From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 27 01:09:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA13930 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA13925 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from karma.idirect.com (enigmanet19.idirect.com [207.136.84.211]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA16337 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 02:54:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3272E0D8.41C67EA6@idirect.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:11:04 +0000 From: Jason Lixfeld X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Setting up caching name service. (Re: rc file discrepency)] References: <3270D7F5.41C67EA6@idirect.com> <32718370.41C67EA6@idirect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I boot up my system.. I get a couple of errors that I'm hoping someone can help me resolve. First error: ;;;/etc/rc - system bootup Starting netowrk daemons: named syslogd: bind: Can't assign requested address named[61]: Starting named LOCAL-960717.011537 ;;;I assume this means it successfully started named named[61]: bind(vs,[0,0,0,0].53): Can't assign requested address ;;; I assume from that, there is a problem with bind. my /etc/host.conf is as folloes # $Id: host.conf,v 1.2 1993/11/07 01:02:57 wollman Exp $ # Default is to use the nameserver first # bind hosts # If that doesn't work, then try the /etc/hosts file # hosts bind # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncomment the next line # nis /etc/sysconfig line for named is: # Set to appropriate flags for named, if you have a full-time # connection to the Internet. # For most hosts, flags should be "-b /etc/namedb/named.boot" # namedflags="NO" namedflags="-b /etc/namedb/named.boot" The only thing I have in /etc/hosts is: 127.0.0.1 localhost.idirect.com localhost What I am trying to do, is to have my computer, karma.idirect.com setup as localhost. Should I have karma.idirect.com in place if localhost.idirect.com?! Because, as it is now, when I telnet localhost, it shoots me over to the dialup machoine at idirect.com that I connected to. I'm not sure what could be causing this problem. Keep in mind that it is a dialup dynamic IP from my ISP. Thanks in advance! Jason Lixfeld From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 27 01:13:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA14099 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA14090 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from karma.idirect.com (enigmanet19.idirect.com [207.136.84.211]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA00758; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 02:58:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3272E19D.167EB0E7@idirect.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:14:21 +0000 From: Jason Lixfeld X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mitayai@dreaming.org CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Setting up caching name service. (Re: rc file discrepency)]]] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------794BDF32446B9B3D2781E494" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------794BDF32446B9B3D2781E494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- UĊ --------------794BDF32446B9B3D2781E494 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <327216E1.41C67EA6@idirect.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:49:21 +0000 From: Jason Lixfeld X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Subject: Re: [Fwd: Setting up caching name service. (Re: rc file discrepency)]] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > > Oi... ok... > > Is the first nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf 127.0.0.1, and if so, what > does 'ifconfig lo0' tell you? > Here is my /etc/resolv.conf: domain=idirect.com # domain=webmedia.ca # nameserver 205.206.21.1 nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 199.166.254.254 nameserver 142.77.1.1 here is the result of typeing ifconfig lo0: lo0: flags=8008 mtu 16384 Thanks.. --------------794BDF32446B9B3D2781E494-- From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 27 09:20:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA02343 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 09:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02335 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 09:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from karma.idirect.com (doomnet25.idirect.com [207.136.87.25]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA11671 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <32736204.167EB0E7@idirect.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:22:12 +0000 From: Jason Lixfeld X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Settingup the time References: <199610271245.EAA22656@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just wondering, with the new time kicking in now, how do I change the time!? The system, I assume is supposed to do it automatically, but it is still reading 1:21pm when it should be 12:21pm! Thanks in advance.. From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 27 11:17:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08073 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from superior.truenorth.org (ppp013-sm2.sirius.com [205.134.231.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08066 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.truenorth.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA00472; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:16:18 -0800 (PST) From: Josef Grosch Message-Id: <199610271916.LAA00472@superior.truenorth.org> Subject: Re: Settingup the time To: carrera@idirect.com (Jason Lixfeld) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:16:17 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Reply-To: jgrosch@sirius.com In-Reply-To: <32736204.167EB0E7@idirect.com> from Jason Lixfeld at "Oct 27, 96 01:22:12 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Just wondering, with the new time kicking in now, how do I change the >time!? The system, I assume is supposed to do it automatically, but it >is still reading 1:21pm when it should be 12:21pm! > >Thanks in advance.. > I had the same problem this morning. I rebooted the system and since the bios on my machine had corrected the time just restarting FreeBSD solved the problem. I am in the habit of rebooting my machine every Sunday morning to clean out the cruft in /tmp and the swap space. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Laugh while you can, monkey boy ! | FreeBSD 2.1.5 jgrosch@sirius.com | - John Warfin - | UNIX for the masses From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 27 11:34:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08735 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08729 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:34:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id LAA14266; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26066; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:34:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199610271934.LAA26066@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Jason Lixfeld cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Settingup the time In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 27 Oct 96 13:22:12 +0000. <32736204.167EB0E7@idirect.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:34:12 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Just wondering, with the new time kicking in now, how do I change the >time!? The system, I assume is supposed to do it automatically, but it >is still reading 1:21pm when it should be 12:21pm! Daylight Savings Time changes at 2:00am... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 27 11:52:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA09870 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09847 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id LAA14605; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26121; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:52:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199610271952.LAA26121@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: jgrosch@sirius.com cc: carrera@idirect.com (Jason Lixfeld), freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Settingup the time In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 27 Oct 96 11:16:17 -0800. <199610271916.LAA00472@superior.truenorth.org> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:52:42 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>Just wondering, with the new time kicking in now, how do I change the >>time!? The system, I assume is supposed to do it automatically, but it >>is still reading 1:21pm when it should be 12:21pm! >I had the same problem this morning. I rebooted the system and since the >bios on my machine had corrected the time just restarting FreeBSD solved >the problem. I am in the habit of rebooting my machine every Sunday morning >to clean out the cruft in /tmp and the swap space. >From the fact that you already found out by now that you have minus 2 hours (daylight savings time changes at 2:00am), you can probably deduce that you shouldn't let your BIOS do that if you're running a Unix-based system (or Windows NT or Windows 95, for that matter) on that machine, or you'll get your time adjusted twice. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 05:19:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA24957 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA24952 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA11344 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:21:09 GMT Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa07388; 28 Oct 96 8:24 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: Steve To: Jason Lixfeld cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Settingup the time In-Reply-To: <32736204.167EB0E7@idirect.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You do realize daylight saving kicks in at 3 or 4 in the morning and not at midnight right? On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > Just wondering, with the new time kicking in now, how do I change the > time!? The system, I assume is supposed to do it automatically, but it > is still reading 1:21pm when it should be 12:21pm! > > Thanks in advance.. > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 08:01:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03571 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from radio.nwpros.com (nwpros.com [205.229.128.214]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03564 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rickbox.nwpros.com (rickbox.nwpros.com [205.229.128.217]) by radio.nwpros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA20336 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:02:53 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961028161211.00687244@nwpros.com> X-Sender: rickg@nwpros.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:12:11 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rick Gray Subject: Hacker solution Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wish to thank everyone for such a quick response for my problem. As I have stated before, the FreeBSD community is one of the best to keep each other informed and offer help to others. I finally deleted the hidden file by using the "" marks. I then changed permissions on the pub directory to read only. I checked my logins and had at one time over 12 people trying to download the pirated proogram....it was nothing more than a game by the way. I guess the pirateer realized that I had caught them and informed their buddies, probably on IRC since there was a suddden rash of trying to downlaod the program. Now I know its sounded strange but somehow while the hackers were logged into FTP, no one else could use FTP. Everyone was getting permission denied messages. After I deleted the file, FTP started working just fine. Thanks for letting me know about mozilla being used by Netscape. I was so diswrought over this incident that I guess I wasn't thinking straight. It is a scare that someone can go into your systme and hide a file from you. I knew it wasn't FreeBSD itself that was hacked into because it is a very secured program. So now I will scour my users' files and see if there is a reference to that file on any of their pages. I somehow suspect it is one of my customers being the culprit. Again thanks all for the quick answers. FBSD is still the best around. Kudos! > > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 09:05:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11693 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from tag01.acnet.net ([167.114.253.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11680 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from site ([167.114.28.211]) by tag01.acnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA06414; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:01:44 -0800 Received: by site with Microsoft Mail id <01BBC4BF.CDAD39A0@site>; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:04:35 -0600 Message-ID: <01BBC4BF.CDAD39A0@site> From: Victor Hugo Velasco Esparza To: "'Graydon Hoare ()'" , "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Hackers Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:37:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk exchange. Delete the files, get checksums on all your inetD daemons, do a find every day on your filesystem for files bigger than a meg that end in .zip or .arj... How I can get a checksum of my inetd deamons? Victor From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 09:26:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA12945 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from house.multinet.net (house.multinet.net [204.138.173.37]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12927 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from graydon@localhost) by house.multinet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA17061; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:25:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:25:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Graydon Hoare ()" To: Victor Hugo Velasco Esparza cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Hackers In-Reply-To: <01BBC4BF.CDAD39A0@site> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Victor Hugo Velasco Esparza wrote: > How I can get a checksum of my inetd deamons? md5 /usr/local/libexec/* >checkfile.old or cksum /usr/local/libexec/* >checkfile.old take checkfile off the machine, on a floppy, or encrypt it and hide it somewhere unsuspicious. next day, diff checkfile.new and checkfile.old. Anyone modifies your daemons, it might give you a clue. Then again, if you have superhackers from hell, maybe they've thought of that... md5 is a lot harder to fake. -graydon __________________________________________________________ I used to think that my brain was the most important organ in my body, but then I realized who was telling me this From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 09:46:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15321 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15308 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from hometown.idirect.com (carrera@hometown.idirect.com [207.136.66.27]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA02657; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:31:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (carrera@localhost) by hometown.idirect.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA03000; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:33:37 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:33:37 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Lixfeld To: Steve cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Settingup the time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hehe.. I was under the impression that it was on Saturday, not sunday. I went to a club, and they said that the bars were staying open 1 hour later due to the time change! :) On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Steve wrote: > > You do realize daylight saving kicks in at 3 or 4 in the morning and not > at midnight right? > > On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > > > Just wondering, with the new time kicking in now, how do I change the > > time!? The system, I assume is supposed to do it automatically, but it > > is still reading 1:21pm when it should be 12:21pm! > > > > Thanks in advance.. > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 10:46:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19394 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rci.ripco.com (root@rci.ripco.com [198.4.164.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19376 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from golden.ripco.com by rci.ripco.com with smtp (Smail3.2 #5) id m0vHwhP-000JurB; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:46:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by golden.ripco.com (Smail3.2 #5) id m0vHwhO-00032RC; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:46:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:46:09 -0600 (CST) From: GRaPHiC ReZiDeW To: "Graydon Hoare ()" cc: Victor Hugo Velasco Esparza , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Hackers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Graydon Hoare () wrote: > On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Victor Hugo Velasco Esparza wrote: > > > How I can get a checksum of my inetd deamons? > > md5 /usr/local/libexec/* >checkfile.old > > or > > cksum /usr/local/libexec/* >checkfile.old > > take checkfile off the machine, on a floppy, or encrypt it and hide it > somewhere unsuspicious. next day, diff checkfile.new and checkfile.old. > > Anyone modifies your daemons, it might give you a clue. Then again, if > you have superhackers from hell, maybe they've thought of that... md5 is > a lot harder to fake. I have only loosely followed this 'thread' and therefor don't know the situation surrounding the subject, but, it would seem to me that if they were "super hackers" he would have no indication that they were in his system in the first place. > > -graydon > __________________________________________________________ > I used to think that my brain was the most important organ > in my body, but then I realized who was telling me this > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Peace, Love, & Lady Bugs" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ - Graphic Rezidew From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 11:30:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24521 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24498 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id LAA11527; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01990; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:30:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199610281930.LAA01990@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Jason Lixfeld cc: Steve , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Settingup the time In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 28 Oct 96 12:33:37 -0500. Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:30:28 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hehe.. I was under the impression that it was on Saturday, not sunday. I >went to a club, and they said that the bars were staying open 1 hour later >due to the time change! :) Probably because the bars normally stay open until 2:00am? >On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Steve wrote: >> You do realize daylight saving kicks in at 3 or 4 in the morning and not >> at midnight right? It gets set back at 2:00am, the last Sunday morning in October. It gets set forward at 2:00am, the first Sunday morning in April. >> On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Jason Lixfeld wrote: >> > Just wondering, with the new time kicking in now, how do I change the >> > time!? The system, I assume is supposed to do it automatically, but it >> > is still reading 1:21pm when it should be 12:21pm! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. 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NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 21:25:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26575 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26568 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hometown.idirect.com (carrera@hometown.idirect.com [207.136.66.27]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA00470 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:10:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (carrera@localhost) by hometown.idirect.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA20516 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:12:18 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:12:18 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Lixfeld To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: HEEEELP!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got a Liiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttle prollem! :) I recently took the advice of an email aquaintance to set my sysconfig with a couple of lines. They are: network_interfaces="lo0" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" This was to try to setup a caching nameserver on my system. After I did this, and rebooted the system, first, during bootup, if stalled at the 'recovering vi sessions', and all the cron processes in the /etc/rc file. I CTRL-C'd out of them, and got to a login prompt. After I logged in, I tried to startup ppp to login to see how things work. I typed ppp, and it did nothing. I thought that it had halted. In fact it did load, it just took a HECK OF A LONG TIME! when usually (As all FreeBSD 2.1.5 users know) it usually takes seconds. Basically, I want to try to keep the caching nameserver, and get PPP working again. Could anyone offer any suggestions, and possibly some solutions to this problem, and maybe some other suggestions that can help streamline my system as far as internet connectivity speed goes! BTW: It's a dialup 28.8 connection. Thanks for any help in advance! Jason Lixfeld From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 22:03:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29754 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:03:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29744 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA04564; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:02:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:02:51 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Jason Lixfeld cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEEEELP!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jason, On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > I got a Liiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttle prollem! :) > > I recently took the advice of an email aquaintance to set my > sysconfig with a couple of lines. They are: > network_interfaces="lo0" > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" That was me, I believe. I'll send you my sysconfig so you can have a look at it. Trouble with caching nameservers is that if you are not connected to the net, you can end up in a dns block. It is the nameserver 127.0.0.1 line in /etc/resolv.conf which has caused this. What I suggest you do is have install the following in /usr/local/bin --- dns-off --- #!/bin/sh if [ -f /etc/resolv.conf ] ; then mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.dns fi --- dns-on --- #!/bin/sh if [ -f /etc/resolv.conf.dns ] ; then mv /etc/resolv.conf.dns /etc/resolv.conf fi And in /etc/netstart, near the top, put /usr/local/bin/dns-off so that you boot up with local dns off. After you have linked to your ISP, run dns-on, and if you disconnect, run dns-off. If anyone else has better ideas, I'd like to hear of them. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 22:10:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00131 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00125 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id XAA03857; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:10:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.ampr.ab.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25577; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:02:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:02:10 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko X-Sender: marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca To: Rick Gray cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hacker solution In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961028161211.00687244@nwpros.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Rick Gray wrote: > Now I know its sounded strange but somehow while the hackers were logged > into FTP, no one else could use FTP. Everyone was getting permission denied > messages. After I deleted the file, FTP started working just fine. "permission denied" messages can cover a lot. However, if you are running something like wu-ftpd then there are limits that can be set on the number of simultaneous connections. If there were a bunch of people trying to download the pirated file, that limit may have been reached. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 28 22:19:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00465 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from noc.msc.edu (noc.msc.edu [137.66.12.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00460 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from uc.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA02546; Tue, 29 Oct 96 00:19:48 -0600 Received: from fergus-3.dialup.prtel.com by uc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0z(901212)) id AA15679; Tue, 29 Oct 96 00:19:46 -0600 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.Think.COM (8.8.2/8.7.3) id AAA15722; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:19:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:19:43 -0600 (CST) From: Tony Kimball Message-Id: <199610290619.AAA15722@compound.Think.COM> To: carrera@idirect.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: HEEEELP!! References: Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Jason Lixfeld on Tue, 29 October: : I got a Liiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttle prollem! :) Yup, a problem: This mail belongs on "questions", not "freebsd-isp". I'm guessing you should also make sure /etc/host.conf looks like this: hosts bind and put all the FQDNs from /etc/ppp/ppp.conf into /etc/hosts. Then it won't try to look them up (and stall waiting to timeout UDP traffic to a nameserver) when ppp runs. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 29 11:07:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA16692 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from europa.arisia.net (europa.arisia.net [207.100.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16686 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:07:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars ([207.100.94.12]) by europa.arisia.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04911 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:10:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961029191034.0090725c@207.100.94.5> X-Sender: msv@207.100.94.5 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:10:34 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "Mark S. Velasquez" Subject: **News not expiring** Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yeah I know I'm being a pain, but ... My News Server running on FreeBSD 2.1.5 is not expiring news correctly(in fact I've never been able to get it follow the expire.ctl correctly). After struggling to get this server to honor the expiration times, I decided to scrap the history* files, newfs the /var/spool/news and start again(of course I had to recover from a boot disk failure as well!); I assumed my problems stem from a corrupted history database. Anyway, my news spool still fills up. I've set alt.binaries.* to expire in three days, however, there are definitely articles in the alt.binaries that are five days old. The expire.ctl is as follows : /remember/:14 # # use expire to remove deleted newsgroups immediately # *:A:0:0:0 *:U:0:7:31 *:M:0:14:365 # keep for 7 days *:A:1:7:7 ## keep the binaries newsgroups for 3 days only # alt.binaries.*:A:1:3:3 Any sugestions are appreciated. TIA Mark S. Velasquez From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 29 11:35:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18309 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18303 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id MAA09018; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:35:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.ampr.ab.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00454; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:32:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:32:39 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko X-Sender: marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca To: "Mark S. Velasquez" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: **News not expiring** In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961029191034.0090725c@207.100.94.5> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Mark S. Velasquez wrote: > > Yeah I know I'm being a pain, but ... > > My News Server running on FreeBSD 2.1.5 is not expiring news correctly(in > fact I've never been able to get it follow the expire.ctl correctly). > > After struggling to get this server to honor the expiration times, I > decided to scrap the history* files, newfs the /var/spool/news and start > again(of course I had to recover from a boot disk failure as well!); I > assumed my problems stem from a corrupted history database. > > Anyway, my news spool still fills up. I've set alt.binaries.* to expire in > three days, however, there are definitely articles in the alt.binaries that > are five days old. News spools always fill up. With the exception of the error detailed below WRT trying to make news in deleted newsgroups expire right away, your expire.ctl looks fine. Are you sure the articles in alt.binaries.* which are older than 3 + however long it is since your last expire started (remember, if you set things to expire in 3 days and run expire once a day then by the time expire gets to running, you will have four days of news, of which expire will delete one) aren't crossposted? Since crossposted articles use hard or symbolic links, expire keeps all links until the one with the longest expire time should be deleted, then deletes them all. There is a patch around somewhere to change this behavior. > > The expire.ctl is as follows : > > /remember/:14 > # > # use expire to remove deleted newsgroups immediately > # > *:A:0:0:0 > *:U:0:7:31 > *:M:0:14:365 > # keep for 7 days > *:A:1:7:7 You are saying: - remove all right now - except for all unmoderated groups, leave them 7 days - except for moderated groups, leave them 14 days - except for all groups, leave them 7 days. Your last line overrides the previous three. > ## keep the binaries newsgroups for 3 days only > # > alt.binaries.*:A:1:3:3 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 29 11:50:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19152 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19113 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:50:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id NAA24755; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:48:55 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199610291948.NAA24755@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: **News not expiring** To: msv@arisia.net (Mark S. Velasquez) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:48:55 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961029191034.0090725c@207.100.94.5> from "Mark S. Velasquez" at Oct 29, 96 02:10:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Anyway, my news spool still fills up. I've set alt.binaries.* to expire in > three days, however, there are definitely articles in the alt.binaries that > are five days old. > > The expire.ctl is as follows : > > /remember/:14 > # > # use expire to remove deleted newsgroups immediately > # > *:A:0:0:0 > *:U:0:7:31 > *:M:0:14:365 > # keep for 7 days > *:A:1:7:7 > ## keep the binaries newsgroups for 3 days only > # > alt.binaries.*:A:1:3:3 Are these articles crossposted to groups which are not in alt.binaries.*? They will be held onto longer, if they are.. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 29 13:41:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26023 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:41:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from europa.arisia.net (europa.arisia.net [207.100.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26017 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:41:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars ([207.100.94.12]) by europa.arisia.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05238 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:44:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961029214422.00903f90@207.100.94.5> X-Sender: msv@207.100.94.5 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:44:22 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "Mark S. Velasquez" Subject: Re: **News not expiring** Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all that suggested Cross-Posting might be the culprit. I checked some of the articles older than 4 days, and they were not cross-posted. Any other suggestions ? I assume no onelse running on FreeBSD has seen this behaviour(ie.; ist not somehow related to FreeBSD ?). Just for fun I tried an "expire -x -s -t -w +2", to see what it should expire in a few days, and it listed very few alt.binaries articles( a total of 500+K would be expired ). With nearly 2GB of alt.binaries coming in per day, I expected to see a few GBs worth listed. Again, thanks for all the help. Mark S. Velasquez From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 29 17:30:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17790 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17785 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id SAA25055; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:30:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.ampr.ab.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02061; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:24:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:24:06 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko X-Sender: marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca To: "Mark S. Velasquez" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: **News not expiring** In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961029214422.00903f90@207.100.94.5> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Mark S. Velasquez wrote: > Thanks to all that suggested Cross-Posting might be the culprit. > > I checked some of the articles older than 4 days, and they were not > cross-posted. And you are aware that, by default, expiry is done based on arrival time, not posting time? From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 05:38:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA20291 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nevis.oss.uswest.net (nevis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA20272 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from greg@localhost) by nevis.oss.uswest.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA12649; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:37:38 -0600 From: "Greg Rowe" Message-Id: <9610300737.ZM12647@nevis.oss.uswest.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:37:37 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Mark S. Velasquez" "Re: **News not expiring**" (Oct 29, 4:44pm) References: <2.2.32.19961029214422.00903f90@207.100.94.5> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: "Mark S. Velasquez" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: **News not expiring** Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is alt.binaries a link to a separate filesystem ? If so, there are changes to expirerm, innstat, and news.daily that need to be made. The INN FAQ documents the changes. Greg On Oct 29, 4:44pm, Mark S. Velasquez wrote: > Subject: Re: **News not expiring** > Thanks to all that suggested Cross-Posting might be the culprit. > > I checked some of the articles older than 4 days, and they were not > cross-posted. > > Any other suggestions ? I assume no onelse running on FreeBSD has seen this > behaviour(ie.; ist not somehow related to FreeBSD ?). > > Just for fun I tried an "expire -x -s -t -w +2", to see what it should > expire in a few days, and it listed very few alt.binaries articles( a total > of 500+K would be expired ). With nearly 2GB of alt.binaries coming in per > day, I expected to see a few GBs worth listed. > > Again, thanks for all the help. > > Mark S. Velasquez > >-- End of excerpt from Mark S. Velasquez -- Greg Rowe | U S West - Interact Services | INTERNET greg@uswest.net 111 Washington Ave. South | Fax: (612) 672-8537 Minneapolis, MN USA 55401 | Voice: (612) 672-8535 Never trust an operating system you don't have source for.... From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 06:48:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA02940 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:48:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from europa.arisia.net (europa.arisia.net [207.100.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA02927 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars ([207.100.94.12]) by europa.arisia.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07301 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:51:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961030145147.00921940@207.100.94.5> X-Sender: msv@207.100.94.5 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:51:47 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org From: "Mark S. Velasquez" Subject: Re: **News not expiring** Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:37 AM 10/30/96 -0600, you wrote: >Is alt.binaries a link to a separate filesystem ? If so, there are changes to >expirerm, innstat, and news.daily that need to be made. The INN FAQ documents . Greg, No, /var/spool/news, is a metadevice(using ccd : three quantum 4.3 GB 7200RPM SCSI drives, newfs-ed with "-i 2048"). Mark S. Velasquez From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 07:13:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08372 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from radio.nwpros.com (nwpros.com [205.229.128.214]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA08358 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rickbox.nwpros.com (rickbox.nwpros.com [205.229.128.217]) by radio.nwpros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA29492 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:15:32 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961030152446.0067c544@nwpros.com> X-Sender: rickg@nwpros.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:24:46 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rick Gray Subject: Unsubscribe Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe. ************************************************ Rick Gray Soon-to-be Ex-Director of Internet Services Network Pros, Inc. rickg@nwpros.com (713)780-5900 (713)780-5931 FAX "It is a good day to die." ----Klingon Philosophy ************************************************ From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 07:18:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA09078 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from radio.nwpros.com (nwpros.com [205.229.128.214]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09069 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rickbox.nwpros.com (rickbox.nwpros.com [205.229.128.217]) by radio.nwpros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA29500 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:20:32 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961030152946.0067759c@nwpros.com> X-Sender: rickg@nwpros.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:29:46 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rick Gray Subject: The End of NWPros Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My boss has come in an told me just to axe the internet completely as of today. I had no arguements that would convince her otherwise. She didn't have the balls to even alow our commercial accounts time to find a new provider. So by this evening we close the book on Network Pros. I wish to thank all the FreeBSD community for helping me in times of trouble and taking the time to point me in the right direction when I was lost. I can't stress enough the family-type atmosphere that is given by this group. I gonna miss you guys. Farewell until I get a new job. ************************************************ Rick Gray Soon-to-be Ex-Director of Internet Services Ex-Network Pros, Inc. (713)780-5900 (713)780-5931 FAX "It is a good day to die." ----Klingon Philosophy ************************************************ From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 08:32:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA27109 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA27054 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from hometown.idirect.com (carrera@hometown.idirect.com [207.136.66.27]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA28106 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:17:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (carrera@localhost) by hometown.idirect.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA10648 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:19:22 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:19:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Lixfeld To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: caching nameserver problems... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Recently, at the suggestion of an email, I attmepted to setup a caching nameserver on my FreeBSD 2.1.5 system. I'm having a bit of trouble.. First off: When I finished all of the updates for the caching nameserver, I rebooted the system. Everything went fine, until the rc file took over. It was running OK, until it got to 'Clearing vi sessions'. The system appeared to halt, but that was not the case. It just took literally 5 minutes for it to do these checks, it then proceeded to give me the login prompt. This was curious as it was fine up to the point that I added in the updates for the caching nameserver. I logged in, and typed 'ppp' to start ppp, this too took over 5 minutes to do anything but show the program credits. Everything appears to work FINE, it's just that there is lag from something. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be appreciated. BTW: I have the /etc/sysconfig setup for ifconfigging 'inet localhost' (It was previously set to 'inet 127.0.0.1') and it configures lo0 ok. I'm also running named, and it too appears to be in good working order (As everything shows as ok when the system boots up). Thanks again.. Jason Lixfeld From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 10:31:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19199 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:31:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19186 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21368; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:31:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:31:38 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: jmg@nike Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Jason Lixfeld cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: caching nameserver problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > Recently, at the suggestion of an email, I attmepted to setup a caching > nameserver on my FreeBSD 2.1.5 system. I'm having a bit of trouble.. > > First off: When I finished all of the updates for the caching nameserver, > I rebooted the system. Everything went fine, until the rc file took > over. It was running OK, until it got to 'Clearing vi sessions'. The > system appeared to halt, but that was not the case. It just took > literally 5 minutes for it to do these checks, it then proceeded to give > me the login prompt. This was curious as it was fine up to the point that > I added in the updates for the caching nameserver. I logged in, and typed > 'ppp' to start ppp, this too took over 5 minutes to do anything but show > the program credits. Everything appears to work FINE, it's just that > there is lag from something. > > If anyone has any suggestions, it would be appreciated. this sounds like you have bind before hosts in your /etc/resolv.conf... move hosts before that... and make sure that all your names you use are listed in /etc/hosts... > BTW: I have the /etc/sysconfig setup for ifconfigging 'inet localhost' > (It was previously set to 'inet 127.0.0.1') and it configures lo0 ok. I'm > also running named, and it too appears to be in good working order (As > everything shows as ok when the system boots up). hope this helps... ttyl.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 11:19:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23252 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (rwc@cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23243 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA00016; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:19:16 -0500 From: Richard Cramer Message-Id: <199610301919.OAA00016@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, iap@vma.cc.nd.edu, dclinux@wauug.erols.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:19:16 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warning to ALL! We just got off the phone with Sony Tech Support re: their SCSI DAT Drive, Model No. SDT-5000/BM & SDT-5200/BM and a problem we were having with a new drive we just received from TechDATA. Sony said they did not support any "Unix" operating system, specifically Linux and FreeBSD which were "shareware" (obviously he doesn't know what shareware is). Unless we wished to discuss problems found on Windows, Windows95, or WindowsNT he could offer no help!! I hope everyone in the "Unix" environment takes note of their position and reacts appropriately with their buying decisions. Richard Cramer -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 11:44:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24531 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24517 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:44:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id NAA26366; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:43:43 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199610301943.NAA26366@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! To: rwc@cscfx.sytex.com (Richard Cramer) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:43:42 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, iap@vma.cc.nd.edu, dclinux@wauug.erols.com In-Reply-To: <199610301919.OAA00016@cscfx.sytex.com> from "Richard Cramer" at Oct 30, 96 02:19:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Warning to ALL! > > We just got off the phone with Sony Tech Support re: their SCSI DAT Drive, > Model No. SDT-5000/BM & SDT-5200/BM and a problem we were having with a > new drive we just received from TechDATA. Sony said they did not support > any "Unix" operating system, specifically Linux and FreeBSD which were > "shareware" (obviously he doesn't know what shareware is). Unless we wished > to discuss problems found on Windows, Windows95, or WindowsNT he could offer > no help!! > > I hope everyone in the "Unix" environment takes note of their position and > reacts appropriately with their buying decisions. Their loss, since the real demand for DAT storage solutions is the higher end computing environments, where Microsoft products are typically viewed as desktop toys. That could change if somebody could give me a $200 4MM DAT drive with reasonably high storage capacity... but Sony is not the player I would be betting on to achieve this goal. I agree with the philosophy of not buying from cruddy vendors with bad attitudes, but I will also remind you that the various UNIX variants around (both commercial and noncommercial) have typically done a good job of supporting hardware despite the manufacturers. Not that I am encouraging anyone to buy this thing... ;-) ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 12:14:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26095 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26084 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03593; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:14:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199610302014.MAA03593@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! In-Reply-To: <199610301919.OAA00016@cscfx.sytex.com> from Richard Cramer at "Oct 30, 96 02:19:16 pm" To: rwc@cscfx.sytex.com (Richard Cramer) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:14:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, iap@vma.cc.nd.edu, dclinux@wauug.erols.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Warning to ALL! > > We just got off the phone with Sony Tech Support re: their SCSI DAT Drive, > Model No. SDT-5000/BM & SDT-5200/BM and a problem we were having with a > new drive we just received from TechDATA. Sony said they did not support > any "Unix" operating system, specifically Linux and FreeBSD which were > "shareware" (obviously he doesn't know what shareware is). Unless we wished > to discuss problems found on Windows, Windows95, or WindowsNT he could offer > no help!! Whom did you talk with at Sony? I'll cut my buyer lose on them and explain that as an OEM I'll be blacklisting there products from all systems for actions like this. > > I hope everyone in the "Unix" environment takes note of their position and > reacts appropriately with their buying decisions. So noted, Sony DAT products just got removed from my proposed new product offerings. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 12:25:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26983 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from tdc.on.ca (tdc.on.ca [204.92.242.39]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26972 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:25:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by tdc.on.ca (8.7.5/8.6.6) id PAA14698; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:23:48 -0500 (EST) From: Martin Renters Message-Id: <199610302023.PAA14698@tdc.on.ca> Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:23:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: rwc@cscfx.sytex.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, iap@vma.cc.nd.edu, dclinux@wauug.erols.com In-Reply-To: <199610301943.NAA26366@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Oct 30, 96 01:43:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > We just got off the phone with Sony Tech Support re: their SCSI DAT Drive, > > Model No. SDT-5000/BM & SDT-5200/BM and a problem we were having with a > > new drive we just received from TechDATA. Sony said they did not support > > any "Unix" operating system, specifically Linux and FreeBSD which were > > "shareware" (obviously he doesn't know what shareware is). Unless we wished > > to discuss problems found on Windows, Windows95, or WindowsNT he could offer > > no help!! > > I agree with the philosophy of not buying from cruddy vendors with bad > attitudes, but I will also remind you that the various UNIX variants > around (both commercial and noncommercial) have typically done a good > job of supporting hardware despite the manufacturers. I don't know about the SDT-5[02]00/BM model, but I have used just the SDT-5[02]00 model without any problems since the FreeBSD 1.1 days. About the only problem I've noticed is that if you have a tape written with hardware compression, it couldn't be read if the jumper on the back of the drive isn't set for compression. There are SCSI commands to enable/disable this independent of the jumper setting, but the FreeBSD driver doesn't use them as far as I know. I do have a SCSI hardware manual for the drive, although I no longer have the drive (it was a loaner drive). Martin From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 14:12:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04336 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:12:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04329 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA02811; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:12:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:12:14 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199610302212.RAA02811@crh.cl.msu.edu> To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! Newsgroups: lists.freebsd.isp References: <558dnl$cop@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In lists.freebsd.isp you write: >> Warning to ALL! >> >> We just got off the phone with Sony Tech Support re: their SCSI DAT Drive, >> Model No. SDT-5000/BM & SDT-5200/BM and a problem we were having with a >> new drive we just received from TechDATA. Sony said they did not support >> any "Unix" operating system, specifically Linux and FreeBSD which were >> "shareware" (obviously he doesn't know what shareware is). Unless we wished >> to discuss problems found on Windows, Windows95, or WindowsNT he could offer >> no help!! >Whom did you talk with at Sony? I'll cut my buyer lose on them and >explain that as an OEM I'll be blacklisting there products from all >systems for actions like this. >> >> I hope everyone in the "Unix" environment takes note of their position and >> reacts appropriately with their buying decisions. >So noted, Sony DAT products just got removed from my proposed new product >offerings. That is a mistake. Because of one bad tech rep you blacklist a company? Give me a break, the Sony SDT-5000 DAT drives are the best I've ever come across, having used Exabyte, HP, Archive, and Sony's... -Crh -- Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 14:21:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04767 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04744 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03778; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:20:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199610302220.OAA03778@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! In-Reply-To: <199610302212.RAA02811@crh.cl.msu.edu> from Charles Henrich at "Oct 30, 96 05:12:14 pm" To: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:20:31 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In lists.freebsd.isp you write: > > >> Warning to ALL! > >> > >> We just got off the phone with Sony Tech Support re: their SCSI DAT Drive, > >> Model No. SDT-5000/BM & SDT-5200/BM and a problem we were having with a > >> new drive we just received from TechDATA. Sony said they did not support > >> any "Unix" operating system, specifically Linux and FreeBSD which were > >> "shareware" (obviously he doesn't know what shareware is). Unless we wished > >> to discuss problems found on Windows, Windows95, or WindowsNT he could offer > >> no help!! > > >Whom did you talk with at Sony? I'll cut my buyer lose on them and > >explain that as an OEM I'll be blacklisting there products from all > >systems for actions like this. > > >> > >> I hope everyone in the "Unix" environment takes note of their position and > >> reacts appropriately with their buying decisions. > > >So noted, Sony DAT products just got removed from my proposed new product > >offerings. > > That is a mistake. Because of one bad tech rep you blacklist a company? Yep! Especially when I already have a product that covers that market, they come right off the ``lets go look at the folks and bring thier product in list'' without even another word... > Give > me a break, the Sony SDT-5000 DAT drives are the best I've ever come across, > having used Exabyte, HP, Archive, and Sony's... Glad to here you are happy with thier product, by why should I go look at it if their attitude is ``not to support Shareware OS's'' when my whole business is based on just that? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 14:22:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04831 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04824 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA02883; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:22:23 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199610302222.RAA02883@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:22:23 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199610302220.OAA03778@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at "Oct 30, 96 02:20:31 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > That is a mistake. Because of one bad tech rep you blacklist a company? > > Yep! Especially when I already have a product that covers that market, > they come right off the ``lets go look at the folks and bring thier > product in list'' without even another word... > >> Give >> me a break, the Sony SDT-5000 DAT drives are the best I've ever come across, >> having used Exabyte, HP, Archive, and Sony's... > > Glad to here you are happy with thier product, by why should I go look at > it if their attitude is ``not to support Shareware OS's'' when my whole > business is based on just that? Firstly, your dealing with second hand information, I would hope you would investigate yourself. Secondly you do not know that that is "Their attitude", that could be just some bozo talking. And third, I never cut off my nose just to spite my face. I've never seen a more reliable or faster DAT drive than the Sony. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 15:07:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08169 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from noc.msc.edu (noc.msc.edu [137.66.12.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA08163 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:07:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from uc.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA02775; Wed, 30 Oct 96 17:07:44 -0600 Received: from fergus-27.dialup.prtel.com by uc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0z(901212)) id AA14491; Wed, 30 Oct 96 17:07:42 -0600 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.Think.COM (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA06195; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:07:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:07:39 -0600 (CST) From: Tony Kimball Message-Id: <199610302307.RAA06195@compound.Think.COM> To: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! Newsgroups: lists.freebsd.isp References: <558dnl$cop@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <199610302212.RAA02811@crh.cl.msu.edu> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Charles Henrich on Wed, 30 October: : Because of one bad tech rep you blacklist a company? No, because of demonstrated enmity for essential principles of human cooperation, I will boycott not only Sony DAT drives, but Sony TVs, radios, etc. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 16:15:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA11618 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11613 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA22536 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:29:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA21793 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:11:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:11:48 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! In-Reply-To: <199610302307.RAA06195@compound.Think.COM> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Tony Kimball wrote: > Quoth Charles Henrich on Wed, 30 October: > : Because of one bad tech rep you blacklist a company? > > No, because of demonstrated enmity for essential principles of human > cooperation, I will boycott not only Sony DAT drives, but Sony TVs, > radios, etc. I'm going to stop buying SONY music CD's too. In fact, tonight I will take my Gloria Estefan discs outside and blast them to smithereens with a shotgun. And you can be sure that this shotgun is not made by SONY. ;-) Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 16:46:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13515 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from clarknet.clark.net (clarknet.clark.net [168.143.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13508 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by clarknet.clark.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23925; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:45:57 +0500 >Received: by phzzzt.atww.org (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0vIl6X-0002cbC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 19:35 EST Received: from phzzzt by clarknet.clark.net; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:45 EST Received: by phzzzt.atww.org (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0vIl6X-0002cbC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 19:35 EST Received: (from alan@localhost) by mattress.atww.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA00383; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:33:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:33:29 -0500 (EST) From: "A. Reichert" To: Richard Cramer Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, iap@vma.cc.nd.edu, dclinux@wauug.erols.com Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! In-Reply-To: <199610301919.OAA00016@cscfx.sytex.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Richard Cramer wrote: > Warning to ALL! > > We just got off the phone with Sony Tech Support re: their SCSI DAT Drive, > Model No. SDT-5000/BM & SDT-5200/BM and a problem we were having with a > new drive we just received from TechDATA. Sony said they did not support > any "Unix" operating system, specifically Linux and FreeBSD which were > "shareware" (obviously he doesn't know what shareware is). Unless we wished > to discuss problems found on Windows, Windows95, or WindowsNT he could offer > no help!! > > I hope everyone in the "Unix" environment takes note of their position and > reacts appropriately with their buying decisions. Noted with a large magic marker! - Alan From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 16:47:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13546 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13539 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id TAA03367; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:46:51 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199610310046.TAA03367@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! To: alk@Think.COM (Tony Kimball) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:46:51 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199610302307.RAA06195@compound.Think.COM> from Tony Kimball at "Oct 30, 96 05:07:39 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Quoth Charles Henrich on Wed, 30 October: > : Because of one bad tech rep you blacklist a company? > > No, because of demonstrated enmity for essential principles of human > cooperation, I will boycott not only Sony DAT drives, but Sony TVs, > radios, etc. Classic case of lopping off your nose to spite your face... I.e. its stupid. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 17:30:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15968 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15962 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA23507 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:44:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA22366 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:26:22 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:26:20 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! In-Reply-To: <199610310046.TAA03367@crh.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Charles Henrich wrote: > > Quoth Charles Henrich on Wed, 30 October: > > : Because of one bad tech rep you blacklist a company? > > > > No, because of demonstrated enmity for essential principles of human > > cooperation, I will boycott not only Sony DAT drives, but Sony TVs, > > radios, etc. > > Classic case of lopping off your nose to spite your face... I.e. its stupid. You can be sure that the straight razor being used for this job is *NOT* made by SONY. Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 17:50:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17228 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from m4.sprynet.com (m4.sprynet.com [165.121.1.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17223 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux.max5.com (dbotton@ad62-101.compuserve.com [199.174.191.101]) by m4.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA09226 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:48:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:59:12 -0500 (EST) From: David Botton To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! In-Reply-To: <199610302307.RAA06195@compound.Think.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Tony Kimball wrote: > Quoth Charles Henrich on Wed, 30 October: > : Because of one bad tech rep you blacklist a company? > > No, because of demonstrated enmity for essential principles of human > cooperation, I will boycott not only Sony DAT drives, but Sony TVs, > radios, etc. > Only with the collective efforts of the Freeware world will corporations take our efforts seriously, and that means a response to those who don't invest enough in educating there personnel to understand the difference between Shareware and Freeware. Corporations like Sony stand to gain the most from the efforts of Freeware to prevent Monolithic Mega Corporations from controlling all facets of our life not just what software and hardware we may use. Big Brother is watching and with patience and perseverance, he will control. BTW, just to give you an idea, there is now a version of Windows called Windows NC for embedded systems. Expect it in your toaster soon..... David Botton President --------------------------------------- M A X 5 Business and presentation software. --------------------------------------- If I am not for me who will be for me; If I am for myself what am I; If not now when. -- Rabbi Hillel From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 18:50:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19531 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19526 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from karma.idirect.com (glimpsenet4.idirect.com [207.136.85.4]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02807; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:50:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:51:41 +0000 () From: Jay Lixfeld To: John-Mark Gurney cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: caching nameserver problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > > > > > > this sounds like you have bind before hosts in your /etc/resolv.conf... > > > move hosts before that... and make sure that all your names you use are > > > listed in /etc/hosts... > > > > > > > Great! I'll give it a try! I'm pretty sure that it is bind, then hosts > > in /etc/resolv.conf tho!?! > > that is the default.... with hosts first it will check /etc/hosts before > going to the name server (to then fail)... let me know if it works.... > ttyl.. > > John-Mark > > gurney_j@efn.org > http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ > Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) > > Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) > > Well, if you look below, you will see my /etc/host.conf file: # $Id: host.conf,v 1.2 1993/11/07 01:02:57 wollman Exp $ # Default is to use the nameserver first # bind hosts # If that doesn't work, then try the /etc/hosts file # hosts bind # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncomment the next line # nis It originally said bind before hosts. I changed it as per the person who told me about caching nameservers. It is setup correctly.. here is the lines in my /etc/rc that cause the system to lag.. it looks as tho sendmail is screwing things up. I thing that it is trying to send mail somewhere, but can't because the network connection is not made yet because it is dialup!: This is the first place it hangs.. # Recover vi editor files. virecovery=`echo /var/tmp/vi.recover/recover.*` if [ "$virecovery" != '/var/tmp/vi.recover/recover.*' ]; then echo 'Recovering vi editor sessions' for i in $virecovery; do sendmail -t < $i done fi After 5 minutes or so, it moves on to the second hanging point which is: # $sendmail_flags is imported from /etc/sysconfig; # if $sendmail_flags is something other than NO, sendmail is run. if [ "X${sendmail_flags}" != X"NO" -a -r /etc/sendmail.cf ]; then echo -n ' sendmail'; /usr/sbin/sendmail ${sendmail_flags} fi As you can see, sendmail is in both those lines. I beleive it is sendmail, but I have no idea how to fix it! HELP! :) Jason Lixfeld From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 19:46:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21951 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21938 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from karma.idirect.com (glimpsenet4.idirect.com [207.136.85.4]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA21299 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:46:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:47:43 +0000 () From: Jay Lixfeld To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: X11R6 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know that I will probably be repremanded for posting this message here, but I don't know where else to put it... I'm having a single, small problem with X11. I am on a dialup 28.8 connection with my FreeBSD 2.1.5 box. Apparently, the only way that I can run X11 is to have a ppp connection established. All I want to know is if there is any way that I can load X11 without having to dialup my ISP, or turning on my modem even, for that matter! Thanks in advance, and I apoligize for the content! Jason Lixfeld From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 21:23:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27890 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from noc.msc.edu (noc.msc.edu [137.66.12.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA27883 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from uc.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA01954; Wed, 30 Oct 96 23:23:27 -0600 Received: from fergus-27.dialup.prtel.com by uc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0z(901212)) id AA16698; Wed, 30 Oct 96 23:23:25 -0600 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.Think.COM (8.8.2/8.7.3) id XAA11055; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:23:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:23:24 -0600 (CST) From: Tony Kimball Message-Id: <199610310523.XAA11055@compound.Think.COM> To: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SONY DAT DRIVES - NOT SUPPORTED for "UNIX" - BUYER BEWARE !!! References: <199610302307.RAA06195@compound.Think.COM> <199610310046.TAA03367@crh.cl.msu.edu> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Charles Henrich on Wed, 30 October: : Classic case of lopping off your nose to spite your face... I.e. its stupid. Classic case of a compound prisoner's dilemma, and my strategy is the globally optimal strategy. Globally optimal != stupid. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 30 22:33:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA03283 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03277 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00423; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:33:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:33:28 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: jmg@nike Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Jay Lixfeld cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: caching nameserver problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Jay Lixfeld wrote: > Well, if you look below, you will see my /etc/host.conf file: > > # $Id: host.conf,v 1.2 1993/11/07 01:02:57 wollman Exp $ > # Default is to use the nameserver first > # bind > hosts > # If that doesn't work, then try the /etc/hosts file > # hosts > bind > # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncomment the next line > # nis > > It originally said bind before hosts. I changed it as per the person who > told me about caching nameservers. It is setup correctly.. here is > the lines in my /etc/rc that cause the system to lag.. it looks as tho > sendmail is screwing things up. I thing that it is trying to send mail > somewhere, but can't because the network connection is not made yet > because it is dialup!: > > This is the first place it hangs.. > > # Recover vi editor files. > virecovery=`echo /var/tmp/vi.recover/recover.*` > if [ "$virecovery" != '/var/tmp/vi.recover/recover.*' ]; then > echo 'Recovering vi editor sessions' > for i in $virecovery; do > sendmail -t < $i > done > fi > > After 5 minutes or so, it moves on to the second hanging point which is: > > # $sendmail_flags is imported from /etc/sysconfig; > # if $sendmail_flags is something other than NO, sendmail is run. > if [ "X${sendmail_flags}" != X"NO" -a -r /etc/sendmail.cf ]; then > echo -n ' sendmail'; /usr/sbin/sendmail > ${sendmail_flags} > fi > > As you can see, sendmail is in both those lines. I beleive it is > sendmail, but I have no idea how to fix it! make sure that the results of hostname is listed in /etc/hosts... hope this fixes it... ttyl... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 00:51:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA09252 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from npc.haplink.co.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09247 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by npc.haplink.co.cn (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA14887 for isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:56:06 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:56:06 GMT From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199610311656.QAA14887@npc.haplink.co.cn> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Need help on sysconfig and the other config files with 2.1.5? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have upgraded my box from 2.1.0 to 2.1.5-stable using CTM method. I know there is some changed with the config files. Can someone do me a favour to send the files to me or tell me where I can get them? Best regaurds! --xiyuan From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 03:54:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA22927 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from escape.cs.ibank.ru (escape.cs.ibank.ru [194.58.131.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA22879; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from igor@localhost) by escape.cs.ibank.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3/Zynaps) id OAA23317; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:51:11 +0300 (MSK) From: Igor Vinokurov Message-Id: <199610311151.OAA23317@escape.cs.ibank.ru> Subject: DBMS front-end To: Sergio@ibank.ru, Lenzi@ibank.ru, Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:51:11 +0300 (MSK) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk re, Could you suggest to me any DBMS client for FreeBSD? I want to use remote SQL server (Informix/MSSQL/etc) from by FreeBSD box. Possible? -- Igor Vinokurov From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 05:23:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA02539 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from esimene.cynet.net.au (esimene.cynet.net.au [203.24.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA02529 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:23:44 -0800 (PST) From: mikel@sales.net.au Received: from warpy (warpy.cynet.net.au [203.24.16.9]) by esimene.cynet.net.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00319 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 00:22:30 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199610311322.AAA00319@esimene.cynet.net.au> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 96 00:22:56 +1100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Subnets and virtual IP X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.16 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk G'Day all, After successfully configuring virtual services (thanks to this list) I am running out of IPs in my current subnet. I have a single class C split 4 ways with 255.255.255.192 designated for this type of usage. Network 1 currently contains all the ISP hosts as well as our local LAN hosts. Network 1 also has our Livingston Portmaster (203.24.16.2) that is acting as the primary gateway for that subnet. The server that is hosting the virtual stuff is 203.24.16.1, all virtual servers are currently also located in this subnet, this server has only one ethernet card, ed0. Network 2 has been allocated as a .192 subnet to a client's LAN running our of a serial port on the Livingston Network 3 has been allocated as a to another client through another serial port on the Livingston Network 4 is currently unused and I would like to use it to host the virtual domain IP alias addresses. Now... as I am spanning subnets, a simple: ifconfig ed0 alias 203.24.16.200 netmask 255.255.255.255 will not work as I won't be able to route to it as no default route has been added from this subnet (.0) to that subnet (.192) The question is. What do I need to do to tell the FreeBSD 2.1.5 box (on 203.24.16.1) that it's virtual hosts are on network 192 and are all on it's one ethernet card I have not got gated and routed coinfigured on the 2.1.5 machine as the Livingston to this point has provided all routing and gateway functions. Regards, Mikel -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Mikel Lindsaar | "The dream is the foundation, mikel@cynet.net.au | of our society!" ----------------------------------------------------------- Cynet! The Business ISP! http://www.cynet.net.au/ Hardly Normal Internet Sales! http://sales.net.au/ ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 06:37:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA10711 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.research.megasoft.com (gw.research.megasoft.com [206.230.35.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA10700; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gw.research.megasoft.com (8.7.5/8.7.3-cmcurtin) id JAA04174; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:35:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from goffette.research.megasoft.com(192.168.1.2) by gw.research.megasoft.com via smap (V1.3) id sma004169; Thu Oct 31 09:34:58 1996 Received: by goffette.research.megasoft.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id JAA23777; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:29:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:29:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199610311429.JAA23777@goffette.research.megasoft.com> From: C Matthew Curtin To: Igor Vinokurov Cc: Sergio@ibank.ru, Lenzi@ibank.ru, , questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DBMS front-end In-Reply-To: <199610311151.OAA23317@escape.cs.ibank.ru> References: <199610311151.OAA23317@escape.cs.ibank.ru> X-Face: "&>g(&eGr?u^F:nFihL%BsyS1[tCqG7}I2rGk4{aKJ5I_5A\*6RYn4"N.`1pPF9LO!Fa<(gj:12)?=uP2l01e10Gij"7j&-)torL^iBrNf\s7PDLm=rf[PjxtSbZ{J(@@j"q2/iV9^Mx>>>> "Igor" == Igor Vinokurov writes: Igor> re, Could you suggest to me any DBMS client for FreeBSD? I want Igor> to use remote SQL server (Informix/MSSQL/etc) from by FreeBSD Igor> box. Possible? Whether this is appropriate for your application is up to you. There isn't enough information here to really say for sure. But here goes. For many cases of DBMS access, I like to write Perl code that will perform whatever functions you're looking for. Very often in my case, it's a good idea to put a web-based front end on everything, so that users can have a nice point-and-click type of view of their data, generate custom reports, etc. There's a lot of good stuff in Perl that will make development of such things pretty painless. You'll want to check out the Perl modules, specifically the ones for database access, and CGI scripting. http://www.perl.com/perl/ -- Matt Curtin cmcurtin@research.megasoft.com Megasoft, Inc Chief Scientist http://www.research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/ I speak only for myself. Hacker Security Firewall Crypto PGP Privacy Unix Perl Java Internet Intranet From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 07:17:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13785 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.ejka.se ([194.251.83.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13779 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gimli.EJKA.SE (gimli.ejka.se [194.251.83.4]) by gandalf.ejka.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA26099 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:18:00 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961031151615.00a19370@mail.ejka.se> X-Sender: jerker@mail.ejka.se X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:16:15 +0100 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jerker Klang Subject: ftpd Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I nead a ftpd tahat logs the ano. users email account and check it. Is there anny god one out ther? // Jerker _______ __|_____|__ ( @ @ ) ===============oOOo-(_)-oOOo===================== | Jerker Klang | EJKA IT system AB | | Jerker@ejka.se | EJKA Konsult AB | ========================Oooo===================== oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 08:34:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18791 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from noc.msc.edu (noc.msc.edu [137.66.12.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18783 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from uc.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA03811; Thu, 31 Oct 96 10:33:54 -0600 Received: from fergus-28.dialup.prtel.com by uc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0z(901212)) id AA29616; Thu, 31 Oct 96 10:33:52 -0600 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.Think.COM (8.8.2/8.7.3) id KAA12379; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:33:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:33:49 -0600 (CST) From: Tony Kimball Message-Id: <199610311633.KAA12379@compound.Think.COM> To: Jerker@ejka.se Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ftpd References: <2.2.32.19961031151615.00a19370@mail.ejka.se> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Jerker Klang on Thu, 31 October: : Is there anny god one out ther? Shema yisrael: Elohim elohenu, Elohim echad! From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 11:36:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01216 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01208 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hometown.idirect.com (carrera@hometown.idirect.com [207.136.66.27]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA05552 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:36:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (carrera@localhost) by hometown.idirect.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA20294 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:22:52 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hometown.idirect.com: carrera owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:22:52 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Lixfeld To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FTP setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I recently ftp'd to my FreeBSD 2.1.5 system, 'just for the heck of it' and I noticed that when I logged in as myself (Not root) that I got a directory listing of eVERYTHING! From this, I can conclude that FTP needs to be setup. Could someone tell me HOW, or give me some MAN pages to read?! Thanks.. Jason Lixfeld From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 11:39:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01370 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01351 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id NAA28495; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:37:27 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199610311937.NAA28495@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Subnets and virtual IP To: mikel@sales.net.au Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:37:26 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199610311322.AAA00319@esimene.cynet.net.au> from "mikel@sales.net.au" at Nov 1, 96 00:22:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > G'Day all, > > After successfully configuring virtual services (thanks to this list) I am > running out of IPs in my current subnet. > > I have a single class C split 4 ways with 255.255.255.192 designated for > this type of usage. > > Network 1 currently contains all the ISP hosts as well as our local LAN > hosts. Network 1 also has our Livingston Portmaster (203.24.16.2) that is > acting as the primary gateway for that subnet. The server that is hosting > the virtual stuff is 203.24.16.1, all virtual servers are currently also > located in this subnet, this server has only one ethernet card, ed0. > > Network 2 has been allocated as a .192 subnet to a client's LAN running > our of a serial port on the Livingston > > Network 3 has been allocated as a to another client through another serial > port on the Livingston > > Network 4 is currently unused and I would like to use it to host the > virtual domain IP alias addresses. > > > Now... as I am spanning subnets, a simple: > > ifconfig ed0 alias 203.24.16.200 netmask 255.255.255.255 > > will not work as I won't be able to route to it as no default route has > been added from this subnet (.0) to that subnet (.192) > > The question is. What do I need to do to tell the FreeBSD 2.1.5 box (on > 203.24.16.1) that it's virtual hosts are on network 192 and are all on > it's one ethernet card Give the FIRST (and only the first) alias a netmask. ifconfig ed0 alias 203.24.16.192 netmask 255.255.255.192 ifconfig ed0 alias 203.24.16.193 netmask 255.255.255.255 ifconfig ed0 alias 203.24.16.194 netmask 255.255.255.255 ... That creates another "network". ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 13:31:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08870 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoom.bga.com (root@zoom.realtime.net [205.238.128.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08846 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from wep54-133 (wep54-133.camel.com [204.251.34.204]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA04557 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:31:03 -0600 Message-ID: <327919DB.1625@camel.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:27:55 -0600 From: d b dews X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: newbie question on dial-in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can I use FreeBSD only to provide a PPP connection to people dialing in by modem using stock term software (Telix, Procomm, etc)? From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 15:35:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA16839 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:35:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from m4.sprynet.com (m4.sprynet.com [165.121.1.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16790 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from local.com (dd75-090.compuserve.com [199.174.212.90]) by m4.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA18073; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:33:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199610312333.PAA18073@m4.sprynet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jesse" Organization: Brown Computing To: d b dews Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:32:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: newbie question on dial-in CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Jesse" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: d b dews > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org > Subject: newbie question on dial-in > modem using stock term software (Telix, Procomm, etc)? > Standard term software willnot emulate a PPP connection (exept for some new windows stuff.). To get PPP they must dial-in with a PPP dialer. If it is DOS, you are talking about Klos's PPP stack. With Windows 3.1x, Trumpet Winsock. With Win95, the built in PPP dialer. Hope this helps! ------------------------------------------ Brown Computer Repair. Phone (805) 942-1391 Pager (805) 267-9511 E-mail bextreme@sprynet.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 19:44:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12358 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from m4.sprynet.com (m4.sprynet.com [165.121.1.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12353 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux.max5.com (dbotton@ad62-101.compuserve.com [199.174.191.101]) by m4.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA27994; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:42:33 -0800 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 22:53:30 -0500 (EST) From: David Botton To: Jason Lixfeld cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > Hi, > > I recently ftp'd to my FreeBSD 2.1.5 system, 'just for the heck of > it' and I noticed that when I logged in as myself (Not root) that I got a > directory listing of eVERYTHING! From this, I can conclude that FTP needs > to be setup. Could someone tell me HOW, or give me some MAN pages to > read?! When you FTP using your user name and password, ftpd puts you into your home directory w/ appropriate r/w rights. David Botton From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 31 21:49:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA20384 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pop01.ny.us.ibm.net (pop01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20379 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by pop01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id FAA27513; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 05:49:17 GMT Message-Id: <199611010549.FAA27513@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreebSD ISP list" Date: Sat, 02 Nov 96 00:48:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Francisco Reyes's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Need provider Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need two providers: -ISP for the (212) or (718) area code. I am looking for a static IP address. I am also interested in having a good news feed. All I need is a few OS/2 groups, FreeBSD groups and comp.databases.informix. As long as you carry those groups I need I don't care if you have 1000 or 15,000 groups. -WEB hosting provider. Preferably a company that is not an ISP. Last time I was looking for a web hosting provider I got many replies, but after having spend days looking at URLs I chose one. Unfortunately they were not responsive so I am forced to go back and search again. Some of the characteristics we need: -FreeBSD Based servers -T1 or higher connection to the internet. Preferably more than one connection to the internet for redundancy. -Good customer service. I don't need phone support, but if I send and email to request new service (ie more space) I hope to hear from someone within a week. Even if it is just to tell me that the request will take weeks to process. With the web provider I tried it took them 3 weeks to even read my email. Even worse they did not take the time to read what I was requesting so they ended up telling me to use their automated upgrade system even though it could not do what I needed. -Backup of our pages -CGI. -Some form of database such as msql. -Domain hosting -Email accounts with their POP mailboxes. -Access statistics to our pages From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 1 02:28:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA16003 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.dlc.fi (pegasus.dlc.fi [194.251.35.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15994 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from raccoon@localhost) by pegasus.dlc.fi (8.7.6/8.7.3) id MAA25864; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:28:30 +0200 (EET) From: "Antti Rytsola" Message-Id: <9611011228.ZM25860@pegasus.dlc.fi> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:28:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: d b dews "newbie question on dial-in" (Oct 31, 3:27pm) References: <327919DB.1625@camel.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: d b dews , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newbie question on dial-in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART-BOUNDARY=.19611011228.ZM25860.dlc.fi" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --PART-BOUNDARY=.19611011228.ZM25860.dlc.fi Content-Description: Text Content-Type: text/plain ; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Zm-Decoding-Hint: mimencode -q -u > Can I use FreeBSD only to provide a PPP connection to people dialing in= > by modem using stock term software (Telix, Procomm, etc)? Sure. It's the client's problem if they can do nothing with it.. *grin*. -- = Antti Ryts=F6l=E4 Data Link Connections raccoon@dlc.fi = = --PART-BOUNDARY=.19611011228.ZM25860.dlc.fi-- From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 1 04:26:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA25058 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from wgserv.cpl.net (137-2.ironlight.com [207.177.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA25051 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:26:16 -0800 (PST) From: avatar@cpl.net Message-Id: <199611011226.EAA25051@freefall.freebsd.org> To: isp@freebsd.org Date: 1 Nov 1996 01:45:20 PST Subject: Cor Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This probably doesnt belong on isp-freebsd, but it's the only mailing list I am subscribed to right now. But could someone tell me if there is a way to keep root from getting all the cron messages? Any time cron processes something, it sends the output of whatever it did to root. I would like to forward all of root's email to myself(incase someone actually sends email to that account). But I really don't want to get 100's of emails a day to go thru... thanks. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 1 06:01:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05200 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.dlc.fi (pegasus.dlc.fi [194.251.35.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05195 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from raccoon@localhost) by pegasus.dlc.fi (8.7.6/8.7.3) id QAA00027; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:00:46 +0200 (EET) From: "Antti Rytsola" Message-Id: <9611011600.ZM22@pegasus.dlc.fi> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:00:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: avatar@cpl.net "Cor" (Nov 1, 1:45am) References: <199611011226.EAA25051@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: avatar@cpl.net, isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART-BOUNDARY=.19611011600.ZM22.dlc.fi" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --PART-BOUNDARY=.19611011600.ZM22.dlc.fi Content-Description: Text Content-Type: text/plain ; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Zm-Decoding-Hint: mimencode -q -u > a way to keep root from getting all the cron messages? Any time cron > processes something, it sends the output of whatever it did to root. I Make sure that the cron process outputs nothing to stdout or stderr, like putting > /dev/null into the command line. -- = Antti Ryts=F6l=E4 Data Link Connections raccoon@dlc.fi = = --PART-BOUNDARY=.19611011600.ZM22.dlc.fi-- From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 1 10:20:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10446 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10423 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19117; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:19:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:19:25 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: jmg@nike Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: avatar@cpl.net cc: isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cor In-Reply-To: <199611011226.EAA25051@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 1 Nov 1996 avatar@cpl.net wrote: > This probably doesnt belong on isp-freebsd, but it's the only mailing > list I am subscribed to right now. But could someone tell me if there is > a way to keep root from getting all the cron messages? Any time cron > processes something, it sends the output of whatever it did to root. I > would like to forward all of root's email to myself(incase someone > actually sends email to that account). But I really don't want to get > 100's of emails a day to go thru... > thanks. modify /etc/aliases and run newaliases... ttyl... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 1 10:56:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19019 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.idirect.com (root@nemesis.idirect.com [207.136.80.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18987 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:56:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (grimnet25.idirect.com [205.206.17.25]) by nemesis.idirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA16685 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:56:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:57:54 +0000 () From: Jay Lixfeld X-Sender: carrera@localhost To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Tape Drive.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Connor 850 Internal TapeBAckup. I want to know how to configure it to work with FreeBSD 2.1.5. Can anyone offer me some help on this?! Thanks in advance.. Jason Lixfeld From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 1 11:54:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25085 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from itchy.mosquito.com (itchy.mosquito.com [206.205.132.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25079 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:54:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from boot@localhost) by itchy.mosquito.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA11469 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:55:33 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Bauman Message-Id: <199611011955.OAA11469@itchy.mosquito.com> Subject: weird mail problem To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:55:33 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have customers who can send mail fine, but as soon as they try to send an attachment, it hangs. It doesn't matter if they are using Eudora or Netscape to send the mail. What could cause this behavior? Other things work fine. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 1 15:59:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA09287 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:59:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.durham.net (www.durham.net [207.81.58.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09253 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deanf@localhost) by www.durham.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21205; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:03:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:03:07 -0500 (EST) From: Dean Forester To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Livingston Radius 2 Daemon Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Has anyone got the Livingston Radius 2 Daemon running on FreeBSD 2.2X yet? I have managed to get it compiled but it core dumps as soon as an authentication request come in. I am running 3 PM2e-30's with COM OS 3.3.3 and FreeBSD 2.2-961006-SNAP. Thanks In Advance, Dean Forester President, Durham.Net Inc. p.s. Livingston mentions in their mailing list that they do not plan to support FreeBSD, and yet they are supporting Linux??? I know that there is a lot of Linux based systems out there, but is there not more FreeBSD systems installed in the ISP industry? From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 2 04:24:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA24641 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from wgserv.cpl.net (137-2.ironlight.com [207.177.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA24623 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:24:31 -0800 (PST) From: avatar@cpl.net Message-Id: <199611021224.EAA24623@freefall.freebsd.org> To: isp@freebsd.org Date: 2 Nov 1996 00:23:14 PST Subject: cron Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Would just like to say thanks for all the quick replies for helping with Cron. :) I think adding > /dev/null to the end of everything that outputs, fixed it... I thought I had done that before, but I guess not. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 2 09:22:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29439 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from whale.gu.kiev.ua ([194.93.190.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29406; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from creator.gu.kiev.ua (stesin@creator.gu.kiev.ua [194.93.190.3]) by whale.gu.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA78926; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:22:06 +0200 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:22:06 +0200 (EET) From: Andrew Stesin X-Sender: stesin@creator.gu.kiev.ua To: hackers@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org cc: gated@gated.merit.edu Subject: Gated (both 3.5b3 and 3.6a2) on FreeBSD woes: no OSPF Hello startup :( Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: ua.gu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello dear Gated and FreeBSD hackers, wouldn't you mind looking into this strange problem, please? The simplified setup is: an ethernet segment which I want to become an OSPF area; and several boxes -- Linux, BSDI, and one FreeBSD 2.2-960612-SNAP machine (a very stable SNAP, never seen any problem with it before), all are to become interarea routers later. Now I just wish to setup internal interaction between all the routers on the ether, inside a single area. While Linux and BSDI with Gated 3.6a2 are interacting Ok one with another, FreeBSD box with 3.5b3 didn't want to take part in OSPF Hello negotiation -- the ether was full of "Hello timer mismatch" messages. Ok, I thought; I'd take 3.6a2 to FreeBSD, too. It was easy, thanks A LOT for this work to John Capo who did the port of a new Gated already: > I'm running 3.6a2 on one -current system and two -stable systems. > A port is at ftp://ftp.irbs.com/FreeBSD/ports/gated-3.6a2.tgz. > John Capo jc@irbs.com > IRBS Engineering FreeBSD Servers and Workstations > (954) 792-9551 Unix/Internet Consulting - ISP Solutions But new Gated (which is really superior to the older ones due to many reasons) didn't cure the problem :( BSDI and Linux are still seeing one another nicely, but they can't see FreeBSD; and FreeBSD sees only messages like this (here is the trace snippet from FreeBSD), so the three boxes aren't able to start cooperative interaction. Nov 2 19:16:54 Nov 2 19:16:54 OSPF RECV Area 194.93.190 194.93.190.2 -> 224.0.0.5: HELLO: hello timer mismatch Nov 2 19:16:57 OSPF RECV 194.93.190.5(ed0) -> 224.0.0.5 Hello Vers: 2 Len: 48 Nov 2 19:16:57 OSPF RECV RouterID: 194.93.190.5 Area: 194.93.190 Checksum: 0x7a2b Nov 2 19:16:57 OSPF RECV Auth: Type: 0 Key: 00000000.00000000 Nov 2 19:16:57 OSPF RECV Netmask: 255.255.255.128 Hello Int: 10 Options: Nov 2 19:16:57 OSPF RECV Pri: 10 DeadInt: 40 DR: 194.93.190.5 BDR: 194.93.190.2 Nov 2 19:16:57 OSPF RECV Attached routers: 194.93.190.2 Nov 2 19:16:57 Nov 2 19:16:57 OSPF RECV Area 194.93.190 194.93.190.5 -> 224.0.0.5: HELLO: hello timer mismatch Nov 2 19:17:04 OSPF RECV 194.93.190.2(ed0) -> 224.0.0.5 Hello Vers: 2 Len: 48 Nov 2 19:17:04 OSPF RECV RouterID: 194.93.190.2 Area: 194.93.190 Checksum: 0x7a2b Nov 2 19:17:04 OSPF RECV Auth: Type: 0 Key: 00000000.00000000 Nov 2 19:17:04 OSPF RECV Netmask: 255.255.255.128 Hello Int: 10 Options: Nov 2 19:17:04 OSPF RECV Pri: 10 DeadInt: 40 DR: 194.93.190.5 BDR: 194.93.190.2 Nov 2 19:17:04 OSPF RECV Attached routers: 194.93.190.5 Nov 2 19:17:04 194.93.190.5 is Linux, 194.93.190.2 is BSDI. Can anyone help me? Seems that something is wrong with FreeBSD here -- or with it's admin (me :) Any hints suggestions and comments are appreciated! Thanks! -- Best, Andrew Stesin nic-hdl: ST73-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 2 14:21:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29589 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sergio.lenzi ([200.247.23.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29554; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by sergio.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00523; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 20:21:06 GMT Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 20:21:04 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@sergio To: Igor Vinokurov cc: Sergio@ibank.ru, questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DBMS front-end In-Reply-To: <199610311151.OAA23317@escape.cs.ibank.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Igor Vinokurov wrote: > re, > > Could you suggest to me any DBMS client for FreeBSD? I want to > use remote SQL server (Informix/MSSQL/etc) from by FreeBSD box. > Possible? > > -- > Igor Vinokurov > Difficult task as the vendors of dbms I tryed does not opens the internals for me to build such a interface. Here in Brazil, companies are seeking for high performance software and low price. I am offering FreeBSD whith a postgres95 dbms. as a data base. WWW/CGI as a tool to access the dmbs via windows/FreeBSD/Linux/Apple... For developing applications, I am trying PHP or PYTHON both in the form of a www server module. The languages have access to the postgres95 database and are very fast and reliable. Indeed, I am offering a Bank automation based in this tecnology. using COMPAQ servers running FreeBSD. Is a small bank and the whole system costs 1/5 of a one running Sybase. Sergio Lenzi. Unix consult. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 2 23:52:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04273 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from diablo.intergate.bc.ca (root@diablo.intergate.bc.ca [205.206.192.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04268 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:52:12 -0800 (PST) From: paulc@diablo.intergate.bc.ca Received: from beel.intergate.bc.ca (beel@pm10s20.intergate.bc.ca [205.206.194.95]) by diablo.intergate.bc.ca (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA03126 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:31:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961102234439.009bdd80@mail.intergate.bc.ca> X-Sender: paulc@mail.intergate.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 23:44:50 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe