]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA25811 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:44:16 -0700 Received: from picsnt01 (picsnt01 [192.135.189.21]) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA24334; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:44:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:44:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199509031844.OAA24334@picspc01.pics.com> X-Sender: tpr@pics.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: tpr@pics.com (Terry Rossi) Subject: Moving from 2.0R to 2.0.5 Cc: tpr@picspc01.pics.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would love to hear from folks who have done this. My FreeBSD system is mainly used for the following things and I don't know how hard the "upgrade" process will be. The stuff I use most. Inn CERN Http Lynx PPPd IRC Client Sendmail/UUCP Perl 4 Does any of this break or get drasticly better under 2.0.5 What is the recommended process to upgrade? Is there an upgrade procedure? Thanks in Advance. Terry PS: Long detailed answers always appreciated. PSS: Excuse my choppy message, english is my first language! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Terry Rossi 609-767-0354 V Enterprise Wide Technologies 609-767-0216 F Medford, NJ tpr@ewt.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 12:53:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA27053 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:53:24 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA27047 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:53:22 -0700 Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id MAA21296; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:53:19 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa14623; 3 Sep 95 12:50 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA08752; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:27:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:27:44 -0700 From: Mark Diekhans Message-Id: <199509031927.MAA08752@Grizzly.COM> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: multiport serial card... Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Any recommendations on a 4 port multi-port serial card for FreeBSD? I know the AST and BOCA are supported, but don't know anything about either of them. Any recommendations on a mail-order place for said cards? Many thanks in advance, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 14:00:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA00358 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:00:52 -0700 Received: from penzance.econ.yale.edu (penzance.econ.yale.edu [130.132.32.100]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA00338 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:00:49 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 17:00:43 -0400 (EDT) From: -Vince- To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: compiling gnu finger Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Has anyone out there successfully compiled gnu finger 1.37 under FreeBSD? If anyone did, can you tell me what did you need to do to get it to compile? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95 SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free! Chabot Observatory & Science Center From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 14:10:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA01280 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:10:56 -0700 Received: from phoenix.volant.org (volant.scruznet.com [205.179.79.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA01271 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:10:46 -0700 From: patl@asimov.volant.org Received: from asimov.volant.org (asimov.volant.org [205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA03232 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:09:52 -0700 Received: by asimov.volant.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04502; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:15:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:15:16 -0700 Message-Id: <9509032115.AA04502@asimov.volant.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can't ping myself on PPP address Reply-To: lashley@netcom.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've just set up FreeBSD 2.0.5 with a PPP link to an ISP. When I attempt to ping my machine at its PPP address, I get no response. Is this expected of PPP, or do I probably have something wrong in my configuration? I have set up a subnet so that other local hosts find the gateway on its ethernet port, but currently the resolver is reporting the PPP address as the primary address from the gateway itself. This is causing some network apps to fail. (E.g., I can connect Netscape to my http daemon if I use http://localhost/, but not if I use the real hostname.) Thanks, -Pat From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 15:34:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA03097 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 15:34:24 -0700 Received: from warp10.smartlink.net (smartlink.net [204.118.4.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA03078 ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 15:34:21 -0700 Received: by warp10.smartlink.net(8.6.12/SMARTLINK-1.0) with id PAA01308 for on Sun, 3 Sep 1995 15:35:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 15:35:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph McDonald To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm having a weird routing problem. If I log into the FreeBSD machine via modem->termserver->FBSD and the modem drops carrier in the middle of the session, the route to my computer gets changed to the ethernet! Here is the relavent line from "netstat -nr" after dropping carrier 204.118.4.11 link#2 UHLW 1 19 which is not correct. The IP of the FBSD machine is 204.118.4.12 and the IP's for the termservers are: 204.118.4.6 and 204.118.4.8, I never know which one I'm going to log into at any one time. I am running routed -q on the BSD machine. Does anyone have any ideas what could be going on and how to prevent this? Thanks, -joe P.S. this is 2.0.5-RELEASE. The termservers are portmasters. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 19:04:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA09748 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:04:05 -0700 Received: from batch1.csd.uwm.edu (batch1.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.70.230]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA09741 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:04:02 -0700 Received: from alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (pklein@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.169.2]) by batch1.csd.uwm.edu (8.6.10/8.6.8) with ESMTP id VAA04975 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 21:04:00 -0500 Received: (pklein@localhost) by alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (8.6.10/8.6.8) id VAA03568 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 21:03:59 -0500 From: Paul J Klein Message-Id: <199509040203.VAA03568@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: XDM Failure To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 21:03:59 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1340 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Please, I need HELP!!!! I began experimenting a little with the network configuration on my FreeBSD 2.0.5 installation, and ever since, when I reboot, xdm fails to run properly (or more appropriately, not at all). if I try 'startx' or 'X', it says the server is running already on the console. The xdm error file says the following: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors file: TRANS(SocketCreateListener): failed to bind listener TRANS(SocketINETCreateListener): TRANS(SocketCreateListener) () failed TRANS(MakeALLCOTSServerListeners) failed to craete listener for tcp I beleive I have only been modifying the /etc/sysconfig and /etc/networks files, but I thought I returned them to normal since I neglected to make a backup..... Can anyone help? Also, is there any documentation available on setting up FreeBSD for network ability? Thanks, Paul -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul J. Klein Office: EMS E280 Research Assistant, Assistant Lab Manager Phone: 414-229-3908 Signal Propagation Research Laboratory FAX: 414-229-2978 University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee email: pklein@csd.uwm.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 19:45:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA10936 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:45:27 -0700 Received: from txcc.net ([205.218.183.157]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA10930 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:45:24 -0700 Received: from (port5.txcc.net [205.218.183.135]) by txcc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA01018 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 21:45:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199509040245.VAA01018@txcc.net> X-Sender: cl@txcc.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 21:47:16 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: same.as.POP.Account.above@txcc.net (what ever you want) Subject: join X-Mailer: Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk join From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 20:31:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA12545 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:31:39 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA12539 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:31:36 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id WAA02729; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:23:06 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA00188; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:30:50 GMT Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:30:50 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: Serge Babkin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DigiBoard Driver + iijppp BUG! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Serge It's been a while. I got a panic message while using iijppp for the first in auto mode with a digiboard port rather than sio 0. When I ppp -auto ondemand, everything is ok, but as soon as I ping my.is.provider, my system freaks out. I am now running a 2.0.5 system. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address: = 0x0 fault code = Supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0x0 code segment = base 0x0, limmit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 current process = 146 (ppp) interrupt mask = panic page fault Syncing disks... 11 11 8 2 done. dumping to dev 1, offset 0 dump device bad Automatic reboot in 15 seconds ..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 20:32:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA12595 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:32:40 -0700 Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA12589 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:32:38 -0700 Received: by main.statsci.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0spSEI-000r3uC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 20:29 PDT Message-Id: To: "Garrett A. Wollman" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with initial FreeBSD (2.0.5 CD) installation attempts In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Sep 1995 14:36:43 -0400." <9509031836.AA16298@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 20:25:39 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Garrett A. Wollman wrote: > > BIOS basemem (637K) != RTC basemem (640K) > > This means that your BIOS reserves some of the high memory for its own > use. FreeBSD tells you this because on some machines, one of the two > values really is significantly wrong. It probably doesn't matter a > whole lot. Hmmm...I could swear that there have been times when I don't get that message. Shouldn't I get it all the time? Oh well...like you say, I imagine it doesn't matter a whole lot. > The Makefile that generates the install floppy is also capable of > generating a fixit floppy. This really ought to be distributed if it > isn't already. (Check the `floppies' directory of wherever you got > your FreeBSD install floppy from.) Geez...forgot about that floppies directory...boot.flp & root.flp are right there. > > I was wondering if I could (or should) do something > > similar for putting a symlink like this: > > > /kernel -> /c/freebsd/kernels/mykernel.001 > > No. The boot loader cannot handle symbolic links or multiple > directories. However, you can easily change the name that the kernel > thinks it was loaded under; read sysctl(8) for the full syntax. I was thinking more about after the boot process - if I were to consistently use 'fbsdboot -D' to boot off of a DOS file, then the boot loader shouldn't care what I've got in /kernel. I'll take a look at sysctl(8) - thanx. Thanks, Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 20:46:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA13393 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:46:31 -0700 Received: from planete.planete.qc.ca (rp-planete.pubnix.net [199.202.137.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA13383 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:46:25 -0700 Received: from port001.planete.qc.ca (port001.planete.qc.ca [205.237.239.11]) by planete.planete.qc.ca (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA01830; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:46:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:46:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199509040346.XAA01830@planete.planete.qc.ca> X-Sender: carl@planete.qc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: carl@planete.qc.ca (Carl Benoit) Subject: Are we "safe" with dump(8) ? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there !! Congratulations for your great work !! We're presently using freebsd 2.0.5R and everything is working great !! We're looking to use the dump/restore utilities as the backup solution for our web server and we are wondering if there is any restrictions/ known bugs that we should know of. We're presently backing up our server with cpio and I don't feel very "safe" with this situation :-\ I've been using dump/ufsdump on SUNOS/SOLARIS for a while and had no problem with them... Any comment/suggestions would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time, Carl Benoit Sysadm carl@planete.qc.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 3 23:37:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA18465 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:37:07 -0700 Received: from saber.cent.com (c2.ptw.com [204.178.60.34]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA18455 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:36:50 -0700 Received: (from duane@localhost) by saber.cent.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA01627; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:37:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:37:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Duane R. Ellison" X-Sender: duane@saber.cent.com To: Questions - FreeBSD cc: andrew@werple.mira.net.au Subject: Cyclades CYCLOM-16Ye/RJ45 RISC Based Multi IO Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, We are considering purchasing a Cyclades 16 port multi I/O board (CYCLOM-16Ye/RJ45) and I would like to know if anyone is currently using (or previously used) one of these products. The main reason I am writing this is that I noticed in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT it says that the drivers are "ALPHA QUAILITY". Since we are planning on running a ISP off this hardware I want to see if the drivers at least work, before we drop the money on the card. Thanks! --- Duane ____________________________________________________________________________ Duane Ellison duane@gargamel.ptw.com Edwards, California http://gargamel.ptw.com/~duane From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 00:29:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA19750 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 00:29:48 -0700 Received: from easynet.com ([199.2.26.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA19744 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 00:29:47 -0700 Received: from easy4.easynet.com by easynet.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0spVyX-000rgpC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 00:29 WET DST Received: (from brian@localhost) by easy4.easynet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA27934; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 00:31:51 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199509040731.AAA27934@easy4.easynet.com> Subject: Re: Cyclades CYCLOM-16Ye/RJ45 RISC Based Multi IO To: duane@gargamel.ptw.com (Duane R. Ellison) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 00:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, andrew@werple.mira.net.au In-Reply-To: from "Duane R. Ellison" at Sep 3, 95 11:37:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1207 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > We are considering purchasing a Cyclades 16 port multi I/O board > (CYCLOM-16Ye/RJ45) and I would like to know if anyone is currently using > (or previously used) one of these products. The main reason I am writing > this is that I noticed in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT it says that > the drivers are "ALPHA QUAILITY". Since we are planning on running a ISP > off this hardware I want to see if the drivers at least work, before we > drop the money on the card. > > Thanks! I and a number of others (including several ISPs) have been using Cyclades cards with FreeBSD without any troubles. However, we all all using the driver I wrote, instead of the one supplied with FreeBSD. Reports from me and others including Cyclades Corporations conclude that the supplied driver doesn't work well, while the same people have good success with my driver. The FreeBSD people are not interested in including my driver with their distribution so I and others maintain it from afar. You can ftp it from ftp://ftp.mediacity.com/pub.brian/cyb2.0fb.shar.gz It is a production grade driver, and has been used heavily for many months by many people. Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 00:41:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA20196 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 00:41:37 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA20190 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 00:41:36 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA17783; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 00:37:04 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509040737.AAA17783@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Cyclades CYCLOM-16Ye/RJ45 RISC Based Multi IO To: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 00:37:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: duane@gargamel.ptw.com, questions@freebsd.org, andrew@werple.mira.net.au In-Reply-To: <199509040731.AAA27934@easy4.easynet.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at Sep 4, 95 00:31:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 549 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > The FreeBSD people are not interested in including my driver with their > distribution so I and others maintain it from afar. This is silly; are you sure on the reasoning here? > You can ftp it from > > ftp://ftp.mediacity.com/pub.brian/cyb2.0fb.shar.gz > > It is a production grade driver, and has been used heavily for > many months by many people. ...left in, in case it was no access or something. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 02:25:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id CAA24344 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 02:25:38 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA24273 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 02:24:03 -0700 Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.144.4]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA16855; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 11:18:06 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA15518; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 11:17:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 11:17:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199509040917.LAA15518@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> To: tianlin@iguana.ruralnet.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP: how to delete an account In-Reply-To: <199509022153.PAA00263@localhost> References: <199509022153.PAA00263@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Tianlin WANG writes: >There is a command adduser to add an account. Is there >a similar command to delete an account? Yes, removeuser. Guy Helmer wrote it. -- Wolfram Schneider wosch From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 02:29:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id CAA24583 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 02:29:56 -0700 Received: from www.htl-tex.ac.at (www.htl-tex.ac.at [192.189.51.199]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA24577 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 02:29:52 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.htl-tex.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA00366 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 12:11:04 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 12:11:04 GMT From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199509041211.MAA00366@www.htl-tex.ac.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: network-problem We have a little problem with our FreeBSD installation: When we try to get data via FTP/HTTPD from our server to our local network, we can get appr. 1K, then the data is "stuck". (netstat tells me, that there are 67000 bytes not acknowledged from remote system!) When we try to get data via FTP/HTTPD from our server to any other network, voila - NO PROBLEM. We have tried several hours fixing this problem, we came to no solution. PLEASE help us. RPG & BROWN (root@www.htl-tex.ac.at) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 03:12:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA26512 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 03:12:58 -0700 Received: from www.htl-tex.ac.at (www.htl-tex.ac.at [192.189.51.199]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA26506 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 03:12:53 -0700 Received: (from admin@localhost) by www.htl-tex.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA00595 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 12:54:06 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 12:54:06 GMT From: Administrator Message-Id: <199509041254.MAA00595@www.htl-tex.ac.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: network-problem We have a little problem with our FreeBSD installation: When we try to get data via FTP/HTTPD from our server to our local network, we can get appr. 1K, then the data is "stuck". (netstat tells me, that there are 67000 bytes not acknowledged from remote system!) When we try to get data via FTP/HTTPD from our server to any other network, voila - NO PROBLEM. We have tried several hours fixing this problem, we came to no solution. PLEASE help us. RPG & BROWN (root@www.htl-tex.ac.at) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 04:24:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA29663 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 04:24:12 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA29649 ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 04:23:57 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id NAA00138; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 13:22:07 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id NAA14191; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 13:22:07 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA22884; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 11:36:57 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199509040936.LAA22884@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: your mail To: joe@smartlink.net (Joseph McDonald) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 11:36:56 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Joseph McDonald" at Sep 3, 95 03:35:35 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 851 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Joseph McDonald wrote: > > I'm having a weird routing problem. If I log into the FreeBSD machine > via modem->termserver->FBSD and the modem drops carrier in the middle of > the session, the route to my computer gets changed to the ethernet! Your netmask for the ethernet interface does include the IP address of the SLIP peer. As long as the SLIP interface is up & running, its own host route gets precedence over the ethernet network route. However, if the modem drops carrier, the specific host route (this is the _remote_ IP address of the SLIP i/f) disappears, hence all further packets for this address default to the ethernet route, and the IP layers attempt to ARP for it on the ethernet. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 04:59:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA01100 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 04:59:17 -0700 Received: from Relay1.Austria.EU.net (relay1.Austria.EU.net [192.92.138.47]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA01093 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 04:59:11 -0700 From: marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at Received: from aut.alcatel.at (dnisun.aut.alcatel.at) by Relay1.Austria.EU.net with SMTP id AA01532 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Sep 1995 13:58:50 +0200 Received: from atuhc16 by aut.alcatel.at (4.1/SMI-4.1/AAA-1.29/main) id AA09143; Mon, 4 Sep 95 13:58:53 +0200 Message-Id: <9509041158.AA09143@atuhc16.aut.alcatel.at> Received: by atuhc16 (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA09259; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 13:58:43 +0200 Subject: Re: HELP: does someone use HP Laserjet IV? To: tianlin@iguana.ruralnet.net (Tianlin Wang) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 95 13:58:43 METDST Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509030310.VAA02535@localhost.animal.uiuc.edu>; from "Tianlin Wang" at Sep 2, 95 9:10 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Recently I joined a company who has a HP Laserjet 4. I use dvilj4 to > produce foo.lj. However, some characters are missing in the printout. > Does someone have the same experience? I badly need help. > Any hints would be appreciated. > I have dvi2xx-0.51a9. > If someone can tell me he/she has no problem with dvilj4 and HP laserjet 4, > I would appreciate it, too. We have LaserJet 4's here, but they're equipped with PostScript support, so we, naturally, use that. We use dvips to produce PostScript from .dvi files. They work great. At home I have a LaserJet 2 compatible box and use GhostScript to produce PCL3 bitmaps which are then uploaded to printer. I use dvips to produce GhostScript from .dvi, as GhostScript is asymptotically compatible with Level 2 PostScript. This also works great, albeit much slower than if PostScript interpreter were in the printer itself. It is, however, no slower than dvi2lj approach, as the datasize which is uploaded is virtually the same (with restriction that dvi2lj might upload fonts and then use them, and be slightly faster, but more error prone.) The advantages of GhostScript use is that .dvi files, with the help of dvips, can now issue \special's which include .EPS graphics into the document. I could mail you my printcap entries and filter scripts should you be intersted in trying this. /Alby > Thanks in advance > Tianlin Wang From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 05:58:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA02711 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 05:58:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA02704 ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 05:58:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199509041258.FAA02704@freefall.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.FreeBSD.org: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Charlie Root cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Sep 95 12:11:04 GMT." <199509041211.MAA00366@www.htl-tex.ac.at> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 05:58:53 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Subject: network-problem > >We have a little problem with our FreeBSD installation: > > > When we try to get data via FTP/HTTPD from our server to our local > network, we can get appr. 1K, then the data is "stuck". > (netstat tells me, that there are 67000 bytes not acknowledged from > remote system!) > > When we try to get data via FTP/HTTPD from our server to any other > network, voila - NO PROBLEM. > >We have tried several hours fixing this problem, we came to no solution. > > > PLEASE help us. > > > RPG & BROWN (root@www.htl-tex.ac.at) Turn off the RFC 1323 and 1644 TCP extensions. It sounds like your SLIP or PPP line can't handle them (you're provider's terminal server is broken). From /etc/netstart: # # XXX This is known to cause an error if /usr is nfs mounted since it # will not be avaliable until after the network is up :-(. Once the # relocation of sysctl to /sbin is done that problem will go away. # if [ -n "$tcp_extensions" -a "x$tcp_extensions" = "xNO" ] ; then sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0 sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0 fi -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 06:57:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA04894 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 06:57:15 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04876 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 06:57:11 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id IAA00146; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 08:48:55 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA00706; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:56:02 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:56:02 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: Carl Benoit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are we "safe" with dump(8) ? In-Reply-To: <199509040346.XAA01830@planete.planete.qc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 3 Sep 1995, Carl Benoit wrote: > Hi there !! > > Congratulations for your great work !! > > We're presently using freebsd 2.0.5R and everything is working > great !! > > We're looking to use the dump/restore utilities as the backup solution > for our web server and we are wondering if there is any restrictions/ > known bugs that we should know of. We're presently backing up our > server with cpio and I don't feel very "safe" with this situation :-\ > > I've been using dump/ufsdump on SUNOS/SOLARIS for a while and had no > problem with them... > > Any comment/suggestions would be very appreciated. > I've been using dump/restore for some time and I have not experienced any problems. I had restore a few files after my upgrade to 2.0.5 and all went well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 07:33:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA07144 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 07:33:44 -0700 Received: from wdl1.wdl.loral.com (wdl1.wdl.loral.com [137.249.32.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA07136 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 07:33:40 -0700 Received: from miles.sso.loral.com (miles.wdl.loral.com) by wdl1.wdl.loral.com (5.x/WDL-2.4-1.0) id AA19479; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 07:33:07 -0700 Received: by miles.sso.loral.com (4.1/SSO-SUN-2.04) id AA01278; Mon, 4 Sep 95 10:33:07 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 10:33:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Toren X-Sender: rpt@miles To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IP domainname ?? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Simple... Where is the IP (not NIS) domainname taken from during the boot? sysctl says my "kern.domainname = ". I am not using NIS. ==================================================== Rip Toren | The bad news is that C++ is not an object-oriented | rpt@miles.sso.loral.com | programming language. .... The good news is that | | C++ supports object-oriented programming. | | C++ Programming & Fundamental Concepts | | by Anderson & Heinze | ==================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 07:43:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA07878 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 07:43:04 -0700 Received: from strider.ibenet.it ([194.179.130.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA07860 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 07:42:41 -0700 Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA13474 for Questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 16:46:06 +0200 From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199509041446.QAA13474@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: /usr/src/bin ? To: Questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions List) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 16:46:06 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 360 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello. Quick questions: 1) Why is /usr/src/bin distribution missing from 2.0.5R distrib.? 2) Where can I get it (if I can at all)? Thanks, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 08:00:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA09126 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 08:00:38 -0700 Received: from ix5.ix.netcom.com (ix5.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09120 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 08:00:36 -0700 Received: from e.knight@ix.netcom.com by ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id HAA08100; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 07:57:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 07:57:15 -0700 Reply-To: e.knight@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.2 on FreeBSD From: Ted To: Subject: irc x client Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me where I can find an irc X client Ted Knight From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:27:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA01130 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:27:37 -0700 Received: from homer.prahran.swin.edu.au (homer.prahran.swin.edu.au [136.186.16.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA01089 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:27:21 -0700 Received: from [] ([136.186.74.160]) by homer.prahran.swin.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA00291 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:07:59 GMT Message-Id: <199509052307.XAA00291@homer.prahran.swin.edu.au> Comments: Authenticated sender is <303417@gpo.swin.edu.au> From: "Aaron Elliott (CS&IT)" <303417@lucy.swin.edu.au> Organization: Swinburne TAFE To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:00:43 +10 Subject: Time stuffed up? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello one and all! Anywhere my system references time, it comes up with all the stuff you can see down below.. I cant see a zic(8) entry or do I understand "link /etc/localtime directly 1995!" How do i fix it? Thanks a million! Connected to homer.prahran.swin.edu.au. 220 homer.prahran.swin.edu.au FTP server (Version wu-2.4(2) Tue Sep 5 21:22:57 S ee zic(8) or link /etc/localtime directly 1995) ready. Aaron Elliott, CNA. [VK3AJQ] Swinburne University of Technology, Prahran Campus. Melbourne Australia. InterNet: aarone@homer.prahran.swin.edu.au. FidoNet: aaron@3:632/370.fidonet.org. GSM Mobile: +61 41 930 2361 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:29:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA01633 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:29:34 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA01595 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:29:30 -0700 Received: from werple.mira.net.au (werple.mira.net.au [203.9.190.18]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA15509 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:59:10 -0700 Received: (from redflex@localhost) by werple.mira.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA13114 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:58:35 +1000 From: Redflex Systems Message-Id: <199509050058.KAA13114@werple.mira.net.au> Subject: Re slip To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:58:34 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 148 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do you configure slip to attach to 4 interfaces over the serial ports. Also is there a network administrators quide for FreeBsd 2.0 or higher. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:29:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA01749 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:29:53 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA01709 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:29:45 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA15493 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:51:01 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id TAA18110; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 19:42:52 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA00153; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 20:24:19 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 20:24:18 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Hylafax Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does any one know of or has anyone developed an interface for sending fax memos via hylafax. I'm looking for something a little more interactive and complete than the faxmail program that comes with hylafax. If not, I guess I'm just going to have to do something myself. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:30:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA01987 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:30:28 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA01953 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:30:21 -0700 Received: from saber.cent.com (ca.ptw.com [204.178.60.42]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA14963 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 15:20:52 -0700 Received: (from duane@localhost) by saber.cent.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00406; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 15:20:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 15:20:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Duane R. Ellison" X-Sender: duane@saber.cent.com To: Questions - FreeBSD Subject: User names 8 char limit Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think I have seen this question before but I either did not save the reply or deleted it. So the question is can you use login names longer than 8 characters? For each user I would like to set up two login names (ex duane and duane-ppp). If there is a way to do this I would appreciate the help. Thanks... --- Duane ____________________________________________________________________________ Duane Ellison duane@gargamel.ptw.com Edwards, California http://gargamel.ptw.com/~duane From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:30:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA02040 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:30:42 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA01985 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:30:27 -0700 Received: from TRUTH.WOFFORD.EDU (truth.wofford.edu [199.190.174.250]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA14902 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 15:02:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 18:01:10 -0400 (EDT) From: DAN WELCH To: questions@FreeBSD.org CC: WELCHDW@wofford.edu Message-Id: <950904180110.4020037b@wofford.edu> Subject: rc0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying bring up a RISCom/8 board under FreeBSD 2.0.5 I placed a single device stmt for rc0 into my kernel config file (copied from LINT) along with the multiport option statement. The compile went fine and boot up shows rc0 found with 8 channels. I used MAKEDEV to create ttym0-ttym7 and placed lines into /etc/ttys that are identical to those for ttyd0 except for ttyd?-ttym? Have I missed something? My system freezes up (requires cold boot) when I attach a vt100. My vt100 manual shows a pinout exactly like that of the RISCom (except that CTS is missing on pin 5 of the vt100 ??) so I inserted a null modem. That's when the system freezes. I'm down to playing with wires. It'd be nice to be sure that I haven't merely forgotten some software move. I noted that ps -ax shows 'I' status on the two ports (of 8) that I turned "on" in /etc/ttys whereas the other inactive ports (ttyd0 and ttyd1) that work fine show 'Is' as their state. Suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:30:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA02161 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:30:57 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA02141 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:30:55 -0700 Received: from rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.60]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA14852 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 14:48:28 -0700 Received: from [130.83.177.9] (ppp09.stud.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.177.9]) by rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id XAA13188 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:46:11 +0200 X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:46:13 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: beckmann@powermac.stud.th-darmstadt.de (Michael Beckmann) Subject: Re: HELP: how to delete an account Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:17 Uhr 4.9.1995, Wolfram Schneider wrote: >Tianlin WANG writes: >>There is a command adduser to add an account. Is there >>a similar command to delete an account? > >Yes, removeuser. Guy Helmer wrote it. That's nice, but where IS that program ? {2} find / -name "*user" /usr/sbin/adduser /usr/src/usr.sbin/adduser /var/log/adduser From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:32:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA02711 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:32:50 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA02654 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:32:42 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA14081 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 11:37:43 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ac10045; 4 Sep 95 19:33 +0100 Received: from panorama.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa05213; 4 Sep 95 19:30 +0100 Received: from bastet.panorama.COM by panorama.demon.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29535; Mon, 4 Sep 95 18:18:08 BST Received: by bastet.panorama.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23301; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 18:18:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 18:18:48 +0000 From: Ian Edwards Message-Id: <9509041718.AA23301@bastet.panorama.COM> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Linux emulation under FreeBSD X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1440 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Sender: jkh@time.cdrom.com > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: ian@panorama.COM > Subject: Re: Can I run Linux executables on FreeBSD 2.0.5 ? > > ian@panorama.com ( Ian Edwards ) wrote: > >I have a database program which was built with Linux (kernel 1.2.1) > >and I want to run it on PC hardware (arriving soon). Having read about > >FreeBSD and Linux I would prefer to run it on FreeBSD which I thought > >could run Linux and SCO binaries. However I have just got the FreeBSD CD > >and the documentation on 'linux-emu' says it is not a generic emulator, > >so will the database run on FreeBSD 2.0.5 ? > .... We also have more advanced emulation currently in BETA testing. ... > > -- > Jordan Thanks for the mail. I have loaded the 'linux-emu' files from /xperimnt on the 2.0.5 CDROM and rebuilt the kernel. I cannot do any testing of the database because I need a license, however the program that generates the information for the license runs but produces the following message :- jack# ./texlicinfo ./texlicinfo: using incompatible library '/lib/libc.so.4' Desire minor version >= 6 and found 5 Should I continue with 'linux-emu' or switch to the "more advanced emulation" mentioned in the email reply ? (Where would I get the new emulator from ?) On an unrelated point, is there a program which will create a floppy disc that is bootable ? Thanks for the help, Ian. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:36:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA03216 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:36:16 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03177 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:36:00 -0700 Received: from orca.ens.cetys.mx ([158.122.3.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA13534 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:22:19 -0700 Received: (from lecuanda@localhost) by orca.ens.cetys.mx (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA02086; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 01:22:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 01:22:53 -0800 (PST) From: Hector Lecuanda Ontiveros To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: PPP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying almost for a month now to set up a PPP server for dialup services, and i have 2 problems 1. Every time i try to run 'pppd' i get the message; SORRY , PPP is not availible on this system. 2. After utter failure to run pppd i resorted to use ppp as a server and it responds correctly to incoming calls, but does not route packets to the Internet, i can only see my host when i'm remote on a ppp link. I followed every instruction on the handbook, and i'm puzzled, do i have to recompile the kernel to provide routing services? I'm using mgetty to spawn pppd. I'd apreciate any help i can get. and sorry if i mispelled anything, English is my second languaje... =)! Hector Lecuanda Ontiveros Internet Academico Cetys Universidad, Campus Ensenada. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:37:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA03420 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:37:01 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03406 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:36:57 -0700 Received: from monge.brunel.ac.uk (monge.brunel.ac.uk [134.83.72.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA13458 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 08:45:55 -0700 Received: from mishmash.brunel.ac.uk by monge.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <09741-0@monge.brunel.ac.uk>; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 16:42:56 +0100 From: Nik Clayton Message-Id: <16442.9509041542@mishmash.brunel.ac.uk> Subject: netatalk - Appletalk for Unix To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 16:42:51 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 814 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do, Is anyone successfully using netatalk with FreeBSD 2.0.5? The sources I've seen for 1.3.1 suggest SunOS 4.1+ Sparc kernel must have VDDRV option installed Ultrix 4.[1-3] 3100,5000 but I don't know if 2.0.5 is sufficiently similar to SunOS to get this to work. I'm currently using CAP (Columbia Appletalk Package) v. 60 patchlevel 195, which is working, but with some annoying problems. Folks on my local 'net here (which consists of Suns) have recommended netatalk. Cheers, N =-[Opinion, n: See the above text for an example]=-=[Kibo #: e]-[RYRYRY]=-= =-[The Silly Sod Society: To perfect and to swerve]=-[beable]-=[TP U BG]=-= Thud. Thud. Thud. Splat. -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 22:41:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA03973 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:41:58 -0700 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu (holodeck.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03839 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:40:32 -0700 From: sdfgdfs@vt.edu Received: from [128.173.88.157] by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.12/16.2) id LAA20948; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 11:51:12 -0400 X-NUPop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 11:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: sdfgdfs@vt.edu Message-Id: <41949.sdfgdfs@mail.vt.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: ps-dj converter Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had a question earlier about printing with the deskjet 500 printer. I do have the printer working, I was just wondering if I could get postscript to be printed to the thing. I was informed about a program called ps-dj500 or something of the sort. I not been able to find it. I looked in ghostscript and it was not there. I think that this program is what I need. Changing postscript into deskjet readable format. Anyone know where to get it? Also, I am still trying to set up my ppp acount to work with a script. Could someone please email or post their config to this group. Much thanks, Jay Ryan --Virginia Tech Student From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 4 23:12:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA07025 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:12:47 -0700 Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA07014 ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:12:46 -0700 From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199509050612.XAA07014@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ps-dj converter To: sdfgdfs@vt.edu Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <41949.sdfgdfs@mail.vt.edu> from "sdfgdfs@vt.edu" at Sep 4, 95 11:38:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2201 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Here is message I grabbed off of usenet. It DOES work!! May need tweaking here or there but...:) Randall Hopper | Picker International Senior Software Engineer | CT Visualization and Connectivity rhh@ct.picker.com | FAX: (216) 473-7098 *** WINDOWS from the folks who brought you EDLIN *** ------------------------------/etc/printcap----------------------------------- # @(#)printcap 5.3 (Berkeley) 6/30/90 #lp|local line printer:\ # :lp=/dev/lp:sd=/usr/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: lp|LaserJet 4P Printer (Raw):\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/usr/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :mx#0:ff=\033E\033&k2G:fo:sh:tr=\033E: text|LJ4P w/ Unix2Dos Text Preprocess:\ :lp=/dev/null:sd=/usr/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :of=/usr/local/bin/textlj:\ :mx#0:sf:sh: ps|LJ4P w/ Ghostscript PS->PCL Preprocess:\ :lp=/dev/null:sd=/usr/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :of=/usr/local/bin/gslj:\ :mx#0:sf:sh: #text|LJ4P w/ Unix2Dos Text Preprocess:\ # :lp=/dev/null:\ # :if=/usr/rhh/bin/unix2dos:\ # :rm=localhost:\ # :rp=lp: #ps|LJ4P w/ Ghostscript PS->PCL Preprocess:\ # :lp=/dev/null:\ # :if=/usr/local/bin/gslj:\ # :rm=localhost:\ # :rp=lp: ------------------------------/usr/local/bin/textlj---------------------------- #!/bin/sh PRINTER=lp PATH=/usr/bin:$PATH export PRINTER PATH unix2dos | lpr -h --------------------------/usr/local/bin/gslj-------------------------------- #!/bin/sh TMPDIR=/usr/tmp PRINTER=lp GSLIB=/usr/local/lib/ghostscript/fonts PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH export TMPDIR PRINTER GSLIB PATH #exec gs -q -sDEVICE=laserjet -r300 -dNOPAUSE -- gslp.ps $* #exec gs -sDEVICE=ljet4 -dNOPAUSE gslp.ps - > /usr/rhh/out 2>&1 exec gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=\|lpr gslp.ps - -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | FreeBSD support and service gclarkii@FreeBSD.ORG | mail info@gbdata.com for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp.FreeBSD.ORG in ~pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/share/FAQ/Text/FreeBSD.FAQ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 03:37:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA19025 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 03:37:49 -0700 Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA18903 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 03:29:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA01060 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:19:03 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199509051019.MAA01060@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Why "finger" takes so long ? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:19:03 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1092 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk One of our systems has some 600+ account on it. "finger" takes some 20 seconds to run, and most of the time is spent waiting for something, as the output of "ps -augl" shows: 7834 11468 7891 2 -6 0 344 640 biowai D p5 0:01.42 finger cssip Note that re-running the same command does not give any performance improvement. At the moment, the system is mostly idle (two active users), has 16M RAM, no X active, and top shows the following: Memory: 5508K Active, 680K Inact, 2704K Wired, 1468K Cache, 3808K Free Swap: 66M Total, 62M Free, 6% Inuse Any ideas on why it takes so long ? This is something I always experienced on this system, since the feb.95 snapshot. Thanks Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 05:02:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA20333 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 05:02:59 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA20325 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 05:02:45 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA08034 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:05:36 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:07:01 +0300 To: Luigi Rizzo , questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: Why "finger" takes so long ? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 12:19 5/9/95, Luigi Rizzo wrote: >One of our systems has some 600+ account on it. "finger" takes some 20 >seconds to run, Same problem here 2:14pm@itu:~% time finger kallio Login: kallio Name: Seppo Kallio Directory: /export/lk/kallio Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh On since Tue Sep 5 14:12 (EET DST) on ttyp0 from zaphod.maccc.jyu No Mail. 0.249u 1.666s 0:32.25 5.8% 21+439k 1926+14io 0pf+0w 2:15pm@itu:~% I have 1776 accounts but idle node, not many users yet. Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 07:29:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA29595 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:29:24 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA29587 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:29:23 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA18552; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:29:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:29:17 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9509051429.AA18552@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Aaron Elliott (CS&IT)" <303417@lucy.swin.edu.au> Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Time stuffed up? In-Reply-To: <199509052307.XAA00291@homer.prahran.swin.edu.au> References: <199509052307.XAA00291@homer.prahran.swin.edu.au> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Hello one and all! > Anywhere my system references time, it comes up with all the stuff > you can see down below.. I cant see a zic(8) entry or do I > understand "link /etc/localtime directly 1995!" It means that you don't have your timezone set up correctly. Use tzsetup(8). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 07:33:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA29938 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:33:25 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA29932 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:33:23 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA18379; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:33:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:33:18 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9509051433.AA18379@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Richard Toren Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IP domainname ?? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Simple... > Where is the IP (not NIS) domainname taken from during the boot? > sysctl says my "kern.domainname = ". That is the YP domain name. The Internet domain name is the part of your hostname after the first dot. It may also be listed in /etc/resolv.conf, but be aware that the use of the `domain' directive there is deprecated in favor of `searchlist'. If your hostname is not fully-qualified, then something has made an error in setting up your machine. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 07:48:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA01418 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:48:15 -0700 Received: from gate.microware.com ([198.17.151.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA01406 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:48:10 -0700 Received: by gate.microware.com; id AA15970; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:46:27 CDT Received: from mcrware.microware.com(192.52.109.32) by gate.microware via smap (g3.0.1) id xma015965; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:46:00 -0500 Received: from snake (snake.microware.com) by mcrware.microware.com with SMTP id AA17455 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:45:47 -0500 From: John Lengeling Received: by snake id ; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:45:46 CDT Message-Id: <9509051445.AA15390@snake> Subject: Looking for DigiBoard 8E driver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:45:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 176 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a FreeBSD driver for a Digiboard 8E multi-port serial card? I see some has one for Linux, would it be hard to port to FreeBSD? Thanks, johnL@microware.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 08:41:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA04574 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:41:38 -0700 Received: from FSL.ORST.EDU (FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA04568 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:41:37 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA01838; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:41:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:41:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: questions Subject: Samba Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I seem to be unable to get Samba to see WFW/Windows95 clients. The Microsoft clients/network does not have a ip/router, so I get messages that my name can't be located first off. Can I create my own ethers file and assign ip addresses to the WFW/Windows clients, or is a router required? Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 08:48:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA04694 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:48:39 -0700 Received: from FSL.ORST.EDU (FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA04688 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:48:38 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA01931; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:48:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:48:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: make world Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How long is a make world supposed to take? I finally aborted my attempt yesterday after 4 days of compiling. I had only 8 megs of ram on a 386DX-40, but my replacement is going to be a 486DX-33 with 16 megs of ram. Could I restart the process where it left off, or do I have to start over? It took over an hour to do the cleaning of /usr/obj when it was already empty. Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 09:02:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA04967 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:02:58 -0700 Received: from picspc01.pics.com (picspc01.pics.com [192.135.189.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA04961 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:02:56 -0700 Received: from picsnt01 (picsdg01 [192.135.189.10]) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA08106 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:03:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:03:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199509051603.MAA08106@picspc01.pics.com> X-Sender: tpr@pics.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: tpr@pics.com (Terry Rossi) Subject: Re: PPP Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >I've been trying almost for a month now to set up a PPP server for dialup >services, and i have 2 problems > >1. Every time i try to run 'pppd' i get the message; > SORRY , PPP is not availible on this system. > If I remember correctly this message is invoked when the ppN drivers are not installed in the kernel. You need to make a new kernel with the following line in it: pseudo-device ppp NN Replace NN with the number of ppp devices you need. PS: Hector, a direct email to your address, was returned with a host unknown error. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Terry Rossi 609-767-0354 V Enterprise Wide Technologies 609-767-0216 F Medford, NJ tpr@ewt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Terry Rossi 609-767-0354 V Enterprise Wide Technologies 609-767-0216 F Medford, NJ tpr@ewt.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 10:08:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA06025 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:08:32 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06019 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:08:31 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA23558; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:02:41 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509051702.KAA23558@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Why "finger" takes so long ? To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:02:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509051019.MAA01060@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at Sep 5, 95 12:19:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1470 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > One of our systems has some 600+ account on it. "finger" takes some 20 > seconds to run, and most of the time is spent waiting for something, as > the output of "ps -augl" shows: > > 7834 11468 7891 2 -6 0 344 640 biowai D p5 0:01.42 finger cssip > > Note that re-running the same command does not give any performance > improvement. > > At the moment, the system is mostly idle (two active users), has 16M RAM, no > X active, and top shows the following: > > Memory: 5508K Active, 680K Inact, 2704K Wired, 1468K Cache, 3808K Free > Swap: 66M Total, 62M Free, 6% Inuse > > Any ideas on why it takes so long ? This is something I always > experienced on this system, since the feb.95 snapshot. Finger looks up the user's directory; basically, it looks up the home directory as a file name. So it's looking up a directory entry in a directory 600 entries deep for each user currently on the system (for a non-explicit finger). There was a patch to finger that rolled by on the list to prevent it from doing this sort of thing. Of course with gnu-finger (if that's what you are running) you are screwed because of the need to look for .nofinger, etc. in the users home directory, and no patch is possible. If you are running the standard finger, check the list archives for the patch (I didn't save it). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 10:09:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA06044 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:09:10 -0700 Received: from txcc.net ([205.218.183.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06038 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:09:09 -0700 Received: (from litteken@localhost) by txcc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA02034 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:08:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:08:16 -0500 From: Todd Litteken Message-Id: <199509051708.MAA02034@txcc.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: trouble with email Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk i have been working on setting up a system where there will be more than one domain address.. so that users can regester a nic with internic and we will pump the mail going to that nic to there account.. such as i am cl@txcc.net but if i wanted i could update my domain se-net.com and receve mail cl@se-net.com.. all the mail would be forwareded to my account cl@txcc.net.. hope this makes sence.. so i figured the best way to handle it would be to give this machine multipal nics ... (Maby i am rong) so i set up the varibul Cw in the sendmail.cf to show several nic's and used CNAME in the namedb.. i have also tried giving the machine 2 IP addresses and assigning names to both IP's no matter what i do i get the same error.. somthing about sending mail to myself.. could some one please explain to me the proper way to handle this.. the test i am doing is by setting up cl.txcc.net and send mail to it.. befor we try updateing my nic.. thanks oh.. we are on FreeBSD 2.0.5 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 10:24:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA06285 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:24:32 -0700 Received: from gw.cronyx.msk.su (gw.cronyx.srcc.msu.su [158.250.244.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06274 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:21:59 -0700 Received: by gw.cronyx.msk.su id VAA04010; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:20:24 +0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:20:24 +0400 From: vak@gw.cronyx.msk.su (Serge V.Vakulenko) Message-Id: <199509051720.VAA04010@gw.cronyx.msk.su> To: huck@ctt.bellcore.com (Andy Huckabee (908) 699-3112), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD-ROM Newsgroups: freebsd.questions Organization: Cronyx Ltd. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article you wrote: : When I boot I see the following: : ATAPI IDE CD-ROM device driver version V 1.33 (04/20/1995) : Copyright(c) MITSUMI Electric Co.,LTD 1994, 1995 : Will this driver/CD-ROM configuration work with FreeBSD 2.0.5? Pure 2.0.5 does not support ATAPI CD-ROMs. Use -current version, or get and install wcd driver. I can send you the latest version (1.3 or probably already 1.4), if you need it. Regards, Serge -- Serge Vakulenko Cronyx Ltd., Moscow Unix consulting and custom programming phone: +7 (095) 939-23-23 FreeBSD support fax: +7 (095) 939-03-00 Relcom network development From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 10:26:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA06360 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:26:32 -0700 Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06353 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:26:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA00185; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:13:50 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199509051713.TAA00185@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Why "finger" takes so long ? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:13:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509051702.KAA23558@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Sep 5, 95 10:02:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 916 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Finger looks up the user's directory; basically, it looks up the home > directory as a file name. > > So it's looking up a directory entry in a directory 600 entries deep > for each user currently on the system (for a non-explicit finger). if that matters, home directories are spread, about 10-15 per subdir. But then, this might even make things worse! > If you are running the standard finger, check the list archives for > the patch (I didn't save it). can you point me to some of those archives ? Thanks Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 10:27:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA06423 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:27:06 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06417 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:27:03 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA23606; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:20:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509051720.KAA23606@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Why "finger" takes so long ? To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:20:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Sep 5, 95 03:07:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1764 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > 2:14pm@itu:~% time finger kallio > Login: kallio Name: Seppo Kallio > Directory: /export/lk/kallio Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh > On since Tue Sep 5 14:12 (EET DST) on ttyp0 from zaphod.maccc.jyu > No Mail. > 0.249u 1.666s 0:32.25 5.8% 21+439k 1926+14io 0pf+0w > 2:15pm@itu:~% > > I have 1776 accounts but idle node, not many users yet. For explicit fingers, you should up the size of your name cache. The name cache hash size is calculated by adding maxproc to vm_object_cache_max in vfs_subr.c. The name cache size before reuse is dictated by the number of vnodes currently in the cache, and the number of vnodes in the cache prior to reuse is once again relative to maxproc. Probably what is happening is that the directory is large enough that the full set of directory entries in the home directory that contains the users for your system isn't in cache all at once. Basically you can bounce NPROC higher and this will effectively increase the hash size and the number of vnodes in the vnode cache, or you can divide your home directory so that all your users aren't in one directory, or you can avoid the stat in the finger code and hope that that is sufficient (probably won't be in your particular case). It's a generally good idea to have /home broken up into multiple directories instead of running all the users in the same directory in any case. ie: /home/u1/joe /home/u1/john /home/u2/tom /home/u2/ted ... Finger will only traverse a u1 or u2 directories worth of entries into the cache at a time -- no help for a general finger, but a lot for a specific one. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 10:27:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA06482 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:27:24 -0700 Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi (hutcs.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA06476 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:27:22 -0700 Received: from shadows.cs.hut.fi by hutcs.cs.hut.fi with SMTP id AA16693 (5.65c8/HUTCS-S 1.4 for ); Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:27:08 +0300 Received: (hsu@localhost) by shadows.cs.hut.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) id UAA04734; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:27:13 +0300 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:27:13 +0300 Message-Id: <199509051727.UAA04734@shadows.cs.hut.fi> From: Heikki Suonsivu To: "Duane R. Ellison" Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: "Duane R. Ellison"'s message of 4 Sep 1995 09:43:20 +0300 Subject: Cyclades CYCLOM-16Ye/RJ45 RISC Based Multi IO Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are considering purchasing a Cyclades 16 port multi I/O board (CYCLOM-16Ye/RJ45) and I would like to know if anyone is currently using (or previously used) one of these products. The main reason I am writing this is that I noticed in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT it says that the drivers are "ALPHA QUAILITY". Since we are planning on running a ISP off this hardware I want to see if the drivers at least work, before we drop the money on the card. The current driver seems to be stable with 8-port cy boards, but I could not get it to probe a 16 port board when I tried it last night. The driver didn't see the board at all. I tried the board with linux driver and it worked so it seems that the driver needs more work (but it probably works if the probe problem can be fixed). So, not yet for 16 ports. I'll probably experiment more next night. I have had 8 V34 modems hanging on 8Yo with no serious problems for about 3 weeks. It runs PPP and terminal sessions, uses gated for OSFP, FreeBSD-current. It was reported dead one night but was rebooted before checking out what was on the console, so I can't be sure what was the problem. -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 10:33:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA06662 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:33:40 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06656 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:33:38 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA23640; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:28:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509051728.KAA23640@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Why "finger" takes so long ? To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:28:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509051713.TAA00185@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at Sep 5, 95 07:13:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 935 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Finger looks up the user's directory; basically, it looks up the home > > directory as a file name. > > > > So it's looking up a directory entry in a directory 600 entries deep > > for each user currently on the system (for a non-explicit finger). > > if that matters, home directories are spread, about 10-15 per subdir. > But then, this might even make things worse! See my other message; it depends on if you are complaining about a generic "finger" or a "finger ". You were only 600 users, the other was ~3 times that many. > > If you are running the standard finger, check the list archives for > > the patch (I didn't save it). > > can you point me to some of those archives ? http://www.freebsd.org ftp://freefall.cdrom.com ftp://ftp.freebsd.org One of those places. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 10:35:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA06746 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:35:00 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06736 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:34:59 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA23630; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:25:17 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509051725.KAA23630@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Samba To: hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU (Wayne Hernandez) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:25:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Wayne Hernandez" at Sep 5, 95 08:41:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 757 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I seem to be unable to get Samba to see WFW/Windows95 clients. The > Microsoft clients/network does not have a ip/router, so I get messages > that my name can't be located first off. > > Can I create my own ethers file and assign ip addresses to the WFW/Windows > clients, or is a router required? You can, but that won't fix your problem. Look at the samba nmbd program (which you should be running as well) and the protocol level (if you haven't left it at the default). If all else fails, read the FAQ or post to the Samba mailing list (address in the README) or the Same news group comp.protocols.smb. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 12:02:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA00188 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:02:31 -0700 Received: from txcc.net ([205.218.183.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA07332 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:45:03 -0700 Received: (from litteken@localhost) by txcc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA02179 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:44:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:44:20 -0500 From: Todd Litteken Message-Id: <199509051744.MAA02179@txcc.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: singup Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk litteken@txcc.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 12:27:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA00924 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:27:49 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA00917 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:27:47 -0700 Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzfxl16766; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:27:46 -0400 Received: from sawmill.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:27:46 -0400 Received: by sawmill.uucp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.8) id ; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:26 EST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:26 EST From: sawmill!rjk@uunet.uu.net (Richard Kuhns) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: accessing a printer with an ethernet card Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Picture it: an HP LaserJet with an ethernet card on a small DOS/Windows network. The company would like to install a FreeBSD box running 2.0.5-RELEASE (to do some other work), and allow it to access the printer. Is there any software available that can handle this? If there's a problem with making sure only one box uses the printer at a time, it's perfectly acceptable to have the FreeBSD machine be the only system driving the printer (ie, route the DOS/Windows print jobs through the FreeBSD machine). Any suggestions/comments would be greatly appreciated. -- Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 100 Sawmill Road Lafayette, IN 47903 (317)477-6000 x319 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 12:28:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA01099 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:28:44 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA01083 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:28:43 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA19618 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:55:19 -0700 Received: from rainier (rainier.dtr.com [204.119.48.36]) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA04189; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:48:42 -0700 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by rainier (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00638; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:54:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199509051854.LAA00638@rainier> Subject: Re: Moving from 2.0R to 2.0.5 To: tpr@pics.com (Terry Rossi) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509031844.OAA24334@picspc01.pics.com> from "Terry Rossi" at Sep 3, 95 02:44:40 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2027 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I would love to hear from folks who have done this. My FreeBSD system is > mainly used for > the following things and I don't know how hard the "upgrade" process will be. > The stuff I use most. > Inn > CERN Http > Lynx > PPPd > IRC Client > Sendmail/UUCP > Perl 4 > Does any of this break or get drasticly better under 2.0.5 > What is the recommended process to upgrade? Is there an upgrade procedure? Here's what I did. It may or may not be successful for you - it depends on how you've set up your filesystems. I install all of my systems so that / and /usr are separate filesystems, and the only things on those filesystems is the FreeBSD distribution. Everything else (additional installed software, home directories, etc.) goes on other filesystems. Generally speaking, I install with at least the following filesystems: / /usr /var /usr/local /home The goal is to replace everything in / and /usr without touching the rest. First of all, back up your system. I can't emphasize this enough. I also make backup copies of everything in /etc on a floppy so that I can meld changes into the new installed versions. Boot the 2.0.5 installation floppy. Don't modify the partition map. After you enter the disklabel editor, assign mountpoints for /, /usr, and swap. Toggle newfs on for / and /usr. All other FreeBSD filesystems should be toggled to NOT perform newfs. Either assign mountpoints now, or later by editing/restoring /etc/fstab. Proceed with the installation. After the installation is complete, copy any files from your saved copy of /etc that you need. This would include your password files (pwd.db, spwd.db, passwd, master.passwd) and fstab, at least. You might also want to restore some of the contents of /var depending on your individual circumstances. Personally, I like to keep at least the contents of /var/log, /var/db, and /var/mail. Any comments or improvements on this general procedure would be appreciatied. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 12:59:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA02621 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:59:17 -0700 Received: from Relay1.Austria.EU.net (relay1.Austria.EU.net [192.92.138.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA02606 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:59:06 -0700 From: marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at Received: from aut.alcatel.at (dnisun.aut.alcatel.at) by Relay1.Austria.EU.net with SMTP id AA19947 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:56:17 +0200 Received: from atuhc16 by aut.alcatel.at (4.1/SMI-4.1/AAA-1.29/main) id AA27714; Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:56:19 +0200 Message-Id: <9509051956.AA27714@atuhc16.aut.alcatel.at> Received: by atuhc16 (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA11023; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:56:12 +0200 Subject: Re: accessing a printer with an ethernet card To: rjk%sawmill@uunet.uu.net (Richard Kuhns) (Richard Kuhns) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:56:12 METDST Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: ; from "Richard Kuhns" at Sep 5, 95 2:26 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Picture it: an HP LaserJet with an ethernet card on a small DOS/Windows > network. The company would like to install a FreeBSD box running > 2.0.5-RELEASE (to do some other work), and allow it to access the printer. > Is there any software available that can handle this? If there's a problem > with making sure only one box uses the printer at a time, it's perfectly > acceptable to have the FreeBSD machine be the only system driving the > printer (ie, route the DOS/Windows print jobs through the FreeBSD machine). AFAIK, JetDirect can boot via bootp which sends it its IP address. This basically means that you may have to run bootpd somewhere. Furthermore, JetDirect implements BSD lpd support for remote printing (i.e. listens on the necessary ports.) It should have no problem with multiple requests. Therefore, something will have to run lpd client part. FreeBSD box should be able to do both, without problem. You could also run Samba on FreeBSD to map lanman printers into lpr/lpd scheme. We have some HP w/JetDirect printers here, but I'd have to ask our admins about their administration. FWIW, it is very likely that JetDirect behaves as a lanman printer as well. (as a matter of fact, your mail implies it, now that I have read it again.) /Alby > Any suggestions/comments would be greatly appreciated. > -- > Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com > PO Box 6249 > 100 Sawmill Road > Lafayette, IN 47903 > (317)477-6000 x319 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 14:06:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA06063 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:06:06 -0700 Received: from mars.csg.peachnet.edu (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA06054 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:06:02 -0700 Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.csg.peachnet.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA01268 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 16:52:09 GMT Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 5 Sep 95 17:07:00 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.21); 5 Sep 95 17:06:40 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:06:33 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Two Questions Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk 1. Is it possible to use a parallel port tape backup with FreeBSD and if so how do I do it? 2. Is there support for the adaptec 1505/1515 scsi controllers in FreeBSD if so which driver is it? Thanks, Christian____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.3045 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 15:17:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA08322 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:17:14 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA08316 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:17:08 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HUXECS7HXS00144I@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Tue, 05 Sep 1995 18:54:06 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id TAA29093; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:06:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 19:06:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: Samba In-reply-to: from "Wayne Hernandez" at Sep 5, 95 08:41:34 am To: hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU (Wayne Hernandez) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199509051706.TAA29093@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 925 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I seem to be unable to get Samba to see WFW/Windows95 clients. The > Microsoft clients/network does not have a ip/router, so I get messages > that my name can't be located first off. Note that the WfW clients have to run some TCP/IP stack. e.g. TCP/IP-32. Win95 has TCP/IP per se. I assume you want to run FreeBSD as a server to the WfW/Win95 clients. How does your nmbd/smbd start look like in /etc/rc.local? I recommend to add a -B to the nmbd start line. > > Can I create my own ethers file and assign ip addresses to the WFW/Windows > clients, or is a router required? No router required. What do you mean by ethers file? I doubt that DHCP fully works int FreeBSD/bootpd so I recommend to use hardwired IP-Addresses in the Windows PCs (does WfW/Win95 support DHCP?) I thought that would only NT do. > > > Wayne > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 15:28:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA08938 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:28:43 -0700 Received: from TALON.BOLTZ.CS.CMU.EDU (TALON.BOLTZ.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.203.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA08932 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:28:41 -0700 Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.TALON.BOLTZ.CS.CMU.EDU.pmax.mach via MS.5.6.TALON.BOLTZ.CS.CMU.EDU.pmax_mach; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:28:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew.White@cs.cmu.edu To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Audio/Video Players Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm wondering what people do about playing sounds/video on their FreeBSD boxes. Currently, I use auplay for .au and .wav files (using the au server) and mpeg_play for MPEG videos. The problem is that I can't play mpegs with sound or quicktime movies. Whatever solution doesn't need to be too fancy. The only time I do anything with sound/video is when I'm toolin' around on the web, not doing serious work. -Matt From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 15:34:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA09072 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:34:36 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA09066 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:34:34 -0700 Received: from tellab5.lisle.tellabs.com (tellab5.lisle.tellabs.com [138.111.243.28]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA21629 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:34:25 -0700 Received: from genesis.bb.tellabs.com by tellab5.lisle.tellabs.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sq6Xp-000jBtC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 17:32 CDT Received: by genesis.bb.tellabs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA19268; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:32:40 -0500 From: mikebo@tellab5 (Mike Borowiec) Message-Id: <199509052232.RAA19268@genesis.bb.tellabs.com> Subject: 486 Laptop recommendations anyone? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:32:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings - I'm looking for recommendations for an inexpensive (not cheap ;v) laptop that's known to run FreeBSD 2.x and XFree86. Most people I know running UNIX on a laptop are Linux users, so I want to be sure drivers are out there that will support the built-in display. I'm looking for: 486DX2/66 minimum with 8-16MB RAM and >= 500MB hard disk. 3.5" floppy and PCMCIA slot(s) to support an ethernet and 28.8 modem. I don't really care if it's mono or color, since most of the work I do is text based anyhow... Thanks! - Mike -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Borowiec Network Operations Tellabs Operations, Inc. mikebo@TELLABS.COM 1000 Remington Blvd. MS109 708-378-6007 FAX: 708-378-6714 Bolingbrook, IL, USA 60440 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 16:34:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA10773 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 16:34:44 -0700 Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (sass165.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA10759 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 16:34:38 -0700 Received: from tranp ([134.253.22.6]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.6.11/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA04556 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:42:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199509052342.RAA04556@sass165.sandia.gov> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 95 17:31:27 -0600 From: Michael S Burg Organization: Dept. 1333 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2b5 (Windows; I; 32bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: clntcp_create() RPC portmap failure... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! During bootup sequences...The error shows up righ after the system tries to add route default. The error is: clntcp_create() RPC portmap failure.. No receive. Then everything goes up as usual... when I use "telnet" from another system to telnet to the BSD system, I got error displayed on my telnet window "clntcp_create() RPC program is not registered....". But it does let me to connect as normal. The problem appeared right after I setup YP/NIS. I disable YP/NIS, and other... But the problem is still existed. Further looking into "/etc/rpc", but nothing can help me... Thank you very much for your help! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 17:15:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA12411 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:15:38 -0700 Received: from statsci.statsci.com (statsci.statsci.com [198.145.127.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA12401 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:15:35 -0700 Received: by statsci.statsci.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0sq85L-0005iSC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 17:11 PDT Received: (from scott@localhost) by sabami.seaslug.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA10090; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:16:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:16:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199509060016.RAA10090@sabami.seaslug.org> From: Scott Blachowicz To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: scott@sabami.seaslug.org Reply-to: Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org Subject: Status of 'send-pr' command and its handling at freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi- I've sent in a couple of reports with 'send-pr' today in the past couple days. What I get back starts like this: Return-Path: statsci!statsci.com!camco!MAILER-DAEMON Received: from statsci.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sabami.seaslug.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id PAA09865 for scott; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:00:52 -0700 Received: from main.statsci.com by statsci.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0sq5pQ-0005iUC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:46 PDT Received: from statsci.statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sq5tN-000r3uC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:50 PDT Received: from camco by statsci.statsci.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0sq5pM-0005iTC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:46 PDT Received: from main.statsci.com by camco.celestial.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq5fU-0000JPC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:36 PDT Received: from freefall.freebsd.org by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sq5jX-000r3uC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:40 PDT Received: from localhost (localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with internal id OAA07236 ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:40:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:40:42 -0700 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 2 Message-Id: <199509052140.OAA07236@freefall.freebsd.org> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="OAA07236.810337242/freefall.freebsd.org" This is a MIME-encapsulated message --OAA07236.810337242/freefall.freebsd.org The original message was received at Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:40:40 -0700 from statsci.statsci.com [198.145.127.9] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- "| /usr/local/lib/gnats/queue-pr -q >/dev/null 2>&1" (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 "| /usr/local/lib/gnats/queue-pr -q >/dev/null 2>&1"... unknown mailer error 2 Is the 'send-pr' mechanism out of commission? Should I try again later? Or just send to bugs@freebsd.org? Also, I wasn't too clear from the 'send-pr' man page if I need to do a 'send-pr --request-id' or not? The quick version of what I was reporting: 1) zsh-2.6b8 package doesn't add entry to /etc/shells 2) /bin/sh has a problem with quoting in something like this sample case: x2=XX n=2 t=`eval echo \\\$x$n` echo $t On everything (HPUX, SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, AIX, DEC OSF1) except FreeBSD, that produces 'XX' as output. FreeBSD gives '2' as the output. If a bit of redirection is introduced for the dollar sign: d='$' t=`eval echo ${d}x$n` then it works. So, should I just keep trying send-pr again? Are the above known problems? Thanx, Scott Blachowicz Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 17:23:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA12677 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:23:24 -0700 Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA12671 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:23:22 -0700 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA10570; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:22:47 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199509060022.RAA10570@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: multiple variable definitions in object files To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: archie@tribe.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 907 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Can someone explain why the linker allows multiple definitions of a variable to be linked together without complaining or warning? I found this surprising... I thought this was a no-no. At least it has always caused errors in the past it seems. I didn't see any relevant info in the ld(1) man page. For example: ======== foo.c ============ int global; main() { global = 2; printf("foo: global = %d\n", global); bar(); } ======== bar.c ============ float global; bar() { printf("bar: global = %f\n", global); } ======== compile with ========== $ cc -o foobar foo.c bar.c $ foobar foo: global = 2 bar: global = 0.000000 $ Thanks for any insight, -Archie _______________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@tribe.com * Tribe Computer Works http://www.tribe.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 17:32:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA12898 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:32:51 -0700 Received: from saber.cent.com (c3.ptw.com [204.178.60.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA12890 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:32:36 -0700 Received: (from duane@localhost) by saber.cent.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00222; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:31:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:31:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Duane R. Ellison" X-Sender: duane@saber.cent.com To: "Serge V.Vakulenko" cc: "Andy Huckabee (908) 699-3112" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <199509051720.VAA04010@gw.cronyx.msk.su> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Serge V.Vakulenko wrote: > Pure 2.0.5 does not support ATAPI CD-ROMs. > Use -current version, or get and install wcd driver. > > I can send you the latest version (1.3 or probably already 1.4), > if you need it. I have a friend who is in this boat. I have one stupid question, can you put the new drivers in 2.0.5 or do you have to become "current" to make them work. He has a level limited system and would really like to be able to run stuff off his cd-rom drive and doesn't have the connection or the space to get the source and compile it. I figured I could create a kernel on my machine and send it too him to use. I at least think that idea would work. But I am using 2.0.5 (like he is). I apologize if this has already been hashed out, but I until now I have not been following this issue because it didn't pertain to me. Thanks for the help. --- Duane ____________________________________________________________________________ Duane Ellison Duane@gargamel.ptw.com Edwards, California http://gargamel.ptw.com/~Duane From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 18:54:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA15088 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:54:58 -0700 Received: from uu-dup0.tokyo.spin.ad.jp (uu-dup0.tokyo.spin.ad.jp [165.76.100.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA15082 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:54:55 -0700 Received: from spingate.tky.shi.co.jp by uu-dup0.tokyo.spin.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb3/3.4Wbata3-08/18/95) id KAA13039; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:54:51 +0900 Received: from [160.186.35.37] (ninja) by spingate.tky.shi.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-local-1.0) id AA11802; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:55:12 JST Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:55:12 JST Message-Id: <9509060155.AA11802@spingate.tky.shi.co.jp> To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: tanizaki_nao@hrt.shi.co.jp (Naoaki Tanizaki(=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQys6aiEhRD4+PBsoQg==?=)) X-Sender: tanizaki@spingate.tky.shi.co.jp Subject: I'm looking for Motif for FreeBSD. Cc: tanizaki_nao@hrt.shi.co.jp (Naoaki Tanizaki(=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQys6aiEhRD4+PBsoQg==?=)) X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.3J7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Our company have been developing an image processing system for nuclear medicine. We developed it on OSF/1 and SunOS with OSF Motif. As you know, there are many DOS/V PCs in the world and they are getting powerfull. So, we have a plan for migrating it to DOS/V PC with FreeBSD. Then, if you could, would you please answer following questions? 1) Can we use FreeBSD as a product platform? If we could it, what should we do for it? 2) I'm looking for Motif for FreeBSD. How can we get Motif for FreeBSD? Incidentally, we are testing FreeBSD on following configuration. We could install v2.0.5R on our system successfully and we have been using it with no problem. System Configuration ------------------------------------------------- MOTHER BOAD : P/I-P55TP4XE (with 256KB cashe) CPU : Pentium 133MHz (P54C-133) MEMORY : 32MB VIDEO BOAD : MACH64PCI(E)/2MB (ATI Technologies inc) FDD : A3.5" (3mode) HDD : IDE1.2GB NETWORK I/F : 3C509-TP (3Com) SCSI I/F : PCI-SC200 (NCR) ------------------------------------------------- I think you are very busy, but your prompt reply will be highly appreciated. ====================================================== Naoaki Tanizaki Engineer Research & Development Center Coporate Technology Operations Group SUMITOMO HEAVY INDUSTRIES, LTD. 63-30 YUUHIGAOKA, HIRATSUKA KANAGAWA-KEN 245, JAPAN TEL 0463-21-8421 FAX 0463-21-8455 E-mail tanizaki_nao@hrt.shi.co.jp ====================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 19:08:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA15653 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:08:01 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA15646 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:07:59 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14797(2)>; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:07:16 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177475>; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:07:07 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: Terry Lambert cc: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio), luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why "finger" takes so long ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 95 10:20:57 PDT." <199509051720.KAA23606@phaeton.artisoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:07:04 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Sep5.190707pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199509051720.KAA23606@phaeton.artisoft.com> you write: >> 2:14pm@itu:~% time finger kallio >> Login: kallio Name: Seppo Kallio >> Directory: /export/lk/kallio Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh >> On since Tue Sep 5 14:12 (EET DST) on ttyp0 from zaphod.maccc.jyu >> No Mail. >> 0.249u 1.666s 0:32.25 5.8% 21+439k 1926+14io 0pf+0w >> 2:15pm@itu:~% >> >> I have 1776 accounts but idle node, not many users yet. > [...] >Probably what is happening is that the directory is large enough >that the full set of directory entries in the home directory that >contains the users for your system isn't in cache all at once. I suspect that the real problem is a combination of the hide() bug (finger stat()'s ~user/.nofinger for every user in the passwd file; fixed in -current) and the less-than-ideal behavior of finger when you give it a username but don't give it -m. I think that the non-mflag case should try getpwnam() on the argument first, before walking the whole passwd file, since people will often just type "finger username" when what they mean is "finger -m username". Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 19:17:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA16344 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:17:25 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA16335 ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:17:21 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14572(6)>; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:16:46 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177475>; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:16:39 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org cc: questions@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of 'send-pr' command and its handling at freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 95 17:16:00 PDT." <199509060016.RAA10090@sabami.seaslug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:16:32 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Sep5.191639pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199509060016.RAA10090@sabami.seaslug.org> you write: >I've sent in a couple of reports with 'send-pr' today in the past >couple days. What I get back starts like this: > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 2 > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 554 "| /usr/local/lib/gnats/queue-pr -q >/dev/null 2>&1"... unknown mailer > error 2 Sometimes I think that people *like* to see "unknown mailer error"... Whoever wrote queue-pr should have tatooed on his forehead... all scripts executed from aliases should exit with these codes so that sendmail can at least return slightly meaningful error messages! Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 19:22:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA16723 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:22:58 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA16715 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:22:55 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA02591; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:22:45 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509060222.TAA02591@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: I'm looking for Motif for FreeBSD. To: tanizaki_nao@hrt.shi.co.jp (Naoaki Tanizaki(=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQys6aiEhRD4+PBsoQg==?=)) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, tanizaki_nao@hrt.shi.co.jp In-Reply-To: <9509060155.AA11802@spingate.tky.shi.co.jp> from "Naoaki Tanizaki(=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQys6aiEhRD4+PBsoQg==?=)" at Sep 6, 95 10:55:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2948 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Our company have been developing an image processing system > for nuclear medicine. > We developed it on OSF/1 and SunOS with OSF Motif. > As you know, there are many DOS/V PCs in the world and > they are getting powerfull. > So, we have a plan for migrating it to DOS/V PC with FreeBSD. > Then, if you could, would you please answer following questions? > > 1) Can we use FreeBSD as a product platform? > If we could it, what should we do for it? definitly.. the upcoming 2.1 would be a good version to use as it's designed for stability.. 2.0.x were more experimental versions and 2.2 will be a 'new features' version.. 2.1 is a 'stability first' version. (as will 2.3) > 2) I'm looking for Motif for FreeBSD. > How can we get Motif for FreeBSD? I keep forgetting where, but several companies do sell motif for freeBSD check http://www.freebsd.org/ I seem to remember that this exact question is covered there somewhere.. > > Incidentally, we are testing FreeBSD on following configuration. > We could install v2.0.5R on our system successfully and we > have been using it with no problem. As you already have FreeBSD loaded, then you should look in /usr/share/FAQ/Text/FreeBSD.FAQ: ------------------------------------------- 3.1: Where can I get Motif for FreeBSD? You can purchase Motif 1.2.3 for FreeBSD (SWiM) from the ACC Bookstore, P.O. Box 3364, Westport CT. 06880. 1-800-546-7274 or FAX: 1-203-454-2582 This software works flawlessly for for FreeBSD 1.1.5 but has shown one problem with 2.0 in that the "uil" program core dumps. This is apparently because of the way uil is installed, and it's quite possible that ACC will have a fixed version by the time you read this. No other compatibility problems with the programs or libraries have been found, and ACC can hardly be blamed for failing to work perfectly with a brand-new release they haven't even seen yet! :) ------------------------------------------ There may also be others.. > > System Configuration > ------------------------------------------------- > MOTHER BOAD : P/I-P55TP4XE (with 256KB cashe) > CPU : Pentium 133MHz (P54C-133) > MEMORY : 32MB > VIDEO BOAD : MACH64PCI(E)/2MB (ATI Technologies inc) > FDD : A3.5" (3mode) > HDD : IDE1.2GB > NETWORK I/F : 3C509-TP (3Com) > SCSI I/F : PCI-SC200 (NCR) > ------------------------------------------------- it does look like a good configuration > > I think you are very busy, but your prompt reply will be highly appreciated. > > ====================================================== > Naoaki Tanizaki > Engineer > Research & Development Center > Coporate Technology Operations Group > SUMITOMO HEAVY INDUSTRIES, LTD. > 63-30 YUUHIGAOKA, HIRATSUKA KANAGAWA-KEN 245, JAPAN > TEL 0463-21-8421 FAX 0463-21-8455 > E-mail tanizaki_nao@hrt.shi.co.jp > ====================================================== > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 19:24:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA16774 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:24:20 -0700 Received: from mail0.iij.ad.jp (mail0.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA16767 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:24:16 -0700 Received: from uucp0.iij.ad.jp (uucp0.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.51]) by mail0.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-MAIL) with ESMTP id LAA24033; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:24:03 +0900 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp0.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-UUCP) with UUCP id LAA05330; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:24:07 +0900 Received: from xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp by fender.fct.kgc.co.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4W:95071117) id KAA19696; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:50:46 +0900 Received: by xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp (8.6.11/3.3W8:95062916) id KAA03475; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:50:45 +0900 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:50:45 +0900 From: Toshihiro Kanda Message-Id: <199509060150.KAA03475@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> To: Wayne Hernandez In-reply-to: Subject: Re: make world Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > How long is a make world supposed to take? I finally aborted my attempt > yesterday after 4 days of compiling. I had only 8 megs of ram on a > 386DX-40, but my replacement is going to be a 486DX-33 with 16 megs of > ram. > > Could I restart the process where it left off, or do I have to start over? > It took over an hour to do the cleaning of /usr/obj when it was already > empty. > > Wayne It takes 6 hours with P5-100/32MB/AHA1542CF+3HDDs. I remember it didn't take a day with 433/16MB/AHA1542CF+3HDDs. `make world' makes "hierarchy mk cleandist includes lib-tools libraries tools", then make depend all install. Perhaps you may restart from any target (I'm not sure). I recommend to separate root filesystem, /usr/bin and /usr/obj(/var/obj) to three different diskpacks. At least you should separate /usr/bin and /usr/obj. Also you can uncomment "CFLAGS=-O2 - m486 -pipe" line in /etc/make.conf if you have enough memory. This improves disk load VERY well. You can check disk load by iostat(8), vmstat(8) or systat(1). candy@fct.kgc.co.jp (Toshihiro Kanda) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 19:42:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA17283 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:42:07 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA17277 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:42:06 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14525(4)>; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:41:23 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177475>; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:41:12 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: bah6f@phil.cs.virginia.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org, babkin@hq.icb.chel.su Subject: Re: multicast on ep0 device In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Sep 95 10:08:09 PDT." <9509011708.AA25839@phil.cs.Virginia.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:41:01 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Sep5.194112pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <9509011708.AA25839@phil.cs.Virginia.EDU> you write: >I'm trying to get a FreeBSD box (2.1.0-SNAP) running some of the MBONE >tools. (sd, vat, nv, etc) It doesn't seem to want to do it, though. > >If I look at the ethernet device (ep0) I see >ep0: flags=863 mtu 1500 There is an ep driver that reports itself as multicast-capable floating around, but it hasn't made it into -current yet, for some reason. Perhaps someone else on the list saved the diffs last time they got posted?... Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 19:50:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA17762 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:50:58 -0700 Received: from hq.icb.chel.su (icb-rich-gw.icb.chel.su [193.125.10.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17707 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:50:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (babkin@localhost) by hq.icb.chel.su (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA26407; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:52:24 +0600 From: "Serge A. Babkin" Message-Id: <199509060252.IAA26407@hq.icb.chel.su> Subject: Re: multicast on ep0 device To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:52:24 +0600 (GMT+0600) Cc: bah6f@phil.cs.virginia.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <95Sep5.194112pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Sep 5, 95 07:41:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 733 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > In message <9509011708.AA25839@phil.cs.Virginia.EDU> you write: > >I'm trying to get a FreeBSD box (2.1.0-SNAP) running some of the MBONE > >tools. (sd, vat, nv, etc) It doesn't seem to want to do it, though. > > > >If I look at the ethernet device (ep0) I see > >ep0: flags=863 mtu 1500 > > There is an ep driver that reports itself as multicast-capable floating > around, but it hasn't made it into -current yet, for some reason. Perhaps > someone else on the list saved the diffs last time they got posted?... I have them. And just have sent it to you. Serge Babkin ! (babkin@hq.icb.chel.su) ! Headquarter of Joint Stock Commercial Bank "Chelindbank" ! Chelyabinsk, Russia From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 19:58:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA18745 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:58:39 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA18737 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:58:37 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA02686; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:57:14 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509060257.TAA02686@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: multicast on ep0 device To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bah6f@phil.cs.virginia.edu, questions@freebsd.org, babkin@hq.icb.chel.su In-Reply-To: <95Sep5.194112pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Sep 5, 95 07:41:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 877 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I had the impression that you don't actually need mcast support unless you are planning on sending it around your local net as a multicast.. if you're using one machine, it's probably possible to just be on the end of a pipeline into your site and not bother to multicast around your site. > > In message <9509011708.AA25839@phil.cs.Virginia.EDU> you write: > >I'm trying to get a FreeBSD box (2.1.0-SNAP) running some of the MBONE > >tools. (sd, vat, nv, etc) It doesn't seem to want to do it, though. > > > >If I look at the ethernet device (ep0) I see > >ep0: flags=863 mtu 1500 > > There is an ep driver that reports itself as multicast-capable floating > around, but it hasn't made it into -current yet, for some reason. Perhaps > someone else on the list saved the diffs last time they got posted?... > > Bill > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 21:03:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA22119 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:03:40 -0700 Received: from bravo.imagi.net (bravo.imagi.net [204.157.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA22113 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:03:36 -0700 Received: from ip134.imagi.net (ip134.imagi.net [204.157.4.134]) by bravo.imagi.net (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA15836 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:11:49 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:11:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199509060411.UAA15836@bravo.imagi.net> X-Sender: corellg@mail.imagi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: corellg@imagi.net (Gary B. Corell) Subject: ATLAS Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm wondering if anyone has seen an ATLAS compiler that runs on FreeBSD? Preferably a GNU (pronounced FREE 8) version. Thanks GBC From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 21:12:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA22427 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:12:04 -0700 Received: from virginia.edu (uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA22419 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:12:02 -0700 Received: from server.cs.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa02418; 6 Sep 95 0:12 EDT Received: from viper.cs.Virginia.EDU (viper-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU) by uvacs.cs.virginia.edu (4.1/5.1.UVA) id AA27656; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:12:00 EDT Posted-Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by viper.cs.Virginia.EDU (5.x/SMI-2.0) id AA21426; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:11:59 -0400 From: bah6f@server.cs.virginia.edu Message-Id: <9509060411.AA21426@viper.cs.Virginia.EDU> Subject: vat won't work (was: "multicast on ep0 device") To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:11:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Bill Fenner writes: -> There is an ep driver that reports itself as multicast-capable floating -> around, but it hasn't made it into -current yet, for some reason. Perhaps -> someone else on the list saved the diffs last time they got posted?... Turns out that I had an SMC card laying around in the networks lab, so I just swapped it in, and the ed0 device works like a champ. Thanks for the note, though. Unfortunately, one of the other things I said in that message: -> >I'm trying to get a FreeBSD box (2.1.0-SNAP) running some of the MBONE -> >tools. (sd, vat, nv, etc) It doesn't seem to want to do it, though. is still true, even with multicast stuff working fine. vat is now a pinprick in my posterior, the others work fine. If someone has vat running succesfully on a pentium, I'd love to hear about the configuration and what hardware you're using. If you want to see the long details and maybe help me debug this mess, read on. Otherwise, you can stop here. To get vat to work, I've done the following: - rebuilt the kernel with SoundBlaster support - made all the /dev/snd* and /dev/vatio devices - downloaded vat from ee.lbl.gov I'm using a simple, old 8-bit SoundBlaster, and I've got the kernel drivers configured fine (I think). If I run the voxware au server and audemo programs, I get a lot of messages "/kernel: PCM device 1 not installed", but it works otherwise. To actually use it I have to do all this: - fire up the voxware au server - fire up "audemo" and go to record mode. - activate the mic. - shutdown all the voxware programs. Then I can run vat and it will transmit fine. If I try to receive, I get a brief blast of static on the speakers, and then all is dead. vat still runs, but it never sends or receives another sound. When I quit it, I get a ps report something like this: paco 186 0.0 3.4 856 624 p3 SE 11:14PM 0:00.54 vat It is sleeping and trying to exit. (the SE in the status column). It never exits. Any subsequent vat's that I run will turn into zombies when they exit. Nothing is ever able to use the sound drivers again. Not the voxware stuff, not vat. I'm utterly stumped and this is holding up my research pretty badly. I graciously appreciate anyone who can help me out with this. Heck, if you want, I'll give you a 236Mb SCSI hard drive for solving this problem. I'm desperately seeking help. Thanks! Paco -- Brian "Paco" Hope Research Assistant, Technical Support Staff email: paco@virginia.edu Department of Computer Science WWW: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~bah6f/ University of Virginia From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 21:48:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA28638 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:48:25 -0700 Received: from theway.com ([206.2.187.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA28632 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:48:22 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by theway.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA00187 for FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:46:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:46:46 -0400 From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199509060446.AAA00187@theway.com> To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dialup Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk My dialup (ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200") is not working. When I check it (ps ax) I see that it is reporting login status as if a caller was already online. I set my DTR drop to do a soft reset, and my DSR to active after answer only - but no luck. Any ideas? My modem is a Zoom 14.4 VFP internal. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 5 23:09:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA01353 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:09:39 -0700 Received: from calweb.calweb.com (calweb.calweb.com [165.90.138.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA01347 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:09:37 -0700 Received: from web3 by calweb.calweb.com via ESMTP (8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id XAA09526; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:10:18 -0700 Received: (rdugaue@localhost) by web3 (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA28736; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:10:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Du Gaue To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: NFS mounts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I asked this a few weeks ago, but got no response. What is the suggest settings to NFS mount drives between FreeBSD machines? I'd like the machines to *not* hang should the other go down also! And when the downed machine comes back that everything comes back gracefully... Here's what I used now: web1.calweb.com:/u1 /u1 nfs rw,soft,intr,bg 0 0 web2.calweb.com:/u2 /u2 nfs rw,soft,intr,bg 0 0 web2.calweb.com:/ftp /ftp nfs rw,soft,intr,bg 0 0 web2.calweb.com:/misc /misc nfs rw,soft,intr,bg 0 0 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 00:06:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA03655 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:06:44 -0700 Received: from penzance.econ.yale.edu (penzance.econ.yale.edu [130.132.32.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA03649 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:06:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 03:06:33 -0400 (EDT) From: -Vince- To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: compiling gnu finger Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Has anyone out there successfully compiled gnu finger 1.37 under FreeBSD? If anyone did, can you tell me what did you need to do to get it to compile? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95 SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free! Chabot Observatory & Science Center From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 00:19:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA04130 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:19:15 -0700 Received: from warp10.smartlink.net (smartlink.net [204.118.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA04124 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:19:14 -0700 Received: by warp10.smartlink.net(8.6.12/SMARTLINK-1.0) with id AAA07054 for on Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:19:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph McDonald To: Joerg Wunsch cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199509040936.LAA22884@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, J Wunsch wrote: > > I'm having a weird routing problem. If I log into the FreeBSD machine > > via modem->termserver->FBSD and the modem drops carrier in the middle of > > the session, the route to my computer gets changed to the ethernet! > > Your netmask for the ethernet interface does include the IP address of > the SLIP peer. As long as the SLIP interface is up & running, its own > host route gets precedence over the ethernet network route. However, > if the modem drops carrier, the specific host route (this is the > _remote_ IP address of the SLIP i/f) disappears, hence all further > packets for this address default to the ethernet route, and the IP > layers attempt to ARP for it on the ethernet. So is there a way to fix this? This problem only occurs on the FBSD machine, not on a SunOS machine on the same network (although the sun isn't runinng routed, while the FBSD is....). In other words, shouldn't the FBSD pick up the route to the SLIP peer once I re-hook up to the portmaster? Thanks, -joe From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 01:04:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA06638 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:04:20 -0700 Received: from strider.ibenet.it ([194.179.130.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA06628 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:04:12 -0700 Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA16461; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:07:03 +0200 From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199509060807.KAA16461@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: Re: make world To: candy@fct.kgc.co.jp (Toshihiro Kanda) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:07:02 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199509060150.KAA03475@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> from "Toshihiro Kanda" at Sep 6, 95 10:50:45 am Reply-To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 736 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello. Quoting from Toshihiro Kanda (Wed Sep 6 03:50:45 1995): > > How long is a make world supposed to take? I finally aborted my attempt > > yesterday after 4 days of compiling. I had only 8 megs of ram on a > > 386DX-40, but my replacement is going to be a 486DX-33 with 16 megs of ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ram. ... > separate /usr/bin and /usr/obj. Also you can uncomment "CFLAGS=-O2 - > m486 -pipe" line in /etc/make.conf if you have enough memory. This ^^^^^^ Only when you switch to 486DX, of course. Bye, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 01:37:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA08183 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:37:58 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA08171 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:37:42 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA11294 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:40:49 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:42:12 +0300 To: questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: * rump + 4G disk rlogin -l root freebsd * Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have two problems. 1. I cannot find why I cannot rlogin/rsh into my FreeBSD machine from Sun without passwd. I have .rhosts correctly. I can login into all other accounts. Permissions are OK. I have secure an all my pseudo terminals in /etc/ttys: # Pseudo terminals ttyp0 none network off secure ttyp1 none network off secure ttyp2 none network off secure ttyp3 none network off secure ... Does rsh session have a tty? 2. rdump works on my 2G disk but gives disk errors on my 4G disk. Is there some limit in partition size? Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 04:20:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA11559 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 04:20:28 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA11547 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 04:20:25 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA16239 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:22:42 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:24:07 +0300 To: Christoph Kukulies , kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: * rlogin -l root freebsd -- problem solved, bug somewhere * Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 12:40 6/9/95, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >Look into /etc/hosts.equiv and see if it has some bogus >comment/line myfriend.mydomain or some such and remove it. >I had problems with this. Thak you! Yes! I did empty hosts.equiv and now rlogin works!!! Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 04:24:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA12399 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 04:24:44 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA12381 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 04:24:39 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id GAA30304; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 06:16:10 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA00187; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:18:26 GMT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:18:26 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ghostscript and HP Laserjet II Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk When I print tiff2ps files using gs configured for laserjet, the output is cropped by about 25 pixels on the top and 50 pixels on the right margin. I know the complete image is contained in the Postscript file because I can see it using gs in my X display. If tried a number of things but I am unable to solve the problem. Please help! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 05:23:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA22289 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 05:23:18 -0700 Received: from mars.csg.peachnet.edu (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA22279 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 05:23:16 -0700 Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.csg.peachnet.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA02089 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:09:08 GMT Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 6 Sep 95 08:24:13 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.21); 6 Sep 95 08:23:56 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:23:51 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Pcemu problems..please help Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just installed pcemu and it seems to work fine except for one itty bitty problem. I can't see any text!!??? When I start it up I get a pcemu window and the inside or background of the window is black, as it should be, but there is no text...all I see is a flashing dos-like cursor. When I do a simple command like "dir" (blindly) the cursor moves up as if it were scrolling a directory listing. Is there something I am missing? I read all the relevant documentation and there is nothing in there about setting or changing the text color. I also installed the font that came with the emulator but that doesn't seem to help. The system is a 486dx33 with 16Mb of RAM and is running XFree86 3.1.2 with the fvwm as my window manager. Oh one thing I did notice is that in the original 720k DriveA file that came with the emulator I was able to see the text in the readme file that was red or yellow. Another question I have about the emulator ....Is it possible to access a novell 3.12 or 4.1 network through the emulator, and if so is there anything out of the ordinary that I have to do to get this to work...? Thanks again, Christian ____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.3045 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 05:39:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA25603 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 05:39:04 -0700 Received: from Relay1.Austria.EU.net (relay1.Austria.EU.net [192.92.138.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA25552 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 05:38:59 -0700 From: marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at Received: from aut.alcatel.at (dnisun.aut.alcatel.at) by Relay1.Austria.EU.net with SMTP id AA13524 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:38:38 +0200 Received: from atuhc16 by aut.alcatel.at (4.1/SMI-4.1/AAA-1.29/main) id AA07458; Wed, 6 Sep 95 14:38:40 +0200 Message-Id: <9509061238.AA07458@atuhc16.aut.alcatel.at> Received: by atuhc16 (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA11076; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:38:33 +0200 Subject: Re: Ghostscript and HP Laserjet II To: rjbproc@vir.com (Robert Burns) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 14:38:33 METDST Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: ; from "Robert Burns" at Sep 5, 95 11:18 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > When I print tiff2ps files using gs configured for laserjet, the output is > cropped by about 25 pixels on the top and 50 pixels on the right margin. GhostScript's printer drivers have an internal notion of margins. They crop off everything that falls out of them. I had to reduce right margin on my installation in order not to lose some page space. The top margin is probably reduced because gs believes that you use different paper size than the one required by .ps file. It always tries to align bottom margin right. If the file requires a4, you will have to specify PAPERSIZE=a4 on gs command line. > I know the complete image is contained in the Postscript file because I can > see it using gs in my X display. > If tried a number of things but I am unable to solve the problem. Please > help! It would have helped have you enumeratd the things you have tried. /Alby > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) > Mtl., Ca. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 06:02:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA01679 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 06:02:45 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA01661 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 06:02:42 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA06426; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:56:55 -0500 Message-Id: <9509061256.AA06426@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:56:55 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: julian@ref.tfs.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I'm looking for Motif for FreeBSD. Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >------------------------------------------- >3.1: Where can I get Motif for FreeBSD? > >You can purchase Motif 1.2.3 for FreeBSD (SWiM) from the ACC Bookstore, >P.O. Box 3364, Westport CT. 06880. 1-800-546-7274 or FAX: 1-203-454-2582 It's actually Motif 2.0 for FreeBSD 2.0 and works for me with all FreeBSD versions up to -stable. You can probably still purchase Motif 1.2.3 from them also. >This software works flawlessly for for FreeBSD 1.1.5 but has shown >one problem with 2.0 in that the "uil" program core dumps. This is >apparently because of the way uil is installed, and it's quite possible >that ACC will have a fixed version by the time you read this. No >other compatibility problems with the programs or libraries have been >found, and ACC can hardly be blamed for failing to work perfectly with >a brand-new release they haven't even seen yet! :) The 2.0 version of Motif has worked flawlessly for me with everything I've built and run on FreeBSD 2.X. I've not tried uil though. The installation script that comes with SWiM 2.0 is not correct, but is easily fixed. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 06:15:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA04828 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 06:15:04 -0700 Received: from starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04794 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 06:14:58 -0700 From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.11/1.1) id IAA25223 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:14:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199509061314.IAA25223@starfire.mn.org> Subject: PS/2 mouse with FreeBSD 2.0.5-R To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:14:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 285 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, I just config'ed in the PS/2 mouse, and now the keyboard doesn't work. I checked the FAQ, and it has a question, but no answer! Is there a doc file hiding somewhere? John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 06:41:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA11266 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 06:41:27 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA11252 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 06:41:25 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA26838; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:18:57 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509061348.XAA26838@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Pcemu problems..please help To: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Christian) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:18:56 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Christian" at Sep 6, 95 08:23:51 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1583 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Christian stands accused of saying: > > Hi, > I just installed pcemu and it seems to work fine except for one > itty bitty problem. I can't see any text!!??? When I start it up I > get a pcemu window and the inside or background of the window is > black, as it should be, but there is no text...all I see is a > flashing dos-like cursor. When I do a simple command like "dir" > (blindly) the cursor moves up as if it were scrolling a directory > listing. Is there something I am missing? I read all the relevant Check your window manager colours; it's _possible_ that you've got something remapped. (It works OK here under fvwm) > Oh one thing I did notice is that in the original 720k DriveA file > that came with the emulator I was able to see the text in the readme > file that was red or yellow. Another question I have about the That would correspond with you having something screwy done to your colours. > emulator ....Is it possible to access a novell 3.12 or 4.1 network > through the emulator, and if so is there anything out of the ordinary > that I have to do to get this to work...? Totally impossible. > Christian Plazas -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 07:33:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA17925 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:33:08 -0700 Received: from moon.pr.erau.edu (moon.pr.erau.edu [192.101.135.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA17919 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:33:07 -0700 Received: from moon by moon.pr.erau.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #16) id m0sqLY7-0002FEC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 07:33 MST Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:33:59 -0700 (MST) From: Stephen Waits X-Sender: swaits@moon To: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: IPX/Netware 4? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone working on IPX and/or a Netware 4.x client for FreeBSD? Server? --Steve (http://pr.erau.edu/~swaits) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 07:55:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA19437 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:55:18 -0700 Received: from txcc.net ([205.218.183.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA19430 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:55:16 -0700 Received: (from litteken@localhost) by txcc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA02250 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 09:55:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 09:55:14 -0500 From: Todd Litteken Message-Id: <199509061455.JAA02250@txcc.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: question Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk this is a test.. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 08:22:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA01885 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:22:26 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA01723 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:22:17 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id LAA16449; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:12:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:12:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: 2.0R -> 2.1 stable To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk how to upgrade ?? will the following plan work ?? any gotcha's waiting for me ?? i have sup'ed all of stable into /home/sup/src..... the disk was disklabel'ed using the 2.0.5 sysinstall. i am planning on: dump all file systems create a fixit floppy with restore on-board cd /home/sup/src make world will this build and install everything ?? do i need to mv the /home/sup/src tree to /usr/src ?? jmb Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 08:54:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA18663 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:54:54 -0700 Received: from txcc.net ([205.218.183.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA18650 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:54:51 -0700 Received: (from litteken@localhost) by txcc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00336; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:54:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:54:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Litteken To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: test Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk singup. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:16:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA25635 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:16:40 -0700 Received: from orca.ens.cetys.mx ([158.122.3.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25599 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:16:36 -0700 Received: (from lecuanda@localhost) by orca.ens.cetys.mx (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA00419; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 02:17:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 02:17:25 -0800 (PST) From: Hector Lecuanda Ontiveros To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP hangs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have this problem: I'm using my FreeBSD box as a ppp server, using mgetty to spawn ppp, everything is working fine, except that when the remote user hangs up his modem or the line dropps, the ppp user process doesen't terminate, it keeps on living until i manually kill it, i already tried using the line timeout 120 on the ppp.config file, but still, ppp doesent exit. i'm usig it in -direct mode. any help will be greatly apreciated.. Hector Lecuanda Ontiveros Internet Academico Cetys Universidad, Campus Ensenada. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:19:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA26243 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:19:04 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA26236 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:19:03 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00240; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:13:56 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509061713.KAA00240@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Pcemu problems..please help To: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Christian) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:13:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Christian" at Sep 6, 95 08:23:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1851 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I just installed pcemu and it seems to work fine except for one > itty bitty problem. I can't see any text!!??? When I start it up I > get a pcemu window and the inside or background of the window is > black, as it should be, but there is no text...all I see is a > flashing dos-like cursor. When I do a simple command like "dir" > (blindly) the cursor moves up as if it were scrolling a directory > listing. Is there something I am missing? I read all the relevant > documentation and there is nothing in there about setting or changing > the text color. I also installed the font that came with the emulator > but that doesn't seem to help. The system is a 486dx33 with 16Mb of > RAM and is running XFree86 3.1.2 with the fvwm as my window manager. > Oh one thing I did notice is that in the original 720k DriveA file > that came with the emulator I was able to see the text in the readme > file that was red or yellow. Another question I have about the > emulator ....Is it possible to access a novell 3.12 or 4.1 network > through the emulator, and if so is there anything out of the ordinary > that I have to do to get this to work...? I'll take a guess at this one. I reported an X bug quite some time ago that was similar to this one; it had to do with X acting incorrectly on XDrawImageString, which you use to draw the background and foreground simultaneously. This operation blew up when the font ascent and descent were 0 (Sun's X server assumes that the ascent and descent should be calculated from the bounding box in this case -- I think this is the correct fix for the bug). Check the ascent/descent in the font source and insure that it matches the bounding box. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:20:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA26331 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:20:46 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA26325 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:20:45 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00252; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:15:04 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509061715.KAA00252@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse with FreeBSD 2.0.5-R To: john@starfire.mn.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:15:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199509061314.IAA25223@starfire.mn.org> from "john@starfire.mn.org" at Sep 6, 95 08:14:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 452 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > OK, I just config'ed in the PS/2 mouse, and now the keyboard > doesn't work. I checked the FAQ, and it has a question, but no > answer! Is there a doc file hiding somewhere? There are options for handling this that you can stick in your config. Look at the keyboard and PS/2 drivers to see what they are. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:25:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA27954 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:25:53 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA27907 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:25:51 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00271; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:19:41 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509061719.KAA00271@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Pcemu problems..please help To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:19:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509061348.XAA26838@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Sep 6, 95 11:18:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 683 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > emulator ....Is it possible to access a novell 3.12 or 4.1 network > > through the emulator, and if so is there anything out of the ordinary > > that I have to do to get this to work...? > > Totally impossible. Nope. But a lot of work. The way to do it is to have the IPX and IPX routing loaded on the BSD box. Then you write an driver that traps to the local stack and presents as another "card" on the internal network as far as the router is concerned. Then you load whatever pieces (varys by version) that consumes IPX drivers. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:26:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA29259 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:26:58 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA29242 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:26:57 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14935(4)>; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:26:23 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177475>; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:26:18 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: Julian Elischer cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multicast on ep0 device In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 95 19:57:13 PDT." <199509060257.TAA02686@ref.tfs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:26:11 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Sep6.102618pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199509060257.TAA02686@ref.tfs.com> you write: >I had the impression that you don't actually need mcast support unless you are >planning on sending it around your local net as a multicast.. At the moment, this is not true; you need one physical multicast-capable interface. Anders Klemets, a summer intern at PARC, has some modifications that will make this no longer true (but need more testing so far =) And, the question was about using the tools on a machine which was on a subnet that already had a multicast router on it, not about using them on a machine which was the multicast router... Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:32:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA05955 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:32:42 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA05930 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:32:41 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14645(5)>; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:32:03 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177475>; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:31:50 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: bah6f@server.cs.virginia.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vat won't work (was: "multicast on ep0 device") In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 95 21:11:59 PDT." <9509060411.AA21426@viper.cs.Virginia.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:31:39 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Sep6.103150pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <9509060411.AA21426@viper.cs.Virginia.EDU> you write: >vat is now a pinprick in my posterior, the others work fine. > >If someone has vat running succesfully on a pentium, I'd love to hear >about the configuration and what hardware you're using. I run vat with 'vmix' on a Gravis Ultrasound, and it works. 'vmix' sits in between 'vat' and the audio device, and eliminates problems like the audio-device hang you were seeing. However, AFAIK, vmix requires a full duplex sound card like the GUS. Jim said he was working on a mode that would let half-duplex sound cards work, but I don't know if he has it working yet. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:38:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA11683 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:38:18 -0700 Received: from cithe502.cithep.caltech.edu (cithe502.cithep.caltech.edu [131.215.124.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA11677 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:38:16 -0700 Received: by cithe502.cithep.caltech.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA45154; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:37:54 -0700 From: shih@cithe502.cithep.caltech.edu (Ching Shih) Message-Id: <9509061737.AA45154@cithe502.cithep.caltech.edu> Subject: PCMCIA SCSI under 2.x? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:37:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 169 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Could someone advise me if any PCMCIA SCSI card will be supported under 2.x? (e.g. Adaptec SlimSCSI, APA-1460) Thanks! Ching Shih@cithe502.cithep.caltech.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:39:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA12205 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:39:52 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA12178 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:39:48 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00314; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:34:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509061734.KAA00314@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: IPX/Netware 4? To: swaits@pr.erau.edu (Stephen Waits) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:34:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Waits" at Sep 6, 95 07:33:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1458 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Is anyone working on IPX and/or a Netware 4.x client for FreeBSD? Server? IPX patches were posted a while back. They are on tape at home somewhere and I'm sure they are in the list archives. The client is relatively easy compared to the server, and the client isn't that easy. I noticed you specified 4.x. You would have to reverse engineer packet signatures and the directory services login. It took 10 mathematicians at Microsoft a year to do that... makes sense, it's all based on RSA. Or you'd have to use bindery emulation and turn of packet signatures on the server. On the server, you'd have to implement ~1500 API's. That's what we had to do at Novell when we implemented NetWare for UNIX. Or you could implement the minimum number of API's, maybe by watching an NT server handle NT and Win95 NetWare client requests to see the subset of NCP's they actually implemented. Or you could license the Puzzle systems code and port it. It uses the BPF and is NetWare 3.11 compatible (no packet burst, no packet signatures, bindery only). Or you could license NWU from Novell and port it. Last I heard, cost on licensing was: $100,000 NUC, the NetWare UNIX Client $150,000 NWU, the NetWare for UNIX Server $250,000 NUC, NWU, and UnixWare (hmmmm... I wonder where the value in UnixWare is) Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 10:48:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA15288 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:48:28 -0700 Received: from icess.ucsb.edu (crseo-gw.ucsb.edu [128.111.254.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA15282 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:48:26 -0700 Received: from tienshan.crseo.ucsb.edu by icess.ucsb.edu (8.6.11/SMI-8.6-Icess) id KAA17790; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:48:19 -0700 Received: by tienshan.crseo.ucsb.edu (5.65v3.2/Crseo-Client-2.0) id AA20971; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:50:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Konnoff Subject: dec pc 433slc premium and freebsd 2.0.5 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I am having trouble getting the kernal to see a Xircom pocket ethernet adapter attached to the parallel port lpt0. I booted with the -c flag and turned off extraneous devices with no effect. Can anybody help with this problem? thanks in advance! Daniel Konnoff Programmer/Analyst Institute for Computational Earth System Science 6832 Ellison Hall UC Santa Barbara Santa Barbara, Ca. 93106 daniel@icess.ucsb.edu 805/893-7364 fax 805/893-2578 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 11:06:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA18438 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:06:28 -0700 Received: from wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.40.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18081 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:04:00 -0700 Received: from wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.40.2]) by wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id UAA25907 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:02:05 +0200 Received: (from marc@localhost) by wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.6.10/8.6.10) id UAA10110 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:02:42 +0200 From: Marc Binderberger Message-Id: <199509061802.UAA10110@wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Subject: FreeBSD != 4.4BSD ??? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:02:42 +0200 (MESZ) Reply-To: marc@Physik.Uni-Wuerzburg.DE (Marc Binderberger) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1250 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, up to now I understood FreeBSD 2.x as an implementation of 4.4BSD (light) on PC based hardware. Hmm... I'm irritated by the following article Eric Allman wrote about the possibility to overload the internal syslog buffer: [Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail, Message-ID: <427sc8$4q6@agate.berkeley.edu>] [...] THE REAL PROBLEM IS NOT IN SENDMAIL AND IS ARGUABLY NOT IN SYSLOG. The real problem is in sprintf and vsprintf. We learned way back with the Internet Worm that routines that write a buffer without taking a buffer size (in that case, gets) are a bad idea, but except for 4.4BSD, no one seems to have figured out that sprintf (and vsprintf) are included in this list. [...] So I expected to have no such problems. But a look into the sources (I'm using FreeBSD 2.1.0-950726-SNAP) and a small test program (just logging 16k of `x' ... core!) tells me that I must have something misunderstood. Seems that FreeBSD isn't produced totally out of the 4.4BSD Sources? Or do I over-interpret Eric's article? Explanations? Comments? Regards, Marc. -- Marc Binderberger Institut fuer Theoretische Physik I marc@Physik.Uni-Wuerzburg.DE Am Hubland, 97074 Wuerzburg, Germany sciene is mistake up to date From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 11:52:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA09006 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:52:03 -0700 Received: from healer.com (healer-gw.Empire.Net [205.164.80.204]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA08927 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:51:47 -0700 Received: (from gryphon@localhost) by healer.com (8.6.11/8.6.9.1) id OAA11836 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:54:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:54:39 -0400 From: Coranth Gryphon Message-Id: <199509061854.OAA11836@healer.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Known working ethernet cards Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I need a known-working reliable ethernet card for FreeBSD 2.x (2.0.5 and higher). I have been told the SMC Elite Ultra is no longer in production. The replacement model is the SMC Ether-EZ #8416. Does anyone know if this card works well (ie. very stable) with the "ed" driver? If not, is there another known stable ISA 16-bit combo ethernet card (shared memory prefered) that works with the "ed" driver? Please send to me directly, as I do not read "freebsd-questions". Thanx. -coranth ------------------------------------------+------------------------+ Coranth Gryphon | "Faith Manages." | | - Satai Delenn | Phone: 603-598-3440 Fax: 603-598-3430 +------------------------+ USMail: 11 Carver St, Nashua, NH 03060 Disclaimer: All these words are yours, except Europa... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 12:06:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA14364 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:06:08 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA14328 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:06:05 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA07519; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:00:36 -0500 Message-Id: <9509061900.AA07519@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:00:36 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: gryphon@healer.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Known working ethernet cards Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Hi. I need a known-working reliable ethernet card for FreeBSD 2.x >(2.0.5 and higher). > >I have been told the SMC Elite Ultra is no longer in production. >The replacement model is the SMC Ether-EZ #8416. > >Does anyone know if this card works well (ie. very stable) >with the "ed" driver? > >If not, is there another known stable ISA 16-bit combo ethernet card >(shared memory prefered) that works with the "ed" driver? > >Please send to me directly, as I do not read "freebsd-questions". I have an SMC Ether-EZ (8416) installed on a FreeBSD machine that has been working flawlessly for a few months. My only disappointment was having to use the DOS utility provided with the card to set the IRQ, IO memory address, etc. - our FreeBSD machine had no DOS/Windows on it and we had to take apart another machine in order to confgure the card. I had expected this card to have 16K of RAM, but it only has 8K. I haven't performed any timing tests to see if this affects performance. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 12:32:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA22977 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:32:32 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA22956 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:32:30 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05405; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:22:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:22:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Don's FList drop" To: Ollivier Robert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Booboo in Boca multiport card HOWTO In-Reply-To: <199509022146.XAA06685@keltia.frmug.fr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, Ollivier Robert wrote: > It seems that Don's FList drop said: > > Small change but an important one : > > > (from the FAQ) > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > > cp GENERIC MYKERNEL > > vi MYKERNEL (this is the point where you make the changes indicated) > > config MYKERNEL > > cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL > > make depend > > > make all > > make install > > reboot Hmmm. I stole that section right off the FAQ in /usr/share/FAQ/Text/FreeBSD.FAQ in the 2.0.5 distribution. I've been complining kernels here w/o using that, but perhaps I haven't made any related changes..... Hmmmm.... Not reassuring - I just ran it for my most recent kernel, and it didn't immediately pass. Wonder what side effects I might be seeing as a result of failing to do this? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 12:33:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA23510 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:33:16 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA23499 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:33:15 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA26596 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:33:04 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA03561; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:29:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA26488; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:31:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199509061931.MAA26488@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Daniel M. Eischen" cc: gryphon@healer.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Known working ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Sep 95 14:00:36 CDT." <9509061900.AA07519@iworks.InterWorks.org> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 12:31:22 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I have an SMC Ether-EZ (8416) installed on a FreeBSD machine that has >been working flawlessly for a few months. My only disappointment was >having to use the DOS utility provided with the card to set the IRQ, >IO memory address, etc. - our FreeBSD machine had no DOS/Windows on it >and we had to take apart another machine in order to confgure the card. > >I had expected this card to have 16K of RAM, but it only has 8K. I >haven't performed any timing tests to see if this affects performance. Unfortunately, the multi-buffering technique that is used in the transmit portion of the device driver is effectively disabled when the card has only 8k of RAM. This is necessary in order to provide maximum receive buffering. This will likely reduce max transmit performance to around 600-700K/second. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 12:58:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA08415 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:58:16 -0700 Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA08406 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:58:14 -0700 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA12370; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:57:25 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199509061957.MAA12370@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD != 4.4BSD ??? To: marc@Physik.Uni-Wuerzburg.DE Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509061802.UAA10110@wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> from "Marc Binderberger" at Sep 6, 95 08:02:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 748 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > So I expected to have no such problems. But a look into the sources > (I'm using FreeBSD 2.1.0-950726-SNAP) and a small test program (just > logging 16k of `x' ... core!) tells me that I must have something > misunderstood. Seems that FreeBSD isn't produced totally out of the > 4.4BSD Sources? Or do I over-interpret Eric's article? This doesn't answer your question, but FreeBSD 2.0.5 does include the functions snprintf() vsnprintf() which are to sprintf() like strncpy() is to strcpy(). Is this what Eric is talking about? Perhaps someone just needs to add a patch. -Archie _______________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@tribe.com * Tribe Computer Works http://www.tribe.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 13:11:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA15522 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:11:54 -0700 Received: from mrblue.cmq.qc.ca (mrblue.cmq.qc.ca [204.19.130.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA15483 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:11:48 -0700 Received: from cmq.qc.ca (204.19.130.21) by mrblue.cmq.qc.ca with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:12:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 16:10:23 -0400 From: LPPelletier@cmq.qc.ca (Luc Pelletier) Organization: Club Macintosh de Quebec Subject: Root boot diskette To: jmb@kryten.atinc.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <2217279.ensmtp@cmq.qc.ca> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, It's Luc again, the guy who lost his root password. So far, I have a boot disquette that leaves me in a shell (with root privileges). Now, I just wanna mount my scsi disk to edit /etc/passwd. My FreeBSD partition is installed on my second scsi drive. If I let my system boot normally from the second drive, I have two lines (among many other ones) that looks like /dev/rsd1a: clean, 27120 free ... /dev/rsd1s1e: clean, 20508 free ... On the other hand, my /etc/fstab file looks like this : /dev/sd1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd1s1e /usr ufs... On my boot disquette, I have the device rds1a and sd1a present in the /dev directory. Once booted, I tried the command mount /dev/rsd1a /mnt but I got the message Block device required I also tried the same command with the sd1a device but I got the message Device not configured. What did I do wrong? -Lpp From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 13:16:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA17145 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:16:13 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA17117 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:16:11 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA11865; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:14:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA26538; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:16:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199509062016.NAA26538@corbin.Root.COM> To: marc@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Marc Binderberger) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD != 4.4BSD ??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Sep 95 20:02:42 +0200." <199509061802.UAA10110@wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 13:16:50 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >up to now I understood FreeBSD 2.x as an implementation of 4.4BSD (light) >on PC based hardware. Hmm... I'm irritated by the following article >Eric Allman wrote about the possibility to overload the internal >syslog buffer: > >[Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail, Message-ID: <427sc8$4q6@agate.berkeley.edu>] > [...] > THE REAL PROBLEM IS NOT IN SENDMAIL AND IS ARGUABLY NOT IN SYSLOG. > The real problem is in sprintf and vsprintf. We learned way back > with the Internet Worm that routines that write a buffer without > taking a buffer size (in that case, gets) are a bad idea, but except > for 4.4BSD, no one seems to have figured out that sprintf (and > vsprintf) are included in this list. > [...] > >So I expected to have no such problems. But a look into the sources >(I'm using FreeBSD 2.1.0-950726-SNAP) and a small test program (just >logging 16k of `x' ... core!) tells me that I must have something >misunderstood. Seems that FreeBSD isn't produced totally out of the >4.4BSD Sources? Or do I over-interpret Eric's article? Well, as one of the two people who did the initial port of 4.4-Lite that became FreeBSD 2.x, I can say most certainly that FreeBSD _is_ based on 4.4BSD-Lite as released from Berkeley. I don't know what Eric was talking about, but I'm sure there is a simple misunderstanding. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 13:23:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA20342 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:23:14 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA20257 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:22:59 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id QAA24462; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:12:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:12:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Root boot diskette To: Luc Pelletier cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <2217279.ensmtp@cmq.qc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, Luc Pelletier wrote: > > mount /dev/rsd1a /mnt > > but I got the message right! rsd1a is the raw disk, a character device > Block device required mea culpa. i left sd1 out of the kernel, i will build a new kernel tonight and upload it to kryten for you. sorry about this. please give me a list of devices that you need. > I also tried the same command with the sd1a device but I got the > message Device not configured. > > What did I do wrong? -Lpp my fault. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 14:00:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA23041 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:00:35 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23026 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:00:33 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00331; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:00:09 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509062100.OAA00331@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Root boot diskette To: jmb@kryten.atinc.com (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: LPPelletier@cmq.qc.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Sep 6, 95 04:12:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1172 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, Luc Pelletier wrote: > > > > mount /dev/rsd1a /mnt > > > > but I got the message > > right! rsd1a is the raw disk, a character device > > > Block device required > > mea culpa. i left sd1 out of the kernel, i will build a new kernel > tonight and upload it to kryten for you. sorry about this. please give > me a list of devices that you need. > > > I also tried the same command with the sd1a device but I got the > > message Device not configured. > > > > What did I do wrong? -Lpp > > my fault. you shouldn't need to config more sd devices.. sd devices are supposed to be (they uesed to be) dynamically assigned.. If not we've broken something... what does the dmesg show? (try using the scroll-lock/scroll-back feaure to see the message after it's gone past) > more likely, let us see what sd devices are in /dev > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. > FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy > play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 > ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 14:06:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA23319 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:06:29 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23311 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:06:27 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA27593; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 06:44:01 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509062114.GAA27593@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Pcemu problems..please help To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 06:44:01 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509061719.KAA00271@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Sep 6, 95 10:19:41 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 839 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > > emulator ....Is it possible to access a novell 3.12 or 4.1 network > > > through the emulator, and if so is there anything out of the ordinary > > > that I have to do to get this to work...? > > > > Totally impossible. > > Nope. But a lot of work. Pedant 8) The question was "can I load my Novell drivers in Pcemu and access my/our/the Novell network", to which the answer is no. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 14:09:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA23419 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:09:00 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23382 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:08:56 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA27612; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 06:46:40 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509062116.GAA27612@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: IPX/Netware 4? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 06:46:39 +0930 (CST) Cc: swaits@pr.erau.edu, questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509061734.KAA00314@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Sep 6, 95 10:34:20 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 683 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > Or you could license NWU from Novell and port it. Is this the infamous "portable netware"? I'd heard that it was an extreme crock, but you know how rumours are. Given the pricing you've listed, it would be an _expensive_ extreme crock. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 14:13:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA23563 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:13:09 -0700 Received: from shell.monmouth.com (shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23554 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:13:08 -0700 Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA05028; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 17:15:35 -0400 From: Pechter Message-Id: <199509062115.RAA05028@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: Re: I'm looking for Motif for FreeBSD. To: deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 17:15:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <9509061256.AA06426@iworks.InterWorks.org> from "Daniel M. Eischen" at Sep 6, 95 07:56:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 456 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >3.1: Where can I get Motif for FreeBSD? > > > >You can purchase Motif 1.2.3 for FreeBSD (SWiM) from the ACC Bookstore, > >P.O. Box 3364, Westport CT. 06880. 1-800-546-7274 or FAX: 1-203-454-2582 > > It's actually Motif 2.0 for FreeBSD 2.0 and works for me with all FreeBSD > versions up to -stable. You can probably still purchase Motif 1.2.3 from > them also. > There's also a port called Moo-Tiff coming from Lasermoon and Infomgic coming out. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 14:25:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA23819 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:25:44 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23813 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:25:31 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id XAA06339 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:24:55 +0200 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id XAA17425 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:24:54 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.Freenix.FR (8.7.Beta.13/keltia-uucp-2.4) id WAA07189; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:33:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199509062033.WAA07189@keltia.Freenix.FR> Subject: Re: Booboo in Boca multiport card HOWTO To: freelist@elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (Don's FList drop) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:33:47 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: roberto@keltia.Freenix.FR (Ollivier Robert) In-Reply-To: from "Don's FList drop" at Sep 6, 95 03:22:53 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1071 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a+] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Don's FList drop said: > Hmmm. I stole that section right off the FAQ in > /usr/share/FAQ/Text/FreeBSD.FAQ in the 2.0.5 distribution. I've been > complining kernels here w/o using that, but perhaps I haven't made > any related changes..... Hmmmm.... If you stay at 2.0.5-RELEASE *and* you destroy ../../compile/WHATEVER anytime you config a kernel file, it should work. If you're current or using "-n" to config your kernel, then you'll have problem anytime someone add something to conf.c or when you add a driver. > Not reassuring - I just ran it for my most recent kernel, and it didn't > immediately pass. Wonder what side effects I might be seeing as a result > of failing to do this? The kernel could stop compile if your in the base above because of broken dependancies. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia 2.2-CURRENT #17: Sun Sep 3 20:59:24 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 14:33:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA24017 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:33:03 -0700 Received: from server.netcraft.co.uk (server.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA24002 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 14:33:00 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by server.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA02027 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:32:56 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199509062132.WAA02027@server.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: WEb server usage To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:32:55 +0100 (BST) Reply-to: paul@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 583 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Someone posted a while back that the mac web server was popular and I countered that with some figures about what servers actually were most widely used. I hinted I had a reliable source, well, that source is now online, check out http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey, which is a query of 24,000 sites to see what servers they're running. There's even a form that let's you query a particular host to see what it's running. -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 15:06:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA25022 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:06:48 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA25016 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:06:43 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00926; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:00:44 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509062200.PAA00926@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Pcemu problems..please help To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:00:44 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509062114.GAA27593@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Sep 7, 95 06:44:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1026 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > emulator ....Is it possible to access a novell 3.12 or 4.1 network > > > > through the emulator, and if so is there anything out of the ordinary > > > > that I have to do to get this to work...? > > > > > > Totally impossible. > > > > Nope. But a lot of work. > > Pedant 8) The question was "can I load my Novell drivers in Pcemu > and access my/our/the Novell network", to which the answer is no. Well, no, you can't load the existing drivers. It's actualy PCSIMU. 8-). You could write replacement drivers. If you take the NetBSD hacks for DOSEMU, and you run it, and you have a card that is specifically not probed (an extra ethernet card) and you load your dirvers, then that'd work too. That's a lot more work that writing a driver to trap PCEMU network interrupts to another simulator running in BSD, IMO. Either way, it's probably more pain than it's worth. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 15:54:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA25930 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:54:45 -0700 Received: from iii1.iii.net (iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA25924 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:54:43 -0700 Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA09198 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:54:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:54:22 -0400 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199509062254.SAA09198@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Network Submasks w/ ethernet and slip Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've been running FreeBSD 2.0.5 with a SLIP connection for a couple of weeks. I recently setup an ethernet network and am running TCP/IP over it, but would like to connect it to the internet. So, here's what I have/know: My SLIP connection is sl0, and this is what ifconfig sl0 returns sl0: flags=9011 mtu 552 inet 199.232.44.242 --> 199.232.46.9 netmask 0xffffff00 I know that my network card is a DEC Etherworks/3 205 on le0 I have the following IP addresses: 199.232.44.242 my normal SLIP IP address 199.232.46.9 my default router 199.232.40.3 my default name server 199.232.40.4 my secondary name server 199.232.47.48 my network address 255.255.255.240 my subnet mask 199.232.47.63 my broadcast address 199.232.47.49-62 my host addresses How can I set this up so TCP/IP can flow properly between sl0 and le0? Thanks in advance. -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 15:55:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA25964 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:55:01 -0700 Received: from wdl1.wdl.loral.com (wdl1.wdl.loral.com [137.249.32.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA25954 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:54:59 -0700 Received: from miles.sso.loral.com (miles.wdl.loral.com) by wdl1.wdl.loral.com (5.x/WDL-2.4-1.0) id AA24799; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:54:28 -0700 Received: by miles.sso.loral.com (4.1/SSO-SUN-2.04) id AA03939; Wed, 6 Sep 95 18:54:27 EDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:54:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Toren X-Sender: rpt@miles To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cyrix - mis-id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Folks, I just say a message about a shortcomming of the Cyrix processor. That made me think about an oddity when I boot. The boot messages start out: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Sep 4 13:27:24 EDT 1995 rpt@dragon:/usr/src/sys/compile/DRAGON2 CPU: Cy486DLC (486-class CPU) Origin = "Cyrix" But the chip is not a Cyrix, and does have an fpu! Are there any special actions taken because of the DLC designation? I can't find a manufacturers name on the chip, but it does have the phrase "it's 486" in an italic script that looks alot like that used in the Inovative Technology ads. ==================================================== Rip Toren | The bad news is that C++ is not an object-oriented | rpt@miles.sso.loral.com | programming language. .... The good news is that | | C++ supports object-oriented programming. | | C++ Programming & Fundamental Concepts | | by Anderson & Heinze | ==================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 15:55:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA26000 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:55:15 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA25993 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:55:12 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id RAA30418; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 17:46:49 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA02387; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:43:21 GMT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:43:21 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ghostscript and HP Laserjet II In-Reply-To: <9509061238.AA07458@atuhc16.aut.alcatel.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > When I print tiff2ps files using gs configured for laserjet, the output is > > cropped by about 25 pixels on the top and 50 pixels on the right margin. > > GhostScript's printer drivers have an internal notion of margins. They crop > off everything that falls out of them. I had to reduce right margin on my > installation in order not to lose some page space. How did you go about doing this? > > The top margin is probably reduced because gs believes that you use different > paper size than the one required by .ps file. It always tries to align > bottom margin right. If the file requires a4, you will have to specify > PAPERSIZE=a4 on gs command line. > I added PAPERSIZE=a4 to unix-lpr.sh but nothing changed. > > I know the complete image is contained in the Postscript file because I can > > see it using gs in my X display. > > > If tried a number of things but I am unable to solve the problem. Please > > help! > > It would have helped have you enumeratd the things you have tried. I tried playing around with the resolution, page size, and pixel density on tiff2ps and gs commands. I did manage to get a good printout only after I changed the following line (16) directly in the Postscript file: %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 %%Creator: tiff2ps %%Title: fax000142 %%CreationDate: Tue Sep 5 21:40:54 1995 %%Origin: 0 0 %%BoundingBox: 0 0 610 791 %%Pages: (atend) %%EndComments %%Page: 1 1 gsave 100 dict begin 609.882324 790.530640 scale %ImageData: 1728 1076 1 1 0 1 2 "image" /scanLine 216 string def 1728 1076 1 [1728 0 0 -1076 0 1076] ---> changed to [1728 0 -50 -1100 0 1076] {currentfile scanLine readhexstring pop} bind image ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 16:06:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA26635 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:06:38 -0700 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu (holodeck.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA26623 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:06:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199509062306.QAA26623@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from hagnew.campus.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.12/16.2) id TAA25464; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:06:24 -0400 X-Sender: hagnew@mail.vt.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 19:05:41 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: h jared agnew Subject: current Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk i have been told that the current is only source code, if this is true, and I dont have freebsd up how do I get the current support for freebsd if this is not true please write and tell what is the directory at freebsd.org when ftp'ing thanks jared agnew ECLIPSE SOFTWARE From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 16:11:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA27037 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:11:15 -0700 Received: from w8hd2.w8hd.org (w8hd2.w8hd.org [198.252.159.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA27031 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:11:13 -0700 Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.11]) by w8hd2.w8hd.org (8.6.12/w8hd2) with SMTP id TAA26948 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:09:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:09:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Coranth Gryphon cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Known working ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <199509061854.OAA11836@healer.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, Coranth Gryphon wrote: > Hi. I need a known-working reliable ethernet card for FreeBSD 2.x > (2.0.5 and higher). > > I have been told the SMC Elite Ultra is no longer in production. > The replacement model is the SMC Ether-EZ #8416. The smc EtherCard PLUS aka Elite16 Combo works fine for a reasonable price. kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 16:13:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA27111 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:13:08 -0700 Received: from virginia.edu (uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA27105 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:13:07 -0700 Received: from server.cs.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa20276; 6 Sep 95 19:13 EDT Received: from agate.cs.Virginia.EDU by uvacs.cs.virginia.edu (4.1/5.1.UVA) id AA15710; Wed, 6 Sep 95 19:13:05 EDT Posted-Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by agate.cs.Virginia.EDU (4.1/SMI-2.0) id AA20748; Wed, 6 Sep 95 19:13:04 EDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:13:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: multi-posrt I/O cards? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk He everyone, Can some one recommend a multi-port card and source? I am having difficulty finding any of them in the Computer Shopper indices. I am looking for a 4 port card. With 16550a's of course. thanks, Adrian adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| Support your local programmer, http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~atf3r/ --->>>| STOP Software Patent Abuses NOW! Member: The League for -->>| info at ftp.uu.net:/doc/lpf, print Programming Freedom ->| "join.ps.Z" for an application From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 16:27:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA27588 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:27:18 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA27569 ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:27:15 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA01087; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:20:48 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509062320.QAA01087@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: IPX/Netware 4? To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:20:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, swaits@pr.erau.edu, questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509062116.GAA27612@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Sep 7, 95 06:46:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1374 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Or you could license NWU from Novell and port it. > > Is this the infamous "portable netware"? I'd heard that it was an extreme > crock, but you know how rumours are. Given the pricing you've listed, it > would be an _expensive_ extreme crock. I was personally involved in both the NWU and NUC implementations. I'll say that NUC was not a happy camper if you were using it on a multiuser machine as opposed to a single user desktop. I think you could fix this by expanding the in core credentials structure and integrating the directory services login into the UNIX login, but it would be special case. NUC is the same NetWare client software one uses on NeXT machines and UnixWare. The NWU implementation beat the Native NetWare on identical hardware up to 128 users. It started running out of processor at that point because of particulars of the STREAMS implementation that they would not let me correct and because of ODI driver latency that they forced on UnixWare. One of my fondest memories of my time at Novell is the look that was on Drew Major's face when we presented our performance graphs and explained that the higher line was our server when he commented about the performance being "not quite there yet". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 16:38:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA27972 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:38:49 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA27962 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:38:47 -0700 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA22369; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:38:37 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id TAA18067; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:38:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:38:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: h jared agnew cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current In-Reply-To: <199509062306.QAA26623@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, h jared agnew wrote: > i have been told that the current is only source code, if this is true, and > I dont have freebsd up how do I get the current support for freebsd if this > is not true please write and tell what is the directory at freebsd.org when > ftp'ing > thanks > jared agnew ECLIPSE SOFTWARE > > You do this by not starting off with current. Let me say it unambiguously, you can't boot from current, unless you happen to have a next door neighbor who's a core team member. You get one of the standard sets, either from the 2.0.5 cdrom, or one of the various SNAPs, and boot from that. To get from there to current, you get the current sources using either ctm or sup, then you go into single user and make world. Before you reboot after the make world, you build yourself a new kernel from the same current sources, install it, then reboot. Result -- a current system. I think that this really is too daunting to do without at least some experience with FreeBSD first. Build a couple kernels with your cdrom or SNAP level system, get used to it, and be successful at it. Build world with that level system, and survive it. Make a doubel handfull of ports, get used to fielding some small problems. Maybe that last will be hard to do -- ports is _way_ better than it used to be. Go download all the FAQs, read them, install some level of FreeBSD, and play with it. When you're ready to upgrade, you'll get all the help you need, right here. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 16:47:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA28330 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:47:22 -0700 Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA28324 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:47:21 -0700 Received: from RANDY by vellocet.insync.net (SAA00009); Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:43:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:43:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199509062343.SAA00009@vellocet.insync.net> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: setsid() saves the day... Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I had posted a message awhile ago about a problem getting a program to stay up when run from rc.local. It would start, then die as soon as rc.local finished. I stuck a 'ps ax' at the end of rc.local, and the process showed stat of S+ (+ evidently indicating that the process was associated with the foreground session). Hmmmmm..... 'apropos session' setsid? 'man setsid' Exactly what I was looking for! I stuck "sid = setsid();" in the first part of main, and it works great! Just thought I would pass this along. Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm caught in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 19:39:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA04910 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:39:14 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA04901 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:39:11 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id VAA04293; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 21:30:45 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA03763; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:38:33 GMT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:38:33 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Slip - dilemma (Can't use PPP) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We are trying to set up a remote FreeBSD system which will connect (via modems) to an HP-UX 9.0 host. We want to establish a net link between the two which will re-establish itself on demand and in background if the link goes down. The problem is that I would like to use iijppp for simplicity but the HP machine is only configured for SLIP. Has someone out there set up an auto connect script using slattach that works similar to iijppp's auto feature. If any one can assist me in any way, it would be greatly appreciated. btw, can "chat" be used in conjunction with "slattach"? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 20:24:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA06526 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:24:59 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA06520 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:24:52 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA28261; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:02:09 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509070332.NAA28261@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Cyrix - mis-id To: rpt@miles.sso.loral.com (Richard Toren) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:02:09 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Toren" at Sep 6, 95 06:54:26 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 913 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Richard Toren stands accused of saying: > FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Sep 4 13:27:24 EDT 1995 > rpt@dragon:/usr/src/sys/compile/DRAGON2 > CPU: Cy486DLC (486-class CPU) > Origin = "Cyrix" > > But the chip is not a Cyrix, and does have an fpu! Are there any special > actions taken because of the DLC designation? The probe calls it a cy486DLC because it can't identify it, not because it thinks that it's positively ID'd the chip as a DLC. > Rip Toren | The bad news is that C++ is not an object-oriented | -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 21:15:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA07761 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 21:15:39 -0700 Received: from bravo.imagi.net (bravo.imagi.net [204.157.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA07755 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 21:15:36 -0700 Received: from ip134.imagi.net (ip134.imagi.net [204.157.4.134]) by bravo.imagi.net (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA03322 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:24:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:24:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199509070424.UAA03322@bravo.imagi.net> X-Sender: corellg@mail.imagi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: corellg@imagi.net (Gary B. Corell) Subject: list Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk list quit From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 21:38:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA09085 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 21:38:19 -0700 Received: from bravo.imagi.net (bravo.imagi.net [204.157.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA09070 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 21:38:14 -0700 Received: from ip134.imagi.net (ip134.imagi.net [204.157.4.134]) by bravo.imagi.net (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA03543 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:47:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:47:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199509070447.UAA03543@bravo.imagi.net> X-Sender: corellg@mail.imagi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: corellg@imagi.net (Gary B. Corell) Subject: list&info Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk list info quit From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 22:40:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA15476 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:40:34 -0700 Received: from telekom.com.my (telekom.com.my [192.228.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA15432 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:40:31 -0700 Received: from telekom1.telekom.com.my ([192.228.240.34]) by telekom1.telekom.com.my (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07315; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:36:31 +0800 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:36:31 +0800 Message-Id: <9509070536.AA07315@telekom1.telekom.com.my> X-Sender: sckhoo@telekom.com.my X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Khoo Swee Chuan Subject: monitor not configured properly Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi, I hope you don't mind a newbies' question. I have a Fujitsu ICL ErgoPro ( Pentium ) with a Fujitsu ICl ErgoPro 141v SVGA monitor. I wanted to install the FreeBSD to it using CDROM from Creative. SO far I can make a bootable diskette using makeflp.bat and can be booted. But the problem is half way thro booting, the monitor seems like having sync problem with the program. The question is how can I change the monitor setting or change the BSD's setting to suit each other. Thanx and have a nice day. rgds, sc khoo From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 23:04:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA25902 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:04:38 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA25880 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:04:34 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA04496 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:04:29 +0200 Message-Id: <199509070604.IAA04496@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: modem (results) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 08:04:27 +0200 From: "Christophe Fiorio, LIRMM 67-41-85-78" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Some time ago I asked a question about what 28.8K external fax modem use for a PPP connection with FreeBSD. Her are a resume of the responses I receive : The most used (no doubt, many more responses as the others) is : USRobotics 28.8 sportster behind we have : USR Courier Microcom DeskPorte FAST 28.8kbps I was suprised to not receive any response about the suprafaxmodem. I forward you a post found in comp.dcom.modems about it. What do you think. Really nobody use it ? Subject: SupraFaxModem 28.8 Best all-around modem - comp.dcom.modems #58578 In article , dkakanov@midway.uchicago.edu (Dana Akanova) writes: |> I am sure that I will get a lot of opposite answers to this post, but |> I must say that after trying out several modems, I have come to the |> conclusion that the Supra is the best all-around modem. The things |> that I was looking for were the following: |> |> 1. Connect Display (LCD or LED-as in Supra) showing current connect |> speed and protocol |> 2. Caller ID |> 3. Flash ROM |> 4. Asymmetric Rates |> 4. Good Technical Support |> 5. Wide User Base |> 6. Reliable fax compatibility |> |> |> The modems that I tested were: |> |> 1. USR Courier V.34 External with 7/5/95 rom (the latest) |> 2. Supra 28.8 V.34 External with 1.202 rom (the latest) |> 3. Practical Peripherals PC288LCD with the 2.62 rom (the latest) |> 4. Microcom DeskPorte Fast V.34 External with 3.3 rom (the latest) |> |> As for the modems, the USR was nice, especially with the 33.6 speed |> (which I actually got at times) but I found my self missing some kind |> of Display on the modem and Caller ID. Sure the modem has a HS led |> but that's for all connections >2400 bps. Now come on, nowadays only |> anthing greater than or equal to 14.4 should be considered high speed. |> Sure you could do an ATI6 command, but you can't do this if you are |> using a slip/ppp connection in Win95. Win95 only reports the initial |> receive speed, which of course could change later on and you wouldn't |> know it. Also, I've heard on FIDOnet that the USR's with the 7/5/95 |> rom has some problems connecting with some fax machines. I am sure |> though that this will be fixed with another flash rom version. But |> until then, what are people supposed to do? I tried looking for old |> flash files, but couldn't find them. |> |> As for the PPI modem, it's greatest asset was the hugh LCD screen. |> However, on Compuserve, tons of people are having problems with using |> WinFAX Pro 4.0 and other fax programs with the 2.62 bios. PPI says |> that they will have a fix soon, but until then, people can't fax |> reliably. Also, since the PPI modem does not have flash rom, you have |> to contact PPI, tell them everything about your modem, wait for them |> to send it out to you, then you have to open your modem ... I think |> flash rom would be beneficial here even if it would raise the cost of |> the modem. Another thing is that the PPI modems do not support |> asymmetric rates (If there are PPI people out there, both Calvin and |> Stan on Compuserve have confirmed this). One last thing, what's |> going to happen to PPI/Hayes? That lifetime warranty won't do you any |> good if the company doesn't exist anymore. |> |> As for the Microcom modem, I was just overall unimpressed with the |> modem. It doesn't tell you on the LCD whether your connection is |> V.34 (although I guess you could guess that by the connect sounds) and |> after you're connected, how do you know what the asymmetric speeds are |> (assuming the modem does support this feature). The at\s command only |> shows one speed -- I assume the receive speed. Also, this modem does |> not support Caller ID just like the USR. I guess you could get the |> DeskPorte Fast+ and pay all that extra money for that feature if you |> really wanted it, but no thanks. The modem is expensive enough as it |> is. |> |> Which brings us to the Supra modem. It supports all those features |> that I listed, although people here will of course note that the flash |> rom does not change the DSP. Well, ok. Other than that, it does do |> pretty well as a modem overall. It has the LED display which does |> tell asymmetric rates, the protocol used, and even when there are |> errors in transmission or receive. Also, their support here on the |> net is good and tons of people have them (which kind of adds force to |> getting Supra to do something if there is something wrong). The modem |> of course has Caller ID and even has the ability to answer the phone |> and tell if there is a fax machine on the other side (I'm not talking |> about adaptive answer here but Silent answer). I think the only other |> modem with this ability is the Zyxel (which I haven't tried yet, but |> their upcoming Supreme model looks good but I expect that to cost |> $$$--even more than a Courier. Heck the Elite 2864 already costs more |> than the Courier). The only down side FOR ME (you of course may want |> to add things here) are that when testing these other modems, it was |> noticeable that they all had higher throughput rates than the Supra on |> 28.8 connects. Things did seem to go faster. I am sure that there |> will be many who say that this is the most important feature, and |> that's okay. But for me, I wanted to have those other features as |> well. |> |> Well, your comments are welcome. Please don't flame me as I am only |> expressing my humble opinion. Yours will differ and that doesn't mean |> either one of us is wrong. One last thing, I didn't try the Motorola |> Power modem just because it doesn't have a display. The display to me |> is very important (why? I guess I am just a visual person who likes |> to know what speed I am connected at). |> |> Thanks for your attention. |> |> David Jenks |> |> Christophe. \\|// \\|// @ o o @ (v o) +--------oOO--( )--OOo--------+--------------oOO--( )--OOo----------------+ | There are two major products that come Christophe Fiorio | out of Berkeley: LSD and BSD UNIX. email: fiorio@lirmm.fr | We don't believe this to be a coincidence. http://www.lirmm.fr/~fiorio | - Andrew Bulhak (acb@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 6 23:45:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA05327 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:45:03 -0700 Received: from opus.touch.net (opus.touch.net [194.77.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA05302 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 23:44:56 -0700 Received: from ns016.munich.netsurf.de (ns016.munich.netsurf.de [194.64.166.16]) by opus.touch.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA06028 via TouchNET for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:49:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199509070649.IAA06028@opus.touch.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: lfstad@tnet.de To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:38:35 +0000 Subject: How to compile a FreeBSD-Kernel Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01DE) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please tell me how to compile a new kernel for FreeBSD 2.0.5. I've got some difficulties to do that. Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 04:05:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA10571 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 04:05:57 -0700 Received: from wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.40.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA10561 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 04:05:53 -0700 Received: from wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.40.2]) by wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA29444; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:04:11 +0200 Received: (from marc@localhost) by wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.6.10/8.6.10) id NAA10434; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:04:49 +0200 From: Marc Binderberger Message-Id: <199509071104.NAA10434@wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Subject: Re: How to compile a FreeBSD-Kernel To: lfstad@tnet.de Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:04:48 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: marc@Physik.Uni-Wuerzburg.DE (Marc Binderberger) In-Reply-To: <199509070649.IAA06028@opus.touch.net> from "lfstad@tnet.de" at Sep 7, 95 08:38:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 685 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! > Please tell me how to compile a new kernel for FreeBSD 2.0.5. I've > got some difficulties to do that. Read section 6 of the FreeBSD FAQ. Or in short form: 6.0.1: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf 6.0.2: cp GENERIC MYKERNEL 6.0.3: vi MYKERNEL 6.0.4: config MYKERNEL 6.0.5: cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL 6.0.6: make all 6.0.7: make install 6.0.8: reboot But may be you have a more specific problem? > Thank you! Regards, Marc. -- Marc Binderberger Institut fuer Theoretische Physik I marc@Physik.Uni-Wuerzburg.DE Am Hubland, 97074 Wuerzburg, Germany sciene is mistake up to date From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 05:24:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA14946 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 05:24:09 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA14940 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 05:24:05 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA29224 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:27:17 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:28:40 +0300 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: * master.passwd busy -- some bug in passwd? * Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There seems to be some bug in passwd -command. It is locking /etc/master.passwd right after I type passwd -command. Coudn't it do it after I have entered my old and new passwd? Seppo BTW: I have 1800 accounts in my FreeBSD 205R. And a lot of users. Going fine so far! With 39 users no problems ... ah ... yes many seem to be idle. Need set autologout and kill idles every night. 3:06pm@itu:~% w 3:06PM up 1 day, 6:52, 39 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.05, 0.03 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT janasko p0 v34.dialup.jyu.f 12:59PM - bin/screen-3.6.2 enrpena p1 cs003.jyu.fi 10:10AM 4:03 -tcsh (tcsh) levanen p2 levanen 11:42AM 1:10 -tcsh (tcsh) orav p3 pit-fiend.pcpub. 2:58PM - tin -r mvsalmen p4 cs102.jyu.fi 1:54PM 1:09 -tcsh (tcsh) milsepp p5 cs058.jyu.fi 8:34AM 5:51 -tcsh (tcsh) eahyytia p6 cs051.jyu.fi 12:08PM 2:50 -tcsh (tcsh) tester p8 cs058.jyu.fi 8:32AM 5:52 -tcsh (tcsh) pisavola p9 cs058.jyu.fi Wed06PM 20:37 -tcsh (tcsh) root pa cs038.jyu.fi 1:58PM 59 -csh (tcsh) ariales pb cs033.jyu.fi Wed06PM 20:38 gopher gopher.jyu.fi zheli pc cs102.jyu.fi 2:54PM - pine -P /usr/local/lib/pine.conf sjikonen pd cs058.jyu.fi 2:46PM - -tcsh (tcsh) tmtahvon pf cs038.jyu.fi 2:35PM 11 -tcsh (tcsh) tester pg cs032.jyu.fi 12:20PM 2:28 pine -P /usr/local/lib/pine.conf tjlahton ph jojo.cs.hut.fi 1:47PM 47 -tcsh (tcsh) ktvahaka pi cs088.jyu.fi 2:52PM - pine -P /usr/local/lib/pine.conf jtheikki pj cs058.jyu.fi Wed04PM 22:06 -tcsh (tcsh) mktuomin pk cs045.jyu.fi 2:02PM - pine -P /usr/local/lib/pine.conf kallio pl zaphod.maccc.jyu 3:06PM - w pjke pm cs058.jyu.fi 2:22PM - talk ievaalam rhsyrjal pn cs032.jyu.fi 2:24PM - -tcsh (tcsh) epkallio po c315c.okl.jyu.fi 2:54PM - -tcsh (tcsh) serimpil pp cs058.jyu.fi 2:23PM - talk askataja tmtervon pq cs030.jyu.fi 2:22PM 7 -tcsh (tcsh) ievaalam pr cs058.jyu.fi 2:22PM - pine -P /usr/local/lib/pine.conf mepulkka ps cs038.jyu.fi 2:20PM - tin -r askataja pu cs058.jyu.fi 2:23PM - talk serimpil mmsyrjal q0 cs003.jyu.fi 2:23PM 4 -tcsh (tcsh) blden q2 golden-naga.pcpu 2:22PM - pine -P /usr/local/lib/pine.conf pmbergha q3 c315e.okl.jyu.fi 2:54PM 1 -tcsh (tcsh) guihein q4 mind-flayer.pcpu 2:26PM - pine -P /usr/local/lib/pine.conf misaunam q5 cs003.jyu.fi 2:27PM 6 -tcsh (tcsh) kjlahtin q6 c315a.okl.jyu.fi 2:54PM - -tcsh (tcsh) vaoksane q7 c315b.okl.jyu.fi 2:54PM 8 -tcsh (tcsh) psraatik q8 c315f.okl.jyu.fi 2:55PM - passwd rhoksane q9 c315g.okl.jyu.fi 2:54PM - -tcsh (tcsh) jmnurmin qa c315h.okl.jyu.fi 2:54PM 2 -tcsh (tcsh) marautio qb c315d.okl.jyu.fi 2:54PM - -tcsh (tcsh) Here top: load averages: 0.14, 0.10, 0.05 15:08:03 120 processes: 1 running, 117 sleeping, 1 stopped, 1 zombie Cpu states: 0.5% user, 0.0% nice, 1.4% system, 1.0% interrupt, 97.1% idle Memory: 38M Act 3260K Inact 7288K Wired 12M Free 100% Swap PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 15365 kallio 28 0 600K 964K run 0:07 3.76% 3.51% top 14633 rhsyrjal 3 0 572K 332K sleep 0:00 0.04% 0.04% tcsh 14739 root 2 0 216K 208K sleep 0:01 0.04% 0.04% telnetd 15192 root 2 0 212K 204K sleep 0:00 0.04% 0.04% telnetd 14646 root 2 0 212K 204K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% telnetd 15344 kallio 18 0 576K 920K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15266 orav 18 0 576K 684K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 14637 serimpil 18 0 572K 528K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 14632 pjke 18 0 580K 408K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 14009 janasko 18 0 588K 344K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 14647 askataja 18 0 572K 332K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15164 kjlahtin 18 0 572K 328K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 99 root 18 0 280K 120K sleep 0:02 0.00% 0.00% cron 13944 janasko 18 0 584K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 13327 tester 18 0 576K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 15158 ktvahaka 18 0 572K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 9118 ariales 18 0 572K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 14477 mktuomin 18 0 572K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 15193 zheli 18 0 572K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 14641 ievaalam 18 0 572K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 14673 blden 18 0 572K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 14740 guihein 18 0 572K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 15316 janasko 10 0 376K 592K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% man 15317 janasko 10 0 496K 196K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 15318 janasko 10 0 504K 136K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 1 root 10 0 368K 68K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% init 15284 orav 3 0 3156K 3008K sleep 0:02 0.00% 0.00% tin 15350 janasko 3 0 588K 936K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15369 kjlahtin 3 0 248K 704K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% passwd 15323 janasko 3 0 228K 572K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% more 15170 rhoksane 3 0 572K 356K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15166 vaoksane 3 0 572K 340K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15162 pmbergha 3 0 572K 336K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15168 hrlassil 3 0 572K 336K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15172 jmnurmin 3 0 572K 336K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15160 epkallio 3 0 572K 332K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 15174 marautio 3 0 572K 332K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 14651 mmsyrjal 3 0 572K 320K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 14764 misaunam 3 0 572K 296K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 14643 mepulkka 3 0 572K 296K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 14639 tmtervon 3 0 572K 296K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 13525 tester 3 0 1300K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 14446 root 3 0 764K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 14300 tjlahton 3 0 584K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 06:07:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA17610 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 06:07:10 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA17602 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 06:07:07 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id IAA22542; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:57:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:57:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: * master.passwd busy -- some bug in passwd? * To: Seppo Kallio cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Seppo Kallio wrote: > I have 1800 accounts in my FreeBSD 205R. And a lot of users. Going fine so > far! With 39 users no problems ... ah ... yes many seem to be idle. Need > set autologout and kill idles every night. try using untamo to get rid of users that fail to logout. from the readme: Untamo is a locally developed daemon which periodically wakes up and logs off idle terminals; it also can deal with multiply-logged in users. It is configurable without recompilation, and features tunable parameters such as maximum allowed idle time, maximum allowable multiple logins, exemption lists, and so on. (Note: session limits do not work at the moment.) We use this program to ensure availability of one of our scarcer resources: terminals. Others may find it useful for different reasons; preventing users from leaving a terminal logged-in and unattended for hours is probably a reasonable security measure. The original posting caused a deluge of mail, as the sources contained references to local include files. This has been fixed by #ifdef'ing the code which applies only locally. This version has been successfully compiled on a Sequent Balance 21000 running Dynix v2.0.6, a CCI 6/32 running 4.3bsd, a DEC VAX-8600 running 4.3bsd, a Gould PowerNode 9080 Running UTX-32 Release 1.3, and and a VAX-11/780 running 4.2bsd. Please address correspondence concerning untamo to "doc" on this machine; the original author has left Purdue, but Craig Norborg (aka "doc") is reasonably familiar with the program. -- Rich Kulawiec, pucc-j!rsk, rsk@j.cc.purdue.edu, rsk@purdue-asc.arpa Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 06:54:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA20330 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 06:54:17 -0700 Received: from mailman.ghgcorp.com ([192.112.219.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA20322 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 06:54:15 -0700 Received: from dialupline25.ghgcorp.com (dialupline25.ghgcorp.com [192.112.219.125]) by mailman.ghgcorp.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA08612 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:55:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:55:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199509071255.HAA08612@mailman.ghgcorp.com> X-Sender: jln@mailman.ghgcorp.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: jln@ghgcorp.com (Joe Nieten) Subject: Disk Geometry Problems Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having trouble installing FreeBSD on a 9 GIG disk ... it keeps having geometry problems. Any suggestions? Joe From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 07:04:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA21060 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:04:50 -0700 Received: from efn.efn.org (efn.org [198.68.17.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA21052 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:04:48 -0700 Received: from garcia.efn.org by efn.efn.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA03902; Thu, 7 Sep 95 07:04:04 PDT Received: from nike.efn.org (garcia.efn.org) by garcia.efn.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27374; Thu, 7 Sep 95 07:04:37 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:05:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney To: "Christophe Fiorio, LIRMM 67-41-85-78" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem (results) In-Reply-To: <199509070604.IAA04496@lirmm.lirmm.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Christophe Fiorio, LIRMM 67-41-85-78 wrote: > Some time ago I asked a question about what 28.8K external fax modem > use for a PPP connection with FreeBSD. Her are a resume of the > responses I receive : > > The most used (no doubt, many more responses as the others) is : > > USRobotics 28.8 sportster > > behind we have : > > USR Courier > > Microcom DeskPorte FAST 28.8kbps > > > I was suprised to not receive any response about the suprafaxmodem. I > forward you a post found in comp.dcom.modems about it. What do you > think. Really nobody use it ? I have a good friend that uses the Supra... and he is pleased with it... he was replacing his Supra v.32bis modem... and if I ever invest in a 28.8k modem it will be supra... one thing I don't like about other modems is how _HUGE_ they can be... the supra is in a very nice and small package and leads it self really well to stacking... like I have a stack of 3 of them... and they are only a total of 4" tall... hope this helps... TTYL.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org Modem/FAX: (503) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 07:25:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA22900 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:25:30 -0700 Received: from txcc.net ([205.218.183.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA22855 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:25:20 -0700 Received: (from litteken@localhost) by txcc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA04595; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:14:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:14:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Litteken To: Seppo Kallio cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: * master.passwd busy -- some bug in passwd? * In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Seppo Kallio wrote: > I have 1800 accounts in my FreeBSD 205R. And a lot of users. Going fine so > far! With 39 users no problems ... ah ... yes many seem to be idle. Need > set autologout and kill idles every night. > > 3:06pm@itu:~% w > 3:06PM up 1 day, 6:52, 39 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.05, 0.03 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > janasko p0 v34.dialup.jyu.f 12:59PM - bin/screen-3.6.2 > enrpena p1 cs003.jyu.fi 10:10AM 4:03 -tcsh (tcsh) > levanen p2 levanen 11:42AM 1:10 -tcsh (tcsh) > orav p3 pit-fiend.pcpub. 2:58PM - tin -r > mvsalmen p4 cs102.jyu.fi 1:54PM 1:09 -tcsh (tcsh) > milsepp p5 cs058.jyu.fi 8:34AM 5:51 -tcsh (tcsh) > eahyytia p6 cs051.jyu.fi 12:08PM 2:50 -tcsh (tcsh) My freebsd system is up but i have found that when someone telnets in it does not add them to the utmp file.. i have tryed makeing the file globaly read and writeable. that did not help.. can someone tell me how to fix this problem? it is on FreeBSD 2.0.5 P100 32meg ram 6gig HD everything else seams to run great.. thanks Todd litteken@txcc.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 07:43:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA00652 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:43:57 -0700 Received: from Relay1.Austria.EU.net (relay1.Austria.EU.net [192.92.138.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA00590 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:43:50 -0700 From: marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at Received: from aut.alcatel.at (dnisun.aut.alcatel.at) by Relay1.Austria.EU.net with SMTP id AA04297 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:43:26 +0200 Received: from atuhc16 by aut.alcatel.at (4.1/SMI-4.1/AAA-1.29/main) id AA25063; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:43:28 +0200 Message-Id: <9509071443.AA25063@atuhc16.aut.alcatel.at> Received: by atuhc16 (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA12013; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:43:21 +0200 Subject: Re: Ghostscript and HP Laserjet II To: rjbproc@vir.com (Robert Burns) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:43:20 METDST Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: ; from "Robert Burns" at Sep 6, 95 6:43 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > GhostScript's printer drivers have an internal notion of margins. They crop > > off everything that falls out of them. I had to reduce right margin on my > > installation in order not to lose some page space. > How did you go about doing this? The hard way :( I had to edit the driver in question and recompile ghostscript. There isn't any other way I could find (and I had the source anyway, as I'm using gs3+ which cannot be commercially distributed.) > > > > The top margin is probably reduced because gs believes that you use different > > paper size than the one required by .ps file. It always tries to align > > bottom margin right. If the file requires a4, you will have to specify > > PAPERSIZE=a4 on gs command line. > > > I added PAPERSIZE=a4 to unix-lpr.sh but nothing changed. There is also a file in the ghostscript libraries which specifies the sizes of standard formats. I have changed papersizes directly there once. It may help, but doesn't have to. > I tried playing around with the resolution, page size, and pixel density > on tiff2ps and gs commands. > I did manage to get a good printout only after I changed the following > line (16) directly in the Postscript file: > %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 > %%Creator: tiff2ps > %%Title: fax000142 > %%CreationDate: Tue Sep 5 21:40:54 1995 > %%Origin: 0 0 > %%BoundingBox: 0 0 610 791 > %%Pages: (atend) > %%EndComments > %%Page: 1 1 > gsave > 100 dict begin > 609.882324 790.530640 scale > %ImageData: 1728 1076 1 1 0 1 2 "image" > /scanLine 216 string def > 1728 1076 1 > [1728 0 0 -1076 0 1076] ---> changed to [1728 0 -50 -1100 0 1076] > {currentfile scanLine readhexstring pop} bind > image Beats me. I'm PostScript illiterate, however. But I can try to play a little with tiff2ps and gs, and tell you what goes on my installation. /Alby > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) > Mtl., Ca. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 08:01:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA07324 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:01:46 -0700 Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (itsdsv1.enc.edu [199.93.252.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA07277 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:01:36 -0700 Received: (from owensc@localhost) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.6.11/8.7.2 rev 08/22/95) id LAA09402; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:01:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:01:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Owens To: questions list FreeBSD Subject: Re: Samba (DHCP) In-Reply-To: <199509060448.VAA28647@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: Christoph Kukulies > Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 19:06:46 +0200 (MET DST) > Subject: Re: Samba > > > Can I create my own ethers file and assign ip addresses to the WFW/Windows > > clients, or is a router required? > > No router required. What do you mean by ethers file? I doubt that > DHCP fully works int FreeBSD/bootpd so I recommend to use hardwired > IP-Addresses in the Windows PCs (does WfW/Win95 support DHCP?) True, but it CAN be done. The 2.0.5 bootpd is apparantly ver 2.4.0 . If you grab the 2.4.3 sources and apply a patch, you'll find that DHCP works quite well. Dynamic assigning is not supported, but static works great. To do this, grab ftp://firewall.mc.com/pub/bootp-2.4.3.tar.Z and ftp://nimbus.anu.edu.au/pub/tridge/samba/contributed/DHCP.patch Untar it, apply the patch, type 'make'... and away it goes. You might have to install it by hand, because I seem to remember that the makefile puts it somewhere funky if you do a 'make install'. Or you could simply edit the Makefile. :-) After that, add a :dl=[# of seconds for address lease]: entry for each DHCP client in your bootptab and it should start DHCPing for you! Hey FreeBSD maintainers!! Shouldn't we change the bootp in 2.1 or 2.2 to this version (with the patch)? later, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 08:16:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA12340 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:16:19 -0700 Received: from mx.kpn.com (mx.kpn.com [192.87.176.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA12322 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:16:10 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mx.kpn.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with UUCP id RAA26319 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:11:42 +0200 Received: (from ben@localhost) by hdxx05.unix.telecom.ptt.nl (8.6.10/8.6.10) id RAA00927 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:09:20 +0200 From: Ben Suurmeijer Message-Id: <199509071509.RAA00927@hdxx05.unix.telecom.ptt.nl> Subject: Booting from sd0 when wd0 is installed To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:09:20 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1062 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've FreeBSD 2.0.5 installed on my SCSI-drive, which is the second drive. On the first drive, an IDE-drive, is Windows'95. When I boot FreeBSD I must enter "hd(1,a)/kernel". How can I change this so that FreeBSD boots automatic? I've tried de option "config kernel root on sd0" but that doesn't do the trick. I also tried to add the option "BOOT_HT" in the file /sys/i386/boot/biosboot/Makefile. Also without succes. ( changed line: (added -DBOOT_HT) CFLAGS= -O2 -DDO_BAD144 -DBOOTWAIT=${BOOTWAIT} -DCOMCONSOLE=0x3F8 -DBOOT_HT ) What is the solution? Thanks, Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Suurmeijer | Telephone : +31 50 851041 PTT Telecom B.V. | Telefax : +31 50 851078 B&IT | E-mail : B.Suurmeijer@telecom.ptt.nl P.O. Box 188 | DISCLAIMER: This Statement is not an official NL-9700 AD Groningen | statement from, nor does it represent an The Netherlands | official position of, PTT Telecom B.V. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 08:44:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA13317 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:44:42 -0700 Received: from devnull (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA13311 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:44:41 -0700 Received: from olympus by devnull (8.6.8/8.6.6) id KAA15152; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:44:27 -0500 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA06936; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:44:37 CDT From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9509071544.AA06936@olympus> Subject: diskless boot panics, cannot mount root To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:44:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 545 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have trying to boot my second box diskless. I have not tried this since 1.1.5. Everything is cool until it is time to mount root. the kernel loads from the rootfs directory. I have set options DISKLESS What do I do for config kernel root on ????? swap on ????? I do not see this documented anywhere. Thanks, Boyd -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner - faulkner@isd.tandem.com - http://cactus.org/~faulkner _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 08:49:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA13461 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:49:07 -0700 Received: from strider.ibenet.it ([194.179.130.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA13438 ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:48:44 -0700 Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA20568; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:52:10 +0200 From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199509071552.RAA20568@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: SunExpert Article available To: Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Hackers' List), Questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions List) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:52:09 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 379 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello. I'd like to let you know that the article I put up for ftp at: ftp://ftp.free.it/pub/FreeBSD/SunExpert.article.May.1995.gz is now downloadable. Bye, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 10:07:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA01400 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:07:06 -0700 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA01394 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:06:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA07751 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:06:40 -0600 Message-Id: <199509071706.LAA07751@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Steve Passe To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem (results) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 1995 08:04:27 +0200." <199509070604.IAA04496@lirmm.lirmm.fr> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:06:39 -0600 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I was suprised to not receive any response about the suprafaxmodem. I > forward you a post found in comp.dcom.modems about it. What do you > think. Really nobody use it ? i have a suprafax 14.4 modem, i'll NEVER buy another supra product. it works ok, my beef is with their service. it had a lightning strike (or other electrical disturbance) that took out the microfuse inside it. i opened it up, identified the problem, removed the part, called them with a part number. they refused to send me a replacement part, their policy was that i had to send the complete modem into them for repair/replacement. this would have meant who knows how many days (weeks) without a modem. so instead, i spent the afternoon driving across town to an electronics parts house, geting a $.50 part and replacing it. i then called them back, asked to talk to a service manager and proceeded to explain why they will never get any more of my (and that of all the people i consult to) business. by way of analogy, i own an estro profi espresso maker. it had a seal tear on the steamer. i opened it up, identified the problem, called estro up. the service person walked me thru an exploded parts diagram, identified the part, and 2 DAYS LATER a pair of them were in my mailbox, NO CHARGE. i will recommend them to many people in the future, that free $.50 part will probably sell a dozen machines for them in the future. sorry for ranting but this sort of business foolishness really drives me crazy. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 10:21:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA01804 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:21:36 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA01794 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:21:34 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA10207; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:22:46 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199509071722.NAA10207@haven.ios.com> Subject: Re: Disk Geometry Problems To: jln@ghgcorp.com (Joe Nieten) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509071255.HAA08612@mailman.ghgcorp.com> from "Joe Nieten" at Sep 7, 95 07:55:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 555 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, > > I am having trouble installing FreeBSD on a 9 GIG disk ... it keeps having > geometry problems. > > Any suggestions? > > Joe Try a trick: 1024/64/32 is a geometry for 1 Gig SCSI. Everything else should work ( at least works here) by simple multiplying first digit by CAPACITY_OF_YOUR_HD_IN_GIGS Other trick is ( in any case you have to switch the DOS translation in the adapter BIOS OFF) is to use DOS fdisk program and tell it to use the whole HD for the DOS partition and run FreeBSD install afterwards Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 10:26:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA01956 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:26:47 -0700 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA01931 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:26:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA07870; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:26:24 -0600 Message-Id: <199509071726.LAA07870@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Steve Passe To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Subject: Re: diskless boot panics, cannot mount root In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 1995 10:44:37 CDT." <9509071544.AA06936@olympus> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:26:22 -0600 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > What do I do for > config kernel root on ????? swap on ????? on 950726-SNAP i use: config kernel root on wd0 there is a "feature" now that requires that you: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/usr/swapfs/swap.. bs=1024 count= where: = size of swapfile in kilobytes, eg. 20MB would be: 20000 if the swap file is 0 sized you get reboots/panics from the DISKLESS kernel when it starts to swap. i have an (crude) DISKLESS cookbook that I can mail you if you like. i have converted it to a Handbook page, john is now reviewing it for inclusion in the handbook. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 11:06:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA02956 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:06:20 -0700 Received: from moon.pr.erau.edu (root@moon.pr.erau.edu [192.101.135.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA02950 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:06:19 -0700 Received: from moon by moon.pr.erau.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #16) id m0sqlLx-0002GCC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:07 MST Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:07:08 -0700 (MST) From: Stephen Waits X-Sender: swaits@moon To: Steve Passe cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem (results) In-Reply-To: <199509071706.LAA07751@clem.systemsix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Steve Passe wrote: > i have a suprafax 14.4 modem, i'll NEVER buy another supra product. > it works ok, my beef is with their service. it had a lightning > strike (or other electrical disturbance) that took out the microfuse > inside it. i opened it up, identified the problem, removed the part, > called them with a part number. they refused to send me a Frankly, I wouldn't blame Supra one bit for this. First of all, your modem had lightning damage. Warranties usually do NOT cover natural disaster, etc. Second, you opened up the unit. Regardless of you knowledge, it doesn't seem to be the right thing to do. I have many Supra 28.8's connected to a few cisco cs516's. We have not had a single problem with them, and they seem to work great. In the future, I'll be purchasing more Supra's. Oh yah, we have adequate lightning protection on our modems. --Steve (http://pr.erau.edu/~swaits) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 11:20:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA03202 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:20:20 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA03196 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:20:14 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id OAA01240; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 14:10:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 14:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: 2.0R -> 2.1 stable To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk how to upgrade ?? will the following plan work ?? any gotcha's waiting for me ?? i have sup'ed all of stable into /home/sup/src..... the disk was disklabel'ed using the 2.0.5 sysinstall. i am planning on: dump all file systems create a fixit floppy with restore on-board cd /home/sup/src make world will this build and install everything ?? do i need to mv the /home/sup/src tree to /usr/src ?? jmb Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 12:49:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA06594 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:49:12 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA06586 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:49:02 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA10273; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:39:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:38:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Don's FList drop" To: Stephen Waits cc: Steve Passe , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem (results) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Stephen Waits wrote: > On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Steve Passe wrote: > > > i have a suprafax 14.4 modem, i'll NEVER buy another supra product. > > it works ok, my beef is with their service. it had a lightning > > strike (or other electrical disturbance) that took out the microfuse > > inside it. i opened it up, identified the problem, removed the part, > > called them with a part number. they refused to send me a > > Frankly, I wouldn't blame Supra one bit for this. First of all, your > modem had lightning damage. Warranties usually do NOT cover natural > disaster, etc. Second, you opened up the unit. Regardless of you > knowledge, it doesn't seem to be the right thing to do. I didn't get the impression from Steve that he wanted the part for free, merely that he wanted them to freaking sell it to him. I'd bet $50 he'd rather paid them a few bucks to buy what he knew was the right part (since their service department must have had them) rather than drive all over town looking for it. If he sent them the entire modem, they'da have had to open it up, replace the fuse, pack it up, mail it back. He asked them to eliminate the first two steps, they couldn't be bothered to deviate from their little prefabricated repair habitrail. And just to deal with your other claim, I find that most companies in the popular market will just eat this kind of repair cost beacuse it's a pain to process the charge and it's worth 10x the cost in good word of mouth. I bet if you deliberately sent one of your modems back with a bad fuse, they'd fix it for free, regardless of the cause. They'd rather have your unconditional love (in a market where brand loyalty is far between) than your $10. > Oh yah, we have adequate > lightning protection on our modems. Ooh, harsh.... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 13:03:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA06854 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:03:56 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA06848 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:03:55 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA01555; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:03:37 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509072003.NAA01555@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Booting from sd0 when wd0 is installed To: B.Suurmeijer@telecom.ptt.nl (Ben Suurmeijer) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509071509.RAA00927@hdxx05.unix.telecom.ptt.nl> from "Ben Suurmeijer" at Sep 7, 95 05:09:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1151 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The option is BOOT_HD not BOOT_HT > > Hi, > > I've FreeBSD 2.0.5 installed on my SCSI-drive, which is the second drive. > On the first drive, an IDE-drive, is Windows'95. > When I boot FreeBSD I must enter "hd(1,a)/kernel". How can I change this so > that FreeBSD boots automatic? I've tried de option "config kernel root on sd0" > but that doesn't do the trick. I also tried to add the option "BOOT_HT" in > the file /sys/i386/boot/biosboot/Makefile. Also without succes. > ( changed line: (added -DBOOT_HT) > CFLAGS= -O2 -DDO_BAD144 -DBOOTWAIT=${BOOTWAIT} -DCOMCONSOLE=0x3F8 -DBOOT_HT ) > > What is the solution? > > Thanks, > > Ben > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ben Suurmeijer | Telephone : +31 50 851041 > PTT Telecom B.V. | Telefax : +31 50 851078 > B&IT | E-mail : B.Suurmeijer@telecom.ptt.nl > P.O. Box 188 | DISCLAIMER: This Statement is not an official > NL-9700 AD Groningen | statement from, nor does it represent an > The Netherlands | official position of, PTT Telecom B.V. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 13:31:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA07533 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:31:55 -0700 Received: from easy1.easynet.com ([199.2.26.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA07527 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:31:52 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by easy1.easynet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA21320 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:32:52 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199509072032.NAA21320@easy1.easynet.com> Subject: Modern what to do a vhangup? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:32:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 83 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk what is the modern way to do a vhangup? Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 13:37:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA07823 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:37:44 -0700 Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA07814 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:37:30 -0700 Received: by main.statsci.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sqnhK-000r3uC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 13:37 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: questions@freebsd.org cc: scott Subject: Suggestions for tracking disk corruption in 2.0.5R Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 13:37:21 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi- I've finally gotten 2.0.5 up & going without shooting my own bloody foot off. I was doing normal sort of work - editing files, doing a 'pkg_add' on a new package from ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/packages/ (BTW, are those supposed to work with 2.0.5? or just -current? or maybe -stable & -current? or ...) with a uucico running in the background. I noticed a few odd messages that looked like this: free inode /usr/20096 had -268370322 blocks Now, here is some 'dmesg' output: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Sat Sep 2 20:42:09 PDT 1995 root@sabami.seaslug.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/SABAMI CPU: 90-MHz Pentium 735\\90 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x522 Stepping=2 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16384000 (4000 pages) avail memory = 15036416 (3671 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed1 at 0x300-0x31f irq 10 on isa ed1: address 00:80:48:88:74:5a, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff lpt2 not found at 0xffffffff fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1033MB (2115792 sectors), 2099 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the pci0 bus: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. pci0:0: INTEL CORPORATION, device=0x122d, class=bridge [not supported] pci0:7: INTEL CORPORATION, device=0x122e, class=bridge [not supported] vga0 rev 1 on pci0:10 ncr0 rev 3 int a irq 11 on pci0:11 reg20: virtual=0xf2e91000 physical=0xfafff000 size=0x100 ncr0: restart (scsi reset). ncr0 scanning for targets 0..6 (V2 pl21 95/03/21) ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:2:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3501TA 3054" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ncr0:2:0): CD-ROM cd0(ncr0:2:0): 250ns (4 Mb/sec) offset 8. cd present.[264427 x 2048 byte records] (ncr0:3:0): "QUANTUM EMPIRE_1400S 100E" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:3:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:3:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 1335MB (2734996 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:5:0): "EXABYTE EXB-8200 265T" type 1 removable SCSI 1 st0(ncr0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty pci0: uses 8388864 bytes of memory from fafff000 upto fb7fffff. pci0: uses 256 bytes of I/O space from e400 upto e4ff. mountmsdosfs(): root directory is not a multiple of the clustersize in length pid 284: xrdb: uid 1000: exited on signal 11 free inode /usr/20096 had -268370322 blocks free inode /usr/20097 had -268370093 blocks free inode /usr/20098 had -268370093 blocks free inode /usr/20129 had -268370093 blocks My partitioning/slicing looks like this: wd0s1 - DOS /c wd0s2a - 4.2BSD / wd0s2e - 4.2BSD /usr/X11R6 wd0s3 - DOS /e sd0s1 - DOS /d sd0s2 - swap (shared between Linux & FreeBSD, or at least that's the goal) sd0s3c - 4.2BSD /usr This happened last night, so after fsck'ing my /usr, I reinstalled FreeBSD (no newfs'ing) and editing my fstab to mount my DOS partitions as read-only (I've been seeing things warning about rw-mounted DOS partitions - what EXACTLY is the problem there? if any?), umount'd the DOS partitions, then mount'd them again. I left the system running overnight and now doing things like 'ls /usr' just return an error like: /usr: Bad file descriptor Does anything in here pop out at you as being something to investigate further? I've got 'fdisk' & 'disklabel -r' outputs for all of the relevant partitions, too... ******* Working on device /dev/rsd0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=3053 heads=43 sectors/track=63 (2709 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=3053 heads=43 sectors/track=63 (2709 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) start 63, size 246456 (120 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 90/ sector 63/ head 42 The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 246519, size 100233 (48 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 91/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 127/ sector 63/ head 42 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 346752, size 1026711 (501 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 128/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 506/ sector 63/ head 42 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 131,(Linux filesystem) start 1373463, size 1359918 (664 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 507/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 1008/ sector 63/ head 42 ******* Working on device /dev/rwd0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=2099 heads=64 sectors/track=63 (4032 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=2099 heads=64 sectors/track=63 (4032 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) start 63, size 766017 (374 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 189/ sector 63/ head 63 The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 766080, size 241920 (118 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 190/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 249/ sector 63/ head 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) start 1008000, size 1104768 (539 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 250/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 523/ sector 63/ head 63 The data for partition 3 is: # /dev/rwd0s2c: type: ESDI disk: wd0s2 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 4032 cylinders: 60 sectors/unit: 241920 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 71680 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 17*) c: 241920 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 59) e: 170240 71680 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 17*- 59*) # /dev/rsd0s2: type: SCSI disk: sd0s2 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 43 sectors/cylinder: 2709 cylinders: 37 sectors/unit: 100233 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] b: 100233 0 swap # (Cyl. 0 - 36) c: 100233 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 36) # /dev/rsd0s3c: type: SCSI disk: sd0s3 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 43 sectors/cylinder: 2709 cylinders: 379 sectors/unit: 1026711 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 1026711 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 378) e: 1026711 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 378) Don't you just hate it when people post big ole long messages? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 13:37:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA07838 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:37:47 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA07831 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:37:45 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA00318; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:36:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA27379; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:38:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199509072038.NAA27379@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Don's FList drop" cc: Stephen Waits , Steve Passe , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem (results) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 95 15:38:56 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 13:38:34 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >over town looking for it. If he sent them the entire modem, they'da have >had to open it up, replace the fuse, pack it up, mail it back. He asked >them to eliminate the first two steps, they couldn't be bothered to >deviate from their little prefabricated repair habitrail. Actually, I don't think Supra has a 'repair habitrail' at all. The products they make are far too cheap to bother with something like that. I think they would simply send out a new one instead. I don't think they have any mechanism for dealing with individual parts. If Steve had instead called them and said "my modem doesn't work anymore", they likely would have replaced it free of charge (after you sent back the broken one of course). Oh well. BTW, he may still be able to do that. :-) -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 14:56:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA11343 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 14:56:15 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA11337 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 14:56:13 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA00218; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 07:24:39 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509072154.HAA00218@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: modem (results) To: swaits@pr.erau.edu (Stephen Waits) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 07:24:38 +0930 (CST) Cc: smp@csn.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Waits" at Sep 7, 95 11:07:08 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1767 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Waits stands accused of saying: > > i have a suprafax 14.4 modem, i'll NEVER buy another supra product. > > it works ok, my beef is with their service. it had a lightning > > strike (or other electrical disturbance) that took out the microfuse > > inside it. i opened it up, identified the problem, removed the part, > > called them with a part number. they refused to send me a > > Frankly, I wouldn't blame Supra one bit for this. First of all, your > modem had lightning damage. Warranties usually do NOT cover natural > disaster, etc. Second, you opened up the unit. Regardless of you > knowledge, it doesn't seem to be the right thing to do. If a vendor won't sell an obviously competent (he opened the unit, identified the damaged part, and has the part number in hand) user a single replacement part, then you can be sure that they're likely to have other similarly anal policies. On the original topic - a local ISP is heavily recommending the Lightspeed modems; in hist words, there must be something wrong - they're cheap, they're fast and appear to be bulletproof. (They're also one of a very few modems that come out of the box ready to run, and if you're hanging one off a router, the extra few minutes to find a free serial port on something else, run kermit, grovel through the manual etc. can be valuable) > --Steve (http://pr.erau.edu/~swaits) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 15:27:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA12518 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:27:51 -0700 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com (gif@netcom7.netcom.com [192.100.81.115]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA12512 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:27:49 -0700 Received: by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA21448; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:24:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:24:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Gifka Sovereign Subject: Using IIJPPP with SLiRP To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello all, I was wondering if anyone on this list has successfully connected your machine with IIJPPP to a host running SLiRP v0.95e or TIA 2.0x (or possibly some other SLIP/PPP emulator)? I can't seem to find any helpfiles that specifically relate to connecting FreeBSD 2.0.5's IIJPPP to a SLIP/PPP emulator; if you know of such textfiles, can you share the location of such beasts with me? Any and all help greatly appreciated! -GS From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 15:35:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA12837 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:35:21 -0700 Received: from system1.indecent.com (partek@system1.indecent.com [204.95.227.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA12830 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:35:19 -0700 Received: (from partek@localhost) by system1.indecent.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA09952; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:28:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:27:59 -0500 (EST) From: David Anderson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1.0-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm waiting to make my total switch to FreeBSD until 2.1.0-RELEASE comes out since it's likely then that Walnut Creek will put out an updated CD set. I know this is probably annoying, but is there any idea as to when it'll be released? Thanks, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 15:39:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA12981 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:39:51 -0700 Received: from iii1.iii.net (iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA12974 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:39:47 -0700 Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA11738 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:39:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:39:26 -0400 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199509072239.SAA11738@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Routing from a SLIP connection to/from an ethern card Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just got a subnet setup which I am using on my local network. How can I route packets through my server, I.E. route the ethernet device (le0) through the SLIP connection (sl0) so I can communicate to and from the internet. Thanks in advance. -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 16:33:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA13895 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:33:56 -0700 Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA13889 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:33:53 -0700 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id SAA10019 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:33:21 -0500 Received: from mdd.comm.mot.com (mdisea.mdd.comm.mot.com [138.242.64.201]) by pobox.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id SAA03828 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:33:20 -0500 Received: from dragon.mdd.comm.mot.com by mdd.comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07238; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:33:14 PDT Received: from teckla (teckla.mdd.comm.mot.com) by dragon.mdd.comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29558; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:33:12 PDT Received: by teckla (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12213; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:33:12 -0700 From: kmiller@mdd.comm.mot.com (Kenneth Miller (Consultant)) Message-Id: <9509072333.AA12213@teckla> Subject: Digiboard Drivers To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:33:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 324 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I received a responce in my e-mail telling me to contact this address for more information on the e-mail address of the person or persons working on the FreeBSD version of drivers for the DigiBoard cards. You may respond to me via e-mail at kmiller@mdd.comm.mot.com or kmiller@wimsey.com Thanks in advance. Ken Miller From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 17:35:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA14672 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:35:07 -0700 Received: from ix5.ix.netcom.com (ix5.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA14666 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:35:05 -0700 Received: from ix-jac1-11.ix.netcom.com by ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA13452; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:34:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199509080034.RAA13452@ix5.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: e.knight@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 20:31:02 -0400 To: David Anderson From: e.knight@ix.netcom.com (Edward F. Knight) Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I'm waiting to make my total switch to FreeBSD until 2.1.0-RELEASE comes out >since it's likely then that Walnut Creek will put out an updated CD set. > >I know this is probably annoying, but is there any idea as to when it'll >be released? > >Thanks, >Dave > > >They say it is comming out this month. However, It will take Walnut Creek Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is issued. Then If you are a subscriber you will be last in the queue to get the CDROM. I have been told by the folks at Walnut Creek that when they get product if someone calls in that their CDROM will be shipped the same day and that subscribers to the product have to wait for one mass pressing of the cdrom which costs them approximately $0.67 and they sell for $39 regular and $25 for subscription. Their attitude towards those of of us who have been supporting them through subscription is convoluted. While I'm on a roll, I can't quite figure out where the dividing line between FreeBSD.org and Walnut Creek Cdrom is. Many of the "officials" of FreeBSD.org are employyees of Walnut Creek Cdrom. Since there will be those who take the opposing point of view just to take the opposing point of view, I welcome their comments. These comments should make humorous bedtime reading which will ultimately help me fall asleep. Ted Knight From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 17:55:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA15127 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:55:35 -0700 Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (root@vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA15121 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:55:31 -0700 Received: from [204.177.193.231] (n4hhe.iquest.com [204.177.193.231]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA17906 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:55:25 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:55:37 -0600 To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) Subject: Re: current Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey said: > To get from there to current, you get the current sources using either > ctm or sup, then you go into single user and make world. Duh. Silly me should have thought of that "single user" business. Meanwhile when I built a 2.1-STABLE I did it multi-user. Was pretty amazed that it worked and replaced all my 2.0.5R binaries in the process. And didn't get caught in any loop. And its been humming right along for 8 days now... I was real pleased with myself too, until now. The Question: am I hosed? _Should_ I re-make world from single user or just wait for 2.1R? -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ============================================================= The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:23:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA15775 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:23:17 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA15769 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:23:15 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA06136; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:22:32 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id VAA14966; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:22:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:22:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: "Edward F. Knight" cc: David Anderson , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199509080034.RAA13452@ix5.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Edward F. Knight wrote: > >I'm waiting to make my total switch to FreeBSD until 2.1.0-RELEASE comes out > >since it's likely then that Walnut Creek will put out an updated CD set. > > > >I know this is probably annoying, but is there any idea as to when it'll > >be released? > > > >Thanks, > >Dave > > > > > >They say it is comming out this month. However, It will take Walnut Creek > Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is > issued. Then If you are a subscriber you will be last in the queue to get > the CDROM. I have been told by the folks at Walnut Creek that when they get > product if someone calls in that their CDROM will be shipped the same day > and that subscribers to the product have to wait for one mass pressing of > the cdrom which costs them approximately $0.67 and they sell for $39 regular > and $25 for subscription. Their attitude towards those of of us who have > been supporting them through subscription is convoluted. > > While I'm on a roll, I can't quite figure out where the dividing line > between FreeBSD.org and Walnut Creek Cdrom is. Many of the "officials" of > FreeBSD.org are employyees of Walnut Creek Cdrom. > > Since there will be those who take the opposing point of view just to take > the opposing point of view, I welcome their comments. These comments should > make humorous bedtime reading which will ultimately help me fall asleep. Ted, while it's possible for the relationship to be the way you describe, past history shows it isn't so. FreeBSD has benefitted enormously by the friendly ties with Walnut Creek. It doesn't take 3-4 weeks, at least it hasn't for me, and exactly where do you think all this FreeBSD development would be taking place, if not for Walnut Creek's machines? Granted, there are other folks machines available, but not on that order of donation. Have you logged into WCARCHIVE.CDROM.COM lately, and seen how much machine is devoted to FreeBSD? There are some other cdroms avilable that way, but FreeBSD dominates, both in disk space and (more importantly) in network resources, expensive ones. The only reason that I'm replying is because some folks, in reading your post, and not knowing the history of the FreeBSD/Walnut Creek history, might get the wrong idea. Your mysterious comment about a funny relationship between some FreeBSD developers and Walnut Creek, well, it bears an unpleasant similarity with scenes from the communist witch hunts of the fifties. If you have complaints, be specific, don't hint at it. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:25:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA15836 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:25:35 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA15830 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:25:34 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA00623; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:24:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA00170; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:26:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199509080126.SAA00170@corbin.Root.COM> To: e.knight@ix.netcom.com (Edward F. Knight) cc: David Anderson , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 95 20:31:02 EDT." <199509080034.RAA13452@ix5.ix.netcom.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 18:26:32 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >While I'm on a roll, I can't quite figure out where the dividing line >between FreeBSD.org and Walnut Creek Cdrom is. Many of the "officials" of >FreeBSD.org are employyees of Walnut Creek Cdrom. "Many"? Actually, 3. Myself, who takes care of problems with wcarchive (and I'm not even an employee, just a contract worker); Jordan, who puts the FreeBSD CD collection together, and Justin who works on the OS/2 CD. That's out of 12+ core members. So what's your point? We have zero influence in what they do or how they handle their customers. For what it's worth, I agree with you that they should ship the CD's to the "subscribers" first. ...but my opinion in this regard is likely worth less than yours. If you have a problem with how they treat their customers, then you should contact them and tell them (as I'm sure you already have). If the real problem you have is with the FreeBSD core group, the quality of work we do, or our release policies, then you should send your comments to core@freebsd.org. This is clearly stated in the mailing-list FAQ. Sorry that you're not happy. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:27:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA15887 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:27:51 -0700 Received: from system1.indecent.com (partek@system1.indecent.com [204.95.227.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA15881 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:27:49 -0700 Received: (from partek@localhost) by system1.indecent.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA10595; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:20:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: David Anderson To: "Edward F. Knight" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199509080034.RAA13452@ix5.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Edward F. Knight wrote: > They say it is comming out this month. However, It will take Walnut Creek > Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is > issued. Ok then, what would be the next best alternative? I want to upgrade to FreeBSD(linux is starting to get on my nerves) by the end of September.. > Then If you are a subscriber you will be last in the queue to get > the CDROM. I have been told by the folks at Walnut Creek that when they get > product if someone calls in that their CDROM will be shipped the same day > and that subscribers to the product have to wait for one mass pressing of > the cdrom which costs them approximately $0.67 and they sell for $39 regular > and $25 for subscription. Their attitude towards those of of us who have > been supporting them through subscription is convoluted. Hmm.. That's stupid.. Oh well... :/ Thanks, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:28:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA15920 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:28:28 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA15911 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:28:25 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA06274; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:28:17 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id VAA15053; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:28:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:28:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: David Kelly cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: current In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, David Kelly wrote: > Chuck Robey said: > > To get from there to current, you get the current sources using either > > ctm or sup, then you go into single user and make world. > > Duh. Silly me should have thought of that "single user" business. Meanwhile > when I built a 2.1-STABLE I did it multi-user. Was pretty amazed that it > worked and replaced all my 2.0.5R binaries in the process. And didn't get > caught in any loop. And its been humming right along for 8 days now... I > was real pleased with myself too, until now. > > The Question: am I hosed? _Should_ I re-make world from single user or just > wait for 2.1R? Hmm, if you do it multi-user, none of your active shared libs get changed out. Surprised it works. Still got your /usr/obj directories? /usr/obj/lib/libc/libc.so .... (I don't run 2.1 stable, maybe its libc.so.2.1 ?) oughta still be there. You could use the utilities in /stand, which aren't users of shared libs, to move it to /usr/lib. I'd do it as single-user, tho. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:30:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA16016 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:30:48 -0700 Received: from ix3.ix.netcom.com (ix3.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA16010 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:30:46 -0700 Received: from e.knight@ix.netcom.com by ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id SAA25152; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:29:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:29:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: Reply-To: e.knight@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.2 on FreeBSD From: Ted To: Chuck Robey Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE Cc: , David Anderson , "Edward F. Knight" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:36:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA16134 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:36:08 -0700 Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA16128 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:36:04 -0700 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00250 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:35:32 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199509080135.SAA00250@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: Accessing CD-ROM causes hang To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:35:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2387 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Sometimes when I access the CD-ROM drive to play an audio CD using xcdplayer, the music starts but everything else stops, with a total freeze-up only reset can cure. Any ideas? Thanks, -Archie Output of dmesg: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 31 03:37:56 PDT 1995 root@phil.tribe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PHIIL_586 CPU: 100-MHz Pentium 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16384000 (4000 pages) avail memory = 15089664 (3684 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed1 at 0x300-0x31f irq 5 on isa ed1: address 00:00:e8:c9:44:3d, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 bt0: Bt946C/ 0-PCI/EISA/VLB(32bit) bus bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=10 bt0: version 4.25J, async only, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs bt0: targ 0 async bt0: Enabling Round robin scheme bt0 at 0x330 irq 10 on isa bt0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (bt0:0:0): "QUANTUM FIREBALL1080S 1Q04" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(bt0:0:0): Direct-Access 1042MB (2134305 512 byte sectors) (bt0:4:0): "CHINON CD-ROM CDS-535 Q20" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(bt0:4:0): CD-ROM cd present.[327278 x 2048 byte records] npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 1 on isa gus0: Probing for devices on the pci0 bus: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. pci0:0: vendor=0x1039, device=0x406, class=bridge [not supported] pci0:1: vendor=0x1039, device=0x8, class=bridge [not supported] vga0 rev 1 on pci0:10 pci0:12: vendor=0x104b, device=0x1040, class=storage [not supported] map(10): io(e800) pci0:13: vendor=0x1095, device=0x640, class=storage [not supported] pci0: uses 8388608 bytes of memory from fb000000 upto fb7fffff. changing root device to sd0a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. _______________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@tribe.com * Tribe Computer Works http://www.tribe.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:40:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA16224 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:40:51 -0700 Received: from ix7.ix.netcom.com (ix7.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA16218 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:40:50 -0700 Received: from e.knight@ix.netcom.com by ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id SAA06855; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:39:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:39:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: Reply-To: e.knight@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.2 on FreeBSD From: Ted To: Chuck Robey Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE Cc: , David Anderson , "Edward F. Knight" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:46:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA16320 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:46:48 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA16314 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:46:47 -0700 Received: (from kleiner@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id VAA18709 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:46:45 -0400 From: David Kleiner Message-Id: <199509080146.VAA18709@panix2.panix.com> Subject: Screen Problems? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:46:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 413 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Gurus, I am having problems with newly compiled Screen - when run off a shell, nothing happens - the machine just sits there, no echo or much of anything, have to reboot (is there a less violent way, BTW?) BUT when run off gdb - works fine... Details: 2.0.5, AMD486-100, 16 o'RAM, pcvt console, screen tar ball is from the CDROM. If the question is misdirected, I do apologize. Sincerely, David Kleiner From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 18:48:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA16353 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:48:11 -0700 Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA16347 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:48:09 -0700 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00274 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:47:38 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199509080147.SAA00274@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: Re: multiple variable definitions in object files To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:47:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1486 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello again. I sent the mail below a few days ago and got no response. I can't tell if that means nobody has an answer or if the answer is so trivial that the question shouldn't have been asked in the first place. Sorry to pester, but for some reason I'm really curious... Thanks, -Archie p.s. Quoting from K & R, 2nd edition (ANSI C), p. 81, paragraph 2: "There must be only one _definition_ of an external variable among all the files that make up the source program; other files may contain 'extern' declarations to access it." > Can someone explain why the linker allows multiple definitions of > a variable to be linked together without complaining or warning? > > I found this surprising... I thought this was a no-no. At least it > has always caused errors in the past it seems. > > I didn't see any relevant info in the ld(1) man page. > > For example: > > ======== foo.c ============ > > int global; > > main() > { > global = 2; > printf("foo: global = %d\n", global); > bar(); > } > > ======== bar.c ============ > > float global; > > bar() > { > printf("bar: global = %f\n", global); > } > > ======== compile with ========== > > $ cc -o foobar foo.c bar.c > $ foobar > foo: global = 2 > bar: global = 0.000000 > $ _______________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@tribe.com * Tribe Computer Works http://www.tribe.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 19:00:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA16752 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:00:51 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA16746 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:00:49 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA218565641; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:00:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199509080200.AA218565641@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA009705639; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:00:39 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: PGP aware mailer ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:00:39 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, Is there a PGP-aware mailer out there ? I want to be able to do the following in one step with the mailer without starting a sub-shell : 1) decrypt and read PGP'ed message. 2) sign and/or encrypt a message while sending/replying/forwarding and only type in receipients' public keys. For example, to pgp signed this very article, I have to do it outside elm, 8-(( Thanks in advance. - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBME+jrUmThh0X7Um5AQHhFwP+MF+GFfCVW3TtSckm/kaHv4rtmlNZmX1W 6c4PRbnKp44NfWnvLENZzSHnBHVjr5G/XnA7k0Ob2pgl+W3fgAyAFkghY/mUP+aa w7JpfA+GxVd2q5BrEjox6ONEnvUaAjRl5OnmzoPIQP/zWbBTuwoxUDEXeCSXuMxU AHCitJ2XTOU= =CXsu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 19:02:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA16800 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:02:53 -0700 Received: from dvals1.larc.nasa.gov (dvals1.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.4.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAB16794 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:02:51 -0700 Received: (from branson@localhost) by dvals1.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA14401; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:02:23 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199509080202.WAA14401@dvals1.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Cc: e.knight@ix.netcom.com, partek@indecent.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Sep 7, 95 09:22:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3033 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > > > >They say it is comming out this month. However, It will take Walnut Creek > > Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is > > issued. Then If you are a subscriber you will be last in the queue to get > > the CDROM. I have been told by the folks at Walnut Creek that when they get > > product if someone calls in that their CDROM will be shipped the same day > > and that subscribers to the product have to wait for one mass pressing of > > the cdrom which costs them approximately $0.67 and they sell for $39 regular > > and $25 for subscription. Their attitude towards those of of us who have > > been supporting them through subscription is convoluted. Not Generally... and considering the resources that they allow us... that is an _extremely_ small price to pay. > > > > While I'm on a roll, I can't quite figure out where the dividing line > > between FreeBSD.org and Walnut Creek Cdrom is. Many of the "officials" of > > FreeBSD.org are employyees of Walnut Creek Cdrom. I have to ask the question: Why are you concerned about it? Quite frankly I have to say that that relationship is one of the most benefical things to come out of the support that WC gives us. And I think that it is great that the "officials" of FreeBSD.org also have a place to work that is sooooo much involved in our support. > > Ted, while it's possible for the relationship to be the way you describe, > past history shows it isn't so. FreeBSD has benefitted enormously by the > friendly ties with Walnut Creek. It doesn't take 3-4 weeks, at least it > hasn't for me, and exactly where do you think all this FreeBSD > development would be taking place, if not for Walnut Creek's machines? > Granted, there are other folks machines available, but not on that order > of donation. Have you logged into WCARCHIVE.CDROM.COM lately, and seen > how much machine is devoted to FreeBSD? There are some other cdroms > avilable that way, but FreeBSD dominates, both in disk space and (more > importantly) in network resources, expensive ones. AMEN!!! > > The only reason that I'm replying is because some folks, in reading your > post, and not knowing the history of the FreeBSD/Walnut Creek history, > might get the wrong idea. Your mysterious comment about a funny > relationship between some FreeBSD developers and Walnut Creek, well, it > bears an unpleasant similarity with scenes from the communist witch hunts > of the fifties. If you have complaints, be specific, don't hint at it. Agreed... certianly be specific here where you are certian to stir up a hornets nest of responses ;-) -branson -- MATHESON, E BRANSON E.B.MATHESON@LaRC.NASA.GOV Mail Stop 488 COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION NASA Langley Research Center Assigned to Operations Support Division Hampton, VA 23681-0001 Phone +1 804 864-9700 http://longstreet.larc.nasa.gov/~branson/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 19:05:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA16857 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:05:50 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA16851 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:05:45 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00650; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:43:46 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509080213.LAA00650@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE To: e.knight@ix.netcom.com (Edward F. Knight) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:43:46 +0930 (CST) Cc: partek@indecent.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509080034.RAA13452@ix5.ix.netcom.com> from "Edward F. Knight" at Sep 7, 95 08:31:02 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2363 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Edward F. Knight stands accused of saying: > >They say it is comming out this month. However, It will take Walnut Creek > Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is I'll leave WC to comment on pressing time, but consider carefully the number I quote below. > issued. Then If you are a subscriber you will be last in the queue to get > the CDROM. I have been told by the folks at Walnut Creek that when they get > product if someone calls in that their CDROM will be shipped the same day > and that subscribers to the product have to wait for one mass pressing of > the cdrom which costs them approximately $0.67 and they sell for $39 regular > and $25 for subscription. Their attitude towards those of of us who have > been supporting them through subscription is convoluted. This is totally bogus. I'm about as far away from WC as it's possible to be and still have running water, and my subscription copy of 2.0.5 fell through the slot in the door _12_days_ after the official release. I don't call this convoluted, I call it bloody brilliant. > While I'm on a roll, I can't quite figure out where the dividing line > between FreeBSD.org and Walnut Creek Cdrom is. Many of the "officials" of > FreeBSD.org are employyees of Walnut Creek Cdrom. Two is "many"? (Assuming we count Justin as an "official"?) WC have supported FreeBSD in terms of publicity, resources &c., in return they make money selling FreeBSD CDroms, they get an OS that lets them run the most extreme FTP site on the net, and associated good karma. That looks like a happy partnership to me. > Since there will be those who take the opposing point of view just to take > the opposing point of view, I welcome their comments. These comments should > make humorous bedtime reading which will ultimately help me fall asleep. "You're all a bunch of jerks and I'm infinitely superior" ?? I don't think that's what you mean, but it's what you said. > Ted Knight -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 19:12:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA16998 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:12:40 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA16990 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:12:35 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA00673; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:11:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA00191; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:13:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199509080213.TAA00191@corbin.Root.COM> To: David Anderson cc: "Edward F. Knight" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 95 20:20:34 CDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 19:13:35 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Edward F. Knight wrote: >> They say it is comming out this month. However, It will take Walnut Creek >> Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is >> issued. > >Ok then, what would be the next best alternative? I want to upgrade to >FreeBSD(linux is starting to get on my nerves) by the end of September.. Well, I'm trying to finish my part of the release work for 2.1 and I've been working hard on this now for several months. Jordan is meanwhile working on sysinstall and I think we should both be finished at about the same time (hopefully in a week or less). We will do a snapshot at that time, another one a week later, and if no surprises come up, the release a week after that. This will put the completion date at near the end of September. It will then take about 10 days to get the CD's back from replication. If you can't wait this long, then I'd recommend getting the 2.0.5 CD right now and then upgrading to 2.1 when it becomes available. ...or don't get the CD at all and just download the bits from ftp.freebsd.org. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 19:15:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA17042 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:15:41 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17036 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:15:39 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA00682; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:14:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA00210; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:16:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199509080216.TAA00210@corbin.Root.COM> To: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: current In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 95 19:55:37 MDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 19:16:34 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Chuck Robey said: >> To get from there to current, you get the current sources using either >> ctm or sup, then you go into single user and make world. > >Duh. Silly me should have thought of that "single user" business. Meanwhile >when I built a 2.1-STABLE I did it multi-user. Was pretty amazed that it >worked and replaced all my 2.0.5R binaries in the process. And didn't get >caught in any loop. And its been humming right along for 8 days now... I >was real pleased with myself too, until now. > >The Question: am I hosed? _Should_ I re-make world from single user or just >wait for 2.1R? I don't think there is any problem with this. It isn't necessary to shut down to single-user to do the rebuild. If it worked and you aren't having any problems, then you should be fine. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 19:18:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA17124 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:18:59 -0700 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17118 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:18:57 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/PHILMAIL-1.11) with UUCP id TAA03411; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:13:18 -0700 Received: from merde.dis.org by merde.dis.org (8.6.11/MERDE-940323) id TAA00881; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:11:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199509080211.TAA00881@merde.dis.org> To: M C Wong cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: PGP aware mailer ? X-Phone: (510) 849-2230 X-Snail-address: 2560 Bancroft way #51;Berkeley CA 94704-1700 In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 08 Sep 1995 12:00:39 -0500. <199509080200.AA218565641@hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/x-pgp; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <876.810526272.1@merde.dis.org> Content-Description: Pgp signed cleartext Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 19:11:13 -0700 From: Pete Shipley Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hi, > Is there a PGP-aware mailer out there ? I want to be able to do the >following in one step with the mailer without starting a sub-shell : > >1) decrypt and read PGP'ed message. >2) sign and/or encrypt a message while sending/replying/forwarding > and only type in receipients' public keys. > > For example, to pgp signed this very article, I have to do it outside >elm, 8-(( > I use MH (with MIME) and I can read and compose email within MH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQBVAwUBME+mPnynuL1gkffFAQGDiQH9HjTA1BmYeBigz3eWiadgFQdTF4JIk7HI Kndt/b3rHhj1yamRSXcX2RYbUcDGcE+k9GRhlbS1N2+ZAUEvhBQmHg== =jO7h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 20:12:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA18357 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:12:12 -0700 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA18351 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:12:10 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA24635; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:14:07 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:14:07 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199509080314.VAA24635@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: e.knight@ix.netcom.com (Edward F. Knight) Cc: David Anderson , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199509080034.RAA13452@ix5.ix.netcom.com> References: <199509080034.RAA13452@ix5.ix.netcom.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > They say it is comming out this month. Who says it's coming out this month. > However, It will take Walnut Creek > Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is > issued. Then If you are a subscriber you will be last in the queue to get > the CDROM. I have been told by the folks at Walnut Creek that when they get > product if someone calls in that their CDROM will be shipped the same day > and that subscribers to the product have to wait for one mass pressing of > the cdrom May I ask who ad WC said such a thing? Heresay is not welcome. > which costs them approximately $0.67 I think you don't really have any idea what exactly 'costs' are. What about the hardware, the insert, advertising, staffing costs, rent, and all those other things. Do you think they get it all for free? > and they sell for $39 regular > and $25 for subscription. Their attitude towards those of of us who have > been supporting them through subscription is convoluted. Gee, and I though it was the FreeBSD folks who really support the project. > While I'm on a roll, I can't quite figure out where the dividing line > between FreeBSD.org and Walnut Creek Cdrom is. Many of the "officials" of > FreeBSD.org are employyees of Walnut Creek Cdrom. Hmm, I have *never* been a WC employee, and neither are *most* of the core members. As one of the original founders, I can't even begin to understand where your twisted sense of reality is based. I am no longer a core member out of choice, but before I resigned I put in hundreds if not thousands of hours into the project w/out *ANY* compensation. There are others whose accomplishments make mine pale in comparison. Those are the folks who 'support' the project. Sorry for venting, but people who respond like this really tick me off, Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 23:28:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA23005 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 23:28:52 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22974 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 23:28:46 -0700 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA05544 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:59:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA11750 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:59:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199509080459.WAA11750@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Steve Passe To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem (results) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:07:08 PDT." Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 22:59:10 -0600 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Stephen Waits wrote: > On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Steve Passe wrote: > >> i have a suprafax 14.4 modem, i'll NEVER buy another supra product. >> it works ok, my beef is with their service. it had a lightning >> strike (or other electrical disturbance) that took out the microfuse >> inside it. i opened it up, identified the problem, removed the part, >> called them with a part number. they refused to send me a > > Frankly, I wouldn't blame Supra one bit for this. First of all, your > modem had lightning damage. Warranties usually do NOT cover natural > disaster, etc. Second, you opened up the unit. Regardless of you > knowledge, it doesn't seem to be the right thing to do. it wasn't under warranty, i didn't ask for warranty coverage, i didn't want them to give me the part. i wanted to buy the part from them to save myself some time and bother, to get an important system that i make my living with back online. > Oh yah, we have adequate lightning protection on our modems. i have a commercial quality lightning protector on the line at the head end, bolted to a 3/4" waterpipe. all the equipment is on a UPS. sometimes, when lightning strikes, things die, no matter how much protection you use. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD ps. i'm not flaming Stephen Waits, just really mad at supra! From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 00:20:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA25108 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:20:50 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA25102 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:20:49 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA029138409; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:33:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199509080533.AA029138409@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA013938407; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:33:27 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: Re: PGP aware mailer ? To: shipley@merde.dis.org (Pete Shipley) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:33:27 EST Cc: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509080211.TAA00881@merde.dis.org>; from "Pete Shipley" at Sep 07, 95 7:11 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > >Hi, > > Is there a PGP-aware mailer out there ? I want to be able to do the > >following in one step with the mailer without starting a sub-shell : > > > >1) decrypt and read PGP'ed message. > >2) sign and/or encrypt a message while sending/replying/forwarding > > and only type in receipients' public keys. > > > > > For example, to pgp signed this very article, I have to do it outside > >elm, 8-(( > > > > > I use MH (with MIME) and I can read and compose email within MH > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6 > > iQBVAwUBME+mPnynuL1gkffFAQGDiQH9HjTA1BmYeBigz3eWiadgFQdTF4JIk7HI > Kndt/b3rHhj1yamRSXcX2RYbUcDGcE+k9GRhlbS1N2+ZAUEvhBQmHg== > =jO7h > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > How about does there exist any editor which can support pgp stuff ? In which case, I was hoping that I can just change the editor in elm instead of installing a new version of elm or different mailer. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 01:16:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA25860 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:16:29 -0700 Received: from konrad.lysator.liu.se (lysnet-gw.lysator.liu.se [130.236.253.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA25854 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:16:26 -0700 Received: from katinka.lysator.liu.se (katinka.lysator.liu.se [130.236.254.81]) by konrad.lysator.liu.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA18660 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:16:20 +0200 Received: (pw@localhost) by katinka.lysator.liu.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA07879; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:16:31 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:16:31 +0200 Message-Id: <199509080816.KAA07879@katinka.lysator.liu.se> From: P{r Winzell To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I wrote a previous letter but it was in the midst of installation confusion and didn't really contain direct and identifiable questions. I have now been running my system happily and with impressive stability for quite a some time, though, and I hope somebody will be able to briefly answer me these two questions: A) Using a serial mouse for X, the pointer jitters all over the place. Is anybody likely to fix the serial driver? Friends tell me the FreeBSD serial driver is known to be buggy, which seems to me to be quite big a problem for an operating system? B) Is there any chance of seeing a combined keyboard/mouse "PS/2-mouse"- capable anytime soon? Altneratively a hack to the driver that exists so that it works? (Currently, the probe for the mouse locks up the keyboard). C) I have a definite bug in the NFS filesystem and it seems to me it could only be on my end of the link that the problem lies. It is most easily identified by simply su:ing to root and doing a 'mv' of a file to a NFS- mounted filesystem. A chown will then be attempted, and fail, and some buffer fails to flush properly because the destination file will be truncated to some even number (eg a 51134-size file will be 49152). This is obviously a rather serious problem and is keeping me from using NFS for anything other than read-only-mounting eg the src directory. I do not run YP/NIS. I have briefly looked at the source for the NFS filesystem as well as the serial driver but OS programming is so completely out of my scope that I wouldn't know where to begin to look. So I am reduced to asking if anybody who does know what to do is likely to do it in the future... I want to thank everybody involved for their efforts, and say that I hope to be of at least some marginal use to the project some day. Sincerely, Pär Winzell From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 01:21:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA25980 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:21:11 -0700 Received: from easy1.easynet.com ([199.2.26.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA25974 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:21:09 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by easy1.easynet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA05007 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:22:28 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199509080822.BAA05007@easy1.easynet.com> Subject: watchdog board? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 140 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there a cheap card out there that will push the reset button for me if my machine hangs up? thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 01:22:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA26087 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:22:57 -0700 Received: from easy1.easynet.com ([199.2.26.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA26081 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:22:55 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by easy1.easynet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA05025 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:24:13 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199509080824.BAA05025@easy1.easynet.com> Subject: Xircom 8 modems on a card? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:24:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 193 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone used the Xircom "8 modems on a board card" with FreeBSD? Has anyone used one at all? Do they exist? Is there a price real or imagined? Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 04:22:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA01514 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 04:22:36 -0700 Received: from barney.ife.no (barney.ife.no [128.39.229.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA01506 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 04:22:28 -0700 Received: from tigern.ife.no by barney.ife.no (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08605; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:21:43 +0200 From: stein@ife.no (Stein Morten Sandbech) Received: by tigern.ife.no ; Fri, 8 Sep 95 13:19:36 +0200 Message-Id: <9509081119.AA18986@tigern.ife.no> Subject: Talisman cards & OmniMedia To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 13:19:36 METDST Cc: stein@ife.no Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I had some questions regarding the Talisman cards and the special prices when bought for FreeBSD. I mailed OmniMedia the questions a couple of weeks ago. I have not heard from them yet... (I sent three different emails with roughly the same content). First, are there anybody out there that has communicated with OmniMedia on "sales@omt.com"? (No, the mail session(s) did not fail ... :) Does somebody know if there are any distributors for the Talisman MPEG playback cards in Europe, or preferrably in Scandinavia, Norway ...? If so, what are the prices ? Technical questions regarding the hardware..., who else would know such things if OmniMedia don't answer? On beforehand, thank you /* Stein M Sandbech Email: stein@ife.no ** ** Owner & technical manager Email: steinms@oslonett.no ** ** Ing. Stein M. Sandbech Phone: +47 6387 2300 ** ** UNIX consulting. FreeBSD, ISC, HPUX Phone: +47 6380 6219 ** ** Asaktoppen 39, N-2045 Leirsund, NORWAY Fax: +47 6381 1168 */ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 05:34:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA05198 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 05:34:15 -0700 Received: from enterprise.powerup.com.au (root@enterprise.powerup.com.au [203.2.122.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA05190 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 05:34:10 -0700 Received: from ts0104.powerup.com.au (ts0104.powerup.com.au [203.8.189.100]) by enterprise.powerup.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA16850 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:33:30 +1000 Message-Id: <199509081233.WAA16850@enterprise.powerup.com.au> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 90 10:29:05 -0800 From: Richard J Uren X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cdrom problem. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a problem with my cdrom when I endeavour to mount the cdrom I get the 'device not configured' message. I read the FAQ - there is a cdrom in the drive. :-) The cdrom hangs off a soundblaster 16. The kernel detects the card is present (probe & attach work fine) however it doesn't show up in an 'lsdev' ??? (Should it ?) /var/log/messages short extract matcd0 at 0x230-0x233 irq 10 on isa matcd0: ['0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff'] matcd1: ['0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff0xff'] ... similarly for matcd2 & matcd3. Any suggestions ? Thanks Richard Uren ruren@enterprise.powerup.com.au From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 07:02:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA07509 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 07:02:10 -0700 Received: from grapenuts.bellcore.com (grapenuts.bellcore.com [192.4.4.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA07503 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 07:02:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grapenuts.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA08544; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:59:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199509081359.JAA08544@grapenuts.bellcore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: grapenuts.bellcore.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Andrew Heybey To: M C Wong cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PGP aware mailer ? In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 08 Sep 1995 12:00:39 -0500. <199509080200.AA218565641@hp.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 09:59:20 -0400 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk mailcrypt is an emacs lisp package for making the use of pgp with mailers much easier. It only works with emacs-based mailers and newsreaders, not elm. That means mh-e, rmail, vm, and gnus. >From the README: > Mailcrypt is an Emacs lisp package which provides a simple but > powerful interface to cryptographic functions for mail and news. With > Mailcrypt, encryption becomes a seamlessly integrated part of your > mail and news handling environment. > > Mailcrypt was written by Jin Choi (jsc@mit.edu) and Pat LoPresti > (patl@lcs.mit.edu). > > How to get > ---------- > > The latest version of Mailcrypt is probably available from > "ftp://cag.lcs.mit.edu/pub/patl/". If not, send Email to either > author. > > Independent documentation on using Mailcrypt with RMAIL can be found > at "http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/mailcrypt/mailcrypt.html". Several > examples are included. > > Requirements > ------------ > > Mailcrypt requires PGP (Pretty Good Privacy). For information on > obtaining PGP, refer to the newsgroup alt.security.pgp. The FAQ is > available from "ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.security.pgp/". > (Note: Mailcrypt is designed so that we can easily add support for > programs other than PGP, should we ever feel inclined to do so.) > > Mailcrypt requires version 19 of GNU Emacs. It has been tested both > with FSF Emacs and with XEmacs. It has also been tested under Unix > and OS/2; if you get it working under anything else, please let us > know and/or send us your patches. andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 08:08:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA10865 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:08:16 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA10857 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:08:14 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA19214; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:03:45 -0500 Message-Id: <9509081503.AA19214@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:03:45 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Logitech bus mouse problems Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, *NUM lock is off* I have a Logitech bus mouse and whenever I use the middle or right button, I get *both* the right and middle button pressed. I can test this by using xev. I thought that maybe I had enabled this as default behaviour from within Windows when I used the Mouse Control Center to set the middle and right buttons to automatic double clicks. But I disabled this behaviour and still have the problem. Here is an excerpt from my /etc/XF86Config: Section "Pointer" Protocol "Busmouse" Device "/dev/mse0 # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Buttons # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection I also have Linux installed and get the same exact behaviour. Any ideas short of buying a new (serial) mouse? Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 09:15:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA14308 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:15:25 -0700 Received: from devnull (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA14302 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:15:23 -0700 Received: from olympus by devnull (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA19927; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:15:08 -0500 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA01033; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:15:13 CDT From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9509081615.AA01033@olympus> Subject: Re: your mail To: pw@lysator.liu.se (P{r Winzell) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:15:13 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509080816.KAA07879@katinka.lysator.liu.se> from "P{r Winzell" at Sep 8, 95 10:16:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2260 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > I wrote a previous letter but it was in the midst of installation > confusion and didn't really contain direct and identifiable questions. > I have now been running my system happily and with impressive stability > for quite a some time, though, and I hope somebody will be able to > briefly answer me these two questions: > > A) Using a serial mouse for X, the pointer jitters all over the place. > Is anybody likely to fix the serial driver? Friends tell me the FreeBSD > serial driver is known to be buggy, which seems to me to be quite big a > problem for an operating system? > > B) Is there any chance of seeing a combined keyboard/mouse "PS/2-mouse"- > capable anytime soon? Altneratively a hack to the driver that exists > so that it works? (Currently, the probe for the mouse locks up the > keyboard). > > C) I have a definite bug in the NFS filesystem and it seems to me it could > only be on my end of the link that the problem lies. It is most easily > identified by simply su:ing to root and doing a 'mv' of a file to a NFS- > mounted filesystem. A chown will then be attempted, and fail, and some > buffer fails to flush properly because the destination file will be > truncated to some even number (eg a 51134-size file will be 49152). > This is obviously a rather serious problem and is keeping me from using > NFS for anything other than read-only-mounting eg the src directory. > > I do not run YP/NIS. Is the file-system exported from the server granting you root access? Boyd > > > I have briefly looked at the source for the NFS filesystem as well as the > serial driver but OS programming is so completely out of my scope that I > wouldn't know where to begin to look. So I am reduced to asking if anybody > who does know what to do is likely to do it in the future... > > I want to thank everybody involved for their efforts, and say that I hope > to be of at least some marginal use to the project some day. > > > Sincerely, > Pär Winzell > -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner - faulkner@isd.tandem.com - http://cactus.org/~faulkner _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 09:26:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA15127 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:26:27 -0700 Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA15120 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:26:25 -0700 Received: from RANDY by vellocet.insync.net (LAA21572); Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:22:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:22:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199509081622.LAA21572@vellocet.insync.net> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Brian Litzinger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: Re: watchdog board? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 01:22 AM 9/8/95 -0700, Brian Litzinger wrote: >Is there a cheap card out there that will push the reset button for >me if my machine hangs up? > Don't have the details in front of me, but Galacticomm (the BBS people) have a magazine with this board advertised. It was expensive for what it did (About $200 as I recall, a friend bought one for his bbs). The "keep-awake" program was dos-tsr based, so you would need to write something for it. Basically, it sent a timer reset signal to the board, and if the timer ever expired, it hit the switch. Unfortunately, the design substituted for the reset switch, rather than hooking up parallel. (You could rewire it easily enough, though.) Check boardwatch magazine for Galacticomm. Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm caught in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 09:37:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA15951 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:37:18 -0700 Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA15943 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:37:17 -0700 Received: from RANDY by vellocet.insync.net (LAA21600); Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:33:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:33:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199509081633.LAA21600@vellocet.insync.net> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: e.knight@ix.netcom.com (Edward F. Knight) From: Randy Berndt Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk DISCLAIMER: I have NO connection with Walnut Creek, or FreeBSD, except as a satisfied customer. At 08:31 PM 9/7/95 -0400, Edward F. Knight wrote: >>They say it is comming out this month. However, It will take Walnut Creek >Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is >issued. Then If you are a subscriber you will be last in the queue to get >the CDROM. I have been told by the folks at Walnut Creek that when they get >product if someone calls in that their CDROM will be shipped the same day >and that subscribers to the product have to wait for one mass pressing of >the cdrom which costs them approximately $0.67 and they sell for $39 regular >and $25 for subscription. Their attitude towards those of of us who have >been supporting them through subscription is convoluted. It's referred to as "production efficiencies". The cost goes so far down because THEY GAVE THE VENDOR MORE TIME TO DO IT. The vendor can schedule his machines and set up things to offer an attractive price. 39/25: Giving me a 35-40% discount for pre-ordering (so they CAN PLAN AHEAD for the mass pressing) is, to me, a good deal. They could just charge 39 to everybody. > >While I'm on a roll, I can't quite figure out where the dividing line >between FreeBSD.org and Walnut Creek Cdrom is. Many of the "officials" of >FreeBSD.org are employyees of Walnut Creek Cdrom. > Gee, let's see .... Walnut Creek pays salary, vacation benefits, sick time, Social Security, Unemployment tax, Medicare, State taxes (remember they are in California!) and god knows how many other costs, so that we have access to low-cost unix software (AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BUY THE CD, Walnut Creek provides FREE FTP SERVICE!) >Since there will be those who take the opposing point of view just to take >the opposing point of view, I welcome their comments. These comments should >make humorous bedtime reading which will ultimately help me fall asleep. > >Ted Knight > Then there are those who take the opposing view because your view appears to have been developed by the "Ted Knight" from the Mary Tyler Moore show. Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm caught in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 09:52:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA17417 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:52:21 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA17411 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:52:18 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: from rainier (rainier.dtr.com [204.119.48.36]) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA09316; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:45:14 -0700 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by rainier (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA00338; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:49:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199509081649.JAA00338@rainier> Subject: Re: PGP aware mailer ? To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509080533.AA029138409@hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Sep 8, 95 03:33:27 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 4023 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > How about does there exist any editor which can support pgp > stuff ? In which case, I was hoping that I can just change the > editor in elm instead of installing a new version of elm or > different mailer. Write a shell script wrapper that does this. PGP includes example scripts - I used the morepgp and mailpgp scripts to do exactly what you're looking for. - --- morepgp #!/usr/bin/perl # written by jason steiner, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu, Jan 1993 # # if you use or make improvements to this program i would appreciate # copies of your modifications & your PGP public key. $|=1; $topgp=0; $logname = $ENV{'LOGNAME'}; $pager='/usr/local/bin/less -i -n -s -S -c -M'; $pager = $ENV{'PAGER'} if ($ENV{'PAGER'}); umask 077; open (PAGER, "|$pager") || die "Cannot open pipe to $pager.\n"; print PAGER "\n"; while (<>) { if (!$topgp && m/^-----BEGIN PGP .*-----/) { $topgp = 1; $tmpfile = "/tmp/.pgp.$logname.$$"; unlink($tmpfile); open (TMPFILE, ">$tmpfile") || die "Cannot open $tmpfile for output.\n"; } if (!$topgp) { print PAGER; } else { print TMPFILE $_; if (m/^-----END PGP .*-----/) { $topgp = 0; close TMPFILE; open (CLEAR, "pgp -f < $tmpfile |") || die "Cannot open pipe to PGP.\n"; print PAGER "-----BEGIN PGP DECRYPTED BLOCK-----\n"; while () { print PAGER; } close CLEAR; unlink($tmpfile); print PAGER "-----END PGP DECRYPTED BLOCK-----\n"; } } } close PAGER; - --- mailpgp #!/usr/bin/perl ($visual = $ENV{'VISUAL'}) || ($visual = '/usr/bin/vi'); $topgp = 0; $blanks = 0; $paragraphs = 1; $blankcompress = 1; $name=@ARGV[$#ARGV]; umask (077); open (INPUT, "<$name"); open (OUTPUT, ">${name}.rply") || die "Cannot open ${name}.rply for output.\n"; while () { if (!$topgp && !m/^> -----BEGIN PGP .*-----/) { if (m/^> *$/) { if ($paragraphs) { if ($blankcompress) { if ($blanks == 0) { print OUTPUT "\n"; $blanks = 1; } } else { print OUTPUT "\n"; } } else { print OUTPUT; } } elsif (m/^ *$/) { if ($blankcompress) { if ($blanks == 0) { print OUTPUT "\n"; $blanks = 1; } } else { print OUTPUT; } } else { print OUTPUT; if ($. == 1 && !m/^> /) { print OUTPUT "\n"; $blanks = 1; } else { $blanks = 0; } } } if (!$topgp && m/^> -----BEGIN PGP .*-----/) { $topgp = 1; $tmpfile = "${name}.pgp", unlink ($tmpfile); open (TMPFILE, ">$tmpfile") || die "Cannot open $tmpfile for output.\n"; } if ($topgp) { $_ =~ s/^> //; print TMPFILE $_; if (m/^-----END PGP .*-----/) { $topgp = 0; close TMPFILE; $clrfile = "${name}.clr"; `pgp $tmpfile -o $clrfile`; open (CLEAR, "<$clrfile") || die "Cannot open $clrfile for input.\n"; print OUTPUT "-----BEGIN OF PGP DECRYPTED TEXT-----\n\n"; while () { if (m/^$/) { print OUTPUT "\n"; } else { print OUTPUT "> "; print OUTPUT; } } close CLEAR; unlink ($clrfile); unlink ($tmpfile); print OUTPUT "\n-----END OF PGP DECRYPTED TEXT-----\n\n"; } } } close OUTPUT; close INPUT; unlink ($name); rename ("${name}.rply", "$name"); system ($visual,@ARGV); while (!$q) { print "Sign this message? [Y]: "; $q = ; $q =~ s/[ \t\n]//g; $q = substr ($q, 0, 1); if (($q eq 'Y') || ($q eq 'y') || ($q eq '')) { push(@opts,'-st','+clearsig=on'); $q = "y"; } elsif (($q ne 'N') && ($q ne 'n')) { $q = ''; } } $q=''; while (!$q) { print "Encrypt this message? [N]: "; $q = ; $q =~ s/[ \t\n]//g; $q = substr ($q, 0, 1); if (($q eq 'Y') || ($q eq 'y')) { push(@opts,'-e'); $q = "y"; } elsif (($q ne 'N') && ($q ne 'n')) { $q = 'n'; } } if (@opts) { system ('pgp','-a',@opts,$name); if ($? == 0) { unlink ${name}; rename ("${name}.asc", "$name"); } } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBFAwUBMFB0F2ADWC0MDkc5AQF/hwGAgc8Beooqgb4PO8BwPkYKq9wiS39xOxOl AJzTYs8PWLdnkmfXVqLKwsvzDXfoggjp =CgXZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 09:55:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA17612 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:55:09 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA17605 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:55:06 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: from rainier (rainier.dtr.com [204.119.48.36]) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA09321; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:48:07 -0700 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by rainier (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA00383; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:52:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199509081652.JAA00383@rainier> Subject: Re: your mail To: pw@lysator.liu.se (P{r Winzell) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509080816.KAA07879@katinka.lysator.liu.se> from "P{r Winzell" at Sep 8, 95 10:16:31 am Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 446 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > B) Is there any chance of seeing a combined keyboard/mouse "PS/2-mouse"- > capable anytime soon? Altneratively a hack to the driver that exists > so that it works? (Currently, the probe for the mouse locks up the > keyboard). If I'm not mistaken, there is a directive that you need to put in your kernel config file: device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr ^^^^^^^^^ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 10:00:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA18078 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:00:35 -0700 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA18072 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:00:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA15614; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:59:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199509081659.KAA15614@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Steve Passe To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: pw@lysator.liu.se In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Sep 1995 10:16:31 +0200." <199509080816.KAA07879@katinka.lysator.liu.se> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 10:59:57 -0600 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, >A) Using a serial mouse for X, the pointer jitters all over the place. > Is anybody likely to fix the serial driver? Friends tell me the FreeBSD > serial driver is known to be buggy, which seems to me to be quite big a > problem for an operating system? i don't think this is the problem of the serial driver. the closest i can blue-sky to blaming it would be a combination of slow uart (xx450), a slow machine (80386, small memory) and a very high-res mouse that puts out alot of "ticks-per-inch". this might cuase an INTerrupt load that would cause a little jitter, but having said that, I have never seen this problem on any of a dozen FreeBSD/X machines i have setup. has anyone seen an X tool for adjusting the sensitivity of a mouse. xset allows you to multiply the effect, but not decrease it, this might be what this person needs. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 10:29:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA19593 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:29:17 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA19585 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:29:14 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA04318; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:22:44 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509081722.KAA04318@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: your mail To: pw@lysator.liu.se (P{r Winzell) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:22:44 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509080816.KAA07879@katinka.lysator.liu.se> from "P{r Winzell" at Sep 8, 95 10:16:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2903 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I wrote a previous letter but it was in the midst of installation > confusion and didn't really contain direct and identifiable questions. > I have now been running my system happily and with impressive stability > for quite a some time, though, and I hope somebody will be able to > briefly answer me these two questions: > > A) Using a serial mouse for X, the pointer jitters all over the place. > Is anybody likely to fix the serial driver? Friends tell me the FreeBSD > serial driver is known to be buggy, which seems to me to be quite big a > problem for an operating system? man 4 sio Add flag 0x0002 when rebuilding your kernel to disable the FIFO. The proper way to handle this is to disable the FIFO when the mouse line discipline is used, only X doesn't set the mouse line discipline. > B) Is there any chance of seeing a combined keyboard/mouse "PS/2-mouse"- > capable anytime soon? Altneratively a hack to the driver that exists > so that it works? (Currently, the probe for the mouse locks up the > keyboard). more /sys/i386/conf/LINT There are various options dealing with the PS/2 mouse probe lockup. The problem is that theres not a standard implementation of the hardware unless you are running a genuine IBM machine (in which case the thing doesn't lockup). > C) I have a definite bug in the NFS filesystem and it seems to me it could > only be on my end of the link that the problem lies. It is most easily > identified by simply su:ing to root and doing a 'mv' of a file to a NFS- > mounted filesystem. A chown will then be attempted, and fail, and some > buffer fails to flush properly because the destination file will be > truncated to some even number (eg a 51134-size file will be 49152). > This is obviously a rather serious problem and is keeping me from using > NFS for anything other than read-only-mounting eg the src directory. The chown "problem" was discussed in detail some time ago, and has to do with your expectation of the semantics. An 'mv; will *not* truncate a file unless that 'mv' is a copy (ie: across file systems). Potentially, there's an interaction with the chown failing (which in your case will only happen if you as a root user are attempting to do something for which the remote file system is not granting root permissions -- the default way remote file systems are exported in any case). This type of interaction will only take place if the server or client is doing caching /in violation of the protocol definition/. An aborted operation at that point may prevent a cache flush. > I do not run YP/NIS. Bad idea in an NFS environment. How you you make sure the files owned by "Bob" on the remote machine aren't owned by "Phil" on the local machine? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 10:30:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA19660 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:30:08 -0700 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu (holodeck.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA19654 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:30:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199509081730.KAA19654@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from as2511-23.sl014.cns.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.12/16.2) id NAA17802; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:29:54 -0400 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brian Maloney" Organization: Virginia Tech To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:31:23 +0500 Subject: Installation Problem! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to install 2.0.5 RELEASE on my computer, to my second HDD from my first. When the installation program tries to copy the ROOT image, it says it was unable to copy it. If I ALT-F2 to the other screen, it has "decompression dots" and below that it says: gunzip: stdin: Invalid compression character, or something along those lines. I have tried getting a replacement ROOT.FLP from ftp.cdrom.com, but this does not seem to fix the problem.. Any sugguestions? Brian Maloney Computer Science Major at: ** Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University** "Real Programmers don't sleep, their systems just go temporarily offline." -The 5th Wave From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 10:53:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA21070 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:53:39 -0700 Received: from Relay1.Austria.EU.net (relay1.Austria.EU.net [192.92.138.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA21064 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:53:36 -0700 From: marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at Received: from aut.alcatel.at (dnisun.aut.alcatel.at) by Relay1.Austria.EU.net with SMTP id AA11781 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:53:27 +0200 Received: from atuhc16 by aut.alcatel.at (4.1/SMI-4.1/AAA-1.29/main) id AA11464; Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:53:28 +0200 Message-Id: <9509081753.AA11464@atuhc16.aut.alcatel.at> Received: by atuhc16 (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA13026; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:53:21 +0200 Subject: Re: Installation Problem! To: brmalon2@vt.edu (Brian Maloney) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:53:20 METDST Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509081730.KAA19654@freefall.freebsd.org>; from "Brian Maloney" at Sep 8, 95 1:31 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to install 2.0.5 RELEASE on my computer, to my second > HDD from my first. When the installation program tries to copy the > ROOT image, it says it was unable to copy it. If I ALT-F2 to the other > screen, it has "decompression dots" and below that it says: > gunzip: stdin: Invalid compression character, or something along > those lines. I have tried getting a replacement ROOT.FLP from > ftp.cdrom.com, but this does not seem to fix the problem.. Any sugguestions? > Brian Maloney Computer Science Major at: > ** Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University** ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is that the genuine 2.0.5R, or the one distributed to CS students at Virginia Tech? The latter has faulty installation floppies, according to the folks who made them. New ones will be distributed soon. /Alby > "Real Programmers don't sleep, their systems just go temporarily offline." > -The 5th Wave From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 11:05:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA21937 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:05:15 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA21931 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:05:14 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA05067; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:04:45 -0600 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:04:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Handy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: De-installing Boot manager Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hey, If I want to demo FreeBSD on a computer and then take it off later...how do I go about killing the boot manager? Thanks Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 11:14:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA22409 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:14:38 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA22403 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:14:35 -0700 Received: from 137.226.31.2 by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HV14JZUZBK0000MP@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Fri, 08 Sep 1995 10:56:45 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id LAA00441 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:11:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 11:11:53 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: FreeBSD mirror site down time To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Message-id: <199509080911.LAA00441@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (FreeBSD mirror site in Germany) will be down over the weekend due to works on power lines equipment. The site will be up on Monday, Sept. 11th again. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 11:34:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA23817 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:34:47 -0700 Received: from ns.nationalnet.com (root@[198.168.83.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA23806 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:34:41 -0700 Received: from a06.nationalnet.com (a06.nationalnet.com [204.19.121.116]) by ns.nationalnet.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13175 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:50:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:50:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199509081850.OAA13175@ns.nationalnet.com> X-Sender: proceco@pop.nationalnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: proceco@ns.nationalnet.com (Gerald Laganiere) Subject: Which 2.05 Device for Terminals Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We have been trying to connect a hardwired terminal to com 1 on our freebsd box and we can't seem to get it right. We are using /dev/ttyd0 in getty. Getty is waiting after ` kill -HUP 1`. We are using wires 2,3,7 on our cable. We even tried to invert 2,3 in our testing. Question: Is ttyd0 the right device for terminals? Do we need more than wires 2,3,7 connected on our cable? Please respond directly to Gerry at Proceco@nationalnet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 11:43:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA24418 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:43:58 -0700 Received: from bsd1.crctraining.com (bsd1.crctraining.com [206.54.11.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA24411 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:43:52 -0700 Received: from bsd1.crctraining.com ([206.54.11.5]) by bsd1.crctraining.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA00328 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:42:31 GMT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:42:31 GMT Message-Id: <199509081142.LAA00328@bsd1.crctraining.com> X-Sender: byron@bsd1.crctraining.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: byron@crctraining.com (Byron Halbower) Subject: Tech Support Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have reciently purchased and installed FreeBsd . I created a user that I would like to remove. I have edited the passwd file and commented out that user, but he still can login. Please reply with step by step instructions for removing a user. I would also like to allow a user access to a specific directory but I am having alittle trouble with it. Is there any daemons available that would help me with administration on my unix machine at a graphic level? Thanks for your help Byron Halbower (byron@crctraining.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 11:55:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA25061 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:55:01 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA25043 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:54:55 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA14310; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:45:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:45:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Don's FList drop" To: questions Subject: Re: PGP aware mailer ? In-Reply-To: <199509081359.JAA08544@grapenuts.bellcore.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk pgpsendmail v1.4 was in the ports directory last time I looked. Go look in the ports page of www.freebsd.org and read the description, it may do what you want. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 12:04:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA26084 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:04:41 -0700 Received: from iii1.iii.net (iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA26074 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:04:39 -0700 Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA12558 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:04:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:04:19 -0400 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199509081904.PAA12558@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Kernel Question Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How do I add the gateway option to the kernel? Thanks., -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 12:21:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA28135 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:21:54 -0700 Received: from TRUTH.WOFFORD.EDU (truth.wofford.edu [199.190.174.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA28127 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:21:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: DAN WELCH To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <950908152147.60201016@wofford.edu> Subject: riscom8 multiport board Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Please help me get this RISCom board running! Here's what I have done: [1] In my new kernel config file I added these two lines: options COM_MULTIPORT #code for some cards with shared IRQs device rc0 at isa? port 0x220 tty irq 12 vector rcintr On the assumption that rc0 is a single device with multiple elements, I did not make a whole series of entries like I do for sio multiport. The compile proceeded without errors. The system reports the presence of board and 8 channels during boot. The dmesg lines are rc0 at 0x220 irq 12 on isa rc0: 8 chans, firmware rev. C [2] Looking in /dev/MAKEDEV convinced me that I needed to create /dev/ttym0 through /dev/ttym7 and perhaps /dev/cuam0 through /dev/cuam7 so I created both sets. [3] I placed these lines into /etc/ttys: ttym0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure ttym1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure ttym2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttym3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttym4 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttym5 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttym6 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttym7 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure The failure mode: The machine locks up at the first attempt to access the port. The error message rc0: chan 0: lost TX intr, reinit comes directly from rc.c (the driver) but I do not understand it. The failure occurs as soon as getty tries to start up on the port. I disabled getty and used Kermit to access the port manually. Same behavior. Thanks for reading this far. I sure could use some help! From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 12:25:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA28524 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:25:43 -0700 Received: from ftdetrck-ose1.army.mil (FTDETRCK-OSE1.ARMY.MIL [140.139.19.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA28518 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:25:41 -0700 Received: (from gyc@localhost) by ftdetrck-ose1.army.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA16129 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:25:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:25:11 -0400 From: GREG CASTELLUCCI Message-Id: <199509081925.PAA16129@ftdetrck-ose1.army.mil> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Advice Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks, I am a fairly new Unix Buff looking to turn my 486 33 PC into a Unix device/host What I am doing is trying to find out which Unix platform to go with Linux or FreeBSD. I have solid experience with the System V Unix administration & build and basically would like to widen my Unix knowledge to BSD and PC based systems. I am mainly concerned with all aspects incl. TCP/IP capablilities such as SMTP, World Wide Web Server, telnet, ftp, and LPR/LPD. Also looking for the best X-Windows and all around good documentation. My question is twofold, 1) which one of these platforms should I go with, and 2) How can I find good supporting documentation for them ? Can someone point me in the right direction. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me. Peace, Greg Castellucci US Army - Fort Detrick gyc@ftdetrck-ose1.army.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 12:46:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA00472 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:46:05 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA00437 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:45:34 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HV08GDGA8W001IEA@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Thu, 07 Sep 1995 19:37:34 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id TAA00309 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:53:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 19:53:40 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: in situ scsi formatting To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Message-id: <199509071753.TAA00309@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to low level format a SCSI drive under FreeBSD? I have one drive that has a media error and I don't want to run SCSICNTL.EXE from a DOS diskette. It would be nice to dismount the drive, send it the appropriate scsi commands (scsi) and partition and disklabel it afterwards. Has anyone done so? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 12:52:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA00975 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:52:15 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA00969 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:52:12 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA02602; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:52:02 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id PAA06629; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:52:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:51:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Byron Halbower cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tech Support In-Reply-To: <199509081142.LAA00328@bsd1.crctraining.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Byron Halbower wrote: > I have reciently purchased and installed FreeBsd . I created a user that I > would like to remove. I have edited the passwd file and commented out that > user, but he still can login. Please reply with step by step instructions > for removing a user. > > I would also like to allow a user access to a specific directory but I am > having alittle trouble with it. > > Is there any daemons available that would help me with administration on my > unix machine at a graphic level? I never heard of a comment feature in the passwd file. I really hope you used vipw to edit it, tho, because FreeBSD doesn't operate from that file, rather a database file that is created from it. vipw automatically calls utilities to rebuild that database after the editing, any other editor does not. Removing a user means simply deleting that user's line in the passwd file (using vipw!). Take a look at the man page for the passwd file by entering: man 5 passwd at the prompt. The last two fields are, in order, the user's home directory (their login directory), then the user's shell (the program called for the user at login. If you're unsure of yourself, don't worry, read the man page, then ask again, we'll help. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 12:57:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA01347 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:57:29 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA01310 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:57:20 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA19711; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:56:15 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id PAA06729; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:56:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:56:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: David Greenman cc: David Kelly , questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: current In-Reply-To: <199509080216.TAA00210@corbin.Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, David Greenman wrote: > >Chuck Robey said: > >> To get from there to current, you get the current sources using either > >> ctm or sup, then you go into single user and make world. > > > >Duh. Silly me should have thought of that "single user" business. Meanwhile > >when I built a 2.1-STABLE I did it multi-user. Was pretty amazed that it > >worked and replaced all my 2.0.5R binaries in the process. And didn't get > >caught in any loop. And its been humming right along for 8 days now... I > >was real pleased with myself too, until now. > > > >The Question: am I hosed? _Should_ I re-make world from single user or just > >wait for 2.1R? > > I don't think there is any problem with this. It isn't necessary to > shut down to single-user to do the rebuild. If it worked and you aren't > having any problems, then you should be fine. David, when I did this when doing my first make world (while back), it failed during the install phase, because libc was active and couldn't be swapped with the new one. This doesn't occur anymore? Howcome? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 13:04:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA01830 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:04:28 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA01824 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:04:26 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA19961; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:58:42 -0500 Message-Id: <9509081958.AA19961@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:58:42 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: in situ scsi formatting Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Is there a way to low level format a SCSI drive under FreeBSD? >I have one drive that has a media error and I don't want to run >SCSICNTL.EXE from a DOS diskette. > >It would be nice to dismount the drive, send it the appropriate >scsi commands (scsi) and partition and disklabel it afterwards. >Has anyone done so? Can't you use the scsi(8) command to format the drive? bash$ man scsi SCSI(8) UNIX System Manager's Manual SCSI(8) NAME scsi - program to assist with scsi devices. SYNOPSIS Usage: scsi -f device -d debug_level # To set debug level scsi -f device [-v] -z seconds # To freeze bus scsi -f device -m page [-P pc] [-e] # To read mode pages scsi -f device -p [-b bus] [-l lun] # To probe all devices scsi -f device -r [-b bus] [-t targ] [-l lun] # To reprobe a device scsi -f device [-v] [-s seconds] -c cmd_fmt [arg0 ... argn] # A command... -o count out_fmt [arg0 ... argn] # EITHER (for data out) -i count in_fmt # OR (for data in) [...] BUGS This command wasn't ready for inclusion in 2.0R and so is missing in that release. Some devices respond to an inquiry for all LUNS. This will cause them to come on line to 8 times during reprobe to different logical units. The "-i" option to do an inquiry went away in 2.1. The new facilities provided by "-c" supercede that. Check your permissions carefully. "scsi -f /dev/rsd0c -c "4 0 0 0 0 0" permits anyone who can open /dev/rsd0c to format the disk drive. This must be changed to at least require write access to the drive. HISTORY The scsi command appeared in 386BSD 0.1.2.4/FreeBSD to support the new reprobe and user SCSI commands. 4th Berkeley Distribution October 11, 1993 3 I've tried to do this in the process of trying to fix a broken Quantum and it seemed like it was working (the drive was hosed and prevented the command from completing). Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 13:12:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA02335 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:12:54 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA02321 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:12:48 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA19952; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:12:41 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id QAA07003; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:12:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:12:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: GREG CASTELLUCCI cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Advice In-Reply-To: <199509081925.PAA16129@ftdetrck-ose1.army.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, GREG CASTELLUCCI wrote: > Folks, > I am a fairly new Unix Buff looking to turn my 486 33 PC into a Unix device/host > What I am doing is trying to find out which Unix platform to go with Linux or > FreeBSD. I have solid experience with the System V Unix administration & build > and basically would like to widen my Unix knowledge to BSD and PC based systems. > I am mainly concerned with all aspects incl. TCP/IP capablilities such as SMTP, > World Wide Web Server, telnet, ftp, and LPR/LPD. Also looking for the best > X-Windows and all around good documentation. My question is twofold, 1) > which one of these platforms should I go with, and 2) How can I find good > supporting documentation for them ? Can someone point me in the right > direction. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me. This is pure flame bait, but I'll give some pointers. Realize you've asked here an audience that's interested in FreeBSD, so take it with a grain of salt. FreeBSD is generally credited with having superior network code, I don't guess anyone would argue with that, who's done any reading. Linux has a _huge_ user base, and that means you might be more likely to have a next door neighbor who can help you. That would be especailly important to newbies, but from your post, I can't tell, you say you are new, but that you have good SYSV experience, one seems to contradict the other. The XFree86 distribution is the base for both the Linux and the FreeBSD X bases, so no difference there. Our tech support, via email, isn't second best to anyone's. A feature of FreeBSD, our ports collection, make building applications incredibly simple, and the collection is _huge_. On the other hand, Linux seems to have a larger base of software written specifically for it. Maybe more commercial applications, altho we are getting compatibility for that, even as I type this (mostly in place or in test). Linux's filesystem might be somewhat faster. FreeBSD's filesystem code has taken a deliberate move toward extra safety at some loss in speed. I can shut my machine off right now, and be much less likely to suffer any filesystem damage at all. Ask a Linux user about lost files from power outages. I've lost one file in 18 months (hardware problem). All in all, the differences aren't large, and anyone who tells you that one is MUCH better than the other is either misinformed or untrustworthy. The differences are more in style than anything else. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 14:37:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA07261 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:37:08 -0700 Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA07251 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:36:59 -0700 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id QAA09079 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:36:21 -0500 Received: from segfs001.rollingmdws.pamd.cig.mot.com (segfs001.rollingmdws.pamd.cig.mot.com [160.4.63.51]) by pobox.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id QAA19878 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:36:20 -0500 Received: from segws002.rollingmdws.pamd.cig.mot.com by segfs001.rollingmdws.pamd.cig.mot.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0srB5w-0011QzC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 16:36 CDT Received: by segws002.rollingmdws.pamd.cig.mot.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0srB3C-000VWVC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 16:33 CDT From: rthomas@pamd.cig.mot.com (Robert Owen Thomas) Message-Id: <9509081633.ZM4216@pamd.cig.mot.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:33:30 -0500 X-Face: '+o0q01K;YU[Po[u16e?snj8;Ph$olcxk+[`d9&@_u}|*>qi52AcH"6z36pohM2<-EvKgoH[/FTF`GG)Csl`+9(6V/3W/BC9Pu3l0\2y$wGP@bj!Yn~f=_#.x.dYzEWFDe_MLBUIK\n[nkM_sq}/OjBILuOP$:F1#;YjjN3?PG8CJTwD"p/zT~^V_MqO\e; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:58:01 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA01484; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:56:47 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509082156.OAA01484@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Advice To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: gyc@ftdetrck-ose1.army.mil, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Sep 8, 95 04:12:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1178 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A couple of points to add.. > > On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, GREG CASTELLUCCI wrote: > > A feature of FreeBSD, our ports collection, make building applications > incredibly simple, and the collection is _huge_. On the other hand, > Linux seems to have a larger base of software written specifically for > it. Maybe more commercial applications, altho we are getting > compatibility for that, even as I type this (mostly in place or in test). (meaning that we can run linux programs so anything written for them is ok by us) > > Linux's filesystem might be somewhat faster. FreeBSD's filesystem code > has taken a deliberate move toward extra safety at some loss in speed. I > can shut my machine off right now, and be much less likely to suffer any > filesystem damage at all. Ask a Linux user about lost files from power > outages. I've lost one file in 18 months (hardware problem). we have linux filesystem code coming on line too in a short while.. > > All in all, the differences aren't large, and anyone who tells you that > one is MUCH better than the other is either misinformed or untrustworthy. > The differences are more in style than anything else. > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 15:00:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA08756 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:00:34 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA08746 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:00:31 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: from rainier (rainier.dtr.com [204.119.48.36]) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA09588; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:53:30 -0700 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by rainier (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00581; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:58:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199509082158.OAA00581@rainier> Subject: Re: De-installing Boot manager To: handy@condor.physics.montana.edu (Brian Handy) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Handy" at Sep 8, 95 12:04:45 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 155 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Hey, > If I want to demo FreeBSD on a computer and then take it off later...how > do I go about killing the boot manager? Boot DOS, run fdisk /mbr. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 15:05:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA09165 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:05:29 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA09158 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:05:27 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA01506; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:05:19 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509082205.PAA01506@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD setup problem To: rthomas@pamd.cig.mot.com (Robert Owen Thomas) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9509081633.ZM4216@pamd.cig.mot.com> from "Robert Owen Thomas" at Sep 8, 95 04:33:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1789 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ok, well, for a start you should look at getting a newer freebsd release. 2.0 is now 9 months old if we can build a baby in that time imagine how much it's been changed! :) 2.0.5 is available for ftp. the boot disk is a single disk. You shoud be able to ftp that from ftp.freebsd.org > > hello, all-- > > well, since i have heard FreeBSD's support is second to none...8-) well we try.. > > i am attempting to load FreeBSD on a Zeos tower. the configuration is: > 1) 486 DX2 66mhz ok > 2) 8 MB RAM ok > 3) 340 MB IDE Hard drive (all dos FAT-16) ok > 4) 573 MB CDC SCSI-1 hard drive on an Adaptec 1522 controller 1522 is SLOW.. don't expect performance here.. > 5) Mitsumi IDE CD-Rom drive attached to the Mitsumi controller IDE cdrom support starts in -current, it came in too late for 2.0.5 unfortunatly > 6) 3-1/2" Floppy drive ("a:") ok > 7) Sound Blaster Pro sound card no idea.. I don't do sound :) > > the problem is this: when i insert the FreeBSD 2.0 boot floppy, everything > goes according to plan until it attempts to mount the floppy device as the > root filesystem. it then panics and reboots. after the reboot, my bios > tells me that the floppy drive is not correct. i then enter my CMOS setup, > and save & exit (my floppy is, indeed, still correct in the setup). hmmm... > both MS-DOS and Linux (ugh, which is worse?) load and operate without error. do try a newer disk.. > +----------------------------------+ ______ _ __ | __--_|\ Julian Elischer | \ U \/ / On assignment | / \ julian@ref.tfs.com +------>x USA \ in a very strange | ( OZ ) 300 lakeside Dr. oakland CA. \___ ___ | country ! +- X_.---._/ USA+(510) 645-3137(wk) \_/ \\ v From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 15:08:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA09331 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:08:18 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA09323 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:08:17 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA01515; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:06:55 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509082206.PAA01515@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: in situ scsi formatting To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509071753.TAA00309@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at Sep 7, 95 07:53:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 514 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk yes you can, using the 'scsi(8)' program I haven't done it however, but you can send it almost any scsi command. > > Is there a way to low level format a SCSI drive under FreeBSD? > I have one drive that has a media error and I don't want to run > SCSICNTL.EXE from a DOS diskette. > > It would be nice to dismount the drive, send it the appropriate > scsi commands (scsi) and partition and disklabel it afterwards. > Has anyone done so? > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 15:21:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA10112 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:21:21 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA10104 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:21:18 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id RAA12980; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:12:11 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA02520; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:19:58 GMT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:19:58 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: Michael Smith cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slip - dilemma (Can't use PPP) In-Reply-To: <199509080437.OAA00971@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Pardon me for being baffled, but how does chat know where to direct itself? > > I know this works with pppd but when I use this setup as is chat does not > > dial out. > > Chat talks to stdin/stdout, which slattach redirects to the serial port. > > > after I; > > > > slattach -f /root/slipdial /dev/cuaa0 > > > > 3 seconds later ... > > > > date slattach [PID]: SIGHUP on /dev/cuaa3 (sl-1); running /root/slipdial > > cuaa0 or cuaa3? The numbers have to match 8) Excuse me, that was a type-o on my part, both were set for cuaa3 (internal modem) > > > and if I ps -x > > > > sh -c /root/slipdial > > /bin/sh /root/slipdial > > chat -f /root/slip-chat > > slip-chat or slip.chat as oritically specified? I had named it slip-chat but I have since renamed it back to chat.script for consistency in future debugging > > > But nothing happens. Did I miss something? > > Depends; I need to know whether the mismatches are typos or not. > Still had problems, so tried it on cuaa0 and it works fine. I had to remove faxgetty from ttys for cuaa0 to make it work though. Strange, I never had problems with internal modem before. I will continue to investigate why cuaa3 does'nt work but in the mean time, thanks for everything. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 15:27:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA10404 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:27:48 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA10398 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:27:45 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id RAA26764; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:18:45 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA02534; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:27:13 GMT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:27:12 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: Gerald Laganiere cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which 2.05 Device for Terminals In-Reply-To: <199509081850.OAA13175@ns.nationalnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Gerald Laganiere wrote: > We have been trying to connect a hardwired terminal to com 1 on our freebsd box > and we can't seem to get it right. We are using /dev/ttyd0 in getty. Getty > is waiting after ` kill -HUP 1`. We are using wires 2,3,7 on our cable. We > even tried to invert 2,3 in our testing. > > Question: Is ttyd0 the right device for terminals? > > Do we need more than wires 2,3,7 connected on our cable? > > Please respond directly to > Gerry at > Proceco@nationalnet.com > You will find the answer in an old FAQ For a 2 DB-25 connectors at each end, wire as follows: 2 --> 3 3 --> 2 7 --> 7 and short out (4 & 5) and (6, 8 & 20) at each end. HA! HA! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 15:28:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA10451 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:28:04 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA10443 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:28:01 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA07630; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:26:58 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id SAA12918; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:26:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:26:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Julian Elischer cc: Robert Owen Thomas , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD setup problem In-Reply-To: <199509082205.PAA01506@ref.tfs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Julian Elischer wrote: > ok, well, for a start you should look at getting a newer freebsd release. > 2.0 is now 9 months old > if we can build a baby in that time imagine how much > it's been changed! :) > > 2.0.5 is available for ftp. > the boot disk is a single disk. You shoud be able to ftp that > from ftp.freebsd.org > > > > > hello, all-- > > > > > well, since i have heard FreeBSD's support is second to none...8-) > well we try.. > > > > > i am attempting to load FreeBSD on a Zeos tower. the configuration is: > > 1) 486 DX2 66mhz > ok > > 2) 8 MB RAM > ok > > 3) 340 MB IDE Hard drive (all dos FAT-16) > ok > > 4) 573 MB CDC SCSI-1 hard drive on an Adaptec 1522 controller > 1522 is SLOW.. don't expect performance here.. > > 5) Mitsumi IDE CD-Rom drive attached to the Mitsumi controller > IDE cdrom support starts in -current, it came in too late for 2.0.5 > unfortunatly > > 6) 3-1/2" Floppy drive ("a:") > ok > > 7) Sound Blaster Pro sound card > no idea.. I don't do sound :) > > > > the problem is this: when i insert the FreeBSD 2.0 boot floppy, everything > > goes according to plan until it attempts to mount the floppy device as the > > root filesystem. it then panics and reboots. after the reboot, my bios > > tells me that the floppy drive is not correct. i then enter my CMOS setup, > > and save & exit (my floppy is, indeed, still correct in the setup). hmmm... > > both MS-DOS and Linux (ugh, which is worse?) load and operate without error. > do try a newer disk.. You didn't mention the soundblister before, I think. I had troubles with my first one, not FreeBSD troubles, because the documentation lied about the memory it used. It wanted to use 0x300 for an IOADDR, while my Adaptex wanted 0x330-0x335, which seemed ok. It wasn't, the Soundblister interfered with the Adaptex controller. I moved the Adaptec controller to it's secondary spot, at 0x130-0x135, where it ran fine, and no longer interfered with the soundblister. Gee, did I make a Freudian slip? (go get a GUS card!) ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 16:11:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA12882 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:11:33 -0700 Received: from tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA12876 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:11:31 -0700 Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA21686; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:11:15 +1000 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:11:15 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: Brian Handy cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: De-installing Boot manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Brian Handy wrote: > > Hey, > > If I want to demo FreeBSD on a computer and then take it off later...how > do I go about killing the boot manager? > > Thanks > > Brian > try (from DOS) fdisk /mbr ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 16:34:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA14733 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:34:50 -0700 Received: from rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA14723 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:34:48 -0700 Received: from [130.83.177.12] (ppp12.stud.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.177.12]) by rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id BAA26010 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:34:10 +0200 X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:34:12 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: beckmann@powermac.stud.th-darmstadt.de (Michael Beckmann) Subject: Re: HELP: how to delete an account Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 11:17 Uhr 4.9.1995, Wolfram Schneider wrote: >Tianlin WANG writes: >>There is a command adduser to add an account. Is there >>a similar command to delete an account? > >Yes, removeuser. Guy Helmer wrote it. Interesting, but where IS that program ? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 16:39:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA15018 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:39:03 -0700 Received: from mpp.minn.net (mpp.Minn.Net [204.157.201.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA15010 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:39:00 -0700 Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.minn.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA05487; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:36:45 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199509082336.SAA05487@mpp.minn.net> Subject: Re: PGP aware mailer ? To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:36:45 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509080200.AA218565641@hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Sep 8, 95 12:00:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 764 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk M C Wong wrote: > > Hi, > Is there a PGP-aware mailer out there ? I want to be able to do the > following in one step with the mailer without starting a sub-shell : > > 1) decrypt and read PGP'ed message. > 2) sign and/or encrypt a message while sending/replying/forwarding > and only type in receipients' public keys. > > For example, to pgp signed this very article, I have to do it outside > elm, 8-(( > > Thanks in advance. Take a look at /usr/ports/mail/elm.with_pgp. After you type in the message, at the "e)dit h)eaders ... s)end" prompt, the "p)gp" option has been added to allow you to sign, or encrypt the message before sending it. -- Mike Pritchard mpp@mpp.minn.net "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 16:45:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA15381 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:45:13 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA15373 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:45:09 -0700 Received: from asylum.asylum.org by relay3.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQzgjf04286; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:45:06 -0400 Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id SAA14890; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:47:24 -0400 From: dlr Message-Id: <199509082247.SAA14890@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Question To: shorty@iii.net (Justin Seger) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509081904.PAA12558@iii1.iii.net> from "Justin Seger" at Sep 8, 95 03:04:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 224 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk | |How do I add the gateway option to the kernel? Thanks., |-Justin Seger- | Add the following line to your kernel config file and recompile the kernel. options GATEWAY #internetwork gateway dave From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 17:57:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA20401 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:57:39 -0700 Received: from efn.efn.org (root@efn.org [198.68.17.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA20395 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:57:37 -0700 Received: from garcia.efn.org by efn.efn.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA10629; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:56:42 PDT Received: from nike.efn.org (garcia.efn.org) by garcia.efn.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08696; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:57:16 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney To: Gifka Sovereign Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Using IIJPPP with SLiRP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Gifka Sovereign wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > > [My plea for help and location for textfiles deleted] > > > > well... I lost my config files during a hd crash... and I didn't have a > > back up... but for iijppp to work with SLiRP isn't hard... you just need > > to make sure that you have the dial chat script and the login chat script > > working... just take a look at /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.sample and that should > > help... if you need more specifices... like and example login script I > > will help... > > > > if you have trouble getting the login script to work... do a "show modem" > > in ppp... and you should see your login line... this way you can make > > sure you have the puncuation (i.e. "\") in the right places... sorry I > > really can't give you any files... TTYL... > > Thank you John-Mark for your generous offer to help! Fortunately, I've > figured out the problem on my own; though admittedly, I'm not connecting > to SLiRP 0.95e with iijppp (No matter what I tried, iijppp just wouldn't > negotiate the connection properly). if this was just doing a term to dial and log in... what you needed to do was a "~p" to put it into packet mode... it seems strange... but SLiRP doesn't send out the initing packets like all other ppps do... so you have to tell it that there is ppp on the other end... I had the same problem... but if you dial with chat scripts... it automaticly goes into packet mode after the login script is complete... > Rather than fool around for another week with iijppp, I compiled > another kernel with PPP pseudo-device support and used pppd instead. It > worked the first time out, and I promptly cursed myself out for not doing > this sooner. :) of course with iijppp you can do auto dial... i haven't quite gotten it to work perfectly with SLiRP but it is possible... TTYL... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org Modem/FAX: (503) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 19:05:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA23945 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:05:49 -0700 Received: from iii1.iii.net (iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA23935 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:05:46 -0700 Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA27093 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:04:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:04:55 -0400 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199509090204.WAA27093@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Network problems, please assist Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've managed to contect FreeBSD to the internet, and I've managed to telnet to this machine from another machine on my LAN via an ethernet card, but I can't telnet from the other machine to a machine on the internet. Could someone assist me in fixing this? Thanks in advance. -Justin Sege-r From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 20:07:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA28877 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 20:07:46 -0700 Received: from efn.efn.org (root@efn.org [198.68.17.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA28871 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 20:07:44 -0700 Received: from garcia.efn.org by efn.efn.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA16502; Fri, 8 Sep 95 20:06:49 PDT Received: from nike.efn.org (haus.efn.org) by garcia.efn.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17080; Fri, 8 Sep 95 20:07:34 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 20:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney To: Justin Seger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network problems, please assist In-Reply-To: <199509090204.WAA27093@iii1.iii.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Justin Seger wrote: > I've managed to contect FreeBSD to the internet, and I've managed to telnet to > this machine from another machine on my LAN via an ethernet card, but I can't > telnet from the other machine to a machine on the internet. Could someone assist > me in fixing this? Thanks in advance. make sure you have a default router declared in your /etc/sysconfig file... there probablly is a line that reads "defaultrouter=NO" you need to change the no to the name/ip address of your router that goes to the rest of internet... usally it will be x.x.x.1... hope this helps... TTYL.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org Modem/FAX: (503) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 22:20:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA03510 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:20:53 -0700 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (gif@netcom18.netcom.com [192.100.81.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03504 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:20:52 -0700 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA13458; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:17:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Gifka Sovereign Subject: Re: Using IIJPPP with SLiRP To: John-Mark Gurney cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > if this was just doing a term to dial and log in... what you needed to do > was a "~p" to put it into packet mode... it seems strange... but SLiRP > doesn't send out the initing packets like all other ppps do... so you > have to tell it that there is ppp on the other end... I had the same > problem... but if you dial with chat scripts... it automaticly goes into > packet mode after the login script is complete... I did the "~p" and iijppp did go into packet mode. According to the capitolized "PPP xx xxxx>" line, it did go into packet mode and for all intents and purposes, it seemed to be working. But I could do nothing afterwards. After 3 minutes, iijppp would logout and disconnect the modem from the line. > of course with iijppp you can do auto dial... i haven't quite gotten it > to work perfectly with SLiRP but it is possible... TTYL... That's a handy feature, indeed! When I regain my sanity from my PPP ordeal, I'll have to look into iijppp again. :) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 22:22:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA03573 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:22:05 -0700 Received: from gateway.us.sidwell.edu (gateway.us.sidwell.edu [198.3.254.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03564 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:21:59 -0700 Received: (from rwatson@localhost) by gateway.us.sidwell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA08776; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:21:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:21:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: rwatson@gateway.us.sidwell.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SMC Ethernet card (EzEther) in PnP Pentium Message-ID: Organization: The Sidwell Friends School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm about to install FreeBSD 2.0.5R on my new Pentium 120 w/32 megs ram and 1 gig scsi (it's a gateway 2000, if that helps). I purchased a set of EtherEZ SMC cards (10baseT) to hook up to the CMU dorm network. I used to run off of SMC Elite Ultra coax cards, and those worked fine, but I hadn't ralized how different the new cards are. I have FreeBSD on my 386sx20 (eek!) where it has been running happily (in various versions) for at least a year. I'd like to get it on my pentiuma nd run it full time there to pick up a WWW server and so on. The plug and play features on the pentium are rather hyperactive, so I tried disabling them,. essentially, I've found that, even using the same configuration as under my old car, things don't work right. I get various errors (timeouts on ed0 on installation attemts, etc.) The card is recognized by the driver though, ethernet address, etc. Does anyone have any experience getting this card to talk to freebsd? or vice versa? I tried hard configuring, but Windows 95 (which I am runingn until freebsd starts working with the card) has a tendancy to reconfigure using PnP, but FreeBSD doesn't. Ah well, advice would be apprecaited. Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) IDS/CS Double Major School of Humanities and Social Sciences, Carnegie Mellon University SMC 1605 / P.O. Box 2888 / Pittsburgh, PA 15230-2888 // (412) 862-3197 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 22:51:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA04415 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:51:01 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA04409 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:51:00 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA00400; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:49:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA25861; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:52:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199509090552.WAA25861@corbin.Root.COM> To: Robert Watson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMC Ethernet card (EzEther) in PnP Pentium In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Sep 95 01:21:49 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 22:52:00 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >configuration as under my old car, things don't work right. I get >various errors (timeouts on ed0 on installation attemts, etc.) The card >is recognized by the driver though, ethernet address, etc. > >Does anyone have any experience getting this card to talk to freebsd? or >vice versa? I tried hard configuring, but Windows 95 (which I am runingn >until freebsd starts working with the card) has a tendancy to reconfigure >using PnP, but FreeBSD doesn't. The EtherEZ is known working with FreeBSD. The problem you've described sounds very much like either the irq isn't configured correctly in the kernel, or the media type isn't selcted properly (isn't there a soft config program that came with the card to set this??). You might try setting the irq to -1 in 'userconfig' (-c at boot). This will tell the driver to attempt to use the irq setting it discovers from the card. Sorry I can't be more help at the moment; I hope these clues are useful. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 23:22:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA04988 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:22:14 -0700 Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu (spaz@saul1.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA04982 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:22:12 -0700 Received: by saul1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16561; Fri, 8 Sep 95 23:22:11 -0700 X-Sender: spaz@saul1.u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:22:11 -0700 (PDT) From: John Utz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: where is sigill, sigfloat? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks; what library contains the BSD SIG*S? you know, the things in the front chapter of nemeth, brooks et all i tried libcom_err and libgcc, but without luck.. any suggestions? tnx! ******************************************************************************* John Utz spaz@stein.u.washington.edu idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 8 23:56:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA05417 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:56:04 -0700 Received: from efn.efn.org (root@efn.org [198.68.17.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA05411 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:56:02 -0700 Received: from garcia.efn.org by efn.efn.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA28891; Fri, 8 Sep 95 23:55:07 PDT Received: from nike.efn.org (garcia.efn.org) by garcia.efn.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01208; Fri, 8 Sep 95 23:55:49 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:57:27 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney To: Gifka Sovereign Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Using IIJPPP with SLiRP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Gifka Sovereign wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > if this was just doing a term to dial and log in... what you needed to do > > was a "~p" to put it into packet mode... it seems strange... but SLiRP > > doesn't send out the initing packets like all other ppps do... so you > > have to tell it that there is ppp on the other end... I had the same > > problem... but if you dial with chat scripts... it automaticly goes into > > packet mode after the login script is complete... > > I did the "~p" and iijppp did go into packet mode. According to the > capitolized "PPP xx xxxx>" line, it did go into packet mode and for all > intents and purposes, it seemed to be working. But I could do nothing > afterwards. After 3 minutes, iijppp would logout and disconnect the > modem from the line. I have this same problem... it seems that SLiRP sends down some packets that isn't echoed by ijjppp... at least that is what I remeber from the logs with level set to 9... or SLiRP doesn't return the echo packets... I was looking and twice it shutdown on me also... once after 185 seconds... another at 181 seconds... I haven't looked more into this problem... as slip works quite fine... I might soon though... > > of course with iijppp you can do auto dial... i haven't quite gotten it > > to work perfectly with SLiRP but it is possible... TTYL... > > That's a handy feature, indeed! When I regain my sanity from my PPP > ordeal, I'll have to look into iijppp again. :) yeh... I know it was quite hard... the scripts are the hardest :)... TTYL.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org Modem/FAX: (503) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 03:55:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA12191 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 03:55:17 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA12185 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 03:55:16 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA08485; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 04:54:46 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 04:54:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Handy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: fdc0 and mse0 IRQing each other Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi again, I'm trying to set up FreeBSD on a nice new pentium right now, and I've come up against the following conflict: [...] mse0 at 0x23c irq 6 on isa [...] fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0 not probed due to irq conflict with mse0 at 6 [...] And boot goes fine from there. What do I need to do to fix this? I also note that once I get X up, the mouse doesn't work...but that could certainly have everything to do with the @#%^ XF86config setup I'm using. (It's a Logitech bus mouse.) Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 04:31:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA15111 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 04:31:29 -0700 Received: from planet.ak.planet.co.nz (ak.planet.co.nz [202.36.28.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA15101 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 04:31:27 -0700 Received: from chn by planet.ak.planet.co.nz with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0srO4X-0004weC; Sat, 9 Sep 95 23:27 NZST Received: by chn.ak.planet.gen.nz (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sat, 09 Sep 95 20:59:36 -12 for questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 20:59:33 EDT From: jimmy@chn.ak.planet.gen.nz (Jimmy Chen) Subject: Help! Which files to download ? Reply-To: jimmy@chn.ak.planet.gen.nz To: questions@freebsd.org Lines: 9 Message-Id: <213bujr5f@chn.ak.planet.gen.nz> X-Mailer: Alamito Mail and News Manager (V1.2.1) (unregistered) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello : I am a newbie of unix who is interested in installing FreeBSD on my system, however, after browsing through .../FreeBSD/2.0.5-RELEASE/ on one of the mirror sites, and read some of the introductory documentations, I still don't quite know which file I should download for the installation (from dos partition). I know that I would need .../floppies/*.* . Do I need files from any other directories ? Thanks in advance from any advice you can give me. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 05:43:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA15908 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 05:43:43 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA15902 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 05:43:41 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA20710; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 07:39:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9509091239.AA20710@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 07:39:16 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: questions@freebsd.org, rwatson@sidwell.edu Subject: Re: SMC Ethernet card (EzEther) in PnP Pentium Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > The EtherEZ is known working with FreeBSD. The problem you've described >sounds very much like either the irq isn't configured correctly in the kernel, >or the media type isn't selcted properly (isn't there a soft config program >that came with the card to set this??). You might try setting the irq to -1 >in 'userconfig' (-c at boot). This will tell the driver to attempt to use the >irq setting it discovers from the card. Sorry I can't be more help at the >moment; I hope these clues are useful. I would also suggest using the DOS/Windows configuration routine that came with the card to set the IRQ, port address, and IO memory address to values known not to conflict with any of your other installed devices. I had to do this on an EtherEZ in a FreeBSD box at work. I also had to use the Dos configuration utility twice to get the settings I wanted. I don't know why they didn't take first time - probably operator error, but it wasn't evident what I did wrong. If you get any conflicts detected while using the DOS setup utility, then I don't think the settings take either - plus you've probably got a conflict with another device. Don't forget to boot with the -c option as David suggests and set your IRQ, IOMEM, and PORT appropriately. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 06:44:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA17221 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 06:44:25 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA17215 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 06:44:24 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA18765; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:44:21 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id JAA00868; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:44:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:44:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: John Utz cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where is sigill, sigfloat? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, John Utz wrote: > > Hi folks; > > what library contains the BSD SIG*S? you know, the things in the > front chapter of nemeth, brooks et all You mean the signal names, or the signal routines? I don't have the book you refer to, but the signal names can be picked out of /usr/include/sys/signal.h. > > i tried libcom_err and libgcc, but without luck.. > > any suggestions? > tnx! > ******************************************************************************* > John Utz spaz@stein.u.washington.edu > idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 08:01:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA18028 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 08:01:43 -0700 Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu (spaz@saul1.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA18022 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 08:01:42 -0700 Received: by saul1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27359; Sat, 9 Sep 95 08:01:36 -0700 X-Sender: spaz@saul1.u.washington.edu Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 08:01:32 -0700 (PDT) From: John Utz To: Chuck Robey Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where is sigill, sigfloat? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi chuckr; On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, John Utz wrote: > > > > > Hi folks; > > > > what library contains the BSD SIG*S? you know, the things in the > > front chapter of nemeth, brooks et all > > You mean the signal names, or the signal routines? I don't have the book > you refer to, but the signal names can be picked out of > /usr/include/sys/signal.h. the signal routines! sorry! > > > > i tried libcom_err and libgcc, but without luck.. > > > > any suggestions? > > tnx! > > ******************************************************************************* > > John Utz spaz@stein.u.washington.edu > > idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life > > > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > ******************************************************************************* John Utz spaz@stein.u.washington.edu idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 10:16:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA20029 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 10:16:14 -0700 Received: from dira.bris.ac.uk (dira.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA20023 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 10:16:13 -0700 Received: from kukini.cs.bris.ac.uk by dira.bris.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:16:09 +0100 Received: from kiha by kukini.compsci.bristol.ac.uk id aa04289; 9 Sep 95 17:19 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Swap questions... Date: Sat, 09 Sep 95 18:15:46 +0100 Message-ID: <24837.810666946@kiha> From: David Hedley Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just installed FreeBSD on an old 486 for evaluation purposes (I currently administer 10 Linux based PCs), and have a couple of questions: Making more swap space: Is there an equivalent program to Linux's 'mkswap' for making a new swap partition/swap file? and is it actually possible to use a swap file instead of a swap partition? I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that it was possible, but I can't find a program which will do this. cheers David -- David Hedley (David.Hedley@bris.ac.uk) http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~hedley/ finger hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk for PGP key Computer Graphics Group | University of Bristol | UK *** All opinions expressed are mine and mine alone *** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 11:06:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA21825 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:06:50 -0700 Received: from phoenix.volant.org (volant.scruznet.com [205.179.79.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA21816 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:06:46 -0700 From: patl@asimov.volant.org Received: from asimov.volant.org (asimov.volant.org [205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA25401 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:05:47 -0700 Received: by asimov.volant.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04049; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:11:15 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:11:15 -0700 Message-Id: <9509091811.AA04049@asimov.volant.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Directory sizes Reply-To: lashley@netcom.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk If I have a large number of files, and I want efficient access, are there any good rules-of-thumb for adjusting depth-vs-breadth in the filesystem? In other words, (approximately) how many entries can a directory hold before it is more efficient to go deeper and add another directory lookup? Assume that files being created or accessed will be randomly placed in the hierarchy. Thanks, -Pat From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 11:17:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA22441 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:17:32 -0700 Received: from hti.harmon.com (hti.harmon.com [205.161.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA22434 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:17:29 -0700 Received: from neilnotebook ([205.161.41.149]) by hti.harmon.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14278 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:16:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:16:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199509091816.OAA14278@hti.harmon.com> X-Sender: neil@harmon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: neil@harmon.com (Neil Harmon) Subject: Upgrade question Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm very happlily using FreeBSD 2.0 and am now planning on upgrading to 2.0.5. I have the Walnut Vreek CDs so access to the code is no issue. I'm trying to figure out the best way to upgrade my system while keeping my configuration. My system is my Internet gateway so I want to avoid having to re-install ppp scripts, inittab stuff, etc. I've heard that there was a discussion about upgrade on usenet but my feed apparently expired it before I got to them. Any hints or advice would be welcome. Tnx, ----------------------------------------------------------------- Neil A. Harmon Voice: (508)692-0097 Harmon Technologies, Inc. neil@harmon.com Fax: (508)692-0097 234 Littleton Road Westford, MA 01886 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 11:21:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA22552 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:21:17 -0700 Received: from hti.harmon.com (hti.harmon.com [205.161.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA22541 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:21:15 -0700 Received: from neilnotebook ([205.161.41.149]) by hti.harmon.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14253; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:11:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:11:07 -0400 From: User Neil Message-Id: <199509091811.OAA14253@hti.harmon.com> Apparently-To: Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 11:21:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA22569 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:21:20 -0700 Received: from hti.harmon.com (hti.harmon.com [205.161.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA22550 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:21:17 -0700 Received: from neilnotebook ([205.161.41.149]) by hti.harmon.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14255; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:12:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:12:08 -0400 From: User Neil Message-Id: <199509091812.OAA14255@hti.harmon.com> Apparently-To: Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 11:37:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA22838 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:37:13 -0700 Received: from FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA22832 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:37:13 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA12883; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:37:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:37:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: amanda-users@cs.umd.edu cc: questions Subject: problem with amdump Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting the following message from amdump: PATH:/usr/local/libexec/amanda: Command not found. Bad : modifier in $ (/). This is on FreeBSD 2.0.5 All of the other amanda programs seem to be working: amcheck, amlabel, amadmin. I also don't see any recent mail archives to refer to this. Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 12:35:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA25251 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:35:37 -0700 Received: from zonk.geko.com.au (root@zonk.geko.com.au [203.2.239.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA25241 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:35:32 -0700 Received: from zappa.arksoft.com.au (arksoftgeko.com.au@dialup09.geko.com.au [203.2.239.246]) by zonk.geko.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA02098; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:32:25 +1000 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:32:25 +1000 Message-Id: <199509091932.FAA02098@zonk.geko.com.au> X-Sender: arksoft@203.2.239.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Andrew Khoo - ArkSoft Systems Subject: Re: FreeBSD setup problem Cc: Julian Elischer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 15:05 08/09/95 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: >> the problem is this: when i insert the FreeBSD 2.0 boot floppy, everything >> goes according to plan until it attempts to mount the floppy device as the >> root filesystem. it then panics and reboots. after the reboot, my bios >> tells me that the floppy drive is not correct. i then enter my CMOS setup, >> and save & exit (my floppy is, indeed, still correct in the setup). hmmm... >> both MS-DOS and Linux (ugh, which is worse?) load and operate without error. > >do try a newer disk.. I just did a 2.0.5R install last week using FTP images from archie.au. The boot.flp in UPGRADES presented the same problem above. Using the old boot.flp image from /floppies allowed me to properly complete the install. >+----------------------------------+ ______ _ __ >| __--_|\ Julian Elischer | \ U \/ / On assignment >| / \ julian@ref.tfs.com +------>x USA \ in a very strange >| ( OZ ) 300 lakeside Dr. oakland CA. \___ ___ | country ! >+- X_.---._/ USA+(510) 645-3137(wk) \_/ \\ > v My sympathies :)...i also suffer the same fate every few months :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Khoo | ArkSoft Systems | Email arksoft@geko.com.au 34 Portman Street | Phone +61-2-310-3315 Zetland NSW 2017 | Fax +61-2-310-3362 AUSTRALIA | GSM +61-41-486-1234 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 12:38:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA25386 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:38:24 -0700 Received: from icus.com (icus.com [198.252.182.104]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA25367 ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:38:21 -0700 Received: (from lenny@localhost) by icus.com (8.6.9/8.6.9-noident) id OAA10785; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:38:19 -0500 From: Lenny Tropiano Message-Id: <199509091938.OAA10785@icus.com> Subject: restore on FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 core dumps and ends prematurely To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:38:18 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1514 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I had the unfortunate disaster of two hard disk failures after a bad weather storm here in Austin, TX. (Don't buy Quantum Empire 1080s disks!!) Anyway, I'm going to get them repaired (under warranty) -- suggestions for other hard disks would be good! (Fast SCSI-2, around 1GB in size?) Anyways -- I had to restore my filesystems from my DDS-2 4mm DAT (Sony) drive. I've been using dump to back them up: eg. /sbin/dump 0undf 61000 /dev/nrst0 / [...] I went to restore and some of the filesystems restored just fine. Would complete all the way and then say "set owner/mode for '.' [y/n]?" and finish just fine. Some would go and restore lots of files and then say: Specify next volume #: Even though it all was "dump'd" to one tape and succeeded just fine. Of course entering anything here would just not work... if I entered the same volume number (1) it would SIGSEGV. I found out the hard way that it didn't restore everything, and of course left the filemodes of the directories wrong. I could then restore interactively (restore ivsf /dev/rst0) and then say "add " and extract.. It would then find that file, extract it and exit normally. Suggestions? I want to move to 2.0.5 (or 2.1) is restore compatible with the dumps from 1.1.5.1???? -- | Lenny Tropiano ICUS Software Systems lenny@icus.com | | 2301 Spring Wagon Lane, Austin, TX 78728 | +-------------------- URL: http://www.icus.com/~lenny/ --------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 12:40:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA25506 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:40:42 -0700 Received: from mpp.minn.net (mpp.Minn.Net [204.157.201.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA25500 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:40:39 -0700 Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.minn.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA11714 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:41:35 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199509091941.OAA11714@mpp.minn.net> Subject: odd behavior of find To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:41:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1476 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In my /etc/weekly script, I issue the following command to find any core files that may be laying around: echo "" echo "Checking for core files" find / -fstype local -name core -o -name "*.core" -ls After doing some work on the fdesc file system, I left a fdesc file system mounted at /fd. There is a comment in the fdesc code that says it doesn't set the MNT_LOCAL flag for the file system to work around a bug in fts() (which find uses). Fine. Except that "find" is still descending into the file system and getting an error - "find: 6: Bad file descriptor". If I unmount /fd, the problem goes away. Mount correctly shows that fdesc is not a "local" file system, /dev/sd1a on / (local) /dev/sd1f on /usr (local, with quotas) /dev/sd2a on /usr/var (local, with quotas) procfs on /proc (local) kernfs on /kern (local) fdesc on /fd I tried looking at find, but got a headache trying to figure out exactly how the -fstype option works. Removing the "-fstype local" also makes the error disappear. Does anyone have any ideas why the "-fstype local" option is behaving this way? Here is the output from /etc/weekly: > Checking for core files > find: 6: Bad file descriptor > 55928 416 -rw------- 1 root mpp 200704 Sep 6 10:53 /usr/home/mpp/src/fsdb/fsdb.core > 8222 544 -rw------- 1 root wheel 266240 Sep 2 12:05 /var/cron/cron.core -- Mike Pritchard mpp@mpp.minn.net "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 13:26:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA27926 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:26:37 -0700 Received: from tulsix.utulsa.edu (tulsix.utulsa.edu [129.244.22.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA27917 ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:26:34 -0700 Received: by tulsix.utulsa.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13576; Sat, 9 Sep 95 15:19:17 -0500 From: Tom Jackson Message-Id: <9509092019.AA13576@tulsix.utulsa.edu> Subject: Diamond Stealth SE?? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 15:19:16 -0600 (CDT) Cc: jkh@freebsd.org, tjackson@tulsix.utulsa.edu (Tom Jackson) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 769 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have, to me, a very pressing question I surely hope someone there can answer for me. I'm running 2.0.5 and loving it! Upgrade time and yesterday I hastily agreed to a Diamond Stealth SE (SE = special edition?) PCI card. Its a S3 trio 732 chipset. Although past FAQs have warned against Diamond and the XFree86 docs don't mention this card, the README.S3 says it supports this chipset. The FAQ from comp.windows.x.i386unix says that Diamond is now supporting the XFree86 project. I know this is not a function of the os but I'm in a bind. The install for motherboard and video card is next week and I sure would ... I have a few other *relavant* questions and comments about this WC cdrom that I will be sending shortly, but for know, this is eating my lunch! Tom From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 13:52:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA29472 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:52:29 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA29463 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:52:25 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA13496; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:45:01 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509092045.NAA13496@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Directory sizes To: lashley@netcom.com Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:45:01 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9509091811.AA04049@asimov.volant.org> from "patl@asimov.volant.org" at Sep 9, 95 11:11:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2135 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > If I have a large number of files, and I want efficient access, > are there any good rules-of-thumb for adjusting depth-vs-breadth > in the filesystem? In other words, (approximately) how many entries > can a directory hold before it is more efficient to go deeper and > add another directory lookup? Assume that files being created or > accessed will be randomly placed in the hierarchy. There are no "good rules of thumb" other than "don't put everything in one directory". The tradeoff is between path component traversal and directory block traversal. The first requires a traversal of the base directory for the component, meaning faulting an average of 1/2 the directory blocks in a directory, then faulting an inode for the next directory. The second is faulting half the blocks in the base directory, only the base directory is now larger. If the directory would be larger by exp2(log2(n+1)-1)+1 entries, then it would be less expensive to have a subdirectory. 'n' is the number of entries in a single directory block, divided by 4: a directory block is 512 bytes (for now) and an inode is 128 bytes (for now). For the purposes of lookup, faulting a directory block and faulting an inode are equivalent: each are as likely to be in cache based on locality if the create was done all at once. If your average file name length is (16 + n) * 4 = 512, or 112 characters, it's exactly equal. If you don't have a linear distribution of inodes in the path heirarchy, well, it's the same odds as you picking a number between 1 and 10, your friend picking a number between 1 and 10, and if your number is less than your friends number, then make a subdirectory. Assuming you are looking files up relative to the current directory, and not by absolute path. 8-). This is a silly thing to try to optimize. The expense will be in faulting blocks to/from the file, not the directory. No change in layout will modify your read/write path for files, which is the important speed limit. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 13:55:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA29632 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:55:05 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA29613 ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:55:00 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA13505; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:48:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509092048.NAA13505@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth SE?? To: tjackson@tulsix.utulsa.edu (Tom Jackson) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:48:40 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org, tjackson@tulsix.utulsa.edu In-Reply-To: <9509092019.AA13576@tulsix.utulsa.edu> from "Tom Jackson" at Sep 9, 95 03:19:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1294 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Upgrade time and yesterday I hastily agreed to a Diamond Stealth SE > (SE = special edition?) PCI card. Its a S3 trio 732 chipset. Although > past FAQs have warned against Diamond and the XFree86 docs don't mention > this card, the README.S3 says it supports this chipset. The FAQ from > comp.windows.x.i386unix says that Diamond is now supporting the XFree86 > project. > > I know this is not a function of the os but I'm in a bind. The install > for motherboard and video card is next week and I sure would ... > > I have a few other *relavant* questions and comments about this WC cdrom > that I will be sending shortly, but for know, this is eating my lunch! The Diamond WWW site has the patches for making their cards work. The chipset that you are interested being supported is not the graphics accelerator. All Diamond products use commonly available and thus supported chipsets. The problem is in the dot clocks for the scan; *that's* the chipset you should be checking for. And no, I don't have any idea if you will have to download code from Diamond's WWW site and rebuild XFree86 from sources or not to make that particular card work. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 14:18:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA01047 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:18:36 -0700 Received: from oasis.txdirect.net (oasis.txdirect.net [204.57.120.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA01039 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:18:33 -0700 Received: (from rsnow@localhost) by oasis.txdirect.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA12643; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 16:18:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 16:18:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@oasis To: Randy Berndt cc: Brian Litzinger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: watchdog board? In-Reply-To: <199509081622.LAA21572@vellocet.insync.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Randy Berndt wrote: > At 01:22 AM 9/8/95 -0700, Brian Litzinger wrote: > >Is there a cheap card out there that will push the reset button for > >me if my machine hangs up? > > > > Don't have the details in front of me, but Galacticomm (the BBS people) have > a magazine with this board advertised. It was expensive for what it did > (About $200 as I recall, a friend bought one for his bbs). The "keep-awake" > program was dos-tsr based, so you would need to write something for it. > Basically, it sent a timer reset signal to the board, and if the timer ever > expired, it hit the switch. Unfortunately, the design substituted for the > reset switch, rather than hooking up parallel. (You could rewire it easily > enough, though.) > > Check boardwatch magazine for Galacticomm. > > Randy Berndt > ---------------------------------- > AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: > I'm caught in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. > I believe that I remember a message here in hackers? hardware? early this year about a watchdog board. (Really streching..... I believe it came with either source? or a FreeBSD binary? ) Hold on, (firing up netscape) Ahh, here it is: /******* NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR BSD UN*X ********/ Now available for BSD/OS and FreeBSD, the ET/WDT watchdog timer card. The ET/WDT watchdog timer can detect system failures and physically reboot your PC in seconds in an unattended environment, or can be used to physically reset your PC from a remote location, eliminating reboot hangs. The ET/WDT is an ISA card with a hardware timer that wires directly into the reset switch on the pc and can reset the PC just as if you pressed the reset button. The watchdog timer can detect system hangs in seconds instead of hours. A simple utility is provided which sets the watchdog timer to reboot the PC after X seconds (were X is 0 to 2500) if not notified before the timer expires. A driver supplied with the board uses an on-board interrupt which notifies the watchdog timer once per second that the system is alive. If you have source code to the operating system ( or other Emerging Technologies communications boards) you can enhance the function or disable the on-board interrupt and use other supplied mechanisms to notify the watchdog that the system is running properly. (i.e. IP traffic, Ethernet interface interrupts, etc). Additionally, running the utility with a timeout value of 0 physically boots the PC on demand. Availability: Immediate. Pricing. ET/WDT Stand-alone watchdog Timer Board . Quantity 1 - $195. 2+ 169. 5+ $149. ET/5021 RS-232 56k-64k Com Board with on-board watchdog Timer Quantity 1 - $495. ET/5021 V.35 56k-T1 Com Board with on-board watchdog Timer Quantity 1 - $595. Emerging Technologies, Inc. (516) 271-4525 E-Mail: dennis@et..htp.com ______________________________________________________________________ Rob Snow Powered by FreeBSD rsnow@txdirect.net http://www.freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 14:23:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA01398 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:23:19 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA01392 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:23:17 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA24826; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:23:10 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id RAA02514; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:23:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:23:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Neil Harmon cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Upgrade question In-Reply-To: <199509091816.OAA14278@hti.harmon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Neil Harmon wrote: > I'm very happlily using FreeBSD 2.0 and am now planning on upgrading to 2.0.5. > > I have the Walnut Vreek CDs so access to the code is no issue. > > I'm trying to figure out the best way to upgrade my system while keeping my > configuration. My system is my Internet gateway so I want to avoid having > to re-install ppp scripts, inittab stuff, etc. > > I've heard that there was a discussion about upgrade on usenet but my feed > apparently expired it before I got to them. Unfortunately, because changes were made to the partitioning of the disk, there isn't and never has been any upgrade path like what you want, from 2.0. Your only option _really is_ backup your key files and reinstall. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 17:37:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA07913 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:37:42 -0700 Received: from mramirez.sy.yale.edu (mramirez.sy.yale.edu [130.132.57.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA07901 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:37:38 -0700 Received: (from mrami@localhost) by mramirez.sy.yale.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA08709; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 20:37:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 20:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Ramirez Reply-To: mrami@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: VM86 code Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone incorporated the VM86 code into -current yet? I took an involuntary hiatus from the net for about a month. If no one has integrated the stuff yet, I'm going to give it a whirl tomorrow. (no promises; this is my first kernel hack) Marc. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 18:23:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA08526 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:23:57 -0700 Received: from scratchy.itsnet.com (scratchy.itsnet.com [204.118.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08520 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:23:55 -0700 Received: from mail.itsnet.com by scratchy.itsnet.com; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:40:35 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:40:35 -0600 Message-Id: <199509100140.TAA24128@scratchy.itsnet.com> X-Sender: blair@mail.itsnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Subject: BIND DNS Server Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Does anybody have a conf/portability.h file for BIND 4.9.2 that works with FreeBSD? If so could you e-mail it to me? I can not get the "make all" command to work, it gives me errors like: /usr/include/unistd.h:53: parse error before `__dead2' /usr/include/unistd.h:53: warning: data definition has no type of storage class Any suggestions? Blair ---------------------------------------------- Blair Schmittel Cyber-Naut, L.C Systems Administrator, Operations Manager blair@itsnet.com When in doubt, blame the phone company From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 18:24:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA08585 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:24:52 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08517 ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:23:25 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id DAA09914; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 03:21:57 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id DAA16315; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 03:21:48 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA16677; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 00:18:04 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199509092218.AAA16677@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: restore on FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 core dumps and ends prematurely To: lenny@icus.com (Lenny Tropiano) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 00:18:03 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199509091938.OAA10785@icus.com> from "Lenny Tropiano" at Sep 9, 95 02:38:18 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 498 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Lenny Tropiano wrote: > > Some would go and restore lots of files and then say: > > Specify next volume #: > > Even though it all was "dump'd" to one tape and succeeded just fine. > > Of course entering anything here would just not work... if I entered > the same volume number (1) it would SIGSEGV. Can you try running this through a debugger? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 19:02:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA09524 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:02:48 -0700 Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA09518 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:02:45 -0700 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA09341; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 20:02:14 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 20:02:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Handy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Logitech Busmouse...hates...me... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk 'Lo, My mouse still hates me, but I know much more since my last missive here. I've indeed verified I have a Logitech Busmouse, and it's at IRQ 5 and it's not having conflicts with anything else. I can see my floppy drives and the mouse on startup; the probes are all happy. The pointer section from my XF86Config file: Section "Pointer" Protocol "Busmouse" Device "/dev/mse0" EndSection X starts up now, which is cool...but the mouse doesn't move. When I move the mouse, I can see the pointer on the screen, shaking, wanting to move, but...not. I've tried a whole host of variations here to get the thing to work, but what invariably happens is the mouse shoots off to the edge of the screen somewhere and jams. I've waded through the e-mail and news archives...boy, there are a lot of people who are also hated by their mice! I've been doing this so long I'm falling into a deep fog, so if anyone has any ideas I would be eternally grateful. Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 21:05:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA14326 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 21:05:13 -0700 Received: from prosun.first.gmd.de (prosun.first.gmd.de [192.35.150.136]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA14320 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 21:05:10 -0700 Received: from freebsd.first.gmd.de by prosun.first.gmd.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02825; Sun, 10 Sep 95 06:05:02 +0200 Received: by freebsd.first.gmd.de (GAA01099); Sun, 10 Sep 1995 06:04:32 +0200 From: Gerd Truschinski Message-Id: <199509100404.GAA01099@freebsd.first.gmd.de> Subject: Re: Help! Which files to download ? To: jimmy@chn.ak.planet.gen.nz Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 06:04:32 +0159 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <213bujr5f@chn.ak.planet.gen.nz> from "Jimmy Chen" at Sep 9, 95 08:59:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1045 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello : > I am a newbie of unix who is interested in installing FreeBSD on my system, > however, after browsing through .../FreeBSD/2.0.5-RELEASE/ on one of the mirror > sites, and read some of the introductory documentations, I still don't quite > know which file I should download for the installation (from dos partition). I > know that I would need .../floppies/*.* . > Do I need files from any other directories ? you also need rawrite.exe to write the floppy image to the floppy and the .../bin/bin*.* files in a directory "c:\freebsd". That is enough to start a installation. I have done it last week. Then I got the last sources and compiled a new system. (About 12 hours on a 66MHZ 80486). With only one showstopper ( the missing eign file which one could copy by hand) I have select the 'minimal installation set'. /gT/ -- Gerd Truschinski | Yes, this is the sort of scenario I gt@freebsd.first.gmd.de | think up to amuse myself in the evenings. emma@cs.tu-berlin.de | -- with confirmation from Larisa From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 22:50:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA18869 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 22:50:31 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA18860 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 22:50:29 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id AAA06868; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 00:41:21 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA00322; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 01:50:02 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 01:50:01 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: HP-UX SLIP server (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I posted this message on a HP-UX news group some time ago but I hav'nt had any responses, thought I would try myself out amoung FreeBSD'ers. We are trying to get 2 unix boxes networked together using slip. SERVER Client ========== ========= | HP-817 | | PC | | HP-UX9.0 |<------------->| FreeBSD | | ppl-SLIP | |slattach | ========== ========= Everything is working perfectly on the Client side (thanks to some previous help), but we are having problems pinging the client from the server side. The link has to be bi-directional and it is not. My questions are on the HP side: Is there something that has to be set up in-order to do this? Do we have to set up the interface using ifconfig? If I do a netstat -i on the HP side, there is no link to the client ni0 is used for loopback and ni1 down. btw:( ni0/1 ~ sl0/1) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 23:03:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA19388 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 23:03:07 -0700 Received: from prosun.first.gmd.de (prosun.first.gmd.de [192.35.150.136]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA19379 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 23:03:05 -0700 Received: from freebsd.first.gmd.de by prosun.first.gmd.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02841; Sun, 10 Sep 95 06:44:50 +0200 Received: by freebsd.first.gmd.de (GAA01234); Sun, 10 Sep 1995 06:44:17 +0200 From: Gerd Truschinski Message-Id: <199509100444.GAA01234@freebsd.first.gmd.de> Subject: Where are the mailinglist archives To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 06:44:17 +0159 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 277 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, could someone tell me where I find the mailing list archives? /gT/ -- Gerd Truschinski | Yes, this is the sort of scenario I gt@freebsd.first.gmd.de | think up to amuse myself in the evenings. emma@cs.tu-berlin.de | -- with confirmation from Larisa From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 9 23:14:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA19893 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 23:14:05 -0700 Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA19868 ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 23:14:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 23:14:02 -0700 From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199509100614.XAA19868@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lenny@icus.com Subject: Re: restore on FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 core dumps and ends prematurely Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I had the unfortunate disaster of two hard disk failures I also had a disk failure of my FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 drive somewhat recently. >Anyways -- I had to restore my filesystems from my DDS-2 4mm DAT (Sony) >drive. Some would go and restore lots of files and then say: >Specify next volume #: >Even though it all was "dump'd" to one tape and succeeded just fine. >Of course entering anything here would just not work... if I entered >the same volume number (1) it would SIGSEGV. >I found out the hard way that it didn't restore everything, and of course >left the filemodes of the directories wrong. I also see this. At first I thought it was because I was trying to restore a FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 dump tape under FreeBSD-current as of August, but even after re-installing FreeBSD 1.1.5.1, the restore still fails in this same manner. So I've concluded that the tape itself was corrupt. However, if you also see this same behavior, it may be a software bug after all and my tape may still hold valid data. Another data point is that an old FreeBSD 1.1 dump tape restores fine under both FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 and FreeBSD-current. >I could then restore >interactively (restore ivsf /dev/rst0) and then say "add " >and extract.. It would then find that file, extract it and exit normally. This fails for me. I get a resync error message and the restore process appears to hang w/ the tape drive light always on. Jeffrey