From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 01:12:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19975 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us (root@dialup-73.icon-stl.net [199.217.153.73]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA19969 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kenth@localhost) by gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA06206; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 03:11:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Kent Hamilton Message-Id: <199607210811.DAA06206@gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us> Subject: Re: bizarre network problem To: pius@iago.ienet.com (Pius Fischer) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 03:11:50 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, terryl@ienet.com In-Reply-To: <199607120113.SAA25317@iago.ienet.com> from "Pius Fischer" at Jul 11, 96 06:13:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just FYI I'm seeing the exact same problem on one of my machines at work. The box is a P100 2.1-STABLE, with two Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B cards, on fxp0 and fpx1. > > We've been experiencing a strange network problem with a machine > running FreeBSD 2.1-stable. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Here's out setup: > > ---------------------- > | portia.ienet.com | ---------------------- ------------------- > | Pentium 166 MHz |----|3Com LinkSwitch 1000|--|gate.ienet.com |--> UUNet > | FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE | ---------------------- |Cisco 2500 series| > ---------------------- ------------------- > > So, we've got a Cisco connecting us to the Internet via a T-1. The > Cisco connects to our Ethernet hub (the LinkSwitch) via 10 Mb/s Ethernet > and the LinkSwitch connects to the host portia via 100 Mb/s Ethernet. > > We've also got a few other hosts connected to the LinkSwitch. > > The problem is that every once in a while packets coming from the outside > (coming in through our Cisco) don't make it to portia. This happens usually > whenever there is little network traffic to portia for a period of time. > traceroutes from the outside will get to the Cisco but not to portia. > > We put the Cisco into debugging mode (with 'debug ip packet') and it > appears to correctly forward the packets to portia, but a tcpdump process > running on portia never showed us any of those packets. > > This problem never occurs with packets sent from any of the other hosts > connected to the Ethernet hub. In fact, if I ping or telnet to portia from > one of these local hosts, portia appears to magically wake up and process > all packets correctly. > > And if I'm on portia's console and do an 'arp -a', normally I get a quick > response and see the arp cache. However, if this problem is happening, then > doing an 'arp -a' takes about 3 or 4 seconds before showing me the cache > and, again, portia wakes up and all packets are received and replied to. > > It appears that at the time the problem is happening, the arp cache entry > for the Cisco is incomplete, but that is probably just because it expired > and so shouldn't portia just reissue an arp query? Well, I guess it wouldn't > if it's not receiving anything to prompt the query. > > So the question is, is this a problem with the kernel or with our LinkSwitch > or with something else? What does 'arp -a' do that could cause the kernel to > wake up? It never fails to receive local packets like RIP updates every 30 > seconds and broadcast ARP queries, etc., but those, unlike the ping or telnet > don't cause it to wake up to remote traffic. > > portia uses an Intel EtherExpress PRO/100 LAN Adapter and the fxp0 device > driver. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Pius > -- Kent Hamilton Play: KentH@HNS.St-Louis.MO.US NIC Handle: KH91 URL: http://www.icon-stl.net/~khamilto/ Blessed Be.... Work: KHamilton@Hunter.COM From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 01:20:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA20399 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA20390 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA15995 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:20:26 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA07634 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:20:25 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA05424 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:05:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607210805.KAA05424@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa aha1542.c To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:05:48 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607210426.OAA24600@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Jul 21, 96 02:26:37 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Moved to -hackers, committers is not a discussion list.) As Bruce Evans wrote: > > People who want them to break into the debugger can always set the > > breakpoint explicitly. The existing behaviour was a misfeature from > > Yes, code with Debugger() in it (except code to explicitly trap to the > debugger) shouldn't be committed. ...unless inside #ifdef DEBUG. > > the beginning, in the (wrong) assumption that the SCSI controller must > > always be of essential importance to the entire system. > > It is, if the alterative is to write corrupted data. Nope, you're making the same (wrong) assumption as the author of the driver that any SCSI adapter must necessarily serve things that are of vital interest for the sanity of the system. In my case, the machine booted diskless, and the SCSI adapter was there to play with various SCSI devices, like a CDROM changer. It was perfectly okay to have a hung SCSI bus, and volunteerely reboot the machine in case i could not unwedge it by any other means. My point is that this should not be a matter of opinion of the author of some disk driver, but a decision of the system administrator. Perhaps (ick!) yet another option ``SCSI_PARANOID''. :) Btw., i wonder why the bus jams unrecoverably. The SCSI BIOS seems to be able to recover it fine. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 02:25:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA24354 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA24346 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA01012; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 19:22:04 +1000 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 19:22:04 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607210922.TAA01012@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, j@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa aha1542.c Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >(Moved to -hackers, committers is not a discussion list.) -hackers isn't suitable for discussion of changes -current either. >> > the beginning, in the (wrong) assumption that the SCSI controller must >> > always be of essential importance to the entire system. >> >> It is, if the alterative is to write corrupted data. >Nope, you're making the same (wrong) assumption as the author of the >driver that any SCSI adapter must necessarily serve things that are of >vital interest for the sanity of the system. In my case, the machine No, I'm just assuming that the it is unsafe to continue because the author didn't handle the problem properly. >Btw., i wonder why the bus jams unrecoverably. The SCSI BIOS seems to >be able to recover it fine. Perhaps because the driver blunders on :-). Bruce From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 02:36:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA25256 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-8.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA25234; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA11638; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607210935.CAA11638@precipice.shockwave.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: SIO problems - random "deafness" on my serial lines Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:35:58 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After 3 weeks of flawless operation, I've recently started having problems with *both* the kernel mode and the iij ppp code when I connect with my ISP. I'm trying to make sure that the problem isn't on my side, as I've never seen this problem with Ascends until recently on two -current systems. Basicly, the remote side appears to go deaf under *bursty* traffic loads and the link remains dead until I restart it by hanging up. By dead, I mean that even LCP echos are not being received back, and turning on tons of debugging shows data being fed to the internal modem. I can't debug past there. This could either mean send buffers are wedged/full on my side, or I've got flaky modem/serial 16550 emulation on the modem, or the problem really is with "the other guy." I'm using some relatively cruddy $99 TI modems which are relatively suspicious clones of the US Robotics Sportster 288/344 + PnP. The interesting thing is that it seems to happen most often when I would be seeing the window opening up on a second TCP flow, which makes me insanely suspicious of the 16550 emulation hardware or our driver. Any suggestions as to where to start digging to get into the guts of our driver? Anyone else see anything suspicious like this? Paul From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 08:51:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA12144 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 08:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12132 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 08:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr14.etinc.com (dialup-usr14.etinc.com [204.141.95.130]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA02857; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:56:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:56:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199607211556.LAA02857@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: IPX? Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >#define quoting(John Hay) >// > // > I'd really like to be able to gateway TCP/IP to IPX/SPX... >// > // >// > // Ouch. IPX is such a mess I don't think I'd want to touch it, much less >// > // try to gateway a superior protocol (TCP) to it. >// > >// > Do you mean that FreeBSD's IPX implementation is a mess or that IPX >// > protocol stack is a mess ? >// > >// > Hope you mean the first (I feel this too), because IPX is a datagram >// > protocol just as bad as IP in definition. >// >// What except for the one host address don't you like? I would really like >// to know. I plan to do some more work on IPX as soon as I can get the >// SDL RISCom device drivers finished. > >// John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za > > The one host problem is the first to come to my mind. I'd like also to >play with other frame encapsulations like 802.3 and 802.2, but this would >be just for amusement. I know there's something else, but I can't remem- >ber what is it. My production machines run 2.1 which doesn't have IPX, >and my desktop machine doesn't boot 2.2 (don't know why). This test has >been done on a temporary basis. > > If I remember the problem or find anything else I'll send it to you, >privately. The biggest deal is IPXWAN, which is a pain in the butt, and perhaps IPXCP for PPP. If you're connecting 2 FreeBSD boxes, you can get around the IPXWAN (cause you dont really need it), but you need it to be interoperable with real Netware routers. We had it working at one point, but haven't maintained it in a while. Our local IPX works nicely, so it shouldnt be a big deal. The question is do we integrate it with our own stuff (which is nice 'cause there's no extra charge), The freebsd stuff, which I really haven't seen but is clearly not complete, or Netcon's server, which would have the most commercial value but isnt free. I'd really love to use FreeBSDs, but I can't go to 2.2 (does it work with 2.1.5?) and our local routing is so lightning fast (it bypasses the traditional "protocol stack" with local caching and an internal routing table) I'd hate to suffer speed-wise (as we use it ourselves). Hmm, now that we've developed an activation mechanism, maybe we can make it a stand-alone add-on? Too much to think about on a Sunday :-) Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous PC Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX. From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 10:13:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16632 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-79.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.79]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16627; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00268; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607211713.KAA00268@precipice.shockwave.com> To: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org cc: wollman@freebsd.org Subject: tcp w/SACK Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:13:09 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone else already signed up for tcp w/SACK porting into FreeBSD? It looks like the NetBSD code should be available soon. As soon as it settles down, I was thinking of merging it in. From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 10:14:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16745 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-79.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.79]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16720; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00277; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607211713.KAA00277@precipice.shockwave.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:13:53 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 11:14:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18838 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18821; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA15909; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:14:10 -0700 (PDT) To: Paul Traina cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:13:53 PDT." <199607211713.KAA00277@precipice.shockwave.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:14:10 -0700 Message-ID: <15906.837972850@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think Robert Nordier is working on a complete re-write, actually. How's that going, Robert? Jordan From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 11:27:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19369 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.my.domain (root@morrison-c21.aa.net [204.157.220.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19363 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00451 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Sujal Patel X-Sender: smpatel@localhost Reply-To: Sujal Patel To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD-like CVS 'log' Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone have a 'log' perl script that formats output like FreeBSD commits but doesn't contain all of the extra stuff that freefall's version of the script has? I'd hate to have to dive into that perl script. Sujal From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 12:05:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20353 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (axp5.fddi5B.fu-berlin.de [160.45.5.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20348 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mordillo (lislip.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.33.82]) by axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA18389 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:01:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04056 for hackers@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:01:31 +0200 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199607211901.VAA04056@mordillo> Subject: Be goes FreeBSD :-) To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:01:30 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk wow: graichen@mordillo:~> telnet www.be.com Trying 140.174.204.94... Connected to www.be.com. Escape character is '^]'. FreeBSD (www.be.com) (ttyp0) login: t -- thomas graichen graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de graichen@FreeBSD.org perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away antoine de saint-exupery From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 13:05:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22802 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 13:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22792 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 13:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA07568 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:04:46 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0ui4k9-00021XC; Sun, 21 Jul 96 22:04 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA273489370; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:02:50 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199607212002.AA273489370@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Be goes FreeBSD :-) To: graichen@axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Graichen) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:02:50 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607211901.VAA04056@mordillo> from "Thomas Graichen" at Jul 21, 96 09:01:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Thomas Graichen wrote: > > wow: > > graichen@mordillo:~> telnet www.be.com > Trying 140.174.204.94... > Connected to www.be.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > > FreeBSD (www.be.com) (ttyp0) > > login: So much about the fabled BeOS networking capabilities ... /Marino PS> At least they have good taste :) From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 13:38:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26285 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 13:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merix.merix.com (merix.merix.com [198.145.172.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26213 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 13:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandy.merix.com by merix.merix.com with SMTP (1.38.110.45/16.2) id AA076431723; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 13:42:03 -0700 Received: by sandy.merix.com (4.1/8.0) id AA18676; Sun, 21 Jul 96 13:36:11 PDT Date: Sun, 21 Jul 96 13:36:11 PDT Subject: Re: Be goes FreeBSD :-) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Troy Curtiss Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199607211901.VAA04056@mordillo> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Thomas Graichen wisely stated: > wow: > > graichen@mordillo:~> telnet www.be.com > Trying 140.174.204.94... > Connected to www.be.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > > FreeBSD (www.be.com) (ttyp0) > > login: > So.... who's gonna port FreeBSD over to the Be-Box, it looks like they already know who we are :) (Terry??) Check out http://www.be.com , looks like a really cool chunk of hardware to do SMP on PPC using BSD ;) -- /-----------------------------------------------------------\ | Troy Curtiss, HW/SW Engineer | Email: troyc@merix.com | | Merix Corporation, CL-302 | Phone: (970) 203-6643 | | Loveland, CO 80537 | Fax : (970) 203-6610 | \-----------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 14:04:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28029 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jau.csc.fi (root@jau.csc.fi [193.166.1.196]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28016 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jau@localhost) by jau.csc.fi (8.7.5/8.6.12+CSC-2.1) id AAA22126 for hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:02:43 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jukka Ukkonen Message-Id: <199607212102.AAA22126@jau.csc.fi> Subject: Sun style -p option to mount To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:48:41 +0300 (EET DST) Reply-To: jau@iki.fi Latin-Date: Duminice XXI Iulie a.d. MCMXCVI Organization: Private person Phone: +358-0-6215280 (home) Content-Conversion: prohibited X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25+pgp] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello everybody, I have added a new option -p to the mount command. This was inspired by SunOS version of mount which uses option -p to indicate that the mount information should be printed in fstab format. This is a neat way to create a new fstab file to use later when one has modified the mount points or mount options or added or removed mount some mount points. You just type mount -p > /etc/fstab.new and there is your new fstab file ready to be used though you will of course have to add any necessary noauto flags manually. The patch is attached below. Cheers, // jau ------ / Jukka A. Ukkonen, FUNET / Centre for Scientific Computing /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) Tel: (Home&Fax) +358-0-6215280 / Internet: jau@iki.fi (Work) +358-0-4573208 / Internet: jau@funet.fi (Mobile) +358-400-606671 v Internet: ukkonen@csc.fi ------------------------------ clip clip ------------------------------ --- mount.c.orig Wed Aug 30 12:22:02 1995 +++ mount.c Sun Jul 21 23:30:57 1996 @@ -59,6 +59,9 @@ #include "pathnames.h" int debug, verbose, skipvfs; +int fstab_style = 0; + +static char *mnttype[] = INITMOUNTNAMES; int badvfsname __P((const char *, const char **)); int badvfstype __P((int, const char **)); @@ -72,6 +75,7 @@ int, const char *, const char *)); void prmount __P((const char *, const char *, int)); void usage __P((void)); +void putfsent __P((const struct statfs *)); /* From mount_ufs.c. */ int mount_ufs __P((int, char * const *)); @@ -112,8 +116,12 @@ options = NULL; vfslist = NULL; vfstype = "ufs"; - while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "adfo:rwt:uv")) != EOF) + while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "padfo:rwt:uv")) != EOF) switch (ch) { + case 'p': + fstab_style = 1; + verbose = 1; + break; case 'a': all = 1; break; @@ -173,6 +181,15 @@ fs->fs_mntops)) rval = 1; } + else if (fstab_style) { + if ((mntsize = getmntinfo(&mntbuf, MNT_NOWAIT)) == 0) + err(1, "getmntinfo"); + for (i = 0; i < mntsize; i++) { + if (badvfstype(mntbuf[i].f_type, vfslist)) + continue; + putfsent (&mntbuf[i]); + } + } else { if ((mntsize = getmntinfo(&mntbuf, MNT_NOWAIT)) == 0) err(1, "getmntinfo"); @@ -361,7 +378,12 @@ warn("%s", name); return (1); } - prmount(sf.f_mntfromname, sf.f_mntonname, sf.f_flags); + + if (fstab_style) + putfsent (&sf); + else + prmount (sf.f_mntfromname, + sf.f_mntonname, sf.f_flags); } break; } @@ -519,9 +541,48 @@ (void)fprintf(stderr, "usage: mount %s %s\n mount %s\n mount %s\n", - "[-dfruvw] [-o options] [-t ufs | external_type]", + "[-dfpruvw] [-o options] [-t ufs | external_type]", "special node", - "[-adfruvw] [-t ufs | external_type]", - "[-dfruvw] special | node"); + "[-adfpruvw] [-t ufs | external_type]", + "[-dfpruvw] special | node"); exit(1); +} + +void +putfsent (ent) + const struct statfs *ent; +{ + struct fstab *fst; + + printf ("%s\t%s\t%s %s", + ent->f_mntfromname, ent->f_mntonname, + mnttype[ent->f_type], + (ent->f_flags & MNT_RDONLY) ? "ro" : "rw"); + + if (ent->f_flags & MNT_SYNCHRONOUS) + printf (",sync"); + + if (ent->f_flags & MNT_NOEXEC) + printf (",noexec"); + + if (ent->f_flags & MNT_NOSUID) + printf (",nosuid"); + + if (ent->f_flags & MNT_NODEV) + printf (",nodev"); + + if (ent->f_flags & MNT_UNION) + printf (",union"); + + if (ent->f_flags & MNT_ASYNC) + printf (",async"); + + if (fst = getfsspec (ent->f_mntfromname)) + printf ("\t%u %u\n", fst->fs_freq, fst->fs_passno); + else if (fst = getfsfile (ent->f_mntonname)) + printf ("\t%u %u\n", fst->fs_freq, fst->fs_passno); + else if (ent->f_type == MOUNT_UFS) + printf ("\t1 1\n"); + else + printf ("\t0 0\n"); } --- mount.8.orig Wed Aug 30 12:22:00 1995 +++ mount.8 Sun Jul 21 23:55:40 1996 @@ -39,13 +39,13 @@ .Nd mount file systems .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm mount -.Op Fl adfruvw +.Op Fl adfpruvw .Op Fl t Ar ufs | lfs | external_type .Nm mount -.Op Fl dfruvw +.Op Fl dfpruvw .Ar special | node .Nm mount -.Op Fl dfruvw +.Op Fl dfpruvw .Op Fl o Ar options .Op Fl t Ar ufs | lfs | external_type .Ar special node @@ -163,6 +163,10 @@ .Bd -literal -offset indent /sbin/mount_mfs -o nosuid -N -s 4000 /dev/dk0b /tmp .Ed +.It Fl p +Print mount information in fstab format. Implies also the +.Fl v +option. .It Fl r The file system is to be mounted read-only. Mount the file system read-only (even the super-user may not write it). From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 15:15:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00577 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (root@linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00572 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uni4nn.iaf.nl (root@uni4nn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.33]) by linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA06313; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:16:44 +0200 Received: by uni4nn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA26855 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:16:13 +0200 Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA20020 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:04:09 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA00324; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:36:25 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199607212036.WAA00324@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands Subject: Re: Be goes FreeBSD :-) To: graichen@axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Graichen) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:36:25 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607211901.VAA04056@mordillo> from "Thomas Graichen" at Jul 21, 96 09:01:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Thomas Graichen wrote... > > wow: > > graichen@mordillo:~> telnet www.be.com > Trying 140.174.204.94... > Connected to www.be.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > > FreeBSD (www.be.com) (ttyp0) I plead guilty on ingnorance: what is 'be' ? Wilko _ ____________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 15:27:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00896 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00889 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id AAA04572; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:27:14 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA16322; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:27:14 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA00752; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:11:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607212111.XAA00752@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Adding drives with sysinstall To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:11:49 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: fcurrent@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607211444.OAA01402@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from James Raynard at "Jul 21, 96 02:44:22 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As James Raynard wrote: > Anyway, the sysinstall that's now in -current (and presumably in > 2.1.5) has a command-line option that allows you to add a new disk > and bale out gracefully. Unfortunately I don't have any space to > 'make release' here (nor do I have a second disk any more), but I > think the relevant possibilities are:- Btw., you don't need the space to ``make release''. Simply "cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall; make" should get you a new binary. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 15:45:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01532 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01527 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00293; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607212245.PAA00293@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Wilko Bulte cc: graichen@axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Graichen), hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Be goes FreeBSD :-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:36:25 +0200." <199607212036.WAA00324@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:45:00 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Wilko Bulte : > As Thomas Graichen wrote... > > > > wow: > > > > graichen@mordillo:~> telnet www.be.com > > Trying 140.174.204.94... > > Connected to www.be.com. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > > FreeBSD (www.be.com) (ttyp0) > > I plead guilty on ingnorance: what is 'be' ? > > Wilko Yes you are guilty to atone check out: http://www.be.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 15:45:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01559 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matlock.mindspring.com (matlock.mindspring.com [204.180.128.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01553 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itchy.mindspring.com (itchy.mindspring.com [204.180.128.6]) by matlock.mindspring.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA00747 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 18:45:41 -0400 Received: from borg.mindspring.com (borg.mindspring.com [204.180.128.14]) by itchy.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29457 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 18:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by borg.mindspring.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA05524 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 18:45:39 -0400 Received: (from news@localhost) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA64106; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 18:45:40 -0400 To: lists-freebsd-hackers@matlock.mindspring.com Path: reflections.mindspring.com!tlewis From: Todd Graham Lewis Newsgroups: lists.freebsd.hackers Subject: Re: Retake .. Re: IP masquerading over tunel device Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 18:45:40 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <199607182224.PAA01404@cozumel.tcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: reflections.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199607182224.PAA01404@cozumel.tcs.com> Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Douglas Ambrisko wrote: > The solution I use at home, is to run Socks on my gateway machine and then > setup everything to go through that. Since Netscape supports Socks, > things work well at with 4 machines running FreeBSD/MS-Windows sharing > one ppp session. The problem is that Socks5 is really nice except it is > a very fast moving target (...) If you are going to do a firewall-style setup under BSD, then you might also wish to consider a combination of the TIS firewall tookit and the harvest cache server. Harvest is much faster than socks, and you can use Netscape with it as well. You might also wish to consider using a small (386) Linux box until the BSD support for masquerade is up to speed. If you want to use BSD, though, the first solution should be a pretty good ont. Hope this helps. _____________________________________________________________________ Todd Graham Lewis Linux! Core Engineering Mindspring Enterprises tlewis@mindspring.com (800) 719 4664, x2804 From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 16:34:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA03091 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 16:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03084 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 16:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA16686; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 16:34:02 -0700 (PDT) To: jau@iki.fi cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sun style -p option to mount In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:48:41 +0300." <199607212102.AAA22126@jau.csc.fi> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 16:34:01 -0700 Message-ID: <16684.837992041@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have added a new option -p to the mount command. This was > inspired by SunOS version of mount which uses option -p to > indicate that the mount information should be printed in fstab > format. Nifty! Committed. Jordan From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 17:38:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05652 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 17:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA05647 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 17:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00830 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 17:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607220038.RAA00830@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: ILU anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 17:38:40 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just playing around here with ILU and was wondering if anyone else is working on ILU... ftp://ftp.parc.xerox.com/pub/ilu/ilu.html Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 19:17:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08977 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 19:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hq.icb.chel.su (icb-rich-gw.icb.chel.su [193.125.10.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08953 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 19:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (babkin@localhost) by hq.icb.chel.su (8.7.5/8.6.5) id IAA20806 for hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:19:20 +0600 (GMT+0600) From: "Serge A. Babkin" Message-Id: <199607220219.IAA20806@hq.icb.chel.su> Subject: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:19:19 +0600 (ESD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have written an Ethernet-like loopback driver. All its interfaces are "connected" to the same virtual Ethernet. The idea is to add the link-level raw socket interface and use it to implement network access from the MS-DOS emulator. It must look like: | | Virtual internal LAN +---- Unix router ------------------------- DOS emulator | | Real LAN It is useful also for experiments with network protocols if you have no real network (like me at home). Is anyone interested in it? By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. Was it a real bug or feature ? -SB From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 20:02:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA11108 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 20:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11103 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 20:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA28767; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 20:02:29 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607220302.UAA28767@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: ILU anyone? To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 20:02:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607220038.RAA00830@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Jul 21, 96 05:38:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just playing around here with ILU and was wondering if anyone else > is working on ILU... > > ftp://ftp.parc.xerox.com/pub/ilu/ilu.html Yes. I am looking at porting it -- but NOT to FreeBSD... :> --don From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 21:05:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA13367 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13312 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA10849; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 05:58:14 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607220358.FAA10849@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX To: babkin@hq.icb.chel.su (Serge A. Babkin) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 05:58:14 +0200 (SAT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607220219.IAA20806@hq.icb.chel.su> from "Serge A. Babkin" at "Jul 22, 96 08:19:19 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ... > > By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed > only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. > Was it a real bug or feature ? > It is a leftover from its XNS days. If you send me the patches for IPX, I will look it over and commit it. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 22:34:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA16214 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-51.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16176; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03617; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607220534.WAA03617@precipice.shockwave.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:14:10 PDT." <15906.837972850@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:34:02 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Do we -need- a complete rewrite? It looks like the current NetBSD version is actually in pretty damn good shape. Unfortunately, detangling changes is not going to be bloody easy (). Paul From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? I think Robert Nordier is working on a complete re-write, actually. How's that going, Robert? Jordan From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 23:02:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA18189 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hq.icb.chel.su (icb-rich-gw.icb.chel.su [193.125.10.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18133 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (babkin@localhost) by hq.icb.chel.su (8.7.5/8.6.5) id LAA00246; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:58:49 +0600 (GMT+0600) From: "Serge A. Babkin" Message-Id: <199607220558.LAA00246@hq.icb.chel.su> Subject: Re: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:58:48 +0600 (ESD) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607220358.FAA10849@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> from "John Hay" at Jul 22, 96 05:58:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > ... > > > > By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed > > only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. > > Was it a real bug or feature ? > > > > It is a leftover from its XNS days. If you send me the patches for > IPX, I will look it over and commit it. OK, I'll do it tomorrow (the patches are on my home box but I have e-main at work). -SB From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 00:21:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA22741 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22706; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA02406; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:21:27 -0700 (PDT) To: Paul Traina cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:34:02 PDT." <199607220534.WAA03617@precipice.shockwave.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:21:27 -0700 Message-ID: <2404.838020087@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Do we -need- a complete rewrite? It looks like the current NetBSD version Well, the last person to look at it concluded that it was a steaming heap of bits, so I'm just going by his opinion. In the final analysis, be it NetBSD's code or a complete rewrite, it's still down to whomever's willing to do the work anyway.. Jordan From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 00:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA24833 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24814; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA10622; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607220751.AAA10622@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Paul Traina cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:34:02 PDT." <199607220534.WAA03617@precipice.shockwave.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:51:21 -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Do we -need- a complete rewrite? It looks like the current NetBSD version >is actually in pretty damn good shape. We obviously have very different opinions about what "damn good shape" means. While the NetBSD version on the whole has likely been better maintained and has fewer bugs, it also appears to lack some important fixes that we have in our version. In any case, the msdosfs code in both FreeBSD and NetBSD reminds me of a festering sore, and in my opinion, should be rewritten. It's going to take far more than just a few patches to make it 'better'. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 01:05:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA25451 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 01:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA25446 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 01:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02358; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:05:29 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:05:28 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Amancio Hasty cc: hackers@freebsd.com Subject: Re: ip redirection? In-Reply-To: <199607192247.PAA00373@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > My setup is : > > > P100 <-----> Ascend router > ^ > | > v > 486dx266 > > > My problem is that my Ascend router at least the license that I have > only responds to one MAC address. > > What I want to do is connect the 486dx266 then be able to access the > Net with my P100. Turn IP forwarding on on the P100 and use it as the dx4's default gw (or round the other way.) You might need to do subnetting and IP aliasing so that you have two separate subnets on the same cable (or buy another ethernet card). Danny From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 01:24:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA26131 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 01:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA26119 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 01:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA00496; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 01:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607220821.BAA00496@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: hackers@freebsd.com Subject: Re: ip redirection? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:05:28 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 01:21:52 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Daniel O'Callaghan" : > > > On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > My setup is : > > > > > > P100 <-----> Ascend router > > ^ > > | > > v > > 486dx266 > > > > > > My problem is that my Ascend router at least the license that I have > > only responds to one MAC address. > > > > What I want to do is connect the 486dx266 then be able to access the > > Net with my P100. > > Turn IP forwarding on on the P100 and use it as the dx4's default gw (or > round the other way.) You might need to do subnetting and IP aliasing so > that you have two separate subnets on the same cable (or buy another > ethernet card). > > Danny Dumb question : How do I turn IP forwarding on? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 02:19:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28622 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 02:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nike.efn.org (gurney_j@garcia.efn.org [198.68.17.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28615 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 02:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.efn.org [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA25407 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 02:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 02:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: turning off swap interleaving Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am wondering if there is a way to disable interleaving... or best yet... tell it not to use one partition of swap until another is used up... the reason I ask is because I reciently came very close to running out of swap so I created a 16meg file, vnconfiged it... and swapped it on... then I relized that the interleaving will actually kill performance when it swap... while it would be better to tell it to use the original swap until that is full... any body thought of this before? thanks for the help... TTYL... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 05:38:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA05374 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 05:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA05369 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 05:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa00724; 22 Jul 96 11:15 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa08241; 22 Jul 96 9:53 +0100 Received: (from fhackers@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA00674; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:15:27 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199607220015.AAA00674@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Be goes FreeBSD :-) To: Troy Curtiss Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:15:27 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Troy Curtiss" at Jul 21, 96 01:36:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Note Reply-To set to point at -chat) > As Thomas Graichen wisely stated: > > wow: > > > > graichen@mordillo:~> telnet www.be.com > > Trying 140.174.204.94... > > Connected to www.be.com. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > > FreeBSD (www.be.com) (ttyp0) > > > > login: > > > > So.... who's gonna port FreeBSD over to the Be-Box, it looks > like they already know who we are :) (Terry??) Check out > http://www.be.com , looks like a really cool chunk of hardware > to do SMP on PPC using BSD ;) And I thought this was going to be a posting about Belgium... From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 06:48:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA07558 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA07552 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23451; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607221346.JAA23451@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Authentication-Warning: whizzo.transsys.com: Host localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: John Hay cc: babkin@hq.icb.chel.su (Serge A. Babkin), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX References: <199607220358.FAA10849@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Jul 1996 05:58:14 +0200." <199607220358.FAA10849@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:46:36 -0400 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > ... > > > > By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed > > only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. > > Was it a real bug or feature ? > > > > It is a leftover from its XNS days. If you send me the patches for > IPX, I will look it over and commit it. It's not a bug, but a feature. Having a single address for your end-station make quite a few other weirdnesses in the protocol stack and application just go away. louie From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 06:55:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA07835 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA07822 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by teil.soft.net (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for hackers@freebsd.org id AA17217; Mon, 22 Jul 96 19:23:58 -0800 From: rishim@teil.soft.net (Rishi Gautam) Message-Id: <9607230323.AA17217@teil.soft.net> Subject: ifconfig To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:23:57 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I am trying to configure my machine interface by ifconfig command. I want to add another alias address for the interface with the ifconfig command. ifconfig ed1 alias [address] netmask [netmask] if I am using the netmask option with netmask same as of the netmask of the exsisting configured addres, I am getting error "File exsits" If I didn't using the netmas option or giving some other netmask the command exits succesfully. But if I typed the "ifconfig ed1", it doesn't show me all the address. It shows only the old address. Even if I don't use the alias option in the ifconfig command I found the same problem. For the "ifconfig ed1", it shows the old address. I didn't understand the logic. If anybody has the answer for it, please reply. Rishi From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 08:18:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA11832 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cheops.anu.edu.au (avalon@cheops.anu.edu.au [150.203.76.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11822 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607221517.IAA11822@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by cheops.anu.edu.au (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA061198658; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:17:39 +1000 From: Darren Reed Subject: Re: IP masquerading over tunel device To: julian@ref.tfs.com (JULIAN Elischer) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:17:38 +1000 (EST) Cc: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au, noel@harleystreet.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607191753.KAA26403@ref.tfs.com> from "JULIAN Elischer" at Jul 19, 96 10:53:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In some mail from JULIAN Elischer, sie said: > > darren, your web page seems to point to a non existantfile > (or so netscape says.. > ftp://coombs.anu.edu.au/pub/net/kernel/ip-fil3.1.0.tar.gz > retunrs an error) this was an oops :) fixed. thanks, Darren > I'm surprised that I haven't heard more about this.. > oh well. > > so this is a kernel module(!?) > I thought it was a user process you're thinking of screend > so now we have two conflicting competing kernel ip filters.. > (aint competition great?) You bet it is :-) > is this the original ip filtering package someone submitted back > in the old 386BSD days? No. From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 08:53:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA13134 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA13129; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA01169 ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:53:03 -0700 Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15072(2)>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:50:22 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-TB) id AA11185; Mon, 22 Jul 96 11:50:28 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11149; Mon, 22 Jul 96 11:50:26 EDT Message-Id: <9607221550.AA11149@gnu.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hackers), questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROMS (was: help) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jul 1996 02:31:49 PDT." <199607160931.LAA17073@allegro.lemis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:50:23 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I found the only reliable way to install was either to: 1) copy the files to a dos partition 2) install over nfs I have ATAPI drives which also had problems...without a second machine, I'd recommend the first strategy. -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 09:01:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA13545 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pelican.altadena.net (pelican.dial.interworld.net [206.124.240.237]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13504; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pelican.altadena.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #10) id m0uiNLw-0000RhC; Mon, 22 Jul 96 08:57 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 08:57 PDT From: pete@pelican.altadena.net (Pete Carah) To: ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu Subject: Re: Kerberized/encrypted rlogins - 2.1.5 incompatible with everything else? Newsgroups: freebsd.questions In-Reply-To: Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you write: > >I just upgraded two 2.1 machines to 2.1.5 yesterday, and now when I try to >login to them from my FreeBSD 2.1 workstation via kerberos-encrypted >rlogin sessions, I get gibberish! Non-encrypted kerberos rlogin sessions >work fine between 2.1 and 2.1.5 systems, but encrypted sessions, my >prefered method, do not work in either direction between 2.1.5 and >anything other system. ldd of rlogin and rlogind on the 2.1.5 systems >show: >/usr/bin/rlogin: > -lcom_err.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 (0x8034000) > -lkrb.2 => /usr/lib/libkrb.so.2.1 (0x801e000) > -ldes.2 => /usr/lib/libdes.so.2.1 (0x8043000) > -lc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.so.2.2 (0x804f000) >/usr/libexec/rlogind: > -lutil.2 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1 (0x801d000) > -lcom_err.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 (0x8018000) > -lkrb.2 => /usr/lib/libkrb.so.2.1 (0x802c000) > -ldes.2 => /usr/lib/libdes.so.2.1 (0x8042000) > -lc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.so.2.2 (0x804e000) >Very strange... I see no significant difference in the rlogind code, so I >guess I'll have to dig into libdes :-( Any thoughts? Well, I just rebuilt all of eBones without the rest of secure with no effect (of course the bug could be in the source so that wouldn't matter). Could be a missing/extra 'endian' indication somewhere but somehow I don't think so or the logins shouldn't work either... I sent a note to Jordan the night after the release which he supposedly forwarded to someone but haven't heard anything back. This is a pain since that has never gotten broken before and I use it heavily. At least I've only installed one machine so far. When I get time :-) I'll cdiff the last snap (which worked) from the release sources (at least if I haven't nuked the last snap's source from where it was...). -- Pete From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 09:39:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15550 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.isf.rl.af.mil (ARIES.ISF.RL.AF.MIL [128.132.64.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15545 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from green@localhost) by aries.isf.rl.af.mil (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17566 for hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:38:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Kenneth Green - PRC Message-Id: <199607221638.MAA17566@aries.isf.rl.af.mil> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Tape drive Help Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a 4gig Sun tape drive reported as: (ahc0:4:0): "ARCHIVE Python 28454-XXX 4.BL" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x8c, 512-byte blocks, write-enabled and a mt -f /dev/rst0 status reports: Present Mode: Density = 0x8c Blocksize variable ---------available modes--------- Mode 0: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable Mode 1: Density = X3.136-1986 Blocksize = 512 bytes Mode 2: Density = X3.39-1986 Blocksize variable Mode 3: Density = X3.54-1986 Blocksize variable At present, if I use dump to backup my system I am unable to restore the dump on my freebsd system. Restore Reports "tape read error: Input/output error". However, if I take the tape over to a Solaris system with the exact same tape drive attached to it, I am able to do a restore. (Also worth noting, "tape read error: Input/output error" is also reported if I attempt to restore a tape bad on the Solaris system (/dev/rmt/0bn)). My current hypothosis is that the problem has something to do with the fact that the drive's blocksize (reported by mt) is set to variable. Any thoughts on how to cure my problem? I'd like to be able to read my old dumps on my freebsd system. Charles Green From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 09:44:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15846 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daniel.sobral ([200.239.56.123]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15837 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by daniel.sobral (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00215; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:35:40 -0300 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:35:40 -0300 (EST) From: "Daniel C. Sobral ROOT" X-Sender: root@daniel.sobral To: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: IDE CD-ROM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've lost the e-mail of the other guy working on IDE CD-ROMs. I hope you _did_ subscribe to harkers... :-) You said you were using SFF-8020 specifications. Are you aware of the SFF-8028R10 errata? -- Daniel C. Sobral dcs@gns.com.br e8917523@linf.unb.br From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 10:25:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19009 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 10:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19004 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 10:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com ([206.245.251.1]) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA04225 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 10:17:06 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15674; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607221650.JAA15674@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: BSDCON To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:50:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "JULIAN Elischer" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607191517.LAA27971@etinc.com> from "Dennis" at Jul 19, 96 11:17:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > >There is no ``invite list''. Anyone who has any relationship (apart > >from sworn enemy :-) ) to the *BSD camp is more than welcome to > >come... so this is the first I have ever heard of this.. can someone let me in on the secret? From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 11:02:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20512 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20507 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Guard.LP.Lviv.UA (Guard.PolyNet.Lviv.UA) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA13819 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:00:58 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by Guard.LP.Lviv.UA (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA16787 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:49:07 +0300 Received: from netsurfer.lp.lviv.ua(192.168.0.3) by Guard.LP.Lviv.UA via smap (V2.0alpha) id xma016785; Mon, 22 Jul 96 19:48:39 +0300 Received: (smap@localhost) by NetSurfer.LP.Lviv.UA (8.6.11/8.3) id TAA04192; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:45:57 +0300 Received: from nova.lp.lviv.ua(192.168.0.6) by NetSurfer.LP.Lviv.UA via smap (V1.3) id sma004190; Mon Jul 22 19:45:31 1996 Message-Id: <31F3B037.167E@polynet.lviv.ua> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:45:43 +0300 From: Terletsky Slavik Organization: State University "Lvivska Polytechnicka" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Hackers mailing list Subject: How can I trap the CTRL-ALT-DEL combination Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi When I need to reboot my remote router I call untrusted poeple to switch OFF & ON the box, but would it be nice to do that traping CTRL-ALT-DEL combination && reboot. Where can I do it? -- # Terletsky Slavik # University "Lvivska Poytechnica" # # Network Administrator # http://www.polynet.lviv.ua/~ts # # tel/fax:+380(322)742041 # mailto:ts@polynet.lviv.ua # From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 11:09:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20849 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (h196-7-192-155.iafrica.com [196.7.192.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20833; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00225; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:08:13 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199607221808.UAA00225@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:08:11 +0200 (SAT) Cc: pst@shockwave.com, hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15906.837972850@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 21, 96 11:14:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I think Robert Nordier is working on a complete re-write, actually. > How's that going, Robert? > > Jordan > The FAT fs primitives are done and tested and I'm currently working on VFAT support. Microsoft is shortly to be introducing a FAT32 filesystem to Windows 95 which will increase maximum filesystem size from 2 (or 4, for NT) gigabytes to 2 terabytes. The new filesystem makes use of 32-bit (as opposed to 12-bit and 16-bit) FAT entries and will require a fundamentally different handling of boot record, FATs, and root directory, so I'm busy on provision for this also. The changes required for FAT32 support would probably be rather difficult to graft onto the msdosfs at this stage: possibly another factor supporting the decision to re-implement DOS/Win filesystem support on FreeBSD. FAT32 is supposedly due for public release in the fall. I'm currently working towards a similar release date for the new filesystem. -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 11:34:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22270 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from casual1.enci.ucalgary.ca (casual1.enci.ucalgary.ca [136.159.125.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22263 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walter (ts2-port-39.acs.ucalgary.ca [136.159.200.121]) by casual1.enci.ucalgary.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA18920; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:35:58 -0600 Received: by walter (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uh9Dz-00060TC; Fri, 19 Jul 96 00:39 MDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 00:39 MDT From: Gord Matzigkeit To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: PINT scanner device driver X-Attribution: Gord Reply-to: Gord Matzigkeit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, all! I'm working on a port of the PINT device driver (PINT Is Not Twain) to FreeBSD. Could you assign a character device major number for this SCSI scanner driver? On NetBSD/i386 1.2 it lives at major number 18. Thanks a lot, --Gord -- Gord Matzigkeit | Humbly running the GNU Hurd (0.0 pre-alpha). gord@enci.ucalgary.ca | Jacques Cousteau loved programming in assembler. From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 11:52:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24620 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24613 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21392; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607221851.MAA21392@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Gord Matzigkeit Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PINT scanner device driver In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gord Matzigkeit writes: > Hi, all! > > I'm working on a port of the PINT device driver (PINT Is Not Twain) to > FreeBSD. I did this a while back, and even have my work stashed away some place if you're interested in it. It should still be applicable to pre-2.1.5 as I even kept the patches up to date via CVS, but I deleted them when I upgraded, and would have to get it off backups (which I might not have done). :( However, I couldn't get it to work, but in the process of debugging it found the user-mode driver that Richard Tobin wrote (now a port called hpscan) which works with all of the HP scanners I've come in contact with, which happened to be one of those I had. > Could you assign a character device major number for this SCSI scanner > driver? On NetBSD/i386 1.2 it lives at major number 18. In -current, there are no 'assigned' major numbers anymore as we are moving towards DEVFS. For now, I'd steal a major number and see if you can get it working first. Nate From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 11:52:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24673 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24649; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA01064; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:52:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:52:04 -0400 From: Charles Green Message-Id: <199607221852.OAA01064@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> In-Reply-To: Robert Nordier "Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels?" (Jul 22, 20:08) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Robert Nordier Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Nordier stands accused of saying: } Date: Jul 22, 20:08 } Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? } Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: } > } > I think Robert Nordier is working on a complete re-write, actually. } > How's that going, Robert? } > } > Jordan } > } } The FAT fs primitives are done and tested and I'm currently working } on VFAT support. } } Microsoft is shortly to be introducing a FAT32 filesystem to Windows } 95 which will increase maximum filesystem size from 2 (or 4, for } NT) gigabytes to 2 terabytes. The new filesystem makes use of } 32-bit (as opposed to 12-bit and 16-bit) FAT entries and will } require a fundamentally different handling of boot record, FATs, } and root directory, so I'm busy on provision for this also. } } The changes required for FAT32 support would probably be rather } difficult to graft onto the msdosfs at this stage: possibly another } factor supporting the decision to re-implement DOS/Win filesystem } support on FreeBSD. } } FAT32 is supposedly due for public release in the fall. I'm } currently working towards a similar release date for the new } filesystem. } } -- } Robert Nordier }-- End of excerpt from Robert Nordier How soon will we see the integration of at least the FAT fs support into -current? -- Charles Green, PRC Inc. Research & Development Rome Laboratory, NY From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 12:00:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25730 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (h196-7-192-190.iafrica.com [196.7.192.190]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25623; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00383; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:58:04 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199607221858.UAA00383@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? To: pst@shockwave.com (Paul Traina) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:58:02 +0200 (SAT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607220534.WAA03617@precipice.shockwave.com> from "Paul Traina" at Jul 21, 96 10:34:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul Traina wrote: > > Do we -need- a complete rewrite? It looks like the current NetBSD version > is actually in pretty damn good shape. Unfortunately, detangling changes > is not going to be bloody easy ( source code changes>). > > Paul I ran some fairly extensive tests on the FreeBSD msdosfs several months ago. At that stage, it seemed to me to have fundamental problems that did not appear to be addressed (or easily addressable), even taking into account NetBSD diffs. Unfortunately - as you mention - the NetBSD code contains many changes that are more stylistic than functional. Over the last few weeks, I've been working on a few msdosfs patches myself. However, the most serious FreeBSD msdosfs problem (where it causes corruption to other partitions) apparently needs a 64-cluster FIPS-ed FAT filesystem with an EIDE controller translating to 64 heads, 63 sectors to be readily reproducible. (At least, I haven't reproduced it on any other 64-cluster filesystems.) Personally, I'd be glad if someone did succumb to the urge to bring NetBSD changes across to the msdosfs. That way, I could forget msdosfs patches, and concentrate on getting the new vfatfs finished. The vfatfs would then also have to be demonstrably better than an improved msdosfs to be worth adopting: a good incentive, and probably a good thing for FreeBSD generally. -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 12:15:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27683 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matlock.mindspring.com (matlock.mindspring.com [204.180.128.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27670 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.tcsi.com (tcsi.com [137.134.47.2]) by matlock.mindspring.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA21473 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:14:59 -0400 Received: from draco.tcs.com (draco.tcs.com [137.134.40.2]) by gateway.tcsi.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20950; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cozumel.tcs.com (cozumel.tcs.com [137.134.104.12]) by draco.tcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00459; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Douglas Ambrisko Received: (ambrisko@localhost) by cozumel.tcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA01452; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:14:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199607221914.MAA01452@cozumel.tcs.com> Subject: Re: Retake .. Re: IP masquerading over tunel device To: tlewis@mindspring.com (Todd Graham Lewis) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Cc: lists-freebsd-hackers@matlock.mindspring.com In-Reply-To: from "Todd Graham Lewis" at Jul 21, 96 06:45:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Todd Graham Lewis writes: | | On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Douglas Ambrisko wrote: | | > The solution I use at home, is to run Socks on my gateway machine and then | > setup everything to go through that. Since Netscape supports Socks, | > things work well at with 4 machines running FreeBSD/MS-Windows sharing | > one ppp session. The problem is that Socks5 is really nice except it is | > a very fast moving target | (...) | | If you are going to do a firewall-style setup under BSD, then you might | also wish to consider a combination of the TIS firewall tookit and the | harvest cache server. Harvest is much faster than socks, and you can use | Netscape with it as well. Does TIS, support socks'fying bins built with shared libs? With the intercepting, pre-load lib in Socks5 I can magically run emacs, perl etc. through a Socks firewall without recompiling. BTW beta 0.16.4 works nicely again on FreeBSD. Doug A. From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 12:41:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00354 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00337 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by misery.sdf.com (8.7.5/UNS-1.0) with SMTP id MAA20242; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Terletsky Slavik cc: FreeBSD Hackers mailing list Subject: Re: How can I trap the CTRL-ALT-DEL combination In-Reply-To: <31F3B037.167E@polynet.lviv.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Terletsky Slavik wrote: > Hi > When I need to reboot my remote router I call untrusted poeple to > switch OFF & ON the box, but would it be nice to do that traping > CTRL-ALT-DEL combination && reboot. Where can I do it? But a CTRL-ALT-DEL does do a reboot... Tom From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 12:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01408 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper101149.iafrica.com [196.7.101.149]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01368; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00711; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:50:11 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199607221950.VAA00711@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? To: green@fang.cs.sunyit.edu (Charles Green) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:50:10 +0200 (SAT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607221852.OAA01064@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "Charles Green" at Jul 22, 96 02:52:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Charles Green wrote: > > Robert Nordier stands accused of saying: > } Date: Jul 22, 20:08 > } Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? > } Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > } > > } > I think Robert Nordier is working on a complete re-write, actually. > } > How's that going, Robert? > } > > } > Jordan > } > > } > } The FAT fs primitives are done and tested and I'm currently working > } on VFAT support. > } > } Microsoft is shortly to be introducing a FAT32 filesystem to Windows > } 95 which will increase maximum filesystem size from 2 (or 4, for > } NT) gigabytes to 2 terabytes. The new filesystem makes use of > } 32-bit (as opposed to 12-bit and 16-bit) FAT entries and will > } require a fundamentally different handling of boot record, FATs, > } and root directory, so I'm busy on provision for this also. > } > } The changes required for FAT32 support would probably be rather > } difficult to graft onto the msdosfs at this stage: possibly another > } factor supporting the decision to re-implement DOS/Win filesystem > } support on FreeBSD. > } > } FAT32 is supposedly due for public release in the fall. I'm > } currently working towards a similar release date for the new > } filesystem. > } > } -- > } Robert Nordier > }-- End of excerpt from Robert Nordier > > > > How soon will we see the integration of at least the FAT fs support > into -current? I wasn't actually planning to release FAT fs-only support separately, since FAT32 support, in particular, requires a fundamentally different, mostly more flexible, approach at a number of levels; and I'd rather have it there at the start. I don't think there's very much deep interest, among most FreeBSD hackers, in the unsavory technical details of DOS/Win filesystems. So it seems to make most sense to release the vfatfs as functionally complete as possible, rather than as work in progress. Anyway, that's how I've been looking at it. -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 13:03:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02446 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macbeth.ienet.com (macbeth.ienet.com [207.78.32.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02437 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brutus.ienet.com (brutus.ienet.com [207.78.32.152]) by macbeth.ienet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18970; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31F3DF4F.68DE@ienet.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:06:39 -0700 From: Terry Lee Organization: Internet Express Network, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kent Hamilton CC: Pius Fischer , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bizarre network problem References: <199607210811.DAA06206@gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kent Hamilton wrote: > > Just FYI I'm seeing the exact same problem on one of my machines > at work. The box is a P100 2.1-STABLE, with two Intel EtherExpress > Pro 100B cards, on fxp0 and fpx1. Our problem turned out to have nothing to do with FreeBSD. The problems turned out to be improper address table aging. Our LinkSwitch was expiring MAC addresses in 15 minutes, but our router ARP cache entries were set expire in 4 hours. Setting the router ARP cache expiration to <= the switch expiration fixed the problem. These switching hubs can be kind of tricky. > > We've been experiencing a strange network problem with a machine > > running FreeBSD 2.1-stable. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Here's out setup: > > > > ---------------------- > > | portia.ienet.com | ---------------------- ------------------- > > | Pentium 166 MHz |----|3Com LinkSwitch 1000|--|gate.ienet.com |--> UUNet > > | FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE | ---------------------- |Cisco 2500 series| > > ---------------------- ------------------- > > > > So, we've got a Cisco connecting us to the Internet via a T-1. The > > Cisco connects to our Ethernet hub (the LinkSwitch) via 10 Mb/s Ethernet > > and the LinkSwitch connects to the host portia via 100 Mb/s Ethernet. > > > > We've also got a few other hosts connected to the LinkSwitch. > > > > The problem is that every once in a while packets coming from the outside > > (coming in through our Cisco) don't make it to portia. This happens usually > > whenever there is little network traffic to portia for a period of time. > > traceroutes from the outside will get to the Cisco but not to portia. > > > > We put the Cisco into debugging mode (with 'debug ip packet') and it > > appears to correctly forward the packets to portia, but a tcpdump process > > running on portia never showed us any of those packets. > > > > This problem never occurs with packets sent from any of the other hosts > > connected to the Ethernet hub. In fact, if I ping or telnet to portia from > > one of these local hosts, portia appears to magically wake up and process > > all packets correctly. > > > > And if I'm on portia's console and do an 'arp -a', normally I get a quick > > response and see the arp cache. However, if this problem is happening, then > > doing an 'arp -a' takes about 3 or 4 seconds before showing me the cache > > and, again, portia wakes up and all packets are received and replied to. > > > > It appears that at the time the problem is happening, the arp cache entry > > for the Cisco is incomplete, but that is probably just because it expired > > and so shouldn't portia just reissue an arp query? Well, I guess it wouldn't > > if it's not receiving anything to prompt the query. > > > > So the question is, is this a problem with the kernel or with our LinkSwitch > > or with something else? What does 'arp -a' do that could cause the kernel to > > wake up? It never fails to receive local packets like RIP updates every 30 > > seconds and broadcast ARP queries, etc., but those, unlike the ping or telnet > > don't cause it to wake up to remote traffic. > > > > portia uses an Intel EtherExpress PRO/100 LAN Adapter and the fxp0 device > > driver. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Pius > > > > -- > Kent Hamilton Play: KentH@HNS.St-Louis.MO.US > NIC Handle: KH91 URL: http://www.icon-stl.net/~khamilto/ > Blessed Be.... Work: KHamilton@Hunter.COM -- Terry Lee Technical Director mailto:terryl@ienet.com I N T E R N E T D E S I G N G R O U P 213.488.6100 fax.488.6101 A Division of INTERNET EXPRESS NETWORK, INC http://www.mall.net From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 13:13:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03255 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (root@linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03246 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uni4nn.iaf.nl (root@uni4nn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.33]) by linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA09829 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:15:25 +0200 Received: by uni4nn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA10222 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:15:05 +0200 Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA26473 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:50:26 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA02221 for FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:47:50 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199607221947.VAA02221@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands Subject: using mailertables with uucp To: FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers list) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:47:50 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there This might be a bit inappropriate for -hackers, I'll take it offline when I get responses: I want to built: Internet ----- .......... mailhub has Internet connectivity. The .... is an dialup (once every few days) PPP link. dontpanic uses UUCP over TCP/IP to get the mail from mailhub (dontpanic has an changing IP address from the ISP). My idea was to the following to do incoming mail: have a mailertable on mailhub that sez: .tcja.nl uucp-dom:dontpanic Then mailhub would uucp queue all mail, waiting for dontpanic to dialin and grab things using uucp. I built this idea (short of the Internet link to mailhub) at home. But for some reason mailhub does not seem to understand that it should do a uucp queue when it receives mail for .tcja.nl: bash# mailq Mail Queue (1 request) --Q-ID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------ VAA00735 12 Mon Jul 22 21:26 wilko (Deferred: Name server: blurk.tcja.nl: host name lookup failu) root@blurk.tcja.nl I can understand that sendmail cannot deliver when DNS is not up, but I expected it not to bother with DNS and just dump the received mail into the uucp queue. Below is the .mc file, some comments indicated with !!! bash# cat mailhub.mc include(`../m4/cf.m4') VERSIONID(`mailhub_tcja.mc (wilko) 22/7/1996')dnl OSTYPE(bsd4.4) FEATURE(nodns)dnl !!! tried this, but no difference !!! # !!! ORDER is important !!! MAILER(local) MAILER(smtp) MAILER(uucp) FEATURE(always_add_domain) # need a mailertable to get the mail to dontpanic FEATURE(mailertable, `dbm -o /usr/local/etc/mailertable.db') define(`confCOPY_ERRORS_TO', `Postmaster')dnl # for new sendmail on FreeBSD 2.0 #define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,noreceipts')dnl define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn')dnl # 14 day timeout before returning to sender define(`confMESSAGE_TIMEOUT', `14d')dnl Insights are appreciated. I did some rtfm on the O'Reilly Sendmail book but mailertables are just very briefly described Thanks Wilko _ ____________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 13:27:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04496 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Sisyphos (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04485 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-5.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos with SMTP id AA19488 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:26:55 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA03971; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:26:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:26:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607222026.WAA03971@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> From: Stefan Esser To: Peter Hawkins Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: PCI driver In-Reply-To: <199607201618.CAA25065@palin.cc.monash.edu.au> References: <199607201618.CAA25065@palin.cc.monash.edu.au> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Hawkins writes: > I am looking to port the cyclom driver cy to PCI - has anyone got any > tips they can send me on porting a driver from ISA to PCI generally? > Is there any documentation you can recommend? Hi! I'm the maintainer of the PCI code, and I do of course know how to port a driver to PCI. And though I had thought about writing down the necessary steps, I just didn't have the time, yet. You have to get rid of all references to the isa_device struct. The interrupt handler has got a different parameter (generally a pointer to some parameter block for the device instance that issued the interrupt, while ISA device interrupt handlers are called with a unit number). And of course you have to recognize the device in the PCI probe phase and to write the attach code, which will take care of mapping the device's registers to VM (for a memory mapped device, the prefered method for PCI devices, since not all PCI systems support the concept of I/O ports) and of registering the interrupt handler. An example of how this is done is the NE2000 driver, which I recently modified for PCI (/sys/i386/isa/if_ed.c + /sys/pci/if_ed_p.c). Just use a context diff between the pre-PCI version and the current version to see the changes to the existing ISA code and study the if_ed_p.c file for a simple example of the attach code. I haven't looked into this in detail, but I guess that converting the Cyclom driver is only a matter of half an hour ... Let me know if you have got further questions. Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 14:16:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10137 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.altadena.net (ns.altadena.net [206.126.128.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10126; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ns.altadena.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uiSL4-0003ggC; Mon, 22 Jul 96 14:16 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 14:16 PDT From: pete@ns.altadena.net (Pete Carah) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kerberized/encrypted rlogins - 2.1.5 incompatible with everything else? In-Reply-To: Organization: Interworld Communications Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you write: > >In article you write: >> >>I just upgraded two 2.1 machines to 2.1.5 yesterday, and now when I try to >>login to them from my FreeBSD 2.1 workstation via kerberos-encrypted >>rlogin sessions, I get gibberish! Non-encrypted kerberos rlogin sessions >>work fine between 2.1 and 2.1.5 systems, but encrypted sessions, my >>prefered method, do not work in either direction between 2.1.5 and >>anything other system. ldd of rlogin and rlogind on the 2.1.5 systems >>show: > >>/usr/bin/rlogin: >> -lcom_err.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 (0x8034000) >> -lkrb.2 => /usr/lib/libkrb.so.2.1 (0x801e000) >> -ldes.2 => /usr/lib/libdes.so.2.1 (0x8043000) >> -lc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.so.2.2 (0x804f000) >>/usr/libexec/rlogind: >> -lutil.2 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1 (0x801d000) >> -lcom_err.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 (0x8018000) >> -lkrb.2 => /usr/lib/libkrb.so.2.1 (0x802c000) >> -ldes.2 => /usr/lib/libdes.so.2.1 (0x8042000) >> -lc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.so.2.2 (0x804e000) > >>Very strange... I see no significant difference in the rlogind code, so I >>guess I'll have to dig into libdes :-( Any thoughts? > >Well, I just rebuilt all of eBones without the rest of secure with no >effect (of course the bug could be in the source so that wouldn't matter). > >Could be a missing/extra 'endian' indication somewhere but somehow I don't >think so or the logins shouldn't work either... > >I sent a note to Jordan the night after the release which he supposedly >forwarded to someone but haven't heard anything back. This is a pain >since that has never gotten broken before and I use it heavily. At >least I've only installed one machine so far. >When I get time :-) I'll cdiff the last snap (which worked) from the release >sources (at least if I haven't nuked the last snap's source from where it >was...). Hope there is time to get this into the CD; probably not :-( !!!Fixed!!! - CVS to the rescue. It seems that des_rw.c was one of the few places in eBones which changed; des_set_key changed to des_set_key_krb to avoid a library conflict with libdes. The invocations of that routine in rlogin and rlogind didn't get changed. Just adding _krb to both of those and remaking (remember if you aren't doing a make world to define MAKE_EBONES while doing the rlogin and rlogind makes) make it all work. This change probably is needed in the secure telnet too but I've never seen that work so don't know... I'll come up with a cdiff here: *** rlogin.c.old Mon Jul 22 14:13:01 1996 --- rlogin.c Mon Jul 22 13:53:01 1996 *************** *** 301,307 **** if (doencrypt) { rem = krcmd_mutual(&host, sp->s_port, user, term, 0, dest_realm, &cred, schedule); ! des_set_key(cred.session, schedule); } else #endif /* CRYPT */ rem = krcmd(&host, sp->s_port, user, term, 0, --- 301,307 ---- if (doencrypt) { rem = krcmd_mutual(&host, sp->s_port, user, term, 0, dest_realm, &cred, schedule); ! des_set_key_krb(cred.session, schedule); } else #endif /* CRYPT */ rem = krcmd(&host, sp->s_port, user, term, 0, *** rlogind.c.old Mon Jul 22 14:13:53 1996 --- rlogind.c Mon Jul 22 13:54:01 1996 *************** *** 681,687 **** ticket, "rcmd", instance, dest, &faddr, kdata, "", schedule, version); ! des_set_key(kdata->session, schedule); } else #endif --- 681,687 ---- ticket, "rcmd", instance, dest, &faddr, kdata, "", schedule, version); ! des_set_key_krb(kdata->session, schedule); } else #endif ------------------------------------------------------------------ If I can figure out how, I'll post this to the bugs list (need to learn the gnats system :-) -- Pete From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 14:43:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13024 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12981 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA19878; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:43:10 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA05925; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:43:09 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA05617; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:34:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607222034.WAA05617@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: using mailertables with uucp To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:34:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607221947.VAA02221@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Jul 22, 96 09:47:50 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Wilko Bulte wrote: > My idea was to the following to do incoming mail: have a mailertable > on mailhub that sez: > > .tcja.nl uucp-dom:dontpanic Should work fine. > bash# mailq > Mail Queue (1 request) > --Q-ID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------ > VAA00735 12 Mon Jul 22 21:26 wilko > (Deferred: Name server: blurk.tcja.nl: host name lookup > failu) > root@blurk.tcja.nl Common mistake. ;-) You still need an MX record for blurk.tcja.nl (pointing to mailhub.tcja.nl). If you don't want this, you have to turn off name canonicalization. > FEATURE(nodns)dnl > !!! tried this, but no difference !!! Right. FEATURE(nocanonify) is the trick. I would prefer the MXes however. This works fine, *.sax.de does it this way (though we offer both, ``classic'' UUCP and UUCP over TCP). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 14:43:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13109 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13038 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA19909; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:43:22 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA05934; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:43:22 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA06637; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:57:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607222057.WAA06637@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Tape drive Help To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:57:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: green@aries.isf.rl.af.mil (Charles Kenneth Green - PRC) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607221638.MAA17566@aries.isf.rl.af.mil> from Charles Kenneth Green - PRC at "Jul 22, 96 12:38:54 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Charles Kenneth Green - PRC wrote: > At present, if I use dump to backup my system I am > unable to restore the dump on my freebsd system. Restore Reports > "tape read error: Input/output error". However, if What does your syslog tell about the reason of these errors? (Have a look into /var/log/messages.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 15:37:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA17266 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17261 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04334; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607222237.PAA04334@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Sonia Sachs Subject: Re: patch for 2.1.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:29:23 PDT." <199607222229.PAA25374@george.lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:37:44 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Say whats the scoop on the ep driver and ip multicast for 2.1? Would it be easier to just upgrade to 2.2? Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Sonia Sachs : > > Hi Amancio, > > I just installed sdr/vic/vat that I downloaded from your > page: thank you! > > I tried to run sdr, but I ran into a problem: > setsockopt - IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP: Can't assign requested address > Network is unreachable > setsockopt - IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP: Can't assign requested address > I don't know what this problem is, so I am looking everywhere > for some clue. > I found a note in your page about the fact that some ethernet > cards do not support multicast. I just checked mine (it is a 3C, I am > not sure if it is 509), and it gives me: > ep0: flags=4863 mtu 1500 > inet 131.243.48.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 131.243.48.255 > so, it doesn't appear that multicast is supported. > > Can you tell me where the patch for the ep driver is so that > multicast will be supported? I am novice at freebsd, so I > would appreciate if you gave all information possible on > how to install the patch. > > Thank you very much, > > Sonia From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 16:39:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA20985 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20978; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA02077; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:39:12 -0700 (PDT) To: pete@ns.altadena.net (Pete Carah) cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kerberized/encrypted rlogins - 2.1.5 incompatible with everything else? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:16:00 PDT." Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:39:12 -0700 Message-ID: <2075.838078752@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hope there is time to get this into the CD; probably not :-( It went to replication almost a week ago. Definitely not! :( Jordan From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 17:45:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA25172 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scruz.net (nic.scruz.net [165.227.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25165 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osprey.grizzly.com by scruz.net (8.7.3/1.34) id RAA28609; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from markd@localhost) by osprey.grizzly.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05933; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607230026.RAA05933@osprey.grizzly.com> From: Mark Diekhans To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, Wilko Bulte CC: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, wilko@yedi.iaf.nl In-reply-to: <199607222034.WAA05617@uriah.heep.sax.de> (message from J Wunsch on Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:34:07 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: using mailertables with uucp Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From: J Wunsch .. >As Wilko Bulte wrote: > >> My idea was to the following to do incoming mail: have a mailertable >> on mailhub that sez: >> >> .tcja.nl uucp-dom:dontpanic > >Should work fine. > >> bash# mailq >> Mail Queue (1 request) >> --Q-ID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------ >> VAA00735 12 Mon Jul 22 21:26 wilko >> (Deferred: Name server: blurk.tcja.nl: host name lookup >> failu) >> root@blurk.tcja.nl > >Common mistake. ;-) > >You still need an MX record for blurk.tcja.nl (pointing to >mailhub.tcja.nl). If you don't want this, you have to turn off >name canonicalization. If your running sendmail 8.7.5 (in 2.2 SNAPs), you can avoid this by creating a file /etc/service.switch contining the line: hosts files From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 18:55:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA01489 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01482 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uiWWY-0004riC; Mon, 22 Jul 96 21:44 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27153; Mon, 22 Jul 96 21:43:38 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA11126; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:45:45 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199607230145.VAA11126@elmer.picker.com> Subject: EXT2FS fails to sync ("giving up") To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Running 2.2-960612-SNAP, if I leave a EXT2FS file system mounted (read-write or read-only), reboot doesn't get past it ("Syncing disks ... 1 1 1 1 1 ... giving up") and doesn't get around to syncing the other UFS partitions on my system (4 UFS slices). Couple questions: 1) Has this been fixed in -current? If so, any tips on hacking it into 2.2-960612-SNAP? 2) If not, any way to hook in a script to run when the system is being shut down (like /etc/rc0.d/* on SysV)? In case it's useful, here's my fstab entry: /dev/wd1s3 /linux ext2fs ro 0 0 mount /linux and umount /linux work well. Thanks, Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 19:58:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08011 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hq.icb.chel.su (icb-rich-gw.icb.chel.su [193.125.10.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08003 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (babkin@localhost) by hq.icb.chel.su (8.7.5/8.6.5) id IAA09972; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:27:33 +0600 (GMT+0600) From: "Serge A. Babkin" Message-Id: <199607230227.IAA09972@hq.icb.chel.su> Subject: Re: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX To: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:27:32 +0600 (ESD) Cc: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607221346.JAA23451@whizzo.transsys.com> from "Louis A. Mamakos" at Jul 22, 96 09:46:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > ... > > > > > > By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed > > > only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. > > > Was it a real bug or feature ? > > > > > > > It is a leftover from its XNS days. If you send me the patches for > > IPX, I will look it over and commit it. > > It's not a bug, but a feature. Having a single address for your > end-station make quite a few other weirdnesses in the protocol stack > and application just go away. But if you have a single address you need to set it for all Ethernet cards or they will not accept the packets with this address. The current implementation does not do this and I think that it's not a very good idea. -SB From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 21:13:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA12173 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12164 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA24684; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 00:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607230410.AAA24684@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Authentication-Warning: whizzo.transsys.com: Host localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Serge A. Babkin" cc: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za, hackers@FreeBSD.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX References: <199607230227.IAA09972@hq.icb.chel.su> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:27:32 +0600." <199607230227.IAA09972@hq.icb.chel.su> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 00:10:32 -0400 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed > > > > only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. > > > > Was it a real bug or feature ? > > > > > > > > > > It is a leftover from its XNS days. If you send me the patches for > > > IPX, I will look it over and commit it. > > > > It's not a bug, but a feature. Having a single address for your > > end-station make quite a few other weirdnesses in the protocol stack > > and application just go away. > > But if you have a single address you need to set it for all > Ethernet cards or they will not accept the packets with this > address. The current implementation does not do this and I > think that it's not a very good idea. Sure, it's true that the current drivers do not allow the MAC address to be set on the various LAN interfaces, but this would argue for fixing the device drivers, and not the protocol design. While you may believe that the single address per IPX host is an error, it is fundamental to the protocol's design. I wouldn't characterize changing this as "fixing" it, unless it's the same way a veteranarian "fixes" something. louie From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 21:32:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA12983 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walkabout.asstdc.com.au (root@walkabout.asstdc.com.au [202.12.127.73]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12974 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from imb@localhost) by walkabout.asstdc.com.au (8.7.5/BSD4.4) id OAA00208 Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:31:52 +1000 (EST) From: michael butler Message-Id: <199607230431.OAA00208@walkabout.asstdc.com.au> Subject: Re: patch for 2.1.0 To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:31:52 +1000 (EST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, ssachs@george.lbl.gov In-Reply-To: <199607222237.PAA04334@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jul 22, 96 03:37:44 pm" X-Comment: Phone 0419-240-180, International +61-419-240-180 X-Comment: finger imb@asstdc.com.au for PGP public key X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Say whats the scoop on the ep driver and ip multicast for 2.1? 2.1.5 has this (and many other things) fixed :-) > Would it be easier to just upgrade to 2.2? If "mission-critical", no .. if to be used as a system to teach, probably not (2.1.5 + kerberos-related patch is sufficient for most). If to be used by people who know the difference between their own programming errors and problems with the distributed utilities and/or kernel .. use -current *and* subscribe to the current mailing list. Also note that, unless you *really* know what you're doing, "backing out" an upgrade to -current usually requires: i) a tape drive and ii) a backup of what it was before .. :-) .. or a re-install. Hope this helps, michael From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 21:44:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA13652 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hq.icb.chel.su (icb-rich-gw.icb.chel.su [193.125.10.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13609 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (babkin@localhost) by hq.icb.chel.su (8.7.5/8.6.5) id KAA17937; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 10:37:53 +0600 (GMT+0600) From: "Serge A. Babkin" Message-Id: <199607230437.KAA17937@hq.icb.chel.su> Subject: Re: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX To: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 10:37:52 +0600 (ESD) Cc: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607230410.AAA24684@whizzo.transsys.com> from "Louis A. Mamakos" at Jul 23, 96 00:10:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed > > > > > only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. > > > > > Was it a real bug or feature ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a leftover from its XNS days. If you send me the patches for > > > > IPX, I will look it over and commit it. > > > > > > It's not a bug, but a feature. Having a single address for your > > > end-station make quite a few other weirdnesses in the protocol stack > > > and application just go away. > > > > But if you have a single address you need to set it for all > > Ethernet cards or they will not accept the packets with this > > address. The current implementation does not do this and I > > think that it's not a very good idea. > > Sure, it's true that the current drivers do not allow the MAC address > to be set on the various LAN interfaces, but this would argue for > fixing the device drivers, and not the protocol design. I'm not shure that the ability to change the MAC address accidentally is good. For example if you configure an interface for IP and then for IPX you'll get lots of troubles if it sent any ARP response with the old MAC address. > While you may believe that the single address per IPX host is an > error, it is fundamental to the protocol's design. I wouldn't Nope. Netware (the "native" protocol implementattion) has different MAC addresses on different interfaces. Or did you meant the FreeBSD implementation ? > characterize changing this as "fixing" it, unless it's the same way a > veteranarian "fixes" something. IMHO it _must_ be fixed in any of two ways: by allowing several addresses or by setting the MAC addresses of cards. But in its current state it just doesn't allow to have more than one IPX interface. -SB From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 22:59:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA17902 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17897 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fakir.india.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA191991563; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:59:28 -0700 Received: from localhost by fakir.india.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA219931682; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:31:22 +0530 Message-Id: <199607230601.AA219931682@fakir.india.hp.com> To: gid@inferno.cs.bris.ac.uk Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP PCI 10/100VG Card ??? Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:31:21 +0530 From: A JOSEPH KOSHY Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [from a question on comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc]: gid> Also, we've got a nice HP 100Mbit hub lying unused, as the server's gid> still only 10 Mbit/s... :( gid> I'd really appreciate an e-mail telling me that it isn't supported, or gid> even better, one saying it is.. :) If this is the HPJ2585A (10/100VG) card, I believe its not supported at the moment in FreeBSD. I was planning to hack up a driver though. Would you be willing to be a beta tester? I don't have access to a 100Mbit network here. I can't promise any dates, (I'm doing this in my free time) so all I'd say is hang on to the cards :-). Koshy (Speaking only for myself.) From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 23:19:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA18794 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18789 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA03281 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:19:21 -0700 (PDT) To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Has anyone been archiving comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.* ? Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:19:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3279.838102761@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for as much of these newsgroups' history as I can find, and our own feed only goes back a month or so. If you've got a more complete archive, I'd appreciate access to it. This is for the FreeBSD docs CD. Thanks! Jordan From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 23:25:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19092 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA19083 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA17649; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:33:03 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607230433.GAA17649@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX To: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:33:03 +0200 (SAT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607230410.AAA24684@whizzo.transsys.com> from "Louis A. Mamakos" at "Jul 23, 96 00:10:32 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed > > > > > only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. > > > > > Was it a real bug or feature ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a leftover from its XNS days. If you send me the patches for > > > > IPX, I will look it over and commit it. > > > > > > It's not a bug, but a feature. Having a single address for your > > > end-station make quite a few other weirdnesses in the protocol stack > > > and application just go away. > > > > But if you have a single address you need to set it for all > > Ethernet cards or they will not accept the packets with this > > address. The current implementation does not do this and I > > think that it's not a very good idea. > > Sure, it's true that the current drivers do not allow the MAC address > to be set on the various LAN interfaces, but this would argue for > fixing the device drivers, and not the protocol design. > > While you may believe that the single address per IPX host is an > error, it is fundamental to the protocol's design. I wouldn't > characterize changing this as "fixing" it, unless it's the same way a > veteranarian "fixes" something. > Why do you say that it is "fundamental to the protocol's design"? Novell have never used it like that. All their routers and servers use the original MAC address of the card for its IPX address on that interface. Netware servers from 3.0 onwards do have a sepperate internal network, but that did not change how the external interfaces' addresses are used. I do think it is an problem if not an error because it is very confusing if you debug a network or do something like snmp management and all the interfaces of a router have the same MAC address. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 22 23:35:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19532 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA19526 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01761; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607230635.XAA01761@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Has anyone been archiving comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.* ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:19:21 PDT." <3279.838102761@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:35:02 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doesn't Minnie in Australia do this already? Just do a netscape search on minnie. Enjoy, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > I'm looking for as much of these newsgroups' history as I can find, > and our own feed only goes back a month or so. If you've got a more > complete archive, I'd appreciate access to it. This is for the > FreeBSD docs CD. Thanks! > > Jordan > From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 00:32:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA22905 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 00:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22895 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 00:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA25385; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:25:18 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:25:16 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: Amancio Hasty cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Has anyone been archiving comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.* ? In-Reply-To: <199607230635.XAA01761@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ftp minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (131.236.21.160) /BSD/bsdnews On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Doesn't Minnie in Australia do this already? > > Just do a netscape search on minnie. > > Enjoy, > Amancio > > >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > I'm looking for as much of these newsgroups' history as I can find, > > and our own feed only goes back a month or so. If you've got a more > > complete archive, I'd appreciate access to it. This is for the > > FreeBSD docs CD. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 01:50:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA28750 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA28744 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by teil.soft.net via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for hackers@FreeBSD.org id AA12593; Tue, 23 Jul 96 14:19:14 -0800 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:19:05 -0800 (PST) From: "K.V.S. Sankaram" To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Shared Memory problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I create a shared memory(using shmget()) with a particular key number and try to create the same shared memory, this time with the IPC_EXCL flag ORed with IPC_CREAT, the FREEBSD system *is not* giving the EEXIST error. Any takers ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- | K.V.S. Sankaram | CORPORATE OFFICE : | D&D CENTRE : | | Sr. Engr.(D&D) | | | | Tata Elxsi(India) Ltd. | 123, Richmond Road | Hoody, | | | Bangalore -- 560025 | Whitefield Road | | Tel: 8452016, 8452017, | | Mahadevapura Post | | 8452185 | Tel: | Bangalore -- 560048 | | Extn: 223 | 5563945, 5564872 | | | | 563956, 564835 | Fax: 8452019 | | e-mail: | | | | kasturi@teil.soft.net | Fax: 5583168 | | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 01:53:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA28976 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA28954 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by teil.soft.net via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for hackers@FreeBSD.org id AA12857; Tue, 23 Jul 96 14:21:51 -0800 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:21:50 -0800 (PST) From: "K.V.S. Sankaram" To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to use BPF ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am facing problems in sending packets through BPF. Can anybody give me some idea (or steps) as to how to configure BPF and send packets through it ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- | K.V.S. Sankaram | CORPORATE OFFICE : | D&D CENTRE : | | Sr. Engr.(D&D) | | | | Tata Elxsi(India) Ltd. | 123, Richmond Road | Hoody, | | | Bangalore -- 560025 | Whitefield Road | | Tel: 8452016, 8452017, | | Mahadevapura Post | | 8452185 | Tel: | Bangalore -- 560048 | | Extn: 223 | 5563945, 5564872 | | | | 563956, 564835 | Fax: 8452019 | | e-mail: | | | | kasturi@teil.soft.net | Fax: 5583168 | | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 02:07:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA29916 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clipper.cs.kiev.ua (root@cs-demon-64k.cs.kiev.ua [193.124.48.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA29906 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dog by clipper.cs.kiev.ua with uucp id m0uidNZ-0004zOC; Tue, 23 Jul 96 12:03 WET DST Received: (from dk@localhost) by dog.farm.org (8.7.5/dk#3) id EAA03102; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 04:50:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Message-Id: <199607230850.EAA03102@dog.farm.org> Subject: lp booting: first cut To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 04:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: dk+@ua.net X-Class: Fast X-OS-Of-Choice: FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP X-NIC-Handle: DK379 X-Pager-Email: dk@interpage.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi folks, I have finally managed to ping(1) my little DTR-1 notebook booted diskless over printer cable. I attach patches for files in /sys/i386/boot/netboot/ directory: lp.c new file, all of printer port booting code main.c little changes for lp.c (point-to-point interface and fake ARP) Makefile addition of lp.com target The problem when booting over point-to-point link is that you cannot reach your gateway unless it is the other end of interface. Since bootp does not have a way to specify that, I have decided on the following convention (or hack): the subnet mask of all ones (0xffffffff) means p2p link, and the gateway means the peer address. Also, a fake MAC address is necessary to fool the bootp server. A copy of my /etc/bootptab: # /etc/bootptab - bootpd(8) config file .default:\ :hn:td=/r/boot:\ :ds=ns: # lpip magic: ha,gw,sm,vm(for sm) cat:tc=.default:ha=000000.002a00:vm=rfc1084:\ :gw=193.124.48.197:sm=255.255.255.255: the vm= is necessary for sm= to work (took me another hour to figure out), and the ha= is just a magic address for printer interface. 2a is 42 decimal. I cannot see a method to boot 2 boxes from one machine this way. ;-( I have found that the kernel (and lp.c's) parameters like -DLPMAXSPIN1=50000 -DLPMAXSPIN2=5000 are proven to be critical in getting the thing to work. I am running 2.2-960501-SNAP now (installed from a snapshot CD). I have ftp'ed netboot/ from ftp.freebsd.org today and found very little changes, which I have merged with my patches, so I should go clean. my host box (dog.farm.org) is 486-DX80, 16M RAM, and the client machine is DTR-1, a Cyrix 486SLC (8 or 25MHz selectable), with 6Megs of RAM. I found that 8 MHz gives me more network bandwidth - I cannot understand why. unfortunately, the kernel cannot proceed to single-user (all it says is `NFS SWAP:' and `NFS ROOT:' lines). I am trying to figure what's wrong now. Previously, I had error 65 (no route to host) in nfs/nfs_vfsops.c, but I have fixed that by adding explicit gateway. Please test these changes, as I am not sure what caused my client box stop booting - maybe it is just some cyrix/APM/other weirdness. I am running kernel with only sc0, ed0, sio0, sio1, lpt0, pca0, fdc0, npx0 compiled in, and tried to disable (-c) everything but sc0, lpt0 and npx0. I have not enabled any of CYRIX cache kernel options. I am using standard FPU emulator. thank you, Dmitry. the patches (23K, mostly just new lp.c) are available at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/netboot-lp-1.0-patch please note that changes to main.c include some debugging printf's which can be safely removed, and changes to CFLAGS in Makefile should be reviewed. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 02:23:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01081 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inferno.cs.bris.ac.uk (root@inferno.cs.bris.ac.uk [137.222.102.176]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01076 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gid@localhost) by inferno.cs.bris.ac.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19433; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 10:20:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 10:20:33 +0100 (BST) From: Gid To: A JOSEPH KOSHY cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP PCI 10/100VG Card ??? In-Reply-To: <199607230601.AA219931682@fakir.india.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > [from a question on comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc]: > > gid> Also, we've got a nice HP 100Mbit hub lying unused, as the server's > gid> still only 10 Mbit/s... :( > gid> I'd really appreciate an e-mail telling me that it isn't supported, or > gid> even better, one saying it is.. :) > > If this is the HPJ2585A (10/100VG) card, I believe its not supported at > the moment in FreeBSD. > > I was planning to hack up a driver though. Would you be willing to be > a beta tester? I don't have access to a 100Mbit network here. > > I can't promise any dates, (I'm doing this in my free time) so all > I'd say is hang on to the cards :-). Unfortunately, we can't commit to using the 100Mbit hub until we can be sure it'll work with the server on it. However, we may be able to set up a few machines on the hub if I have a reasonable amount of confidence in the drivers.. :) I have noticed that there is a driver for this card (or at least, this chipset) available in alpha for Linux. Any hope of porting it? (I have not got the knowledge to undertake such a task myself.. I'm only a games writer!) I'd hate to have to drop down to Linux just because of some stupid net driver... :( Cheers, Gid _____________________________________________________________________________ /~` ( Tom Gidden Gid's Games: _the_ internet games site (_,~(| Office: +44 (0) 117 954 5105 E-mail: gid@gids-games.com ' Mobile: +44 (0) 976 690 578 WWW: http://www.gids-games.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 02:31:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01532 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA01512; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA24449; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 18:08:47 +1000 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 18:08:47 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607230808.SAA24449@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: pst@shockwave.com, rnordier@iafrica.com Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >myself. However, the most serious FreeBSD msdosfs problem (where >it causes corruption to other partitions) apparently needs a >64-cluster FIPS-ed FAT filesystem with an EIDE controller translating >to 64 heads, 63 sectors to be readily reproducible. (At least, I >haven't reproduced it on any other 64-cluster filesystems.) I think you're saying that it is a hardware problem :-). Bruce From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 02:33:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01730 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from julian@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01679; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:33:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607230933.CAA01679@freefall.freebsd.org> To: current, hackers Subject: anyone have a clue on this bug? Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It's bitten us several times on recent -current machines.. due to some problem, a system dies.. (bad h/w or whatever..) on reboot it is discovered that some the files that were open at the time of the reboot have been deleted by fsck (i.e. they had 0 references or something) it's particulary annoying when it deletes the console or some other useful device.. I've mainly seen it with devices, but I think I have also seen directories mutating into devices and files doing other odd things.. this is all with a 3 week old -current.. I will be upgrading the systems in the next day or so.. so if it's known but fixed.. I'll get it then.. julian From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 02:33:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01829 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA01775 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA23165; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:15:35 +1000 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:15:35 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607230715.RAA23165@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: peter@palin.cc.monash.edu.au, se@zpr.uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: PCI driver Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Just use a context diff between the pre-PCI >version and the current version to see the >changes to the existing ISA code and study >the if_ed_p.c file for a simple example of >the attach code. >I haven't looked into this in detail, but I >guess that converting the Cyclom driver is >only a matter of half an hour ... In the Linux Cyclades driver, the PCI versions seems to use a different i/o mapping. 8-bit hardware registers are memory mapped to 16-bit boundaries for ISA and to 32-bit boundaries for PCI and the conversions for this are done at runtime by shifting by 1 or 2. In the FreeBSD ISA driver, the conversions are done at compile time by always shifting by 1. Thus the FreeBSD PCI version probably can't simply call the ISA version. It needs to make the conversion dynamic (and slower) or arrange for the PCI version to be a different driver. The latter is the best way but it is harder to configure (the standard driver must be compiled twice with slightly different i/o macros to give different objects...). Bruce From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 02:36:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA02170 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA02158 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA20581; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:43:02 +1000 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:43:02 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607230543.PAA20581@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hackers@freebsd.org, rhh@ct.picker.com Subject: Re: EXT2FS fails to sync ("giving up") Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Running 2.2-960612-SNAP, if I leave a EXT2FS file system mounted >(read-write or read-only), reboot doesn't get past it ("Syncing disks ... 1 >1 1 1 1 ... giving up") and doesn't get around to syncing the other UFS >partitions on my system (4 UFS slices). Couple questions: Other file systems get synced (otherwise there would be more than 1 dirty block) but their clean flag doesn't get set (so they get checked on reboot, and checking takes too long). > 1) Has this been fixed in -current? If so, any tips on hacking it > into 2.2-960612-SNAP? No, it's still broken. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 02:54:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA03380 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.philips.nl (ns.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA03374 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 02:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) id LAA23957 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:54:06 +0200 Received: from unknown(192.26.173.32) by ns.philips.nl via smap (V1.3+ESMTP) with ESMTP id sma023935; Tue Jul 23 11:53:39 1996 Received: from aonc01.nym.sc.philips.com (aonc01.nym.sc.philips.com [130.144.70.193]) by smtp.nl.cis.philips.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-0.9z-02May95) with ESMTP id LAA27494 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:56:02 +0200 Received: from NLNMG01.nym.sc.philips.com (nlnmg01 [130.144.80.6]) by aonc01.nym.sc.philips.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-0.993a-08Jan96) with ESMTP id LAA03400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:51:57 +0200 Received: from NLNMG01/MAILQUEUE by NLNMG01.nym.sc.philips.com (Mercury 1.21); 23 Jul 96 11:54:37 +0100 Received: from MAILQUEUE by NLNMG01 (Mercury 1.21); 23 Jul 96 11:54:37 +0100 From: "Kees Jan Koster" Organization: Philips Semiconductors Nijmegen To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:54:28 GMT+0100 Subject: Re: SOYO SY-30F2 blues Reply-to: Kees.Koster@nym.sc.philips.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <4605EF72A8A@NLNMG01.nym.sc.philips.com> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Datum verzending: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:09:52 +0200 (MET DST) > Van: Stefan Esser > Aan: Kees.Koster@aonc01.nym.sc.philips.com > Onderwerp: Re: SOYO SY-30F2 blues > Kees Jan Koster writes: > > > > > Do you happen to have an ftp pointer? I have very limited internet > > access, sorry. My motherboard is a SOYO SY-30F2 with an Award Modular > > bios v4.50G. > > Sorry, no. I have no idea whether Soyo offers new > BIOS versions from an FTP server. ASUS does, and > AFAIK Tyan as well. It would be interesting to have > a list of vendors with their BIOS upgrade policy in > the FreeBSD handbook, I guess. > Hmm. I'll pester my shop into telling me. > > > > Sorry, but there is hardly any generic way to solve > > > your problem in a device driver. I can send you a > > > fix, which will modify the NCR address to any value > > > you choose, but you will have to compile that address > > > into your kernel, which precludes its use on other > > > FreeBSD systems. (Ok. I can make it dependent on the > > > specific characteristics of your system, but there > > > will never be an official version that includes that > > > patch.) > > > > > Yes please, that patch would be extremely welcome. I tried to hack > > the kernel to do that, but I found I don't know enough about the pci > > handling stuff to do so. > > Ok. I'll prepare it for you, but it will take some > time to get it done. Sorry, but I have very little > spare time, currently. > Want some of mine? Thanks for your trouble. I'm sort of planning to get me a nice 2.1.5 cdrom anyway, so I'll add your patch then. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 05:11:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA09836 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (h196-7-192-139.iafrica.com [196.7.192.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA09813; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00292; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:45:26 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199607231145.NAA00292@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:45:25 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607230808.SAA24449@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Jul 23, 96 06:08:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans wrote: > > >myself. However, the most serious FreeBSD msdosfs problem (where > >it causes corruption to other partitions) apparently needs a > >64-cluster FIPS-ed FAT filesystem with an EIDE controller translating > >to 64 heads, 63 sectors to be readily reproducible. (At least, I > >haven't reproduced it on any other 64-cluster filesystems.) > > I think you're saying that it is a hardware problem :-). > > Bruce > Over a few months, I've been collecting drive and DOS fs parameters when users have reported corruption to *BSD partitions after accessing (mounting/reading: not necessarily writing to) their DOS filesystems using msdosfs. The details I have (from 4 users) are summarized below. Incomplete details from 2 further users also indicate /dev/wd? and 400M+ partition sizes (but I'm not sure about the 64/63 geometry). I don't currently have easy access to an IDE setup supporting more than 16 heads. Through fairly devious means, I have tried formatting various DOS filesystems _as if_ they were originally created on such as setup (and then FIPS-ed), but this doesn't reproduce the problem. DRIVE DOS START DOS END cyl head sect || cyl head sect cyl head sect size ------------------------------------------------------------------- wd0 | 525 | 64 | 63 || 0 | 1 | 1 | 126 | 63 | 63 | 512001 wd0 | 2099 | 64 | 63 || 0 | 1 | 1 | 189 | 63 | 63 | 766017 same drive || 250 | 0 | 1 | 523 | 63 | 63 | 1104768 wd0 | 788 | 64 | 63 || 0 | 1 | 1 | 787 | 63 | 63 | 3177153 wd0 | 621 | 64 | 63 || 0 | 1 | 1 | 619 | 63 | 63 | 2499777 -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 05:34:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA10697 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA10686 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by teil.soft.net (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for hackers@freebsd.org id AA25716; Tue, 23 Jul 96 18:03:41 -0800 From: rishim@teil.soft.net (Rishi Gautam) Message-Id: <9607240203.AA25716@teil.soft.net> Subject: Ned info for Host Route add To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 18:03:40 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I have a network with subnet address 192.192.10. I hooked a machine1 with IP adress 228.100.11.135. I want to add HOST route in the machine1 for the host 192.192.10.30 with LLINFO flag set, so that i can communicate to the machine 192.192.10.30. I also want to create a route in the machine 192.192.10.30 for the machine1(228,100.11.135) with the LLINFO flag set. What route command i have to use? I tried all sort of combinations, and it's seems that nothing is working. The commands i tried are for machine1 228.100.11.135 route add -host 192.192.10.30 228.100.11.135 -netmask 255.255.255.255 -interfacee error: arp_rtrequest bad gateway value. But it add the host rtentry. if we did netstat -r, it gives error "arp_resolve: can't allocate llinfo" I think it's not creting the space for the llinfo structure in the arp_rtrequest, when I am adding the route. Can anybody have any solution for this to work. I need this information badly. Regards, Rishi From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 05:39:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA10978 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA10973 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id HAA19617 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:38:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:38:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199607231238.HAA19617@plains.nodak.edu> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-hackers ATM-FR virtual interface Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk pete@sms.fi says (forwarded from freebsd-atm): > To throw my opinion into the game since I consider that I've seen most > what the boxes do today and how they are being used is that there is > different scenarios where you want to either group (group == >=1 VC's) > for a NBMA logical interface, have a point-to-point logical interface > (with broadcast capability) on a single VC or have a point-to-point or > NBMA interface with dynamically established connections. All these > should have the possibility of having multiple VC's for a single > destination with variance in QoS. Throwing LANE into the game you also > have to support logical broadcast interface with ARP. > > Unclear enough? :-) A single network session mapped into a single VC is a trend (Ipsilon licensed software with DEC, et al) to use the ATM switch as a IP switch. I think multiple IP VCs between two hosts will be very common. The original question was should: 1) each LANE/IP VC be viewed as a seperate addreable interface. If we have two paths between the same hosts, we have two adapters (atm0, atm1, etc) between the two hosts. 2) an ATM adapter be viewed as a mega-virtual IP adapter that can multiple IP/MAC address (ie., one adapter one name, no matter the LAN setup). 3) the ATM virtual IP adapter has a single IP/MAC number which is made up of all the VC that contain that local IP/MAC address. It is possible for a single ATM card could have multiple virtual IP adapters. This combines all VCs that make a emulated IP conection into a single virtual adapter. Multiple VC beween hosts will use the same virtual adapter; If you use different emulated networks for two sessions they belong to different virtual adapters eventhough they bot use the same ATM adpater. I switched my mind from option 2 to option 3. --mark. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 06:58:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA14415 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.dsu.edu (alpha.dsu.edu [138.247.32.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA14406; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by alpha.dsu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10386; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:38:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:38:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: Pete Carah cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kerberized/encrypted rlogins - 2.1.5 incompatible with everything else? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Pete Carah wrote: > !!!Fixed!!! - CVS to the rescue. It seems that des_rw.c was one of the > few places in eBones which changed; des_set_key changed to des_set_key_krb > to avoid a library conflict with libdes. The invocations of that routine > in rlogin and rlogind didn't get changed. Just adding _krb to both of > those and remaking (remember if you aren't doing a make world to define > MAKE_EBONES while doing the rlogin and rlogind makes) make it all work. rsh uses the same call, but I don't use encrypted rsh and when I try it complains "can't get entry for ekshell/tcp service", so maybe it doesn't really matter whether it gets fixed... Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 07:37:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16677 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA16669 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA12641 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:37:15 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma012638; Tue Jul 23 09:37:08 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA17980 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:37:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA25282 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:37:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607231437.JAA25282@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Bootable CD roms Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:37:09 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk howdy, I've been looking at the EL-Torito stuff for booting CDs. Phoenix has a 4 page doc that tells how to make a bootable CD from an image (http://www.ptltd.com/desktop/makecd.pdf). Has anyone successfully booted from CD or maybe have a little information on it? eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 08:07:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18866 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.Sarnoff.COM (terra.sarnoff.com [130.33.11.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18861 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rminnich@localhost) by terra.Sarnoff.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA09772; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:07:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:07:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ron G. Minnich" X-Sender: rminnich@terra To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-hackers ATM-FR virtual interface In-Reply-To: <199607231238.HAA19617@plains.nodak.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 3) the ATM virtual IP adapter has a single IP/MAC number which is made up > of all the VC that contain that local IP/MAC address. It is possible for a > single ATM card could have multiple virtual IP adapters. This combines > all VCs that make a emulated IP conection into a single virtual adapter. > Multiple VC beween hosts will use the same virtual adapter; If you > use different emulated networks for two sessions they belong to different > virtual adapters eventhough they bot use the same ATM adpater. > wish we could draw pictures in email. I'll do this for MINI. In hardware, mini looks like 4096 atm adapters. We call these virtual ATM interfaces, in the same sense that we call memory virtual memory: there's a physical artifact backing the virtual one. Thus MINI virtual interfaces are real. I'll call them VAMs, for Virtual AtM interfaces. A single VAM needs a single VC. Here are some scenarios. 1) Multiple IP connections over one VAM 2) one IP connection on one VAM 3) one IP connection that uses several VAMs, i.e. for striping. [[ see Traw@cis.upenn.edu's thesis on striping for an example of multiple ATM interfaces for one connection. How would IP handle this? ]] 4) one raw ATM connection (and one VAM) for a user program. Still calls send/recv but it's not going via IP, but direct to the ATM layer. protosw handles this quite nicely. 5) multiple VAMs per user program for striped I/O. 6) Direct-access VAM (i.e. VAM mapped into user space) either single or multiple Note that for MINI, as opposed to other direct-map interfaces, all 6 of these can exist concurrently. Can the structure you describe above acommodate it? I'm not sure what you mean by >single IP/MAC number which is made up >of all the VC that contain that local IP/MAC address Does this mean some kind of bit-field? Here's what I'm looking at now: There's one physical interface struct for each MINI physical interface (/dev/mini). add a protosw entry for PF_ATM. This will support VC creation, setup, teardown, etc. PF_INET can call this for services. Routes from the IP to the ATM layer point to the correct VAM. So we have: 1) [[ multiple IP connections per VAM, or one IP connection per VAM]] users open socket with PF_INET. The bind will use the ATM interface if the user's sockaddr hashes to an interface. A route is created to the interface, with VC, VP etc. set correctly. When the interface first starts being used an ATM connection is made to the host. 2) [[ IP connection per multiple VAMs ]] Need to define a 'VAM group' for striping. This would include a set of VAMs. Note that you need this even if you're not using MINI -- suppose you are driving four FORE cards for one IP connection? 3) [[one or more VAMs per user]] use the 'interface group' described above. 4) [[direct access to onr or more VAMs]] a) you can mmap the socket to get the VAM(s) mapped in b) send/recv/etc. are disabled for as long as the VAMs are mmap'ed. How's this? what we need are descriptors for sets of VAMs. This is a fundamental difference from IP -- in IP, one IP entity maps to one interface, not one or more. ron From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 08:14:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19341 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA19336 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp-089.etinc.com (ppp-089.etinc.com [204.141.95.148]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05935 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:21:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:21:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199607231521.LAA05935@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hackers@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: Ethernet-like loopback & IPX Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > >> > > > ... >> > > > >> > > > By the way, I have fixed the bug (in my opinion) in IPX. It allowed >> > > > only one link-level (i.e. Ethernet) address for all interfaces. >> > > > Was it a real bug or feature ? >> > > > >> > > >> > > It is a leftover from its XNS days. If you send me the patches for >> > > IPX, I will look it over and commit it. >> > >> > It's not a bug, but a feature. Having a single address for your >> > end-station make quite a few other weirdnesses in the protocol stack >> > and application just go away. >> >> But if you have a single address you need to set it for all >> Ethernet cards or they will not accept the packets with this >> address. The current implementation does not do this and I >> think that it's not a very good idea. > >Sure, it's true that the current drivers do not allow the MAC address >to be set on the various LAN interfaces, but this would argue for >fixing the device drivers, and not the protocol design. > >While you may believe that the single address per IPX host is an >error, it is fundamental to the protocol's design. I wouldn't >characterize changing this as "fixing" it, unless it's the same way a >veteranarian "fixes" something. This shouldnt be as big of an issue as everyone seems to make it out to be. IPX addresses are NET:NODE combinations, so as long as routing is implemented is shouldnt matter if the IPX level stuff from one host all uses the same node address. Obviously you have to do the MAC stuff correctly at the ethernet level...if this doesnt work then the implementation is simply defective. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 08:18:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19636 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (ip82.image.dk [194.19.141.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19625; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03894; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:16:30 +0200 (MET DST) To: dk+@ua.net cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: lp booting: first cut In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jul 1996 04:50:32 EDT." <199607230850.EAA03102@dog.farm.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:16:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3892.838134990@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607230850.EAA03102@dog.farm.org>, Dmitry Kohmanyuk writes: > >I have finally managed to ping(1) my little DTR-1 notebook >booted diskless over printer cable. COOL! I've been meaning to get to this for SOO long, but it kept sliding down my todolist. >my host box (dog.farm.org) is 486-DX80, 16M RAM, and the client machine is >DTR-1, a Cyrix 486SLC (8 or 25MHz selectable), with 6Megs of RAM. >I found that 8 MHz gives me more network bandwidth - I cannot understand why. The plip stuff depends on the speed of both cpus, it's very finiky. >unfortunately, the kernel cannot proceed to single-user (all it >says is `NFS SWAP:' and `NFS ROOT:' lines). I am trying to figure what's >wrong now. Previously, I had error 65 (no route to host) in nfs/nfs_vfsops.c, >but I have fixed that by adding explicit gateway. There is some utterly disgusting code that tries to find a ed%d interface to use in the kernel. That would be a problem. You need to explain to it that it's a lp0 interface instead in this case. The right medium for this explanation is the struct nfs_diskless (?) and since you change that you need to change the version# of it, and then locore.s to copy the right number of bytes. (Yes, I hate it too) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 08:18:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19694 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (ip82.image.dk [194.19.141.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19686; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03902; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:17:35 +0200 (MET DST) To: Robert Nordier cc: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans), current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: anyone working on upgrading the msdosfs to NetBSD levels? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 23 Jul 1996 13:45:25 +0200." <199607231145.NAA00292@eac.iafrica.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:17:35 +0200 Message-ID: <3900.838135055@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > DRIVE DOS START DOS END > cyl head sect || cyl head sect cyl head sect size >------------------------------------------------------------------- >wd0 | 525 | 64 | 63 || 0 | 1 | 1 | 126 | 63 | 63 | 512001 >wd0 | 2099 | 64 | 63 || 0 | 1 | 1 | 189 | 63 | 63 | 766017 > same drive || 250 | 0 | 1 | 523 | 63 | 63 | 1104768 >wd0 | 788 | 64 | 63 || 0 | 1 | 1 | 787 | 63 | 63 | 3177153 >wd0 | 621 | 64 | 63 || 0 | 1 | 1 | 619 | 63 | 63 | 2499777 This could be because the drives in question have a version of then "OnTrack" diskmanager that we don't recognize". -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 08:30:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20507 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20494 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA19216; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:30:41 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:30:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: changing localtime() behaviour Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How would one go about changing the behavior of localtime() so that the value for struct tm.tm_year has the thousands in the year, ala '1996' rather than just '96'? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 08:57:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22259 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22249 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by teil.soft.net (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for hackers@freebsd.org id AA28834; Tue, 23 Jul 96 21:26:55 -0800 From: rishim@teil.soft.net (Rishi Gautam) Message-Id: <9607240526.AA28834@teil.soft.net> Subject: Crash To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 21:26:55 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I tried this command in one machine of IP address 192.192.10.10 route add -host 164.164.10.11 -link 192.192.10.10: The system crashes. It crashes at ifa_ifwithroute(); Rishi From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 08:59:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22347 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tdc.on.ca (tdc.on.ca [204.92.242.39]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22342 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from martin@localhost) by tdc.on.ca (8.7.5/8.6.6) id LAA28863; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:54:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Martin Renters Message-Id: <199607231554.LAA28863@tdc.on.ca> Subject: Re: lp booting: first cut To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:54:16 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dk+@ua.net, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3892.838134990@critter.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Jul 23, 96 05:16:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There is some utterly disgusting code that tries to find a ed%d interface > to use in the kernel. That would be a problem. You need to explain > to it that it's a lp0 interface instead in this case. The right medium > for this explanation is the struct nfs_diskless (?) and since you change > that you need to change the version# of it, and then locore.s to copy > the right number of bytes. (Yes, I hate it too) I don't think you need to change the nfs_diskless structure. It already contains the interface to use (it gets filled in by the netboot code in main.c). Just make sure that your lpt.c initializes 'eth_driver' to "lp0" and it should do the right thing. It works with the 3C509 which doesn't use the ed0 driver. Martin From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 10:54:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29460 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 10:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29193 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 10:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id TAA26415 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:51:26 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id TAA22312 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:51:26 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA10634 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:30:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607231730.TAA10634@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: changing localtime() behaviour To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:30:18 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Brandon Gillespie at "Jul 23, 96 09:30:39 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Brandon Gillespie wrote: > How would one go about changing the behavior of localtime() so that > the value for struct tm.tm_year has the thousands in the year, ala '1996' > rather than just '96'? This would violate ANSI. It's been short-sightened of ANSI to define this behaviour, but we now have to live with it that the year 2000 will have the tm_year representation of 100. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 11:38:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03310 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03301 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08933; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:38:20 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id UAA00956; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:37:23 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.5/keltia-uucp-2.8) id TAA07568; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:56:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607231756.TAA07568@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:56:36 +0200 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: ts@polynet.lviv.ua (Terletsky Slavik) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Hackers mailing list) Subject: Re: How can I trap the CTRL-ALT-DEL combination In-Reply-To: <31F3B037.167E@polynet.lviv.ua>; from Terletsky Slavik on Jul 22, 1996 19:45:43 +0300 References: <31F3B037.167E@polynet.lviv.ua> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.37 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Terletsky Slavik: > When I need to reboot my remote router I call untrusted poeple to > switch OFF & ON the box, but would it be nice to do that traping > CTRL-ALT-DEL combination && reboot. Where can I do it? Look into your keymap file (taken from /usr/share/syscons/keymaps) and search for boot in it. If it has not the "boot" string in it, replace the lines #083 and #103 by these 083 del '.' '.' '.' '.' '.' boot boot N 103 fkey61 fkey61 fkey61 fkey61 fkey61 fkey61 boot fkey61 O There was talk to enable/disable it via a sysctl(3) parameter but no one ever got around to do it... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #16: Sun Jul 21 13:26:53 MET DST 1996 From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 11:51:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03876 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03869 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id UAA27811; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:50:36 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA23246; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:50:36 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA11090; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:43:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607231843.UAA11090@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:43:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: erich@lodgenet.com (Eric L. Hernes) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607231437.JAA25282@jake.lodgenet.com> from "Eric L. Hernes" at "Jul 23, 96 09:37:09 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Eric L. Hernes wrote: > I've been looking at the EL-Torito stuff for booting CDs. > Phoenix has a 4 page doc that tells how to make a bootable > CD from an image (http://www.ptltd.com/desktop/makecd.pdf). > Has anyone successfully booted from CD or maybe have > a little information on it? I've also been looking at El Torito, and figured that they've invented a lot of useless crap. :) If i'd give it a try, i would use the emulationless approach. We've got plenty of space on the CD's (there's 32 KB unused space before the cd9660 f/s starts), this should be enough even for an X11-based bootstrap loader. ;) If you want a self-contained CD-ROM bootable file system, you probably need some MFS root version. Btw., i've also downloaded their guide how to make a bootable CD from an image, but dismissed it instantly. I don't think it's worth the Internet bandwidth. Writing a bootloader is certainly the smallest part when designing a CD-bootable BSD. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 12:44:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07015 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 12:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07007 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 12:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA22991; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:43:54 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma022985; Tue Jul 23 14:43:46 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA29380; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:43:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA04317; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:43:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607231943.OAA04317@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:43:15 +0200." <199607231843.UAA11090@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:43:47 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch writes: >As Eric L. Hernes wrote: > >I've also been looking at El Torito, and figured that they've invented >a lot of useless crap. :) For the most part I'd agree. All that's really needed is a simple way for the bios get code off CD. > >If i'd give it a try, i would use the emulationless approach. We've >got plenty of space on the CD's (there's 32 KB unused space before the >cd9660 f/s starts), this should be enough even for an X11-based >bootstrap loader. ;) > >If you want a self-contained CD-ROM bootable file system, you probably >need some MFS root version. Yea, I've got a hacked up boot.flp that has a minimum kernel with sbin/init, bin/sh, and etc/rc on an MFS root.. > >Btw., i've also downloaded their guide how to make a bootable CD from >an image, but dismissed it instantly. I don't think it's worth the >Internet bandwidth. Writing a bootloader is certainly the smallest >part when designing a CD-bootable BSD. > I thought that was more useful than the spec ;-). It looked like I could make a cd bootable from boot.flp pretty easily, no? The project I'm working on is to have an mpeg player as a stand-alone box. I'd like to pull mpeg content off cdrom. I really don't want to put a hard disk in it. My options are to boot from floppy, or boot from CD. I'd like to use the CD. The problem is that CD-booting is real new and I'm having a bit of a problem figuring out which hardware supports it. After I've found hardware that'll support booting, I'll hack on mkisofs to spit out a bootable image. >-- >cheers, J"org > >joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE >Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 12:56:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07864 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07859 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 12:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA09707; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 12:57:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 12:57:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Will this work? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I was wondering if the following will work. I have a Western Digital 1.6GIG Drive which I setted up as LBA Mode in the BIOS when I installed FreeBSD as wd0 and I forgot to change the geometry in fdisk so the bootstrap doesn't work. The drive has a 540 meg DOS partition and the rest is FreeBSD. Now, I am booting off the second 1.275 GIG Conner CFA1275A Drive as wd1 which is in NORMAL Bios Mode. Now I wonder if I put the wd0 drive in Normal mode in the Bios, and boot from the second drive, and then bootstrap -B wd0, will this allow the first drive to boot and not mess up the FreeBSD partition? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Vince From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 13:51:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA11877 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hidrogenio.widesoft.com.br (hidrogenio.widesoft.com.br [200.246.206.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11866 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from litio (litio.widesoft.com.br [200.246.206.3]) by hidrogenio.widesoft.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA00487 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:34:31 -0300 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:34:31 -0300 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960723175622.25df8004@pop-gw> X-Sender: wsj@pop-gw X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hackers@freebsd.org From: "Waldemar Scudeller Jr." Subject: Problems in boot Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a server running 2.1.0-Release that have problems in boot: Jul 23 17:15:50 hidrogenio /kernel: execve: failed to allocate string space Jul 23 17:15:51 hidrogenio last message repeated 2 times Some programs don't start: ypserv/ypbind and others issue a error message: Jul 23 17:15:50 hidrogenio init: can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttycf: No such process Jul 23 17:15:50 hidrogenio init: can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyca: No such process But after boot, getty restart normaly. Does anyone can help me?? Where is the problem?? I have to recompile the kernel?? Waldemar. -------------------------------------------------------------- Waldemar Scudeller Jr. wsj@widesoft.com.br Widesoft Sistemas Ltda. http://www.widesoft.com.br Limeira/SP - Brasil F. +55 194 51 6300 -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 14:05:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13076 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13068 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06789 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607232104.OAA06789@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: NFS crash Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:04:48 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone seen this problem? > I have a problem with nfs mounting a freebsd machine from a Sun. I > have set it up just like it says FreeBSD handbook. It lets the Sun > mount the freeBSD drive. It lets me cd to the mount point, but when I > do a "ls", the freeBSD machine crashes. Have you ever seen this > problem? Please give me a call. > The errorthat is left on the bsd machine before it crashes is: Panic: > ufs_ihashget:recursive lock not expected -- pid86 Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 14:34:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15408 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DeepCore.dk (aalb27.pip.dknet.dk [194.192.0.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15306; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sos@localhost) by DeepCore.dk (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA00352; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:30:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607232130.XAA00352@DeepCore.dk> Subject: Re: anyone have a clue on this bug? To: julian@freefall.freebsd.org (Julian Elischer) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:30:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@freefall.freebsd.org, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607230933.CAA01679@freefall.freebsd.org> from Julian Elischer at "Jul 23, 96 02:33:10 am" From: sos@FreeBSD.org Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Julian Elischer who wrote: > > It's bitten us several times on recent -current machines.. > > due to some problem, a system dies.. > (bad h/w or whatever..) > on reboot it is discovered that some the files that were open at > the time of the reboot have been deleted by fsck > (i.e. they had 0 references or something) > > it's particulary annoying when it deletes the console or some other > useful device.. I've mainly seen it with devices, > but I think I have also seen directories mutating into devices > and files doing other odd things.. Seems like bad hw, I havn't seen anything like this, except when I tried out DEVFS long ago.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 14:48:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16474 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vince.avalon.rs.net (vince.avalon.rs.net [198.32.4.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16462 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by vince.avalon.rs.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA03015; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:45:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Subramaniam Vincent To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: IP router alert option In-Reply-To: <199607182008.WAA00329@DeepCore.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does any of the current releases support the Router Alert IP option ? (under setsockopt for IPPROTO_IP, IP_OPTIONS,.. ). I am porting some code that works with a sunos release. /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c seems to tell me that this option is not supported yet, at the setsockopt level ? vince From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 14:57:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17199 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from casual1.enci.ucalgary.ca (casual1.enci.ucalgary.ca [136.159.125.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17193 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walter (ts1-port-56.acs.ucalgary.ca [136.159.200.66]) by casual1.enci.ucalgary.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA26247; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:58:38 -0600 Received: by walter (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uipLR-00060JC; Tue, 23 Jul 96 15:50 MDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Jul 96 15:50 MDT From: Gord Matzigkeit To: Nate Williams CC: hackers@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Nate Williams's message of Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: PINT scanner device driver X-Attribution: Gord Reply-to: Gord Matzigkeit References: <199607221851.MAA21392@rocky.mt.sri.com> Cc: Nate Williams Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! >>>>> Nate Williams writes: NW> Gord Matzigkeit writes: >> Hi, all! >> >> I'm working on a port of the PINT device driver (PINT Is Not Twain) >> to FreeBSD. NW> I did this a while back, and even have my work stashed away some NW> place if you're interested in it. It should still be applicable NW> to pre-2.1.5 as I even kept the patches up to date via CVS, but I NW> deleted them when I upgraded, and would have to get it off backups NW> (which I might not have done). :( Please send them, (or point me to an URL) if you can. I'm having problems, too... maybe ours are different. I'm working with the new PINT betas that Kenneth Stailey has contributed to NetBSD/i386 1.2, so I may have better luck. NW> However, I couldn't get it to work, but in the process of NW> debugging it found the user-mode driver that Richard Tobin wrote NW> (now a port called hpscan) which works with all of the HP scanners NW> I've come in contact with, which happened to be one of those I NW> had. I see that one, too... what scanning software are you using? I've been trying PINT mainly because recent versions of it offer a nice variety of software. NW> In -current, there are no 'assigned' major numbers anymore as we NW> are moving towards DEVFS. For now, I'd steal a major number and NW> see if you can get it working first. That's what I've been doing. Thanks, --Gord -- Gord Matzigkeit | Humbly running the GNU Hurd (0.0 pre-alpha). gord@enci.ucalgary.ca | Jacques Cousteau loved programming in assembler. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 15:00:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA17646 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17637 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01027; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:00:14 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:00:14 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Amancio Hasty cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS crash In-Reply-To: <199607232104.OAA06789@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 23 Jul 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Has anyone seen this problem? > > > > I have a problem with nfs mounting a freebsd machine from a Sun. I > > have set it up just like it says FreeBSD handbook. It lets the Sun > > mount the freeBSD drive. It lets me cd to the mount point, but when I > > do a "ls", the freeBSD machine crashes. Have you ever seen this > > problem? Please give me a call. At various times -current has exhibited this sort of behaviour. FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP does it reliably for me, although the machine doing the mounting is an OSF/1 box. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 15:08:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18558 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.pdx.edu (root@cs.pdx.edu [204.203.64.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18535 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sirius.cs.pdx.edu (root@sirius.cs.pdx.edu [204.203.64.13]) by cs.pdx.edu (8.7.3/CATastrophe-2/10/96-P) with ESMTP id PAA06253; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:07:55 -0700 (PDT) for Received: from localhost (jrb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sirius.cs.pdx.edu (8.7.3/CATastrophe-9/18/94-C) with ESMTP id PAA13263; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:07:53 -0700 (PDT) for Message-Id: <199607232207.PAA13263@sirius.cs.pdx.edu> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: puzzled about if ioctls Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:07:52 -0700 From: Jim Binkley Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have a coding problem and am hoping someone might have a half-way decent solution or workaround OR ... The problem is basically that I need to check for su privilege in an if_something.c network driver and there is no proc parameter passed into it from above. Other more ordinary ioctl drivers have such a mechanism, e.g., sio.c. if*.c something drivers DON'T. Why not? I have a totally device specific parameter that I want to set so the code shouldn't live in /net/if.c to check it. I can add an ioctl ok for a if*.c driver but I didn't want to have to change every instance of a call to lower level ioctl routines in the network code in order to pass on the proc parameter. Foo. (I want to set something called the Network ID on a wavelan card. That's pretty device specific. It isn't going to show up elsewhere except maybe on garage door openers). More details: ------------------------------------------------------ Try this: # cd /sys/i386/isa # grep suser *.c You will see lines like: sio.c: error = suser(p->p_ucred, &p->p_acflag); The above is most likely in an ioctl routine with params like sioctl(dev, cmd, data, flag, p) where the last param is struct proc *p; ------------------------------------------------------ Note that there were no such lines in if*.c Now take a look in /sys/net/if.c at ifioctl or in /sys/netinet/in.c at the in_control function. Look at the default: clause in in_control. No p parameter is passed down. Whatever happened to good old suser() with no parameters? regards, Jim Binkley jrb@cs.pdx.edu From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 15:09:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18638 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18615; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607232209.PAA18615@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sos@FreeBSD.org cc: julian@freefall.freebsd.org (Julian Elischer), current@freefall.freebsd.org, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone have a clue on this bug? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:30:50 +0200." <199607232130.XAA00352@DeepCore.dk> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:09:01 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In reply to Julian Elischer who wrote: >> >> It's bitten us several times on recent -current machines.. >> >> due to some problem, a system dies.. >> (bad h/w or whatever..) >> on reboot it is discovered that some the files that were open at >> the time of the reboot have been deleted by fsck >> (i.e. they had 0 references or something) >> >> it's particulary annoying when it deletes the console or some other >> useful device.. I've mainly seen it with devices, >> but I think I have also seen directories mutating into devices >> and files doing other odd things.. > >Seems like bad hw, I havn't seen anything like this, except when I >tried out DEVFS long ago.... I've seen fsck eat things I didn't think it should have before. I never looked into fsck itself though, I just fixed the bugs in my driver that would cause hangs. 8-( >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team > Even more code to hack -- will it ever end >.. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 15:10:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18861 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clipper.cs.kiev.ua (root@cs-demon-64k.cs.kiev.ua [193.124.48.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18808 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dog by clipper.cs.kiev.ua with uucp id m0uipas-0004x5C; Wed, 24 Jul 96 01:06 WET DST Received: (from dk@localhost) by dog.farm.org (8.7.5/dk#3) id NAA06537; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:02:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Message-Id: <199607231702.NAA06537@dog.farm.org> Subject: Re: lp booting: first cut To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dk+@ua.net, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <3892.838134990@critter.tfs.com> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Jul 23, 96 05:16:30 pm" Reply-To: dk+@ua.net X-Class: Fast X-OS-Of-Choice: FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP X-NIC-Handle: DK379 X-Pager-Email: dk@interpage.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Poul-Henning Kamp: > The plip stuff depends on the speed of both cpus, it's very finiky. I would say `dark magic' ;-) I plan to hack somewhat on this, too. (eating 30-40% of CPU is just too much ;-) > >unfortunately, the kernel cannot proceed to single-user (all it > >says is `NFS SWAP:' and `NFS ROOT:' lines). I am trying to figure what's > >wrong now. Previously, I had error 65 (no route to host) in nfs/nfs_vfsops.c, > >but I have fixed that by adding explicit gateway. > > There is some utterly disgusting code that tries to find a ed%d interface > to use in the kernel. That would be a problem. You need to explain > to it that it's a lp0 interface instead in this case. The right medium > for this explanation is the struct nfs_diskless (?) and since you change > that you need to change the version# of it, and then locore.s to copy > the right number of bytes. (Yes, I hate it too) Yes, the code is there, but it is just a not-related hack. I have already used the Source to find to proper way to do it. I don't need to change struct nfs_diskless. myif has fields for interface name ("lp0"), address, broadcast (used as destionation address for point-to-point in SIOCAIFADDR - took me some time to figure out), and mask. The only magic added was setting broadcast to gateway if netmask is all ones, and this change was done in boot/netboot/main.c. No core kernel code touched. Now if somebody would explain me how to trace this mysterious hang by DDB. I try to boot -s, and still get a hang. ctrl-alt-esc just throws me into debugger with stack trace down to idleloop() or something. `ps' in ddb doesn't show anything but a basic crowd (swapper init pagedaemon vmdaemon update). I would try to boot -d now. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 15:15:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19161 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19150; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA00408; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 00:15:03 +0200 (MET DST) To: dk+@ua.net cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lp booting: first cut In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:02:13 EDT." <199607231702.NAA06537@dog.farm.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 00:15:03 +0200 Message-ID: <406.838160103@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Now if somebody would explain me how to trace this mysterious hang by DDB. >I try to boot -s, and still get a hang. ctrl-alt-esc just throws me into >debugger with stack trace down to idleloop() or something. `ps' in ddb >doesn't show anything but a basic crowd (swapper init pagedaemon vmdaemon >update). I would try to boot -d now. Try to run tcpdump on the server and see what comes your way. Be aware that it may (still) not work with plip though. Some patches have been sent to me, but they are way down my stack and untested. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 15:25:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19808 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19800; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07706; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607232225.PAA07706@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@freefall.freebsd.org (Julian Elischer), current@freefall.freebsd.org, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone have a clue on this bug? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:09:01 PDT." <199607232209.PAA18615@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:25:10 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Justin T. Gibbs" : > I've seen fsck eat things I didn't think it should have before. I never > looked into fsck itself though, I just fixed the bugs in my driver that > would cause hangs. 8-( And you have done and darn good job . Currently, running FreeBSD-current with my adaptec 2940UW, a Seagate 4.1gb Wide scsi and few a other scsi devices 8) Tnks! Amancio From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 15:44:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21035 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21028 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01716; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:43:27 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:43:26 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Rishi Gautam cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ned info for Host Route add In-Reply-To: <9607240203.AA25716@teil.soft.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 23 Jul 1996, Rishi Gautam wrote: > > Hi > > I have a network with subnet address 192.192.10. I hooked a machine1 > with IP adress 228.100.11.135. I want to add HOST route in the machine1 > for the host 192.192.10.30 with LLINFO flag set, so that i can communicate > to the machine 192.192.10.30. I also want to create a route in the machine > 192.192.10.30 for the machine1(228,100.11.135) with the LLINFO flag set. > > What route command i have to use? I tried all sort of combinations, and > it's seems that nothing is working. > The commands i tried are for machine1 228.100.11.135 > route add -host 192.192.10.30 228.100.11.135 -netmask 255.255.255.255 -interfacee > error: arp_rtrequest bad gateway value. > But it add the host rtentry. > if we did netstat -r, it gives error "arp_resolve: can't allocate llinfo" > I think it's not creting the space for the llinfo structure in the > arp_rtrequest, when I am adding the route. >From your description, you have things a little upside-down. For starters, why are you using 228.100.11.135? Isn't 228.*.*.* class D networks? If this is a private network you should use 192.168.*.*. If you are joining the two machines via ethernet, then you need to allocate IP addresses on the same network to each machine. e.g. 192.192.10.30 and 192.192.10.40. *Then* you will be able to talk to machine1. If you want to route 228.100.11.135 packets to machine1, you then say (on machine.30) route add 228.100.11.135 192.192.10.40 If you want both of these addresses on the ethernet interface, then you need to: ifconfig ed0 192.192.10.40 (at the console, of course) ifconfig ed0 228.100.11.135 alias Danny From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 16:04:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22259 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom10.netcom.com (nickliu@netcom10.netcom.com [192.100.81.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22254 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nickliu@localhost) by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id QAA07038; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:04:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:04:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Liu Subject: Re: Ned info for Host Route add To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: Rishi Gautam , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Jul 1996, Rishi Gautam wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > I have a network with subnet address 192.192.10. I hooked a machine1 > > with IP adress 228.100.11.135. I want to add HOST route in the machine1 > > for the host 192.192.10.30 with LLINFO flag set, so that i can communicate > > to the machine 192.192.10.30. I also want to create a route in the machine > > 192.192.10.30 for the machine1(228,100.11.135) with the LLINFO flag set. > > > > What route command i have to use? I tried all sort of combinations, and > > it's seems that nothing is working. > > The commands i tried are for machine1 228.100.11.135 > > route add -host 192.192.10.30 228.100.11.135 -netmask 255.255.255.255 -interfacee > > error: arp_rtrequest bad gateway value. > > But it add the host rtentry. > > if we did netstat -r, it gives error "arp_resolve: can't allocate llinfo" > > I think it's not creting the space for the llinfo structure in the > > arp_rtrequest, when I am adding the route. > > >From your description, you have things a little upside-down. For > starters, why are you using 228.100.11.135? Isn't 228.*.*.* class D > networks? If this is a private network you should use 192.168.*.*. > > If you are joining the two machines via ethernet, then you need to > allocate IP addresses on the same network to each machine. e.g. > 192.192.10.30 and 192.192.10.40. *Then* you will be able to talk to > machine1. If you want to route 228.100.11.135 packets to machine1, you > then say (on machine.30) > route add 228.100.11.135 192.192.10.40 > > If you want both of these addresses on the ethernet interface, then you > need to: > ifconfig ed0 192.192.10.40 (at the console, of course) > ifconfig ed0 228.100.11.135 alias > > Danny > My other computer is a Win95 box, what do I have to do to set that up? The addresses I intended to use are: 192.168.254.1 for FBSD (as gateway) 192.168.254.2 for Win95 I have issued: ifconfig ed0 192.168.254.1 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.168.254.255 (Really appreciate if you help). From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 16:29:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23418 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23413 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 16:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00524 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:29:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: hackers@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: if_de Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:29:23 -0400 Message-ID: <520.838164563@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Anyone know when a STABLE version of the if_de driver will be available which supports full duplex mode for 100bTX operation? There is a switching 100bTX hub here which does full duplex, and it'd be nice to totally eliminate collisions on the cables to/from the server... Thanks Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 17:15:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA26223 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26218 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab06037; 24 Jul 96 1:15 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa24973; 24 Jul 96 1:14 +0100 Received: (from fhackers@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA18599; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:26:26 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199607231926.TAA18599@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: changing localtime() behaviour To: Brandon Gillespie Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:26:26 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brandon Gillespie" at Jul 23, 96 09:30:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > How would one go about changing the behavior of localtime() so that > the value for struct tm.tm_year has the thousands in the year, ala '1996' > rather than just '96'? Actually, the tm_year field is the number of years since 1900, which is not the same as the last two digits in the year (eg the year 2007 would have a tm_year value of 107). So if you're doing this to find out which century you're in, that problem has already been solved for you! Also, changing this would break compatibility with ISO C or POSIX, and may cause other programs to work incorrectly. If you really want to hack around with the source, it's in /usr/src/lib/libc/stdtime, but I'd recommend writing your own function rather than messing around with the system one. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 17:25:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA26907 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail0.iij.ad.jp (root@mail0.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26901 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucp1.iij.ad.jp (uucp1.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.73]) by mail0.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-MAIL) with ESMTP id JAA24172; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:24:26 +0900 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp1.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-UUCP) with UUCP id JAA06060; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:24:26 +0900 Received: from xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp by yyy.kgc.co.jp (8.7.5/3.4W:95122611) id JAA11392; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:12:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost by xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp (8.6.12/3.3W8:95062916) id JAA00403; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:12:07 +0900 Message-Id: <199607240012.JAA00403@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> To: "K.V.S. Sankaram" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to use BPF ? In-reply-to: "K.V.S. Sankaram"'s message of 23 Jul 1996 19:29:01 +0900 References: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:12:06 +0900 From: Toshihiro Kanda Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am facing problems in sending packets through BPF. Can anybody give me > > some idea (or steps) as to how to configure BPF and send packets through it ? static struct bpf_program prog; First, initialize prog. Then, char *name = "ed0"; fd = open("/dev/bpf0", O_RDWR); if (fd >= 0) { struct bpf_version ver; if (ioctl(fd, BIOCVERSION, &ver) == 0) { if (BPF_MAJOR_VERSION == ver.bv_major && BPF_MINOR_VERSION <= ver.bv_minor) { unsigned int blen = BPF_BUFFER_SIZE; if (ioctl(fd, BIOCSBLEN, &blen) == 0) { struct ifreq ifr; strncpy(ifr.ifr_name, name, sizeof(ifr.ifr_name)); if (ioctl(fd, BIOCSETIF, &ifr) == 0) { unsigned int im = 1; if (ioctl(fd, BIOCIMMEDIATE, &im) == 0) { if (ioctl(fd, BIOCSETF, prog) == 0) { err = fd; } } } } } } if (err < 0) close(fd); } : : : write(fd, data, length); Note: data[12] and data[13] (ether type) must be host byte order (NOT network byte order). I believe this is a bug, though FreeBSD core team don't think so. candy@fct.kgc.co.jp (Toshihiro Kanda) From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 17:31:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA27374 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1-bsb.gns.com.br ([200.239.56.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27355 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by srv1-bsb.gns.com.br (8.7.5/8.7.5) id VAA05675; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 21:30:18 -0300 (EST) Received: from dl0122-bsb.gns.com.br(200.239.56.122) by srv1-bsb.gns.com.br via smap (V1.3) id sma005495; Tue Jul 23 21:29:21 1996 Received: by DANIEL.gns.net.br (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0111; Tue, 23 Jul 96 20:19:56 +0300 Message-Id: <9607231719.AA0111@DANIEL.gns.net.br> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 96 20:19:55 +0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" Subject: Re: Virtual domains? (fwd) To: hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: e8917523@linf.unb.br X-Disclaimer: Klaatu Barada Nikto! X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm not sure if the virtual domains question came from here or current, but... Forwarded message: > > >> "Software Virtual Servers" are part of the http/1.1 standard (proposed), > >> and were first implememted by the Netscape servers. One thing to remember > >> with these "non-ip based" virtual servers is that to date, only Netscape > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> Navigator sends the required HEADER to let the web server know the NAME of > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> the domain it's after. So if most of your hits are coming from Nav. 2.0 or > >> higher, it's safe to use Software Virtual Servers. If you have a lot of > >> hits from places like AOL or Compuserve, however, it would be a bad idea > >> to implement either Netscape's or Apache's new virtual domain method. > > > >Is that so? > > No. Lynx2-5 sends a Host: header as described in the > HTTP/1.1 working drafts. > > I don't know about AOL/Compuserve, but I'd be surprised > if the current client didn't. The July 1996 HTTP/1.1 RFC is in > last call, and the procedure is not "new" at this point (been > in wide use for more than a year). Which remind me I should check if the lynx port has already been updated to, at least, 2-5. It should be a matter of two minutes, *after* understanding the port process (:-), since 2-5FM (I don't know about 2-5) has been accepting "make freebsd" and "make freebsd-ncurses" (which requires an additional -DNCURSESHEADER to be inserted) for some time now... -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@gns.com.br e8917523@linf.unb.br From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 20:01:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA06732 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (pechter@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06717 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA21135; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:58:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199607240258.WAA21135@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: Socks5.conf To: FreeBSD-questions@wcarchive.cdrom.com (FreeBSD-questions) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD-chat@wcarchive.cdrom.com (FreeBSD-chat), FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-hackers) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone have a sample socks5.conf file -- I'm looking to replace fwtk with socks for IP masquerading. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Pechter/Carolyn Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive, Tinton Falls, NJ 07724, 908-389-3592 | pechter@shell.monmouth.com I'll run Win95 on my box when you pry the keyboard from my cold, dead hands. FreeBSD, OS/2, CP/M, RT11, spoken here. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 20:06:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA07027 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (pechter@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07009; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA21625; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:03:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199607240303.XAA21625@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: Socks5.conf file wanted To: FreeBSD-chat@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-chat) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-hackers), FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-questions) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone have a working socks5.conf file I could use as a template. I'm trying to replace fwtk with socks5 for IP masquerading here. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Pechter/Carolyn Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive, Tinton Falls, NJ 07724, 908-389-3592 | pechter@shell.monmouth.com I'll run Win95 on my box when you pry the keyboard from my cold, dead hands. FreeBSD, OS/2, CP/M, RT11, spoken here. From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 22:54:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA18991 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from research.gate.nec.co.jp (research.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18985 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp by research.gate.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/950912) with ESMTP id OAA14625; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:54:04 +0900 (JST) Received: from sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp by sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.3W6) with ESMTP id OAA07644; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:54:03 +0900 (JST) X-Authentication-Warning: sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp: Host nao@sirius [133.207.68.90] claimed to be sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp Received: by sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.3W6) with UUCP id OAA24904; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:54:02 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:54:02 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199607240554.OAA24904@sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp> To: FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org From: HAMADA Naoki Subject: ep bug fix Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I fixed two bugs of the ep driver. First, the transmit complete interrupt enabling patch which appeared in revision 1.50 makes the ep driver out of order, so I got rid of it. Second, when the adapter uses IRQ 9, the ep driver set the IRQ register of the adapter to IRQ 2. This disables the interrupt generation. From "Ethelink III Parallel Tasking ISA, EISA, Micro Channel, and PCMCIA Adapter Drivers Technical Reference": IRQ: Interrupt Request select (values given in decimal) {3,5,7,9,10,11,12,15} = Enable corresponding IRQ line driver. {0,1,2,4,6,8,13,14} = Disable all IRQ line drivers. I made the ep driver sets the correct IRQ number. Third, not a bug fix. The problem with 'AUTO SELECT' feature is quite frequently asked me, so I made the driver to warn when it finds the 'AUTO SELECT' bit of 3C509B and 3C589[BC] is set. With the following patch, my 3C509B ISA adapter and my 3C589C PCMCIA adapter works greatly. -nao --- if_ep.c- Wed Jul 24 11:26:52 1996 +++ if_ep.c Wed Jul 24 13:23:54 1996 @@ -274,6 +274,7 @@ struct isa_device *is = &dp->isahd; struct ep_softc *sc = ep_softc[is->id_unit]; u_short config; + int acf; sc->ep_connectors = 0; config = inw(IS_BASE + EP_W0_CONFIG_CTRL); @@ -285,7 +286,12 @@ } if (!(sc->ep_connectors & 7)) printf("no connectors!"); - sc->ep_connector = inw(BASE + EP_W0_ADDRESS_CFG) >> ACF_CONNECTOR_BITS; + acf = inw(BASE + EP_W0_ADDRESS_CFG); + if (acf & ACF_AUTO_SELECT) { + printf("ep%d: WARNING: This driver is not capable of AUTO SELECT.\n", + is->id_unit); + } + sc->ep_connector = acf >> ACF_CONNECTOR_BITS; /* ROM size = 0, ROM base = 0 */ /* For now, ignore AUTO SELECT feature of 3C589B and later. */ @@ -598,6 +604,7 @@ struct ep_softc *sc = ep_softc[is->id_unit]; u_short config; int irq; + int acf; sc->ep_connectors = 0; config = inw(IS_BASE + EP_W0_CONFIG_CTRL); @@ -612,7 +619,12 @@ } if (!(sc->ep_connectors & 7)) printf("no connectors!"); - sc->ep_connector = inw(BASE + EP_W0_ADDRESS_CFG) >> ACF_CONNECTOR_BITS; + acf = inw(BASE + EP_W0_ADDRESS_CFG); + if (acf & ACF_AUTO_SELECT) { + printf("ep%d: WARNING: This driver is not capable of auto select.\n", + is->id_unit); + } + sc->ep_connector = acf >> ACF_CONNECTOR_BITS; /* * Write IRQ value to board */ @@ -624,8 +636,8 @@ } GO_WINDOW(0); - if(irq == 9) - irq = 2; + if(irq == 2) + irq = 9; SET_IRQ(BASE, irq); ep_attach(sc); @@ -964,7 +976,7 @@ } IF_DEQUEUE(&ifp->if_snd, m); - outw(BASE + EP_W1_TX_PIO_WR_1, len | 0x8000); /* XXX */ + outw(BASE + EP_W1_TX_PIO_WR_1, len); outw(BASE + EP_W1_TX_PIO_WR_1, 0x0); /* Second dword meaningless */ /* compute the Tx start threshold for this packet */ --- if_epreg.h- Wed Jul 24 11:27:23 1996 +++ if_epreg.h Wed Jul 24 11:32:24 1996 @@ -364,6 +364,7 @@ #define ACF_CONNECTOR_UTP 0 #define ACF_CONNECTOR_AUI 1 #define ACF_CONNECTOR_BNC 3 +#define ACF_AUTO_SELECT 0x0080 /* Resource configuration register. * Window 0/Port 08 From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 23 23:21:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA20504 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clipper.cs.kiev.ua (root@cs-demon-64k.cs.kiev.ua [193.124.48.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA20474 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dog by clipper.cs.kiev.ua with uucp id m0uix5Z-00050sC; Wed, 24 Jul 96 09:06 WET DST Received: (from dk@localhost) by dog.farm.org (8.7.5/dk#3) id BAA00994; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 01:43:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Message-Id: <199607240543.BAA00994@dog.farm.org> Subject: Re: lp booting: first cut To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 01:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dk+@ua.net, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <406.838160103@critter.tfs.com> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Jul 24, 96 00:15:03 am" Reply-To: dk+@ua.net X-Class: Fast X-OS-Of-Choice: FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP X-NIC-Handle: DK379 X-Pager-Email: dk@interpage.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Poul-Henning Kamp: > >Now if somebody would explain me how to trace this mysterious hang by DDB. > >I try to boot -s, and still get a hang. ctrl-alt-esc just throws me into > >debugger with stack trace down to idleloop() or something. `ps' in ddb > >doesn't show anything but a basic crowd (swapper init pagedaemon vmdaemon > >update). I would try to boot -d now. > > Try to run tcpdump on the server and see what comes your way. as I said, the tcpdump in 2.2-960501-SNAP doesn't work with lp0. I have carefully looked at BPF stuff in lpt.c and cannot understand why. I would be grateful for a patch. also, it appears that portmapper is broken at least twice in this snap: first, it cannot get list of all addresses (including aliases) - I have resorted to hack on from_local.c:from_local() to return TRUE always ;-( second, mountd doesn't work if hostname is bound to alias or to nearest end of slip interface, e.g.: working configuration: !ifconfig -au lp0: flags=8851 mtu 1500 inet 193.124.48.195 --> 193.124.48.198 netmask 0xffffff00 ^^my hostname^^ ^^^diskless^^^ tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.2.15 --> 10.0.2.2 netmask 0xff000000 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet 193.124.48.200 netmask 0xffffff00 inet 193.124.48.201 netmask 0xffffff00 inet 193.124.48.202 netmask 0xffffff00 if dog.farm.org (193.124.48.195) is bound as alias to lo0 instead (and I use other address for closer end of lp0), or if I bound it to closer end of sl0, mountd and nfsd cannot register with portmapper: not-working configuration: changed lp0: lp0: flags=8851 mtu 1500 inet 193.124.48.197 --> 193.124.48.198 netmask 0xffffff00 added sl0: sl1: flags=c010 mtu 552 inet 193.124.48.195 --> 0.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 I understand that binding addresses to separate slip interface is a kludge, but it is somewhat more reliable kludge than using interface alias. (and I have used to do it on SCO(tm) Unix(tm) 3.2.4.2 , which doesn't have aliases.) Also, after a couple of hours spent with DDB (btw, why a manual page mentions x/m which doesn't work??), I figured that the hang is inside infinite loop in nfs/nfs_socket.c:nfs_reply(). I have then changed the place where I put my hostname (e.g., changed from non-working to working configuration ;-)), and it started to work! So it seems that this is a multi-homed setup I have which causes this trouble. (probably nfs client sends packets to .195, and expects answers coming back from this address, but they arrive with .197. ) Now I managed to get it single-user (flags s in bootp config file) until `Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh:' and `Erase is...' line after that. Then, it hangs. (the only tool I have on the remote side is netstat -I lp0 4, which is pretty enough to see when the interface dies; I cannot ping anymore, I cannot even break to DDB on the client.) At this point, I start to think that my DTR-1 (Cyrix 486SLC, running at 8MHz since running it at 25MHz causes reboot just after loading kernel) is somewhat fundamentally broken and non-compatible with PLIP. I have already tweaked LPMAXSPIN[12]. Please somebody test my patches on more standard machine and report whether they work or not. I am 99% sure that they would be absolutely OK. Dmitry. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 00:37:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA24343 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 00:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24324; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 00:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA26193; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 00:37:50 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607240737.AAA26193@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: ecu broken? To: freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD hackers), freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD ports) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 00:37:50 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! Is support for colors at the console broken in the -current ecu (it was in the 2.1R port and I want to know if I should bother submitting a patch) Thx, --don From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 02:17:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA07821 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.philips.nl (ns.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA07810 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) id LAA19289 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:16:41 +0200 Received: from unknown(192.26.173.32) by ns.philips.nl via smap (V1.3+ESMTP) with ESMTP id sma019134; Wed Jul 24 11:15:23 1996 Received: from aonc01.nym.sc.philips.com (aonc01.nym.sc.philips.com [130.144.70.193]) by smtp.nl.cis.philips.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-0.9z-02May95) with ESMTP id LAA21427 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:17:46 +0200 Received: from NLNMG01.nym.sc.philips.com (nlnmg01 [130.144.80.6]) by aonc01.nym.sc.philips.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-0.993a-08Jan96) with ESMTP id LAA16751 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:13:34 +0200 Received: from NLNMG01/MAILQUEUE by NLNMG01.nym.sc.philips.com (Mercury 1.21); 24 Jul 96 11:16:16 +0100 Received: from MAILQUEUE by NLNMG01 (Mercury 1.21); 24 Jul 96 11:15:56 +0100 From: "Kees Jan Koster" Organization: Philips Semiconductors Nijmegen To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:15:48 GMT+0100 Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms Reply-to: Kees.Koster@nym.sc.philips.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <477BC0C711E@NLNMG01.nym.sc.philips.com> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The project I'm working on is to have an mpeg player as a stand-alone > box. I'd like to pull mpeg content off cdrom. I really don't want > to put a hard disk in it. > Hmm. You have a name for it yet? How about CD-i ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 02:21:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA08224 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from innocence.interface-business.de (innocence.interface-business.de [193.101.57.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA08215 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ida.interface-business.de (ida.interface-business.de [193.101.57.203]) by innocence.interface-business.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA11909 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:20:54 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by ida.interface-business.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA06848 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:21:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607240921.LAA06848@ida.interface-business.de> Subject: Mickeysoft Frontpage Server extensions To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:21:28 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@interface-business.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-31809-14 X-Fax: +49-351-3361187 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, no idea what a better suited mailing list might be. (freebsd-isp?) Does anybody have some experience with ? Are there any security risks to fear when i install these binaries? -- J"org Wunsch Unix support engineer joerg_wunsch@interface-business.de http://www.interface-business.de/~j From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 02:32:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA08859 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA08836; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA25509 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:30:48 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Wed, 24 Jul 96 12:30:48 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00345; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:23:31 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199607240923.NAA00345@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: ecu broken? To: dgy@rtd.com (Don Yuniskis) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:23:30 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607240737.AAA26193@seagull.rtd.com> from "Don Yuniskis" at "Jul 24, 96 00:37:50 am" From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is support for colors at the console broken in the -current > ecu (it was in the 2.1R port and I want to know if I should > bother submitting a patch) I see colors in -current. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 02:33:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA08964 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA08946; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00362; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607240932.CAA00362@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Kees.Koster@nym.sc.philips.com cc: hackers@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:15:48 BST." <477BC0C711E@NLNMG01.nym.sc.philips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:32:54 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Kees Jan Koster" : > > > > The project I'm working on is to have an mpeg player as a stand-alone > > box. I'd like to pull mpeg content off cdrom. I really don't want > > to put a hard disk in it. > > > Hmm. You have a name for it yet? How about CD-i ;-) > Please not CD-I! Something a bit more open that we can have the specs for 8) BTW: Omnimedia's hardware mpeg decoder with NTSC output works great in FreeBSD.. At any rate, this sort of discussion falls more on the multimedia mailing list. Amancio From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 03:10:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA10330 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.sbs.de (ns.scn.de [194.112.84.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA10323 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.sbs.de (8.6.12/8.6.11) id KAA09730 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:05:52 GMT Received: from marina.scn.de(192.129.41.2) by ns via smap (v3.0.1) id sma009722; Wed, 24 Jul 96 12:05:26 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by marina.scn.de (8.6.11/8.6.12) id MAA14930 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:09:28 +0200 Received: from unknown(132.5.2.1) by marina.scn.de via smap (V1.3) id sma014920; Wed Jul 24 12:09:23 1996 Received: from india by hermes.mch.scn.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA14224 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:05:46 +0200 Received: from bravo (bravo [180.144.250.2]) by india (8.6.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA13973 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:34:35 +0500 Received: by bravo (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA057383144; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:42:24 +0530 From: mangesh@mch.scn.de Posted-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:42:24 +0530 Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:42:24 +0530 Message-Id: <199607241012.AA057383144@bravo> Subject: unsubscribe To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:42:24 IST Reply-To: scs.014@mch.scn.de Organization: Siemens Communication Software Ltd, Bangalore, India X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 111.1] Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe scs.014@mch.scn.de From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 03:31:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA11071 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA11053 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by teil.soft.net via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for hackers@freebsd.org id AA27007; Wed, 24 Jul 96 15:59:30 -0800 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:59:29 -0800 (PST) From: "K.V.S. Sankaram" To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: "named" daemon Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * The "named" domain was not configured initially on my FREEBSD machine. * After I configured it to run, by making changes in the "/etc/sysconfig" file, commands like "arp -a", "netstat -r", "telnet", & "ftp" are taking a lot of time to get executed. However, the "ifconfig -a" command is getting executed immediately, as usual. I have not tested other network related commands. So, I cannot say how they are getting executed, after configuring "named". What is the reason for this change ? -- K.V.S. Sankaram From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 03:48:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA11802 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA11781; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA06769; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:48:39 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607241048.DAA06769@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: ecu broken? To: ache@nagual.ru (=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:48:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: dgy@rtd.com, freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607240923.NAA00345@nagual.ru> from "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" at Jul 24, 96 01:23:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is support for colors at the console broken in the -current > > ecu (it was in the 2.1R port and I want to know if I should > > bother submitting a patch) > > I see colors in -current. Even without any of the "colors" files, startup _rc file, etc.? I'll look at the latest ecu and see if it's "fixed"... From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 04:06:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA12684 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA12678 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA22587; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:04:47 +1000 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:04:47 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607241104.VAA22587@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, jrb@cs.pdx.edu Subject: Re: puzzled about if ioctls Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >The problem is basically that I need to check for su privilege >in an if_something.c network driver and there is no proc parameter >passed into it from above. Other more ordinary ioctl drivers Many parts of the kernel have this problem and use: struct proc *p = curproc; /* XXX */ (this makes passing the parameter around to other places mainly a waste of time :-(). See e.g., slopen() in if_sl.c. The proc parameter got lost a couple of layers above. >Whatever happened to good old suser() with no parameters? I wonder how often p != curproc in suser(). Bruce From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 04:36:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA14717 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (root@[194.51.30.247]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA14676 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zapata.omnix.fr.org (zapata [128.127.10.1]) by zapata.omnix.fr.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA10749 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:31:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:31:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: didier@omnix.fr.org To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: ftp / tcp problem In-Reply-To: <199607230826.KAA03478@nustel.snes.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > ip: > 26976168 total packets received > 0 bad header checksums > 0 with size smaller than minimum > 0 with data size < data length > 0 with header length < data size > 0 with data length < header length > 0 with bad options > 0 with incorrect version number > 708623 fragments received > 0 fragments dropped (dup or out of space) > 6549 fragments dropped after timeout > 113138 packets reassembled ok > 26380379 packets for this host > 271 packets for unknown/unsupported protocol > 0 packets forwarded > 33 packets not forwardable > 0 redirects sent > 25941063 packets sent from this host > 0 packets sent with fabricated ip header > 0 output packets dropped due to no bufs, etc. > 17085 output packets discarded due to no route > 3219 output datagrams fragmented > 16014 fragments created > 0 datagrams that can't be fragmented > icmp: > 23 calls to icmp_error > 0 errors not generated 'cuz old message was icmp > Output histogram: > echo reply: 22 > destination unreachable: 23 > 0 messages with bad code fields > 0 messages < minimum length > 0 bad checksums > 0 messages with bad length > Input histogram: > echo reply: 15 > destination unreachable: 75 > echo: 22 > router solicitation: 21 > time exceeded: 175 > 22 message responses generated > igmp: > 0 messages received > 0 messages received with too few bytes > 0 messages received with bad checksum > 0 membership queries received > 0 membership queries received with invalid field(s) > 0 membership reports received > 0 membership reports received with invalid field(s) > 0 membership reports received for groups to which we belong > 0 membership reports sent > tcp: > 302 packets sent > 25530582 data packets (15179687 bytes) > 1405842270 data packets (4134 bytes) retransmitted > 5845101 ack-only packets (9646646 delayed) > 22 URG only packets > 10341244 window probe packets > 39 window update packets > 1526 control packets > 3930 packets received > 0 acks (for 15150547 bytes) > 0 duplicate acks > 692583 acks for unsent data > 25702165 packets (10761642 bytes) received in-sequence > 0 completely duplicate packets (688350 bytes) > 1314 old duplicate packets > 703293 packets with some dup. data (0 bytes duped) > 0 out-of-order packets (652 bytes) > 44640 packets (4 bytes) of data after window > 40 window probes > 1405852060 window update packets > 0 packets received after close > 767520312 discarded for bad checksums > 0 discarded for bad header offset fields > 0 discarded because packet too short > 1049 connection requests > 2460 connection accepts > 3014 connections established (including accepts) > 3592 connections closed (including 89 drops) > 0 connections updated cached RTT on close > 350 connections updated cached RTT variance on close > 350 connections updated cached ssthresh on close > 499 embryonic connections dropped > 15145509 segments updated rtt (of 15146257 attempts) > 3938 retransmit timeouts > 0 connections dropped by rexmit timeout > 1 persist timeout > 14 connections dropped by persist timeout > 0 keepalive timeouts > 2319 keepalive probes sent > 39 connections dropped by keepalive > 0 correct ACK header predictions > 13473654 correct data packet header predictions > udp: > 678177 datagrams received > 0 with incomplete header > 0 with bad data length field > 0 with bad checksum > 23 dropped due to no socket > 49231 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket > 6851 dropped due to full socket buffers > 622072 delivered > 405857 datagrams output > Hi, I've a problem with two FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE machines these machine has a SMC PCI card (de0 driver). I only get 15kb with ftp what can I do to solve this problem. I found the result of netstat -s quite strange. why so many tcp packet have a bad checksum. no errors are detected by ethernet switch (synoptics) Thanks for your help -- Didier Derny | My computer is Microsoft Free... didier@omnix.fr.org | FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE site From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 05:10:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA15908 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 05:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bbs.galactica.it (bbs.galactica.it [151.99.164.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA15871 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 05:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: davide@galactica.it Message-Id: <199607241209.FAA15871@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: 24 Jul 1996 14:05:34 GMT Subject: Multiple domain on the same machine Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have this problem: I'd like to configure my FreeBSD to manage two mail domain. domain1.it and domain2.it and to manage the mailbox of the users: info@domain1.it and info@domain2.it separately ... is it possible ? Thanks for reply Ciao Davide From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 05:55:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA17481 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com (suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com [158.147.19.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA17476 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 05:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suw2k.hisd.harris.com by suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA07156; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:55:13 -0400 Received: by suw2k.hisd.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26234; Wed, 24 Jul 96 08:51:39 EDT Date: Wed, 24 Jul 96 08:51:39 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.hisd.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9607241251.AA26234@suw2k.hisd.harris.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org, erich@lodgenet.com Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the torito specs and started looking into it until I ran out of CD's which are getting very hard to find and if you do the price has really gone up. So when you start playing make sure you have a box or 2 on hand :-) Because of a conference coming up I will have to stop for the next 2 weeks to get everything ready. The demo involves several notebook computers running freebsd of course :-) I can collect all the info I have and send it to you if you are interested. I have been using an hp 4020i with a 2940. Jim Leppek > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Tue Jul 23 11:07:36 1996 > X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol > X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 > To: hackers@freebsd.org > Subject: Bootable CD roms > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset=us-ascii> > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:37:09 -0500 > From: "Eric L. Hernes" > Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > howdy, > > I've been looking at the EL-Torito stuff for booting CDs. > Phoenix has a 4 page doc that tells how to make a bootable > CD from an image (http://www.ptltd.com/desktop/makecd.pdf). > Has anyone successfully booted from CD or maybe have > a little information on it? > > eric. > -- > erich@lodgenet.com > http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com > > From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 08:31:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA25226 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25208 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from truk.brandinnovators.com (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) pid 9845 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; id RAA09845; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:07:33 +0200 Received: by truk.brandinnovators.com (8.6.12/BI96070101) for id RAA01095; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:03:53 +0200 Message-Id: <199607241503.RAA01095@truk.brandinnovators.com> From: hans@brandinnovators.com (Hans Zuidam) Subject: catching /etc/rc output To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:03:53 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is there a convenient way to direct all output from the /etc/rc scripts to both the console and a file other than rewriting them? Scrollback is not always sufficient especially after lengthy fsck output. Regards, Hans -- Hans Zuidam E-Mail: hans@brandinnovators.com Brand Innovators B.V. P-Mail: P.O. Box 1377 de Pinckart 54 5602 BJ Eindhoven, The Netherlands 5674 CC Nuenen Tel. +31 40 2631134, Fax. +31 40 2831138 From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 08:31:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA25232 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25217 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from truk.brandinnovators.com (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) pid 9846 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; id RAA09846; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:07:33 +0200 Received: by truk.brandinnovators.com (8.6.12/BI96070101) for id QAA01080; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:59:45 +0200 Message-Id: <199607241459.QAA01080@truk.brandinnovators.com> From: hans@brandinnovators.com (Hans Zuidam) Subject: Patch for ldconfig 2.1R To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:59:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Below is a trivial patch for ldconfig(8) to make it read it's directories from a file instead of enumerating them on the command line. Maybe something for inclusion in some future release. To use the new version you would create a file like /etc/ld.so.conf which lists each shared library directory and in /etc/rc only the line `ldconfig /etc/ld.so.conf' Below is a unified diff ----8<------------------------------------------------------------------- diff -u /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/ldconfig/ldconfig.8 ldconfig/ldconfig.8 --- /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/ldconfig/ldconfig.8 Sun Aug 13 15:26:24 1995 +++ ldconfig/ldconfig.8 Wed Jul 24 16:45:25 1996 @@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm ldconfig .Op Fl mrsv -.Op Ar directory Ar ... +.Op Ar directory | file Ar ... .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm is used to prepare a set of @@ -56,6 +56,13 @@ .Xr ld.so would have to perform to load the required shared libraries. .Pp +Files named on the command line are expected to contain directories +to scan for shared libraries. Each directory must start on a new +line and blank lines and lines starting with the comment character +(`#') are ignored. A good name for this file would be +.Xr /etc/ld.so.conf. +The directories are treated as if they were entered on the command line. +.Pp The shared libraries so found will be automatically available for loading if needed by the program being prepared for execution. This obviates the need for storing search paths within the executable. @@ -121,6 +128,8 @@ .Sh FILES .Xr /var/run/ld.so.hints +.br +.Xr /etc/ld.so.conf .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr ld 1 , .Xr link 5 diff -u /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/ldconfig/ldconfig.c ldconfig/ldconfig.c --- /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/ldconfig/ldconfig.c Fri Aug 25 06:41:14 1995 +++ ldconfig/ldconfig.c Wed Jul 24 16:32:44 1996 @@ -103,7 +103,7 @@ verbose = 1; break; default: - errx(1, "Usage: %s [-m][-r][-s][-v][dir ...]", + errx(1, "Usage: %s [-m][-r][-s][-v][dir | file ...]", __progname); break; } @@ -124,8 +124,21 @@ for (i = 0; i < n_search_dirs; i++) rval |= dodir(search_dirs[i], 1); - for (i = optind; i < argc; i++) - rval |= dodir(argv[i], 0); + for (i = optind; i < argc; i++) { + struct stat stbuf; + + if (stat(argv[i], &stbuf) == -1) { + if (errno != ENOENT) + warn("%s", argv[i]); + continue; + } + + /* See if this is a file instead of a directory */ + if ((stbuf.st_mode & S_IFMT) == S_IFREG) + rval |= dofile(argv[i], 0); + else + rval |= dodir(argv[i], 0); + } rval |= buildhints(); @@ -133,6 +146,39 @@ } int +dofile(fname, silent) +char *fname; +int silent; +{ + FILE *hfp; + char buf[MAXPATHLEN]; + int rval = 0; + char *cp, *sp; + + if ((hfp = fopen(fname, "r")) == NULL) { + warn("%s", fname); + return -1; + } + + while (fgets(buf, sizeof(buf), hfp)) { + cp = buf; + while (*cp != '#' && *cp != '/' && *cp != '\0') + cp++; + if (*cp == '#' || *cp == '\0') + continue; + sp = cp; + while (!isspace(*cp) && *cp != '#' && *cp != '\0') + cp++; + *cp++ = '\0'; + + rval |= dodir(buf, silent); + } + + (void) fclose(hfp); + return rval; +} + +int dodir(dir, silent) char *dir; int silent; @@ -163,6 +209,7 @@ enter(dir, dp->d_name, name, dewey, ndewey); } + (void) closedir(dd); return 0; } ----8<------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Hans -- Hans Zuidam E-Mail: hans@brandinnovators.com Brand Innovators B.V. P-Mail: P.O. Box 1377 de Pinckart 54 5602 BJ Eindhoven, The Netherlands 5674 CC Nuenen Tel. +31 40 2631134, Fax. +31 40 2831138 From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 08:45:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA25883 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pdx1 (pdx1.world.net [192.243.32.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25877 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suburbia.net (suburbia.net [203.4.184.1]) by pdx1 (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA06626 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 08:46:30 -0700 Received: (proff@localhost) by suburbia.net (8.7.4/Proff-950810) id BAA17308 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 01:44:35 +1000 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 01:44:35 +1000 From: Julian Assange Message-Id: <199607241544.BAA17308@suburbia.net> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: anoncvs Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to set up an anonymous cvs service like openbsd is doing? this would be quite useful for a number of people, and encourage development. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 09:20:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA27531 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntserv.webleicester.co.uk (ntserv.webleicester.co.uk [206.249.75.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27526 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lansys41.webleicester.co.uk by ntserv.webleicester.co.uk (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id ta019649 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:20:17 +0100 Received: from LANSYS41/SpoolDir by lansys41.webleicester.co.uk (Mercury 1.21); 24 Jul 96 17:12:20 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by LANSYS41 (Mercury 1.22-b2); 24 Jul 96 17:12:11 +0000 From: "Phil E Taylor" Organization: Lan Systems To: "K.V.S. Sankaram" Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:12:09 GMT Subject: Re: "named" daemon Reply-to: phil@lansystems.co.uk CC: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42) Message-ID: <4841C9C1EFF@lansys41.webleicester.co.uk> X-Info: The Web Factory (Leicester) Electronic Mail System Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (not really a hackers issue is it ? usenet seems more appropriate.) named does not run by default, you need to tell it to run in sysconfig (as you appear to have done) and then create zone files to reflect your domain, if these files are not there then there could be an additional delay if telnet/ftp etc are trying to use a local (not setup) nameserver. Although I have never tried to run named without zone files !!! There are varions documents on the WWW regarding the correct syntax for zone files so I won't go into that here. If you are not running a LOCAL nameserver you just need an /etc/resolv.conf file containing the IP address of a functioning nameserver. > > * The "named" domain was not configured initially on my FREEBSD > machine. > > * After I configured it to run, by making changes in the > "/etc/sysconfig" file, commands like "arp -a", "netstat -r", "telnet", & "ftp" > are taking a lot of time to get executed. However, the "ifconfig -a" command > is getting executed immediately, as usual. I have not tested other network > related commands. So, I cannot say how they are getting executed, after > configuring "named". > > What is the reason for this change ? > > -- K.V.S. Sankaram > > > Phil Taylor Business : phil@lansystems.co.uk Personal : phil@taylor.org.uk LAN Systems - LAN/WAN Specialists Tel: (Direct Line) +44 (116) 223 0033 (Main Number) +44 (116) 255 9961 (Facsimile) +44 (116) 255 8861 150 London Road, Leicester, ENGLAND. LE2 1ND From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 09:30:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA27898 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27890 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id LAA14277; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:29:04 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199607241629.LAA14277@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: catching /etc/rc output To: hans@brandinnovators.com (Hans Zuidam) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:29:04 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607241503.RAA01095@truk.brandinnovators.com> from "Hans Zuidam" at Jul 24, 96 05:03:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > Is there a convenient way to direct all output from the /etc/rc scripts > to both the console and a file other than rewriting them? Scrollback > is not always sufficient especially after lengthy fsck output. Not that I'm aware of :-) At one point I had rewritten some of SunOS's startup scripts to redirect all output to a file, this was sorta useful. One could conceivably "tail -f" the file to the console to obtain functionality similar to what you ask for. The lazy among us might choose to use serial consoles instead, as it would allow another machine running kermit with a log file to maintain long term console records. The very lazy among us (i.e. me) might even plan to use a session manager such as screen to handle multiple consoles simultaneously, and also this provides remote console access. However the very lazy among us will have been talking about it rather than doing it for the last year or so. :-) There's always a more important fire burning.. ... JG From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 10:09:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA01273 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.tcsi.com (tcsi.com [137.134.47.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01267 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from draco.tcs.com (draco.tcs.com [137.134.40.2]) by gateway.tcsi.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23069; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cozumel.tcs.com (cozumel.tcs.com [137.134.104.12]) by draco.tcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18219; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:09:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Douglas Ambrisko Received: (ambrisko@localhost) by cozumel.tcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id KAA25789; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:09:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199607241709.KAA25789@cozumel.tcs.com> Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms To: jleppek@suw2k.hisd.harris.com (James Leppek) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, erich@lodgenet.com In-Reply-To: <9607241251.AA26234@suw2k.hisd.harris.com> from "James Leppek" at Jul 24, 96 08:51:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Leppek writes: | | I have the torito specs and started looking into it until I ran out of | CD's which are getting very hard to find and if you do the price has | really gone up. So when you start playing make sure you have a box or | 2 on hand :-) This is why I like how "real" UNIX boxes handle CD's like a real drive. When I made various custom boot CD's I would do everything on a hard drive and then just dd the hard drive to the burner. Unfortunately PC's are not that nice. Doug A. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 10:20:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA02012 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baygate.bayarea.net (baygate.bayarea.net [204.71.212.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02007 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcnab@localhost) by baygate.bayarea.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA21279; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:13:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:13:06 -0700 From: David McNab Message-Id: <199607241713.KAA21279@baygate.bayarea.net> To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com CC: hans@brandinnovators.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607241629.LAA14277@brasil.moneng.mei.com> (message from Joe Greco on Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:29:04 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: catching /etc/rc output Reply-to: David McNab Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |> Is there a convenient way to direct all output from the /etc/rc scripts |> to both the console and a file other than rewriting them? Scrollback |> is not always sufficient especially after lengthy fsck output. | |Not that I'm aware of :-) | |At one point I had rewritten some of SunOS's startup scripts to redirect all |output to a file, this was sorta useful. One could conceivably "tail -f" |the file to the console to obtain functionality similar to what you ask for. C'mon. Everyone knows that real hackers use a console teletype 8^). (Hmm, let's see... adb /unix... just tweak this one little memory location... chatter chatter chatter... uh oh...) -- Dave McNab From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 10:38:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA02967 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunny.bog.msu.su (sunny.bog.msu.su [158.250.20.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02961 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dima@localhost) by sunny.bog.msu.su (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA22051; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:31:08 +0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:31:05 +0400 (????) From: Dmitry Khrustalev To: hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.ORG cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: NFS crash In-Reply-To: <199607232225.PAA19827@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone seen this problem? > > > I have a problem with nfs mounting a freebsd machine from a Sun. I > > have set it up just like it says FreeBSD handbook. It lets the Sun > > mount the freeBSD drive. It lets me cd to the mount point, but when I > > do a "ls", the freeBSD machine crashes. Have you ever seen this > > problem? Please give me a call. > > The errorthat is left on the bsd machine before it crashes is: Panic: > > ufs_ihashget:recursive lock not expected -- pid86 > Yes. solaris 2.5 uses readdirplus and it is broken in freebsd. Look at VOP_VGET in nfs_serv.c:2913. -Dima. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 12:08:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07120 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07114 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA03500; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:07:49 -0700 (PDT) To: "K.V.S. Sankaram" cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "named" daemon In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:59:29 -0800." Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:07:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3498.838235269@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * The "named" domain was not configured initially on my FREEBSD > machine. Nor has it ever been. If you want to run a DNS server, that much has to be done by hand - all the install deals with is the *client* setup. > What is the reason for this change ? change? jordan From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 12:49:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10970 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10956 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA01813; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607241949.NAA01813@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Julian Assange Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anoncvs In-Reply-To: <199607241544.BAA17308@suburbia.net> References: <199607241544.BAA17308@suburbia.net> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is it possible to set up an anonymous cvs service like openbsd is doing? > this would be quite useful for a number of people, and encourage development. Since you can already get the *entire* CVS source tree, this doesn't buy you anything. If you are a developer, then you should already have the disk space available for the selected portions of the tree you are working on, so you should be able to get the *actual* CVS tree. OpenBSD doesn't use SUP/CTM, so they use CVS instead. Nate From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 13:15:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12626 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cd.iidpwr.com ([204.33.177.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12613 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tam@localhost) by cd.iidpwr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA23706; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:17:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:17:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Tam To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: hylafax-3.0.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could anybody tell me where is the faxsetup script? And could anybody tell me where is the short-cut documentation for setting up the hylafax-3.0.1 for FreeBSD? Or is it available? I have tried http://www.vix.com, but the documentation is for other Unix operating system. Yours truly, Tony Tam +------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Tony Tam | Imperial Irrigation District | | Imperial Irrigation District | 333 E. Barioni Blvd. | | email: tam@cd.iidpwr.com | P.O. BOX 937 | | tel: (619) 339 9454 | Imperial, CA 92251 | | fax: (619) 339 9189 | U.S.A. | +------------------------------+--------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 13:56:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15399 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15386; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA11446; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:03:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:03:41 -0400 Message-Id: <199607242103.RAA11446@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: msqlperl for FreeBSD Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone using msqlperl on a freebsd system? When I try to build it complains about libmisc.a, which I cant find anywhere. Any ideas would be appreciated. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 14:05:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16099 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usa1.moneyworld.com ([208.129.19.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16082 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:05:46 -0700 (PDT) From: chag@moneyworld.com Message-Id: <199607242105.OAA16082@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Reply-to: Subject: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk http://chancellor.stockpick.com Chancellor Group, Inc. (symbol CHAG) just reported big quarterly earnings and announced a 1-for-2 stock dividend payable July 31. I understand investment advisors are issuing a "buy" recommendation for CHAG. The company has a strong book value. This looks like a good situation to me. What do you think? They are located at: http://chancellor.stockpick.com Bob Williams, 206-269-0846 To terminate from my Investment Opportunities, Reply to chag@moneyworld.com with "remove" in the subject field. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 14:31:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17805 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17797 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00858 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:31:41 +0200 (MET DST) To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: DEVFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:22:40 PDT." <199607242122.OAA17286@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:31:40 +0200 Message-ID: <856.838243900@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I made the follwing changes, and now I can boot on devfs. That is, It screws up right after the adjkerntz because the vnode locking seems to be hosed, but hey, we're getting further down the road. I would love if somebody would help me get us to the point where DEVFS can at least be a valid option for the adventurous, anybody have a little time on their hands ? This is to get init to mount DEVFS. Keep a kernel without DEVFS on your disk, in which case this is a no-op and your system still works. Index: init.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/init/init.c,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 init.c --- init.c 1995/11/10 07:06:59 1.11 +++ init.c 1996/07/24 13:53:08 @@ -45,6 +45,7 @@ #endif /* not lint */ #include +#include #include #include @@ -192,6 +193,9 @@ (void)fprintf(stderr, "init: already running\n"); exit (1); } + + /* Try to mount devfs */ + mount(MOUNT_DEVFS, "/dev", MNT_NOEXEC|MNT_RDONLY, 0); /* * Note that this does NOT open a file... This is because the slice code doesn't register any devices with DEVFS until they are opened. This is pretty damn stupid in my oppinion, because I have no way of opening something I dont have a device-node for, do I ? Index: wd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/wd.c,v retrieving revision 1.112 diff -u -r1.112 wd.c --- wd.c 1996/07/23 21:51:46 1.112 +++ wd.c 1996/07/24 14:53:47 @@ -514,6 +514,24 @@ wd_registerdev(dvp->id_unit, lunit); #ifdef DEVFS mynor = dkmakeminor(unit, WHOLE_DISK_SLICE, RAW_PART); + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_bdevsw, 0x50004, + DV_BLK, UID_ROOT, + GID_OPERATOR, 0640, + "wd%ds4e", unit); + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_cdevsw, 0x50004, + DV_CHR, UID_ROOT, + GID_OPERATOR, 0640, + "rwd%ds4e", unit); + + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_bdevsw, 0, + DV_BLK, UID_ROOT, + GID_OPERATOR, 0640, + "wd%da", unit); + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_cdevsw, 0, + DV_CHR, UID_ROOT, + GID_OPERATOR, 0640, + "rwd%da", unit); + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_bdevsw, mynor, DV_BLK, UID_ROOT, GID_OPERATOR, 0640, -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 14:51:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19119 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19082 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id RAA00956; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Nate Williams cc: Julian Assange , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anoncvs In-Reply-To: <199607241949.NAA01813@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > Is it possible to set up an anonymous cvs service like openbsd is doing? > > this would be quite useful for a number of people, and encourage development. > > Since you can already get the *entire* CVS source tree, this doesn't buy > you anything. If you are a developer, then you should already have the > disk space available for the selected portions of the tree you are > working on, so you should be able to get the *actual* CVS tree. > > OpenBSD doesn't use SUP/CTM, so they use CVS instead. > I've had users ask me fo rthis for the postgres95 repository, and the argument they used was tha twith CVS, they don't have to deal with having *(their* changes overwritten, cvs will merge the new changes from the repository in with the changes they have made... Can sup do this? Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 14:52:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19219 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19214 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28669; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:50:18 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607242150.OAA28669@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) To: chag@moneyworld.com Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:50:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607242105.OAA16082@freefall.freebsd.org> from "chag@moneyworld.com" at Jul 24, 96 02:05:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that chag@moneyworld.com said: [why waste time quoting the spam???] Is it worth the effort to hack majordomo to support a "can't post" list? (i.e. disallow posts from these addresses and/or domains? > To terminate from my Investment Opportunities, Reply to > chag@moneyworld.com with "remove" in the subject field. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 14:55:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19371 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19360 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02423; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:54:54 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:54:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607242154.PAA02423@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anoncvs In-Reply-To: References: <199607241949.NAA01813@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Anon CVS ]> > > I've had users ask me fo rthis for the postgres95 repository, > and the argument they used was tha twith CVS, they don't have to deal > with having *(their* changes overwritten, cvs will merge the new changes > from the repository in with the changes they have made... > > Can sup do this? If they SUP the CVS tree and don't expect to use the CVS tree locally except for testingt, yes. Almost all of the FreeeBSD developers do this exact thing as your pstgres developers are asking. Heck, I'm doing it now with un-tested PC-CARD/APM changes even as we speak, and CVS keeps them up to date for me as other changes go in. Nate From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:00:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19655 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19644 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id SAA01080; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:01:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anoncvs In-Reply-To: <199607242154.PAA02423@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > [ Anon CVS ]> > > > I've had users ask me fo rthis for the postgres95 repository, > > and the argument they used was tha twith CVS, they don't have to deal > > with having *(their* changes overwritten, cvs will merge the new changes > > from the repository in with the changes they have made... > > > > Can sup do this? > > If they SUP the CVS tree and don't expect to use the CVS tree locally > except for testingt, yes. Almost all of the FreeeBSD developers do this > exact thing as your pstgres developers are asking. Ahhh, okay, now I understand wha tyuo mean...yes, to me thi sdoes act as an acceptable solution to anoncvs, thanks :) Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:01:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19763 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19756 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA16211; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:01:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: Nate Williams , Julian Assange , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: anoncvs In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:49:23 EDT." Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:01:07 -0400 Message-ID: <16207.838245667@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Marc G. Fournier" wrote in message ID : > I've had users ask me fo rthis for the postgres95 repository, > and the argument they used was tha twith CVS, they don't have to deal > with having *(their* changes overwritten, cvs will merge the new changes > from the repository in with the changes they have made... > Can sup do this? CTM does, as you copy the repository to your machine and then you can do everything anoncvs does basically. SUP does too, if you allow them to sup the repository. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:09:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20251 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.100.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20245; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu (waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.100.23]) by dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.1) with ESMTP id PAA11237; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.0) with SMTP id PAA19804; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: chat@freebsd.org Reply-To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:05:46 PDT." <199607242105.OAA16082@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <19800.838246172.1@waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:32 PDT Message-ID: <19802.838246172@waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu> From: faried nawaz Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk chag@moneyworld.com wrote... http://chancellor.stockpick.com Chancellor Group, Inc. (symbol CHAG) just reported big quarterly earnings and announced a 1-for-2 stock dividend payable July 31. I understand investment advisors are issuing a "buy" recommendation for CHAG. The company has a strong book value. This looks like a good situation to me. What do you think? They are located at: http://chancellor.stockpick.com Bob Williams, 206-269-0846 To terminate from my Investment Opportunities, Reply to chag@moneyworld.com with "remove" in the subject field. a lot of people in my domain (uidaho.edu) got hit by this person over the previous few days. i mailed postmaster@moneyworld.com, this address, and the nic contact for moneyworld.com (which, incidentally is bob williams); my mail bounced or wasn't replied to. i also could not get myself taken off the above-mentioned list using the mentioned instructions. what can be done about people like this? faried. (reply-to set to chat) From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:15:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20557 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kechara.flame.org (kechara.flame.org [192.80.44.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20552 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from explorer@localhost) by kechara.flame.org (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA27953; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:14:27 -0400 (EDT) To: Don Yuniskis Cc: chag@moneyworld.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) References: <199607242150.OAA28669@seagull.rtd.com> From: Michael Graff Date: 24 Jul 1996 18:14:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: Don Yuniskis's message of Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:50:18 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.36/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Don Yuniskis writes: > [why waste time quoting the spam???] This same idiot has mailed to THOUSANDS of lists. I suggest either a sniper or a nuke. He seems to think I should REQUEST NOT to be on his damned list. His voice mail is always full, his machine doesn't seem to accept mail. I hope he knows that he's not winning points with this advertising thing. --Michael From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:16:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20618 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lestat.nas.nasa.gov (lestat.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.50.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20613 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lestat.nas.nasa.gov (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA11368; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607242209.PAA11368@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: lestat.nas.nasa.gov: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: Nate Williams , Julian Assange , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anoncvs Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:48 -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:49:23 -0400 (EDT) "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > I've had users ask me fo rthis for the postgres95 repository, > and the argument they used was tha twith CVS, they don't have to deal > with having *(their* changes overwritten, cvs will merge the new changes > from the repository in with the changes they have made... > > Can sup do this? No, it can't (well, there is the "backup" option...), however... In my opinion, if the user wants to mantain changes across releases of a code base, then they should import that code base into _their own_ repository. Using anoncvs to maintain local changes is just an exercise in poor source code management. What anoncvs _is_ useful for, IMO, is reading logs and viewing diffs. This is quite feasible with FreeBSD's current offerings (especiall the cvsweb stuff...) -- save the ancient forests - http://www.bayarea.net/~thorpej/forest/ -- Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Home: 408.866.1912 NAS: M/S 258-6 Work: 415.604.0935 Moffett Field, CA 94035 Pager: 415.428.6939 From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:23:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20937 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20930 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01696; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:20:45 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607242220.PAA01696@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) To: explorer@flame.org (Michael Graff) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:20:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: dgy@rtd.com, chag@moneyworld.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Michael Graff" at Jul 24, 96 06:14:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > [why waste time quoting the spam???] > > This same idiot has mailed to THOUSANDS of lists. I suggest either a > sniper or a nuke. > > He seems to think I should REQUEST NOT to be on his damned list. His voice > mail is always full, his machine doesn't seem to accept mail. I hope he > knows that he's not winning points with this advertising thing. Hence my suggestion to tweek majordomo to implement the equivalent of a kill file. From previous discussions, it appears that restricting posts only to subscribers is a bit draconian and hurts those who have serious questions but don't subscribe. So, perhaps the opposite appraoch of just bouncing any incoming messages from the address and/or domain. I imagine such a hack would be welcomed in the general majordomo distribution... --don From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:24:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21034 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21029; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA17490; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:24:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: chat@freebsd.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:32 PDT." <19802.838246172@waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:24:08 -0400 Message-ID: <17487.838247048@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk faried nawaz wrote in message ID <19802.838246172@waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu>: > chag@moneyworld.com wrote... > what can be done about people like this? Try complaining to their provider. They have at least one link going to BBN PlaNet in Palo Alto, California. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:30:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21289 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21284 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02701; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:30:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:30:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607242230.QAA02701@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: chag@moneyworld.com Subject: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) In-Reply-To: References: <199607242150.OAA28669@seagull.rtd.com> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My suggestion is to add this person to *ALL* our mailing lists. I think we generate enough traffic to make a dent in is network, and given that he added our address to his list I htink adding him to our lists is only appropriate. Turn-about *IS* fair play! Nate (If that's not acceptable, then a couple of 'well-connected' individuals could forward all freebsd related material to him, thus accomplishing the same task) From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:33:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21469 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21462 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA21983; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.whistle.com(207.76.205.74) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma021981; Wed Jul 24 15:32:39 1996 Received: (from julian@localhost) by shrimp.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA07400; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:32:39 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607242232.PAA07400@shrimp.whistle.com> Subject: Re: DEVFS To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <856.838243900@critter.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Jul 24, 96 11:31:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Ok, I made the follwing changes, and now I can boot on devfs. That > is, It screws up right after the adjkerntz because the vnode locking > seems to be hosed, but hey, we're getting further down the road. > > I would love if somebody would help me get us to the point where > DEVFS can at least be a valid option for the adventurous, anybody > have a little time on their hands ? > I have good news.. It has just been decided here at whistle by the guy that tells me what to do next, that we need devfs, and that I should spend some time on it :) :) :) > This is to get init to mount DEVFS. Keep a kernel without DEVFS > on your disk, in which case this is a no-op and your system still > works. the next thing to do is allow a fifofs node to be added to devfs. I'll try do that this week.. that fixes the syslog problem and also I think it's important to allow symlinks.. they are defined but not implimented in devfs. > now, for the changes.... > Index: init.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/init/init.c,v > retrieving revision 1.11 > diff -u -r1.11 init.c > --- init.c 1995/11/10 07:06:59 1.11 > +++ init.c 1996/07/24 13:53:08 > @@ -45,6 +45,7 @@ > #endif /* not lint */ > > #include > +#include > #include > #include > > @@ -192,6 +193,9 @@ > (void)fprintf(stderr, "init: already running\n"); > exit (1); > } > + > + /* Try to mount devfs */ > + mount(MOUNT_DEVFS, "/dev", MNT_NOEXEC|MNT_RDONLY, 0); ok, that's a good start. You can even do it later than that.. in /etc/fstab is almost good enough.. I was actually wondering if it could be done at the same time as / is mounted.. > > /* > * Note that this does NOT open a file... > > This is because the slice code doesn't register any devices with > DEVFS until they are opened. This is pretty damn stupid in my > oppinion, because I have no way of opening something I dont have > a device-node for, do I ? > > Index: wd.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/wd.c,v > retrieving revision 1.112 > diff -u -r1.112 wd.c > --- wd.c 1996/07/23 21:51:46 1.112 > +++ wd.c 1996/07/24 14:53:47 > @@ -514,6 +514,24 @@ > wd_registerdev(dvp->id_unit, lunit); > #ifdef DEVFS > mynor = dkmakeminor(unit, WHOLE_DISK_SLICE, RAW_PART); > + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_bdevsw, 0x50004, > + DV_BLK, UID_ROOT, > + GID_OPERATOR, 0640, > + "wd%ds4e", unit); > + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_cdevsw, 0x50004, > + DV_CHR, UID_ROOT, > + GID_OPERATOR, 0640, > + "rwd%ds4e", unit); > + > + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_bdevsw, 0, > + DV_BLK, UID_ROOT, > + GID_OPERATOR, 0640, > + "wd%da", unit); > + du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_cdevsw, 0, > + DV_CHR, UID_ROOT, > + GID_OPERATOR, 0640, > + "rwd%da", unit); > + > du->dk_bdev = devfs_add_devswf(&wd_bdevsw, mynor, > DV_BLK, UID_ROOT, > GID_OPERATOR, 0640, why not make init try open the raw device from which root is mounted? e.g. if root is the minor that coresponds to wd0a then open the minor that coresponds to wd0 etc. > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. > http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. > whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. > Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. > From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:34:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21515 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21508 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xsvr2.cup.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA131727672; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:34:32 -0700 Received: by xsvr2.cup.hp.com (1.39.111.2/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA015097672; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:34:32 -0700 From: "Josef C. Grosch" Message-Id: <9607241534.ZM1506@xsvr2.cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:34:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: Michael Graff "Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG)" (Jul 24, 6:14pm) References: <199607242150.OAA28669@seagull.rtd.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: Michael Graff Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jul 24, 6:14pm, Michael Graff wrote: > Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) > Don Yuniskis writes: > > > [why waste time quoting the spam???] > > This same idiot has mailed to THOUSANDS of lists. I suggest either a > sniper or a nuke. > > He seems to think I should REQUEST NOT to be on his damned list. His voice > mail is always full, his machine doesn't seem to accept mail. I hope he > knows that he's not winning points with this advertising thing. > > --Michael >-- End of excerpt from Michael Graff Looks like the return of Canter & Seigal. :-( I've sent email to this clowns address and to root and postmaster at his site. Has not bonced, yet. Hacking Majordomo to disallow address and/or domains might be worth it. Josef -- Josef Grosch, 47LG4 | "Laugh while you can, | My opinions are mine, not jgrosch@cup.hp.com | monkey boy!" | HPs. They have'nt paid for (408) 447-0467 | - John Warfin - | them yet ! :-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:34:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21535 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21523 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA05431; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:33:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Jason Thorpe cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , Nate Williams , Julian Assange , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anoncvs In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:09:48 PDT." <199607242209.PAA11368@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:33:09 -0700 Message-ID: <5429.838247589@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Can sup do this? > > No, it can't (well, there is the "backup" option...), however... > > In my opinion, if the user wants to mantain changes across releases of a > code base, then they should import that code base into _their own_ > repository. Using anoncvs to maintain local changes is just an exercise > in poor source code management. Though it's not entirely unreasonable to expect that changes you make on your own branches using a single CVS repository should not be touched, and this is in fact that cvsup is for. Now if we can only get John to release it more widely. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:41:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22023 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22017; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01342; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:41:01 +0200 (MET DST) To: Michael Graff cc: Don Yuniskis , chag@moneyworld.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) In-reply-to: Your message of "24 Jul 1996 18:14:27 EDT." Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:41:01 +0200 Message-ID: <1340.838248061@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Michael Graff writes: >Don Yuniskis writes: > >> [why waste time quoting the spam???] > >This same idiot has mailed to THOUSANDS of lists. I suggest either a >sniper or a nuke. > >He seems to think I should REQUEST NOT to be on his damned list. His voice >mail is always full, his machine doesn't seem to accept mail. I hope he >knows that he's not winning points with this advertising thing. Well, if sufficienly many f00ls do react, he wins, and being a broker for CHAG, he probably doesn't have that many friends to loose in the first place :-( -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:43:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22140 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22131 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA22032; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.whistle.com(207.76.205.74) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022028; Wed Jul 24 15:43:11 1996 Received: (from julian@localhost) by shrimp.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA07491; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:43:11 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607242243.PAA07491@shrimp.whistle.com> Subject: Re: anoncvs To: thorpej@nas.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: scrappy@ki.net, nate@mt.sri.com, proff@suburbia.net, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607242209.PAA11368@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> from "Jason Thorpe" at Jul 24, 96 03:09:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > cvsweb stuff...) hmm I've missed something here... what cvsweb stuff? julian From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:46:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22269 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22252; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01360; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:45:57 +0200 (MET DST) To: Julian Elischer cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DEVFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:32:39 PDT." <199607242232.PAA07400@shrimp.whistle.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:45:56 +0200 Message-ID: <1358.838248356@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I have good news.. >It has just been decided here at whistle by the guy that tells me >what to do next, that we need devfs, and that I should spend some time >on it :) :) :) Good! >> This is to get init to mount DEVFS. Keep a kernel without DEVFS >> on your disk, in which case this is a no-op and your system still >> works. > the next thing to do is allow a fifofs node to be added to devfs. >I'll try do that this week.. that fixes >the syslog problem >and also I think it's important to allow symlinks.. >they are defined but not implimented in devfs. I think we should try to get the refcounts and locks on [vi]nodes right first :-/ If I never get further than I do now, it doesn't really matter with syslogd :-( >why not make init try open the raw device >from which root is mounted? because that would be a horrible kludge. The attach routine in the bdevs' should call something like "dsdevfs" or something that would examine the disk and make the device nodes as available. My interest in this btw, is a generic geometry handling for all bdevs that would want it, which would make that particular change unneeded again. Maybe for now the slice code should just register all the nodes that makes sense... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:48:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22432 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22426 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15630(2)>; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:47:53 PDT Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177482>; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:47:37 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: Subramaniam Vincent cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP router alert option In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:45:51 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:47:24 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Jul24.154737pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message you wri te: >Does any of the current releases support the Router Alert IP option ? If you just want to send packets with the Router Alert IP option, then just do it. You don't need any kernel support, just use setsockopt(). FreeBSD-current as of 3/14/96 #define's IPOPT_RA in /usr/include/netinet/ip.h . Bill From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:50:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22528 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22521 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19127; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:50:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Nate Williams cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chag@moneyworld.com From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:30:07 MDT." <199607242230.QAA02701@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:50:20 -0400 Message-ID: <19123.838248620@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote in message ID <199607242230.QAA02701@rocky.mt.sri.com>: > My suggestion is to add this person to *ALL* our mailing lists. I think > we generate enough traffic to make a dent in is network, and given that > he added our address to his list I htink adding him to our lists is only > appropriate. > Turn-about *IS* fair play! Won't matter... his gateway isn't accepting e-mail. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:51:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22580 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22574 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04033; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:48:33 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607242248.PAA04033@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:48:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: explorer@flame.org, dgy@rtd.com, chag@moneyworld.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1340.838248061@critter.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Jul 25, 96 00:41:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> [why waste time quoting the spam???] > > > >This same idiot has mailed to THOUSANDS of lists. I suggest either a > >sniper or a nuke. > > Well, if sufficienly many f00ls do react, he wins, and being a broker > for CHAG, he probably doesn't have that many friends to loose in the > first place :-( I don't see how he "wins" anything! If he's trying to peddle something, he's bound not to get much business by lots of folks being annoyed with him. And, if he gets enough "noise" in his inbox, he'll have to spend time/resources trying to locate any "signal" that might be there... Personally, I just set up a filter to shitcan stuff from that domain. I would have thought moving this filter up a level (i.e. into the list processor) might be more beneficial... From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 15:56:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22791 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22786 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04750; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:56:08 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607242256.PAA04750@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:56:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chag@moneyworld.com In-Reply-To: <199607242230.QAA02701@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Jul 24, 96 04:30:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > My suggestion is to add this person to *ALL* our mailing lists. I think > we generate enough traffic to make a dent in is network, and given that > he added our address to his list I htink adding him to our lists is only > appropriate. > > Turn-about *IS* fair play! Sh*t! Sometimes the obvious solutions just pass us by! :> > (If that's not acceptable, then a couple of 'well-connected' individuals could > forward all freebsd related material to him, thus accomplishing the same > task) (though I prefered my idea of mailing him a uuencoded kernel -- actually, probably should `split` it into tiny chunks so it looks more like real mail -- for every incoming message received... from *anyone*! :>) Apologies... this is my last post to -hackers as this thread rightfully belongs on chat... <:-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 16:06:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23177 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lestat.nas.nasa.gov (lestat.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.50.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23172 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lestat.nas.nasa.gov (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA11803; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607242300.QAA11803@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: lestat.nas.nasa.gov: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Julian Elischer Cc: scrappy@ki.net, nate@mt.sri.com, proff@suburbia.net, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anoncvs Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:00:06 -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Julian Elischer wrote: > hmm I've missed something here... > what cvsweb stuff? FreeBSD's WWW server has this neato WWW interface to CVS. I've been meaning to bug Bill about it some more so we over at NetBSD can think about something similar :-) -- save the ancient forests - http://www.bayarea.net/~thorpej/forest/ -- Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Home: 408.866.1912 NAS: M/S 258-6 Work: 415.604.0935 Moffett Field, CA 94035 Pager: 415.428.6939 From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 16:24:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23902 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23897 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id QAA01921 for hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:24:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:24:26 -0700 From: Sean Eric Fagan Message-Id: <199607242324.QAA01921@kithrup.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: This Chancellor Group spam Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay, look, folks... first of all, I think it's a fair bet to say that I've got the most experience dealing with this type of crap ;). Second: the moneyworld spam has been going on for a long, long time. As a result, by the time he got kicked off of his fourth or fifth IP provider, he no longer accepted email on his system. Third: he currently has two IP providers, BBN Planet and MCI. MCI says they will terminate his access on August 21 or 23 (I forget which exactly, sorry). They claim they cannot do so earlier due to contractual reasons. (However, they are also looking into other ways to deal with this.) Note that the Web site he is pllugging is hooked up to Best. As a result, complain to Best, BBN Planet, and MCI -- postmaster@best.net, postmaster@bbnplanet.net, and abuse@mci.net. Fourth: For this particular one, there's another address that some people have suggested: enforcement@sec.gov. That's the Securities and Exchange Commission, part of the US Gov't. I would suggest no more than one note to them. If you're *really* angry, call teh SEC and voice a complaint -- there is a reasonable chance that what this guy is doing is illegal in the eyes of teh SEC, which would mean lots of problems for him. In the meanwhile, you can install procmail on your FreeBSD system as the local mail deliveryagent by replacing the Mlocal lines with: Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/procmail, F=lsDFMrmn, S=10, R=20/40, A=procmail -a $h -d $u Then, in $HOME/.procmailrc, you can put something like: :0: * ^From:.*moneyworld.com |mail -s "stop this crap now" abuse@mci.net I also, when I saw this message on the hackers list, sent a note to postmaster@freebsd.org asking them to block this at the sendmail level, if they could. In the meanwhile, PLEASE DON'T DISCUSS THIS ON THE LIST. (I know I'm violating that request here, but since I mention ways to work around it, that involve hacking yoru freebsd system, I think it's at least marginally relevant ;).) Sean. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 16:35:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24397 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24390 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from modem.eng.umd.edu (modem.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.187]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24231; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 19:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by modem.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA07333; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 19:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 19:35:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@modem.eng.umd.edu To: Nate Williams cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chag@moneyworld.com Subject: Re: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) In-Reply-To: <199607242230.QAA02701@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > My suggestion is to add this person to *ALL* our mailing lists. I think > we generate enough traffic to make a dent in is network, and given that > he added our address to his list I htink adding him to our lists is only > appropriate. > > Turn-about *IS* fair play! Oh, that's good! 2 points, Nate! > Nate > > (If that's not acceptable, then a couple of 'well-connected' individuals could > forward all freebsd related material to him, thus accomplishing the same > task) > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 16:45:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25159 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25151; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:45:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607242345.QAA25151@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) To: dgy@rtd.com (Don Yuniskis) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: explorer@flame.org, dgy@rtd.com, chag@moneyworld.com, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607242220.PAA01696@seagull.rtd.com> from "Don Yuniskis" at Jul 24, 96 03:20:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk they have joined the list of 3 others who are barred from all FreeBSD mailing lists. not too bad. 4 losers in 16 months. jmb ps. hacked majordomo a while ago for this ;) 950615 Don Yuniskis wrote: > > > > [why waste time quoting the spam???] > > > > This same idiot has mailed to THOUSANDS of lists. I suggest either a > > sniper or a nuke. > > > > He seems to think I should REQUEST NOT to be on his damned list. His voice > > mail is always full, his machine doesn't seem to accept mail. I hope he > > knows that he's not winning points with this advertising thing. > > Hence my suggestion to tweek majordomo to implement the equivalent of a > kill file. From previous discussions, it appears that restricting posts > only to subscribers is a bit draconian and hurts those who have serious > questions but don't subscribe. So, perhaps the opposite appraoch of > just bouncing any incoming messages from the address and/or domain. > I imagine such a hack would be welcomed in the general majordomo > distribution... > > --don > From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 16:49:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25458 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25453; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA20437; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:44:13 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607242344.QAA20437@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: X.25 revisited To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:44:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607182313.TAA26901@etinc.com> from "Dennis" at Jul 18, 96 07:13:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We've just finished re-vamping X.25 for FreeBSD, and now that its a > nice clean interface, I want to evaluate possibly modifying the ccitt > stuff to work with our LAPB and X.25 stuff. The questions that I > have are: > > 1) Is this worthwhile? Is it a well-done interface, or does it need to be > reworked completely? > > 2) Is there a terminal server type application available for that interface > so X.25 users dialing into a network could access the FreeBSD system, > or does this need to be built? I believe you are looking for an X.29 PAD. I don't think one is there (the ISODE stuff *might* have one, but I don't remember seeing it). You will probably need to hack your own. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 16:57:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25821 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25815; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:57:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607242357.QAA25815@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) To: dgy@rtd.com (Don Yuniskis) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: phk@critter.tfs.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607242248.PAA04033@seagull.rtd.com> from "Don Yuniskis" at Jul 24, 96 03:48:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Aspen:[145] whois moneyworld.com Financial Connections, Inc (MONEYWORLD-DOM) 2508 5th Ave, #104 Seattle, WA 98121 Domain Name: MONEYWORLD.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact: Williams, Bob (BW747) willie@MONEYWORLD.COM 206 269 0846 Record last updated on 09-Jul-96. Record created on 26-Oct-95. Domain servers in listed order: NS.MONEYWORLD.COM 205.227.174.6 NSS.MONEYWORLD.COM 205.227.174.9 NSU.MONEYWORLD.COM 208.129.19.96 The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. Non-authoritative answer: moneyworld.com preference = 10, mail exchanger = nss.moneyworld.com moneyworld.com preference = 20, mail exchanger = ns.moneyworld.com Authoritative answers can be found from: moneyworld.com nameserver = ns.moneyworld.com moneyworld.com nameserver = nss.moneyworld.com moneyworld.com nameserver = NSU.moneyworld.com nss.moneyworld.com internet address = 205.227.174.9 ns.moneyworld.com internet address = 205.227.174.6 NSU.moneyworld.com internet address = 208.129.19.96 > Aspen:[147] telnet nss.moneyworld.com Trying 205.227.174.9... Connected to nss.moneyworld.com. Escape character is '^]'. UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0 (nss) login: Connection closed by foreign host. Aspen:[148] telnet ns.moneyworld.com Trying 205.227.174.6... Connected to ns.moneyworld.com. Escape character is '^]'. UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0 (ns) login: traceroute ns.moneyworld.com. 8 borderx1-fddi0-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.2.164) 944.976 ms 9 barrnet.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.158.102) 1074.236 ms 10 paloalto-cr8.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.208) 1224.991 ms 11 fconnections.bbnplanet.net (131.119.35.90) 525.008 ms 12 205.227.174.6 (205.227.174.6) 1275.013 ms From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 17:08:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA26325 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26318 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA20509; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:04:37 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607250004.RAA20509@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Be goes FreeBSD :-) To: troyc@sandy.merix.com (Troy Curtiss) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:04:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Troy Curtiss" at Jul 21, 96 01:36:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As Thomas Graichen wisely stated: > > wow: > > > > graichen@mordillo:~> telnet www.be.com > > Trying 140.174.204.94... > > Connected to www.be.com. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > > FreeBSD (www.be.com) (ttyp0) > > > > login: > > > > So.... who's gonna port FreeBSD over to the Be-Box, it looks > like they already know who we are :) (Terry??) Check out > http://www.be.com , looks like a really cool chunk of hardware > to do SMP on PPC using BSD ;) I have a developer ID from Be, Inc., and have had email exchanges with Jean Louis Gassee about a BSD port; they are all for it. One of the big issues on the port is cross tools and boot capture; if you are on their "Be Developer News" mailing list, then you have seen the recent posting (1 or 2 weeks ago) to the news list on "how to write boot code". Another big issue that the second 603 is in place of an L2 cache. This means the cache coherency model is MEI instead of MESI. The current SMP work is not sufficiently abstracted from the Intel model to let a port happen. This was really hanging out there based on single processor startup. Unfortunately, no one seems to want to go for a HAL to aid portability in the first place, and an SMP HAL is harder than a UP HAL because you must abstract kernel entrancy interfaces and generalize them. The final big issue is that they are using Apple's object file format for their binaries. There is a Linux port in progress -- you can download the boot disk from the www.linuxppc.com web site. Be has basically agreed to support a port; I just have not had time to follow it up adequately (by buying a machine at the developer discount). My real work has been taking a lot of time lately, and the Motorolla PPC using the PPCBug firmware has been a bear, and I'm comitted to that before any other ports. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 18:09:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29385 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chunga.apana.org.au (chunga.kt.apana.org.au [202.12.89.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29366; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from davo@localhost) by chunga.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA21769; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:38:11 +0930 (CST) From: Dave Edwards Message-Id: <199607250108.KAA21769@chunga.apana.org.au> Subject: Setup of serial ports To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:38:10 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Can someone settle an argument for me :) We run FreeBSD 2.1-stable on our dialin box with 38 ports using a 4 port card and 2 cy16 cards. We run all our ports locked at 38400 for a number of reasons. We run mgetty on the ports and its going well with a couple of minor irritations like sliplogin hanging around after line drops sometimes. We've setup the ports like so: ------ snip from /etc/rc.serial comcontrol /dev/ttyd0 dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 comcontrol /dev/ttyd1 dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 comcontrol /dev/ttyd2 dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 comcontrol /dev/ttyd3 dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 comcontrol /dev/ttyd4 dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 comcontrol /dev/ttyd5 dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 for u in 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0a 0b 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f do comcontrol /dev/ttyc$u dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 stty -f /dev/ttyic$u hupcl crtscts -clocal 38400 stty -f /dev/ttylc$u hupcl crtscts -clocal 38400 stty -f /dev/cuaic$u hupcl crtscts -clocal 38400 stty -f /dev/cualc$u hupcl crtscts -clocal 38400 done ----------- I've been told that the lock-state device needs to be set clocal and not -clocal. Is this true and if so why? ciao dave -- Dave Edwards davo@chunga.kt.apana.org.au || davo@sa.apana.org.au Adelaide, South Australia ---- From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 18:20:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29977 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nanotsu.kobe-u.ac.jp (nanotsu.kobe-u.ac.jp [133.30.10.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29933; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from oka@localhost) by nanotsu.kobe-u.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb3/3.3W9) id KAA27193; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:21:05 +0900 Message-Id: <199607250121.KAA27193@nanotsu.kobe-u.ac.jp> To: Amancio Hasty cc: Kees.Koster@nym.sc.philips.com, hackers@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Reply-To: oka@kobe-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:32:54 MST. <199607240932.CAA00362@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="ISO-2022-JP" Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:21:04 +0900 From: Koji OKAMURA Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio, > BTW: Omnimedia's hardware mpeg decoder with NTSC output works great in > FreeBSD.. I want to get its information, for example, its URL. Thanks. -- Koji From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 18:24:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00263 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00245 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03534; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:20:27 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:20:26 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: davide@galactica.it cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple domain on the same machine In-Reply-To: <199607241209.FAA15871@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 24 Jul 1996 davide@galactica.it wrote: > I have this problem: > > I'd like to configure my FreeBSD to manage two mail domain. > domain1.it and domain2.it and to manage the mailbox > of the users: > > info@domain1.it and > info@domain2.it In older sendmail.cf, add additional lines Cw domain1.it Cw domain2.it In newer sendmails, add new file /etc/sendmail.cw which contains ---/etc/sendmail.cw---- domain1.it domain2.it ---- Danny From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 18:33:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00980 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00975 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA23305 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.whistle.com(207.76.205.74) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023302; Wed Jul 24 18:32:36 1996 Received: (from julian@localhost) by shrimp.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA09348 for hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:32:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:32:36 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607250132.SAA09348@shrimp.whistle.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone remember this mail? Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A long time ago someone mentionned a utility from linux that configured ethernet cards.. i.e. did what the manufacturer's 'setup' programs do.. does anyone remember this email and have any information.. I've tried the mail archives but am not getting any hits.. julian From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 18:34:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA01124 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01117 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA23318 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.whistle.com(207.76.205.74) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023315; Wed Jul 24 18:34:00 1996 Received: (from julian@localhost) by shrimp.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA09361 for hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:33:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:33:59 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607250133.SAA09361@shrimp.whistle.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Don't bother Re:Anyone remember this mail? Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I found it.. julian (now to try port it) From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 18:56:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02080 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02044 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03576; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:54:35 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:54:34 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Hans Zuidam cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: catching /etc/rc output In-Reply-To: <199607241503.RAA01095@truk.brandinnovators.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Hans Zuidam wrote: > Is there a convenient way to direct all output from the /etc/rc scripts > to both the console and a file other than rewriting them? Scrollback > is not always sufficient especially after lengthy fsck output. How about starting by building a statically linked version of tee(1). Pop it into /bin and wedge it into /etc/rc where appropriate. Trouble is that you don't have anywhere to write the file unless you (a) brute-force fsck of / and write on that, or (b) have a special partition wd0h, 1MB in size, which you mount for the purposes of catching fsck output, then umount when finished. Thus wd0h is almost guaranteed to be clean and writable. I've given myself a project of making it straightforward to get a two-stage boot process so a machine which is administered remotely can come half-way up enough to be telnetted to. Danny From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 19:50:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08187 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 19:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pdx1 (pdx1.world.net [192.243.32.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA08174 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 19:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suburbia.net (suburbia.net [203.4.184.1]) by pdx1 (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA01542; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 19:52:17 -0700 Received: (proff@localhost) by suburbia.net (8.7.4/Proff-950810) id MAA28732; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:50:03 +1000 From: Julian Assange Message-Id: <199607250250.MAA28732@suburbia.net> Subject: Re: anoncvs To: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:50:03 +1000 (EST) Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Jul 24, 96 06:01:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > > [ Anon CVS ]> > > > > I've had users ask me fo rthis for the postgres95 repository, > > > and the argument they used was tha twith CVS, they don't have to deal > > > with having *(their* changes overwritten, cvs will merge the new changes > > > from the repository in with the changes they have made... > > > > > > Can sup do this? > > > > If they SUP the CVS tree and don't expect to use the CVS tree locally > > except for testingt, yes. Almost all of the FreeeBSD developers do this > > exact thing as your pstgres developers are asking. > > Ahhh, okay, now I understand wha tyuo mean...yes, to me thi sdoes > act as an acceptable solution to anoncvs, thanks :) > > Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net > Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org Suping the CVS tree sounds like a an expnseive proposition, in terms of bandwidth and drive space. Rsyncing the CVS tree I would be acceptable in terms of on-going bandwidth, but doesn't address the other issues. -- "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis, _God in the Dock_ +---------------------+--------------------+----------------------------------+ |Julian Assange RSO | PO Box 2031 BARKER | Secret Analytic Guy Union | |proff@suburbia.net | VIC 3122 AUSTRALIA | finger for PGP key hash ID = | |proff@gnu.ai.mit.edu | FAX +61-3-98199066 | 0619737CCC143F6DEA73E27378933690 | +---------------------+--------------------+----------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 21:24:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14108 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14099 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id XAA15070; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:24:12 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199607250424.XAA15070@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Anyone remember this mail? To: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607250132.SAA09348@shrimp.whistle.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Jul 24, 96 06:32:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > A long time ago someone mentionned a utility from linux > that configured ethernet cards.. > i.e. did what the manufacturer's 'setup' programs do.. > > does anyone remember this email and have any information.. > I've tried the mail archives but am not > getting any hits.. Julian, Actually, it might have been me... and if so, it wasn't Linux, but rather Lynx (a real-time UNIX-like OS) who apparently "ported" SMC's ezsetup software to their system... very impressive actually. That's not a lot of help, of course, but I was hoping that the fact that others had succeeded in doing it might serve as inspiration to some CS undergrad.. ;-) ... JG From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 21:38:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14821 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14815 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA01142 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:38:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA23559; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 22:36:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607250436.WAA23559@rover.village.org> To: Julian Assange Subject: Re: anoncvs Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:50:03 +1000 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 22:36:13 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : Suping the CVS tree sounds like a an expnseive proposition, in terms of : bandwidth and drive space. Rsyncing the CVS tree I would be : acceptable in terms of on-going bandwidth, but doesn't address the other : issues. As someone who lives on ctm for FreeBSD and cvs for OpenBSD, I like them both. I like ctm for FreeBSD because I can stick a filter in my incoming mail and have it automatically update my CVS tree for me. However, it is *VERY* expensive in terms of disk. Another 250 Mb of disk space just to have acccess to -current. I like the OpenBSD because I can still do all the cvs stuff I do with FreeBSD and the repository is costing someone else disk space. It is very competitive with FreeBSD's ctm in terms of bandwidth because CVS just sends me patches (unless they are too big, in which case it sends me whole files). cvs update once a day (or week) takes about 5 (or 20) minutes. And my OpenBSD tree uses 250 Mb less than my FreeBSD tree. And I get to do cvs log, etc as well. I have 1.7G of disk and am still too tight on space. The CVS tree for FreeBSD reprents 15% of my disk space, which is rather signficant (at least to me). I can't install TeX because I have a CVS tree :-(. Given that FreeBSD has ctm, I'd say it is about a wash. Sure it would be nice to have this as an option, but it isn't completely required. It would be useful for those people that are tight on space and literally can't afford to get more (even at today's insanely low prices). Warner From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 23:07:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19671 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19659 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15426(3)>; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:06:58 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177482>; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:06:44 -0700 To: Don Yuniskis cc: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), explorer@flame.org, chag@moneyworld.com, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 96 15:48:33 PDT." <199607242248.PAA04033@seagull.rtd.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:06:36 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Jul24.230644pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607242248.PAA04033@seagull.rtd.com> you write: >Personally, I just set up a filter to shitcan stuff from that >domain. I would have thought moving this filter up a level >(i.e. into the list processor) might be more beneficial... In fact, I just heard that Xerox has filtered it out on the SMTP level -- we reply to MAIL FROM: with 554 we don't accept mail from you . Cute hack. Bill From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 23:11:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19944 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19938 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15464(1)>; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:10:41 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177482>; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:10:36 -0700 To: Julian Elischer cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anoncvs In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 96 15:43:10 PDT." <199607242243.PAA07491@shrimp.whistle.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:10:29 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Jul24.231036pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607242243.PAA07491@shrimp.whistle.com> you write: >what cvsweb stuff? See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ . Bill From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 23:14:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA20118 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA20107 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA20054; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607250614.XAA20054@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Julian Elischer cc: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DEVFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:32:39 PDT." <199607242232.PAA07400@shrimp.whistle.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:14:32 -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> + >> + /* Try to mount devfs */ >> + mount(MOUNT_DEVFS, "/dev", MNT_NOEXEC|MNT_RDONLY, 0); >ok, that's a good start. You can even do it later than that.. in >/etc/fstab is almost good enough.. >I was actually wondering if it could be done at the same time >as / is mounted.. I'd actually like to see this done in the kernel when "root" is initially mounted read-only. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 23:16:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA20237 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.my.domain (root@lennon-c10.aa.net [204.157.220.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA20214 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA01119; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:14:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Sujal Patel X-Sender: smpatel@localhost To: Joe Greco cc: Julian Elischer , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone remember this mail? In-Reply-To: <199607250424.XAA15070@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > Actually, it might have been me... and if so, it wasn't Linux, but rather > Lynx (a real-time UNIX-like OS) who apparently "ported" SMC's ezsetup > software to their system... very impressive actually. > > That's not a lot of help, of course, but I was hoping that the fact that > others had succeeded in doing it might serve as inspiration to some CS > undergrad.. ;-) The beta PnP patches will configure the SMC EtherEz cards properly (I'm running on one now). I also have it working on the 3Com PnP card. Sujal From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 24 23:56:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA22060 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22031 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (scanner@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA14325; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:55:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Scanner To: Nate Williams cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chag@moneyworld.com Subject: Re: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) In-Reply-To: <199607242230.QAA02701@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > My suggestion is to add this person to *ALL* our mailing lists. I think > we generate enough traffic to make a dent in is network, and given that > he added our address to his list I htink adding him to our lists is only > appropriate. > > Turn-about *IS* fair play! Here Here! Toast em. -- ===================================| Webspan Inc., ISP Division. FreeBSD 2.1.5 is available now! | Phone: 908-367-8030 ext. 126 -----------------------------------| 500 West Kennedy Blvd., Lakewood, NJ-08701 Turning PCs into Workstations | E-Mail: scanner@webspan.net http://www.freebsd.org | SysAdmin / Network Engineer / Security ===================================| Member BSDNET team! http://www.bsdnet.org From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 00:06:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA22559 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22547; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00399; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:06:18 +0200 (MET DST) To: dg@root.com cc: Julian Elischer , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DEVFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:14:32 PDT." <199607250614.XAA20054@root.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:06:17 +0200 Message-ID: <397.838278377@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607250614.XAA20054@root.com>, David Greenman writes: >>> + >>> + /* Try to mount devfs */ >>> + mount(MOUNT_DEVFS, "/dev", MNT_NOEXEC|MNT_RDONLY, 0); >>ok, that's a good start. You can even do it later than that.. in >>/etc/fstab is almost good enough.. >>I was actually wondering if it could be done at the same time >>as / is mounted.. > > I'd actually like to see this done in the kernel when "root" is initially >mounted read-only. Well, I just stuck it in /sbin/init to have it somewhere... At present the system wedges with a process hung in "ufslk2" so it's not much use yet... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 00:54:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA24878 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [199.4.33.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24872 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA00355 for hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:54:12 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199607250754.VAA00355@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: SCO and Wordperfect 7 problems (socksys) To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:54:11 -1000 (HST) From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to install Wordperfect 7 for SCO and I am getting the folowing errors: libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 Kenrel is current (like June 22 or so) and /dev stuff is as follows: 0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jul 24 21:37 XOR@ -> /dev/null 0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 Jul 24 21:37 nfsd@ -> socksys 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 41, 0 Jul 24 21:35 socksys 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 41, 1 Jul 24 21:35 spx I have tried with and without "SPX_HACK" and I have tried using IBCS2 in the kernel and the ibcs2 lkm. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Also, how ever is doing the SCO work should probably get ahold of Corel and get on the Wordperfect beta program. The first Wordperfect beta for SCO was just sent out on the 22nd... Thanks.... -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com langfod@mrtc.org From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 01:02:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA25272 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 01:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skye.hut.fi (vode@skye.hut.fi [130.233.224.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA25267 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 01:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vode@localhost) by skye.hut.fi (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA23852; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:01:50 +0300 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:01:50 +0300 Message-Id: <199607250801.LAA23852@skye.hut.fi> From: Kai Vorma To: hans@brandinnovators.com (Hans Zuidam) cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: catching /etc/rc output Reply-to: Kai.Vorma@hut.fi Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a convenient way to direct all output from the /etc/rc scripts to both the console and a file other than rewriting them? Scrollback is not always sufficient especially after lengthy fsck output. I have written a simple program that grabs console output and redirects it both to the console and a file. If the output file is not writable (partition is not yet mounted or read only) it saves console output to a circular buffer until the log file is available. It can also monitor its parent process and exit when the parent dies so it can be started at the head of /etc/rc and it exits automagically when rc is done. The code isn't very clean but I can send it to you if you want it. ..vode From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 01:04:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA25414 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 01:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25406 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 01:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id QAA00438 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:55:45 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id QAA05815; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:54:19 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA17787; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:05:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607241405.QAA17787@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:05:30 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: erich@lodgenet.com (Eric L. Hernes) In-Reply-To: <199607231943.OAA04317@jake.lodgenet.com> from "Eric L. Hernes" at "Jul 23, 96 02:43:47 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Eric L. Hernes wrote: > >I've also been looking at El Torito, and figured that they've invented > >a lot of useless crap. :) > > For the most part I'd agree. All that's really needed is a simple > way for the bios get code off CD. Yep. It would have seemed logical to invent a new BIOS drive # with a given geometry, and pass this on to the loaded bootstrap in %dl. > which hardware supports it. After I've found hardware that'll > support booting, I'll hack on mkisofs to spit out a bootable image. No need to hack mkisofs in the first place. We do already have the tool to merge the bootcode into an existing isofs. It's called dd(1). Wait a minute, yep, the El Toredo specs didn't use the first 32 KB (where there are plenty of space), but the very first sector _after_ the start of the isofs. So of course, we must make sure that mkisofs leaves this one blank. (Dunno whether it puts something there right now.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 02:22:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA02088 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA02047; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00722; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607250921.CAA00722@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: oka@kobe-u.ac.jp cc: Kees.Koster@nym.sc.philips.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:21:04 +0900." <199607250121.KAA27193@nanotsu.kobe-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:21:32 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Koji, http://www.omt.com/ Your Freebsd contact for the hardware mpeg decoder is : brian@mediacity.com Happy Viewing 8) Amancio >From The Desk Of Koji OKAMURA : > > Amancio, > > > BTW: Omnimedia's hardware mpeg decoder with NTSC output works great in > > FreeBSD.. > > I want to get its information, for example, its URL. > Thanks. > > -- > Koji > > > From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 03:46:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA09787 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 03:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bbs.galactica.it (bbs.galactica.it [151.99.164.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA09776 for < hackers@freebsd.org>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 03:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: davide@galactica.it Message-Id: <199607251046.DAA09776@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: 25 Jul 1996 12:54:26 GMT Subject: Mail relay Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'd like to give e-mail to one SMTP server that is not always online (is attache by me with a dial up line) and that has a different domain. How have I to configure my FreeBSD mail server to hold the mail of that domain until the remote mail server offline and send it the mail when is online ? I have only SMTP protocol (not UUCP) Thanks for reply Ciao Davide From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 04:20:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA14697 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yokogawa.co.jp (yhqfm.yokogawa.co.jp [202.33.29.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA14665 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjc.yokogawa.co.jp.yokogawa.co.jp ([133.140.4.100]) by yokogawa.co.jp (8.6.9+2.4Wb3/3.3Wb4-firewall:08/09/94) with ESMTP id UAA14240 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:20:21 +0900 Received: from leia.pa.yokogawa.co.jp by sjc.yokogawa.co.jp.yokogawa.co.jp (8.7.1+2.6Wbeta4/6.4J.6-YOKOGAWA-R/GW) id UAA12209; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:20:19 +0900 (JST) Received: from sapphire by leia.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (1.38.193.4/6.4J.6-YOKOGAWA/pa) id AA13554; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:20:19 +0900 Received: from localhost by sapphire.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (8.6.12/3.3Wb) id UAA00307; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:20:17 +0900 Message-Id: <199607251120.UAA00307@sapphire.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: patch for the 'sgetrune' of EUC encoding From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRURDZkh+SmY7UhsoQg==?= X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.2, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:20:17 +0900 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I found a problem in sgetrune of EUC encoding. That is, The library function 'mblen(3)' doesn't return the error when the second byte is not set MSB. I make the following patch for this problem. It is available for 2.1.0R, 2.1.5R, and -current. How about it ? --------< patch for /usr/src/lib/libc/locale/euc.c >------------------------ --- euc.c Thu May 26 22:56:45 1994 +++ euc.c.new Thu Jul 25 19:12:36 1996 @@ -136,6 +136,7 @@ { rune_t rune = 0; int len, set; + unsigned char c; if (n < 1 || (len = CEI->count[set = _euc_set(*string)]) > n) { if (result) @@ -147,11 +148,20 @@ case 2: --len; ++string; - /* FALLTHROUGH */ case 1: + while (len-- > 0) { + /* '0x80-0x9f' are control codes */ + if ((c = (unsigned char)*string++) < 0xa0) { + if (result) + *result = string; + return (_INVALID_RUNE); + }; + rune = (rune << 8) | ((u_int)(c) & 0xff); + } + break; + /* FALLTHROUGH */ case 0: - while (len-- > 0) - rune = (rune << 8) | ((u_int)(*string++) & 0xff); + rune = (u_int)(*string++) & 0xff; break; } if (result) ------------------- cut cut cut ------------------------------- -- Mihoko Tanaka From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 04:48:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA19319 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA19312 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id GAA15354; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:47:48 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199607251147.GAA15354@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Anyone remember this mail? To: smpatel@umiacs.umd.edu (Sujal Patel) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:47:48 -0500 (CDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Sujal Patel" at Jul 24, 96 11:14:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > > > Actually, it might have been me... and if so, it wasn't Linux, but rather > > Lynx (a real-time UNIX-like OS) who apparently "ported" SMC's ezsetup > > software to their system... very impressive actually. > > > > That's not a lot of help, of course, but I was hoping that the fact that > > others had succeeded in doing it might serve as inspiration to some CS > > undergrad.. ;-) > > The beta PnP patches will configure the SMC EtherEz cards properly (I'm > running on one now). I also have it working on the 3Com PnP card. Hi Sujal, Sorry, I thought we were discussing non PnP cards.. ... JG From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 04:56:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA20323 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA20305; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA09420; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:47:08 +1000 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:47:08 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607251147.VAA09420@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: davo@chunga.kt.apana.org.au, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setup of serial ports Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >for u in 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0a 0b 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f >do > comcontrol /dev/ttyc$u dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 > stty -f /dev/ttyic$u hupcl crtscts -clocal 38400 > stty -f /dev/ttylc$u hupcl crtscts -clocal 38400 > stty -f /dev/cuaic$u hupcl crtscts -clocal 38400 > stty -f /dev/cualc$u hupcl crtscts -clocal 38400 >done >----------- >I've been told that the lock-state device needs to be set clocal >and not -clocal. >Is this true and if so why? Yes, bits in the lock state devices are flags, not settings, and all flags default to off, so turning them off is usually just confusing. You probably want to leave the initial-state device with its default setting of -clocal and set the lock-state device to clocal to stop users from setting clocal. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 05:12:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22148 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 05:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA22128 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 05:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA04351; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:12:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:12:03 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: davide@galactica.it cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail relay In-Reply-To: <199607251046.DAA09776@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 25 Jul 1996 davide@galactica.it wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to give e-mail to one SMTP server that is not always online > (is attache by me with a dial up line) and that has a different domain. > How have I to configure my FreeBSD mail server to hold the mail of > that domain until the remote mail server offline and send it the mail > when is online ? Look for macro Ow in sendmail.cf and define it to be True. Then, make your FreeBSD mail server the *best* MX for the target machine and the Ow macro will make sendmail deliver the mail to the target even though the FreeBSD machine is the best MX. Danny From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 05:49:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA25017 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 05:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sarenet.es (sollube.sarenet.es [192.148.167.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA25008 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 05:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnor.sarenet.es (INFOVIA-B-24.sarenet.es [193.148.39.248]) by sarenet.es (8.7.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA27942 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:20:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <31F76844.41C67EA6@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:27:48 +0200 From: Borja Marcos X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) References: <199607242150.OAA28669@seagull.rtd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Don Yuniskis wrote: > > It seems that chag@moneyworld.com said: > > [why waste time quoting the spam???] > > Is it worth the effort to hack majordomo to support a "can't post" > list? (i.e. disallow posts from these addresses and/or domains? > > > To terminate from my Investment Opportunities, Reply to > > chag@moneyworld.com with "remove" in the subject field. I have never attacked a machine, but as I see more and more spams, I'm starting to think seriously about the possibility of making them have a nightmare. Borja. -- *********************************************************************** Borja Marcos * Internet: borjam@we.lc.ehu.es Alangoeta, 11 1 izq * borjam@well.com 48990 - Algorta (Vizcaya) * CompuServe: 100015,3502 SPAIN * *********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 05:50:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA25137 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 05:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sarenet.es (sollube.sarenet.es [192.148.167.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA25128 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 05:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnor.sarenet.es (INFOVIA-B-24.sarenet.es [193.148.39.248]) by sarenet.es (8.7.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA28109 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:34:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <31F76B92.167EB0E7@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:41:54 +0200 From: Borja Marcos X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: dropped TCP connectiona Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have just installed 2.2-960501-SNAP and have noticed a problem I haven't had with the previous versions. (2.0.5R and 2.1R). I have a poor connection to the university, through a poorly configured router that about each 3 minutes looses its route to the newtork where I am, for about 20 seconds. So when I'm connected, my sessions get "frozen" for some seconds until the damn router learns the route again. With the previous versions the connections were simply frozen, but with this version the connection is closed abruptly after some seconds being frozen. I have had a look at the statistics with netstat -s and this is what it shows: 2 connections dropped by rexmit timeout Is this normal? (This is the number of "misteriously closed" connections). Thanks, Borja. -- *********************************************************************** Borja Marcos * Internet: borjam@we.lc.ehu.es Alangoeta, 11 1 izq * borjam@well.com 48990 - Algorta (Vizcaya) * CompuServe: 100015,3502 SPAIN * *********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 06:18:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA27977 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA27971 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA28301; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:16:01 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma028285; Thu Jul 25 08:15:50 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA05231; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:15:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA03601; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:15:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607251315.IAA03601@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: J Wunsch cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers), erich@lodgenet.com (Eric L. Hernes) Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:05:30 +0200." <199607241405.QAA17787@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:15:26 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch writes: >As Eric L. Hernes wrote: > >> >I've also been looking at El Torito, and figured that they've invented >> >a lot of useless crap. :) >> >> For the most part I'd agree. All that's really needed is a simple >> way for the bios get code off CD. > >Yep. It would have seemed logical to invent a new BIOS drive # with >a given geometry, and pass this on to the loaded bootstrap in %dl. I understood that the bios would search the CD-ROM for the El Torito signature before considering booting. Stop me if I'm wrong here, but here's what I was expecting (following the 4-page thing): 1) take boot.flp, or any bootable (FBSD) floppy 2) create BVD.BIN and BOOTCAT.BIN with dd, emacs, beav, mkisofs, whatever... 3) rename boot.flp OSBOOT.IMG 4) mkisofs with at least this stuff on it. 5) boot the CD. > >> which hardware supports it. After I've found hardware that'll >> support booting, I'll hack on mkisofs to spit out a bootable image. > >No need to hack mkisofs in the first place. We do already have the >tool to merge the bootcode into an existing isofs. It's called dd(1). > Well, a simple hack. It looks like the spec wants `EL TORITO SPECIFICATION' in place of `FreeBSD' in the BVD.BIN amongst placing the proper links and stuff on the iso9660. > >-- >cheers, J"org > >joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE >Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 06:21:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA28297 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA28277 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04673; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:21:35 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:21:34 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: David Langford cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCO and Wordperfect 7 problems (socksys) In-Reply-To: <199607250754.VAA00355@caliban.dihelix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, David Langford wrote: > I am trying to install Wordperfect 7 for SCO and I am getting the folowing > errors: > > libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address > Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 Try setting the display to your (fully qualified) hostname. With WP6.0, I couldn't even get started with :0.0 or unix:0.0 or localhost:0.0, I had to use fallout.campusview.indiana.edu:0.0. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 07:15:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01101 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lobster.wellfleet.com (lobster.corpeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.253.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01088 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox.BayNetworks.com by lobster.wellfleet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1) id KAA16071; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:17:57 -0400 Received: from tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com by pobox.BayNetworks.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08677; Thu, 25 Jul 96 10:15:06 EDT Received: from localhost.engeast.baynetworks.com (localhost.engeast.baynetworks.com [127.0.0.1]) by tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA18880 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:15:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199607251415.KAA18880@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> X-Authentication-Warning: tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com: Host localhost.engeast.baynetworks.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: 2.1.5 -- NFS/AMD problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:15:05 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that 2.1.5's nfs suffers from the same problem that 2.1's nfs suffered from, namely that AMD direct maps don't work correctly with it. Someone sent me a patch for 3 files in 2.1's /sys/nfs that seemed to fix the problem. I thought he said these patches made it into -stable, but I guess not. Does someone have patches for 2.1.5's nfs, or will the 2.1 patches still work? -- Robert Withrow -- (+1 508 436 8256) BWithrow@BayNetworks.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 07:16:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01225 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from polaris.canweb.ca (polaris.canweb.ca [204.225.44.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA01216 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by polaris.canweb.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA08981 Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:15:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:15:23 -0400 (EDT) From: David Grant To: didier@omnix.fr.org cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp / tcp problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are you running 100Mbps or 10? If you are using the 100Mpbs cards and a Synoptics (Bay Networks) 28115 10/100Mbps switch, try turning off full duplex on both the card and the switch port. I've read that the full duplex protocol is non standard and can appear as invalid checksum packets to a card that doesn't support it. If your're running 10Mbps then I have no idea! Good luck Dave --- Didier Derny once said: >I've a problem with two FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE machines these machine >has a SMC PCI card (de0 driver). > >I only get 15kb with ftp > >what can I do to solve this problem. I found the result of netstat -s quite >strange. why so many tcp packet have a bad checksum. no errors are detected >by ethernet switch (synoptics) > >Thanks for your help --------- David Grant CanWeb Internet Services Ltd. 519 332 6900 http://www.canweb.ca FAX 519 332 6464 From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 07:25:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01965 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from novell.com (orm-mh.orem.novell.com [151.155.174.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01955 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INET-ORM-Message_Server by novell.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:24:42 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:32:44 -0600 From: Darren Davis To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, nate@novell.com Cc: chag@moneyworld.com Subject: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) - Reply Encoding: 22 Text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I second this motion! Darren R. Davis Senior Software Engineer Novell, Inc. >>> Nate Williams 7/24 4:30pm >>> My suggestion is to add this person to *ALL* our mailing lists. I think we generate enough traffic to make a dent in is network, and given that he added our address to his list I htink adding him to our lists is only appropriate. Turn-about *IS* fair play! Nate (If that's not acceptable, then a couple of 'well-connected' individuals could forward all freebsd related material to him, thus accomplishing the same task) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 07:29:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA02244 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA02235 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA12979 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:36:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:36:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199607251436.KAA12979@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hackers@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: X.25 revisited Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> We've just finished re-vamping X.25 for FreeBSD, and now that its a >> nice clean interface, I want to evaluate possibly modifying the ccitt >> stuff to work with our LAPB and X.25 stuff. The questions that I >> have are: >> >> 1) Is this worthwhile? Is it a well-done interface, or does it need to be >> reworked completely? >> >> 2) Is there a terminal server type application available for that interface >> so X.25 users dialing into a network could access the FreeBSD system, >> or does this need to be built? > >I believe you are looking for an X.29 PAD. Well, not really....a PAD more describes the caller end rather than the server end. I'm looking more to service PAD callers from some sort of emulator. Our (old) SCO driver simulated async ttys and used the standard gettys...there are several ways to do it. Just what IS in the ISODE stuff that anyone might want? Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 08:02:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04444 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from minnow.render.com (render.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04429 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by minnow.render.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA25169; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:38:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:38:35 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Dmitry Khrustalev cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, John Fieber Subject: Re: NFS crash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Dmitry Khrustalev wrote: > > Has anyone seen this problem? > > > > > I have a problem with nfs mounting a freebsd machine from a Sun. I > > > have set it up just like it says FreeBSD handbook. It lets the Sun > > > mount the freeBSD drive. It lets me cd to the mount point, but when I > > > do a "ls", the freeBSD machine crashes. Have you ever seen this > > > problem? Please give me a call. > > > The errorthat is left on the bsd machine before it crashes is: Panic: > > > ufs_ihashget:recursive lock not expected -- pid86 > > > > Yes. solaris 2.5 uses readdirplus and it is broken in freebsd. > Look at VOP_VGET in nfs_serv.c:2913. This patch should fix readdirplus: Index: nfs_serv.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/nfs/nfs_serv.c,v retrieving revision 1.30 diff -u -r1.30 nfs_serv.c --- nfs_serv.c 1996/06/08 12:16:26 1.30 +++ nfs_serv.c 1996/07/25 14:34:18 @@ -2919,6 +2919,7 @@ nfsm_srvpostop_attr(getret, &at); return (0); } + vput(nvp); dirlen = len = NFSX_V3POSTOPATTR + NFSX_V3COOKIEVERF + 2 * NFSX_UNSIGNED; nfsm_reply(cnt); -- Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.com Phone: +44 171 251 4411 FAX: +44 171 251 0939 From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 08:02:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04440 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04418 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA02635; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:01:42 -0600 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:01:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: hackers@freebsd.org cc: explorer@flame.org Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) In-Reply-To: <96Jul24.230644pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the spam, I figured this may interest people. I have received uncountable messages from this fool, every reply was bounced and ignored. The last time I sent to every address and host I could conceivably come up with based off 'host -l -v' and a few other things, I also did a whois and found a few BBN planet contacts, and forwarded the mail there. I forget where I came across this messages, but it useful nonetheless :) ------ snip ------- REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST IMMEDIATELY I HAVE FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS, THEY DO NOT WORK. ANY FURTHER MESSAGES WILL RESULT IN LEGAL ACTION per US Code Title 47, chapter 5, subchapter II, 227. (b) (1) (A) iii This offense is being reported to your network access provider as well as to federal authorities where appropriate. Repeated violations will result in civil action to recover $500 per occurance, as provided for by the code. * UNITED STATES CODE + TITLE 47 - TELEGRAPHS, TELEPHONES, AND RADIOTELEGRAPHS o CHAPTER 5 - WIRE OR RADIO COMMUNICATION # SUBCHAPTER II - COMMON CARRIERS _________________________________________________________________ ' 227. Restrictions on use of telephone equipment * (a) Definitions As used in this section - + (1) The term ''automatic telephone dialing system'' means equipment which has the capacity - o (A) to store or produce telephone numbers to be called, using a random or sequential number generator; and o (B) to dial such numbers. + (2) The term ''telephone facsimile machine'' means equipment which has the capacity (A) to transcribe text or images, or both, from paper into an electronic signal and to transmit that signal over a regular telephone line, or (B) to transcribe text or images (or both) from an electronic signal received over a regular telephone line onto paper. + (3) The term ''telephone solicitation'' means the initiation of a telephone call or message for the purpose of encouraging the purchase or rental of, or investment in, property, goods, or services, which is transmitted to any person, but such term does not include a call or message (A) to any person with that person's prior express invitation or permission, (B) to any person with whom the caller has an established business relationship, or (C) by a tax exempt nonprofit organization. + (4) The term ''unsolicited advertisement'' means any material advertising the commercial availability or quality of any property, goods, or services which is transmitted to any person without that person's prior express invitation or permission. * (b) Restrictions on use of automated telephone equipment + (1) Prohibitions It shall be unlawful for any person within the United States - o (A) to make any call (other than a call made for emergency purposes or made with the prior express consent of the called party) using any automatic telephone dialing system or an artificial or prerecorded voice - # (i) to any emergency telephone line (including any ''911'' line and any emergency line of a hospital, medical physician or service office, health care facility, poison control center, or fire protection or law enforcement agency); # (ii) to the telephone line of any guest room or patient room of a hospital, health care facility, elderly home, or similar establishment; or # (iii) to any telephone number assigned to a paging service, cellular telephone service, specialized mobile radio service, or other radio common carrier service, or any service for which the called party is charged for the call; o (B) to initiate any telephone call to any residential telephone line using an artificial or prerecorded voice to deliver a message without the prior express consent of the called party, unless the call is initiated for emergency purposes or is exempted by rule or order by the Commission under paragraph (2)(B); o (C) to use any telephone facsimile machine, computer, or other device to send an unsolicited advertisement to a telephone facsimile machine; or o (D) to use an automatic telephone dialing system in such a way that two or more telephone lines of a multi-line business are engaged simultaneously. + (2) Regulations; exemptions and other provisions The Commission shall prescribe regulations to implement the requirements of this subsection. In implementing the requirements of this subsection, the Commission - o (A) shall consider prescribing regulations to allow businesses to avoid receiving calls made using an artificial or prerecorded voice to which they have not given their prior express consent; o (B) may, by rule or order, exempt from the requirements of paragraph (1)(B) of this subsection, subject to such conditions as the Commission may prescribe - # (i) calls that are not made for a commercial purpose; and # (ii) such classes or categories of calls made for commercial purposes as the Commission determines - @ (I) will not adversely affect the privacy rights that this section is intended to protect; and @ (II) do not include the transmission of any unsolicited advertisement; and o (C) may, by rule or order, exempt from the requirements of paragraphs (FOOTNOTE 1) (1)(A)(iii) of this subsection calls to a telephone number assigned to a cellular telephone service that are not charged to the called party, subject to such conditions as the Commission may prescribe as necessary in the interest of the privacy rights this section is intended to protect. (FOOTNOTE 1) So in original. Probably should be ''paragraph''. + (3) Private right of action A person or entity may, if otherwise permitted by the laws or rules of court of a State, bring in an appropriate court of that State - o (A) an action based on a violation of this subsection or the regulations prescribed under this subsection to enjoin such violation, o (B) an action to recover for actual monetary loss from such a violation, or to receive $500 in damages for each such violation, whichever is greater, or o (C) both such actions. If the court finds that the defendant willfully or knowingly violated this subsection or the regulations prescribed under this subsection, the court may, in its discretion, increase the amount of the award to an amount equal to not more than 3 times the amount available under subparagraph (B) of this paragraph. * (c) Protection of subscriber privacy rights + (1) Rulemaking proceeding required Within 120 days after December 20, 1991, the Commission shall initiate a rulemaking proceeding concerning the need to protect residential telephone subscribers' privacy rights to avoid receiving telephone solicitations to which they object. The proceeding shall - o (A) compare and evaluate alternative methods and procedures (including the use of electronic databases, telephone network technologies, special directory markings, industry-based or company-specific ''do not call'' systems, and any other alternatives, individually or in combination) for their effectiveness in protecting such privacy rights, and in terms of their cost and other advantages and disadvantages; o (B) evaluate the categories of public and private entities that would have the capacity to establish and administer such methods and procedures; o (C) consider whether different methods and procedures may apply for local telephone solicitations, such as local telephone solicitations of small businesses or holders of second class mail permits; o (D) consider whether there is a need for additional Commission authority to further restrict telephone solicitations, including those calls exempted under subsection (a)(3) of this section, and, if such a finding is made and supported by the record, propose specific restrictions to the Congress; and o (E) develop proposed regulations to implement the methods and procedures that the Commission determines are most effective and efficient to accomplish the purposes of this section. + (2) Regulations Not later than 9 months after December 20, 1991, the Commission shall conclude the rulemaking proceeding initiated under paragraph (1) and shall prescribe regulations to implement methods and procedures for protecting the privacy rights described in such paragraph in an efficient, effective, and economic manner and without the imposition of any additional charge to telephone subscribers. + (3) Use of database permitted The regulations required by paragraph (2) may require the establishment and operation of a single national database to compile a list of telephone numbers of residential subscribers who object to receiving telephone solicitations, and to make that compiled list and parts thereof available for purchase. If the Commission determines to require such a database, such regulations shall - o (A) specify a method by which the Commission will select an entity to administer such database; o (B) require each common carrier providing telephone exchange service, in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Commission, to inform subscribers for telephone exchange service of the opportunity to provide notification, in accordance with regulations established under this paragraph, that such subscriber objects to receiving telephone solicitations; o (C) specify the methods by which each telephone subscriber shall be informed, by the common carrier that provides local exchange service to that subscriber, of (i) the subscriber's right to give or revoke a notification of an objection under subparagraph (A), and (ii) the methods by which such right may be exercised by the subscriber; o (D) specify the methods by which such objections shall be collected and added to the database; o (E) prohibit any residential subscriber from being charged for giving or revoking such notification or for being included in a database compiled under this section; o (F) prohibit any person from making or transmitting a telephone solicitation to the telephone number of any subscriber included in such database; o (G) specify (i) the methods by which any person desiring to make or transmit telephone solicitations will obtain access to the database, by area code or local exchange prefix, as required to avoid calling the telephone numbers of subscribers included in such database; and (ii) the costs to be recovered from such persons; o (H) specify the methods for recovering, from persons accessing such database, the costs involved in identifying, collecting, updating, disseminating, and selling, and other activities relating to, the operations of the database that are incurred by the entities carrying out those activities; o (I) specify the frequency with which such database will be updated and specify the method by which such updating will take effect for purposes of compliance with the regulations prescribed under this subsection; o (J) be designed to enable States to use the database mechanism selected by the Commission for purposes of administering or enforcing State law; o (K) prohibit the use of such database for any purpose other than compliance with the requirements of this section and any such State law and specify methods for protection of the privacy rights of persons whose numbers are included in such database; and o (L) require each common carrier providing services to any person for the purpose of making telephone solicitations to notify such person of the requirements of this section and the regulations thereunder. + (4) Considerations required for use of database method If the Commission determines to require the database mechanism described in paragraph (3), the Commission shall - o (A) in developing procedures for gaining access to the database, consider the different needs of telemarketers conducting business on a national, regional, State, or local level; o (B) develop a fee schedule or price structure for recouping the cost of such database that recognizes such differences and - # (i) reflect the relative costs of providing a national, regional, State, or local list of phone numbers of subscribers who object to receiving telephone solicitations; # (ii) reflect the relative costs of providing such lists on paper or electronic media; and # (iii) not place an unreasonable financial burden on small businesses; and o (C) consider (i) whether the needs of telemarketers operating on a local basis could be met through special markings of area white pages directories, and (ii) if such directories are needed as an adjunct to database lists prepared by area code and local exchange prefix. + (5) Private right of action A person who has received more than one telephone call within any 12-month period by or on behalf of the same entity in violation of the regulations prescribed under this subsection may, if otherwise permitted by the laws or rules of court of a State bring in an appropriate court of that State - o (A) an action based on a violation of the regulations prescribed under this subsection to enjoin such violation, o (B) an action to recover for actual monetary loss from such a violation, or to receive up to $500 in damages for each such violation, whichever is greater, or o (C) both such actions. It shall be an affirmative defense in any action brought under this paragraph that the defendant has established and implemented, with due care, reasonable practices and procedures to effectively prevent telephone solicitations in violation of the regulations prescribed under this subsection. If the court finds that the defendant willfully or knowingly violated the regulations prescribed under this subsection, the court may, in its discretion, increase the amount of the award to an amount equal to not more than 3 times the amount available under subparagraph (B) of this paragraph. + (6) Relation to subsection (b) The provisions of this subsection shall not be construed to permit a communication prohibited by subsection (b) of this section. * (d) Technical and procedural standards + (1) Prohibition It shall be unlawful for any person within the United States - o (A) to initiate any communication using a telephone facsimile machine, or to make any telephone call using any automatic telephone dialing system, that does not comply with the technical and procedural standards prescribed under this subsection, or to use any telephone facsimile machine or automatic telephone dialing system in a manner that does not comply with such standards; or o (B) to use a computer or other electronic device to send any message via a telephone facsimile machine unless such person clearly marks, in a margin at the top or bottom of each transmitted page of the message or on the first page of the transmission, the date and time it is sent and an identification of the business, other entity, or individual sending the message and the telephone number of the sending machine or of such business, other entity, or individual. + (2) Telephone facsimile machines The Commission shall revise the regulations setting technical and procedural standards for telephone facsimile machines to require that any such machine which is manufactured after one year after December 20, 1991, clearly marks, in a margin at the top or bottom of each transmitted page or on the first page of each transmission, the date and time sent, an identification of the business, other entity, or individual sending the message, and the telephone number of the sending machine or of such business, other entity, or individual. + (3) Artificial or prerecorded voice systems The Commission shall prescribe technical and procedural standards for systems that are used to transmit any artificial or prerecorded voice message via telephone. Such standards shall require that - o (A) all artificial or prerecorded telephone messages (i) shall, at the beginning of the message, state clearly the identity of the business, individual, or other entity initiating the call, and (ii) shall, during or after the message, state clearly the telephone number or address of such business, other entity, or individual; and o (B) any such system will automatically release the called party's line within 5 seconds of the time notification is transmitted to the system that the called party has hung up, to allow the called party's line to be used to make or receive other calls. * (e) Effect on State law + (1) State law not preempted Except for the standards prescribed under subsection (d) of this section and subject to paragraph (2) of this subsection, nothing in this section or in the regulations prescribed under this section shall preempt any State law that imposes more restrictive intrastate requirements or regulations on, or which prohibits - o (A) the use of telephone facsimile machines or other electronic devices to send unsolicited advertisements; o (B) the use of automatic telephone dialing systems; o (C) the use of artificial or prerecorded voice messages; or o (D) the making of telephone solicitations. + (2) State use of databases If, pursuant to subsection (c)(3) of this section, the Commission requires the establishment of a single national database of telephone numbers of subscribers who object to receiving telephone solicitations, a State or local authority may not, in its regulation of telephone solicitations, require the use of any database, list, or listing system that does not include the part of such single national datebase (FOOTNOTE 2) that relates to such State. (FOOTNOTE 2) So in original. Probably should be ''database''. * (f) Actions by States + (1) Authority of States Whenever the attorney general of a State, or an official or agency designated by a State, has reason to believe that any person has engaged or is engaging in a pattern or practice of telephone calls or other transmissions to residents of that State in violation of this section or the regulations prescribed under this section, the State may bring a civil action on behalf of its residents to enjoin such calls, an action to recover for actual monetary loss or receive $500 in damages for each violation, or both such actions. If the court finds the defendant willfully or knowingly violated such regulations, the court may, in its discretion, increase the amount of the award to an amount equal to not more than 3 times the amount available under the preceding sentence. + (2) Exclusive jurisdiction of Federal courts The district courts of the United States, the United States courts of any territory, and the District Court of the United States for the District of Columbia shall have exclusive jurisdiction over all civil actions brought under this subsection. Upon proper application, such courts shall also have jurisdiction to issue writs of mandamus, or orders affording like relief, commanding the defendant to comply with the provisions of this section or regulations prescribed under this section, including the requirement that the defendant take such action as is necessary to remove the danger of such violation. Upon a proper showing, a permanent or temporary injunction or restraining order shall be granted without bond. + (3) Rights of Commission The State shall serve prior written notice of any such civil action upon the Commission and provide the Commission with a copy of its complaint, except in any case where such prior notice is not feasible, in which case the State shall serve such notice immediately upon instituting such action. The Commission shall have the right (A) to intervene in the action, (B) upon so intervening, to be heard on all matters arising therein, and (C) to file petitions for appeal. + (4) Venue; service of process Any civil action brought under this subsection in a district court of the United States may be brought in the district wherein the defendant is found or is an inhabitant or transacts business or wherein the violation occurred or is occurring, and process in such cases may be served in any district in which the defendant is an inhabitant or where the defendant may be found. + (5) Investigatory powers For purposes of bringing any civil action under this subsection, nothing in this section shall prevent the attorney general of a State, or an official or agency designated by a State, from exercising the powers conferred on the attorney general or such official by the laws of such State to conduct investigations or to administer oaths or affirmations or to compel the attendance of witnesses or the production of documentary and other evidence. + (6) Effect on State court proceedings Nothing contained in this subsection shall be construed to prohibit an authorized State official from proceeding in State court on the basis of an alleged violation of any general civil or criminal statute of such State. + (7) Limitation Whenever the Commission has instituted a civil action for violation of regulations prescribed under this section, no State may, during the pendency of such action instituted by the Commission, subsequently institute a civil action against any defendant named in the Commission's complaint for any violation as alleged in the Commission's complaint. + (8) ''Attorney general'' defined As used in this subsection, the term ''attorney general'' means the chief legal officer of a State. From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 08:13:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04931 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04926 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from minnow.render.com (render.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.118]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA02037 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:13:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by minnow.render.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA25772; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:07:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:07:09 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Robert Withrow cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1.5 -- NFS/AMD problems In-Reply-To: <199607251415.KAA18880@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Robert Withrow wrote: > It seems that 2.1.5's nfs suffers from the same problem that > 2.1's nfs suffered from, namely that AMD direct maps don't work > correctly with it. Someone sent me a patch for 3 files in > 2.1's /sys/nfs that seemed to fix the problem. > > I thought he said these patches made it into -stable, but I guess not. > > Does someone have patches for 2.1.5's nfs, or will the 2.1 patches > still work? I just checked and the diffs between 2.1.0 and 2.1.5 for NFS are pretty small. Try applying the patches and see what happens. Alternatively, you could try this patch which I just made by hand-merging the amd direct fixes from -current into -stable. I have not tested this. I haven't even compiled it, so your milage might vary considerably :-) Index: nfs_bio.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c,v retrieving revision 1.14.4.2 diff -u -r1.14.4.2 nfs_bio.c --- nfs_bio.c 1996/06/08 20:22:38 1.14.4.2 +++ nfs_bio.c 1996/07/25 15:00:11 @@ -114,7 +114,7 @@ * attributes this could be forced by setting n_attrstamp to 0 before * the VOP_GETATTR() call. */ - if ((nmp->nm_flag & NFSMNT_NQNFS) == 0 && vp->v_type != VLNK) { + if ((nmp->nm_flag & NFSMNT_NQNFS) == 0) { if (np->n_flag & NMODIFIED) { if ((nmp->nm_flag & NFSMNT_MYWRITE) == 0 || vp->v_type != VREG) { Index: nfs_subs.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/nfs/nfs_subs.c,v retrieving revision 1.15.4.4 diff -u -r1.15.4.4 nfs_subs.c --- nfs_subs.c 1996/03/21 20:30:02 1.15.4.4 +++ nfs_subs.c 1996/07/25 15:01:41 @@ -750,7 +750,7 @@ * information. */ np = VTONFS(vp); - if (vp->v_type == VNON) { + if (vp->v_type != vtyp) { if (vtyp == VCHR && rdev == 0xffffffff) vp->v_type = vtyp = VFIFO; else Index: nfs_vfsops.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c,v retrieving revision 1.15.2.1 diff -u -r1.15.2.1 nfs_vfsops.c --- nfs_vfsops.c 1996/03/21 20:30:05 1.15.2.1 +++ nfs_vfsops.c 1996/07/25 15:04:59 @@ -473,6 +473,7 @@ register struct nfsmount *nmp; struct nfsnode *np; int error; + struct vattr attrs; if (mp->mnt_flag & MNT_UPDATE) { nmp = VFSTONFS(mp); @@ -598,6 +599,12 @@ goto bad; *vpp = NFSTOV(np); + /* + * Get file attributes for the mountpoint. This has the side + * effect of filling in (*vpp)->v_type with the correct value. + */ + VOP_GETATTR(*vpp, &attrs, curproc->p_ucred, curproc); + return (0); bad: nfs_disconnect(nmp); @@ -701,7 +708,6 @@ if (error) return (error); vp = NFSTOV(np); - vp->v_type = VDIR; vp->v_flag = VROOT; *vpp = vp; return (0); -- Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.com Phone: +44 171 251 4411 FAX: +44 171 251 0939 From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 08:29:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05567 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05477; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.7.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id PAA01422; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:24:03 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:24:03 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Union mounts and other mounts In-Reply-To: <199606251931.MAA00496@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry, are you out there? Please upload your mega patches. I'm sure someone will take a look and maybe we can at least start with getting the locks fixed. Or do we just have to dream about the possibilities? I want to mount my home source directory on top of a FreeBSD CD and compile as if the CD were writable. I want to start working on a non-itar restricted crypto-fs layer. I want to see a gzip layer. I want to see a mirroring layer mounted on top of a FFS and a EXT2 filesystem. . . . Mike Hancock On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > This is the intrinsic "union" option. > > It does not work. > > It does not work because VOP_ADVLOCK does not veto. > > It does not work because VOP_LOCK can not be stacked because it is > stupidly referencing flags specific to the underlying vnode for lock > resoloution instead of the union vnode. > > It does not work because VOP_LOOKUP, VOP_RENAME, etc. can not > be stacked because they actually deallocate path structures that > were allocated by code in vfs_syscalls.c, instead of the buffers > being deallocated in vfs_syscalls.c as well, as you would expect > in a proper idempotent layering implementation. > > VOP_LOCK stupidly references these flags because vclean needs them. > > vclean is an abomination before God, and is a half-kludge to deal > with not having both vnode/offset and dev/offset based cache > references simultaneously. > > Use of vnode/offset cache entries is a result of the unified cache > implementation. It saves a bmap call when moving data to/from > user space. It's why FreeBSD has faster I/O than most other systems. > > The lack of a parallel dev/offset based caching allows us to be lazy, > and enlarges the bit limit on FS storage, though it does not help > the inherent limit on file size (due to mapping). > > The lack of a parallel dev/offset results in the need for > implementation of a "second chance cache" via ihash. Still, we > will discard perfectly good pages from cache as a side effect of > having no way to reassociate them with a vnode. > > The use of a global vnode pool instead of per FS mount instance vnode > allocations damages cache locality. Combined with vclean, it also > damages cache coherency. > > > To repair: > > 1) Fix the stackability issues with the VFS interface itself, > which will incidently cause the VFS to more closely conform > to the Heidemann Thesis design on which it is based. Currently > it only implements a subset of the specified functionality. > > 2) Migrate the vnode locking to the vnode instead of the per FS > inode; get rid of the second chance cache at the same time > (the Lite2 code does some of this). The pointer should have > been in the vnode, not the inode, from the very beginning. > > 3) Move the directory name cache out of the per FS code and > into the lookup code. > > 4) Move the vnodes from the global pool; establish a per-FS > vnode free routine. > > 5) Establish VOP_GETPAGE/VOP_PUTPAGE, etc... > > 6) Union mounts will then work without kludges in lookup, locking, > and other code. They *could* be made to work with great, gross > kludges and changes to at least 3 FS's (that I know of), but > that's a kludge I won't do. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 08:38:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA06120 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06114; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14206; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:36:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607251536.LAA14206@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: msqlperl for FreeBSD To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607242103.RAA11446@etinc.com> from "Dennis" at Jul 24, 96 05:03:41 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Anyone using msqlperl on a freebsd system? When I try to build it > complains about libmisc.a, which I cant find anywhere. Any ideas > would be appreciated. Do you really need this lib ? Try to cut it out from Makefile and see how it goes ... > > Dennis > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com > > Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For > Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame > Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD > and LINUX > > From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 08:54:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA07026 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (root@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA07018; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@picea.FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.3]) by cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA09940; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:54:32 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.7/8.6.9) id IAA18627; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: Dennis cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: msqlperl for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199607242103.RAA11446@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Dennis wrote: > > Anyone using msqlperl on a freebsd system? When I try to build it > complains about libmisc.a, which I cant find anywhere. Any ideas > would be appreciated. > msqlperl-1.03 compiles fine on my system. Did you run perl Makefile.PL first? Wayne From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 09:01:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07565 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07558; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA00163; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:59:19 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199607251559.KAA00163@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts To: michaelh@cet.co.jp (Michael Hancock) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:59:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Michael Hancock" at Jul 26, 96 00:24:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Terry, are you out there? > > Please upload your mega patches. I'm sure someone will take a look and > maybe we can at least start with getting the locks fixed. > I want to consider including Terry's stuff. Even though I do filesystem hacking from time to time, I think that we need to get agreement from other's (on the team) on the changes. The changes have significant architectural implications. At least, in certain areas, Terry is on the right track... We need to get consensus on the changes. The last batch of changes don't fix all of the problems, and Jeffery Hsu's stuff should be reviewed and appropriately included also. I actually think that we are stagnating in this area a "little bit." But again, I don't feel qualified to make wholesale changes in that (the VFS) section of the kernel, without agreement from others... Anybody have any ideas on this impasse? John From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 09:19:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08605 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08593 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA28726 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:19:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 11:19 CDT Message-Id: Subject: CVS basics? To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:19:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, Ok, we've taken the plunge and supped the CVS tree to a new system which is going to be our "codebase" machine. Now, the question is, how does one use CVS to grab those bits? I know how to do a "make release" when the time comes, but I want to check out current, upgrade the current software on the box (2.1.0-release) to -CURRENT, and have a platform from which I can build kernels and such for both current and stable. Possible? Tutorials anywhere? Where do I get the list of collections and common commands? I expect to be mirroring the CVS tree nightly, and can probably arrange to serve it as well if people want -- the machine its on is a 200Mhz Pentium Pro and should have lots of free cycles. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed! From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 09:19:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08641 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.my.domain (root@moon-c26.aa.net [204.157.220.126]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08632 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA00605; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:18:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Sujal Patel X-Sender: smpatel@localhost To: Joe Greco cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone remember this mail? In-Reply-To: <199607251147.GAA15354@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > > > Lynx (a real-time UNIX-like OS) who apparently "ported" SMC's ezsetup > > > > The beta PnP patches will configure the SMC EtherEz cards properly (I'm > > Sorry, I thought we were discussing non PnP cards.. I think we were, but all of the recent SMC EtherEz cards can either be configured with ezsetup (or was it ezstart?) or by Plug-n-Play, so I thought I'd mention it. > ... JG Sujal From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 09:47:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10440 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10432; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01030; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:47:12 +0200 (MET DST) To: "John S. Dyson" cc: michaelh@cet.co.jp (Michael Hancock), freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:59:19 CDT." <199607251559.KAA00163@dyson.iquest.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:47:11 +0200 Message-ID: <1028.838313231@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607251559.KAA00163@dyson.iquest.net>, "John S. Dyson" writes: >> Terry, are you out there? >> >> Please upload your mega patches. I'm sure someone will take a look and >> maybe we can at least start with getting the locks fixed. >> >I want to consider including Terry's stuff. Even though I do filesystem >hacking from time to time, I think that we need to get agreement from >other's (on the team) on the changes. The changes have significant >architectural implications. > >At least, in certain areas, Terry is on the right track... We need to >get consensus on the changes. The last batch of changes don't fix all >of the problems, and Jeffery Hsu's stuff should be reviewed and appropriately >included also. I actually think that we are stagnating in this area a "little >bit." But again, I don't feel qualified to make wholesale changes in that >(the VFS) section of the kernel, without agreement from others... Anybody >have any ideas on this impasse? I agree. Jeff's changes have higher priority for me than Terrys, because they bring us closer to the codebase Kirk is hacking away on, and he has some nice things brewing too. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 10:06:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11550 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11544 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by misery.sdf.com (8.7.5/UNS-1.0) with SMTP id KAA25455; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:17:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Bill Fenner cc: Don Yuniskis , Poul-Henning Kamp , explorer@flame.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG) In-Reply-To: <96Jul24.230644pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Bill Fenner wrote: > In fact, I just heard that Xerox has filtered it out on the SMTP > level -- we reply to MAIL FROM: with > 554 we don't accept mail from you . > Cute hack. It isn't a hack. It is built-in feature on Zmailer. Tom From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 10:08:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11724 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11719 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by misery.sdf.com (8.7.5/UNS-1.0) with SMTP id KAA25473; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Scanner cc: Nate Williams , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chag@moneyworld.com Subject: Re: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Scanner wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > > My suggestion is to add this person to *ALL* our mailing lists. I think > > we generate enough traffic to make a dent in is network, and given that > > he added our address to his list I htink adding him to our lists is only > > appropriate. > > > > Turn-about *IS* fair play! > Here Here! > > Toast em. Won't work. moneyworld.com filters out incoming traffic on their border router! Tom From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 10:33:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14015 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14004 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id MAA15696; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:31:12 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199607251731.MAA15696@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) To: tom@sdf.com (Tom Samplonius) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:31:12 -0500 (CDT) Cc: scanner@webspan.net, nate@mt.sri.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chag@moneyworld.com In-Reply-To: from "Tom Samplonius" at Jul 25, 96 10:21:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Scanner wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > > My suggestion is to add this person to *ALL* our mailing lists. I think > > > we generate enough traffic to make a dent in is network, and given that > > > he added our address to his list I htink adding him to our lists is only > > > appropriate. > > > > > > Turn-about *IS* fair play! > > Here Here! > > > > Toast em. > > Won't work. moneyworld.com filters out incoming traffic on their border > router! I feel that I have a compelling need to flood ping them from multiple points on the Internet :-) :-) :-) ... JG From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 11:03:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17162 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17155 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA03451; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 13:02 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Read Bandwidth from PCI to Triton II? To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:02:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lars Jonas Olsson" Cc: jonas@mcs.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a BitFlow Raptor PCI frame grabber (using /dev/io and /dev/mem and a library from bitFlow). With a Neptune based MB I could get 20MB/s read bandwidth, using Triton II I only get 14 MB/s. Has anyone managed to get higher bandwidth from any PCI board with a Triton or Triton II based computer? What is the best memcpy for this application? I copy 1MB at a time. Jonas From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 11:41:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20335 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from minnow.render.com (render.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20329; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by minnow.render.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA26253; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:42:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:42:10 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: "John S. Dyson" , Michael Hancock , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts In-Reply-To: <1028.838313231@critter.tfs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <199607251559.KAA00163@dyson.iquest.net>, "John S. Dyson" writes: > >> Terry, are you out there? > >> > >> Please upload your mega patches. I'm sure someone will take a look and > >> maybe we can at least start with getting the locks fixed. > >> > >I want to consider including Terry's stuff. Even though I do filesystem > >hacking from time to time, I think that we need to get agreement from > >other's (on the team) on the changes. The changes have significant > >architectural implications. > > > >At least, in certain areas, Terry is on the right track... We need to > >get consensus on the changes. The last batch of changes don't fix all > >of the problems, and Jeffery Hsu's stuff should be reviewed and appropriately > >included also. I actually think that we are stagnating in this area a "little > >bit." But again, I don't feel qualified to make wholesale changes in that > >(the VFS) section of the kernel, without agreement from others... Anybody > >have any ideas on this impasse? > > I agree. > > Jeff's changes have higher priority for me than Terrys, because they > bring us closer to the codebase Kirk is hacking away on, and he has > some nice things brewing too. Is Kirk going to attack some of the same issues as Terry is talking about? To improve my own understanding of the interface, I just started writing manpages for the VFS entry points and VOP_LOOKUP makes me feel ill :-). Does anyone else have any documentation on our VFS interface? Does anyone feel like reviewing my efforts? -- Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.com Phone: +44 171 251 4411 FAX: +44 171 251 0939 From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 11:53:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20955 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20928; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607251852.LAA20928@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Doug Rabson cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , "John S. Dyson" , Michael Hancock , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:42:10 BST." Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:52:54 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Is Kirk going to attack some of the same issues as Terry is talking about? >To improve my own understanding of the interface, I just started writing >manpages for the VFS entry points and VOP_LOOKUP makes me feel ill :-). Last I heard, Kirk was incorperating the recent work on soft metadata updates into the 4.4Lite2 code base. >-- >Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.com > Phone: +44 171 251 4411 > FAX: +44 171 251 0939 > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 12:33:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA24958 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA24935; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:33:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199607251933.MAA24935@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-fs, freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I actually think that we are stagnating in this area a "little > bit." Anybody have any ideas on this impasse? Due to the large nature of the Lite2 fs work, I think we should start a Lite2 tree and mailing list like the SMP tree so other people can get involved. The work that's left is for other people to look at the patch and to do a cvs update -jbsd_44_lite -jbsd_44_lite2 in the nfs directory to bring that one last filesystem up to Lite2 conventions. So far, Terry has sent me detailed comments on the Lite2 patch and both Terry and John have booted a Lite2 kernel. From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 12:35:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25196 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25169; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199607251935.MAA25169@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dfr@render.com, freebsd-fs, freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does anyone feel like reviewing my efforts? Sure, I'll take a look at them. Say, how would you like to do some Lite2 NFS work? From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 12:52:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26526 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26516 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA19843 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:52:29 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA23882 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:52:29 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA22070 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:31:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607251731.TAA22070@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: DEVFS To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:31:24 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <397.838278377@critter.tfs.com> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Jul 25, 96 09:06:17 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > I'd actually like to see this done in the kernel when "root" is initially > >mounted read-only. > > Well, I just stuck it in /sbin/init to have it somewhere... > At present the system wedges with a process hung in "ufslk2" > so it's not much use yet... That's bad news. I almost had it running some time ago with a similar hack to yours (mounted from inside /sbin/init). I remember that it was basically working, except syslogd, but those are also still unresolved: Device od0a: name slot allocation failed (E=17) Device rod0a: name slot allocation failed (E=17) Device od0c: name slot allocation failed (E=17) Device rod0c: name slot allocation failed (E=17) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 12:53:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26637 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26613 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA26713; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.whistle.com(207.76.205.74) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma026707; Thu Jul 25 12:52:08 1996 Received: (from julian@localhost) by shrimp.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA25212; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:52:08 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607251952.MAA25212@shrimp.whistle.com> Subject: Re: anoncvs To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: julian@whistle.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <96Jul24.231036pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Jul 24, 96 11:10:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Great! how come there is no easy-to-find link to this from the hame page? > > In message <199607242243.PAA07491@shrimp.whistle.com> you write: > >what cvsweb stuff? > > See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ . > > Bill > From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 12:53:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26695 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26679 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA19901; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:53:19 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA23914; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:53:14 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA22917; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:39:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607251939.VAA22917@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Bootable CD roms To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:39:43 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: erich@lodgenet.com (Eric L. Hernes) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607251315.IAA03601@jake.lodgenet.com> from "Eric L. Hernes" at "Jul 25, 96 08:15:26 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Eric L. Hernes wrote: > I understood that the bios would search the CD-ROM for the El Torito > signature before considering booting. Yep, no problem. > Stop me if I'm wrong here, but here's what I was expecting > (following the 4-page thing): Thou shalt not follow it. :) > > 1) take boot.flp, or any bootable (FBSD) floppy > 2) create BVD.BIN and BOOTCAT.BIN with dd, emacs, beav, mkisofs, whatever... > 3) rename boot.flp OSBOOT.IMG Nah, we've got the sources. The above really only obfuscates things, it's better to put this into `biosboot', or create a new boot subdir for `cdboot'. > >No need to hack mkisofs in the first place. We do already have the > >tool to merge the bootcode into an existing isofs. It's called dd(1). We perhaps need to tweak it, btw., since we are required to create a ``boot record volume descriptor'' which must follow the ``primary volume descriptor''. > Well, a simple hack. It looks like the spec wants > `EL TORITO SPECIFICATION' in place of `FreeBSD' in the BVD.BIN > amongst placing the proper links and stuff on the iso9660. Nope, you're confusing the primary volume descriptor (where all the optional strings go to) with the (not yet existent) boot record volume descriptor. I haven't looked yet, but i assume that the current isofs layout from mkisofs(1) has just the primary volume descriptor, immediately followed by the terminate volume descriptor. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 12:54:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26744 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26727 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA19805; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:51:58 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA23850; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:51:53 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA21623; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:55:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607251655.SAA21623@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: "named" daemon To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:55:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: kasturi@teil.soft.net (K.V.S. Sankaram) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "K.V.S. Sankaram" at "Jul 24, 96 03:59:29 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As K.V.S. Sankaram wrote: > * After I configured it to run, by making changes in the > "/etc/sysconfig" file, commands like "arp -a", "netstat -r", > "telnet", & "ftp" are taking a lot of time to get executed. I bet you forgot to setup the reverse lookup zone. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 12:54:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26802 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26785 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA19924; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:53:37 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA23943; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:53:37 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA22592; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:01:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607251901.VAA22592@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: puzzled about if ioctls To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:01:32 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jrb@cs.pdx.edu Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607241104.VAA22587@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Jul 24, 96 09:04:47 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Evans wrote: > >Whatever happened to good old suser() with no parameters? > > I wonder how often p != curproc in suser(). I wonder where curproc will go on an MP machine... -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 13:54:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00740 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aida.aida.org (root@codix2.codix.fr [194.98.13.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00727 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aida.aida.org (didier@aida [128.127.10.1]) by aida.aida.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00617; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:26:38 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:26:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: didier@aida.org To: David Grant cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp / tcp problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, David Grant wrote: > Are you running 100Mbps or 10? > > If you are using the 100Mpbs cards and a Synoptics (Bay Networks) > 28115 10/100Mbps switch, try turning off full duplex on both the card > and the switch port. > > I've read that the full duplex protocol is non standard and can appear > as invalid checksum packets to a card that doesn't support it. > > If your're running 10Mbps then I have no idea! > > Good luck > Ok, Thanks I'm running at 100Mbs > > --------- > David Grant > CanWeb Internet Services Ltd. 519 332 6900 > http://www.canweb.ca FAX 519 332 6464 > > -- Didier Derny | Private FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT Site Email: didier@aida.org | Microsoft Free Computer. Homepage: http://www.codix.fr/~dderny | AMD 5x86-160 on a ASUS PVI-486SP3 From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 14:12:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01718 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01708 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA14704; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:20:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:20:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199607252120.RAA14704@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Lars Jonas Olsson" From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: Read Bandwidth from PCI to Triton II? Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a BitFlow Raptor PCI frame grabber (using /dev/io and /dev/mem >and a library from bitFlow). With a Neptune based MB I could get >20MB/s read bandwidth, using Triton II I only get 14 MB/s. > > Has anyone managed to get higher bandwidth from any PCI board >with a Triton or Triton II based computer? > > What is the best memcpy for this application? I copy 1MB at a time. Please don't use the term "bandwidth"....the bandwidth of PCI is always the same (given a clock speed). The transfer rate is an entirely different issue..... Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 14:26:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02412 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kechara.flame.org (kechara.flame.org [192.80.44.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02402 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from explorer@localhost) by kechara.flame.org (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA02431; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:23:10 -0400 (EDT) To: Don Yuniskis Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chag@moneyworld.com Subject: Re: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) References: <199607242256.PAA04750@seagull.rtd.com> From: Michael Graff Date: 25 Jul 1996 17:23:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: Don Yuniskis's message of Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:56:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.36/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Don Yuniskis writes: > > Turn-about *IS* fair play! > > Sh*t! Sometimes the obvious solutions just pass us by! :> To tell you the truth, if the mail didn't bounce, sending him 1000 copies of how-to-be-kind-with-email would be good. But then again, he'd ignore them. If the mail didn't bounce, I'd subscribe him to 1000 mailing lists, and see how he likes finding them and unsubscribing from them. THAT is the true revenge. But all mail to him bounces. --Michael From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 14:55:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03903 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03895 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03085; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607252155.OAA03085@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Lars Jonas Olsson" cc: hackers@freebsd.org, jonas@mcs.net Subject: Re: Read Bandwidth from PCI to Triton II? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:02:54 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:55:09 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What can the BitFlow flow do ? How much does it cost ? Which chipset does it use? Details , details 8) Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Lars Jonas Olsson" : > I have a BitFlow Raptor PCI frame grabber (using /dev/io and /dev/mem > and a library from bitFlow). With a Neptune based MB I could get > 20MB/s read bandwidth, using Triton II I only get 14 MB/s. > > Has anyone managed to get higher bandwidth from any PCI board > with a Triton or Triton II based computer? > > What is the best memcpy for this application? I copy 1MB at a time. > > Jonas > > From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 14:58:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04018 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04013 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05186; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:56:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:56:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Joe Greco cc: Tom Samplonius , scanner@webspan.net, nate@mt.sri.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chag@moneyworld.com Subject: Re: SPAM ( was Re: Chancellor Group) In-Reply-To: <199607251731.MAA15696@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > I feel that I have a compelling need to flood ping them from multiple points > on the Internet :-) :-) :-) Come on, we all should know a few people who are at the major NAPs. *evil grin* | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 15:06:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04622 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04610; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01352; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:06:14 +0200 (MET DST) To: Doug Rabson cc: "John S. Dyson" , Michael Hancock , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:42:10 BST." Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:06:14 +0200 Message-ID: <1350.838332374@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I agree. >> >> Jeff's changes have higher priority for me than Terrys, because they >> bring us closer to the codebase Kirk is hacking away on, and he has >> some nice things brewing too. > >Is Kirk going to attack some of the same issues as Terry is talking about? >To improve my own understanding of the interface, I just started writing >manpages for the VFS entry points and VOP_LOOKUP makes me feel ill :-). Some of the stuff is the same as what Terry wants to change, except that maybe kirks changes will be isolated so that we can see what he changed. > >Does anyone else have any documentation on our VFS interface? Does anyone >feel like reviewing my efforts? no. yes. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 15:13:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05073 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05066; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01423; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:12:54 +0200 (MET DST) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers), jrb@cs.pdx.edu Subject: Re: puzzled about if ioctls In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:01:32 +0200." <199607251901.VAA22592@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:12:53 +0200 Message-ID: <1421.838332773@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607251901.VAA22592@uriah.heep.sax.de>, J Wunsch writes: >As Bruce Evans wrote: > >> >Whatever happened to good old suser() with no parameters? >> >> I wonder how often p != curproc in suser(). > >I wonder where curproc will go on an MP machine... Currently it's a macro, which from memory looks like: #define curproc SMPcurproc[getcpuid()] getcpuid() is a macro too that does something like ((*(u_long *ADDRESS_OF_SOME_REGISTER_IN_APIC)>>24) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 15:13:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05113 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05108 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03186; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607252213.PAA03186@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Lars Jonas Olsson" cc: hackers@freebsd.org, jonas@mcs.net Subject: Re: Read Bandwidth from PCI to Triton II? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:02:54 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:13:41 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Lars Jonas Olsson" : > Has anyone managed to get higher bandwidth from any PCI board > with a Triton or Triton II based computer? Oops, I forgot to answer this question. Yeah, with the matrox meteor and PCI to PCI to a video frame buffer such an S3 968 I routinely get about 37MBs 8) I would love to connect two matrox meteors cards and have them blast the screen at full speed to see what happens. If I am not mistaken Jim Lowe has done this... The matrox meteor driver has code to support this feature look for METEOR_TEST_VIDEO and I modify "tv" to support this mode. My system is a P100 and a Triton I ASUS motherboard. Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 15:18:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05361 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05356; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA00784; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:18:04 -0500 (EST) From: John Dyson Message-Id: <199607252218.RAA00784@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:18:04 -0500 (EST) Cc: dfr@render.com, michaelh@cet.co.jp, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1350.838332374@critter.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Jul 26, 96 00:06:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Does anyone else have any documentation on our VFS interface? Does anyone > >feel like reviewing my efforts? > no. yes. > Me too!!! :-). John From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 15:25:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05886 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05881 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.mcs.com (root@Mercury.mcs.com [192.160.127.80]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id RAA15005; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:25:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 17:25 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: Read Bandwidth from PCI to Triton II? To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:25:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lars Jonas Olsson" Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607252213.PAA03186@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Jul 25, 96 03:13:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >From The Desk Of "Lars Jonas Olsson" : > > Has anyone managed to get higher bandwidth from any PCI board > > with a Triton or Triton II based computer? > > Oops, I forgot to answer this question. > > Yeah, with the matrox meteor and PCI to PCI to a video frame buffer > such an S3 968 I routinely get about 37MBs 8) > I would love to connect two matrox meteors cards and have them > blast the screen at full speed to see what happens. If I am not > mistaken Jim Lowe has done this... > > The matrox meteor driver has code to support this feature look for > METEOR_TEST_VIDEO and I modify "tv" to support this mode. > > My system is a P100 and a Triton I ASUS motherboard. > > Enjoy, > Amancio > In other mail you asked what a Raptor does and costs. It is mostly for capturing data from digital greyscale cameras. It is a little bit old now, it does not do DMA or bus-mastering. You have to read the data via memcpy or similar from the board. The model of the board I have costs ~$3700 with digital camera interface and 4MB VRAM. The Meteor does bus-mastering so that speed can not be compared. I'm interested in memcpy speeds from PCI cards. Jonas PS The Matrox Pulsar is a competing product with the the BitFlow Raptor. Anyone have a driver for it? The Pulsar only costs ~$2000. From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 15:47:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07354 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pf1.phil.uni-sb.de (root@pf1.phil.uni-sb.de [134.96.82.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07346 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parsifal.nando.net (root@parsifal.nando.net [152.52.2.7]) by pf1.phil.uni-sb.de (8.7.5/8.7.3/960704chris) with ESMTP id AAA14662 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:47:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from castle.nando.net (castle.nando.net [152.52.2.109]) by parsifal.nando.net (8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA05552 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by castle.nando.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA07709; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:47:49 -0400 To: saar-lists-freebsd-hackers@pf1.phil.uni-sb.de Path: news From: jbenson@nando.net (James Benson) Newsgroups: saar.lists.freebsd-hackers Subject: $100 HACKING CONTEST! Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:47:46 GMT Organization: Nando.net Public Access Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4t8tii$7cm@castle.nando.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: grail702.nando.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Finally, something new to hack (or at least try to)! Check out our contest at: http://www.webbuild.com/~jbenson/contest.html Good luck! (You'll need it....) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 15:53:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07846 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07825 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id AAA25106; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:52:11 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA27274; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:52:11 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA23236; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:35:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607252035.WAA23236@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:35:40 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger MCSNet) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" at "Jul 25, 96 11:19:13 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Karl Denninger, MCSNet wrote: > Possible? Tutorials anywhere? Where do I get the list of collections and > common commands? dump 0 ... setenv CVSROOT ... cd /usr rm -rf src cvs co src cd src/sys/... (create new kernel, and see whether it will boot) cd /usr/src make world This should help upgrading, but it might fall apart somewhere in the make world, so you have to bootstrap something manually, and continue to build. After this, all you need to do is: cd /usr/src cvs update -Pd -A This will update your src tree. Local modifications will be retained, but might cause conflicts in case somebody changed the original source in a different way. Other interesting things: cvs co -c | fgrep module_name_youre_looking_for cd /some/where cvs co some_module cd some_module cd .. cvs diff -u some_module | ... | send-pr :-) cvs -Q release -d some_module cvs diff -u -rRELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -rRELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE /usr/src/sbin/init ...to learn about the differences of init(8) between 2.1R and 2.1.5R. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 16:03:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08362 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08356 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xsvr2.cup.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA285295797; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:03:18 -0700 Received: by xsvr2.cup.hp.com (1.39.111.2/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA082735797; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:03:17 -0700 From: "Josef C. Grosch" Message-Id: <9607251603.ZM8270@xsvr2.cup.hp.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:03:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: SuperMicro motherboards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody have any experience with SuperMicro motherboards? I have a chance to pick up a p55t2s at a very good price. Any advice or anecdotes would be helpful. Josef -- Josef Grosch, 47LG4 | "Laugh while you can, | My opinions are mine, not jgrosch@cup.hp.com | monkey boy!" | HPs. They have'nt paid for (408) 447-0467 | - John Warfin - | them yet ! :-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 16:05:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08484 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08479 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA27759; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.whistle.com(207.76.205.74) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma027757; Thu Jul 25 16:04:09 1996 Received: (from julian@localhost) by shrimp.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00810; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:04:09 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607252304.QAA00810@shrimp.whistle.com> Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, karl@mcs.com In-Reply-To: <199607252035.WAA23236@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 25, 96 10:35:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > As Karl Denninger, MCSNet wrote: > > > Possible? Tutorials anywhere? Where do I get the list of collections and > > common commands? > > dump 0 ... > setenv CVSROOT ... > cd /usr > rm -rf src > cvs co src > cd src/sys/... > (create new kernel, and see whether it will boot) > cd /usr/src mkdir /usr/obj make bootstrap > make world > > This should help upgrading, but it might fall apart somewhere in the From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 16:30:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA10224 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10219 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id SAA17600; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:30:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 18:30 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:30:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607252304.QAA00810@shrimp.whistle.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Jul 25, 96 04:04:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > As Karl Denninger, MCSNet wrote: > > > > > Possible? Tutorials anywhere? Where do I get the list of collections and > > > common commands? > > > > dump 0 ... > > setenv CVSROOT ... > > cd /usr > > rm -rf src > > cvs co src > > cd src/sys/... > > (create new kernel, and see whether it will boot) > > cd /usr/src > mkdir /usr/obj > make bootstrap > > make world > > > > This should help upgrading, but it might fall apart somewhere in the Yeah, but how do I select between STABLE bits, and CURRENT bits? This is where I'm missing out on the direction of things.. -- Karl From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 16:43:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA11281 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11276 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac01800; 25 Jul 96 23:43 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa10035; 26 Jul 96 0:12 +0100 Received: (from fhackers@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA00518; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:36:16 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199607251936.TAA00518@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Subject: Noise (was Chancellor Group) To: Brandon Gillespie Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:36:16 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brandon Gillespie" at Jul 25, 96 09:01:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Sorry for the spam, I figured this may interest people. Why would people reading an internationally distributed mailing list on the technicalities of FreeBSD be interested in reading large chunks of US law? Here's another question. If someone spams a mailing list, what is the most effective response? a. Post to the list saying "someone's spammed this list, how outrageous!" b. Post to the list saying "let's mailbomb the bastard!" c. Post to the list saying "me too!" d. Mail the postmasters of the site and their provider to politely inform them of the incident. (No, I don't like spam either and yes, I know this posting adds to the noise. My justification is the hope that it may lead people to stop and think the next time this happens, instead of charging in with pointless knee-jerk reactions which make things ten times worse). From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 16:45:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA11652 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11643 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA26001; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:45:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" cc: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer), joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: CVS basics? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:30:42 CDT." Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:45:03 -0400 Message-ID: <25991.838338303@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" wrote in message ID : > Yeah, but how do I select between STABLE bits, and CURRENT bits? This is > where I'm missing out on the direction of things.. cvs co -rRELENG_2_1_0 src (for -stable) cvs co -rRELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE src (for 2.1.5-RELEASE) cvs co src (for -current) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 17:07:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA13258 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DATAPLEX.NET (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13251 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 199.183.109.242 by DATAPLEX.NET with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:07:23 -0600 Message-ID: Date: 25 Jul 1996 19:06:52 -0500 From: "Richard Wackerbarth" Subject: Re(2): CVS basics? To: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG" X-Mailer: Mail*Link PT/Internet 1.6.0 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Karl Denninger, MCSNet writes: > Yeah, but how do I select between STABLE bits, and CURRENT bits? This is > where I'm missing out on the direction of things.. You automatically get the "current" version. To extract the "stable" version, use cvs co -rRELENG_2_1_0 -P src -- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 17:28:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14716 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saba.kuentos.guam.net (root@saba.kuentos.guam.net [198.81.233.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14709 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by saba.kuentos.guam.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0ujal5-002F2YC; Fri, 26 Jul 96 10:27 GST Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:27:58 +1000 (GST) From: Meltedice To: James Benson cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: $100 HACKING CONTEST! In-Reply-To: <4t8tii$7cm@castle.nando.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, James Benson wrote: > Finally, something new to hack (or at least try to)! Check out our > contest at: > > http://www.webbuild.com/~jbenson/contest.html > > Good luck! (You'll need it....) > > > Isn't cracker more accurate. Gotta love the way Hollywood portrays things. Question is, is it really worth $100......... I've got a lot of things to do that will make me more than $100 and keep me just as entertained. :) Bill =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= =* Bill Shaw *= =* Kuentos Communications Inc. Guam USA *= =* *= =* meltedice@kuentos.guam.net *= =* http://www.guam.net/home/bhshaw2 *= =* IFORMS Chat Run On BSDI *= =* telnet buri.kuentos.guam.net 3000 *= =* *= =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 17:46:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15504 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15496; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.7.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id AAA04661; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:45:44 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:45:44 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: Doug Rabson , Poul-Henning Kamp , "John S. Dyson" , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts In-Reply-To: <199607251852.LAA20928@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >Is Kirk going to attack some of the same issues as Terry is talking about? > >To improve my own understanding of the interface, I just started writing > >manpages for the VFS entry points and VOP_LOOKUP makes me feel ill :-). > > Last I heard, Kirk was incorperating the recent work on soft metadata > updates into the 4.4Lite2 code base. I also heard he was working on delayed ordered writes which might mean a lot of changes per fs. Can anyone confirm the any of the above? From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 17:50:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15762 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15742; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.7.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id AAA04696; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:50:18 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:50:18 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: Doug Rabson cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , "John S. Dyson" , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Doug Rabson wrote: > Is Kirk going to attack some of the same issues as Terry is talking about? > To improve my own understanding of the interface, I just started writing > manpages for the VFS entry points and VOP_LOOKUP makes me feel ill :-). > > Does anyone else have any documentation on our VFS interface? Does anyone > feel like reviewing my efforts? Is it ok if he uploads this to incoming? Mike Hancock From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 18:17:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17008 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16991; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.7.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id BAA04928; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 01:17:09 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:17:09 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: "John S. Dyson" , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Union mounts and other mounts In-Reply-To: <1028.838313231@critter.tfs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <199607251559.KAA00163@dyson.iquest.net>, "John S. Dyson" writes: > >> Terry, are you out there? > >> > >> Please upload your mega patches. I'm sure someone will take a look and > >> maybe we can at least start with getting the locks fixed. > >> > >I want to consider including Terry's stuff. Even though I do filesystem > >hacking from time to time, I think that we need to get agreement from > >other's (on the team) on the changes. The changes have significant > >architectural implications. > > > >At least, in certain areas, Terry is on the right track... We need to > >get consensus on the changes. The last batch of changes don't fix all > >of the problems, and Jeffery Hsu's stuff should be reviewed and appropriately > >included also. I actually think that we are stagnating in this area a "little > >bit." But again, I don't feel qualified to make wholesale changes in that > >(the VFS) section of the kernel, without agreement from others... Anybody > >have any ideas on this impasse? > > I agree. > > Jeff's changes have higher priority for me than Terrys, because they > bring us closer to the codebase Kirk is hacking away on, and he has > some nice things brewing too. I understand that Jeff's Lite2 work needs to be incorporated before any fs commits can be made. I think we're a ways off from any fs commits anyway. There's been very little analysis on this mailing list of the direction the file systems might be taking. I think its a good idea to look at the work that's been done by Terry; identify the changes that you guys agree with; compare and contrast this with Kirk's work when its available; and then make decisions on what to commit. Mike Hancock From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 18:28:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17527 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17521 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id UAA21940; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:28:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 20:28 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:28:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607252035.WAA23236@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 25, 96 10:35:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As Karl Denninger, MCSNet wrote: > > > Possible? Tutorials anywhere? Where do I get the list of collections and > > common commands? > > dump 0 ... > setenv CVSROOT ... > cd /usr > rm -rf src > cvs co src You forgot... cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config make make install (assuming the "make" works) :-) > cd src/sys/... > (create new kernel, and see whether it will boot) I'm here right now... some problems with missing include files, but I think I'll be able to get around these. > cd /usr/src > make world -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed! From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 19:09:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA19026 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA19018 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA23535; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:09:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 21:09 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:09:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607252304.QAA00810@shrimp.whistle.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Jul 25, 96 04:04:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > As Karl Denninger, MCSNet wrote: > > > > > Possible? Tutorials anywhere? Where do I get the list of collections and > > > common commands? > > > > dump 0 ... > > setenv CVSROOT ... > > cd /usr > > rm -rf src > > cvs co src > > cd src/sys/... > > (create new kernel, and see whether it will boot) Hmmm... first you have to get a kernel which will build :-( This seems to be a problem -- the "opt_" files in the include hierarchy are missing, and when you get through all of this, you end up with "kdc_isa0" undefined in i386/eisa/aic7770.c. I'm going to hunt for this, but it looks nasty. Without the AIC driver I'm cooked, as that's what my boot disk is connected to . -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed! From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 19:36:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA20642 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20636 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA24781; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:36:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 21:36 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:36:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607252035.WAA23236@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 25, 96 10:35:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As Karl Denninger, MCSNet wrote: > > > Possible? Tutorials anywhere? Where do I get the list of collections and > > common commands? > > dump 0 ... > setenv CVSROOT ... > cd /usr > rm -rf src > cvs co src > cd src/sys/... > (create new kernel, and see whether it will boot) > cd /usr/src > make world > > This should help upgrading, but it might fall apart somewhere in the > make world, so you have to bootstrap something manually, and continue > to build. Ok, what I've learned so far in this process (its not done yet; even a P200 isn't instantaneous :-) > dump 0 ... (really good idea) > setenv CVSROOT ... > cd /usr > rm -rf src > cvs co src cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config make install > cd src/sys/... > (create new kernel, and see whether it will boot) MAKE SURE to exclude the EISA bus from this kernel, OR IT WILL NOT LINK. You will also have to create empty "opt_*.h" files as required. > cd /usr/src > make world Now I'm getting hung up in here with problems in the "ld" commands in the lib area... this is getting to be fun!.. -- Karl From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 20:04:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21993 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21987 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fakir.india.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA242890234; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:03:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by fakir.india.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA071210377; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:36:18 +0530 Message-Id: <199607260306.AA071210377@fakir.india.hp.com> To: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS basics? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:36:43 EST." Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:36:17 +0530 From: A JOSEPH KOSHY Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Karl, Regarding the build of -current starting with a 2.1.* base; I did this recently and found that you may need to selectively install some parts of the compilation system first. `make', `ld', some `includes' and `config' (for the kernel) come to mind. I installed `gcc' and `lib' too to be safe. You would need to run "make install" in the relevant directories to get the new versions on your system. After a few iterations "make world" will go thru fine. Koshy My personal opinions only. From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 20:16:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22567 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22562 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id WAA25904; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:16:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 22:16 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: koshy@india.hp.com (A JOSEPH KOSHY) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:16:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607260306.AA071210377@fakir.india.hp.com> from "A JOSEPH KOSHY" at Jul 26, 96 08:36:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Karl, > > Regarding the build of -current starting with a 2.1.* base; I did this > recently and found that you may need to selectively install some > parts of the compilation system first. `make', `ld', some `includes' > and `config' (for the kernel) come to mind. I installed `gcc' and `lib' > too to be safe. > > You would need to run "make install" in the relevant directories to get the > new versions on your system. > > After a few iterations "make world" will go thru fine. > > Koshy > My personal opinions only. The trick I've found so far is that somehow the make profile for bsd.lib.mk ended up with -Os in the LD lines! That won't work... I'm in the middle of the make world right now... will summarize once I get this monster to build cleanly. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed! From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 20:57:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24378 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24372 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA24973 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Fri, 26 Jul 1996 06:51:06 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Fri, 26 Jul 96 06:51:06 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01313; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:46:26 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199607260346.HAA01313@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: patch for the 'sgetrune' of EUC encoding To: mihoko@pa.yokogawa.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRURDZkh+SmY7UhsoQg==?=) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:46:26 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607251120.UAA00307@sapphire.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> from "[?ISO-2022-JP?]" at "Jul 25, 96 08:20:17 pm" From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That is, The library function 'mblen(3)' doesn't return the error > when the second byte is not set MSB. > I make the following patch for this problem. ... > + /* '0x80-0x9f' are control codes */ > + if ((c = (unsigned char)*string++) < 0xa0) { I dislike this hardcoded assumption, because it makes sgetrune very charset-depended without proper configuration knobs. I.e. if it plans to sense control codes, it must be iscntrl() instead. Could you change this thing? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 21:28:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26030 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA26025 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id XAA29289; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 23:28:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 25 Jul 96 23:28 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 23:28:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607252304.QAA00810@shrimp.whistle.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Jul 25, 96 04:04:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > As Karl Denninger, MCSNet wrote: > > > > > Possible? Tutorials anywhere? Where do I get the list of collections and > > > common commands? > > > > dump 0 ... > > setenv CVSROOT ... > > cd /usr > > rm -rf src > > cvs co src > > cd src/sys/... > > (create new kernel, and see whether it will boot) > > cd /usr/src > mkdir /usr/obj > make bootstrap > > make world > > > > This should help upgrading, but it might fall apart somewhere in the Ok... Basically, the game appears to be as follows: Make sure you do NOT include EISA in the kernel config when you build the new kernel. Make sure to rebuild the "ld" and "make" programs, and install all their dependancies (including those in /usr/share) first. THEN, while make world still won't run all the way through, at least you'll get close enough to figure out what's going on when it breaks and fix the rest one bit at a time. :-) There are a bunch of dependencies here, and things which appear to be in the wrong order for a clean upgrade. I don't know if I'll get the time to try to fix all of this, but I'll give it a try. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed! From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 21:34:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26266 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [199.4.33.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA26248; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA00979; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:34:43 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199607260434.SAA00979@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: SCO and Wordperfect 7 problems (socksys) To: jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:34:43 -1000 (HST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from John Fieber at "Jul 25, 96 08:21:34 am" From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber >On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, David Langford wrote: > >> I am trying to install Wordperfect 7 for SCO and I am getting the folowing >> errors: >> >> libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address >> Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 > >Try setting the display to your (fully qualified) hostname. With >WP6.0, I couldn't even get started with :0.0 or unix:0.0 or >localhost:0.0, I had to use fallout.campusview.indiana.edu:0.0. >== jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== > No DISPLAY I get: /dev/X0R: No such file or directory Error: Can't open display: :0.0 DISPLAY = caliban (what hostname and /etc/hosts think machine is): /dev/X0R: No such file or directory Error: Can't open display: caliban:0.0 DISPLAY = fqdn0.0 libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address Error: Can't open display: caliban.dihelix.com:0.0 DISPLAY = 127.0.0.1:0.0 libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 I dont have any other SCO programs to try (any one know of some???) and I dont have the WP6.0 demo- guess I can download it... weeee. Is anyone using SCO X stuff (like Wordperfect) on current?? -David Langford From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 25 22:56:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00813 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00794 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.7.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id FAA06654; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 05:53:06 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:53:06 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" cc: A JOSEPH KOSHY , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS basics? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Karl Denninger, MCSNet wrote: > > Hi Karl, > > > > Regarding the build of -current starting with a 2.1.* base; I did this > > recently and found that you may need to selectively install some > > parts of the compilation system first. `make', `ld', some `includes' > > and `config' (for the kernel) come to mind. I installed `gcc' and `lib' > > too to be safe. > > > > You would need to run "make install" in the relevant directories to get the > > new versions on your system. > > > > After a few iterations "make world" will go thru fine. > > > > Koshy > > My personal opinions only. > > The trick I've found so far is that somehow the make profile for bsd.lib.mk > ended up with -Os in the LD lines! That won't work... Unless you bootstrap your ld. Mike From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 00:29:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA04868 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA04859; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA14186; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:25:28 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA13228; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:38:55 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607260738.JAA13228@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: SCO and Wordperfect 7 problems (socksys) To: langfod@dihelix.com (David Langford) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:38:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jfieber@indiana.edu, hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607260434.SAA00979@caliban.dihelix.com> from David Langford at "Jul 25, 96 06:34:43 pm" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > John Fieber > >On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, David Langford wrote: > > > >> I am trying to install Wordperfect 7 for SCO and I am getting the folowing > >> errors: > >> > >> libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address > >> Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 > > > >Try setting the display to your (fully qualified) hostname. With > >WP6.0, I couldn't even get started with :0.0 or unix:0.0 or > >localhost:0.0, I had to use fallout.campusview.indiana.edu:0.0. > >== jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== > > > > No DISPLAY I get: > > /dev/X0R: No such file or directory > Error: Can't open display: :0.0 > > DISPLAY = caliban (what hostname and /etc/hosts think machine is): > > /dev/X0R: No such file or directory > Error: Can't open display: caliban:0.0 > > DISPLAY = fqdn0.0 > > libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address > libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address > libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address > Error: Can't open display: caliban.dihelix.com:0.0 > > DISPLAY = 127.0.0.1:0.0 > > libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address > Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 > > I dont have any other SCO programs to try (any one know of some???) > and I dont have the WP6.0 demo- guess I can download it... weeee. > > Is anyone using SCO X stuff (like Wordperfect) on current?? > > -David Langford > Wasn't the clue just to do a touch /dev/socksys ? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 01:53:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA12361 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 01:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [199.4.33.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA12324; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 01:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA00291; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:52:36 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199607260852.WAA00291@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: SCO and Wordperfect 7 problems (socksys) To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:52:36 -1000 (HST) Cc: langfod@dihelix.com, jfieber@indiana.edu, hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607260738.JAA13228@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at "Jul 26, 96 09:38:54 am" From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> DISPLAY = 127.0.0.1:0.0 >> libsocket: socket: /dev/socksys: No such device or address >> Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 >> >> I dont have any other SCO programs to try (any one know of some???) >> and I dont have the WP6.0 demo- guess I can download it... weeee. >> Is anyone using SCO X stuff (like Wordperfect) on current?? >> -David Langford > >Wasn't the clue just to do a touch /dev/socksys ? >--Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de Well I found this problemn out. MAKEDEV seems to create socksys as a device: MAKEDEV:socksys) MAKEDEV: rm -f socksys nfsd spx MAKEDEV: mknod socksys c 41 0 >-----^ MAKEDEV: mknod spx c 41 1 MAKEDEV: ln -s socksys nfsd MAKEDEV: chown root.wheel socksys nfsd spx MAKEDEV: chmod 666 socksys nfsd spx MAKEDEV: ;; removing socksys and linking it to /dev/null was the right trick. I assumed that MAKEDEV would do the right thing. ot that part out of the way. Now on to the next problem: % SCO/_I/wpinstg agre -bg grey Segmentation fault (core dumped) Last part of ktrace I have right now is: ... 276 wpinstg NAMI "shared/m_agre" 276 wpinstg RET open 4 276 wpinstg CALL ioctl(0x4,0x5401 ,0xefbfd6ba) 276 wpinstg RET ioctl -1 errno 25 Inappropriate ioctl for device 276 wpinstg CALL sendmsg(0x4,0xefbfd6a8) 276 wpinstg RET sendmsg 0 276 wpinstg CALL read(0x4,0x767de8,0x400) 276 wpinstg GIO fd 4 read 609 bytes "PREV_BUTTON= COMMENT=WordPerfect 7 for UNIX Systems blah blah blah Comment=DONE " 276 wpinstg RET read 609/0x261 276 wpinstg CALL read(0x4,0x767de8,0x400) 276 wpinstg GIO fd 4 read 0 bytes "" 276 wpinstg RET read 0 276 wpinstg CALL close(0x4) 276 wpinstg RET close 0 276 wpinstg PSIG SIGSEGV SIG_DFL 276 wpinstg NAMI "wpinstg.core" Not too helpful... trudging along. -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 07:36:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29709 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29700 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id JAA16695; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:35:29 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199607261435.JAA16695@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: $100 HACKING CONTEST! To: jbenson@nando.net (James Benson) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:35:28 -0500 (CDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4t8tii$7cm@castle.nando.net> from "James Benson" at Jul 25, 96 10:47:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Finally, something new to hack (or at least try to)! Check out our > contest at: > > http://www.webbuild.com/~jbenson/contest.html > > Good luck! (You'll need it....) This isn't hacking, this is cracking, and not very exciting at that. Want to add a little excitement? Provide the algorithm. A good encryption algorithm can stand on its own, and in theory will not provide much helpful information when breaking it. Example: DES, a relatively strong encryption algorithm based on data loss, tables, and bit operations. Granted, a 56-bit key is not too strong these days, but the theories behind DES still appear to be quite reasonable and secure. A bad encryption algorithm might appear relatively strong at first, because it is REALLY easy to scramble bits, but an analysis of the encryption algorithm might suggest a trivial way to either break the code or substantially reduce the size of the search space. An encryption product with a shoddy algorithm is worth about as much as a copy of /bin/cat. Even if you do not provide source, people will still determine how the tool works by reverse engineering (disassembling), and if the algorithm is weak, it will be easy to break. If the algorithm is strong, ... Good luck, ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 08:13:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01586 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (root@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01575 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA27929 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 23:12:28 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 22:54:26 GMT From: mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au (Mark Hannon) Message-ID: Organization: Private FreeBSD site Subject: mfs /tmp, ffs /tmp or -pipe Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've just been playing around with different ways to compile the kernel. My, completely simple, measurement of kernel compile time on a 2.1.5 P-100 are: ffs /tmp : 7:50 seconds mfs /tmp : 7:30 seconds (with TMPDIR=/tmp) cc -pipe : 7:22 seconds Fairly inconclusive and probably not repeatable. Anyway, what I am asking is are there any documented advantages of using an mfs /tmp?? Is -pipe a better option for compiles?? Rgds/mark -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Mark Hannon,| FreeBSD - Free Unix for your PC| mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au| | Melbourne, | PGP key available by fingering | epamha@epa.ericsson.se | | Australia | seeware@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au | | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 08:24:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01846 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01825; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11010; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607261519.JAA11010@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "David Langford" Cc: jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber), hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCO and Wordperfect 7 problems (socksys) In-Reply-To: <199607260434.SAA00979@caliban.dihelix.com> References: <199607260434.SAA00979@caliban.dihelix.com> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is anyone using SCO X stuff (like Wordperfect) on current?? Yep. However, all of my /dev stuff is in /compat/ibcs2. I'm on a business trip right now so I can't show you what's it's supposed to look like, but it works. Also, are you running -current, or a 2.2-SNAP? Nate From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 08:35:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02379 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from minnow.render.com (render.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02371; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by minnow.render.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA29350; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:36:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:36:55 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: VFS interface manpages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1032464557-838395415=:24582" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1032464557-838395415=:24582 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is what I have so far. Unpack in /usr/src/share/man/man9 and patch the Makefile. Comments, criticism, manpages I haven't written yet, all welcome :-). -- Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. 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owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 08:36:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02461 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02454 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA03083; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:36:13 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199607261536.KAA03083@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: mfs /tmp, ffs /tmp or -pipe To: mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au (Mark Hannon) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:36:12 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mark Hannon" at Jul 26, 96 10:54:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > I've just been playing around with different ways to compile > the kernel. > > My, completely simple, measurement of kernel compile time > on a 2.1.5 P-100 are: > > ffs /tmp : 7:50 seconds > mfs /tmp : 7:30 seconds (with TMPDIR=/tmp) > cc -pipe : 7:22 seconds > > Fairly inconclusive and probably not repeatable. Anyway, > what I am asking is are there any documented advantages of > using an mfs /tmp?? Is -pipe a better option for compiles?? > I would expect that -pipe is best unless you are low on memory. You might actually find that 'ffs /tmp' is best on a 4MB or 8MB machine. I normally use an 'mfs /tmp' so that I don't have to change whatever makefiles that I have. John From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 09:48:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07588 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from minnow.render.com (render.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07580; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by minnow.render.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA29471; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:49:44 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:49:43 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VFS interface manpages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Doug Rabson wrote: > This is what I have so far. Unpack in /usr/src/share/man/man9 and patch > the Makefile. Comments, criticism, manpages I haven't written yet, all > welcome :-). Also available as ftp://freefall.freebsd.org/pub/incoming/vopdoc-960726.tar.gz -- Doug Rabson, Microsoft RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.com Phone: +44 171 251 4411 FAX: +44 171 251 0939 From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 10:03:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA08900 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kilgour.nething.com (kilgour.nething.com [204.253.210.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08888 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RANDY (randy.nething.com [204.253.210.83]) by kilgour.nething.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA13115 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 11:59:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 11:59:13 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960726115641.37af8a44@nething.com> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: Re: $100 HACKING CONTEST! Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Finally, something new to hack (or at least try to)! Check out our > contest at: > > http://www.webbuild.com/~jbenson/contest.html > > Good luck! (You'll need it....) Maybe I spend too much time reading detective fiction, but consider the following conversation: Fred: "Damn, we can't crack these files. If we don't do this soon, the people we stole them from might find out we got them, and they'll change the bank account access codes." George: "Well, I can't do it. Wait a minute, why not enlist everyone on the web? Some propeller head breaks the code, we pay him $100, then transfer 3 or 4 million to the Bahamas." Just a thought ......... Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm caught in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 10:04:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA09029 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09021 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA27043; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:59:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607261659.KAA27043@rover.village.org> To: A JOSEPH KOSHY Subject: Re: CVS basics? Cc: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:36:17 +0530 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:59:41 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk About two weeks ago, I upgraded a 2.1-stable (Aprilish) to a 2.2-current system. Here's what I did as root rm -rf /usr/obj ln -s /bigdisk/usr/obj /usr/obj rm -rf /usr/src ln -s /bigdisk/usr/src /usr/src cd /usr/src cvs -d /bigdisk/FreeBSDCVS checkout src cd src/usr.bin/make make depend all install cd ../../gnu/usr.bin/ld make depend all install cd ../../.. make world reboot I then used the new configure to configure and build a new kernel. I then rebooted right away after I installed the new kernel. You can run 2.2-current binaries with a 2.1 kernel, but there are many that don't work (ps, vmstat, etc). The above translates into "do level 0 backups; blow away what you have; build make; build ld; make world; reboot and build a kernel" I don't know if additional dependencies have crept in since then or not. Warner P.S. I may have forgotten or added extra .. above. From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 10:45:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11558 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.Sarnoff.COM (terra.sarnoff.com [130.33.11.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11553 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rminnich@localhost) by terra.Sarnoff.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA07008; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:44:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:44:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ron G. Minnich" X-Sender: rminnich@terra To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: So will this run or not :-) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a file which needs to have text at a fairly high place. So i do: p0 24% make cc -o zclient -T 100000 zclient.o ../lib/libzounds.a Now, now errors. I can also: p0 25% file ./zclient ./zclient: FreeBSD/i386 demand paged dynamically linked executable not stripped looks good so far. BUT: p0 26% ./zclient ./zclient: Exec format error. Wrong Architecture. ??. I have not looked too much at this yet, but I am now. ron Ron Minnich |"If you leave out all the killings, D.C. has as rminnich@sarnoff.com | low a crime rate as many cities" -- (609)-734-3120 | D.C. Mayor Marion Barry ftp://ftp.sarnoff.com/pub/mnfs/www/docs/cluster.html From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 10:57:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12201 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.Sarnoff.COM (terra.sarnoff.com [130.33.11.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12191 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rminnich@localhost) by terra.Sarnoff.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA07135; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:56:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:56:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ron G. Minnich" X-Sender: rminnich@terra To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: -T appears to be a can of worms: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk p0 63% cc -o zclient -T 4096 zclient.o ../lib/libzounds.a p0 64% nm zclient Segmentation fault (core dumped) p0 65% I'm going to look at this at some point but if anyone has any thoughts I would appreciate them. This is 2.1R, sorry I should have mentioned that first. ron Ron Minnich |"If you leave out all the killings, D.C. has as rminnich@sarnoff.com | low a crime rate as many cities" -- (609)-734-3120 | D.C. Mayor Marion Barry ftp://ftp.sarnoff.com/pub/mnfs/www/docs/cluster.html From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 12:13:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17117 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17111 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad29058; 26 Jul 96 19:13 GMT Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa21422; 26 Jul 96 20:12 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: mfs /tmp, ffs /tmp or -pipe References: <199607261535.IAA02391@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 18:38:52 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk owner-hackers-digest@freefall.freebsd.org wrote: > Hi, > I've just been playing around with different ways to compile the kernel. > My, completely simple, measurement of kernel compile time on a 2.1.5 > P-100 are: > ffs /tmp : 7:50 seconds mfs /tmp : 7:30 seconds (with TMPDIR=/tmp) cc > -pipe : 7:22 seconds > Fairly inconclusive and probably not repeatable. Anyway, what I am > asking is are there any documented advantages of using an mfs /tmp?? Is > -pipe a better option for compiles?? I haven't tried using mfs, and these are not kernel compile times, but any large compile should be similar for comparing makes. I got 198-201 seconds real, of which 86-87% was used, whatever options were used, when using the system make. Using gmake (still with ffs /tmp), this dropped to 189.57 seconds real, 87.2% used. Using -pipe with gmake, this actually increased to 192.43 seconds real, 88.6% used. The real improvement was when I used -pipe with -j. Using -j2, -j3 and -j4 I got similar results, but the best for me was -j3, which completed in 176.28 seconds real, of which 97.6% was used. -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 12:21:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17588 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.zeus.leitch.com (gateway.zeus.leitch.com [205.210.38.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17579 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tap.zeus.leitch.com (0@tap.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.60.10]) by gateway.zeus.leitch.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA07501 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:40:46 -0400 Received: from ale.zeus.leitch.com (0@ale.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.61.65]) by tap.zeus.leitch.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA04487 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:22:01 -0400 From: Dave Chapeskie Received: (dchapes@localhost) by ale.zeus.leitch.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01514 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:22:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199607261922.PAA01514@ale.zeus.leitch.com> Subject: Asynchronous IO - Posix AIO To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:22:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have need of an AIO subsystem and have been thinking about how I might do a partial Posix AIO implementation under FreeBSD. Has anyone else given this any thoughts? Would this best be done via a user side library, via new system calls, via a mix of both, etc. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. [Please cc me directly if you reply to this mailing list as I often miss things on the mailing list] -- Dave Chapeskie Leitch Technology International Inc. Email: dchapes@zeus.leitch.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 12:46:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19149 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scooter.quickweb.com (scooter.quickweb.com [199.212.134.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19135 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by scooter.quickweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21988 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:49:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:49:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Mayo To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: PPro Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there - I was wondering if many people have experience with PPro servers running FreeBSD. I just picked up a Digital Celebris XL 6150 Pentium Pro (150MHz), and I installed FreeBSD 2.1R - no problems with the install, the DEC uses an NCR on-board SCSI Bios / COntroller, and everthing worked fine (the Celebris line use daughter cards to hold the CPU and Ram so you can switch between ALpha's and PPro's..) I was wondering if the following 'time' result is reasonable (for a kernel rebuild, all options - seemed like a good benchmark to me :-)). The machine only has 16 MB of RAM. The reason I ask is that I'm curious if a "normal" pentium 200 with SRAM would be faster.. Anyways, the results: $ time make . . 183.8u 32.6s 5:20.20 67.9% 989+1207K 1380+59565io 61pf + 0w Any experience/opinions of the Pentium Pro's would be greatly appreciated. -Mark ------------------------------------------- | Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com | | C-Soft www.quickweb.com | ------------------------------------------- "To iterate is human, to recurse divine." - L. Peter Deutsch From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 12:48:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19325 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kechara.flame.org (kechara.flame.org [192.80.44.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19313 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from explorer@localhost) by kechara.flame.org (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA10203; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:47:09 -0400 (EDT) To: Randy Berndt Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: $100 HACKING CONTEST! References: <2.2.16.19960726115641.37af8a44@nething.com> From: Michael Graff Date: 26 Jul 1996 15:47:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: Randy Berndt's message of Fri, 26 Jul 1996 11:59:13 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.36/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randy Berndt writes: > Maybe I spend too much time reading detective fiction, but consider the > following conversation: I just assumed that the person thought ``well, RSA129 took 9 months, 1400 machines, and all they made was $100... This will be a cheap test!'' Make it $5000 and I'll give you results. :) --Michael From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 13:19:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA21577 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21563 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA03121; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:19:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 26 Jul 96 15:19 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:19:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: koshy@india.hp.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607261659.KAA27043@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Jul 26, 96 10:59:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > About two weeks ago, I upgraded a 2.1-stable (Aprilish) to a > 2.2-current system. Here's what I did as root > > > rm -rf /usr/obj > ln -s /bigdisk/usr/obj /usr/obj > rm -rf /usr/src > ln -s /bigdisk/usr/src /usr/src > cd /usr/src > cvs -d /bigdisk/FreeBSDCVS checkout src > cd src/usr.bin/make > make depend all install > cd ../../gnu/usr.bin/ld > make depend all install > cd ../../.. > make world > > reboot > > I then used the new configure to configure and build a new kernel. I > then rebooted right away after I installed the new kernel. You can > run 2.2-current binaries with a 2.1 kernel, but there are many that > don't work (ps, vmstat, etc). > > The above translates into "do level 0 backups; blow away what you > have; build make; build ld; make world; reboot and build a kernel" > I don't know if additional dependencies have crept in since then or > not. > > Warner > > P.S. I may have forgotten or added extra .. above. Well, there seems to be a few problems with this. Like tcl being listed in the Makefiles under src/contrib as a target, but src/contrib is EMPTY. At least in the supped copy I got from sup.freebsd.org when grabbing the collection cvs-supfile it is... Have people actually tried building this starting with: 1) A USER load of the operating system (no ports, etc) 2) A Supped copy of the CVS tree? What am I missing here? The problem isn't incompatibile utilities any longer; I got beyond that. The problem now is that it appears that there are dependancies listed in the makefiles that no longer exist! -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed! From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 14:27:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29013 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28993 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA02648; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:24:27 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607262124.PAA02648@rover.village.org> To: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Subject: Re: CVS basics? Cc: koshy@india.hp.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:19:49 CDT Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:24:26 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : Like tcl being listed in the Makefiles under src/contrib as a target, but : src/contrib is EMPTY. src/contrib, in my latest CVS tree, has tcl in it. However, my top level makefile has contrib commented out. In fact, this was commented out before I did my make world of two weeks ago (I waited for it, since I saw something in the mailing lists at the time). : At least in the supped copy I got from sup.freebsd.org when grabbing the : collection cvs-supfile it is... : : Have people actually tried building this starting with: : : 1) A USER load of the operating system (no ports, etc) : 2) A Supped copy of the CVS tree? : : What am I missing here? The problem isn't incompatibile utilities any : longer; I got beyond that. The problem now is that it appears that there : are dependancies listed in the makefiles that no longer exist! Sounds like we've got smoe skew (or you have some skew) between the CVS world and the SUP world. I've had no problems with freshly updated CVS trees coming in via CTM. Warner From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 14:30:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29522 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29500 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA02803 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:30:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607262130.PAA02803@rover.village.org> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: FYI: GCC update Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:30:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It appears that gcc 2.7.3 will now be called 2.7.2.1. Just wanted to let people that are working on this know. No new patches have been released for testing since the last batch. I will be happy to let interested parties know (and I can think of at least two people off the top of my head :-). If there is a more appropriate place to send newish things like this, please let me know. Warner From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 14:34:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29853 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29845 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id QAA06877; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:34:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 26 Jul 96 16:34 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:34:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: koshy@india.hp.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607262124.PAA02648@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Jul 26, 96 03:24:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > : Like tcl being listed in the Makefiles under src/contrib as a target, but > : src/contrib is EMPTY. > > src/contrib, in my latest CVS tree, has tcl in it. However, my top > level makefile has contrib commented out. In fact, this was commented > out before I did my make world of two weeks ago (I waited for it, > since I saw something in the mailing lists at the time). The SUPFILE on ftp.freebsd.ORG for the CVS tree does NOT have the contrib directory listed in it *AT ALL*. I have fixed this. That supfile hasn't been modified in a long time. Now we'll see what other surprises are out there.... > : At least in the supped copy I got from sup.freebsd.org when grabbing the > : collection cvs-supfile it is... > : > : Have people actually tried building this starting with: > : > : 1) A USER load of the operating system (no ports, etc) > : 2) A Supped copy of the CVS tree? > : > : What am I missing here? The problem isn't incompatibile utilities any > : longer; I got beyond that. The problem now is that it appears that there > : are dependancies listed in the makefiles that no longer exist! > > Sounds like we've got smoe skew (or you have some skew) between the > CVS world and the SUP world. I've had no problems with freshly > updated CVS trees coming in via CTM. > > Warner Folks, can someone please check this stuff out and at least get some assurance out there that when someone follows all the procedures that what they grab has some chance of being complete? I don't expect this to be painless, but when entire parts of the collection are missing it makes things darn difficult! -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed! From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 14:45:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00818 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00811 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA02392; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.whistle.com(207.76.205.74) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma002390; Fri Jul 26 14:44:26 1996 Received: (from julian@localhost) by shrimp.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA20811; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:44:26 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607262144.OAA20811@shrimp.whistle.com> Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger, MCSNet) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: imp@village.org, koshy@india.hp.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" at Jul 26, 96 03:19:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Like tcl being listed in the Makefiles under src/contrib as a target, but > src/contrib is EMPTY. get a new supfile from usr/share/examples > > At least in the supped copy I got from sup.freebsd.org when grabbing the > collection cvs-supfile it is... From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 14:50:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01288 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01254 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id QAA07527; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:49:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 26 Jul 96 16:49 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: CVS basics? To: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:49:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" Cc: imp@village.org, koshy@india.hp.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607262144.OAA20811@shrimp.whistle.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Jul 26, 96 02:44:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Like tcl being listed in the Makefiles under src/contrib as a target, but > > src/contrib is EMPTY. > get a new supfile from usr/share/examples > > > > > At least in the supped copy I got from sup.freebsd.org when grabbing the > > collection cvs-supfile it is... I realize that now. But why are the copies on the ftp site, which are supposed to be THE canonical versions, out of date? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed! From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 14:51:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01622 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hon.hn ([206.48.105.210]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01568; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ser@localhost) by hon.hn (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03502; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:51:14 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:51:14 +0000 () From: "Samuel E. Romero" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: Help with name server reverse lookup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have setup (I thougth) a FreeBSD (2.1.5) server with name server, and I'm able to connect to the internet (I'm sending this from a machine connected to the server). The name server works finding addresses, but I was trying to connect to ftp://ftp.uu.net and this is the message I received: (part of it) Sorry, we're unable to map your IP address 206.48.253.70 to a hostname in the DNS. This is probably because your nameserver does not have matching A and PTR record for your address in its tables, or because your reverse nameservers are not registered. Whe I do a 'nslookup 206.48.253.70' it responds with si1.hon.hn but when I do a 'nslookup 206.48.253.70 my.isp.ns' it responds with 'my.isp.ns can't find 206.48.253.70: Non-existent host/domain'. If I do a 'nslookup si1.hon.hn my.isp.ns' it responds with si1.hon.hn and 206.48.253.70. What can I fix the error? Thanks From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 15:12:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06859 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06836; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA17913; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:13:09 -0600 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:13:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: hardware@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all. Maybe you could help me figure out what's giving me these problems. On this particular computer I get these kind of errors a *lot*, almost always with the same instruction pointer. (This is running 2.1.5R, I had the same problems with 2.1R). Sometimes the machine will even "Freeze" and reboot in the middle of doing something with no warning..:] -- Fatal tral 12: page fault while in kernel mode Fault virtual address = 0xfc7 Fault code = supervisor read, page not present Instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0181de2 Code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 0 Processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 Current process = 249 (cpp) Interrupt mask = panic: page fault -- As I said it almost always happens on the same instruction pointer. The process can be anything but it usually occurs with gcc (such as when compiling the kernel, I can't even get a minute or two into the compile). Hardware: 16meg of parity ram, AMD DX4/100, SiS 85c471 chipset motherboard (ick!) with VLB bus, Adaptec 284x SCSI controller, S3 video card, etc. I will most likely be replacing the motherboard with a better one, but I would like to know if this is going to fix it? Thanks for any tips, pointers, ideas you can give me.. Forgive me if I type of message is not welcome in one or both of these mailing lists. - Steve - Systems Manager - Community Internet Access - http://www.cia-g.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 15:28:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA09419 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA09323; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA04914; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:28:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:28:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: "Samuel E. Romero" cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with name server reverse lookup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Samuel E. Romero wrote: > I have setup (I thougth) a FreeBSD (2.1.5) server with name server, and I'm > able to connect to the internet (I'm sending this from a machine > connected to the server). The name server works finding addresses, but I > was trying to connect to ftp://ftp.uu.net and this is the message I > received: (part of it) > > Sorry, we're unable to map your IP address 206.48.253.70 to a hostname > in the DNS. This is probably because your nameserver does not have > matching A and PTR record for your address in its tables, or because > your reverse nameservers are not registered. > > Whe I do a 'nslookup 206.48.253.70' it responds with si1.hon.hn but when I > do a 'nslookup 206.48.253.70 my.isp.ns' it responds with 'my.isp.ns can't > find 206.48.253.70: Non-existent host/domain'. If I do a 'nslookup > si1.hon.hn my.isp.ns' it responds with si1.hon.hn and 206.48.253.70. > > What can I fix the error? > > Thanks > > Your ISP will have to forward the requests for reverse lookup to your machine. Secondly, you would have to listed with the Internic as either the primary or secondary nameserver for your domain in order for others to use your nameserver to resolve IP's. Chances are, your ISP hasn't setup the reverse lookup for your IP's. Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 15:38:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA11243 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from julian@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA11235 for hackers; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:38:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199607262238.PAA11235@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hackers Subject: anFreeBSD based job going.. Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk if you fit the following description.. understand sockets, routing, freebsd initialisation etc.. can use awk. Once used yacc for something.. find working a pain because it interferes with hacking and anyway you can't get anything done these days because you spend the whole day answering people's inane questions (e.g. "what are the arguments to tar?") Could do with spending some time in San Francisco (FreeBSD-central) and get payed for it.. AND you think I might have seen your name around the lists enough to know that you know what you are talking about, then there are three opennings here at whistle.. 1/ we need people urgently, so starting on a quick contract would be possible for a short while. 2/ we need people in the long run, so if you're looking for work..... kind of work.. that depends but what I'm seeing around here now..... getting appletalk to run well with freebsd ditto samba ditto mail agents ditto news server stuff ditto web servers etc. java system admin stuff. possibly device drivers possibly mbone stuff CGI stuff. We're swamped now with work so please help (and get payed) we're even open to: I'll port package X and support it for $xxxx + $yy per hour type of things.. if there's enough interest we can make a list of those things we need, but they probably need to be running in our own (slightly different) environment.. so it would be hard unless you have spare machines to dedicate to this.. however we certainly would like to know who is expertr in what packages so we can use them (and pay them) when we have specific problems.. resumes are required for those that I haven't seen evidence of work from, but if you've been contributing and are known in BSD land then we have a "fast track" we can use.. julian send email to julian@freebsd.org or julian@whistle.com From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 16:13:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA12680 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cbgw2.att.com (cbgw2.att.com [192.20.239.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12671 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aloft by cbig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id TAA11654; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 19:12:31 -0400 Received: from stargazer (stargazer.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA25669; Fri, 26 Jul 96 19:13:56 EDT Received: by stargazer (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA26864; Fri, 26 Jul 96 19:13:53 EDT Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 19:13:53 EDT From: gtc@aloft.att.com (gary.corcoran) Message-Id: <9607262313.AA26864@stargazer> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: hackers-digest truncated Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The last hackers-digest I received (number 1335) was truncated approximately half the way through the digest, as shown by the "In this issue" at the start. Is this an email problem with our machines, or did majordomo mess up the digest? That is, has anyone else receiving the digest seen this truncation problem today? Gary From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 17:09:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16032 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16027 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matrix.eden.com (xaviour@matrix.T10.nfs.eden.com [206.81.225.193]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA29252 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 19:09:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 19:09:22 -0500 (CDT) From: xaviour X-Sender: xaviour@matrix.eden.com To: hackers@freebsd.com Subject: boot problems with freebsd 2.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I boot off the floopy, and install freebsd 2.1 no problem, then when I'm finished i reboot - no problem.. but when I select f2 to boot freebsd it goes foobar. This is what happens, I get to the prompt (enter) or the /kernel -c such things, press enter and it hangs right then. Its a hard hang too req powering down. I'v also tried with the -c no dice ether. I'v also tried removied each card on the chance it was an conflict. Machine: 486dx4 120 12megRam | Stealth64x2meg | paradise eide | 2.1g segate | 420m conner | sb16 | ti33.6 | sms cd controler. xaviour@eden.com +--[eden.com tech support]--------------------------------------------------+ | "The Babylon project was our last best hope for peace, it failed in the | | year of the shadow war it became our last best hope for victory." | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Gee Hilery whatter we going to do tonight?" "The same thing we do evernight Bill, try to take over the internet." From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 26 18:46:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA25112 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 18:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palin.cc.monash.edu.au (palin.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.2.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25084; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 18:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (peter@localhost) by palin.cc.monash.edu.au (8.7.3/8.6.4) id LAA13202; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:46:37 +1000 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:46:37 +1000 From: Peter Hawkins Message-Id: <199607270146.LAA13202@palin.cc.monash.edu.au> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, ser@hon.hn Subject: Re: Help with name server reverse lookup Cc: freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please mail me your named.boot and the zone and reverse files and I will see if I can fix it. Peter From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 01:04:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA21140 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trapdoor.dstc.edu.au (root@trapdoor.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA21126 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scry.dstc.edu.au (scry.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.222]) by trapdoor.dstc.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA19956 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:04:47 +1000 Received: (from d@localhost) by scry.dstc.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01668 for hackers@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:04:55 +1000 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:04:55 +1000 From: David Leonard Message-Id: <199607270804.SAA01668@scry.dstc.edu.au> To: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject: /devs/yes0 Reply-To: leonard@dstc.edu.au Something you might be interested in. its the result of my fiddling around with lkm device drivers.... the 'yes' device :) you need DEVFS and a sense of humour. begin 664 yes.tar.gz M'XL(``O-^3$``^P\:7?;1I+Y2OR*MGP!"D^=,V*HC"(RCB8Z_"0YV6PFCP," M31$C$&!P2&:R_N];1S=.VK+S5O+.1$AL@WU455=75U=55V,IX\Z)?2VGGB^_ MN*>GU^WN[&R)+P0^7?JWM[6M?L-[=Z,KQ$YO=V>SV^WN;D-);WMGXPO1O2^" MBD\:)W8DQ!=1&"8?:N?*&^D_!$$/^SPUGHIG1^Z>T$+0O!&]]H;H_?6O.YWN M;F=C5W0W]C:W]C:WA2_#P(Y<,7J[$,^,IX9Q>-AH#,25XQB'WQX?O+K`7ZWA M]Z/ST]&Q^(?1:`CX>7!X^>;@^/BG\?'W)^/3L\MQI7XX^N';B^S7Z4^CB\&& M_OFC[?OZ_:B3QE''"QP_=:7^&4=.)U[&'=WHZLJ=B-:9,(R3L^&;XQ%2M)2Q MG-@4M6K%]OMT#``WYYX9G)GB^L2^-\P"H78`@%:1N.9 M>3RT1"L2K5`\^UM6;CB^M(.]!C8X/[%*$%6;O"S'X8>VNU=IK-['7@""ZOM& M8QZZV$ZT;D1+YD!:BUK;(B3#2`,";S1:`(%_B%90P`#%AO&YY?'Q>=@'9*]S M/CH8GHSN#\<=^G]C`W5^6?]W>[N/^O\A'@.UHS&4L1-YB\0+`V.0/X9Q.?-B M`?_;@0"U*:9A)&P!K/`<*=S(NY&12&9V(B(9R_G$ES'\E*C0S)XEDC#TVX9Q M@+]U)P<@A8&_%!,IPH4,I"LF2RB18A&%CHP!50(H$F\NV^+'F0P`M.TV#2\1 MMQZHM#A=+*`W0/&"J1=XB11Q`DWF(IP2;ALZ+*2=`&"H\(*KMKB<2?4N#!P. 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MP<6L=NWBO15T\S9Q,;1VP(L,R;3V*(_J5`4@_2AH5=5LT"!^E5@DJZ/$EECY M3D'8@L\!EA6^M\@J])]XQ].DS[A;-P6RZ"JI=L<34<8$X3EM]`@D3@*ZY9+C M!.2SI/.5!WS,*':;[3[(D9"6R]T1G5;N&<;J=`;<;+:7,V4@TA?Y>N3V+[TW M(&%L[1MZ%=J0P_&?PD80OOG)^$<_J3K*N'241B.5Z8*XG/3@<@,U:@VKTD-V M\L4OS07,S%2(:)GU3I34LV-R-T.DPJZEW)FQRC,=S#MI9O"VZD5;G.C,DB[8 MYCJ0JI$?F)7G\#P0P\KW-B#\EO4[58,GR?"E]0H&-3FT2RS>V;KTI+H%$1`P MFN4;U6VK&4J=Z]#F+E;&H-A6G]`416,-GL]J#PR9,6#4#R8-`2#\]Y+LQ(D3 :)TZ<.''BQ(D3)TZ<.''RI_(%`@9&70!X``!J ` end From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 01:46:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24010 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jau.csc.fi (root@jau.csc.fi [193.166.1.196]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA24000 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jau@localhost) by jau.csc.fi (8.7.5/8.6.12+CSC-2.1) id LAA08746 for hackers@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:45:21 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jukka Ukkonen Message-Id: <199607270845.LAA08746@jau.csc.fi> Subject: A minor fix to df manual pages... To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:45:20 +0300 (EET DST) Reply-To: jau@iki.fi Latin-Date: Simbata XXVII Iulie a.d. MCMXCVI Organization: Private person Phone: +358-0-6215280 (home) Content-Conversion: prohibited X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25+pgp] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi everybody! The manual page of df called cd9660 file systems by the name isofs while the df command itself used the name iso9660fs or cdfs. Both of these were inconsistent with the name cd9660 which is used by the mount command. I modified df to recognize all of the names cd9660, cdfs, isofs, and iso9660fs, and take them all to refer to the same thing. Naturally I added a note of this behaviour in the manual page too. Cheers, // jau ------ / Jukka A. Ukkonen, FUNET / Centre for Scientific Computing /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) Tel: (Home&Fax) +358-0-6215280 / Internet: jau@iki.fi (Work) +358-0-4573208 / Internet: jau@funet.fi (Mobile) +358-400-606671 v Internet: ukkonen@csc.fi o \ / - X ------------------------- clip clip ------------------------------ / \ O --- df.1.orig Sat Sep 24 05:55:08 1994 +++ df.1 Sat Jul 27 11:28:35 1996 @@ -78,11 +78,14 @@ .It Fl t Only print out statistics for filesystems of the specified types. The recognized types are: -ufs, nfs, mfs, lfs, msdos, fdesc, portal, kernfs, procfs, afs and isofs. +ufs, nfs, mfs, lfs, msdos, fdesc, portal, kernfs, procfs, afs, isofs, +iso9660fs, cdfs, and cd9660, along with the aggregates: all (the default), -local (ufs, mfs, lfs, msdos, isofs), +local (ufs, mfs, lfs, msdos, cd9660), and misc (fdesc, portal, kernfs, procfs). +The names isofs, iso9660fs, cdfs, and cd9660 are aliases to each other +all of them refering to the same type of file system. The string ``no'' may be prepending to a type to get its complement (e.g. ``nonfs'' to get non-NFS filesystems). The first .Fl t --- df.c.orig Tue May 30 03:06:42 1995 +++ df.c Sat Jul 27 11:18:27 1996 @@ -95,6 +95,8 @@ {"procfs", MT(MOUNT_PROCFS)}, {"afs", MT(MOUNT_AFS)}, {"iso9660fs", MT(MOUNT_CD9660)}, + {"isofs", MT(MOUNT_CD9660)}, + {"cd9660", MT(MOUNT_CD9660)}, {"cdfs", MT(MOUNT_CD9660)}, {"misc", MT(MOUNT_LOFS)|MT(MOUNT_FDESC)|MT(MOUNT_PORTAL)| MT(MOUNT_KERNFS)|MT(MOUNT_PROCFS)}, From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 03:48:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA28787 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 03:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frya.zgik.zaporizhzhe.ua (frya.zgik.zaporizhzhe.ua [193.124.62.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA28757 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 03:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bcs.UUCP by frya.zgik.zaporizhzhe.ua with UUCP id NAA20710; (8.7.5/vak+evp/1.8e) Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:39:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by relay1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (uumail v1.5/ache) id AA03751; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:19:32 +0300 Received: from bcs1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (bcs1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua [193.124.62.71]) by relay1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA03748 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:19:31 +0300 Received: by bcs1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua id AA08996 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG); Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:19:30 +0300 Subject: Gateway X.25-->TCP/IP From: NEWS-READER To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 11:33:31 +0300 (UKR) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <9607261133.aa17964@savbank.zaporizhzhe.ua> Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 26/07/96 Victor Fofin wrote: How do I from my FreeBSDbox gateway X.25--->TCP/IP ? What for this need (hard,soft ...) ? If this impossible what for /sys/netccitt code ? And please, forgive my poor english . Thanks, Victor From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 04:45:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA03219 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03194 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id NAA21584; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:45:04 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id NAA27424; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:45:04 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA28959; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:13:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607270913.LAA28959@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: -T appears to be a can of worms: To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:13:23 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: rminnich@Sarnoff.COM (Ron G. Minnich) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Ron G. Minnich" at "Jul 26, 96 01:56:41 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ron G. Minnich wrote: > p0 63% cc -o zclient -T 4096 zclient.o ../lib/libzounds.a > p0 64% nm zclient > Segmentation fault (core dumped) You are not supposed to use -T loadaddr unless you know what you're doing... (e.g. when you're linking a kernel). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 04:45:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA03285 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03263 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id NAA21593; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:45:07 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id NAA27426; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:45:07 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA29771; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 12:31:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607271031.MAA29771@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: So will this run or not :-) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 12:31:11 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: rminnich@Sarnoff.COM (Ron G. Minnich) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Ron G. Minnich" at "Jul 26, 96 01:44:39 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ron G. Minnich wrote: > I have a file which needs to have text at a fairly high place. So i do: Why? > p0 24% make > cc -o zclient -T 100000 zclient.o ../lib/libzounds.a This is certainly wrong. The -T option is a `special purpose' one, and i think only used to link the kernel by now. The exact mapping of the text and data segment is a matter of the kernel (imgact_aout.c, i suppose), and nothing you can simply change by relinking the binary to another address. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 04:45:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA03366 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03298; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id NAA21613; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:45:18 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id NAA27430; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:45:18 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA29344; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:52:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607270952.LAA29344@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode To: lithium@cia-g.com (Stephen Fisher) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:52:51 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Stephen Fisher at "Jul 26, 96 04:13:08 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Stephen Fisher wrote: > Instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0181de2 > As I said it almost always happens on the same instruction pointer. The Do a nm /kernel | sort | more and see which function above address is in. If you are a more adventurous type, you can also disassemble the function with gdb, and try to find the corresponding source line. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 07:59:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA12501 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA12483; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA01374; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:59:35 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:59:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199607271459.KAA01374@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: NEWS-READER From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: Gateway X.25-->TCP/IP Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >26/07/96 Victor Fofin wrote: > > How do I from my FreeBSDbox gateway X.25--->TCP/IP ? >What for this need (hard,soft ...) ? If this impossible what for >/sys/netccitt code ? And please, forgive my poor english . > >Thanks, >Victor > We have an RFC 877 and RFC 1356 compliant TCP/IP over X.25 product for FreeBSD. We've just completed a new streamlined version with dynamic SVC sub-interfaces. Our board incorporates a hardware LAPB processor and can run X.25 at full T1/E1 speeds. Info at www.etinc.com Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 08:30:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA13891 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hon.hn ([206.48.105.210]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13870 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ser@localhost) by hon.hn (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA02963; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 09:27:40 GMT Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 09:27:40 +0000 () From: "Samuel E. Romero" To: NEWS-READER cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gateway X.25-->TCP/IP In-Reply-To: <9607261133.aa17964@savbank.zaporizhzhe.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, NEWS-READER wrote: > 26/07/96 Victor Fofin wrote: > > How do I from my FreeBSDbox gateway X.25--->TCP/IP ? > What for this need (hard,soft ...) ? If this impossible what for > /sys/netccitt code ? And please, forgive my poor english . > > Thanks, > Victor > > > I'm using an ET/5025 from Emerging Technologies and it work's fine. It can be used for X.25 or HDLC. I'm using FreeBSD 2.1.5 now, altough I was using 2.1 and there is no difference (visble) with the work of the card. If you want more info look in http://www.etinc.com. From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 09:15:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18074 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 09:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18063 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 09:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA11370; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:14:09 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199607271614.LAA11370@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: So will this run or not :-) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:14:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, rminnich@Sarnoff.COM In-Reply-To: <199607271031.MAA29771@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 27, 96 12:31:11 pm Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As Ron G. Minnich wrote: > > > I have a file which needs to have text at a fairly high place. So i do: > > Why? > > > p0 24% make > > cc -o zclient -T 100000 zclient.o ../lib/libzounds.a > > This is certainly wrong. The -T option is a `special purpose' one, > and i think only used to link the kernel by now. > > The exact mapping of the text and data segment is a matter of the > kernel (imgact_aout.c, i suppose), and nothing you can simply change > by relinking the binary to another address. > I was just looking at the a.out format, and there appears to be no explicit indication of where the a.out is mapped. If there was (perhaps like in ELF) we could accomodate it. So, it appears that the a.out format simply doesn't/can't tell us (except by magic number.) John From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 11:27:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24038 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24010; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa13859; 27 Jul 96 18:27 GMT Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa07885; 27 Jul 96 18:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsys.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA00764; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:43:31 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:43:31 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: VFS interface manpages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk More manpages on ftp://freefall.freebsd.org/pub/incoming/vopdoc-960727.tar.gz -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsys.demon.co.uk Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 11:28:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24108 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24102 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad14294; 27 Jul 96 18:28 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa14335; 27 Jul 96 19:22 +0100 Received: (from fcurrent@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA03065; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 16:35:00 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199607271635.QAA03065@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Adding a second scsi drive To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 16:35:00 +0000 () Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, ernie@spooky.eis.net.au In-Reply-To: <199607271129.NAA00538@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 27, 96 01:29:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Sysinstall still core dumps when I try and usr it to partition and and > > disklabel the second drive. > > Analyze it, and tell Jordan about the actual problem. Just to clarify things, Ernie mailed me privately about this, and I sent Jordan my analysis of the core dump, but I think he must have been in post-release mail overload :-( From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 27 11:28:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24164 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24155 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad14324; 27 Jul 96 18:28 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa14237; 27 Jul 96 19:21 +0100 Received: (from fcurrent@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA03041; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 16:30:56 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199607271630.QAA03041@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: SCO and Wordperfect 7 problems (socksys) To: soward@service1.uky.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 16:30:55 +0000 () Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607261914.PAA02955@neworder.cc.uky.edu> from "John Soward" at Jul 26, 96 03:14:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm not using WP, but another SCO application...here's what I have...this > wasn't very well documented...if you read the code for the ibcs2 stuff ;) Or alternatively you might read the FAQ, which explains how to set up /compat/ibcs2/dev... > % ls -ltr /compat/ibcs2/dev > total 0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 41, 0 3/96 11:32:5 spx > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root wheel 0 3/96 11:33:2 null > lrwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 9 3/96 11:33:2 socksys -> /dev/null > lrwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 7 3/96 11:33:2 nfsd -> socksys > lrwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 9 3/96 11:33:2 XOR -> /dev/null