From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 02:08:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA26117 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id CAA26112 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:08:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.6/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA22279; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:07:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612221007.CAA22279@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Bradley Dunn cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UUNET vs Netcom In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 21 Dec 1996 23:01:51 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:07:47 -0800 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, David Greenman wrote: > >> CRL peers with Sprint at the PB-NAP to avoid congestion that Sprint has >> at MAE-west (and probably for other reasons, such as load balancing their >> own circuits). Last time I looked, MCI peered with Sprint on the west coast >> through a dedicated circuit. > >CRL also peers at mae-west: > 3 sl-chi-6-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.50.6) 13.410 ms 19.669 ms 13.291 ms > 4 144.228.10.54 (144.228.10.54) 52.305 ms 52.294 ms 57.106 ms > 5 sl-stk-1-F/T.sprintlink.net (198.67.6.1) 53.130 ms 57.866 ms 59.603 ms > 6 sl-mae-w-H3/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.110) 55.692 ms 68.072 ms 55.365 ms > 7 T3-CRL-SFO-01-H1/0.US.CRL.NET (198.32.136.10) 72.085 ms 141.506 ms 230.938 ms > >Much better than when it all went over the CIX, though. > >Yes, basically at every exchange point city MCI + Sprint have a private >interconnect to bypass the XPs. I should have said that CRL peers with Sprint at PB-NAP, MAE-west, MAE-east, and the CIX. They set their routing to prefer PB-NAP, but it looks like Sprint is sending inbound traffic for CRL to MAE-west at the moment. Outbound is going to PB-NAP: [wcarchive:davidg] traceroute ftp.sprint.net traceroute to ftp.sprint.net (204.117.214.13), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 T3-GW1.US.CRL.NET (165.113.55.1) 1.602 ms 1.366 ms 1.002 ms 2 pb-nap-A.sprint.net (198.32.128.11) 2.740 ms 3.658 ms 3.830 ms 3 sl-stk-6-H4/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.49) 39.622 ms 267.059 ms 6.374 ms 4 sl-stk-2-F/T.sprintlink.net (198.67.6.2) 5.989 ms 8.196 ms 6.180 ms 5 sl-dc-7-H4/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.106) 59.005 ms 64.699 ms 58.339 ms 6 sl-dc-s-F0.sprintlink.net (144.228.20.121) 61.778 ms 58.949 ms 60.508 ms 7 ftp.sprintlink.net (204.117.214.13) 58.504 ms 59.277 ms 58.517 ms -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 06:20:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA04310 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 06:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from revelstone.jvm.com (revelstone.jvm.com [207.98.213.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA04305 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 06:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fbsdlist@localhost) by revelstone.jvm.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA01739; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:20:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:20:08 -0500 (EST) From: Cliff Addy To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Digex? Was: UUNET vs Netcom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for all the feedback on UUNET and Netcom (and Sprint and MCI and ...). Several people wrote and suggested Digex. Of all the providers, they seemed the most attractive, especially the $0 installation fee. Does anyone else use Digex and have any experiences to relate? From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 06:56:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA05607 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 06:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.fasts.com (root@server.fasts.com [199.125.215.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA05602 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 06:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.fasts.com ([199.125.215.66]) by fasts.com with SMTP id <115-223>; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 16:55:58 +0000 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 16:55:57 +0000 () From: Victor Rotanov To: Cliff Addy cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Digex? Was: UUNET vs Netcom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Cliff! On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Cliff Addy wrote: > Thanks for all the feedback on UUNET and Netcom (and Sprint and MCI and ...). > Several people wrote and suggested Digex. Of all the providers, they seemed > the most attractive, especially the $0 installation fee. Does anyone else > use Digex and have any experiences to relate? > ISP where i am connected to (LvNet-Teleport) is connected to Digex and they say Digex is very good. Thanks, bye. vitjok From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 07:42:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA07802 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoom.bga.com (root@zoom.realtime.net [205.238.128.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA07797 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:42:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from wep54-133 (wep54-133.camel.com [204.251.34.204]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA11340 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:42:10 -0600 Message-ID: <32BD56FE.3658@camel.com> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:42:54 -0600 From: dooby X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: access.conf in Apache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone point me to instructions how to restrict access to a directory to just one user using access.conf in the Apache web server? From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 08:37:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA10077 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 08:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA10071 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 08:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbws.etinc.com (ppp-07.etinc.com [204.141.95.130]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA03337 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:42:01 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961222115237.0068f068@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:52:41 -0500 To: isp@freebsd.com From: dennis Subject: Re: UUNET vs Netcom Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:38 PM 12/21/96 -0800, you wrote: >>> > We left UUNET for sprint. UUNET had much better customer service, but >>> > with sprint we rarily need any customer service whereas with UUNET we did >>> > (they dropped alot etc) >>> >>> On the other hand, Sprint seems to have a lot of routing problems... >> >>I dont agree. Sprint is often blamed for routing problems, but most >>problems, when tracerouted etc were at MAE points. And places like >>ftp.cdrom.com no long route thru them etc. > > The routing issues with Sprint seem to have improved a little, but it >wasn't but just a few months ago that the Sprint network flapped so badly >that it was usuable. I think these problems have mostly been isolated and >dealt with (there was a flakey router in Dallas/FW that was lots of trouble, >plus various IOS problems in DC and Stockton). I was very happy when my >ISP here changed to default to MCI rather than Sprint...especially since >MCI had just done some major upgrades that helped things a bunch. > CRL peers with Sprint at the PB-NAP to avoid congestion that Sprint has >at MAE-west (and probably for other reasons, such as load balancing their >own circuits). Last time I looked, MCI peered with Sprint on the west coast >through a dedicated circuit. Aside from this discussion, Netcom (which the orginal question was about) has many points that are severe bottlenecks (like servicing many T1 and 56k customers with a single T1 backbone link)....so you really have to do some reseach on your "distance" from the net with them. They have a tendency to grossly oversell bandwidth which obscures the value of the service you receive. Dennis From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 10:23:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA15088 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA15083 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA04853; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:27:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:27:00 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Cliff Addy cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UUNET vs Netcom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Right now, we have a line to UUnet in NYC; a year and a half ago it was pretty nice, but at this point it seems they have some serious problems keeping up with the amount of connections they've sold. I've seen ridiculous packet loss to another UUnet customer in the city and calls to their NOC team have been futile. Our line goes down at least once a week after their "maintenance windows". I'm not sure if this is just a problem in NYC or not, so you might be OK out of this area. Also it seems that their partnership with MFS *should* mean that they can easily expand their network, but I haven't seen any swift action on the NY problem yet. We were also paying about $2300 until they mistakenly "cold-called" us with an offer of a T1 for $1700... Good luck, Charles On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Cliff Addy wrote: > We need some fast input on any experience of uunet vs netcom. We need to > install a t-1 to our office. There is a vast difference in monthly cost > ($2200 vs 1200) in these two. Obviously, anything *they* say in terms of > uptime, loads, support, etc, wil be glowing. Do any of the ISPs here have > any input on these issues? Is there another provider we should be looking > at. The rush is on because if we go with uunet, we need to beat a monday > deadline on an end-of-year special they're running. > > Thanks so much for any input you can provide :) > > Cliff > > From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 10:46:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA15619 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from db2.max5.com (hd17-058.compuserve.com [199.174.221.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA15614 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from free.max5.com (free.max5.com [10.183.24.26]) by db2.max5.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00629 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:51:13 -0500 Received: by free.max5.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBF00F.A97AE5C0@free.max5.com>; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:54:34 -0500 Message-ID: <01BBF00F.A97AE5C0@free.max5.com> From: David Botton To: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: unsubscirbe Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:54:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 14:23:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA22474 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from luke.cpl.net (root@[206.85.246.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA22450; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04621; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:24:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:24:13 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Ramsey X-Sender: shawn@luke.cpl.net To: isp@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: testing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just testing the list, last time I joined it wouldnt let me post, for some reason. From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 22 20:45:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA15567 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA15562 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA25297 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:45:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:40:49 -0500 () From: Bradley Dunn Reply-To: Bradley Dunn To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail queue processing Message-ID: X-X-Sender: bradley@harborcom.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. We have a customer that is using the ETRN feature of sendmail 8.8 to retrieve mail for their domain. We are the lowest MX for their host, and we have O TryNullMXList in sendmail.cf to make sendmail try the host directly. It is all working fine, except some, but not all, mail for their domain takes a loooong time to get delivered. For example, sometimes mail from our server to their server generates a "message undelivered after four hours" warning. They are calling in and running ETRN every 15 minutes, 24x7. Now my guess as to the problem is that the messages queued for them are locked by sendmail's normal processing of the queue. Is that a valid diagnosis? We have an unusually large queue, I suppose, as we are one of the mail relays for the FreeBSD mailing lists. Our queue usually ranges from 300-500 messages. We are using -q30m. The only solution I can think of is to up the interval between queue runs, therefore lessening the chance that the queued messages for our customer will be locked when they do an ETRN. That solution is obviously sub-optimal. I suppose the optimal solution would be to tell sendmail not to process the queued messages for this customer unless explicitly told to do so with an ETRN. Is that possible? Any ideas? -BD From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 02:14:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA27359 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 02:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from axe.cablenet.net (axe.cablenet.net [194.154.36.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA27333 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 02:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from damian@localhost) by axe.cablenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA11077 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:12:07 GMT Message-Id: <199612231012.KAA11077@axe.cablenet.net> Subject: Re: getty login prompt delay To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:12:06 +0000 (GMT) From: "Damian Hamill" In-Reply-To: <199612201657.QAA05634@axe.cablenet.net> from "Damian Hamill" at Dec 20, 96 04:57:51 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wrote: > > I'm convinced that the reason why I am still getting handshake errors is > that upon connection getty is firing off the login prompt before the > winsock is ready for it and it's getting lost. How do I make getty > delay a while before issueing the login prompt or where are the sources > so I can patch getty if it doesn't support this feature ? I found the sources, added a delay option to gettytab and hey presto I've since been getting a 97% connection success rate. Who should I mail the patch to ? regards damian -- "There's plenty of rainforest" - A person selling Living Marxism at Edinburgh Festival. Damian Hamill damian@cablenet.net From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 03:06:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA29045 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 03:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpit.thrush.com (rd@tarpit.magicnet.net [206.104.206.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id DAA29039 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 03:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rd@localhost) by tarpit.thrush.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) id GAA08079; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:06:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: "R.D. Thrush" Message-Id: <199612231106.GAA08079@tarpit.thrush.com> To: Bradley Dunn CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Sendmail queue processing In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've used Paul Pomes re-mqueue.pl for the past year to improve sendmail efficiency in a similar situation. (It has been in contrib/ in the past several sendmail distributions). Extracted from the source: # Rationale: With a limited number of sendmail processes allowed to run, # messages that can't be delivered immediately slow down the ones that can. # This becomes especially important when messages are being queued instead # of delivered right away, or when the queue becomes excessively deep. # By putting messages that have already failed one or more delivery attempts # into another queue, the primary queue can be kept small and fast. I run sendmail -bd -q15m and process an ave. of 25,000 messages/day. Messages start moving into the slower queues after 45 minutes in the main mqueue. >>>>> "b" == Bradley Dunn writes: b> We have a customer that is using the ETRN feature of sendmail 8.8 to b> retrieve mail for their domain. We are the lowest MX for their host, and b> we have O TryNullMXList in sendmail.cf to make sendmail try the host b> directly. b> It is all working fine, except some, but not all, mail for their domain b> takes a loooong time to get delivered. For example, sometimes mail from b> our server to their server generates a "message undelivered after four b> hours" warning. They are calling in and running ETRN every 15 minutes, b> 24x7. b> Now my guess as to the problem is that the messages queued for them are b> locked by sendmail's normal processing of the queue. Is that a valid b> diagnosis? We have an unusually large queue, I suppose, as we are one of b> the mail relays for the FreeBSD mailing lists. Our queue usually ranges b> from 300-500 messages. We are using -q30m. b> The only solution I can think of is to up the interval between queue runs, b> therefore lessening the chance that the queued messages for our customer b> will be locked when they do an ETRN. That solution is obviously b> sub-optimal. b> I suppose the optimal solution would be to tell sendmail not to process b> the queued messages for this customer unless explicitly told to do so with b> an ETRN. Is that possible? b> Any ideas? b> -BD From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 05:07:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA03135 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 05:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.84.158.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA03126 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 05:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA20287; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:10:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:10:58 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Damian Hamill cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: getty login prompt delay In-Reply-To: <199612231012.KAA11077@axe.cablenet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Damian Hamill wrote: > > I found the sources, added a delay option to gettytab and hey presto > I've since been getting a 97% connection success rate. > > Who should I mail the patch to ? I used a more 'brute force' method and added a sleep(1) into the getty program, but I'd like to see your patch. I'll trade you for my more than 32 sio ports patch ;-) Actually the patch does two things to sio.c in 2.1.6. 1. It adds DCD/DSR swapping support for boards like the Boca BB2016 which uses 10pin RJ45s (RJ68) which are hard to find and expensive and unfortunately have DCD on pin 1! By swapping DCD/DSR you can get away with RJ45s since the other signal lost is Ring. You can enable this feature turn in on Bit 4 in the flags during kernel config. 2. To allow upto 256 sio ports (I don't think that the hardware can run THAT fast) I've moved the Callout, Lock and Init bits From 7,6,5 to 18,17,16. This enables support for oodles more ports. My current config is 1 Boca BB2016 (16 ports as sio 0-15), plus 2 Digi PC/8 as sio16-23 and 24-31, as well as the regular com1 and com2 in the machine setup as sio32 and sio33 respectively for a total of 34 ports. Now that there are more than 32 ports, I renamed some of the device entries as follows: ttyd0-v first 32 ports ttye0-v next 32 ports ttyf0-v, and so on... to ttyk0-v for a total of 256. the cua devices were also illogically defined. What's the relationship between ttyd0 and cuaa0? To that end I've renamed cuaa to cuad so the dialouts are cuad0-v, cuae0-v, etc. Not too important, they're only used to program the modems once in a while. You'll need to modifiy /dev/MAKEDEV to reflect the changes to the lock, callout and init bits: cuad?|cua?) umask 7 unit=`expr $i : 'cua.*\(.\)$'` rm -f cua*d$unit m=`ttyminor $unit` mknod cuad$unit c 28 `expr $m + 262144` mknod cuaid$unit c 28 `expr $m + 65536 + 262144` mknod cuald$unit c 28 `expr $m + 131072 + 262144` chown uucp.dialer cua*d$unit umask 77 ;; tty0?|ttyd?|tty?) unit=`expr $i : 'tty.*\(.\)$'` rm -f tty*d$unit m=`ttyminor $unit` mknod ttyd$unit c 28 $m mknod ttyid$unit c 28 `expr $m + 65536` mknod ttyld$unit c 28 `expr $m + 131072` chown root.wheel tty*d$unit ;; Or as a total hack you can generate all the devices you'll need like this: allmdm) count=0 # Only do 128 for now. for x in d e f g # Uncomment to do all 256. # for x in d e f g h i j k do for y in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v do rm -f tty$x$y tty[il]$x$y cua$x$y cua[il]$x$y mknod tty$x$y c 28 $count mknod ttyi$x$y c 28 `expr $count + 65536` mknod ttyl$x$y c 28 `expr $count + 131072` mknod cua$x$y c 28 `expr $count + 262144` mknod cuai$x$y c 28 `expr $count + 262144 + 65536` mknod cual$x$y c 28 `expr $count + 262144 + 131072` chown root.wheel tty*$x$y chown uucp.dialer cua*$x$y count=`expr $count + 1` done done ;; Oh yeah, the patch: --- cut here --- *** sio.c.orig Fri Nov 15 18:36:37 1996 --- sio.c Fri Dec 20 11:24:46 1996 *************** *** 70,79 **** #define RB_I_HIGH_WATER (TTYHOG - 2 * RS_IBUFSIZE) #define RS_IBUFSIZE 256 ! #define CALLOUT_MASK 0x80 ! #define CONTROL_MASK 0x60 ! #define CONTROL_INIT_STATE 0x20 ! #define CONTROL_LOCK_STATE 0x40 #define DEV_TO_UNIT(dev) (MINOR_TO_UNIT(minor(dev))) #define MINOR_MAGIC_MASK (CALLOUT_MASK | CONTROL_MASK) #define MINOR_TO_UNIT(mynor) ((mynor) & ~MINOR_MAGIC_MASK) --- 70,79 ---- #define RB_I_HIGH_WATER (TTYHOG - 2 * RS_IBUFSIZE) #define RS_IBUFSIZE 256 ! #define CALLOUT_MASK 0x40000 /* 262144 - AW */ ! #define CONTROL_MASK 0x30000 ! #define CONTROL_INIT_STATE 0x10000 /* 65536 */ ! #define CONTROL_LOCK_STATE 0x20000 /* 131072 */ #define DEV_TO_UNIT(dev) (MINOR_TO_UNIT(minor(dev))) #define MINOR_MAGIC_MASK (CALLOUT_MASK | CONTROL_MASK) #define MINOR_TO_UNIT(mynor) ((mynor) & ~MINOR_MAGIC_MASK) *************** *** 90,95 **** --- 90,99 ---- #define COM_LOSESOUTINTS(dev) ((dev)->id_flags & 0x08) #define COM_NOFIFO(dev) ((dev)->id_flags & 0x02) #define COM_VERBOSE(dev) ((dev)->id_flags & 0x80) + #define COM_SWAPDCDDSR(dev) ((dev)->id_flags & 0x10) + #define SWAPMASKDCD (MSR_DCD | MSR_DDCD) + #define SWAPMASKDSR (MSR_DSR | MSR_DDSR) + #define SWAPMASKDCDDSR (SWAPMASKDCD | SWAPMASKDSR) #define com_scr 7 /* scratch register for 16450-16550 (R/W) */ *************** *** 168,173 **** --- 172,178 ---- #ifdef COM_MULTIPORT bool_t multiport; /* is this unit part of a multiport device? */ #endif /* COM_MULTIPORT */ + bool_t swapdcddsr; bool_t no_irq; /* nonzero if irq is not attached */ bool_t poll; /* nonzero if polling is required */ bool_t poll_output; /* nonzero if polling for output is required */ *************** *** 410,415 **** --- 415,421 ---- } } #endif /* COM_MULTIPORT */ + if (idev->id_irq == 0) mcr_image = 0; *************** *** 683,688 **** --- 689,698 ---- outb(iobase + com_fifo, 0); determined_type: ; + if (COM_SWAPDCDDSR(isdp)) { + com->swapdcddsr = TRUE; + printf (" DSR<->DCD "); + } #ifdef COM_MULTIPORT if (COM_ISMULTIPORT(isdp)) { com->multiport = TRUE; *************** *** 752,757 **** --- 762,768 ---- int s; struct tty *tp; int unit; + u_char tmp1; mynor = minor(dev); unit = MINOR_TO_UNIT(mynor); *************** *** 857,864 **** disable_intr(); (void) inb(com->line_status_port); (void) inb(com->data_port); ! com->prev_modem_status = com->last_modem_status ! = inb(com->modem_status_port); outb(iobase + com_ier, IER_ERXRDY | IER_ETXRDY | IER_ERLS | IER_EMSC); enable_intr(); --- 868,884 ---- disable_intr(); (void) inb(com->line_status_port); (void) inb(com->data_port); ! tmp1 = inb(com->modem_status_port); ! if (com->swapdcddsr) ! com->prev_modem_status = com->last_modem_status = ! ((tmp1 & ~SWAPMASKDCDDSR) ! | ((tmp1 & SWAPMASKDCD) >> 2) ! | ((tmp1 & SWAPMASKDSR) << 2)); ! else ! com->prev_modem_status = com->last_modem_status = tmp1; ! ! ! outb(iobase + com_ier, IER_ERXRDY | IER_ETXRDY | IER_ERLS | IER_EMSC); enable_intr(); *************** *** 1102,1107 **** --- 1122,1128 ---- u_char modem_status; u_char *ioptr; u_char recv_data; + u_char tmp1; if (com->do_timestamp) /* XXX a little bloat here... */ *************** *** 1187,1193 **** } /* modem status change? (always check before doing output) */ ! modem_status = inb(com->modem_status_port); if (modem_status != com->last_modem_status) { /* * Schedule high level to handle DCD changes. Note --- 1208,1220 ---- } /* modem status change? (always check before doing output) */ ! tmp1 = inb(com->modem_status_port); ! if (com->swapdcddsr) ! modem_status = ((tmp1 & ~SWAPMASKDCDDSR) ! | ((tmp1 & SWAPMASKDCD) >> 2) ! | ((tmp1 & SWAPMASKDSR) << 2)); ! else ! modem_status = tmp1; if (modem_status != com->last_modem_status) { /* * Schedule high level to handle DCD changes. Note --- cut here --- Regards, Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 06:28:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA05697 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsight.com (adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA05692 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from webadmin@localhost) by adsight.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA10722; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:23:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:23:17 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Magee To: Cliff Addy cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Digex? Was: UUNET vs Netcom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Cliff Addy wrote: > Thanks for all the feedback on UUNET and Netcom (and Sprint and MCI and ...). > Several people wrote and suggested Digex. Of all the providers, they seemed > the most attractive, especially the $0 installation fee. Does anyone else > use Digex and have any experiences to relate? > > I use a Digex Frame Relay Fractional T1 and have had no problems with it -- also the price was very competitive compared to UUNET and Netcom and PSI. Their tech support is also very good. Sam Magee adsight.com From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 10:21:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA13349 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA13344 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0vcEzx-0008tXC; Mon, 23 Dec 96 10:21 PST Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: getty login prompt delay To: andrew@pubnix.net Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:21:13 -0800 (PST) Cc: damian@cablenet.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Webster" at Dec 23, 96 08:10:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1. It adds DCD/DSR swapping support for boards like the Boca BB2016 > which uses 10pin RJ45s (RJ68) which are hard to find and expensive *Now* someone does that! (After I've invested in a bazillion 10-8 cables!) :-) -- Alan Batie ______ batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Assimilate this! +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Worf, First Contact DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 10:55:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA15200 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.84.158.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA15192 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA20731; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:59:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:59:05 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Alan Batie cc: damian@cablenet.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: getty login prompt delay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Alan Batie wrote: > > 1. It adds DCD/DSR swapping support for boards like the Boca BB2016 > > which uses 10pin RJ45s (RJ68) which are hard to find and expensive > > *Now* someone does that! (After I've invested in a bazillion 10-8 cables!) > :-) You should have asked sooner ;-) I cooked that patch up about 6 months ago. I had originally posted it to hackers but the 'powers that be' weren't interested in it. > > -- > Alan Batie ______ > batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Assimilate this! > +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Worf, First Contact > DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 > > It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which > use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 12:27:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA21217 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 12:27:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lonepeak.vii.com (lonepeak.vii.com [206.71.77.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA21212 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 12:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from utility.intcomm.net (utility.intcomm.net [204.95.133.249]) by lonepeak.vii.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA08463; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:26:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199612232026.NAA08463@lonepeak.vii.com> From: "Jim Bentley" To: Cc: Subject: DUMP and RMT Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:27:09 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm using two machines running ver 2.1.5. I'm trying to backup a file system /usr/local located on system 1 onto a tape drive in system 2. dump 0usfd 1440 system2:/dev/st0ctl.0 300000 /usr/local I get Permission denied. TCP_MAXSEG set sockopt: Badfiledescriptor Any ideas? Jim From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 13:36:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA24405 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA24400 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:36:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA03055; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:35:22 -0800 (PST) To: andrew@pubnix.net cc: Alan Batie , damian@cablenet.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getty login prompt delay In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:59:05 EST." Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:35:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3051.851376921@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > You should have asked sooner ;-) I cooked that patch up about 6 months > ago. I had originally posted it to hackers but the 'powers that be' > weren't interested in it. No, you just chose the wrong submission method. :-( Please, use send-pr(1). Sending something to one of the mailing lists and hoping that someone will commit it from there is like hoping you'll win the lottery - it's a nice dream, but you shouldn't count on it. ;) Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 15:50:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA29307 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA29280 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from luiz@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA09778; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:49:01 -0200 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:49:00 -0200 (EDT) From: Luiz de Barros To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: PPPgetty for Terminal Server. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Netters, We use a FreeBSD2.1.5-RELEASE as a terminal server for our dial-in users and would like to make automatic the PPP login with Windows95, without having to install a scripter. Where can i found pppgetty? Regards, Luiz Nlink ISP From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 23 16:41:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA02340 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA02335 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA28058; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:38:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32BF25BB.31DFF4F5@whistle.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:37:15 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Bentley CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: DUMP and RMT References: <199612232026.NAA08463@lonepeak.vii.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Bentley wrote: > > I'm using two machines running ver 2.1.5. > > I'm trying to backup a file system /usr/local located on system 1 onto a > tape drive in system 2. > > dump 0usfd 1440 system2:/dev/st0ctl.0 300000 /usr/local try /dev/rst0 /dev/st0ctl.0 is the control device it is incapable of doing any IO > > I get > > Permission denied. > TCP_MAXSEG set sockopt: > Badfiledescriptor > > Any ideas? > > Jim From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 25 07:20:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA14194 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 07:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv.imlaurier.qc.ca (root@IMLAURIER.QC.CA [206.47.102.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA14175 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 07:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by srv.imlaurier.qc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA05241; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 10:07:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 10:07:44 -0500 (EST) From: Real Melancon To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: New domain... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi to all of you. I'd like to have more informations about adding new domain name on the server. Any suggestions, tips, etc... would be welcome. I'm using Freebsd 2.0.5, have no problem with it, but I must admit I don't know much about adding domain names. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 25 08:17:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA15306 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA15301 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA00279; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:16:30 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: bitbucket.edmweb.com: steve owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:16:28 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Reid To: Real Melancon cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New domain... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I'm using Freebsd 2.0.5, have no problem with it, but >I must admit I don't know much about adding domain >names. The O'Reilly & Associates book "TCP/IP Network Administration" has, among other things, some named info. It's enough to get a nameserver up and running. If you need more, there's a "DNS and BIND" book from the same publisher. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 25 08:56:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA16108 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from bullfrog.ecpnet.com (raistlin@bullfrog.ecpnet.com [204.246.64.212]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA16103 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (raistlin@localhost) by bullfrog.ecpnet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA04096; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 10:56:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 10:56:07 -0600 (CST) From: raistlin To: Steve Reid cc: Real Melancon , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New domain... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 25 Dec 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > >I'm using Freebsd 2.0.5, have no problem with it, but > >I must admit I don't know much about adding domain > >names. > > The O'Reilly & Associates book "TCP/IP Network Administration" has, among > other things, some named info. It's enough to get a nameserver up and > running. If you need more, there's a "DNS and BIND" book from the same > publisher. > > www.internic.net will have all soft of info on getting your name going and how to maintain things plus a few links. Justen Stepka raistlin@ecpnet.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 25 12:04:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA20325 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 12:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA20320 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 12:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA19812; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:06:11 GMT Received: from buffnet7.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa13625; 25 Dec 96 15:04 EST Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:04:20 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Hovey To: Real Melancon cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New domain... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thats too general - are you looking to add domains for email, or just to add a domain to the name server, or to add www.etc for multiple domains for the web? They are not all the same thing. On Wed, 25 Dec 1996, Real Melancon wrote: > > Hi to all of you. I'd like to have more informations > about adding new domain name on the server. > > Any suggestions, tips, etc... would be welcome. > > > I'm using Freebsd 2.0.5, have no problem with it, but > I must admit I don't know much about adding domain > names. > > Thanks. > > From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 01:04:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA14877 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 01:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from Guard.Polynet.Lviv.UA (Guard.PolyNet.Lviv.UA [194.44.138.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA14865 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 01:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by Guard.Polynet.Lviv.UA (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA09714 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:03:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from netsurfer.lp.lviv.ua(192.168.0.3) by Guard.Polynet.Lviv.UA via smap (V2.0beta) id xma009712; Thu, 26 Dec 96 11:03:30 +0200 Received: (from smap@localhost) by NetSurfer.lp.lviv.ua (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA17460 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:02:15 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199612260902.LAA17460@NetSurfer.lp.lviv.ua> Received: from ws49.lp.lviv.ua(192.168.0.49) by NetSurfer.lp.lviv.ua via smap (V2.0beta) id xma017458; Thu, 26 Dec 96 11:01:46 +0200 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Adrian Pavlykevych" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:04:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Gated exits unexpectantly Reply-to: pam@polynet.lviv.ua Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi everybody, I'm using gated 3.6a2 on FreeBSD 2.1.5. It is used to route trafic using OSPF from couple of dedicated leased lines (PPP). I'm experiencing periodical exits with signal 6. Here are log file entries: Dec 25 14:24:01 NetSurfer gated[25364]: task_set_option: task OSPF socket 11 option GroupDrop(11) interface 192.168.8.129(ppp1) group 224.0.0.5: Can't assign requested address Dec 25 14:24:01 NetSurfer gated[25364]:if_rtup: UP route for interface ppp1 192.168.8.129/255.255.255.255 Dec 25 14:24:01 NetSurfer gated[25364]: task_set_option: task OSPF socket 11 option GroupAdd(10) interface 192.168.8.129(ppp1) group 224.0.0.5: Address already in use Dec 25 14:24:02 NetSurfer gated[25364]: Assertion failed gated[25364]: file "ospf_init.c", line 1834: "!intf" Dec 25 14:24:02 NetSurfer vmunix: pid 25364 (gated), uid 0:exited on signal 6 Can anybody give some suggestion on diagnosing the problem? TIA, Adrian Pavlykevych | State University "Lvivska Polytechnica" System Administrator | 12, St. Bandery str, Campus Computer Network | Lviv, 290646 email: pam@polynet.lviv.ua | Ukraine tel/fax:+380 (322) 742041 | From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 07:48:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA24753 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 07:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA24721; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 07:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntws (ntws.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA03090; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:52:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961226104713.00ae68a0@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:47:15 -0500 To: Luigi Rizzo From: dennis Subject: Re: ipretard.c selective tcp/ip queues and throughput limiters Cc: isp@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 09:24 PM 12/23/96 +0100, you wrote: >> Luigi Rizzo wrote: > >> > very useful. The only drawback is the overhead that this (and basically >> > everything using the divert socket) has: packets move to user space and >> > back, something you don't want to do on high-speed traffic. >. >> but as Kieth sklower at CSRG told me.. >> There's got to be a way to make it possible for essoteric or unusual >> modules to be implimented OUT OF THE KERNEL, or >> they are >> (1) hard to prototype >> (2) increasing the complexity of what IS in the kernel beyond the >> point of debuggability :) > >which is why I like very much the idea of divert sockets, tun devices >and similar things, but only when used in the proper way (e.g. >prototyping and/or slow speeds). Our "soon-to-be-released" version 2.0 of ET/BWMGR does this inline, and will provide for precise, bidirectional bandwidth allocation and control by data type (ie, http, ftp, IP address, etc) and is specifically designed for high speed systems With a few rules there is no noticable overhead. It will allow ISPs and corporate administrators to control the traffic of individual workstations, networks or the entire intranet without adversly affecting the routers performance or other traffic. So you could, for example, limit ftp downloads to 512k on a T1, guarantee a specific bandwidth for outgoing http traffic or limit video traffic to 56k to guarantee bandwidth availability for other critical services. Dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. Router cards for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and Linux Standalone Routers Bandwidth Manager http://www.etinc.com sales@etinc.com (516) 271-4525 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 08:35:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA26738 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 08:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from avalon.imagixx.net (root@avalon.imagixx.net [206.31.232.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA26733 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 08:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.31.232.10] (mgb.imagixx.net [206.31.232.10]) by avalon.imagixx.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA16116; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:26:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:26:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199612261626.LAA16116@avalon.imagixx.net> Subject: Giving Public Service is Good Business From: "Martin G. Bayerle" To: "Free BSD" , "ISP CEO" , "ISP Marketing" , "Small Internet Access Providers" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To All ISPs, The Internet Development and Exchange Association is cooperating with the Ad Council to promote public service organizations on the Internet. The Ad Council supports dozens of organizations and projects; many of these are child advocacy campaigns. While the Council has websites for most of the projects it supports, they report that they have had difficulty getting the sites noticed by Internet users. In the spirit of the Holiday season, IDEA has agreed to recruit volunteers from our member network to distribute public service message banners hotlinked to these websites. What You Can Do to Help ... IDEA is asking ISPs to place the banner ads in prominent positions on the webpages which they typically assign as default homepages. This helps ensure that Internet users will see one public service message each time they logon the Internet (provided they retained their assigned default homepage). Instructions for participating in this program and placing the banners are on your website an be found at: http://www.auidea.org/Members/geninfo.html#advertise username: member password: idea96 You need not be an IDEA Member to participate. Who Pays? Who Profits? Who Benefits? Neither the Ad Council nor their supported organizations are expected to pay anything for this public service. ISPs do not pay any fees to participate. Your only cost is the time it takes to create the link on your webpage. So nobody pays and nobody profits, yet everybody benefits. These valuable public service organizations increase their exposure, and, together, we create a good public relations campaign for participating ISPs and for the industry as a whole. What Are IDEA's Goals For This Project? IDEA hopes to recruit at least 200 ISPs for this project within the next week so we can develop a Holiday Season human interest story for the national press. Participating ISPs will receive a press release so they can involve their local media as well. Will This Project Fulfill My Public Service Obligation Under the IDEA Code of Ethics? Yes. IDEA members have an obligation under the Association's Code of Ethics to use their distinctive capabilities to provide public service. IDEA believes in the value of public service, and ISPs have unique capabilities that allow them to serve the public interest in ways that other entities cannot. ISPs who use their capabilities to benefit their communities reap what they sow: good will from their communities, customers, nation, and neighbors. Do I Receive Any Tangible Benefits From This Project? Well, that's not exactly in the Spirit of the Season, but yes and no. ISPs will benefit when they demonstrate that a network of local ISPs can provide more exposure for national campaigns than even popular search engines such as Yahoo! or Webcrawler. The tangible fruits of our labor will follow ... Happy Holidays Martin +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ |_ _| _ \ __| \ Martin G. Bayerle, Executive Director | | | | | _| _ \ Internet Development & Exchange Association | |___|___/ ___|_/ _\ 5006 Grand Central Station Drive | | bayerle@auidea.org Morgantown, WV 26505 304 292-6736 | |PGP Fngrprnt = 8A 71 8B 59 1D DD 8D DB B5 AE 52 40 3B 20 28 87| +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 11:13:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA03936 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from Zero-Cool.Hades.Org (nobody@d1a23.uk.pi.net [194.73.76.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA03930 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:13:23 -0800 (PST) From: pumpkin@uk.pi.net Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by Zero-Cool.Hades.Org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA02672 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:01:10 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:01:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Sender: scot@Zero-Cool.Hades.Org To: FreeBSD ISP list Subject: Manual formatting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently noticed that the man command on my 2.1.5-RELEASE system was not saving formatted copies of man pages into their respective cat[n] directories unless I requested the man page whilst I was in root. Weather of not it this behaviour used to be standard I'm not sure, but it appears that the man binary should be owned and suid to the 'man' user which it is not on my system. However, I prefer set-gid binaries to suid ones, so the following is my suggested scheme: chown bin.man /usr/share/man/cat* /usr/local/man/cat* chmod ug=rwx,o=rx /usr/share/man/cat* /usr/local/man/cat* chown bin.man `which man` chmod u=rwx,g=rxs,o=rx `which man` For all I know this used to be the scheme that was used and some sort of security hole was discovered... if anyone knows anything then I'd appreciate your letting me know. Also there doesn't seem to be a system script which removes cat-pages that haven't been viewed for a while... here's mine: --------- Cut here -------------------- !#/bin/sh # produce a list of cat directories in man dirs that are configuered in # /etc/manpath.conf MANDIRS=`manpath 2>/dev/null | awk -F: '{for (n=1;n<=NF;n++) print $n"/cat*"}'` # Remove the formatted man pages not accessed in 2 weeks... for nextdir in $MANDIRS; do if [ -d $nextdir ]; then find $nextdir -atime +14 -type f -prune -exec rm -f {} \; fi done -------- End ------------------------- Yours Scot. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Scot Elliott | Please note that any opinions | | MEng Computing IV. | expressed are mine, and not those | | Imperial College, London | of the department or college. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | e-mail: s.elliott@ic.ac.uk | IRC nick: PlumbrBoy | | pumpkin@uk.pi.net | "You are everything in my fridge" | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 12:42:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA06551 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 12:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from intraserve.com (0@NS1.INTRASERVE.COM [204.174.32.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA06546 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 12:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.174.32.130] by intraserve.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0vdMcc-00447kC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 12:41 PST Message-Id: To: dooby Subject: Re: access.conf in Apache Date: Thu, 26 Dec 96 12:44:21 -0500 From: X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1 CC: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- [ From: Doug Woodward * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] -- > From: dooby \ Internet: (dooby@camel.com) > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG \ Internet: (freebsd-isp@freebsd.org) > Can anyone point me to instructions how to restrict access to a > directory to just one user using access.conf in the Apache web server? See www.apache.org/docs (Run-Time Configuration Directives and Security Tips). But here is how to do it. Note, in all of the examples below, the use of upper and lower case. It is required. These examples probably require Apache 1.1.1 or higher. Setup your access.conf file as follows then "re-start your webserver". 1) Add the following: AllowOverride None Options None allow from all This blocks anyone from getting open access to any directory or sub- dir. on your Web-Site as well as any of your system wide settings. /Apache/Root/Dir is the root document directory of your webserver such as: /usr/local/httpd/htdocs This command can (should!) be placed inside the setup in the httpd.conf for any virtual web-sites you have. 2) Add the following for "each" sub-directory you wish to allow restricted access to: AllowOverride All Options None order allow,deny allow from .yourdomain.com deny from all This examples allows access by anyone who is from your domain (.yourdomain.com being your real domain name, of course). To restrict it to a single computer from a domain change the "allow from" to "yourcomputer.yourdomain.com" (without the quotes). This restricts it to just the computer who's host name matches the "computername". You can not restrict it by user e-mail id since nearly all web-browsers will not pass the email address to the web-server. This command also works inside a "virtual host command" in the httpd.conf file. 3) If you wish to restrict by person and not by computer/domain then you must add .htaccess and .htpasswds files to each directory you wish to allow restricted access to. To do this: A) Add the following to your access.conf (one for each sub-directory): AllowOverride All Options None B) Create a .htaccess file as follows and put it in each sub-directory AuthType Basic AuthName Enter Your Password AuthUserFile /apache/root/dir/sub-dir/.htpasswds AuthGroupFile /dev/null require valid-user AuthType - must be Basic unless you compiled with the "Digest Auth Type Module. AuthGroup - is not needed so it must be set to /dev/null AuthUserFile - is the location and name of the Apache password file. AuthName - is what you want you want to say to the people when they attempt to access the directory, Above The User Name And Password fields. C) Use the Apache htpasswd program to add each user's sign-on name and password. This program is included with the sourc ebut is not compiled automatically. Check your apache src/support directory for it. The syntax for this program is: htpasswd -c /passwd/dir/yourpasswordfile username (to create the file and add a user) htpasswd /passwrd/dir/yourpasswordfile username (to add a new user to the file or change the password of an existing user in the file). 4) The Options None command can be changed to what ever you want to allow in each directory such as: Options All Options ExecCGI, IncludesNOEXEC 5) The .htaccess file can be any name you wish by changing it in your srm.conf file. This is the default name. If you do change it I strongly recommend you keep the . in front of the file name as a security precaution. Web browsers can not issue the equivalent of ls -al so therefore should anyone get a listing of your directory(s) they still wont see (or access) this file. Be sure to set the file to to read only as well after creating it. Your password file, of course, should be in a totally restriced area of your system. Doug Woodward IntraServe Technologies Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 13:57:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA10991 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 13:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smyrno.sol.net (smyrno.sol.net [206.55.64.117]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA10985 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 13:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from solaria.sol.net (solaria.sol.net [206.55.65.75]) by smyrno.sol.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA03342; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:57:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost by solaria.sol.net (8.5/8.5) id PAA07660; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:57:12 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199612262157.PAA07660@solaria.sol.net> Subject: Re: PPPgetty for Terminal Server. To: luiz@nlink.com.br (Luiz de Barros) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 96 15:57:11 CST Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Luiz de Barros" at Dec 23, 96 08:49:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL65] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Dear Netters, > > We use a FreeBSD2.1.5-RELEASE as a terminal server for our dial-in users > and would like to make automatic the PPP login with Windows95, without > having to install a scripter. > Where can i found pppgetty? In FreeBSD-current. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 14:54:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA14583 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from inetsrv.wtrt.net (inetsrv.wtrt.net [205.231.181.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA14571 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from allenh.wtrt.net (local2.wtrt.net [205.231.181.228]) by inetsrv.wtrt.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA02772 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:55:39 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961226165500.00689984@wtrt.net> X-Sender: allenh@wtrt.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 3 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:55:01 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Allen Hyer Subject: Multi port serial cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a box running -current (as of 12/20). I configured all the kernel ppp stuff and it works great. Now, I would like to hook about 50 modems to this machine. 1. Is this feasible? If so, how much processor/RAM should I expect to need? 2. Can someone recommend a good multi-port card? I have looked at the Cyclades Cyclom 32Yep. The card looks promising. Is it supported by FreeBSD? Are there better cards available? Thanks, Allen Hyer System Administrator West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 16:21:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA20626 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:21:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from intrastar.net (root@intrastar.net [206.136.25.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA20618 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from fixed.intrastar.net (jakes@fixed.intrastar.net [206.136.25.69]) by intrastar.net (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA23141; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:26:04 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199612270026.SAA23141@intrastar.net> From: "Jacob Suter" To: , "Allen Hyer" Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:19:47 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a box running -current (as of 12/20). I configured all the kernel > ppp stuff and it works great. Now, I would like to hook about 50 modems to > this machine. > > 1. Is this feasible? If so, how much processor/RAM should I expect to > need? > > 2. Can someone recommend a good multi-port card? I have looked at the > Cyclades Cyclom 32Yep. The card looks promising. Is it supported by > FreeBSD? Are there better cards available? ugh... 50 modems on a unix box? Ugh!!! Buy a portmaster, its a whole lot better for that job. JS From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 16:32:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA21123 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunasci.informador.com.mx (sunasci.infored.com.mx [200.13.66.88]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA21116 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from felipe@localhost) by sunasci.informador.com.mx (8.8.3/8.8.3) id SAA00224; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:34:25 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:34:24 +0000 () From: Felipe Rivera Marquez To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI bus reset Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there. Configuration: Freebsd 2.1.5, ultrastor ultra 14f irq 11 dma 5 id 7 (uha0), HD scsi seagate st51080n 1gb id 0 (sd0), DAT unit HP surestoretape 6000 id 1 (st0), root mounted on an ide hd Connner 540MB, pentium 100mhz, 32mb ram, 128mb swap partition. All the scsi devices are detected without a problem. When a try to archive any filesystem on the tape with tar i get this error after 10 seconds more or less. uha0: unexpected ha_status 0x96 (target status 0x0) st0(uha0:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 st0(uha0:1:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred sd0(uha0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 sd0(uha0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred , retries:4 and tar stops. Any ideas??? BTW does anybody have the jumper description for the ultrastor ultra 14f?? thanx From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 17:22:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA22529 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA22524 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:22:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA04333; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:14:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32C322D4.167EB0E7@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:13:56 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Felipe Rivera Marquez CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI bus reset References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Felipe Rivera Marquez wrote: > > Hi there. > > Configuration: > All the scsi devices are detected without a problem. When a try > to archive any filesystem on the tape with tar i get this error after 10 > seconds more or less. > > uha0: unexpected ha_status 0x96 (target status 0x0) > st0(uha0:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 > st0(uha0:1:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred > sd0(uha0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 > sd0(uha0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred > , retries:4 > > and tar stops. > > Any ideas??? you have either a bad power supply, or a bad power connector to the tape drive.. (or a half dead tape drive) extra power drain caused a voltage drop which reset the drive. this is the error message a new drive makes when it starts up. If we're still booting we (obviously) ignore it.. it is not ignored at other times :) From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 17:50:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA23915 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from esimene.cynet.net.au (root@esimene.cynet.net.au [203.24.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA23894 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:50:09 -0800 (PST) From: mikel@cynet.net.au Received: from lizard (mikel@ppp33.sa.iinet.net.au [203.2.134.51]) by esimene.cynet.net.au (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA07179 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:54:13 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <32C43685.5696@cynet.net.au> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:50:34 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards References: <199612270026.SAA23141@intrastar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jacob Suter wrote: > > > Now, I would like to hook about 50 modems > > ugh... 50 modems on a unix box? Ugh!!! > > Buy a portmaster, its a whole lot better for that job. > Yes the portmasters are perfect for this job. The pros: (1) Easy to set up (REAL EASY) (2) Reliable (no HDDs etc) (3) Redundant (you have to buy at least two pm25's to get 50 modems) (4) Compatible (PAP, CHAP, Passthrough, Standard logins, rlogins, RADIUS) The cons: (1) You don't "have unix power to the serial port) ie, if the portmaster doesn't have something you want, you can't create it. (2) More Expensive (In Australia anyway, compared to stallions) (3) Just as awkward (maybe slightly neater. not much though) It is a tough decision. If you are really comfortable with unix, go with a good stallion board with multiple 16 port modules. If you are not so comfortable with unix serial communications, a PM2ER-30 with a PM25 would do you well. Good luck Mikel. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 17:52:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA24053 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA24048 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA29250; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:52:48 -0800 (PST) To: "Jacob Suter" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, "Allen Hyer" Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:19:47 CST." <199612270026.SAA23141@intrastar.net> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:52:47 -0800 Message-ID: <29247.851651567@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ugh... 50 modems on a unix box? Ugh!!! Actually, it seems a lot of folks are starting to have success with configurations like this, and they don't need to run radiusd and multiply their accounting headaches as a result. Admittedly, a portmaster is more plug-n-play (to an extent anyway) just as a Cisco is more p-n-p as a router, but sometimes cost is a consideration. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 18:23:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA25049 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:23:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from i-gw.dalsys.com (i-gw.dalsys.com [207.42.153.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA25044 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by i-gw.dalsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA10512; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:23:13 -0600 Received: from future.dsc.dalsys.com(199.170.161.3) by i-gw.dalsys.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010510; Thu Dec 26 20:23:10 1996 Received: by future.dsc.dalsys.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/8.6.12) id AA65212; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:29:16 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:29:16 +0000 (CUT) From: Richard Stanford X-Sender: richards@future.dsc.dalsys.com To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Jacob Suter , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Allen Hyer Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards In-Reply-To: <29247.851651567@time.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > ugh... 50 modems on a unix box? Ugh!!! > Actually, it seems a lot of folks are starting to have success with > configurations like this, and they don't need to run radiusd and > multiply their accounting headaches as a result. Well, less accounting headaches at first. Once you grow beyond the capacity of one UNIX box to support (or just want a little redundancy) using Radius greatly decreases your accounting headaches. > Admittedly, a portmaster is more plug-n-play (to an extent anyway) > just as a Cisco is more p-n-p as a router, but sometimes cost is > a consideration. :-) Cost -- considering that fully loaded PM3s from Livingston work out to be around $330 a port, leasing for $13 per port, per month, from Livingston, I don't think that cost is as much of a consideration. Price is for full digital modems supporting 64k ISDN and analog connections up to 56k (if and when). Admittedly, you can go UNIX, Serial ports, and, say, Sportsters for less, but when you add in the price of a decent modem (say Courier) you will be spending close to the same price. The Livingston chassis is also NEBS compliant, supports auto-configuring hot-swappable modem cards, et cetera. Is it for everyone? No, of course not. That's why there are several options out there. It's at least worth taking a look at, though. Now if there was only a stable, tested Radius enabled telnetd out there ... anyone have one of these they wouldn't mind sharing? -Richard From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 18:36:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA25580 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from intrastar.net (root@intrastar.net [206.136.25.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA25550 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from fixed.intrastar.net (jakes@fixed.intrastar.net [206.136.25.69]) by intrastar.net (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23732; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:40:17 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199612270240.UAA23732@intrastar.net> From: "Jacob Suter" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: , "Allen Hyer" Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:33:55 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > ugh... 50 modems on a unix box? Ugh!!! > > Actually, it seems a lot of folks are starting to have success with > configurations like this, and they don't need to run radiusd and > multiply their accounting headaches as a result. Hmm... I modified the perl scripts I have found for radius to print out just like 'ac'... I do run 7 lines off a Cyclades card on my 2.1.5 server, and yeah it works, but damn its a hassle. > Admittedly, a portmaster is more plug-n-play (to an extent anyway) > just as a Cisco is more p-n-p as a router, but sometimes cost is > a consideration. :-) True. I like both ways, and I have found the pppgetty setup is great and is possibly a tad faster than my PM2-ER-10 (off a 5x86/160), but when something breaks on a unix box you have problems (say sendmail goes nuts and eats the machine... sendmail, pppd, and anything else running is dead to the world). When you throw together the total cost of a machine to do this job (AMD 5x86/133, 24 megs ram, 540 MB hard drive, Cyclades 32-Yep, case, video card, network card, etc) to handle 30 ports, it just doesn't come out cheaper, when you can buy PM-11's (57.6k, 10 ports) pretty cheap from guys on the Portmaster-user's list... But, If I was just now getting into the business, I wouldn't fool with the analog modems anymore, get a PM-3, either lease or buy... They're cheap, they support both ISDN and analog (if you use a PRI), and quite often the line charges are cheaper.. TTYL JS From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 18:38:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA25739 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA25733 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA29470; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:38:45 -0800 (PST) To: "Jacob Suter" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, "Allen Hyer" Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:33:55 CST." <199612270240.UAA23732@intrastar.net> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:38:45 -0800 Message-ID: <29467.851654325@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > But, If I was just now getting into the business, I wouldn't fool with the > analog modems anymore, get a PM-3, either lease or buy... They're cheap, You're probably correct there. Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 20:19:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA00262 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from m4.sprynet.com (m4.sprynet.com [165.121.2.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA00253 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:19:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from free.max5.com (dd66-159.compuserve.com [199.174.207.159]) by m4.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA19637 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:17:48 -0800 Received: by free.max5.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBF384.71838D20@free.max5.com>; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <01BBF384.71838D20@free.max5.com> From: David Botton To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:28:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 26 23:31:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA08445 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from inetsrv.wtrt.net (inetsrv.wtrt.net [205.231.181.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA08440 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from allenhome (ppp54.wtrt.net [205.231.181.124]) by inetsrv.wtrt.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA06470; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 01:32:07 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961220012852.00686100@wtrt.net> X-Sender: allenh@wtrt.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 01:28:53 -0600 To: "Jacob Suter" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Allen Hyer Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 08:33 PM 12/26/96 -0600, Jacob Suter wrote: >> > ugh... 50 modems on a unix box? Ugh!!! >> >> Actually, it seems a lot of folks are starting to have success with >> configurations like this, and they don't need to run radiusd and >> multiply their accounting headaches as a result. > >Hmm... I modified the perl scripts I have found for radius to print out >just like 'ac'... I do run 7 lines off a Cyclades card on my 2.1.5 server, >and yeah it works, but damn its a hassle. > >> Admittedly, a portmaster is more plug-n-play (to an extent anyway) >> just as a Cisco is more p-n-p as a router, but sometimes cost is >> a consideration. :-) > >True. I like both ways, and I have found the pppgetty setup is great and >is possibly a tad faster than my PM2-ER-10 (off a 5x86/160), but when >something breaks on a unix box you have problems (say sendmail goes nuts >and eats the machine... sendmail, pppd, and anything else running is dead >to the world). When you throw together the total cost of a machine to do >this job (AMD 5x86/133, 24 megs ram, 540 MB hard drive, Cyclades 32-Yep, >case, video card, network card, etc) to handle 30 ports, it just doesn't >come out cheaper, when you can buy PM-11's (57.6k, 10 ports) pretty cheap >from guys on the Portmaster-user's list... > >But, If I was just now getting into the business, I wouldn't fool with the >analog modems anymore, get a PM-3, either lease or buy... They're cheap, >they support both ISDN and analog (if you use a PRI), and quite often the >line charges are cheaper.. I have taken all the points presented so far. Here is my situation, and if there is a better way, I would definately be interested. 1. I already have the 54 analog modems. Yes, digital modems are in my future, but this is now. 2. I like the level of control that a unix box presents. I don't mind hacking on the pc hardware, and as far as failures, I have spare pc pieces sitting around (ie hard drives, power supplies, ethercards, etc) to handle these. Also, I don't mind firing up the c compiler to hack a little code either. A unix box gives me that capability. Honestly, I am kind of tired of propriety hardware/software solutions. I don't mind a little more setup time and even a little extra cost to gain this flexibility. And, this machine will be a dedicated terminal server, so I don't really have to worry about sendmail, named, etc going out of control and crashing the system. In the little experience I have, I have found my FreeBSD boxes to be as stable as a cisco router or the xylogics terminal server that I presently use. All hardware/software solutions fail, regardless if they are proprietary or not. Also, A unix box can be more scalable then some proprietary hardware. 3. I can use a comm package to get to the modems to adjust software settings on the modems, reset them, etc. My office is 12 miles away from the building the equipment is in, so this becomes fairly important. And, I can do all those things from home, which is nice when something craters at 2 o'clock in the morning and the pager and the cell phone start going nuts with trouble reports. Admittedly, I am not familiar with all the hardware mentioned in the previous posts. So, if there is a better way I am open to it. I am not trying to start a flame war, just looking for some help. I am not looking for the "cheapest" solution. In reality, I am looking for the most "robust" solution. Cost is always a factor, but not always the biggest factor. Thanks for your help, Allen Hyer System Administrator West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 27 02:17:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA13371 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id CAA13364 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:17:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA00675; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:18:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:18:53 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: jmg@hydrogen Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Jacob Suter cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Allen Hyer Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards In-Reply-To: <199612270240.UAA23732@intrastar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Jacob Suter wrote: [...] > something breaks on a unix box you have problems (say sendmail goes nuts > and eats the machine... sendmail, pppd, and anything else running is dead what?? running sendmail on a termserver?? > to the world). When you throw together the total cost of a machine to do > this job (AMD 5x86/133, 24 megs ram, 540 MB hard drive, Cyclades 32-Yep, > case, video card, network card, etc) to handle 30 ports, it just doesn't and just what do you need a video card and a hard drive for?? (ok I can understand a 40meg ide... but a 540???) right now I'm running a termserver that is netbooted and the whole system takes up a whole 7megs... which I plan on reducing soon by recompiling the binaries as one and static... [...] > But, If I was just now getting into the business, I wouldn't fool with the > analog modems anymore, get a PM-3, either lease or buy... They're cheap, > they support both ISDN and analog (if you use a PRI), and quite often the > line charges are cheaper.. hmm... sounds good... I'll have to check that out... ttyl... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 27 21:42:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA28798 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (slipper19a.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA28793 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA03464 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:43:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:43:04 -0500 (EST) From: jack X-Sender: jack@localhost To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multi port serial cards In-Reply-To: <29247.851651567@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > ugh... 50 modems on a unix box? Ugh!!! > > Actually, it seems a lot of folks are starting to have success with > configurations like this, and they don't need to run radiusd and > multiply their accounting headaches as a result. Is there any support for the DigiBoard PC/Xem series? The only ones listed in LINT is the Xe cards, and the FAQ on the web site points to an empty incoming directory. We've got one box with 60 modems on it and another that will soon go from 20 to 32 that we'd love to convert to FreeBSD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Finger jacko@diamond.xtalwind.net or jack@xtalwind.net http://www.xtalwind.net/~jacko/pubpgp.html #include for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 28 00:05:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA02466 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:05:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from agni.nuko.com ([207.82.229.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA02461 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:05:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vinay@localhost) by agni.nuko.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA19383 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:04:58 -0800 (PST) From: Vinay Kumar Message-Id: <199612280804.AAA19383@agni.nuko.com> Subject: Information about public ATM networks To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:04:58 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I have been following the mailing list for more than a month. I found very knowledgeable people on the mailing list. I was wondering if any you had any experiences with public WAN ATM networks. Let me explain ... A company needs to connect several of its sites located in different cities through a ATM network. Part of the ATM network (some VPI/VCI) is used to connect to the Internet and the rest of the bandwidth is for private use. This would primarily be used for multimedia, video stuff... Is it possible for a company (corporation) to get ATM connection from the telephone companies? If so, what kind of support do they have? Do they support SVC? Do they support ATM multicasting? What is the level of support provided by the telephone companies? How do I get this information? ( I tried contacting PacBell but met with limited success in getting them to answer the questions) Thanks for any responses Vinay Bannai vinay@cs.stanford.edu From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 28 09:48:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA18819 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 09:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from industry.idirect.com (root@industry.idirect.com [205.206.21.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA18814 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 09:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from industry.idirect.com (jlixfeld@industry.idirect.com [205.206.21.8]) by industry.idirect.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA29640; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:02:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:02:45 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Lixfeld To: Vinay Kumar cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Information about public ATM networks In-Reply-To: <199612280804.AAA19383@agni.nuko.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As far as I know, you would have to go directly to Sprintlink, MCI, Rogers, or Whatever for your ATM. The phone companies (most of them) are limited to regular phone lines, and digital lines (ISDN) ATM is Fiber Optics, and generally only the big guys provide them. Regards, Jason A. Lixfeld -=- IDBS Administration System Administrator Client Services Representative Systems Liason -=- Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. 5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 CANADA [416] 233.7150 {V} [416] 233.6970 {F} -=- carrera@idirect.com On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Vinay Kumar wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have been following the mailing list for more than a month. I found very > knowledgeable people on the mailing list. I was wondering if any you had > any experiences with public WAN ATM networks. Let me explain ... > > A company needs to connect several of its sites located in different > cities through a ATM network. Part of the ATM network (some VPI/VCI) is > used to connect to the Internet and the rest of the bandwidth is for > private use. This would primarily be used for multimedia, video stuff... > > Is it possible for a company (corporation) to get ATM connection from the > telephone companies? If so, what kind of support do they have? > Do they support SVC? > Do they support ATM multicasting? > What is the level of support provided by the telephone companies? > How do I get this information? ( I tried contacting PacBell but met with > limited success in getting them to answer the questions) > > Thanks for any responses > > Vinay Bannai > vinay@cs.stanford.edu > From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 28 10:24:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA20172 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA20167 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:24:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from PacBell.TelcoSucks.org (msn-33.hl-1.msn.eunet.de [194.175.90.33]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA18786; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:30:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961228102157.006c2b1c@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> X-Sender: ulf@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:25:33 -0800 To: Jason Lixfeld , Vinay Kumar From: Ulf Zimmermann Subject: Re: Information about public ATM networks Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pacific Bell is offering ATM too, at least in the San Francisco Bay Area and Los Angeles. Ulf. At 01:02 PM 12/28/96 -0500, Jason Lixfeld wrote: >As far as I know, you would have to go directly to Sprintlink, MCI, >Rogers, or Whatever for your ATM. The phone companies (most of them) are >limited to regular phone lines, and digital lines (ISDN) ATM is Fiber >Optics, and generally only the big guys provide them. > > >Regards, > >Jason A. Lixfeld >-=- >IDBS Administration >System Administrator >Client Services Representative >Systems Liason >-=- >Internet Direct o/a ComputerLink Online Inc. >5415 Dundas Street West Suite 301 >Etobicoke, ON M9B 1B5 >CANADA >[416] 233.7150 {V} >[416] 233.6970 {F} >-=- >carrera@idirect.com > > >On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Vinay Kumar wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I have been following the mailing list for more than a month. I found very >> knowledgeable people on the mailing list. I was wondering if any you had >> any experiences with public WAN ATM networks. Let me explain ... >> >> A company needs to connect several of its sites located in different >> cities through a ATM network. Part of the ATM network (some VPI/VCI) is >> used to connect to the Internet and the rest of the bandwidth is for >> private use. This would primarily be used for multimedia, video stuff... >> >> Is it possible for a company (corporation) to get ATM connection from the >> telephone companies? If so, what kind of support do they have? >> Do they support SVC? >> Do they support ATM multicasting? >> What is the level of support provided by the telephone companies? >> How do I get this information? ( I tried contacting PacBell but met with >> limited success in getting them to answer the questions) >> >> Thanks for any responses >> >> Vinay Bannai >> vinay@cs.stanford.edu >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 28 14:23:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA27166 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from boris.clintondale.com (boris.clintondale.com [206.88.120.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA27161 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by boris.clintondale.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16402 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:23:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:23:11 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Hamilton To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: POP3 RADIUS and long usernames Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear All, I have been watching the discussion on several of the lists about having >8 char usernames. We run a mail server that we would like to try and implement long usernames on. Since this server is only connected to via POP3 and sendmail for the user I was wondering if there was a way to circumvent the normal UNIX passwd file and authenicate POP3 and sendmail requests another way. I know that sendmail can use a database file for usenames, but I don't think any POP3 servers can. Does anybody know of any that do? My idea was to try and modify sendmail and ipop3d so that they would authenticate via RADIUS. This would allow longer usernames and would allow central administration along with our terminal server. Does anybody know if this would be any easy task (I am not too proficient in C) or if something similar has already been done? -Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Hamilton Clintondale Aviation matt@clintondale.com http://www.clintondale.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 28 15:34:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA01318 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA01293 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA08546; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:34:02 -0800 (PST) To: Matt Hamilton Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POP3 RADIUS and long usernames In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:23:11 EST." Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:34:02 -0800 Message-ID: <8541.851816042@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have been watching the discussion on several of the lists about having > >8 char usernames. We run a mail server that we would like to try and > implement long usernames on. 16 character usernames are already part of -current, if running that would not be too much of a hardship. Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 28 15:36:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA01524 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from news.interworld.net (news.interworld.net [206.124.224.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA01518 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:36:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by news.interworld.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA25106; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:36:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:36:14 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Carah Message-Id: <199612282336.PAA25106@news.interworld.net> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bandwidth.. In-Reply-To: Organization: InterWorld Communications Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you write: >Three separate questions here: >Q1: how many virtual IPs can you put on a FreeBSD box? >A1: More than 5,000 (that is as high as anyone has bothered to test.) Wow. I'd heard of 400-500... Our max is about 50 so far. >Q2: What load can a P133/64MB cope with? >A2: Well, other significant factors are disk type/speed and CPU L2 cache > size. However, a 486-66 can sustain a load of about 5 conn/sec, so > you are really looking at > 10 conn/sec, 600 conn/min, 36,000 conn/hour. >Q3: What load can a 128kbps ISDN ? >A3: 128kbps == 16kBytes/sec. Since the average Web document is about > 15kBytes, you should be able to sustain a load of 1 conn/sec. Our files are mostly shorter so you get a few more hits. >Note that the capabilities of the P133 are *much* greater than the 128k link. Amen... You really only need the pentium if you're running news or if there are some database cgi's. That's even true on T1's, though it is getting closer. I don't know how the kernel ip lookup is for virt hosts; if you get too many there may be a time sink in the packet interrupt handler. On the other hand, pentia are cheap enough and it never hurts to have too much power... >Most of my customers' virtual servers get between 5,000 and 30,000 >connections per month: less than 100 per hour. One server I deal with is a P120 with 32mb; it has 1.2mil hits in december so far, with only 3 virt hosts out of 47 over 100k (and only 4 more over 10k; most sites are very little visited) The biggest comes to 15k/day or about 1 every 4 or 5 seconds. 1.2e6/(30*86400) = about 1 every 2 seconds overall. Of course, this load is really *very* bursty so the average means nothing; the big site is sending very little text and lots of small pictures (no, it isn't an "adult" site; it's mostly in a language with a non-roman alphabet so everything has to be sent as graphics). This machine runs anon ftp too with about 1.5-3k hits/day of 1/2 meg average. Right now, top shows 100% idle with 17m memory active... -- Pete From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 28 19:59:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA12026 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA12021 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA05279; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:59:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:53:50 -0500 () From: Bradley Dunn To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POP3 RADIUS and long usernames In-Reply-To: <8541.851816042@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: bradley@harborcom.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey, just thought I would let everyone know that we had no problems upping the limit to 16. All we did was: Make UT_NAMESIZE in 16. Make MAXLOGNAME in 16. Add eight more spaces between the "USER" and "TTY" fields at line 228 of src/usr.bin/w/w.c (Just for cosmetics). Also, if you use the adduser script, up the check for length. Nothing has broken (yet). -BD On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I have been watching the discussion on several of the lists about having > > >8 char usernames. We run a mail server that we would like to try and > > implement long usernames on. > > 16 character usernames are already part of -current, if running > that would not be too much of a hardship. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 28 23:54:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA18498 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdev.usn.blaze.net.au (sdev.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA18493 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from davidn@localhost) by sdev.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) id SAA04035; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:54:24 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:54:23 +1100 From: davidn@sdev.usn.blaze.net.au (David Nugent) To: bradley@dunn.org (Bradley Dunn) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POP3 RADIUS and long usernames References: <8541.851816042@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: ; from Bradley Dunn on Dec 28, 1996 22:53:50 -0500 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bradley Dunn writes: > Hey, just thought I would let everyone know that we had no problems upping > the limit to 16. All we did was: > > Make UT_NAMESIZE in 16. > Make MAXLOGNAME in 16. > Add eight more spaces between the "USER" and "TTY" fields at line 228 of > src/usr.bin/w/w.c (Just for cosmetics). > Also, if you use the adduser script, up the check for length. > > Nothing has broken (yet). One additional place I found recently was the username check in libskey, which currently truncates usernames to 8 characters (/usr/src/lib/libskey/skeylogin.c). This is still 8 in -current as of today but the author and maintainer are aware of it, so I expect a patch of some sort will filter through shortly. Regards, David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia Voice +61-3-9791-9547 Data/BBS +61-3-9792-3507 3:632/348@fidonet davidn@freefall.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/