From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 1 07:58:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29503 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 07:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.win.net (ns2.win.net [204.215.209.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29498 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 07:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from launchpad.win.net (launchpad@localhost) by ns2.win.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id KAA03279 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 10:42:48 -0400 Received: by win.net!launchpad; Sun, 01 Sep 1996 10:06:52 X-Mailer: WinNET Mail, v4.0a Message-ID: Reply-To: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 10:06:52 -0400 Subject: Re: MS Frontpage server extensions From: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>> > There must be thousands of FreeBSD ISPs out there. What are people doing >>> > about supporting FrontPage? FreeBSD is still not a supported OS. >>> > Has anyone got the BSD-OS/2.0 version to work under 2.1.5? >>> >>> I use Frontpage extensions with 2.1.5-RELEASE on a daily basis, and so do >>> my users. >>> >>> Download the one for BSDI 2.x and you're on your way. Believe me, >>> FreeBSD *is* a supported OS ... ;-) >> >>I seem to remember one of the developers mentioning that Apache on FreeBSD >>is one of the platforms they have in their development team. > >I have FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE and Apache 1.1.1 (although anything .9 and up >will do). > >I used the Apache setting (not apache manual-reset). We have it running for several virtual websites here with Apache. That machine is still running 2.1-stable; I haven't upgraded it yet. Frontpage works fine with Apache, but it bombed every time I tried to install it with Cern. Joe Mays From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 1 08:38:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00721 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 08:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00713 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 08:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr14.etinc.com (dialup-usr14.etinc.com [204.141.95.130]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA10493; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 11:41:55 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 11:41:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199609011541.LAA10493@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tom@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance at home) From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: New routed Cc: isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > YES. Things work fine without routed if you have a connection with a >> > FIXED IP number. If your connection gives you a separate IP number on >> > every call, the route for your new IP number to use 127.0.0.1 as >> > a gateway is only put in the table IF you are running routed or gated. >> > All other entries, including the default route are updated >> > properly by ijppp IF they exist when it re-establishes the connection. >> >> Erm, I'm sorry but this just doesn't make any sense. Your >> route_loopback shouldn't change one whit, whether you have a dynamic >> IP address or not, and there's nothing at all you've said here which >> brings me any closer to understanding why you need to run routed. >> > >Please don't lose patience with a poor grandfather who spends the >wee hours of the morning trying to learn something about Unix. >I have never seen a professionally set up system (which would explain >a lot) and I learn by trial and error (mostly error). > >I was not typing about route_loopback. The following is the >'netstat -rn' from 205.150.43.2 running the new routed. You need to run routed (or gated) if you need to announce routes to other systems or if you need to learn routes dynamically from other systems. If you dont you dont need it. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous PC Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 07:51:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16700 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 07:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (root@zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16669; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (petzi@localhost) by zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA15155; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:50:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:50:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Beckmann To: isp@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Cyclades 8 Port ISA problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have installed a Cyclades multiport card and compiled a new Kernel with the cy driver. Then I followed the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook on the web pages, and made the device special files. Then I entered these devices in /etc/ttys . But after the reboot, I'm always getting messages about ttyc4 to 7 not being configured. Any ideas what went wrong ? The boot messages say that the card is being recognized. Unfortunately I don't have the card documentation handy. Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc4: Device not configured Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc5: Device not configured Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc7: Device not configured Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc6: Device not configured Michael From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 07:53:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16983 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 07:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (jvissers@monet.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16973 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jvissers@localhost) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) id QAA11089 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:53:30 +0200 From: Jos Vissers Message-Id: <199609021453.QAA11089@monet.telebyte.nl> Subject: Re: New routed To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:53:29 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199609011541.LAA10493@etinc.com> from "dennis" at Sep 1, 96 11:41:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dennis wrote: > You need to run routed (or gated) if you need to announce routes to > other systems or if you need to learn routes dynamically > from other systems. If you dont you dont need it. We have several 2.1.5R machines and on a couple of Livingston portmasters. On the machines without ip aliases an with ip forwarding off I don't need routed and when I ping to one of the dial-up addresses it finds it and creates an arp entry for it. On the other machine I do need routed and when I ping it has the route to the dial-up ip-address but no arp entry. When I don't have routed running on those machines it want's to send to the dial-up ip through link#1. Jos From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 08:41:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20639 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (root@al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20630 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01746; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:10:45 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:10:45 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199609021540.BAA01746@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: petzi@zit.th-darmstadt.de, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyclades 8 Port ISA problems X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <50eu1f$kt@al.imforei.apana.org.au> you wrote: : Hello, Gday : I have installed a Cyclades multiport card and compiled a new Kernel with : the cy driver. Then I followed the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook on : the web pages, and made the device special files. Then I entered these : devices in /etc/ttys . But after the reboot, I'm always getting messages : about ttyc4 to 7 not being configured. Any ideas what went wrong ? The : boot messages say that the card is being recognized. : Unfortunately I don't have the card documentation handy. : Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc4: Device not configured : Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc5: Device not configured : Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc7: Device not configured : Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc6: Device not configured I'm not sure about this, but we have a guys using this card and it works just fine... his "dmesg" shows.. cy0 irq 10 maddr 0xd4000 msize 8192 on isa also in his /dev directory he has the files... ix: {5} ls -l ttyc* crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 0 Aug 11 12:14 ttyc0 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 1 Aug 19 22:28 ttyc1 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 2 Jan 13 1980 ttyc2 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 3 Jan 12 1980 ttyc3 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 4 Jan 7 1980 ttyc4 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 5 Jan 7 1980 ttyc5 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 6 Jul 12 23:52 ttyc6 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 7 Jun 27 22:18 ttyc7 and crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 64 Jan 7 1980 ttylc0 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 65 Jan 7 1980 ttylc1 (etc.. to 7) crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 32 Jan 7 1980 ttyic0 crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 33 Jan 7 1980 ttyic1 (etc.. to 7) and his kernel config file has... device cy0 at isa? tty irq 10 iomem 0xd4000 iosiz 0x2000 vector cyintr Hope this helps. Peter -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds Finger pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au for public PGP key Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object! From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 12:02:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07113 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07096; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id FAA31969; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:01:00 +1000 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:01:00 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199609021901.FAA31969@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hardware@FreeBSD.org, isp@FreeBSD.org, petzi@zit.th-darmstadt.de Subject: Re: Cyclades 8 Port ISA problems Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I have installed a Cyclades multiport card and compiled a new Kernel with >the cy driver. Then I followed the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook on >the web pages, and made the device special files. Then I entered these >... >Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc4: Device not configured >Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc5: Device not configured >Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc7: Device not configured >Sep 2 18:33:55 dalx7 getty: /dev/ttyc6: Device not configured It looks like the second cd1400 which controls the second group of 4 ports is broken or nonstandard. The driver probe checks up 4 cd1400's per full cy device and gives up with no warnings when one seems to be not there. Then only the previous ones found are configured. Bruce From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 12:30:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08312 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (root@zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08284; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (petzi@localhost) by zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA23004; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:28:47 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:28:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Beckmann To: Bruce Evans cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org, isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cyclades 8 Port ISA problems In-Reply-To: <199609021901.FAA31969@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > It looks like the second cd1400 which controls the second group > of 4 ports is broken or nonstandard. The driver probe checks up > 4 cd1400's per full cy device and gives up with no warnings when > one seems to be not there. Then only the previous ones found > are configured. I found out that it is probably configured for a wrong IRQ. The card is set to IRQ 5 , if I correctly interpret the switches (I don't know which I/O address, however, because I don't have the docs). However, the driver which was configured for IRQ 10 found the card there. This is weird. I had been quite sure that the card was configured for IRQ 10, so I didn't recheck. I will try it again tomorrow with different driver settings. Will report again then ;-) Michael From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 13:03:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09756 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (redshirt01.edmweb.com [204.244.190.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09751 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00239; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:02:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: pppd lcp-echo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been looking at the pppd man page and I noticed the lcp-echo-request and lcp-echo-failure options. These options sound like they would be good to use because they would detect a lost connection when the modem would not. For instance, if there's a problem with the modem control lines not reporting a lost carrier, or if the stack software on the other end has died but carrier has not been dropped. I tried using lcp-echo-request and lcp-echo-failure on the server I'm setting up but those options did not work well at all. Either the iijppp on my end wasn't sending out the responses, or the pppd on the server was ignoring them... The connection died after pppd sent out as many echo requests as specified in the lcp-echo-failure option. Also, pppd did not drop DTR as I expected, but instead just refused to forward packets. The server machine is running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE with the pppd and sys/netinet/in_rmx.c taken from a fairly recent version of -stable. The client is my 2.1.0-RELEASE machine at home with iijppp. Is this option broken, or do I have the wrong idea of its purpose? Also, will all of the popular stack programs send out echo responses? ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 14:53:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14825 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14775 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30 † id OAA15569; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28527; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199609022153.OAA28527@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Steve Reid cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd lcp-echo? In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 02 Sep 96 13:02:37 -0700. Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 14:53:12 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- MindBender.serv.net" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I tried using lcp-echo-request and lcp-echo-failure on the server I'm >setting up but those options did not work well at all. Either the iijppp >on my end wasn't sending out the responses, or the pppd on the server was >ignoring them... The connection died after pppd sent out as many echo >requests as specified in the lcp-echo-failure option. Also, pppd did not >drop DTR as I expected, but instead just refused to forward packets. They work fine for me with my current, and most of my previous, ISPs. I have had one ISP where the PPP server on the remote end just wouldn't respond to them. This could be your situation. For the record, this is with kernel-based ppp, running under NetBSD 1.2_BETA. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 14:56:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14995 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quimby.os2bbs.com (quimby.os2bbs.com [204.194.180.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14952; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nisech-slip2.nosc.mil by quimby.os2bbs.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0) for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; id AA6390; Mon, 02 Sep 96 17:53:41 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0b11.32.19960902175555.009c3090@mail.os2bbs.com> X-Sender: winterg@mail.os2bbs.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b11 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 17:56:01 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Gib Winter Subject: MS FrontPage and Authentication Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have MS FrontPage Server extensions 1.1 loaded on my FreeBSD 2.1.5 release and Apache 1.1.1 server. Everything works fine, except the password authentication - I have to manually copy a password from a FreeBSD generated password file to the MS Frontpage password file (thanks to an earlier posting to this list I saved many hours of pulling hair). The FreeBSD passwords are MD5 and the FrontPage appear to be DES. My questions are thus: It appears Apache does the authentication of users coming in with MD5 and FrontPage is creating the passwords with its Administrator function using DES. Is this a correct synopsis? What is the best way to fix this? Should I compile my system using the DES crypt? What exactly is the method of switching from MD5 to DES - I didn't see it mentioned in the handbook, it only talked about how to recognize which you have installed. Do I need to use a compile flag for this? Thanks, Gib From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 18:23:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22549 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22544 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA09618 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199609030049.UAA09618@ns2.harborcom.net> From: "Bradley Dunn" To: Subject: Re: MS Frontpage server extensions Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:40:52 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I get this error when trying to install FrontPage: Enter server config filename: /usr/local/www/server/conf/httpd.conf Enter host name for multi-hosting []: Cannot open file "/dev/null" for reading. Any ideas? This is 2.1.5 with Apache 1.1.1. Bradley Dunn Harbor Communications ---------- > From: Joe Mays - freebsd-isp > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: MS Frontpage server extensions > Date: Sunday, September 01, 1996 10:06 AM > >I have FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE and Apache 1.1.1 (although anything .9 and up > >will do). > > > >I used the Apache setting (not apache manual-reset). > > We have it running for several virtual websites here with Apache. > That machine is still running 2.1-stable; I haven't upgraded it > yet. Frontpage works fine with Apache, but it bombed every time I > tried to install it with Cern. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 20:51:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29383 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.col.com.hk ([203.83.252.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29373 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by saturn.col.com.hk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/23Mar96-1150AM) id AA00717; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:54:14 +0800 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:54:14 +0800 (HKT) From: Joe Lee To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: is subnet #0 available for use? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, i've asked this question in newsgroup but without any definite response. so here is the question: i once read an article about subnetting which stated that subnet #0 is available for use. this seems violate ip standards, however, i want to know if this is possible (short of ip addresses) and where can i get further info. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 21:20:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA01323 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Gatekeeper.Lamb.net (ulf@cat-food.Melmac.org [206.169.44.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01318 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by Gatekeeper.Lamb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA02822; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ulf Zimmermann" Message-Id: <960902212108.ZM2820@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:21:08 -0700 In-Reply-To: Joe Lee "is subnet #0 available for use?" (Sep 3, 11:54am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (4.0b.514 14may96) To: Joe Lee , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is subnet #0 available for use? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It depends on the hardware/software you use. Many older TCPIP implementations will not allow you to use subnet #0. But FreeBSD will allow you. On Ciscos you will need to set an extra parameter. Ulf. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 Lamb Art Internet Services || http://www.Lamb.net/ From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 21:52:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA02552 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s1.asianet.net.hk (asianet.net.hk [202.70.255.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02547 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s2 (s2 [202.70.255.18]) by s1.asianet.net.hk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06853; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:52:07 +0800 (HKT) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:52:07 +0800 (HKT) From: Chan Honman X-Sender: spencer@s2 To: joelee@col.com.hk cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is subnet #0 available for use? In-Reply-To: <960902212108.ZM2820@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk That is ip subnet-zero in global config mode. Cisco documentaton dis-courage this and refers you to RFC791. But all-one sub-net is OK. Anybody knows PC TCP/IP implementation allow this or not? Maybe joe can experiment with this on Trumpet/Win95/others, i'm curious. On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > It depends on the hardware/software you use. Many older TCPIP implementations > will not allow you to use subnet #0. But FreeBSD will allow you. On Ciscos you > will need to set an extra parameter. > > Ulf. > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 > Lamb Art Internet Services || http://www.Lamb.net/ > ======================================================================== Technical Support AsiaNet (H.K.) Ltd. "...there however is no substitute for the mid-night oil..." Dr. Y. Liao ======================================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 22:03:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA03073 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03064 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04283; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:03:27 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:03:23 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Ulf Zimmermann cc: Joe Lee , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is subnet #0 available for use? In-Reply-To: <960902212108.ZM2820@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > It depends on the hardware/software you use. Many older TCPIP implementations > will not allow you to use subnet #0. But FreeBSD will allow you. On Ciscos you > will need to set an extra parameter. You'll also not get gated to work properly with subnet "all zeros" or subnet "all ones". IF you are interested in gated, that is. The way to define subnets with the maximum number of hosts is to define them with 4,8,16,32,64,64,32,16,8,4 hosts, and discard the 4 hosts at each end (0,1,2,3,252,253,254,255) Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 2 23:24:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA08046 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uk1.vbc.net (jdd@uk1.vbc.net [204.137.194.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA08040 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jdd@localhost) by uk1.vbc.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA07097; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:23:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:23:57 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Dixon To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: Ulf Zimmermann , Joe Lee , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is subnet #0 available for use? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > will not allow you to use subnet #0. But FreeBSD will allow you. On Ciscos you > > will need to set an extra parameter. > > You'll also not get gated to work properly with subnet "all zeros" or > subnet "all ones". IF you are interested in gated, that is. The way to > define subnets with the maximum number of hosts is to define them with > 4,8,16,32,64,64,32,16,8,4 hosts, and discard the 4 hosts at each end > (0,1,2,3,252,253,254,255) ? We use gated under FreeBSD and BSD/OS and have no problems with these subnets. We certainly do not discard any groups of 4 hosts. For example, ns.vbc.net is at 194.207.0.1 and the four IP addresses 194.207.1.0 through .3 are used for one of our router ports (.1 is our end of the circuit, .2 the customer end). -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 http://www.uk.vbc.net VBCnet West +1 408 971 2682 fax +1 408 971 2684 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 3 01:05:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA12543 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magrathea.chance.ru (root@magrathea.chance.ru [194.58.86.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA12534 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from caseq@localhost) by magrathea.chance.ru (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA18018; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:02:19 +0400 From: Andrew Kosyakov Message-Id: <199609030802.MAA18018@magrathea.chance.ru> Subject: Re: pppd lcp-echo? To: steve@edmweb.com (Steve Reid) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:02:19 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-isp@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve Reid" at Sep 2, 96 01:02:37 pm Organization: Chance Publishing House X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Steve Reid: > I tried using lcp-echo-request and lcp-echo-failure on the server I'm > setting up but those options did not work well at all. Either the iijppp > on my end wasn't sending out the responses, or the pppd on the server was > ignoring them... The connection died after pppd sent out as many echo > requests as specified in the lcp-echo-failure option. Also, pppd did not > drop DTR as I expected, but instead just refused to forward packets. > > The server machine is running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE with the pppd and > Is this option broken, or do I have the wrong idea of its purpose? I have the same problem with FreeBSD 2.1.0 & pppd on one side and Cisco 2511 on the other :( -- Sincerely yours /&rew *** Andrew V. Kosyakov, Chance Publishing House, System Administrator caseq@chance.ru, 2:5030/31@Fidonet.Org, +7(812)210-8046 PGP key fingerprint: BA A8 48 20 E4 AE 9C 52 C5 5F C3 B8 1E 67 2C BF From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 3 06:07:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA27585 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27578 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (lithium@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA04960; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:06:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:06:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: Joe Lee cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is subnet #0 available for use? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A while back you couldn't use the first and last subnets ever. Most people still say you shouldn't - which is a large waste. However, most routers today let you use the first (#0) subnet and last just fine. On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Joe Lee wrote: > > i've asked this question in newsgroup but without any definite response. > so here is the question: > > i once read an article about subnetting which stated that subnet #0 is > available for use. this seems violate ip standards, however, i want to > know if this is possible (short of ip addresses) and where can i get > further info. > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 3 06:15:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA27997 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.id.net (rls@server.id.net [199.125.1.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27992 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rls@localhost) by server.id.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA01725; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:14:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Shady Message-Id: <199609031314.JAA01725@server.id.net> Subject: Re: is subnet #0 available for use? In-Reply-To: from Jim Dixon at "Sep 3, 96 07:23:57 am" To: jdd@vbc.net (Jim Dixon) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Cc: danny@panda.hilink.com.au, ulf@Lamb.net, joelee@col.com.hk, isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You'll also not get gated to work properly with subnet "all zeros" or > > subnet "all ones". IF you are interested in gated, that is. The way to > > define subnets with the maximum number of hosts is to define them with > > 4,8,16,32,64,64,32,16,8,4 hosts, and discard the 4 hosts at each end > > (0,1,2,3,252,253,254,255) > > ? We use gated under FreeBSD and BSD/OS and have no problems with these > subnets. We certainly do not discard any groups of 4 hosts. For > example, ns.vbc.net is at 194.207.0.1 and the four IP addresses > 194.207.1.0 through .3 are used for one of our router ports (.1 is our > end of the circuit, .2 the customer end). As do we, 199.125.0.1 -> 199.125.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 works fine going through our FreeBSD w/GateD & Cisco routers... -- Rob === _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Innovative Data Services Serving South-Eastern Michigan Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services Voice: (810)855-0404 / Fax: (810)855-3268 / Web: http://www.id.net From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 3 06:42:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA29477 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA29472 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com (gism.isot.com [206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA23210 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:44:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:44:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199609030944.EAA23210@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Can't Ping Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got the FreeBSD box attached to another providers ethernet with IP 206.26.67.224, I can ping withing the network, but can't seem to ping outside the network. The IP has been registered as domain isot.com and secondary as genstar.net. Does the genstar.net need to do anything in their end? From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 3 07:25:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01710 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01695 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA20631 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:28:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:28:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199609031428.KAA20631@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: isp@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: pppd lcp-echo? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I've been looking at the pppd man page and I noticed the lcp-echo-request >and lcp-echo-failure options. These options sound like they would be good >to use because they would detect a lost connection when the modem would >not. For instance, if there's a problem with the modem control lines not >reporting a lost carrier, or if the stack software on the other end has >died but carrier has not been dropped. They are more destructive than possitive, plus they are the crux of many problems with quite a few implementations. The bottom line is that if your down your down, and having keep-alives (which are all that echos really are) doesnt improve the uptime on your line nor does it do much in terms of informing you about down conditions. The only thing that they really do is add another failure point, and like I said, interfere with normal PPP operation by using bandwidth and potentially disrupting often fragile state machine implementations. Dennis > >I tried using lcp-echo-request and lcp-echo-failure on the server I'm >setting up but those options did not work well at all. Either the iijppp >on my end wasn't sending out the responses, or the pppd on the server was >ignoring them... The connection died after pppd sent out as many echo >requests as specified in the lcp-echo-failure option. Also, pppd did not >drop DTR as I expected, but instead just refused to forward packets. > >The server machine is running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE with the pppd and >sys/netinet/in_rmx.c taken from a fairly recent version of -stable. The >client is my 2.1.0-RELEASE machine at home with iijppp. > >Is this option broken, or do I have the wrong idea of its purpose? > >Also, will all of the popular stack programs send out echo responses? > > >===================================================================== >| Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | >| Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | >| PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | >| -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | >===================================================================:) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 3 08:35:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05357 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05352 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com (gism.isot.com [206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA23799 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:37:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:37:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199609031137.GAA23799@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Process Not Killed Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I dial in then login into shell and hang up the modem w/o loging out, the process is not killed. I can dialin to the same modem, and w/o login process, server will put me straight into the shell where I left off... What is going on? Is this a bug in FreeBSD 2.1? The modem is doing its thing by re-initializing when carrier is lost, but the server isn't... Felix. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 3 14:47:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27641 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27633 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01386; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:47:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:47:41 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is subnet #0 available for use? In-Reply-To: <199609031314.JAA01725@server.id.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Robert Shady wrote: I wrote: > > > You'll also not get gated to work properly with subnet "all zeros" or > > > subnet "all ones". IF you are interested in gated, that is. The way to > > > define subnets with the maximum number of hosts is to define them with > > > 4,8,16,32,64,64,32,16,8,4 hosts, and discard the 4 hosts at each end > > > (0,1,2,3,252,253,254,255) > > > > ? We use gated under FreeBSD and BSD/OS and have no problems with these > > subnets. We certainly do not discard any groups of 4 hosts. For > > As do we, 199.125.0.1 -> 199.125.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 works fine > going through our FreeBSD w/GateD & Cisco routers... OK, I'm prepared to be wrong. I do remember gated complaining to me once about this, but it was a while ago and may have been an earlier gated or my own misconfiguration. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 06:53:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA12299 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.trifecta.com (www.trifecta.com [206.245.150.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA12293 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dev@localhost) by www.trifecta.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA23705; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:51:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Dev Chanchani To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: syslog message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what the following syslog message means? thishost syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid arguement My syslog has been full of them, I was wondering if the password database has become corrupt and what I can do to fix it. THanks. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 12:31:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28320 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28315 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id OAA13725; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:29:42 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199609041929.OAA13725@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:29:42 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, alk@think.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at Aug 29, 96 05:44:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > > Sometimes you do not CARE when someone last read a file. It costs lots and > > lots of disk bandwidth to write that information back on a busy news server > > where thousands of files are accessed during every 30 second interval. > > > > If you do not have to write that information, you now have more disk > > bandwidth with which to READ more data, which is what you really wanna > > do. > > Clayton O'Neill fixed Linux to not update ATIMEs for use on his newsserver > and he did get some noticeable performance improvements. Yes, I saw his message a week or two after I butchered it into FreeBSD .. the comment was :This is an implementation of an idea that I believe was originally :mentioned on the FreeBSD hackers mailing list. so I am suspecting that my work was the incentive for them to do this :-) This is potentially a _great win_ for a reader machine with several hundred active nnrp clients. This is not (much of) a win for a feeds system. > Nowhere near the > improvements he got when he went RAID via DPT, but still, it was worth it. I want a DPT driver for FreeBSD... if I had money, I would PAY someone to do it... but I don't have money. :-( > I think he even had a mount time flag that would allow per fs ATIME > updates. (ie: mount -o noatime) Yes, I did this too. > I've not really looked at doing this yet but it didn't look very straight > forward. It's icky, at least the way I did it. DG had also worked on this and I'd really really like to see his work.... ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 13:31:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00921 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00910 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28362; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 15:30:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 15:30:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Joe Greco cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news In-Reply-To: <199609041929.OAA13725@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > Yes, I saw his message a week or two after I butchered it into FreeBSD .. > the comment was > > :This is an implementation of an idea that I believe was originally > :mentioned on the FreeBSD hackers mailing list. > > so I am suspecting that my work was the incentive for them to do this :-) Heh... I recalled seeing it mentioned on the lists here, and he was talking about tweaking newsserver performance etc and I mentioned that someone was talking about turning off ATIME updates. He had it working a few hours later if I recall correctly. > This is potentially a _great win_ for a reader machine with several > hundred active nnrp clients. > > This is not (much of) a win for a feeds system. Yes, but he saw an improvment in expire times. Of course, two weeks later he got his DPT in and it didn't matter if ATIMEs were being written or not. > > Nowhere near the > > improvements he got when he went RAID via DPT, but still, it was worth it. > > I want a DPT driver for FreeBSD... if I had money, I would PAY someone to > do it... but I don't have money. :-( Say... How much do you figure we can all raise? I might be able to throw in $250 to $500. (Dunno really, I'd have to convince my boss, and the fact that Linux and BSDI already have drivers is a strike against that...) > Yes, I did this too. Cool, I want your patches. > It's icky, at least the way I did it. DG had also worked on this and > I'd really really like to see his work.... Yes, wasn't he talking about cleaning it up and commiting it? That would be a spiffy option to have out of box. Have a good one. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 13:42:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA01625 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01613 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id PAA14028; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 15:41:27 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199609042041.PAA14028@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 15:41:27 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at Sep 4, 96 03:30:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > > Yes, I saw his message a week or two after I butchered it into FreeBSD .. > > the comment was > > > > :This is an implementation of an idea that I believe was originally > > :mentioned on the FreeBSD hackers mailing list. > > > > so I am suspecting that my work was the incentive for them to do this :-) > > Heh... I recalled seeing it mentioned on the lists here, and he was > talking about tweaking newsserver performance etc and I mentioned that > someone was talking about turning off ATIME updates. > > He had it working a few hours later if I recall correctly. Ahhh, fascinating, the life cycle of a feature request :-) ... 1) Me getting curious and frustrated and butchering it in one day. 2) Me mailing people about it. 3) Other people talking to other people about it. 4) Other people implementing it (hopefully properly) under Linux. 5) Me blowing away my changes because I don't think they are correct. 6) This all coming back to haunt me as something I started :-) > > This is potentially a _great win_ for a reader machine with several > > hundred active nnrp clients. > > > > This is not (much of) a win for a feeds system. > > Yes, but he saw an improvment in expire times. ... which I don't care about. I expire every 3 hours anyways. > Of course, two weeks later he got his DPT in and it didn't matter if > ATIMEs were being written or not. It still matters. It is just less apparent. > > > Nowhere near the > > > improvements he got when he went RAID via DPT, but still, it was worth it. > > > > I want a DPT driver for FreeBSD... if I had money, I would PAY someone to > > do it... but I don't have money. :-( > > Say... How much do you figure we can all raise? I might be able to throw > in $250 to $500. (Dunno really, I'd have to convince my boss, and the > fact that Linux and BSDI already have drivers is a strike against that...) I don't know... I don't have any money to work with unless Exec changes their minds.. in which case I would probably just buy a SCSI-SCSI controller anyways. > > Yes, I did this too. > > Cool, I want your patches. Sorry :-( Blew them away when I upgraded the box to 2.1.5R. I was convinced that they were not the right way to do it and DG had mentioned "almost" having it working, and I figured that somebody who had a clue about FreeBSD/BSD system internals had a much better chance of getting a technically correct implementation than I did. > > It's icky, at least the way I did it. DG had also worked on this and > > I'd really really like to see his work.... > > Yes, wasn't he talking about cleaning it up and commiting it? Yes... :-) > That would be a spiffy option to have out of box. Agreed. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 14:24:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03493 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03440 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA10500; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:35:14 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199609042035.NAA10500@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: winter@jurai.net, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, alk@think.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199609041929.OAA13725@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Sep 4, 96 02:29:42 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ... > > I think he even had a mount time flag that would allow per fs ATIME > > updates. (ie: mount -o noatime) > > Yes, I did this too. > > > I've not really looked at doing this yet but it didn't look very straight > > forward. > > It's icky, at least the way I did it. DG had also worked on this and > I'd really really like to see his work.... His work has been commited to -current as of a few days ago... -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 16:31:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09081 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patty.loop.net (patty.loop.net [204.179.169.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09065 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cassy@localhost) by patty.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA28326; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:30:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:30:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Perkins X-Sender: cassy@patty.loop.net To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP aliassing. (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:52:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Perkins To: Robert Shady Cc: Sam Magee , froden@bigblue.no, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP aliassing. Can anyone explain why a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is required for aliased IPs. Thank you, Cassandra M. Perkins The Loop ISC On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Robert Shady wrote: > > > I have made IP aliassing work by executing the following command: > > > ifconfig ep0 xxx.yyy.zzz alias > > > > > > And then add a route for that ip to localhost, but, when I add that alias, ifconfig comes up with a "File exists" error, > > > but the alias work, so I just wonder if it is the right way of doing things? > > > --------------------------------- > > > Frode Nordahl > > > > > > > > > > This started happening to me yesterday, after I upgraded from > > 2.1R to 2.1.5R -- before that, the same alias commands worked > > without complaint. Obviously some version difference here. > > Anybody know if these warnings can be ignored? > > You need to specify the network mask now... Ie: > > ifconfig ed0 1.1.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 > ifconfig ed0 alias 1.1.1.2 netmask 0xffffffff > ifconfig ed0 alias 1.1.1.3 netmask 0xffffffff > > -- Rob > === > _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ > _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ > > Innovative Data Services > Serving South-Eastern Michigan > Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services > Voice: (810)855-0404 / Fax: (810)855-3268 / Web: http://www.id.net > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 17:13:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA10517 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (rwc@cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10510 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA05528 for isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:13:00 -0400 From: Richard Cramer Message-Id: <199609050013.UAA05528@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: Anyone using Perl5.003.01 on v2.1.0?? To: isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:12:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello to the List - Has anyone installed Perl5.003.01 on FreeBSD v2.1.0 successfully? I am failing gdbm test 5, and test 5,6, and 7 when the test for gdbm is run seprately. The installed GDBM is v 1.7.3. Regards, Dick -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 18:41:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13209 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 18:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13201 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 18:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA18759; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:41:26 -0500 Message-Id: <9609050141.AA18759@iworks.InterWorks.org> From: "Daniel M. Eischen" Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:41:24 CDT Cc: winter@jurai.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199609042041.PAA14028@brasil.moneng.mei.com>; from "Joe Greco" at Sep 4, 96 3:41 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Nowhere near the > > > > improvements he got when he went RAID via DPT, but still, it was worth it. > > > > > > I want a DPT driver for FreeBSD... if I had money, I would PAY someone to > > > do it... but I don't have money. :-( > > > > Say... How much do you figure we can all raise? I might be able to throw > > in $250 to $500. (Dunno really, I'd have to convince my boss, and the > > fact that Linux and BSDI already have drivers is a strike against that...) > > I don't know... I don't have any money to work with unless Exec changes > their minds.. in which case I would probably just buy a SCSI-SCSI > controller anyways. > I thought that someone from DPT was working on a FreeBSD driver. That was a while ago too. Linux also has a DPT driver. Maybe it could be ported as a lkm. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 19:46:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA15801 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15796 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alyssa.ai.net ([208.194.40.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA18193 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nc@localhost) by alyssa.ai.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16054; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:41:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:41:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: Cassandra Perkins cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP aliassing. (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We run 2.1.5 on some of our machines, and don't need to specify network masks at all. Jerry Tagra American Information Network On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Cassandra Perkins wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:52:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Cassandra Perkins > To: Robert Shady > Cc: Sam Magee , froden@bigblue.no, isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: IP aliassing. > > Can anyone explain why a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is required for > aliased IPs. > > Thank you, > > Cassandra M. Perkins > The Loop ISC > > On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Robert Shady wrote: > > > > > I have made IP aliassing work by executing the following command: > > > > ifconfig ep0 xxx.yyy.zzz alias > > > > > > > > And then add a route for that ip to localhost, but, when I add that alias, ifconfig comes up with a "File exists" error, > > > > but the alias work, so I just wonder if it is the right way of doing things? > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Frode Nordahl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This started happening to me yesterday, after I upgraded from > > > 2.1R to 2.1.5R -- before that, the same alias commands worked > > > without complaint. Obviously some version difference here. > > > Anybody know if these warnings can be ignored? > > > > You need to specify the network mask now... Ie: > > > > ifconfig ed0 1.1.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 > > ifconfig ed0 alias 1.1.1.2 netmask 0xffffffff > > ifconfig ed0 alias 1.1.1.3 netmask 0xffffffff > > > > -- Rob > > === > > _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ > > _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ > > _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ > > > > Innovative Data Services > > Serving South-Eastern Michigan > > Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services > > Voice: (810)855-0404 / Fax: (810)855-3268 / Web: http://www.id.net > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 20:08:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA16637 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA16631 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com by agora.rdrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0uyUn8-0008sSC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:07 PDT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA01918; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 18:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199609050119.SAA01918@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Joe Greco cc: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Sep 1996 15:41:27 CDT." <199609042041.PAA14028@brasil.moneng.mei.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 18:19:22 -0700 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Sorry :-( Blew them away when I upgraded the box to 2.1.5R. I was >convinced that they were not the right way to do it and DG had mentioned >"almost" having it working, and I figured that somebody who had a clue >about FreeBSD/BSD system internals had a much better chance of getting >a technically correct implementation than I did. > >> > It's icky, at least the way I did it. DG had also worked on this and >> > I'd really really like to see his work.... >> >> Yes, wasn't he talking about cleaning it up and commiting it? > >Yes... :-) > >> That would be a spiffy option to have out of box. > >Agreed. I committed the changes for -current, although I haven't documented the new "noatime" option in the manual page yet - I'd like to get a little more testing done with it first by other people. The changes for 2.1.5 are attached. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project Index: sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c,v retrieving revision 1.25.4.4 diff -c -r1.25.4.4 vfs_syscalls.c *** vfs_syscalls.c 1996/01/16 13:09:33 1.25.4.4 --- vfs_syscalls.c 1996/09/03 04:40:11 *************** *** 168,176 **** else if (mp->mnt_flag & MNT_RDONLY) mp->mnt_flag |= MNT_WANTRDWR; mp->mnt_flag &=~ (MNT_NOSUID | MNT_NOEXEC | MNT_NODEV | ! MNT_SYNCHRONOUS | MNT_UNION | MNT_ASYNC); mp->mnt_flag |= uap->flags & (MNT_NOSUID | MNT_NOEXEC | MNT_NODEV | ! MNT_SYNCHRONOUS | MNT_UNION | MNT_ASYNC | MNT_FORCE); /* * Mount the filesystem. */ --- 168,176 ---- else if (mp->mnt_flag & MNT_RDONLY) mp->mnt_flag |= MNT_WANTRDWR; mp->mnt_flag &=~ (MNT_NOSUID | MNT_NOEXEC | MNT_NODEV | ! MNT_SYNCHRONOUS | MNT_UNION | MNT_ASYNC | MNT_NOATIME); mp->mnt_flag |= uap->flags & (MNT_NOSUID | MNT_NOEXEC | MNT_NODEV | ! MNT_SYNCHRONOUS | MNT_UNION | MNT_ASYNC | MNT_FORCE | MNT_NOATIME); /* * Mount the filesystem. */ Index: sys/sys/mount.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/sys/mount.h,v retrieving revision 1.19.4.1 diff -c -r1.19.4.1 mount.h *** mount.h 1996/03/21 20:30:14 1.19.4.1 --- mount.h 1996/09/03 05:54:29 *************** *** 63,70 **** #define MNAMELEN 90 /* length of buffer for returned name */ struct statfs { ! short f_type; /* type of filesystem (see below) */ ! short f_flags; /* copy of mount flags */ long f_bsize; /* fundamental file system block size */ long f_iosize; /* optimal transfer block size */ long f_blocks; /* total data blocks in file system */ --- 63,69 ---- #define MNAMELEN 90 /* length of buffer for returned name */ struct statfs { ! long f_spare2; /* placeholder */ long f_bsize; /* fundamental file system block size */ long f_iosize; /* optimal transfer block size */ long f_blocks; /* total data blocks in file system */ *************** *** 73,79 **** long f_files; /* total file nodes in file system */ long f_ffree; /* free file nodes in fs */ fsid_t f_fsid; /* file system id */ ! long f_spare[9]; /* spare for later */ char f_mntonname[MNAMELEN]; /* directory on which mounted */ char f_mntfromname[MNAMELEN];/* mounted filesystem */ }; --- 72,81 ---- long f_files; /* total file nodes in file system */ long f_ffree; /* free file nodes in fs */ fsid_t f_fsid; /* file system id */ ! uid_t f_owner; /* user that mounted the filesystem */ ! int f_type; /* type of filesystem (see below) */ ! int f_flags; /* copy of mount flags */ ! long f_spare[6]; /* spare for later */ char f_mntonname[MNAMELEN]; /* directory on which mounted */ char f_mntfromname[MNAMELEN];/* mounted filesystem */ }; *************** *** 152,157 **** --- 154,160 ---- #define MNT_NODEV 0x00000010 /* don't interpret special files */ #define MNT_UNION 0x00000020 /* union with underlying filesystem */ #define MNT_ASYNC 0x00000040 /* file system written asynchronously */ + #define MNT_NOATIME 0x10000000 /* Disable update of file access times */ /* * exported mount flags. *************** *** 173,179 **** /* * Mask of flags that are visible to statfs() */ ! #define MNT_VISFLAGMASK 0x0000ffff /* * filesystem control flags. --- 176,185 ---- /* * Mask of flags that are visible to statfs() */ ! #define MNT_VISFLAGMASK (MNT_RDONLY|MNT_SYNCHRONOUS|MNT_NOEXEC|MNT_NOSUID| \ ! MNT_NODEV|MNT_UNION|MNT_ASYNC|MNT_EXRDONLY|MNT_EXPORTED| \ ! MNT_DEFEXPORTED|MNT_EXPORTANON|MNT_EXKERB|MNT_LOCAL| \ ! MNT_QUOTA|MNT_ROOTFS|MNT_USER|MNT_NOATIME) /* * filesystem control flags. Index: sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_readwrite.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_readwrite.c,v retrieving revision 1.9.4.1 diff -c -r1.9.4.1 ufs_readwrite.c *** ufs_readwrite.c 1996/06/25 03:02:11 1.9.4.1 --- ufs_readwrite.c 1996/09/03 04:30:36 *************** *** 156,162 **** } if (bp != NULL) brelse(bp); ! ip->i_flag |= IN_ACCESS; return (error); } --- 156,163 ---- } if (bp != NULL) brelse(bp); ! if (!(vp->v_mount->mnt_flag & MNT_NOATIME)) ! ip->i_flag |= IN_ACCESS; return (error); } Index: sbin/mount/mntopts.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/mount/mntopts.h,v retrieving revision 1.4.4.1 diff -c -r1.4.4.1 mntopts.h *** mntopts.h 1995/08/30 09:21:55 1.4.4.1 --- mntopts.h 1996/09/03 04:45:22 *************** *** 42,47 **** --- 42,48 ---- /* User-visible MNT_ flags. */ #define MOPT_ASYNC { "async", 0, MNT_ASYNC, 0 } + #define MOPT_NOATIME { "atime", 1, MNT_NOATIME, 0 } #define MOPT_NOAUTO { "auto", 1, 0, 0 } #define MOPT_NODEV { "dev", 1, MNT_NODEV, 0 } #define MOPT_NOEXEC { "exec", 1, MNT_NOEXEC, 0 } *************** *** 69,74 **** --- 70,76 ---- /* Standard options which all mounts can understand. */ #define MOPT_STDOPTS \ MOPT_FSTAB_COMPAT, \ + MOPT_NOATIME, \ MOPT_NOAUTO, \ MOPT_NODEV, \ MOPT_NOEXEC, \ Index: sbin/mount/mount.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/mount/mount.c,v retrieving revision 1.6.4.1 diff -c -r1.6.4.1 mount.c *** mount.c 1995/08/30 09:22:02 1.6.4.1 --- mount.c 1996/09/03 04:44:43 *************** *** 84,89 **** --- 84,90 ---- { MNT_ASYNC, "asynchronous" }, { MNT_EXPORTED, "NFS exported" }, { MNT_LOCAL, "local" }, + { MNT_NOATIME, "noatime" }, { MNT_NODEV, "nodev" }, { MNT_NOEXEC, "noexec" }, { MNT_NOSUID, "nosuid" }, From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 20:18:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA17035 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate ([202.159.65.166]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17029; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manado.wasantara.net.id (manado.wasantara.net.id [202.159.87.163]) by mailgate (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA20319; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:07:44 +0700 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:07:44 +0700 Received: from MANADO/SpoolDir by manado.wasantara.net.id (Mercury 1.21); 5 Sep 96 11:16:45 GMT+0800 Received: from SpoolDir by MANADO (Mercury 1.21); 5 Sep 96 11:16:27 GMT+0800 Received: from bandung.wasantara.net.id by manado.wasantara.net.id (Mercury 1.21); 5 Sep 96 11:16:15 GMT+0800 X-Sender: park@manado.wasantara.net.id (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: park@manado.wasantara.net.id (Eka Kelana) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4B6E4B58B1@manado.wasantara.net.id> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have difficulties in making my freebsd be able to connect to my ISP. And I hope there are some people here who is able to give me some help. Here is my problem: My ISP uses PPP and assigns IP address to each user dynamically. So I used user PPP and made a very few changes to PPP configuration file example located in /etc/ppp, then I renamed it into it's proper name. The only changes I made looks like this: delete all add 0 0 HISADDR in file ppp.linkup. I didn't make any changes to the other file located in the same directory because I think that they have nothing to do with. I just renamed ppp.conf.iij file into ppp.conf file. I read the first line in that file which explain some stuffs about making a connection to an ISP which use PPP and assign IP address dynamically and I thought it could get me out of this problem. As addition, I also made a few changes to /etc/hosts and /etc/sysconfig. It looks loke this: /etc/hosts ----> adding line "10.0.0.1 myhost.local.pc myhost" /etc/sysconfig ---> -set hostname to "myhost.local.pc" -adding ethernet device and tunnel device (ed1 & tun0) and also the neccessary changes to ifconfig_${device} line -set ed1 as "myhost.local.pc" and set tun0 IP address to 0.0.0.0 -set routed flag with "-s" And I also created file /etc/resolv.conf into which I put this line: "nameserver 202.159.65.166" Then I rebooted the machine and invoke PPP. After made some neccessary configuration setting I tried to make a PPP connection by dialing my ISP using command "term". I could connect to my ISP and logging in, but after I invoked PPP in the remote machine into which I logged in, PPP program in my computer and PPP program in remote machine refused to negotiate and I could not get any IP address from my ISP. (invoking PPP in my ISP's remote machine after logging in is the procedure I should do to start PPP program in remote machine). I also would like to tell you that I currently do not know the IP address of my ISP remote machine or gateway and my ISP's network mask. The only address I know is my ISP's DNS. That's all... And thank's anyway for providing time to read this message. I would be very grateful for the help. -Eka Kelana- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 20:22:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA17206 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17201 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA10817; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:20:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Joe Greco cc: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd), alk@think.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Sep 1996 14:29:42 CDT." <199609041929.OAA13725@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 23:20:29 -0400 Message-ID: <10814.841893629@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe Greco wrote in message ID <199609041929.OAA13725@brasil.moneng.mei.com>: > > I've not really looked at doing this yet but it didn't look very straight > > forward. > It's icky, at least the way I did it. DG had also worked on this and > I'd really really like to see his work.... It's in -current now, and a -stable version is available now too. Seems to work fine :-) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 20:49:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA18539 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA18534 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11306; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:49:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:49:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: "Daniel M. Eischen" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news In-Reply-To: <9609050141.AA18759@iworks.InterWorks.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > Linux also has a DPT driver. Maybe it could be ported as a lkm. BSDI has a DPT driver. That would be a better place to start. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 20:52:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA18709 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA18701 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA13746; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:51:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Cassandra Perkins cc: isp@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: IP aliassing. (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Sep 1996 16:30:23 PDT." Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 23:51:36 -0400 Message-ID: <13743.841895496@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Cassandra Perkins wrote in message ID : > Can anyone explain why a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is required for > aliased IPs. Because a route already exists for that network (the addresses the interface was originally ifconfig'd with) so you need to establish a HOST route, not a network route... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 22:46:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA23381 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts11-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23376; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00542; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:44:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Eka Kelana cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <4B6E4B58B1@manado.wasantara.net.id> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Eka Kelana wrote: > I have difficulties in making my freebsd be able to connect to my ISP. > And I hope there are some people here who is able to give me some help. > > Here is my problem: > > My ISP uses PPP and assigns IP address to each user dynamically. > So I used user PPP and made a very few changes to PPP configuration file > example located in /etc/ppp, then I renamed it into it's proper name. The > only changes I made looks like this: > > delete all > add 0 0 HISADDR ppp.linkup is pretty broken. I know here that it doesn't work. Once you get linked up, you should just type 'add 0 0 HISADDR' to add the proper route. > > in file ppp.linkup. I didn't make any changes to the other file located in > the same directory because I think that they have nothing to do with. I just > renamed ppp.conf.iij file into ppp.conf file. You should make a new entry for your ISP with the proper settings (device, speed, login sequence). My profile is as follows: uonet: set phone 3466520 disable pred1 deny pred1 set login "TIMEOUT 5 Username:-\\r-Username: blah word: blah UOnet ppp" set ifaddr set timeout 0 This sets me up for fully dynamic addresses. > I read the first line in that file which explain some stuffs about making a > connection to an ISP which use PPP and assign IP address dynamically and I > thought it could get me out of this problem. > As addition, I also made a few changes to /etc/hosts and /etc/sysconfig. It > looks loke this: > > /etc/hosts ----> adding line "10.0.0.1 myhost.local.pc myhost" OK there. > /etc/sysconfig ---> -set hostname to "myhost.local.pc" > -adding ethernet device and tunnel device (ed1 & tun0) > and also the neccessary changes to ifconfig_${device} line > -set ed1 as "myhost.local.pc" and set tun0 IP address to > 0.0.0.0 > -set routed flag with "-s" Do NOT ifconfig tun0; ppp will do it for you. I personally set routed=NO since I've had bad experiences with routed. > And I also created file /etc/resolv.conf into which I put this line: > "nameserver 202.159.65.166" Check. > Then I rebooted the machine and invoke PPP. After made some neccessary > configuration setting I tried to make a PPP connection by dialing my ISP > using command "term". > I could connect to my ISP and logging in, but after I invoked PPP in the > remote machine into which I logged in, PPP program in my computer and PPP > program in remote machine refused to negotiate and I could not get any IP > address from my ISP. Are you sure this is the problem? Did you check /var/log/ppp.log? Do you require any special authentication? > (invoking PPP in my ISP's remote machine after logging in is the procedure I > should do to start PPP program in remote machine). > I also would like to tell you that I currently do not know the IP address of > my ISP remote machine or gateway and my ISP's network mask. The only address > I know is my ISP's DNS. The other information isn't needed -- it's exchanged when the ppp session is negotiated. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 4 23:35:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA25583 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25578 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA09573 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:34:15 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA11365; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:32:59 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199609050632.XAA11365@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at "Sep 4, 96 10:49:43 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > > Linux also has a DPT driver. Maybe it could be ported as a lkm. > > BSDI has a DPT driver. That would be a better place to start. BSDI's drive would be a very dangerous place to start unless you are familiar with proper ``white room'' techniques to protect yourself from copyright infringement. The BSDI code is covered by a strict and very inforcable copyright. Even reading the code, and then going into another room and writting a drive could lead to copyright violation. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 00:09:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27242 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27237 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.intrastar.net (root@BSD.INTRASTAR.NET [206.136.25.13]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA18549 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jsuter@localhost) by bsd.intrastar.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA02363; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 01:58:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 01:58:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Jacob Suter To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Process Not Killed In-Reply-To: <199609031137.GAA23799@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Global Internet Shopping Mall wrote: > When I dial in then login into shell and hang up the modem w/o loging out, > the process is not killed. I can dialin to the same modem, and w/o login > process, server will put me straight into the shell where I left off... > > What is going on? Is this a bug in FreeBSD 2.1? The modem is doing its > thing by re-initializing when carrier is lost, but the server isn't... > > Felix AT&C1 Nuff Said From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 04:50:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07701 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 04:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.win.net (ns2.win.net [204.215.209.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA07696 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 04:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from launchpad.win.net (launchpad@localhost) by ns2.win.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id HAA27821 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:45:40 -0400 Received: by win.net!launchpad; Thu, 05 Sep 1996 07:43:24 X-Mailer: WinNET Mail, v4.0a Message-ID: Reply-To: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 07:43:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news From: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I want a DPT driver for FreeBSD... if I had money, I would PAY someone to >> do it... but I don't have money. :-( > >Say... How much do you figure we can all raise? I might be able to throw >in $250 to $500. (Dunno really, I'd have to convince my boss, and the >fact that Linux and BSDI already have drivers is a strike against that...) I was just discussing the possibility of paying someone to develop one with my boss last week. We're certainly open to the idea here. To my mind the lack of any real RAID solution for FreeBSD is the biggest flaw with the OS. If this is a serious suggestion we would be very open to pitching in. Joe Mays From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 04:51:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07734 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 04:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.win.net (ns2.win.net [204.215.209.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA07728 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 04:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from launchpad.win.net (launchpad@localhost) by ns2.win.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id HAA27838 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:45:42 -0400 Received: by win.net!launchpad; Thu, 05 Sep 1996 07:44:47 X-Mailer: WinNET Mail, v4.0a Message-ID: Reply-To: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 07:44:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news From: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I don't know... I don't have any money to work with unless Exec changes >> their minds.. in which case I would probably just buy a SCSI-SCSI >> controller anyways. >> > >I thought that someone from DPT was working on a FreeBSD driver. That was >a while ago too. I exchanged email with that guy this weekend...here is his response. :REPLY-TO: salyzyn@inet.dpt.com :////////////////////////////// :Please contact the volunteer working on the FreeBSD driver: : Bob Wilcox :If he has no progress to report, I'd be interested in hearing from :you, maybe I can be motivated to start up again on this project. :Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn I sent a couple of messages to bob@luke.pmr.com, but haven't received a response yet. That's when I walked into my boss's office and said, "This thing will exist when someone pays for it to exist." Joe Mays From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 08:28:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA24153 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24144 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06373; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:28:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:28:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199609051528.JAA06373@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd), freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news In-Reply-To: <199609050632.XAA11365@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> References: <199609050632.XAA11365@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rodney W. Grimes writes: > > On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > > > Linux also has a DPT driver. Maybe it could be ported as a lkm. > > > > BSDI has a DPT driver. That would be a better place to start. > > BSDI's drive would be a very dangerous place to start unless you are > familiar with proper ``white room'' techniques to protect yourself > from copyright infringement. The BSDI code is covered by a strict > and very inforcable copyright. Even reading the code, and then going > into another room and writting a drive could lead to copyright violation. Actually, no. The BSDi DPT driver was made publically available by DPT, not by BSDi. Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 08:39:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA24852 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genghis_khan.dbeach.com (genghis_khan.dbeach.com [207.18.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24712 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from naief@localhost) by genghis_khan.dbeach.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA06415; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:32:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:32:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Admin To: Joe Mays - freebsd-isp cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Joe Mays - freebsd-isp wrote: > >> I want a DPT driver for FreeBSD... if I had money, I would PAY someone to > >> do it... but I don't have money. :-( > > > >Say... How much do you figure we can all raise? I might be able to throw > >in $250 to $500. (Dunno really, I'd have to convince my boss, and the > >fact that Linux and BSDI already have drivers is a strike against that...) > > I was just discussing the possibility of paying someone to develop > one with my boss last week. We're certainly open to the idea > here. To my mind the lack of any real RAID solution for FreeBSD is > the biggest flaw with the OS. If this is a serious suggestion we > would be very open to pitching in. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Assuming that the driver will be free and avilable to everyone we will match you $ for $. If thats what it takes to bring RAID support to FreeBSD, then why not. This way we can get what we want and at the same time contribute somthing back to FreeBSD which has done so much for us, a win-win deal ;-) Naief > > Joe Mays From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 10:52:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05761 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05754 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id MAA15572; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:50:32 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199609051750.MAA15572@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:50:32 -0500 (CDT) Cc: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, winter@jurai.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199609051528.JAA06373@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Sep 5, 96 09:28:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Rodney W. Grimes writes: > > > On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > > > > Linux also has a DPT driver. Maybe it could be ported as a lkm. > > > > > > BSDI has a DPT driver. That would be a better place to start. > > > > BSDI's drive would be a very dangerous place to start unless you are > > familiar with proper ``white room'' techniques to protect yourself > > from copyright infringement. The BSDI code is covered by a strict > > and very inforcable copyright. Even reading the code, and then going > > into another room and writting a drive could lead to copyright violation. > > Actually, no. The BSDi DPT driver was made publically available by DPT, > not by BSDi. I see it on the DPT ftp site...... downloading at a snail pace. It was in /pub/techsup/unix/bsdi21/dpt_eata.tgz ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 14:55:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA23220 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23205 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wave.cyberbeach.net by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA11390 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:54:23 -0700 Received: (from kurt@localhost) by wave.cyberbeach.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id RAA05923 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:36:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Kurt Schafer Message-Id: <199609052136.RAA05923@wave.cyberbeach.net> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Unusual sendmail behavior ? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anybody comment on their experiences with the sendmail daemon. I've noticed that whenever I do a 'ps' I see upwards of 10 sendmail processes going at any given time, and of those, there are always a good number of them that seem to last for several minutes. The /var/spool/mqueue directory yields several 1k message sizes, which I would think sendmail could transfer over a T1 line in a considerrably shorter period of time than 10 minutes or more. I can mail to mailing lists such as these without too much problem, and mail seems to trickle back from them, but I'm taking the paranoid approach on this one because of the importance of a solid mail server. How does the default sendmail.cf file generated with 2.1.5-RELEASE stand up to an ISP workload ? (currently about 1200 active customers) -Kurt From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 16:25:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27715 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GENSTAR2.GENSTAR.NET (genstar2.genstar.net [206.26.67.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27709 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: felix@GenStar.Net Received: from MHS by GENSTAR2.GENSTAR.NET with MHS id BBCDCDCJ ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:35:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:35:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 16:40:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA28373 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sumter.awod.com (awod.com [198.81.225.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28361 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tsunami..awod.com (chsm003.awod.com [206.31.146.203]) by sumter.awod.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA28207; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:39:50 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960905233944.0094aa94@awod.com> X-Sender: klam@awod.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 19:39:44 -0400 To: Kurt Schafer , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Ken Lam Subject: Re: Unusual sendmail behavior ? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 05:36 PM 9/5/96 -0400, Kurt Schafer wrote: > >Can anybody comment on their experiences with the sendmail daemon. I've noticed >that whenever I do a 'ps' I see upwards of 10 sendmail processes going at any >given time, and of those, there are always a good number of them that seem >to last for several minutes. nothing wrong with 10 active processes, I've seen averages of 25 mail processes. >The /var/spool/mqueue directory yields several 1k message sizes, which I would >think sendmail could transfer over a T1 line in a considerrably shorter >period of time than 10 minutes or more. check connectivity to the destinations (ie. port 25 usage via netstat, then do a traceroute or ping). If there is a saturated link...... what is the amount of mail received, perhaps some of your customers have subscribed to very active lists or to every list in the "internet yellow pages". -K --- Ken Lam lam@awod.com Integrated Technical Systems Systems, Networks, and Internet Solutions -- Defining Technology Today "'Plug and Play' was only applicable to the original ATARI(tm)" From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 17:09:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29735 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wave.cyberbeach.net (wave.cyberbeach.net [205.150.79.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA29706 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kurt@localhost) by wave.cyberbeach.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA08289 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:08:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Kurt Schafer Message-Id: <199609060008.UAA08289@wave.cyberbeach.net> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: More sendmail Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The problems with my sendmail config seem to only be for outbound traffic. The most common error that happens on outbound messages is 'Operation timed out during client QUIT with insert.domainname.here' *sigh* From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 18:57:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05147 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itesocci.gdl.iteso.mx (itesocci.gdl.iteso.mx [148.201.1.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05096 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cacho@localhost) by itesocci.gdl.iteso.mx (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA03707; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:55:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:55:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Hector Gonzalez Jaime To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: 2 Cyclades boards in one system? In-Reply-To: <199609060008.UAA08289@wave.cyberbeach.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm trying to use two cyclades boards in the same system, but I couldn't figure out which devices to use for the second board (both are correctly detected, as cy0 and cy1, and I tried several combinations but I don't know which major and minor number go to the second board (1st works ok now) Any Ideas? TIA Hector Gonzalez cacho@itesocci.gdl.iteso.mx From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 19:24:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06367 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.haplink.co.cn ([202.96.192.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06360 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by www.haplink.co.cn (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02164 for isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:27:33 +0900 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:27:33 +0900 From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199609060127.KAA02164@www.haplink.co.cn> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: mail problem Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am confused by the mail command right now. When I login, there is a "You have new mail" message, but when I enter mail command, I get the feedback as "No mail for xiyuan". What's wrong? Best regaurds! --xiyuan From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 19:50:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08033 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA08027 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA12178; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:48:51 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199609060248.TAA12178@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, winter@jurai.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199609051750.MAA15572@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Sep 5, 96 12:50:32 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Rodney W. Grimes writes: > > > > On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > > > > > Linux also has a DPT driver. Maybe it could be ported as a lkm. > > > > > > > > BSDI has a DPT driver. That would be a better place to start. > > > > > > BSDI's drive would be a very dangerous place to start unless you are > > > familiar with proper ``white room'' techniques to protect yourself > > > from copyright infringement. The BSDI code is covered by a strict > > > and very inforcable copyright. Even reading the code, and then going > > > into another room and writting a drive could lead to copyright violation. > > > > Actually, no. The BSDi DPT driver was made publically available by DPT, > > not by BSDi. > > I see it on the DPT ftp site...... downloading at a snail pace. No kidding.... > > It was in /pub/techsup/unix/bsdi21/dpt_eata.tgz THANKS!! Got it, and the copyright is favorable, this is a good place for someone to start. Now, who has one of these beasts??? /* * Copyright (c) 1996 Distributed Processing Technology Corporation * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source form, with or without modification, are * permitted provided that redistributions of source code must retain the * above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * * This software is provided `as is' by Distributed Processing Technology and * any express or implied warranties, including, but not limited to, the * implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, * are disclaimed. In no event shall Distributed Processing Technology be * liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, exemplary or * consequential damages (including, but not limited to, procurement of * substitute goods or services; loss of use, data, or profits; or business * interruptions) however caused and on any theory of liability, whether in * contract, strict liability, or tort (including negligence or otherwise) * arising in any way out of the use of this driver software, even if advised * of the possibility of such damage. * * DPT SCSI host adapter driver * * TODO: * Compute scatter/gather maps when buffers are queued, not when used * Compute CCB's when buffers are queued * Add support for EATA pass through. * Add support for Software RAID-0 over multiple Adapters. Ohhh.. and it is going to take quite a far amount of work to get this ported to FreeBSD. It is a ISA/EISA/PCI driver all rolled into one, so the first thing to do is scrap all that code and just drop in the FreeBSD hooks for the different busses and shove the other code into a common driver. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 21:09:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA17654 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 21:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.win.net (ns2.win.net [204.215.209.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA17642 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 21:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from launchpad.win.net (launchpad@localhost) by ns2.win.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id XAA19966; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:55:37 -0400 Received: by win.net!launchpad; Thu, 05 Sep 1996 23:54:12 X-Mailer: WinNET Mail, v4.0a Message-ID: Reply-To: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org CC: mtague@worldhq.win.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 23:54:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Anyone using ccd (FreeBSD disk striper) for news From: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I was just discussing the possibility of paying someone to develop >> one with my boss last week. We're certainly open to the idea >> here. To my mind the lack of any real RAID solution for FreeBSD is >> the biggest flaw with the OS. If this is a serious suggestion we >> would be very open to pitching in. > ^^^^^^^^^^^ Assuming that the driver will be free >and avilable to everyone we will match you $ for $. If thats what it >takes to bring RAID support to FreeBSD, then why not. This way we can get >what we want and at the same time contribute somthing back to FreeBSD >which has done so much for us, a win-win deal ;-) Of course. We don't care whether or not it's freely available. We just need it. We assume that whatever gets developed will be freely available. The point is this -- if it takes a $1000 to pay someone with a proven freebsd/scsi track record to develop a driver that will let us use a dpt smartraid IV, it's still one hell of a lot less than switching to another platform, porting loads of stuff over, etc. And it's a pittance compared to the cost of most RAID solutions. Frankly, it's money well spent. So yes, we're interested in matching you $ for $. The problem is finding the right person to do it. I'm relatively new to FreeBSD, I have to admit, and don't really know the people working on it. I got an email message from bob@luke.pmr.com who was working on it; here's what he said: >Well, I still have it on my to-do list. Unfortunately(?), I have >been swamped with paying work lately and haven't made much progress >on this project. >I don't believe there is too much that has to be done, so once I >do find some time to work on it I feel it should go pretty quickly. Joe Mays From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 5 21:20:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA19134 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 21:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (root@al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19126 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 21:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07860; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:50:17 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:50:17 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199609060420.NAA07860@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: cacho@itesocci.gdl.iteso.mx, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Cyclades boards in one system? X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <50o1i7$61u@al.imforei.apana.org.au> you wrote: : Hello, I'm trying to use two cyclades boards in the same system, but I : couldn't figure out which devices to use for the second board (both are : correctly detected, as cy0 and cy1, and I tried several combinations but : I don't know which major and minor number go to the second board (1st : works ok now) We use two ISA cyclade 16 ports here (the Ye?) and our first 16 port card has devices... crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 48, 128 May 20 01:11 /dev/cuac00 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 48, 129 May 20 01:11 /dev/cuac01 crw------- 1 Shamgate tty 48, 130 Sep 5 07:52 /dev/cuac02 crw------- 1 Sduke tty 48, 131 Sep 6 13:37 /dev/cuac03 [etc] crw------- 1 Selysium tty 48, 141 Sep 2 17:38 /dev/cuac0d crw-rw-r-- 1 uucp uucp 48, 142 Jul 3 08:59 /dev/cuac0e crw-rw-r-- 1 uucp uucp 48, 143 Aug 5 18:49 /dev/cuac0f and our second had devices... crw-rw-r-- 1 uucp uucp 48, 144 Aug 31 17:00 /dev/cuac10 crw------- 1 Skaty tty 48, 145 Sep 6 06:37 /dev/cuac11 crw------- 1 Pching tty 48, 146 Sep 6 07:47 /dev/cuac12 [etc] crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 48, 157 May 20 01:11 /dev/cuac1d crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 48, 158 May 20 01:11 /dev/cuac1e crw------- 1 root wheel 48, 159 Sep 2 14:27 /dev/cuac1f Also there are the ttyc??, the cualc??, cuaic?? and ttylc??, ttyic?? devices... A listing for port 00 is show before, and you should be able to work out all the devices from there... crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 48, 128 May 20 01:11 /dev/cuac00 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 48, 160 May 20 01:11 /dev/cuaic00 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 48, 192 May 20 01:11 /dev/cualc00 crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 48, 0 May 20 01:11 /dev/ttyc00 crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 48, 32 May 20 01:11 /dev/ttyic00 crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 48, 64 May 20 01:11 /dev/ttylc00 but from memory i'd be using the /dev/MAKEDEV script to do it for ya :) Peter -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds Finger pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au for public PGP key Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object! From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 03:24:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA12984 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA12961 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uyy1v-000QgxC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:20 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA13813; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:54:15 +0200 Message-Id: <199609060954.LAA13813@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: More sendmail To: kurt@cyberbeach.net (Kurt Schafer) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:54:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199609060008.UAA08289@wave.cyberbeach.net> from "Kurt Schafer" at Sep 5, 96 08:08:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kurt Schafer writes: > > > The problems with my sendmail config seem to only be for outbound traffic. The > most common error that happens on outbound messages is > > 'Operation timed out during client QUIT with insert.domainname.here' > > *sigh* > Literally 'insert.domainname.here'? In that case, you need to set up your config files. Have a look at /etc/sysconfig in particular, though this file doesn't contain that text (at least, not on the version I have). You might check the other files in /etc, in particular sendmail.cf. Greg From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 03:31:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA13715 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA13693 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uyyBI-000QgjC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:30 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA13964; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:23:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199609061023.MAA13964@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Unusual sendmail behavior ? To: klam@awod.com (Ken Lam) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:23:35 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960905233944.0094aa94@awod.com> from "Ken Lam" at Sep 5, 96 07:39:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ken Lam writes: > > At 05:36 PM 9/5/96 -0400, Kurt Schafer wrote: >> >> Can anybody comment on their experiences with the sendmail daemon. I've noticed >> that whenever I do a 'ps' I see upwards of 10 sendmail processes going at any >> given time, and of those, there are always a good number of them that seem >> to last for several minutes. > > nothing wrong with 10 active processes, I've seen averages of 25 mail processes. > >> The /var/spool/mqueue directory yields several 1k message sizes, which I would >> think sendmail could transfer over a T1 line in a considerrably shorter >> period of time than 10 minutes or more. > > check connectivity to the destinations (ie. port 25 usage via netstat, then do > a traceroute or ping). If there is a saturated link...... > > what is the amount of mail received, perhaps some of your customers have > subscribed to very active lists or to every list in the "internet yellow pages". To amplify on this statement: to send a message, sendmail spawns a child process, which then goes through all recipients and tries to send the message to them. This can take quite some time if the list is long and contains destinations which are hard to reach, so it's not unusual to find a number of processes active. I just checked freefall and found: === grog@freefall (/dev/ttype) /a/grog 11 -> ps aux|grep sendmail root 12204 2.0 1.9 952 1212 ?? S 3:20AM 0:01.21 sendmail: DAA11645 ft-mailhost.brunel.ac.uk.: client M root 161 0.0 0.2 520 140 ?? Is 25Aug96 1:29.18 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) root 4110 0.0 0.0 556 0 ?? IW 1:00AM 0:00.08 /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -odi -oem -t root 8253 0.0 1.6 952 1000 ?? I 2:40AM 0:01.27 sendmail: WAA24903 real.za.freebsd.org.: client DATA 3 root 8519 0.0 2.6 1396 1616 ?? I 2:44AM 0:05.20 sendmail: CAA08366 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de.: client R root 8922 0.0 2.3 1244 1468 ?? I 2:48AM 0:03.82 sendmail: CAA08594 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de.: client R root 9153 0.0 1.8 816 1116 ?? S 2:50AM 0:00.74 sendmail: WAA24796 real.za.freebsd.org.: client DATA 3 root 9422 0.0 2.1 1080 1308 ?? I 2:52AM 0:02.78 sendmail: CAA08590 mail.jp.freebsd.org.: client RCPT ( root 9837 0.0 2.2 1116 1380 ?? S 2:56AM 0:02.76 sendmail: CAA09584 mail.jp.freebsd.org.: client RCPT ( root 10051 0.4 2.2 1116 1356 ?? S 3:00AM 0:02.53 sendmail: CAA09910 ktnet.ktnet.co.kr.: user open (send root 10210 0.0 2.0 1008 1268 ?? S 3:04AM 0:01.99 sendmail: CAA09567 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de.: client D root 10337 0.0 1.8 912 1136 ?? S 3:08AM 0:00.99 sendmail: CAA09905 mail.jp.freebsd.org.: client RCPT ( root 10407 0.0 1.7 776 1084 ?? I 3:10AM 0:00.52 sendmail: OAA19036 gledek.binus.ac.id.: client DATA 35 root 10525 0.0 1.9 964 1204 ?? I 3:12AM 0:01.51 sendmail: CAA09839 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de.: client D root 11381 0.0 1.7 776 1080 ?? I 3:16AM 0:00.50 sendmail: DAA11277 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de.: client R root 12147 0.0 1.6 636 984 ?? I 3:20AM 0:00.18 sendmail: DAA04692 jojo.kotel.co.kr.: user open (sendm root 12163 0.0 1.6 676 1004 ?? S 3:20AM 0:00.17 sendmail: TAA08041 gledek.binus.ac.id.: client DATA 25 grog 12251 0.0 0.9 288 584 pe S+ 3:20AM 0:00.03 grep sendmail As you can see, sendmail changes its argv values to show who it is trying to contact. This particular display suggests that there are currently network problems to Japan, Korea, and Germany. Greg From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 06:21:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA01790 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA01783 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:20:59 -0700 (PDT) From: felix@GenStar.Net Received: from GENSTAR2.GENSTAR.NET by agora.rdrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0uz0q8-0008rLC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 06:20 PDT Received: from MHS by GENSTAR2.GENSTAR.NET with MHS id AHBODADH ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:31:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:30:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Global Internet Shopping Mall To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry everyone, I made a horrible mistake. I'm moving the server, so went to InterNIC and changed the IPs for the ISOT.COM domain and has taken effect. Currently, the new FreeBSD 2.1 server is not opperational, so there is no way for me to receive my mails. I ended up opening an account with local ISP. Everyone who has sent me an E-Mail past three days, I'd appreciated if you could resend to felix@genstar2.genstar.net. Thanks. Felix. (Global Shopping Mall) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 08:18:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00388 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (root@al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00363; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27734; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:47:27 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199609061517.AAA27734@al.imforei.apana.org.au> Subject: New support for Win95/NT dialup PPP (out of the box) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:47:27 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gday. I've uploaded the following files to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 201 1 88254 Sep 6 08:05 ppp_plus-2.1.x-release.tar.gz -rwxr-xr-x 1 201 1 503 Sep 6 08:06 ppp_plus-2.1.x-release.txt -rwxr-xr-x 1 201 1 90092 Sep 6 08:06 ppp_plus-2.2-current.tar.gz -rwxr-xr-x 1 201 1 503 Sep 6 08:06 ppp_plus-2.2-current.txt They contain drop in replacements (source) for user level ppp (ijppp) that comes with FreeBSD (both 2.1.x's and 2.2-current) They add some extra features, such as allowing the negotation of DNS name servers, and NetBIOS name servers with Microsoft Win95 and WinNT clients running PPP. An additional feature is the ability to allow PAP authentication from the password file. We use this code, in addition with a mgetty-0.99-beta compiled with AUTO_PPP to allow Win95 clients out-of-the-box dialup PPP capabilities. All they need to know is their username/password, and the phone number. No IP's, no DNS crap, no scripts, no junk. Mgetty picks up the phone, autodetects the PPP, passes of the call to ppp which enforces PAP authentication from the password file, and negotiates our DNS servers. Full source included, along with documentation (shit!) in the man page, and some sample scripts/configs that we use. And yes this has been submitted as bin/1494 and i've got the diff's against 2.2-current (as of today) if anyone wants 'em :) Regards, Peter PS. The 2.1.5 stuff has some fixes for problems in the OpenTunnel function (limit of 10 devices - groan), and a few other cosmetics. -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds Finger pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au for public PGP key Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object! From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 10:35:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15794 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from super-g.inch.com (spork@super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15780 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA11841 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:32:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:32:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "S(pork)" X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: 3Com cards/quotas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I recently installed FreeBSD 2.1 and I was really impressed with how easy it was. I just have a few questions dealing with the online documentation; specifically two issues... We almost exclusively run Linux here, and the 3Com cards work great. We like to stick with one vendor/model as much as possible so spares are easy to keep around. In the online handbook, I see the 3C509 has a note next to it that says (buggy). It seems to be OK, but this will be a production machine. What I'm wondering is whether the handbook is referring to 2.1 or 2.1.5 or both and if the driver is truly buggy what might be recommended as far as another ethernet card. Also, there will be user accounts on this box, and I'd like to implement quotas. The handbook has a nice how-to, but in /etc/sysconfig I see a warning about turning on quotas. Is this still flakey, and could anyone recommend whether or not the quota system would be OK on a production machine? I've got a third question as well (sorry): What is the upper limit on the amount of memory FreeBSD 2.1 or 2.1.5 will recognize? Any suggestions on these issues are greatly appreciated... As I mentioned currently 2.1 is installed (made the mistake of going thru InfoMagic instead of Walnut Creek) but I'm open to 2.1.5 as soon as the other CD arrives here... Thanks, Charles Sprickman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Internet Channel SysAdmin Team Internet Channel spork@super-g.com 212-243-5200 spork@inch.com access@inch.com From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 11:11:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17377 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17372 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wave.cyberbeach.net by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA01053 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:09:51 -0700 Received: (from kurt@localhost) by wave.cyberbeach.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA21308 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:51:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Kurt Schafer Message-Id: <199609061751.NAA21308@wave.cyberbeach.net> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Cisco expertise ? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Our former administrator set up some packet firewalling on our gateway router, a Cisco 2501. Unfortunately dial-in users are complaining about not being able to upload large amounts of data outbound. (users are dialed in through Livingston Portmaster 2E's and USR Netserver/16's) But getting back on track. Telnet access to the domain has been completely sealed off. I've got some tech people who are willing to do some trouble shooting in the router but they are in another town and thus they cannot telnet into it. Can anybody point me to the steps necessary to re0en re-enable telnet access to the router ? On a side note, if anybody knows what could be causing the choked uploads that would be fantastic too. Users cannot FTP outbound while dialed up but they can FTP direct to a local unix host on our ether and then telnet to that to FTP out. So I'm at a loss as to where to point fingers. -Kurt l From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 13:53:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00429 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00424 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (lithium@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA17621; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:53:29 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:53:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: "S(pork)" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3Com cards/quotas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running a 2.1R server with a 3c509, it works fine. On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, S(pork) wrote: > I recently installed FreeBSD 2.1 and I was really impressed with how easy > it was. I just have a few questions dealing with the online > documentation; specifically two issues... > > We almost exclusively run Linux here, and the 3Com cards work great. We > like to stick with one vendor/model as much as possible so spares are easy > to keep around. In the online handbook, I see the 3C509 has a note next > to it that says (buggy). It seems to be OK, but this will be a production > machine. What I'm wondering is whether the handbook is referring to 2.1 > or 2.1.5 or both and if the driver is truly buggy what might be > recommended as far as another ethernet card. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 19:27:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21341 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omnisolve.com (omnisolve.com [206.43.0.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA21316; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from val@localhost) by omnisolve.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA05349; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:19:02 GMT From: Valtaire Message-Id: <199609062019.UAA05349@omnisolve.com> Subject: Re: New support for Win95/NT dialup PPP (out of the box) To: pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au (Peter Childs) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:19:01 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199609061517.AAA27734@al.imforei.apana.org.au> from Peter Childs at "Sep 7, 96 00:47:27 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > We use this code, in addition with a mgetty-0.99-beta compiled > with AUTO_PPP to allow Win95 clients out-of-the-box dialup PPP > capabilities. All they need to know is their username/password, > and the phone number. No IP's, no DNS crap, no scripts, no > junk. This is great news for us, 3/4 of tech support is spent dealing with people who cant seem to install the scripts. I just have one stupid question. Where is mgetty-0.99-beta? all i see in the FreeBSD directores is mgetty+sendfax. am i dense? - Joel From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 19:34:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21979 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omnisolve.com (omnisolve.com [206.43.0.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA21922; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from val@localhost) by omnisolve.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA05369; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:26:56 GMT From: Valtaire Message-Id: <199609062026.UAA05369@omnisolve.com> Subject: Re: New support for Win95/NT dialup PPP (out of the box) To: pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au (Peter Childs) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:26:56 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199609061517.AAA27734@al.imforei.apana.org.au> from Peter Childs at "Sep 7, 96 00:47:27 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk eek, i found it. btw, it's in ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/networking/communication/modem/mgetty for anyone else who had the same question :) - Joel From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 21:12:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA01256 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01159; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA01827; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:11:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD graphics Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got bored from this storm and being stuck inside tonight, so I made some graphics if anyone wants them. ftp://riffraff.tioga.net/pub/graphics ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-861-2100 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 6 22:16:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05891 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [140.174.82.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05885 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from muir@localhost) by idiom.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA01572 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:16:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David Muir Sharnoff Message-Id: <199609070516.WAA01572@idiom.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: anyone try Clobberd? does it work? Is it useful? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Path: idiom.com!news1.best.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!liw.clinet.fi!usenet From: jbw@it.ntu.edu.au (James Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: Clobberd-1.1-BETA.tgz - time quotas for ISP's and others Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 13:22:35 GMT Organization: Northern Territory University Lines: 109 Approved: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov (Lars Wirzenius) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello all, This is Jason Nunn here again. I am releasing yet another piece of Linux/Unix software... this time, for the ISP's in mind. If you are running Linux,FreeBSD etc, and are a: - SYSOP operating a commerical Internet Service - A University Operator administering a set of Unix boxes - Admin of an internal commerical system etc Then you may be very interested in "Clobberd". Clobberd is a Linux/Unix daemon that will allow you to quota/regulate Total Time, Daily time, CPU and Memory usage. It was developed on Linux 2.0.0 (POSIX), but with very little effort can be ported to FreeBSD, SunOS, Solaris etc... just ask your local Unix guru ;) Please read on if you are interested. see ya - -- Jason Nunn, Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia "A paintless painting needs alota looking at, inorder to think (about it)" - - Brett W. PS/ This is a BETA release. Even though it's been troughly tested, i am still not convinced that it is bug free, and only 3 people can ever tested it. ======================================================================= Clobberd 1.x Install Jason Nunn (JsNO) | \ FREEWARE, Authorship Reserved 1996 \ Patch level Darwin, Northern Territory, Version AUSTRALIA - -------------------- Clobberd has been written for Internet Service Providers who want to quota their access. For any/all/some of your users, you can quota time per day, and/or sell them a time 'chunk' (so to speak), which they will consume until it runs out, regulate CPU and memory usage at any given time. If a user has exceeded any of the above quotas, Clobberd will boot them off (warning them first of course). Another interesting feature is that Clobberd will allow users to 'telnet' in and find out info from it like their time usage etc. Admin can perform simple maintenance tasks by telneting in as well. To get a full description of what is does, do a 'less clobberd.8'. Where it is uploaded - -------------------- ftp://ftp.funet.fi ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu ftp://ftp.morinda.cs.ntu.edu.au/pub/jsno NB/ my new ftp site on the NTU's unix box may not be ready yet. But i'm told it will be up and running soon. NB/ I don't actually have an email address.. please refer to the manual page or the INSTALL file for lists of people who will pass messages onto me. - -- Cheers, sS$ James $Ss. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Wilson | Bachelor of Science | 'I know why Northern Territory University | Jesus wept | mother fucker.' Email: jbw@it.ntu.edu.au | Homepage: http://www.cs.ntu.edu.au/itss/jbw/chaos.html | - Eric Draven BBS: Methodical Chaos +61 8 89455536 | The Crow - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- {*} Victims, aren't we all? {*} -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMjAlioQRll5MupLRAQEhpwQAtQP85++98fIohfFDr9okUV9C6N90YNZm 9gxngdccfJ4ArOVnCklPFvgkhBcren+GT479W/A91K0VV1GTqYMXX22DPsh8TvPi QVp3q08pHLdiV0S0wJr/fSlaujseF2YFfRTSxJ/I7wcGBN+rYaaP6utPL40q0Fr+ I4pwap0c1V4= =TO82 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This article has been digitally signed by the moderator, using PGP. Finger wirzeniu@kruuna.helsinki.fi for PGP key needed for validating signature. Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 7 01:24:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA15624 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 01:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15611; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 01:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA00356; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:24:19 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA26522; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:23:44 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA08791; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:11:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199609070811.KAA08791@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: New support for Win95/NT dialup PPP (out of the box) To: val@omnisolve.com (Valtaire) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:11:45 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199609062026.UAA05369@omnisolve.com> from Valtaire at "Sep 6, 96 08:26:56 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Valtaire wrote: > eek, i found it. > > btw, it's in ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/networking/communication/modem/mgetty > for anyone else who had the same question :) For those like me with lacking brains, ftp.leo.org does also support ``site index'' queries. ;-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)