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Subject: Any experience with the Archive 4586 and 4584 DDS changers?
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I'm currently in Cupertino, and yesterday I visited the Disk Drive
Depot at 500 Lawrence in Sunnyvale (where I met a salesman who seemed
to know what he was selling :-). They have some Archive DDS tape
changers there. Briefly:
Archive 4584 NPR, DDS-1 with compression, 4 tapes, 16 GB total, $449
Archive 4586 NP, DDS-2 with compression, 4 tapes, 32 GB total, $695
Both of these units were discontinued before the Conner/Seagate
takeover, and were built in 1995, but they're unused. They take up a
full-height 5 1/4" slot. A 12 tape cartridge is also available for
$99.
My questions:
Has anybody used these devices?
War stories?
Does anybody know how to address these tapes? I'm would expect that
they are addressed by LUNs, but that doesn't explain how the 12 tape
cartridge works.
The salesman offered me a 15 day return, but that doesn't help me
much, since I need to take the thing back to Germany to test it. I
suppose if somebody round here were interested, and could let me try
it out in his machine, that could be an interesting solution for both
of us.
Greg
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From: "Alex.Boisvert" <boia01@pollux.GEL.USherb.CA>
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> In fact, after detecting the ppa0 device, it locks up
> (but only if the drive is in fact on--if it's powered off or disconnected,
> I get a "probe failed" message and the boot continues).
>
I am using the same driver with an Epson ZIP drive (same drive as Iomega
but manufactured by Epson). I had to remove some of the detecting code
because it was not seeing the drive.
I also patched the driver to work with 2.2-ALPHA.
Works like a charm.
Alex.
PS: If you need my source, just ask.
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Subject: Re: Zip drive
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Alex.Boisvert stands accused of saying:
> I am using the same driver with an Epson ZIP drive (same drive as Iomega
> but manufactured by Epson). I had to remove some of the detecting code
> because it was not seeing the drive.
>
> I also patched the driver to work with 2.2-ALPHA.
>
> Works like a charm.
> Alex.
>
> PS: If you need my source, just ask.
If we can reach some consensus on what works and what doesn't for this
driver, I'll get it committed to -current so that it gets wider
distribution and testing. Alex, I'd obviously like your code - and
anyone else that's using it, please send me your diffs from the
original.
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From: "C. Stephen Gunn" <csg@seraph.wspout.com>
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Subject: QuickTech P55TU Motherboard Problems
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Howdy !
Are there any known problems with the IWill/QuickTech P55TU motherboard
and FreeBSD 2.1.6-RELEASE. I seem to be crashing a good bit, especially if
I put a significant load on the machine. Here's the config, in case
you're interested.
- Quicktech P55TU Motherboard using Regular SCSI-2
- Cyrix 686 P133+
- 3 IBM SCSI-2 Drives, two striped using ccd
- 64Mb of 60NS EDO Ram
- SMC EtherPower 10/100 (Tulip Based)
I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache
timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more
infrequent, but they still happen).
Any help or experience is greatly appreciated.
- Steve
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To: "C. Stephen Gunn" <csg@seraph.wspout.com>, hardware@freefall.freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: QuickTech P55TU Motherboard Problems
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> From: "C. Stephen Gunn" <csg@seraph.wspout.com>
> Are there any known problems with the IWill/QuickTech P55TU motherboard
> and FreeBSD 2.1.6-RELEASE. I seem to be crashing a good bit, especially if
> I put a significant load on the machine. Here's the config, in case
> you're interested.
>
> - Quicktech P55TU Motherboard using Regular SCSI-2
> - Cyrix 686 P133+
> - 3 IBM SCSI-2 Drives, two striped using ccd
> - 64Mb of 60NS EDO Ram
> - SMC EtherPower 10/100 (Tulip Based)
>
> I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache
> timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more
> infrequent, but they still happen).
>
>
You might want to suspect your motherboard. If this is a well known
brand that I just don't know about, then maybe it's fine, but
off-brand motherboards can cause all kinds of flakey timing problems
that are very hard to nail down, even if they use the same chipset as
a better designed board. If you look on an Asus or other reputable
manufacturer, you will see "wavy traces" on some lines to correct for
small timing errors. The quality of the BIOS is generally better as
well. With a Cyrix processor in particular, the quality of the
motherboard is a critical issue since the Cyrix seems to be more
sensitive to board timings.
I am not saying your board is the culprit - but if they are a small
manufacturer the possibility of board problems should not be
discounted.
Good luck!
======================================
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Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com
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C. Stephen Gunn stands accused of saying:
>
> I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache
> timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more
> infrequent, but they still happen).
This does indeed sound like memory problems. It's of course possible
that it's something else, but memory is definitely where I'd start.
> - Steve
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} > I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache
} > timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more
} > infrequent, but they still happen).
}
} This does indeed sound like memory problems. It's of course possible
} that it's something else, but memory is definitely where I'd start.
}
One of the features of non-parity RAM, not knowing if it's at fault
or not ...
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Richard Foulk stands accused of saying:
> } > I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache
> } > timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more
> } > infrequent, but they still happen).
> }
> } This does indeed sound like memory problems. It's of course possible
> } that it's something else, but memory is definitely where I'd start.
> }
>
> One of the features of non-parity RAM, not knowing if it's at fault
> or not ...
Would that it were that simple. But it's not.
All that parity will tell you is that something in the memory subsystem
is busted, but that's already obvious from the symptoms.
Parity RAM is not a cure for the common cold.
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Subject: Seagate Barracuda 9 (11/9) gb specs?
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Hello,
I wonder if someone can help me with the following. I have Seagate UW SCSI
Barracuda 9 9gb (11 unformatted) drive to rape. Since it's pretty new one,
I've been checking it with 2.1.5/2.1.6/2.2-alpha/3.0-current, it works.
(Ehm, now installing 2.1.0r, just to test ;-))
The only problem is that when using default geometry, I lack some
400/500mb, i.e. only 8600+mb seen, see dmesg data at the end.
The question finally is: can any of you name the geometry of it and
is it ok that this disk is seen it's 9gb unformatted, and 8,6+ formatted?
Thanks for any hints, besides www.seagate.com, - they have nothing there.
-mishania
ahc0 <Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI host adapter> rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:12
ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs
ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
(ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST19171W 0018" type 0 fixed SCSI 2
sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors)
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In message <199612170944.MAA03416@megillah.demos.su>, "Mikhail A. Sokolov" writ
es:
>Hello,
>
>I wonder if someone can help me with the following. I have Seagate UW SCSI
>Barracuda 9 9gb (11 unformatted) drive to rape.
>
>The question finally is: can any of you name the geometry of it and
>is it ok that this disk is seen it's 9gb unformatted, and 8,6+ formatted?
Remember that a Megabyte according to diskmanufacturers are 1000000 bytes,
so 17783112*512/1000000 = 9104 MB.
A modern SCSI disk doesn't have a "geometry", it's best to think of it
as a linear array of sectors.
Your SCSI controller has to come up with a geometry anyway because MSDOS
is not a "modern OS". In this case I would guess that this pseudo
geometry will be something like 1106 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors.
Unless this is your boot disk, there is no problem with this. If you
intend to boot from it you have to read the docs carefully.
Remember to make a backup copy, this will only take 6174 floppies, which
mean that you should be able to do it in a couple of weeks or so :-)
>ahc0 <Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI host adapter> rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:12
>ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs
>ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
>(ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST19171W 0018" type 0 fixed SCSI 2
>sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors)
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From: se@FreeBSD.ORG (Stefan Esser)
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On Dec 17, mishania@demos.su (Mikhail A. Sokolov) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I wonder if someone can help me with the following. I have Seagate UW SCSI
> Barracuda 9 9gb (11 unformatted) drive to rape. Since it's pretty new one,
> I've been checking it with 2.1.5/2.1.6/2.2-alpha/3.0-current, it works.
> (Ehm, now installing 2.1.0r, just to test ;-))
> The only problem is that when using default geometry, I lack some
> 400/500mb, i.e. only 8600+mb seen, see dmesg data at the end.
Hmmm, 8683*1024*1024 = 9.105 * 10^9 ...
Seagate gives the drive capacity in Million bytes, as just
about everybody in the disk drive business does, but FreeBSD
prints the capacity in MByte (2^20) units.
> The question finally is: can any of you name the geometry of it and
> is it ok that this disk is seen it's 9gb unformatted, and 8,6+ formatted?
The drive really has some 11GB unformatted capacity, and 9GB
formatted, using decimal units. It is typical to loose some
20% for intersector gaps, which may contain servo information,
but are required to allow for variations in rotational speed,
and for activating and deactivating the write head, too.
It is common to use decimal MB for capacities, but for (some)
data rates, too. For example, a 10MB/s FAST SCSI bus is limited
to 9.5*1024*1024 bytes, since it actually operates at 10MHz.
(The same is true of EIDE speed specifications, BTW :)
> ahc0 <Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI host adapter> rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:12
> ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs
> ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
> (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST19171W 0018" type 0 fixed SCSI 2
> sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors)
Nice drive! Would love to have one :)
Regards, STefan
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On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Mikhail A. Sokolov wrote:
> I wonder if someone can help me with the following. I have Seagate UW SCSI
> Barracuda 9 9gb (11 unformatted) drive to rape. Since it's pretty new one,
> I've been checking it with 2.1.5/2.1.6/2.2-alpha/3.0-current, it works.
> (Ehm, now installing 2.1.0r, just to test ;-))
> The only problem is that when using default geometry, I lack some
> 400/500mb, i.e. only 8600+mb seen, see dmesg data at the end.
>
> The question finally is: can any of you name the geometry of it and
> is it ok that this disk is seen it's 9gb unformatted, and 8,6+ formatted?
It's all seen, you've just run into the drive manufacturer's marketing
hype. While the rest of the industry considers 1,048,576 bytes a megabyte
the drive industry calls 1,000,000 bytes a megabyte. Their gigabytes are
73741824 bytes less than everyone else's. :(
> sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors)
17783112 * 512 = 9104953344
A 9.1 gig by their standards.
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Just got 2.1.5 from CDROM.COM.
I have a Panasonic CD (yes the correct drive CR-562) on a
Soundblaster 16 card. I have tried the -c option and changed to 220
and 210 without success. The Book also states to change the i/o to
-1. I can't figure out how to do that.
Any other Ideas other than a DOS Install (I only have 20 MB free)
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Subject: HELP: dump to EXB-8700 tape drive hangs freebsd
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I posted this to freebsd-questions last Saturday but no one answered.
I guess I'll try hardware and scsi. Please excuse me if this is not
appropriate.
I was using dump to backup to a Exabyte 8700 (actually a 8505) 8mm
tape drive hanging off a Adaptec 1510 when the system hung. I could
not get any response from the console. I could ping the box but could
not login from telnet. The command I used was:
dump 0ubBf 128 14000000 /dev/nrst0 /mnt/u0 >>& log
/mnt/u0 is a 1.5G partition. Running the same command earlier on
smaller filesystems had no problem.
info on tape host:
Script started on Sat Dec 14 21:22:43 1996
dmes[501]ping@red:~> dmesg
FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP #0: Fri Oct 4 19:07:19 PDT 1996
ping@red.stepnet.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RED
Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock...
i8254 clock: 1193901 Hz
CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5
Features=0x3<FPU,VME>
real memory = 25165824 (24576K bytes)
avail memory = 22560768 (22032K bytes)
ahc0: <Adaptec 284X SCSI host adapter> at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on isa
ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs
ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
(ahc0:0:0): "HP C3325A 5020" type 0 fixed SCSI 2
sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2069MB (4238836 512 byte sectors)
(ahc0:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3601TA 0725" type 5 removable SCSI 2
cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM
cd0(ahc0:6:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present
can't get the size
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 9 on isa
ed0: address 00:20:18:30:4d:08, type NE2000 (16 bit)
ed1 at 0x300-0x31f irq 10 on isa
ed1: address 00:00:e8:c2:a7:fd, type NE2000 (16 bit)
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
lp0: TCP/IP capable interface
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: NEC 72065B
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in
ft0: Archive tape
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): <Maxtor 7345 AT>
wd0: 329MB (675450 sectors), 790 cyls, 15 heads, 57 S/T, 512 B/S
aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 12 on isa
aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
(aic0:2:0): "EXABYTE EXB-8505 0040" type 1 removable SCSI 2
st0(aic0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
[502]ping@red:~> mt -t /dev/nrst0 status
Present Mode: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable
---------available modes---------
Mode 0: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable
Mode 1: Density = X3.136-1986 Blocksize = 512 bytes
Mode 2: Density = X3.39-1986 Blocksize variable
Mode 3: Density = X3.54-1986 Blocksize variable
[503]ping@red:~> ls -l /dev/nrst0
crw-rw---- 2 root operator 14, 1 Dec 14 21:02 /dev/nrst0
[504]ping@red:~> exit
exit
Script done on Sat Dec 14 21:23:11 1996
Thanks in advance for anyone's help!
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Hi,
I'm trying to get my TekrAm DC-390F (ncr53c875) work under FreeBSD. But
I always get the following message while booting
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0 <SiS 85c496> rev 1 on pci0:5
de0 <Digital 21041 Ethernet> rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:10
de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1
de0: address 00:80:c8:34:93:bd
vga0 <VGA-compatible display device> rev 6 int a irq 9 on pci0:11
ncr0 <ncr 53c875 wide scsi> rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:12
CACHE TEST FAILED: reg dstat-sstat2 readback ffffffff.
CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED.
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
...
and the system cannot detect any scsi device.
Please tell me how to fix this problem.
Thanks.
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Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...)
To: jonas@Mcs.Net (Lars Jonas Olsson)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:58 -0800 (PST)
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> Note that there are two kinds of EDO parity RAM. One works both in
> parity and ECC mode and the other only in ECC mode. I first bought EDO
> parity RAM from Micron that only worked in ECC mode (Have to write all
> 4 parity bits at once). I then found EDO parity RAM from Samsung that
> works in regular parity mode. The type I buy is 32MB 60 ns, 72 pin,
> gold leads, p/n KMM5368105BKG-6 they are sort of expensive though at
> $280.
>
> Jonas
>
What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity
and ECC mode stuff? Please enlighten me.
Thanks,
ping
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Subject: Re: TekrAm DC-390F scsi card
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From: "Craig Shaver" <craig@ProGroup.COM>
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>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to get my TekrAm DC-390F (ncr53c875) work under FreeBSD. But
> I always get the following message while booting
I am running one of these on 2.1.5R. I used the floppies and patches from
the Tekram ftp site to install the generic kernel and then rebuild it after
I did the patches. I did get a small patch from Stefan, who works on the
ncr.c code. It works pretty good so far. I am using an ASUS t2 mother
board.
>
del ...
> ncr0 <ncr 53c875 wide scsi> rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:12
del ....
>
> and the system cannot detect any scsi device.
> Please tell me how to fix this problem.
It looks like it found the Tekram. Have you tried to use it with plain
old dos or windog? I did that just to make sure the drives I had were
good and that the board sees them. Did you get a message about the drives
during bios boot up? The Tekram board should spit out something. Mine
does.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
We may want to move this over to scsi@freebsd.org on the next turnaround....
I think Stefan lives over there, and he is very savvy about these things.
--
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According to Ping Mai:
> I was using dump to backup to a Exabyte 8700 (actually a 8505) 8mm
> tape drive hanging off a Adaptec 1510 when the system hung. I could
Why don't you try to hook it on the Adaptec 284X instead ? A 1510 doesn't
do DMA nor busmaster...
> ahc0: <Adaptec 284X SCSI host adapter> at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on isa
> ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs
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>
> > Note that there are two kinds of EDO parity RAM. One works both in
> > parity and ECC mode and the other only in ECC mode. I first bought EDO
> > parity RAM from Micron that only worked in ECC mode (Have to write all
> > 4 parity bits at once). I then found EDO parity RAM from Samsung that
> > works in regular parity mode. The type I buy is 32MB 60 ns, 72 pin,
> > gold leads, p/n KMM5368105BKG-6 they are sort of expensive though at
> > $280.
> >
> > Jonas
> >
>
> What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity
> and ECC mode stuff? Please enlighten me.
>
> Thanks,
> ping
>
>
>
Running in ECC mode decreases performance by 10-15% (according to
memory of posts here). I bought Samsung EDO parity memory from Bell
Industries (310) 921-1580
Jonas
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From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
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Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...)
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According to Ping Mai:
> What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity
15% loss of performance if I remember well. See the archives of the list.
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Hello Everyone, I am putting together a internet server for my
personal use, and was wondering if anyone had any comments on the
hardware (incompatibilitys etc). I will be using FreeBSD 2.1.6 or
later.
Generic Case (250W - 10 Bay) - $89
AHA-2940 Adaptec UltraWide - $ 225 (32bit PCI)
Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide)
Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide)
NMB Keyboard - $ 52
3 button Logitech - $ 25
Generic Non-parity EDO (16mb)- $ 63.50
GigaByte 6x86-150 (Cyrix) - $ 280 (With Chip & 512k cache)
Magnavox mono 14" -$ 116 (640x480)
Generic Video (cirrus logic) -$ 30
Allied Telesis Hub (4 port) -$ 70
3C 509B-TPO Etherlink III -$ 129.95 (10BT PCI)
3C 509B-TPO Etherlink III -$ 129.95 (10BT PCI)
HP Colorado t4000s 8.0g INT -$ 295 (SCSI2)
What do you think? any substitutions or things i missed?
BTW, I will be hooking to the internet with frame relay (only 128k
for now) and all the hardware is included with the setup costs.
-Jesse
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capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
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Subject: Re: HELP: dump to EXB-8700 tape drive hangs freebsd
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:48:21 +0100 (MET)
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As Ollivier Robert wrote:
> Why don't you try to hook it on the Adaptec 284X instead ? A 1510 doesn't
> do DMA nor busmaster...
...and the aic driver is a known rogue.
--
cheers, J"org
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Jesse stands accused of saying:
> Hello Everyone, I am putting together a internet server for my
> personal use, and was wondering if anyone had any comments on the
> hardware (incompatibilitys etc). I will be using FreeBSD 2.1.6 or
> later.
>
> Generic Case (250W - 10 Bay) - $89
> AHA-2940 Adaptec UltraWide - $ 225 (32bit PCI)
> Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide)
> Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide)
> NMB Keyboard - $ 52
> 3 button Logitech - $ 25
> Generic Non-parity EDO (16mb)- $ 63.50
Nowhere near enough memory. Try 4x this.
> GigaByte 6x86-150 (Cyrix) - $ 280 (With Chip & 512k cache)
> Magnavox mono 14" -$ 116 (640x480)
> Generic Video (cirrus logic) -$ 30
You're not planning on running X on this unit? That's fair enough
then.
> -Jesse
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From: se@FreeBSD.ORG (Stefan Esser)
To: ruey@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user)
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Subject: Re: TekrAm DC-390F scsi card
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On Dec 18, ruey@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to get my TekrAm DC-390F (ncr53c875) work under FreeBSD. But
> I always get the following message while booting
>
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
> chip0 <SiS 85c496> rev 1 on pci0:5
> de0 <Digital 21041 Ethernet> rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:10
> de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1
> de0: address 00:80:c8:34:93:bd
> vga0 <VGA-compatible display device> rev 6 int a irq 9 on pci0:11
> ncr0 <ncr 53c875 wide scsi> rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:12
> CACHE TEST FAILED: reg dstat-sstat2 readback ffffffff.
> CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED.
> Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
> sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
> ...
>
> and the system cannot detect any scsi device.
> Please tell me how to fix this problem.
Could you please send VERBOSE boot messages
(ie. enter "-v"- at the "Boot: " prompt).
The NCR driver does some basic tests before it
starts to actually initialize the controller.
And the first one already failed on your system.
The test writes "0xffffffff" into some NCR
register, which are guaranteed to return 0 in
some of their bits. If the value read back does
not contain those 0 bits, then the CPU read it
from its cache, not from the NCR chip (which
must be memory mapped into a non-cacheable
memory region).
Seems that your CPU read back the 0xffff with
no single bit cleared. This prevents operation
of the NCR (and any other memory mapped PCI
card) on your motherboard.
Please send the VERBOSE boot message log. You
will find lines like the following in it:
ncr1 <ncr 53c875 wide scsi> rev 1 int a irq 12 on pci0:4
mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000e400 size=0100.
mapreg[14] type=0 addr=fbfde000 size=0100.
mapreg[18] type=0 addr=fbfdd000 size=1000.
reg20: virtual=0xf54f8000 physical=0xfbfde000 size=0x100
On my system the Tekram is mapped to address
0xfbfde000 (mapreg[14]).
I've once before seen a system, whose PCI BIOS
mapped some PCI chip into memory space below 1MB.
It is often possible to remap any PCI device to
some other unused memory address.
You may try to build a kernel with NCR_IOMAPPED
defined. This will make the driver use port I/O
instead of memory accesses.
Regards, STefan
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From: jeays@statcan.ca (Mike Jeays)
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Subject: CD ROM problems again
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Subject: Re: IDE CDROM failure report.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Organization: Statistics Canada
Summary:
Keywords:
To add to my recent message about not being able to
detect a Panasonic CR-583 (8x) CD-ROM, I have since
found out the following:
With Release 2.1.5 (and no doubt 2.1.6, as I was told there
were no changes in the relevant code), the boot code will
only identify this device if it is the *slave* on either of
the two controllers.
I then did a full install with the following configuration:
Wdc0 Master : Windows 95 disk
Wdc0 Slave : Panasonic CR-583
Wdc1 Master : FreeBSD disk
Seemed to work OK - until I tried to boot the new system.
It detected all the devices correctly (but with quite long
pauses for the second controller), and then failed with
Changing root device to wd1a
Panic : cannot mount root.
I then exchanged the positions of the FreeBSD disk and
the CD-ROM, and it booted successfully.
Can I get around this in any way? I can only run my
system with the disks in the second order, and then the
CD is not detected at boot time.
Finally, I downloaded the 2.2_ALPHA boot diskette, and this
identifies the CD-ROM when it is the master device on the
second controller - so there is hope the bug will be fixed
in release 2.2. Great!
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Subject: Re: Zip drive
To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:27:55 -0500 (EST)
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|
| Alex.Boisvert stands accused of saying:
| > I am using the same driver with an Epson ZIP drive (same drive as Iomega
| > but manufactured by Epson). I had to remove some of the detecting code
| > because it was not seeing the drive.
| >
| > I also patched the driver to work with 2.2-ALPHA.
| >
| > Works like a charm.
| > Alex.
| >
| > PS: If you need my source, just ask.
|
| If we can reach some consensus on what works and what doesn't for this
| driver, I'll get it committed to -current so that it gets wider
| distribution and testing. Alex, I'd obviously like your code - and
| anyone else that's using it, please send me your diffs from the
| original.
Alex: Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I have got the zip drive working here.
For anybody looking at the code, I used his #define values for timeouts
and his self-described "hack," but left the other code as it was originally,
to get a working 2.1.0 driver (yes, I'm living the past; one reason I want
a zip drive is to back up so I can update my O/S).
I will be happy to send diffs (either relative to the origianl ppa3.c or
to Alex's version), but I believe that the upshot of what I left and what
I kept is that I have Alex's fix to make it work with my hardware without
the changes for 2.2-ALPHA, but since 2.1.6 is the final, put-to-bed 2.1
(right?), I don't think the that the version I'm running is of widespread
interest, is it?
Anyway, I'm quite happy. Thanks for the help!
--
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From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" <babbleon@mercury.interpath.com>
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Subject: CD-ROM trouble reports?
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I have a PROSTAR 9400 laptop on which I've never been able to get the CD-ROM
to work properly. (See my home page fo some more details.)
I only occaisonally tune into the newsgroups and what-not, but I understand
that somebody is soliciting such info, and I've added lots of debug code
that shows inb and outb values, and such-like, and will be happy to do all
they want, including providing a copy of the MS-DOS driver, if somebody wants
to look at these.
(It's a Oak Technologies DOS driver, which makes me suspect IDE/ATAPI since
that's what their home page says that they do, but they wont' answer my
e-mail queries for details.)
Anyway, is there somebody I should communicate with about this?
Thanks.
--
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From: Mike Kerr <mkerr@kerris.com>
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Subject: Mitsumi CDROM not found in probe
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I've been able to install fbsd on my system with a Mitsumi 8x IDE CDROM,
which was a pleasant experience given my problems a few months ago with
the Creative Labs 4x. Anyways, after installing it, when I boot up, the
drive isn't found in the probe.
It's looking for it at INT10, 300h. It's currently connected as slave on
/wd0, and I can't seem to get the setting right for it. Has anybody had
this problem, or have a solution to it?
On a semi-related note, fbsd isn't finding /wd1 on probe. The PC boots
up and recognizes the controller fine (the motherboard has two IDE
controllers), and has no problem (other than an annoying delay at bootup)
recognizing the drive on it (a WD Caviar; there's a 1.2G Seagate on wd0
with the CDROM). It sounds like a hardware problem more than anything
else, but I was wondering if anybody else had any similar sort of experience.
Not sure the exact make of the MB, but I do know it's a triton chipset. PCI.
Mike.
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Subject: Re: Comments on this hardware?
In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 18 Dec 96 12:47:32 +1030.
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>Jesse stands accused of saying:
>> Generic Case (250W - 10 Bay) - $89
Buy the biggest case you can get, if you're building a server. Make
sure it has two (or more) fans. Also, you may need to buy a custom
SCSI cable with extra connectors on it if you go for more than four
drives (some come with only enough connectors for two drives).
>> AHA-2940 Adaptec UltraWide - $ 225 (32bit PCI)
>> Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide)
>> Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide)
Why not try the IBM 2GB SCSI drives? They're about $200 cheaper.
>> Generic Non-parity EDO (16mb)- $ 63.50
>Nowhere near enough memory. Try 4x this.
Definitely. Memory is dirt cheap. Why cripple your self? Go for
32MB if you're on a budget. 64MB if you're buying for longer term.
Of course, what you're _using_ the machine for will also come into
play. :-)
>> GigaByte 6x86-150 (Cyrix) - $ 280 (With Chip & 512k
>>cache)
Just make sure the chip's physical speed is a multiple of 33, and not
a multiple of 30, for maximum performance (i.e. 133, 166, etc., not
120, 150, 180, etc.).
>> Magnavox mono 14" -$ 116 (640x480)
>> Generic Video (cirrus logic) -$ 30
>You're not planning on running X on this unit? That's fair enough
>then.
I think that would be a could suggestion. If this is an X-less server
with a text console, get the cheapest VGA card and monitor (or even an
old used EGA or mono card and mono monitor).
If this is going to be a person's workstation running X, get an
accelerated video card. Something S3-based or an ATI Mach32/Mach64
card. And don't get anything less than a 15-inch, with very strong
tendancies towards 17-inch, unless you want to go blind early.
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} > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity
}
} 15% loss of performance if I remember well. See the archives of the list.
}
That seems doubtful. How about 15% on main memory accesses -- most
accesses are from cache.
This sounds like the EDO gain that turned out to be 1%.
Richard
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> } > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity
> }
> } 15% loss of performance if I remember well. See the archives of the list.
> }
>
> That seems doubtful. How about 15% on main memory accesses -- most
> accesses are from cache.
>From my testing on ASUS PCI/I-P55T2P4 Intel 430HX based boards it was
infact a 12% degrade in -MEMORY- intensive benchmarks, infact the same
benchmarks I used to find the 1% EDO speed up showed the 12% ECC slow
down. This would tend to indicate that the slow down in the main
memory system is significant when running in ECC mode, far more than
one would expect.
>
> This sounds like the EDO gain that turned out to be 1%.
Except that both where measured using the same set of tests, and thus
the 15% (12% was my result) is real system performance loss.
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} > } > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity
} > }
} > } 15% loss of performance if I remember well. See the archives of the list.
} > }
} >
} > That seems doubtful. How about 15% on main memory accesses -- most
} > accesses are from cache.
}
} >From my testing on ASUS PCI/I-P55T2P4 Intel 430HX based boards it was
} infact a 12% degrade in -MEMORY- intensive benchmarks, infact the same
} benchmarks I used to find the 1% EDO speed up showed the 12% ECC slow
} down. This would tend to indicate that the slow down in the main
} memory system is significant when running in ECC mode, far more than
} one would expect.
}
} >
} > This sounds like the EDO gain that turned out to be 1%.
}
} Except that both where measured using the same set of tests, and thus
} the 15% (12% was my result) is real system performance loss.
}
So what kind of impact does this have on `make world'?
It can't be *that* bad -- unless ECC disables the cache ...
I think your benchmark is hitting a sour-spot.
Richard
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Hi,
Just joined this list to find an answer amazingly *not* on
Peter daSilva's incredibly extensive FAQ :) First, here's
my system, then my question:
* Intel Pentium 100MHz on an Acer motherboard with Intel
chipset and AMI BIOS
* Micropolis 3243-AV SCSI 4.29GB (presumed to be supported)
* booting off an Adaptec 2940 (listed as supported)
* Oodles of space available on boot disk (>2 GB still free)
but I don't want to install FreeBSD here as the Micropolis
was *very* expensive since it was specifically designed for
*AV* not multitasking....I want to be able to do multimedia
on it and 2GB is just barely enough working/elbow room for that.
* 32MB of RAM (EDO)
* iOmega Jaz drive (these use the 1 GB cartridges, like their
smaller but older siblings, the ever-popular Zip 100 MB drives)
external, plugged into the Adaptec SCSI card. So long as I
turn on the iOmega drive *BEFORE* booting (you have to do this
or the drive basically doesn't exist to the system), my Jaz
looks just like another *internal* SCSI disk, gets a drive letter
and everything
Now the questions:
(1) Does FreeBSD support iOmega Jaz drives at all?
(2) Can I install/run FreeBSD off a Jaz disk the same
way (or similarly to) one runs it off a CD-ROM?
I *do* realize I need to use 35-60MB of my boot disk (my Micropolis
disk) to boot the system with FreeBSD not Win95 but I am wondering
if this hardware will even be decipherable / mountable by the OS?
I bought my Jaz for cross-platform compatibilty (I'm on a Pentium
and want to work with Mac's and Unix boxes) so I am suspecting
FreeBSD will handle it just like it would any SCSI hard disk, but
if it *won't* then I can't afford to buy/install it right now,
both for $$$$ and time investment...if it *will* this is a GREAT
way to work around all of those ISP's out there that won't allow
shell access but want you to debug your Perl scripts without it...
yeah, right. While Apache is still free, I want to get this box
up and running but if the hardware's not supported, I'll need to
find a more expensive ISP who gives me shell access.
After 12 years on the net I am *spoiled* and figure hours and days
are way too long to wait for an answer but I've been at this one
for almost two weeks--so glad to finally find the *RIGHT* forum
for asking this question! ;]
ADthanxVANCE!
-sry
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Phoenix Rising stands accused of saying:
>
> (1) Does FreeBSD support iOmega Jaz drives at all?
Yes. I have one.
> (2) Can I install/run FreeBSD off a Jaz disk the same
> way (or similarly to) one runs it off a CD-ROM?
You can't run FreeBSD off a CD-ROM. You can indeed use the Jaz for
FreeBSD, and if the Adaptec sees it as one of the first two BIOS
disks you may even be able to boot from it.
Note that while the Jaz is mounted, you can't change disks, and if you
use it as a system disk (ie. any of /, /var or /usr on it) you
won't be able to swap it while FreeBSD is running.
> Sarah R. Yoffa - PGP Ver. 2.6.2 Public Key ID D023E649
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* So what kind of impact does this have on `make world'?
*
* It can't be *that* bad -- unless ECC disables the cache ...
*
* I think your benchmark is hitting a sour-spot.
Well, I didn't actually try a "make world" but the system did seem
extremely sluggish with the ECC turned on. I couldn't stand it so I
turned it off again....
Satoshi (P5-133, BTW)
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Ok, cool. Thanks to a couple of fine folks on this list, I now have
my zip drive working w/r/t msdos mounting and raw device usage. Now,
I'd like to create "real" filesystems on Zip drives, but I don't have
a disktab entry for it.
PS: It's slow as a dog, or so it seems to me, and, worse yet, it seems
to make my system really sluggish. Has anybody spent time tuning it?
I'm on a 486Dx4-100 with a fast parallel port, so I'd expect my system
to pretty much be able to keep up if the Zip drive can.
PPS: I'm unclear on the distinction between /dev/rsd0 and /dev/rsd0c
(or /dev/rfd0 vs. /dev/rfd0c for that matter). I use the former as
a rule but much of the doc favors the latter. Can anybody clue me in?
PPPS: Anybody noticed stray irq 7's with the zip driver? I keep getting
console messages about this from the kernel.
PPPPS: For any of these, if you point me to TFM, I'll be happy to RTFM.
Thanks.
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From: Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
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>Ok, cool. Thanks to a couple of fine folks on this list, I now have
>my zip drive working w/r/t msdos mounting and raw device usage. Now,
>I'd like to create "real" filesystems on Zip drives, but I don't have
>a disktab entry for it.
It doesn't need a disktab entry. Treat it as an array of sectors.
>PS: It's slow as a dog, or so it seems to me, and, worse yet, it seems
>to make my system really sluggish. Has anybody spent time tuning it?
>I'm on a 486Dx4-100 with a fast parallel port, so I'd expect my system
>to pretty much be able to keep up if the Zip drive can.
Slowness is probably normal for the parallel port version. I used the
SCSI version for root and swap on a 486DX2/66 with nfs-mounted /usr
for a few months. It was about the same speed as nfs.
>PPS: I'm unclear on the distinction between /dev/rsd0 and /dev/rsd0c
>(or /dev/rfd0 vs. /dev/rfd0c for that matter). I use the former as
>a rule but much of the doc favors the latter. Can anybody clue me in?
/dev/rsd0 is the whole disk. /dev/rsd0c is the `c' partition on the
first BSD slice on the disk if the disk happens to have a BSD slice
on it. If the first BSD slice happens to cover the whole disk and
the `c' partition on it covers the whole slice, then /dev/rsd0 and
/dev/rsd0c describe the same region of the disk, otherwise not. They
are logically distinct in all cases. E.g., you can write a label to
/dev/rsd0c (if it exists) but the label on /dev/rsd0 is read-only.
Bruce
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Subject: Re: Zip II: the disktab entry
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|Ok, cool. Thanks to a couple of fine folks on this list, I now have
|my zip drive working w/r/t msdos mounting and raw device usage. Now,
|I'd like to create "real" filesystems on Zip drives, but I don't have
|a disktab entry for it.
You don't need a new disktab. Just use that one.
To create a "real" (i.e. UFS) file system on a ZIP, here's a script I use
that might help get you started. make-ufs-zip.sh uses Darryl Okahata's
(darrylo@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com) enhanced fdisk that allows the partition info
to be specified via stdin.
You'll probably need to tweak the device as my SCSI zip is on sd0, and I
don't know what device a parallel ZIP sits on (lpd0? :-).
Hope this gets you goin'.
Randall Hopper
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I changed my video card for my freebsd box which is a 2.20 snap 80196.
The old card was a stealth 64 pci card and I moved down to a Local Bus
video card. When ever I look at my console I can't read it. I would like
to know what in the kernel I might need to change. Please let me know.
Adam
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I would much appreciate anyone who could shed light on
jumper settings etc, for a motherboard & combi card
that I was given without any docs:
MOTHERBOARD :
Width: 22cm (8.65"),
Length: 25cm (9.8"),
Front of board: "V1.0" in big white letters by keyboard socket
+ white label Assembled in China
Back of board: "OA 405-1.0 E2h6"
Bus: 4 * ISA, 3 * PCI,
Memory: 8 Mem Slots,
Bank 0: 4 * { SIM with 2 * N41-C + 1 * Siemens HYB511000BJ-70 }
Bank 1: 4 * { SIM with 2 * ? + 1 * OKI }
Cache: 8 * ALLIANCE AS7C256-20PC 9423 USA C, + 1 * UM61256AK-15 94230 R32382
BIOS: AMI Chip American Megatrends 486DX ISA BIOS AB6128305
On boot annonces as C. 1993 (so I presume no > 528M BIOS support
CPU: 486 66MHz (+ Fan on bronze coloured aluminium),
Layout diagram: As per Mime diagram attached, &
duplicated on http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html
Jumper settings as received are:
JP 1: 0 X-X 0
JP 2: 0 X-X
JP 3: X-X 0 Soldered, No pins
JP 4: Closed
JP 5: Closed
JP 6: Closed
JP 7: Closed
JP 8: Closed
JP 9: 0 X-X
JP 10: 0 X-X
JP 11: Closed
JP 12: Closed
JP 13: Open
JP 14: Closed
JP 15: Open
JP 16: POW LED /KEY LOCK Box wiring: Green Open White Blue White
JP 17: SPEAKER Box wiring: Red Open Open Black
JP 18: TB LED Box wiring: Yellow White
JP 19: RESET Box wiring: White Blue
JP 20: TB SW Box wiring: Unused (Yelllow White Black Cable floating free)
JP 21: Open
JP 22: X-X X-X ie 1 & 2 connected, & 3 & 4 connected
JP 23: X-X 0
JP 24: 0 X-X Soldered, No pins
JP 25: X-X 0 Soldered, No pins
JP 26: Closed
COMBI CARD:
2 Serial, 1 parallel, 1 games port, + floppy + ide hard disc interfaces
Bus physically appears as: PCI Bus
Screen Print: UN 1081 VL FCC ID: J8Y2278VL Assy Rev A
Card Layout:
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| +--+ +-----+ +-----+ +----------+ +----------+ +-----------+ +-- |
| |J1| |J2 40| |J3 34| |Game 16/15| X-X |Ser 1 10/9| |Ser 2 10/25| | |
| | | +-----+ +-----+ +----------+ W26 +----------+ +-----------+ | |
| +--+ | |
| DTC +-----+ Winbond WINBOND | |
| +----+ | W 6 | | |
| | W1 | | | | |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | +------+ +-----------+ | |
| | W5 | | W17 | |24 MHz| | W18 - W25 | | |
| +----+ +-----+ +------+ +-----------+ |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
White sticker on back:
3 (marked on 12 boxes, one per month)
Warranty void if removed 1994
QC Passed: 1st of 2 boxes marked. Made in China
Parallel port #1 (on board) has
8 * { 33 ohm resistors & ceramic capacitors marked 222}
3 chips:
Big: Winbond W83758P 351AB13365780 68 pin
Small: Winbond W83757F 343TA13353880 100 pin
Small: DTC 805 B R 9349 900061-01 100 pin
1 2 3
W 1 X-X .
W 2 . X-X
W 3 . X-X
W 4 . X-X
W 5 X-X .
----------------
W 6 X-X .
W 7 . X-X
W 8 . X-X
W 9 X-X .
W10 X-X .
W11 X-X .
W12 . X-X
W13 X-X .
W14 . X-X
W15 . X-X
W16 X-X .
W17 X-X .
----------------
W18 X-X
W19 . .
W20 . .
W21 X-X
W22 . .
W23 . .
W24 X-X
W25 . .
----------------
W26 X-X
Hard Disk Red --- J1
Hard Disk White --- H (hole through rest of word, presume high)
Open Circuit --- Active
Open Circuit ---
To make it easier for anyone with a non Mime mailer,
Ive put the motherboard diagram up on the web:
http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html
Once again, any info gratefully received, Thanks :-)
Julian
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Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/
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> To create a "real" (i.e. UFS) file system on a ZIP, here's a script I use
> that might help get you started. make-ufs-zip.sh uses Darryl Okahata's
> (darrylo@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com) enhanced fdisk that allows the partition info
> to be specified via stdin.
Unfortunately, not all of my fdisk changes made it into 2.2. I
took out the "-f" option, as it duplicates functionality that's in
disklabel (in particular, if "-f" was left in, the nasty magic that
creates "dangerously dedicated disks" would be in two places, which
could cause maintenance problems).
Fortunately, there's an easier way to create dedicated disks.
Instructions (old) have been appended to this message. Note that the
following works for 2.2-current and later; I don't think it works for
2.1.5 or 2.1.6 or earlier.
-- Darryl Okahata
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DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not
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===============================================================================
If and only if all of the following are true:
* You're an intermediate- to expert-level user. (DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT
DOING THE FOLLOWING IF YOU'RE A NOVICE USER!)
* You have a SCSI disk (IDE drives may work in the following, but I
don't know).
* You want to dedicate the *ENTIRE* disk to FreeBSD. This is
*IMPORTANT*, as the following assumes that you really do want to
dedicate the entire disk to FreeBSD (yes, *all* of it). If you want
to use even a teensy, tiny part of the disk for something else like
MSDOS or Windows, you CANNOT use the following instructions. Period.
* You have no data on the disk that you want to keep.
* You don't mind losing ALL DATA that is currently on the disk.
* You don't mind destroying any and all MSDOS or Windows 3.1/95/NT or
any other information that is on the disk.
* You don't plan on using or sharing the disk with other operating
systems (e.g., MSDOS or Windows).
* You want to partition the *ENTIRE* FreeBSD slice into a single FreeBSD
filesystem. (If this isn't true, you have to change the "newfs"
command below.)
Then, the easiest way to add a dedicated disk is the following:
* First, determine the base disk name of the disk you want to
add/dedicate (e.g., "sd1").
* Assuming that "sd1" really is correct, do the following (assuming
Bourne shell /bin/sh syntax):
# This won't work if you're using /bin/csh:
d=sd1
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/r$d count=2
disklabel /dev/r$d | disklabel -B -R -r $d /dev/stdin
# We only want one partition, so using slice 'c' should be fine:
newfs /dev/r${d}c
(Thanks to Bruce Evans for the procedure.)
You can then mount the drive via a command like:
mount /dev/${d}c /mnt
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Hello!
Maybe someone will help me with my old but still working QIC-02
controller. It's 8-bit, fullsize and probabily was made by Everex. It
has a LOT of undocumented jumpers, some of caps were lost :-(
I need to know which jumpers should be shorted. Everex doesn't support
these devices anymore...
Alex.
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> I changed my video card for my freebsd box which is a 2.20 snap 80196.
> The old card was a stealth 64 pci card and I moved down to a Local Bus
> video card. When ever I look at my console I can't read it. I would like
> to know what in the kernel I might need to change. Please let me know.
Maybe I am misunderstanding this, but YOU changed your hardware -- Now
you can't read it, and you want to know what WE did to make that happen?
Hmm.. Very perplexing indeed.. :=)
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Hello,
Thanks to all who helped me with the ZX314.
I have one more. Would you please help with an SMP problem or
direct me to the right newsgroup?
Apparently FreeBSD v2.1.6 now supports SMP but we need detailed
information about files and where to get them.
TIA,
Nasir.
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Hello,
Sorry, but I know that a patch has been made to support the new
version of the SMC Etherpower 10/100 (BDT), but in which version of
the FreeBSD kernel is it in 2.1.6, 2.2 or both?
Thanks in advance.
Tony
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Hi,
> I have one more. Would you please help with an SMP problem or
> direct me to the right newsgroup?
> Apparently FreeBSD v2.1.6 now supports SMP but we need detailed
> information about files and where to get them.
not true, SMP is at ALPHA level, and kept in a separate tree, see:
http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html
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Robert Shady writes:
> > I changed my video card for my freebsd box which is a 2.20 snap 80196.
> > The old card was a stealth 64 pci card and I moved down to a Local Bus
> > video card. When ever I look at my console I can't read it. I would like
> > to know what in the kernel I might need to change. Please let me know.
>
> Maybe I am misunderstanding this, but YOU changed your hardware -- Now
> you can't read it, and you want to know what WE did to make that happen?
Offhand I'd say that's not at all what he's asking. He said he changed
his hardware, and now would like to know how to rebuild the kernel so it
works with his new hardware.
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From: Barney Wolff <barney@databus.com>
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I have an EV-811 Rev B sitting in front of me. After blowing the dust
off, here's what I see:
A set of switches on the lower left, that selects the IO base address.
I used 0x300, with means switches 1-8 up, 9&10 down. I believe the
rightmost switches are the IO address with bits reversed.
Next to the switches is a bank of 12 jumpers. From the left, the first
3 and the last three select the DMA to use - they have to match. The
leftmost jumper is for dma 1, then 2 then 3. You have to find an unused
dma channel.
The middle 6 jumpers in the block are the irq select. From the left,
these are 3,4,5,6,7,2/9.
The single jumper just above the right side of the jumper block is marked
"dr3en" on my board, presumably meaning "dma channel 3 enable".
Good luck,
Barney Wolff <barney@databus.com>
A century ago, the family name was Zarambuvitch.
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:18:10 +0300
> From: Alex Povolotsky <tarkhil@minas_tirith.aha.ru>
> To: hardware@freebsd.org
> Reply-To: tarkhil@aha.ru
> Subject: A _very_ old streamer controller
> Content-Length: 308
>
> Hello!
>
> Maybe someone will help me with my old but still working QIC-02
> controller. It's 8-bit, fullsize and probabily was made by Everex. It
> has a LOT of undocumented jumpers, some of caps were lost :-(
>
> I need to know which jumpers should be shorted. Everex doesn't support
> these devices anymore...
>
> Alex.
>
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At 02:10 PM 12/20/96 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> duplicated on http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html
Is not a valid url. :(
Ulf.
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Hmmm, from the gif you attach also to the email, I would say it is a 486VLB
board, not a PCI. The 486VLB with PCchips sticker were sold often in
Germany. Try WeCo (Weit Computer) in Luebeck, they sold a larger number of
them as far I know. Ask for Swen Eisenkraemer and tell him you come from
me. He should have still a handbook for it.
Ulf.
At 02:10 PM 12/20/96 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>I would much appreciate anyone who could shed light on
>jumper settings etc, for a motherboard & combi card
>that I was given without any docs:
>
>MOTHERBOARD :
> Width: 22cm (8.65"),
> Length: 25cm (9.8"),
> Front of board: "V1.0" in big white letters by keyboard socket
> + white label Assembled in China
> Back of board: "OA 405-1.0 E2h6"
> Bus: 4 * ISA, 3 * PCI,
> Memory: 8 Mem Slots,
> Bank 0: 4 * { SIM with 2 * N41-C + 1 * Siemens HYB511000BJ-70 }
> Bank 1: 4 * { SIM with 2 * ? + 1 * OKI }
> Cache: 8 * ALLIANCE AS7C256-20PC 9423 USA C, + 1 * UM61256AK-15 94230 R32382
> BIOS: AMI Chip American Megatrends 486DX ISA BIOS AB6128305
> On boot annonces as C. 1993 (so I presume no > 528M BIOS support
> CPU: 486 66MHz (+ Fan on bronze coloured aluminium),
>
> Layout diagram: As per Mime diagram attached, &
> duplicated on http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html
>
> Jumper settings as received are:
>
> JP 1: 0 X-X 0
> JP 2: 0 X-X
> JP 3: X-X 0 Soldered, No pins
> JP 4: Closed
> JP 5: Closed
> JP 6: Closed
> JP 7: Closed
> JP 8: Closed
> JP 9: 0 X-X
> JP 10: 0 X-X
> JP 11: Closed
> JP 12: Closed
> JP 13: Open
> JP 14: Closed
> JP 15: Open
> JP 16: POW LED /KEY LOCK Box wiring: Green Open White Blue White
> JP 17: SPEAKER Box wiring: Red Open Open Black
> JP 18: TB LED Box wiring: Yellow White
> JP 19: RESET Box wiring: White Blue
> JP 20: TB SW Box wiring: Unused (Yelllow White Black Cable floating free)
> JP 21: Open
> JP 22: X-X X-X ie 1 & 2 connected, & 3 & 4 connected
> JP 23: X-X 0
> JP 24: 0 X-X Soldered, No pins
> JP 25: X-X 0 Soldered, No pins
> JP 26: Closed
>
>
>COMBI CARD:
> 2 Serial, 1 parallel, 1 games port, + floppy + ide hard disc interfaces
> Bus physically appears as: PCI Bus
> Screen Print: UN 1081 VL FCC ID: J8Y2278VL Assy Rev A
> Card Layout:
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | +--+ +-----+ +-----+ +----------+ +----------+ +-----------+ +-- |
> | |J1| |J2 40| |J3 34| |Game 16/15| X-X |Ser 1 10/9| |Ser 2 10/25| | |
> | | | +-----+ +-----+ +----------+ W26 +----------+ +-----------+ | |
> | +--+ | |
> | DTC +-----+ Winbond WINBOND | |
> | +----+ | W 6 | | |
> | | W1 | | | | |
> | | | | | | |
> | | | | | +------+ +-----------+ | |
> | | W5 | | W17 | |24 MHz| | W18 - W25 | | |
> | +----+ +-----+ +------+ +-----------+ |
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>
> White sticker on back:
> 3 (marked on 12 boxes, one per month)
> Warranty void if removed 1994
> QC Passed: 1st of 2 boxes marked. Made in China
>
> Parallel port #1 (on board) has
> 8 * { 33 ohm resistors & ceramic capacitors marked 222}
> 3 chips:
> Big: Winbond W83758P 351AB13365780 68 pin
> Small: Winbond W83757F 343TA13353880 100 pin
> Small: DTC 805 B R 9349 900061-01 100 pin
>
> 1 2 3
> W 1 X-X .
> W 2 . X-X
> W 3 . X-X
> W 4 . X-X
> W 5 X-X .
> ----------------
> W 6 X-X .
> W 7 . X-X
> W 8 . X-X
> W 9 X-X .
> W10 X-X .
> W11 X-X .
> W12 . X-X
> W13 X-X .
> W14 . X-X
> W15 . X-X
> W16 X-X .
> W17 X-X .
> ----------------
> W18 X-X
> W19 . .
> W20 . .
> W21 X-X
> W22 . .
> W23 . .
> W24 X-X
> W25 . .
> ----------------
> W26 X-X
>
> Hard Disk Red --- J1
> Hard Disk White --- H (hole through rest of word, presume high)
> Open Circuit --- Active
> Open Circuit ---
>
>
>To make it easier for anyone with a non Mime mailer,
>Ive put the motherboard diagram up on the web:
> http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html
>
>Once again, any info gratefully received, Thanks :-)
>
>Julian
>--
>Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/
>
>
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