From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 24 00:18:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA03358 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from news.interworld.net (news.interworld.net [206.124.224.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03352 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by news.interworld.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA08700; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:17:56 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Path: news.interworld.net!not-for-mail From: pete@news.interworld.net (Peter Carah) Newsgroups: freebsd.isp Subject: Re: Decision in Router Purchase Date: 24 Nov 1996 00:17:54 -0800 Organization: InterWorld Communications Lines: 43 Distribution: fbsd Message-ID: <5790bi$8fj@news.interworld.net> References: <199611141724.LAA25419@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199611141724.LAA25419@brasil.moneng.mei.com>, Joe Greco wrote: > >> On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Veggy Vinny wrote: ....... >> Go with the cisco! There is something just a bit off with freebsd's >> tcp/ip. I have a subgroup of users who get stalls, if my freebsd's are >> not the other side of my cisco from them. For instance, if they were to >> pull headers from a new server on the same subnet, the news server being >> freebsd, it would stop.. Same with web pages. > >One of my clients is an ISP with well over a thousand (local) lines, >they have not reported any such problems to me... the news servers >are FreeBSD. >Just a data point, For another data point, we had a somewhat similar problem that turned out to have been caused by a bad ethernet hub. I'd suspect that a lot of tcp/ip problems are really bad ethernet configurations (too many cascaded hubs, bad hubs, bad wire, etc etc...) All of our hosts are either freebsd or macs (all using the newer open-transport except for one). BTW, it was a BEAR to find... Main symptom was out-of-sequence tcp retry packets, there was not any obvious excess of collisions either detected or not ("late collision" is often one not detected by the hub. I don't know if any of the freebsd drivers give that report.). My only problems with Bay AN routers is that they won't take enough ram to do a full 2-carrier peering anymore. I suspect that a 2501 won't either... Doesn't help that the backbone carriers are bickering over direct-peering with each other and that 2 of the biggest now refuse to transit :-( *THAT* wasn't anywhere in the "vision" of the internet... (fixes things up so that our cooperative backup arrangement with another similar-sized isp (2 T1's vs 1 T1 and a 10mb connection) doesn't work because one of the T1 carriers won't accept our bgp routes to the other isp. so much for backup :-( -- Pete From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 24 15:17:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18560 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from inetsrv.wtrt.net (inetsrv.wtrt.net [205.231.181.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18515 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from allen (ppp20.wtrt.net [205.231.181.90]) by inetsrv.wtrt.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA20258 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:18:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611242318.RAA20258@inetsrv.wtrt.net> From: "Allen Hyer" To: Subject: upgrading hard drives Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:17:13 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a freebsd 2.1.5-Release box with a 1gb IDE hard drive. I want to switch it to a 4gb SCSI hard drive. What is the easiest way to transfer the whole system from the old drive to the new one? Thanks, Allen Hyer System Administrator West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 24 16:31:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22819 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:31:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from tbd.gfoster.com (155.dumbo.intr.net [207.32.94.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22813 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gfoster@localhost) by tbd.gfoster.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA04417; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:28:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:28:31 -0500 (EST) From: Glen Foster Message-Id: <199611250028.TAA04417@tbd.gfoster.com> To: allenh@wtrt.net CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199611242318.RAA20258@inetsrv.wtrt.net> (allenh@wtrt.net) Subject: Re: upgrading hard drives Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Summary first, more detail about each step below: 1) make sure your kernel supports your SCSI controller, build and install one that does if you need to do so 2) power down 3) install the SCSI card and drive 4) boot DOS and install a DOS partition (AKA slice) table using fdisk 5) boot FreeBSD (single-user) off your IDE drive 6) BSD partition the FreeBSD slice on the SCSI disk with the partition sizes you want, installing boot blocks using disklabel(8). Make notes for step 9 below 7) make file systems on the ufs partitions using newfs(8) 8) use a dump/restore pipe to copy your IDE partitions to your SCSI partitions 9) edit the /etc/fstab file to change wd0 references to sd0 references 10) powerdown 11) remove IDE drive, turn off IDE in CMOS 12) boot off SCSI, you're done Addl. explanation: 4) not absolutely necc., you can BSD label the entire disk in 6) (AKA "dangerously dedicated" mode) but it can be tricky to write the label to the disk as the area it is written to is r/o by default. I forget the steps you need to take to do it but you can find them in the mailing list archives. To use DOS fdisk you would create a DOS partition for the entire disk and then delete it before going to step 5). 6) you may want to print out the man page for disklabel(8) before doing this 7&8) e.g.: # newfs /dev/rsd0a # mount /dev/sd0a /mnt # dump 0fs - 10000000 | (cd /mnt ; restore rf -) # umount /mnt If you need more explanation than that I'd be happy to try and help you. Glen Foster >From: "Allen Hyer" >Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:17:13 -0600 > > I have a freebsd 2.1.5-Release box with a 1gb IDE hard drive. I want to >switch it to a 4gb SCSI hard drive. What is the easiest way to transfer >the whole system from the old drive to the new one? > >Thanks, >Allen Hyer >System Administrator >West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 24 21:03:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA04768 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from inetsrv.wtrt.net (inetsrv.wtrt.net [205.231.181.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA04763 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from allen (ppp20.wtrt.net [205.231.181.90]) by inetsrv.wtrt.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA22674; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:04:40 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611250504.XAA22674@inetsrv.wtrt.net> From: "Allen Hyer" To: "Glen Foster" Cc: Subject: Re: upgrading hard drives Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:03:30 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Glen, Thanks, that worked great. I ran into a couple of stumbling blocks, but was able to work through them. Mostly just my inexperience. Thanks again, Allen Hyer System Administrator West Texas Rural Telephone ---------- > From: Glen Foster > To: allenh@wtrt.net > Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: upgrading hard drives > Date: Sunday, November 24, 1996 6:28 PM > > Summary first, more detail about each step below: > > 1) make sure your kernel supports your SCSI controller, build and > install one that does if you need to do so > 2) power down > 3) install the SCSI card and drive > 4) boot DOS and install a DOS partition (AKA slice) table using fdisk > 5) boot FreeBSD (single-user) off your IDE drive > 6) BSD partition the FreeBSD slice on the SCSI disk with the partition > sizes you want, installing boot blocks using disklabel(8). Make > notes for step 9 below > 7) make file systems on the ufs partitions using newfs(8) > 8) use a dump/restore pipe to copy your IDE partitions to your SCSI > partitions > 9) edit the /etc/fstab file to change wd0 references to sd0 references > 10) powerdown > 11) remove IDE drive, turn off IDE in CMOS > 12) boot off SCSI, you're done > > Addl. explanation: > > 4) not absolutely necc., you can BSD label the entire disk in 6) (AKA > "dangerously dedicated" mode) but it can be tricky to write the > label to the disk as the area it is written to is r/o by default. > I forget the steps you need to take to do it but you can find them > in the mailing list archives. To use DOS fdisk you would create a > DOS partition for the entire disk and then delete it before going > to step 5). > > 6) you may want to print out the man page for disklabel(8) before > doing this > > 7&8) e.g.: > > # newfs /dev/rsd0a > # mount /dev/sd0a /mnt > # dump 0fs - 10000000 | (cd /mnt ; restore rf -) > # umount /mnt > > If you need more explanation than that I'd be happy to try and help > you. > > Glen Foster > > >From: "Allen Hyer" > >Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:17:13 -0600 > > > > I have a freebsd 2.1.5-Release box with a 1gb IDE hard drive. I want to > >switch it to a 4gb SCSI hard drive. What is the easiest way to transfer > >the whole system from the old drive to the new one? > > > >Thanks, > >Allen Hyer > >System Administrator > >West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 08:18:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03456 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03411 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from crunch.io.org (crunch.io.org [198.133.36.156]) by post.io.org (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00549 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:18:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:18:44 -0500 (EST) From: Matt of the Long Red Hair Reply-To: Matt of the Long Red Hair To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid question no 10101 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, John Capo wrote: > If your wire is not secure and you are not filtering at a router > then copying the password file via an encrypted link is your only > option. A good way to do this is with ssh, a replacement for telnet,rlogin,rsh, etc. which encrypts all connections. You could scp (secure rcp) your password files from machine to machine. ssh is available as a FreeBSD port, BTW. Check your local mirror. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew Pounsett (MP1229) Internet Canada/Internex Online mattp@ican.net / mattp@io.org "In some small towns there is a rule that consultants can't serve as volunteer firemen. The fear is that they'd drive around setting fire to the town." -- Scott Adams From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 08:43:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA10705 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunfire.ucs.net (root@sunfire.ucs.net [199.224.7.165]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10673 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (afurman@localhost) by sunfire.ucs.net (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01971 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:38:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:38:07 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Furman To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Paging utilty for FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a good paging utility for FreeBSD can anyone suggest. Adam Adam Furman System Administrator of Sunfire.ucs.net afurman@amf.net Irc HUB Admin of irc.ucs.net Mud Admin of sunfire.ucs.net:4000 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 09:12:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17751 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nimbus.superior.net (root@nimbus.superior.net [206.153.96.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17725 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from exidor@localhost) by nimbus.superior.net (8.7.6/8.7.5) id MAA07454; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:12:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251712.MAA07454@nimbus.superior.net> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:12:13 -0500 From: exidor@superior.net (Christopher Masto) To: afurman@sunfire.ucs.net (Adam Furman) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Paging utilty for FreeBSD References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.48.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: ; from Adam Furman on Nov 25, 1996 11:38:07 -0500 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Adam Furman writes: > I'm looking for a good paging utility for FreeBSD can anyone suggest. "paging" only has 600 meanings, but I guess you're looking for something to send messages to numeric or alphanumeric pagers. HylaFax can do that and a lot more. It's rather tricky to set up, though, but we use it here and it's great. Incoming faxes get printed or e-mailed depending on where they came from, outgoing faxes and pages can be sent from web pages, etc. -- Christopher Masto . . . . Superior Net Support: support@superior.net chris@masto.com . . . . . Masto Consulting: info@masto.com On Book Titles, Confidence-Building: "Correctly English in 100 Days" - title from an East ASian book for beginning English speakers From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 09:37:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23292 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from www (quicklink.com [204.32.218.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23257 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-017.quicklink.com (dialup-034.quicklink.com) by www (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07145; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:36:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:36:38 -0500 Message-Id: <9611251736.AA07145@www> X-Sender: jody@quicklink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Joel Kelmenson Subject: Re: Paging utilty for FreeBSD Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would also be interested in hearing the different options available? Joel At 11:38 AM 11/25/96 -0500, you wrote: >I'm looking for a good paging utility for FreeBSD can anyone suggest. >Adam > >Adam Furman >System Administrator of Sunfire.ucs.net >afurman@amf.net >Irc HUB Admin of irc.ucs.net >Mud Admin of sunfire.ucs.net:4000 > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 10:49:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29806 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic.dataphone.se (root@nic.dataphone.se [194.23.92.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29775 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mhome (dialup-01-42.dataphone.se [194.23.95.44]) by nic.dataphone.se (8.8.3/8.8.2/tri) with ESMTP id TAA14581; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:45:17 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611251845.TAA14581@nic.dataphone.se> Reply-To: From: "Mikael Hugo" To: "Joe Greco" Cc: Subject: Re: Newsserver running NCR815 cards Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:08:21 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 6: Spending a couple extra bucks for better drives will fix problem and > also get you tagged queueing if you usr NCR controllers. Better fix. My drives are fast and reliable - They dont work with NCR under FreeBSD. The drives are 3 GB DEC Drives (aka Micropolis OEM), so I would rather buy AHA2940s than tossing out 12 of these drives :):) /Mikael Hugo From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 11:32:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03142 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:32:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03107 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id NAA15349; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:31:40 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611251931.NAA15349@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Newsserver running NCR815 cards To: mikael@Hugo.pp.se Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:31:39 -0600 (CST) Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611251845.TAA14581@nic.dataphone.se> from "Mikael Hugo" at Nov 22, 96 10:08:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 6: Spending a couple extra bucks for better drives will fix problem and > > also get you tagged queueing if you usr NCR controllers. Better fix. > > My drives are fast and reliable - They dont work with NCR under FreeBSD. But the question is WHY? > The drives are 3 GB DEC Drives (aka Micropolis OEM), so I would rather buy > AHA2940s than tossing out 12 of these drives :):) Well, sure, but it would be nice to see if there isn't something that could be done to fix the problem. But first it needs to be determined.. If it is buggy drive firmware, that would bother me, and I would suspect I was getting less out of the drives than I might be. In which case, I would be hammering on DEC/Micropolis's door for a firmware fix. If it is a buggy NCR driver, that would also bother me, and probably also the author of the driver. :-) If it is buggy drive firmware that can not get fixed, that is the worst situation, because then you may be stuck with 12 less than optimal drives, but maybe FreeBSD can be made to work (with reduced efficiency) even so. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 11:35:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03530 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from www (quicklink.com [204.32.218.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03517 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-017.quicklink.com (dialup-034.quicklink.com) by www (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08928; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:35:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:35:07 -0500 Message-Id: <9611251935.AA08928@www> X-Sender: jody@quicklink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Joel Kelmenson Subject: Quantum XP drives? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was thinking about getting a few new drives and wanted to see what others thought of the Quantum XP drives. XP34300W < 4300MB wide XP32150W < 2150MB wide XP32150 < 2150MB I use mostly Seagate drives and I have been happy with them, but I was told that the Quantum XP drives are better drives. Thanks all. Joel From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 14:34:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15617 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@p05.pm-4.pm.dimensional.com [206.100.130.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15583 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:33:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00231 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:33:11 -0700 Message-ID: <329A1EA6.2EA07EF4@w3page.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:33:10 -0700 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.25 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Newsserver running NCR815 cards References: <199611251931.NAA15349@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe Greco wrote: > > > > 6: Spending a couple extra bucks for better drives will fix problem and > > > also get you tagged queueing if you usr NCR controllers. Better fix. > > > > My drives are fast and reliable - They dont work with NCR under FreeBSD. > > But the question is WHY? > > > The drives are 3 GB DEC Drives (aka Micropolis OEM), so I would rather buy > > AHA2940s than tossing out 12 of these drives :):) > > Well, sure, but it would be nice to see if there isn't something that could > be done to fix the problem. But first it needs to be determined.. Thats true... Have to determine where the problem is. Until then, many of us have to use an Adaptec, or some other card. > If it is buggy drive firmware, that would bother me, and I would suspect > I was getting less out of the drives than I might be. In which case, I > would be hammering on DEC/Micropolis's door for a firmware fix. Yes. You go to DEC, Micropolis, HP, etc... and tell them their firmware is buggy, because it does not work under FreeBSD's NCR Driver.... They _might_ listen, but methinks you will get nothing but a buch of runaround and finger pointing at the "Free" O/S... or the Driver. > If it is a buggy NCR driver, that would also bother me, and probably also > the author of the driver. :-) Maybe... There have been a number of complaints about this with various drives. Maybe they do all have buggy firmware. Quite possible... Then again, My HP drives work GREAT under Linux and their NCR Driver. So, maybe someone should lookit the code. If it is the drive, perhaps an "option" to workaround the buggy firmware would be in order, rather than just fail. > If it is buggy drive firmware that can not get fixed, that is the worst > situation, because then you may be stuck with 12 less than optimal drives, > but maybe FreeBSD can be made to work (with reduced efficiency) even so. > So, rather than wonder, how does one actually TEST this? I cannot test it with the NCR Driver, as the drive is not recognised other than at boot up. I cannot create partitions, make labels, etc. much less create a filesystem. They work perfectly with Adaptec, so . . .? Where does that leave a user? Simple solution might be to start compiling a list of drives known to work, and also not work with the NCR driver. Then, we can avoid that combo. What other controllers support tagged queing? Do they have the same problems with the same drives? Is there life after death? expiring minds want to know! From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 17:10:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA24731 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24681 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA05324; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:09:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:05:55 -0500 () From: Bradley Dunn Reply-To: Bradley Dunn To: Matt of the Long Red Hair cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid question no 10101 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: bradley@harborcom.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Matt of the Long Red Hair wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, John Capo wrote: > > > If your wire is not secure and you are not filtering at a router > > then copying the password file via an encrypted link is your only > > option. > > A good way to do this is with ssh, a replacement for telnet,rlogin,rsh, etc. > which encrypts all connections. You could scp (secure rcp) your password > files from machine to machine. > > ssh is available as a FreeBSD port, BTW. Check your local mirror. Careful there. If you are in the US or Canada and you are using ssh in a commercial application, you must either have a license with RSA or buy a product that does. (such as F-secure http://www.datafellows.com/f-secure/) -BD From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 17:37:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA25996 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:37:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25985 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04351; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:36:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199611260136.RAA04351@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Newsserver running NCR815 cards In-Reply-To: <329A1EA6.2EA07EF4@w3page.com> from Blaine Minazzi at "Nov 25, 96 03:33:10 pm" To: bminazzi@w3page.com (Blaine Minazzi) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:36:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Joe Greco wrote: > > > > > > 6: Spending a couple extra bucks for better drives will fix problem and > > > > also get you tagged queueing if you usr NCR controllers. Better fix. > > > > > > My drives are fast and reliable - They dont work with NCR under FreeBSD. > > > > But the question is WHY? > > > > > The drives are 3 GB DEC Drives (aka Micropolis OEM), so I would rather buy > > > AHA2940s than tossing out 12 of these drives :):) > > > > Well, sure, but it would be nice to see if there isn't something that could > > be done to fix the problem. But first it needs to be determined.. > > Thats true... Have to determine where the problem is. Until then, many > of us have to use an Adaptec, or some other card. This is a ``heads up warning'' from the AAI test labs. The new Quantum Atlas-II drives (specifically the QM34550AL-S model) has abismal performance when talking to an NCR 53C810 under 2.1.6 (<3MB/sec read and write). The drive kicks some serious bytes when talking to an AHA2940U in the same system (>9MB/sec in fast scsi-ii mode, >11MB/sec in Ultra mode). The current status of the NCR problem is ``Quantum's compatibility lab has been handed the open trouble report, and an engineer will be getting back to you''. Anyone else out there playing with one of the new Atlas-II drives that has any data about it, good or bad, please contact me. Especially if you see numbers >3MB/sec on an NCR based controller running _ANY_ OS on any hardware, or anyone seeing <3MB/sec with something other than an NCR controller chip. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 25 21:52:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA11800 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from cafu.fl.net.au (root@cafu.fl.net.au [203.22.184.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11586 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by cafu.fl.net.au (2.0/fl) id QAA10963; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:50:01 +1100 (EST) Received: from happy.fl.net.au(203.22.184.20) by cafu.fl.net.au via smap (V1.3) id sma010865; Tue Nov 26 16:49:40 1996 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961126165055.00dc6144@mail.fl.net.au> X-Sender: adf@mail.fl.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:50:55 +1100 To: Joel Kelmenson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org From: Andrew Foster Subject: Re: Quantum XP drives? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I was thinking about getting a few new drives and wanted >to see what others thought of the Quantum XP drives. > > XP34300W < 4300MB wide > XP32150W < 2150MB wide > XP32150 < 2150MB > >I use mostly Seagate drives and I have been happy with them, but I was told that >the Quantum XP drives are better drives. I've had too many Quantums (in particular 4GB Atlases (XP34300 and XP34300W) fail in short periods of time (and I know of other cases of this happening)). I'd recommend IBM drives; while they're probably slightly more expensive than Quantum drives the performance is as good (if not better) and they seem far less prone to overheating. You may also consider using multiple 5400RPM drives (such as 2GB IBM's) with ccd. Regards, Andrew Foster First Link Internet Services Pty Ltd ==================================================================== Andrew Foster First Link Internet Services System & Network Admin. Flat Rate Internet Access in Sydney E-mail : adf@fl.net.au http://www.fl.net.au/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 06:05:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA04595 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pino.ngonet.be (pino.ngonet.be [193.190.166.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04571 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by pino.ngonet.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00211 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:59:23 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961126160128.0068afc8@gatekeeper> X-Sender: gullist@gatekeeper X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:01:28 -0100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Gunter Loos - System Administrator Subject: PPP and DNS Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a lot of problems again with my ppp-connections. I run named, and kernel ppp on my FreeBSD 2.0.5 box. For some reason or another, (as far as I can remember I only updated a new www-host in my domain) dns doesn't work over the ppp-link anymore. The client (mostly win95) just asks, politely, in the right way, but there comes no answer from the server. Anyone seen this before? I restarted named, used the serial, etc. To no avail. Gunter -- . .__ .| NgoNet - Internet For Belgian NGO's _| _ [ __ ||Voice +32 2 5392620 Fax +32 2 5391343 (_](/, [_./(_||| mailto:Gunter.Loos@ngonet.be From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 06:45:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA06101 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from inetsrv.wtrt.net (inetsrv.wtrt.net [205.231.181.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA06095 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from allenh.wtrt.net (local2.wtrt.net [205.231.181.228]) by inetsrv.wtrt.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA03401 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:46:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611261446.IAA03401@inetsrv.wtrt.net> From: "Allen Hyer" To: Subject: ip addresses, tape backup Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:45:39 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a FreeBSD box running 2.1.5-RELEASE. I have two questions: 1. I have 2 tcp/ip networks on my physical lan. I would like the FreeBSD box to be able to "see" both networks. I do NOT want it to route packets between them, I just want it to have an ip address from both networks. Do I have to put in two ethernet cards even tho the 2 networks are on the same lan? 2. I had an old 4mm DAT drive laying around, so I put it in the FreeBSD box. When I boot, I get the following message; "st0(ahc0:1:0) Sequential-Access st0: WangDat model 1300 is a known rogue" is this bad? If it is, can someone recommend a good tape drive for backing up the system? Thanks, Allen Hyer System Administrator West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 09:20:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA14173 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from irbs.irbs.com (jc@irbs.irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14167 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA16855; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:20:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:20:09 -0500 From: jc@irbs.com (John Capo) To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Stupid question no 10101 References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.51 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Organization: IRBS Engineering, (954) 792-9551 In-Reply-To: ; from Bradley Dunn on Nov 25, 1996 20:05:55 -0500 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Bradley Dunn (bradley@dunn.org): > > Careful there. If you are in the US or Canada and you are using ssh in a > commercial application, you must either have a license with RSA or buy a > product that does. > (such as F-secure http://www.datafellows.com/f-secure/) > Not according to the way I read the license. From the end of paragraph 2 of the rsraef2/doc/license.txt: Nothing in this paragraph prohibits you from using the Program or any Application Program solely for internal purposes on the premises of a business which is engaged in revenue-generating activities. You can't sell it, or derive revenue from it, but you can use it. If there is somthing I have missed here, please correct me. John Capo From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 14:29:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02024 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01976 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA13209 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id HAA03187; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:22:40 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:22:39 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Gunter Loos - System Administrator cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP and DNS In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961126160128.0068afc8@gatekeeper> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Gunter Loos - System Administrator wrote: > I'm having a lot of problems again with my ppp-connections. > I run named, and kernel ppp on my FreeBSD 2.0.5 box. For some > reason or another, (as far as I can remember I only updated a > new www-host in my domain) dns doesn't work over the ppp-link anymore. > The client (mostly win95) just asks, politely, in the right way, but > there comes no answer from the server. named with 2.0.5 will use the primary IP address to send replies. If the IP address of the FreeBSD end of the ppp link is not listed as an A record for your nameserver, then the Win95 box could be ignoring the replies it gets. Solutions: list all possible IP addresses as A records, but then if an interface goes down, some queries won't get throught; or use the ed0 address on ppp interfaces (easiest). But really, you should upgrade to 2.1.6 (or hang out for a week and go for 2.1.6.1). Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 14:39:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04290 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04277 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA12541 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id MAA17383; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:50:35 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611261850.MAA17383@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: ip addresses, tape backup To: allenh@wtrt.net (Allen Hyer) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:50:35 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199611261446.IAA03401@inetsrv.wtrt.net> from "Allen Hyer" at Nov 26, 96 08:45:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a FreeBSD box running 2.1.5-RELEASE. I have two questions: > > 1. I have 2 tcp/ip networks on my physical lan. I would like the FreeBSD > box to be able to "see" both networks. I do NOT want it to route packets > between them, I just want it to have an ip address from both networks. Do > I have to put in two ethernet cards even tho the 2 networks are on the same > lan? No. ifconfig xx0 10.1.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 ifconfig xx0 alias 192.1.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 Note: because you are adding an alias on a different subnet, for which a route does not exist, use the network's netmask. Putting in two ethernet cards, I suspect, would end you up in endless pain. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 15:24:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03570 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:35:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03535 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gds.de (ns.gds.de [194.77.222.14]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA12811 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.gds.de (donald.gds.de [194.77.222.3]) by gds.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA29485 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:27:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611261927.UAA29485@gds.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Richard Gresek" Organization: Plus.Net To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:26:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: initiate sendmail Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hallo, we provide the secondary mx for a customer. The customer connects to our services several times a day automatically to get the mails to his primary mx (We do not call his site when a mail for his domains errived). Our sendmail sends the mailqueue every 30 minutes. At the momen he has to stay 30 minutes online to be sure that all mail is gone to the primary mx. Is there a command that would initiate sendmail to send all the mails now? The user has not root-privilages on our machine of course. Thans in advance Richard +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ : Plus.Net Internet PoP fuer : Oppenheimer Landstr. 55 Frankfurt & Westerwald : 60596 Frankfurt : Tel.: +49 69 61991275 http://www.plusnet.de : Fax : +49 69 610238 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 17:29:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14808 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:29:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14802 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from bah2.themall.net (bah.themall.net) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA02404 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:22:18 -0800 Received: from noc.themall.net (noc.themall.net [208.202.104.31]) by bah2.themall.net (8.8.2/8.8.2/IIAM 1.0 (DCH)) with SMTP id RAA21362 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by noc.themall.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BBDBBE.02D82710@noc.themall.net>; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:19:42 -0800 Message-Id: <01BBDBBE.02D82710@noc.themall.net> From: Eric Sabban To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: ip addresses, tape backup Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:17:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes, you need to different ethernet cards, cuz you're on a different physical ethernet segment (If I understand correctly). The tape drives we use here are Conner 2000DAT drives, and they work really well.. ---------- From: Allen Hyer[SMTP:allenh@wtrt.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 9:30 AM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ip addresses, tape backup I have a FreeBSD box running 2.1.5-RELEASE. I have two questions: 1. I have 2 tcp/ip networks on my physical lan. I would like the FreeBSD box to be able to "see" both networks. I do NOT want it to route packets between them, I just want it to have an ip address from both networks. Do I have to put in two ethernet cards even tho the 2 networks are on the same lan? 2. I had an old 4mm DAT drive laying around, so I put it in the FreeBSD box. When I boot, I get the following message; "st0(ahc0:1:0) Sequential-Access st0: WangDat model 1300 is a known rogue" is this bad? If it is, can someone recommend a good tape drive for backing up the system? Thanks, Allen Hyer System Administrator West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 18:59:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20112 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20104 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA03761; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:59:04 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:59:03 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Richard Gresek cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: initiate sendmail In-Reply-To: <199611261927.UAA29485@gds.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Richard Gresek wrote: > we provide the secondary mx for a customer. The customer connects to > our services several times a day automatically to get the mails to > his primary mx (We do not call his site when a mail for his domains > errived). Our sendmail sends the mailqueue every 30 minutes. At the > momen he has to stay 30 minutes online to be sure that all mail is > gone to the primary mx. > > Is there a command that would initiate sendmail to send all the mails > now? The user has not root-privilages on our machine of course. In the 'privacy flags' section of sendmail.cf, there is a definition Opgoaway,restrictqrun Remove restrictqrun to allow non-root users to start the queue processing. You might also like to rearrange the MXs. We are the 1st MX for our customers like this, and we have defined: # If we are the best MX for a host, try directly instead of generating # local config error. OwTrue That way a remote site will deliver straight to you, without trying the customer connection. You then send to your customer. Only works for 'hosts', so you need to get your customer to name their mail machine 'customer.com' as well as 'hostname.customer.com' in the DNS. Just put an A record in the DNS for 'customer.com'. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 19:00:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA20211 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA20186 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA12780 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:59:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id SAA12325; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:55:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: jmg@nike Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Richard Gresek Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: initiate sendmail In-Reply-To: <199611261927.UAA29485@gds.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Richard Gresek wrote: > Hallo, > > we provide the secondary mx for a customer. The customer connects to > our services several times a day automatically to get the mails to > his primary mx (We do not call his site when a mail for his domains > errived). Our sendmail sends the mailqueue every 30 minutes. At the > momen he has to stay 30 minutes online to be sure that all mail is > gone to the primary mx. > > Is there a command that would initiate sendmail to send all the mails > now? The user has not root-privilages on our machine of course. any normal user can run sendmail -q to force sendmail to process it's send queue... hope this helps... ttyl.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 20:07:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA23383 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from bah2.themall.net (bah.themall.net [204.80.99.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23378 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from noc.themall.net (noc.themall.net [208.202.104.31]) by bah2.themall.net (8.8.2/8.8.2/IIAM 1.0 (DCH)) with SMTP id UAA10206 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by noc.themall.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BBDBD5.80D54C80@noc.themall.net>; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:07:51 -0800 Message-ID: <01BBDBD5.80D54C80@noc.themall.net> From: Eric Sabban To: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: RE: ip addresses, tape backup Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:06:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, no, it shouldn't work, as you won't get the broadcast packets and that kidna fun stuff. Eric ---------- From: Joe Greco[SMTP:jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 6:41 PM To: Allen Hyer Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ip addresses, tape backup > I have a FreeBSD box running 2.1.5-RELEASE. I have two questions: > > 1. I have 2 tcp/ip networks on my physical lan. I would like the FreeBSD > box to be able to "see" both networks. I do NOT want it to route packets > between them, I just want it to have an ip address from both networks. Do > I have to put in two ethernet cards even tho the 2 networks are on the same > lan? No. ifconfig xx0 10.1.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 ifconfig xx0 alias 192.1.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 Note: because you are adding an alias on a different subnet, for which a route does not exist, use the network's netmask. Putting in two ethernet cards, I suspect, would end you up in endless pain. .. JG From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 20:22:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24365 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24358 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id WAA18244; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:20:56 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611270420.WAA18244@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: initiate sendmail To: rg@plusnet.de (Richard Gresek) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:20:55 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199611261927.UAA29485@gds.de> from "Richard Gresek" at Nov 26, 96 08:26:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hallo, > > we provide the secondary mx for a customer. The customer connects to > our services several times a day automatically to get the mails to > his primary mx (We do not call his site when a mail for his domains > errived). Our sendmail sends the mailqueue every 30 minutes. At the > momen he has to stay 30 minutes online to be sure that all mail is > gone to the primary mx. > > Is there a command that would initiate sendmail to send all the mails > now? The user has not root-privilages on our machine of course. > > Thans in advance Add something. Simple idea: add an entry to inetd along the lines of mumble stream tcp wait root /usr/sbin/sendmail sendmail -q where mumble is some service port you and he agree to. Then when he brings up his net connection, he can kick off a program to tickle that port. Recent sendmails, I believe, have some support for something similar to this that is less of a hack. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 26 21:48:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28780 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:48:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from foo.primenet.com (ip198.sjc.primenet.com [206.165.96.198]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28759 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bkogawa@localhost) by foo.primenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA20906; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:53:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:53:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611270553.VAA20906@foo.primenet.com> To: allenh@wtrt.net Subject: Re: ip addresses, tape backup Newsgroups: localhost.freebsd.isp References: <199611261446.IAA03401@inetsrv.wtrt.net> From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" Cc: X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In localhost.freebsd.isp you write: [..] > 2. I had an old 4mm DAT drive laying around, so I put it in the FreeBSD >box. When I boot, I get the following message; "st0(ahc0:1:0) >Sequential-Access st0: WangDat model 1300 is a known rogue" is this bad? >If it is, can someone recommend a good tape drive for backing up the >system? I picked one of these (1300XL) up refurbished, and I was concerned, as well, but reading of the source and handbook *seems* to indicate that the "rogues" are devices which implement non-standard feature sets (like not having certain features). I believe they are generally competent at storing and retrieving data. If that's not the case, I'd love to know--I still have a few days to return it for a refund. :) -- bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 02:20:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA09114 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA09082 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.win.net by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA01957 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:14:12 -0800 Received: from launchpad.win.net (uucp@localhost) by ns2.win.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id CAA16466 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:01:04 -0500 Received: by win.net!launchpad; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 01:52:20 X-Mailer: WinNET Mail, v4.0c Message-Id: Reply-To: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 01:52:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Paging utilty for FreeBSD From: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays - freebsd-isp) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I would also be interested in hearing the different options available? If you're looking for a simple single-pager solution a very simple one is to set with an email-to-pager service (www.interpage.net is one example) and send email messages to the service, which then get forwarded as pages. Joe Mays From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 02:22:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA09480 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA09449 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pino.ngonet.be by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA17693 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:55:02 -0800 Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by pino.ngonet.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04607; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:21:41 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961127102341.00692ce0@gatekeeper> X-Sender: gullist@gatekeeper X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:23:41 -0100 To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" From: Gunter Loos - System Administrator Subject: Re: PPP and DNS Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:22 27/11/96 +1100, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > >On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Gunter Loos - System Administrator wrote: > >> I'm having a lot of problems again with my ppp-connections. >> I run named, and kernel ppp on my FreeBSD 2.0.5 box. For some >> reason or another, (as far as I can remember I only updated a >> new www-host in my domain) dns doesn't work over the ppp-link anymore. >> The client (mostly win95) just asks, politely, in the right way, but >> there comes no answer from the server. > >named with 2.0.5 will use the primary IP address to send replies. If the >IP address of the FreeBSD end of the ppp link is not listed as an A >record for your nameserver, then the Win95 box could be ignoring the >replies it gets. Solutions: list all possible IP addresses as A records, >but then if an interface goes down, some queries won't get throught; or >use the ed0 address on ppp interfaces (easiest). But really, you should >upgrade to 2.1.6 (or hang out for a week and go for 2.1.6.1). > >Danny Hmm: I'm not sure this is the case. I've aliased my ep1 to be on 2 nets (.65 and .129). But it might be something analogue. I'd like very much to upgrade to 2.1.x; but the box is rather finetuned now (*and* I've only got one backup of it), so I'm rather scared of doing it all over again (fwtk, harvest, etc.) Know of any easy good way to upgrade? Gunter. -- . .__ .| NgoNet - Internet For Belgian NGO's _| _ [ __ ||Voice +32 2 5392620 Fax +32 2 5391343 (_](/, [_./(_||| mailto:Gunter.Loos@ngonet.be From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 07:32:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA25011 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA25005 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:32:17 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Lehey Received: from freebie.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vSlvI-000QrrC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 16:29 MET Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.de (8.8.3/8.6.12) id OAA02376; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:58:33 +0100 (MET) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Message-Id: <199611271358.OAA02376@freebie.lemis.de> Subject: Re: initiate sendmail In-Reply-To: <199611261927.UAA29485@gds.de> from Richard Gresek at "Nov 26, 96 08:26:12 pm" To: rg@plusnet.de (Richard Gresek) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:58:33 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Gresek writes: > Hallo, > > we provide the secondary mx for a customer. The customer connects to > our services several times a day automatically to get the mails to > his primary mx (We do not call his site when a mail for his domains > errived). Our sendmail sends the mailqueue every 30 minutes. At the > momen he has to stay 30 minutes online to be sure that all mail is > gone to the primary mx. > > Is there a command that would initiate sendmail to send all the mails > now? The user has not root-privilages on our machine of course. You can run the queue manually with sendmail -q. You don't normally need to be root for that. You can also get them to run the queue for, say, sender lemis.de with sendmail -qSlemis.de Similarly, you can run for recipient freebsd.org with sendmail -qRfreebsd.org Are you running FreeBSD? What price can you offer me for an ISDN connect? Greg From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 09:16:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29959 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:16:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [165.90.138.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29951 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from devnull.calweb.com (devnull.calweb.com [165.90.138.92]) by mail.calweb.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA19279; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:16:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961127091306.007ef430@pop.calweb.com> Warning: Unsolicited Commercial Email (UCE) will be returned to send in bulk X-Sender: jfesler@pop.calweb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:15:17 -0800 To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , Richard Gresek From: Jason Fesler Subject: Re: initiate sendmail Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is another option.. Sendmail 8.8.x (at least, my 8.8.3) has an option called "ETRN". Telnet to the port, type "ETRN domain.name", and sendmail will run the queue, without requiring a complete login to the mail host. Easy enough to script even :-). (sleep 5; echo "ETRN domain.name"; sleep 60) | telnet mailhost 25 Crude, but works in a pinch.. At 01:59 PM 11/27/96 +1100, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > >On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Richard Gresek wrote: > >> we provide the secondary mx for a customer. The customer connects to >> our services several times a day automatically to get the mails to >> his primary mx (We do not call his site when a mail for his domains >> errived). Our sendmail sends the mailqueue every 30 minutes. At the >> momen he has to stay 30 minutes online to be sure that all mail is >> gone to the primary mx. >> >> Is there a command that would initiate sendmail to send all the mails >> now? The user has not root-privilages on our machine of course. > >In the 'privacy flags' section of sendmail.cf, there is a definition >Opgoaway,restrictqrun > >Remove restrictqrun to allow non-root users to start the queue processing. >You might also like to rearrange the MXs. We are the 1st MX for our >customers like this, and we have defined: > ># If we are the best MX for a host, try directly instead of generating ># local config error. >OwTrue > >That way a remote site will deliver straight to you, without trying >the customer connection. You then send to your customer. Only works for >'hosts', so you need to get your customer to name their mail machine >'customer.com' as well as 'hostname.customer.com' in the DNS. Just put >an A record in the DNS for 'customer.com'. > >Danny > > -- Jason Fesler jfesler@calweb.com Internic: 'whois jf319' Admin, CalWeb Internet Services http://www.calweb.com Junk email returned, in bulk, back to sender; w/copies to all postmasters. You got junk mail problems? Use Eudora Pro, MSIE's mail, or 'man procmail'. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 10:25:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03882 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gbdata.com ([207.90.222.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03861 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA08100 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:24:56 -0600 (CST) From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199611271824.MAA08100@main.gbdata.com> Subject: multiport ethernet To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:24:55 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give me the most bang for the buck. I'm also thinking about combining this thing with a ETInc dual serial card to route FR. Any comments? (the machine would be a P-120 or above with 32+ RAM) Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups mail info@GBData.COM for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 10:56:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05389 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05384 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA27956; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:56:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:52:37 -0500 () From: Bradley Dunn Reply-To: Bradley Dunn To: John Capo cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Stupid question no 10101 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: bradley@harborcom.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, John Capo wrote: > Quoting Bradley Dunn (bradley@dunn.org): > > > > Careful there. If you are in the US or Canada and you are using ssh in a > > commercial application, you must either have a license with RSA or buy a > > product that does. > > (such as F-secure http://www.datafellows.com/f-secure/) > > > > Not according to the way I read the license. From the end of > paragraph 2 of the rsraef2/doc/license.txt: > > Nothing in this paragraph prohibits you from using the > Program or any Application Program solely for internal > purposes on the premises of a business which is engaged in > revenue-generating activities. > > You can't sell it, or derive revenue from it, but you can use it. I guess it depends on how you define "solely for internal purposes". From "WHAT YOU CAN (AND CANNOT) DO WITH RSAREF": RSAREF, RSAREF applications, and services based on RSAREF applications may not be sold. How do you define services based on RSA? I would ask a lawyer, since a part of providing Internet services includes providing access to computers. If you use RSA to administer those computers is the service based on RSA? Maybe, maybe not. -BD From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 11:55:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08230 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from irbs.irbs.com (jc@irbs.irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08225 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id OAA29256; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:54:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:54:45 -0500 From: jc@irbs.com (John Capo) To: gclarkii@main.gbdata.com (Gary Clark II) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: multiport ethernet References: <199611271824.MAA08100@main.gbdata.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.51 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Organization: IRBS Engineering, (954) 792-9551 In-Reply-To: <199611271824.MAA08100@main.gbdata.com>; from Gary Clark II on Nov 27, 1996 12:24:55 -0600 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Gary Clark II (gclarkii@main.gbdata.com): > Hello, > > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low > cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give > me the most bang for the buck. > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. John Capo From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 12:58:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11869 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [206.169.44.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11864 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:58:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from Bitch.Melmac.org (ulf@Bitch.Melmac.org [207.90.181.42]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id MAA08659; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by Bitch.Melmac.org (8.8.3/8.7.6) id MAA00877; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:57:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ulf Zimmermann Message-Id: <199611272057.MAA00877@Bitch.Melmac.org> Subject: Re: multiport ethernet To: jc@irbs.com (John Capo) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:57:57 -0800 (PST) Cc: gclarkii@main.gbdata.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from John Capo at "Nov 27, 96 02:54:45 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Quoting Gary Clark II (gclarkii@main.gbdata.com): > > Hello, > > > > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low > > cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give > > me the most bang for the buck. > > > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. > > John Capo > > I use a Znyx 314 (http://www.znyx.com/) Works very fine and has a suggest price around $400 I think. Ulf. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Lamb Art Internet Services | http://www.Lamb.net/ | http://www.Alameda.net From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 13:08:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12534 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from orka.linkeasy.net (orka.linkeasy.net [206.117.216.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12527 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from shit.linkeasy.net ([206.117.216.228]) by orka.linkeasy.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21365 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:06:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:06:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611272106.NAA21365@orka.linkeasy.net> X-Sender: admin@mail.linkeasy.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org From: Mike Parks Subject: Editing active file Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I start INN I recieve error message saying duplicate comp.?.? when I delete the line from my active file and restart innd I get the same message referring to the next line of the active file. Is there a command to search and delete all duplicate lines in this file so I don't have to go through them one by one. Thanks Mike From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 13:11:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12796 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12788 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08481; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:11:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199611272111.NAA08481@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: multiport ethernet In-Reply-To: from John Capo at "Nov 27, 96 02:54:45 pm" To: jc@irbs.com (John Capo) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:11:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: gclarkii@main.gbdata.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Quoting Gary Clark II (gclarkii@main.gbdata.com): > > Hello, > > > > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low > > cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give > > me the most bang for the buck. > > > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. WARNING!!! The SMC8434 requieres a motherboard that routes both PCI INT A and B to the slot, very few if any PCI 2.x compliant boards do this. Nothing from ASUS can run this card, infact about the only thing I have found that can run this card is old PCI 1.x boards with jumpers to manually route the interrupts. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 13:40:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14397 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from bifrost.novalink.com (bifrost.novalink.com [192.233.90.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14392 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from foundation.novalink.com ([204.166.232.114]) by bifrost.novalink.com with SMTP id <2747-9>; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:40:39 -0800 Message-ID: <329C6EAB.2D1E@novalink.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:39:07 +0000 From: Verdell Hicks Reply-To: verdell@novalink.com Organization: Novalink USA X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: INN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Good Afternoon, Using INN and wanted to ask a few questions. My history file has really gotten screwed up and I can't seem to sync things up again. I brought the entire sytem down ran makeactive and makehistory and still when I connect to my news feed I still get a lot of can't symlink this to that. I've been through the faq and have tried the ctlinnd renumber '' makehistory -buv ctlinnd renumber '' and it still did not work. First my expire file reads /remember/:5 ## Keep for 1-10 days, allow Expires headers to work. ## for now, expire everything quickly....2 days *:A:1:3:4 ## For alt binaries, expire them in 1 day alt.binaries.*:A:1:2:2 ## Some particular groups stay forever. #dc.dining*:A:never:never:never #uunet*:A:never:never:never Yet it doesn't seem to expire the articles when my hard drive gets down to 40%. It stops right there. I don't seem to get any error messages concerning expire. Anyhow, in order to sync things up again I read that you can simply reformat your news spool and let INN recreate all of the directories again as the news comes in. What other files will I need to delete in order to keep this process from blowing up in my face ie. should I after formatting rerun makeactive and makehistory? should I actually delete my old history file and let INN start that over also (will it?). Does anyone have any pointers for me before I reformat and totally screw things up more? Thanks From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 14:18:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16504 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16495 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA02975; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:18:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:14:43 -0500 () From: Bradley Dunn To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: multiport ethernet In-Reply-To: <199611272111.NAA08481@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: bradley@harborcom.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. > > WARNING!!! The SMC8434 requieres a motherboard that routes both > PCI INT A and B to the slot, very few if any PCI 2.x compliant > boards do this. Nothing from ASUS can run this card, infact about > the only thing I have found that can run this card is old PCI 1.x > boards with jumpers to manually route the interrupts. Ok, help clear some things up for me here. The dual port 10/100 PCI card is the SMC9334, right? The SMC8434 is the dual port 10Mbps PCI, right? Now which of those two works and which doesn't? -BD From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 14:18:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16518 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16509 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id QAA19821; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:17:50 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611272217.QAA19821@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: INN To: verdell@novalink.com Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:17:50 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <329C6EAB.2D1E@novalink.com> from "Verdell Hicks" at Nov 27, 96 04:39:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Good Afternoon, > Using INN and wanted to ask a few questions. My history file > has > really gotten screwed up and I can't seem to sync things up again. I > brought the entire sytem down ran makeactive and makehistory and still > when I connect to my news feed I still get a lot of can't symlink this > to that. I've been through the faq and have tried the > > ctlinnd renumber '' > makehistory -buv > ctlinnd renumber '' > > and it still did not work. First my expire file reads > > /remember/:5 > > ## Keep for 1-10 days, allow Expires headers to work. > ## for now, expire everything quickly....2 days > *:A:1:3:4 > ## For alt binaries, expire them in 1 day > alt.binaries.*:A:1:2:2 > > ## Some particular groups stay forever. > #dc.dining*:A:never:never:never > #uunet*:A:never:never:never > > Yet it doesn't seem to expire the articles when my hard drive gets down > to 40%. It stops right there. I don't seem to get any error messages > concerning expire. Anyhow, in order to sync things up again I read that > you can simply reformat your news spool and let INN recreate all of the > directories again as the news comes in. What other files will I need to > delete in order to keep this process from blowing up in my face ie. > should I after formatting rerun makeactive and makehistory? should I > actually delete my old history file and let INN start that over also > (will it?). Does anyone have any pointers for me before I reformat and > totally screw things up more? Three options: 1) Assume you have some files that are not in the history for whatever reason. % cd /news % find . -type f -name '[0-9]*' -mtime +10 -print | xargs rm % ctlinnd renumber "" The +10 is the number of days old a file must be to be forcibly removed. Run this from time to time and you will catch articles without the inconvenience of makehistory. 2) Assume your spool is messed up but your history is fine. Start over by removing all articles. % cd /news % find . -type f -name '[0-9]*' -print | xargs rm % ctlinnd renumber "" This way you do not incur directory recreation penalties. Both find based solutions do not handle symlinks. This may be a problem. 3) Assume your spool is messed up but your history is fine. Blow the spool away. % stopnews % su # umount /news # newfs # mount /news # mkdir -p /news/out.going /news/in.coming/bad /news/in.coming/tmp /news/news/archive # chown -Rf news.news /news; chmod -Rf 775 /news # exit 4) If you wish to blow away your history, % stopnews % cp /dev/null /usr/local/news/history You generally do not want to do this unless you have a compelling reason to believe that you need to (very corrupt history, etc). Okay, that was three options plus a history hint. I can't count. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 14:37:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17846 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17837 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id QAA19901; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:36:10 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611272236.QAA19901@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Editing active file To: admin@linkeasy.net (Mike Parks) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:36:09 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611272106.NAA21365@orka.linkeasy.net> from "Mike Parks" at Nov 27, 96 01:06:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > When I start INN I recieve error message saying duplicate comp.?.? when I > delete the line from my active file and restart innd I get the same message > referring to the next line of the active file. > > Is there a command to search and delete all duplicate lines in this file so > I don't have to go through them one by one. Try this. % awk '{print $1}' /usr/local/news/active | sort | uniq -c alt.binaries.startrek alt.binaries.startrek.adult alt.binaties.startrek.adult alt.sex.fetish.startrek % This will not actually delete them but it will tell you which ones are duplicated. That may be helpful. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 14:41:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18277 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18267 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id QAA19910; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:39:15 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611272239.QAA19910@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: multiport ethernet To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:39:15 -0600 (CST) Cc: jc@irbs.com, gclarkii@main.gbdata.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199611272111.NAA08481@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Nov 27, 96 01:11:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Quoting Gary Clark II (gclarkii@main.gbdata.com): > > > Hello, > > > > > > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low > > > cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give > > > me the most bang for the buck. > > > > > > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. > > WARNING!!! The SMC8434 requieres a motherboard that routes both > PCI INT A and B to the slot, very few if any PCI 2.x compliant > boards do this. Nothing from ASUS can run this card, infact about > the only thing I have found that can run this card is old PCI 1.x > boards with jumpers to manually route the interrupts. When I was looking around the SMC pages, it appeared to me that the SMC8434 was the 10baseT only variant, and there was a 10/100 variant (SMC9332 maybe?). Point being: don't go out and buy an 8434 unless you verify the feature set. ;-) Just a handy tip. Related: Are there any good dual port DEC21x4x based cards currently supported by FreeBSD? Either 10baseT only or 10/100....? ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 15:04:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20217 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20206 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA05507; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:05:22 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:05:21 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Jason Fesler cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: initiate sendmail In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961127091306.007ef430@pop.calweb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jason Fesler wrote: > There is another option.. Sendmail 8.8.x (at least, my 8.8.3) > has an option called "ETRN". Telnet to the port, type > "ETRN domain.name", and sendmail will run the queue, without > requiring a complete login to the mail host. Easy enough to > script even :-). > > (sleep 5; echo "ETRN domain.name"; sleep 60) | telnet mailhost 25 > > Crude, but works in a pinch.. Cute. I like Greg Lehey's suggestion, too - 'sendmail -qRdomain.name' If your customer is logging in via a standard login/password arrangement with a /bin/sh script for a shell, it is easy to add if [ $USER = Pcust ]; then (sleep 10 ; sendmail -qRcust.com ) & fi before the exec pppd. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 15:12:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20848 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20837 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by teligent.se (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA09634 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:11:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:12:59 +0100 (MET) From: Jakob Alvermark Reply-To: alvermark@teligent.se To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: PPP? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello ISP'ers! Does anybody know if FreeBSD supports Multilink PPP or is there an "add on"= ?=20 If it does, is it hard to set up? (Both server and client) I am running=20 FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE at the moment. Thank you in advance, =09=09Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nyn=E4shamn, Sweden =20 Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36=20 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 15:52:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23319 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [206.169.44.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23313 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from Bitch.Melmac.org (ulf@Bitch.Melmac.org [207.90.181.42]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA09118; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by Bitch.Melmac.org (8.8.3/8.7.6) id PAA01028; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:52:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ulf Zimmermann Message-Id: <199611272352.PAA01028@Bitch.Melmac.org> Subject: Re: multiport ethernet To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:52:24 -0800 (PST) Cc: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, jc@irbs.com, gclarkii@main.gbdata.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611272239.QAA19910@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Nov 27, 96 04:39:15 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Like I wrote earlier, look at the Znyx pages too. They have all kind of 2 and 4 port cards. Only 10mbit and 10/100. All cards also with full duplex. Or with switching. Etc. > > > Quoting Gary Clark II (gclarkii@main.gbdata.com): > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low > > > > cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give > > > > me the most bang for the buck. > > > > > > > > > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > > > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > > > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. > > > > WARNING!!! The SMC8434 requieres a motherboard that routes both > > PCI INT A and B to the slot, very few if any PCI 2.x compliant > > boards do this. Nothing from ASUS can run this card, infact about > > the only thing I have found that can run this card is old PCI 1.x > > boards with jumpers to manually route the interrupts. > > When I was looking around the SMC pages, it appeared to me that the SMC8434 > was the 10baseT only variant, and there was a 10/100 variant (SMC9332 > maybe?). > > Point being: don't go out and buy an 8434 unless you verify the feature > set. ;-) > > Just a handy tip. > > Related: > > Are there any good dual port DEC21x4x based cards currently supported by > FreeBSD? Either 10baseT only or 10/100....? The Znyx 314 is based on Dec 21040 and works fine with 2.1.5R. All the other cards should work too. > > ... JG > Ulf. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Lamb Art Internet Services | http://www.Lamb.net/ | http://www.Alameda.net From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 15:55:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23468 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au (College.ormond.unimelb.edu.au [203.17.189.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23462 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA24753 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:55:24 +1100 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron Message-Id: <199611272355.KAA24753@gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: multiport ethernet To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:55:24 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199611272057.MAA00877@Bitch.Melmac.org> from "Ulf Zimmermann" at Nov 27, 96 12:57:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Quoting Gary Clark II (gclarkii@main.gbdata.com): > > > Hello, > > > > > > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low > > > cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give > > > me the most bang for the buck. > > > > > > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. > > > > John Capo > > > > > > I use a Znyx 314 (http://www.znyx.com/) Works very fine and has a suggest price > around $400 I think. > Is anyone, anyone at all, currently doing any work to get the znyx 346 supported? I've sent some email to the guy at 3am software but I don't seem to get any replies :-(. thanks Gavin From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 17:17:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA27047 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27041 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id MAA05807; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:18:21 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:18:20 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: alvermark@teligent.se cc: isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > Does anybody know if FreeBSD supports Multilink PPP or is there an "add on"? > If it does, is it hard to set up? (Both server and client) I am running > FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE at the moment. Yes, I am using multilink ppp on FreeBSD 2.1.5 with great success. You can get mpd-1.0a1.tgz from ftp.hilink.com.au:/pub/Net or from ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/incoming. It was written by Archie Cobbs. It seems to trip over a bug in the cy driver. This has been brought to the attention of the author. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 19:08:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA00899 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 19:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from excel.tnet.com.au (excell.tnet.com.au [203.15.94.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00894 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 19:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slaterm@localhost) by excel.tnet.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05133; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:14:32 +0800 (WST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:14:32 +0800 (WST) From: Michael Slater To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Can't open mail box Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, No doubt i am missing something stupid, but i am having a problem with FreeBSD 2.1.5, whenever i create a new user account, and they try to use pine for Email, or anything else an error message "Cant open mailbox, access is readonly" comes up. I check the perms of /var/mail/username, and they are -rw-------- 1 username.group 495, ect.... what are the perms supposed to be for users mail folders, as well as the /var/mail directory ? It's got me stumped. Michael From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 20:25:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04879 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.accb.ru (relay.accb.ru [194.58.215.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA04871 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from eugene@localhost) by relay.accb.ru (8.7.3/mag/1.00) id JAA02712 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:18:30 +0500 (ESK) Message-Id: <199611280418.JAA02712@relay.accb.ru> Subject: How limit speed from one to other inteface To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:18:30 +0500 (ESK) From: "Eugene V. Khodus" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! Help me please: How limit speed from one interface (example de0 *.*.*.33) to other inteface (example sl0 *.*.*.254) ? (FreeBSD 2.*) Presently scheme: +--------+ de0 +----------+ sl0 +--------+ | host 1 |------------| router 2 |----------------| host 3 | +--------+ 10 Mb +----------+ 115200 bps +--------+ ^ ^ ^ *.*.*.33 *.*.*.254 ^ | | |<------------------ 115200 bps ------------------>| Speed from 'host 1' to 'router 2' = 10 Mb, speed from 'router 2' to 'host 3' = 115200 bps, accordingly speed from 'host 1' to 'host 3' = 115200 bps. Must be: +--------+ de0 +----------+ sl0 +--------+ | host 1 |------------| router 2 |----------------| host 3 | +--------+ 10 Mb +----------+ 115200 bps +--------+ ^^^^^ ^ ^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^ *.*.*.33 *.*.*.254 ^ | | |<------------------- 28800 bps ------------------>| ^^^^^^^^^ Speed from 'host 1' to 'router 2' must be 10 Mb, speed from 'router 2' to 'host 3' must be 115200 bps, speed from 'host 1' to 'host 3' (from *.*.*.33 to *.*.*.254 intefaces) must be limit to 28800 bps. How I set up this scheme ? Eugene Khodus. PS: Sorry for my bad english language. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 27 20:55:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA05885 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05877 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:55:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id WAA20324; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:52:19 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611280452.WAA20324@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: multiport ethernet To: ulf@lamb.net (Ulf Zimmermann) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:52:19 -0600 (CST) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, jc@irbs.com, gclarkii@main.gbdata.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611272352.PAA01028@Bitch.Melmac.org> from "Ulf Zimmermann" at Nov 27, 96 03:52:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Like I wrote earlier, look at the Znyx pages too. They have all kind > of 2 and 4 port cards. Only 10mbit and 10/100. All cards also with full > duplex. Or with switching. Etc. > > > > > Quoting Gary Clark II (gclarkii@main.gbdata.com): > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low > > > > > cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give > > > > > me the most bang for the buck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > > > > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > > > > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. > > > > > > WARNING!!! The SMC8434 requieres a motherboard that routes both > > > PCI INT A and B to the slot, very few if any PCI 2.x compliant > > > boards do this. Nothing from ASUS can run this card, infact about > > > the only thing I have found that can run this card is old PCI 1.x > > > boards with jumpers to manually route the interrupts. > > > > When I was looking around the SMC pages, it appeared to me that the SMC8434 > > was the 10baseT only variant, and there was a 10/100 variant (SMC9332 > > maybe?). > > > > Point being: don't go out and buy an 8434 unless you verify the feature > > set. ;-) > > > > Just a handy tip. > > > > Related: > > > > Are there any good dual port DEC21x4x based cards currently supported by > > FreeBSD? Either 10baseT only or 10/100....? > > The Znyx 314 is based on Dec 21040 and works fine with 2.1.5R. All the other > cards should work too. Hi Ulf, That wasn't the question :-) I am quite happy with the Znyx 314 I have here, but I am looking for a solution (possibly 100baseT) with two ports. I won't go into the reasoning. I am aware of a number of vendors supplying two- and four-port DEC Tulip based Ethernet solutions, but I have no idea which ones are supported. Comments from Matt Thomas have not always been encouraging, and there is hard coded support in the driver for the Znyx 314 (look for ZX314 in the source). On the other hand: the de driver definitely is a cool driver for a cool bit of inexpensive hardware! (Just so nobody considers this as criticism.) ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 01:14:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA15568 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from excel.tnet.com.au (excell.tnet.com.au [203.15.94.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA15561 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slaterm@localhost) by excel.tnet.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00355; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:20:38 +0800 (WST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:20:38 +0800 (WST) From: Michael Slater To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Mgetty and Stallion. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, This is a problem i have been wrestling with for some weeks now. I have just built a FreeBSD 2.1.5 box, which has a Stallion EC/32 PCI card installed. FreeBSD detects the Stallion Card upon bootup and all of its ports, i can dial out from any of the modems using minicom. I have installed mgetty-0.98 from the Ports collection, but whenever a user tries to dial in, the modem will answer the call, but the user is never presented with a login prompt. I tried using the standard getty that comes with FreeBSD, but most of the time the user just gets a screen full of garbage, only once have i actually seen a user login sucessfully. Is this a problem with my mgetty configuration or perhaps a problem with the stallion driver, which is admitedly in alpha-stage. Michael Slater slaterm@tnet.com.au From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 02:02:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA17896 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pollux.or.signature.nl (root@pollux.or.signature.nl [194.229.138.194]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA17888 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc03.or.signature.nl (pc03.or.signature.nl [194.229.138.197]) by pollux.or.signature.nl (8.8.3/bs) with SMTP id LAA07817; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:03:10 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19961128100230.256f6cbe@pollux.or.signature.nl> X-Sender: bit@pollux.or.signature.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:02:30 +0000 To: Michael Slater From: Bart Smit Subject: Re: Can't open mail box Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Did you check sendmail's perms? Should be -r-sr-sr-x Bart At 11:14 AM 11/28/96 +0800, Michael Slater wrote: >Hello, > No doubt i am missing something stupid, but i am having a problem >with FreeBSD 2.1.5, whenever i create a new user account, and they try to >use pine for Email, or anything else an error message "Cant open mailbox, >access is readonly" comes up. I check the perms of /var/mail/username, and >they are -rw-------- 1 username.group 495, ect.... > >what are the perms supposed to be for users mail folders, as well as the >/var/mail directory ? From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 04:27:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA23709 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 04:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwbone.bsi.com.br (cwbone.bsi.com.br [200.250.250.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA23704 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 04:27:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jalves@localhost) by cwbone.bsi.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA07773; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:29:38 GMT Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:29:38 +0000 () From: Joao Alves Junior To: Jean-Pierre Morant cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wais In-Reply-To: <3292F2FE.52BF@marben.be> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Jean-Pierre Morant wrote: > I've used the original source from 2.0.65 and it works pretty well (just > disabled the optimization params for the compiler I think). Idem for > SFgate (html-wais G/W). > > > Reference site : > \http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/freeWAIS-sf/fwsf_toc.html > > JPM > -- > Jean-Pierre Morant > c/o MARBEN S.A./N.V. La vie serait tellement > Boulevard du Souverain,400, Vorstlaan plus facile > 1160 Bruxelles Si seulement > Belgium nous avions les sources.... > + 32 2 663 1130 (phone) > + 32 2 663 1199 (fax) > http://www.marben.be > jpm@marben.be > Thanks for your help Jean-Pierre...... I got the distributions and its works.... The tests in the distributions seems ok.... But I have a another problem..... I have a client that wants access some big files....I don't want make this with DBMS/cgi-bin ... Someone tell me that another way to make this work is using Wais...... I read the FAQ at that site... but I didn't understand how to do this.... Someone knows where can I get a complete documentation about wais and this interface to HTML????? Thanks in advance and sorry for my English Joao Alves Junior BSI Informatica From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 05:27:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA25575 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 05:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA25565 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 05:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA00519 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:29:30 GMT Received: from buffnet7.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa24818; 28 Nov 96 8:35 EST Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:35:18 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Hovey To: Verdell Hicks cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INN In-Reply-To: <329C6EAB.2D1E@novalink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Verdell Hicks wrote: > Good Afternoon, > Using INN and wanted to ask a few questions. My history file > has > really gotten screwed up and I can't seem to sync things up again. I > brought the entire sytem down ran makeactive and makehistory and still > when I connect to my news feed I still get a lot of can't symlink this > to that. I've been through the faq and have tried the > > ctlinnd renumber '' > makehistory -buv > ctlinnd renumber '' > You didnt compile INND to use MMAP did you? That will toast you once free ram gets too small. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 06:14:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA27974 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 06:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA27832 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 06:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pizza by rachael.franken.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0vT77d-000oJNC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 15:07 MET Received: by pizza.franken.de (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.4) id ; Thu, 28 Nov 96 15:04 MET Received: by olive.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0vT75s-0004oLC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 15:05 MET Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <199611271824.MAA08100@main.gbdata.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Martin Bokaemper Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 15:05:33 +0100 To: Gary Clark II Subject: Re: multiport ethernet cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org References: <199611271824.MAA08100@main.gbdata.com> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low cost > ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give me the = most > bang for the buck. I had a Cogent EM964BNC here last week for a few days of testing. The EM984BNC has 4 10Base2-Connectors (not 10BaseT!). It worked fast and without problems under FreeBSD.=20 All the problems I had were with mechanics and the BIOS: - This is a long PCI-card. On my Gigabyte 586ATE/P only two of the four PCI-slots can take such a card, the others are blocked by the CPU-fan. - If you use normal T-connectors for 10Base2 you block the neighboring slot on the back with the cables.=20 This is probably not a problem with 10BaseT (or 100BaseT). - Your BIOS has to support the PCI-PCI-Bridge that is on the card. My (not up-to-date) BIOS recognised the second bus,=20 but assigned the IRQs belonging to the 4 slots on the mainboard=20 to the four ethernet controllers. For my tests I put the cogent into the first slot and assigned=20 the same IRQ to all the devices. I had no other devices on the PCI-Bus that needed an IRQ, so that worked. For real use make sure your BIOS can configure the cogent correctly with a shared interrupt without stealing IRQs from all the other slots! All these problems are not Cogent's fault, but you should be prepared to solve them. ciao, Martin. --=20 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 11:01:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08612 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from obiwan.TerraNova.net (obiwan.TerraNova.net [205.152.26.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08606 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from coolholio.TerraNova.net (coolholio@coolholio.TerraNova.net [205.152.26.130]) by obiwan.TerraNova.net (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18034 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:08:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329DE103.654D@terranova.net> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:59:15 -0500 From: Travis Mikalson Reply-To: tmikalson@obiwan.terranova.net Organization: TerraNovaNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Idle Timeout Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm using FreeBSD as a terminal server (w/ Cyclades) and was wondering how I could implement an idle timeout on ports ttyc* of some sort... Any suggestions? Thanks, Travis Mikalson -- --==--===---====----======------=======------- TerraNovaNet Internet Inc. - Key Largo, FL Voice: (305)453-4011 Fax: (305)451-5991 http://www.TerraNova.net "I Think Sometimes, Therefore I Am Illogical!" -------=======------======----====---===--==-- -- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 11:46:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA10327 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10322 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA10654; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:45:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199611281945.LAA10654@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: multiport ethernet In-Reply-To: from Bradley Dunn at "Nov 27, 96 05:14:43 pm" To: bradley@dunn.org (Bradley Dunn) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:45:35 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > > > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > > > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. > > > > WARNING!!! The SMC8434 requieres a motherboard that routes both > > PCI INT A and B to the slot, very few if any PCI 2.x compliant > > boards do this. Nothing from ASUS can run this card, infact about > > the only thing I have found that can run this card is old PCI 1.x > > boards with jumpers to manually route the interrupts. > > Ok, help clear some things up for me here. > > The dual port 10/100 PCI card is the SMC9334, right? Not sure, I have not looked at that card, nor does my distibutor catalog list that part number. > > The SMC8434 is the dual port 10Mbps PCI, right? Yes. > > Now which of those two works and which doesn't? I don't know anything about the SMC9334, but the SMC8434 has some very special motherboard requirements, which I can't find anyone's board that has them (or atleast any current production board that has both INT A and INT B routable to a slot). -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 12:03:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10829 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10817 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10689; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:03:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199611282003.MAA10689@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: multiport ethernet In-Reply-To: <199611272355.KAA24753@gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au> from Gavin Cameron at "Nov 28, 96 10:55:24 am" To: gavin@ormond.unimelb.edu.au (Gavin Cameron) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:03:30 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > Quoting Gary Clark II (gclarkii@main.gbdata.com): > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Has one used the Cogent Quartet lately? I need to produce a low > > > > cost ethernet router here and this thing looks like it should give > > > > me the most bang for the buck. > > > > > > > > > > SMC has a dual port 10/100 card, SMC8434, that can be had for > > > $230US. If you don't need high port density this one may be a > > > better deal. Don't know if it works with the de driver. > > > > > > John Capo > > > > > > > > > > I use a Znyx 314 (http://www.znyx.com/) Works very fine and has a suggest price > > around $400 I think. > > > > Is anyone, anyone at all, currently doing any work to get the znyx 346 > supported? I've sent some email to the guy at 3am software but I don't seem > to get any replies :-(. I have Matt's latest code and am trying to intergrate it into both FreeBSD-current and 2.1.6. That code does appear to have support for the Zynx 346 from a quick grep: dc21040.h:#define TULIP_ZNYX_ID_ZX346 0x0E01 dc21040.h:#define TULIP_GP_ZX346_PINS 0x00000143 /* General Purpose Pin directions */ dc21040.h:#define TULIP_GP_ZX346_AUTONEG_ENABLED 0x00000020 /* 802.3u autoneg enabled */ dc21040.h:#define TULIP_GP_ZX346_SPEED100 0x00000008 /* 100Mb speed detect */ dc21040.h:#define TULIP_GP_ZX346_FULLDUPLEX 0x00000004 /* Full Duplex Sensed */ if_de.c: } else if (id == TULIP_ZNYX_ID_ZX346) { SkyRsh# -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 14:24:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17001 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16993 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA07472; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:26:29 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:26:28 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Travis Mikalson cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Idle Timeout In-Reply-To: <329DE103.654D@terranova.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Travis Mikalson wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD as a terminal server (w/ Cyclades) and was wondering > how I could implement an idle timeout on ports ttyc* of some sort... Are you running shell accounts, iijppp or pppd? iijppp has its own idle timeout code. tcsh has idle timeout code. I've written a program which does idle timeout on pppds but I have not yet got it to start up automatically. (Too many other things to do.) You can have it to play with if you like. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 15:28:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18538 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from obiwan.TerraNova.net (obiwan.TerraNova.net [205.152.26.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18532 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from coolholio.TerraNova.net (coolholio@coolholio.TerraNova.net [205.152.26.130]) by obiwan.TerraNova.net (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20562; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:34:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329E1F58.7191@terranova.net> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:25:12 -0500 From: Travis Mikalson Reply-To: tmikalson@obiwan.terranova.net Organization: TerraNovaNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" CC: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Idle Timeout References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > Are you running shell accounts, iijppp or pppd? pppd 2.2.0 > iijppp has its own idle timeout code. tcsh has idle timeout code. I've > written a program which does idle timeout on pppds but I have not yet got > it to start up automatically. (Too many other things to do.) You can Something wrong with cron? > have it to play with if you like. Yea, I'd like to play with that... I can't have idle users hogging my lines like this :/ Happy Thanksgiving, Travis -- --==--===---====----======------=======------- TerraNovaNet Internet Inc. - Key Largo, FL Voice: (305)453-4011 Fax: (305)451-5991 http://www.TerraNova.net "I Think Sometimes, Therefore I Am Illogical!" -------=======------======----====---===--==-- -- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 28 16:11:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19712 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 16:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19706 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 16:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA07623; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:13:54 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:13:54 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Travis Mikalson cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Idle Timeout In-Reply-To: <329E1F58.7191@terranova.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Travis Mikalson wrote: > Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > Are you running shell accounts, iijppp or pppd? > pppd 2.2.0 > > > iijppp has its own idle timeout code. tcsh has idle timeout code. I've > > written a program which does idle timeout on pppds but I have not yet got > > it to start up automatically. (Too many other things to do.) You can > Something wrong with cron? OK, you can get it from ftp.hilink.com.au:/pub/Net/watchifpkts.tgz Syntax is: watchifpkts ppp0 20 5 12345 which means watch ppp0; idle is a 20 minute block with less than 5 packets per minute each minute. HUP process 12345 if idle. BUGS: the watcher uses sleep(60). If it finds the if is down, it exits, but it is possible for a user to log out, and another to log in on the same interface in that 60 second period. The original watcher will not notice, and will have the wrong pid. The best way to start it would be for pppd to fork and exec, after it has decided on its ppp interface number. pppd should also send the watcher a TERM when it is exiting, to avoid the problem in the above paragraph. Best of all would be for this to be integrated into pppd itself. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 29 11:24:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01117 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from orka.linkeasy.net (orka.linkeasy.net [206.117.216.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01110 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from shit.linkeasy.net ([206.117.216.228]) by orka.linkeasy.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24766 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:21:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:21:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611291921.LAA24766@orka.linkeasy.net> X-Sender: admin@mail.linkeasy.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org From: Mike Parks Subject: Adding a disk Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just setup a news server. It has two disks now. /dev/hda1 /root 700Mb /dev/hda2 /swap 40Mb /dev/sda1 /var/spool 1gig I want to put a 4 gig drive on and move /var/spool to it and remove the 1gig scsi that is currently /var/spool. Do I just mount the 4 gig as /mnt then mv /var/spool over ? From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 29 12:31:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA05299 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05294 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA28594 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:47:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA28026 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:27:12 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:27:11 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a disk In-Reply-To: <199611291921.LAA24766@orka.linkeasy.net> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Mike Parks wrote: > I just setup a news server. It has two disks now. > > /dev/hda1 /root 700Mb > /dev/hda2 /swap 40Mb > > /dev/sda1 /var/spool 1gig > > I want to put a 4 gig drive on and move /var/spool to it and remove the 1gig > scsi that is currently /var/spool. > > Do I just mount the 4 gig as /mnt then mv /var/spool over ? ctlinnd shutdown now mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt cd /var/spool tar cf - . |(cd /mnt;tar xf -) cd / umount /mnt umount /var/spool mount /dev/sdb1 /var/spool /etc/rc.news vi /etc/fstab # make sure to change the entry for /var/spool here Of course you should leave the old 1gig drive in place and move your history files to it. Also you should create a subdirectory on the one gig drive and change the overview in newsfeeds and expire to use this new overview partition. The IDE drive should do nothing but swap and root partition. Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 29 17:07:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16246 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 17:07:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from revelstone.jvm.com (revelstone.jvm.com [207.98.213.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16241; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 17:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fbsdlist@localhost) by revelstone.jvm.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA24909; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:06:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:06:56 -0500 (EST) From: Cliff Addy To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD as a router Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We're about to install a T-1 line into our office. One option we'd like to consider is to use a freebsd box as the router rather than a dedicated box. Cost is one consideration, but another is that if a component dies, we're probably a lot more likely to be able to patch it back together. However, 1) Performance. Can a fbsd box match the performance of a dedicated router? 2) Information. There's a great attractiveness in a drop-in solution like a dedicated router. Where can we find the info on the hardware/software/configuration required to build a router based on fbsd. 3) Growth. We envision growth to the point of needing a dual T-1, then stepping up to a T-3. Can we grow with an fbsd box? Thanks for any insight you can provide. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 30 21:22:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA01596 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from inetsrv.wtrt.net (inetsrv.wtrt.net [205.231.181.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01591 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from allen (ppp02.wtrt.net [205.231.181.72]) by inetsrv.wtrt.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA07105 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 23:23:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199612010523.XAA07105@inetsrv.wtrt.net> From: "Allen Hyer" To: Subject: wuftpd questions Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 23:21:52 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am using 2.1.5-Release, and have installed wu-ftpd. No problems with that, but now I have a couple of questions regarding its operation. 1. When a user logs on to the ftp daemon, can I restrict them to where the only directory they can see is their home directory? It would be nice if their home directory showed up as their "root" directory. 2. When connecting to the ftp daemon from Internet Explorer, when you select a file to start downloading, the dialog box that shows the progress says "file size unknown". Is there something in the setup that will allow it to tell Exporer the size of the file that is being downloaded? Thanks, and thanks to those that have replied to my previous questions about FreeBSD. Allen Hyer System Administrator West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 30 22:19:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA03294 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 22:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03288 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 22:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from tracyphi (wok3-11.memphis.edu [141.225.224.71]) by cedar.netten.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA21200 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 00:20:46 -0600 Message-ID: <32A12400.254@cedar.netten.net> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 00:21:52 -0600 From: "Tracy E. Phillips" Reply-To: tphilips@cedar.netten.net Organization: redpoint.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Dnews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi, Is it possible to run the BSDI or Linux Dnews? If not what are most people using for news these days Cnews, INN....? Thanks, Tracy Phillips