From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 25 19:52:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA07576 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA07465 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA26755 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:49:57 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 26 Mar 96 13:50:19 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 26 Mar 96 13:49:27 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:49:20 -1000 Subject: cern httpd hanging about Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <94B1B2D2193@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm having a problem with CERN http on my web server. Every so often I check the swap use and find that it's too high, about 40% when 15-30% is normal for 15-20 proxy web clients. ps reveals that there are old httpd's hanging about with info like 166 ?? I 1:41:02 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... 2604 ?? IWN 0:00.10 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... 2880 ?? IWN 0:00.11 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... 2901 ?? IWN 0:00.12 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... 12340 p1 R+ 0:00.04 ps -ax When I kill off the first httpd the rest also go, and the swap comes back to normal. When I say first I mean 2604, not 166 which is started by rc.local Does anyone know why this happens, and if I can fix it. Is there any danger of the system running out of memory from these hanging about, particularly if I go away for a month? Eeek! I've just run out of swap. Freebsd does a nice job of killing processes when it runs out, but not the ones that are causing the problem, just the ones that are asking for memory. TIA, Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 26 09:56:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA03440 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from digital.netvoyage.net (root@digital.netvoyage.net [205.162.154.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03434 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bogawa@localhost) by digital.netvoyage.net (8.6.13/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA10303; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:56:08 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:56:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bryan Ogawa at Work To: Peter Stubbs cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cern httpd hanging about In-Reply-To: <94B1B2D2193@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Peter Stubbs wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having a problem with CERN http on my web server. Every so often I > check the swap use and find that it's too high, about 40% when 15-30% > is normal for 15-20 proxy web clients. > > ps reveals that there are old httpd's hanging about with info like > > 166 ?? I 1:41:02 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... > 2604 ?? IWN 0:00.10 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... > 2880 ?? IWN 0:00.11 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... > 2901 ?? IWN 0:00.12 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... > 12340 p1 R+ 0:00.04 ps -ax [...] I think this is NOT your problem, but when running NCSA or Apache in standalone mode it forks to meet demand, and the children don't go away. If I recall correctly, you had been running out of inetd, right? bryan Bryan K. Ogawa Questions or Problems with NetVoyage? help@netvoyage.net Check out the NetVoyage HelpWeb at.. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 26 12:41:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA14813 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from itchy.mosquito.com (itchy.mosquito.com [206.205.132.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14808 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from boot@localhost) by itchy.mosquito.com (8.6.11/8.6.12) id PAA20206 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:43:15 -0500 From: Bruce Bauman Message-Id: <199603262043.PAA20206@itchy.mosquito.com> Subject: UPS with FreeBSD? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:43:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've looked through the archives, but I want to know if anyone has a simple solution for using APC Back-UPS 600 with FreeBSD 2.1. I want something like a port with some directions for making up a cable. Barring that, I'll try to port some Linux software that I stumbled across, and make it available. However, if someone already has something working, I'd love to be able to just use it. Thanks in advance. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 26 15:08:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA01522 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from heather.greatbasin.com (heather.greatbasin.com [140.174.194.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01512 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from euterpe (euterpe.sierrawave.com [207.33.38.69]) by heather.greatbasin.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA09781; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:07:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199603262307.PAA09781@heather.greatbasin.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:07:42 PST From: jpaterson@sierrawave.com (Jim Paterson) Reply-To: jpaterson@sierrawave.com (Jim Paterson) To: boot@mosquito.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Jim Paterson's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: UPS with FreeBSD? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:43:15 -0500 (EST) you wrote: >I've looked through the archives, but I want to know if anyone has a simple solution >for using APC Back-UPS 600 with FreeBSD 2.1. I'm looking for the same thing. >I want something like a port with some directions for making up a cable. Same here -- I think one could use a parallel port adapted to the contact closures on the Back-UPS 600. > >Barring that, I'll try to port some Linux software that I stumbled across, and make >it available. However, if someone already has something working, I'd love to be > able to just use it. Could you send me a copy of the Linux software -- or point me? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Jim Paterson jpaterson@sierrawave.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 26 17:40:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA27772 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (jeff@mercury.jorsm.com [205.199.2.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27583 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id TAA25337; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:40:44 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:40:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeff.Lynch-JORSM.Internet" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Can't probe IDE CDROM In-Reply-To: <199603262043.PAA20206@itchy.mosquito.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Having a heck of a time getting my ATAPI CDROM recognized by FreeBSD2.1. Since I have only SCSI hard drives, the probe shows no wdc0 or wdc1 so the wcd0 or wcd1 devices aren't probed either. I have tried kernel.GENERIC as well as my own with CD9660 and wdc* and wcd0 enabled. Also option ATAPI is enabled. I have tried the CD as master, slave and cable select (whatever that is) on both IDE 0 and IDE 1. I have the BIOS configured without any drives, but tried various combos of NONE and AUTO types. Has anybody configured this way, what did you do? It only works if I stick an IDE drive on the same controller configured as master. I can't leave that stinking thing in there cause a win95 desktop needs it back. Arrrrrrrgh! ========================================================================= Jeff Lynch JORSM Internet mailbot: info@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider V:(219)322-2180 http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 05:44:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA28187 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion.fa.tca.com (alex@nash.pr.mcs.net [204.95.47.72]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA28181 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by orion.fa.tca.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA18354; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:49:50 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:49:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199603271349.HAA18354@orion.fa.tca.com> From: Alex Nash To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: UPS with FreeBSD? Reply-to: alex@fa.tca.com Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I've looked through the archives, but I want to know if anyone has a > > simple solution for using APC Back-UPS 600 with FreeBSD 2.1. > > I'm looking for the same thing. I don't have a simple solution, but I do have *a* solution... > >I want something like a port with some directions for making up a cable. > > Same here -- I think one could use a parallel port adapted to the contact > closures on the Back-UPS 600. I'm not sure what the electrical specs are on the parallel port, but the Back-UPS series uses RS-232 level inputs and outputs. Unfortunately, you can't get away with using a standard serial cable. > > Barring that, I'll try to port some Linux software that I stumbled > > across, and make it available. However, if someone already has > > something working, I'd love to be able to just use it. > > Could you send me a copy of the Linux software -- or point me? I'd really > appreciate it. Linux UPS software takes advantage of init's ability to examine /etc/powerfail when sent a hangup signal. If /etc/powerfail contains FAIL, then init runs the powerfail entry from /etc/inittab. If it contains ok, it runs the powerokwait entry. FreeBSD init doesn't do this. Linux also runs a script at shutdown which can toggle the UPS' shutoff line, but I don't know how to do this under FreeBSD. Here's what I did: 1. Made a cable that connected the UPS' power fail line to CTS, and the shutoff line to RTS. 2. Wrote a daemon (upsd) that: - checked the state of CTS every 5 seconds - runs 'shutdown -h +1 "Power failure"' if CTS is high for a specified duration - continues to monitor CTS, and kills shutdown if the power comes back on (Source included at the end of this message.) 3. Hacked shutdown to not fork itself off into the background. This allows upsd to keep track of it and kill it off if the power comes back. Here's the section I commented out: #if 0 { int forkpid; forkpid = fork(); if (forkpid == -1) { perror("shutdown: fork"); exit(1); } if (forkpid) { (void)printf("shutdown: [pid %d]\n", forkpid); exit(0); } } #endif (yes, I could have parsed the output to get the pid) 4. Added a line to this section of /usr/src/i386/i386/machdep.c: if (howto & RB_HALT) { + outb(0x2f8 + 4/*MCR*/, 0x02/*MCR_RTS*/); printf("\n"); printf("The operating system has halted.\n"); As you can see, this is far from an elegant solution. It would be nice to eliminate step 3 by having a command line option to tell shutdown not to daemonize itself. And of course, step 4 must not be an ugly kernel hack. Comments, suggestions? Alex -----------------------------CUT HERE----------------------------- #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include void SigChild () { while ( wait3(NULL, WNOHANG, NULL) > 0 ) ; } int LinePowerOk (int fd) { int flags; ioctl(fd, TIOCMGET, &flags); /* CTS is high during a power failure */ if (flags & TIOCM_CTS) return(0); return(1); } void SetShutoff (int fd, int state) { int powerBit = TIOCM_RTS; ioctl(fd, state ? TIOCMBIS : TIOCMBIC, &powerBit); } void SetPortMode (int fd) { struct termios term; tcgetattr(fd, &term); term.c_cflag &= ~HUPCL; tcsetattr(fd, TCSANOW, &term); } void InitConnection (int fd) { SetPortMode(fd); SetShutoff(fd, 0); } void SignalInit (int powerOk) { #ifdef LINUX static char *powerStatus = "/etc/powerstatus"; int fd; unlink(powerStatus); fd = open(powerStatus, O_CREAT | O_WRONLY, 0644); if (fd != -1) { static char okString[] = "OK\n"; static char failString[] = "FAIL\n"; if (powerOk) write(fd, okString, sizeof(okString) - 1); else write(fd, failString, sizeof(failString) - 1); close(fd); } kill(1, SIGPWR); #else static pid_t shutdownPid = 0; if (powerOk) { if (shutdownPid) kill(shutdownPid, SIGTERM); shutdownPid = 0; } else { if (shutdownPid == 0) { shutdownPid = fork(); if (shutdownPid < 0) syslog(LOG_DAEMON | LOG_CRIT, "unable to fork shutdown process"); if (shutdownPid == 0) { static char message[] = "Power failure"; execl("/sbin/shutdown", "shutdown", "-h", "+1", message, NULL); } else sync(); } } #endif } void WatchLine (int fd) { int previousState = LinePowerOk(fd); int failCount = 0; int shutdownInProgress = 0; while (1) { int currentState = LinePowerOk(fd); if (currentState == 1 && previousState == 0 && shutdownInProgress) { shutdownInProgress = 0; failCount = 0; syslog(LOG_DAEMON | LOG_CRIT, "Power restored"); SignalInit(1); } if (currentState == 0) { if (++failCount == 6) { shutdownInProgress = 1; SignalInit(0); syslog(LOG_DAEMON | LOG_CRIT, "Power failure"); } } previousState = currentState; sleep(5); } } int main (int argc, char *argv[]) { int fd = open("/dev/ups", O_RDWR); if (fd == -1) { perror("unable to open /dev/ups"); return(1); } InitConnection(fd); if (argc >= 2 && strcmp(argv[1], "killpower") == 0) SetShutoff(fd, 1); else { struct sigaction action; switch (fork()) { case 0: /* child */ setsid(); break; case -1: /* error */ fprintf(stderr, "%s: can't fork\n", argv[0]); return(1); default: /* parent */ return(0); } action.sa_flags = SA_RESTART; sigemptyset(&action.sa_mask); action.sa_handler = SigChild; sigaction(SIGCHLD, &action, NULL); openlog("upsd", 0, LOG_DAEMON); WatchLine(fd); } return(0); } -----------------------------CUT HERE----------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 11:15:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA19563 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (jeff@mercury.jorsm.com [205.199.2.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19555 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id NAA02251; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:15:38 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:15:38 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeff.Lynch-JORSM.Internet" To: Glen Foster cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't probe IDE CDROM In-Reply-To: <199603271420.JAA11071@nomad.osmre.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ah, but have you deleted the wd0 and wd1 devices from the kernel > config. file? This got my NEC 260 ATAPI CD-ROM working in a machine It worked. Didn't anticipate the wd* device probes would hose the CD. I did have to option the MATSHITA CR-581-M/1.05 as Master to get this to work. Thanks. ========================================================================= Jeff Lynch JORSM Internet mailbot: info@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider V:(219)322-2180 http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 14:35:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA07064 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07043 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA11865 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:34:43 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 28 Mar 96 08:34:43 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 28 Mar 96 08:34:24 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:34:22 -1000 Subject: Well how do you guys cache & proxy html? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <975E239655D@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Since none of you seem to the problem I have with cern httpd not returning & filling your swap, I assume that you are not using it. That leaves the question in the subject. I can't imagine that an ISP wouldn't want to take advantage of both of these features. TIA, Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 14:59:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA10090 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10085 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id QAA19555; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:58:40 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199603272258.QAA19555@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Well how do you guys cache & proxy html? To: peters@staidan.qld.edu.au (Peter Stubbs) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:58:39 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <975E239655D@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> from "Peter Stubbs" at Mar 28, 96 08:34:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi all, > > Since none of you seem to the problem I have with cern httpd not > returning & filling your swap, I assume that you are not using it. > > That leaves the question in the subject. I can't imagine that an ISP > wouldn't want to take advantage of both of these features. > > TIA, > Peter Hello, Maybe I just missed your original message... I don't see anything about this in my mailbox right now.. I am using CERN with a mildly modified proxy configuration from the one distributed with CERN.. I am not having any problems, but then again I am not placing great demands on it. Cache is like 100MB, etc.. Maybe you can describe the problem you are having in more detail... ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 15:18:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA11326 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11321 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA11133 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:29:13 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:16:27 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Well how do you guys cache & proxy html? In-Reply-To: <975E239655D@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Peter Stubbs wrote: > Since none of you seem to the problem I have with cern httpd not > returning & filling your swap, I assume that you are not using it. > > That leaves the question in the subject. I can't imagine that an ISP > wouldn't want to take advantage of both of these features. I'm running the CERN httpd on my home network as a proxy server as well as at one customer. Both 2.1R systems. When I tried to test the proxy using lynx on the FreeBSD system with http_proxy environment variables the httpd went crazy with forking and I had to do ps -ax |grep httpd |xargs kill repeatedly to kill them all off. But when I access it from other machines on the network everything runs just fine. I wonder if you are seeing something similar. Of course I don't need to use the proxy from the FreeBSD box because it is the gateway that has the real Internet connection. I am also running the TIS Firewall Toolkit on these gateways to provide the network machines (RFC1918 addresses like 10.1.1.1) with access to NNTP, AOL and CIS. Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 15:33:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA12213 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from cafu.fl.net.au (root@cafu.fl.net.au [203.63.198.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12195 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiger.fl.net.au (tiger.fl.net.au [203.63.198.11]) by cafu.fl.net.au (2.0/adf) with SMTP id KAA27127; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:34:59 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960328203139.00c124ec@mail.fl.net.au> X-Sender: adf@mail.fl.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:31:39 -1000 To: "Peter Stubbs" From: Andrew Foster Subject: Re: Well how do you guys cache & proxy html? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, >Since none of you seem to the problem I have with cern httpd not >returning & filling your swap, I assume that you are not using it. > >That leaves the question in the subject. I can't imagine that an ISP >wouldn't want to take advantage of both of these features. Get Harvest Cached - works very nicely on one FreeBSD machine here. The standard distrib. of it compiled with no rememberable problems. Thanks, Andrew Foster ----------- Andrew Foster Sydney, Australia From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 16:28:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA16819 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from cafu.fl.net.au (root@cafu.fl.net.au [203.63.198.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16779 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiger.fl.net.au (tiger.fl.net.au [203.63.198.11]) by cafu.fl.net.au (2.0/adf) with SMTP id LAA28599; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:28:52 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960328212531.006bfb1c@mail.fl.net.au> X-Sender: adf@mail.fl.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:25:31 -1000 To: Joe Greco From: Andrew Foster Subject: Re: Well how do you guys cache & proxy html? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, >Maybe I just missed your original message... I don't see anything about >this in my mailbox right now.. > >I am using CERN with a mildly modified proxy configuration from the one >distributed with CERN.. I am not having any problems, but then again I am >not placing great demands on it. Cache is like 100MB, etc.. > >Maybe you can describe the problem you are having in more detail... I had problems on one machine with CERN - it spawned hundreds of copies of itself randomly bringing the machine to a halt and making it reboot. However this didn't happen on another machine - but Harvest kills cern (in my opinion). Thanks, Andrew ----------- Andrew Foster Sydney, Australia From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 16:30:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA16973 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cafu.fl.net.au (cafu.fl.net.au [203.63.198.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16840 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiger.fl.net.au (tiger.fl.net.au [203.63.198.11]) by cafu.fl.net.au (2.0/adf) with SMTP id LAA28638; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:29:51 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960328212630.00c16bf0@mail.fl.net.au> X-Sender: adf@mail.fl.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:26:30 -1000 To: Michael Dillon From: Andrew Foster Subject: Re: Well how do you guys cache & proxy html? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Michael, >I'm running the CERN httpd on my home network as a proxy server as well >as at one customer. Both 2.1R systems. When I tried to test the proxy >using lynx on the FreeBSD system with http_proxy environment variables >the httpd went crazy with forking and I had to do > >ps -ax |grep httpd |xargs kill Yes, this is exactly what happened to me. >repeatedly to kill them all off. But when I access it from other machines >on the network everything runs just fine. I wonder if you are seeing >something similar. > >Of course I don't need to use the proxy from the FreeBSD box because it >is the gateway that has the real Internet connection. I am also running >the TIS Firewall Toolkit on these gateways to provide the network >machines (RFC1918 addresses like 10.1.1.1) with access to NNTP, AOL and CIS. Harvest has given me no problems at all. Thanks, Andrew ----------- Andrew Foster Sydney, Australia From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 16:37:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17415 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17407 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:36:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id QAA23409 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA12296; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:23:34 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 28 Mar 96 10:23:35 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 28 Mar 96 10:23:27 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: Joe Greco Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:23:18 -1000 Subject: Re: Well how do you guys cache & proxy html? CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <977B38C29F0@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 27 Mar 96, Joe Greco wrote: > > Maybe you can describe the problem you are having in more detail... > Thanks for your reply. Here's the original post <------------------------ Hi all, I'm having a problem with CERN http on my web server. Every so often I check the swap use and find that it's too high, about 40% when 15-30% is normal for 15-20 proxy web clients. ps reveals that there are old httpd's hanging about with info like 166 ?? I 1:41:02 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... 2604 ?? IWN 0:00.10 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... 2880 ?? IWN 0:00.11 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... 2901 ?? IWN 0:00.12 /usr/local/libexec/httpd -r /usr.... 12340 p1 R+ 0:00.04 ps -ax When I kill off the first httpd the rest also go, and the swap comes back to normal. When I say first I mean 2604, not 166 which is started by rc.local Does anyone know why this happens, and if I can fix it. Is there any danger of the system running out of memory from these hanging about, particularly if I go away for a month? Eeek! I've just run out of swap. Freebsd does a nice job of killing processes when it runs out, but not the ones that are causing the problem, just the ones that are asking for memory. <---------------------------------- I know of a site using sparcs which has the same problem. They use a cron job to kill all httpd's & restart it. Cheers, Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 19:08:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA24093 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 19:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from cluck.cpm.com.my (cluck.cpm.com.my [192.228.140.136]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24033 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 19:06:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from phang@localhost) by cluck.cpm.com.my (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00324 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:06:30 +0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: phang@cpm.com.my Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:28:04 SGT From: "k.k phang" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: BOCA 8 port Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk anybody out there use boca multiple ports serial card for his dailin services? I'm going to buy BOCA 8 port for our staffs to dial in to access internet via out lease line to ISP to internet. my question are 1. can freebsd survive for 10 dialin connections simultameously with 28.8 modem? 2. if freebsd can, what are the hardwares requiment? -- K.K Phang, Software Engineer Computer Protocol phang@cpm.com.my http://www.cpm.com.my From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 27 21:26:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA00910 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00905 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA10035; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:25:32 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603280525.VAA10035@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port To: phang@cpm.com.my Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:25:32 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "k.k phang" at "Mar 28, 96 10:28:04 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > anybody out there use boca multiple ports serial card for his dailin services? Several of my clients... > I'm going to buy BOCA 8 port for our staffs to dial in to access internet via > out lease line to ISP to internet. my question are > 1. can freebsd survive for 10 dialin connections simultameously with 28.8 > modem? Yes. 16 is about the limit using dumb serial cards, though I have seen folks push this to 32 if the machines is acting as a dedicated terminal server. > 2. if freebsd can, what are the hardwares requiment? I would recommend a Pentium 100 with 16 MB of memory if that is all the system is going to be doing. You could probably even drop that to a Pentium 75 without much problem (we run 8 dedicated 28.8 connections into a 486DX2/66 without any problem). And your not going to want to use the BB1008, it does _NOT_ have modem controls, you need to go to the BB2016 (16port) to get modem controls on the ports. I have the BB2016's and cables in stock, ask for a quote if your interested. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 01:36:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA12344 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from complex.complex.com.pl ([157.25.18.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA12334 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1 (serwis.complex.com.pl [157.25.18.45]) by complex.complex.com.pl (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id JAA12697; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:34:44 GMT Message-ID: Priority: Normal To: Rodney "W." Grimes Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Andrzej Szydlo Subject: BOCA 8 /16 port Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:34:46 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> 1. can freebsd survive for 10 dialin connections simultameously with 28.8 >> modem? >Yes. 16 is about the limit using dumb serial cards, though I have seen >folks push this to 32 if the machines is acting as a dedicated terminal >server. Can I run PPP simultanously on all lines without any delays ? Andrzej Szydlo From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 01:44:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA12785 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA12698 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA10302; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:42:44 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603280942.BAA10302@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: BOCA 8 /16 port To: andrzej@complex.complex.com.pl (Andrzej Szydlo) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:42:44 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from Andrzej Szydlo at "Mar 28, 96 10:34:46 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> 1. can freebsd survive for 10 dialin connections simultameously with > 28.8 > >> modem? > > >Yes. 16 is about the limit using dumb serial cards, though I have seen > >folks push this to 32 if the machines is acting as a dedicated terminal > >server. > > Can I run PPP simultanously on all lines without any delays ? If you use a sufficently fast system, a 100Mhz Pentium should have no problem what so ever handling 16 ports at 57.6K baud/port. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 03:42:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA19137 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 03:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gbdata.com (tty05.com1.houston.net [198.65.148.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA19132 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 03:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id FAA09453; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:40:16 -0600 From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199603281140.FAA09453@main.gbdata.com> Subject: Re: BOCA 8 /16 port To: andrzej@complex.complex.com.pl (Andrzej Szydlo) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:40:15 -0600 (CST) Cc: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Andrzej Szydlo" at Mar 28, 96 10:34:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andrzej Szydlo wrote: >Rod Grimes wrote: > >Yes. 16 is about the limit using dumb serial cards, though I have seen > >folks push this to 32 if the machines is acting as a dedicated terminal > >server. > > Can I run PPP simultanously on all lines without any delays ? I ran 16 ports at 38.4k on a 486DX2-66 with no problems. YMMV Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups mail info@GBData.COM for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 05:29:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA26449 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA26442 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id IAA21100; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:30:41 -0500 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199603281330.IAA21100@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: Well how do you guys cache & proxy html? To: adf@fl.net.au (Andrew Foster) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:30:41 -0500 (EST) Cc: michael@memra.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960328212630.00c16bf0@mail.fl.net.au> from "Andrew Foster" at Mar 28, 96 11:26:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Harvest has given me no problems at all. I looked at two different cacheng programs... ichthus.. a lperl cache program.. it worked ok but was not very stable... and cached.. it has worked VERY well and is what we are using here at the office for mutiple connections to the web across 28.8. I am also using it at home. -branson -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | branson@widomaker.com Ferguson SysAdmin | http://widomaker.com/~branson From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 07:10:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA04764 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA04500 Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA28547; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:03:46 -0600 Received: from tserv.lodgenet.com(204.124.120.10) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma001066; Thu Mar 28 09:01:20 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by tserv.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA22747; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:26:10 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA27093; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:38:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603281438.IAA27093@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: Joe Greco cc: erich@basenet.com (Eric Hester), freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: comtrol rocketports In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:45:46 CST." <199603161545.JAA24201@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:38:25 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk howdy, The salesman from Comtrol called again yesterday. I reminded him that I couldn't even seriously consider their card without a FBSD driver, he said he'd check on it... He called back and indicated that he'd gotten an engineer to look at porting (their?) BSDi driver. hope to know more in a few days... eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 07:42:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA08602 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:42:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from horse.supranet.net (root@[205.164.160.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08594 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:42:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [205.164.160.76] (ppp10-76.supranet.net [205.164.160.76]) by horse.supranet.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA17581; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:49:54 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: mjg@mail.supranet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:42:22 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: mglowacki@supranet.net (Michael Glowacki) Subject: Help compiling BIND 4.9.3p1 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need some help in compiling BIND 4.9.3p1 for FreeBSD 2.1R. I've looked at ftp.freebsd.org for a copy of the binary to no avail. I've followed the directions for integrating the BSD source into the source tree. The 'make obj' and 'make depend' give no errors. But something is missing. I keep getting these errors when linking: --- debug.o: Undefined symbol `_inet_nsap_ntoa' referenced from text segment list.o: Undefined symbol `_inet_nsap_ntoa' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. --- I suspect the file 'nsap_addr.c' is involved. I don't know how to force it to compile or link where necessary. -- Michael Glowacki mglowacki@supranet.net From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 07:49:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09587 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09570 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:49:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0u2JwV-0008rzC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 07:48 PST Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port To: phang@cpm.com.my Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:48:55 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "k.k phang" at Mar 28, 96 10:28:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1. can freebsd survive for 10 dialin connections simultameously with 28.8 modem? I'm running 20 or so lines on two Boca 2016's on a P5-133. I'm seeing the occasional silo overflow, but not quite as often as it was on a 486/66. Only 6 of the lines are 28.8, the others are 14.4. -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 10:57:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA26893 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26888 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10553; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:57:10 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603281857.KAA10553@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port To: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:57:10 -0800 (PST) Cc: phang@cpm.com.my, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Alan Batie at "Mar 28, 96 07:48:55 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 1. can freebsd survive for 10 dialin connections simultameously with 28.8 modem? > > I'm running 20 or so lines on two Boca 2016's on a P5-133. I'm seeing the > occasional silo overflow, but not quite as often as it was on a 486/66. Only > 6 of the lines are 28.8, the others are 14.4. Well, if this is agora, thats understandable, it is also a general purpose time sharring system with users doing all sorts of things on it.... agora:rgrimes {141} uptime 10:53AM up 30 days, 3:06, 34 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.21, 0.18 agora:rgrimes {142} > -- > Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: > batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. > +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway > DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 > > It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which > use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. Bravo!!! But you need to add junk faxing too :-) -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 12:32:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA01524 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01517 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0u2OLj-0008tgC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 12:31 PST Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port -> uptime To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:31:15 -0800 (PST) Cc: phang@cpm.com.my, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199603281857.KAA10553@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Mar 28, 96 10:57:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, if this is agora, thats understandable, it is also a general purpose > time sharring system with users doing all sorts of things on it.... I would expect interrupt handling to be independent of user load, except to the extent they are doing things to cause other interrupts. > agora:rgrimes {141} uptime > 10:53AM up 30 days, 3:06, 34 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.21, 0.18 > agora:rgrimes {142} I should mention also that in over 10 years of running agora on Xenix-286, SVR3, SVR4, FreeBSD 1.1.5 and now FreeBSD 2.1, this is one of a handful of instances where I've seen this much uptime. -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 12:47:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA02608 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02599 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA10676; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:46:48 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603282046.MAA10676@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port -> uptime To: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:46:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: phang@cpm.com.my, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Alan Batie at "Mar 28, 96 12:31:15 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Well, if this is agora, thats understandable, it is also a general purpose > > time sharring system with users doing all sorts of things on it.... > > I would expect interrupt handling to be independent of user load, except to > the extent they are doing things to cause other interrupts. And in all likely hood it is those ``other interrupts'' that have caused enough latency for you to see the occasional Silo overflow. I am pretty familiar with your hardware and am a bit surprized that you are getting them at all :-(. You system is all bus mastering low latency devices (I just checked an lsdev output, you do have a _lot_ of sio devices, that may cause some problems:). sio29 Idle Serial port: National 16550A or compatible sio30 Busy Serial port: National 16550A or compatible sio31 Idle Serial port: National 16550A or compatible sio48 Idle Serial port: National 16550A or compatible sio49 Idle Serial port: National 16550A or compatible I also counted 21 busy sio ports.... a bit beyond the 16 I sighted ... Probably a reduction of the FIFO threshold from 14 to 8 would totally eliminate your FIFO overflow problem, afterall it does need to check 49 ISA I/O registers per sio interrupt which takes ~49uS to do. Also I am not sure, but I think, the BB2016 can live with an ISA I/O recovery time of 1 BClk at 8Mhz, you may want to check your BIOS settings. > > agora:rgrimes {141} uptime > > 10:53AM up 30 days, 3:06, 34 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.21, 0.18 > > agora:rgrimes {142} > > I should mention also that in over 10 years of running agora on Xenix-286, > SVR3, SVR4, FreeBSD 1.1.5 and now FreeBSD 2.1, this is one of a handful > of instances where I've seen this much uptime. :-), I was even rather shocked when I saw the 30 day uptime!! I know that FreeBSD had not fared so well on your system in the past, but it looks like it has finally reached the ``stabity'' stage. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 13:11:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA05940 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05439 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0u2OtE-0008t1C; Thu, 28 Mar 96 13:05 PST Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port -> uptime To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:05:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: phang@cpm.com.my, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199603282046.MAA10676@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Mar 28, 96 12:46:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > afterall it does need to check > 49 ISA I/O registers per sio interrupt which takes ~49uS to do. Note that there's a gap between 31 and 48; I named the 2 onboard ports 48/49 in case I put in a third 2016 (which now seems impractical). > I am not sure, but I think, the BB2016 can live with an ISA I/O recovery > time of 1 BClk at 8Mhz, you may want to check your BIOS settings. OK; if it should crash, I'll check :-) -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 13:38:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA08666 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08658 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA15063; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:38:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199603282138.NAA15063@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie), phang@cpm.com.my, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:57:10 PST." <199603281857.KAA10553@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:38:41 -0800 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which >> use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. > >Bravo!!! But you need to add junk faxing too :-) He solves that problem by not having a fax machine. :-) -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 16:10:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA20172 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20167 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id SAA20976; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:07:59 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199603290007.SAA20976@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port -> uptime To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:07:58 -0600 (CST) Cc: batie@agora.rdrop.com, phang@cpm.com.my, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603282046.MAA10676@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Mar 28, 96 12:46:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > agora:rgrimes {141} uptime > > > 10:53AM up 30 days, 3:06, 34 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.21, 0.18 > > > agora:rgrimes {142} > > > > I should mention also that in over 10 years of running agora on Xenix-286, > > SVR3, SVR4, FreeBSD 1.1.5 and now FreeBSD 2.1, this is one of a handful > > of instances where I've seen this much uptime. > > :-), I was even rather shocked when I saw the 30 day uptime!! I know that > FreeBSD had not fared so well on your system in the past, but it looks like > it has finally reached the ``stabity'' stage. Huh, why???? :-) FreeBSD fares pretty well for uptime.... Too bad I took down orion.ods.net (2.0R) for an upgrade recently.. it was, I think, floating near the 100-day mark, and it's a general purpose machine. trantor# ruptime anacreon up 58+00:26, 0 users, load 0.16, 0.04, 0.01 demerzel up 13+22:35, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 gateway up 83+01:35, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 hummin up 6+06:02, 1 user, load 0.46, 0.28, 0.22 mycogen up 1+20:57, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 smyrno up 12+00:27, 1 user, load 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 tazenda up 61+23:35, 1 user, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 trantor up 53+12:38, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 nexos up 53+12:37, 1 user, load 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 Anything < 15 days was taken down "with reason"... trantor, gateway, and mycogen are routers and are mostly shuffling packets.. smyrno and anacreon do mail and DNS and other general services.. the only machine with a consistently bad uptime around here is news (hummin)... ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 16:25:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21036 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21031 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA10914; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:22:43 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603290022.QAA10914@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port -> uptime To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:22:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: batie@agora.rdrop.com, phang@cpm.com.my, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603290007.SAA20976@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Mar 28, 96 06:07:58 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > agora:rgrimes {141} uptime > > > > 10:53AM up 30 days, 3:06, 34 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.21, 0.18 > > > > agora:rgrimes {142} > > > > > > I should mention also that in over 10 years of running agora on Xenix-286, > > > SVR3, SVR4, FreeBSD 1.1.5 and now FreeBSD 2.1, this is one of a handful > > > of instances where I've seen this much uptime. > > > > :-), I was even rather shocked when I saw the 30 day uptime!! I know that > > FreeBSD had not fared so well on your system in the past, but it looks like > > it has finally reached the ``stabity'' stage. > > Huh, why???? :-) FreeBSD fares pretty well for uptime.... Depends on the environment, agora.rdrop.com has had quite a long history of having been hit by any of the many bugs that have been in FreeBSD over the years effecting it's up time. I have had uptimes in excess of 163 days on gndrsh.aac.dev.com, but it is a pretty simple system, just does email, very light ftp servers, etc... and that uptime was cut short by the fact that it was time to upgrade the hardware, it has not paniced in over 2 years. > Too bad I took down orion.ods.net (2.0R) for an upgrade recently.. it was, > I think, floating near the 100-day mark, and it's a general purpose machine. > > trantor# ruptime > anacreon up 58+00:26, 0 users, load 0.16, 0.04, 0.01 > demerzel up 13+22:35, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > gateway up 83+01:35, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > hummin up 6+06:02, 1 user, load 0.46, 0.28, 0.22 > mycogen up 1+20:57, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > smyrno up 12+00:27, 1 user, load 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 > tazenda up 61+23:35, 1 user, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > trantor up 53+12:38, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > nexos up 53+12:37, 1 user, load 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 For general puspose machines those have an awfully _low_ user count! > Anything < 15 days was taken down "with reason"... trantor, gateway, and > mycogen are routers and are mostly shuffling packets.. smyrno and anacreon > do mail and DNS and other general services.. the only machine with a > consistently bad uptime around here is news (hummin)... > > ... Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net > Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 20:43:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA11959 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA11940 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0u2W0I-0008rcC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:41 PST Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port -> uptime To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:41:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, phang@cpm.com.my, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603290007.SAA20976@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Mar 28, 96 06:07:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Huh, why???? :-) FreeBSD fares pretty well for uptime.... When I was running 1.1.5, I had to reboot every night in order to keep it from running out of swap space every other day or so due to the swap leak bug. -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 28 23:19:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA21216 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from xs1.simplex.nl (xs1.simplex.NL [193.78.46.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA21211 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:19:45 -0800 (PST) X-Organisation-1: Simplex Networking Amsterdam X (Inter)Network X-Organisation-2: Kruislaan 419-38a 1098 VA Amsterdam X Solutions & X-Organisation-3: tel:+31(20)-6932433 fax:+31(20)-6685486 X Access Provider Received: (from rob@localhost) by xs1.simplex.nl (8.7.5/8.7.3-RS) id IAA09858 for isp@freefall.freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:20:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:20:26 +0100 (MET) From: Rob Simons Message-Id: <199603290720.IAA09858@xs1.simplex.nl> To: isp@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port -> uptime Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From rob Fri Mar 29 08:18:44 1996 To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port -> uptime Status: R | > > > SVR3, SVR4, FreeBSD 1.1.5 and now FreeBSD 2.1, this is one of a handful | > > > of instances where I've seen this much uptime. | > > | > > :-), I was even rather shocked when I saw the 30 day uptime!! I know that | > > FreeBSD had not fared so well on your system in the past, but it looks like | > > it has finally reached the ``stabity'' stage. | > | > Huh, why???? :-) FreeBSD fares pretty well for uptime.... Seems ok to me as well. I've been running a news machine since FreeBSD 1.0 with quite a load, and uptimes of 90-170 days are normal. It's been running 1.0, 1.1.5.1, 2.0.5 and now 2.1 with equal figures .. although 2.1 has only been installed for about a few months, no crashes so far. All this with moderate hardware btw, a 486 with only 8Mb served >4000 groups on ethernet. I did skip most binaries thoug ;-) It couldn't do news.daily within less than 22 hours otherwise. - Rob. /*--------------------------------------------------------------*\ /* Rob Simons | rob@simplex.nl *\ /* ------------ | ------------- | -------- | ------- *\ /* Novell Netware System Operator | UNIX system operator *\ /*--------------------------------------------------------------*\ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 29 16:02:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA02719 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02688 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from aries.ai.net (ai.net [205.252.67.4]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id QAA26894 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id SAA25193; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:55:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:54:59 -0500 (EST) From: Network Coordinator To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Easy PROCMAIL Config generation. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One of the ISPs we have set up has been asking for a script to help their users automatically handle their incoming domain mail through a simpler method than directly writing procmailrc files. Anyone know of a tool that does this? Thanks, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 29 17:43:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA06186 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06181 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:43:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0u2pez-0008sgC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:40 PST Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: Easy PROCMAIL Config generation. To: nc@ai.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:40:57 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Mar 29, 96 06:54:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > One of the ISPs we have set up has been asking for a script to help their > users automatically handle their incoming domain mail through a simpler > method than directly writing procmailrc files. For a couple of domains that go to a single mail box, I put in a quick hack to the smail transports file to appendfile the specific mailbox. Then just route that domain to the appropriate transport. -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation.