From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 07:08:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA17207 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 07:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA17202 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 07:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from cod.connix.com (cod.connix.com [205.246.96.249]) by comet.connix.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA13970 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:08:21 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:08:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199602181508.KAA13970@comet.connix.com> X-Sender: cod@connix.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "C. O'Donnell" Subject: Re: mail question... Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 05:14 PM 2/15/96 -0800, Michael Dillon wrote: >Or if they would put a FreeBSD box on their network (an old 386 perhaps) >you could configure it to run a dialin script that makes a PPP connection >and then runs POPMAIL for each usera nd deposits each user's email in a >separate mailbox on the FreeBSD machine. Then they can just run Eudora or >Pegasus on each desktop and the FreeBSD box will be acting as their mail >server. Of course, this requires all machines to be running a TCP/IP >stack. This is unlikely if they have Novell 3.x > We have a customer with a Macintosh network who put two modems on the file server that are usable from any workstation on the network. We have a separate mail account for each employee on our machine and they dial up individually to get their mail via MacPPP/POP3. This is inefficient but it works and it's cost effective for a small company (this one has 10 employees). I imagine it would not be the right solution for a larger company. If anyone does find a good solution to network FBSD <-> novell, WinNT, and Mac please post it. Does FBSD have any Appletalk or IPX support? Chuck From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 08:07:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA20017 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 08:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from black.gensys.com (black.gensys.com [206.109.98.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20012 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 08:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhupp@localhost) by black.gensys.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA01724; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:07:38 -0600 From: Jeff Hupp Message-Id: <199602181607.KAA01724@black.gensys.com> Subject: Re: mail question... To: codonnell@bus.net (C. O'Donnell) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:07:37 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602181508.KAA13970@comet.connix.com> from "C. O'Donnell" at Feb 18, 96 10:08:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > At 05:14 PM 2/15/96 -0800, Michael Dillon wrote: > > If anyone does find a good solution to network FBSD <-> novell, WinNT, and Mac > please post it. Does FBSD have any Appletalk or IPX support? > > Chuck Oh wow, haven't you seen/heard of mercury? SMTP for Novell. Supports the Pegasus mail line of programs. They do novell and Internet mail, clients are available for Windows, DOS and MAC. ftp://risc.ua.edu/pub/network/pegasus> is a directory with it all. Pegasus and Mercury is freeware. Mercury runs under the TCP/IP package for Novell, it needs a smart mailer for outgoing mail (but will take incoming mail directly) Two and a half good implementations are possible. FreeBSD running UUCP every once and a while to talk to the world and sending mail to Mercury over the local net via SMTP, FreeBSD running dedicated PPP/SLIP, or FreeBSD running on demand PPP and while that's running picking up mail via UUCP over TCP/IP ~ I have run all three and all are acceptable for small to medium sized business. If they want dedicated ISDN, you don't even need a Unix box at their site, just put in an Ascend Pipeline 50, Mercury on a file server, and use it ISP's system for a smart mailer. - -- X, windows done right... Jeff Hupp PGP Public Key available at http://gensys.com or on the key servers -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMSdOwzUjeCeeebC9AQFAKAf9ES0mu+GZcwr3On9w26K9+A7Oq7mD89Hl vCgxQecCEt8hPYXjyR5xynOn+3s/QKmeXYq7ja45pXT1b57Gbd1W+rfIC4JVm/Gw y2nEgpGj90IkNOaTRRsQv3ZuXEKOPmpCpYvmlKqvUwE/znhWA+V/K2FfZy45IZlV gtliHox4gOiVXWFrjBmQkGnrbpEvl1o/nyW7OJ2Mdw0bJybV/X+Es810GkkPjGup Ez4IUi+p1Mn7A4I6Xc2ecB7grpaXuFlJYFtbUnfuu0jxiAJHPZl7PYmQs0oaFvJJ GMgMUTAe5luikhzh9cHYy8TErpZTQprRXgn2meODjceJNitNEllWmw== =LRr6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 00:58:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA12654 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from zodiak.tu.kielce.pl (andrzej@zodiak.tu.kielce.pl [193.59.4.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12649 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andrzej@localhost) by zodiak.tu.kielce.pl (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA00433 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:55:58 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:55:58 +0100 From: Andrzej Szydlo Message-Id: <199602190855.JAA00433@zodiak.tu.kielce.pl> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Subscription Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subscribe freebsd-isp From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 19:37:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA15958 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pod.spirit.com.au (pod.spirit.com.au [203.8.218.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15777 Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:35:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from goliath.spirit.net.au by pod.spirit.com.au (8.7.3/1.01SP) id OAA18246; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:37:18 +1100 (EST) Received: (from rich@localhost) by goliath.spirit.net.au (8.7.3/8.7.3-SPclient) id OAA00250; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:37:44 +1100 (EST) From: Rich Siggs Message-Id: <199602200337.OAA00250@goliath.spirit.net.au> Subject: Q: exportable DES library & "DES How To" for 2.1-STABLE To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:37:42 +1100 (EST) Cc: rich@goliath.spirit.net.au (Rich Siggs) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am having some grief with the conversion/use of DES password encryption on my 2.1-STABLE hosts and I'm looking for definitive non-US sources of the DES source distibutions (des.aa), plus a guide to the migration & use of DES on 2.1 (in particular, I'm lead to believe that there's a version of the DES distrib that can deal with _both_ DES & MD5 passwords - that'd be good! ;) As a bit of background, my motivation for doing this is to upgrade my Servers from "'ole faithful" (aka. fBSD 1.1.5.1-RELEASE) to 2.1-STABLE, but avoiding at all costs the saga of forcing password changes on 100s of clients. (which I'm just not even contemplating.. :|) My assumption is that once the right DES s/ware is installed to 2.1, I can simply take fBSD 1.1 master.passwd over to 2.1, run pwd_mkdb & login without trouble - is this correct? Finally, I have obtained a (supposed) "non-US" 2.1 des.aa from a site in Japan, but there were no diffs between its files & those of the "US" des.aa & though that sure did give me DES passwds, taking a fBSD 1.1 passwd entry over to that 2.1-STABLE host didn't allow me to login.. *sigh* Any and all help much appreciated & apologies for any inappropriate cross-mailing of this message, but I'm also interested in any comments other fBSD ISPs may have on the subject of migration to 2.1.. Many thanks & keep up the fine work, Rich. -- Richard Siggs admin@spirit.net.au Spirit Networks Pty Ltd http://www.spirit.net.au P.O. Box 486 +61 6 281 3552 Curtin. ACT. Australia 2605 +61 414 486 708 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 20:17:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA18238 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA18225 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA14892 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:17:50 -0700 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:17:42 -0700 (MST) From: Stephen Fisher To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Server hardware considerations.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings all. I am strongly looking into converting my current [ISP] server from Linux to FreeBSD. I will do this by starting up a secondary server running FreeBSD, then possibly converting the main server to FreeBSD also. I've had bad luck with my hardware setup for Linux (I didn't buy the parts specifically for Linux like I am going to do now) so I want a very robust server to work with. I would like r of 10..20..30 days or more unless I take it down voluntarily. I have read many posts in newsgroups and mailing lists and in FreeBSD howtos/faqs and put together a first summary of basically what I am looking for. Please discuss how good/bad the system will be with me. This is a small system (only about 200 users right now but growing very fast) 10 users online at a time and multiple web servers, FTP servers, and so on will be running. However, it must be able to handle more in the near future. I am not concerned with FreeBSD handling PPP users, since my PortMasters do that already. CPU: 486DX4/133, I have a 486DX4/100 right now and am pleased except when I started [my home 486dx4 and the server] I had terrible problems with Segmentation faults, Signal 11, on Linux. It seems many people had/have those problems, do they exist in FreeBSD? How much faster would a Pentium 133 be? Is it worth it? Or maybe a totally different system. Bus: PCI most likely. I use VLB right now. RAM: 16 meg to start with, maybe 32, There aren't any special considerations I should take when getting the RAM are there? Mother Board: I've seen that ASUS MBs are very nice but their home pages don't list prices which probably means they're high priced;) About how much do they run? I am looking for mid-range robust hardware, nothing cheap or specular. Any other MB types to look into? SCSI Controller: Adaptec 2940/PCI. This appears to be a good mid-range card, should I get fast/wide/or what.. Is there any difference that I should keep in mind? I use an Adaptec 152x now. Disk: SCSI 1.08GIG Conner (it's in my Linux server right now). Network: 3c509B. This is what I have now and it seems to be a very good card. CDROM: SCSI 2x Tape backup: SCSI.. I have no idea what is best, I am using a cheap and slow floppy-tape drives right now and haven't been very pleased. People have suggested using "Amanda" to do backups, also using just plain tar. Basically, I want to do nightly incremental backups and weekly full backups - not changing the tape daily. I may be going overboard being so cautious when getting this hardware but I want a nice system =) I can supply more details if you want. Thanks in advance! - Steve - Systems Manager From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 21:19:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA21240 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:19:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from nervosa.com (root@nervosa.com [192.187.228.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA21232 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nervosa.com (coredump@onyx.nervosa.com [10.0.0.1]) by nervosa.com (8.7.3/nervosa.com.2) with SMTP id VAA01820; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:19:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:19:12 -0800 (PST) From: invalid opcode To: Stephen Fisher cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server hardware considerations.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Stephen Fisher wrote: > a Pentium 133 be? Is it worth it? Or maybe a totally different system. Yes, currently, get a 166. > Bus: PCI most likely. I use VLB right now. PCI. > RAM: 16 meg to start with, maybe 32, There aren't any special 32megs minimum. > Mother Board: I've seen that ASUS MBs are very nice but their home pages > don't list prices which probably means they're high priced;) About how I've heard these are very good for FreeBSD. > SCSI Controller: Adaptec 2940/PCI. This appears to be a good mid-range Get the wide. > Disk: SCSI 1.08GIG Conner (it's in my Linux server right now). Either use this, or get a 2gig+ Quantum. > Network: 3c509B. This is what I have now and it seems to be a very good > card. Yes, the 3c509 card is good, you might want to look into the 3c5x PCI cards. > CDROM: SCSI 2x Get a 4X, MINIMUM. > Tape backup: SCSI.. I have no idea what is best, I am using a cheap > and slow floppy-tape drives right now and haven't been very pleased. I've heard that the ExaByte 4gigs are very nice. > - Steve > - Systems Manager == Chris Layne ============================================================= == coredump@nervosa.com ================= http://www.nervosa.com/~coredump == From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 21:33:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA22081 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gbdata.com (tty10.com2.houston.net [198.65.148.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21993 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA05029 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:33:42 -0600 From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199602200533.XAA05029@main.gbdata.com> Subject: Portmasters, where to get? To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:33:40 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: gclarkii@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm starting a new job with an ISP here in Houston, and was wondering were is the best place to get a portmaster? Cost? Number of Ports? Any info is needed.... Thanks, Gary -- Gary Clark II gclarkii@GBData.COM gclarkii@FreeBSD.ORG gclarkii@NWPros.COM From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 22:07:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA23453 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (michael@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23448 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michael@localhost) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id WAA19806; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:14:02 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:14:00 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon X-Sender: michael@okjunc.junction.net To: invalid opcode cc: Stephen Fisher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Server hardware considerations.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, invalid opcode wrote: > > a Pentium 133 be? Is it worth it? Or maybe a totally different system. > > Yes, currently, get a 166. CPU speed isn't that important on this kind of server. > > RAM: 16 meg to start with, maybe 32, There aren't any special > > 32megs minimum. 16 megs is just fine unless it is going to run INN or a heavy load of shell users. > > CDROM: SCSI 2x > > Get a 4X, MINIMUM. Get a 1X if it's cheaper. After you install the OS you'll never use this. Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 22:17:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA23725 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23719 Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA22884; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:14:48 -0800 To: Rich Siggs cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: exportable DES library & "DES How To" for 2.1-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:37:42 +1100." <199602200337.OAA00250@goliath.spirit.net.au> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:14:48 -0800 Message-ID: <22882.824796888@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings, > > I am having some grief with the conversion/use of DES password encryption > on my 2.1-STABLE hosts and I'm looking for definitive non-US sources of the D ES > source distibutions (des.aa), plus a guide to the migration & use of DES on > 2.1 (in particular, I'm lead to believe that there's a version of the DES > distrib that can deal with _both_ DES & MD5 passwords - that'd be good! ;) 1. The definitive site for international bits is ftp.internat.freebsd.org (though it could really use some mirrors - South Africa is often unreachable). 2. The split DES/MD5 feature is part of 2.2-CURRENT right now and would require some custom merging. Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 22:30:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA24402 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA24396 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.uniserve.com id <31101-18211>; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:32:45 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:32:41 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: invalid opcode cc: Stephen Fisher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Server hardware considerations.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, invalid opcode wrote: > > CDROM: SCSI 2x > > Get a 4X, MINIMUM. Would probably be a complete waste for a internet server, unless you want to share out to other machines in your office, in which case, you'd be better off putting it into another machine in your office. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 00:12:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA28366 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 00:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA28361 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 00:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecpi.com ([204.251.36.4]) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA01348; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 02:15:44 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 02:15:44 GMT Message-Id: <199602200215.CAA01348@ecpi.com> X-Sender: tpatel@ecpi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: tpatel@ecpi.com (Tushar Patel) Subject: Please Help: After few days PPP and SLIP stops working? Cc: tpatel@ecpi.com.comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have strange proble, PPP and slip stops operating after few days in operation. If I reboot the FreeBSD machine every thing starts working properly. I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5. I have 2 dialin lines and I have few people who used trumpet winsock to dialin. After dialing in they use Netscape and Eudora like program on their PC. Every thing works fine initially. After few days in operation (3 days) the trumpet winsock connects to the FreeBSD box. It gets it IP address from the FreeBSD box by slip or PPP correctly, but the PC is not able communicate with FreeBSD box. I have turned on the trace on the trumpet winsock and I do see message being sent by the PC to the FreeBSD box correctly, but I don't see any reply from the FreeBSD machine. The most puzzeling is, if I just reboot the FreeBSD machine every thing starts working normally and correctly. Is there some bug in the FreeBSD 2.0.5 which I should know? Is there something I am doing wrong or have set it up wrong? Thanks for taking time. Tushar From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 00:19:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA28795 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 00:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (root@grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA28782 Tue, 20 Feb 1996 00:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (mark@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03068; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:18:10 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199602200818.KAA03068@grumble.grondar.za> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Rich Siggs , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: exportable DES library & "DES How To" for 2.1-STABLE Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:18:09 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > 1. The definitive site for international bits is ftp.internat.freebsd.org > (though it could really use some mirrors - South Africa is often > unreachable). Volunteers, please! > > 2. The split DES/MD5 feature is part of 2.2-CURRENT right now and would > require some custom merging. It is in 2.1-STABLE now as well. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 01:47:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA03085 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA03071 Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA23631; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:46:43 -0800 To: Mark Murray cc: Rich Siggs , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: exportable DES library & "DES How To" for 2.1-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:18:09 +0200." <199602200818.KAA03068@grumble.grondar.za> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:46:43 -0800 Message-ID: <23629.824809603@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > 2. The split DES/MD5 feature is part of 2.2-CURRENT right now and would > > require some custom merging. > > It is in 2.1-STABLE now as well. Thanks for the clarification - it's hard to keep track! :-) Speaking of which, I guess I'd better move the `test -h' changes over. Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 06:00:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA13827 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from xioa.cosmic.org (xioa.cosmic.org [205.218.96.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA13820 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jwb@localhost) by xioa.cosmic.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA02394 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:01:39 GMT From: Joe Beiter Message-Id: <199602200901.JAA02394@xioa.cosmic.org> Subject: rdump supported?? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:01:39 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know if there are problems with rdump on freebsd 2.1? I'm trying to dump to an osf/1 system. This command: rdump -f foo.bar.com:/dev/4mm / On a freebsd 2.1 system yeilds the following output: ------ bash# rdump -f foo.bar.com:/dev/4mm / DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Feb 20 04:00:07 1996 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/rsd0a (/) to /dev/4mm on host foo.bar.com DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 113332 tape blocks on 2.91 tape(s). DUMP: Protocol to remote tape server botched (code "bash: rmt: command not fou nd"). rdump: Lost connection to remote host. DUMP: Bad return code from dump: 1 ------- I've checked the obvious things like path and the man pages to dump,rdump, and rmt. The same command works on other osf/1 systems. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 06:55:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA15805 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA15798 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA24726; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:54:17 -0800 Message-ID: <3129E098.ABD322C@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:54:16 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Organization: Walnut Creek CDROM X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc To: Stephen Fisher CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Server hardware considerations.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Fisher wrote: > I've had bad luck with my hardware setup for Linux (I didn't buy the parts > specifically for Linux like I am going to do now) so I want a very robust > server to work with. I would like r of 10..20..30 days or more > unless I take it down voluntarily. Just FYI - I've made a list of the hardware which has worked properly for me, and you can find it at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/hw.html (along with what other generally useful hardware info we've managed to get written down). > CPU: 486DX4/133, I have a 486DX4/100 right now and am pleased except > when I started [my home 486dx4 and the server] I had terrible problems > with Segmentation faults, Signal 11, on Linux. It seems many people > had/have those problems, do they exist in FreeBSD? How much faster would > a Pentium 133 be? Is it worth it? Or maybe a totally different system. They can also exist under FreeBSD when you: a) Have bad cache RAM b) Have a flakey motherboard c) Are driving some component beyond its rated spec d) Are driving your AMD DX4 too fast (I saw a system that was instability incarnate until it was clocked down from 100Mhz to 75Mhz). Not that any of these are your problems, but I've personally seen all 4 result in flakey systems. > Bus: PCI most likely. I use VLB right now. Good move. VLB is to be avoided for a multitude of reasons. > RAM: 16 meg to start with, maybe 32, There aren't any special > considerations I should take when getting the RAM are there? Not so long as you get a PCI disk controller, no. > Mother Board: I've seen that ASUS MBs are very nice but their home pages > don't list prices which probably means they're high priced;) About how > much do they run? I am looking for mid-range robust hardware, nothing They're around $220, I think.. > cheap or specular. Any other MB types to look into? I've heard that Tyan motherboards are also noce. > SCSI Controller: Adaptec 2940/PCI. This appears to be a good mid-range > card, should I get fast/wide/or what.. Is there any difference that I > should keep in mind? I use an Adaptec 152x now. You might want to buy the "Ultra" version of this, which is ostensibly twice as fast, but it's a sound move to go with the Adaptec in any case. > Network: 3c509B. This is what I have now and it seems to be a very good > card. You're actually better off with a PCI ethernet card, just for general ease-of-use, but the 3C509 will also work. Good luck! -- - Jordan Hubbard President, FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 07:18:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA17032 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 07:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from aebeard.technion.ac.il (root@aebeard.technion.ac.il [132.68.146.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA17022 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 07:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by aebeard.technion.ac.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA20411; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:16:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:16:14 +0200 (IST) From: Yuri Gindin To: Joe Beiter cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rdump supported?? In-Reply-To: <199602200901.JAA02394@xioa.cosmic.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Joe Beiter wrote: > > Anyone know if there are problems with rdump on freebsd 2.1? I'm trying > to dump to an osf/1 system. > > This command: > > rdump -f foo.bar.com:/dev/4mm / > > On a freebsd 2.1 system yeilds the following output: > ------ > bash# rdump -f foo.bar.com:/dev/4mm / > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Feb 20 04:00:07 1996 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping /dev/rsd0a (/) to /dev/4mm on host foo.bar.com > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 113332 tape blocks on 2.91 tape(s). > DUMP: Protocol to remote tape server botched (code "bash: rmt: command not fou > nd"). > rdump: Lost connection to remote host. > DUMP: Bad return code from dump: 1 > ------- make a symbolic link /usr/sbin/rmt pointing to /etc/rmt on OSF/1. Best regards, /-----------------------------------------------------------------\ | \\ Yuri Gindin http://www.xpert.com/~yuri | | \\ // || Home: +972-4-282475 | | \\ // ___ ___ ___||__ Work: +972-4-545259 | | \// / --\ / --\ / --||-- Internet | | //\ || \\// __/ || || Network Integrarion | | // \\ ||__//\\____ || \\__ System Administration | | ==//===\\||======================= Finger to get PGP public key| \---------\||-------UNIX Systems LTD------------------------------/ From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 08:13:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA20148 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:13:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20133 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA10845; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:16:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:16:14 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602201616.JAA10845@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: tpatel@ecpi.com (Tushar Patel) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, tpatel@ecpi.com.comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Please Help: After few days PPP and SLIP stops working? In-Reply-To: <199602200215.CAA01348@ecpi.com> References: <199602200215.CAA01348@ecpi.com> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Tushar Patel writes: > I have strange proble, PPP and slip stops operating after few days in operation. > If I reboot the FreeBSD machine every thing starts working properly. > I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5. I'm running a 2.1 system and it works great. My advice is to upgrade. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 08:45:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA21751 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pr.erau.edu (moon.pr.erau.edu [192.101.135.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21744 Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from moon by pr.erau.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #18) id m0tovCE-0002dHC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 09:45 MST Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:45:46 -0700 (MST) From: Stephen Waits X-Sender: swaits@moon To: gclarkii@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Portmasters, where to get? In-Reply-To: <199602200533.XAA05029@main.gbdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Gary Clark II wrote: > I'm starting a new job with an ISP here in Houston, and was wondering were is > the best place to get a portmaster? Cost? Number of Ports? Why don't you ask/(join) the portmaster users' list?! portmaster-users-request@livingston.com There is also an archive (searchable!) of this list available - start at www.livingston.com and you'll find the site. --Steve (http://pr.erau.edu/~swaits) From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 10:19:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA25773 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:19:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25765 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tpatel@localhost) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA14593; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:22:54 GMT From: Tushar Patel Message-Id: <199602201222.MAA14593@ecpi.com> Subject: Semaphore operation To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:22:54 +0000 () Cc: tpatel@ecpi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there anything in the FreeBSD which will allow me to do semaphore operation? Like the semop() systemcall on the sun. Thanks, Tushar From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 13:55:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA08916 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from goombay.irbs.com (goombay.irbs.com [205.216.79.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08907 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jc@localhost) by goombay.irbs.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA14674; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:54:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199602202154.QAA14674@goombay.irbs.com> Subject: Re: Semaphore operation To: tpatel@ecpi.com (Tushar Patel) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: "John Capo" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602201222.MAA14593@ecpi.com> from "Tushar Patel" at Feb 20, 96 12:22:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Tushar Patel writes: > > Is there anything in the FreeBSD which will allow me to do semaphore > operation? > > Like the semop() systemcall on the sun. > goombay 241% man semop SEMOP(2) UNIX Programmer's Manual SEMOP(2) NAME semop - atomic array of operations on a semaphore set SYNOPSIS #include #include #include int semop(int semid, struct sembuf array[], unsigned nops) etc.... You need to build a kernel with the SystemV options enabled. Look in /sys/i386/conf/LINT for the particulars. John Capo jc@irbs.com IRBS Engineering High performance FreeBSD systems (305) 792-9551 Internet Consulting - ISP Solutions From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 19:33:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA29743 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.net.hk (john@gateway.hk.linkage.net [202.76.7.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29734 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from john@localhost) by gateway.net.hk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA02513; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:32:01 +0800 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:31:59 +0800 (HKT) From: John Beukema To: Bruce Bauman cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Bruce Bauman Subject: Re: mail question... In-Reply-To: <199602152308.SAA01684@itchy.mosquito.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Have them put a FreeBSD box on the network with user accounts, run POP3 on it and then set up mail via uucp to the user accounts. Users can pick it up using Eudora or netscape etc over the LAN. jbeukema On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Bruce Bauman wrote: > We have a customer who has a Novell network, and their users want to receive > Internet mail from us. This customer won't have a static IP address. They just > want to dial in and fetch mail from us, similar to the way our normal dialup > customers do (e.g. using POP). > > The problem is, they want a single machine on their end to basically dial us > up and snarf the mail for all of their users, and feed back the outgoing > mail to us for eventual delivery on the Internet. We want a simple solution. > > Any ideas? > > -- Bruce > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 00:53:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA18948 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from nervosa.com (root@nervosa.com [192.187.228.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA18943 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nervosa.com (coredump@onyx.nervosa.com [10.0.0.1]) by nervosa.com (8.7.3/nervosa.com.2) with SMTP id AAA06488; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:50:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:50:27 -0800 (PST) From: invalid opcode To: John Beukema cc: Bruce Bauman , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, Bruce Bauman Subject: Re: mail question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, John Beukema wrote: > Have them put a FreeBSD box on the network with user accounts, run POP3 > on it and then set up mail via uucp to the user accounts. Users can pick > it up using Eudora or netscape etc over the LAN. > jbeukema > > On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Bruce Bauman wrote: > > > We have a customer who has a Novell network, and their users want to receive > > Internet mail from us. This customer won't have a static IP address. They just > > want to dial in and fetch mail from us, similar to the way our normal dialup > > customers do (e.g. using POP). > > -- Bruce Somewhat of a good idea, BUT, if they don't even have a tcp/ip stack, forget it. One other option is to use a cc:mail gateway on the FreeBSD machine, and have mail forwarded to the cc:mail router on the Novell Network, and vice versa. == Chris Layne ============================================================== == coredump@nervosa.com ================= http://www.nervosa.com/~coredump == From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 06:56:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA22895 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 06:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA22888 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 06:56:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tpatel@localhost) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA07910; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:59:44 GMT From: Tushar Patel Message-Id: <199602220859.IAA07910@ecpi.com> Subject: Re:Help: PPP, SIOCAIFADD file exists on unexpected logg off. To: fyeung@fyeung5.netific.com (francis yeung) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:59:44 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602201856.SAA02257@fyeung5.netific.com> from "francis yeung" at Feb 20, 96 06:56:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Tushar, > > After the users logoff, do a "ps ax" and see if the > pppds are still around. If they do, there is your > problem. > > If you do see the pppd there, it is very easy to explain > why it recovers after the system is rebooted. > > Francis I did chek for the "pppd" processes but I could not find it. I had turned on the debug option in the PPP setup and I got following message. "SIOCAIFADDR file exists" This file some how gets created after improper termination by user on the dial in lines. After the creation of this file I see the problem discribed below. I tried to locate this file on the system and I could not find it. Can somebody help me on this? What is going on? Thanks, Tushar > > > > I have strange proble, PPP and slip stops operating after few days in operation. > > If I reboot the FreeBSD machine every thing starts working properly. > > I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5. > > > > I have 2 dialin lines and I have few people who used trumpet winsock to dialin. > > After dialing in they use Netscape and Eudora like program on their PC. > > Every thing works fine initially. After few days in operation (3 days) the > > trumpet winsock connects to the FreeBSD box. It gets it IP address from the > > FreeBSD box by slip or PPP correctly, but the PC is not able communicate with > > FreeBSD box. I have turned on the trace on the trumpet winsock and I do > > see message being sent by the PC to the FreeBSD box correctly, but I don't > > see any reply from the FreeBSD machine. The most puzzeling is, if I just > > reboot the FreeBSD machine every thing starts working normally and correctly. > > > > Is there some bug in the FreeBSD 2.0.5 which I should know? > > Is there something I am doing wrong or have set it up wrong? > > > > Thanks for taking time. > > > > Tushar > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 10:44:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA06301 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06296 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.83.177.4] (ppp04.stud.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.177.4]) by zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA01618; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:42:35 +0100 X-Sender: petzi@zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:42:45 +0100 To: tpatel@ecpi.com (Tushar Patel), freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: petzi@zit.th-darmstadt.de (Michael Beckmann) Subject: Re: Please Help: After few days PPP and SLIP stops working? Cc: tpatel@ecpi.com.comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 03:15 Uhr 20.2.1996, Tushar Patel wrote: >Is there some bug in the FreeBSD 2.0.5 which I should know? >Is there something I am doing wrong or have set it up wrong? Not necessarily. Did you look at /var/log/ppp.log ? Are there any unusual occurences in this log ? From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 14:16:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA23880 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sulaco.novagate.com (isplist@sulaco.novagate.com [205.138.138.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23832 Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:15:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from isplist@localhost) by sulaco.novagate.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA20894; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:15:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:15:46 -0500 (EST) From: ISP Support To: gclarkii@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Portmasters, where to get? In-Reply-To: <199602200533.XAA05029@main.gbdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Tons of ISPs get their Livingston stuff from Capella Networking (including us). They have EXCELLENT prices for ISPs and they are 100% in tune with what we are doing. I always deal with Paul Martinez out of the Great Lakes office and he is great to say the least. If you are interested you can call him at 810.852.5259. Cheers! -Dave Munroe, CEO Novagate Communications Corp. On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Gary Clark II wrote: > Hi, > > I'm starting a new job with an ISP here in Houston, and was wondering were is > the best place to get a portmaster? Cost? Number of Ports? > > Any info is needed.... > > > Thanks, > > Gary > > -- > Gary Clark II > gclarkii@GBData.COM > gclarkii@FreeBSD.ORG > gclarkii@NWPros.COM > From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 12:29:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07546 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from itchy.mosquito.com (itchy.mosquito.com [206.205.132.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07541 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from boot@localhost) by itchy.mosquito.com (8.6.11/8.6.12) id PAA26505; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:31:33 -0500 From: Bruce Bauman Message-Id: <199602232031.PAA26505@itchy.mosquito.com> Subject: uucp with portmaster? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:31:32 -0500 (EST) Cc: boot@itchy.mosquito.com (Bruce Bauman) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We are a small ISP who wants to set up uucp. We currently have all of our modems attached to a Livingston Portmaster. We'd like to be able to use ruucpd- a modified uucpd which can use the rlogin protocol to determine the user's identity. Does anyone have a version which compiles cleanly under FreeBSD? I found one on the net, but it's based on an old uucpd, and generates a bunch of compilation warnings. Thanks in advance. -- Bruce Bauman Mosquito Net, Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 16:53:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA25757 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA25750 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA08963; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 18:53:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 18:53:37 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Bruce Bauman cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: uucp with portmaster? In-Reply-To: <199602232031.PAA26505@itchy.mosquito.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Bruce Bauman wrote: > We are a small ISP who wants to set up uucp. We currently have all of our > modems attached to a Livingston Portmaster. We'd like to be able to use > ruucpd- a modified uucpd which can use the rlogin protocol to determine > the user's identity. I'm using a hacked up version of Livingstons radius server so my UUCP customers use the U service prefix and get logged into their UUCP account, which has /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico as the shell. The only weird part of the whole mess is their account on the FreeBSD box is 'U' so rlogin will work correctly. Of course, I could have made rlogin strip off the prefix, but its all on a separate box so I don't think it matters. > Does anyone have a version which compiles cleanly under FreeBSD? I found > one on the net, but it's based on an old uucpd, and generates a bunch of > compilation warnings. I think we're using the uucp that came with FreeBSD... Good luck. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 24 14:12:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA23044 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23035 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA00700 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:13:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:13:13 -0700 (MST) From: Stephen Fisher To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: [Last revision?]: FreeBSD server considerations.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Thanks to all of your recommendations I have put together one of my last lists of hardware to use for my FreeBSD server. As I said before I'm switching from Linux to FreeBSD =) I am looking for a mid-line robust, good server. -- Mother board: AMD 586/133 CPU w/ MB $230. Either this "almost-pentium" or an AMD/Intel 486DX4/133 with ASUS MB. It doesn't need to handle TOO much growth yet so I believe the 486 will just have to do for now ;). The [great] dealer I am thinking about buying it from [and where the prices came from] has sold two ASUS MB's lately and the users had to bring them back in to get worked on.. Hmm.. But they also have heard ASUS MBs are the best. They will be building the actual computer.. they've built some others for us too. Bus: Almost if not everything PCI. SCSI Card: Adapetc 2940 PCI, $235. SCSI Drives: Two Conner or Quantum 1.08GB drives. The 2GB seemed to be more than twice the price of the 1GB drives. $245/Each. Memory: 16Meg. I will upgrade to 32Meg shortly, when needed. Just about $400. CDROM: Toshiba 4x [SCSI]. $140. I will be using it for a bit more than just installing the OS and the 4x is about the same price as the 2x. Tape: Conner TAPESTOR 4GB External SCSI. $440. 4GB Tapes, $70/Each. 3 Tapes (daily/weekly/every third week backups) Full tower case: Standard case, 6 exposed bays, couple internals, etc.. $90 Floppy: Dinky 3.5" $29 Video: I'll probably just throw in a Trident 9660 I have. It doesn't need to run X anyway. Monitor: Some dinky monitor..:) Network: 3com PCI Combo Board. $140-$150 or so. -- This totals to approximately $2300 which is fine.. Any other recommendations or suggestions? I'll sleep on this and go ahead and buy it if there are no visible problems with what I am buying. Thanks! - Steve - Systems Manager From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 24 15:51:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA28045 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (jeff@mercury.jorsm.com [205.199.2.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28039 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA05191; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:51:42 -0600 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:51:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeff.Lynch-JORSM.Internet" To: Stephen Fisher cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Last revision?]: FreeBSD server considerations.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am looking for a mid-line robust, good server. > > -- > > Mother board: AMD 586/133 CPU w/ MB $230. Either this "almost-pentium" > or an AMD/Intel 486DX4/133 with ASUS MB. It doesn't need to handle TOO > much growth yet so I believe the 486 will just have to do for now ;). > The [great] dealer I am thinking about buying it from [and where the > prices came from] has sold two ASUS MB's lately and the users had to > bring them back in to get worked on.. Hmm.. But they also have heard ASUS > MBs are the best. They will be building the actual computer.. they've > built some others for us too. Get the ASUS, and start with a slower Pentium. The ASUS should support upwards of 180MHz so you save your initial investment. > > Bus: Almost if not everything PCI. All but your dirty video for plain text... > > SCSI Card: Adapetc 2940 PCI, $235. Get the Ultra Wide for about $65 more. If your supplier wants much more, find a new supplier. > > SCSI Drives: Two Conner or Quantum 1.08GB drives. The 2GB seemed to be > more than twice the price of the 1GB drives. $245/Each. Seagate, Seagate, Seagate... Get Wide it only costs a few dollars more. > > Memory: 16Meg. I will upgrade to 32Meg shortly, when needed. Just about > $400. I would not go with less than 32MB. If you start swapping, things really slow down. > > CDROM: Toshiba 4x [SCSI]. $140. I will be using it for a bit more than > just installing the OS and the 4x is about the same price as the 2x. > > Tape: Conner TAPESTOR 4GB External SCSI. $440. > 4GB Tapes, $70/Each. 3 Tapes (daily/weekly/every third week backups) Spend more for a 8mm or DAT and save in the long run on media. Really. > > Full tower case: Standard case, 6 exposed bays, couple internals, etc.. $90 At least 300W ========================================================================= Jeff Lynch JORSM Internet mailbot: info@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider V:(219)322-2180 http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 24 17:45:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA04135 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightfly.pip.net (nightfly.pip.net [205.133.118.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04114 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:44:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightfly.pip.net (localhost.pip.net [127.0.0.1]) by nightfly.pip.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA00358 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:42:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199602250142.UAA00358@nightfly.pip.net> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: switch from sun to freebsd news server? Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:42:29 -0500 From: Matt Emerson Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk i may be completely mad, but i have been thinking about replacing our current news server (sparc 10/40 running sunos 4.1.4, 64MB mem, 8GB spool) with a pentium running freebsd. ideally, we'd like to use an ibm pc server 320 with a raid, and 64MB. but after poking around the mailing list archives, i'm not too hopeful this will be a viable option. (i stick my tongue out at adaptec for not releasing docs on the 3985, which is just what i need.) i guess i could move the news server to solaris 2.5 and use online disksuite to do "software raid," but i'm too used to bsd systems and would probably become very sick and puke all over my keyboard if i was forced to deal with solaris for any extended time period. so, should i shut up and be happy with the ss10? or would a switch be reasonable? -matt From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 24 18:36:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA06597 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06592 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id UAA14521; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:35:24 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199602250235.UAA14521@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: switch from sun to freebsd news server? To: matt@pip.net (Matt Emerson) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:35:23 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602250142.UAA00358@nightfly.pip.net> from "Matt Emerson" at Feb 24, 96 08:42:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > i may be completely mad, but i have been thinking about replacing > our current news server (sparc 10/40 running sunos 4.1.4, 64MB mem, > 8GB spool) with a pentium running freebsd. > > ideally, we'd like to use an ibm pc server 320 with a raid, and > 64MB. but after poking around the mailing list archives, i'm > not too hopeful this will be a viable option. (i stick my > tongue out at adaptec for not releasing docs on the 3985, which > is just what i need.) > > i guess i could move the news server to solaris 2.5 and use > online disksuite to do "software raid," but i'm too used to bsd > systems and would probably become very sick and puke all over my > keyboard if i was forced to deal with solaris for any extended > time period. > > so, should i shut up and be happy with the ss10? or would a > switch be reasonable? You're not completely mad. I prefer FreeBSD for news - I manage several large servers under both Solaris and FreeBSD, and I definitely feel that the FreeBSD boxes are better performers. Depending on what your usage of the machine is, I would recommend various configurations. I'm not quite clear on what the importance of a RAID subsystem would be, but FreeBSD does support disk concatenation and striping in software which gives you many of the same performance benefits. In my opinion a P100 or P133 will absolutely outperform a SS10/40 (particularly the non-cached /40's). The AHA-3940 is a really sweet controller and I recall someone saying it would not be hard to support the AHA-3985 if support for the RAID features was _not_ an issue. Seeing as how that is a sweet looking controller... :-) I just wish I could convince the folks who own the Solaris news server I manage to switch to Intel and FreeBSD :-( ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 24 18:58:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA07544 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:58:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipebomb.noc.best.net (dns2.noc.best.net [206.86.8.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA07523 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from geli.clusternet (rcarter.vip.best.com [204.156.137.2]) by pipebomb.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA21017; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:56:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by geli.clusternet (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA19039; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:57:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250257.SAA19039@geli.clusternet> X-Authentication-Warning: geli.clusternet: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Joe Greco cc: matt@pip.net (Matt Emerson), freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switch from sun to freebsd news server? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:35:23 CST." <199602250235.UAA14521@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:57:05 -0800 From: "Russell L. Carter" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > ideally, we'd like to use an ibm pc server 320 with a raid, and > > 64MB. but after poking around the mailing list archives, i'm > > not too hopeful this will be a viable option. (i stick my > > tongue out at adaptec for not releasing docs on the 3985, which > > is just what i need.) > > > > i guess i could move the news server to solaris 2.5 and use > > online disksuite to do "software raid," but i'm too used to bsd Why not use one of the single ID RAID systems, like those from BoxHill Systems Co (info@boxhill.com) or UniSolution (800-552-4uni)? I don't have experience with either, or personal interest, they're just the first two I have started to look into for use with FreeBSD. Russell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net > Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 >