From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 10 06:12:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA10685 for doc-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA10672; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA26305; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:12:54 -0800 (PST) To: msmith@freebsd.org cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone care to write a novice's guide to visual userconfig? Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:12:53 -0800 Message-ID: <26303.847635173@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Now that `boot -c' is essentially the default in the upcoming 2.1.6 and 2.2 boot floppies, it occurs to me that we're going to have to document visual userconfig better if we're to have any hope of people actually using it, rather than just whapping return at the first intro screen. Yes, the intro screen does say "if you're installing FreeBSD for the first time, use visual userconfig to set the kernel to match your hardware." but it doesn't say *how* to go about the process in a more cookbook fashion. Ideally, a page or two of text which led the user through a sample session, taking care to impress upon the user just *why* it was important to resolve all the conflicts and delete extraneous device entries, would really help this process along and we could put it very prominently in the README now that it's not an optional step. Any takers? Puhleeeze? Thanks!!! Jordan From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 10 19:26:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08200 for doc-outgoing; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 19:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tein.net ([208.128.130.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08194 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 19:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from noel.tein.net (pc192.avicom.net [208.128.130.192]) by tein.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA15939 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:26:30 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961111032819.0066d338@tein.net> X-Sender: noel@tein.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 20:28:19 -0700 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Noel Emerson Subject: FreeBSD Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently set up an ISP in a rural community in Montana. We are using FreeBSD as our OS. I definetly need all the information on using this OS that I can find. Thanks, Noel From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 11 18:21:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08100 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:21:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from shopkeeper.ccsmall.com (root@[205.245.27.220]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08092 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from John.ccscom.net ([205.245.26.110]) by shopkeeper.ccsmall.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA16246 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:35:54 -0500 Message-ID: <328808A4.5515@centuryinter.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:18:28 -0800 From: "William J. Holscher" Organization: Computing & Communication Service X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: ipv6 X-URL: http://www.freebsd.com/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are you guys developing a ipv6 stack??? If so could you send me any pertinant info on the matter? William J. Holscher III Computing & Communication Services Inc. wholsch@ccsmall.com From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 11 18:49:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09332 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09323 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.22]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.2/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA24527; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24990; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:49:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: maryann.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:49:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@maryann.eng.umd.edu To: "William J. Holscher" cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ipv6 In-Reply-To: <328808A4.5515@centuryinter.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, William J. Holscher wrote: > Are you guys developing a ipv6 stack??? If so could you send me any > pertinant info on the matter? > William J. Holscher III > Computing & Communication Services Inc. > wholsch@ccsmall.com This is the wrong place to post that question. This list is for developers of FreeBSD's documentation, and covers discussions of documentation tactics and tools. There is a list for filesystems, I think it's freebsd-fs, but mail to majordomo@freebsd.org with the one line command "lists" to make certain. I haven't heard of anyone taking on such a task, myself. > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 11 21:39:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23463 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23457 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA24396; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:39:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:39:30 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Noel Emerson cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961111032819.0066d338@tein.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Noel Emerson wrote: > I recently set up an ISP in a rural community in Montana. We are using > FreeBSD as our OS. I definetly need all the information on using this OS > that I can find. Welcome to the jungle :-) The best place to start would be some good books. I recommend the following: The Complete FreeBSD -- Available from Walnut Creek CDROM. Next to the Handbook this is the definitive reference. The FreeBSD Handbook -- http://www.freeebsd.org under Documentation; an older revision is in /usr/share/doc/handbook. This _is_ the definitive reference for FreeBSD. UNIX System Administration Handbook, Second Edition Evi Nemeth et al. Prentice Hall ISBN 0-13-151051-7 Lots of good bits on general sysadmining. BSD/OS is close enough to FreeBSD. TCP/IP Network Administration Craig Hunt O'Reilly & Associates ISBN 0-937175-82-X Everything you wanted to know about operating TCP/IP networks. An absolute must for anyone who does anything more with networks than use them. There is an excellent bibliography in the Handbook. Other resources: http://www.freebsd.org -- everything connected to FreeBSD and then some. -> Search -- look at the mailing list archives. First stop for questions. -> Documentation -- tutorials, Handbook, FAQ, etc. Mailing Lists: -> questions@freebsd.org -- general questions. A good first stop for questions. -> doc@freebsd.org (this one) -- documentation issues & submissions. Hope this helps. Have fun and keep your Weed Eater handy :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 11 22:50:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA26783 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26777 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:50:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA01452 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:50:25 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id HAA11672 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:50:00 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.2/keltia-uucp-2.9) id HAA26740; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:48:52 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:48:51 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ipv6 References: <328808A4.5515@centuryinter.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.50.05 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2686 In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Nov 11, 1996 21:49:48 -0500 Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Chuck Robey: > documentation tactics and tools. There is a list for filesystems, I think > it's freebsd-fs, but mail to majordomo@freebsd.org with the one line > command "lists" to make certain. IPv6 is for networking not a FS :-) There are too IPv6 projects, one from Francis Dupont at INRIA[1] and the other from the guys at NRL. I don't have an URL for them but I know of a "mirror" of the FTP stuff at RIPE[2] The NRL stuff is probably a bit more complete (especially in the security part). Both are for FreeBSD 2.1.0 (don't know for later versions). [1] [2] -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #28: Sun Nov 10 13:37:41 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 12 04:45:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA21251 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:45:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA21238 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from thurston.eng.umd.edu (thurston.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.25]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.8.2/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16580; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by thurston.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01672; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:45:07 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: thurston.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:45:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@thurston.eng.umd.edu To: Ollivier Robert cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ipv6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Chuck Robey: > > documentation tactics and tools. There is a list for filesystems, I think > > it's freebsd-fs, but mail to majordomo@freebsd.org with the one line > > command "lists" to make certain. > > IPv6 is for networking not a FS :-) > > There are too IPv6 projects, one from Francis Dupont at INRIA[1] and the > other from the guys at NRL. I don't have an URL for them but I know of a > "mirror" of the FTP stuff at RIPE[2] > > The NRL stuff is probably a bit more complete (especially in the security > part). Both are for FreeBSD 2.1.0 (don't know for later versions). > > [1] > [2] yeah, you're right, but asking this on doc is strange, and I don't think Garrett reads it, and I am a little surprised you did, which is why I directed him away. People are starting to use doc for some odd queries. > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr > FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #28: Sun Nov 10 13:37:41 MET 1996 > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 13 12:22:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12638 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ICSI.Net (root@ns2.ICSI.Net [199.1.96.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12632 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from jsinley.icsi.net (ppp032-victtx.ICSI.Net) by ICSI.Net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09289; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:23:13 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961113202118.00665a70@mailhost.icsi.net> X-Sender: jsinley@mailhost.icsi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:21:18 -0600 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jason R. Sinley" Subject: Root.fpl and boot.fpl Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Your docs call for two disks. 1) a boot.fpl file, and 2) a root.fpl file. I have downloaded the boot.fpl file, but cannot locate the root.fpl file on your server. Is it still needed? Thanks Jason Sinley Jason Sinley -=:>>JS<<:=- From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 13 12:56:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA15562 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15553 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA07671; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:56:23 -0800 (PST) To: "Jason R. Sinley" cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root.fpl and boot.fpl In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:21:18 CST." <1.5.4.32.19961113202118.00665a70@mailhost.icsi.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:56:23 -0800 Message-ID: <7669.847918583@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It's no longer needed - the docs were somewhat in error and have been fixed, sorry. Jordan > Your docs call for two disks. 1) a boot.fpl file, and 2) a root.fpl file. > > I have downloaded the boot.fpl file, but cannot locate the root.fpl file on > your server. Is it still needed? > > Thanks > > Jason Sinley > Jason Sinley > -=:>>JS<<:=- > > From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 13 21:08:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA13780 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.st.rim.or.jp (root@mail.st.rim.or.jp [202.255.181.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13775 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from 127.0.0.1.10.0.0.1 (ppp-tky232.intergate.ad.jp [203.179.164.232]) by mail.st.rim.or.jp (8.7.5/3.4W3-rim1.1) with SMTP id OAA05220; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:08:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <328AA7B8.2ED6@st.rim.or.jp> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:01:44 +0900 From: "Shiro.Kimura" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJCo0aiQkGyhK?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 突然メールを出させていただきました。 Freebsd2.1.5の日本語Handbookの入手の方法が解らず困っております，お教えく ださい。 -- Shiro.Kimura (Tokyo,JAPAN) Email sirou@st.rim.or.jp From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 13 21:24:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14459 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp (root@bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp [133.4.30.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14438 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from bourbon (max@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.8.2/3.4W409/27/96) with ESMTP id OAA16770; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:23:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199611140523.OAA16770@bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: sirou@st.rim.or.jp Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: max@wide.ad.jp Subject: Re: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCo0aiQkGyhC?= From: Masafumi NAKANE/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2Y6LDJtSjgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:01:44 +0900" References: <328AA7B8.2ED6@st.rim.or.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:23:01 +0900 Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You should direct this kind of question to: doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Max > 突然メールを出させていただきました。Freebsd2.1.5の日本語 > Handbookの入手の方法が解らず困っております，お教えください。-- > Shiro.Kimura (Tokyo,JAPAN) Email sirou@st.rim.or.jp From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 13 21:30:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14780 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14773 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4Wbeta5-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id OAA29021 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:30:07 +0900 Received: from domino.astec.co.jp (domino.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.12]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.5Wbeta-astecMX2.4) with SMTP id OAA17711 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:30:06 +0900 (JST) Received: by domino.astec.co.jp (4.1/astec-1.0) id AA29504; Thu, 14 Nov 96 14:30:05 JST Message-Id: <9611140530.AA29504@domino.astec.co.jp> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mail from "Shiro.Kimura" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:01:44 +0900" References: <328AA7B8.2ED6@st.rim.or.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:30:05 +0900 From: Hanai Hiroyuki Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, freebsd-doc people. > From: "Shiro.Kimura" This is Japanese person who wants to get Japanese version of Handbook. I've just send him ``Caution''. Sorry, again. ----- Hiroyuki Hanai hanai@jp.FreeBSD.org / hanai@astec.co.jp