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Date:      Sun, 25 Aug 1996 00:12:49 -0700
From:      "Michael L. VanLoon" <michaelv@MindBender.serv.net>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Speedingup the "worldstone" 
Message-ID:  <199608250712.AAA07341@MindBender.serv.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 24 Aug 96 11:48:45 -0600. <199608241748.LAA02804@rover.village.org> 

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>have an old 486 DX2-66 that I'd like to get the most out of when it
>comes to building the world, since it takes just about exactly 9 hours
[scsi drives...]
[32MB...]
>Does anybody have a list of the typical bottle necks in this process?
>I know I can solve this problem by getting a good P6/200 with 64M of
>memory and a good Adaptech Ultra Wide PCI card and a fast wide scsi
>disk.  But I don't have the $7500 (or even $5000) to do that just now

Actually, "there's just no substitute for cubic inches". :-)  Or in
our case, MIPS.

You can only squeeze so much out of 486 technology.

I have an AMD 5x86 133MHz (really a 486 with a 16KB cache), plugged
into an EISA motherboard with a 512KB write-back L2 cache, a BusLogic
BT747s EISA SCSI controller, /usr (including /usr/src) on ccd over two
drives, /usr/obj on a third separate drive from those, swap spread out
over all three, and 24MB of RAM.  It still takes me 6.5-7 hours to do
a complete clean make world on NetBSD.

I just threw NetBSD on my P5 120MHz.  It's an Asus P55TP4N (Triton I),
512K PB cache, 32MB EDO RAM, using either a BusLogic BT956c or an
Adaptec 2940UW (I was benchmarking -- tried both), one Seagate 2GB
Barracuda (no ccd, no distributed swap or obj dirs).  I consistently
got 3:10 to 3:15 with this setup.  Full kernel build, including
make clean, config, and make depend in about 15 minutes (I have a
*lot* of crap in my kernel).

Pentium motherboards are becoming very cheap.  I'll bet you could get
a P100 for "pocket change".  A P133 would be a fairly small
investment.  You should be able to get into one of these with an NCR
PCI SCSI controller for well under $500.  You should also seriously
consider a Cyrix 6x86 if you want to wring the most performance out of
one of these boards for the lowest price.

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  Michael L. VanLoon                           michaelv@MindBender.serv.net
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