From owner-cvs-gnu Sun Aug 4 17:42:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05565 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pst@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05545; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Traina Message-Id: <199608050042.RAA05545@freefall.freebsd.org> To: CVS-committers, cvs-all, cvs-gnu Subject: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ChangeLog DESC Dvi.c Dvi.h DviChar.c DviChar.h DviP.h FontMap GXditview.ad INSTALL Imakefile Makefile Menu.h README TODO XFontName.c XFontName.h device.c device.h draw.c font.c gxditview.man lex.c page.c parse.c xdit.bm xdit_mask.bm xditview.c xtotroff.c Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk pst 96/08/04 17:42:07 Added: gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ChangeLog DESC Dvi.c Dvi.h DviChar.c DviChar.h DviP.h FontMap GXditview.ad INSTALL Imakefile Makefile Menu.h README TODO XFontName.c XFontName.h device.c device.h draw.c font.c gxditview.man lex.c page.c parse.c xdit.bm xdit_mask.bm xditview.c xtotroff.c Log: Bring xditview back from the grave (1 of 2 commits). From owner-cvs-gnu Sun Aug 4 17:45:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05759 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pst@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05737; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Traina Message-Id: <199608050045.RAA05737@freefall.freebsd.org> To: CVS-committers, cvs-all, cvs-gnu Subject: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk pst 96/08/04 17:45:00 Modified: gnu/usr.bin/groff Makefile gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview Makefile Log: Bring xditview back from the grave (part 2). Fix things so it *really* won't compile if the environment isn't there. This commit has been sitting in my to-do list for 2 months. Xditview should never have been half-removed, so now it's back with a vengance because we want to keep groff intact as a package. Revision Changes Path 1.7 +1 -1 src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/Makefile 1.10 +2 -0 src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview/Makefile From owner-cvs-gnu Sun Aug 4 20:37:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA14724 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 20:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14705; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 20:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA05448; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 20:36:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Paul Traina cc: CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ChangeLog DESC Dvi.c Dvi.h DviChar.c DviChar.h DviP.h FontMap GXditview.ad INSTALL Imakefile Makefile Menu.h README TODO XFontName.c XFontName.h device.c device.h draw.c font.c gxditview.man lex.c page.c parse.c xdit.bm xdit_mask.bm xditview.c xtotroff.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Aug 1996 17:42:07 PDT." <199608050042.RAA05545@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 20:36:09 -0700 Message-ID: <5446.839216169@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This should have either been pulled into a port in print or, at the least, groff updated at the same time to make it a somewhat more worthwhile trade. I don't see this as an evolutionary step at all, and now you've simply moved us back to having X11-dependent code in the tree. Yuck. I'm not happy. Jordan > pst 96/08/04 17:42:07 > > Added: gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ChangeLog DESC Dvi.c Dvi.h > DviChar.c DviChar.h DviP.h FontMap GXditview.ad > INSTALL Imakefile Makefile Menu.h README TODO > XFontName.c XFontName.h device.c device.h draw.c > font.c gxditview.man lex.c page.c parse.c xdit.bm > xdit_mask.bm xditview.c xtotroff.c > Log: > Bring xditview back from the grave (1 of 2 commits). From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 00:07:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA26155 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26149; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03376; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:39:00 +0200 (MET DST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Paul Traina , CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Aug 1996 20:36:09 PDT." <5446.839216169@time.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 08:39:00 +0200 Message-ID: <3374.839227140@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I agree 100% with Jordan. This was a significant step backwards. There has always been agreement that X11 code doesn't belong in our tree. Please revert this change. Poul-Henning >[Jordan] >This should have either been pulled into a port in print or, at the >least, groff updated at the same time to make it a somewhat more >worthwhile trade. I don't see this as an evolutionary step at all, >and now you've simply moved us back to having X11-dependent code in >the tree. Yuck. I'm not happy. > > Jordan >>[Paul] >> Log: >> Bring xditview back from the grave (1 of 2 commits). > -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 00:24:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA26958 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA26951; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00682; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:24:27 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199608050724.AAA00682@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, pst@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3374.839227140@critter.tfs.com> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Aug 5, 96 08:39:00 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I agree 100% with Jordan. Hummm... Jordan doesn't seem to be self consistent, after all he is the one who added: ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 dot.fvwmrc \ ${DESTDIR}/root/.fvwmrc; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 dot.Xdefaults \ ${DESTDIR}/root/.Xdefaults; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 755 dot.xsession \ ${DESTDIR}/root/.xsession; \ to /usr/src/etc/Makefile... > This was a significant step backwards. > There has always been agreement that X11 code doesn't belong in > our tree. There has also always been agreement that we shouldn't dike out portions of code that we import into /usr/src. It seems these conditions are, and have been, in conflict for years :-( > Please revert this change. Please don't, it's obviously not as black and white as it appears :-(. > Poul-Henning > > >[Jordan] > >This should have either been pulled into a port in print or, at the > >least, groff updated at the same time to make it a somewhat more > >worthwhile trade. I don't see this as an evolutionary step at all, > >and now you've simply moved us back to having X11-dependent code in > >the tree. Yuck. I'm not happy. > > > > Jordan > >>[Paul] > >> Log: > >> Bring xditview back from the grave (1 of 2 commits). > > > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. > http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. > whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. > Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 00:48:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA29111 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA29105; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03580; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:48:20 +0200 (MET DST) To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, pst@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Aug 1996 00:24:27 PDT." <199608050724.AAA00682@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 09:48:19 +0200 Message-ID: <3578.839231299@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I complained about that too... In message <199608050724.AAA00682@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>, "Rodney W. Grimes" write s: >> I agree 100% with Jordan. > >Hummm... Jordan doesn't seem to be self consistent, after all he >is the one who added: > > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 dot.fvwmrc \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.fvwmrc; \ > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 dot.Xdefaults \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.Xdefaults; \ > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 755 dot.xsession \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.xsession; \ > >to /usr/src/etc/Makefile... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 05:30:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA15063 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 05:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15056; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA08677; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 05:28:59 -0700 (PDT) To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), pst@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Aug 1996 00:24:27 PDT." <199608050724.AAA00682@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 05:28:58 -0700 Message-ID: <8675.839248138@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I agree 100% with Jordan. > > Hummm... Jordan doesn't seem to be self consistent, after all he > is the one who added: > > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 dot.fvwmrc \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.fvwmrc; \ > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 dot.Xdefaults \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.Xdefaults; \ > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 755 dot.xsession \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.xsession; \ > > to /usr/src/etc/Makefile... I think we're arguing apples and doorknobs here. A scattering of reasonable dotfiles for the purpose of making a new user's environment a little nicer and, at worst, ignored if unused is not the same as code which is essentially uncompilable in our tree without the addition of another major component which we do not provide by default. Jordan From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 06:36:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA17901 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 06:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk (root@skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA17895; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 06:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA15328; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:36:28 +0100 Received: from tees.elsevier.co.uk (actually host tees) by snowdon with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:36:07 +0100 Received: (from dpr@localhost) by tees.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) id OAA05088; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:35:23 +0100 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), pst@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... References: <8675.839248138@time.cdrom.com> From: Paul Richards Date: 05 Aug 1996 14:35:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of Mon, 05 Aug 1996 05:28:58 -0700 Message-ID: <57zq4adkdh.fsf@elsevier.co.uk> Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.30 Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > I think we're arguing apples and doorknobs here. A scattering of > reasonable dotfiles for the purpose of making a new user's environment > a little nicer and, at worst, ignored if unused is not the same as > code which is essentially uncompilable in our tree without the > addition of another major component which we do not provide by > default. I don't specifically see a problem with X code being in the tree as long as it doesn't *require* X being installed to build. Haven't seen the code yet but Paul's commit suggested that the code simply did nothing if X wasn't installed. As for dot files, why can't they be installed by the package that uses them rather than be in the main sources? We could add some sample dot files to the package and maintain them in the ports area. -- Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd. (Netcraft Ltd. contractor) Elsevier Science TIS online journal project. Email: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 (0)1865 843155 From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 08:50:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA26356 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-71.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26332; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01567; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608051550.IAA01567@precipice.shockwave.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ChangeLog DESC Dvi.c Dvi.h DviChar.c DviChar.h DviP.h FontMap GXditview.ad INSTALL Imakefile Makefile Menu.h README TODO XFontName.c XFontName.h device.c device.h draw.c font.c gxditview.man lex.c page.c parse.c xdit.bm xdit_mask.bm xditview.c xtotroff.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Aug 1996 20:36:09 PDT." <5446.839216169@time.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 08:50:10 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We discussed this two months ago. Xditview is part of groff, groff is part of our sources. Groff is up to date (from the last time I checked which was a couple of months ago), so what's the problem? Yes, I'd like to make groff IN TOTAL a port, but people will bitch and whine, so we're stuck with it in the main distribution, in its entirety, until we go to 4.4bsd preformatted manual pages. Paul From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ChangeLog DESC Dvi.c >>Dvi.h DviChar.c DviChar.h DviP.h FontMap GXditview.ad INSTALL Imakefile Makef >>ile Menu.h README TODO XFontName.c XFontName.h device.c device.h draw.c font. >>c gxditview.man lex.c page.c parse.c xdit.bm xdit_mask.bm xditview.c xtotroff >>.c This should have either been pulled into a port in print or, at the least, groff updated at the same time to make it a somewhat more worthwhile trade. I don't see this as an evolutionary step at all, and now you've simply moved us back to having X11-dependent code in the tree. Yuck. I'm not happy. Jordan > pst 96/08/04 17:42:07 > > Added: gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ChangeLog DESC Dvi.c Dvi.h > DviChar.c DviChar.h DviP.h FontMap GXditview.ad > INSTALL Imakefile Makefile Menu.h README TODO > XFontName.c XFontName.h device.c device.h draw.c > font.c gxditview.man lex.c page.c parse.c xdit.bm > xdit_mask.bm xditview.c xtotroff.c > Log: > Bring xditview back from the grave (1 of 2 commits). From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 08:51:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA26454 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-71.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26438; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01601; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608051551.IAA01601@precipice.shockwave.com> To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Aug 1996 08:39:00 +0200." <3374.839227140@critter.tfs.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 08:51:19 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Negatory. There has been a desire to keep the tree X11 clean. But there's also a desire to keep packages intact. Jordan killed off useful functionality when he removed xditview. I don't see what the problem is. If you don't set the variable, it won't build. Paul From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... I agree 100% with Jordan. This was a significant step backwards. There has always been agreement that X11 code doesn't belong in our tree. Please revert this change. Poul-Henning >[Jordan] >This should have either been pulled into a port in print or, at the >least, groff updated at the same time to make it a somewhat more >worthwhile trade. I don't see this as an evolutionary step at all, >and now you've simply moved us back to having X11-dependent code in >the tree. Yuck. I'm not happy. > > Jordan >>[Paul] >> Log: >> Bring xditview back from the grave (1 of 2 commits). > -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, In >>c. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 08:54:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA26562 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-71.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26544; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01704; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608051553.IAA01704@precipice.shockwave.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Aug 1996 05:28:58 PDT." <8675.839248138@time.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 08:53:34 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oh reall, makes the user's environment nicer? Jordan, have you actually tried to login as root with your .fvwmrc files? Doesn't work, the first thing you have to do is delete them. We're arguing at cross purposes. We should not destroy functionality in 3rd party packages, which is what you did. Paul From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... > > I agree 100% with Jordan. > > Hummm... Jordan doesn't seem to be self consistent, after all he > is the one who added: > > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 dot.fvwmrc \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.fvwmrc; \ > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 dot.Xdefault >>s \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.Xdefaults; \ > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 755 dot.xsession >> \ > ${DESTDIR}/root/.xsession; \ > > to /usr/src/etc/Makefile... I think we're arguing apples and doorknobs here. A scattering of reasonable dotfiles for the purpose of making a new user's environment a little nicer and, at worst, ignored if unused is not the same as code which is essentially uncompilable in our tree without the addition of another major component which we do not provide by default. Jordan From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 13:01:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15338 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15322; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA16003; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:00:17 -0700 (PDT) To: Paul Traina cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Aug 1996 08:53:34 PDT." <199608051553.IAA01704@precipice.shockwave.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 13:00:17 -0700 Message-ID: <16001.839275217@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Oh reall, makes the user's environment nicer? Jordan, have you actually > tried to login as root with your .fvwmrc files? Doesn't work, the first > thing you have to do is delete them. Oh? Gee, thanks for reporting this in a timely fashion.. ;-) I'd have deleted or fixed them if I'd known earlier. Jordan From owner-cvs-gnu Mon Aug 5 13:52:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA19161 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19147; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00700; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 22:51:48 +0200 (MET DST) To: Paul Traina cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ChangeLog DESC Dvi.c Dvi.h DviChar.c DviChar.h DviP.h FontMap GXditview.ad INSTALL Imakefile Makefile Menu.h README TODO XFontName.c XFontName.h device.c device.h draw.c font.c gxditview.man lex.c page.c parse.c xdit.bm xdit_mask.bm xditview.c xtotroff.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Aug 1996 08:50:10 PDT." <199608051550.IAA01567@precipice.shockwave.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 22:51:47 +0200 Message-ID: <698.839278307@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199608051550.IAA01567@precipice.shockwave.com>, Paul Traina writes: >We discussed this two months ago. Xditview is part of groff, groff is part of >our sources. Groff is up to date (from the last time I checked which was a >couple of months ago), so what's the problem? > >Yes, I'd like to make groff IN TOTAL a port, but people will bitch and whine, >so we're stuck with it in the main distribution, in its entirety, until we go >to 4.4bsd preformatted manual pages. Or even better: SGML/HTML and then import lynx... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-cvs-gnu Wed Aug 7 13:09:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04311 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 13:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04301; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 13:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id VAA18425; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:30:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA01971; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:18:25 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:18:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Poul-Henning Kamp , pst@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/xditview ... In-Reply-To: <8675.839248138@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I think we're arguing apples and doorknobs here. A scattering of > reasonable dotfiles for the purpose of making a new user's environment > a little nicer and, at worst, ignored if unused is not the same as > code which is essentially uncompilable in our tree without the > addition of another major component which we do not provide by > default. That sound's reasonable. But one might argue, that a good login environment could also be done by the configure scripts in the ports collection. Another thing is, that fvwm is certainly a nice, but not the only window manager, that's available for free. So what, if th user decides to use afterstep, then the .fvwmrc file is useless. Although I agree with you in most points, Jordan, I think, that this should move into ports. And I think xditview should stay, since FreeBSD uses groff. We shouldn't split the package or make a port of the complete groff package. But I'd vote for keeping groff in the source tree, but then complete. -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-cvs-gnu Wed Aug 7 18:53:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA24128 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA24091; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:52:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199608080152.SAA24091@freefall.freebsd.org> To: CVS-committers, cvs-all, cvs-gnu Subject: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/mkisofs COPYING ChangeLog Configure Makefile Makefile.in README TODO config.h defaults.h exclude.c exclude.h hash.c iso9660.h make.com mkisofs.8 mkisofs.c mkisofs.h rock.c tree.c vms.c vms.h write.c src/gnu/usr.bin/mkisofs/diag Makefile README dump.c isodump.c isoinfo.c isovfy.c Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk jkh 96/08/07 18:52:53 Removed: gnu/usr.bin/mkisofs COPYING ChangeLog Configure Makefile Makefile.in README TODO config.h defaults.h exclude.c exclude.h hash.c iso9660.h make.com mkisofs.8 mkisofs.c mkisofs.h rock.c tree.c vms.c vms.h write.c gnu/usr.bin/mkisofs/diag Makefile README dump.c isodump.c isoinfo.c isovfy.c Log: bye bye mkisofs! From owner-cvs-gnu Wed Aug 7 19:21:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26256 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26228; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199608080221.TAA26228@freefall.freebsd.org> To: CVS-committers, cvs-all, cvs-gnu Subject: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk jkh 96/08/07 19:21:08 Modified: gnu/usr.bin Makefile Log: Remove mkisofs from Makefile Revision Changes Path 1.31 +2 -2 src/gnu/usr.bin/Makefile From owner-cvs-gnu Fri Aug 9 02:00:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-gnu Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA25161 for cvs-gnu-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA25145; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:00:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Satoshi Asami Message-Id: <199608090900.CAA25145@freefall.freebsd.org> To: CVS-committers, cvs-all, cvs-gnu Subject: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs cvs.1 Sender: owner-cvs-gnu@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk asami 96/08/09 02:00:45 Modified: gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs cvs.1 Log: The default editor is "vi", not "/usr/ucb/vi". Revision Changes Path 1.4 +2 -2 src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/cvs.1