From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 1 17:55:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12514 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from easy.stallion.com (easy.stallion.com [204.31.184.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12509 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from cluster.stallion.oz.au by easy.stallion.com id aa03800; 1 Dec 96 17:55 PST Subject: Re: FreeBSD as Terminal Server To: Bruce Evans Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:50:27 +1000 (est) From: Greg Ungerer Cc: gerg@stallion.oz.au, hardware@freebsd.org, alex@yahoo.com, bde@zeta.org.au, sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk, sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au In-Reply-To: <199611272236.JAA32072@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Nov 28, 96 09:36:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9612021150.aa17922@cluster.stallion.oz.au> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans writes: > >>You'd need to translate the istallion driver from the Linlish :-). > > > >Huh?? > >What do you mean? > >How mush more FreeBSDish can it be made? > > plainBSDish: use spltty() to disable tty interrupts. Never use > disable_interrupt(), which doesn't exist exist in plainBSD. > > FreeBSDish: use only spltty() as in plainBSD, unless the driver uses > a fast interrupt handler. Sure, but that one thing hardly makes the driver "Linlish". [...stuff about fast interrupts snipped...] > >>I did a quick check for drivers in isa/*.c that abuse disable_intr() > >>and found these: > >> > >>ctx.c: disables interrupts and calls uiomove(). Apart from disabling > >[driver list sniped] > > > >Did you let of the maintainers of these drivers know so they could > >"fix" up the problem? > > These drivers are mostly apparently unmaintained :=]. Well, the Stallion drivers are??? > >In any case this is very easy to "fix" for the Stallion drivers. If you > >look at a lot of the cases of the disabled interrupts they are turned off > >for no more than a couple of dozen instructions... > > Yes, that is safe. To be sure that they are not turned off for longer, > don't call any function outside the driver, since the implementation > of foreign functions is unknown and may change. Foreign functions > may execute thousands of instructions or reenable interrupts. Sure. I have modified the Stallion drivers to only use spltty, and am bench testing them now... Trivial change, code should be available in a few days. Regards Greg --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Ungerer EMAIL: gerg@stallion.com Stallion Technologies Pty Ltd PHONE: +61 7 3270 4271 33 Woodstock Rd, Toowong, QLD 4066, Australia FAX: +61 7 3270 4245 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 1 20:49:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00249 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 20:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00243 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 20:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id PAA10899; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:32:48 +1100 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:32:48 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199612020432.PAA10899@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, gerg@stallion.oz.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD as Terminal Server Cc: alex@yahoo.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org, sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk, sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >>You'd need to translate the istallion driver from the Linlish :-). >> ... >Sure, but that one thing hardly makes the driver "Linlish". See they smiley. >> These drivers are mostly apparently unmaintained :=]. > >Well, the Stallion drivers are??? Are they? :-) I'd like all drivers to be actively maintained. This seems to require many commits per year even for "finished" drivers. You could read the commit logs for all changes to other tty drivers to make sure you're not falling behind. >I have modified the Stallion drivers to only use spltty, and am bench >testing them now... Trivial change, code should be available in a few >days. Good. Other things to do: unfinished details: - support devfs. - support the drivers in MAKEDEV. - convert README.stl into a man page. recent changes to keep up with: - support new ioctl TIOCDCDTIMESTAMP. Better support old ioctl TIOCTIMESTAMP too. - make sure that the drivers pass all NIST PCTS (POSIX) tests. The tests have a good coverage of fancy termios stuff that no one uses :-). future changes to keep up with: - fix some ioctls that don't wait for the (controlling) tty to be in the foreground before changing it. The wait is done in ttioctl(), but that is too late - it is after ttsetcompat(), locking and l_ioctl(). This is most serious for ttsetcompat(). Locking inhibits unwanted changes and background processes are unlikely when the line discipline in nonstandard. ttioctl() neglects to wait for many ioctls too. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 1 21:38:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03073 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 21:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from easy.stallion.com (easy.stallion.com [204.31.184.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03064 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 21:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from cluster.stallion.oz.au by easy.stallion.com id aa06833; 1 Dec 96 21:37 PST Subject: Re: FreeBSD as Terminal Server To: Bruce Evans Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:32:33 +1000 (est) From: Greg Ungerer Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, gerg@stallion.oz.au, alex@yahoo.com, hardware@freebsd.org, sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk, sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au In-Reply-To: <199612020432.PAA10899@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Dec 2, 96 03:32:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9612021532.aa19140@cluster.stallion.oz.au> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans writes: > >> >>You'd need to translate the istallion driver from the Linlish :-). > >> ... > >Sure, but that one thing hardly makes the driver "Linlish". > > See they smiley. Yeah, I see it. I just figure most people don't know what you are on about. I wanted to make sure no one has any misconceptions about the state of the Stallion drivers. > >> These drivers are mostly apparently unmaintained :=]. > > > >Well, the Stallion drivers are??? > > Are they? :-) Sure. People mail me bug reports, or ask for help and I help them. How much more supported do you want??? Again, just to make it clear for everyone! > >I have modified the Stallion drivers to only use spltty, and am bench > >testing them now... Trivial change, code should be available in a few > >days. > > Good. Other things to do: > [...details snipped...] Sure, I have better things to do than check every day if somebody has changed the tty sub-system. Every now and again I have a poke around and see what has changed. Every once in a while I will issue a driver update that rolls new stuff in... Seems like a reasonable approach to me... If someone needs an urgent update I can do that. Rarely happens though. Regards Greg --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Ungerer EMAIL: gerg@stallion.com Stallion Technologies Pty Ltd PHONE: +61 7 3270 4271 33 Woodstock Rd, Toowong, QLD 4066, Australia FAX: +61 7 3270 4245 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 2 13:09:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13882 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from buzz.pixar.com (buzz.pixar.com [138.72.70.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13876 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from buzz by buzz.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0vUfbq-008u9dC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 13:09 PST Message-ID: <32A3456E.41C6@pixar.com> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 13:09:02 -0800 From: James W Williams Organization: Pixar Animation Studios X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org CC: williams Subject: FreeBSD chokes on 386 MB with WB cache. X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a small computer with a 386DX-40 noname motherboard, with Cyrix cpu, that I attempted to install FreeBSD 2.1.6 on recently. The manual claims it to have write back cache (128K), but the ctcm cache checking program doesn't run properly on it, so I've not confirmed this. Anyway, when I tried to run the FreeBSD install, it always eventually panicked. Before the panic, I'd get trashed displays when viewing the various screens of the installation program. I tried turning off the cache and it worked much better, but did eventually fail. This is not my main FreeBSD box, I was doing this mostly for fun, so it isn't critical to get it working. I'm mostly curious if you guys have found broken cache implementations out there that produce results similar to this. I'm also curious why I don't seem to have trouble with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on this machine. A broken cache should hurt Windows too, shouldn't it? For fun, I tried installing plan 9, which failed. I also tried FreeBSD 2.1.6 on a _really_ cheap motherboard I got at Weirdstuff Warehouse that uses a UMC clone of the 486SX-33 (which I recently discovered violates Intel patents and can't be sold in the US...) This is the most bizarre intel clone chip I've ever seen. Most of my DOS based testing programs can't cope with it and claim it's running at 48MHz, 88Mhz, 300Mhz, or whatever. But FreeBSD seemed to like it just fine! I didn't do a full install, just fiddled with the boot floppy, but at least it didn't crash like the 386 did! I'm not on this list, so please direct any responses to the address below. Thanks! Jim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Williams Pixar Animation Studios williams@pixar.com Richmond, CA From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 2 14:26:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18181 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaori.communique.net (kaori.Communique.Net [204.27.65.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18175; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by kaori.communique.net with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BBE06D.424E85C0@kaori.communique.net>; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:24:15 -0600 Message-ID: From: Raul Zighelboim To: "'hardware@freefall.freebsd.org'" Cc: "'questions@freefall.freebsd.org'" Subject: options AHC_TAGENABLE Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:24:12 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello there! I am told that enabling this may improve performance on my news server, but I am also told that this options may call for disaster!. So, the wuestion: How safe is it to enable this on an adaptec 2940W with a seagate elite hard disk. If bad, will it just crash the machine (so I'll reboot with a new kernel) or corrupt the data on the drive (so I'll have to hang myself). Thanks. ---------------------------------------------- Raul Zighelboim mailto:mango@communique.net Communique Inc. http://communique.net From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 3 07:48:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA23260 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from idiom.com (root@idiom.com [140.174.82.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23255; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from zapata.omnix.fr.org (codix4.codix.fr [194.98.13.104]) by idiom.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id HAA04478; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:48:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:50:37 +0100 (MET) From: "didier@omnix.fr.org" To: hackers@freebsd.org cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Seagate ST34371W drives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk do you have any experience with these drives ? do you know if they are ok with FreeBSD 2.1.5R thanks for your help -- Didier Derny didier@omnix.fr.org From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 4 10:44:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15318 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from fun.inria.fr (fun.inria.fr [138.96.24.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15312 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by fun.inria.fr (8.8.3/8.6.12) id TAA22203; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:44:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199612041844.TAA22203@fun.inria.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Advise on Hardware configuration X-url: http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/avega.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 19:44:12 +0100 From: Andres Vega Garcia Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, here at INRIA some people is working on a general configuration to be used in the new PCs we are going to acquire in the near future, it seems they consider Windows95/NT - Linux to make the choice, but my interest is in FreeBSD, do you have any comments on the hardware listed below? I'm specially interested in the MB performance/fiability, the Ethernet card's troughput and the sound capabilities for audioconferencing (I have plans to port FPhone http://www.inria.fr/rod eo/fphone/ to FreeBSD and WindowsNT). Of course, any reports on known problems under FreeBSD for this harware are most appreciated. - -Pentium Intel 200 Pro with 256 or 512 Kb of secondary cache (L2). - -Motherboard : SUPER P6DNF ( Single processor ). - -RAM : 2X32Mo <= 60ns . - -Graphic card : Diamond 968 Stealth 64 Video 4 Mb VRAM. - -Disk controller : Adaptec AHA-2940 Ultra Wide. - -Hard disk 2Go : Quantum XP32150 W . - -Ethernet : ProSum Proexpert-PCI 10Base-T (with option to change to 10-100 B-T) - -Sound card : Sound Blaster 16 PNP. - -CDROM : Pionner DRA-10X ATAPI . - -Kboard : Keytronic Querty 103 keys - M/N : E06101D-C - -Souris : Logitech Pilot Serie 3 Buttons. - -Monitor : NOKIA 21" 445XI or DEC 21" . Thank you very much in advance. -Andres From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 4 16:55:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.3/8.7.3) id QAA26375 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26368 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id LAA18609; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 11:25:16 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199612050055.LAA18609@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Advise on Hardware configuration In-Reply-To: <199612041844.TAA22203@fun.inria.fr> from Andres Vega Garcia at "Dec 4, 96 07:44:12 pm" To: Andres.Vega_Garcia@sophia.inria.fr (Andres Vega Garcia) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 11:25:15 +1030 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andres Vega Garcia stands accused of saying: > the choice, but my interest is in FreeBSD, do you have any comments > on the hardware listed below? Always 8) > - -Ethernet : ProSum Proexpert-PCI 10Base-T (with option to change to > 10-100 B-T) You'll need to find out what sort of card this really is; with any luck it's based on a Digital DC21x4x chip, in which case it'll be a winner. If they say it's "NE2000" compatible, throw it away. > - -Sound card : Sound Blaster 16 PNP. Ick. PnP may be trouble, but I can't be too sure about that. > - -CDROM : Pionner DRA-10X ATAPI . Why an ATAPI CDrom in a SCSI system? Get a SCSI CDrom if at all possible, even if you end up with an 8x instead of a 10x, the performance improvement provided by the SCSI interface is worth it. > -Andres -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 4 17:37:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.3/8.7.3) id RAA29091 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from xenon.chromatic.com (xenon.chromatic.com [199.5.224.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA29062; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ohio.chromatic.com (ohio.chromatic.com [199.5.224.98]) by xenon.chromatic.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02823; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hua@localhost) by ohio.chromatic.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id RAA01111; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:36:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:36:13 -0800 (PST) From: Ernest Hua Message-Id: <199612050136.RAA01111@ohio.chromatic.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org, hardware@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Ricochet Network + FreeBSD? Cc: hua@ohio.chromatic.com Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone ever tried to use Metricom's Ricochet modems with FreeBSD? Any info appreciated. Thanks! Ern From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 4 22:34:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.3/8.7.3) id WAA18038 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18033 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA20907 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:04:28 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199612050634.RAA20907@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: More 'de' Ethernet cards To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:04:27 +1030 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, our local supplier suddenly stopped listing the KTX ethernet cards that we've been using, right before I needed one "tomorrow". (They aren't expecting more stock 'till the new year. Unbelievable.) After some frantic chasing, I'm happy to say that we located an alternative supplier, cheaper, and with a distributor open later than 5pm 8) The new "this card works" entry is the Alloy 9400P3; it's a PCI card featuring the Digital DC21040-AA part (wow, old!) and it's a full 3-way combo (TP/BNC/AUI). Even more scary, at one-off it's AUD$69.00 ex-tax. (For Australian readers, look up Qsoft in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne. We ordered after 5:30 local time and the cards were on my desk when I got in the next morning. Alloy also have a 1-800 number here that were able to confirm before I ordered that the card was indeed Tulip-based.) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 5 04:01:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA03681 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 04:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA03655; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 04:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id DAA01830 ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA25265; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:09:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:08:59 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: jmg@nike Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Ernest Hua cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org, hardware@freefall.freebsd.org, hua@ohio.chromatic.com Subject: Re: Ricochet Network + FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199612050136.RAA01111@ohio.chromatic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Ernest Hua wrote: > Has anyone ever tried to use Metricom's Ricochet modems with FreeBSD? it works great... which type ppp do you want to use? user or kernel? only thing is that on my Toshiba notebook I get sio overflows once in a while under kernel, but not under user mode... > Any info appreciated. well... I have configurations for both... interested? ttyl.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 7 09:57:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA02327 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA02322 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id JAA29529; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08060; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:57:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612071757.JAA08060@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, smp@csn.net, FreeBSD-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPU heatsinks In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 15 Nov 96 13:43:43 -0800. <199611152143.NAA26499@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 09:57:23 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >On the Pentium and Pentium PRO all the good stuff is on the top, on >> >later Pentiums they have duplicated it on the bottom as well, just for >> >your and my convienence :-) >> "On the ... Pentium PRO all the good stuff is on the top" >> This is an incorrect generalization. On MY Pentium Pro, all the "good >> stuff" is on the bottom. The top only says "Intel Pentium Pro". >Okay, what does it say on the bottom then? I suspect you have a very >early chip, probably not even laser etched, which means you could also >have false markings. For What It's Worth... I took my case off yesterday to put a new VooDoo 3Dfx video card in my machine. You ought to see Descent II and Monster Truck Madness on that thing! Incredible! Anyway, here's what's on my chip, if you still care. On the top, it just says Intel Pentium Pro (or something like that -- it's under heat-sink grease, and I didn't feel like cleaning it off, but that's pretty close). On the bottom, it had these markings: E6104154AA A6071346AA MALAY ES KB80521EX200 SY032 256K I have the "fast string" function turned on in my BIOS, and have no problems (I thought I remembered hearing that there were problems with this in earlier chips). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... 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