From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 3 17:46:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25017 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from tempest.garply.com (root@max7-132.HiWAAY.net [206.104.17.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25012 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.garply.com (matt@localhost.garply.com [127.0.0.1]) by tempest.garply.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00507 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 19:46:26 -0600 Message-Id: <199603040146.TAA00507@tempest.garply.com> X-Authentication-Warning: tempest.garply.com: Host localhost.garply.com didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "Matt Midboe" Subject: web-admin stuff Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 19:46:25 -0600 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've got a little bit more done on the web-admin tools and have a lot more of the DNS stuff done. All of the user side stuff should be working and it would be nice people tried it and told me what seemed to be broken or what functionality should be added. On the DNS side of things it can handle all the zone modification except reload named. The code for adding new stuff to the named.boot has not been taken care of yet. I've also started on a program to attempt to autoconfigure everything. If you want to take a look at it then you can get it from: ftp://ftp.garply.com/users/matt/web-admin.tar.gz It's totally untested, it worked for me repeatedly but is still missing a lot of functionality. Mostly what I would like to know is if anyone has suggestions on more functionality to add the current sections, besides the obvious things that I've already got stubs for. Matt matt@garply.com From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 4 01:51:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA17016 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.gateway.net.hk (john@gateway.hk.linkage.net [202.76.7.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17008 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from john@localhost) by gate.gateway.net.hk (8.7.4/8.6.12) id RAA06017; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:48:15 +0800 (HKT) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:48:15 +0800 (HKT) From: John Beukema To: Michael Dillon cc: invalid opcode , "Jason T. Nelson" , James King , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting a New ISP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Michael Dillon wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, invalid opcode wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Jason T. Nelson wrote: > > > > > two machines with Linux ;) We also have a machine dedicated to news > > > carrying all news except most of alt.* (mainly to keep our hands from > > > getting slapped with reference to the CDA and OCAF); it purrs along very > > > Jason T. Nelson > > > > I highly recommend you DO NOT do that. > > Which state are you registered at the bar? > > > If you want to retain your common > > carrier status and be protected by the law from CDA and OCAF, etc issues, > > than you better include everything, if you don't, you become a manager of > > information and are no longer a common carrier. > > Since when do ISP's have common carrier status? I expect an answer to my > question above because I intend to report your conduct to your state bar > association and have you disbarred. This is wholly inappropriate language and attitude for this list Dillon. Knock it off jbeukema > > > Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 > Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 > http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com > > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 4 13:28:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29103 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:28:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29018 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michael@localhost) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id NAA18287; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:37:22 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:37:16 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon X-Sender: michael@okjunc.junction.net To: iap@vma.cc.nd.edu cc: linuxisp@lightning.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: AT&T's new FREE Internet service Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Two excerpts from a rant about UNLIMITED sevice on the Portmaster list. In particular, think about that second quote.... >And guess what else happens? Suddenly, you have open modems, and your >customers can get through without waiting for 30 minutes of busy signals. >And lo and behold! Your spending less of your time trying to "catch" >people and can work to improve your system in other productive ways. >BTW, if AT&T is a free call, you can bet I'll be on there 24/7. Cheaper >than tying up my own modems. hehe How many ISP's will do the same? How many Internet junkies will also be on those lines? From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 4 22:28:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA12809 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA12802 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tpatel@localhost) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA13868 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 00:33:53 GMT From: Tushar Patel Message-Id: <199603050033.AAA13868@ecpi.com> Subject: Win95 ppp, Freebsd (small problem) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 00:33:53 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have managed to run script on win95 to communicate to FreeBSD box. Every time it connects to frebsd box I get following error message in the ppp.log file Unknown protocol 0x802b has anybody seen this? I am able to login into the FreeBSD box every time but win95 and FreeBSD box is not able communicate the PPP protocol every time. It appears to be random. Do I need to enable PAP or CHAP Authentication? Any suggestions? Thanks, Tushar From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 4 22:55:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA17953 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17935 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tpatel@localhost) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA14475; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 01:00:07 GMT From: Tushar Patel Message-Id: <199603050100.BAA14475@ecpi.com> Subject: WIN95 ppp problem. To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 01:00:07 +0000 () Cc: tpatel@ecpi.com (Tushar Patel) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having problem in getting consistant ppp connection through win95 into freebsd box. ppp.log file does not indicate anything,infact it always say the paket mode is enabled, but the win95 sometime gets stuck in verifying user name and the password. I am using dial-in script to enter the user name and the password and then I enter "ppp" to start the ppp process on the freebsd side. Note that the user gets logged in every time and the ppp.log file indicate paket mode enabled. Has nayone come accross this problem? Any suggestion? Do I need to enable the PAP or CHAP Authentication? Please Help. Thanks, Tushar From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 04:08:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA23148 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 04:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from marikit.iphil.net (marikit.iphil.net [203.176.0.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA23132 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 04:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from map@localhost) by marikit.iphil.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) id UAA31074 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:07:41 +0800 From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" Message-Id: <199603051207.UAA31074@marikit.iphil.net> Subject: Comm program needed To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:07:41 +0800 (GMT+0800) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Tomorrow I'll be configuring an ISP client site. I have the FreeBSD box, a Livingston PM 2E and a Cisco 2501. Right now I'm in the comfort of my office and can use the serial ports of Windows machines to configure the two other boxes. But, tomorrow, I will not have that luxury. If the Ethernet LAN does not go up right away, what program can I use on FreeBSD to give me a terminal program and configure the other boxes? Or, what if I have to dial out to my site? Or something I can use to handle serial ports that are dedicated to the two in case the LAN has problems for some reason? Any suggestions? Thanks! -- miguel a.l. paraz -- map@iphil.net -- http://www.iphil.net/user/map/ iphil communications, makati city, philippines From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 05:07:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA25013 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 05:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from iceonline.com (root@ns.iceonline.com [204.191.208.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA25000 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 05:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from edmbbs.iceonline.com by iceonline.com with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttwKc-001ZMGC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 04:59 PST Received: by edmbbs.iceonline.com (UUPM-1.51) id D8391Tc Tue, Mar 05, 1996 05:02:56 EST From: sreid@edmbbs.iceonline.com Message-Id: <9603050502.D8391Tc@edmbbs.iceonline.com> X-Mailer: UUPlus Mail 1.51 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: named/sendmail problem: "MX points back..." Organization: EDMBBS Marketing Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 05:02:55 EST Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This is not a FreeBSD-specific question, but other than that I think I have the right mailing list... I'm trying to configure DNS for our site, which will soon be connected to the internet. I have named.hosts set up so that access to edmnet.com connects to kirk.edmnet.com. I've set this up as shown in RFC-1912, with the two 'A' records pointing to the same IP address. I also have kirk.edmnet.com set up as primary MX for the domain. The problem is, when I try to send mail to user@edmnet.com, sendmail complains that "MX record for edmnet.com. points back to kirk.edmnet.com" and the mail bounces. I don't know if this is a problem with DNS or sendmail. I can't see anything wrong with the named.hosts file, and the sendmail.cf file is the default that comes with FreeBSD. RFC-1912 mentions a "Cw" flag for sendmail, but I can't find enough documentation on this option to determine exactly what it does, and if/how it can fix the problem. This is a fairly basic setup, but I can't find any info on this problem... I'd appreciate any help I can get. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 07:42:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA02029 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from boulder.earthnet.net (root@boulder.earthnet.net [199.45.146.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA02023 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from tanka (slip7.earthnet.net [199.45.146.107]) by boulder.earthnet.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA14650; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:42:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199603051542.IAA14650@boulder.earthnet.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Troy Cobb" Organization: Solutions Consulting To: sreid@edmbbs.iceonline.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:45:46 -700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: named/sendmail problem: "MX points back..." Reply-to: troy@solve.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > This is not a FreeBSD-specific question, but other than that I think I > have the right mailing list... > > I'm trying to configure DNS for our site, which will soon be connected > to the internet. I have named.hosts set up so that access to edmnet.com > connects to kirk.edmnet.com. I've set this up as shown in RFC-1912, with > the two 'A' records pointing to the same IP address. I also have > kirk.edmnet.com set up as primary MX for the domain. > > The problem is, when I try to send mail to user@edmnet.com, sendmail > complains that "MX record for edmnet.com. points back to kirk.edmnet.com" > and the mail bounces. > > I don't know if this is a problem with DNS or sendmail. I can't see > anything wrong with the named.hosts file, and the sendmail.cf file is > the default that comes with FreeBSD. RFC-1912 mentions a "Cw" flag for > sendmail, but I can't find enough documentation on this option to > determine exactly what it does, and if/how it can fix the problem. > > This is a fairly basic setup, but I can't find any info on this > problem... I'd appreciate any help I can get. The ORA "Bat" Book (Sendmail) should help you there. [in clearer speak, get: sendmail O'Reilly & Associates, Inc - publisher] - Troy From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 08:14:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA04270 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04265 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA23538; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:12:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:12:25 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199603051612.JAA23538@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Tushar Patel Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WIN95 ppp problem. In-Reply-To: <199603050100.BAA14475@ecpi.com> References: <199603050100.BAA14475@ecpi.com> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I am having problem in getting consistant ppp connection through > win95 into freebsd box. > > ppp.log file does not indicate anything,infact it always say the > paket mode is enabled, but the win95 sometime gets > stuck in verifying user name and the password. Is flow control setup correctly on both ends? Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 08:15:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA04338 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04278 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA23541; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:13:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:13:30 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199603051613.JAA23541@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Tushar Patel Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Win95 ppp, Freebsd (small problem) In-Reply-To: <199603050033.AAA13868@ecpi.com> References: <199603050033.AAA13868@ecpi.com> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have managed to run script on win95 to communicate to FreeBSD box. > > Every time it connects to frebsd box I get following error message > in the ppp.log file > > Unknown protocol 0x802b > > has anybody seen this? Yep, this is a known bug in M$'s PPP implementaion. Ignore the error and complain to Microsoft to have it follow 'accepted' standards and not create it's own. Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 09:00:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA08534 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (jeff@mercury.jorsm.com [205.199.2.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08525 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:00:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA07641; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:00:49 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:00:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeff.Lynch-JORSM.Internet" To: sreid@edmbbs.iceonline.com cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named/sendmail problem: "MX points back..." In-Reply-To: <9603050502.D8391Tc@edmbbs.iceonline.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Mar 1996 sreid@edmbbs.iceonline.com wrote: > The problem is, when I try to send mail to user@edmnet.com, sendmail > complains that "MX record for edmnet.com. points back to kirk.edmnet.com" > and the mail bounces. > > I don't know if this is a problem with DNS or sendmail. I can't see > anything wrong with the named.hosts file, and the sendmail.cf file is > the default that comes with FreeBSD. RFC-1912 mentions a "Cw" flag for > sendmail, but I can't find enough documentation on this option to > determine exactly what it does, and if/how it can fix the problem. In sendmail.cf put, Cw edmnet.com kirk.edmnet.com and kill -HUP the sendmail process id. ========================================================================= Jeff Lynch JORSM Internet mailbot: info@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider V:(219)322-2180 http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 09:26:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA09672 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09667 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:26:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA05168; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:26:30 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603051726.JAA05168@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Comm program needed To: map@iphil.net (Miguel A.L. Paraz) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:26:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603051207.UAA31074@marikit.iphil.net> from "Miguel A.L. Paraz" at Mar 5, 96 08:07:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > Tomorrow I'll be configuring an ISP client site. > I have the FreeBSD box, a Livingston PM 2E and a Cisco 2501. > Right now I'm in the comfort of my office and can use the > serial ports of Windows machines to configure the two other > boxes. > > But, tomorrow, I will not have that luxury. If the Ethernet LAN > does not go up right away, what program can I use on FreeBSD > to give me a terminal program and configure the other boxes? > Or, what if I have to dial out to my site? Or something I > can use to handle serial ports that are dedicated to the > two in case the LAN has problems for some reason? > > Any suggestions? Thanks! man tip You'll need to setup /etc/remote, something like this in the end of it is what I do when I need an emergency terminal: xx:dv=/dev/cuaa1:br#9600 Then a ``tip xx'' should get you a terminal session on the second serial port. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 09:45:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA10856 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from kilgour.nething.com (kilgour.nething.com [204.253.210.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10851 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy.nething.com (randy.nething.com [204.253.210.83]) by kilgour.nething.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA27251; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:42:07 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:42:07 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960305114234.2547a5e8@nething.com> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sreid@edmbbs.iceonline.com, isp@freebsd.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: Re: named/sendmail problem: "MX points back..." Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >The problem is, when I try to send mail to user@edmnet.com, sendmail >complains that "MX record for edmnet.com. points back to kirk.edmnet.com" >and the mail bounces. > >I don't know if this is a problem with DNS or sendmail. I can't see >anything wrong with the named.hosts file, and the sendmail.cf file is >the default that comes with FreeBSD. RFC-1912 mentions a "Cw" flag for >sendmail, but I can't find enough documentation on this option to >determine exactly what it does, and if/how it can fix the problem. Cw determines what hosts are handled locally by the sendmail process. If it is not in the Cw then sendmail tries to hand off to someone else (unfortunately, itself...) and after the requisite number of bounces, you get the message. To cure, put: Cwlocalhost Cwkirk.edmnet.com Cwedmnet.com in your sendmail.cf Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm caught in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 10:48:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA14556 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumter.awod.com (awod.com [198.81.225.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14551 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ken (tsunami.awod.com [198.81.225.31]) by sumter.awod.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA03216; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:48:30 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960305184834.0066e878@awod.com> X-Sender: klam@awod.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 13:48:34 -0500 To: Nate Williams From: Ken Lam Subject: Re: Win95 ppp, Freebsd (small problem) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 09:13 AM 3/5/96 -0700, you wrote: >> I have managed to run script on win95 to communicate to FreeBSD box. >> >> Every time it connects to frebsd box I get following error message >> in the ppp.log file >> >> Unknown protocol 0x802b >> >> has anybody seen this? > >Yep, this is a known bug in M$'s PPP implementaion. Ignore the error >and complain to Microsoft to have it follow 'accepted' standards and not >create it's own. Perhaps,the PPP link is setup for NetBEUI? I don't believe that is the IPX. FreeBSD wouldn't understand the IPX or NetBEUI link negotiations and would of course ignore them. Should be no harm. -Ken From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 10:56:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA15055 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15046 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA24012; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:59:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:59:04 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199603051859.LAA24012@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Ken Lam Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Win95 ppp, Freebsd (small problem) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4b11.32.19960305184834.0066e878@awod.com> References: <1.5.4b11.32.19960305184834.0066e878@awod.com> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >> Unknown protocol 0x802b > >> > >Yep, this is a known bug in M$'s PPP implementaion. Ignore the error > >and complain to Microsoft to have it follow 'accepted' standards and not > >create it's own. > > Perhaps,the PPP link is setup for NetBEUI? I don't believe that > is the IPX. FreeBSD wouldn't understand the IPX or NetBEUI link > negotiations and would of course ignore them. Should be no harm. Right, you can ignore it. But, M$ asked the IETF to do modifications on the PPP setup and was turned down with valid reasons. They ignored it and implemented it anyway rather than doing what was suggested and moving it to a different part of the handshake. Sigh.. NIH strikes again... Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 13:19:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA25359 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25354 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA16939; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:28:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:18:01 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon To: Nate Williams cc: Ken Lam , Nate Williams , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Win95 ppp, Freebsd (small problem) In-Reply-To: <199603051859.LAA24012@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > Right, you can ignore it. But, M$ asked the IETF to do modifications on > the PPP setup and was turned down with valid reasons. They ignored it > and implemented it anyway rather than doing what was suggested and > moving it to a different part of the handshake. > > Sigh.. NIH strikes again... Hey, guess what! Microsoft just invented IP tunneling! http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/news/0304/o05amsft.html They never learn, do they? Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 15:23:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05821 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05813 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from cod.connix.com (cod.connix.com [205.246.96.249]) by comet.connix.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA05836; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:23:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:23:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199603052323.SAA05836@comet.connix.com> X-Sender: cod@connix.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randy Berndt From: "C. O'Donnell" Subject: Re: named/sendmail problem: "MX points back..." Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 11:42 AM 3/5/96 -0600, Randy Berndt wrote:> >Cwlocalhost >Cwkirk.edmnet.com >Cwedmnet.com Aren't the first two already taken care of by sendmail? I think you only need the last one: Cwedmnet.com Chuck From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 5 20:00:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA27606 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.execpc.com (mail.execpc.com [169.207.16.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27600 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from marlboro (marlboro@grub.execpc.com [204.95.201.18]) by mail.execpc.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA22177 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:00:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <313D0F8F.5112@execpc.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 22:07:43 -0600 From: Marlboro X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk subscribe -- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 6 08:23:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA01551 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01543 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA26011 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 10:22:46 -0600 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 6 Mar 96 10:22 CST Received: by mars.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 6 Mar 96 10:22 CST Message-Id: From: sigma@mcs.com (Kevin Martin) Subject: Running BSDI binaries To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 10:22:41 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: sigma@pair.com Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm happily running FreeBSD 2.1.0R at http://www.pair.com/, with no complaints (well, except running out of file handles a couple of times, and the installation program being a bit uncooperative with, for example, installing via FTP). Recently, I've had a couple of customers who want to run commercial BSDI binaries. I know there's BSDI support in FreeBSD somewhere, but it's not part of the normal release, am I right? Where can I find the appropriate library or module or patch or whatever I need? Thanks, Kevin Martin sigma@pair.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 6 19:41:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA17269 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from neon.nwpros.com (neon.nwpros.com [205.229.128.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17258 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:41:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by neon.nwpros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA05472 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:43:05 -0600 From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199603070343.VAA05472@neon.nwpros.com> Subject: Ascend 400 & PRI To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:43:04 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, We're in the process of getting an PRI installed here and I am looking for information on the best way to hook this up to my local ethernet. I've got all FreeBSD machines here and a Cisco 2501 router. Any ideas on which product? Ascend or Combinet? Cheap is good:) Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | Director of Operations | Good service at gclarkii@Neon.NWPros.COM | Network Pros, Inc. | low rates!! FreeBSD FAQ at ftp.FreeBSD.ORG in ~pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 7 03:02:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA27885 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA27877 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA15361; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:08:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199603071108.DAA15361@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Ascend 400 & PRI To: gclarkii@neon.nwpros.com (Gary Clark II) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:08:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian Litzinger" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603070343.VAA05472@neon.nwpros.com> from "Gary Clark II" at Mar 6, 96 09:43:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > We're in the process of getting an PRI installed here and I am looking > for information on the best way to hook this up to my local ethernet. > I've got all FreeBSD machines here and a Cisco 2501 router. > Any ideas on which product? Ascend or Combinet? > Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | Director of Operations | Good service at (SHORT FORM) Ascend pipeline 400s: 2B MLPPP session could only obtain 75% of the expected throughput. Technical support is very poor, if you can actually get through to them. Units are not field upgradable. Combinet Everywhere 900: Do not support RADIUS or any other "standard" remote user database facility. Net Express 5000: Wonderful, Wonderful. Not that expensive either. (LONG FORM) With regard to Ascend (Combinet & Net Express are later): I ordered 2 Ascend pipeline 400s for connection to two PRIs. The pipelines sure were pretty looking and had a nice VT100 configuration manager. Regretably they didn't actually work very well. The first time I contacted customer support I was on hold for 45 minutes after which I gave up. (the actual problem is described below) Other attempts to contact technical support at ascend yielded similar results. I then went through the sales channel and got the Technical Support Manager and told him of my misfortunate. His response, not wanting to address the problem with the Ascends, was that he had records that showed the average call was answered in 5 minutes. This in itself surprised me but he seemed proud of it. I asked him what the worst case wait was. Apparently, the nice people who developed the phone system they use at Ascend were nice enough to shield the poor managers at Ascend from information like the worst case. And the TS manager replied that his reports didn't include that information, but that it was no where near 45 minutes. (apparently I was lying to him) And believe it or not I still didn't get through to a TS person. I went back to our sales person and announced if I didn't get through to TS the units were going back. Shortly thereafter I was talking to someone from Ascend technical support. I explained the trouble with the units and they suggested I field upgrade them to some experimental release of the firmware. A fiasco ensued with trying to get them to actually put the software on their ftp site but it did eventually happen. Well, the uploads of the firmware failed, and the units went into a loop wanting to upload the firmware. I tried everything they recommended but the units refused to start working. I even hooked up an RS232alyzer and watched every packet go acknowledged correctly, but in the end, it was still in upload mode. I eventually tried uploading the real release but it wouldn't upload either. During my trials and tribulations in trying to upload the firmware technical support made a statement that made no sense. I queried the TS person on the statement and it was clear he didn't know what he was talking about. Finally Ascend said to send the units back to the factory and they would upgrade the firmware. I told them that field upgradability was an important feature and if I send the units back to the factory it would mean that Pipeline 400s weren't field upgradable. In the end, it was determined that contrary to their literature the Pipeline 400s that I had were NOT field upgradable. I returned the units and got a refund. The problem, by the way, was one of performance. The Pipeline 400s were unable to perform adequately on MLPPP 2B calls. That is they were only able to attain 75% of the expected throughput. 100% throughput was obtained via a NetExpress 5000 in the same setup. Regarding Combinet: I bought 2 Combinet Everywhere 900s. As I do with all products I opened the box they came in and took out the documentation and read it all. (I know its hard to believe, but I really do). When I finished with the manual it was clear that Combinet didn't support RADIUS or any of the other "standard" remote user database. They did have some proprietary scheme which required an machine running Work Group for Windows to run the software and maintain the database. I contacted technical support at Combinet to confirm that I understood the scheme. No troubles getting through and yes there stuff really did work that way. Well, I wrapped the manuals back up and put them back into the box and returned the units. (note that I never took the combinets out of the box. To this day I don't know that they look like). In any case, a few weeks later I got a bill for $600 to replace the broken bezel on one the units. I explained my story, and eventually they gave up on the $600. Regarding Net Express: I bought an NE5000 with 2 PRI interfaces. (at the time an NE5000 could handle 2 PRIs itself, I believe a single NE5000 now handles 4) Nex Express was willing to match the prices offered to my by Ascend and Combinet, so eventhough NE equipment looks horrendously priced in their literature there solution was no more expensive than Ascend or Combinet after negiotiating with them. And boy what a difference in support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They insisted on sending an FSE (field service engineer) out to my site to give my an overview of the units operationn and to help me set it up. At first I figured that meant the thing was impossible to manage. But after the course it was clear that the system was reasonably straight forward. Ascend's menuing system is nicer, but the NE actually works well. After getting the unit setup things went well, and I had no trouble getting through to NE technical support when I needed to. In fact, I don't believe I have ever been put on hold by them. A few weeks later I did a field upgrade of the unit to the next release of the firmware. It took about 5 minutes and I didn't even have to re-enter my config info. The whole upgrade went hitch free. We started having problems with customers using 3COMs Impact's having their 2B channel MLPPP sessions die under heavy loads. NE took about 3 weeks and was able to determine that the problem was a bug in the 3COM firmware (which is still there in 2.02beta). 3COM acknowledged the bug, and NE kept us appraised of the situation as they worked on it, including a nice report describing the problem. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 7 05:06:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA06238 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from iceonline.com (root@ns.iceonline.com [204.191.208.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA06231 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from edmbbs.iceonline.com by iceonline.com with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tufH1-001Z6eC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 04:58 PST Received: by edmbbs.iceonline.com (UUPM-1.51) id D3302Bn Thu, Mar 07, 1996 05:02:08 EST From: sreid@edmbbs.iceonline.com Message-Id: <9603070502.D3302Bn@edmbbs.iceonline.com> X-Mailer: UUPlus Mail 1.51 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named/sendmail problem: "MX points back..." Organization: EDMBBS Marketing Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 05:02:08 EST Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk CO>It's hard to tell exactly without more info... Okay, I'll include the named.hosts file this time. CO>Cwedmnet.com CO>Then sendmail will know that edmnet.com is local and choose local delivery. CO>But I'm not sure this will fix the whole problem, because your error message CO>is a different one than I have seen. Are you using named? That's kinda what I thought, but I still can't get it to work... Sometimes (depending on how I've altered the configurations) it complains about the "MX record for edmnet.com. points back to kirk.edmnet.com" and sometimes there is another error which is "mail loops back to kirk.edmnet.com" or something like that, basicly the same as I was getting before except without mention of the MX record. Sorry I don't remember it exactly, I've been chipping away at this problem for hours and my brain is kinda fried. I think I had this working before, except I was making edmnet.com a CNAME for kirk.edmnet.com, which is incorrect according to RFC-1912, "Common DNS Operational and Configuration Errors". My sendmail.cf file is the default except for the new Cw lines... Cwlocalhost Cwkirk.edmnet.com. Cwedmnet.com. I suppose I should add a Cw line for every host that Kirk handles mail for, but I don't think that'll make much difference right now. My named.hosts file is below. I used the example in ORA's "TCP/IP Network Administration" as a template, and added the A record for edmnet.com based on what was shown in RFC-1912. ; ; named.hosts file - primary DNS for edmnet.com ; ; These IP addresses are temporary, until we're assigned real ; numbers. ; @ IN SOA kirk.edmnet.com. root.kirk.edmnet.com. ( 1996030605; Serial 3600 ; Refresh 1200 ; Retry 1209600 ; Expire 172800 ); Minimum ; edmnet.com alone points to Kirk. IN A 192.168.100.2 ; nameservers and mail servers IN NS kirk.edmnet.com. IN NS spock.edmnet.com. IN MX 10 kirk.edmnet.com. IN MX 20 spock.edmnet.com. localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 ; EDMNET hosts kirk IN A 192.168.100.2 IN MX 5 kirk.edmnet.com. www IN CNAME kirk.edmnet.com. spock IN A 192.168.100.3 IN MX 5 spock.edmnet.com. edmrouter IN A 192.168.100.1 IN MX 5 kirk.edmnet.com. ; ----- End of named.hosts ----- You'll notice I have spock set up as secondary DNS and mail... I was using spock to send mail to edmnet.com to test the setup, but I'm pretty sure the problem is not with spock... I always kill -HUP spock's named *after* I kill -HUP kirk's named when changing the configuration. I also kill -HUP kirk's sendmail process when I change the sendmail.cf file. This is my first attempt at setting up DNS and mail, so I don't have enough experience to spot most errors... The problem is probably a really simple one that I just don't know about. Thank you all for your help so far... I hadn't expected such a large response from such a low-volume mailing list. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 7 13:33:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA10866 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from everest.pinn.net (everest.pinn.net [198.252.201.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10859 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (emerson@localhost) by everest.pinn.net (8.6.12/8.6.4) id QAA07208; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:33:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:33:00 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Slow Network Speeds. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a little problem. I am trying to setup a FreeBSD server within my school network to handle all the mail and such. It is connected, but I have extremly slow speeds over the network. The machine is a P5-75 w/16MB using a 3com 509 (I think, not sure of the model) over a UTP using Cat-5 wire and Cabletron TPRMIM-22 card. I am getting an adverage ping responce time of 500ms from and to the server. I am utterly confused. It is not running as a router, as far as I can tell, nor a gateway. It is neither the DNS. I need to get FreeBSD up and fully functional or the powers that be will make me goto linux (college defunt standard for un*x boxes). Any help would be nice. Stefan Molnar ---------8<------------------ emerson@pinn.net Very Silly Lynx Enhanced Page http://www.pinn.net/~emerson Stefan Molnar Team OS/2 : FreeBSD : Plan9 Always Eccentric --------->8------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 7 18:21:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27123 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:21:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27110 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA32518; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:30:30 -0800 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:19:59 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon To: Stefan Molnar cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slow Network Speeds. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Stefan Molnar wrote: > Hello, I have a little problem. I am trying to setup a FreeBSD > server within my school network to handle all the mail and such. > It is connected, but I have extremly slow speeds over the network. > The machine is a P5-75 w/16MB using a 3com 509 (I think, not sure > of the model) over a UTP using Cat-5 wire and Cabletron TPRMIM-22 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What is this thing? > card. I am getting an adverage ping responce time of 500ms from > and to the server. If this is on the Ethernet, then your Ethernet segment is utterly broken. Start looking for bad equipment there. I get 150ms ping times from my FreeBSD box through a 33.6kbps PPP modem connection and around 2ms ping times on the Ethernet segment. Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 7 19:43:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA05235 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from aries.interspace.com.au (steve@aries.interspace.com.au [203.22.192.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05217 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by aries.interspace.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA13162; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:43:31 +1100 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:43:31 +1100 (EST) From: Steve Gibson To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Kerberos and NIS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At this site, we have two host machines. One runs FreeBSD 2.1.0, and the other runs Linux 1.2.13. The FreeBSD acts as a kerberos host for our terminal servers. We are using eBones for kerberos, due to US export restrictions etc. eBones is, as far as I know, not available for Linux. The Linux machine is for shell accounts and mail. Now, to my question. Can NIS be set up to use the Kerberos database for password information? At the moment, users have two passwords. One for dialing in, and then one for mail and shell etc., so there is no easy way for the users to change their dialin passwords(They don't have accounts on the kerberos host). All I want to do is use the kerberos password file as this networks central password file. Also, speaking of kerberos, is there a way to remove a user from the kerberos database? Interspace Australia Pty Ltd Steve Gibson - System Administrator From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 8 02:48:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA28349 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28337 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA08992 for isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:05:25 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199603081105.GAA08992@hda.com> Subject: Web page hosting only? To: isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:05:24 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Are any of you doing web page hosting and business access only versus providing dial in access to the windows wielding hordes? Does that limited service seem worth providing? -- *** March 8, 1996: Our ISP is having problems. *** *** "hda.com" connectivity is now intermittent to nonexistent *** Peter Dufault Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 8 03:57:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA05549 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from marikit.iphil.net (map@marikit.iphil.net [203.176.0.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA05539 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from map@localhost) by marikit.iphil.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) id TAA14345 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 19:56:53 +0800 From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" Message-Id: <199603081156.TAA14345@marikit.iphil.net> Subject: dialin giving me garbage To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 19:56:52 +0800 (GMT+0800) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello, Thanks again to those who advised me to use "cu -l" to configure a serial port. I appreciate it. The FreeBSD machine, Portmaster and Cisco are all running fine now. Now, I'm trying to set up a direct dialin to FreeBSD for administration purposes. I tried the getty example in the Handbook, as well as mgetty which I'm running fine under Linux. In both cases, after the modem answers, the CONNECT line comes out fine. But, the login prompt (I think), and whatever I type in, comes out as if the speed, parity and stop bits do not match -- the characters come out strangely. However, the settings on both end are 8N1. Any hints? Both ends are using Courier V.34 modems. thanks, -- miguel a.l. paraz -- map@iphil.net -- http://www.iphil.net/user/map/ iphil communications, makati city, philippines From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 8 08:01:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA26290 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA26285 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA05542; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:04:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:04:29 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199603081604.JAA05542@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dialin giving me garbage In-Reply-To: <199603081156.TAA14345@marikit.iphil.net> References: <199603081156.TAA14345@marikit.iphil.net> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Now, I'm trying to set up a direct dialin to FreeBSD for > administration purposes. I tried the getty example in the > Handbook, as well as mgetty which I'm running fine under Linux. > In both cases, after the modem answers, the CONNECT line > comes out fine. > > But, the login prompt (I think), and whatever I type in, comes out as > if the speed, parity and stop bits do not match -- the characters > come out strangely. However, the settings on both end are 8N1. What about the speeds? Is the modem speed the same as the speed you are using with getty? (I suspect not) Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 8 10:37:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA04129 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04124 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from solar.os.com (root@solar.os.com [199.232.136.65]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA28836 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:37:48 -0800 Received: from jupiter (jupiter.os.com [199.232.136.66]) by solar.os.com (8.7/8.7.0) with SMTP id NAA02423; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:52:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199603081852.NAA02423@solar.os.com> X-Sender: craigs@solar X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 13:35:39 -0500 To: Stefan Molnar From: craigs@os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Subject: Re: Slow Network Speeds. Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >Hello, I have a little problem. I am trying to setup a FreeBSD >server within my school network to handle all the mail and such. >It is connected, but I have extremly slow speeds over the network. Do a traceroute to various sites to determine if a router or gateway somewhere is goofing you up. If not, look at an interrrupt conflict with the 509. BTW: That card is real buggy on FreeBSD. Get an SMC PCI card. On my net, I see ping returns on 1.8 to 2.3 ms. Also, ping the ip address directly. If it works with the ip address, it's IN-ADDR.ARPA that's messing you up. -Craig =================================================================== Orbit Internet Email: craigs@os.com 400 Grove Street Phone: (508) 753-8776 Worcester, MA 01605 http://www.os.com/ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 8 11:16:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06676 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06640 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA27908 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:52:42 -0800 Received: from tahoma.cwu.edu (skynyrd@tahoma.cwu.edu [198.104.67.25]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA01031; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:50:44 -0800 Received: (from skynyrd@localhost) by tahoma.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) id JAA24823; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:50:42 -0800 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:50:40 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Michael Dillon cc: Stefan Molnar , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slow Network Speeds. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I had a similar experience once, when in a moment of great compulsiveness, I connected an HP 10baseT hub to the station port of a transceiver fanout (eg. DELNI) with a tp/AUI adapter. At the time I was using an NE2000 clone on my FreeBSD machine. The FreeBSD machine could interact fine with other hosts on the hub, but anything that had to go through the transceiver fanout would run slowly as you describe. I knew that this topology was an abomination so I didn't spend too much time figuring out exactly what was wrong, but it seemed to behave as though carrier sensing wasn't working properly (as if I'd created a copper ethernet of length 5km :(. Some other hosts fared better than the FreeBSD machine but I didn't hold it against FreeBSD because my ethernet was broken. Wiring everything through the 10baseT hub and eliminating the transceiver fanout solved the problem. Never start a project you don't have the appropriate parts to finish ;) -Chris On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Michael Dillon wrote: > On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Stefan Molnar wrote: > > > Hello, I have a little problem. I am trying to setup a FreeBSD > > server within my school network to handle all the mail and such. > > It is connected, but I have extremly slow speeds over the network. > > The machine is a P5-75 w/16MB using a 3com 509 (I think, not sure > > of the model) over a UTP using Cat-5 wire and Cabletron TPRMIM-22 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > What is this thing? > > > card. I am getting an adverage ping responce time of 500ms from > > and to the server. > > If this is on the Ethernet, then your Ethernet segment is utterly broken. > Start looking for bad equipment there. I get 150ms ping times from my > FreeBSD box through a 33.6kbps PPP modem connection and around 2ms ping > times on the Ethernet segment. > > > Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 > Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 > http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com > From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 8 22:53:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA27893 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:53:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from imssys.imssys.com ([199.171.16.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA27888 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from imssys by imssys.imssys.com ; 9 MAR 96 01:52:51 EDT Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 01:52:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark F. Patterson" X-Sender: mpatters@imssys To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: slow network response Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello all, I'm just getting started as a small ISP (I hear ya... 'oh no another newbie'). Anyway... I seem to be having (I assume) some difficulty with my network. Here's why I think so: If I ping the main server (running FreeBSD 2.1) from another host on an outside network, the round trip time seems to be way-high (900-999ms). If I try to ping the main-server from another host, a Linux-box, on the local network, the times still appear to be high (700-800ms). Now here's what's intersting, any pings to or from Linux box, inside or outside the local network (except for the main-server) appear to be rather speedy (inside 0.1-0.8ms, outside 60-80.0ms ranges). Doing most anything from the main-server across the network seems awful _slow_. I have a 56k-FR connection, the main-server is FreeBSD2.1 with no load on it; the Linux-box on the local network is serving as the gateway. Any ideas? Could my routing be hosed, although I can reach other remote sites? Any help, or direction pointing would be appreciated. Thanks! -Mark From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 8 23:59:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA00822 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00817 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA09747; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:59:08 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603090759.XAA09747@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: slow network response To: mpatters@imssys.imssys.com (Mark F. Patterson) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:59:08 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Mark F. Patterson" at Mar 9, 96 01:52:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Hello all, > > I'm just getting started as a small ISP (I hear ya... 'oh no another newbie'). > Anyway... > > I seem to be having (I assume) some difficulty with my network. Here's > why I think so: > > If I ping the main server (running FreeBSD 2.1) from another host on an > outside network, the round trip time seems to be way-high (900-999ms). > If I try to ping the main-server from another host, a Linux-box, on the > local network, the times still appear to be high (700-800ms). > > Now here's what's intersting, any pings to or from Linux box, inside or > outside the local network (except for the main-server) appear to be rather > speedy (inside 0.1-0.8ms, outside 60-80.0ms ranges). Doing most anything from > the main-server across the network seems awful _slow_. > > I have a 56k-FR connection, the main-server is FreeBSD2.1 with no load on it; > the Linux-box on the local network is serving as the gateway. > > Any ideas? Could my routing be hosed, although I can reach other remote > sites? Any help, or direction pointing would be appreciated. To find out if you have a routing problem use traceroute rather than ping to find out which way the packets appear to be going. You may have a bad default route on the FreeBSD box, or even bad routing information provided via rip (if your running routed) or any other routing protocol you are using. Something is wrong, that is for sure, given the above information. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 9 11:42:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA18810 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:42:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18803 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from dial008.ism.com.br (dial008.ism.com.br [200.255.211.108]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA05819 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:41:46 -0300 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:41:46 -0300 Message-Id: <199603091941.QAA05819@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: proxy server Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Can someone suggest me a proxy server to combine with apache httpd ? Question: There is any sense in putting two ethernet controlers in a proxy server to phisically separate the internal (protected) network from the external ? TIA! Helio. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 9 13:37:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA26728 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from nervosa.com (root@nervosa.com [192.187.228.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26719 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nervosa.com (coredump@onyx.nervosa.com [10.0.0.1]) by nervosa.com (8.7.5/nervosa.com.2) with SMTP id NAA09646; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:36:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:36:56 -0800 (PST) From: invalid opcode To: "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: proxy server In-Reply-To: <199603091941.QAA05819@unix1.ism.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica wrote: > Can someone suggest me a proxy server to combine with apache httpd ? Harvest Cache/Proxy server. Look in ports/www. == Chris Layne ============================================================= == coredump@nervosa.com ================ http://www.nervosa.com/~coredump == From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 9 20:16:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA22379 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from imssys.imssys.com ([199.171.16.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22373 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from imssys by imssys.imssys.com ; 9 MAR 96 23:03:00 EDT Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:03:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark F. Patterson" X-Sender: mpatters@imssys To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: slow network response In-Reply-To: <199603090759.XAA09747@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Thanks Rodney, but go luck. Traceroute tell me the routes looks good, but the average numbers on loopback are still very high. I re-examined my routing tables and there doesn't seem to be anything that stands out. Even checked my cables. Anyknown problems with a 3Com-509B-combo on thinnet(BNC). I don't recall any myself. Again, any help folks is appreciated. Thanks! On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:59:08 -0800 (PST) > From: Rodney W. Grimes > To: "Mark F. Patterson" > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: slow network response > > > > > Hello all, > > > > I'm just getting started as a small ISP (I hear ya... 'oh no another newbie'). > > Anyway... > > > > I seem to be having (I assume) some difficulty with my network. Here's > > why I think so: > > > > If I ping the main server (running FreeBSD 2.1) from another host on an > > outside network, the round trip time seems to be way-high (900-999ms). > > If I try to ping the main-server from another host, a Linux-box, on the > > local network, the times still appear to be high (700-800ms). > > > > Now here's what's intersting, any pings to or from Linux box, inside or > > outside the local network (except for the main-server) appear to be rather > > speedy (inside 0.1-0.8ms, outside 60-80.0ms ranges). Doing most anything from > > the main-server across the network seems awful _slow_. > > > > I have a 56k-FR connection, the main-server is FreeBSD2.1 with no load on it; > > the Linux-box on the local network is serving as the gateway. > > > > Any ideas? Could my routing be hosed, although I can reach other remote > > sites? Any help, or direction pointing would be appreciated. > > To find out if you have a routing problem use traceroute rather than > ping to find out which way the packets appear to be going. You may > have a bad default route on the FreeBSD box, or even bad routing information > provided via rip (if your running routed) or any other routing protocol > you are using. > > Something is wrong, that is for sure, given the above information. > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD >