From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 02:21:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA16263 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 02:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA16238 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 02:21:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id LAA27354; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:21:26 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id LAA21234; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:21:25 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id LAA02232; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:07:41 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601011007.LAA02232@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD, Zappa & PCI To: ez@eztravel.com (EZ Travel) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:07:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, ez@eztravel.com Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199512312014.MAA00282@eztravel.com> from "EZ Travel" at Dec 31, 95 12:14:36 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As EZ Travel wrote: > > Dec 31 10:59:29 eztravel /kernel: pci0:7: INTEL CORPORATION, device=0x122e, class=bridge [not supported] > Is this a serious problem? What does the class=bridge[not supported] > mean? You are running an old version of FreeBSD. :) The confusing `not supported' message has been changed meanwhile into `no driver assigned'. This is not a problem, since the BIOS usually has initialized the device, it's only telling that FreeBSD doesn't provide any handling of its own for it. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 06:44:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA22684 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 06:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA22664 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 06:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA20337; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:43:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00517; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:18:43 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601011418.PAA00517@mordillo> Subject: Re: gcc and libg version in 2.1? To: spaz@u.washington.edu (John Utz) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:18:43 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "John Utz" at Dec 31, 95 05:45:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't John Utz said ? ... > > Hi gang > > i am still running 2.0.5. I am considering moving up to 2.1. What version > of gcc and libg++ are bundled with 2.1? > gcc 2.6.3 and libg++ 2.6.x t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 08:08:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA25341 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 08:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA25336 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 08:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA10803; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:06:59 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199601011606.KAA10803@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: mbarkah@hemi.com (Ade Barkah) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:06:58 -0600 (CST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199512310246.TAA13020@hemi.com> from "Ade Barkah" at Dec 30, 95 07:46:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 3. Copy the new pwd.db file into ~ftp/etc, and make it only > readable to everyone (chmod a=r pwd.db.) You should have > two files in ~ftp/etc directory: pwd.db, and group. The > passwd file is not necessary. Here's an example of how > the ~ftp/etc directory might look: > > -r--r--r-- 1 root ftp 15 Dec 18 10:38 group > -r--r--r-- 1 root ftp 40960 Dec 18 19:14 pwd.db > > 4. Make sure you copy /bin/ls into ~ftp/bin, and make it only > executable by everyone (chmod a=x ls). The more paranoid among us will be even more cautious: you don't want people gaining a comprehensive listing of users on your system as easily as downloading the pwd.db file. I do something similar but with a twist: 3. Copy the new pwd.db and group files into ~ftp/etc, and make them both mode 0440. Change owner to "root.daemon". 4. Copy /bin/ls into ~ftp/bin. Change owner to "root.daemon", and change the mode to 2111... Now nobody can access your pwd.db or group files, but ls can, because it is a member of the appropriate group... I know this may seem overly paranoid to people, but you never know what tricks someone might use to gain access to your system, and the lower your profile, the safer you may be... ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 09:08:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA27626 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.tversu.ac.ru (server.tversu.ac.ru [193.233.128.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27617 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ranger@localhost) by server.tversu.ac.ru (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA13880 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:12:18 +0300 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:12:18 +0300 From: Sergey Kachanovsky Message-Id: <199601011712.UAA13880@server.tversu.ac.ru> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD on 4Mb of RAM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there! I want to install FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE or 2.0.5-RELEASE at home, but I have only 4Mb of RAM on my 386dx/40MHz, and I'd like to know, if FreeBSD will run on such machine with only 4Mb of RAM. Please tell me, what's the lowest limit of memory on PC for running FreeBSD. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Sergey Kachanovsky. PS. Happy New Year, guys! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 09:59:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA29297 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.netcom.com (freebsd.netcom.com [198.211.79.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29292 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by freebsd.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id MAA04230; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:04:15 -0600 From: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Message-Id: <199601011804.MAA04230@freebsd.netcom.com> Subject: re: FreeBSD on 4mb of ram To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:04:09 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I want to install FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE or 2.0.5-RELEASE at home, but I have > only 4Mb of RAM on my 386dx/40MHz, and I'd like to know, if FreeBSD will > run on such machine with only 4Mb of RAM. Please tell me, what's the lowest > limit of memory on PC for running FreeBSD. Install support for 4mb comes and goes :-) I used a larger pc at work to build a custom kernel for my 4mb machine at home. If you prune the stuff you don't need there is enough room for about 2.7mb of useable memory on a 4mb machine. Regards, Mark Hittinger Netcom/Dallas bugs@freebsd.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 10:08:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA00217 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00208 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:08:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA22246; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:12:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199601011812.NAA22246@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( To: scouch@io.org (Stephen Couchman) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:12:31 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512311930.OAA04321@io.org> from "Stephen Couchman" at Dec 31, 95 02:30:49 pm From: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, My sympathy for your trouble, I've been watching this thread for a couple of days now without having anthing to contribute. I hope you aren't getting too frayed by this problem. Stephen Couchman wrote... > > At 01:46 PM 12/31/95 -0500, you wrote: > > [... stuff deleted ...] > > what are the messages when iijppp starts up? > myhost # ppp myisp > User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. > Log level is 0b > Using interface: tun0 > Interactive mode > ppp on myhost> pass myhostpassword > ppp ON myhost> show modem > device: /dev/cuaa1 speed: 1200 [..rest deleted..] ^^^^ Can this be right? Could this be that your modem is not dealing with a 1200 baud signal from your serial port? Try changing the 'set speed' line in your ppp.conf. Sounds trivial - but it's probably a really tiny problem. [... rest deleted ...] > > -- Stephen > > ______________________________ > Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org > Good luck! John -- Difficult conversations with great figures of history: 4. Ludwig van Beethoven "Hello... Excuse me... HELLO!" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 10:21:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA00635 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00607 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id TAA04893; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:21:38 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id TAA24520; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:21:38 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id SAA05624; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:54:03 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601011754.SAA05624@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:54:02 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199601011606.KAA10803@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Jan 1, 96 10:06:58 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Joe Greco wrote: > > The more paranoid among us will be even more cautious: you don't want > people gaining a comprehensive listing of users on your system as easily as > downloading the pwd.db file. I do something similar but with a twist: You could as well install a list of dummy users. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 11:23:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA03661 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03656 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA12624; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:18:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:18:17 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601011918.AA12624@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: buaas@wireless.wdc.net (Robert A. Buaas) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: TCP connection prob in 2.1.0-REL In-Reply-To: <199512301250.MAA28941@wireless.wdc.net> References: <199512301250.MAA28941@wireless.wdc.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < queries work fine from everywhere. Telnets/FTPs/POP3s/etc work fine > EXCEPT from wireless.wdc.net (204.140.136.28) and n1.wdc.net > (204.140.136.18). Go into /etc/sysconfig and turn off `tcp_extensions'. If this fixes it, you have a broken gateway or terminal server which can't deal with TCP options correctly. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 11:47:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA04849 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [205.162.141.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04839 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:47:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.nightflight (laptop [205.162.141.3]) by nightflight.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA17647 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:51:22 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:51:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199601011951.LAA17647@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Crutcher Subject: @.1 Installation on 2nd SCSI drive Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a Web site using FreeBSD 2.05. I have a 2nd SCSI drive I just installed. I need to keep my site up and running during the change over to v2.1. I plan on getting the 2.1 CD from Walnut Creek to do this. 1. Is it possible to install v2.1 on the 2nd SCSI drive? 2. If so, how would I go about doing this, and then make the switch over. Each drive has a 2.1 GB capacity. Thanks, Gary Crutcher Webmaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com 'Flights throughout the Internet' voice: 619-631-0666 ----------------------------------------------------------------------  From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 12:15:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07538 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07530 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA12054; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:15:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:15:18 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601012015.AA12054@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Barry Masterson Cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: ppp from shell, & starting X In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Dec 17 08:59:50 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf054e500) was (0xf04dee00) > Dec 18 11:22:24 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf051fe00) was (0xf04dee00) > Dec 28 21:12:12 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf04ebc80) was (0xf04dee00) > Dec 29 17:06:01 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf053f680) was (0xf04dee00) What this message indicates is that there is something wrong with the routing. Specifically: The message occurs when trying to add the route corresponding to a new interface address. One of the steps in adding the route is to use the interface address table to figure out which interface the route should be marked for use with. The message indicates that this calculation came up with a different answer than the interface that is supposed to be represented in the first place, so something is inconsistent in your configuration. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 12:16:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07648 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07643 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA12553; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:16:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:16:40 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601012016.AA12553@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Robert Nordier Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP glitches In-Reply-To: <199512292225.AAA00287@eac.iafrica.com> References: <199512292225.AAA00287@eac.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > [/etc/hosts] > 127.0.0.0 localhost 127.0.0.1 > 10.0.0.0 eac.iafrica.com eac 10.0.0.1 You can't have a `host-part' that is all-bits-zero; it's reserved for other uses. > [/etc/sysconfig] > ifconfig_tun0="inet eac.iafrica.com 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 12:42:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09225 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09218 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA18165 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:41:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199601012041.AA18165@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:41:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: Alex Kluev "Re: Adaptec 294x problem" (Dec 30, 15:41) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Alex Kluev Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 30, 15:41, Alex Kluev wrote: } Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem } OK, here comes two verbose boot logs. First one is GENERIC, second one is } a fixed kernel. Sorry, the AHA board was taken from me, but I will get it } back after the NewYear's celebrations. } } I hope this will help. Thanks! } pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x8000000c (0x80000000), mode2res=0x0c (0x0e) Yes, this is a know buggy chip set ... But they seem to have broken it even more by now! } pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x8000000c (0x80000000), mode2res=0x0c (0x0c) } pcibus_setup(2): mode1res=0x00000000 (0x80000000) } pcibus_setup(3): mode1res=0x80000000 (0xff000001) } pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=20000e11) } Probing for devices on the PCI bus: } configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. } pci0:0: Compaq, device=0x2000, class=old (misc) [no driver assigned] The fix I put in before was for the Compaq chip set with device ID 0x1000, and this one behaves different even again. But the code in FreeBSD-current does know how to deal with them ... Your proposed fix is in fact only working by accident. The 0x0e is for Configuration Mode 2 detecion, while the Compaq uses Mode 1. By changing the 0x0e into 0x0c, you make the Mode 2 test succeed, but later Mode 1 is (correctly) used to access the PCI configuration space anyway. You can of course use the kernel with your patch on the Compaq, but the better solution would be to use /sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c from FreeBSD-current, since that file contains a new and improved probe code ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 13:16:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA10759 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM ([198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10752 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA28615; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:16:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Gary Crutcher cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: @.1 Installation on 2nd SCSI drive In-Reply-To: <199601011951.LAA17647@nightflight.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Gary Crutcher wrote: > I have a Web site using FreeBSD 2.05. I have a 2nd SCSI drive I just installed. > I need to keep my site up and running during the change over to v2.1. I plan > on getting the 2.1 CD from Walnut Creek to do this. WAIT...there was/is a bug in the sysinstall that will/can remove the disklabel from the first scsi drive. either jordan or poul has the answer. just hang in there a little while longer ;) > 1. Is it possible to install v2.1 on the 2nd SCSI drive? > > 2. If so, how would I go about doing this, and then make the switch over. > Each drive has a 2.1 GB capacity. Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 14:17:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA12858 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (tick.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12853 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA19302 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:17:01 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Glowacki Message-Id: <199601012217.QAA19302@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CD interface Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 16:17:01 -0600 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to bring up xmcd on FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. By default, it tries to use /dev/rcd0c to communicate with the drive, but that results in a bunch of "SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl failed: Permission denied" messages (even when running as root). According to the cd(4) man page: In addition the general scsi(4) ioctls may be used with the cd driver, if used against the fourth (raw/whole disk) partiton. (e.g. rcd0d) but after creating /dev/rsd0d with "mknod rcd0d c 15 3" and reconfiguring xmcd, I get "Cannot open /dev/rcd0d: errno=6" Does anybody have this working with 2.1.0? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 14:23:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA13079 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13073 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id JAA20051 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:22:38 +1100 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:22:34 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Owen Newnan cc: questions about FreeBSD Subject: Re: HTML & ATAPI part 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 28 Dec 1995, Owen Newnan wrote: > So I need a work around installing packages by way of DOS. Needed is a > utility that takes a package subtree copied over from DOS and applies the > tables, restoring the long file names. Does such a thing exist? Otherwise, > I'll write one. I think you are going about this the hard way. The wcarchive ftp site supports tarring of subdirectories on the fly. (or at least it used to) You just append something like .tar.Z to the end of the subdir name when you do a get, and you should get the whole tree. Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 14:27:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA13206 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13200 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id OAA21947; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02267; Mon, 1 Jan 96 14:25:42 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601012225.AA02267@tera.com> Subject: Re: ppp from shell, & starting X To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett A. Wollman) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:25:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: jbarrm@panix.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601012015.AA12054@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett A. Wollman" at Jan 1, 96 03:15:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Garrett A. Wollman: > > < said: > > > Dec 17 08:59:50 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf054e500) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 18 11:22:24 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf051fe00) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 28 21:12:12 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf04ebc80) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 29 17:06:01 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf053f680) was (0xf04dee00) > > What this message indicates is that there is something wrong with the > routing. Specifically: > > The message occurs when trying to add the route corresponding to a new > interface address. One of the steps in adding the route is to use the > interface address table to figure out which interface the route should > be marked for use with. The message indicates that this calculation > came up with a different answer than the interface that is supposed to > be represented in the first place, so something is inconsistent in > your configuration. > You've shined some light on this, thanks. I was running into the above problem last week with ppp. I found the source of the error message and changed my /etc/hosts table; and my /etc/sysconfig file as well. It was a few days before I tried ppp and discovered that things were hosed! Long-story-short, after further hacking, I fixed at least part of what was wrong. (( Not entirely clear how...but I'm learning.)) Could you (or another network-savvy wizard) publish sample /etc/hosts, /etc/sysconfig, and /etc/network files? Else point me to a tutorial doc? ...Your second message gave me further/other clues: > [/etc/hosts] > 127.0.0.0 localhost 127.0.0.1 > 10.0.0.0 eac.iafrica.com eac 10.0.0.1 You can't have a `host-part' that is all-bits-zero; it's reserved for other uses. > [/etc/sysconfig] > ifconfig_tun0="inet eac.iafrica.com 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" In my /etc/hosts I've got 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.thought.org 128.95.3.70 tao.thought.org tao to indicate that for my *local* site (a fake network for now), I am 127.0.0.1, and when I am connected via SLIP or PPP to the net, I become 128.95.3.70. Is this correct? or, more to the point, will this configuration make sense to my FreeBSD software and work otherwise?? Thanks for any words of wisdom! gary kline > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 14:51:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA14246 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper119225.iafrica.com [196.7.119.225]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14226 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00368; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 00:50:46 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601012250.AAA00368@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: PPP glitches To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett A. Wollman) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 00:50:44 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601012016.AA12553@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett A. Wollman" at Jan 1, 96 03:16:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On 1 Jan 1996, Garrett A. Wollman wrote: > > > [/etc/hosts] > > 127.0.0.0 localhost > 127.0.0.1 > > 10.0.0.0 eac.iafrica.com eac > 10.0.0.1 > > You can't have a `host-part' that is all-bits-zero; it's reserved for > other uses. Thanks for the advice. I put in the changes, though they haven't done anything for the "SIOCAIFADDR" or "wrong ifa" problems, worse luck. Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must be quite common, I would have thought.) Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same state as before a connection was made. -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 15:48:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA16828 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from zork.tiac.net (zork.tiac.net [199.0.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16822 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from momcat.swaa.com (tarbet.tiac.net [199.3.140.106]) by zork.tiac.net (8.6.9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id SAA21092; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: Priority: Normal To: fbsd MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Margaret Tarbet Subject: 2.1 install problem Date: Mon, 01 Jan 96 18:52:23 EST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Got my copy of the 2.1 cd and tried to install it on my dev machine. Didn't work. The (novice) install appeared to go successfully, but my dos boot block was clobbered without obviously being replaced by the bsd boot. After i fixed the boot block so that dos would run again, i tried the install again, same result. In both cases, because i want to use System Commander to manage the boot selection, i chose to have a simple boot block installed rather than the bsd boot manager. That shouldn't be significant, but y'never know. My system has an AIR 486/66 EISA/VLB mamaboard with 32Mb of 60ns, 256K cache, and an Adaptec 2742 SCSI card with 2x 1Gb Micropolises (devs 0 and 1), 2x 1GB Fujitsus (devs 2 and 3), an old 200Mb Connor (dev 4), a Archive Viper 250Mb tape drive (dev 5) (what makes that a "known rogue" btw?), and hanging off the back of the bus, a NEC 3x cdrom (dev 6). Device 0 has DOS 6.2.2 and Unixware 2.0, managed by System Commander. Device 1 continues with an extended DOS part and a Unixware part. Device 2 has an extended DOS part in the front half, and the back half is where i attempted to install fbsd. Device 3 is dedicated to DOS, and device 4 to Unixware. Far's i can tell, source to the installer isn't included so i'm pretty much on the beach with this. Any ideas? This next bit is an offer of help rather than the foregoing request for same, so it might just confuse things here, in which case i hope someone will say so i can send it on to a better address: I'd like to help with the project, if there's any perceived need for my field of expertise which is product usability/human factors/ergonomics/whatever. Unlike most folk in this field, i'm also a techie, tho as you might suppose i prefer working up at the human end of the food chain rather than at the kernal-and-device-driver level. I was moved to volunteer by the problems i still had with the install even tho it has clearly had a large amount of good energy and thought go into it. Two quick examples: selecting an exclusive option (e.g., which device to install to) requires two steps (arrow-keying to the right line, pressing space). But it is quite easy (as i myself discovered!) to make the move and then hit return...which doesn't alter the existing selection even tho it "feels" as tho it should. Which brings up the second example: there's no clean way to recover from such a mistake. It is possible to recover by patiently defaulting through the rest of the choices and then re-starting from scratch, but it would be quite nice not to have to do that. Let me know if it feels like my sort of expertise might be welcome. regards, =margaret From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:09:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17268 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17263 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:09:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA28569; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:24:07 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601020024.TAA28569@hda.com> Subject: Re: CD interface To: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU (Dave Glowacki) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:24:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601012217.QAA19302@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> from "Dave Glowacki" at Jan 1, 96 04:17:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm trying to bring up xmcd on FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. By default, it tries > to use /dev/rcd0c to communicate with the drive, but that results in a > bunch of "SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl failed: Permission denied" messages (even when > running as root). > > According to the cd(4) man page: > > In addition the general scsi(4) ioctls may be used with the cd > driver, if used against the fourth (raw/whole disk) partiton. > (e.g. rcd0d) > > but after creating /dev/rsd0d with "mknod rcd0d c 15 3" and reconfiguring > xmcd, I get "Cannot open /dev/rcd0d: errno=6" > > Does anybody have this working with 2.1.0? Might this be an older version of xmcd that opens the device read only? I think it was patched at some point to open it read/write. To use the generic scsi calls you need to open the device read/write. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:38:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17901 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17889 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02514; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:08:31 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020038.LAA02514@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.1 install problem To: tarbet@swaa.com (Margaret Tarbet) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:08:31 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Margaret Tarbet" at Jan 1, 96 06:52:23 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Margaret Tarbet stands accused of saying: > Got my copy of the 2.1 cd and tried to install it on my dev > machine. Didn't work. The (novice) install appeared to go > successfully, but my dos boot block was clobbered without > obviously being replaced by the bsd boot. After i fixed the In context, it's more likely that the bootblock was replaced with a vanilla bootblock that pointed to the BSD slice. > boot block so that dos would run again, i tried the install > again, same result. In both cases, because i want to use > System Commander to manage the boot selection, i chose to > have a simple boot block installed rather than the bsd boot > manager. That shouldn't be significant, but y'never know. It is; you shouldn't be installing any bootblock at all, as it will override your current (I presume "System Commander") bootblock, which is not what you want. > Micropolises (devs 0 and 1), 2x 1GB Fujitsus (devs 2 and Micropoli? 8) > 3), an old 200Mb Connor (dev 4), a Archive Viper 250Mb tape > drive (dev 5) (what makes that a "known rogue" btw?), and It deviates from the SCSI spec, requiring special handling. > Device 0 has DOS 6.2.2 and Unixware 2.0, managed by System > Commander. Device 1 continues with an extended DOS part and > a Unixware part. Device 2 has an extended DOS part in the > front half, and the back half is where i attempted to > install fbsd. Device 3 is dedicated to DOS, and device 4 > to Unixware. Unless you have a hoopy BIOS here, you're SOL; booting from anything other than the first two disks is more or less impossible under the PC-AT BIOS model. If you shrink the DOS partition on the first disk by about 50M you can put a BSD root filesystem there and then mount from the third. > Far's i can tell, source to the installer isn't included so > i'm pretty much on the beach with this. Any ideas? /usr/src/release/* > I'd like to help with the project, if there's any perceived > need for my field of expertise which is product > usability/human factors/ergonomics/whatever. Unlike most > folk in this field, i'm also a techie, tho as you might > suppose i prefer working up at the human end of the food > chain rather than at the kernal-and-device-driver level. I You should get in touch with Frank Durda (bsdmail@nemesis.lonestar.org); this is one of his fields too, and I'd wager the two of you can offer an awful lot in the way of suggestions that would help us human-hostile programmers 8) > =margaret -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:39:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17931 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17926 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00230; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:12:26 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:12:26 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: steve hovey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1R nfs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, steve hovey wrote: > If I try to use nfs with 2.1R (unlike 2.0.5 or 2.0) it complains that > there is now /var/something/mountdb Do you mean there is no /var/db/mountdtab? (Please try and be as precise as you can when reporting error messages). If so, it's due to a typo in the 2.1 installation program - it creates a file called mountdbtab instead of mountdtab. Just do (as root) # su bin # cd /var/db # mv mountdbtab mountdtab # exit James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:39:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17967 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17953 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00263; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:23:33 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:23:33 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Kevin McQuiggin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with NCSA httpd v1.5 In-Reply-To: <199512281801.KAA22136@ferrari.sfu.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > I have a very minor problem with NCSA httpd 1.5 running on FBSD 2.1: > > When I run a cgi program written in C (as opposed to a shell script), and > that program uses environment variables (such as SERVER_PORT or > CONTENT_LENGTH) that should be set by httpd prior to doing an execve, the > environment variables get lost and are NOT set by the time my program is > invoked. Calls to getenv() return NULL for all of these variables. Do any of the test programs supplied in cgi-src work? James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:39:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18019 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18012 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00210; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:59:04 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:59:04 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: mitch@bighorn.accessnv.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing from dos part or CD In-Reply-To: <199512280943.BAA12389@bighorn.accessnv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995 mitch@bighorn.accessnv.com wrote: > I xcopied the files from e:\dist\bin to my c:\freebsd. I actually > copied the whole dist's to my C: drive because I have enough free > space on C:. I then proceeded to copy the floppies directory and I > also made a bootable floppy. When I ran the install program and said > the media type was from dos partition, it would create my new > partitions but it could not find the boot mirror from the dos > partition or from the floppy I had made. The install program expects to find the distfiles in the same directories as on the CD's, ie in c:\freebsd\bin, c:\freebsd\src, etc. (I think this is mentioned in the instructions somewhere). James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:40:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18107 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18102 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00256; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:21:34 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:21:33 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Bob Willcox cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Setting up a gateway machine? In-Reply-To: <199512281809.MAA15982@luke.pmr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Bob Willcox wrote: > I am trying to setup one of my systems to serve as a gateway machine > between two ethernet networks. (Note: I am, relatively, a netorking > novice :-() I have built the kernel with the "GATEWAY" option, > but obviously have to do more than just that. (Since it still will > not forward packets from one network to the other). The (to be) > gateway machine can talk to systems on both networks, it just > doesn't seem to want to do the forwarding Apparently the GATEWAY option is deprecated. If you're running 2.1, just edit /etc/sysconfig and change the gateway line from NO to YES. For earlier versions, there's a sysctl command - 'man sysctl' will give the details. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:40:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18139 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18128 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00194; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:43:53 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:43:52 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Mark Stout cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Config error w/-current In-Reply-To: <199512271841.SAA02561@spunky.vpm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Mark Stout wrote: > First, I've downloaded all of -current 'src' files. I've backed up my > original files so I can replace them if need be. When I do a config > I get the following error: > > Unknown % construct in generic makefile: %SFILES > > Looking at the Makefile.i386, I see %SFILES, along with some others. Is this > caused by some option I selected in my kernel config file? Apparently you need to rebuild the config utility before you do anything else. > That may be beyond the scope of this mailing list, I don't know. Yes, the freebsd-currrent list is the one you want. > So, there you have it. I definately *need* BSDI v2.0 compatibility and I'm > only going to get that with -current. So now you know why I need to get > -current up and running. Any help would be appreciated. Unless you're really desperate for it, it might be better to wait until things have settled down a bit and the first snapshot comes out. I've thought a bit about getting involved with -current, but it looks like a lot of work even getting started, not to mention the risk of running alpha (or even pre-alpha) code on a machine that I need for other things, and I don't really have the time (or the backups!) for it. Also I'm stuck with a 14.4k modem, on the wrong side of the Atlantic. One day, perhaps. On the other hand, if you do have the time and the inclination, you seem to know what you're letting yourself in for, so why not go for it! Good luck James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:42:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18237 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from crash.ops.neosoft.com (root@crash.ops.NeoSoft.COM [206.109.4.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18232 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by crash.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id SAA24121 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:44:21 -0600 From: Daniel Baker Message-Id: <199601020044.SAA24121@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: AMD Chips & FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:44:20 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm thinking about buying a new machine that has an AMD 486-100 DX4 chip, and I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems running on an AMD chip, or if there is anything special needed in the kernel configuration, etc. Thanks -- dbaker@neosoft.com - Daniel Baker - FTP & UseNet Admin - Neosoft, Inc. Any opinions expressed are mine. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:43:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18270 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18256 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02529; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:13:46 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020043.LAA02529@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Installation Problem To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:13:46 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <01HZD0H2U80I008RES@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Dec 29, 95 01:11:24 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson stands accused of saying: > > I installed (or I think I did) FreeBSD 2.1 from the cdrom, on a second > SCSI hard drive. OS2's boot manager (along with DOS/WIN 3.1) was on the > first SCSI hd. Argh. There's a known (now) bug in the 2.1 sysinstall that may trash the bootblock on the first disk when installing to the second. You will want to get a copy of the bootinst.exe and boot.bin files off the CD and use bootinst to write boot.bin (the BootEasy bootmanager) to the first disk. You can replace booteasy at a later date with a 'standard' MBR after this works. > Would anyone know what "no rom basic" means and how I can fix this? It means that the BIOS has searched for a bootable disk and not found one. About fifteen years ago, the original PCs had BASIC in ROM (IBM and close compactibles only) and if they had no boot disk, would start the (braindead) ROM BASIC. Less close compatibles would search for the BASIC ROM and emit the above error message (in 40x25 text mode) if they couldn't find it. The existence of the message in this day and age is either a joke on the part of the BIOS authors, or an attempt at "maximum" compatability. > Annelise -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:55:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18607 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18593 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02566; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:26:14 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020056.LAA02566@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: More info on install problem To: DGY@hillae.com (Yankura David) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:26:14 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Yankura David" at Dec 29, 95 11:48:08 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Yankura David stands accused of saying: > This process creates a freebsd partition @ offset 57, size > 485298, named sd1s1 w/flag "C" > > I then execute option "W" to save these changes. Please, follow the release notes. Read the online help. Pay particular attention to this paragraph : NOTE: The (W)rite option is HIGHLY DANGEROUS and should NOT BE USED if you're installing a new system! It's only for use in resurrecting or changing an existing system, and will cause unpredictable things to happen if you use it in any other circumstances. Don't do it! Wait for the final commit dialog if you're express/novice installing, or use the "Commit" menu item if you're custom installing, and do it there. If you are installing from CDROM, please also not the paragraph headed "o Custom Installation" on page vi of the booklet; an excrpt from which reads : "In particular, the (W)rite options in the fidsk and label screens _will_not_work_ for a new installation!..." > If I continue on with the installation I get the error that I > have reported before during the creation of /bin: > > on the console session: "panic: bad dir" > > and on the 2nd screen: "/mnt: bad dir ino 157 at offset 677: > mangled entry" This may or may not be related to the problem above. > dgy@hillae.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:02:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA18936 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18930 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02587; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:33:25 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020103.LAA02587@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: handy@condor.physics.montana.edu (Brian Handy) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:33:25 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Handy" at Dec 29, 95 10:55:24 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Brian Handy stands accused of saying: > These part numbers are lost on me. I've been trying to get an ASUS MB > *and* get the NCR on-board SCSI. I've heard arguments about how the BIOS > won't deal with it and I'll have to boot off a floppy, and (sigh) I even > had a dealer tell me I couldn't do it. Complete crap. All the ASUS motherboards have NCR support in their BIOS. > Now, I wanted 512KB cache w/ Pipeline burst. I don't know if that's > somehow the cause of my problems. No. > To wrap things up...can someone explain to me where I'm completely off in > left field? basically, how do I solve this problem and get a nice MB with > the cheap SCSI interface? If the motherboard has an onboard NCR controller, it will have support for it in the BIOS. _ALL_ ASUS motherboard support the NCR chips either onboard or on the SC200 cards. Many other motherboards have NCR support; Soyo is one other manufacturer that does PBurst motherboards that have NCR support. > Brian -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:10:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19236 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19230 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02624; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:40:09 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020110.LAA02624@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? To: akyol@wireless.stanford.edu (Bora Akyol) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:40:09 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <30E4AF60.41C67EA6@wireless.stanford.edu> from "Bora Akyol" at Dec 29, 95 07:17:52 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Bora Akyol stands accused of saying: > Now I have two IDE drives (one on each controller) and a SCSI > drive and FreeBSD is on my SCSI drive. When I installed FreeBSD > I chose to install the boot manager but that did not work apparently. > Can someone please tell me how to make this boot loader work. > I can now boot FreeBSD via the floppy but that is kind of awkward and > requires me to be very alert. By the way I type hd(2,a)/kernel > at the install floppy boot prompt. I'd guess that you're going to have a very hard time with this combination, depending on what your BIOS does with the second IDE disk. Traditional PC-AT BIOSes will only boot from the first two disks. You may be able to get somewhere using the fbsdboot program and a kernel on a DOS partition. > Bora -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:20:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19690 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19683 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02683; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:49:34 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020119.LAA02683@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: weird local HD errors To: olsenc@ichips.intel.com Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:49:33 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jhewitt@uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu, jhp@cypress.com In-Reply-To: <9512310541.AA28004@dtt034.intel.com> from "olsenc@ichips.intel.com" at Dec 30, 95 09:41:46 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk olsenc@ichips.intel.com stands accused of saying: > > > Ok folks, these types of errors caused the eventual demise > of our 2.0.5 installation. I attempted a reboot when the > machine was acting very strangely, and the partition table > ended up getting toasted. Here is a log showing what happened > within 24 hours of our 2.1 install: > > Dec 30 14:50:24 smokey /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 352784 of 352784-352799 (wd0 bn 352784; cn 349 tn 15 sn 47)wd0: status 50 error 0 Yecch. Do you have APM on this machine? > Dec 30 14:50:28 smokey /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: > Dec 30 14:50:28 smokey /kernel: wd0: status 50 error 0 > Dec 30 15:02:55 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 IRQ 15? Do you have any hardware on IRQ15? Is this a PCI machine? Do you have anything on the second IDE channel? > What the hell is going on? It sounds like a hardware problem, but > we NEVER saw any strange behavior when we installed and were busy > compiling ports on the system or beating up the network. Sounds like hardware or config. IRQ 15 is normally assigned to the second IDE controller; I'd be very suspicious. > -Clint -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:25:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19830 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from albion.loach.org (root@loach.org [199.233.190.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19824 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:25:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alexei@localhost) by albion.loach.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA03171 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:27:01 GMT From: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov Message-Id: <199601011727.RAA03171@albion.loach.org> Subject: YP Question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:26:59 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there a FreeBSD equivalent of ypinit? I'm more comfortable with plain Sun yp, as that's what I work with at work, but can't quite grasp what to do to get FreeBSD yp ramped up. Pointers to a FAQ or some docs somewhere would be deeply appreciated! --Alexei From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:28:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19988 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19927 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02721; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:57:00 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020127.LAA02721@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.1.0-R install & partitioning 4gb disk problem To: skynyrd@tahoma.cwu.edu (Chris Timmons) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:57:00 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chris Timmons" at Dec 31, 95 02:35:29 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Chris Timmons stands accused of saying: > I can create a working 2.1.0 system only so long as I use the 4gb disk as > a single giant partition. I have done this and the system comes up and is > happy with the 4gb drive. I am using 4095/64/32 for the disk geometry on > the micropolis, as suggested by the installation program. > > However, when I use the installation procedure to partition and label the > 4gb disk into multiple slices, I run into trouble as soon as I continue > with the part of the installation which actually writes the labels to the > disks (I am NOT using 'w' from within FDISK!): A question; why would you want to split the 4G disk into multiple partitions? > -Chris A quick check; find the "PCI bus latency timer" option in your BIOS, and make sure it's set to 32 or less. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:30:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA20063 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20058 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id RAA10607 (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:30:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601020130.RAA10607@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 17:30:42 -0800 To: James Raynard From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Re: Problem with NCSA httpd v1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 12:23 PM 95.12.30 +0000, you wrote: >On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > >> I have a very minor problem with NCSA httpd 1.5 running on FBSD 2.1: >> >> When I run a cgi program written in C (as opposed to a shell script), and >> that program uses environment variables (such as SERVER_PORT or >> CONTENT_LENGTH) that should be set by httpd prior to doing an execve, the >> environment variables get lost and are NOT set by the time my program is >> invoked. Calls to getenv() return NULL for all of these variables. > >Do any of the test programs supplied in cgi-src work? No, they are broken as well! Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:35:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA20324 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA20310 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA01511; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:34:57 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 08:56:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199512311656.IAA28066@ix6.ix.netcom.com> From: tweir@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Weir) Subject: Running Mumps on Free BSD 2.1 To: www@freebsd.org ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:34:52 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: John Fieber ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Will it work ? We are looking for a unix operating system for the PC to do testing with our current application written in Mumps and to play with. If the product did work what kind of support would we be able to get for any problems we would encounter. -Tom Weir Tweir@ix.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:03:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21584 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21579 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:03:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA13816 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:03:52 -0700 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199601020203.TAA13816@terra.aros.net> Subject: Default gateway To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:03:52 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have two FreeBSD boxes here (2.1.0 and 2.1.0-SNAP-something), and now and then, they both have a neat habit of forgetting what their default gateway is and being unable to send packets outside of the local ethernet. Is there a quick fix to this? (I have a cron job that runs and resets it, but that seems like a bit of an akward workaround), or is it due to some subtle misconfiguration on my part? The only thing I can think of is that some other host is sending routing information that's not correct, but... er, I don't _think_ that's the case. :) Anyway, any information/guesses/etc would be much appreciated. -Dave Andersen -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual/ "She totally confused all the passing piranhas" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:04:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21711 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:04:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21704 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.177.193.231] (n4hhe.ampr.org [204.177.193.231]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9 Secure) with SMTP id UAA07257 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:04:27 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:04:27 -0600 To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) Subject: Re: HTML & ATAPI part 3 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Anthony Hill replied >> So I need a work around installing packages by way of DOS. Needed is a >> utility that takes a package subtree copied over from DOS and applies the >> tables, restoring the long file names. Does such a thing exist? Otherwise, >> I'll write one. > >I think you are going about this the hard way. The wcarchive ftp site >supports tarring of subdirectories on the fly. (or at least it used to) >You just append something like .tar.Z to the end of the subdir name when you >do a get, and you should get the whole tree. .tar.Z, .tar.gz, and probably .tgz works as expected. But if you are downloading already-compressed data an additional compress/gzip/whatever is a waste of the host CPU's cycles. Plus the result is likely to be larger than the original. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ============================================================= To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. -- Thomas Edison From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:45:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23225 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lynx.dac.neu.edu (lynx.dac.neu.edu [129.10.1.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23219 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from aong@localhost) by lynx.dac.neu.edu (suprise!) id VAA10598 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:44:54 -0500 From: Andrew Ong Message-Id: <199601020244.VAA10598@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Subject: Newbie Q: How to route mails? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:44:53 -0500 (EST) Department: Faculty of Computer Engineering Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would appreciate if someone can help in this sendmail config. I'm new at this mail routing stuff. I run a BBS with dailup UUCP mail (userid@domain.org) currently. Recently I have got a Class C address and 56k leased line. I plan to put both the BBS and my Web server/DNS (FreeBSD) onto the net via my router as gateway and forget about UUCP! I have to assign the nodename for the BBS to bbs.domain.org and the nodename for the Web server to www.domain.org. How do I configure sendmail.cf and/or DNS MX record so that my users on the BBS will _NOT_ require to change their email from userid@domain.org to userid@bbs.domain.org? Or in other words, all I need here is to correctly route incoming mails for userid@domain.org to the BBS while mails for userid@www.domain.org to the Web Server? Both the BBS and the Web Server runs SMTP. Thanks in advance. Regards, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:48:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23328 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA23323 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA03148; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:18:52 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020248.NAA03148@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Default gateway To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:18:52 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601020203.TAA13816@terra.aros.net> from "Dave Andersen" at Jan 1, 96 07:03:52 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Dave Andersen stands accused of saying: > > I have two FreeBSD boxes here (2.1.0 and 2.1.0-SNAP-something), and > now and then, they both have a neat habit of forgetting what their > default gateway is and being unable to send packets outside of the local Turn off gated in /etc/sysconfig. > -Dave Andersen -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:55:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23522 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bastion.fulcrum.com.au (fulcrum.com.au [203.2.211.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23507 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bastion.fulcrum.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with UUCP id NAA22005 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:53:25 +1100 Received: from hosaka (hosaka [203.2.211.56]) by fulcrum.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA06866 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:47:22 +1100 From: Peter Marelas Received: (maral@localhost) by hosaka (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA07984 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:48:43 +1100 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:48:43 +1100 Message-Id: <199601012348.KAA07984@hosaka> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe questions-freebsd maral@fulcrum.com.au From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:57:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23671 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23663 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:57:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601020257.SAA23663@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Andrew Ong cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Q: How to route mails? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jan 1996 21:44:53 EST." <199601020244.VAA10598@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 18:57:42 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >How do I configure sendmail.cf and/or DNS MX record so that my users on the >BBS will _NOT_ require to change their email from userid@domain.org to >userid@bbs.domain.org? Or in other words, all I need here is to correctly >route incoming mails for userid@domain.org to the BBS while mails for >userid@www.domain.org to the Web Server? Both the BBS and the Web Server >runs SMTP. Make domain.org a CNAME for bbs.domain.org or, make bbs.domain.org the primary MX record for domain.org. The second option requires that you add a "Cwdomain.org" entry in the sendmail.cf file on the BBS. Pick up some of the Oreily & Assoc. books if you need the details (www.ora.com). >Thanks in advance. > >Regards, >Andrew > > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:02:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA23908 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23902 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from why.whine.com ([142.77.242.18]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <212229-1>; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:02:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:04:15 -0500 From: Andrew Herdman To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mounting removable media Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems mounting my worm drive (it has a controller that makes it to appear to be a removable media hard disk). If the media is not in it when I boot, i cannot mount the disk as I get this error: # mount /dev/sd2a /mnt /dev/sd2a on /mnt: Incorrect super block. the boot up gives this for the device: (bt0:4:0): "Ten X OCU-300S 3.03" type 0 removable SCSI 2 sd2(bt0:4:0): Direct-Access sd2(bt0:4:0): NOT READY asc:4,0 sd2(bt0:4:0): Logical unit not ready, cause not reportable sd2 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry sd2(bt0:4:0): NOT READY asc:4,0 sd2(bt0:4:0): Logical unit not ready, cause not reportable sd2: could not get size 0MB (0 512 byte sectors) I'm not sure how to get it to mount other than to have the media in the drive which is inconvenient at times. I am running 2.1 CD release. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:02:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA23954 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA23944 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15360(1)>; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:01:56 PST Received: by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21787; Mon, 1 Jan 96 22:02:08 EST Message-Id: <9601020302.AA21787@gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: minor numbers on ide disks? Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:07 PST From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I want to swap on to wd0s6 (an extended partition) shown as: wd0s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 1137023, size 1136961 : OK wd0s2: type 0x5, start 1137024, end = 1753919, size 616896 : OK wd0s3: type 0xa5, start 1753920, end = 2261951, size 508032 : OK wd0s5: type 0x83, start 1137087, end = 1447487, size 310401 : OK wd0: type 0x5, start 1447488, end = 1511999, size 64512 : OK wd0s6: type 0x82, start 1447551, end = 1511999, size 64449 : OK How do I construct a device to support this...the standard devices are brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 131074 Dec 29 20:18 /dev/wd0s1 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 196610 Dec 29 20:18 /dev/wd0s2 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262146 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262144 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3a brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262145 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3b brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262146 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3c brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262147 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3d brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262148 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3e brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262149 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3f brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262150 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3g brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262151 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3h brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 327682 Dec 29 20:18 /dev/wd0s4 bash$ dmesg | grep wd0 wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Happy new year... marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:05:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA24064 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:05:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24050 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id VAA11207; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:04:20 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199601020304.VAA11207@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:04:19 -0600 (CST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601011754.SAA05624@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jan 1, 96 06:54:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As Joe Greco wrote: > > > > The more paranoid among us will be even more cautious: you don't want > > people gaining a comprehensive listing of users on your system as easily as > > downloading the pwd.db file. I do something similar but with a twist: > > You could as well install a list of dummy users. Then you might as well not do it at all (or make 'em all "ftp"). Usually people want to display the usernames in order to provide an easy to see correlation between a file and which archive maintainer installed it... My technique at least minimizes the chances of somebody finding out complete lists of semi-useful information about users (i.e. what users there are), and also protects more subtle very-useful information about things like assigned UID's (think: "someone pulling tricks with NFS"). First rule of security, the less they know, the safer you are. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:30:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA25039 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [192.231.221.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA25033 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peterb@localhost) by ivory.lm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16166; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:30:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:30:21 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Berger X-Sender: peterb@ivory.lm.com To: Dave Glowacki cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD interface In-Reply-To: <199601012217.QAA19302@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> Message-ID: X-Mentos: The Freshmaker! X-Request-Do: resolve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This is a bug in either the documentation for ioctl or the scsi driver. The documentation does not indicate that EACCESS is a valid return value for ioctl. My hackaround was this: at line 263 of /sys/scsi/scsi_ioctl.c, add an #ifndef.... #ifndef XMCDKLUDGE if (cmd != SCIOCIDENTIFY && !(flags & FWRITE)) return EACCES; #endif /* XMCDKLUDGE */ and, obviously include options XMCDKLUDGE in your kernel config file. The "correct" way to fix this is not to hack the kernel but to recompile xmcd so that it doesn't mount the cd read-only; but I don't have motif sources so that's not an option. Note that the xmcd package -WILL NOT WORK ON 2.1 SYSTEMS- as distributed, because of this. Why is scsi_ioctl.c returning EACCESS in this case? Is there a rationale for it? It just seems like a check without a problem.... On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Dave Glowacki wrote: > I'm trying to bring up xmcd on FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. By default, it tries > to use /dev/rcd0c to communicate with the drive, but that results in a > bunch of "SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl failed: Permission denied" messages (even when > running as root). > > According to the cd(4) man page: > > In addition the general scsi(4) ioctls may be used with the cd > driver, if used against the fourth (raw/whole disk) partiton. > (e.g. rcd0d) > > but after creating /dev/rsd0d with "mknod rcd0d c 15 3" and reconfiguring > xmcd, I get "Cannot open /dev/rcd0d: errno=6" > > Does anybody have this working with 2.1.0? > "The law locks up both man and woman/Who steals the goose from off the common But lets the greater felon loose/Who steals the common from the goose." -anon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Berger - peterb@telerama.lm.com - http://www.lm.com/~peterb From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:52:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA26282 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line16.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26268 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00416; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:13 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:13 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Margaret Tarbet cc: fbsd Subject: Re: 2.1 install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Margaret Tarbet wrote: > again, same result. In both cases, because i want to use > System Commander to manage the boot selection, i chose to > have a simple boot block installed rather than the bsd boot > manager. That shouldn't be significant, but y'never know. OK, then, you DON'T want to even *touch* the MBR, so make that selection. Then configure syscommander with your new bsd partition. You might try booting using the install floppy and giving the path to the new disk, ie boot: sd0(0,a)/kernel or whatever is appropriate. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:52:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA26305 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26283 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-20.net7d.io.org [204.92.51.20]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA09493; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:52:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:52:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199601020352.WAA09493@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Some more info on this: I tried the stty command on /dev/cuaa1 after trying iij-ppp again, and found that the crtscts and clocal options were now set. I tried this (on another login session) after typing the 'term' command within iij-ppp. It seems that iij-ppp is setting these device options, and that these options are not the problem. So, it looks like I am back at square one, i.e. iij-ppp cannot talk to the modem... -- Stephen Jonathan, At 06:13 PM 12/31/95 -0500, you wrote: > > what you have included looks correct :) > > do you have crtscts enabled on /dev/cuaa1? what about clocal? >please check these by doing 'stty -a /dev/cuaa1'. you have have a getty >running on any of the ttydX ports? Ok, these options are not set, i.e. 'stty -a ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tony@localhost) by hornet.netac.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA12827; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 05:56:49 +0200 From: Tony Harverson Message-Id: <199601020356.FAA12827@hornet.netac.co.za> Subject: Re: Newbie Q: How to route mails? To: aong@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Andrew Ong) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 05:56:49 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601020244.VAA10598@lynx.dac.neu.edu> from "Andrew Ong" at Jan 1, 96 09:44:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, Hiya :) > > I would appreciate if someone can help in this sendmail config. I'm new > at this mail routing stuff. This is not sendmail stuff, but dns/MX stuff... > How do I configure sendmail.cf and/or DNS MX record so that my users on the > BBS will _NOT_ require to change their email from userid@domain.org to > userid@bbs.domain.org? Or in other words, all I need here is to correctly > route incoming mails for userid@domain.org to the BBS while mails for > userid@www.domain.org to the Web Server? Both the BBS and the Web Server > runs SMTP. okay, What you need to do is to add an MX entry to your tables (write back if you want an example) that points domain.org to bbs.domain.org. - No change should be nessacary for the www server - if that has a dns entry, that will be used to deliver the mail. Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 20:01:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA26869 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line16.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26858 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00460; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:01:19 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:01:19 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Robert Nordier cc: "Garrett A. Wollman" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP glitches In-Reply-To: <199601012250.AAA00368@eac.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with > iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must > be quite common, I would have thought.) I have this situation. I just modified 'simplesite' and left the defaults as they are. Unfortunately, it appears that 'ppp.linkup' isn't functioning...I have a bunch of annoying routes and try to delete them wiht it and nothing happens. I end up su'ing to root, running a script to delete them, then adding a default route for the connection. For example, this is what I get just after connecting: gdi# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 128.223.150.166 128.223.150.182 UH 6 0 tun0 So I enter 'route add default 128.223.150.166' and all is well. > Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately > neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same > state as before a connection was made. When I do 'close' in ppp, it deletes the default route just fine. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 20:14:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA27618 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27613 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HZIBJ6B68G009B4T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 01 Jan 1996 20:15:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 20:15:27 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: A Few Questions Re: 2.1 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZIBJ6BPIQ009B4T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" X-VMS-Cc: ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've just installed 2.1 and am having trouble getting a few things working: 1) The mouse. The mouse is a bus mouse that plugs into an ATI Mach 32 Graphics Ultra Pro card. Start-up messages include mse0 at 0x23c irq 5 on isa. I've tried various mouse protocols in XF86Config (MouseMan, Busmouse, Microsoft). /dev/mouse is linked to mse0. I'm not sure this mouse is really using irq 5; IRQ 5 is used, I think, by the sound-blaster emulation part of the ProAudio Spectrum card. I tried booting with kernel -c and putting mse0 on irq 4. Then I get a message that mse0 is not probed because of a conflict with sio0. A serial mouse, protocol Microsoft, device /dev/ttyd0, on sio0, works, but I'd rather just have one rodent on the desk. 2) The computer hangs up if I try to get a listing of configured devices with lsdev and at some other odd times. 3) The computer does not reboot with /sbin/shutdown -r now. It syncs disks and hangs, requiring a hard reboot. 4) When I try to mount the floppy drives (/sbin/mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt) I get a message that the device is not configured. Start-up messages indicate that the floppy disk controller is found (fdc0 at 0x3f0-0xdf7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa) but no other messages; all the floppy devices are listed in /dev. The controller is a GSI 11 configured as the primary floppy disk controller. One solved problem--slip seems rather difficult to configure for negotiating IP addresses dynamically, but dip (Dial Internet Provider?) works quite easily. A new port in 2.1, I think. Very nice. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:00:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29125 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29119 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA23128 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:02:39 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601020502.VAA23128@MediaCity.com> Subject: sorting by character position To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:02:39 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm positive I remember doing this in my pre-BSD days. All I want to do is sort -n -d -k 14,29 sorted where -k 14,29 is supposed to mean that sort is supposed to consider the data in columns 14 - 29 of each line as the key to sort by. However, from my reading of the sort man page, it doesn't seem to have this functionality. However, I remember I used to be able to do this in my SYSV days. Have I missed something? -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:03:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29201 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from seldon.terminus.com (seldon.terminus.com [204.182.12.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29196 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sm_4.terminus.com by seldon.terminus.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/Chill_out) id AA26845; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:02:57 -0800 Message-Id: <30E8BC0C.17F5@terminus.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 21:01:00 -0800 From: Douglas MacDonald Organization: GeckoGraphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: neophyte can't install freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Howdy Happy New Year I have FreeBSDv2.0.5 on cdrom from Walnut Creek. I have a IDE cdrom, which if I understand the installation notes correctly, is not supported by freebsd. I also have a conner tape back up connected to my floppy drive. Can I install from the tape back up (given of course that I copy all the files from the cdrom to the tapes, which I've done)? I copied the minimum directory to my partition which I hope to install freebsd on. At one point I tried to install from the hard drive, but was unsuccessful. I had created a boot disk and was attempting to use the installation utility off the boot disk. I suspect that I hadn't correctly assigned the intended partition, or that the extended logical drive was unmountable. This is all new to me and I am stumbling around in the dark, nes pa! Anyway, when I was asked by the utility to input the path for the previous minimum install, it wasn't recognized. Currently I have Win95 and OS2warp on my system with a 'os2warp' created boot manager which allows me to choose at start up which os I desire. If this isn't all messy enough, let me add a note regarding my confussion about the potential problems surrounding my computers hardware address's. As I mentioned earlier, I've been using the boot disk utility. When I boot from it, the disk looks at my system and displays a list of what it finds and what it can not. Question: Without the address's resolved prior to installation will an attempted installation of freebsd screw up the currently installed operating systems. Is the worst that could happen is that I would have to re-install anew Win95 and os2? Does the installation of FreeBsd change the internal addressing system? Does my question reveal my ignorance of computer hardware? Last question: Have you heard of the software utility called "System Commander 2.1" by V Communications? Supposedly it assist's the user in setting up multiple operating systems on one hard drive. Any feed back will be appreciated, unless you laugh hysterically at my query. Thanxs in advance Doug MacDonald From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:12:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29525 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from seldon.terminus.com (seldon.terminus.com [204.182.12.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29511 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sm_4.terminus.com by seldon.terminus.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/Chill_out) id AA27353; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:11:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:11:53 -0800 Message-Id: <9601020511.AA27353@seldon.terminus.com> X-Sender: geckogrf@seldon.terminus.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Douglas MacDonald Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Howdy Happy New Year I have FreeBSDv2.0.5 on cdrom from Walnut Creek. I have a IDE cdrom, which if I understand the installation notes correctly, is not supported by freebsd. I also have a conner tape back up connected to my floppy drive. Can I install from the tape back up (given of course that I copy all the files from the cdrom to the tapes, which I've done)? I copied the minimum directory to my partition which I hope to install freebsd on. At one point I tried to install from the hard drive, but was unsuccessful. I had created a boot disk and was attempting to use the installation utility off the boot disk. I suspect that I hadn't correctly assigned the intended partition, or that the extended logical drive was unmountable. This is all new to me and I am stumbling around in the dark, nes pa! Anyway, when I was asked by the utility to input the path for the previous minimum install, it wasn't recognized. Currently I have Win95 and OS2warp on my system with a 'os2warp' created boot manager which allows me to choose at start up which os I desire. If this isn't all messy enough, let me add a note regarding my confussion about the potential problems surrounding my computers hardware address's. As I mentioned earlier, I've been using the boot disk utility. When I boot from it, the disk looks at my system and displays a list of what it finds and what it can not. Question: Without the address's resolved prior to installation will an attempted installation of freebsd screw up the currently installed operating systems. Is the worst that could happen is that I would have to re-install anew Win95 and os2? Does the installation of FreeBsd change the internal addressing system? Does my question reveal my ignorance of computer hardware? Last question: Have you heard of the software utility called "System Commander 2.1" by V Communications? Supposedly it assist's the user in setting up multiple operating systems on one hard drive. Any feed back will be appreciated, unless you laugh hysterically at my query. Thanxs in advance Doug MacDonald From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:13:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29585 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29578 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA02831; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:09:31 -0600 Message-Id: <9601020509.AA02831@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:09:31 -0600 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD interface Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> I'm trying to bring up xmcd on FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. By default, it tries >> to use /dev/rcd0c to communicate with the drive, but that results in a >> bunch of "SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl failed: Permission denied" messages (even when >> running as root). ... >Might this be an older version of xmcd that opens the device read >only? I think it was patched at some point to open it read/write. >To use the generic scsi calls you need to open the device read/write. That's how I made it work and am running it under 2.1-stable. In the xmcd distribution directory, change libdi.d/os_frbsd.c (the pthru_open function ) to open the device O_RDWR instead of O_RDONLY. *** os_frbsd.c.old Tue Jan 2 01:17:22 1996 --- os_frbsd.c Tue Jan 2 01:17:55 1996 *************** *** 214,220 **** return FALSE; } ! if ((pthru_fd = open(path, O_RDONLY)) < 0) { DBGPRN(errfp, "Cannot open %s: errno=%d\n", path, errno); return FALSE; } --- 214,220 ---- return FALSE; } ! if ((pthru_fd = open(path, O_RDRW)) < 0) { DBGPRN(errfp, "Cannot open %s: errno=%d\n", path, errno); return FALSE; } Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:23:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29796 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29791 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning (tip-mp6-ncs-10.Stanford.EDU [36.173.0.121]) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA02965; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:16:22 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:16:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bora Akyol X-Sender: bora@lightning To: Michael Smith cc: Bora Akyol , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? In-Reply-To: <199601020110.LAA02624@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi I already solved this problem. I first installed OS-BS beta version from the CDROM and then hard wired the SCSI drive to be sd2 on the kernel, modified the fstab and everything is fine. Not a big problem, but in my opinion, LINUX booting process is ten times better. Bora On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > Bora Akyol stands accused of saying: > > Now I have two IDE drives (one on each controller) and a SCSI > > drive and FreeBSD is on my SCSI drive. When I installed FreeBSD > > I chose to install the boot manager but that did not work apparently. > > Can someone please tell me how to make this boot loader work. > > I can now boot FreeBSD via the floppy but that is kind of awkward and > > requires me to be very alert. By the way I type hd(2,a)/kernel > > at the install floppy boot prompt. > > I'd guess that you're going to have a very hard time with this combination, > depending on what your BIOS does with the second IDE disk. > > Traditional PC-AT BIOSes will only boot from the first two disks. You > may be able to get somewhere using the fbsdboot program and a kernel on > a DOS partition. > > > Bora > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ > ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:42:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA00452 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00445 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA00738 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:41:01 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199601012141.VAA00738@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: install both pppd and ijjpp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:41:00 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Currently I cam using iijpp/tun for demand dialout and slipd for dialin. I want to change the slipd to pppd. Does it make any sense to install both pppd and iijpp/tun in the same system ? Any recommendation ? TIA. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:18:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01667 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01653 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA03619; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:44:46 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020514.PAA03619@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: A Few Questions Re: 2.1 To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:44:46 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01HZIBJ6BPIQ009B4T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Jan 1, 96 08:15:27 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson stands accused of saying: > 1) The mouse. The mouse is a bus mouse that plugs into an ATI > Mach 32 Graphics Ultra Pro card. Start-up messages include > mse0 at 0x23c irq 5 on isa. I've tried various mouse protocols > in XF86Config (MouseMan, Busmouse, Microsoft). /dev/mouse is > linked to mse0. I'm not sure this mouse is really using irq 5; > IRQ 5 is used, I think, by the sound-blaster emulation part of > the ProAudio Spectrum card. I tried booting with kernel -c and > putting mse0 on irq 4. Then I get a message that mse0 is not Use userconfig to change the kernel settings to match the device settings. It can't work the other way around. > 2) The computer hangs up if I try to get a listing of configured > devices with lsdev and at some other odd times. Yecch. That's not so good; what "other odd times"? > 3) The computer does not reboot with /sbin/shutdown -r now. It > syncs disks and hangs, requiring a hard reboot. This sounds like a nonconformant keyboard controller, and is a problem with a lot of PCI 486 systems and some others 8( > 4) When I try to mount the floppy drives (/sbin/mount -t msdos > /dev/fd0 /mnt) I get a message that the device is not configured. /dev/fd0a is what you want. > Annelise -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:19:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01741 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01725 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA03783; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:48:27 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020618.QAA03783@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? To: bora@wireless.stanford.edu (Bora Akyol) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:48:26 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, akyol@wireless.stanford.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Bora Akyol" at Jan 1, 96 09:16:25 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bora Akyol stands accused of saying: > I already solved this problem. I first installed OS-BS beta version from > the CDROM and then hard wired the SCSI drive to be sd2 on the kernel, > modified the fstab and everything is fine. Not sure I follow, but hey, that's nothing new 8) > Not a big problem, but in my opinion, LINUX booting process is ten times > better. Care to tell us about how it works? We're always happy to improve... > Bora -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:20:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01902 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01867 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA03467; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:10:59 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020440.PAA03467@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: minor numbers on ide disks? To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:10:58 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601020302.AA21787@gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> from "Marty Leisner" at Jan 1, 96 07:02:07 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Marty Leisner stands accused of saying: > > I want to swap on to wd0s6 (an extended partition) shown as: > wd0: type 0x5, start 1447488, end = 1511999, size 64512 : OK > wd0s6: type 0x82, start 1447551, end = 1511999, size 64449 : OK > > > How do I construct a device to support this...the standard devices # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV wd0s6a Should do the trick, then # swapon /dev/wd0s6c > Happy new year... Likewise! > marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:48:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA03452 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from picspc01.pics.com ([192.135.189.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03446 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tpr@localhost) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00531 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:47:46 -0500 From: Terry Rossi Message-Id: <199601020647.BAA00531@picspc01.pics.com> Subject: Hangs after ifconfig on boot To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:47:46 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have an increasingly more frequently problem with 2.1R hanging during system boot-up. Right after the boot-up shows me the ifconfig information for my ethernet device "ed1" it hangs until I hit -C. Then for all of the network deamons I have to also hit -c to get to a login prompt. After I login, I notice that the default route is not set and I cannot ping localhost. After I add "route add default myrouter" I can ping the world, but I still cannot ping "localhost" Any networking quru's want to venture a quess here. I don't think it is a configuration issue, as nothing has changed (famous last words)... TIA Terry -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Terry Rossi tpr@pics.com Data: 609/753-2540 Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:55:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA03592 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (root@oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03587 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlyon (slmel4p10.ozemail.com.au [203.15.163.98]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA18194; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:53:47 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:49:41 +1100 (EST) From: Richard Lyon X-Sender: rlyon@rlyon To: Robert Nordier cc: "Garrett A. Wollman" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP glitches In-Reply-To: <199601012250.AAA00368@eac.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > > Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with > iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must > be quite common, I would have thought.) > > Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately > neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same > state as before a connection was made. > Dynamic addressing on both end ??? I though the source (you) could be dynamic but it is usual to set the destination with a fixed address. Having both ends dynamic would be useful. This would allow you to connect to a number of different destinations. Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 23:28:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA04837 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04831 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01046; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:28:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:28:39 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: linux_emu: bus error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I can't seem to get linux emulation up. I compiled the sources from freebsd-current as indicated, created the /compat/linux/* as directed, and are loading the lkm at boot time. But, when I try to run a Linux X application, like xdoom: gdi,ttyp2,~/bin,54>./xdoom Bus error What is going on?? I tried Xing's xnetview with the same result. Running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE, Xf86 3.1.2s. AdvTHANKSance! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 23:40:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA05516 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05509 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01087; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:26 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:24 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Douglas MacDonald cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <9601020511.AA27353@seldon.terminus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Douglas MacDonald wrote: > Howdy Happy New Year I have FreeBSDv2.0.5 on cdrom from Walnut Creek. Return that and get the 2.1 RELEASE CD if possible. 2.1 is much superior, and has an edge change of getting your IDE cdrom working. > my floppy drive. Can I install from the tape back up (given of course that > I copy all the files from the cdrom to the tapes, which I've done)? If you can make tar archives to the tape you can, ie using another unix box, not Microsoft Backup :-) > the minimum directory to my partition which I hope to install freebsd on. At > one point I tried to install from the hard drive, but was unsuccessful. Welcome to the club (although that should have gotten somewhere)... > Question: Without the address's resolved prior to installation will an > attempted installation of freebsd screw up the currently installed operating > systems. Is the worst that could happen is that I would have to re-install > anew Win95 and os2? Does the installation of FreeBsd change the internal > addressing system? Does my question reveal my ignorance of computer hardware? It really depends. I have a similar configuration, using Boot Manager between a OS/2, DOS, and FreeBSD partitions. Because I have an extended partition, however, my slice table is at the max of 4, so I could not add another operating system. I think you're OK, just as long as you don't have two DOS primary partitions. Using BM you can install fbsd on a second disk, and have BM recognize it. This is how I am operating right now. > Last question: Have you heard of the software utility called > "System Commander 2.1" by V Communications? Supposedly it assist's the > user in setting up multiple operating systems on one hard drive. Any feed > back will be appreciated, unless you laugh hysterically at my query. Thanxs > in advance Doug MacDonald Someone else mentioned it, I think it's functionally equivalent to the Boot Manager. BM works great, stick with it :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 01:00:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA08121 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08116 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA29529; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:15:18 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601020915.EAA29529@hda.com> Subject: Re: CD interface To: peterb@telerama.lm.com (Peter Berger) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:15:17 -0500 (EST) Cc: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Peter Berger" at Jan 1, 96 10:30:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Note that the xmcd package -WILL NOT WORK ON 2.1 SYSTEMS- as distributed, > because of this. > > Why is scsi_ioctl.c returning EACCESS in this case? Is there a rationale > for it? It just seems like a check without a problem.... The rational is to prevent someone with read-ony access to the device from being able to do things like "allow removal" and "eject the disk". -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 02:34:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA11893 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 02:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11887 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 02:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA29620; Tue, 2 Jan 96 02:34:30 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601021034.AA29620@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: neophyte can't install freebsd To: geckograf@seldon.terminus.com (Douglas MacDonald) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 02:34:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <30E8BC0C.17F5@terminus.com> from "Douglas MacDonald" at Jan 1, 96 09:01:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Last question: Have you heard of the software utility called > "System Commander 2.1" by V Communications? Supposedly it assist's the > user in setting up multiple operating systems on one hard drive. Any feed > back will be appreciated, unless you laugh hysterically at my query. Thanxs No laughing here. I use this exact utilitiy. Works GREAT with FreeBSD, MS-DOS 5.1 and Novell DOS 7. Much nicer interface than booteasy. Just igore the fact that System Commander says the disk type for the FreeBSD disk or slice is "UNKNOWN". It works just fine. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 04:01:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA15230 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA15219 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id HAA18474; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:01:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:01:52 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: "Garrett A. Wollman" cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: ppp from shell, & starting X In-Reply-To: <9601012015.AA12054@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk So, could this be the cause of startx not running after I've run (iij)ppp from a regular shell? ( requiring reboot to run X ) I'll have to readup on routing today in order to better understand your response. Thanks you Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---<---< On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Garrett A. Wollman wrote: > < > > Dec 17 08:59:50 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf054e500) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 18 11:22:24 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf051fe00) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 28 21:12:12 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf04ebc80) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 29 17:06:01 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf053f680) was (0xf04dee00) > > What this message indicates is that there is something wrong with the > routing. Specifically: > > The message occurs when trying to add the route corresponding to a new > interface address. One of the steps in adding the route is to use the > interface address table to figure out which interface the route should > be marked for use with. The message indicates that this calculation > came up with a different answer than the interface that is supposed to > be represented in the first place, so something is inconsistent in > your configuration. > > -GAWollman > > -- > Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... > wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. > Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people > MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 06:31:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA20714 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 06:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (root@pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA20707 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 06:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from didier@localhost) by zapata.omnix.fr.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA06824; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:00 +0100 (MET) From: didier@omnix.fr.org To: Daniel Baker cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Chips & FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199601020044.SAA24121@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The AMD 486-100 is is works fibe with freebsd. but ask for an AMD 486-120 is almost the same price and has a write back cache 14000 dhrystone /s, norton: 270. bogomips 47 -- Didier Derny | My computer is Microsoft Free and Bug Free didier@aida.org | I'm running FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Daniel Baker wrote: > I'm thinking about buying a new machine that has an AMD 486-100 DX4 chip, > and I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems running on an AMD chip, > or if there is anything special needed in the kernel configuration, etc. > > Thanks > > > -- > dbaker@neosoft.com - Daniel Baker - FTP & UseNet Admin - Neosoft, Inc. > Any opinions expressed are mine. > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 07:15:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA21960 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc20.ncu.edu.tw (sparc20.cc.ncu.edu.tw [140.115.17.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA21953 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc18.ncu.edu.tw by sparc20.ncu.edu.tw (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06991; Tue, 2 Jan 96 23:15:18 CST From: u351925@sparc20.ncu.edu.tw (PC Artist) Message-Id: <9601021515.AA06991@sparc20.ncu.edu.tw> Subject: Boot failure To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:15:55 +0800 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 1.00] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got boot.flp of FreeBSD 2.1.0 RELEASE. After I use rawrite to make the installation disk, I reboot the system. And it hangs without printing any message. But I can boot with it on other machine. I reviewed the compatibility list, and found almost of them are compatible: 1. Adaptec AHA-1542CF SCSI card.(1 SCSI disk) (0x330,IRQ 11,DMA 5) 2. Normal I/O card (IDE,FDC,2S1P) (all default settings) 3. Promise EIDE Max (secondary, IRQ 15) 4. Creative Sound-Blaster pro, DSP version 3.1 (0x220,IRQ 5, DMA 1) 5. NE2000 compatible card. (0x300,IRQ 10) 6. ISA ET4000AX video card. Though computer hangs, the floppy drive is still light-up. I've installed Linux, and it can boot and install normally. Can you help me what the problem is and how to solve? Thank you! -- [-]===============================My profile============================[v][^] | ===^=== | York Wu, Dept of CS & IE, NCU (¤¤ĽĄ¸ę¤u˘ˇ˘łŻĹ) | | ( ^ O ^ ) | E-mail address: u351925@sparc10.ncu.edu.tw | | //|>0<|\\ | yorkwu@csie.ncu.edu.tw | | ĽŐľNłšł˝! Ź´ŻNłšł˝! | (§ÖŚş¤FÁŮŚł¤ßąĄťĄŻş¸Ü!?) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 07:30:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA22866 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA22861 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id KAA14725; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id KAA02371; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:30:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@mocha.eng.umd.edu To: Terry Rossi cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hangs after ifconfig on boot In-Reply-To: <199601020647.BAA00531@picspc01.pics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Terry Rossi wrote: > I have an increasingly more frequently problem with 2.1R hanging > during system boot-up. Right after the boot-up shows me the > ifconfig information for my ethernet device "ed1" it hangs > until I hit -C. Then for all of the network deamons > I have to also hit -c to get to a login prompt. > > After I login, I notice that the default route is not set and > I cannot ping localhost. After I add "route add default myrouter" I > can ping the world, but I still cannot ping "localhost" > > Any networking quru's want to venture a quess here. I don't > think it is a configuration issue, as nothing has changed (famous > last words)... At a guess, I would say that your machine isn't being able to resolve addresses correctly. Is your /etc/resolv.conf showing a good address for a nameserver? Actually, I guess you ought to have two addresses for a nameserver here. > > TIA Terry > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Terry Rossi tpr@pics.com Data: 609/753-2540 > Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com > 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 07:58:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA24763 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:58:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA24756 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-13.net7a.io.org [204.92.48.13]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01471; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:57:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:57:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199601021557.KAA01471@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Timothy C. Brown" From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 11:45 AM 12/30/95 -0600, you wrote: >What COM port is your modem on? Does it work alright under DOS or any I have it on COM2 (/dev/cuaa1) >other operating systems (or do you use any other operating systems?) Works fine under DOS. Works fine using cu, tip, and pppd under FreeBSD 2.1.0. -- Stephen > >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > >> Barry, >> >> Thanks for the files. These seem to match what I have, but all of the >> settings (except for device) are elementary if ijppp cannot talk to my >> modem. It may seem like a 'small' problem, but without communications with >> the modem, I am going nowhere fast.... :-(( >> >> tip and cu have no problems communicating with the modem...:-(( >> >> -- Stephen >> >> At 10:17 AM 12/30/95 -0500, you wrote: >> >This may not be of any use, but I'm including it anyway. I just >> >start ppp as root, 'dial panix', then switch to the vc's for the >> >other applications; finger, ftp, gopher.... I'm not sure as to why >> >your ppp program is not talking to your modem. Thats a small mystery. >> >I'm including portions of my ppp files. Hope it helps. >> > >> >Barry Masterson >> >jbarrm@panix.com >> > >> >>--->--->--->--->---> >> > FreeBSD 2.1.0 >> ><---<---<---<---<---< >> > >> >################################################################# >> ># >> ># PPP Sample Configuration File >> ># >> ># Written by Toshiharu OHNO >> ># >> ># $Id: ppp.conf.sample,v 1.3 1995/04/22 17:14:21 amurai Exp $ >> ># >> >################################################################# >> ># >> ># Default setup. Executed always when PPP is invoked. >> ># >> >default: >> > set device /dev/cuaa1 >> > set speed 38400 >> > set timeout 120 >> > set debug >> > disable lqr >> > deny lqr >> > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK >> \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" >> ># >> ># >> >#simplesite: >> >panix: >> > set phone 7414455 >> > set login "TIMEOUT 10 ease?-\\r-ease? ppp ame: jbarrm word: password" >> > set ifaddr 166.84.200.109 198.7.0.124 >> > add 0 255.255.255.0 198.7.0.124 >> > >> > >> >######################################################################### >> ># >> ># Example of ppp.linkup file >> >## >> ># $Id: ppp.linkup.sample,v 1.1.1.1 1995/01/31 06:24:33 amurai Exp $ >> ># >> >######################################################################### >> ># >> >iij-demand: >> > delete ALL >> > add 0 0 HISADDR >> ># >> ># Otherwide, simply add peer as default gateway. >> ># >> >#MYADDR: >> >166.84.200.109: >> > add 0 0 HISADDR >> > >> > >> >################################################## >> ># Sysname Secret Key Peer's IP address >> ># >> ># $Id: ppp.secret.sample,v 1.2 1995/02/26 12:16:37 amurai Exp $ >> ># >> >################################################## >> >#oscar OurSecretKey 192.244.184.34/24 >> >#BigBird X4dWg9327 192.244.184.33/32 >> >#tama localPasswdForControl >> >panix passwd >> > >> > >> > >> >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: >> > >> >> I am trying to get ijppp (user ppp) to work, but I am running into one >> >> problem after another. >> >> >> >> I have taken the advice given to me lately concerning my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf >> >> file. This seems to setup my modem, etc. properly since the 'show modem' >> >> command within ijppp displays the expected results. >> >> >> >> The problem, however, is that ijppp cannot seem to talk to my modem. >> >> >> >> The modem is connected to /dev/cuaa1. I can use 'tip' to connect to the >> >> modem, and dial out. >> >> >> >> When I try to use the 'term' command from within ijppp, I get no response >> >> from the modem. The RD/SD lights on my modem do not flash. I get the same >> >> response if I use the 'dial' command from within ijppp (after starting the >> >> program with an ISP name found in my ppp.conf file. >> >> >> >> BTW, when I use the 'term' or 'dial' command to access the modem using >> >> /dev/cuaa1, a 'LCK..cuaa1' file is created in '/var/spool/lock'. >> >> >> >> Any ideas?? >> >> >> >> Thanks -- Stephen >> >> ______________________________ >> >> Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org >> >> >> > >> ______________________________ >> Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org >> > ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 08:35:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA26525 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mispwoso.nosc.mil (mispwoso.nosc.mil [198.253.27.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA26519 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from huck@localhost) by mispwoso.nosc.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA07612 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:35:21 -0500 From: Craig Huckabee Message-Id: <199601021635.LAA07612@mispwoso.nosc.mil> Subject: More pty questions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:35:21 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Happy New Year everyone, I'm still looking for help with the correct configuration of my pty's. My main questions are : 1) The kernel config has a line like : pseudo-device pty 16 #Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 64 what if I want to use 256? I decided to experiment and I made 160 pty devices (using /dev/MAKEDEV pty{0,1,2,3,4}) and added the appropriate entries to /etc/ttys. I restarted init and tried to use the new ptys (I have an expect script that kicks off a bunch of outgoing telnet sessions) - it failed after 14. So I made a new kernel with 'pseudo-device pty 160', and 'config' made a pty.h file that contained : #define NPTY 1606 I went ahead and made the new kernel, and installed it - it runs and I am now able to use all of my pty entries. So far, so good. But I am concerned about the weird pty.h file and I'm wondering about the comment in the kernel config file - what is the 64 limit? BTW, this same comment is made in the FreeBSD Handbook section on the pseudo-device 'pty'. What am I doing wrong here? 2) The MAKEDEV script has the following comment : # This still leaves [tuTU]. Do I just have to add the t,u,T,U pieces to the script to use these ptys or is the support for these 'extra' pty devices in the code ? I hope these questions aren't too stupid, but can anyone help me see the light? Thanks, Craig huck@nosc.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 08:40:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA26751 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA26708 Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-1.net7c.io.org [204.92.50.1]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA07541; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:39:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:39:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199601021639.LAA07541@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 06:25 AM 1/2/96 -0500, you wrote: > here's how you can cheat :) > > take a look at /etc/rc.serial. the stty above works, but when >the process ends, /dev/cuaa1 is reset. you need to diddle /dev/cuaia1 >(that initial settings) leave the /dev/cuala1 alone (lock settings) so >the modem and dialer can diddle as they wish. (man 4 sio explains all >the ins and outs) I have made the changes to the initial state using rc.serial as you suggested so that only /dev/cuaia1 is affected. This had the desired affect on /dev/cuaa1, so now when I check the state using stty -a ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:05:23 -0800 (PST) From: ptroot@uswest.com Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26432 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:05:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA03209 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:13:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07801; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:10 -0600 Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA00645; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:10 -0600 Message-Id: <9601021705.AA00645@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Three problems with FreeBSD 2.1 (fwd) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:09 -0600 (CST) X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I sent this to freebsd-bugs but then after reading the mailing-list list more closely, figured it belonged here. Paul. > Hi, > I just installed FreeBSD 2.1 and am having a few problems: > > First my configuration: > DX2/50 with ISA MB > 20 Meg Ram > 1 1 gig SCSI > 1 100 meg SCSI > Cirrus SVGA GD542x > Adaptec 1542B > Logitec 3-button bus mouse > Sound Blaster 16 > SMC elite 8013 > CTX CVP-5468A 14in SVGA non-interlaced > > The disks are laid out as follows > 1 Gig > ----- > 1 - 200 Meg for DOS > 2 - 800 Meg for FreeBSD > / 750 Meg > swap 500 Meg > > I keep everything in one partition to easy backups and > optimally use disk space. > > I've built a custom kernel with only what I need, and everything > shows up fine, with no conflicts. Though I'm a little concerned with > the port of the SB and the mouse. > > The SB 16 is set to port 0x220 and the mouse is (unmovable) at 0x23c. > > 1) When I halt/reboot/shutdown the machine, it tries to > sync but after a line full of 1 1 1 1 1 it says > giving up. then on reboot it says / was not properly unmounted. > > Could it be that the partition goes past 1024 cylinders? > > 2) X won't work. > I can only start it as root, though the device is 666. I > tried this with both the sco and the vt console. (I built both) > > There is a 1 inch border on all sides. I don't have enough > screen to let that happen. > > The mouse runs to 0 0 and then won't move from it, the > first time you touch the mouse. This is the mse0 driver. > > > Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks, > Paul. > > -- > Paul T. Root E/Mail: ptroot@uswest.com > 200 S. 5th St. Suite 1100 PAG: +1 (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7370 > Minneapolis, MN 55402 WRK: +1 (612) 663-1979 > NIC: PTR FAX: +1 (612) 663-8030 > > -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Did you hear about the Polish parachute? --opens on impact. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 09:19:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA28602 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA28582 Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning (tip-mp9-ncs-6.Stanford.EDU [36.173.0.165]) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA03314; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:19:14 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:19:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bora Akyol X-Sender: bora@lightning To: Michael Smith cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? V.2 In-Reply-To: <199601020618.QAA03783@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > Bora Akyol stands accused of saying: > > I already solved this problem. I first installed OS-BS beta version from > > the CDROM and then hard wired the SCSI drive to be sd2 on the kernel, > > modified the fstab and everything is fine. > > Not sure I follow, but hey, that's nothing new 8) > > > Not a big problem, but in my opinion, LINUX booting process is ten times > > better. > > Care to tell us about how it works? We're always happy to improve... OK, Here is how the Linux boot loader works (I did not write so I am giving you only a functional description, you can check out the details at www.linux.org under Howto section under LILO. Linux uses a boot loader called LILO. LILO may use the MBR. It uses a file callled /etc/lilo.conf. In this file you specify which image to boot from where and it also uses a map of the disk drives. You run lilo, it installs the boot loader then you are ready to go. In FREEBSD , as far as I know there is no easy way to install a boot loader from FreeBSD itself, or at least I could not find it. Moreover the Booteasy program is not exactly configurable and it can not boot from a SCSI disk when IDE is present. Now I found this program called os-bs on the Walnut Creek CDROM and that was able to boot from a SCSI disk provided that the SCSI disk is visble from DOS at the initial installation. The only bummer with this set up was the fact that the bootstrap code kept on referring to the scsi drive as sd(2,a) which was clearly wrong. It should have been hd(2,a) the third hard drive or sd(0,a). IN either case to go around this I hard wired the scsi drive to be sd2 on the kernel configuration file, re compiled the kernel and there we go. Another thing that is missing from the FreeBSd project is the lack of documentation. I would be tempted to start a set of HOWTO's just like the Linux project. Maybe that will help the users. The FAQ and the Handbook are kind of weak for specific information although they do provide a great overview. Well this it. Bora From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 09:40:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA29798 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from uu10.psi.com (uu10.psi.com [38.8.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29789 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from synrome.com by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA04091 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:30:46 -0500 Message-Id: <9601021730.AA04091@uu10.psi.com> Date: 2 Jan 1996 12:31:11 -0400 From: "Rogers, Bradley" Subject: FreeBSD and NT To: "FreeBSD_Questions" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Four questions: 1) Can FreeBSD and Windows NT 3.51 reside on the same machine? 2) If so, are there restrictions on various versions, or do they all work? 3) If so, should I be using the FreeBSD boot manager, or the NT boot manager? 4) If so, does FreeBSD have any ability to mount NTFS filesystems? When I subscribed to this list several months ago I seem to recall seeing some discussion of these questions. Unfortunately I don't remember the responses. Thanks! Brad Rogers Synectics Corporation rogersb@synrome.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 09:48:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00263 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from picspc01.pics.com ([192.135.189.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00255 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.135.189.21] (picsnt01.pics.com [192.135.189.21]) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA10805; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:46:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199601021746.MAA10805@picspc01.pics.com> To: Chuck Robey Subject: Re: Hangs after ifconfig on boot Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 12:44:08 -0500 From: Terry Rossi X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 CC: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -- [ From: Terry Rossi * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Tuesday, 02-Jan-96 10:30 AM From: Chuck Robey \ Internet: (chuckr@glue.umd.edu) To: Terry Rossi \ Internet: (tpr@picspc01.pics.com) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG \ Internet: (questions@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: Hangs after ifconfig on boot On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Terry Rossi wrote: > I have an increasingly more frequently problem with 2.1R hanging > during system boot-up. Right after the boot-up shows me the > ifconfig information for my ethernet device "ed1" it hangs > until I hit -C. Then for all of the network deamons > I have to also hit -c to get to a login prompt. > > After I login, I notice that the default route is not set and > I cannot ping localhost. After I add "route add default myrouter" I > can ping the world, but I still cannot ping "localhost" > > Any networking quru's want to venture a quess here. I don't > think it is a configuration issue, as nothing has changed (famous > last words)... At a guess, I would say that your machine isn't being able to resolve addresses correctly. Is your /etc/resolv.conf showing a good address for a nameserver? Actually, I guess you ought to have two addresses for a nameserver here. -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- The resolv.conf appears to be correct, again it hasn't changed. domain pics.com nameserver 192.135.189.20 nameserver 192.135.189.10 BTW: The machine having the problem is 192.135.189.20 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 10:43:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA02707 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-13.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02702 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00409; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:47:30 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:47:29 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( In-Reply-To: <199512311717.MAA22789@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > Donald, > [...] Ok, I think I got it. (I hope...) It's that bit about the CRTSCTS and CLOCAL that got me... Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but you have a 1200 baud modem, right? Most 1200 bauders (at least the one I used to own) don't do RTS/CTS (i.e. hardware) handshaking, no? I just checked, and it seems that iij-ppp automagically sets crtscts on your port. This is not a good thing. I grepped around in the ppp sources, and sure enough, it does set (and require) crtscts to be used. I don't know how to change this, so you're probably stuck for now. You mentioned that you'd be getting a Hayes 28.8 (? -- anyways, a high-speed modem of some kind) soon. This should solve your problem, since all high speed modems that I know of, support crtscts (and any that don't should immediately be thrown away). From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 10:45:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA02885 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-13.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02877 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00421; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:49:35 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Stephen Couchman , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > [...my solution...] To further elaborate, when you used tip and cu to access your modem, it worked, because AFAIK tip/cu don't indiscriminately set crtscts on the port they're accessing. In fact, most programs don't. This is why /etc/rc.serial exists, so that default parameters for each serial port can be set. If you had a high speed modem and tried using it with tip/cu, CRTSCTS would not be enabled, and because the modems weren't handshaking, you'd end up with a lot of lost data and other nastiness due to the high modem speed. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:06:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA03917 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch-2.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.5.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03912 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from columbia.cs.ubc.ca (binhdo@columbia.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.4.15]) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA15530 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:18 -0800 Received: (binhdo@localhost) by columbia.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA06710 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:16 -0800 From: "Binh Do" Message-Id: <9601021105.ZM6708@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:15 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As I have both Win95 and FreeBSD and as I specified /win95 as a mount partition of FreeBSD I can access Win95 from within FreeBSD. But is there any way to view FreeBSD from within Win95? Thank you for the information. PS. One more question. Can I somehow write to /win95 partition from FreeBSD? I tried to chmod to write but could not? Do I have to specify it during installation? -- Binh Do Department Of Computer Science University Of BC, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:42:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05856 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05848 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id LAA01055; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA20864; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:40:16 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601021940.AA20864@tera.com> Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:40:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: scouch@io.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Jan 2, 96 10:49:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Donald Burr: > > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > > > [...my solution...] > > To further elaborate, when you used tip and cu to access your modem, it > worked, because AFAIK tip/cu don't indiscriminately set crtscts on the > port they're accessing. In fact, most programs don't. This is why > /etc/rc.serial exists, so that default parameters for each serial port > can be set. If you had a high speed modem and tried using it with > tip/cu, CRTSCTS would not be enabled, and because the modems weren't > handshaking, you'd end up with a lot of lost data and other nastiness due > to the high modem speed. > Hmm. Would this explain why my modem frequently hangs when I try user-ppp? In /etc/rc.serial I have, as per the Web handbook: # stty -f /dev/ttyid1 crtscts 115200 stty -f /dev/ttyld1 crtscts stty -f /dev/cuaia1 crtscts 115200 stty -f /dev/cuala1 crtscts at the bottom of the file. Is this correct? Can you explain what this syntax means? gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:44:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06002 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05997 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA12378; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:34:55 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601021934.MAA12378@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver To: eblood@winky.reno.nv.us (Eric Blood) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:34:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512292120.NAA00944@winky.reno.nv.us> from "Eric Blood" at Dec 29, 95 01:20:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What is the NetBSD ccd driver? ConCatenated Disk driver. It takes several drives, and makes them look like one drive. With the devfs code in -current, there is a much cleaner way to implement this sort of thing. It's much more general, as well, so you could use the full implementation to fix the disklabel and OS compatability issues (magically). These are all instances of volume spanning and logical volume management. I don't recommend ccd or striping unless you need it for some serious application that you can't do any other way. You end up with a much lower MTBF on the spanned drives. If you had three drives, your MTBF will be: min(min(MTBF1,MTBF2),MTBF3) --------------------------- 3 Divide the one drive MTBF by the number of drives for identical drives. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:45:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06123 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06113 Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA29677; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:41:46 +1100 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:41:46 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199601021941.GAA29677@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bora@wireless.stanford.edu, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Subject: Re: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? V.2 Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > Not a big problem, but in my opinion, LINUX booting process is ten times >> > better. >> >> Care to tell us about how it works? We're always happy to improve... >OK, >Here is how the Linux boot loader works (I did not write so I am giving you >only a functional description, you can check out the details at www.linux.org >under Howto section under LILO. >Linux uses a boot loader called LILO. LILO may use the MBR. It uses a file >callled /etc/lilo.conf. In this file you specify which image to boot from >where and it also uses a map of the disk drives. You run lilo, it installs LILO is actually an optional boot loader (sort of like booteasy except it handles kernel images too) that is used by many distributions because the loader built into the kernel images is so much _worse_ than FreeBSD's native boot loader. With LILO, you can specify the Linux root device using an arg string (e.g., "root=/dev/hda1") (good) but changing the kernel requires running a utility to set up a map of the blocks used in the kernel (bad). Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:58:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06740 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcb01a.cwi.net (root@dcb01a.cwi.net [205.136.1.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06727 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from acog.com (acog.com [205.136.111.253]) by dcb01a.cwi.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA16387 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:58:16 -0500 Received: by acog.com with Microsoft Mail id <30E9B988@acog.com>; Tue, 02 Jan 96 15:02:32 PST From: Mark Graves To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: FreeBSD 2.1 Post-Install Config Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 14:53:00 PST Message-ID: <30E9B988@acog.com> Encoding: 27 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems with setting up my NIC in FreeBSD 2.1. Forgive my stupidity, I'm an old Linux user... While running /stand/sysinstall I select Configure to do a post-install config of BSD. Next I select Networking to config additional network services. I now want to select Interfaces to Configure additional network interfaces, but nothing happens. I expected to have a screen where I could configure my NE2000, but the screen doesn't change. What am I doing wrong? I have printed out the Oct 30, 95 FreeBSD handbook, and in cruising it haven't found my answer. So please help, or direct me an information source. Thank, Mark Graves American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists PS. Still having problems with your multi-boot program. If I make a floppy to boot from, how do I automatically make it mount hd(1,a)/kernel and NOT fd(1,a)/kernel? Consider changing boot manager to LILO -- I have used that with Linux without any problems for years. Your's continues to generate a BIOS error when I put it on my WD controller. mg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:07:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07101 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07089 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZJ8GHW7KG8WWNVJ@POMONA.EDU> for questions@FreeBSD.Org; Tue, 02 Jan 1996 12:07:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 12:07:16 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Help! My beautiful kernel won't compile! :( To: questions@FreeBSD.Org Message-id: <01HZJ8GHWAEA8WWNVJ@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@FreeBSD.Org" X-VMS-Cc: JSINNOTT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.Org Precedence: bulk First off, I would like to thank everyone involved with the FreeBSD project. This system is GREAT - I love it, and in my opinion (I'm a newbie so nobody flame me please) it feels more professional than Linux. Now with my question. :) I am trying to compile a kernal with support for such things as a PS/2 mouse, SB16, my Adaptec card etc. So, I followed the instructions down to the letter from the FreeBSD handbook. I typed "make depend" - great. I typed "make" and everything was going well until it stopped with these error messages: loading kernel kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment soundcard.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_select' referenced from text segment soundcard.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_init' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_read' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_write' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_open' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_release' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_ioctl' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. Now, I put these three lines in my kernel config file as suggested by the Handbook for my soundblaster 16: controller snd0 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 And I have NO idea what the '_hw_float' might be referring to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Happy New Year! John From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:14:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07478 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from milpitas.adaptec.com (milpitas.adaptec.com [162.62.21.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07469 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from eng.adaptec.com ([162.62.20.6]) by milpitas.adaptec.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07071; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:12:26 PST Received: from yosemite by eng.adaptec.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03337; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:14:50 PST Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:14:50 PST From: tbraun@eng.adaptec.com (Terry Braun x2537) Message-Id: <9601022014.AA03337@eng.adaptec.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: User PPP drops connections Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to use the user ppp to maintain a dedicated connection to PPP server. The connection fails frequently. This is FreeBSD straight from the 2.1.0 CDROM. The problem seems to get worse with the load on the connection (transferring 1 MB requires 6 resets at times). I get messages about SIO buffer overflows. The hardware is a 486-33 with 16 MB and a 16550A serial card attached to a 28.8 modem. I could guess that the CPU is the problem, but doesn't that 16MB count for anything? Thanks for the help. Terry Braun From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:22:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07749 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-04.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07744 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA01251; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:26:15 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:26:15 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: JOHN cc: questions@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: Help! My beautiful kernel won't compile! :( In-Reply-To: <01HZJ8GHWAEA8WWNVJ@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.Org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > And I have NO idea what the '_hw_float' might be referring to. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sounds like you disabled the 'npx0' device in your kernel. This device is REQURED, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A HARDWARE FPU OR NOT. This is because the 'npx0' device is the INTERFACE to the floating point thingie -- whether that be a hardware unit, or a software emulation widget. The proper line to add is: device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:28:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08055 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08050 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14767(2)>; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:27:08 PST Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07329; Tue, 2 Jan 96 15:27:15 EST Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11812; Tue, 2 Jan 96 15:27:10 EST Message-Id: <9601022027.AA11812@gnu.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Michael Smith Cc: magner@blueridge-ef.saic.com (Tony Magner), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Dec 1995 23:00:12 PST." <199512210700.RAA15034@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:27:05 PST From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Tony Magner stands accused of saying: > > F1 . . . BSD > > > > Default: F? > > > > Q: Did I do something wrong during install? What does this msg mean and I how do I rid myself of it? > > > After i installed freebsd, I got booteasy 14 off a simtel cd and tried to install it (it worked before). Following the instruction, the same thing happened...I have a Packard Bell P100 with a 1.2 gigabyte disk...(first 500 Mbyte dos, next 300 meg extended, and then a freebsd slice). I also can boot if I select the active partition in fdisk... Also, fbsdboot has problems (it starts booting, prints a message and then halts [not sure what the message is...] I tried winbsdboot, and it could read the partition (it tells me what I can boot from...) I have no problem booting from a boot disk selecting wd(0,a)/kernel* -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:28:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08148 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08143 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA03964; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:28:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00468; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:18:46 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601021918.UAA00468@mordillo> Subject: Re: AMD Chips & FreeBSD To: dbaker@crash.ops.neosoft.com (Daniel Baker) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:18:45 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601020044.SAA24121@crash.ops.neosoft.com> from "Daniel Baker" at Jan 1, 96 06:44:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Daniel Baker said ? ... > > I'm thinking about buying a new machine that has an AMD 486-100 DX4 chip, > and I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems running on an AMD chip, > or if there is anything special needed in the kernel configuration, etc. > i only had amd chips until now - they all worked great - no problems t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:29:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08173 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08165 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA04881; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:28:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00483; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:20:55 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601021920.UAA00483@mordillo> Subject: Re: More info on install problem To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:20:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: DGY@hillae.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601020056.LAA02566@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jan 2, 96 11:26:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Michael Smith said ? ... > > If I continue on with the installation I get the error that I > > have reported before during the creation of /bin: > > > > on the console session: "panic: bad dir" > > > > and on the 2nd screen: "/mnt: bad dir ino 157 at offset 677: > > mangled entry" > this i get if i have set my cahce to 2-1-1-1 in the bios - if i set it to 3-1-1-1 all works fine (it's a amd 486dx4 100) - maybe it's something like this ? t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:29:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08269 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08258 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA01168; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:28:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00423; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:15:28 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601021915.UAA00423@mordillo> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on 4Mb of RAM To: ranger@server.tversu.ac.ru (Sergey Kachanovsky) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:15:27 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601011712.UAA13880@server.tversu.ac.ru> from "Sergey Kachanovsky" at Jan 1, 96 08:12:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Sergey Kachanovsky said ? ... > > Hi there! > > I want to install FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE or 2.0.5-RELEASE at home, but I have > only 4Mb of RAM on my 386dx/40MHz, and I'd like to know, if FreeBSD will > run on such machine with only 4Mb of RAM. Please tell me, what's the lowest > limit of memory on PC for running FreeBSD. > i think 2.1.0 will _run_ with 4 mbyte but you need a minimum of 5 mbyte to install it - maybe you can borrow it from somethere ? - maybe 2.0.5 will also install with 4 mbyte t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:38:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08867 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08860 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA10084; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:38:29 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601022038.AA10084@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Windows NT and FreeBSD (fwd) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:38:28 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This was posted a while back. I don't know if it works though. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) Forwarded message: >From news.ucdavis.edu!library.ucla.edu!info.ucla.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!statsci.com!news Wed Oct 18 03:54:48 1995 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: news.ucdavis.edu!library.ucla.edu!info.ucla.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!statsci.com!news From: scott@statsci.com (Scott Blachowicz) Subject: Re: Windows NT and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: deng@interport.net's message of 16 Oct 1995 16:05:40 -0400 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: block Message-ID: To: deng@interport.net (Daniel Eng) Lines: 78 Sender: scott@block.statsci.com Reply-To: scott@statsci.com Organization: StatSci div. of MathSoft, Seattle, WA USA X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.6 References: <45uduk$ndn@interport.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:07:50 GMT >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Eng Daniel> I'm using the OS-BS program (beta actually) from the CD-ROM to Me too...have you noticed that if you let it time out, it just hangs? It does for me...kinda annoying. Daniel> Not very elegant, but it works. You end up having to use two Daniel> boot loaders. Ahhhh...but you can boot FreeBSD from the NT boot menu. I recently saw this posting on the questions@freebsd.org list: >> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:05:29 +0100 >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> From: richard@harlequin.co.uk (Richard Brooksby) >> Subject: Booting FreeBSD from the Windows NT Loader >> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org >> Precedence: bulk >> Content-Length: 2482 >> >> I run my PC with Windows 95, Windows NT, and FreeBSD. I had some problems >> with the FreeBSD boot selector and Windows 95, so I started investigating >> other ways to boot. (Has anyone else had problems with Windows 95 and >> booteasy, by the way?) >> >> I discovered that the Windows NT loader can be configured to run other boot >> sectors from files in the DOS partition. The boot loader's INI file >> (usually C:\BOOT.INI) just needs to be edited to point at the file >> containing the sector. >> >> DON'T ATTEMPT THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I think you must be >> ready to edit partition tables by hand using a sector editor before you >> start mucking about with them, in general. I've had to do this on several >> occasions to avoid trashing Windows NT, which is a bit sensitive about >> them. Make backup copies on floppy disks and make sure you have the >> utilities to put them back if things should go wrong. >> >> To boot FreeBSD from the NT loader, copy your existing boot sector for the >> FreeBSD partition to a file on the DOS C: drive. Something like this will >> do the trick: >> >> dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/freebsd.sec bs=512 count=1 >> >> (Change wd0c to sd0c if you boot from a SCSI disk. You could copy the >> appropriate file from /usr/mdec instead, but I'm typing this from memory on >> my Mac and couldn't tell you which ones offhand. Read the manual.) >> >> Then alter the BOOT.INI file on C: so it contains a line like this under >> the "[operating systems]" heading: >> >> c:\freebsd.sec="FreeBSD" >> >> The NT boot loader will then give you FreeBSD as an option. You can make >> it the default by editing the "DEFAULT=" line in BOOT.INI in the obvious >> manner. >> >> You can also add other boot sectors for other systems, although I haven't >> tried it with the Linux LILO boot loader. >> >> Once you have this working, you can restore the original master boot record >> for DOS or Windows 95 use by running "FDISK /MBR" from DOS. You are less >> likely to have trouble with Windows 95, Windows NT, or OS/2 booting and >> partitioning if you keep the default MBR. >> >> I would be interested to hear from anyone else who uses this trick. Please >> send me some mail if you try it, successfully or not. >> >> FYI, I'm running: >> - FreeBSD 2.0 with a locally patched kernel >> - Windows 95 beta (as released on the Microsoft Developer's Network) >> - Windows NT 3.51 retail version >> >> --- >> Richard Brooksby >> Manager & Developer / Memory Management / Symbolic Processing / Harlequin >> +44 1223 873881 (voice) +44 1223 872519 (fax) and it works great for me. -- Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org ----- End of forwarded message from obrien ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:39:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08906 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08900 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA10104; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:39:08 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601022039.AA10104@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Windows NT and FreeBSD (part 2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:39:07 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Another one... -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) Forwarded message: >From news.ucdavis.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!purdue!news.bu.edu!acs.bu.edu!mi Wed Oct 18 03:56:06 1995 Path: news.ucdavis.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!purdue!news.bu.edu!acs.bu.edu!mi From: mi@bu.edu (Mikhail Teterin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Windows NT and FreeBSD Date: 17 Oct 1995 17:59:45 GMT Organization: Boston University Lines: 60 Message-ID: <460quh$q42@news.bu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: acs.bu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Some time ago (Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:29:15 GMT) honorable Steve Moubray, residing at smoubray@dcc.com wrote: |I need to run MS-DOS, Windows NT and FreeBSD on one 4G SCSI drive. |What is the easiest way to get FreeBSD and Windows NT to co-exist? I |installed FreeBSD after Windows NT and even though I selected to leave |the boot record intact, FreeBSD ate it up and I could no longer run |NT. Luckily I made a backup. |When I load one of the operating systems I'm there for a few hours so |I don't really need a quick way to go from one OS to another. I just |need a way that is simple with little risk of problems. Here is a suggestion to try in your case, posted some time ago by a Linux user: >mi@cs.bu.edu (Mikhail Teterin) wrote: >>I'm going to have them both on the same hard-drive. Is there any FAQ? >>Non of the systems is already installed. I am also interesting in the >>file-system co-existance. Or should I only use FAT-fs to share files? >> >They will coexist but you will not be able to use the NT boot manager. >You will have to use the FreeBSD boot manager. Maybe not. I have added my Linux partition to the NT boot menu. So I don't have to use one boot manager for every os I've installed (DOS, Win95, WinNT, Linux). I'll describe the easiest way in short: - write a copy of your FreeBSD's boot sector to a file. It should be the first sector of your FreeBSD boot partiotion. It shouldn't be very difficult at all. I'm using diskedit from Norton Utilities 5.0, but there should be numerous other programs. - This copy will be used to boot FreeBSD. Everytime the boot sector changes, you have to redo the first step. With Linux & lilo this is everytime you change your /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo. (The config information is held in the boot sector; BTW you shouldn't use the partition table for lilo :-) - In the root directory of your NT boot partition the is a hidden and read- only file called boot.ini. Unhide it (and make it read!) and load it into an editor; it's plain ascii. Add a line like C:\boot.bsd="FreeBSD" where the part in front of the equal sign is the filename of the boot sector and the part behind is the Text that shows up in the menu. - Save boot.ini, make it read only and hidden and you're ready!!! My first experiences tried to address the boot sector direct (something like "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)"), but that wasn't succesfull. -- Meik.Langwald@Materna.DE You have new mail. ============================================================================= -mi -- hot-dog apple-pie baseball Chevrolet ----- End of forwarded message from obrien ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:40:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09071 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com [149.174.213.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09060 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:40:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from berend (dd15-016.compuserve.com [199.174.157.16]) by dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA18496.; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:39:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:39:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199601022039.PAA18496@dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com> X-Mailer: NCSA Mosaic/2.0.0 Final Beta (Windows x86) X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org//support.html From: berend@beard.nest.nl (Berend de Boer) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing over ethernet Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, I like to install FreeBSD to a machine with no CD-Rom attached. Another machine running Windows NT has a CD-Rom. In both machines I've an ethernet card. Can I install FreeBSD when I login to the Windows NT machine? I can login to the Windows NT machine as: 1. using Lantastic with SMB support. 2. Some FreeBSD pre-install disk/boot process, and FTP it from the Windows NT machine?? Anyone done this (probably not) but maybe you have any hints. Thanks, Berend. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:44:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09280 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09270 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id PAA20550 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:44:01 -0500 From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id PAA16382 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:53:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199601022053.PAA16382@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:53:22 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject says it all. Some modern flavours of UNIX on PCs use a less that true Bill Joy derived version of vi. Which version if vi does FreeBSD use in 2.1 release? Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network Inc. Domain: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road MaBell: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 747-3185 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:52:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09693 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09686 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA19790; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id PAA09215; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:52:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:51:57 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: Binh Do cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? In-Reply-To: <9601021105.ZM6708@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Binh Do wrote: > As I have both Win95 and FreeBSD and as I specified /win95 as a mount partition > of FreeBSD I can access Win95 from within FreeBSD. But is there any way to view > FreeBSD from within Win95? Thank you for the information. > > PS. One more question. Can I somehow write to /win95 partition from FreeBSD? I > tried to chmod to write but could not? Do I have to specify it during > installation? > Reading from dos partitions seems to be pretty safe, but there is a bug in the msdos filesystem implementation (FreeBSD's implementation) and writing, while it is possible to force it, is a very bad idea. I don't think I'd do it, without an awfully good reason, and a complete backup of the disk involved. > > -- > > Binh Do > Department Of Computer Science > University Of BC, Canada > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:20:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11139 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11134 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA12576; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:12:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601022112.OAA12576@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and NT To: rogersb@synrome.com (Rogers, Bradley) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:12:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9601021730.AA04091@uu10.psi.com> from "Rogers, Bradley" at Jan 2, 96 12:31:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 1) Can FreeBSD and Windows NT 3.51 reside on the same machine? Yes. You will probably want to install NT first. > 2) If so, are there restrictions on various versions, or do they all work? No restrictions that I know of. Newer is better, as a general rule of thumb, however. > 3) If so, should I be using the FreeBSD boot manager, or the NT boot manager? Probably the NT boot manager. You will need to dd off the first 16k of the raw BSD partition (which includes the disklabel) and use that as the BSD boot file. This procedure is archived in the mailing list archives on www.freebsd.org; look for "NT" in the subject line. > 4) If so, does FreeBSD have any ability to mount NTFS filesystems? Yes and no. Yes, there is a read-only NTFS (apparently the author didn't want to bother deciphering the logging mechanism), but it isn't generally available or redistributable at this point. You will have to go to the author's posting on the -hackers list (see the mailing list archives again) for contact information. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:27:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11472 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11464 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA18783; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:27:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:27:24 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601022127.AA18783@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: William Bulley Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? In-Reply-To: <199601022053.PAA16382@ohm.merit.edu> References: <199601022053.PAA16382@ohm.merit.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Subject says it all. Some modern flavours of UNIX on PCs use > a less that true Bill Joy derived version of vi. Which version > if vi does FreeBSD use in 2.1 release? The `vi' that Bill Joy wrote was derived from the source code to the `ed' that belonged (at the time) to Ma Bell. You would have to pay a large amount of money to the current owners of that source code (I think it's still Novell) to buy a source license. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:38:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12434 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12404 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id QAA22292; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:21 -0500 From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id QAA17078; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:46:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199601022146.QAA17078@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett A. Wollman) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:46:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601022127.AA18783@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett A. Wollman" at Jan 2, 96 04:27:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Garrett A. Wollman: > > The `vi' that Bill Joy wrote was derived from the source code to the > `ed' that belonged (at the time) to Ma Bell. You would have to pay a > large amount of money to the current owners of that source code (I > think it's still Novell) to buy a source license. Thanks! So, whose (or which) vi wannabe is part of FreeBSD 2.1? Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network Inc. Domain: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road MaBell: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 747-3185 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:38:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12436 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii1.iii.net (root@iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12402 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id QAA02842; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:03 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199601022137.QAA02842@iii1.iii.net> To: graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de, ranger@server.tversu.ac.ru Subject: Re: FreeBSD on 4Mb of RAM Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >maybe 2.0.5 will also install with 4mbyte I installed 2.0.5 with 4MB of RAM with no problems at all. -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:38:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12496 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12448 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-9.net7d.io.org [204.92.51.9]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA21128; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199601022137.QAA21128@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Donald Burr From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Eureka, it finally works! ;-))) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk First thanks to all (there were many - Johnathan, Donald, Gary, Barry, and others) who helped me on this. The problem was a faulty serial cable. It seems that the cable worked in DOS, with tip and cu, but not iij-ppp. I tried the new cable with my 1200 baud, and it works. I now have the 28.8 Kb modem. At least I learned a lot about ppp and serial comms in general, and met a bunch of interesting folks. Thanks again -- Stephen At 10:49 AM 1/2/96 -0800, you wrote: >On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > >> [...my solution...] > >To further elaborate, when you used tip and cu to access your modem, it >worked, because AFAIK tip/cu don't indiscriminately set crtscts on the >port they're accessing. In fact, most programs don't. This is why >/etc/rc.serial exists, so that default parameters for each serial port >can be set. If you had a high speed modem and tried using it with >tip/cu, CRTSCTS would not be enabled, and because the modems weren't >handshaking, you'd end up with a lot of lost data and other nastiness due >to the high modem speed. > ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:45:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12994 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12975 Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA12678; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:37:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601022137.OAA12678@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Network Card id code To: james@else.net (James FitzGibbon) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:37:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "James FitzGibbon" at Dec 30, 95 03:44:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I've got a system running with FreeBSD that has an unknown PCI ethernet > adapter in it. It's not detected by anything in the GENERIC kernel under > 2.1R or 2.2-current. The card is pretty generic, supporting BNC and > 10BaseT. It has a "Runs with Novell"-type sticker on the main chip. Means it has (at least) an ODI client driver. It *might* have an ODI server driver. You will need to know the vendor/device id to driver mapping to make a driver see it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:48:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13150 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13143 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00232; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:48:38 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:48:37 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Binh Do cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? In-Reply-To: <9601021105.ZM6708@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Binh Do wrote: > As I have both Win95 and FreeBSD and as I specified /win95 as a mount partition > of FreeBSD I can access Win95 from within FreeBSD. But is there any way to view > FreeBSD from within Win95? Thank you for the information. No. Windows 95 does not support the Unix filesystem. > PS. One more question. Can I somehow write to /win95 partition from FreeBSD? I > tried to chmod to write but could not? Do I have to specify it during > installation? That would not be a good idea, since the msdosfs code is so old. Writing runs the risk of corrupting your FAT. Besides, Windows 95 does not like anything messing with the FAT and not the VFAT. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:52:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13416 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13407 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00242; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:52:52 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Graves cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Post-Install Config In-Reply-To: <30E9B988@acog.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Mark Graves wrote: > While running /stand/sysinstall I select Configure to do a post-install > config of BSD. Next I select Networking to config additional network > services. I now want to select Interfaces to Configure additional > network interfaces, but nothing happens. I expected to have a screen > where I could configure my NE2000, but the screen doesn't change. What > am I doing wrong? Don't forget to put a check in the box by hitting , then to configure. If you did a FTP install, then it was configured already. > PS. Still having problems with your multi-boot program. If I make a > floppy to boot from, how do I automatically make it mount hd(1,a)/kernel > and NOT fd(1,a)/kernel? Consider changing boot manager to LILO -- I have > used that with Linux without any problems for years. Your's continues to > generate a BIOS error when I put it on my WD controller. You can try to rewrite the floppy image using a modified boot program. I tried to do that once. I have no idea how to modify the code to change the boot location. I use OS/2's Boot Manager, so when I select that partition, I just have to hit enter to get it to boot. You could use the OS-BS utility, available in the tools/dos directory, for a replacement boot manager. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:54:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13502 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13491 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00249; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:54:44 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:54:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Rogers, Bradley" cc: FreeBSD_Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD and NT In-Reply-To: <9601021730.AA04091@uu10.psi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 2 Jan 1996, Rogers, Bradley wrote: > 1) Can FreeBSD and Windows NT 3.51 reside on the same machine? Certainly. I have OS/2 (close enough to NT :) ), DOS, and FreeBSD working together here. > 2) If so, are there restrictions on various versions, or do they all work? The only restriction is the number of systems. You still only have 4 slices for stuff. > 3) If so, should I be using the FreeBSD boot manager, or the NT boot manager? I don't run NT so I have no idea :) I remember faintly that the NT bm is not that great. OS/2's Boot Manager is superb. > 4) If so, does FreeBSD have any ability to mount NTFS filesystems? No. > When I subscribed to this list several months ago I seem to recall seeing some > discussion of these questions. Unfortunately I don't remember the responses. You can look in the mail archive on www.freebsd.org. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 14:37:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA15949 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15931 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:36:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA107792214; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:36:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199601022236.AA107792214@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA164922212; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:36:52 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: MetaCard 2.0 beta-test release (fwd) To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 96 9:36:52 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Linux version of MetaCard 2.0 (demand-paged ZMAGIC format). I ran the demo and it ran fine to the end as on Linux machine. Maybe someone want to add it to the commercial distribution ? Has anyone tried out demo version of ishmail for Linux ? I can't remember where the ftp site is now, 8-(((( > The first beta-test release of MetaCard 2.0 is now available via > anonymous FTP from ftp.metacard.com:/MetaCard/2.0. This release is > primarily a polished up version of the alphas, but a few new features > have been added since 2.0A2. Among them, a "move" command that does > speed-controlled animations, the ability to send delayed events with > the send command, HTML import/export for fields, and some new visual > effect options. See the README.2.0 file for details, and all new > features are documented in the MetaTalk Reference. > Note that in order to support storage of the new custom properties, > the MetaCard file format has changed. Therefore, you should make > reliable backups of your stacks before you open them with 2.0B1. This > release should be stable, however, so you might consider switching > over to it for primary development rather than just making a cursory > evaluation of it. > Despite recording many downloads of the alpha-test releases, we > received very few bug and feature-request reports. We hope that > during the (hopefully brief) beta process, that you can report > problems and ask questions *as soon as they come up*. > The SPARC, SPARCSVR4, IRIS (Irix 5.3-6.X), HP9K700, RS6000, Linux, > ODT, and Alpha engines have been built for this release. If you want > to run it on one of the other platforms, please email to > support@metacard.com and ask for it. The IntelSVR4, Sun3, DEC, > HP9K300, and 88open engines are scheduled to be built for the final > release. We plan to discontinue the DESQview/X and IRIS4 engines. > You can use your 1.4 Home stack with this release, or use your 1.4 > key to relicense the 2.0 Home stack. This release is time-limited, > and will not be able to edit stacks after Jan 31, 1996. While the > engine will continue to function after that date, it will treat all > Home stacks as being unlicensed and so will not allow saving. > We are now accepting orders for the 2.0 release, which we plan to > release in mid-February. Due to the wealth of new features and > performance improvements, MetaCard is now even more competitive with > professional GUI development, CBT development, and high-end multimedia > tools. We are therefore raising the price of the product accordingly. > The price for a single user license for 2.0 will be $995 > (U.S. dollars), $3600 for a 5 pack, and $5000 for a 10 pack. The > upgrade charge will be the difference between the old and new prices. > To help encourage you to make the transition to 2.0 sooner rather than > later, we are offering a limited-time $100 discount on the upgrade > price (i.e. $400 instead of $500 to upgrade a single user license). > This offer will be in effect from now until 30 days after the 2.0 > release. - - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMOmzfEmThh0X7Um5AQEenwP/U1J6a9TNx7Vq07n9hLo2uA5+mJUE4sSe 5XjlZGRH1x/4YWv+hJ2Qgl6sxP48dbp0FKLG957SRqLR8ZUkixysG2NY4l7Ej0vj 96ETf9qcoXPOQrYApff3SHdmRvy3cd8kpv7m7gAEPgWqfsznPB+bUi2GRSxvtgWR 9iCxyvyc8r4= =FWAs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 14:48:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16717 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16698 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA21361 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id RAA11469; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:47:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:47:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: New mouse Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried to keep this question off this list, but I have been patiently waiting responses from several other sources, and they don't seem to be panning out. I wanted to replace my old Addison trackballs with new ones, because their action was getting quite jerky. I insist on getting a track ball with this geometry: /------------------+---+---+---\ | | | | | | | | | | | --- +---+---+---| | ( ) | | ___ | | | \------------------------------/ Excuse my miserable graphics, but that's the best I can produce. Anyhow, I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. I've tried all the obvious combinations I could define from the XConfig file, but I still couldn't get it to work. I would really like some help. Of course, if someone said "RTFM, you fool" and included a reference to the FM, I would be even happier. Even if it meant buying a book. ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 15:08:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA18295 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncd.com (firewall-user@welch.ncd.com [192.43.160.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18290 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by ncd.com; id PAA14629; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:35:33 -0800 Received: from z-code.z-code.com(192.82.56.21) by welch.ncd.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma014618; Tue, 2 Jan 96 15:35:29 -0800 Received: from zolaris.z-code.com (zolaris.z-code.com [192.82.56.41]) by z-code.z-code.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA02856; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:06:49 -0800 Received: by zolaris.z-code.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26863; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:04:37 -0800 From: "Ulf Zimmermann" Message-Id: <9601021504.ZM26861@zolaris.z-code.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:04:36 -0800 In-Reply-To: William Bulley "Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ??" (Jan 2, 16:46) References: <199601022146.QAA17078@ohm.merit.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) To: William Bulley , wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett A. Wollman) Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Jan 2, 16:46, William Bulley wrote: > Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? > According to Garrett A. Wollman: > > > > The `vi' that Bill Joy wrote was derived from the source code to the > > `ed' that belonged (at the time) to Ma Bell. You would have to pay a > > large amount of money to the current owners of that source code (I > > think it's still Novell) to buy a source license. Nope. It is not Novell anymore. It is SCO (Santa Cruz Operatingsystems) > > Thanks! > > So, whose (or which) vi wannabe is part of FreeBSD 2.1? > > Regards, > > web... > >-- End of excerpt from William Bulley Ulf. -- Ulf Zimmermann, NCD Software, 101 Rowland Way, Suite 300, Novato, CA 94945 phone: 415-899-7941, email: ulf@z-code.ncd.com, phone-home: 510-865-0204 ====================================== FreeBSD 2.1.0 is available now! -------------------------------------- FreeBSD: Turning PCs into Workstations ====================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 15:54:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA21106 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from strider.ibenet.it (root@Strider.Free.IT [194.179.131.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21093 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.7.3/8.6.12) id AAA11516; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:50:23 +0100 (MET) From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199601022350.AAA11516@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:50:22 +0100 (MET) Cc: eblood@winky.reno.nv.us, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199512292314.PAA02874@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Dec 29, 95 03:14:10 pm Reply-To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-NCC-RegID: it.ibenet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello. Quoting from David Greenman (Sat Dec 30 00:14:10 1995): > >What is the NetBSD ccd driver? > > It's the "concatenated disk" driver. It give you the ability to combine > multiple physical disks into one logical volume. What's the benefit as opposed to, say, 5 different mounts? Bye, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 16:40:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA23440 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23433 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA13203; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:30:46 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601030030.RAA13203@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:30:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: binhdo@cs.ubc.ca, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 2, 96 01:48:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > As I have both Win95 and FreeBSD and as I specified /win95 as a > > mount partition of FreeBSD I can access Win95 from within FreeBSD. > > But is there any way to view FreeBSD from within Win95? Thank you > > for the information. > > No. Windows 95 does not support the Unix filesystem. Well. It goes to internal Alpha on the 12th. 8-). But in order to support short file names, the on disk directory structure had to change... 8-(. But the new devfs should allow it to be auto-recognized. 8-). But there's no code to do that yet. 8-(. [ ... ] > Besides, Windows 95 does not like > anything messing with the FAT and not the VFAT. It doesn't bitch too loudly. See "Unauthorized Windows 95" by Schulman. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 17:00:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA24606 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [205.162.141.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24600 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.nightflight (laptop [205.162.141.3]) by nightflight.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA20354 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:05:06 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:05:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199601030105.RAA20354@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Crutcher Subject: @.1 Installation on 2nd SCSI drive Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a Web site using FreeBSD 2.05. I have a 2nd SCSI drive I just installed. I need to keep my site up and running during the change over to v2.1. I plan on getting the 2.1 CD from Walnut Creek to do this. 1. Is it possible to install v2.1 on the 2nd SCSI drive? 2. If so, how would I go about doing this, and then make the switch over. Each drive has a 2.1 GB capacity. Thanks, Gary Crutcher Webmaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com 'Flights throughout the Internet' voice: 619-631-0666 ----------------------------------------------------------------------  From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 17:26:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA26340 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26333 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA04181; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:25:34 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jan 96 11:25:37 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jan 96 11:25:07 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: Carlton Brown Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:25:05 -1000 Subject: Re: OK, so I'm doing something stupid... CC: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <17F80083F3C@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On 29 Dec 95 at 16:35, Carlton Brown wrote: > Ok, I'm trying to get my FreeBSD machine to accept dialup, and I've > gotten the modem to pick up the line. My DTR light is on, and I > can't seem to get my FreeBSD server to respond to the call. Is > there something I still need to do, to tell FreeBSD to look for > incoming calls once the modem picks them up? Maybe this is some > kind of network configuration? I do have a terminal (Windows > Telnet) on the local area network, that FreeBSD seems to accept > connections from, just fine... Help! I must be doing something > incredibly stupid! > > carlton@sierra.net > There's a couple of other things you need to do. Firstly configure the dialup port, and secondly get a getty running on the dialup port. To configure the dialup ( I'll assume it's sio0 that you're using) in your /etc/rc.local put a line like stty -f /dev/ttyid0 crtscts 115200 to configure the serial line. Don't use 115200 unless you have a v34 modem & 16550 UARTs, use something slower, 19200 or 38400. Then you neet to add the getty line to /etc/ttys ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" ansi on secure lastly edit your /etc/gettytab to have an entry like std.115200|115200-baud:\ :np:sp#115200: You can just copy the 9600 baud entry & put in the correct speed. One little hint, ttyid0 is the device you use to configure ttyd0, similarly for dialout devices, cuaia0 is for cuaa0. I'm no unix guru, but my system works, so I hope you can get yours going. Cheers, Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 17:30:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA26489 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii1.iii.net (root@iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26482 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id UAA14774 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:29:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:29:51 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199601030129.UAA14774@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Basic Firewalling? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've got a LAN with real network addresses, and a SLIP connection. Routing isn't working between the two (except on the FreeBSD machine), and I found out that AOL's TCPack (the major thing I need to use) operates on port 5190. Is there anyway I can do something to get connectivity working on port 5190? Thanks in advance, -Justyin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 18:48:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29713 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 18:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from neptune.pristine.com.tw ([192.72.150.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29706 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 18:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from team_fbf@localhost) by neptune.pristine.com.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA02850 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:47:31 GMT From: ywliu Message-Id: <199601031047.KAA02850@neptune.pristine.com.tw> Subject: Majordomo question : where to find it ? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:47:31 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Where can I find a workable version of Majordomo, like the one freebsd.org is using ? I have tried to use 1.93 under 2.05R, but a lot of strange things did occur so I have to give it up. Yen-Wei Liu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:00:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00196 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA00190 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA13447; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:50:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601030250.TAA13447@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:50:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: davidg@root.com, eblood@winky.reno.nv.us, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601022350.AAA11516@strider.ibenet.it> from "Piero Serini" at Jan 3, 96 00:50:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Quoting from David Greenman (Sat Dec 30 00:14:10 1995): > > >What is the NetBSD ccd driver? > > > > It's the "concatenated disk" driver. It give you the ability to combine > > multiple physical disks into one logical volume. > > What's the benefit as opposed to, say, 5 different mounts? If you are silly enough to gate the news group "junk", it lets you fit all 220M/day onto two 150M drives mounted on the directory "junk". Basically its for things that don't split well at a mount point, like large dirs that can't be fixed, or big files that wouldn't normally fit on your drive. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:02:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00253 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA00244 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA13456; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:53:10 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601030253.TAA13456@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: New mouse To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:53:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jan 2, 96 05:47:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I tried to keep this question off this list, but I have been patiently > waiting responses from several other sources, and they don't seem to be > panning out. I wanted to replace my old Addison trackballs with new > ones, because their action was getting quite jerky. I insist on getting > a track ball with this geometry: > > /------------------+---+---+---\ > | | | | | > | | | | | > | --- +---+---+---| > | ( ) | > | ___ | > | | > \------------------------------/ > Excuse my miserable graphics, but that's the best I can produce. Anyhow, > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. I've > tried all the obvious combinations I could define from the XConfig file, > but I still couldn't get it to work. I would really like some help. > > Of course, if someone said "RTFM, you fool" and included a reference to > the FM, I would be even happier. Even if it meant buying a book. Well, other than cleaning your old trackball, you probably want to hold down the left mouse button while you are powering on and/or when you start the X server. Many of these sill "MS compatible" mice with three buttons will switch modes based on the left button being down at power on. If it's really old, there's probably a small switch somewhere. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:09:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00503 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00498 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZJNGCRC4G8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Jan 1996 19:09:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 19:09:07 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: How to change default shell? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZJNGCT0EA8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly editing the /etc/passwd file. But that did not work, so I then tried editing the /etc/master.passwd file as well (should this be done?) I just want to have bash as the default shell rather than csh, but even with these fields changed, csh remains the default. Also, what is the purpose of the master.passwd file? Is it just to implement password shadowing? Thanks John From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:17:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00864 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00853 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id TAA03549 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA10119; Tue, 2 Jan 96 19:16:18 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601030316.AA10119@tera.com> Subject: Cnews To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:16:31 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody gotten cnews to run? I'm running into major problems.... It build finally, but the regression tests fail because ctime -u matches ctime -i. : ctime test "`./ctime -u 756362361`" = "Mon Dec 20 04:39:21 1993" test "`./ctime -i 756362361`" = "Mon, 20 Dec 1993 04:39:21 GMT" : getabsdate test "`./getabsdate 'Mon Dec 20 04:39:21 GMT 1993'`" = "756362361" Memory fault *** Error code 1 Something may be wrong with my `date' settings, or... ?? Any ideas, people? Thanks much. gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:43:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA03268 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03262 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:43:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA03814; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:43:38 -0500 Message-Id: <30E1EEF3.3859@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:12:19 -0800 From: Henry David X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: I really need help X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:43:33 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: John Fieber ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I basically got FreeBSD to help me to compile all of these uncompilable programs, that I couldn' compile in Windows95/DOS. Well I just found out that I can't transfer my files from my MS-DOS drive to my FreeBSD drive and this puts me a bit of a bind. Also my cdrom, nor my disk drives work(aren't recognized, but are compatible) with FreeBSD. And because of this it is very hard to do this I tried to get the stuff on my modem, but I can't get netscape off the CD and I can't even dialup my ISP with my modem, so if there is any way, except with the handbook (which is very confusing), that you can help me, please send me some e-mail at 'melco@melcowire.com'. -- Thank You Matt David From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 20:32:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA07796 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM ([198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07767 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA03604; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:03:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:03:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( In-Reply-To: <199601021639.LAA07541@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Stephen Couchman wrote: > I have made the changes to the initial state using rc.serial as you > suggested so that only /dev/cuaia1 is affected. This had the desired affect > on /dev/cuaa1, so now when I check the state using stty -a crtscts and clocal are set. cool, one step forward ;) > Unfortunately, this had no effect on iij-ppp, in term mode. I still get no > characters received/sent by/from the modem. One note however, when I issue > the term command, the TR light on the modem comes on, indicating that some > sort of signal is being received. TR?? as in DTR ?? what kind of modem again please?? can you send the setup information (available with ati4 or at&v or some such depend on maker) jmb Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 20:36:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08135 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08127 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00498; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:36:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:36:55 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New mouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. The Microsoft mouse spec does not support the middle button. The logitech spec does, however. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 20:44:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08737 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08731 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00514; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:45:03 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:45:03 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux still not working :( Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello All! Running 2.1-R on a p90, 16mb RAM, X 3.1.2s. After grabbing fresh kernel source from ftp.cdrom.com and recompiling with options LINUX_COMPAT options COMPAT_LINUX xdoom still errors with 'bus error'. I guess I need to be held by the hand on this one :-) So, if someone would describe the procedure from square one that would be most helpful. Here is my kernel config for reference: # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # GENERIC,v 1.45.2.3 1995/06/05 21:50:41 jkh Exp # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" ident GDI maxusers 10 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM #System V support options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options XSERVER options "MAXCONS=16" options LINUX_COMPAT options COMPAT_LINUX config kernel root on wd1 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 #controller ncr0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr #controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr #controller scbus0 #device sd0 #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port ? bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 #options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device lpt2 at isa? port? tty # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 #device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 tty Additional info provided by request. AdvTHANKSance! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major PS: What is the program that gives the executable info, ie the 'ZMAGIC demand-paged' bit? :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 20:47:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08891 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08885 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00526; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:48:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:48:07 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: JOHN cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to change default shell? In-Reply-To: <01HZJNGCT0EA8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly editing the > /etc/passwd file. But that did not work, so I then tried editing the > /etc/master.passwd file as well (should this be done?) I just want to have > bash as the default shell rather than csh, but even with these fields changed, > csh remains the default. Either: . login as the user and run `chsh' (or as root: `chsh ') OR . su to root, run `vipw' and change the last field accordingly. Editing the passwd file requires special lock files and such, and vipw and chsh make the proper changes. Might want to change options in the `adduser' script as well. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:17:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA11890 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11883 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id AAA06585; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:17:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:17:28 -0500 (EST) From: Geoffrey Deasey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ok, I booted it with the -c so I could change the irq and iomem settings for my smc network card which the kernel put at irq5 (my soundblaster is their) and iomem 0xe0000 the kernel put it at 0xd8000. I changed the settings and exited the menu and got a message about the wrong bucket and a kernel panic. Did I do this the wrong way ? I even tryed disabling the card (ed0) in the menu and then changing it and enabling it (same result). I was also doing a cd /stand and ./sysinstall to add packages and noticed that there are a few that are in the menus and not on ftp.freebsd.org ? Thanks, P.S. FreeBSD looks real nice and not that hard to install I hope the development group keeps up the good work o o \__/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ FreeBSD / Linux | Netpath, Inc & Stratonet, Inc. | ------------------+ 2466 Corporation Parkway | Opinions are mine | Burlington, NC 27215 910-226-0425 | not theirs +----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:19:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12003 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11992 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA04568; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:17:24 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jan 96 15:17:25 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jan 96 15:17:12 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: ywliu , questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:17:10 -1000 Subject: Re: Majordomo question : where to find it ? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <1835ECE64C7@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On 3 Jan 96 at 10:47, ywliu wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I find a workable version of Majordomo, like the one > freebsd.org is using ? I have tried to use 1.93 under 2.05R, but a > lot of strange things did occur so I have to give it up. > > Yen-Wei Liu I got 1.93 to work under 2.0.5, but it took a while. Mainly because I didn't read & follow the instructions & the FAQ exactly. Get the FAQ from the web, make sure you have a high enough version of perl ( 5.002 I think ), be carefull about the user, group & file permissions Cheers, Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:34:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13492 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from onyx.southwind.net (root@onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13441 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from Ucomplet@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id XAA26498; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:11:15 -0600 Received: (from goerzenj@localhost) by complete.org (8.7.2/8.7.2) id WAA00242; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:55:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:55:19 -0600 (CST) From: John Goerzen To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: User-level and administrative diff's between BSDi and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I may be wrong, but I thought that Taylor UUCP could be configured (or compiled) to use HDB configs. On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Donald Burr wrote: > I just picked up the latest edition of "UNIX System Administration > Handbook" (an EXCELLENT reference text, btw; I'll be sending highest > kudos to the authors). > > While it doesn't go into details about any of the Free*BSD's nor Linux, > it DOES go into details of a lot of the workstation OS's, including HPUX, > Solaris, ... as well as BSDi on 80x86's. > > So, my question is: how "similar" or "dissimilar" is BSDi from FreeBSD? > in terms of the user interface, system admin tools, programming > environment, etc.? (i.e. are most of the user-land commands available in > FreeBSD, available on BSDi and do they work similarly? And > vice-versa)... well, you get the idea. > > I know there'll be differences, and I'm expecting that: f.e. I know that > BSDi uses its own UUCP derived from the original BSD UUCP, with its own > enhancements, while FreeBSD uses Taylor UUCP with the weird Taylor-style > config files (I much prefer standard HDB configs, but that's another > story). So I'm not expecting them to be THE SAME. > > I just figured that BSDi, since both it and FreeBSD were based on the > 4.4-lite (please correct me if I'm wrong on this), that they should be, > in large part, fairly similar. Of course, I've never used BSDi, so I > can't say this with conviction. That's why I'm asking you folks :) > > Please let me know. Thanks! > > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:37:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13905 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13900 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:37:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA03727; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:36:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:36:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: JOHN cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to change default shell? In-Reply-To: <01HZJNGCT0EA8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly editing the > /etc/passwd file. But that did not work, so I then tried editing the > /etc/master.passwd file as well (should this be done?) I just want to have > bash as the default shell rather than csh, but even with these fields changed, > csh remains the default. two steps are required. 1. as root use vipw, a special version of vi, to edit the passwd file find the entry for the user and replace /bin/csh with the path to bash on your system. (probably /usr/local/bin/bash) 2. edit /etc/shells. add a line containing the path to bash on your system. (this lets a bash user ftp into the machine) > Also, what is the purpose of the master.passwd file? Is it just to implement > password shadowing? yes. passwd shadowing Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:42:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14142 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14137 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA03737; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:41:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:41:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: ywliu cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Majordomo question : where to find it ? In-Reply-To: <199601031047.KAA02850@neptune.pristine.com.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, ywliu wrote: > Where can I find a workable version of Majordomo, like the one freebsd.org > is using ? I have tried to use 1.93 under 2.05R, but a lot of strange > things did occur so I have to give it up. ftp://kryten.atinc.com/pub/majordomo/majordomo-1.92.tar.gz Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA15067 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:52:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15058 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA02744; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:52:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA00247; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:59:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601030559.VAA00247@corbin.Root.COM> To: Geoffrey Deasey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 96 00:17:28 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 21:59:16 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >ok, I booted it with the -c so I could change the irq and iomem settings >for my smc network card which the kernel put at irq5 (my soundblaster is >their) and iomem 0xe0000 the kernel put it at 0xd8000. I changed the >settings and exited the menu and got a message about the wrong bucket and >a kernel panic. Ugh. Obviously it should do that. I think the wrong bucket panic only happens when an internal inconsistency is detected. Are you running with a customized kernel (one you built yourself)? Did you specify the address properly in hex (0xe0000), or could it be that you just typed "e0000"? You might also look at the result after you changed it (using the ls command) and make sure that it properly set. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 22:00:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA15859 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15854 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA02759; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:00:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA00282; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:08:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601030608.WAA00282@corbin.Root.COM> To: Geoffrey Deasey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jan 96 21:59:16 PST." <199601030559.VAA00247@corbin.Root.COM> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 22:08:23 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>ok, I booted it with the -c so I could change the irq and iomem settings >>for my smc network card which the kernel put at irq5 (my soundblaster is >>their) and iomem 0xe0000 the kernel put it at 0xd8000. I changed the >>settings and exited the menu and got a message about the wrong bucket and >>a kernel panic. > > Ugh. Obviously it should do that. I think the wrong bucket panic only ^^^^^^ "shouldn't" ...I hate it when that happens. :-) -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 23:14:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA19049 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19043 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from cybereye.net6d.io.org (cybereye.net6d.io.org [204.92.7.117]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA01322 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 02:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: <30EA56EF.1573@io.org> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 02:14:07 -0800 From: Jason Antheunis Organization: McKAntheunis Assoc. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: dual boot FreeBSD and Win95 X-URL: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am wondering if I can dual boot FreeBSD and Win95 from the same harddrive? Am I able to use a boot manager or how should I go about this. Any help would be appresiated. I have already ordered FreeBSD from CDROM.COM and so I would like to use both. Please help. Jason From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 00:06:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA20715 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:06:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc.jyu.fi (root@cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20702 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.39]) by cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA26934; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:05:30 +0200 (EET) X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:05:35 +0300 To: didier@omnix.fr.org, hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@cc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: RAID Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 13:40 2.1.96, didier@omnix.fr.org wrote: >is there any RAID 5 or 7 system available for FreeBSD I think there are several RAID 5 systems available for FreeBSD and for any system using SCSI disks. Some people here in Finland use Mylex (sp?) RAID5 + Linux NFS server. It is connected using Fast Wide SCSI. So if you can use AHA 2940W or 3940W you can use it (?). I think FreeBSD is supporting 2940W and 3940W (is it? I am using 2940). The only problem I can see is the huge partition it defines if you use 4G disks you will have 4*4G (5*4G?) partition. There has been some problems even in 4G partitions in FreeBSD (with dump at least). I am very interested in RAID + FreeBSD + NFS systems. Please write if you have some info about them. Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 00:39:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA22150 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from itp.ac.ru (itp.ac.ru [193.233.32.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA22119 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (ks@localhost) by itp.ac.ru (8.6.11/8.6.5) id LAA07898 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:40:23 +0300 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:40:23 +0300 From: "Sergey S. Kosyakov" Message-Id: <199601030840.LAA07898@itp.ac.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: System hangs with S3-Trio64 and networking. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have Pentium-120 with 32 MB RAM and Diamond Stealth-64 2 MB DRAM (S3-Trio64) PCI card. When I start ping from xterm %25 or more pings loss. When I start some network applications under X (like ftp or netscape) system hangs. I tried "de" (Digital 21041 PCI Ethernet card) and "ed" (SMC8216) - the situation is the same. Can somebody help me to fix this problem ? Sergey. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 01:52:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA25968 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 01:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip2.uplift.fr (af@ip2.uplift.fr [194.51.20.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25957 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 01:51:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from af@localhost) by ip2.uplift.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA19561; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:53:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:53:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199601030953.KAA19561@ip2.uplift.fr> From: Alain Forcioli To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe freebsd-questions From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 03:05:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA29632 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 03:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper119225.iafrica.com [196.7.119.225]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA29617 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 03:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00179; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:03:15 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601031103.NAA00179@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: PPP glitches To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:03:12 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 1, 96 08:01:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > > > Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with > > iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must > > be quite common, I would have thought.) > > I have this situation. I just modified 'simplesite' and left the > defaults as they are. Unfortunately, it appears that 'ppp.linkup' isn't > functioning...I have a bunch of annoying routes and try to delete them > wiht it and nothing happens. I end up su'ing to root, running a script > to delete them, then adding a default route for the connection. For > example, this is what I get just after connecting: > > gdi# netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 > 128.223.150.166 128.223.150.182 UH 6 0 tun0 > > So I enter 'route add default 128.223.150.166' and all is well. > > > Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately > > neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same > > state as before a connection was made. > > When I do 'close' in ppp, it deletes the default route just fine. > Thanks very much for the info. I think I tried to do pretty much what you have done in ppp.conf. I also found that ppp.linkup didn't seem to be working. I started out with [/etc/ppp/ppp.linkup] my_isp: delete ALL add 0 0 HISADDR but this never seemed to be invoked when I did dial my_isp However I did find that if I added the lines MYADDR: add 0 0 HISADDR to ppp.linkup, then this got invoked instead and ppp added the default route correctly. (I don't know if I'm confused, but it seemed from the documentation that just the my_isp section should have been needed.) Actually, what I'm most concerned about is the setup in /etc/sysconfig. I have (possibly relevant stuff only): [/etc/sysconfig] hostname="me.my_isp.com" defaultdomainname=NO tcp_extensions=YES network_interfaces="tun0 lo0" ifconfig_tun0="inet me.my_isp.com 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" static_routes="multicast loopback" route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface ${hostname}" route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" defaultrouter=NO routedflags="-s" [/etc/hosts] 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.0.0.1 me.my_isp.com me I'm not sure whether the "ifconfig_tun0" line should even be there, since it is just a lie, anyway, and "routed" times out the route and gets rid of it after a few minutes. I'm also not sure whether I want or need "multicast". After a connection is established, netstat -rn gives Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 196.7.101.66 UGc 0 0 tun0 10.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 196.7.101.66 196.7.101.141 UH 1 0 tun0 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 After a ppp close, I'm left with Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 10.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 196.7.101.66 196.7.101.141 UH 1 0 tun0 196.7.101.141 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 Before connecting again, I su to root and run a script containing netstat -r | grep '^[0-9]\{1,3\}\.' | awk '{print $1;}' | xargs -n1 route delete route flush which leaves me with Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 However, there must be something amiss somewhere. If I now do dial my_psp again, it works only about 70 percent of the time. Otherwise I get a message rtinit: wrong ifa (...) was (...) I feel sure I must have something set up wrong ... or maybe various things set up wrong. :-) Surely it should be possible to say (in effect) "OK, just forget all routing info from that last session." If that could happen, I think things would be OK, because it _always_ works correctly the first session. All this is a lot to bother anyone with, so feel free to >/dev/null it if too much trouble. :-) -- Robert Nordier rnordier@iafrica.com E.A.C. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 03:19:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA00354 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 03:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper119225.iafrica.com [196.7.119.225]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00332 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 03:19:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00194; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:06:45 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601031106.NAA00194@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: PPP glitches To: rlyon@ozemail.com.au (Richard Lyon) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:06:44 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Lyon" at Jan 2, 96 05:49:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Richard Lyon wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > > > > > Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with > > iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must > > be quite common, I would have thought.) > > . . . . . > > Dynamic addressing on both end ??? I though the source (you) could be dynamic > but it is usual to set the destination with a fixed address. > > Having both ends dynamic would be useful. This would allow you to connect to > a number of different destinations. Actually it just seems to be causing complications at the moment. :-) Trouble is, I don't have any say in the matter. Four times out of five, I get connected to one address (196...), but sometimes 192.... comes up instead, to keep things interesting. I've even tried holding out for just one of the two, using 196.../24, but they don't seem interested in negotiating. It's the same dial-in number, I suppose it just depends which machine gets to the phone first. Regards -- Robert Nordier rnordier@iafrica.com E.A.C. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 04:20:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA03154 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03149 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA18367; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:22:49 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601031222.EAA18367@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: How to change default shell? To: jmb@freebsd.org (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:22:49 -0800 (PST) Cc: JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 3, 96 00:36:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > > > I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly editing the > > /etc/passwd file. But that did not work, so I then tried editing the > > /etc/master.passwd file as well (should this be done?) I just want to have > > bash as the default shell rather than csh, but even with these fields changed, > > csh remains the default. > two steps are required. > 1. as root use vipw, a special version of vi, to edit the passwd file > find the entry for the user and replace /bin/csh with the path > to bash on your system. (probably /usr/local/bin/bash) > 2. edit /etc/shells. add a line containing the path to bash on your > system. (this lets a bash user ftp into the machine) One could also try the 'chfn' command. Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 04:39:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA03972 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:39:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-17.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03967 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA00943; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:43:32 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:43:31 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New mouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > Excuse my miserable graphics, but that's the best I can produce. Anyhow, > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. I've > tried all the obvious combinations I could define from the XConfig file, > but I still couldn't get it to work. I would really like some help. Have you tried the "ChordMiddle" option in XF86Config? Some "3-button" trackballs and mice don't send a specific signal for the middle button, but they send a signal as if both the left and right buttons were pressed at the same time ("chorded"). This might work for you, but YMMV. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 04:46:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04381 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-17.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04372 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA01011; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:50:36 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:50:36 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: William Bulley cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? In-Reply-To: <199601022053.PAA16382@ohm.merit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, William Bulley wrote: > Subject says it all. Some modern flavours of UNIX on PCs use > a less that true Bill Joy derived version of vi. Which version > if vi does FreeBSD use in 2.1 release? FreeBSD uses, I believe, the "nvi" editor by Keith Bostic. Supposedly nvi is a "bug-for-bug compatible replacement for the original Fourth Berkeley Software Distribution (4BSD) ex and vi programs." So far for me, it has seemed pretty faithful, except that, when you first enter a file, vi would show something like: "foo.c": 48 lines, 1020 characters at the bottom of the screen, whereas nvi shows: "README", unmodified: line 1 Kinda annoying, since the statistics (lines and characters) are usually important to me when editing something. But oh well. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 04:50:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04640 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-17.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04635 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA01027; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:54:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:54:07 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Piero Serini cc: davidg@Root.COM, eblood@winky.reno.nv.us, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver In-Reply-To: <199601022350.AAA11516@strider.ibenet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Piero Serini wrote: > Hello. > > Quoting from David Greenman (Sat Dec 30 00:14:10 1995): > > >What is the NetBSD ccd driver? > > > > It's the "concatenated disk" driver. It give you the ability to combine > > multiple physical disks into one logical volume. > > What's the benefit as opposed to, say, 5 different mounts? If you have a lot of littler disks lying around, sure you can mount a lot of littler partitions, but what if you want to turn all these little mounts into one honking BIG one, like /news or /usr/src? Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 04:53:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04872 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:53:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-17.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04867 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA01059; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:58:07 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:58:07 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: JOHN cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to change default shell? In-Reply-To: <01HZJNGCT0EA8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly editing the > /etc/passwd file. But that did not work, so I then tried editing the > /etc/master.passwd file as well (should this be done?) I just want to have > bash as the default shell rather than csh, but even with these fields changed, > csh remains the default. > > Also, what is the purpose of the master.passwd file? Is it just to implement > password shadowing? NEVER edit any password files directly. YOu should always use the "vipw" command. Master.passwd is the master password file ,literally. It contains all the encrypted passwords. /etc/passwd is automatically created FROM master.passwd, and it has "*" instead of the encrypted password. This is so that some Joe Cracker-type dude can't read /etc/passwd and have everybody's encrypted passwords to play around with. (master.passwd is accesssable to root only) Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 04:55:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04934 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-17.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04929 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA01067; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:59:46 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:59:46 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux still not working :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Doug White wrote: > Hello All! > > Running 2.1-R on a p90, 16mb RAM, X 3.1.2s. > > After grabbing fresh kernel source from ftp.cdrom.com and recompiling > with > > options LINUX_COMPAT > options COMPAT_LINUX > > xdoom still errors with 'bus error'. I'm having this probem too, and for the life of me, can't find a solution to it. If you hear of one I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know. Thanks! Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 05:12:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA05591 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA05586 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:12:06 -0800 (PST) From: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA10446 ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:11:53 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Donald Burr cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux still not working :( In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:59:46 PST." Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 05:11:52 -0800 Message-ID: <10444.820674712@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Donald Burr wrote in message ID : > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Doug White wrote: > I'm having this probem too, and for the life of me, can't find a solution > to it. If you hear of one I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know. Thanks! Probably a stupid question, but you are both loading the LKM after rebooting with the new kernel, aren't you? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 05:16:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA05842 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from bhoss.ifx.net ([206.25.218.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA05836 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from wjh@bhoss.ifx.net (bhoss.ifx.net [206.25.218.3]) by bhoss.ifx.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA02613 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:21:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:21:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD Reply-To: wjh@bhoss.ifx.net From: Bill Henderson To: Subject: help BACKUPS with TAR ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a scsi qic 3080 2gig tape backup unit, and while trying to backup using tar cv / it runs for quite awhile but always seeems to hang up the whole machine where a reboot is nessasary. I also tried the same backup to a hard disk with the same results, the disk is only 1.8 gig and only 46% being used, has anyone got an Idea to what is going on here or how to fix it ? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 05:32:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA06262 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from bhoss.ifx.net ([206.25.218.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA06257 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from wjh@bhoss.ifx.net (bhoss.ifx.net [206.25.218.3]) by bhoss.ifx.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA00203 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:38:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:38:11 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD Reply-To: wjh@bhoss.ifx.net From: Bill Henderson To: Subject: BACKUP problems - HELP ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a qic-3080 scsi 2gig backup unit that after most of the backup hangs up the whole machine requiring a reboot, Im backing up or trying to backup my file system, I also tried backing up with tar to a file on the harddisk with the same problem, the machine just hangs up near the end of the backup. does anyone have any Ideas ? any help would be appr... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 05:43:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA06720 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA06715 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id IAA12009; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:43:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:43:32 -0500 (EST) From: Geoffrey Deasey To: David Greenman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers In-Reply-To: <199601030559.VAA00247@corbin.Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, David Greenman wrote: > >ok, I booted it with the -c so I could change the irq and iomem settings > >for my smc network card which the kernel put at irq5 (my soundblaster is > >their) and iomem 0xe0000 the kernel put it at 0xd8000. I changed the > >settings and exited the menu and got a message about the wrong bucket and > >a kernel panic. > > Ugh. Obviously it should do that. I think the wrong bucket panic only > happens when an internal inconsistency is detected. Are you running with a > customized kernel (one you built yourself)? boot.flp off of ftp.freebsd.org > Did you specify the address > properly in hex (0xe0000), or could it be that you just typed "e0000"? no, I typed 0xe000 > You > might also look at the result after you changed it (using the ls command) and > make sure that it properly set. > Yes I did check I also did this 3 times in a row with the same result Hardware is as follows 486dx2 80 (amd) green motherbd soudblaster 16 with panasonic cr-563 cdrom connected smc elite ultra 16 (combo) vlb ide 2 port controller with 2s1p and floppy ati mach32 vlb video card. > -DG > > David Greenman > Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > ------------------------------------------------------------------ FreeBSD / Linux | Netpath, Inc & Stratonet, Inc. | ------------------+ 2466 Corporation Parkway | Opinions are mine | Burlington, NC 27215 910-226-0425 | not theirs +----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 06:00:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA07635 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from outland.cyberwar.com (root@outland.cyberwar.com [204.97.1.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA07621 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from klemmerm@localhost) by outland.cyberwar.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA03949; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:59:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:59:56 -0500 (EST) From: Karl Lemmermann To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Linux Emulation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having some problems getting linux emulation to work correctly, and i'm having problems finding any documentation at all on the subject. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I really couldn't find anything even in the mailing list when I searched it on the FreeBSD home page. I have the linux_emulator module loaded correctly, the kernel was compiled with the LINUX_COMPAT option, and I think I have the linux libraries in the correct location, since I installed them via the linux_lib1.0 package. I can't even get a linux 'ls' (from an old slackware distribution) to work. Could someone maybe tell me the name of a linux binary that should definately work, to assist me in testing. At least then I'll be able to figure out if it works when I get the configuration problem I seem to be having is fixed. BTW, has anyone gotten BRU for linux 14.2 working under the emulator? --- Karl E. Lemmermann Systems Engineer klemmerm@cyberwar.com Cyber Warrior, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 06:05:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA08393 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:05:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08380 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:05:17 -0800 (PST) From: ptroot@uswest.com Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA21879; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:05:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA09381; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:12:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12031; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:53:16 -0600 Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA01302; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:53:16 -0600 Message-Id: <9601031353.AA01302@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: Help! My beautiful kernel won't compile! :( To: JSINNOTT@pomona.edu (JOHN) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:53:16 -0600 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01HZJ8GHWAEA8WWNVJ@POMONA.EDU> from "JOHN" at Jan 2, 96 12:07:16 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, JOHN said: > > First off, I would like to thank everyone involved with the FreeBSD project. > This system is GREAT - I love it, and in my opinion (I'm a newbie so nobody flame > me please) it feels more professional than Linux. > > Now with my question. :) > > I am trying to compile a kernal with support for such things as a PS/2 mouse, > SB16, my Adaptec card etc. > > So, I followed the instructions down to the letter from the FreeBSD handbook. > I typed "make depend" - great. > I typed "make" and everything was going well until it stopped with these error > messages: > > loading kernel > > kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment > soundcard.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_select' referenced from text segment > soundcard.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_init' referenced from text segment > sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_read' referenced from text segment > sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_write' referenced from text segment > sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_open' referenced from text segment > sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_release' referenced from text segment > sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_ioctl' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > > Now, I put these three lines in my kernel config file as suggested by the > Handbook for my soundblaster 16: > > controller snd0 > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq5 > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 There are 3 devices that you need to add for the SoundBlaster to compile in. Check the handbook again. There are also options to set if you (like me) moved the IRQ or DRQ. > And I have NO idea what the '_hw_float' might be referring to. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Happy New Year! > > John Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com " 'Eisteddfod' is an old Welsh word from the old Welsh. It comes from two words: 'eistedd' meaning 'bored' and 'fod' meaning 'stiff'." Jon Pertwee in The Goodies (Wacky Wales) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 06:37:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA10697 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA10692 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:37:55 -0800 (PST) From: ptroot@uswest.com Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA22664; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:23:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA09468; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:31:25 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12105; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:23:27 -0600 Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA01369; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:23:27 -0600 Message-Id: <9601031423.AA01369@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: Three problems with FreeBSD 2.1 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:23:26 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601022216.XAA17231@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jan 2, 96 11:16:50 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, J Wunsch said: > > As ptroot@uswest.com wrote: > > > > 1) When I halt/reboot/shutdown the machine, it tries to > > sync but after a line full of 1 1 1 1 1 it says > > giving up. then on reboot it says / was not properly unmounted. > > > > Could it be that the partition goes past 1024 cylinders? > > No idea for this. The 1024 cylinders are not a problem for FreeBSD > (except for the boot process, where the BIOS is involved). Can you expand on this? > > 2) X won't work. > > I can only start it as root, though the device is 666. I > > tried this with both the sco and the vt console. (I built both) > > Which device? I found this one. It was operator error. I upgraded from Solaris 2.5 x86 and had some full paths to non-existant places in my .xinitrc. The devices were: /dev/ttyv4 and whatever the vt console device was. > > There is a 1 inch border on all sides. I don't have enough > > screen to let that happen. > > I thought it doesn't work? > > In case it works, but you aren't satisfied with the results, have you > considered xvidtune? Hadn't heard of xvidtune. I'll look for it. Any pointers/gotchas on this program? > > The mouse runs to 0 0 and then won't move from it, the > > first time you touch the mouse. This is the mse0 driver. > > Perhaps you've configured the wrong mouse protocol in the XF86Config > file? At Pedro A M Vazquez's prompting, I tried using the Mouse Systems driver (inside XFree86) and that worked. Who would have thought that you can't use the Logitec Bus mouse driver on a Logitec Bus mouse. Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Would dogs play fetch if they knew how to throw the stick themselves? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 07:02:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA12048 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [192.231.221.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA12041 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peterb@localhost) by ivory.lm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA13614; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:01:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:01:56 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Berger X-Sender: peterb@ivory.lm.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: COMPAT_43 ... what breaks? Message-ID: X-Mentos: The Freshmaker! X-Request-Do: resolve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk So just what -will- break if you compile a kernel without COMPAT_43? Inquiring minds want to know. "The law locks up both man and woman/Who steals the goose from off the common But lets the greater felon loose/Who steals the common from the goose." -anon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Berger - peterb@telerama.lm.com - http://www.lm.com/~peterb From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 07:11:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA12632 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA12621 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27107; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id KAA03501; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:11:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:11:24 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: Terry Lambert cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New mouse In-Reply-To: <199601030253.TAA13456@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: [intro and bad graphics deleted]] > > Excuse my miserable graphics, but that's the best I can produce. Anyhow, > > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. I've > > tried all the obvious combinations I could define from the XConfig file, > > but I still couldn't get it to work. I would really like some help. > > > > Of course, if someone said "RTFM, you fool" and included a reference to > > the FM, I would be even happier. Even if it meant buying a book. > > Well, other than cleaning your old trackball, you probably want to > hold down the left mouse button while you are powering on and/or when > you start the X server. > > Many of these sill "MS compatible" mice with three buttons will switch > modes based on the left button being down at power on. Thanks, Terry, mine did. > > If it's really old, there's probably a small switch somewhere. > The older one these two are replacing did have a switch. > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 07:15:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA13050 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA13038 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27168; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:15:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id KAA03580; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:14:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:14:54 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New mouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. > > The Microsoft mouse spec does not support the middle button. The > logitech spec does, however. If either of these specs are available electronically, I'd appreciate a pointer to them. Terry's suggestion of holding down the left mouse button thru a power cycle seems to have done the trick, they are now functioning as MouseSystems 3 button mice. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 07:32:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA14287 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA14253 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.6.10/ISnet/14-10-91); Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:32:15 GMT Received: from smarties.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.11/ISnet/12-09-94); Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:28:03 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:28:03 GMT Message-Id: <199601031528.PAA12069@hummer.islandia.is> X-Sender: gestur@islandia.is X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: gestur@islandia.is (Gestur A. Grjetarsson) Subject: prevent paralell modem connection Cc: admin@islandia.is Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'd like to ask you, Could users on FreeBSD system hold two or more modem connections at same time, parallel logged on ? If so, is there a way to prevent people to be able to get connection on the system from two or more places at one time, like if users share their accounts, taking two modems and only paying for one account ? My system has limited amount of modems attached, so it would be of good appreaciation if I could manage to prevent parallel modem connections for one user. Thanks in advance, Međ kveđju, Sincerely, ----------------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson kerfisstjóri islandia.is sysadmin islandia.is Islandia, Grensásvegur 7, 2h.t.h., 108 Reykjavik sími 5884020, modem 5884120, fax 5884014 http://www.islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/english.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 07:38:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA14774 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA14769 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:38:25 -0800 (PST) From: ptroot@uswest.com Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26713; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:38:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA09995; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:46:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12363; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:38:11 -0600 Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA01502; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:31:52 -0600 Message-Id: <9601031531.AA01502@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: User PPP drops connections To: tbraun@eng.adaptec.com (Terry Braun x2537) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:31:51 -0600 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601022014.AA03337@eng.adaptec.com> from "Terry Braun x2537" at Jan 2, 96 12:14:50 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Terry Braun x2537 said: > > > Hello, > > I am trying to use the user ppp to maintain a dedicated > connection to PPP server. The connection fails frequently. > This is FreeBSD straight from the 2.1.0 CDROM. The problem > seems to get worse with the load on the connection (transferring > 1 MB requires 6 resets at times). I get messages about SIO > buffer overflows. The hardware is a 486-33 with 16 MB and a > 16550A serial card attached to a 28.8 modem. > > I could guess that the CPU is the problem, but doesn't that > 16MB count for anything? > > Thanks for the help. > Terry Braun To me this sounds like your using XON/XOFF instead of hardware flow control. Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com "I am rather of the opinion," said Rabadash, "that it has come about by the alteration of the stars and the operation of natural causes." From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 07:57:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA16043 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA16038 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 07:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA16029 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:57:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199601031557.AA16029@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:57:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: Geoffrey Deasey "Re: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers" (Jan 3, 8:43) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Geoffrey Deasey Subject: Re: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 3, 8:43, Geoffrey Deasey wrote: } Subject: Re: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers } On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, David Greenman wrote: } > Did you specify the address } > properly in hex (0xe0000), or could it be that you just typed "e0000"? } } no, I typed 0xe000 Try again with 0xe0000 (additional '0' !) Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 08:32:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA17749 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA17744 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA24392; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:32:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:32:13 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601031632.AA24392@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Peter Berger Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: COMPAT_43 ... what breaks? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk < said: > So just what -will- break if you compile a kernel without COMPAT_43? > Inquiring minds want to know. Anything that uses the old-style (sgtty) terminal driver. Most of the other bits of code conditioned on COMPAT_43 are binary compatibility with 4.3 system calls for Suns and VAXen, and really could be done without for i386es, since those 4.3 system calls were never used on the i386 platform (having been superseded before the i386 port was done). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 08:32:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA17769 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA17758 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19952; Wed, 3 Jan 96 10:32:25 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA08338; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:32:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:32:25 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601031632.AA08338@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: JSINNOTT@pomona.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01HZJNGCT0EA8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> (message from JOHN on Tue, 02 Jan 1996 19:09:07 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: How to change default shell? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "JOHN" == JOHN writes: JOHN> I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly JOHN> editing the /etc/passwd file. Try running chpass. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA If you're ever stuck in some thick undergrowth, in your underwear, don't stop and think of what other words have 'under' in them, because that's probably the first sign of jungle madness. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 08:33:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA17845 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:33:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA17840 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19965; Wed, 3 Jan 96 10:33:36 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA08342; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:33:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:33:35 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601031633.AA08342@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: peterb@telerama.lm.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Peter Berger on Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:01:56 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: COMPAT_43 ... what breaks? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Berger writes: Peter> So just what -will- break if you compile a kernel without Peter> COMPAT_43? Inquiring minds want to know. xterm. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 08:35:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA18040 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18034 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19989; Wed, 3 Jan 96 10:35:26 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA08344; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:35:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:35:25 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601031635.AA08344@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Chuck Robey on Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:14:54 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: New mouse Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Robey writes: Chuck> If either of these specs are available electronically, I'd Chuck> appreciate a pointer to them. Terry's suggestion of Chuck> holding down the left mouse button thru a power cycle seems Chuck> to have done the trick, they are now functioning as Chuck> MouseSystems 3 button mice. Yes, thanks for posting these hints, Terry. My recent trip to Dallas featured several jaunts to MicroCenter where I got ahold of a number of three button mice for US$1.99 (after rebate) ... I'll try the button-one-during-power-on trick on them. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA One time I went to a museum where all the work in the museum had been done by children. They had all the paintings up on refrigerators. -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 08:49:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA18961 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18956 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA06675 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:49:08 -0800 Received: from egg.lmc.ericsson.se (egg.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.32.1]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.6.11/1.0) with SMTP id RAA09680 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:43:57 +0100 Received: from chicago.lmc.ericsson.com (chicago.lmc.ericsson.se) by egg.lmc.ericsson.se (4.1/LME-2.2) id AA05503; Wed, 3 Jan 96 10:51:37 EST Received: by chicago.lmc.ericsson.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA13103; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:50:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:50:39 -0500 (EST) From: Samy Touati X-Sender: lmcsato@chicago To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Machine won't reboot Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I installed 2.1 last week, on my 486, which had 2.0 on it, and everything seems fine. The only problem I find is that the machine won't reset after issuing a reboot command: I see the syncing disks after that I see the Reboot word, and everything hang there. This feature used to work on my 2.0 system. I reconfigured a new kernel with only the appropriate devices and the problem still occur. Any hints? Samy From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:11:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20614 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from Access.Mountain.Net (jzimba@Access.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20609 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jzimba@localhost) by Access.Mountain.Net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA29580; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:10:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Joel Zimba To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1 no cursor in syscons Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I don't care for te lack of use of the system cursor in syscons. Is there any way to get rid of that little color block and use the honest to god cursor? there is a cursor shown option in syscons.h, cand I change the mask to make the cursor work? thanks Joel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:11:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20640 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20632 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA20344; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:11:27 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA08477; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:11:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:11:25 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601031711.AA08477@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: matt@server.wulaw.wustl.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <30E12443.4B0D@server.wulaw.wustl.edu> (message from Matt Rosenberg on Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:47:31 -0600) Subject: Re: ecu and tip Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Rosenberg writes: Matt> I am trying to automate a daily batch download from a BBS Matt> via modem using 2.1.0. I am using ecu BETA-3.34.56 and rz Matt> (The standard FreeBSD port)version 3.36. Matt> I created a wonderful ecu script ... Matt> I thought I would then try tip and converted my ecu script Matt> to perl to interface with tip ... Matt> Anyone have an idea for a work around either place? Hmm, maybe you want to try expect? I've never tried it with rz/sz, but expect acts really well with a lot of other programs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ #!/usr/local/bin/expect set fd [open /dev/cuaa1 r+] stty -f /dev/cuaa1 38400 raw spawn -open $fd ... do login stuff ... ... get to patch location ... exec rz exit 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA TASK: Shoot yourself in the foot. In Modula2: After realizing that you can't actually accomplish anything in this language, you shoot yourself in the head. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:13:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20916 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20911 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from block.statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tXWkG-000r3sC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:13 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by block.statsci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA01158; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:12:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199601031712.JAA01158@block.statsci.com> To: Chuck Robey cc: Binh Do , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jan 1996 15:51:57 -0500." Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 09:12:59 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote: > Reading from dos partitions seems to be pretty safe, but there is a bug No...it depends on what you've been doing to your partitions to get where you are. In my case, I used FIPS to shrink my DOS slice to make room for UNIX. It appears that FIPS does something (legal) to the DOS FAT that the FreeBSD msdosfs can't understand (DOS, NT and Linux have no problems with it). When mounting my DOS slices (even read-only), I ended up getting corrupt BSD file systems. I think someone has suggested that it might also be related to the DOS slice being before my BSD slice on the disk (but that's the way FIPS works - defrag [move used space to start of partition], then split it). > in the msdos filesystem implementation (FreeBSD's implementation) and > writing, while it is possible to force it, is a very bad idea. I don't > think I'd do it, without an awfully good reason, and a complete backup of > the disk involved. Yes, make sure your backups are up to date. In my case, I just avoid mount DOS partitions at all for the time being. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:22:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA21477 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw0.telebase.com (root@gw0.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21471 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:22:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by gw0.telebase.com id NAA10002 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from odo.telebase.com (root@odo.telebase.com [172.16.2.217]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.7.1/8.6.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15233 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bmc@localhost) by odo.telebase.com (8.6.12/8.6.9.1) id MAA01163; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:26:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:26:56 -0500 From: Brian Clapper Message-Id: <199601031726.MAA01163@telebase.com.> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux Emulation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Karl Lemmermann writes: > I'm having some problems getting linux emulation to work correctly, and > i'm having problems finding any documentation at all on the subject. Can > anyone point me in the right direction? I really couldn't find anything > even in the mailing list when I searched it on the FreeBSD home page. > > I have the linux_emulator module loaded correctly, the kernel was > compiled with the LINUX_COMPAT option, and I think I have the > linux libraries in the correct location, since I installed them via the > linux_lib1.0 package. I can't even get a linux 'ls' (from an old > slackware distribution) to work. > > Could someone maybe tell me the name of a linux binary that should > definately work, to assist me in testing. At least then I'll be able to > figure out if it works when I get the configuration problem I seem to be > having is fixed. I just got the Linux version of Netscape (1.2) running with no problem on FreeBSD 2.1. (It's not that I actually want to *use* Linux's Netscape, but it's a bloated enough application to make a good test case.) Here are the steps I followed: 1. Build a new kernel, with the following option: options COMPAT_LINUX 2. Install the kernel and reboot. (Of course.) 3. Load the Linux compatibility module: odo (/usr/local/bin) # modload -e linux_init /lkm/linux_mod.o Linux emulator installed Module loaded as ID 0 odo (/usr/local/bin) # modstat Type Id Off Loadaddr Size Info Rev Module Name EXEC 0 3 f0925000 0018 f092a000 1 linux_emulator 4. Install the Linux compatibility libraries from the Ports collection: a. Get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/emulators/linux_lib.tar.gz b. Extract it. c. Build it. d. Install it. It creates files in /compat/linux/lib 5. Try to run your application. Now, when I tried to run the Linux version of Netscape, it came up, but aborted with the following errors: resolv+: "bind" is an invalid keyword resolv+: "hosts" is an invalid keyword It turns out Linux has an "/etc/host.conf" and FreeBSD has one, but they appear to be incompatible. I moved my "/etc/host.conf" out of the way (temporarily), and the Linux Netscape came up perfectly. Of course, I connected to "www.freebsd.org" as a test... Perhaps there's a way to point the Linux executables at a separate /etc tree which contains a Linux "host.conf". If there is, I don't know how, though. ---- Brian Clapper, bmc@telebase.com, http://www.netaxs.com/~bmc/ "In defeat, unbeatable; in victory, unbearable." -- Winston Curchill, of Montgomery From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:24:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA21537 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:24:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigdipper.iagi.net (bigdipper.iagi.net [204.157.123.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21532 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from adhir@localhost) by bigdipper.iagi.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA14592; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:27:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:27:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New mouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > I tried to keep this question off this list, but I have been patiently > waiting responses from several other sources, and they don't seem to be > panning out. I wanted to replace my old Addison trackballs with new > ones, because their action was getting quite jerky. I insist on getting > a track ball with this geometry: > > /------------------+---+---+---\ > | | | | | > | | | | | > | --- +---+---+---| > | ( ) | > | ___ | > | | > \------------------------------/ > Excuse my miserable graphics, but that's the best I can produce. Anyhow, > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. I've > tried all the obvious combinations I could define from the XConfig file, > but I still couldn't get it to work. I would really like some help. > > Of course, if someone said "RTFM, you fool" and included a reference to > the FM, I would be even happier. Even if it meant buying a book. While this is not the answer you want - it will probably work: Insert the "Emulate3Buttons" line into the pointer section of the XF86Config file, so that at least you can simulate a middle mouse button push by pushing the two extremes. If this isn't good enough, and you haven't already tried, stick a "ChordMiddle" in the pointer section and see if this works. Good luck! Alok K. Dhir Internet Access Group, Inc. adhir@iagi.net (301) 652-0484 Fax: (301) 652-0649 http://www.iagi.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:28:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA21806 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21792 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id LAA13230; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:27:06 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199601031727.LAA13230@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: prevent paralell modem connection To: gestur@islandia.is (Gestur A. Grjetarsson) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:27:05 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, admin@islandia.is In-Reply-To: <199601031528.PAA12069@hummer.islandia.is> from "Gestur A. Grjetarsson" at Jan 3, 96 03:28:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, > > I'd like to ask you, > > Could users on FreeBSD system hold two or more modem connections at > same time, parallel logged on ? Sure. > If so, is there a way to prevent people to be able to get connection on > the system from two or more places at one time, like if users share their > accounts, taking two modems and only paying for one account ? Sure. Stick a "cron" job in to count the number of times that a user is on a tty line. Think about something like: #! /bin/sh - PATH=/bin:/usr/bin; export PATH who | grep " ttyd" | sort | uniq -c | ( while read count user; do if [ ${count} -gt 1 ]; then kill -HUP `ps agxu | grep "^${user} " | awk '{print $2}'` fi done ) This is of course very simplistic but could be effective if run out of cron, say, every 5 minutes (excuse any errors, I have NOT tested it, you shouldn't run it unless you understand what it is doing and can fix my bugs)... This is simpler than the network/X11 pty case, of course.. ;-) > My system has limited amount of modems attached, so it would be of good > appreaciation if I could manage to prevent parallel modem connections for > one user. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:28:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA21837 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21804 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa19147; 3 Jan 96 12:31 EST Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:31:16 -0500 (EST) From: steve hovey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: shared mem nnrpd patch on freebsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk has anyone gotten the shared active nnrpd to work on freebsd (pick a version). I tried with 2.0.5R and all it does is hang. (I have options SYSV* in the compiled kernal ) -------------------------------------------------- Stephen Hovey shovey@buffnet.net root@buffnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:36:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA23170 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from colossus.tia.net (colossus.tia.net [205.244.60.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23157 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by colossus.tia.net; id AA21011; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:39:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:38:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Joseph D. Orthoefer" To: Peter Berger Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: COMPAT_43 ... what breaks? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk With 2.0-RELEASE I got a little crazy and took that and almost everything else that "seemed" non-essential out of a kernel, and ttyname stopped working. Really screwed wtmp, and everything that depended on the tty info therein. That was the most annoying thing, and is the only thing I distinctly remember breaking. On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Peter Berger wrote: > > So just what -will- break if you compile a kernel without COMPAT_43? > Inquiring minds want to know. > > > "The law locks up both man and woman/Who steals the goose from off the common > But lets the greater felon loose/Who steals the common from the goose." -anon > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Berger - peterb@telerama.lm.com - http://www.lm.com/~peterb > > Joseph D. Orthoefer From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:43:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA24501 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (root@oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24436 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlyon (slmel1p35.ozemail.com.au [203.2.195.51]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA03847; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:41:48 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199601031741.EAA03847@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Richard Lyon" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, Robert Nordier Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:37:40 +0000 Subject: Re: PPP glitches CC: questions@freebsd.org X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Richard Lyon" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: Robert Nordier > Subject: Re: PPP glitches > To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:03:12 +0200 (SAT) > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Doug White wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > > > > > Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with > > > iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must > > > be quite common, I would have thought.) > > > > I have this situation. I just modified 'simplesite' and left the > > defaults as they are. Unfortunately, it appears that 'ppp.linkup' isn't > > functioning...I have a bunch of annoying routes and try to delete them > > wiht it and nothing happens. I end up su'ing to root, running a script > > to delete them, then adding a default route for the connection. For > > example, this is what I get just after connecting: > > > > gdi# netstat -rn > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 > > 128.223.150.166 128.223.150.182 UH 6 0 tun0 > > > > So I enter 'route add default 128.223.150.166' and all is well. > > > > > Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately > > > neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same > > > state as before a connection was made. > > > > When I do 'close' in ppp, it deletes the default route just fine. > > > > Thanks very much for the info. > > I think I tried to do pretty much what you have done in ppp.conf. I also > found that ppp.linkup didn't seem to be working. I started out with > > [/etc/ppp/ppp.linkup] > my_isp: > delete ALL > add 0 0 HISADDR > > but this never seemed to be invoked when I did > > dial my_isp > > However I did find that if I added the lines > > MYADDR: > add 0 0 HISADDR > > to ppp.linkup, then this got invoked instead and ppp added the default > route correctly. (I don't know if I'm confused, but it seemed from the > documentation that just the my_isp section should have been needed.) > > Actually, what I'm most concerned about is the setup in /etc/sysconfig. > > I have (possibly relevant stuff only): > > [/etc/sysconfig] > hostname="me.my_isp.com" > defaultdomainname=NO > tcp_extensions=YES > network_interfaces="tun0 lo0" > ifconfig_tun0="inet me.my_isp.com 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" > static_routes="multicast loopback" > route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface ${hostname}" > route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" > defaultrouter=NO > routedflags="-s" If you have a standalone machine with no network cards try: routedflags="NO" namedflags="NO" You should be able to get rid of the timeout message. > > [/etc/hosts] > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 10.0.0.1 me.my_isp.com me > > I'm not sure whether the "ifconfig_tun0" line should even be there, since > it is just a lie, anyway, and "routed" times out the route and gets rid > of it after a few minutes. I'm also not sure whether I want or need > "multicast". > > After a connection is established, netstat -rn gives > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 196.7.101.66 UGc 0 0 tun0 > 10.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 0 lo0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 > 196.7.101.66 196.7.101.141 UH 1 0 tun0 > 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 > > After a ppp close, I'm left with > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 10.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 0 lo0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 > 196.7.101.66 196.7.101.141 UH 1 0 tun0 > 196.7.101.141 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 > > Before connecting again, I su to root and run a script containing > > netstat -r | grep '^[0-9]\{1,3\}\.' | awk '{print $1;}' | xargs -n1 route delete > route flush > > which leaves me with > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 > > However, there must be something amiss somewhere. If I now do > > dial my_psp > > again, it works only about 70 percent of the time. Otherwise I get a message > > rtinit: wrong ifa (...) was (...) > > I feel sure I must have something set up wrong ... or maybe various things > set up wrong. :-) > > Surely it should be possible to say (in effect) "OK, just forget all routing > info from that last session." If that could happen, I think things would be > OK, because it _always_ works correctly the first session. > > All this is a lot to bother anyone with, so feel free to >/dev/null it > if too much trouble. :-) > > -- > Robert Nordier > rnordier@iafrica.com > E.A.C. > PPP (Pain Pain Pain) Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:48:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA25417 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA25372 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA14945; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:39:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601031739.KAA14945@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( To: jmb@FreeBSD.org (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:39:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: scouch@io.org, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 2, 96 11:03:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Unfortunately, this had no effect on iij-ppp, in term mode. I still get no > > characters received/sent by/from the modem. One note however, when I issue > > the term command, the TR light on the modem comes on, indicating that some > > sort of signal is being received. > > TR?? as in DTR ?? what kind of modem again please?? can you > send the setup information (available with ati4 or at&v or some such > depend on maker) I think what was meant was "TR?? as in Transmit Received??". 8-). The modem won't necessarily respond if DTR is not also asserted. Since DTR is asserted by opening the port if you are using the cua device, most likely, the port had enabled CTS/RTS and is not asserting CTS. Since you are using iijppp, I know that CTS/RTS is enabled on the port. The question is, is your modem new enough to handle it correctly, and is your cable good? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:48:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA25601 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hobbit.tubank.msk.su (hobbit.tubank.msk.su [194.58.146.97]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA25469 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by hobbit.tubank.msk.su (IP Labs/BSDI/386 1.0) id UAA22401; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:46:13 +0300 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:46:12 +0300 (GMT+0300) From: Alex Kluev To: Stefan Esser cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem In-Reply-To: <199601012041.AA18165@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! this is what we got after compiling in the pcibus.c from the FreeBSD-current : [cut here] pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x00000000(0x80000000) pcibus_setup(1b): mode1res=0x80000000(0xff000001) pcibus_check: device - is there (id=20000e11) Probing for devices on the PCI bus: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices pci0:0 Compaq, device 0x2000, class=old (misc)[no driver assigned] map(10): mem32(23c08) map(14): mem32(1c3c98) map(18): mem32(1c3ca8) map(1c): mem32(39940) map(20): io(20000e10) vga0 rev 252 on pci0:10 mapreg[10] type=0 addr=40000000 size=1000000 ahc0: rev 3 int a irq255 on pci0:14 ahc0: reading board settings ahc0: Reading SEEPROM... ahc0: SEEPROM read failed, using leftover BIOS values ahc0: 2940 single channel , SCSI Id=7, aic=7870, 0 SCBs. stray irq 0 ahc: Downloading sequencer program ... start irq 0 stray irq 0 stray irq 0 stray irq 0 too many stray irq 0's; not logging any more [cut here] After this point everything hangs with a continous bell from the speaker. Stefan, if only we had some docs on the PCI chipsets, we could try to help with this situation. Could you spare any docs? Regards, Alex ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Alex Kluev ..."The life is a short warm moment, + + Internet: alex@tubank.msk.su And the death is a long cold rest..."+ + Phone: +7 (095) 913-3089 Pink Floyd "Obscured by clouds" + + Fax: +7 (095) 330-6793 + + PGP Key fingerprint = 2E 46 74 FB D1 B4 E4 63 D3 9D A1 16 2B F0 F3 6B + +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > On Dec 30, 15:41, Alex Kluev wrote: > } Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem > } OK, here comes two verbose boot logs. First one is GENERIC, second one is > } a fixed kernel. Sorry, the AHA board was taken from me, but I will get it > } back after the NewYear's celebrations. > } > } I hope this will help. > > Thanks! > > } pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x8000000c (0x80000000), mode2res=0x0c (0x0e) > > Yes, this is a know buggy chip set ... > But they seem to have broken it even more by now! > > } pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x8000000c (0x80000000), mode2res=0x0c (0x0c) > } pcibus_setup(2): mode1res=0x00000000 (0x80000000) > } pcibus_setup(3): mode1res=0x80000000 (0xff000001) > } pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=20000e11) > } Probing for devices on the PCI bus: > } configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. > } pci0:0: Compaq, device=0x2000, class=old (misc) [no driver assigned] > > The fix I put in before was for the Compaq chip set > with device ID 0x1000, and this one behaves different > even again. > > But the code in FreeBSD-current does know how to deal > with them ... > > Your proposed fix is in fact only working by accident. > The 0x0e is for Configuration Mode 2 detecion, while > the Compaq uses Mode 1. By changing the 0x0e into 0x0c, > you make the Mode 2 test succeed, but later Mode 1 is > (correctly) used to access the PCI configuration space > anyway. > > You can of course use the kernel with your patch on > the Compaq, but the better solution would be to use > /sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c from FreeBSD-current, since > that file contains a new and improved probe code ... > > Regards, STefan > -- > Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 > Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 > ============================================================================== > http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:53:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26173 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26168 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA14957; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:43:28 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601031743.KAA14957@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: dual boot FreeBSD and Win95 To: darkeye@io.org (Jason Antheunis) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:43:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <30EA56EF.1573@io.org> from "Jason Antheunis" at Jan 3, 96 02:14:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am wondering if I can dual boot FreeBSD and Win95 from the same > harddrive? Am I able to use a boot manager or how should I go about > this. Any help would be appresiated. I have already ordered FreeBSD from > CDROM.COM and so I would like to use both. Please help. Install Win95 first or you will lose the boot manager. Otherwise, the 'a' slice of the FreeBSD disk needs to be below cylinder 1024 if bad144 is off, and the entire FreeBSD partition needs to be below cylinder 1024 if bad144 is on. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 09:59:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26668 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:59:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26628 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA14974; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:48:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601031748.KAA14974@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:48:43 -0700 (MST) Cc: web@merit.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Jan 3, 96 04:50:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Subject says it all. Some modern flavours of UNIX on PCs use > > a less that true Bill Joy derived version of vi. Which version > > if vi does FreeBSD use in 2.1 release? > > FreeBSD uses, I believe, the "nvi" editor by Keith Bostic. Supposedly nvi > is a "bug-for-bug compatible replacement for the original Fourth Berkeley > Software Distribution (4BSD) ex and vi programs." > > So far for me, it has seemed pretty faithful, except that, when you first > enter a file, vi would show something like: > > "foo.c": 48 lines, 1020 characters > > at the bottom of the screen, whereas nvi shows: > > "README", unmodified: line 1 > > Kinda annoying, since the statistics (lines and characters) are usually > important to me when editing something. But oh well. It also puts two spaces instead of one after "!" and "?" and "." on a join line ("J") command. It also does not restore VT100 cursor key application mode when you ":sh" or "^Z"/fg the vi session. The first, at least, has been reported, and Keith doesn't want to change it or make it optional. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 10:11:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27573 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27567 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA02719 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:09:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199601031809.AA02719@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:09:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: Alex Kluev "Re: Adaptec 294x problem" (Jan 3, 20:46) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Alex Kluev Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 3, 20:46, Alex Kluev wrote: } Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem } Hi! this is what we got after compiling in the pcibus.c from the } FreeBSD-current : } [cut here] } pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x00000000(0x80000000) } pcibus_setup(1b): mode1res=0x80000000(0xff000001) } pcibus_check: device - is there (id=20000e11) } Probing for devices on the PCI bus: } configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices } pci0:0 Compaq, device 0x2000, class=old (misc)[no driver assigned] Fine the PCI bus was probed and the first PCI chip identified. } vga0 rev 252 on pci0:10 } mapreg[10] type=0 addr=40000000 size=1000000 Another PCI card was correctly identified. } ahc0: rev 3 int a irq255 on pci0:14 And finally your Adaptec. Did I see a IRQ 255 there ? I guess your system doesn't offer that many IRQs ... :) } ahc0: reading board settings } ahc0: Reading SEEPROM... } ahc0: SEEPROM read failed, using leftover BIOS values } ahc0: 2940 single channel , SCSI Id=7, aic=7870, 0 SCBs. } stray irq 0 The Adaptec has been initialized to issue IRQ 0s ... This has to be configured in the PCI BIOS setup menu of your system. Let me know if you have any trouble to get this set up! } Stefan, if only we had some docs on the PCI chipsets, we could try to } help with this situation. Could you spare any docs? Well, there are a number of things I REALLY would love to do currently, but can't for lack of spare time :( There is an installation manuall being reviewed currently, and I want to get some PCI information in, but I don't know, whether I will have time to contribute something. There is no lack of documentation on PCI chipsets, IMHO, but a lack of documentation of general PCI concepts (e.g. the PCI interrupt routing, there have been a number of wrong advices floating around, and it is not that complex, just different than on the ISA bus ...). Anyway, please try to specify an IRQ for the PCI slot of your Adaptec card. It must be different from any interrupt used for ISA cards, but several PCI cards may share one IRQ. The boot message should contain that IRQ number, and then you should be set ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 10:15:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27925 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27920 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA14999; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:59:04 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601031759.KAA14999@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Three problems with FreeBSD 2.1 To: ptroot@uswest.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:59:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601031423.AA01369@kermit.acs.uswest.com> from "ptroot@uswest.com" at Jan 3, 96 08:23:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Could it be that the partition goes past 1024 cylinders? > > > > No idea for this. The 1024 cylinders are not a problem for FreeBSD > > (except for the boot process, where the BIOS is involved). > > Can you expand on this? INT 13 BIOS calls for absolute read and write use C/H/S values, which are 24 bits in size: C:10 H:6 S:8 Thus the largest Cylinder addressable by DOS is 1024. Thus the Abomination Before God of geometry translation, since the old IBM engineers thought that you'd be upping your platters and sector density before you could reliably get more cylinders on a disk (guess they never heard of optical interferometry). Thus OnTrack and EZ-Boot and other TSR INT 21-to-LBA redirectors. Thus the coining of the term "LBA" to refer to what has always been "Absolute Sector Addressing" in the SCSI world to make it look like it was some "new" soloution to the "problem" (which is really that the INT 21 interface and C/H/S addressing are a dumb idea that no one is willing to give up even though they would only live two years after they were killed). Thus engineers love SCSI. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 10:23:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA28596 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28590 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id NAA29840; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id NAA07365; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:23:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:23:36 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New mouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > Excuse my miserable graphics, but that's the best I can produce. Anyhow, > > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. I've > > tried all the obvious combinations I could define from the XConfig file, > > but I still couldn't get it to work. I would really like some help. > > Have you tried the "ChordMiddle" option in XF86Config? Some "3-button" > trackballs and mice don't send a specific signal for the middle button, > but they send a signal as if both the left and right buttons were pressed > at the same time ("chorded"). This might work for you, but YMMV. Yeah, I tried that. Like I said, I went thru the XF86Config file, and tried all the options that looked like they might pass. Terry suggested trying to hold the left mouse button key down thru a power cycle of the system, and that converted the trackballs into looking like a 3 button MouseSystems mice, so I guess I'm happy right now. I can s---can the older stuff, and get to work! > > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** > > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 11:06:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01018 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01012 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from block.statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tXYVx-000r3sC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:06 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by block.statsci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA02229; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:06:20 -0800 Message-Id: <199601031906.LAA02229@block.statsci.com> To: Chuck Robey Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 1996 13:40:11 -0500." Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 11:06:19 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote[in private email to me, reprinted here with permission :-)]:: > I'm not an authority on this by any means, but I'm pretty sure I'm right > on what I said. That doesn't mean you could be right _too_, but I have I believe we are both right. > heard lots of folks saying that the msdos filesystem code in FreeBSD is > not correct, and the reason I heard was because it tried to do buffering > of the msdos stuff, but the locking mechanism was incorrect, causing > errors to propagate. This is supposed to be most obvious when doing mv > commands. I think you could get either Justin Gibbs or Terry (I forget > his lastname, but you know who I mean) to explain it more authoritatively. I've brought this up a couple times before and the result of the discussions was that there seemed to be a connection between using FIPS to shrink the DOS slice and the BSD corruptions I was seeing. I believe the FIPS author was involved in some of the discussion (though possibly not on the FreeBSD lists??). I think it had something to do with changing the size of the used portion of the FAT without changing the size of the table itself (there's a check for this sort of condition in the mtools package that the FIPS author said shouldn't be made because the condition is legitimate). That's something that appears to be "legal" but confuses the FreeBSD code (and, as I noted, MS-stuff and Linux have no problems with it). I'm no expert in any of this (DOS, file systems, ...). And, I think it was Terry Lambert who was suggesting a possible connection between having the FIPS-shrunk DOS slice before my BSD slice. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 11:12:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01407 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01396 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA07490; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:12:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199601031601.RAA15122@masi.ibp.fr> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 96 17:02:16 0100 From: Bruno Bretelle Organization: MASI Laboratory (Paris, France) X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Fast Lan support X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ReSent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:12:10 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: John Fieber ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Are there FreeBsd drivers for Ethernet 100, FDDI, or ATM Cards? And which ones? Thank you and a happy new year! Bruno Bretelle - Distributed Systems Team - MASI Laboratory UPMC - PARIS, FRANCE -- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 11:15:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01546 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.easy.re.kr (ns.easy.re.kr [203.241.171.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01532 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from moonhunt@localhost) by ns.easy.re.kr (8.6.12H1/8.6.12) id EAA03337 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:14:18 +0900 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:14:18 +0900 From: Hyun-Seog Ryu Message-Id: <199601031914.EAA03337@ns.easy.re.kr> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to use CD-R in FBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, FreeBSD users and developers, I'm maintain FreeBSD machine as news & ftp server. And I have PHILIPS CDD 522 CD-Recorder. Am I use this CD-R in my FreeBSD machine??? But when I add it to my FreeBSD system, I got the kernel message as below. Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: ahc1:A:6: refuses syncronous negotiation. Using asyncronous transfers Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: (ahc1:6:0): "IMS CDD522/10 1.06" type 4 removable SCSI 1 Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: worm0(ahc1:6:0): Write-Once - UNTESTED Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: worm0(ahc1:6:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: worm0(ahc1:6:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: worm0: oops not queued Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: with 1 2048 byte blocks. Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:20 Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: sctarg0(noadapter::): Processor Target Dec 20 15:11:28 ns /kernel: changing root device to sd0a Dec 20 15:11:26 ns named[71]: starting. named LOCAL-951116.090057 Thu Nov 16 09:00:57 1995 jkh@westhill.cdrom.com:/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Dec 20 15:11:26 ns named[72]: Ready to answer queries. Is this right?? And if use of this CD-R is available, how to use it??? ;> Please let me know... When I was search it at FAQ & Handbook, it is not found... Thank you for your reading... HyunSeog Ryu -- Name : Hyunseog Ryu(moonhunt@easy.re.kr) http://www.easy.re.kr/~moonhunt Tel : +82-2-884-0174 Fax : +82-2-884-0175 EASY Research Institute, 304-25,Shinrim 10-dong Kwanak-gu,Seoul,151-020,Korea For the better tommorow, for the better world!!! Cheers~~~~ ;> From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 11:27:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA02197 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02190 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id LAA29881; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:27:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA19454; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:26:27 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601031926.AA19454@tera.com> Subject: Re: User-level and administrative diff's between BSDi and FreeBSD? To: goerzenj@complete.org (John Goerzen) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:26:40 -0800 (PST) Cc: d_burr@ix.netcom.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "John Goerzen" at Jan 2, 96 10:55:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to John Goerzen: > > I may be wrong, but I thought that Taylor UUCP could be configured (or > compiled) to use HDB configs. > If you get the latest Taylor src, v1.06.1, you'll see that you _can_ get HDB-style behavior to at least some degree. Ian Taylor has a matching v1.06.1 set of docs in all flavors that are honestly worth reading. Usually the code is easier to understand than the docs, but here the documentation is pretty good. > > On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Donald Burr wrote: > > > I just picked up the latest edition of "UNIX System Administration > > Handbook" (an EXCELLENT reference text, btw; I'll be sending highest > > kudos to the authors). > > > > While it doesn't go into details about any of the Free*BSD's nor Linux, > > it DOES go into details of a lot of the workstation OS's, including HPUX, > > Solaris, ... as well as BSDi on 80x86's. > > > > So, my question is: how "similar" or "dissimilar" is BSDi from FreeBSD? > > in terms of the user interface, system admin tools, programming > > environment, etc.? (i.e. are most of the user-land commands available in > > FreeBSD, available on BSDi and do they work similarly? And > > vice-versa)... well, you get the idea. > > > > I know there'll be differences, and I'm expecting that: f.e. I know that > > BSDi uses its own UUCP derived from the original BSD UUCP, with its own > > enhancements, while FreeBSD uses Taylor UUCP with the weird Taylor-style > > config files (I much prefer standard HDB configs, but that's another > > story). So I'm not expecting them to be THE SAME. > > > > I just figured that BSDi, since both it and FreeBSD were based on the > > 4.4-lite (please correct me if I'm wrong on this), that they should be, > > in large part, fairly similar. Of course, I've never used BSDi, so I > > can't say this with conviction. That's why I'm asking you folks :) > > BSDI may (??) be based on the 4.4alpha release of BSD which had a lot of the old (proprietary) code. As far as Taylor uucp is concerned, it is more flexible in many ways than the older HDB version. I'm used to HDB myself, but lacking the $140,000 for the UNIX source, I'm ready for alternative ways. gary kline PS: Last night, I got Taylor dialing in to my mail site, (!) When I've figured out more features, I'll publish my few pages of HowTo's. Or make them available. > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 11:55:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA03889 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:55:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch-2.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.5.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03884 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from columbia.cs.ubc.ca (binhdo@columbia.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.4.15]) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA08340 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:54:42 -0800 Received: (binhdo@localhost) by columbia.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA16281 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:54:39 -0800 From: "Binh Do" Message-Id: <9601031154.ZM16279@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:54:38 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Newbie's questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thank you for the answers concerning /DOS partitions. I have a couple of questions: 1. Sometime when I boot the machine everything works OK until login prompt appears and I cannot type in anything, so I have to reboot it. The second time is always OK. 2. I tried to setup user PPP as the handbook suggested. When typing in ppp and then term (or dial mysite), I get "cannot open modem" error message. If you encounter the problems above, could you please help? Thank you. -- Binh Do Department Of Computer Science University Of BC, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 12:46:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07611 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcb01a.cwi.net (root@dcb01a.cwi.net [205.136.1.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07605 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from acog.com (acog.com [205.136.111.253]) by dcb01a.cwi.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA20884 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:45:55 -0500 Received: by acog.com with Microsoft Mail id <30EB1637@acog.com>; Wed, 03 Jan 96 15:50:15 PST From: Mark Graves To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Stupid X11R6 Question Date: Wed, 03 Jan 96 15:41:00 PST Message-ID: <30EB1637@acog.com> Encoding: 20 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, it's that old Linux user again... When running X Windows with a Logitech 3 button mouse, I can't seem to move the windows. On my old system when I place the X cursor on the edge of the window, it would allow me to click and drag the Window to another location on the screen. How do I do this with the X Windows released with FreeBSD? For example, if i enter "xclock &" on the xconsole screen, xclock plops down right on top of it. I would like to move it to the corner of the screen. Also, I'm used to right-clicking on the screen and getting an options menu. Was I running a different X Windows interface? Any suggestions? Thanks Mark Graves American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 12:53:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08220 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:53:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08215 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00256; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:52:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:52:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jason Antheunis cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dual boot FreeBSD and Win95 In-Reply-To: <30EA56EF.1573@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Jason Antheunis wrote: > I am wondering if I can dual boot FreeBSD and Win95 from the same > harddrive? Am I able to use a boot manager or how should I go about > this. Any help would be appresiated. I have already ordered FreeBSD from > CDROM.COM and so I would like to use both. Please help. Sure can. Just use FreeBSD's boot manager (or reinstall Win95's after you finish installing FreeBSD). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 13:07:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09194 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09188 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00282; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:08:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux Emulation now operational! :) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Sorry to make a bunch of you labor out there making howto's on this :), but I got it. I must have had some stale source in /usr/src/sys, because `rm -r /usr/src/sys' and reinstalling from the ftp site fixed it. When I wrote my last message, I had recompiled but forgotten to copy the new kernel back. Dooh! In any case, it IS working! I am thinking of working up some formal docs on how to get linuxemu up, and hopefully get it added to places like the FAQ or Handbook. Thanks all! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 13:10:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09447 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoom.bga.com (root@zoom.bga.com [198.3.118.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09441 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from maria-6c.ip.realtime.net (maria-6c.ip.realtime.net [204.181.160.67]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA16855 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:10:25 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:10:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199601032110.PAA16855@zoom.bga.com> X-Sender: dhbrown@bga.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: dhbrown@bga.com (David H. Brown) Subject: Kernel compile problem Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi! Finally got around to trying to compile "my own" kernel, though not a compiler jockey. Guess what... it didn't compile--or maybe it did. This is recently installed 2.1 RELEASE, with the install option up to "kernel sources and compile" or something like that. I have successfully compiled the bash package... this was my next project, as the GENERIC kernel shipped with the 2.1 RELEASE install doesn't seem to like my IDE CDROM Having started with "make", the compile proceeds for about an hour. Then: loading kernel kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment ncr.o: Undefined symbol '_pci_map_mem' referenced from text segment ncr.o: Undefined symbol '_pci_conf_read' referenced from text segment ncr.o: Undefined symbol '_pci_map_int' referenced from text segment ncr.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_alloc_bus' referenced from text segment ...... aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_alloc_bus' referenced from text seg ...... *** Error code 1 Stop. So all may have compiled, but didn't like what got compiled. The only change to the GENERIC configuration that I made (other than commenting out unwanted devices) was the change in port assignment for the ethernet adapter. My config file is as follows: ------------------------------------------------------------------ # # EDGEROCK -- My 486 machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: EDGEROCK,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" ident EDGEROCK maxusers 10 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 #options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 #controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #controller ncr0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr #controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr #controller scbus0 #device sd0 #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console #device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr #device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr #device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device lpt2 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Brown Austin, TX From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 13:12:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09532 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from gvr.win.tue.nl (root@gvr.win.tue.nl [131.155.210.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09519 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by gvr.win.tue.nl (8.6.10/1.53) id WAA28195; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:10:07 +0100 From: guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij) Message-Id: <199601032110.WAA28195@gvr.win.tue.nl> Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? To: yuri@aebeard.technion.ac.il Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:10:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: taob@io.org, frank.kelly@sable.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Yuri Gindin" at Dec 30, 95 04:09:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > This is not true, I have quotas not on the root filesystem, and it works > OK, but I heard, that it's impossible to make quotas on root filesystem. > It used to be impossible to run quotas on more then 1 filesystem. Is this still true? -Guido From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 13:13:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09785 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:13:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from icefog.polarnet.com (root@icefog.polarnet.com [204.119.24.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09752 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from icefog.polarnet.com (corellg@icefog.polarnet.com [204.119.24.13]) by icefog.polarnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA17536 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:30:14 -0900 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:30:13 -0900 (AKST) From: "Gary B. Corell" To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Netscape & Mosaic Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know where I might find the 20.b version of Netscape for the ports in 2.1R? I tried & tried to port that in till I noticed it was 20b2 version and not the 20b4 version that's on netscape and all the mirrors listed in the Makefile. I tried also to change the Makefile ( in /usr/ports/distfile/netscape which I copied from /cdrom/ports/net/netscape2 ) and even changed the md5 in the files directory to make it happy but to no avail. that thing was pulling stuff from I know not where! I'm still a novice at this version of Unix too. I have O'Reily's make book but this is much different or much more involved for my simple brain. I would also like to install the later ( 2.7b ) version of Mosaic instead of 2.6 . The makefile in ports doesn't want to play with it tho & I'm not educated enough to change the makefile. Thanks for you help! BTW, I did try ALL the nescape mirrors in the Makefile, & They all had the 20b4 version. Again thanks! --- Gary B. Corell Powered by FreeBSD 2.1 corellg@polarnet.com Bato Bato sa langit http://www.imagi.net/~corellg/ ang tamaay huag kang magagalit http://www2.polarnet.com/~corellg/ <<<< preferred new address From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 13:20:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA10405 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10294 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00298; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:18:43 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:18:43 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Robert Nordier cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP glitches In-Reply-To: <199601031103.NAA00179@eac.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > Thanks very much for the info. No prob. > I think I tried to do pretty much what you have done in ppp.conf. I also > found that ppp.linkup didn't seem to be working. I started out with I'm not 100% on the format of ppp.linkup, so I can't help much here. Looking at it, I would guess that the label: corresponds to an address rather than a dial label (like my_isp). > ifconfig_tun0="inet me.my_isp.com 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00" I've been telling people that this is unnecessary, since ppp will handle it by itself. I don't have a line like this, and it works OK. > I'm not sure whether the "ifconfig_tun0" line should even be there, since > it is just a lie, anyway, and "routed" times out the route and gets rid > of it after a few minutes. I'm also not sure whether I want or need > "multicast". Multicast is only if you're doing mbone stuff, otherwise you can ignore it. > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 196.7.101.66 UGc 0 0 tun0 > 10.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 0 lo0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 > 196.7.101.66 196.7.101.141 UH 1 0 tun0 > 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 > > After a ppp close, I'm left with > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 10.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 0 lo0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 > 196.7.101.66 196.7.101.141 UH 1 0 tun0 > 196.7.101.141 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 Hm. I get the same thing happening on this line here -- the former default route now going to lo0. I started deleting any extraneous routes to lo0 before dialing up, nothing should be pointing to it other than 127.0.0.1, IMHO. > 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 > Before connecting again, I su to root and run a script containing > > netstat -r | grep '^[0-9]\{1,3\}\.' | awk '{print $1;}' | xargs -n1 route delete > route flush > > which leaves me with > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > 224 10.0.0.1 US 0 0 tun0 > > However, there must be something amiss somewhere. If I now do > > dial my_psp > > again, it works only about 70 percent of the time. Otherwise I get a message > > rtinit: wrong ifa (...) was (...) Oh no, not this one. Someone else was getting this and I don't remember what was the cause. > I feel sure I must have something set up wrong ... or maybe various things > set up wrong. :-) After you get ppp up, the next fight is the routing tables. It always is. :) > Surely it should be possible to say (in effect) "OK, just forget all routing > info from that last session." If that could happen, I think things would be > OK, because it _always_ works correctly the first session. I haven't an idea if this is possible. You might try to see where everything is going after you dial up; do netstat -rn, ping some site a bunch, and do netstat -rn again and see what 'use' numbers increase. This is more to get an idea of where everything is going. > All this is a lot to bother anyone with, so feel free to >/dev/null it > if too much trouble. :-) I am no good at routing. It takes me forever whenever the routing gets messed up. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 13:22:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA10629 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10610 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA13966; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:05:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:05:39 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: questions Subject: LAT support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I know, I know... could I come up with anything more obscure? Someone just dropped an old DECserver 200/MC on my lap that would be nice to use for some cruddy little dialup, but it (a) needs a loader for the software when it boots up and (2) only does LAT connection. Anyone ever program any LAT support for FreeBSD? (I will refrain from holding my head underwater waiting for a resounding "YES!") From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 14:05:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA17004 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from oddis.cyber-naut.com (oddis.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16973 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by oddis.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA03059 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:58:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:58:09 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199601032158.OAA03059@oddis.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question about the CDRom Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a client that is buying the FreeBSD Cd-Rom from Walnut Creek. One problem, he doesn't have SCSI CD-Rom drive. He says it isn't IDE either. I was thinking ATAPI, he said it had a 16 pin ribbon ccable. Anyway, saying this is ATAPI, what are the chances that it will install (being ATAPI suport is still experimental) correctly? I figure he'll have problems anyway because he is a novice UNIX user anyway. Thanks, Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 14:21:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA19650 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19636 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:21:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZKRGR27BK8WWSBQ@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Jan 1996 14:20:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 14:20:48 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Yet Another Question (tcp-ip services) To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZKRGR2B368WWSBQ@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks everyone for helping me with the default shell changing question. I definitely know how to take care of that from now on. :) Now, I have another question. My system right now is not connected to any network, though normally it is connected to a 10BaseT Ethernet Network with a connection to the net (College Network). So even though I am not connected, when I installed FreeBSD I specified default IP addresses such as DNS, Router, and my own IP address - I know these by heart. Now ;) when I was running Linux, if I started the system up without being connected to the network, no proglem. BUT, when I start up my system - the first thing wrong is that when it boots it freezes during a point where it states the IP address I gave it and the netmask. Is it here trying to resolve net addresses with the DNS? Anyway - so then also during the boot-up, when it tries to start the sendmail daemon it again freezes. Both times I ^C to continue. After the system is up, I can not run pine, only "mail". Pine freezes. Furthermore, I can not telnet to my own machine by either typing a) telnet machine.domain.edu b) telnet localhost c) telnet 127.0.0.1 All three times it freezes and I have to ^C. Finally, as another newbie question, does the MH mail handling system operate as a replacement for sendmail, or is it an addition to it? Thanks again everyone. John From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 14:42:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22611 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-13.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22590 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00990; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:46:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:45:59 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Ports cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Netscape 2.0b3 and Java Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk well, to celebrate (finally!) getting the Linux emulator to run, I decided the hell with the hourly charges my ISP charges and download the latest Netscape (2.0b3) for Linux... with Java support. Got it installed, and running. Boy is it nice. Well, almost. Whenever I try accessing a Java site (e.g. http://java.sun.com), I get: EMT trap (core dumped) Is this a known problem? Should I stick with something "safer" like maybe 2.0b1 or b2 of Netscape? (i.e. did b3 introduce some obscure bug that causes it to die under FreeBSD?) Other Linux progs like DOOM and even text-mode stuff (like ls, cat, etc.) work beautifully. I'm running 2.1.0-RELEASE on a 486/66 with 16 MB of RAM, if that matters. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 14:55:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA25342 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25323 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA29209; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:58:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:58:09 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601032258.PAA29209@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Don Whiteside Cc: questions Subject: Re: LAT support In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Someone just dropped an old DECserver 200/MC on my lap that would be > nice to use for some cruddy little dialup, but it (a) needs a loader for > the software when it boots up and (2) only does LAT connection. Anyone > ever program any LAT support for FreeBSD? Nope, and if I remember correctly DEC won't release the specs on LAT, so it will probably never happen. DECnet may happen, LAT won't. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:03:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA26896 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA26870 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA15991; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:53:52 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601032253.PAA15991@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? To: scott@statsci.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:53:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601031906.LAA02229@block.statsci.com> from "Scott Blachowicz" at Jan 3, 96 11:06:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > heard lots of folks saying that the msdos filesystem code in FreeBSD is > > not correct, and the reason I heard was because it tried to do buffering > > of the msdos stuff, but the locking mechanism was incorrect, causing > > errors to propagate. This is supposed to be most obvious when doing mv > > commands. I think you could get either Justin Gibbs or Terry (I forget > > his lastname, but you know who I mean) to explain it more authoritatively. > > I've brought this up a couple times before and the result of the > discussions was that there seemed to be a connection between using FIPS to > shrink the DOS slice and the BSD corruptions I was seeing. I believe the > FIPS author was involved in some of the discussion (though possibly not on > the FreeBSD lists??). I think it had something to do with changing the > size of the used portion of the FAT without changing the size of the table > itself (there's a check for this sort of condition in the mtools package > that the FIPS author said shouldn't be made because the condition is > legitimate). That's something that appears to be "legal" but confuses the > FreeBSD code (and, as I noted, MS-stuff and Linux have no problems with > it). I'm no expert in any of this (DOS, file systems, ...). > > And, I think it was Terry Lambert who was suggesting a possible connection > between having the FIPS-shrunk DOS slice before my BSD slice. I was repeating someone else. I believe (from looking at the code) that the expected cluster size is used with the expected cluster count for the disk size. When the cluster size is higher than expected, you get "extra" clusters written out, since it uses the calculated rather than the empirical cluster size/count to write out empirically sized clusters. When this happens (if it happens), you will get clusters of the expected cluster size written out to the expected disk locations, which will be off the end of the disk for the calculated count vs. the empirical size. This will have the effect of corrupting the partition following the DOS partition in the expected cluster locations as if it had been written by DOS on a larger partition. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:07:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA27832 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from oddis.cyber-naut.com (oddis.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27795 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by oddis.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA03156 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:00:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:00:29 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199601032300.QAA03156@oddis.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question about 'serial' cdrom. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am forwarding this message to the mailing list. This involves FreeBSD: "I called the company that made it. Mine is a Serial CD-Rom, This is cuz the cdrom runs at 300kbs which a short serial line can handle. If Unix can handle a serial modem, shouldnt it be able to run a serial cd????" I think the 'company' refers to Walnut Creek. Anyway, could somebody please answer his question? Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:08:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA28035 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28001 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA23417; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:08:09 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA18183; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:08:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:08:06 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601032308.AA18183@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: MGraves@acog.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <30EB1637@acog.com> (message from Mark Graves on Wed, 03 Jan 96 15:41:00 PST) Subject: Re: Stupid X11R6 Question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Graves writes: Mark> When running X Windows with a Logitech 3 button mouse, I Mark> can't seem to move the windows. You just need to configure your window manager so that a ``button-3 down'' on a ``window frame'' or ``window title'' starts a ``move operation'' or a ``user-defined raise-and-move'' function. You specify that in the start-up file for the window manager. The syntax for that specification depends on the window manager you're running. And the start-up file in which you place it depends on the window manager you're running. Mark> Also, I'm used to right-clicking on the screen and getting Mark> an options menu. Was I running a different X Windows Mark> interface? You bet. Mark> Any suggestions? Customize the start-up file for the window manager. I can help you with that, if you tell me what window manager you're using. (I don't know which one comes with FreeBSD by default---probably twm. See the man page for twm). -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flipper, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flipper, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:36:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA04933 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:36:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA04705 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA02189; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:20:38 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:20:37 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Stephen Hovey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NON Adaptec PCI SCSI ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Stephen Hovey wrote: > Can anyone recommend a few good, known bug free with freebsd 2.0.5R+ pci > scsi controller cards? Specifically by modem/manufacturer? (and not an > adaptec!) The FAQ lists the following as supported:- Buslogic BT-946, BT-956 NCR 53C810 based, 53C82x based I don't remember seeing reports of any problems with these, although I haven't seen any problems with my 2940 either! James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:37:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05112 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05083 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02060; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:09:42 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:09:41 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: francis yeung cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't shutdown In-Reply-To: <199512292007.UAA01413@fyeung5.netific.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, francis yeung wrote: > Due to some applications problems, I have to automatically > reboot my BSD 2.0.5 system every 4 hours. I have setup > a /bin/sh script to do "shutdown -r +1". The following > messages were displayed after 1 minutes: > > > Dec 27 20:31:32 sysx shutdown: reboot by root: > Dec 27 20:31:35 sysx syslogd: exiting on signal 15 > > > and then the system just hung there. It did not go into > disk resync and reboot at all. Is there anything relevant in /var/log/messages? James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:37:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05225 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05191 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02096; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:35:30 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:35:29 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Charlie Root cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reboot on install In-Reply-To: <199512302358.SAA04471@theway.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Charlie Root wrote: > When I boot up with the boot floppy it causes a reboot before I get the installation menu. I tried removing everything from the machine and replacing the video card, but nothing seems to change things. This problem also shows itself on another machine I have. Try playing around with the cache settings in the BIOS (after making a note of the current ones!) Presumably this is a machine with > 4MB? This is something else that changed between 2.0.5 and 2.1 (the OS still runs in 4MB, but the installation needs slightly more). James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:37:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05226 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05180 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from block.statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tXck5-000r3sC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:37 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by block.statsci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA03984; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:12 -0800 Message-Id: <199601032337.PAA03984@block.statsci.com> To: Terry Lambert cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 1996 15:53:51 -0700." <199601032253.PAA15991@phaeton.artisoft.com> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 15:37:11 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > I was repeating someone else. Seems that's a lot of my job...learning things so I can repeat them to others. :-)) > When this happens (if it happens), you will get clusters of the expected > cluster size written out to the expected disk locations, which will be > off the end of the disk for the calculated count vs. the empirical size. > > This will have the effect of corrupting the partition following the > DOS partition in the expected cluster locations as if it had been > written by DOS on a larger partition. Do those "clusters" get written out even when the msdosfs slice is mounted read-only? I was getting corruption even in that case. If it'd be useful, I could repeat my testing. My setup has changed from 2.0.5-RELEASE to 2.1.0-RELEASE recently. Boy was that wasy easy! Just upgraded from 2.0.5 to 2.1.0 lickety split. Only problem I've seen so far is that my modem keeps getting into a weird state with an unusual set of lights left on and getty keeping the port grabbed. Haven't gotten around to tracking THAT problem down (could've been some MS-stuff software that I installed that possibly managed to trash some modem settings in its online registration process? I don't know yet). Hmmm...maybe I'll have to go peruse the handbook to find dialin/out modem setup hints that I missed. So much playing...so little time... ramble... At any rate, I'd be willing to test out any candidate fixes (provided I have enough time to get a good system backup done :-)). Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:37:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05293 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05279 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id PAA16741 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA27729; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:36:35 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601032336.AA27729@tera.com> Subject: arrrgh, this was working Sunday... To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:36:48 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Last Sunday I managed to auto-retrieve the file cnews.tar.Z by typing ``make'' in the /cdrom/ports dir. Now, while trying to build elm, this happened: >> elm2.4.tar.Z doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://dsinc.myxa.com/pub/elm/ dsinc.myxa.com: gethostbyname herror (2): Host name lookup failure >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/distfiles/ ftp.freebsd.org: gethostbyname herror (2): Host name lookup failure >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retreive this >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles and try again. *** Error code 1 What did I do? I remember adding some lines to /etc/sysconfig and two new sites to /etc/resolv.conf. When I do a `ps ax' I see ncftp trying to retrieve the elm tar file... Ideas, net gurus??? gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:45:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA06965 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from eri.erinet.com (root@eri.erinet.com [198.6.245.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06952 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from weaverro.erinet.com by eri.erinet.com (8.6.12/EriNet) id SAA26084; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:47:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199601032347.SAA26084@eri.erinet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Weaver" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:44:39 +500 Subject: Install Help Needed X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Ron Weaver" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: urgent X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Questions, I'm having a *small* problem installing FreeBSD and could use a suggestion or three. I am attempting to install 2.1, and am having what I see as boot sector problems. I get "missing Operating System" when I boot. What I got : new Zeos Pantera 133 (yes!) 16 meg ram 2 WD31600 (1,6 gig) drives CDrom, Diamond Stealth 3400, Creative labs AWE32, Colorado T1000 28.8 modem, WIN95 (pre- and re- installed ;-| ) What I FTP'd : the entire Release 2.1 (is there another digit?) from FREEBSD. It ran just over 24 hours at 28.8 ... 300+ meg ... ugh, but I got it. How I partitioned : I partitioned the D drive for 775 meg for DOS, left the rest unused, presumably for FREEBSD. seemed to work. How it went: Ran rawrite and made a boot disk. Booted it and entered the setup. The first time I selected "Leave my boot sector alone". Allocated all free space on D to FreeBSD. Chose Auto in the Label Utility. Received messages that the filesystems could not be built. Rebooted, chose "Standard Boot Sector". Built a lotta stuff in the filesystems. Upon Reboot (no Floppy), got "missing Operating System". In a stroke of genius (for me), I ran fdisk, made my C: Dos partion ACTIVE, and life was good again (as far as Win 95 is concerned). Booted the floppy again. Chose Gimme the "Boot Manager". Same result. Read everything I could find (really). Still Stumped. I'd really like to leave the boot sector alone, and boot a floppy with *my* kernal when I want FreeBSD (probably safer) since I'll be running both, FreeBSD 20% of the time, Win95 80% (untill I get comfortable I suppose). What should I do ? Thanks in advance for any help. Telling me where to find my answer is a good answer (in case this is a real dumb problem). Ron Weaver *********************************************** Everyone needs something to believe in. I believe I'll have another beer. *********************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:46:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07128 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07104 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA02174; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:12:01 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:12:01 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Kyle Neisen cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Question... In-Reply-To: <01BAD710.C68A2220@stealth.bcl.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Kyle Neisen wrote: > First of all, the system I am using is a Dell Dimension XPS P120c with 16MB RAM, NEC CD-ROM Drive (Quad-Speed), and a #9FX Motion 771 graphics card. The question is, will FreeBSD (the latest release) work with this computer (like the X-Windows and will it support the CD-ROM and graphics card)? Thanks in advance... The video card is listed as one of those supported by the S3 driver. If the CD-ROM is an IDE type, you may have some trouble getting it set up, as the IDE CD-ROM support is currently only in alpha. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:46:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07181 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07161 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01384; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:07:42 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:07:42 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Barry Masterson cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: ppp from shell, & starting X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Barry Masterson wrote: [First question elided] > My second question has to do with running ppp from Xwindows. Currently > I have the ppp files in /usr/sbin, so, to run ppp, I run it as root. > Not a problem from the shell, I've got all of those vc's. > > However, I want to run X, ppp & netscape as a normal user. (ppp & netscape > work fine if I startx as root). > > Question 2: Can I simply place the ppp files: > > /usr/sbin > -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 86016 Nov 16 04:57 ppp > -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 61440 Nov 16 04:57 pppd > -r-xr-sr-x 1 bin kmem 12288 Nov 16 04:57 pppstats > > in my ~/home/bin directory, and expect it to run without any complaints. Possibly, but you really don't need to do this. Just start X as yourself and then get a root xterm (type 'su -' at the command prompt in an xterm and enter the root password when prompted). This will come in useful for any other admin-related tasks you may need/wish to perform while running X. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:48:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07561 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07518 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02148; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:59:03 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:59:03 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Michael Ryan cc: FreeBSD Support Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse and X Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Michael Ryan wrote: > (a) I'm trying to get a Logitech compatible mouse working > with XFree86. (It's a Compaq-branded mouse.) I've > rebuilt the kernel with the following lines in the config file: > options ALLOW_CONFLICT_IOADDR > device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 12 vector psmintr As this is a Logitech-compatible mouse, shouldn't you be using device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr instead? > The rebuild went fine. The following exists in /dev: > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 21, 1 Dec 30 17:25 /dev/psm0 > I can't read from the device. "cat" gives the following > error message: > # cat < /dev/psm0 > cat: stdin: Resource temporarily unavailable > > When I run "startx", the following message is among > the output generated: > Warning: unable to get status of mouse fd (Invalid argument) I suspect these are symptoms of using the wrong device and/or the wrong protocol in XF86Config. (Although trying to do a 'cat' on a PS/2 device doesn't work even if you've got everything else right, just to add to the fun 8-) > (b) Is Motif available? Yes, but at a price (~GBP100). A free clone called "LessTif" is in an advanced stage of development and is probably a better bet if you don't mind waiting a little. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 15:49:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07684 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07666 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:48:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01416; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:30:40 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:30:40 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Gary Kline cc: "Garrett A. Wollman" , jbarrm@panix.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp from shell, & starting X In-Reply-To: <9601012225.AA02267@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > Could you (or another network-savvy wizard) publish > sample /etc/hosts, /etc/sysconfig, and /etc/network > files? Else point me to a tutorial doc? I don't think I qualify as a network-savvy wizard, but here are the critical files from /etc that I use to connect with PPP. My machine is parody (193.128.6.83) and the machine I connect to is luggage (193.128.6.129). I don't run a name server on my machine, but rely on luggage to do this for me. However, this means the resolver needs some way of looking up luggage's IP address when I'm not connected to it. This is achieved by telling it to look in /etc/hosts first and to use BIND only if the machine it needs isn't in there. To do this, I have a /etc/host.conf file with the following:- hosts bind and luggage's details are in /etc/hosts, along with various other machines I might need when DNS isn't available:- 127.0.0.1 localhost 193.128.6.83 parody.tecc.co.uk 193.128.6.129 luggage.tecc.co.uk 193.128.6.145 handbag.tecc.co.uk [handbag is the news server I use, BTW] Finally, the resolver needs to know which domain we're in and where to find the nameserver - /etc/resolv.conf:- domain tecc.co.uk nameserver 193.128.6.129 And here's the Netconfig part of /etc/sysconfig, with the comments omitted for brevity:- hostname="parody.tecc.co.uk" tcp_extensions=YES network_interfaces="lo0" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" #static_routes="multicast loopback" #route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface ${hostname}" #route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" defaultrouter=NO routedflags=NO timedflags=NO xntpdflags="NO" tickadjflags="-Aq" ntpdate="NO" rwhod=NO sendmail_flags="-bd" amdflags="NO" nfs_client="NO" nfs_server="NO" nis_clientflags="NO" nis_ypsetflags="NO" nis_serverflags="NO" yppasswddflags="NO" namedflags="NO" pcnfsd=NO apache_httpd=NO xtend=NO dumpdev=/dev/sd0s1b savecore=YES kerberos_server=NO gateway=NO gated=NO check_quotas=NO accounting=NO Note that this is for a stand-alone machine - I had to return the other half of my network to its owner 8-( In particular, I run sendmail without the "-q" flag and run the queue as part of my PPP connection script instead. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 16:40:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA19131 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19108 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA16133; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:30:56 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601040030.RAA16133@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? To: scott@statsci.com Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:30:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, chuckr@glue.umd.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601032337.PAA03984@block.statsci.com> from "Scott Blachowicz" at Jan 3, 96 03:37:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > When this happens (if it happens), you will get clusters of the expected > > cluster size written out to the expected disk locations, which will be > > off the end of the disk for the calculated count vs. the empirical size. > > > > This will have the effect of corrupting the partition following the > > DOS partition in the expected cluster locations as if it had been > > written by DOS on a larger partition. > > Do those "clusters" get written out even when the msdosfs slice is mounted > read-only? I was getting corruption even in that case. If it'd be > useful, I could repeat my testing. There are cases where the in core vnode will be (incorrectly, IMO) marked for update. This occurs even on the FFS. The DOSFS code is not very robust in this regard... I believe the answer may be "yes". What I really need to do is buy another drive from Rod, install Win95 on the thing, and Frisbee it into my developement box so I can pound on a VFAT FS from scratch. I just haven't gotten around to doing this yet -- my own fault. Since I've been doing nothing but building BSD FS code on Win95 for the last 6 months or so, this would be pretty trivial for me to do. > At any rate, I'd be willing to test out any candidate fixes (provided I > have enough time to get a good system backup done :-)). If any of them come from me, expect a total FS rewrite to get them; I'm already pretty torn in the BSD department because the BSD model can't support multiple name spaces very well. I need a flat logical numeric namespace seperate from the inode numbering for internationalization of well known system files in any case. Consider a Samba server that is serving files to Win95 clients and you'll see the problem. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 16:55:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21326 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21320 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA06348; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:54:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:54:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: JOHN cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet Another Question (tcp-ip services) In-Reply-To: <01HZKRGR2B368WWSBQ@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > to my own machine by either typing > a) telnet machine.domain.edu > b) telnet localhost > c) telnet 127.0.0.1 > edit /etc/host.conf. it lists three methods for converting machine name to ip addresses (and the reverse). the three are: bind the domain name server daemon hosts your /etc/hosts file #nis sun's network information system (nee yellow pages) commented out with a "#" change the order to: hosts bind #nis edit /etc/hosts add information for your machine, like this: 127.0.0.1 Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM localhost 10.0.0.1 aspen 10.0.0.2 kooka 192.216.222.4 freefall.cdrom.com 198.138.38.7 kryten.woc.atinc.com kryten.atinc.com kryten > Finally, as another newbie question, does the MH mail handling system operate > as a replacement for sendmail, or is it an addition to it? mh is a mail reader. sendmail is a mail transfer agent, like your local postman and the rest of the postal service. only faster Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 16:56:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21545 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncd.com (firewall-user@welch.ncd.com [192.43.160.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21540 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by ncd.com; id RAA04663; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:23:38 -0800 Received: from z-code.z-code.com(192.82.56.21) by welch.ncd.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma004656; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:23:34 -0800 Received: from zolaris.z-code.com (zolaris.z-code.com [192.82.56.41]) by z-code.z-code.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11364; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:54:16 -0800 Received: by zolaris.z-code.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29103; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:52:04 -0800 From: "Ulf Zimmermann" Message-Id: <9601031652.ZM29101@zolaris.z-code.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:52:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) "arrrgh, this was working Sunday..." (Jan 3, 15:36) References: <9601032336.AA27729@tera.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline), questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: arrrgh, this was working Sunday... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 3, 15:36, Gary Kline wrote: > Subject: arrrgh, this was working Sunday... > > > Last Sunday I managed to auto-retrieve the file cnews.tar.Z > by typing ``make'' in the /cdrom/ports dir. Now, while trying > to build elm, this happened: > > >> elm2.4.tar.Z doesn't seem to exist on this system. > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://dsinc.myxa.com/pub/elm/ > dsinc.myxa.com: gethostbyname herror (2): Host name lookup failure > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/distfiles/ > ftp.freebsd.org: gethostbyname herror (2): Host name lookup failure > >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retreive this > >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > What did I do? I remember adding some lines to /etc/sysconfig and > two new sites to /etc/resolv.conf. When I do a `ps ax' I see > ncftp trying to retrieve the elm tar file... > > Ideas, net gurus??? > > gary kline >-- End of excerpt from Gary Kline Looks like you screwed up your /etc/resolv.conf. Check it, because in this file are the DNS servers for lookup. Ulf. -- Ulf Zimmermann, NCD Software, 101 Rowland Way, Suite 300, Novato, CA 94945 phone: 415-899-7941, email: ulf@z-code.ncd.com, phone-home: 510-865-0204 ====================================== FreeBSD 2.1.0 is available now! -------------------------------------- FreeBSD: Turning PCs into Workstations ====================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:08:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22315 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22310 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id RAA23271; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA00652; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:06:42 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601040106.AA00652@tera.com> Subject: Re: arrrgh, this was working Sunday... To: ulf@z-code.ncd.com (Ulf Zimmermann) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:06:55 -0800 (PST) Cc: kline@tera.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9601031652.ZM29101@zolaris.z-code.com> from "Ulf Zimmermann" at Jan 3, 96 04:52:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Ulf Zimmermann: > > On Jan 3, 15:36, Gary Kline wrote: > > Subject: arrrgh, this was working Sunday... > > > > > > Last Sunday I managed to auto-retrieve the file cnews.tar.Z > > by typing ``make'' in the /cdrom/ports dir. Now, while trying > > to build elm, this happened: > > > > >> elm2.4.tar.Z doesn't seem to exist on this system. > > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://dsinc.myxa.com/pub/elm/ > > dsinc.myxa.com: gethostbyname herror (2): Host name lookup failure > > >> Attempting to fetch from > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/distfiles/ > > ftp.freebsd.org: gethostbyname herror (2): Host name lookup failure > > >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retreive this > > >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles and try again. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > What did I do? I remember adding some lines to /etc/sysconfig and > > two new sites to /etc/resolv.conf. When I do a `ps ax' I see > > ncftp trying to retrieve the elm tar file... > > > > Ideas, net gurus??? > > > > gary kline > >-- End of excerpt from Gary Kline > > > Looks like you screwed up your /etc/resolv.conf. Check it, because in this file > are the DNS servers for lookup. > This was my first thought. I *had* the following in /etc/resolv.conf: # # resolv.conf :: created on 18dec95 # domain thought.org # nameserver 158.152.1.193 nameserver 158.152.1.65 Then last night added two line, which I have since commented out: # # added 02jan96 :: # ###nameserver 192.135.189.20 ###nameserver 192.135.189.10 :: 03jan96 Do I have to reboot to re-initialize the setup? Things still fail even thought I've yanked the bottom lines.... Thanks for the tip; sorry to spend the bandwidth. gary From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:08:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22374 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:08:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from eri.erinet.com (root@eri.erinet.com [198.6.245.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22358 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from weaverro.erinet.com by eri.erinet.com (8.6.12/EriNet) id UAA01113; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:11:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199601040111.UAA01113@eri.erinet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Weaver" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:07:57 +500 Subject: (Fwd) Re: Install Help Needed Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Forwarded message: From: Self To: Jaye Mathisen Subject: Re: Install Help Needed Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:38:54 +500 > > Install a small DOS partition on your boot disk (1-2MB's). Then boot > FreeBSD, and let FBSD read the geometry from the DOS partition table. > Then you can remove it, or just leave it htere since it's so small, and > everything should proceed pretty smoothly after that. > > Jaye, Thanks for the quick reply, but : Duh! you mean on my C: drive, of course ? Should I use FIPS, so I don't have to restore the 600 mega stuff already there ? Thanks again. Ron Weaver *********************************************** Everyone needs something to believe in. I believe I'll have another beer. *********************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:31:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA24392 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24371 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id UAA28267; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:29:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:29:23 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: James Raynard cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: ppp from shell, & starting X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > Question 2: Can I simply place the ppp files: [...] > > in my ~/home/bin directory, and expect it to run without any complaints. > > Possibly, but you really don't need to do this. Just start X as yourself > and then get a root xterm (type 'su -' at the command prompt in an xterm > and enter the root password when prompted). This will come in useful for > any other admin-related tasks you may need/wish to perform while running X. > > James That looks like a good solution. I'll give it a try. I did however fix most of the problems that I listed in that original letter. To start ppp from X, I "su" (for good luck), and cd to /usr/sbin, then: % ./ppp It works. The 'rtinit''wrong ifa' message I was getting when I first started ppp was solved by UnCommenting the 'ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost"' line in /etc/sysconfig. I don't remember just why I commented out that line originally, but with it now uncommented, I haven't gotten the 'rtinit' message, ( did get ' SIOCAIFADDR: file exists', but I'm not too worried about that one at the moment). Anyway, I can now startx after a ppp (text based shell) session without rebooting. UnCommenting that line solved a few problems and eliminated a few boot time error messages. Thanks for writing. Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:39:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25150 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25145 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00277; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:39:17 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:39:16 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone got these nifty Symbios controllers? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I'm looking for someone, somewhere, who can get a hold of one of the fabled Symbios controllers. I spent this afternoon (and several $$$) calling around, and NOBODY HAS ANY! Now, I know someone in here can get them, or knows of who to call. If you could contact me, I would be eternally grateful. [ I need the sym8150sp, the bios version. ] Thank you SOOO much!! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:40:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25269 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.bbcc.ctc.edu (ZEUS.BBCC.CTC.EDU [134.39.180.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25263 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by zeus.bbcc.ctc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02265; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:42:49 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:42:49 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Reply-To: chrisc@MAIL.bbcc.ctc.edu Organization: Big Bend Community College From: Chris Coleman To: James FitzGibbon Subject: RE: Network Card id code Cc: , Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue Jan 2 08:16:27 1996 James FitzGibbon wrote: >>I've got a system running with FreeBSD that has an unknown PCI ethernet >adapter in it. It's not detected by anything in the GENERIC kernel under >2.1R or 2.2-current. The card is pretty generic, supporting BNC and >10BaseT. It has a "Runs with Novell"-type sticker on the main chip. > >During bootup, it's identified on the PCI bus as : > >pci0:20: vendor=0x10ec, device=0x8029, class=network (ethernet) [no >driver assigned] > map(10): io(ff80) > >Can someone with a generic PCI card do a boot -v and compare what they >get to help me out? > >Thanks. > >j. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:42:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25397 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:42:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.bbcc.ctc.edu (ZEUS.BBCC.CTC.EDU [134.39.180.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25375 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by zeus.bbcc.ctc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02268; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:44:53 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:44:53 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Reply-To: chrisc@MAIL.bbcc.ctc.edu Organization: Big Bend Community College From: Chris Coleman To: James FitzGibbon Subject: RE: Network Card id code Cc: , Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue Jan 2 08:16:27 1996 James FitzGibbon wrote: >>I've got a system running with FreeBSD that has an unknown PCI ethernet >adapter in it. It's not detected by anything in the GENERIC kernel under >2.1R or 2.2-current. The card is pretty generic, supporting BNC and >10BaseT. It has a "Runs with Novell"-type sticker on the main chip. > >During bootup, it's identified on the PCI bus as : > >pci0:20: vendor=0x10ec, device=0x8029, class=network (ethernet) [no >driver assigned] > map(10): io(ff80) > >Can someone with a generic PCI card do a boot -v and compare what they >get to help me out? > >Thanks. > >j. mine says 'pci0:3: Intel Corporation, device=0x1227, class=network (ethernet) [no driver assigned] I hope this helps, its all mine says, its a 100mb intel ethernet express, I hope they get a driver soo n. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:43:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25454 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25449 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:43:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id RAA25395; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA01597; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:42:11 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601040142.AA01597@tera.com> Subject: Re: ppp from shell, & starting X To: fqueries@parody.tecc.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:42:23 -0800 (PST) Cc: kline@tera.com, wollman@lcs.mit.edu, jbarrm@panix.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "James Raynard" at Jan 3, 96 09:30:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to James Raynard: > > On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Could you (or another network-savvy wizard) publish > > sample /etc/hosts, /etc/sysconfig, and /etc/network > > files? Else point me to a tutorial doc? > > I don't think I qualify as a network-savvy wizard, but here are the > critical files from /etc that I use to connect with PPP. My machine > is parody (193.128.6.83) and the machine I connect to is luggage > (193.128.6.129). Thanks for this information. It will serve as a benchmark. A starting place. > > I don't run a name server on my machine, but rely on luggage to do this > for me. However, this means the resolver needs some way of looking up > luggage's IP address when I'm not connected to it. This is achieved by > telling it to look in /etc/hosts first and to use BIND only if the > machine it needs isn't in there. > > To do this, I have a /etc/host.conf file with the following:- > > hosts > bind > > and luggage's details are in /etc/hosts, along with various other > machines I might need when DNS isn't available:- > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 193.128.6.83 parody.tecc.co.uk > 193.128.6.129 luggage.tecc.co.uk > 193.128.6.145 handbag.tecc.co.uk > > [handbag is the news server I use, BTW] > > Finally, the resolver needs to know which domain we're in and where to > find the nameserver - /etc/resolv.conf:- > > domain tecc.co.uk > nameserver 193.128.6.129 > > And here's the Netconfig part of /etc/sysconfig, with the comments > omitted for brevity:- > > hostname="parody.tecc.co.uk" > tcp_extensions=YES > network_interfaces="lo0" > ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" > > #static_routes="multicast loopback" > #route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface ${hostname}" > #route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" Why do you have the above 3 lines commented out? Or, more to the point, what's the purpose of multicast and loopback? > > defaultrouter=NO > routedflags=NO > timedflags=NO > xntpdflags="NO" > tickadjflags="-Aq" > ntpdate="NO" > rwhod=NO > > sendmail_flags="-bd" > amdflags="NO" > nfs_client="NO" > nfs_server="NO" > nis_clientflags="NO" > nis_ypsetflags="NO" > nis_serverflags="NO" > yppasswddflags="NO" > namedflags="NO" > pcnfsd=NO > apache_httpd=NO > xtend=NO > dumpdev=/dev/sd0s1b > savecore=YES > kerberos_server=NO > gateway=NO > gated=NO > check_quotas=NO > accounting=NO > > Note that this is for a stand-alone machine - I had to return the other > half of my network to its owner 8-( In particular, I run sendmail without > the "-q" flag and run the queue as part of my PPP connection script > instead. > My BSD system is stand-alone too. I work about 50% remote, telecommuting. Awhile back, several days ago I was able to get mail over my PPP link (somehow) from work (tera.com) to my home system, (tao.thought.org). As of this morning I see that this isn't working. I imagine that this is part of my sendmail.cf setup. I've been working on getting Taylor uucp working so that when I am _not_ working via PPP that mail will get across via uucp. Can I set it up so that mail will be received/sent across when I am connected by PPP *and* by uucp? Or is this too much to expect? Thanks again; I'm taking notes!! gary > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:44:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25503 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25467 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16387; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:34:12 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601040134.SAA16387@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: LAT support To: nate@rocky.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:34:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: freelist@elf.kendall.mdcc.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601032258.PAA29209@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Jan 3, 96 03:58:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Someone just dropped an old DECserver 200/MC on my lap that would be > > nice to use for some cruddy little dialup, but it (a) needs a loader for > > the software when it boots up and (2) only does LAT connection. Anyone > > ever program any LAT support for FreeBSD? > > Nope, and if I remember correctly DEC won't release the specs on LAT, so > it will probably never happen. > > DECnet may happen, LAT won't. On the other hand, this is a relatively simple box to trace out, and you can use the 68k version of GAS to write download code for it if you have got DECNet up enough to answer MOP-MOM request (Maintenance Operations Protocol, "boot me"). If you burn your own prom, you can even put a version of KA9Q on the thing and have it download via bootp. I am too old to remember everything involved, so don't ask. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:47:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25640 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:47:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25634 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16410; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:38:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601040138.SAA16410@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Netscape 2.0b3 and Java To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:38:00 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Jan 3, 96 02:45:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > well, to celebrate (finally!) getting the Linux emulator to run, I > decided the hell with the hourly charges my ISP charges and download the > latest Netscape (2.0b3) for Linux... with Java support. > > Got it installed, and running. Boy is it nice. Well, almost. Whenever I > try accessing a Java site (e.g. http://java.sun.com), I get: > > EMT trap (core dumped) > > Is this a known problem? Should I stick with something "safer" like > maybe 2.0b1 or b2 of Netscape? (i.e. did b3 introduce some obscure bug > that causes it to die under FreeBSD?) I believe you need the need signal code recently checked into -current. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:50:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25823 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25818 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16399; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:36:07 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601040136.SAA16399@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? To: guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:36:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: yuri@aebeard.technion.ac.il, taob@io.org, frank.kelly@sable.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601032110.WAA28195@gvr.win.tue.nl> from "Guido van Rooij" at Jan 3, 96 10:10:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > This is not true, I have quotas not on the root filesystem, and it works > > OK, but I heard, that it's impossible to make quotas on root filesystem. > > It used to be impossible to run quotas on more then 1 filesystem. Is this still > true? I don't think so. Quotas wants to be a seperate FS layer anyway. To avoid direct address bypassing of quotas, you'd have to fix the mount order and FS recognition code if you did this though. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:53:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25983 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25965 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA27646; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:54:47 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:54:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Netscape 2.0b3 and Java In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > Got it installed, and running. Boy is it nice. Well, almost. Whenever I > try accessing a Java site (e.g. http://java.sun.com), I get: > > EMT trap (core dumped) Are you running in 16bit color mode? A linux using friend (is this possible?) discovered that the Java stuff in NN doesn't work in 16bpp, only 8 and 32 (boggle that). | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:57:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA26132 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26127 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16430; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:46:47 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601040146.SAA16430@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Question about 'serial' cdrom. To: blair@oddis.cyber-naut.com (Blair Schmittel) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:46:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601032300.QAA03156@oddis.cyber-naut.com> from "Blair Schmittel" at Jan 3, 96 04:00:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am forwarding this message to the mailing list. This involves FreeBSD: > > "I called the company that made it. Mine is a Serial CD-Rom, This > is cuz the cdrom runs at 300kbs which a short serial line can handle. > If Unix can handle a serial modem, shouldnt it be able to run a serial > cd????" > > I think the 'company' refers to Walnut Creek. > > Anyway, could somebody please answer his question? No problem. Just write a block device driver that uses the tty port for the serial connector you connect it to and incorportates the protocol that the CDROM manufacturer has documented for you to talk to the thing. Then mount the block device you added after you fixed the MAKEDEV script to know about your new block device driver. --- As you can see, this is tantamount to asking "If Donald is the name of a duck, then all ducks are named Donald, right?" --- Probably you will need to copy the files to the DOS partition, build a boot disk with rawrite, and boot and mount the MS-DOS partition. This should work as long as you didn't use FIPS.EXE or PRESIZE.EXE to change the size of your DOS partition (or at least only changed it as much as would not cause a cluster size change). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:57:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA26180 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from eztravel.com (eztravel.com [205.179.24.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26161 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ez@localhost) by eztravel.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA02306; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:57:58 -0800 From: EZ Travel Message-Id: <199601040157.RAA02306@eztravel.com> Subject: Zappa or Endeavor PCI? To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:57:58 -0800 (PST) Cc: ez@eztravel.com, questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Which one is better? Since I'm upgrading my motherboard I can go with either one - is one any better that the other regarding FreeBSD? Thanks, Bob From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 17:59:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA26339 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26325 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id RAA26548; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA01997; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:57:13 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601040157.AA01997@tera.com> Subject: Re: PPP glitches To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:57:26 -0800 (PST) Cc: rnordier@iafrica.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 3, 96 01:18:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Doug White: > > > > > However, there must be something amiss somewhere. If I now do > > > > dial my_psp > > > > again, it works only about 70 percent of the time. Otherwise I get a message > > > > rtinit: wrong ifa (...) was (...) > > Oh no, not this one. Someone else was getting this and I don't remember > what was the cause. > > > I feel sure I must have something set up wrong ... or maybe various things > > set up wrong. :-) > > After you get ppp up, the next fight is the routing tables. It always > is. :) > This ``wrong ifa...'' is something I was able to trace my staring at the code and realizing that something was hosed in my /etc/hosts file. It takes careful experimentation, making only one change at a time. But after a few hours, you'll figure it out. gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 18:20:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27692 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27682 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id VAA21596; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id VAA12590; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:20:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:20:32 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@mocha.eng.umd.edu To: Gary Kline cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: arrrgh, this was working Sunday... In-Reply-To: <9601032336.AA27729@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Last Sunday I managed to auto-retrieve the file cnews.tar.Z > by typing ``make'' in the /cdrom/ports dir. Now, while trying > to build elm, this happened: > > >> elm2.4.tar.Z doesn't seem to exist on this system. > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://dsinc.myxa.com/pub/elm/ > dsinc.myxa.com: gethostbyname herror (2): Host name lookup failure > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/distfiles/ > ftp.freebsd.org: gethostbyname herror (2): Host name lookup failure > >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retreive this > >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > What did I do? I remember adding some lines to /etc/sysconfig and > two new sites to /etc/resolv.conf. When I do a `ps ax' I see > ncftp trying to retrieve the elm tar file... > > Ideas, net gurus??? > > gary kline Gary, I usually get this when I've screwed up my resolv.conf. You could check it pretty easily, by trying to ping one of the sites. Two very likley possibilities are that 1) you have a bad address for a nameserver and a backup nameserver in your /etc/resolv.conf or 2) your default route to the world, even for your access to your nameserver, is gone. Check the last by doing a netstat -rn (don't forget the -rn) to examine your routing tables. ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 18:44:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29588 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:44:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29583 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id SAA28863; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03101; Wed, 3 Jan 96 18:43:30 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601040243.AA03101@tera.com> Subject: Re: arrrgh, this was working Sunday... To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:43:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: kline@tera.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jan 3, 96 09:20:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Chuck Robey: > > On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > Last Sunday I managed to auto-retrieve the file cnews.tar.Z > > by typing ``make'' in the /cdrom/ports dir. Now, while trying > > to build elm, this happened: > > [[ ... ]] > > > > What did I do? I remember adding some lines to /etc/sysconfig and > > two new sites to /etc/resolv.conf. When I do a `ps ax' I see > > ncftp trying to retrieve the elm tar file... > > > > Ideas, net gurus??? > > > > gary kline > > Gary, I usually get this when I've screwed up my resolv.conf. You could > check it pretty easily, by trying to ping one of the sites. Two very > likley possibilities are that 1) you have a bad address for a nameserver > and a backup nameserver in your /etc/resolv.conf or 2) your default route > to the world, even for your access to your nameserver, is gone. Check > the last by doing a netstat -rn (don't forget the -rn) to examine your > routing tables. > Hm, well, I can't say that this makes much sense [[ the netstat -rn ]]. [418] netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 128.95.3.1 UGc 2 17 tun0 112 128.95.3.70 USc 1 0 tun0 128.95 128.95.3.96 UGc 0 0 tun0 128.95.3 128.95.3.96 UGc 3 4 tun0 128.95.3.71 128.95.3.96 UGH 0 0 tun0 128.95.3.96 128.95.3.70 UH 8 0 tun0 128.95.3.130 128.95.3.96 UGH 0 0 tun0 192.1.1 128.95.3.96 UGc 1 0 tun0 [419] The Gateway IP's are familiar. I just ping'd the nameservers and they are all reachable (at 18:30 PST). [440] cat resolv.conf # # resolv.conf :: created on 18dec95 # domain thought.org # nameserver 158.152.1.193 nameserver 158.152.1.65 # # added 02jan96 :: # ###nameserver 192.135.189.20 ###nameserver 192.135.189.10 :: 03jan96 [441] Should netstat list the nameservers? It looks like my net configuration is missing _something_. What, I don't know.... unless I am limited to only 2 nameservers. (??) ...Thanks. *sigh* gary From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 18:48:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29756 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.netcom.com (freebsd.netcom.com [198.211.79.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29750 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by freebsd.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id UAA09723; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:53:57 -0600 From: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Message-Id: <199601040253.UAA09723@freebsd.netcom.com> Subject: Re: LAT support (fwd) To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:53:57 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: Nate Williams > To: Don Whiteside > > Someone just dropped an old DECserver 200/MC on my lap that would be > > nice to use for some cruddy little dialup, but it (a) needs a loader for > > the software when it boots up and (2) only does LAT connection. Anyone > > ever program any LAT support for FreeBSD? > Nope, and if I remember correctly DEC won't release the specs on LAT, so > it will probably never happen. > DECnet may happen, LAT won't. Actually the specs for both DECNET, LAT, MAP, DDCMP, etc are fully available. I think there might also be an image for the DECserver-200 that supports TCP/IP in addition to (or rather than) LAT. In the heyday of VAX/VMS world domination there were a couple of third party LAT software systems and third party DECNET implementations. I remember setting up LAT on an SCO-Xenix system :-) Some of us reverse engineered the protocol using a combination of an article that appeared in the Digital Technical Journal and a few header files that appeared in older versions of Ultrix. Later programs were donated to DECUS which "sniffed" LAT protocol. Sources too. Now that the financial value of these implementations are rather grim...I wonder if it might be possible to get one of them into the public domain. I will check with one of the guys I know who implemented a portable LAT driver. We might wind up with another problem with the FreeBSD ethernet drivers. We would then be in a situation where we might have several packet drivers needing access to the same ethernet device. I could easily see TCP/IP, Novell, DECNET, LAD, and LAT running in some larger corporate environments. Under Windows, this is a nightmare with much gnashing of teeth. VMS handled this better, but you had to start the system in a particular order or things would not work. I wonder if FreeBSD's ethernet capability is ready for this scenario? Time to go read some code :-) Regards, Mark Hittinger Netcom/Dallas bugs@freebsd.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 18:56:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA00249 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00239 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA01042; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:56:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA00912; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:47:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601040447.UAA00912@corbin.Root.COM> To: chrisc@mail.bbcc.ctc.edu cc: James FitzGibbon , questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network Card id code In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 96 17:44:53 GMT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 20:47:42 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >mine says 'pci0:3: Intel Corporation, device=0x1227, class=network (ethernet) > [no driver assigned] > >I hope this helps, its all mine says, its a 100mb intel ethernet express, > I hope they get a driver soo >n. Are you sure that's "device=0x1227" and not "device=0x1229"? You're card might work with the "fxp" driver I wrote last month. Can you look at it and see what type of NIC it has (the big chip). My driver supports the 82557 chip. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 19:13:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA01088 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01078 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id WAA05988; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id WAA13142; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:13:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:13:29 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@mocha.eng.umd.edu To: Gary Kline cc: kline@tera.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: arrrgh, this was working Sunday... In-Reply-To: <9601040243.AA03101@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > According to Chuck Robey: > > > > On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Last Sunday I managed to auto-retrieve the file cnews.tar.Z > > > by typing ``make'' in the /cdrom/ports dir. Now, while trying > > > to build elm, this happened: > > > > [[ ... ]] > > > > > > > What did I do? I remember adding some lines to /etc/sysconfig and > > > two new sites to /etc/resolv.conf. When I do a `ps ax' I see > > > ncftp trying to retrieve the elm tar file... [some deletions] > > > > > > Ideas, net gurus??? > > Hm, well, I can't say that this makes much sense > [[ the netstat -rn ]]. Gary, the -rn forces netstat not to try to present the routes as names. If your connection to your nameserver is shaky, and you don't give the -rn flag, you'll just get a timeout, no data. Anyhow, using the 4 nameservers I see in your supplied list, I just did a nslookup on them, and 3 out of 4 failed. If you had a short term failure of all four when you had your lookup problem you noted above, well, that would do it. Maybe you might want to add a reliable backup namerserver to your list? [all the test data deleted] > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 19:31:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA02345 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA02335 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA06845 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:30:57 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 4 Jan 96 13:30:58 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 4 Jan 96 13:30:40 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:30:34 -1000 Subject: xntpd Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <1999C641D66@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm running xntpd on my 2.0.5 system to keep the time accurate. It has been doing that quite well, but /var/log/messages has lots of lines like "Jan 4 10:46:25 seraglio xntpd[6454] Previous time adjustment didn't complete" xntpd is started from rc with no switches, and the contents of /etc/ntp.conf are server ntp.ml.csiro.au prefer server ntp.cs.mu.oz.au server krefti.cc.uq.oz.au driftfile /etc/ntp.drift Have I done something wrong or is this the normal behavior? TIA Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 19:43:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA03678 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03667 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09895; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:15:16 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601040345.OAA09895@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Question about 'serial' cdrom. To: blair@oddis.cyber-naut.com (Blair Schmittel) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:15:15 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601032300.QAA03156@oddis.cyber-naut.com> from "Blair Schmittel" at Jan 3, 96 04:00:29 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Blair Schmittel stands accused of saying: > > I am forwarding this message to the mailing list. This involves FreeBSD: > "I called the company that made it. Mine is a Serial CD-Rom, This > is cuz the cdrom runs at 300kbs which a short serial line can handle. > If Unix can handle a serial modem, shouldnt it be able to run a serial > cd????" > I think the 'company' refers to Walnut Creek. It may also be the CDrom company. > Anyway, could somebody please answer his question? Yes; CDroms run at 300KB/s, or 2,400,000bps. Far too fast for a serial port. On top of that, CD drives don't look like modems. > Blair -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 19:46:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA04131 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:46:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04099 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09904; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:17:02 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601040347.OAA09904@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Question about the CDRom To: blair@oddis.cyber-naut.com (Blair Schmittel) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:17:01 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601032158.OAA03059@oddis.cyber-naut.com> from "Blair Schmittel" at Jan 3, 96 02:58:09 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Blair Schmittel stands accused of saying: > I have a client that is buying the FreeBSD Cd-Rom from Walnut Creek. > One problem, he doesn't have SCSI CD-Rom drive. He says it isn't IDE > either. I was thinking ATAPI, he said it had a 16 pin ribbon ccable. If it has a 16-pin ribbon, it's a proprietary interface of some unknown type. > Anyway, saying this is ATAPI, what are the chances that it will > install (being ATAPI suport is still experimental) correctly? I > figure he'll have problems anyway because he is a novice UNIX user > anyway. It's not ATAPI if it has a 16-pin cable. "IDE" and "ATAPI" are close to synonymous when it comes to CDroms, if I understand things correctly. > Blair -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 19:48:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA04372 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03508 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09875; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:12:14 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601040342.OAA09875@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: LAT support To: freelist@elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (Don Whiteside) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:12:14 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Jan 3, 96 04:05:39 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Don Whiteside stands accused of saying: > > > Someone just dropped an old DECserver 200/MC on my lap that would be > nice to use for some cruddy little dialup, but it (a) needs a loader for > the software when it boots up and (2) only does LAT connection. Anyone > ever program any LAT support for FreeBSD? To boot that box, you need MOP. MOP is proprietary DEC; I've seen an attempt at reverse engineering that had most of the basic information, but on top of that you need all the other stuff. (LAT, Decnet etc.) On top of that, the DS200 is a really cheesy terminal server. Sell it to a VMS or Ultrix shop and go buy a multiport serial card 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 19:51:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA04575 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from tide10.microsoft.com (firewall-user@tide10.microsoft.com [131.107.3.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04567 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by tide10.microsoft.com; id UAA23533; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:04:10 -0800 Received: from unknown(157.54.17.74) by tide10.microsoft.com via smap (g3.0.3) id xma023521; Wed, 3 Jan 96 20:03:45 -0800 Received: from xnet2 (xnet2.microsoft.com [157.54.17.205]) by imail2.microsoft.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA17063 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:53:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601040353.TAA17063@imail2.microsoft.com> X-Received: from PRX-01-HUB by xnet2 with recvsmtp; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:51:01 -0800 X-Received: from tai-01-msg by prx-01-hub with receive; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:50:58 -0800 X-MSMail-Message-ID: 4D13A684 X-MSMail-Conversation-ID: 4D13A684 From: Michael Chen (Symbio Sys) To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:53:52 PST X-MsXMTID: tai-01-msg960104035253MTP[01.51.00]00000042-11816 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Message-ID: tai-01-msg960104035253MTP[01.51.00]00000042-11816 unsubscribe freebsd-questions From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 19:52:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA04642 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04612 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09921; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:22:47 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601040352.OAA09921@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: help BACKUPS with TAR ? To: wjh@bhoss.ifx.net Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:22:46 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Bill Henderson" at Jan 3, 96 08:21:57 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk You know, if you only posted this message to one place instead of many, you'd probably have had a much better response. Bill Henderson stands accused of saying: > > I have a scsi qic 3080 2gig tape backup unit, and while trying > to backup using tar cv / it runs for quite awhile but always seeems > to hang up the whole machine where a reboot is nessasary. > > I also tried the same backup to a hard disk with the same results, > the disk is only 1.8 gig and only 46% being used, has anyone got an Idea > to what is going on here or how to fix it ? No, I doubt anyone has. You will need to supply a lot more in the way of details before anyone will be able to help you. (Stop and think for a moment; are we mind-readers? do we have hidden wires to your machine that let us see what it's doing?) You need to offer at least the following details : o The probe messages (from the system logs) for the tape drive and SCSI controller. o Some idea of whether there are any error messages generated when the backup fails. o General details as to the configuration of the rest of your system. o Which version of FreeBSD you're running. As a rule, more details are better than less. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 19:57:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA05456 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05420 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:57:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09930; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:24:51 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601040354.OAA09930@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: System hangs with S3-Trio64 and networking. To: ks@itp.ac.ru (Sergey S. Kosyakov) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:24:51 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601030840.LAA07898@itp.ac.ru> from "Sergey S. Kosyakov" at Jan 3, 96 11:40:23 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Sergey S. Kosyakov stands accused of saying: > > I have Pentium-120 with 32 MB RAM and Diamond Stealth-64 2 MB DRAM (S3-Trio64) > PCI card. When I start ping from xterm %25 or more pings loss. When I start > some network applications under X (like ftp or netscape) system hangs. > I tried "de" (Digital 21041 PCI Ethernet card) and "ed" (SMC8216) - the > situation is the same. > > Can somebody help me to fix this problem ? Had any progress here yet? I'm sure you have a hardware problem; you should try resetting your BIOS configurations back to their default values. Also check your ethernet cable. > Sergey. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 20:35:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08275 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08242 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA10154; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:04:44 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601040434.PAA10154@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: LAT support To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:04:44 +1030 (CST) Cc: nate@rocky.sri.MT.net, freelist@elf.kendall.mdcc.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601040134.SAA16387@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jan 3, 96 06:34:11 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk (a bit off topic, sorry 8) Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > > Someone just dropped an old DECserver 200/MC on my lap that would be ... > On the other hand, this is a relatively simple box to trace out, and you > can use the 68k version of GAS to write download code for it if you have > got DECNet up enough to answer MOP-MOM request (Maintenance Operations > Protocol, "boot me"). Reverse-engineering it would probably be harder than disassembling the bootstrap to outline the hardware, unless you don't mind pulling the PALs out of the board and have the tools to reverse-engineer them. Either way, you're stuck with a small 68000 box with a few cranky UARTs and an ethernet. Fun toy, but not terribly useful in itself. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 20:52:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA09439 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from wsantee.oz.net (wsantee.oz.net [204.118.240.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09433 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wsantee@localhost) by wsantee.oz.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA03578 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:52:01 -0800 From: Wes Santee Message-Id: <199601040452.UAA03578@wsantee.oz.net> Subject: Thruput at 28.8 slower than 24.4. Huh? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:52:00 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Okay, first my setup: - FreeBSD 2.1 running IIJPPP w/tun0 running at 750 MRU - Supra 28.8bps external FaxModem w/latest ROMS, hi-speed UART, etc - Connected to Port Livingston terminal servers w/US Robotics Courier v.Everything's When the receive speed of my modem is set to 24.4 - 26.6bps, everything is smooth as silk. When I get a true 28.8 connection, however, my throughput slows down to about 1/10th the speed it was running at w/26.6bps or below. At 28.8, I'll get a burst of something, then nothing for a couple seconds, then another burst, etc. At 26.6 data just streams away. Any ideas from the software side what this might be before suspecting hardware? Cheers, -- ( -Wes Santee | ) ( (backup) | No one told you when to run... ) ( http://www.oz.net/~wsantee \------------------------------- ) ( finger for PGP info Powered by FreeBSD ) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 21:09:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA10780 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10748 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA10308; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:39:59 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601040509.PAA10308@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Netscape 2.0b3 and Java To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:39:59 +1030 (CST) Cc: d_burr@ix.netcom.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at Jan 3, 96 07:54:46 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Matthew N. Dodd stands accused of saying: > > On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > > Got it installed, and running. Boy is it nice. Well, almost. Whenever I > > try accessing a Java site (e.g. http://java.sun.com), I get: > > > > EMT trap (core dumped) > > Are you running in 16bit color mode? A linux using friend (is this > possible?) discovered that the Java stuff in NN doesn't work in 16bpp, only > 8 and 32 (boggle that). This appears to be a Motif thing; Linux IDL (also a Motif user) works fine in 8 or 32-bit modes, but dies interestingly on a 16-bit display. > | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 21:27:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA11927 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11922 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA266773238; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:27:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199601040527.AA266773238@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA013113236; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:27:16 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: how to disable cover page when sending fax with hylafax ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 96 16:27:16 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- TSSSIA. I know it's a dumb question, but I couldn;t find the answer in the man page and the FAQ. - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMOtlLEmThh0X7Um5AQEVbAP/RS86feEw1VmwpBvVo1pWQSMwivzfvtwc I1nxtKxz1o+5GwPWjA4bA0Zbq0QHUJ2UFvziXNak76vhhVCrXQjsPBifae4XiXQZ SViKRZnSc62jsa7JxYlqurzPtPQ6gCj4ZzrQHezEdeC2ZTe0+UszfkxJdmBkOA1M mye9nDZ0eJQ= =8KuK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 21:35:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12363 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12358 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA013013694; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:34:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199601040534.AA013013694@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA013473693; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:34:53 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: [2.1R] how to configure xfmail NOT to incorporates mail from spool area To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 96 16:34:53 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, Is there a way that one can configure xfmail NOT to incorporates/retrieve mail messages into $HOME/Mail/inbox, instead opening the temp mailbox in say $TMPDIR ? I find it rather annoying the way xfmail incorporates mail from spool area. Is this behavior configurable ? Also, if one sets incorporates mail upon startup, it will pull in ALL existing articles from spool area into inbox as well, making each article appears twice! 8-(( - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMOtm9UmThh0X7Um5AQEJ3wP8CEVl38qHov9bZGjDTKwWYim1uXsICQ6x mCHlHWjjNZMFP89bwLVpb7piFYTH2lqUIc7Tir+pEvRWhSLJPY9YWriath6E3cxW kcyZLHRlRv6RC9qhkFAvEOMLyQj+ct+6l3N/nw2E6a+HMWr6AzzaNQzO6f8UM4Ex ZfV3pQLoYCU= =vXby -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 21:53:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13339 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13331 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA09390; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:55:39 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601040555.VAA09390@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Netscape 2.0b3 and Java To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:55:39 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Jan 3, 96 02:45:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > well, to celebrate (finally!) getting the Linux emulator to run, I > decided the hell with the hourly charges my ISP charges and download the > latest Netscape (2.0b3) for Linux... with Java support. > > Got it installed, and running. Boy is it nice. Well, almost. Whenever I > try accessing a Java site (e.g. http://java.sun.com), I get: > > EMT trap (core dumped) > > Is this a known problem? Should I stick with something "safer" like > maybe 2.0b1 or b2 of Netscape? (i.e. did b3 introduce some obscure bug > that causes it to die under FreeBSD?) No such trouble with 2.0b3 and 2.2-current. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 22:34:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA17986 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17975 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA10084 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:37:10 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601040637.WAA10084@MediaCity.com> Subject: rsh doesn't always work To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:37:09 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk For the last year or so on 2.2-current I've had the problem where flem>rlogin foobar.com # works as expected foobar>exit flem>rlogin foobar.com # quickly relogin connection refused. # takes about 20 seconds to fail flem>rlogin foobar.com # works as expected This also manifests itself in another way. I have my email on flem. When I "view" a MIME encoded voice mail, flem will rcp mime_encoded_voice_mail foobar:/var/tmp rsh foobar play_mime_encoded_voice_mail /var/tmp/mime_encoded_voice_mail When I play the first message it works great. If I play the next message quickly after the 1st I get the 'connection refused'. The next play attempt works. If I leave 30 seconds or see between play attempts everything works fine. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 22:35:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA18206 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from stdismas.bogon.com (root@stdismas.bogon.com [204.191.163.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18196 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:35:27 -0800 (PST) From: jhenders@bogon.com Received: by stdismas.bogon.com (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.7 #30.9 #9) id m0tXjGh-0004FdC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 22:35 PST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 96 22:35 PST To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Newsgroups: local.freebsd.questions Path: jhenders From: jhenders@bogon.com Subject: Re: User-level and administrative diff's between BSDi and FreeBSD? Distribution: local X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5b3.0 Organization: St Dismas' Home for the Incurably Informed Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 06:35:16 GMT In goerzenj@complete.org (John Goerzen) writes: >I may be wrong, but I thought that Taylor UUCP could be configured (or >compiled) to use HDB configs. >On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Donald Burr wrote: >> I know there'll be differences, and I'm expecting that: f.e. I know that >> BSDi uses its own UUCP derived from the original BSD UUCP, with its own >> enhancements, while FreeBSD uses Taylor UUCP with the weird Taylor-style >> config files (I much prefer standard HDB configs, but that's another >> story). Taylor can be compiled to use HDB, the original BNU and it's own config files, in a mix or individually. BSDI seems to want to use BNU style L.sys etc files, but Taylor is a trivial port to BSDI so I just replaced it. I don't know if the FreeBSD version of Taylor is compiled to understand all the different config files, but I think it should be if it isn't. I just compiled my own version when I installed FreeBSD, as I have legacy HDB files and really can't be bothered to convert. I also can't stand the spool directory choice of splitting D and X files into D. and X. directorys. Makes checking file consistancy on spools more complicated than it needs to be. I don't understand what it's supposed to buy you. Other than trivial differences like uucp config though, I find FreeBSD and BSDI fairly similar from an administation standpoint, almost all the files are in the same places, reconfig of the kernel is very similar. The only problems I've had so far are a lot of weird tty/console problems in FreeBSD that I haven't run across in BSDI, Linux or even SCO. My favorite editor, an obscure Jove variant works fine under the afformentioned OS's, and even under pcvt, but won't work in syscons, and can't find the COLS and LINES in an xterm or rxvt. ;-(. -- Artificial Intelligence stands no chance against Natural Stupidity. GAT d- -p+(--) c++++ l++ u++ t- m--- W--- !v b+++ e* s-/+ n-(?) h++ f+g+ w+++ y* From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 23:03:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA19383 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from riker.comcirc.com.au (riker.comcirc.com.au [203.17.165.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19373 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from paul@localhost) by riker.comcirc.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA26195; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:00:22 +1100 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:00:22 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Sondhu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Setting up NFS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to set up NFS between two FreeBSD machines and am having a few problems. The only help and info I have found in setting up NFS is from news articles from the freebsd web site and even that doesnt seem very helpful. What I have tried to do is this: On the machine that I want to share a directory in I have created an /etc/exports file and have put in that file the following line: /usr/local/webpages riker.comcirc.com.au where /usr/local/webpages is the directory I want to access from the hostname riker.comcirc.com.au Then I have run nfsd ( as root ). On the machine I want to mount the remote filesystem on ( riker.comcirc.com.au ) I type the following line ( as root also ): mount troi.comcirc.com.au:/usr/local/webpages /mnt where troi.comcirc.com.au is the remote machine running nfsd When I run this command I get the following message and nothing happens: NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registerd I get the following error when I run showmount -e troi on the remote machine: Program not registered Cant do exports rpc I was wondering if someone could tell me what these messages mean and how I go about getting NFS up and running. Regards, Paul. --------------------------------------- Paul Sondhu | P.Sondhu@comcirc.com.au From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 01:10:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA24288 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from wormhole (root@wormhole.map.com [204.71.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24283 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:10:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 08:33:14 EST From: jay@map.com (Roland Jay Roberts) Reply-To: jay@map.com (Roland Jay Roberts) To: huck@slartibartfast.nosc.mil Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Roland Roberts's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:14:15 -0500 (EST) you wrote: > The LINT kernel config file lists a limit of 64 ptys, but the > MAKEDEV scripts show that you can make a whole lot more devices > than that, up to 256 if I remember correctly. To increase the number, I believe you just need to increase the limit in your kernel config and re-make the kernel, then make sure sufficient devices exist (using MAKEDEV). // ------------------------------------- | |\ _,,,---,,_ // Roland Jay Roberts - Team OS/2 - | ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ // Internet: jay@map.com | |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' // FidoNet: Roland Roberts @ 1:321/305.5 | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 01:23:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA24651 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-25.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24628 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA00259; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:28:05 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:28:05 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: setting up for kernel dumps? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to set up for kernel coredump saving. I want to dump to /dev/wd0s1b -- this is my swap partition. But I'm not sure how to do this, I try adding "dumps on wd0s1" in the kernel config file, but when the kernel panic's, it always says "invalid device 0:131073" (sorry, this message is being typed from memory). How do I set this up properly? any help greatly appreciated. I'd prefer setting it up in the kernel config file, so that if the kernel crashes BEFORE booting begins, a crashdump will still be saved. (if you use the dumpon command, this won't catch this) Thanks for your help! Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 01:23:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA24650 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from albion.loach.org (root@loach.org [199.233.190.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24639 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alexei@localhost) by albion.loach.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA01583 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:25:06 GMT From: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov Message-Id: <199601040125.BAA01583@albion.loach.org> Subject: Small, tiny question. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:25:05 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there a quick guide to completely rebuilding the OS using the make world mechanism of the source tree? Any caveats that need to be known? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? :) Any advice is appreciated! -Alexei From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 01:33:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA25175 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from paaltjens.si.hhs.nl (pp@paaltjens.si.hhs.nl [145.52.80.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25159 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from si.hhs.nl by paaltjens.si.hhs.nl id <26120-0@paaltjens.si.hhs.nl>; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:33:21 +0100 Received: from brulez (localhost) by brulez.si.hhs.nl (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26358; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:31:48 --100 Message-Id: <9601040931.AA26358@brulez.si.hhs.nl> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 96 10:31:49 0100 From: Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 5.3 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: XFree X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to start Xfree on my system. Before FreeBSD I used Linux and with this system I had to get a special X-server for my videocard. The problem with my card is that it is a Tseng ET4000W32p (PCI) with a chrontel RAMDAC. Because the X-server shipped with FreeBSD 2.1 does not work properly I have to use the SVGA server. Is there a site on the WEB where I can get a X-server for my card or do I hav to go on using the SVGA server? I have a pentium-120 with 24Mb-RAM, Tseng ET4000W32p video card with 2Mb. With Linux you get a Guide. Is there one on your CD, can I order one, is there one? Or do I have to find everything in the MAN-pages. Greeting Jeroen. v932492@si.hhs.nl From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 02:20:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA27461 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 02:20:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27454 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 02:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA14216; Thu, 4 Jan 96 02:20:33 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601041020.AA14216@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: SCSI bus/device timeouts on AHA-1542b To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 02:20:32 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've a got a problem with every SCSI hard drive I've hooked up to my Adaptec AHA-1542b controler. I newfs the drive ok. (disk label reports After hard useage (heavy cp'ing/tar'ing), I get: Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: adapter not taking commands.. frozen?! Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: adapter not taking commands.. frozen?! Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: Debugger("aha1542") called. Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: Debugger("aha1542") called. Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: AGAIN Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: AGAIN Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: aha0: MBO 02 and not 00 (free) Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: aha0: MBO 02 and not 00 (free) Jan 3 02:56:45 foobar /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out Jan 3 02:56:45 foobar /kernel: adapter not taking commands.. frozen?! Jan 3 02:56:45 foobar /kernel: Debugger("aha1542") called. I get simlar messages on the console and all SCSI devices hang. As does rebooting. What is the "Debugger("aha1542") called"? What do I do with it (if it ever pops up)? Any ideas how to investigate? Can I somehow bump up the timeout values in the kernel, or set the kernel to not pound so hard on the SCSI bus? More details: Running FreeBSD 2.1.0-R, SCSI disk is Micropolis 1588-15 and is SCSI-1. The same happens with an old Seagate ST-2383N SCSI-1 drive. Under FreeBSD 2.0.5-R I could newfs the SCSI drives, but any accesses would cause a kernel panic. Also on the scsi bus is a Pioneer DRM-604x CDROM changer (which FreeBSD supports perfectly!). My main drive is my second W.D. EIDE drive (with the first W.D. IDE drive for MS crap OS's). Sometimes I also have an Exebyte 8505 8mm tape drive on the same SCSI bus. In fact when tar'ing files to the Exebyte drive, I often get: tar: can't write to /dev/rst0 : Input/output error Dec 28 14:36:37 foobar /kernel: st0(aha0:4:0): timed out Dec 28 14:36:37 foobar /kernel: st0(aha0:4:0): timed out -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 02:21:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA27483 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 02:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27472 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 02:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA15281 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:19:48 +0100 Message-Id: <199601041019.AA15281@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:19:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: dhbrown@bga.com (David H. Brown) "Kernel compile problem" (Jan 3, 15:10) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: dhbrown@bga.com (David H. Brown) Subject: Re: Kernel compile problem Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 3, 15:10, David H. Brown wrote: } Subject: Kernel compile problem } Hi! } Finally got around to trying to compile "my own" kernel, though not a } compiler jockey. Guess what... it didn't compile--or maybe it did. } } This is recently installed 2.1 RELEASE, with the install option up to } "kernel sources and compile" or something like that. I have successfully } compiled the bash package... this was my next project, as the GENERIC kernel } shipped with the 2.1 RELEASE install doesn't seem to like my IDE CDROM } } Having started with "make", the compile proceeds for about an hour. Then: } } loading kernel } kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment Well, there might be a "device npx0" missing here ... } ncr.o: Undefined symbol '_pci_map_mem' referenced from text segment } ncr.o: Undefined symbol '_pci_conf_read' referenced from text segment } ncr.o: Undefined symbol '_pci_map_int' referenced from text segment Hmm, a "controller pci0" might help ... } ncr.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_alloc_bus' referenced from text segment } ...... } aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol '_scsi_alloc_bus' referenced from text seg } ...... Yes, lack of a "controller scbus0" causes this ... } So all may have compiled, but didn't like what got compiled. Well, after a look at your config file, I assume that you got no SCSI devices, and no devices on PCI. You ought to be able to build a kernel using the config file below you sent! Maybe you just forgot to do a "config EDGEROCK" after the last change you made to your config file ??? } The only change to the GENERIC configuration that I made (other than } commenting out unwanted devices) was the change in port assignment for the } ethernet adapter. # -- My 486 machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: EDGEROCK,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" ident EDGEROCK maxusers 10 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 #options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 #controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #controller ncr0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr #controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr #controller scbus0 #device sd0 #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console #device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr #device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr #device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device lpt2 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 04:21:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA02406 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from itp.ac.ru (itp.ac.ru [193.233.32.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02328 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (ks@localhost) by itp.ac.ru (8.6.11/8.6.5) id PAA00712; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:18:39 +0300 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:18:39 +0300 From: "Sergey S. Kosyakov" Message-Id: <199601041218.PAA00712@itp.ac.ru> To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Subject: Re: System hangs with S3-Trio64 and networking. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm not sure it is hardware problem. Under MS-Windows everything works well. All possible BIOS configurations was checked. And ethernet cable works well of course. The problem becomes ONLY when X-server (XF86_S3) works. Sergey. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 04:33:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA02703 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper101152.iafrica.com [196.7.101.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02696 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00341 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:45:48 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601041145.NAA00341@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: PPP glitches resolved To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:45:45 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Robert Nordier wrote as follows: > I set up user PPP a few days ago and have been having > a few problems. > > Basically, everything works fine during the first > dial-in. But reconnecting later sometimes results in > one of two error messages: > > 1) SIOCAIFADDR: File exists > 2) rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf0509d00) was (0xf0506980) The good news is now that iij-ppp is working, with no SIOCAIFADDR or rtinit errors, and actually handles all the route adding and cleanup by itself correctly and automatically, without help from the route(8) utility. To everyone who gave advice, thanks very much, and thanks particularly to Richard Lyon and Doug White for help in finally getting the correct configuration sorted out. -- Robert Nordier rnordier@iafrica.com E.A.C. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 04:42:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA03127 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03122 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa09583; 4 Jan 96 7:45 EST Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 07:44:33 -0500 (EST) From: steve hovey To: James Raynard cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NON Adaptec PCI SCSI ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, James Raynard wrote: > On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Stephen Hovey wrote: > > > Can anyone recommend a few good, known bug free with freebsd 2.0.5R+ pci > > scsi controller cards? Specifically by modem/manufacturer? (and not an > > adaptec!) > > The FAQ lists the following as supported:- > > Buslogic BT-946, BT-956 > NCR 53C810 based, 53C82x based The problem with the latter is that Ive yet to be able to discover what chip set any controller is based on... I was hoping for brand name make and models of NCR based controllers. Oh well -------------------------------------------------- Stephen Hovey shovey@buffnet.net root@buffnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 04:52:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA03471 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03466 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 04:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA07040; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 07:52:57 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601041252.HAA07040@hda.com> Subject: Re: SCSI bus/device timeouts on AHA-1542b To: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 07:52:57 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601041020.AA14216@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> from "David E. O'Brien" at Jan 4, 96 02:20:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk These kinds of errors are typical of something wedging the SCSI bus and hanging the controller. As always, "SCSI bus integrity". Be sure that only the first and last devices are terminated, that you have the appropriate cables, and that someone is supplying terminator power. > After hard useage (heavy cp'ing/tar'ing), I get: > > Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out A disk transfer timed out. The 1542B light is probably on solid, and the firmware is hung. > Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: adapter not taking commands.. frozen?! The 1542 won't talk. > Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: Debugger("aha1542") called. If "ddb" were configured you'd be in ddb now. > Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: AGAIN The host adapter transaction timed out again... > Jan 3 02:56:35 foobar /kernel: aha0: MBO 02 and not 00 (free) And the command mailbox is not free. It is still the 02 put there to try to abort the transaction. > Jan 3 02:56:45 foobar /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out > Jan 3 02:56:45 foobar /kernel: adapter not taking commands.. frozen?! > Jan 3 02:56:45 foobar /kernel: Debugger("aha1542") called. If this isn't the cables, then maybe there is a new firmware rev for something? -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 06:10:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA06272 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 06:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.tseinc.com (bsd.tseinc.com [199.217.191.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06267 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 06:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws2.tseinc.com (ws2.tseinc.com [199.217.241.142]) by bsd.tseinc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA03223; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:09:27 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:09:27 GMT Message-Id: <199601040809.IAA03223@bsd.tseinc.com> X-Sender: jlwest@bsd.tseinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Jay L. West" Subject: parallel logon question (gestur@islandia.is) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk gestur@islandia.is asked about preventing parallel logons. Here's the solution that we use here. All our customers dial in via iij-PPP. When we create their account the logon shell is set to /usr/local/bin/ppplogin. The idea is that the ppplogin script will kick off iijppp. Our ppplogin is: #!/bin/sh - if [`who | cut -d\ -f1 | wc -l` -gt 1]; then echo Already logged on. exit fi /usr/sbin/ppp -direct `tty|cut -d/ -f3` Things to note -- there are TWO spaces after the -d\ in the second line. There's probably a better way to indicate a space delimiter, but I'm no script programmer. After the wc is a -letter not -number and after the -gt is a number not a letter. The last line starts ppp with a label of the current tty port. This is because we pseudo-dynamically assign ipa's (per tty rather than per connect). As a result your final line that starts ppp may vary. Use what you've got working already there. This works great for ppp. For shell accounts, you could use the same logic above but put it in the skeleton .profile or $HOME/.profile (or /etc/profile if FreeBSD uses that). The other solution I saw posted here suggested a crontab entry, but your users might find it more palatable to not get a second login rather than getting it and then being kicked off. Hope this helps! Jay L. West From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 07:35:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA11015 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 07:35:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bbcc.ctc.edu (MAIL.BBCC.CTC.EDU [134.39.180.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA11007 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 07:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by localhost from mail.bbcc.ctc.edu (router,WinSmtp -Win16- V1.07beta1.8); Thu, 04 Jan 1996 07:33:30 PST Received: from johna.bbcc.ctc.edu by mail.bbcc.ctc.edu (134.39.180.47::mail daemon; unverified,WinSmtp -Win16- V1.07beta1.8); Thu, 04 Jan 1996 07:32:52 PST Comments: Authenticated sender is From: John Anderson Organization: Big Bend Comm College To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:04:29 -8 Subject: buying a computer, will it work? Reply-to: John Anderson Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.0-WB1) Message-Id: <19960104073330.04801aab.in@mail.bbcc.ctc.edu> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm new to this list and this type of OS so please forgive any stupid questions. Looking at buying a computer to use as a FreeBSD machine and would like to know if it is compatible, suggestions, comments and when I install FreeBSD will it find all of the components? Intel Pentium 100Mhz processor 16 MB Ram, 256 Cache 1.4 MB Floppy Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Controller 1 GB Fast SCSI HD 3 Com PCI 32 Bits Ethernet Card VGA Display Card Keytronic 101 Keyboard Toshiba 4X CD-Rom Thank you for your help and patience John Anderson From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 07:38:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA11249 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 07:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.tseinc.com (bsd.tseinc.com [199.217.191.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA11243 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 07:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws2.tseinc.com (ws2.tseinc.com [199.217.241.142]) by bsd.tseinc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA04026; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:38:33 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:38:33 GMT Message-Id: <199601040938.JAA04026@bsd.tseinc.com> X-Sender: jlwest@bsd.tseinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Jay L. West" Subject: parallel logon solution correction Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk When my post on the parallel logon problem hit the mailing list (and copied back to me) I noticed I left out part of the statement (that's what happens when I type from memory rather than printing out the darn script :) ). The correct ppplogin script is: #!/bin/sh - if [ `who | cut -d\ -f1 | grep $(who am i|cut -d\ -f1) | wc -l` -gt 1 ]; then echo Already logged on. exit fi /usr/sbin/ppp -direct `tty|cut -d/ -f3` I inadvertently left out the grep portion (which would not make your users very happy). Sorry about the omission. Jay L. West From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 08:14:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA13615 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ormail.intel.com (root@ormail.intel.com [134.134.192.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA13606 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:14:41 -0800 (PST) From: olsenc@ichips.intel.com Received: from ichips.intel.com (ichips.intel.com [134.134.50.200]) by ormail.intel.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA22091; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:13:52 -0800 Received: from dtt034.intel.com by ichips.intel.com (8.7.1/jII); Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by dtt034.intel.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/10.0i); Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:13:05 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:13:05 -0800 Message-Id: <9601041613.AA25307@dtt034.intel.com> To: jhewitt@uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu, jhp@cypress.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: /kernel: stray irq 15 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello: We've been having some really strange problems with our local HD: Jan 4 03:04:21 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 Jan 4 03:04:25 smokey /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: Jan 4 03:04:25 smokey /kernel: wd0: status 7e error 0 Jan 4 03:05:25 smokey /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: Jan 4 03:05:25 smokey /kernel: wd0: status 7e error 1 Lately, this has led to the eventual crashing of our FreeBSD box. It started somewhere in 2.0.5, we weren't sure what was going on, and now we're at 2.1 because 2.0.5 got trashed. Our hardware guy found a funky sound interface enabled in the BIOS on this Professional/GX workstation, and disabled it thinking it was the culprit (IRQ 15). We also had EOI enabled in the kernel before, and we've disabled that as well. I'm running out of ideers... -Clint From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 08:23:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA14094 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14082 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA03438; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:23:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA02427; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:23:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601041623.IAA02427@corbin.Root.COM> To: olsenc@ichips.intel.com cc: jhewitt@uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu, jhp@cypress.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /kernel: stray irq 15 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jan 96 08:13:05 PST." <9601041613.AA25307@dtt034.intel.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 08:23:16 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >We've been having some really strange problems with our local HD: > >Jan 4 03:04:21 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 >Jan 4 03:04:25 smokey /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: >Jan 4 03:04:25 smokey /kernel: wd0: status 7e error 0 >Jan 4 03:05:25 smokey /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: >Jan 4 03:05:25 smokey /kernel: wd0: status 7e error 1 > >Lately, this has led to the eventual crashing of our FreeBSD box. It >started somewhere in 2.0.5, we weren't sure what was going on, and now >we're at 2.1 because 2.0.5 got trashed. > >Our hardware guy found a funky sound interface enabled in the BIOS on >this Professional/GX workstation, and disabled it thinking it was the >culprit (IRQ 15). We also had EOI enabled in the kernel before, and >we've disabled that as well. > >I'm running out of ideers... This looks like you might have an interrupt conflict on irq 14. It appears that you also have something on irq 15 that occasionally generates an interrupt. In any case, the problem looks very much to be hardware related. I suggest a careful examination of just what is in the machine and perhaps pull out things that aren't being used. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 08:27:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA14332 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:27:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14318 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from crissy.gemis.ge.com ([3.29.7.57]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA15344 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:26:41 -0500 Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by crissy.gemis.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA13373 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:18:59 -0500 Received: from combs.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23350; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:26:40 EST Received: (from steve@localhost) by combs.salem.ge.com (8.7.2/8.6.11) id LAA08129 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:26:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:26:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Stephen F. Combs" Message-Id: <199601041626.LAA08129@combs.salem.ge.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems installing 2.1.0 on an IBM PS/ValuePoint Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install FBSD 2.1.0 on a PS/ValuePoint 486DX/Si. The Install Floppy boots just fine, the system goes thru the install OK, I do the std post-config stuff.....All is great UNTIL I try to boot the just installed system. The system probes OK(finds everything) mounts all the F/S's and then traps with a general protection fault on process (27) sh! HELP! I need to get this system up and configured so I can ship it to Puerto Rico TOMORROW! Steve Combs CombsSF@Salem.GE.COM (540)387-8828 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 08:41:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA15041 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15033 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00242; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:41:18 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:41:18 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ron Weaver cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install Help Needed In-Reply-To: <199601032347.SAA26084@eri.erinet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Ron Weaver wrote: > Dear Questions, > > I'm having a *small* problem installing FreeBSD and could use a > suggestion or three. I am attempting to install 2.1, and am having > what I see as boot sector problems. I get "missing Operating System" > when I boot. Use FDISK to mark your Windows 95 partition as `active'. During the FreeBSD install it marks itself as active -- but somehow that gets lost, hence your problem. The above simple solution will fix it. > > What I got : > new Zeos Pantera 133 (yes!) 16 meg ram > 2 WD31600 (1,6 gig) drives > CDrom, Diamond Stealth 3400, Creative labs AWE32, Colorado T1000 > 28.8 modem, WIN95 (pre- and re- installed ;-| ) Nice rig. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 08:42:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA15147 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15107 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from crissy.gemis.ge.com ([3.29.7.57]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA17604 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:42:21 -0500 Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by crissy.gemis.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA14162 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:34:39 -0500 Received: from combs.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23632; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:42:18 EST Received: (from steve@localhost) by combs.salem.ge.com (8.7.2/8.6.11) id LAA08334 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:42:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:42:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Stephen F. Combs" Message-Id: <199601041642.LAA08334@combs.salem.ge.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems installing 2.1.0 on an IBM PS/ValuePoint Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, I didn't supply enough info! Hardware: IBM PS/ValuePoint 486DX/Si 8MB RAM 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy 504MB IDE HDisk 3Com 3C509 Ethernet I/F Std 2 Serial/1 Parallel (On MB) Tseng ET4000 SVGA (On MB) 512K Video RAM System boots Install floppy just fine, properly finds all installed H/W. Steve C. CombsSF@Salem.GE.COM ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From steve Thu Jan 4 11:26:38 1996 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems installing 2.1.0 on an IBM PS/ValuePoint Content-Length: 502 I'm trying to install FBSD 2.1.0 on a PS/ValuePoint 486DX/Si. The Install Floppy boots just fine, the system goes thru the install OK, I do the std post-config stuff.....All is great UNTIL I try to boot the just installed system. The system probes OK(finds everything) mounts all the F/S's and then traps with a general protection fault on process (27) sh! HELP! I need to get this system up and configured so I can ship it to Puerto Rico TOMORROW! Steve Combs CombsSF@Salem.GE.COM (540)387-8828 ----- End Included Message ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 08:49:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA15498 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15493 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:48:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00252; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:48:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:48:11 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Gary B. Corell" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Netscape & Mosaic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Gary B. Corell wrote: > Does anyone know where I might find the 20.b version of Netscape for the > ports in 2.1R? Just download the `unknown-bsd' version of Netscape and install that. It works perfectly with no changes to the binary. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 08:55:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA15779 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15768 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00262; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:54:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:54:36 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: steve hovey cc: James Raynard , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NON Adaptec PCI SCSI ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, steve hovey wrote: > > NCR 53C810 based, 53C82x based > > The problem with the latter is that Ive yet to be able to discover what > chip set any controller is based on... I was hoping for brand name make > and models of NCR based controllers. Oh well I spent all day yesterday trying to track one of these down, hence my message. NCR no longer exists. It is now Symbios. Their web site is http://www.symbios.com. Bad thing is, Symbios won't sell direct. And their resellers are all out, according to my information, for the next two months. Hm... I am looking for the SYM8150SP, which is the Fast SCSI with onboard BIOS. The SYM8100ASP is for you with Asus boards with support already onboard. In any case, that gives you something to start on. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 08:57:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA15941 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15934 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11297; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id LAA03780; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:54:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:54:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@cappuccino.eng.umd.edu To: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small, tiny question. In-Reply-To: <199601040125.BAA01583@albion.loach.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov wrote: > Is there a quick guide to completely rebuilding the OS using the make world > mechanism of the source tree? Any caveats that need to be known? Anyone? > Anyone? Bueller? :) Any advice is appreciated! Take a look at the handbook, it's got a section on making your kernel config file that's pretty useable. Beware, if you have an older copy of the handbook, it had a mistake in it that made many think it was ok to drop the npx0 device. It's a mandatory device, so don't disable it or you just won't get a good compile (you'll get linking error messages). After you are happy with the config file, use the config utility to make a build directory for it. You MUST do it that way, because config does many other things for you too. Then cd into the directory that config tells you it has created, do a make depend, then a make. If you don't see any error messages, you can install this new kernel in your system with a make install. If you then get a error rebooting and want to go back to your old kernel, it's still there, just respond to the boot prompt with the filename "kernel.old" and you'll be back where you were. You might want to save that kernel.old then, to make room, because a second make install (of a fixed kernel) will write the bad kernel into kernel.old. I usually keep an 'emerg'ency file in my root, to which I always copy my last good kernel, as a safety line. > > -Alexei > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:05:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA16494 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16484 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from block.statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tXt68-000r3sC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:05 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by block.statsci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA09931; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:05:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199601041705.JAA09931@block.statsci.com> To: "Ron Weaver" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: Install Help Needed In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 1996 20:07:57." <199601040111.UAA01113@eri.erinet.com> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 09:05:02 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Ron Weaver" wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply, but : Duh! you mean on my C: drive, of > course ? Should I use FIPS, so I don't have to restore the 600 mega > stuff already there ? Thanks again. I wouldn't use FIPS to do it if you expect to want to mount the DOS slice under FreeBSD. There's bug(s) in the msdosfs code in FreeBSD that get triggered by what FIPS does with the FAT on the DOS slice (you end up getting corrupted BSD partitions since they would be after the DOS slice on your disk). Basically, you have to decide which is better... 1) The convenience of using FIPS and avoiding the backup, re-install & restore of your DOS slice. 2) Being able to mount your DOS slice from FreeBSD. Or at least that's my understanding based on some experience in the matter of trashed BSD partitions... :-( Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:06:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA16553 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16541 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:06:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00279; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:05:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:05:12 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Paul Sondhu cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up NFS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Paul Sondhu wrote: > I am trying to set up NFS between two FreeBSD machines and am having a > few problems. [...] > NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registerd You need to grab the pcnfs port and make that. OS/2 complains the same way when I try to nfs mount one of my fbsd partitions. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:12:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA17116 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17106 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00296; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:12:52 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:12:51 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Schellart cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree In-Reply-To: <9601040931.AA26358@brulez.si.hhs.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Schellart wrote: > Hello, I am trying to start Xfree on my system. Before FreeBSD I used Linux and > with this system I had to get a special X-server for my videocard. The problem > with my card is that it is a Tseng ET4000W32p (PCI) with a chrontel RAMDAC. There is no special accelerated X server for your card, you'll have to continue using the SVGA server. Linux and FreeBSD use the same X distribution, XFree86. Configuration should be identical, on the X side. There is a script called `xf86config' that makes building the XF86Config file a snap. > With Linux you get a Guide. Is there one on your CD, can I order one, is there > one? Or do I have to find everything in the MAN-pages. There might be some info in the Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org), but I'm not sure on that. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:30:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA18266 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from albion.loach.org (root@loach.org [199.233.190.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18254 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alexei@localhost) by albion.loach.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA07117; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:31:23 GMT From: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov Message-Id: <199601040931.JAA07117@albion.loach.org> Subject: Re: Small, tiny question. To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:31:21 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jan 4, 96 11:54:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov wrote: > > > Is there a quick guide to completely rebuilding the OS using the make world > > mechanism of the source tree? Any caveats that need to be known? Anyone? > > Anyone? Bueller? :) Any advice is appreciated! > > Take a look at the handbook, it's got a section on making your kernel > config file that's pretty useable. Beware, if you have an older copy of > the handbook, it had a mistake in it that made many think it was ok to > drop the npx0 device. It's a mandatory device, so don't disable it or > you just won't get a good compile (you'll get linking error messages). > > After you are happy with the config file, use the config utility to make > a build directory for it. You MUST do it that way, because config does > many other things for you too. Then cd into the directory that config > tells you it has created, do a make depend, then a make. If you don't > see any error messages, you can install this new kernel in your system > with a make install. If you then get a error rebooting and want to go > back to your old kernel, it's still there, just respond to the boot > prompt with the filename "kernel.old" and you'll be back where you were. > You might want to save that kernel.old then, to make room, because a > second make install (of a fixed kernel) will write the bad kernel into > kernel.old. I usually keep an 'emerg'ency file in my root, to which I > always copy my last good kernel, as a safety line. > > > > > -Alexei > > > > ============================================================================ > Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area > features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour > of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high > school photos and much more!: > > > My english isn't so good; I meant to ask: How do you go about building the entire _OS_; i.e., the shared libraries, and the utilities. THe kernel build is no problem whatsoever. I meant to specify that I meant about the source tree for everything else. (As I'm interested in recompiling them all, and practising, before bringing a system up to date with sup, for experimentation) Apologies for the confusion-- Alexei From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:34:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA18642 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lilserv.univ-lille1.fr (lilserv.univ-lille1.fr [134.206.1.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18612 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:33:59 -0800 (PST) From: barthelemy@centre.lille.ensam.fr Received: from centre.lille.ensam.fr (centre.lille.ensam.fr [193.51.48.1]) by lilserv.univ-lille1.fr (8.7.1/jtpda-5.1) with SMTP id SAA26722 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:31:27 +0100 (MET) Received: by centre.lille.ensam.fr (MX V4.1 AXP) id 15; Thu, 04 Jan 1996 18:33:36 EST Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 18:33:36 EST To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Message-ID: <0099BE5B.9F66BE8C.15@centre.lille.ensam.fr> Subject: RE: questions-digest V1 #373 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk reponse rapide top chrono From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:35:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA18778 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18766 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA18483 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:38:41 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601041738.JAA18483@MediaCity.com> Subject: www.freebsd.org and pine vs. spell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:38:40 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Where is the mail archive stuff on www.freebsd.org? I used to be able to find it, but it got lost it what appears to be a new organization of the www.freebsd.org pages. And while I'm here... pine 3.91 tries to invoke /usr/bin/spell. I don't seem to have /usr/bin/spell on any of my FreeBSD systems? What does one do to get spell checking under pine working? Thanks, -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:38:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA18980 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18965 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA17980; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:27:35 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601041727.KAA17980@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: LAT support To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:27:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: freelist@elf.kendall.mdcc.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601040342.OAA09875@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jan 4, 96 02:12:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Someone just dropped an old DECserver 200/MC on my lap that would be > > nice to use for some cruddy little dialup, but it (a) needs a loader for > > the software when it boots up and (2) only does LAT connection. Anyone > > ever program any LAT support for FreeBSD? > > To boot that box, you need MOP. MOP is proprietary DEC; I've seen an > attempt at reverse engineering that had most of the basic information, > but on top of that you need all the other stuff. (LAT, Decnet etc.) Actually, MOP is well documented. Makes sense if you are DEC and want to have people build printers that require DECNet to boot. > On top of that, the DS200 is a really cheesy terminal server. Sell it > to a VMS or Ultrix shop and go buy a multiport serial card 8) He didn't really give a letter after the 200. It *might* have one, and so it *might* have modem control support. I wonder if you could stuff an Amiga 68030 board in and more memory and... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:39:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19058 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19052 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <16433(4)>; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:39:02 PST Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13031; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:39:07 EST Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13813; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:39:05 EST Message-Id: <9601041739.AA13813@gnu.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Terry Lambert Cc: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr), web@merit.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 1996 09:48:43 PST." <199601031748.KAA14974@phaeton.artisoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:39:04 PST From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk My understanding is the Bill Joy vi doesn't even catch SIGWINCH... Would you prefer a vi (like Sun's) which doesn't resize in an xterm? -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:41:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19209 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland.it.earthlink.net [198.68.160.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19196 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from 206.149.223.224 (fessex.earthlink.net [206.149.223.224]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA02465 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:41:08 -0800 Message-ID: <30EC138B.5AAC@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 09:51:07 -0800 From: Fabian Schonholz X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Configuring FreeX86 X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I purchased and installed FreeBSD 2.1, however, I am having some problems configuring X11R6. I have a monitor thta runs at 100MHz, with 30-64 KHz hsync and 50-100KHz vsync. My video card is a ATI WinTurbo with the Mach-64 chipset. I would appreciate some help. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 09:47:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19590 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19585 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA18006; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:35:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601041735.KAA18006@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: LAT support (fwd) To: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:35:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601040253.UAA09723@freebsd.netcom.com> from "Mark Hittinger" at Jan 3, 96 08:53:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Actually the specs for both DECNET, LAT, MAP, DDCMP, etc are fully available. Not LAT... the wanted to keep multisession proprietary. > I think there might also be an image for the DECserver-200 that supports > TCP/IP in addition to (or rather than) LAT. Stanford built one if I rememebr correctly. > In the heyday of VAX/VMS world domination there were a couple of third party > LAT software systems and third party DECNET implementations. I remember > setting up LAT on an SCO-Xenix system :-) All of these were licensed. I remember setting up the same thing on an Interactive box (LAT on DECNet as a streams stack). Might have been a Touch Communications Inc. product. > Some of us reverse engineered the protocol using a combination of an > article that appeared in the Digital Technical Journal and a few header > files that appeared in older versions of Ultrix. Later programs were > donated to DECUS which "sniffed" LAT protocol. Sources too. Yep. The proprietariness has been eroded since the old Interactive days. > Now that the financial value of these implementations are rather > grim...I wonder if it might be possible to get one of them into > the public domain. I will check with one of the guys I know who > implemented a portable LAT driver. YES! > We might wind up with another problem with the FreeBSD ethernet drivers. > We would then be in a situation where we might have several packet > drivers needing access to the same ethernet device. YES! [ ... ] > VMS handled this better, but you had to start the system in a particular > order or things would not work. The problem here is that the Sun DECNet, like the real thing, diddles the ethernet address based on the DECNet address. It can do this because of the LANCE chipset and the associated hardware hacks to allow a write interface. Much DECNet hardware (unless you go Phase V, which I'm too old for) relied on this. For instance, you can't route DECNet, so you have to fake the addresses on a bridge. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:00:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20077 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20072 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA18045; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:47:27 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601041747.KAA18045@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:47:26 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, d_burr@ix.netcom.com, web@merit.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601041739.AA13813@gnu.mc.xerox.com> from "Marty Leisner" at Jan 4, 96 09:39:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > My understanding is the Bill Joy vi doesn't even catch SIGWINCH... > > Would you prefer a vi (like Sun's) which doesn't resize in an xterm? I think the "SIGnal WINdow CHange" is actually Sun-specific. No, I wouldn't prefer that. But typing "^Z" and "fg\r" shouldn't break my cursor keys on a VT100, the standard by which all other terminals are judged. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:01:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20116 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20111 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA18054; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:48:48 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601041748.KAA18054@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: [2.1R] how to configure xfmail NOT to incorporates mail from spool area To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:48:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601040534.AA013013694@hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Jan 4, 96 04:34:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Is there a way that one can configure xfmail NOT to incorporates/retrieve > mail messages into $HOME/Mail/inbox, instead opening the temp mailbox in > say $TMPDIR ? I find it rather annoying the way xfmail incorporates mail from > spool area. Is this behavior configurable ? Also, if one sets incorporates > mail upon startup, it will pull in ALL existing articles from spool area into > inbox as well, making each article appears twice! 8-(( Use an IMAP client instead of a POP client. The mail will remain on the server until deleted. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:08:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20508 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ulantris.infinop.com (root@ulantris.infinop.com [205.230.144.80]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20495 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from john@localhost) by ulantris.infinop.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA06865; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:22:39 -0600 From: "John A. Booth" Message-Id: <199601041822.MAA06865@ulantris.infinop.com> Subject: Re: buying a computer, will it work? To: johna@mail.bbcc.ctc.edu Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:22:38 -0600 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19960104073330.04801aab.in@mail.bbcc.ctc.edu> from "John Anderson" at Dec 31, 95 09:04:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk These are the only components you should have trouble with (with FreeBSD 2.1) I don't believe the 3COM PCI cards are supported, you might want to check into the SMC 9332 (10/100 Etherpower card), or any of the 10 megabit SMC's should be supported as well. NE2000 compatible cards are supported although (among several other brands). > 3 Com PCI 32 Bits Ethernet Card I think there is IDE support for drives cd-roms, but am not sure if this one is supported, (if it's SCSI it should be no problem). I think the 4x Toshiba is a SoundBlaster compatible cd-rom. It can be attached to either an 8-bit card that probably comes with it, or the interface on the soundblaster cards that support the SB compatible rom drives. > Toshiba 4X CD-Rom Anyone else have any suggestions/comments/corrections? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:09:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20646 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20638 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) From: deasey@server1.netpath.net Received: from deasey (tower.netpath.net [205.139.153.11]) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA17501 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:09:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:09:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD Reply-To: deasey@server1.netpath.net Organization: Netpath, Inc & Stratonet, Inc. To: Subject: issue and issue.net under FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering does freebsd use issue and issue.net I saw no mention of these files in the 4.4bsd nor motd for that manner motd does seem to work, but issue does not seem to work. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:09:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20685 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:09:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from hornet.netac.co.za (hornet.netac.co.za [196.3.237.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20644 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tony@localhost) by hornet.netac.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA02576 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:09:59 +0200 From: Tony Harverson Message-Id: <199601041809.UAA02576@hornet.netac.co.za> Subject: Xconsole woes.. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:09:58 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hiya All, I seem to be having a problem with Xconsole which is a little whacky... It refuses to open the console when I run it as a regular user. As a test, I changed the permissions on /dev/console to 777 (and this still didn't work). I then changed the ownership of the console to my userid and that worked beautifully. (under 600 permissions too) (the GID at the time was both (I tested a number of times) wheel and operator (groups to which both root and I have access) and still I have no luck opening the console. (btw : yes, OPTIONS UCONSOLE *is compiled into the kernel) vanilla 2.1 install.. Anyone know of why this is failing ? Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:13:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20878 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from elbereth.blueberry.co.uk (surfs-up.demon.co.uk [158.152.128.94]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20869 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by elbereth.blueberry.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA04263 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:58:37 GMT From: Nik Clayton Message-Id: <199601041358.NAA04263@elbereth.blueberry.co.uk> Subject: mkisofs and false assertions? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:58:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How do, Just been experimenting with mkisofs to build some backup images of my HD. I used this command line: mkisofs -a -A "Blueberry Web Tree" -o www.iso -P "Blueberry Design Ltd." \ -p "Nik Clayton " -R -T -V "www" -v -N -d \ /usr/local/www Long lines broken, obviously. Note the last two parameters, -N and -d. >From the man page for mkisofs, -d Omit trailing period from files that do not have a period. This violates the ISO9660 standard, but it happens to work on many systems. Use with caution. -N Omit version numbers from ISO9660 file names. This may violate the ISO9660 standard, but no one really uses the version numbers anyway. Use with caution. So as far as I can tell, I should not need to use these parameters. However, if I try and run mksiofs without them then I get one of two assertion faults. If I omit -N then I get mkisofs v1.03 assertion "omit_version_number" failed: file "/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/mkisofs/mkisofs.c", line 335 Abort (core dumped) and if I omit -d I get mkisofs v1.03 assertion "omit_period" failed: file "/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/mkisofs/mkisofs.c", line 336 Abort (core dumped) So I'm wondering why mkisofs requires these parameters to be given, despite their use producing non-standard images? A quick 'grep mkisofs' in both the FAQ and the handbook turned up nothing on this subject. Nik -- --+=[ Blueberry Hill Blueberry Design ]=+-- --+=[ http://www.blueberry.co.uk/ 1/9 Chelsea Harbour Design Centre, ]=+-- --+=[ WebMaster@blueberry.co.uk London, England, SW10 0XE ]=+-- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:25:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21504 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch-2.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.5.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21499 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from columbia.cs.ubc.ca (binhdo@columbia.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.4.15]) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA00793; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:24:36 -0800 Received: (binhdo@localhost) by columbia.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA28548; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:24:34 -0800 From: "Binh Do" Message-Id: <9601041024.ZM28546@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:24:33 -0800 In-Reply-To: Doug White "Re: Netscape & Mosaic" (Jan 4, 8:48am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, "Gary B. Corell" Subject: Re: Netscape & Mosaic Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Jan 4, 8:48am, Doug White wrote: > Subject: Re: Netscape & Mosaic > On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Gary B. Corell wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I might find the 20.b version of Netscape for the > > ports in 2.1R? > > Just download the `unknown-bsd' version of Netscape and install that. It > works perfectly with no changes to the binary. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > >-- End of excerpt from Doug White By the way if you have old Makefile in ports/www/netscape, you may want to change netscape-v1.12 and netscape-v1.12...-unknown... to netscape-v.2.0b4.. according to the new name and then run "make install" as usual. -- Binh Do Department Of Computer Science University Of BC, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:32:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21954 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21940 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id NAA22358; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:32:32 -0500 From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id NAA14411; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:41:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199601041841.NAA14411@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:41:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601041739.AA13813@gnu.mc.xerox.com> from "Marty Leisner" at Jan 4, 96 09:39:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Marty Leisner: > > My understanding is the Bill Joy vi doesn't even catch SIGWINCH... > > Would you prefer a vi (like Sun's) which doesn't resize in an xterm? My original question was to understand the lineage, not the functionality of the vi in FreeBSD 2.1 I view it as "a good thing" that nvi derives from Bill Joy's vi and hope and trust that since then, enhancements have been made to nvi so that it _does_ resize in an xterm (catching SIGWINCH or not!) and other things... Thanks! Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network Inc. Domain: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road MaBell: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 747-3185 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:49:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23028 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from logicon.com (klee.logicon.com [137.51.252.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23023 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from cclink.logicon.com (cclink-out.logicon.com) by logicon.com (5.0/SMI-4.2) id AA08199; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:05:39 PST Received: from cc:Mail by cclink.logicon.com id AA820781805; Thu, 04 Jan 96 13:23:44 PST Date: Thu, 04 Jan 96 13:23:44 PST From: "McGrath, Frank" Encoding: 8 Text Message-Id: <9600048207.AA820781805@cclink.logicon.com> To: QUESTIONS@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Enhanced IDE CD-ROM drive Sender: owner-questions@FREEBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk The Walnut Creek 1995 fall/winter catalog says that "IDE CDROM drives are NOT yet supported" for FreeBSD 2.05. My 80494 DX-4/100 PC has a TEAC 6x 56E CD-ROM drive with an Enhanced IDE interface. Also connected top this EIDE interface is a 1.6GB Western Digital hard drive. Does that mean that I cannot use FreeBSD 2.05 from Walnut Creek on my computer? Frank McGratn From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 10:57:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA24186 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nameserver.1stresource.com (root@[205.139.129.222]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24165 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from 205.139.129.222 ([204.194.173.28]) by nameserver.1stresource.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA07032 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:13:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199601042013.PAA07032@nameserver.1stresource.com> X-Sender: snorthcutt@nameserver.1stresource.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 13:57:21 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: snorthcutt@1stresource.com (Scott Northcutt) Subject: X and xterm questions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, This is perhaps the wrong forum for these queries, but, if nothing else, it'll be a good jumping off point. Here goes... 1) I recently ftp'd the xv-3.10a .tgz file, decompressed it, and type make. it cruised along fine for a while and then died while trying to find /X11/Xlib.h and a few other similar header-type files. My question is, how do I acquire those needed files? My /usr/X11R6 directory has bin, man, lib, and include directories in it. Am I missing a source directory or something? 2) In specifying command line parameters for my xterms in .xinitrc, I've finally discovered how to make scroll-bars with a big buffer automatically start on the xterm. What I haven't been able to ascertain is how to use the -fn switch such that a bigger font is the default. I tried "-fn large" but I think it needs a font name and/or size. How do I find out what font is being used, then tell it to make it bigger? Thanks for the help. regards, Scott Northcutt -- AD4JR From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 11:11:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA25457 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:11:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from picspc01.pics.com ([192.135.189.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25448 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.135.189.21] (picsnt01.pics.com [192.135.189.21]) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA27488; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:07:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199601041907.OAA27488@picspc01.pics.com> To: Doug White , Paul Sondhu Subject: Re: Setting up NFS Date: Thu, 04 Jan 96 14:05:20 -0500 From: Terry Rossi X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -- [ From: Terry Rossi * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- I have also seen this when nfsd or nfsiod is not started on one of the FreeBSD machines. Be sure to check that nfs_server and nfs_client are turned on in /etc/sysconfig (2.1R), and that rc is starting them up. Terry -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Thursday, 04-Jan-96 09:05 AM From: Doug White \ Internet: (dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu) To: Paul Sondhu \ Internet: (paul@riker.comcirc.com.au) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org \ Internet: (freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: Setting up NFS On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Paul Sondhu wrote: > I am trying to set up NFS between two FreeBSD machines and am having a > few problems. [...] > NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registerd You need to grab the pcnfs port and make that. OS/2 complains the same way when I try to nfs mount one of my fbsd partitions. -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 11:26:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA26340 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts15-line1.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.184]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26334 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00306; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:15:29 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:15:29 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Larry Dolinar cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone got these nifty Symbios controllers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Larry Dolinar wrote: > | Hello! > | > | I'm looking for someone, somewhere, who can get a hold of one of the > | fabled Symbios controllers. I spent this afternoon (and several $$$) > | calling around, and NOBODY HAS ANY! > > They were very helpful when I called and asked about delaers in my area; > should be the same for you. That's what I did. They referred me to their three resellers, and every one was out. There was a net.personality that was selling these to fbsd people, I'd like to get in touch with him. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 11:30:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA26522 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts15-line1.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.184]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26517 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00428; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:30:51 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:30:51 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buying a computer, will it work? In-Reply-To: <19960104073330.04801aab.in@mail.bbcc.ctc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, John Anderson wrote: > VGA Display Card Something better than standard VGA I hope, if you're planning on doing Xwindows. Don't forget the display. > Toshiba 4X CD-Rom This had better be SCSI. :) Looks OK to me. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 11:53:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA28664 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28652 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:53:48 -0800 (PST) From: ptroot@uswest.com Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25376 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:53:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA20444 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:01:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA17894; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:53:33 -0600 Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA01318; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:53:33 -0600 Message-Id: <9601041953.AA01318@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: handbook To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:53:32 -0600 (CST) X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to get the handbook printed out. When I run it through latex, I get a couple of errors (with a ?) prompt. And when I view the dvi file (or converted ps file) the table of contents is blank and any references to other sections is just ??. Am I doing anything wrong, or is it just that the handbook is incomplete? I'm doing it on my Sparc at work, running Solaris 2.5. No, I'm not convinced that latex is correctly installed on the Sparc. Is it worth my while to pkg_add tex on my FreeBSD machine to create the doc? Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com I don't think its takes a conspiracy to cause so much bad judgement. The combination of guys who have at best so-so IQ's, and a total lack of concern for anything but winning the next election is sufficent. B^2 - on Government From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 11:57:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA29008 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28996 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:56:56 -0800 (PST) From: deasey@server1.netpath.net Received: from deasey (tower.netpath.net [205.139.153.11]) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA19088 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:56:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD Reply-To: deasey@server1.netpath.net Organization: Netpath, Inc & Stratonet, Inc. To: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have noticed that xfmail seems to segfault about every hour and a half on sign al 11 anyone else have this problem ? Thanks --Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 12:23:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA01225 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01172 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from crissy.gemis.ge.com ([3.29.7.57]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA18823; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:22:49 -0500 Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by crissy.gemis.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA27788; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:15:07 -0500 Received: from combs.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29292; Thu, 4 Jan 96 15:22:46 EST Received: (from steve@localhost) by combs.salem.ge.com (8.7.2/8.6.11) id PAB11242; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:22:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:22:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Stephen F. Combs" Message-Id: <199601042022.PAB11242@combs.salem.ge.com> To: terry@lambert.org, leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? Cc: d_burr@ix.netcom.com, web@merit.edu, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What do you mean?? My Sun (SunO/S 4.1.4) resizes just fine! Did on 4.1.3 as well Steve Combs CombsSF@Salem.GE.COM > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Thu Jan 4 15:21:16 1996 > X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 > To: Terry Lambert > Cc: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr), web@merit.edu, questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? > In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 1996 09:48:43 PST." > <199601031748.KAA14974@phaeton.artisoft.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset=us-ascii> > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:39:04 PST > From: "Marty Leisner" > Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org > Content-Length: 226 > > > My understanding is the Bill Joy vi doesn't even catch SIGWINCH... > > Would you prefer a vi (like Sun's) which doesn't resize in an xterm? > > > > -- > marty > leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com > Member of the League for Programming Freedom > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 12:26:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA01592 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from iscp.bellcore.com (iscp.bellcore.com [128.96.144.206]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01586 Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from spruce.iscp.bellcore.com by iscp.bellcore.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25340; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:26:16 -0500 Received: by spruce.iscp.bellcore.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21024; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:26:04 -0500 From: roma@iscp.bellcore.com (Romolo Albuquerque) Message-Id: <9601042026.AA21024@spruce.iscp.bellcore.com> Subject: Add my name to your mailing list... To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:26:03 -0500 (EST) Cc: faq@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi. Please add my name to your mailing list.. --Rom From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 12:29:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA01883 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.shlink.de (root@mail.shlink.de [194.64.6.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01866 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.shn.com by mail.shlink.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXwGs-000ScOC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 21:28 MET Received: (from hw@localhost) by thor.shn.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA09567 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:03:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:03:59 +0100 Message-Id: <199601042003.VAA09567@thor.shn.com> From: hw@thor.shn.com (Henning Wickhorst) Subject: Re: Setting up NFS To: questions@freebsd.org Organization: Private site Reply-To: h.wickhorst@elmshorn.netsurf.de Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Paul Sondhu (paul@riker.comcirc.com.au) wrote: : : I am trying to set up NFS between two FreeBSD machines and am having a : few problems. : : The only help and info I have found in setting up NFS is from news articles : from the freebsd web site and even that doesnt seem very helpful. : : What I have tried to do is this: : : On the machine that I want to share a directory in I have created an : /etc/exports file and have put in that file the following line: : : /usr/local/webpages riker.comcirc.com.au looks good. : : where /usr/local/webpages is the directory I want to access from the hostname : riker.comcirc.com.au : : Then I have run nfsd ( as root ). : : On the machine I want to mount the remote filesystem on ( : riker.comcirc.com.au ) I type the following line ( as root also ): : : mount troi.comcirc.com.au:/usr/local/webpages /mnt I use to run 'muont_nfs' to do the job, don't know if mount will be correct all the time. : : where troi.comcirc.com.au is the remote machine running nfsd : : When I run this command I get the following message and nothing happens: : : NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registerd : : I get the following error when I run showmount -e troi on the remote machine: : : Program not registered Cant do exports rpc : : I was wondering if someone could tell me what these messages mean and how I : go about getting NFS up and running. Be sure to have NFS enabled in your kernel. You need to have 'nfsiod' running on the client machine. One for each filesystem you want to export. See the manpage. You also need to have 'portmap', 'mountd' and 'nfsd' running on the server machine. Read all the manpages for this programs. It is not too hard to set NFS up ;-) But the easiest way is to edit the '/etc/sysconfig' file for each machine. Set nfs_client=YES, nfs_server=YES on the other machine. After rebooting both machines it should work. You don't need to have 'pcnfsd' running on one of the machines, as long as you want to run nfs between two unix machines. Regards, Henning -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Henning Wickhorst Elmshorn, Germany hw@thor.shn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 12:32:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA02202 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02197 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA14974; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id PAA07056; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:32:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:32:31 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@cappuccino.eng.umd.edu To: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small, tiny question. In-Reply-To: <199601040931.JAA07117@albion.loach.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov wrote: > My english isn't so good; I meant to ask: How do you go about building > the entire _OS_; i.e., the shared libraries, and the utilities. THe kernel > build is no problem whatsoever. I meant to specify that I meant about the > source tree for everything else. (As I'm interested in recompiling them all, > and practising, before bringing a system up to date with sup, for > experimentation) > > Apologies for the confusion-- On rereading, I got you wrong, no apologies needed. I can tell you how to do the make world here, but you have to understand that sometimes parts of the tree on dependent on other parts already being at a particular level. Most of such things are put in a special 'tools' list, so they get built and installed first, but there are the occaisonal mistakes. What I am trying to get at is, if you are a complete newbie to the C language, compiling, linking, and using make, well, you probably don't want to try this. You could get yourself in a bad situation, even disabling parts of your OS. Doing the make worlds is for folks willing to take the responsibility for a certain possibility of disaster. That's not to say it's likely, nor are you without help. the FreeBSD-current list helps folks doing make worlds of current sources, and you can get help here on doing builds of other versions. I just want you to be aware, you're taking chances if you're not confident of your hacking skills. That past, I'll explain the way I do it. The sources are in /usr/src, so I cd into that. I usually do this in single user make (after I do a 'shutdown now' and am in a root shell). This isn't necessary, but it makes me feel more comfortable about possibly using utils that are going to be changing. Then I just issue the command: make world -DNOSECURE -DNOPROFILE The reason I include the -DNOSECURE is because I have a dinky little two machine network, and I don't need the added security of kerberos. The reason I put in the -DNOPROFILE is because I don't normally play around with profiled libraries, and this saves a lot of disk space. You don't need to put in either of the -D flags yourself, but you had better know how to use kernberos _before_ you do a make world with it enabled: you could very easily find yourself locked out of your own machine. OK, the make world will run a long time. On my 486-66 it takes maybe 10-12 hours. When it is finished, everything in your OS _excepting_ your kernel is new. AT this point I normally make a new kernel, install it, and do a reboot. Good luck! ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 12:35:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA02409 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02375 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pst@localhost) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) id MAA03363 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:34:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:34:24 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Traina Message-Id: <199601042034.MAA03363@precipice.shockwave.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: spell(1) replacement? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Have we never done a spell(1) replacement for FreeBSD!? I just tried to run spell to no avail. Sigh. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 12:44:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA03115 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [134.24.4.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03104 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from puffin.pelican.com by pelican.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0tXwW0-000K2nC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:44 WET Received: by puffin.pelican.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0tXwVz-0000SMC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:43 PST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:43 PST From: pete@puffin.pelican.com (Pete Carah) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thruput at 28.8 slower than 24.4. Huh? In-Reply-To: <199601040452.UAA03578@wsantee.oz.net> Cc: wsantee@wsantee.oz.net Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article <199601040452.UAA03578@wsantee.oz.net> you write: >- FreeBSD 2.1 running IIJPPP w/tun0 running at 750 MRU >- Supra 28.8bps external FaxModem w/latest ROMS, hi-speed UART, etc >- Connected to Port Livingston terminal servers w/US Robotics >Courier v.Everything's >When the receive speed of my modem is set to 24.4 - 26.6bps, >everything is smooth as silk. When I get a true 28.8 connection, >however, my throughput slows down to about 1/10th the speed it was >running at w/26.6bps or below. At 28.8, I'll get a burst of >something, then nothing for a couple seconds, then another burst, >etc. At 26.6 data just streams away. First, short (and probably impractical) answer: complain to your phone company. Most of them don't guarantee the kind of phase precision that 28k service requires. >Any ideas from the software side what this might be before >suspecting hardware? It may be an incompatible V.34 implementation or a phone company phase problem. The cause of the bursty behaviour is most likely V.42 ARQ retries. Are the bursts reflected exactly in the modem lights or do retries show there too? (the modem lights won't show received data during V.42 retries.) Longer, probably better answer: Configure your modem for a maximum carrier speed of 26.4k (or whatever) so it won't even try 28. Most modems allow for this either in an S register or &N (or such). I don't have a supra so can't tell you... If you put this command in the dial string then it'll still use 28k when it can. (generally configure modems in unix bidirectional use with &D3 so they will reset on DTR drop). A 33.6k upgrade for the USR end may also help in the long run; it makes the USR protocol a bit more robust at 28k also; see http://www.usr.com/ for details or call your local USR customer support. -- Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 12:47:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA03314 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03307 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA15128; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:44:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id PAA07201; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:44:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:44:33 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@cappuccino.eng.umd.edu To: Terry Lambert cc: Marty Leisner , terry@lambert.org, d_burr@ix.netcom.com, web@merit.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? In-Reply-To: <199601041747.KAA18045@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > My understanding is the Bill Joy vi doesn't even catch SIGWINCH... > > > > Would you prefer a vi (like Sun's) which doesn't resize in an xterm? > > I think the "SIGnal WINdow CHange" is actually Sun-specific. It's in FreeBSD: n3lxx:/usr/include:44 >grep SIGWINCH sys/* sys/signal.h:#define SIGWINCH 28 /* window size changes */ and I think that less uses it already. > > No, I wouldn't prefer that. > > But typing "^Z" and "fg\r" shouldn't break my cursor keys on a VT100, > the standard by which all other terminals are judged. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 12:58:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA03680 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:58:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03675 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 12:58:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA03256; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:55:16 -0600 Message-Id: <9601042055.AA03256@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:55:16 -0600 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Fremont for BSD Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know of a FreeBSD port for Fremont? TIA, Dan EIschen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 13:04:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA04006 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04001 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01662; Thu, 4 Jan 96 15:04:41 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA28383; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:04:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:04:40 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601042104.AA28383@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: snorthcutt@1stresource.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601042013.PAA07032@nameserver.1stresource.com> (snorthcutt@1stresource.com) Subject: Re: X and xterm questions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Northcutt writes: Scott> Greetings, This is perhaps the wrong forum for these Scott> queries, but, if nothing else, it'll be a good jumping off Scott> point. Here goes... 1) I recently ftp'd the xv-3.10a .tgz Scott> file, decompressed it, and type make. it cruised along Scott> fine for a while and then died while trying to find Scott> /X11/Xlib.h and a few other similar header-type files. My Scott> question is, how do I acquire those needed files? My Scott> /usr/X11R6 directory has bin, man, lib, and include Scott> directories in it. Am I missing a source directory or Scott> something? Sounds like it, yes. You need to install the files from the archive X312prog.tgz. To do so, you probably just need to type su (Enter root's password.) tar xz -C /usr -f /where/ever/it/is/X312prog.tgz Scott> 2) In specifying command line parameters for my xterms in Scott> .xinitrc, I've finally discovered how to make scroll-bars Scott> with a big buffer automatically start on the xterm. You know, an even better way to do this is to use the X resource database. In your .Xresources or .Xdefaults file (whichever one you have loaded when you start X windows), put these lines: XTerm*scrollBar: True XTerm*saveLines: 2048 Now, every xterm you start will have a scroll bar and will save 2048 lines. Only those that use the -sb and -sl options will override these defaults. Scott> What I haven't been able to ascertain is how to use the -fn Scott> switch such that a bigger font is the default. I tried Scott> "-fn large" but I think it needs a font name and/or size. Scott> How do I find out what font is being used, then tell it to Scott> make it bigger? I use these programs: xfontsel To interactively select fonts xlsfonts To get a list of fonts at the command line xfd To display all the characters in a font xfontsel is probably the most useful. Run it, then manipulate the menus until you find a font you like. You can even see the font in an xterm by pressing the ``Select'' button in xfontsel. Then, while holding down CTRL, press and hold mouse button 3 in an xterm window and choose the item ``Selection.'' When you like the font you've got and want to make it permanent, just put it into your X resources, such as: *VT100*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-13-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A few other resources you might find useful ... these affect the font menu in xterms on CTRL+Button-3. *fontMenu*font1*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *fontMenu*font1*Label: LucidaType 14 *fontMenu*font2*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *fontMenu*font2*Label: LucidaType 18 *fontMenu*font3*font: -*-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-240-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 *fontMenu*font3*Label: Courier 14 *fontMenu*font4*font: -*-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-240-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 *fontMenu*font4*Label: Courier 24 *fontMenu*font5*font: 10x20 *fontMenu*font5*Label: 10x20 *fontMenu*font6*Label: Nil -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA I don't think I'm alone when I say I'd like to see more and more planets fall under the ruthless domination of our solar system. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 13:07:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA04144 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04135 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:07:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA07214 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:09:11 -0500 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199601042109.QAA07214@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Netboot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:09:11 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have installed the latest FreeBSD from the cdrom and have followed the directions to setup diskless booting from the handbook. I am trying to get the netboot program to work correctly but when I run it on a dos machine, it locks the machine up tight. I have searched the mail database and the news database for a solution but all I found was something about stripped headers from terry. I note that this version is stripped in the the process of building but it still fails. It also shows up like this : root@cscpk # file netboot.com netboot.com: PDP-11 executable not stripped So next check: I logged into freefall and copied the /sys/i386/boot/netboot files to my home and built it there... same thing. branson@freefall.freebsd.org > file netboot.com netboot.com: PDP-11 executable not stripped So I am not sure what is going on here. If someone has some idea I would really appreciate it. The other Dos .com files that I have on my system all show up correctly so I can only assume that this is not getting built correctly. Any Ideas? -branson -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | work: e.b.matheson@larc.nasa.gov CSC SysAdmin | http://longstreet.larc.nasa.gov/~branson (w) 804-864-9700 |all other: ebm@visi.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 13:08:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA04270 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from aleph.lpi.ac.ru (aleph.lpi.ac.ru [147.45.17.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04134 Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from td.lpi.ac.ru by aleph.lpi.ac.ru with ESMTP id AAA12093; (8.6.8/D) Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:01:01 +0300 Received: by td.lpi.ac.ru id AAA03695; (8.6.11/D) Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:00:37 +0300 To: doc@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Organization: Department of Theoretical Physics. Lebedev Physical Institute. From: "Maksim Stolyarov" Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:00:37 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] Subject: LinuxEmu Doc / Together? Lines: 427 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to: > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) > From: Doug White > Subject: Linux Emulation now operational! :) > In any case, it IS working! I am thinking of working up some formal docs > on how to get linuxemu up, and hopefully get it added to places like the > FAQ or Handbook. > Thanks all! > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major Hi All! I found in my mail-archive some semi-ready docs on LinuxEmu. Doug (and maybe authors of that docs also? somebody else?), we could fill this "white spot" in FAQ/Handbook. In principle I could coordinate this small sub-project but my English is not very perfect for writing docs. Maybe these HOWTO(s) will be useful for someone in future mail-archive searches ... Please send any suggestions to mns@lpi.ac.ru Best regards, Maksim. P.S. Sorry for such HUGE mail tail :-) ############################################################################ LinuxEmu/HOWTO 1/2 ------------------ * Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 09:27:00 -0500 * From: Rich Murphey * Subject: linux compatibility man page I took netbsd's man page for linux compatibility and added a brief installation guide. I've sent Jordan the nroff source for review. Any suggestions are welcome! Many thanks to Soren Schmidt for the emulator itself! Rich COMPAT LINUX(8) UNIX System Manager's Manual COMPAT LINUX(8) - - NAME COMPAT LINUX - setup procedure for running Linux binaries - INSTALL In order to run static and dynamicly linked Linux binaries, you need a kernel configured with options COMPAT LINUX. Include options SYSVSHM as - well if you plan to run the linux version of doom. cd /sys/i386/conf echo options '"COMPAT LINUX"' >> GENERIC - echo options SYSVSHM >> GENERIC config GENERIC cd /sys/compile/GENERIC make depend; make make install If you don't already have it, build the loadable kernel module /lkm/linux mod.o. - cd /usr/src/lkm/linux make all install clean Once you have both the kernel and lkm installed, invoke linux as root to load the emulator into the kernel. TESTING To test the emulator using the linux version of the game doom, first get the linux shared libraries. mkdir /compat/linux cd /compat/linux ncftp ftp.freebsd.org:pub/FreeBSD/2.0.5-RELEASE/xperimnt/linux-emu/linux-emu.tar.gz tar xzf linux-emu.tar.gz rm -rf usr lkm linux-emu.tar.gz The lkm and usr portion of this tar file are redundant since you already have the lkm and /usr/bin/linux. Next install doom itself. ncftp ftp.freebsd.org:pub/FreeBSD/2.0.5-RELEASE/xperimnt/linux-emu/linux-doom-1.8.tar.gz tar xzf linux-doom-1.8.tar.gz cd doom-1.8 xdoom DESCRIPTION Most Linux binaries should work, except programs that use Linux-specific features. These include the Linux /proc filesystem (which is different from the optional FreeBSD /proc filesystem), and i386-specific calls, such as enabling virtual 8086 mode. Many linux programs are dynamically linked. So you will also need the Linux shared libraries that the program depends on, and the runtime link- er. Also, you will need to create a "shadow root" directory for Linux binaries on your FreeBSD system. This directory is named /compat/linux. Any file operations done by Linux programs run under FreeBSD will look in this directory first. So, if a Linux program opens, for example, /etc/passwd, FreeBSD will first try to open /compat/linux/etc/passwd, and if that does not exist open the packages that include configuration files, etc under /compat/linux, to avoid naming conflicts with possible FreeBSD counterparts. Shared libraries should also be installed in the shadow tree. Generally, you will need to look for the shared libraries that Linux bi- naries depend on only the first few times that you install a Linux pro- gram on your FreeBSD system. After a while, you will have a sufficient set of Linux shared libraries on your system to be able to run newly im- ported Linux binaries without any extra work. Setting up shared libraries How to get to know which shared libraries Linux binaries need, and where to get them? Basically, there are 2 possibilities (when following these instructions: you will need to be root on your FreeBSD system to do the necessary installation steps). 1. If you have access to a Linux system, see what shared libraries it needs, and copy them to your FreeBSD system. Example: you have just ftp-ed the Linux binary of Doom. Put it on the Linux system you have access to, and check which shared libraries it needs by running `ldd linuxxdoom': (me@linux) ldd linuxxdoom libXt.so.3 (DLL Jump 3.1) => /usr/X11/lib/libXt.so.3.1.0 libX11.so.3 (DLL Jump 3.1) => /usr/X11/lib/libX11.so.3.1.0 libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) => /lib/libc.so.4.6.29 You would need go get all the files from the last column, and put them under /compat/linux, with the names in the first column as sym- bolic links pointing to them. This means you eventually have these files on your FreeBSD system: /compat/linux/usr/X11/lib/libXt.so.3.1.0 /compat/linux/usr/X11/lib/libXt.so.3 (symbolic link to the above) /compat/linux/usr/X11/lib/libX11.so.3.1.0 /compat/linux/usr/X11/lib/libX11.so.3 (symbolic link to the above) /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.4.6.29 /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.4 (symbolic link to the above) Note that if you already have a Linux shared library with a matching major revision number to the first column of the 'ldd' output, you won't need to copy the file named in the last column to your system, the one you already have should work. It is advisable to copy the shared library anyway if it is a newer version, though. You can re- move the old one, as long as you make the symbolic link point to the new one. So, if you have these libraries on your system: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.4.6.27 /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.4 -> /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.4.6.27 and you find that the ldd output for a new binary you want to in- stall is: libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) => /lib/libc.so.4.6.29 you won't need to worry about copying /lib/libc.so.4.6.29 too, be- cause the program should work fine with the slightly older version. You can decide to replace the libc.so anyway, and that should leave you with: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.4.6.29 /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.4 -> /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.4.6.29 Please note that the symbolic link mechanism is only needed for Lin- ux binaries, the FreeBSD runtime linker takes care of looking for matching major revision numbers itself, you don't need to worry about that. Finally, you must make sure that you have the Linux runtime linker and its config files on your system. You should copy these files from the Linux system to their appropriate place on your FreeBSD system (to the /compat/linux tree): /lib/ld.so /etc/ld.so.cache /etc/ld.so.config 2. You don't have access to a Linux system. In that case, you should get the extra files you need from various ftp sites. Information on where to look for the various files is appended below. For now, let's assume you know where to get the files. Retrieve the following files (all from the same ftp site to avoid any version mismatches), and install them under /compat/linux (i.e. /foo/bar is installed as /compat/linux/foo/bar): /sbin/ldconfig /usr/bin/ldd /lib/libc.so.x.y.z /lib/ld.so ldconfig and ldd don't necessarily need to be under /compat/linux, you can install them elsewhere in the system too. Just make sure they don't conflict with their FreeBSD counterparts. A good idea would be to install them in /usr/local/bin as ldconfig-linux and ldd-linux. Create the file /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf, containing the direc- tories in which the Linux runtime linker should look for shared libs. It is a plain text file, containing a directory name on each line. /lib and /usr/lib are standard, you could add the following: /usr/X11/lib /usr/local/lib Note that these are mapped to /compat/linux/XXXX by FreeBSD's compat code, and should exist as such on your system. Run the Linux ldconfig program. It should be statically linked, so it doesn't need any shared libraries by itself. It will create the file /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache You should rerun the Linux ver- sion of the ldconfig program each time you add a new shared library. You should now be set up for Linux binaries which only need a shared libc. You can test this by running the Linux ldd on itself. Suppose that you have it installed as ldd-linux, it should produce something like: (me@FreeBSD) ldd-linux `which ldd-linux` libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) => /lib/libc.so.4.6.29 This being done, you are ready to install new Linux binaries. When- ever you install a new Linux program, you should check if it needs shared libraries, and if so, whether you have them installed in the /compat/linux tree. To do this, you run the Linux version ldd on the new program, and watch its output. ldd (see also the manual page for ldd(1)) will print a list of shared libraries that the program depends on, in the form () => . If it prints "not found" in stead of it means that you need an extra library. Which library this is, is shown in , which will be of the form libXXXX.so. You will need to find a libXXXX.so.. on a Linux ftp site, and install it on your system. The XXXX (name) and (major revision number) should match; the minor number(s) are less important, though it is ad- vised to take the most recent version. Finding the necessary files. Note: the information below is valid as of the ime this document was written (March, 1995), but certain details such as names of ftp sites, directories and distribution names may have changed by the time you read this. Linux is distributed by several groups that make their own set of bina- ries that they distribute. Each distribution has its own name, like "Slackware" or "Yggdrasil". The distributions are available on a lot of ftp sites. Sometimes the files are unpacked, and you can get the individ- ual files you need, but mostly they are stored in distribution sets, usu- ally consisting of subdirectories with gzipped tar files in them. The primary ftp sites for the distributions are: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/distributions tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/distributions Some European mirrors: ftp.luth.se:/pub/linux/distributions ftp.demon.co.uk:/pub/linux/distributions src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/packages/linux/distributions For simplicity, let's concentrate on Slackware here. This distribution consists of a number of subdirectories, containing separate packages. Normally, they're controlled by an install program, but you can retrieve files "by hand" too. First of all, you will need to look in the "con- tents" subdir of the distribution. You will find a lot of small textfiles here describing the contents of the seperate packages. The fastest way to look something up is to retrieve all the files in the contents subdirec- tory, and grep through them for the file you need. Here is an example of a list of files that you might need, and in which contents-file you will find it by grepping through them: Needed Package ld.so ldso ldconfig ldso ldd ldso libc.so.4 shlibs libX11.so.6.0 xf lib - libXt.so.6.0 xf lib - libX11.so.3 oldlibs libXt.so.3 oldlibs So, in this case, you will need the packages ldso, shlibs, xf lib and - oldlibs. In each of the contents-files for these packages, look for a line saying "PACKAGE LOCATION", it will tell you on which 'disk' the package is, in our case it will tell us in which subdirectory we need to look. For our example, we would find the following locations: Package Location ldso diska2 shlibs diska2 oldlibs diskx6 xf lib diskx9 - The locations called "diskXX" refer to the "slakware/XX" subdirectories of the distribution, others may be found in the "contrib" subdirectory. In this case, we could now retrieve the packages we need by retrieving the following files (relative to the root of the Slackware distribution tree): slakware/a2/ldso.tgz slakware/a2/shlibs.tgz slakware/x6/oldlibs/tgz slakware/x9/xf lib.tgz - Extract the files from these gzipped tarfiles in your /compat/linux di- rectory (possibly omitting or afterwards removing files you don't need), and you are done. BUGS The information about Linux distributions may become outdated. SEE ALSO ftp.freebsd.org:pub/FreeBSD/2.0.5-RELEASE/xperimnt/linux-emu/README /usr/src/sys/i386/ibcs2/README.iBCS2 4th Berkeley Distribution March 2, 1995 5 ############################################################################ LinuxEmu/HOWTO 2/2 ------------------ * Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:26:56 -0500 * From: Brian Clapper * Subject: Re: Linux Emulation I just got the Linux version of Netscape (1.2) running with no problem on FreeBSD 2.1. (It's not that I actually want to *use* Linux's Netscape, but it's a bloated enough application to make a good test case.) Here are the steps I followed: 1. Build a new kernel, with the following option: options COMPAT_LINUX 2. Install the kernel and reboot. (Of course.) 3. Load the Linux compatibility module: odo (/usr/local/bin) # modload -e linux_init /lkm/linux_mod.o Linux emulator installed Module loaded as ID 0 odo (/usr/local/bin) # modstat Type Id Off Loadaddr Size Info Rev Module Name EXEC 0 3 f0925000 0018 f092a000 1 linux_emulator 4. Install the Linux compatibility libraries from the Ports collection: a. Get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/emulators/linux_lib.tar.gz b. Extract it. c. Build it. d. Install it. It creates files in /compat/linux/lib 5. Try to run your application. Now, when I tried to run the Linux version of Netscape, it came up, but aborted with the following errors: resolv+: "bind" is an invalid keyword resolv+: "hosts" is an invalid keyword It turns out Linux has an "/etc/host.conf" and FreeBSD has one, but they appear to be incompatible. I moved my "/etc/host.conf" out of the way (temporarily), and the Linux Netscape came up perfectly. Of course, I connected to "www.freebsd.org" as a test... Perhaps there's a way to point the Linux executables at a separate /etc tree which contains a Linux "host.conf". If there is, I don't know how, though. ---- Brian Clapper, bmc@telebase.com, http://www.netaxs.com/~bmc/ "In defeat, unbeatable; in victory, unbearable." -- Winston Curchill, of Montgomery --- Maksim N. Stolyarov -> mns@lpi.ac.ru <- | Vesso-Link pager Department of Theoretical Physics, | +7(095)974-0111, pager 4597 Lebedev Physical Institute, RAS | Email -> Pager Leninskii 53, 117924, Moscow, Russia | pager@vlpage.sovam.com fax: +7(95)135-8533, tel: +7(95)132-6024 | vl#4597 - first line of mail body From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 13:10:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA04407 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04395 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01699; Thu, 4 Jan 96 15:10:30 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA28390; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:10:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:10:29 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601042110.AA28390@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: humprey@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601041938.NAA00523@brasil.moneng.mei.com> (message from Joe Greco on Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:38:00 -0600 (CST)) Subject: Re: Can somebody shed some light on this fellow's question? (was: Re: SB16) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > controller snd0 > options "SBC_IRQ=5" > > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 You need the `conflicts' keyword: device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA When you're going up the stairs and you take a step, kick the other leg up high behind you to keep people from following too close. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 13:41:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA06897 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from zappa.cs.uncc.edu (zappa.cs.uncc.edu [152.15.35.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06878 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:41:38 -0800 (PST) From: jlrobins@zappa.cs.uncc.edu Received: by zappa.cs.uncc.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05294; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:32:19 -0500 Message-Id: <9601042132.AA05294@zappa.cs.uncc.edu> Subject: pppd only works right the first time :-( To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:32:18 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Yet another PPP question -- 2.1-stable I have a site that I'm trying to set up as a one line PPP server using pppd. It answers the telephone correctly for shell use. After a reboot, the first call is handled perfectly. It ifconfigs the ppp0 interface, it adds the route, and then proxyarp's for the remote machine. Cool Moe D. When the second call comes in, pppd gets started up and complains with "ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): Address already exists". No route entry is added. No proxy arp is done. Person on the other end can't see anywhere. Local IP addr: 152.15.35.100 Remote addr: 152.15.35.101 Routing table after successful (first) conection: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 152.15.254.254 UGSc 0 0 ed0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 152.15 link#1 UC 0 0 152.15.10.88 0:0:c:17:3b:12 UHLW 0 27 ed0 1140 152.15.32.8 0:0:c0:fc:65:78 UHLW 1 3 ed0 1140 152.15.35.2 8:0:20:1a:b9:36 UHLW 7 323 ed0 1140 152.15.35.5 0:0:c0:fa:65:78 UHLW 3 60 lo0 152.15.35.6 8:0:69:9:2:e4 UHLW 0 208 ed0 1143 152.15.35.101 152.15.35.100 UH 0 0 ppp0 152.15.35.101 0:0:c0:fa:65:78 UHLS2 0 0 ed0 152.15.254.254 link#1 UHLW 1 0 152.15.255.255 link#1 UHLW 0 1 ifconfig ppp0 read fine as well, although I don't have a copy of the output anymore. /etc/ppp/options: crtscts netmask 255.255.255.255 152.15.35.100:152.15.35.101 domain uncc.edu proxyarp lcp-echo-interval 160 lcp-echo-failure 20 modem lock mru 1006 mtu 1006 /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down only print something to the console. /etc/sysconfig does not mention ppp0 in the list of interfaces to manipulate, as it seems pppd correctly does the ifconfiging (the first time, anyway). Is there some magic to be done perhaps in /etc/ppp/ip-down? Anyone seen this behavior before? Workaround avail? TIA, James Robinson From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 13:48:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA07268 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07260 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA02141; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:39:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:39:36 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601042139.OAA02141@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Paul Traina Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spell(1) replacement? In-Reply-To: <199601042034.MAA03363@precipice.shockwave.com> References: <199601042034.MAA03363@precipice.shockwave.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Have we never done a spell(1) replacement for FreeBSD!? > I just tried to run spell to no avail. ispell is a spell super-set. I think you can run it in 'spell' compatability mode. 'ispell' is a very nice package, though somewhat of a pig. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 13:52:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA07875 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from vhf.dataradio.com (G496.InterLink.NET [198.168.61.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07849 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:52:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from dri.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by vhf.dataradio.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id QAA24588 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:52:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199601042152.QAA24588@vhf.dataradio.com> Received: by dri (UUXFER v1.4d); Thu 04 Jan 1996 16:52:06 EST From: "Andrew Webster" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:51:37 +0000 Subject: FreeBSD on GIGA-Byte MB? X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Andrew Webster" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any successful experiences running FreeBSD on GIGA-BYTE motherboards that use the Intel Triton Chip set? Thanks! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Webster Network Manager / Special Projects Dataradio Inc. 200-5500 Royalmount Ave. TEL: +1 514 737 0020 Town of Mount Royal, QC, CANADA H4P 1H7 FAX: +1 514 737 7883 http://www.dataradio.com Email: awebster@dataradio.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 14:08:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA09878 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09861 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA02214; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:10:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:10:09 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601042210.PAA02214@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: jlrobins@zappa.cs.uncc.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd only works right the first time :-( In-Reply-To: <9601042132.AA05294@zappa.cs.uncc.edu> References: <9601042132.AA05294@zappa.cs.uncc.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk jlrobins@zappa.cs.uncc.edu writes: > Yet another PPP question -- 2.1-stable > > I have a site that I'm trying to set up as a one line PPP server using > pppd. It answers the telephone correctly for shell use. > > After a reboot, the first call is handled perfectly. It ifconfigs the > ppp0 interface, it adds the route, and then proxyarp's for the remote > machine. Cool Moe D. > > When the second call comes in, pppd gets started up and complains with > "ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): Address already exists". No route entry is added. > No proxy arp is done. Person on the other end can't see anywhere. Hmm, this seems strange to me, since I've got a similar setup (but with multiple incoming lines and one outgoing line). I don't have the addresses hard-coded in my options file though. How long of a time exists between the time the first machine logs out and the second machine connects? It *could* be the arp bug I've posted about in the past, although I don't seen any errors. Is there anyway of connecting via a shell account in between and looking at the routing table? I've got a couple others ideas that might work, but let's try and track down the problem first. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 14:12:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA10608 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10595 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.6.10/ISnet/14-10-91); Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:12:38 GMT Received: from hlunkur.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.11/ISnet/12-09-94); Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:08:39 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:04:39 +0000 () From: "Gestur A. Grjetarsson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: admin@islandia.is Subject: htadm Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm trying to setup ACL with CERN 3.0 httpd from the 2.0.5 distribution. When I'm adding new users with htadm it gives me an error message (incorrect) when i run htadm -check on the passwd file i created with htadm, and it also gives me error when i try to check /etc/master.passwd . Do you have any idea what's wrong! Med kvedju Sincerely -------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson gestur@islandia.is kerfisstjori islandia.is admin@islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/~gestur http://www.islandia.is/misc/skvopn There are only three kind of people in the world ! Those who know how to count, and those who don't ! ================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 14:31:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA13595 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13580 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id RAA02944; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:30:52 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199601042230.RAA02944@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: syslog To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:30:52 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When I runs a linux netscape 2.0b4 for Java Applet, I keep getting following syslog messages: "Linux-emul(644): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn)" How can I turn that messages off? Thanks. Regards, Gang-Ryung Uh (uh@cs.fsu.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 14:35:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA14311 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14291 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03694; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:34:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601042234.OAA03694@precipice.shockwave.com> To: Nate Williams cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spell(1) replacement? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jan 1996 14:39:36 MST." <199601042139.OAA02141@rocky.sri.MT.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 14:34:37 -0800 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It's more than somewhat of a pig, but you're right, it's almost spell compatible when run with -l. Thanks. From: Nate Williams Subject: Re: spell(1) replacement? > Have we never done a spell(1) replacement for FreeBSD!? > I just tried to run spell to no avail. ispell is a spell super-set. I think you can run it in 'spell' compatability mode. 'ispell' is a very nice package, though somewhat of a pig. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 14:47:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16114 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from trondra.zetnet.co.uk (root@trondra.zetnet.co.uk [194.72.245.126]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16098 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from victoria.zetnet.co.uk (victoria.zetnet.co.uk [194.72.245.187]) by trondra.zetnet.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA20371 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:46:51 GMT Message-Id: <199601042246.WAA20371@trondra.zetnet.co.uk> To: questions@freebsd.org From: Philip Burden Subject: FreeBSD v2.1 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:45:31 GMT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dear sirs,I'm having a slight problem installing v2.1. Firstly,the installation.. dx2/66 with 16m ram 1.2G IDE drive as primary hd 633Mb SCSI 1 on a AHA2940 adapter,with HP Dat drive. IDE ATAPI CDRom cdrom connected to the 2nd channel of onboard IDE controller. I'm trying to install FreeBSD on the last,380Mb partition on the Scsi drive,after Dos & OS/2,using OS/2's Boot Manager. The install goes ok,from the ATAPI floppy,but when it ends,and the system reboots,I get the following,after the kernel is loaded and checks the devices. panic:can't mount /root same message every time,and so far I'm upto around 8 installs I realise the Atapi interface is alpha,but all seems ok on each install,with no error msgs visible.Any thoughts,or is more info required..needless to say,being a novice,I'm using the Novice install ;-) P. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 14:48:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16420 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.shlink.de (root@mail.shlink.de [194.64.6.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16413 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.shlink.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXyRy-000ScYC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 23:47 MET Received: (from hw@localhost) by thor.shn.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA01274 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:44:55 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:44:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199601042144.WAA01274@thor.shn.com> From: hw@thor.shn.com (Henning Wickhorst) Subject: User names longer than 8 chars To: questions@freebsd.org Organization: Private site Reply-To: h.wickhorst@elmshorn.netsurf.de Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I know there was a thread about that a few month ago, but i did't remember any details. But now i have a need for usernames longer than 8 chars. Would that be possible ? Regards, Henning -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Henning Wickhorst Elmshorn, Germany hw@thor.shn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 14:55:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA17329 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw0.telebase.com (root@gw0.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17315 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 14:55:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by gw0.telebase.com id RAA12291; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from odo.telebase.com (root@odo.telebase.com [172.16.2.217]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.7.1/8.6.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA01366; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bmc@localhost) by odo.telebase.com (8.6.12/8.6.9.1) id RAA05932; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:59:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:59:41 -0500 From: Brian Clapper Message-Id: <199601042259.RAA05932@telebase.com.> To: snorthcutt@1stresource.com (Scott Northcutt) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X and xterm questions In-Reply-To: <4974115@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Northcutt writes: Scott> Greetings, This is perhaps the wrong forum for these queries, but, Scott> if nothing else, it'll be a good jumping off point. Here goes... Scott> 1) I recently ftp'd the xv-3.10a .tgz file, decompressed it, and Scott> type make. it cruised along fine for a while and then died while Scott> trying to find /X11/Xlib.h and a few other similar header-type Scott> files. My question is, how do I acquire those needed files? My Scott> /usr/X11R6 directory has bin, man, lib, and include directories in Scott> it. Am I missing a source directory or something? If you're connected to the Internet, use the ported version of xv-3.10a that's in the Ports collection. Here's how: 1. Point your favorite web browser at http://www.freebsd.org/ports/graphics.html 2. Scroll down until you find `xv'. 3. Select `download'. You're downloading a `make' infrastructure and a set of patches, basically. 4. Unpack the tar file you downloaded. 5. `cd' into the top level `xv' directory (probably `pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/graphics/xv-3.10a' or something similar). 6. Type `make'. The `make' logic will automaticall ftp the source for xv to your machine, apply a series of FreeBSD patches to it, then build it. It uses `ncftp' to pull down the source; if you're behind a firewall (like I am), you'll have to find the `ncftp' sources and rebuild them to tunnel through your firewall. (We use SOCKS, so the rebuild was easy for me.) If that won't work for you, send me mail. I have a patch that'll fix your problems, but it's on my machine at home, which isn't accessible to me from work. (I patched `xv' before I found out about the ports collection.) ---- Brian Clapper, bmc@telebase.com, http://www.netaxs.com/~bmc/ Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. -- Andy Finkel, computer guy From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 15:41:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22602 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from yoda.fdt.net (root@yoda.fdt.net [205.229.48.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22574 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:41:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn005-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.6]) by yoda.fdt.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA03879; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:41:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:40:59 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: deasey@server1.netpath.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996 deasey@server1.netpath.net wrote: > I have noticed that xfmail seems to segfault about every hour and a half on sign > al 11 > anyone else have this problem ? > > Thanks > > --Jeff You are not the only one experiencing this problem. I have had this happen to me as well, trashing all unread messages when xfmail core dumps. It caused me to start using pine in an xterm window which works fine. Frank From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 15:42:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22651 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22615 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA25545; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:40:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199601042340.QAA25545@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Branson Matheson cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netboot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 16:40:45 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, > branson@freefall.freebsd.org > file netboot.com > netboot.com: PDP-11 executable not stripped you want to run: nb8390.com also, it won't work as is with a NE2000 board, write me for details if that applies. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 15:47:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23507 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23399 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00996; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:31:20 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:31:20 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: PC Artist cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot failure In-Reply-To: <9601021515.AA06991@sparc20.ncu.edu.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, PC Artist wrote: > After I use rawrite to make the installation disk, > I reboot the system. And it hangs without printing any > message. But I can boot with it on other machine. I remember reading somewhere that there is one kind of floppy disk drive that FreeBSD doesn't handle as well as it might (SCSI?). If so, swapping the floppy drive with the other machine's might help. James handle Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 15:50:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24002 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23887 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00986; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:25:03 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:25:02 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux_emu: bus error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Doug White wrote: > I can't seem to get linux emulation up. > > I compiled the sources from freebsd-current as indicated, created the > /compat/linux/* as directed, and are loading the lkm at boot time. But, > when I try to run a Linux X application, like xdoom: > > gdi,ttyp2,~/bin,54>./xdoom > Bus error Have you re-compiled your kernel with options "COMPAT_LINUX" in the config file? James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 15:51:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24233 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24212 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00975; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:21:41 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:21:41 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Brian Litzinger cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sorting by character position In-Reply-To: <199601020502.VAA23128@MediaCity.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Brian Litzinger wrote: > All I want to do is > > sort -n -d -k 14,29 sorted > > where -k 14,29 is supposed to mean that sort is supposed to consider > the data in columns 14 - 29 of each line as the key to sort by. > > However, from my reading of the sort man page, it doesn't seem to > have this functionality. However, I remember I used to be able > to do this in my SYSV days. It seems to be there in 2.1.0R:- -k POS1[,POS2] An alternate syntax for specifying sorting keys. The fields and character positions are numbered starting with 1. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 15:59:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA25098 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ra2.dt.navy.mil (ra2.dt.navy.mil [130.46.1.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25076 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ra9.dt.navy.mil by ra2.dt.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22405; Thu, 4 Jan 96 19:03:44 EST Received: by ra9.dt.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07723; Thu, 4 Jan 96 18:57:52 EST Date: Thu, 4 Jan 96 18:57:52 EST From: watts@ra9.dt.navy.mil (Kim Watts) Message-Id: <9601042357.AA07723@ra9.dt.navy.mil> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: laptop / PCMCIA SCSI controller? Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NCSA Mosaic 2.6 on Sun X-Url: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm interested in using FreeBSD on a Gateway 2000 Colorbook computer (486DX4-75, 20MB RAM, 340MB disk) and want to be able to talk to SCSI tapes/ disks through a NewMediaCorp PCMCIA SCSI card, and am wondering if you can provide any hints as to my chances of success. I primarily use a Sun Sparc-2 running SUNOS4.1.4, but occaisionally go on the road with my notebook. It would be helpful to access tar files, etc on SCSI tapes with my notebook. (And I would just as soon work completely in Unix, anyway.) If I have to write device drivers for PCMCIA, I probably won't try it. Thank you for your time ... Kim Watts (watts@oasys.dt.navy.mil or watts@ra9.dt.navy.mil) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 16:10:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA26464 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26458 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA00333 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:10:16 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 5 Jan 96 10:10:17 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 5 Jan 96 10:09:48 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:09:42 -1000 Subject: duplicating a disk Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <1AE4686642B@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my 2.0.5 system to 2.1, but don't want to have it off line for very long. I have a second disk the same as the one 2.0.5 is on, so perhaps I can just copy the whole disk to it? If I put the disk into the 2.0.5 system and make sure it's configured for wd1 can I then type something like "cp /dev/rwd0 /dev/rwd1" to duplicate the disk? I could then upgrade one disk offline, then install it in the working host to test, and have a good backup. Will this work? TIA peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 16:10:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA26501 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from bhoss.ifx.net ([206.25.218.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26480 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from wjh@bhoss.ifx.net (bhoss.ifx.net [206.25.218.3]) by bhoss.ifx.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00356 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:15:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:15:50 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD Reply-To: wjh@bhoss.ifx.net From: Bill Henderson To: Subject: Tar backup to another machine ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can someone help me with the syntax for running tar on one machine outputing the file on the other? two machines from home:/ to bhoss:/usr/back.tar From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 16:27:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28977 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:27:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28958 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id TAA03389; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:27:41 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199601050027.TAA03389@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: rplay To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:27:40 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am currently running FreeBSD 2.1 right now. From the FreeBSD 2.1 CD port collection, I try to build rplay-3.2.ob3, but I encounter following error messages: Checksums OK. ===> Configuring for rplay-3.2.0b3 Removing disgusting malloc.h includes. Please wait.. Done. configure: error: can not find sources in ../configure or .. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. If you make that port successfully, then would you tell me what I do wrong here... Thansk. Regards, Gang-Ryung Uh (uh@cs.fsu.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 16:43:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA01512 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-15.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01499 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA02908; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:47:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:47:47 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: a couple host.conf and nameserver questions... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I run FreeBSD 2.1-release on my 486/66, which is connected to the rest of the world via a 28.8 PPP connection. Naturally, this ain't no 56k line, and so things tend to bog down sometimes, especially when I'm FTP'ing in another session or something. This especially hurts stuff like IP->hostname resolution, e.g. when using the "netstat" command or similar. So I decided to try something: I figured, as an experiment, to put the IP addresses and hostnames of some commonly-used hosts (ftp.cdrom.com, ftp.freebsd.org, all the various netcom servers, etc.) into /etc/hosts. Because I remember vaguely that there is a way to tell UNIX to search /etc/hosts BEFORE going out on the net and consulting a nameserver. Back in my heydey of Ultrix, I remember there was a file called something like /etc/svc.conf where I could say something like "hosts = hosts, bind", which basically meant that the system would look in /etc/hosts to resolve IP addresses to names, before checking the nameserver. (Please excuse any mistakes, it's been a long time, and one I'd rather forget...) More recently, when running LInux, I could use the /etc/host.conf and put "order = hosts, bind" in it to do the same thing. But apparently, FreeBSD doesn't work that way. If I just put "hosts" alone in /etc/host.conf, then it works fine. But if I try accessing a host that's not in /etc/hosts, it craps out wiht an error. OK, this makes sense. But it isn't quite the desired behaviour. If I put: bind hosts in it, then it checks the nameserver first, and if the nameserver doesn't know about it, THEN it looks in /etc/hosts. This works too -- the nameserver knows about Internet hosts I'm contacting, but DOESN'T know about hosts on my local ("fake") ethernet. But /etc/hosts knows about these, so everything is still cool. BUT (and here's the clincher), if I put: hosts bind in /etc/host.conf... well, you'd figure that it'll check the hosts file first, and if it can't find it, it'll check the nameserver. WRONG!! It still insists on checking the nameserver first, then /etc/hosts. Not the desired behavior either. So what's going on here? Is this a bug in the shared libraries, or the networking code, or whatnot? (FYI, this system usd to be a 2.0.5 box, so MAYBE some old 2.0.5 stuff is still hanging around... if this behavior is fixed in 2.1, then that it might be the time to throw caution to the wind and go ahead and do a full re-install) Now, on an aside: Is it possible for me to set up a SMALL nameserver (named) on my machine that will somehow CACHE all recent IP->host mappings that my box does, so taht if I've associated an IP with a host name already, it won't have to go out on the ppp link to access the internet? enquiring minds want to know... Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 16:49:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA02812 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:49:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02792 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA09262; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:48:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:48:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Luigi Rizzo cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Q] bus architecture books In-Reply-To: <199601040452.FAA24299@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > "Programming Plug and Play" (w/ disk) Kelsey, $40 > > > "Plug and Play System Architecture" Shanley & Anderson, $30 > > > > if Shanley & Anderson have continued the excellence of their > > isa/386, 486, 586, pci series then this is the book to get. > > May I ask if you have references to some good book which deals with > the various PC busses (ISA, EISA, VLB, PCI) ? Possibly ISBN and > publisher. Rod grimes is the real authority on this. i use the following isa system architecture, tom shanley adn don anderson, mindshare inc. isbn 1-881609-05-7 recently republished by addison-wesley pages 301-387 are isa bus, dma, interrupt system pci system architecture, tom shanley adn don anderson, mindshare inc. isbn -1881609-08-1 recently republished by addison-wesley pci bus only page 31-227, i82420 (saturn i??) pages 277-317 eisa system architecture, tom shanley only, mindshare inc. dont have the isbn recently republished by addison-wesley mindshare@interserve.com annabooks puts out some as well, that one is at work, not here, sorry. Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 16:56:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA04296 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA04290 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZMBAKK0A88WWXUO@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Jan 1996 16:56:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 16:56:45 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Some BASH Shell programming questions. To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZMBAKK3428WWXUO@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone - I just have some quick questions about bash shell scripts. I'm writing a simple menu system for a friend who wants to use my system. First, can I write functions within a bash shell? Right now I have a main menu which calls a different script fro each additional menu. This I suppose can take up processor time since it spawns a bash shell for each. SO - can I have functions, one for each menu, in a single shell script. (Im sure I can, just dont know how) Second, is it possible to capture ^C and such so that a person can't exit out of the menu, or if they could, that at least it would output a message telling them how to get back to the menu? Third, this is probably also REALLY simple, but I'm a beginner. I am putting a prompt for each menu, as such: Command > _ But the cursor is always where the '_" is here, since I use the echo command. Is there a way to keep the cursor right after the Command >_ ? I know that this would probably be better sent to a newsgroup on shell programming, but I don't have usenet access right now. Thanks everyone! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 17:45:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA12115 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12095 Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA09411; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:45:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:45:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: security@FreeBSD.ORG cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PASV, FreeBSD does! sunos fails. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk my new employer is a large sun shop. sparcs and ncd's everywhere. we also have a firewall to pass through. NONE of the suns have an ftp client that supports PASV. FreeBSD 2.1R does. ;) tomorrow i will be recompiling FreeBSD 2.1R ftp code on sunos 4.1.3 and porting it to sunos 5.4 score two points, gentlemen. i believe that a one line message will appear everytime the 'new' ftp is run. "This application ported from FreeBSD 2.1" jmb ps what is PASV?? ftp uses two tcp connections, one for commands and one for data transfers (files and ls output for instance). the ftp client (some high port) connects to the server (port 21) to create the command connection. the server (port 20) connects to the client (high port) to return the data. some firewalls filter out incoming tcp connections (ip flags has SYN set, ACK not set). so ftp does not work. enter PASV. the client creates both the command and the data connections to the server. all packets from the server have both SYN and ACK set. Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 17:48:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA12462 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [205.162.141.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12435 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.nightflight (laptop [205.162.141.3]) by nightflight.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA25382 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:52:19 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:52:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199601050152.RAA25382@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Crutcher Subject: @.1 Installation on 2nd SCSI drive Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a Web site using FreeBSD 2.05. I have a 2nd SCSI drive I just installed. I need to keep my site up and running during the change over to v2.1. I plan on getting the 2.1 CD from Walnut Creek to do this. 1. Is it possible to install v2.1 on the 2nd SCSI drive? 2. If so, how would I go about doing this, and then make the switch over. Each drive has a 2.1 GB capacity. Thanks, Gary Crutcher Webmaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com 'Flights throughout the Internet' voice: 619-631-0666 ----------------------------------------------------------------------  From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 17:54:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA13803 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line16.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.148]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13749 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00720; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:54:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Fabian Schonholz cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Configuring FreeX86 In-Reply-To: <30EC138B.5AAC@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Fabian Schonholz wrote: > Hi. I purchased and installed FreeBSD 2.1, however, I am having some > problems configuring X11R6. > > I have a monitor thta runs at 100MHz, with 30-64 KHz hsync and > 50-100KHz vsync. My video card is a ATI WinTurbo with the Mach-64 > chipset. This is close enough to mine :-) 1. Use the XF86_Ma64 server. 2. Uncomment a bunch of the Modelines. The server will start complaining when it can't get to certain modes. 3. Modify the Screens section as appropriate. Perhaps my XF86Config file would be of service. I hate to throw it around everywhere, but can be useful. # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" Device "/dev/cuaa0" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) # Emulate3Buttons # Emulate3Timeout 50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "DX17F" VendorName "Mag Innovision" ModelName "DX17F" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-100 # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # Mode "1024x768i" # DotClock 45 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" # EndMode # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically # used. # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync #Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync #Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 # 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 # 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064 # Low-res Doublescan modes # If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed' # resolution like 320x400. # 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 602 312 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan # some test resolutions Modeline "1025x769" 135 1024 1134 1647 1677 768 769 781 1320 EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present # Standard VGA Device: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection # Sample Device for accelerated server: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" Identifier "ATI WinBoost Mach64" VendorName "ATI" BoardName "WinBoost " #VideoRam 2048 Clocks 50.35 56.64 63.00 72.00 40.00 44.90 49.50 50.00 Clocks 0.00 110.00 126.00 135.00 0.00 80.00 75.00 65.00 Clocks 25.18 28.32 31.50 36.00 20.00 22.45 24.75 25.00 Clocks 0.00 55.00 63.00 67.50 0.00 40.00 37.50 32.50 Option "power_saver" # Option "dac_8_bit" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "Generic VGA" #Device "ATI WinBoost Mach64" Monitor "DX17F" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 #Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 320 200 #Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-color VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "DX17F" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "DX17F" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "ATI WinBoost Mach64" Monitor "DX17F" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 #Virtual 1280 1024 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "1025x769" "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection I moved around the resolutions so that the one I want by default is first. I also modified /usr/X11/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers and added a `-bpp 16' to put the server into 64k colors mode. Netscape looks like crap otherwise. Hope this helps. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 18:28:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA20070 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from albion.loach.org (root@loach.org [199.233.190.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20047 Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alexei@localhost) by albion.loach.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA05731; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:30:06 GMT From: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov Message-Id: <199601041830.SAA05731@albion.loach.org> Subject: Re: two isp's, one net To: jmb@freebsd.org (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:30:01 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 4, 96 07:34:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > how do i set up a the routers and routes so that i can have two internet > connections supporting a single organization. when one isp fails (far > too often these days what with mci and alternet and sprint and.....) i want > the other line to carry all the traffic. our service is a full T-1 on > one line and metered T-1 on the other, therefore traffic load balancing > is NOT desireable. > > > The Internet > | | > | | > | | > ---------- ---------- > | router | | router | > ---------- ---------- > | | > | | > ---------------------------------------ethernet > | > | > the inside > > > are two default routes legal??? how would the kernel decide > between them?? can i do two default routes with different metrics, one 0 > and one, say 4??? > > jmb > > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life > i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > > I am not believing this can be accomplished without peering with providers at Network Access Points like MAE East, or CIX; the reason being is the fact that backbone routing would need to be coordinated for your network through the Routing Arbitration Database, and for the same internet addresses to be routed through providers would not necessarily be possible solution due to the way in which addressing information is 'pointed' at one provider or the other. If you'd like more intelligent elaboration, you are welcome to contact me; I work for one of the nationwide providers ,and we have tackled this problem for customers before with little success. --Alexei From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 18:42:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21835 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:42:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21818 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id SAA26856; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA19019; Thu, 4 Jan 96 18:40:42 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601050240.AA19019@tera.com> Subject: Re: linux_emu: bus error To: fqueries@parody.tecc.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:40:42 -0800 (PST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "James Raynard" at Jan 4, 96 11:25:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to James Raynard: > [[linux stuff ]] Just wondering if somebody can post a step-by-step list of things to do in order to let FBSD run Linux stuff. Playing doom is way down on my prio queue...but there may be other Linux apps. ...? gary kline > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 18:43:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21976 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21965 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA01056; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:41:48 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601050241.TAA01056@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: User names longer than 8 chars To: h.wickhorst@elmshorn.netsurf.de Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:41:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601042144.WAA01274@thor.shn.com> from "Henning Wickhorst" at Jan 4, 96 10:44:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I know there was a thread about that a few month ago, but i > did't remember any details. > But now i have a need for usernames longer than 8 chars. > > Would that be possible ? It's in the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org). Yes, it's possible, if you never expect to interoperate with any other coperating system using YP. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 18:47:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA22676 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (root@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22670 Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:47:53 -0800 (PST) From: Ruiyuan_Jiang/Advantage_KBS_at_LotusXchg@njcorp.akbs.com Received: from njcorp.akbs.com by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA12849; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:44:05 -0800 Received: from cc:Mail by njcorp.akbs.com id AA820820837; Thu, 04 Jan 96 21:46:00 EST Date: Thu, 04 Jan 96 21:46:00 EST Encoding: 42 Text Message-Id: <9600048208.AA820820837@njcorp.akbs.com> To: Michael Smith , torstenb@solar.tlk.com Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuration files needs to be changed after compiling Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for your answer. This time I did use "make install" and the software was automatically installed to /usr/local/news directory. When I tried to configure the INN News and tried to create "history*" files, I did "/usr/local/news/bin/makehistory -r -f /usr/local/news/lib/history" command and I got a message "Can't do dbzagain, No such file or directory". I tried to skip this step and directly to issue the command "inndstart" (INN News server startup command) and I think I got the same message: innd:/usr/local/news/lib/history can't dbminit ME No such file or directory I don't know this problem is caused by FreeBSD v2.1 itself or the installation steps was wrong. Does anyone know this problem? Thanks in advance. Ruiyuan Jiang System Administrator Advantage kbs rjiang@akbs.com (908) 287-2236 >> select-loop-bug.patch, the system automatically downloaded last two >> files) 3 files to compile the INN News. I checked my work directory and I >> could not find the file .install_done. I followed your suggestion and I >> deleted the work directory and its subdirectory files to do brand new >> re-compilation (in the Makefile directory, I did "make" or I need to do >> "make install"). > If it hasn't been pointed out to you, you need to do 'make install' to > have things actually installed. >> I have got several messages might be helpful (where I added the system -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 18:56:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA24179 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA24167 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA01089; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:55:05 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601050255.TAA01089@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Tar backup to another machine ? To: wjh@bhoss.ifx.net Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:55:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Bill Henderson" at Jan 4, 96 07:15:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Can someone help me with the syntax for running tar on one machine outputing > the file on the other? 1) Archive local files to a device on a remote machine: tar cvf - | rsh dd of= 2) Extract files from a device on a remote machine to the local machine: rsh dd if= | tar xvf - 3) Archive remote files to a device on a local machine: rsh tar cvf - | dd of= 4) Extract files from a local device to a remote machine: dd if= | rsh tar xvf - You may change the directory on the remote machine before the archival or extraction if you use the rich shell escape sequence for your account on the remote machine. For instance, if your shell on the remote machine is the Bourne shell (/bin/sh), you can extract the files into the /tmp directory (assuming they are relative pathed), by changing #4 above to: dd if= | rsh "( cd /tmp ; tar xvf -)" The same will work for changing the directory before archiving files from the remote machine. You would probably be better off using the "Amanda" port in "packages" if your intent is to perform remote backups. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:02:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA25040 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25015 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:02:10 -0800 (PST) From: deasey@server1.netpath.net Received: from deasey (tower.netpath.net [205.139.153.11]) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA25865; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:02:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:02:02 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Reply-To: deasey@server1.netpath.net Organization: Netpath, Inc & Stratonet, Inc. To: Frank Seltzer Subject: Re: your mail Cc: , Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu Jan 4 23:40:59 1996 Frank Seltzer wrote: >>On Thu, 4 Jan 1996 deasey@server1.netpath.net wrote: > >> I have noticed that xfmail seems to segfault about every hour and a half on sign >> al 11 >> anyone else have this problem ? >> >> Thanks >> >> --Jeff > >You are not the only one experiencing this problem. I have had this >happen to me as well, trashing all unread messages when xfmail core dumps. >It caused me to start using pine in an xterm window which works fine. > >Frank From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:05:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA25575 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25533 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:04:56 -0800 (PST) From: deasey@server1.netpath.net Received: from deasey (tower.netpath.net [205.139.153.11]) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA25924; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:04:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:04:53 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Reply-To: deasey@server1.netpath.net Organization: Netpath, Inc & Stratonet, Inc. To: Frank Seltzer Subject: Re: your mail Cc: , Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu Jan 4 23:40:59 1996 Frank Seltzer wrote: >>On Thu, 4 Jan 1996 deasey@server1.netpath.net wrote: > >> I have noticed that xfmail seems to segfault about every hour and a half on sign >> al 11 >> anyone else have this problem ? >> >> Thanks >> >> --Jeff > >You are not the only one experiencing this problem. I have had this >happen to me as well, trashing all unread messages when xfmail core dumps. >It caused me to start using pine in an xterm window which works fine. > >Frank by the way if you are reading a message and walk away for 4 hours it never crashes. only when there are no messages. I'l bet this happens when it checks with trashed mail, like it trashes mail and forgets the lock or something. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:09:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA26047 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from uahis1.uah.edu (uahis1.uah.edu [146.229.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26041 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from prsrv05.prsrv.uah.edu by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Thu, 4 Jan 96 21:09:46 CST Message-ID: <30ECB761.1543@email.uah.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 21:30:09 -0800 From: Robert Leach X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Free BSD & SCO binaries X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org//mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I notice that FreeBSD claims to be able to run SCO binaries. Does this mean I can install SCO device driver binaries as well? Also I need to run multiple netcards, since Slackware works with multiples, does BSD also. And is the configuration of them worse, or the same as Linux's. Robert rleach@ro.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:24:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA26987 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from virginia.edu (uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26976 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from archive.cs.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa19832; 4 Jan 96 22:24 EST Received: from stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (atf3r@stretch-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.14]) by archive.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA01610; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (4.1/SMI-2.0) id AA26039; Thu, 4 Jan 96 22:24:19 EST Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:24:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: JOHN Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some BASH Shell programming questions. In-Reply-To: <01HZMBAKK3428WWXUO@POMONA.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Of course, you should read the man page. O'Reilly has a pretty good book on bash as well. Here are a few examples of what you want to look for. Adrian On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > First, can I write functions within a bash shell? Right now I have a main menu Yes. e.g. function: function SayFoo { echo "Foo" return 0 } If you are doing menus, you should also consider using the 'select' command. It is designed to make menus simple to code up and maintain. > Second, is it possible to capture ^C and such so that a person can't exit out > of the menu, or if they could, that at least it would output a message telling > them how to get back to the menu? Check out the 'trap' command. You can look at /etc/rc for some examples of its use. > But the cursor is always where the '_" is here, since I use the echo command. > Is there a way to keep the cursor right after the Command >_ ? echo -n "Command >" adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| Support your local programmer, http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~atf3r/ --->>>| STOP Software Patent Abuses NOW! Member: The League for -->>| For an application and information Programming Freedom ->| see: http://www.lpf.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:31:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA27486 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27469 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA09512; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:30:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:30:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Peter Stubbs cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicating a disk In-Reply-To: <1AE4686642B@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Peter Stubbs wrote: > I'm thinking of upgrading my 2.0.5 system to 2.1, but don't want to > have it off line for very long. I have a second disk the same as the > one 2.0.5 is on, so perhaps I can just copy the whole disk to it? > > If I put the disk into the 2.0.5 system and make sure it's configured > for wd1 can I then type something like "cp /dev/rwd0 /dev/rwd1" to > duplicate the disk? dd if=/dev/rwd0c of=/dev/rwd1c Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:32:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA27657 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27645 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA09524; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:31:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:31:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Peter Stubbs cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicating a disk In-Reply-To: <1AE4686642B@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Peter Stubbs wrote: > I'm thinking of upgrading my 2.0.5 system to 2.1, but don't want to > have it off line for very long. I have a second disk the same as the > one 2.0.5 is on, so perhaps I can just copy the whole disk to it? > > If I put the disk into the 2.0.5 system and make sure it's configured > for wd1 can I then type something like "cp /dev/rwd0 /dev/rwd1" to > duplicate the disk? use a larger block size, just dd will take forever dd if=/dev/rwd0c of=/dev/rwd1c bs=100k Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:33:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA27732 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gorplex.j51.com (gorplex.j51.com [199.224.7.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27724 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from drew@localhost) by gorplex.j51.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA18298 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:33:26 -0500 From: Drew Morone Message-Id: <199601050333.WAA18298@gorplex.j51.com> Subject: rsh'ing as root To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:33:26 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I need to run rsh as root from one machine to a freebsd machine in order to copy some files. I figured that all I have to do is add the local machine to the remote fbsd machine's /root/.rhosts file and to hosts.equiv. I still get permission denied, however. It works ok as a regular user. The remote machine is running fbsd 2.1. am I missing something here?? Drew From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:42:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA28276 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA28269 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:42:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA09553; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:41:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:41:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Gary Crutcher cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: @.1 Installation on 2nd SCSI drive In-Reply-To: <199601050152.RAA25382@nightflight.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Gary Crutcher wrote: > 1. Is it possible to install v2.1 on the 2nd SCSI drive? > 2. If so, how would I go about doing this, and then make the switch over. > Each drive has a 2.1 GB capacity. WHOA! beware of installing to a 2nd drive only. in my case, the first drive got hammered. unbootable. bad news. you can't take the box down for 30 minutes?? Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 19:58:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA29182 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA29173 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA13298; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:30:32 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601050400.OAA13298@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: a couple host.conf and nameserver questions... To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:30:32 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Jan 4, 96 04:47:47 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Donald Burr stands accused of saying: > BUT (and here's the clincher), if I put: > > hosts > bind > > in /etc/host.conf... well, you'd figure that it'll check the hosts file > first, and if it can't find it, it'll check the nameserver. WRONG!! It > still insists on checking the nameserver first, then /etc/hosts. Not the > desired behavior either. Actually, it does work. What are you using to resolve names? Note that nslookup will always go for a nameserver. Check also that the host you're after is properly defined in /etc/hosts. > So what's going on here? Is this a bug in the shared libraries, or the > networking code, or whatnot? (FYI, this system usd to be a 2.0.5 box, so Your configuration. I've run against slow nameservers with a hosts-first strategy for a long time with no problems. > Now, on an aside: Is it possible for me to set up a SMALL nameserver > (named) on my machine that will somehow CACHE all recent IP->host mappings > that my box does, so taht if I've associated an IP with a host name > already, it won't have to go out on the ppp link to access the internet? Yes. Check the sample configs that come with named, the manpage and if its still not clear, get the O'Reilly DNS and Bind book. > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 20:04:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA29937 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29922 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA13337; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:35:39 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601050405.OAA13337@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Setting up NFS To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:35:39 +1030 (CST) Cc: paul@riker.comcirc.com.au, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 4, 96 09:05:12 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White stands accused of saying: > > On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Paul Sondhu wrote: > > > I am trying to set up NFS between two FreeBSD machines and am having a > > few problems. > [...] > > NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registerd > > You need to grab the pcnfs port and make that. OS/2 complains the same > way when I try to nfs mount one of my fbsd partitions. Bollocks; it means that the portmapper on the server has refused to talk to you. It can occur for a number of reasons; you'll get it if your mount is denied (your problem above), or if there isn't a mound daemon running on the server. > Doug White | University of Oregon -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 20:08:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA00280 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00233 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA13325; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:34:11 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601050404.OAA13325@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: NON Adaptec PCI SCSI ?? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:34:11 +1030 (CST) Cc: shovey@buffnet.net, fqueries@parody.tecc.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 4, 96 08:54:36 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Doug White stands accused of saying: > I am looking for the SYM8150SP, which is the Fast SCSI with onboard > BIOS. The SYM8100ASP is for you with Asus boards with support already > onboard. Those of us with SDMS bios machines would prefer to buy something cheaper. Just of curiosity, have you actually checked to see whether you have the SDMS BIOS code in your system? > Doug White | University of Oregon -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 20:10:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA00508 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pent.vnet.net (pent.vnet.net [166.82.194.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00467 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.vnet.net (localhost.vnet.net [127.0.0.1]) by pent.vnet.net (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00471 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:09:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199601050409.XAA00471@pent.vnet.net> X-Authentication-Warning: pent.vnet.net: Host localhost.vnet.net [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with manpages Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 23:09:14 -0500 From: Adam William Hawks Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am running -current and needed to rewrite my boot code sector. The only mmethod I know right now is using the install disk. So I did a install mounting my old partitions and used a non-existant device to retrieve the dist. so it would not clobber my current files. all went well I thought. now when I try to get to a manpage it say man: unable to find the file /etc/manpath.config which is there and the same as always. The funny thing is that xman works. If I type manpath it gives me my manpath. Does anyone know what the problem is? Adam W. Hawks awhawks@uncc.edu root@pent.vnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 20:17:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA00939 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00933 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA13348; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:37:01 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601050407.OAA13348@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: NON Adaptec PCI SCSI ?? To: shovey@buffnet.net (steve hovey) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:37:01 +1030 (CST) Cc: fqueries@parody.tecc.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "steve hovey" at Jan 4, 96 07:44:33 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk steve hovey stands accused of saying: > > NCR 53C810 based, 53C82x based > > The problem with the latter is that Ive yet to be able to discover what > chip set any controller is based on... I was hoping for brand name make > and models of NCR based controllers. Oh well ASUS SC200. > Stephen Hovey shovey@buffnet.net -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 20:19:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA01039 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01034 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05303; Thu, 4 Jan 96 22:19:44 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA29478; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:19:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:19:43 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601050419.AA29478@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: wjh@bhoss.ifx.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Bill Henderson on Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:15:50 -0500) Subject: Re: Tar backup to another machine ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Henderson writes: Bill> Can someone help me with the syntax for running tar on one Bill> machine outputing the file on the other? Bill> two machines from home:/ to bhoss:/usr/back.tar home% tar cvf - / | rsh bhoss 'cat > /usr/back.tar' -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Instead of having 'answers' on a math test, they should just call them 'impressions' and it you got a different 'impression' so what, can't we all be brothers? -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 20:25:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA01505 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from user2.mnsinc.com (user2.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01500 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from satori (wgerrard.mnsinc.com [206.55.44.51]) by user2.mnsinc.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA25044 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:25:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:25:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199601050425.XAA25044@user2.mnsinc.com> X-Sender: wgerrard@mnsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: "w. a. gerrard" Subject: ver. 2.0.5 install Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Getting nowhere trying to install version 2.0.5 off the Walnut Creek CD. The machine is a Pentium-133, 32-meg, Adaptec AHA-2940 v.1.21. I'm currently running WinNT Workstation 3.51 with no apparent problems. Two problems appear during an install attempt: 1. If I launch "install.bat" (located on the CD) in an NT DOS box, it immediately dies with a "not enough memory" message. 2. Trying to run the install from a floppy after copying the boot image using the CD's "makeflp.bat", the machine reboots over and over without displaying a "boot:" prompt. The reboot happens just after the Adaptec displays its "bios successfully loaded" message. Any advice is more than welcome. Thanks. wgerrard@mnsinc.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 21:00:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA04649 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA03986 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA13473; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:26:51 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601050456.PAA13473@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Free BSD & SCO binaries To: leachr@email.uah.edu (Robert Leach) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:26:50 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <30ECB761.1543@email.uah.edu> from "Robert Leach" at Jan 4, 96 09:30:09 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Robert Leach stands accused of saying: > > I notice that FreeBSD claims to be able to run SCO binaries. It does too 8) > Does this mean I can install SCO device driver binaries as well? No; device drivers are not iBCS2 binaries, they're kernel object files. > Also I need to run multiple netcards, since Slackware works with > multiples, does BSD also. And is the configuration of them worse, > or the same as Linux's. BSD has supported multiple network interfaces for, oh at a guess maybe the last fifteen or twenty years. I have no idea what you mean by 'configuration' of them, you'll need to be more specific about what gets your goat there. > Robert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 21:05:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA05231 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA05213 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id AAA19675; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id AAA10889; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:04:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:04:20 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: Robert Leach cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free BSD & SCO binaries In-Reply-To: <30ECB761.1543@email.uah.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Robert Leach wrote: > I notice that FreeBSD claims to be able to run SCO binaries. > > Does this mean I can install SCO device driver binaries as well? > Also I need to run multiple netcards, since Slackware works with > multiples, does BSD also. And is the configuration of them worse, > or the same as Linux's. I can't tell what the last two questions are, but you can't run SCO device drivers, sorry. > > Robert > rleach@ro.com > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 22:30:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA10815 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from becker2.u.washington.edu (spaz@becker2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10809 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by becker2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.12/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32335; Thu, 4 Jan 96 22:30:08 -0800 X-Sender: spaz@becker2.u.washington.edu Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:30:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Utz To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: crt0.o format not recognized? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello; The current snapshots of octave ( a pd matlab clone ) require gcc-2.7x and libg++2.7.1 to compile. We only have gcc-2.6.x on FreeBSD-2.05 and 2.1. Thus i need to get gcc-2.7.2 and libg++2.7.1 running on my 2.05 box so i can continue to test octave snaps. gcc 2.7.2 was not a problem :-). libg++2.7.1 is :-(. It needs a new version of gas ( our's does not support the ".weak" context ). I 've got that handled now. :-) What has left me stumped is the error message mentioned in the subject line. Can anybody think of a reason why gcc-2.7.2 ( or more likely, ld ) chokes on the stock crt0.o? The error message is : "/usr/local/lib/crt0.o:improper format or file not recognized" where /usr/local/lib/crt0.o is a link to /usr/lib/crt0.o any guesses? tnks! ******************************************************************************* John Utz spaz@u.washington.edu idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 22:42:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA11259 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11254 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA29064; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:42:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:42:50 -0500 (EST) From: Geoffrey Deasey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mountd messages after a cdrom install Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I get a message starting network deamons tickadj ntpdate portmap mountdJan 5 01:35:14 dakota mountd[80] Can't open /var/db/mountdtab Is this why I cannot re-mount the cdrom in /stand/sysinstall I seem to have forgotten the kernel source and need to re-compile to get the soundblaster stuff ------------------------------------------------------------------ FreeBSD / Linux | Netpath, Inc & Stratonet, Inc. | ------------------+ 2466 Corporation Parkway | Opinions are mine | Burlington, NC 27215 910-226-0425 | not theirs +----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 22:44:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA11380 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (root@hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11362 Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA13698; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:43:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:43:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: two isp's, one net In-Reply-To: <199601041830.SAA05731@albion.loach.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov wrote: > I am not believing this can be accomplished without peering with providers > at Network Access Points like MAE East, or CIX; the reason being is the > fact that backbone routing would need to be coordinated for your network > through the Routing Arbitration Database, and for the same internet addresses > to be routed through providers would not necessarily be possible solution due > to the way in which addressing information is 'pointed' at one provider or the > other. If you'd like more intelligent elaboration, you are welcome to contact > me; I work for one of the nationwide providers ,and we have tackled this > problem for customers before with little success. > Wait...I thought this was just a matter of getting assigned an AS #, and making use of BGP routing (or OSPF, which I believe is the newer of the two). Using something like Gated on the "gateway" box, routing through either or both providers should be (I know... the books always make it sound *sooo* easy) trivial... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 22:59:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA12199 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:59:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA12193 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA05658; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:02:38 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601050702.XAA05658@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: spell(1) replacement? To: nate@rocky.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:02:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: pst@Shockwave.COM, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601042139.OAA02141@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Jan 4, 96 02:39:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Have we never done a spell(1) replacement for FreeBSD!? > > I just tried to run spell to no avail. > > ispell is a spell super-set. I think you can run it in 'spell' > compatability mode. 'ispell' is a very nice package, though somewhat of > a pig. I thought so too. However, haven't figured it out. I'm trying to get it running under pine which expects spell -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 23:05:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA12545 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12540 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA06798; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:03:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601050703.XAA06798@precipice.shockwave.com> To: Brian Litzinger cc: nate@rocky.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spell(1) replacement? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jan 1996 23:02:38 PST." <199601050702.XAA05658@MediaCity.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 23:03:58 -0800 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk You might try: #!/bin/sh # bloated spell(1) replacement ispell -l | sort | uniq From: Brian Litzinger Subject: Re: spell(1) replacement? > > > > Have we never done a spell(1) replacement for FreeBSD!? > > I just tried to run spell to no avail. > > ispell is a spell super-set. I think you can run it in 'spell' > compatability mode. 'ispell' is a very nice package, though somewhat of > a pig. I thought so too. However, haven't figured it out. I'm trying to get it running under pine which expects spell -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeB >>SD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 23:09:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA12791 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12785 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA05741; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:08:28 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601050708.XAA05741@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: sorting by character position To: fqueries@parody.tecc.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:08:28 -0800 (PST) Cc: brian@MediaCity.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "James Raynard" at Jan 4, 96 11:21:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Brian Litzinger wrote: > > All I want to do is > > > > sort -n -d -k 14,29 sorted > > > > where -k 14,29 is supposed to mean that sort is supposed to consider > > the data in columns 14 - 29 of each line as the key to sort by. > > > > However, from my reading of the sort man page, it doesn't seem to > > have this functionality. However, I remember I used to be able > > to do this in my SYSV days. > > It seems to be there in 2.1.0R:- > > -k POS1[,POS2] > An alternate syntax for specifying sorting keys. > The fields and character positions are numbered > starting with 1. > James Unfortunately, further down in the man page is a definition for POS which makes great sense, but I am unable to devine how to get a purely character position oriented specification out of it. I tried several test files and just couldn't quite get what I wanted which was: forbar flem ickto $1234588 gort sneakers flem ^^^^^^^^^^^ and I'd liked to sort on the columns indicated. Except from man sort: A position has the form f.c, where f is the number of the field to use and c is the number of the first character from the beginning of the field (for +pos) or from the end of the previous field (for -pos). The .c part of a posi- tion may be omitted in which case it is taken to be the first character in the field. If the -b option has been given, the .c part of a field specification is counted from the first nonblank character of the field (for +pos) or from the first nonblank character following the previ- ous field (for -pos). A +pos or -pos argument may also have any of the option letters Mbdfinr appended to it, in which case the global ordering options are not used for that particular field. The -b option may be independently attached to either or both of the +pos and -pos parts of a field specification, and if it is inherited from the global options it will be attached to both. If a -n or -M option is used, thus implying a -b option, the -b option is taken to apply to both the +pos and the -pos parts of a key specification. Keys may span multiple fields. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 00:12:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA17896 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc.jyu.fi (root@cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA17884 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.39]) by cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA13807; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:12:17 +0200 (EET) X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:12:23 +0300 To: Steve Passe , Branson Matheson From: kallio@cc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: Netboot / Dosboot Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 16:40 4.1.96, Steve Passe wrote: >Hi, > >> branson@freefall.freebsd.org > file netboot.com >> netboot.com: PDP-11 executable not stripped > >you want to run: nb8390.com > >also, it won't work as is with a NE2000 board, write me for details if that >applies. I am using Netboot. It works nice but if you want swap on local disk and local temp the configuration is a little complicated. There is also dosboot. I did try it, but I do not understand how it should be used. It could not find root device. There was some instruction to define kernel root or something lkike that what does that mean? Could it be possible to have root fs in DOS or same root in NFS as netboot-users have? Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 00:19:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA18075 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA18070 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZMQV11RM88WWZ0Z@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Jan 1996 00:19:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 00:19:41 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Will it be inappropriate for this group if I To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZMQV11VEA8WWZ0Z@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk post a short (2pages or so) bash shell script for review by anyone who feels like it? I'm setting up a menuing system for some users, and I am vvery, very new to programming and even newer to FreeBSD.. The reason why I want to post it here, is not for programming tips (plenty of those will be obvious I am sure) but for any advice on possible security problems I might create. If this is a problem, just say so. I realize people have to download these articles over a telephone line, 2 or 3 pages shouldnt be long, but hey, I'm a newbie and trying to tread lightly! :) Thanks John From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 01:14:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA21270 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21260 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA05662; Fri, 5 Jan 96 01:14:14 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601050914.AA05662@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: handbook To: ptroot@uswest.com Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:14:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601041953.AA01318@kermit.acs.uswest.com> from "ptroot@uswest.com" at Jan 4, 96 01:53:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm trying to get the handbook printed out. When I run it > through latex, I get a couple of errors (with a ?) prompt. And when I > view the dvi file (or converted ps file) the table of contents is > blank and any references to other sections is just ??. The handbook's LaTeX generated source is written for LaTeX 2e. LaTeX 2e is the newer version that brings together many patches and enhancements for LaTeX. However, many, many shops installed LaTeX years ago and haven't upgraded it. (since it can be such a bear to get a new version up and running who can blame them?) So, yes, often you will have trouble processing the LaTeX output. I am also assuming you are either taking the SGML source and running it sgmlfmt to generate the LaTeX files (and have /usr/share/sgml/FreeBSD/lib/linuxdoc.sty installed). Or, you are taking the LaTeX source from ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/docs > Am I doing anything wrong, or is it just that the handbook > is incomplete? Neither, see above. > I'm doing it on my Sparc at work, running Solaris 2.5. No, I'm > not convinced that latex is correctly installed on the Sparc. Is it > worth my while to pkg_add tex on my FreeBSD machine to create the doc? YES, either that or get the PostScript file from someone. (Gee, wouldn't it be nice (how many times have I said this to the Docs people?) if the PostScript version of the handbook were also at ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/docs ?) -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 01:18:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA21797 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21774 Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA10098; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 04:19:12 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601050919.EAA10098@hda.com> Subject: Re: [Q] bus architecture books To: jmb@FreeBSD.org (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 04:19:12 -0500 (EST) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 4, 96 07:48:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > annabooks puts out some as well, that one is at work, not here, sorry. "ISA & ESA Theory and Operation" By Edward Solari. Annabooks, ISBN 0-929392-15-9 -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 01:26:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA22542 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA22537 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA06619; Fri, 5 Jan 96 01:26:04 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601050926.AA06619@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: X and xterm questions To: snorthcutt@1stresource.com (Scott Northcutt) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:26:02 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601042013.PAA07032@nameserver.1stresource.com> from "Scott Northcutt" at Jan 4, 96 01:57:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 1) I recently ftp'd the xv-3.10a .tgz file, decompressed it, and type make. > it cruised along fine for a while and then died while trying to find > /X11/Xlib.h and a few other similar header-type files. My question is, how > do I acquire those needed files? My /usr/X11R6 directory has bin, man, lib, > and include directories in it. Am I missing a source directory or something? Sounds like you are trying to compile XV straight from the box. Will not work. You want to start with the FreeBSD XV portball. With FreeBSD CDROM installed (see handbook section 2.3.1): mkdir /usr/ports /usr/X11R6/bin/lndir /ports /usr/ports cp xv-3.10a.tar.gz /usr/ports/diskfile cd /usr/ports/graphics/xv make install (note that the source for the dependant libraries (jpeg and tiff) are on the cdrom already) Without FreeBSD CDROM: mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles mkdir /usr/ports/graphics ftp the portballs for xv, tiff, jpeg from ftp.freebsd.org and untar them in /usr/ports/graphics. Read the Makefile's for each of these to see where to aquire the original source. Put the original source to xv,tiff,jpeg in /usr/ports/distfiles. cd /usr/ports/graphics/xv make install I installed XV last week using this procedure with NO problems what so ever. Works great. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 01:40:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA23735 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:40:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA23692 Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id KAA20982 ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:40:19 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id KAA13273 ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:40:18 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id KAA20841; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:37:28 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199601050937.KAA20841@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: Configuration files needs to be changed after compiling To: Ruiyuan_Jiang/Advantage_KBS_at_LotusXchg@njcorp.akbs.com Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:37:28 +0100 (MET) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, torstenb@solar.tlk.com, ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9600048208.AA820820837@njcorp.akbs.com> from "Ruiyuan_Jiang/Advantage_KBS_at_LotusXchg@njcorp.akbs.com" at Jan 4, 96 09:46:00 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1503 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Ruiyuan_Jiang/Advantage_KBS_at_LotusXchg@njcorp.akbs.com said: > software was automatically installed to /usr/local/news directory. When I > tried to configure the INN News and tried to create "history*" files, I > did "/usr/local/news/bin/makehistory -r -f /usr/local/news/lib/history" > command and I got a message "Can't do dbzagain, No such file or > directory". I tried to skip this step and directly to issue the command > "inndstart" (INN News server startup command) and I think I got the same > message: > > innd:/usr/local/news/lib/history can't dbminit ME No such file or > directory cd /usr/local/news/lib mv history.n history mv history.n.pag history.pag mv history.n.dir history.dir This step is not made at this time, when you do a makehistory like that. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #12: Sun Dec 31 16:05:48 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 02:28:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA27701 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 02:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from othello.dataware.de (othello.dataware.de [194.77.19.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27692 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 02:28:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jason@localhost) by othello.dataware.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA04259 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:21:45 +0100 From: Jason Diesel Message-Id: <199601051021.LAA04259@othello.dataware.de> Subject: PPP Server ??? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:21:44 +1538425 (MET) Generate-Delivery-Report: Yes X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello Questions I run a small internet site, with 6 machines running FreeBSD 2.0.5, and a leased line to my internet provider, etc. I have a modem connected to my main server, so that my companies, sales-guys, can dial into us and get onto the internet when they are visiting customers and so on. This modem, is really causing trouble, which maybe you can help and shed some light on for me. Firsty, what I have done so far: I have an mgetty running on the modem, meaning that you can dial in perfectly from the outside, you login with a name, and the telnet session works perfectly. But I need the modem to run PPP (or SLIP, but I chose PPP as it is newer and ...)So I created a special user, that has a logon script to run ppp like this: /usr/sbin/ppp -direct Once the user has logged on, packet mode is enabled, so you then fire up netscape or something like that. But it cannot find any names on the internet. Here is a brief listing on how my setup is: Nameserver: othello.dataware.de - 194.77.19.26 PPP user: dw-slip.dataware.de - 194.77.19.28 I have compiled the tunnel device into my kernel, and my /etc/sysconfig files like this: ifconfig_tun0="inet 194.77.19.28 194.77.19.26 netmask 255.255.255.248" Once connected, I perform a: netstat -ain: ============= Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 02.60.8c.a7.72.e8 90168 142 74086 0 642 ed0 1500 194.77.19.2 194.77.19.26 90168 142 74086 0 642 lp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 2415 0 2415 0 0 lo0 16384 127 127.0.0.1 2415 0 2415 0 0 sl0* 552 0 0 0 0 0 tun0 1500 8621 0 6959 0 0 tun0 1500 194.77.19 194.77.19.26 8621 0 6959 0 0 Then a netstat -nr: =================== Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 194.77.19.25 UGSc 5 107 ed0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 51 lo0 194.77.19.24 link#1 UC 0 0 194.77.19.25 2:60:8c:a1:d8:d7 UHLW 7 41168 ed0 267 194.77.19.26 2:60:8c:a7:72:e8 UHLW 1 2364 lo0 194.77.19.27 8:0:20:74:48:70 UHLW 1 158 ed0 958 194.77.19.28 194.77.19.26 UH 1 117 tun0 224 link#1 UCS 0 0 But something is not right, the routing seems wrong as there is no true link between systems. Now the question is, what should the routing be and how should it be done? #/etc/ppp/options crtscts # Hardware flow control netmask 255.255.255.248 # netmask ( not required ) 194.77.19.26:194.77.19.28 # ip's of local and remote hosts # local ip must be different from one # you assigned to the ethernet ( or other ) # interface on your machine. # remote IP is ip address that will be # assigned to the remote machine domain dw-slip.dataware.de # your domain passive # wait for LCP cuaa1 # modem line And: #/etc/ppp/ppp.linkup 194.77.19.28: add 194.77.19.26 255.255.255.0 HISADDR # iij-demand: delete ALL add 0 0 HISADDR ====== So what else can I do to get the system running? I have looked around the internet, and not found too much documentation on PPP server stuff. My internet provider, as well as others I think, are all using netblazers, so this is not applicable. Do you have any ideas that could help, it would be very much appreciated JAson ================================================================== Jason Diesel ------------ [jdiesel@dataware.com] Dataware Technologies GmbH [jason@dataware.de] BarthStr. 24 http://www.dataware.de 80339 Munich Germany http://www.dataware.de/~jason Tel:+49-89-540-924-72 Fax:+49-89-540-924-10 ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 02:48:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA28584 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 02:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from buarchive.bu.ac.th (BUARCHIVE.BU.AC.TH [202.44.254.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28572 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 02:48:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fbsd@localhost) by buarchive.bu.ac.th (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA02895; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:46:57 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:46:57 +0700 (ICT) From: FreeBSD mailing list To: Fabian Schonholz cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring FreeX86 In-Reply-To: <30EC138B.5AAC@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This is config file for ATI WinTurbo board,you can run in SVGA mode only. Charoenchai Kiranantawat Bangkok University Bangkok, Thailand. # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: LeftAlt Meta RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" Device "/dev/ttyd0" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice Emulate3Buttons # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "SONY" VendorName "SONY" ModelName "15sf" # Bandwidth is in MHz unless units are specified # Bandwidth 25.2 # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-70 # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # Mode "1024x768i" # DotClock 45 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" # EndMode # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically # used. # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 # 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 # Low-res Doublescan modes # If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed' # resolution like 320x400. # 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 602 312 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present # Standard VGA Device: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection # Sample Device for accelerated server: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" Identifier "ATI" VendorName "ATI" BoardName "WIN" #VideoRam 2048 Clocks 50.35 56.64 63.00 72.00 40.00 44.90 49.50 50.00 Clocks 0.00 110.00 126.00 135.00 0.00 80.00 75.00 65.00 Clocks 25.18 28.32 31.50 36.00 20.00 22.45 24.75 25.00 Clocks 0.00 55.00 63.00 67.50 0.00 40.00 37.50 32.50 EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "Generic VGA" Device "ATI" Monitor "SONY" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-color VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "SONY" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "SONY" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "ATI" Monitor "SONY" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Fabian Schonholz wrote: > Hi. I purchased and installed FreeBSD 2.1, however, I am having some > problems configuring X11R6. > > I have a monitor thta runs at 100MHz, with 30-64 KHz hsync and > 50-100KHz vsync. My video card is a ATI WinTurbo with the Mach-64 > chipset. > > I would appreciate some help. Thank you > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 03:10:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA29574 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from buarchive.bu.ac.th (BUARCHIVE.BU.AC.TH [202.44.254.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29563 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fbsd@localhost) by buarchive.bu.ac.th (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA02915; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:09:41 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:09:41 +0700 (ICT) From: FreeBSD mailing list To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a couple host.conf and nameserver questions... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > I run FreeBSD 2.1-release on my 486/66, which is connected to the rest of > the world via a 28.8 PPP connection. Naturally, this ain't no 56k line, > and so things tend to bog down sometimes, especially when I'm FTP'ing in > another session or something. This especially hurts stuff like > IP->hostname resolution, e.g. when using the "netstat" command or > similar. So I decided to try something: I figured, as an experiment, to > put the IP addresses and hostnames of some commonly-used hosts > (ftp.cdrom.com, ftp.freebsd.org, all the various netcom servers, etc.) > into /etc/hosts. Because I remember vaguely that there is a way to tell > UNIX to search /etc/hosts BEFORE going out on the net and consulting a > nameserver. > > Back in my heydey of Ultrix, I remember there was a file called > something like /etc/svc.conf where I could say something like "hosts = > hosts, bind", which basically meant that the system would look in > /etc/hosts to resolve IP addresses to names, before checking the > nameserver. (Please excuse any mistakes, it's been a long time, and one > I'd rather forget...) > > More recently, when running LInux, I could use the /etc/host.conf and put > "order = hosts, bind" in it to do the same thing. > > But apparently, FreeBSD doesn't work that way. > > If I just put "hosts" alone in /etc/host.conf, then it works fine. But > if I try accessing a host that's not in /etc/hosts, it craps out wiht an > error. OK, this makes sense. But it isn't quite the desired behaviour. > > If I put: > > bind > hosts > > in it, then it checks the nameserver first, and if the nameserver doesn't > know about it, THEN it looks in /etc/hosts. This works too -- the > nameserver knows about Internet hosts I'm contacting, but DOESN'T know > about hosts on my local ("fake") ethernet. But /etc/hosts knows about > these, so everything is still cool. > > BUT (and here's the clincher), if I put: > > hosts > bind > > in /etc/host.conf... well, you'd figure that it'll check the hosts file > first, and if it can't find it, it'll check the nameserver. WRONG!! It > still insists on checking the nameserver first, then /etc/hosts. Not the > desired behavior either. > > So what's going on here? Is this a bug in the shared libraries, or the > networking code, or whatnot? (FYI, this system usd to be a 2.0.5 box, so > MAYBE some old 2.0.5 stuff is still hanging around... if this behavior > is fixed in 2.1, then that it might be the time to throw caution to the > wind and go ahead and do a full re-install) It cannot find name server for you,this is example /etc/resolv.conf file, please modify it. ; ; resolv.conf file for server lily ; domain bu.ac.th nameserver 202.44.254.21 # lily.bu.ac.th nameserver 202.44.254.22 # iris.bu.ac.th nameserver 192.150.251.21 # morakot.nectec.or.th nameserver 137.39.1.3 # ns.uunet.net > > Now, on an aside: Is it possible for me to set up a SMALL nameserver > (named) on my machine that will somehow CACHE all recent IP->host mappings > that my box does, so taht if I've associated an IP with a host name > already, it won't have to go out on the ppp link to access the internet? > yes,you can. Charoenchai Kiranantawat Bangkok University Bangkok,Thailand. > enquiring minds want to know... > > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 03:26:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA00679 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00674 Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:26:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.12/1.63) id MAA14907; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:22:34 +0100 X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nietzsche.bowtie.nl (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA05331; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:16:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199601051116.MAA05331@nietzsche.bowtie.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: "Maksim Stolyarov" cc: doc@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LinuxEmu Doc / Together? In-reply-to: mns's message of Fri, 05 Jan 1996 00:00:37 +0300. Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 12:16:13 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk You don't mention that it only works with ZMAGIC libs, which seem to be hard to find. Marc. ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 03:35:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA01353 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper119235.iafrica.com [196.7.119.235]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA01346 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00709; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:33:10 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601051133.NAA00709@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: sorting by character position To: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:33:08 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601050708.XAA05741@MediaCity.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at Jan 4, 96 11:08:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Brian Litzinger wrote on 4 Jan 1996: > > > > > All I want to do is > > > > > > sort -n -d -k 14,29 sorted > > > > > > where -k 14,29 is supposed to mean that sort is supposed to consider > > > the data in columns 14 - 29 of each line as the key to sort by. > > I tried several test files and just couldn't quite get what I wanted > which was: > > forbar flem ickto $1234588 gort sneakers flem > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > and I'd liked to sort on the columns indicated. Unless I've misunderstood, something like this is probably what you want: [unsorted file] fifte 1111 fourt 1110 thirt 1101 twelv 1100 eleve 1011 ten 1010 nine 1001 eight 1000 seven 111 six 110 five 101 four 100 three 11 two 10 one 1 zero 0 sort -t: +0.6 -0.9 test one 1 zero 0 three 11 two 10 five 101 four 100 seven 111 six 110 eight 1000 nine 1001 eleve 1011 ten 1010 thirt 1101 twelv 1100 fifte 1111 fourt 1110 ^^^ sorted on 6..8 -- Robert Nordier rnordier@iafrica.com E.A.C. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 03:47:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA01732 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.bitmailer.com (root@ns.bitmailer.com [194.179.94.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA01727 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:47:16 -0800 (PST) From: moreto@bitmailer.net Received: from bilbo.bitmailer.com by ns.bitmailer.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #110) id m0tYAbt-000bs0C; Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:47 MET Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:47 MET X-Sender: moreto@mailhost.bitmailer.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: general questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBSD - Sorry to be so vague in the subject. Where can I get the User's Supplementary Documentation as detailed on the inside back cover of the O'Reilly manuals? I'm trying to run MH and I seem to be missing a bit of information. Thanks for any help; Garey Mills From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 05:01:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA04742 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 05:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04737 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 05:01:51 -0800 (PST) From: ptroot@uswest.com Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03943; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 06:01:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id GAA24663; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 06:09:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19598; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 07:01:33 -0600 Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA01568; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 07:01:33 -0600 Message-Id: <9601051301.AA01568@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: spell(1) replacement? To: pst@shockwave.com (Paul Traina) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 07:01:32 -0600 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601042034.MAA03363@precipice.shockwave.com> from "Paul Traina" at Jan 4, 96 12:34:24 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Paul Traina said: > > Have we never done a spell(1) replacement for FreeBSD!? > I just tried to run spell to no avail. > > Sigh. Ispell is in ports. Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com "if you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes" -- edmund wilson From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 05:58:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA05925 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 05:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from walrus.megabaud.fi (walrus.megabaud.fi [192.89.182.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA05920 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 05:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from walrus.megabaud.fi (slirp@walrus.megabaud.fi [192.89.182.1]) by walrus.megabaud.fi (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA11228 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:57:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199601051357.PAA11228@walrus.megabaud.fi> X-Sender: ghard@walrus.megabaud.fi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 15:54:51 +0200 To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: ghard@walrus.megabaud.fi (Yrjänä Rankka) Subject: PCI card and a Compaq blues Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In some previous messages in freebsd-questions I've gathered, that there seems to be some general problems involving Compaq PCs equipped with PCI HW. I recently had the kind of problems someone had with an Adaptec SCSI, but mine's was a NCR-based card. Depending of the version of Diagnostics/SETUP used the computer either recognised the card or not, and I wasn't able to define an IRQ for it. In my case the probes identified the card properly, but couldn't allocate an IRQ (Irq 255 Invalid). I could get as far as getting the xserver's login screen, but then the machine would hang up with a continuous beep from the speakers. My version of FreeBSD is 2.0.5-R from CDROM and I'm having no difficulties running it on a fresh-from-the-box Presario CDS 772 with the IDE disk and the IDE CDROM-hack I glued on works nicely too. So I trashed the NCR board and ordered an Adaptec PCI card instead and now I'm wondering whether this will work or not... If someone has a working system with this hardware, please enlighten me. It would be nice to have a bit more complete reference on hardware people are using to run FreeBSD. If someone's working no such a list, here's mine: Compaq CDS 772 (P5 75MHz 256k cache, 8 MB RAM, 540MB HD, Embedded IDE&SVGA with Cirrus chipset,4xCDROM) "Got depressed, wrote a note, used a gun, Cobain..." (sung to the tune of 'Cocaine' by J.J.Cale) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 06:30:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA07996 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 06:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA07991 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 06:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA02384; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 06:29:52 -0800 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199601051429.GAA02384@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: Re: X and xterm questions To: snorthcutt@1stresource.com (Scott Northcutt) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 06:29:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601042013.PAA07032@nameserver.1stresource.com> from "Scott Northcutt" at Jan 4, 96 01:57:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > This is perhaps the wrong forum for these queries, but, if nothing else, > it'll be a good jumping off point. Here goes... > 1) I recently ftp'd the xv-3.10a .tgz file, decompressed it, and type make. > it cruised along fine for a while and then died while trying to find > /X11/Xlib.h and a few other similar header-type files. My question is, how > do I acquire those needed files? My /usr/X11R6 directory has bin, man, lib, > and include directories in it. Am I missing a source directory or something? Try doing this... ln -s X11R6 /usr/X11 -Archie _______________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@tribe.com * Tribe Computer Works http://www.tribe.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 06:50:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA09013 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 06:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwgsc.gc.ca (ns.tpsgc.gc.ca [192.197.74.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA09005 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 06:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by gorgon.pwgsc.gc.ca id <29710>; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:51:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:49:17 -0500 From: "J.S.T." Organization: Frontier Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4a (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4BSD"Lite" and 4.4BSD differences X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org//mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <96Jan5.095115est.29710@gorgon.pwgsc.gc.ca> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't seem to find this in any of the FAQs. What is the difference code/functionality/tools between 4.4BSD and the 4.4BSD"Lite" version as used by freeBSD ( for e.g. ) ? ThankYou J. S. Tomei ab013@freenet.carleton.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 07:27:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA11123 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 07:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA11115 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 07:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA25373 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:29:31 -0500 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199601051529.KAA25373@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: Netboot (fwd) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:29:30 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > branson@freefall.freebsd.org > file netboot.com > > netboot.com: PDP-11 executable not stripped > > you want to run: nb8390.com This was the problem.. Thanks for all the help with that particular problem... now on to the next one ;-) I have a 486/66 with a 3com card installed. There was a problem with the shared memory being disabled. The dos software that is being used needs it turned off.. and FreeBSD wants it on.. this is a problem that i have not figured out how to route around. Meanwhile I have been sucessful in getting the machines to boot correctly and come right up. but the 8meg machines crash right as xdm starts :-(. I have plenty of swap but it seems to have a problem right when you fill the memory up. Swapinfo on the machine shows that it has plenty of room available. Any ideas? Somthing else that I am going to be working on is creating an Xkernel style configuration for Low memory machines. If anyone else is interested in this let me know. -branson PS> I am back ;-) -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | work: e.b.matheson@larc.nasa.gov CSC SysAdmin | http://longstreet.larc.nasa.gov/~branson (w) 804-864-9700 |all other: ebm@visi.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 08:24:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA14695 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14688 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:24:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA22793; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:07:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:07:04 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Terry Lambert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LAT support In-Reply-To: <199601041727.KAA17980@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > On top of that, the DS200 is a really cheesy terminal server. Sell it > > to a VMS or Ultrix shop and go buy a multiport serial card 8) > > He didn't really give a letter after the 200. It *might* have one, > and so it *might* have modem control support. It is indeed a 200/MC, so there is modem control incorporated. And at $50, it was a lot cheaper than my Boca card..... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 08:41:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA15908 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15900 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from block.statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYFCN-000r3vC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 08:40 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by block.statsci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA18236; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:40:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199601051640.IAA18236@block.statsci.com> To: Terry Lambert cc: wjh@bhoss.ifx.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tar backup to another machine ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jan 1996 19:55:04 -0700." <199601050255.TAA01089@phaeton.artisoft.com> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 08:40:58 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > You would probably be better off using the "Amanda" port in "packages" > if your intent is to perform remote backups. That reminds me... Is it possible to use amanda to do backups without having a "work" disk? At one point, I was fiddling with using it to manage backups on my home system, but I just want it to manage the dumps. I don't need it to parallelize anything or buffer anything (nor do I have the free disk space to allow it to). Also, is it possible for amanda to put multiple days' backups on the same tape? I've got a 2.3Gb tape drive (Exabyte), but I don't have THAT much stuff to backup. Or does it really need one tape per backup run? Or am I better off just cobbling together my own scripts to automate it? Or should I RTFM better/more thoroughly? :-) thanx, Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 08:51:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA16456 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [134.24.4.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA16435 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from puffin.pelican.com by pelican.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0tYFLp-000K2nC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 08:50 WET Received: by puffin.pelican.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0tYFLo-0000SMC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 08:50 PST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 08:50 PST From: pete@puffin.pelican.com (Pete Carah) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System hangs with S3-Trio64 and networking. In-Reply-To: <199601040354.OAA09930@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article <199601040354.OAA09930@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> msmith writes: >Sergey S. Kosyakov stands accused of saying: >> I have Pentium-120 with 32 MB RAM and Diamond Stealth-64 2 MB DRAM (S3-Trio64) >> PCI card. When I start ping from xterm %25 or more pings loss. When I start >> some network applications under X (like ftp or netscape) system hangs. >> I tried "de" (Digital 21041 PCI Ethernet card) and "ed" (SMC8216) - the >> situation is the same. >> Can somebody help me to fix this problem ? >Had any progress here yet? I'm sure you have a hardware problem; you should >try resetting your BIOS configurations back to their default values. >Also check your ethernet cable. Well, I've now seen this on two systems; one a P100/ASUS P55TP4XE with PB cache and either a Diamond Stealth PCI 64 (the Dram version), or a ISA Fahrenheit 1280+. Originally I suspected the PB cache and have bought 256k of static (but not gotten around to testing it yet). The hang happens on either card in the same circumstances so the mmap of the PCI card probably isn't an issue. The other is a 486 VLB using a VLB Fahrenheit card. The P100 reliably locks up totally (red-button time) after one or two pixmap loads (I think; whatever X mode xli uses). Netscape usually displays pictures very slowly and often gets further, but usually will lock the system too. I can run line-draw stuff (e.g. ico) all day without hangs. The 486 belongs to a friend and has locked up twice, both during X operations of some kind. I haven't gotten a good handle on the exact circumstances of his lockup. Mine often puts random garbage on the screen during the hang process, at least on the PCI card, so it appears to be spraying memory somehow. Both of these two run XF86 3.1.2 ftp'd from cdrom.com under the 2.1.0-RELEASE directory. I've not seen this at home on a 486 running -stable and X 3.1.1 so there may be something amiss in the 3.1.2 driver; was it maybe compiled with -O2 and not the strength-reduce defeat? One other possibly significant difference, though, is that my home system has 32mb ram (but runs innd) and the other two have only 16mb so may be swapping some. In the past I've never had the disk space to recompile the server but I have it now so may try various options there... -- Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 09:12:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA17537 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17458 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA03896; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:11:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:11:55 -0500 (EST) From: Geoffrey Deasey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: post install kernel source Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How may I install the kernel source tree without re-installing from the cdrom I don't see how to do this, I have looked through the FAQ but I still don't see how to do this. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 09:40:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19067 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from intele.net (quervo.intele.net [204.118.149.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19033 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (wes@localhost) by intele.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA05159 for questions@freefall.freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:55:53 -0700 From: Barnacle Wes Message-Id: <199601051755.KAA05159@intele.net> Subject: Re: questions-digest V1 #378 To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:55:53 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <199601050500.VAA04658@freefall.freebsd.org> from "owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org" at Jan 4, 96 09:00:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler asked: % how do i set up a the routers and routes so that i can have two internet % connections supporting a single organization. when one isp fails (far % too often these days what with mci and alternet and sprint and.....) i want % the other line to carry all the traffic. our service is a full T-1 on % one line and metered T-1 on the other, therefore traffic load balancing % is NOT desireable. [...] Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov answered, in part: > I am not believing this can be accomplished without peering with providers > at Network Access Points like MAE East, or CIX; [...] I believe you might be able to solve this problem at your local network if you use ONE ROUTER for both interfaces. If the router supports a 'fail-over' route, you might be able to get it to select the second ISP as long as the first one is not responding. This might be an opportunity for some innovative coding in FreeBSD also; write a daemon process that can monitor two external connections and provide the same facility by diddling with the default route. It should be pretty simple to accomplish; the implementation is left as an exercise for the reader. (I love saying that! ;^) -- Wes Peters | Yes I am a pirate, two hundred years too late Softweyr | The cannons don't thunder, there's nothing to plunder Consulting | I'm an over forty victim of fate... wes@intele.net | Jimmy Buffet From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 09:47:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19725 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19720 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08712; Fri, 5 Jan 96 11:47:43 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA00753; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:47:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:47:43 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601051747.AA00753@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: deasey@server1.netpath.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Geoffrey Deasey on Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:11:55 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: post install kernel source Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Deasey writes: Geoffrey> How may I install the kernel source tree without Geoffrey> re-installing from the cdrom I don't see how to do this, Geoffrey> I have looked through the FAQ but I still don't see how Geoffrey> to do this. Mount your cdrom drive: su mkdir /cdrom mount -r -t cd9660 /dev/cd0a /cdrom Substitute mcd0a if you have a Mitsumi CD-ROM+interface or wcd0a for an ATAPI, or scd0a for a Sony CD-ROM, or matcd0a for a Matsushita/Panasonic CD-ROM. Substitute 1 instead of 0 for the 2nd CD-ROM drive, 2 for the 3rd, etc. Next, extract the kernel sources: cat /cdrom/dists/src/ssys.?? | tar xzv -C / -f - You're done. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Last time I went to the movies I was thrown out for bringing my own food. My argument was that the concession stand prices are outrageous. Besides, I haven't had a Bar-B-Que in a long time. -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 09:50:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20025 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from arl-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (arl-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com [149.174.211.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20019 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) From: 72110.765@compuserve.com Received: from CISPPP (ad15-033.compuserve.com [199.174.142.33]) by arl-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA08960.; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:50:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:50:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199601051750.MAA08960@arl-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 2.1 Content-type: text/plain X-Mailer: AIR Mosaic (16-bit) version 3.10.08.25 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am new with FreeBSD and want to use it for a Web server. I just ordered the FreeBSD 2.1 cdrom. Does it come with the necessary tools to be a web server (ie. tcp_wrapper, syslog, popper, elm, etc)? I subscribed to the freebsd-isp mailing list. What other info is available about using FreeBSD as a web server? (ie. support forums, elm, etc.) Thanks, Tom Roberts From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 10:08:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21157 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21152 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id NAA28226; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:10:07 -0500 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199601051810.NAA28226@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: Tar backup to another machine ? To: scott@statsci.com Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:10:06 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199601051640.IAA18236@block.statsci.com> from "Scott Blachowicz" at Jan 5, 96 08:40:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > You would probably be better off using the "Amanda" port in "packages" > > if your intent is to perform remote backups. Yes! > > Is it possible to use amanda to do backups without having a "work" > disk? Yes .. but it will be slow and dump things directly to tape. > > Also, is it possible for amanda to put multiple days' backups on the same > tape? I've got a 2.3Gb tape drive (Exabyte), but I don't have THAT much > stuff to backup. Or does it really need one tape per backup run? has to be one tape at this point. > > Or am I better off just cobbling together my own scripts to automate it? > Or should I RTFM better/more thoroughly? :-) I would use amanda. -branson -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | work: e.b.matheson@larc.nasa.gov CSC SysAdmin | http://longstreet.larc.nasa.gov/~branson (w) 804-864-9700 |all other: ebm@visi.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 10:14:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21359 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21354 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:14:47 -0800 (PST) From: ptroot@uswest.com Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23237; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:14:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA27068; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:22:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01463; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:14:19 -0600 Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA01876; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:14:19 -0600 Message-Id: <9601051814.AA01876@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: post install kernel source To: deasey@server1.netpath.net (Geoffrey Deasey) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:14:18 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Geoffrey Deasey" at Jan 5, 96 12:11:55 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Geoffrey Deasey said: > > How may I install the kernel source tree without re-installing from the cdrom > I don't see how to do this, I have looked through the FAQ but I still > don't see how to do this. > > Thanks Mount the source CDROM, and use lndirs (in /usr/X11R6/bin) to link the sources from the CD to your /usr/src/sys. Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com MicroEmacs vs GNU Emacs: M-X enter-nuclear-reactor-control-mode isn't there, but I never used it much anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 10:17:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21517 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21510 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA02418; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:15:24 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601051815.LAA02418@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Tar backup to another machine ? To: scott@statsci.com Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:15:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, wjh@bhoss.ifx.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601051640.IAA18236@block.statsci.com> from "Scott Blachowicz" at Jan 5, 96 08:40:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > You would probably be better off using the "Amanda" port in "packages" > > if your intent is to perform remote backups. > > Is it possible to use amanda to do backups without having a "work" disk? > At one point, I was fiddling with using it to manage backups on my home > system, but I just want it to manage the dumps. I don't need it to > parallelize anything or buffer anything (nor do I have the free disk space > to allow it to). > > Also, is it possible for amanda to put multiple days' backups on the same > tape? I've got a 2.3Gb tape drive (Exabyte), but I don't have THAT much > stuff to backup. Or does it really need one tape per backup run? > > Or am I better off just cobbling together my own scripts to automate it? > Or should I RTFM better/more thoroughly? :-) Er. I have to admit to using rdump. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 10:25:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21831 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21826 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from block.statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYGpR-000r3tC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:25 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by block.statsci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA19589; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:25:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199601051825.KAA19589@block.statsci.com> To: Branson Matheson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Subject: Re: Tar backup to another machine ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jan 1996 13:10:06 -0500." <199601051810.NAA28226@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 10:25:24 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Branson Matheson wrote: > > Is it possible to use amanda to do backups without having a "work" > > disk? > > Yes .. but it will be slow and dump things directly to tape. Hmmm...I thought I'd tried the obvious things...maybe I'll have to go try again. > > Also, is it possible for amanda to put multiple days' backups on the same > > tape? I've got a 2.3Gb tape drive (Exabyte), but I don't have THAT much > > stuff to backup. Or does it really need one tape per backup run? > > has to be one tape at this point. Oh well...sometimes I'd like to be able to just leave a tape in the drive and let it just append to the tape. > I would use amanda. I'll have to revisit that... Thanx, Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 10:40:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA22656 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22651 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA24036 ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:40:16 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: scott@statsci.com cc: Branson Matheson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Subject: Re: Tar backup to another machine ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jan 1996 10:25:24 PST." <199601051825.KAA19589@block.statsci.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 10:40:15 -0800 Message-ID: <24034.820867215@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Scott Blachowicz wrote in message ID <199601051825.KAA19589@block.statsci.com>: > Branson Matheson wrote: > > > Is it possible to use amanda to do backups without having a "work" > > > disk? > > Yes .. but it will be slow and dump things directly to tape. > Hmmm...I thought I'd tried the obvious things...maybe I'll have to go try > again. If you get the source and look at the docs, it has an example of how to do it. Sorry, I can't remember offhand. It's ages since I touched our local Amanda setup. If it works, don't touch it :-) > > > Also, is it possible for amanda to put multiple days' backups on the same > > > tape? I've got a 2.3Gb tape drive (Exabyte), but I don't have THAT much > > > stuff to backup. Or does it really need one tape per backup run? > > has to be one tape at this point. > Oh well...sometimes I'd like to be able to just leave a tape in the drive > and let it just append to the tape. No can do. It keeps track of which tapes it can write to through a label scheme :-( Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 10:51:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23116 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23110 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA03981; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:51:07 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:51:01 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: HELP! I screwed-up my root system Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was dumb enough to add-on an external cdrom with the scsi device number of 0 (same as my root system /dev/sd0a) Now, I am trying to repair my filesystem and am having no luck. She reads the /kernel with no problem. When she loads up she complains that the root system is not clean (This is a legitimate error:) BUT THEN, during an "automatic reboot" she gives a memory fault signals 11 and poops. I have tried to boot off of a boot disk, but the kernel on the boot disk complains about the fact that the hardrives installed are over >1023 in cylinders (1gig+ drive) and then locks up. I was able to clean the other two hardrives on the system (usr2 & usr3) So my fsck program must be intact. I have managed to destroy the directory structure of the root device. I have downloaded and created the boot, root, and fixit floppys. What can I do to fix this puppy? Does anyone have any suggestions? I cannot find any documentation on the use of the fixit software. fsck error: /dev/rsd0a: I=359 mode=100664 pid 9 Thanx in advance Yours truely, -A bunch of dumb puter geeks Jeff (and about 8 others just staring at it right now!) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - (*: PC-SUPPORT 88 CS/SCMNPC :*) - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - (513) 257-9479 DSN: 787-9479 - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - - deanj@wpdis01.wpafb.af.mil (backup) - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 10:54:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23478 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23473 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id KAA21974 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA18879; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:53:37 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601051853.AA18879@tera.com> Subject: ppp (open_tun error) To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:53:36 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This morning when I tried to fire up user-ppp, I got the unexpected error that /dev/tun0 didn't exist. And ppp quit. A reboot solved the problem...but can anyone tell me what I did to get this error?? ...networking just isn't my strength, I guess. gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 10:58:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23636 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:58:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp-cv.cv.hp.com (hp-cv.cv.hp.com [15.255.72.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23629 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp-pcd.cv.hp.com by hp-cv.cv.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+IOS 3.22+CV 1.0ext) id AA118238322; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:58:43 -0800 Received: from hpcvusd.cv.hp.com by hp-pcd.cv.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+IOS 3.22+OM+CV 1.0) id AA107918321; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:58:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by hpcvusd.cv.hp.com with SMTP (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.22[SMTP-rly]+CV 1.0leaf) id AA00419; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:58:40 -0800 Message-Id: <9601051858.AA00419@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: crosswjo@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com Subject: User PPP and rtinit Date: Fri, 05 Jan 96 10:58:40 -0800 From: John Crosswhite Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a small problem. Unfortunately, I am not in front of my box currently so I cannot make this as precise as I want to. Here is the scenerio: Boot the machine Login Start PPP Connection Established Done with PPP session and disconnect NOW, when I attempt to start another ppp session after a good session has been disconnected wierd things start to happen. After the connection is established, I do a show ipcp in ppp and everything looks fine. Now I try to ping a host located on the remote network. I now check my ppp screen and BEHOLD a message from rtinit has arrived. The message is something like: rtinit: File Exists blah...blah...blah... (Sorry, it was late last night when it happened and I wasn't paying REAL close attention) Hopefully someone somewhere has seen this problem before and is able and willing to help. Thank you all in advance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Crosswhite : E-Mail: crosswjo@cv.hp.com System Administrator : Office: 541-715-4170 Hewlett Packard : Corvallis, OR : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 11:02:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA23864 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp-cv.cv.hp.com (hp-cv.cv.hp.com [15.255.72.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23859 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp-pcd.cv.hp.com by hp-cv.cv.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+IOS 3.22+CV 1.0ext) id AA118988545; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:02:25 -0800 Received: from hpcvusd.cv.hp.com by hp-pcd.cv.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+IOS 3.22+OM+CV 1.0) id AA111958544; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:02:24 -0800 Received: from localhost by hpcvusd.cv.hp.com with SMTP (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.22[SMTP-rly]+CV 1.0leaf) id AA00446; Fri, 5 Jan 96 11:02:23 -0800 Message-Id: <9601051902.AA00446@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: crosswjo@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com Subject: PPP and rinit (Continued) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 96 11:02:23 -0800 From: John Crosswhite Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sorry about that. I didn't specify a rev. That would be a 2.1-Release system. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Crosswhite : E-Mail: crosswjo@cv.hp.com System Administrator : Office: 541-715-4170 Hewlett Packard : Corvallis, OR : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 11:11:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA24353 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from izzy.net (izzy.net [198.108.102.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24345 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scg@localhost) by izzy.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA05412; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:12:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:12:33 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Gibbard X-Sender: scg@izzy4 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem building a new kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to build a new kernel on my FreeBSD 2.1.0 machine. The config and the make depend worked fine, but the make failed with the following error message: loading kernel kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol `_hw_float' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. Here's my configuration file: ----- # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp $ # #machine should always be "i386". cpu should be cpu the computer has. #In pokey's case, that's I486_CPU machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" #ident is the name of the computer. ident POKEY #maxusers does not limit the number of users; just the number #of processes. maxusers 20 #put in GPL_MATH_EMULATE for better fpu emulation options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem #options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device #put this back in if we ever have more than 16 MB of RAM #options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers #options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console #Apparrently useful mostly for X #options SYSVSHM #options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 #controller pci0 #PCI support controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #second IDE controller, third and fourth HDs. #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 #options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus #device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #controller ncr0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr #controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr #controller scbus0 #device sd0 #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console #device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 #options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 #Math Coprocessor #device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr #device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr #device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr #device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device lpt2 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log #pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device pseudo-device ppp 1 #pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's ---end of configuration file--- Thanks for your help. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Gibbard | Phone (work): +1 313 769-1500 | Pager: +1 313 325-4991 scg@lawtech.com | Phone (home): +1 313 994-9901 | Fax: +1 313 769-1501 Eidelman Associates: http://www.lawtech.com | Me: http://www.izzy.net/~scg From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 11:20:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA25032 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:20:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25022 Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA02547; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:19:18 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601051919.MAA02547@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: [Q] bus architecture books To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:19:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 4, 96 07:48:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Rod grimes is the real authority on this. i use the following > > isa system architecture, tom shanley adn don anderson, mindshare inc. > isbn 1-881609-05-7 recently republished by addison-wesley > pages 301-387 are isa bus, dma, interrupt system > > pci system architecture, tom shanley adn don anderson, mindshare inc. > isbn -1881609-08-1 recently republished by addison-wesley > pci bus only page 31-227, i82420 (saturn i??) pages 277-317 > > eisa system architecture, tom shanley only, mindshare inc. > dont have the isbn recently republished by addison-wesley > > mindshare@interserve.com I agree with Johnathan. The Shanley books are very, very good. Depending on how complete you want your library, I also recommend the IBM MCA books, the PCI SIG PCI bus spec, and the PCMCIA SIG PCMCIA specifications. The Microsoft Windows 95 DDK also contains: DDK/PlugPlay/Inc Include files DDK/PlugPlay/Samples Sample PNP code DDK/Docs/Pnp.doc Plug and play specification DDK/Docs/Pnp.hlp Same document in "help file" format There are also PNP documents on the Intel and Microsoft FTP sites. IBM and Apple both have the PReP standard on line. The PReP standard, which is also available in printed form for a miminal fee, describes a number of generic issues regarding ISA/PCI architecture that I have not seen as well covered elsewhere. In addition, the PReP standard formally documents the DOS partitioning schema, including extended partitions, and the majority of the OpenBoot process. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 11:38:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA26377 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from halon.sybase.com (halon.sybase.com [192.138.151.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26372 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.sybase.com (sybgate) by halon.sybase.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA28829; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:37:53 -0800 Received: from paloverde.sybgate.sybase.com by smtp1.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.4) id AA19121; Fri, 5 Jan 96 11:37:47 PST Received: by paloverde.sybgate.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybEC3.2) id AA09000; Fri, 5 Jan 96 14:37:47 EST Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 14:37:47 EST From: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk) Message-Id: <9601051937.AA09000@paloverde.sybgate.sybase.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ijppp - dynamic IP's and on-demand dialing Cc: jeffa@sybase.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I've read and scanned everything I can think of but I can't find any information regarding on-demand dialing to an ISP when the gateway IP is dynamically assigned. I do have ppp running just great, definining all the proper routes (including the default) and (a major accomplishment for me :-) setting the correct netmask (didn't realize it was a param on the set command). In any case, I have a new ISP that has assigned me a static IP address. However, the gateway IP is dynamic (depends upon the portmaster I get). Given that, I can't figure out how to setup the tun0 device with the proper default route such that ppp -auto will work correctly and reliably time after time. Basically I can usually get it to work for the very first time... but when the connection drops it deletes all of the routes. So far I: 1) ifconfig tun0 up 146.x.x.x 199.y.y.y netmask 0xffffff00 2) route add default 199.y.y.y 3) ppp -auto ultranet When a connection is made, ijppp does: ppp.conf: set ifaddr 146.x.x.x 0 255.255.255.0 ppp.linkup: delete ALL add 0 0 HISADDR Please note that the 199.y.y.y address listed above is sort of a fudged number. I really don't know what address I'll get, so I just use the address of one that I know. I assume the system will delete the address once the connection is made. Does someone have a list of available commands used in ppp.conf and ppp.linkup that might help me out? Thanks for any help! - Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 12:22:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA29342 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29337 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00587; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:25:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:25:01 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Finding interrupts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Linux has a /proc feature that allows you to look at interrupts, ioports, devices, etc. Does FreeBSD have any such feature? Thanks, Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 13:00:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA01088 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01081 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA10553; Fri, 5 Jan 96 15:00:46 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA07656; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:00:45 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:00:45 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601052100.AA07656@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: craigs@venus.os.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Craig Shrimpton on Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:25:01 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Finding interrupts Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Craig" == Craig Shrimpton writes: Craig> Greetings, Linux has a /proc feature that allows you to Craig> look at interrupts, ioports, devices, etc. Does FreeBSD Craig> have any such feature? Yes. If you're using FreeBSD 2.0.5 or later, you don't even need to recompile your kernel, since the proc filesystem is an automatically loaded kernel module. Add this line to your /etc/fstab proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 Then type, as root mount /proc You don't have to type that after you reboot ... since it's in /etc/fstab, it'll be mounted automatically. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth you'd probably be able to get a lot of free games. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 13:12:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA01631 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:12:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01625 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA01069; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:14:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:14:48 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: "Garrett A. Wollman" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Finding interrupts In-Reply-To: <9601052043.AA08677@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Garrett A. Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Linux has a /proc feature that allows you to look at interrupts, ioports, > > devices, etc. Does FreeBSD have any such feature? > > Look at them in what way? > Maybe I didn't make my question clear. If I do cat /proc/interrupts on a Linux box I'll get the following: 0: 23226271 timer 1: 26330 keyboard 2: 0 + cascade 3: 3312542 + serial 4: 554 + serial 10: 312677 3c509 11: 53650 + BusLogic 44xC 13: 1 math error 14: 81460 + ide0 This tells me what devices are on which interrupts and how many interrupts have occured since the last re-boot. cat /proc/ioports returns a similar output but IO location info instead of interrupts. My question is: does a similar facility exist in FreeBSD? Thanks, Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 13:53:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA05217 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05192 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11005; Fri, 5 Jan 96 15:52:31 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA07718; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:52:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:52:31 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601052152.AA07718@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: craigs@venus.os.com Cc: wollman@lcs.mit.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Craig Shrimpton on Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:14:48 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Finding interrupts Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Craig" == Craig Shrimpton writes: Craig> On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Garrett A. Wollman wrote: Craig> cat /proc/interrupts on a Linux box I'll get the following: Craig> [ ... ] Craig> This tells me what devices are on which interrupts and how Craig> many interrupts have occured since the last re-boot. cat Craig> /proc/ioports returns a similar output but IO location info Craig> instead of interrupts. Craig> My question is: does a similar facility exist in FreeBSD? Well, dmesg is a good start. It prints the system message buffer, part of which includes the boot-up messages, part of which are the device probes. That'll give you IRQ, ioport, etc. As for number of interrupts, try vmstat -i. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA I put contact lenses in my dog's eyes. They had little pictures of cats on them. Then I took one out and he ran around in circles. -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 14:05:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA06266 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA06252 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA25247; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:02:59 +0200 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:02:59 +0200 Message-Id: <199601052202.AAA25247@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Wes Santee Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Thruput at 28.8 slower than 24.4. Huh? In-Reply-To: <199601040452.UAA03578@wsantee.oz.net> References: <199601040452.UAA03578@wsantee.oz.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Wes Santee writes: > Okay, first my setup: > > When the receive speed of my modem is set to 24.4 - 26.6bps, > everything is smooth as silk. When I get a true 28.8 connection, > however, my throughput slows down to about 1/10th the speed it was > running at w/26.6bps or below. At 28.8, I'll get a burst of > something, then nothing for a couple seconds, then another burst, > etc. At 26.6 data just streams away. > > Any ideas from the software side what this might be before > suspecting hardware? > It's likely that your modem is clueless enough not to drop the rate when it really should but instead is experiencing high error rates at 28800 when it could get almost all it's data through with only a little lower rate. Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 14:48:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA08345 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ledzeppelin.microdot.com (microdot.com [204.71.144.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08340 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ledzeppelin.microdot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA10646; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:49:00 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:48:59 +0000 () From: "Steve M. Spiller" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Routing question? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm not sure it this is possible but ... Right now I have a local network that consists of two machines, 205.134.198.1 and 205.134.198.2. My FreeBSD machineis 205.134.198.1 to my local net. THis machine is connected to the internet via a dedicated PPP connection. The PPP server assigns me an address of 204.71.144.66. When I telnet/ftp/etc from my FreeBSD box, the world sees me as 204.71.144.66, I would like it if the world saw that machine as 205.134.198.1... Is there a way to send my packets to my local net first and have them routed back out to the net? Is what I am asking feasable/possible/or totally off th wall/go jump in a lake/no way in hell? Thanks for any responses. ;) -Steve steve@microdot.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 15:10:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA09403 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA09392 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08095; Sat, 6 Jan 96 00:11:34 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 96 00:11:34 +0100 Message-Id: <9601052311.AA08095@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DOOM (registered version) X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Do the registered version of doom work with the linux emulator? I tried the registered doom.wad and got the following error: ... D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status. startskill 2 deathmatch: 0 startmap: 1 startepisode: 1 player 1 of 1 (1 nodes) S_Init: Setting up sound. HU_Init: Setting up heads up display. ST_Init: Init status bar. Error: W_GetNumForName: STBAR not found! Jean-Marc _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 15:51:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA11956 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11950 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from o'a÷7 (volodars@f-umbc9.umbc.edu [130.85.3.12]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA16046 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:50:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199601052350.SAA16046@ds1.gl.umbc.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 96 18:52:15 -0800 From: Joseph Volodarsky Organization: University of Maryland, Balitmore County X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does your cd-rom has drivers for trident agui9440agi? If not , I heard the new beta version of xfree86 has the drivers. Would you know where I can download it from? Thanks, Joseph Volodarsky. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 15:56:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA12164 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.Ipsilon.COM (foo-5-10.Ipsilon.COM [205.226.5.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12159 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:56:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.Ipsilon.COM (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA04956 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:56:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199601052356.PAA04956@mailhost.Ipsilon.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: mailhost.Ipsilon.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: releasing FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 15:56:15 -0800 From: Frances Ho Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm wondering if someone can point me towards documentation on how one would go about creating a new FreeBSD variant release - how did some of your users release their customized FreeBSD? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -Frances From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 15:59:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA12253 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:59:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12247 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id PAA01439; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:59:31 -0800 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa21882; 5 Jan 96 15:29 PST Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA00294; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:21:35 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:21:35 GMT Message-Id: <199601051521.PAA00294@Grizzly.COM> From: Mark Diekhans To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PCMCIA modem problems Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to get the port of the 2.0 pcmcia driver and daemon to 2.1 posted by Dan Mutz working. The card I have is a Cardinal 28.8 modem. Everything seems to be working find. The kernel recognizes the insertion of the card: Jan 5 14:51:47 kestrel /kernel: qcic: card inserted in slot 0 If pcmciad is running when the card is inserted, the whole system locks up with the bell ringing until the card is removed. It doen't work much better if the card is inserted before pcmciad is started. However, if the system is booted with the card in the slot things work a lot better when pcmciad is started (see output below). The daemon recognizes the card and appears to configure the sio1 correctly: Jan 5 15:07:25 kestrel /kernel: sio1: type 16550A But any attempt to open /dev/cuaa1 just hangs. It would be perfectly acceptable to boot with the card in, so getting around the hand is enough. Bios is: PhoenixBIOS A486 1.03 04L Any help greatly appreciated, Mark ============================================================================== Output of debug pcmciad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #pcmciad -v -d Card manuf Cardinal Technologi, vers MVP288C2 Configuration entries: Index code = 0x21, driver name = sio1 Device type = 2 Tuple code = 0x1, len = 2 Tuple code = 0x15, len = 40 Tuple code = 0x20, len = 4 Tuple code = 0x21, len = 2 Tuple code = 0x22, len = 4 Tuple code = 0x22, len = 9 Tuple code = 0x22, len = 9 Tuple code = 0x22, len = 9 Tuple code = 0x22, len = 13 Tuple code = 0x22, len = 9 Tuple code = 0x22, len = 9 Tuple code = 0x22, len = 18 Tuple code = 0x1a, len = 5 Tuple code = 0x1b, len = 20 Tuple code = 0x1b, len = 7 Tuple code = 0x1b, len = 7 Tuple code = 0x1b, len = 7 Tuple code = 0x1b, len = 3 Tuple code = 0xff, len = 0 Using I/O addr 0x2f8, size 8 Setting config reg at offs 0x200 to 0x21 Reset time = 50 ms Setting CCSR reg to 0x28 Assigning I/O window 0, start 0x2f8, size 0x8 Assign sio1, io 0x2f8, mem 0x0, 0 bytes, irq 3 ============================================================================== /etc/pcmcia.conf: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Pool parameters. # io 0x2F8 - 0x360 irq 3 memory 0xd4000 96k # # Card database. # card "Cardinal Technologi" "MVP288C2" tty config 0x21 "sio1" 3 device tty ============================================================================== sio1 entry in kernel config file ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr ============================================================================== Output of dumpcis: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 2 000: 00 ff Common memory device information: Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF Speed = No speed, Memory block size = reserved, 32 units Tuple #2, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 40 000: 04 01 43 61 72 64 69 6e 61 6c 20 54 65 63 68 6e 010: 6f 6c 6f 67 69 65 73 00 4d 56 50 32 38 38 43 32 020: 00 30 32 31 00 41 00 ff Version = 4.1, Manuf = [Cardinal Technologies],card vers = [MVP288C2] Addit. info = [021],[A] Tuple #3, code = 0x20 (Manufacturer ID), length = 4 000: 13 00 00 00 PCMCIA ID = 0x13, OEM ID = 0x0 Tuple #4, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 2 000: 02 00 Serial port/modem Tuple #5, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 4 000: 00 02 0f 5c Serial interface extension: 16550 UART, Parity - Space,Mark,Odd,Even, Tuple #6, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 9 000: 05 1f 0f 00 03 00 00 03 00 Modem interface capabilities: Tuple #7, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 9 000: 06 1f 0f cc 04 00 cc 04 00 Modem interface capabilities: Tuple #8, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 9 000: 07 1f 0f cc 04 00 cc 04 00 Modem interface capabilities: Tuple #9, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 13 000: 02 06 00 3f 39 03 03 0f 07 00 01 b5 ff Data modem services available: Tuple #10, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 9 000: 13 06 00 1f 00 7a 00 b5 ff Tuple #11, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 9 000: 23 06 00 1f 00 32 00 b5 ff Tuple #12, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 18 000: 84 06 00 0b 02 07 14 00 10 00 08 00 04 00 02 00 010: 00 00 Tuple #13, code = 0x1a (Configuration map), length = 5 000: 01 30 00 02 17 Reg len = 2, config register addr = 0x200, last config = 0x30 Registers: XXX-X--- Tuple #14, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 20 000: e0 41 9d 78 3d 86 46 26 4c e7 5f aa 60 f8 03 07 010: 30 bc 86 28 Config index = 0x20(default) Interface byte = 0x41 (I/O) +RDY/-BSY active Vcc pwr: Continuous supply current: 3.5 x 10mA Max current average over 1 second: 1 x 100mA, ext = 0x46 Max current average over 10 ms: 2 x 100mA Power down supply current: 4.5 x 1mA RDY/BSY scale Speed = 5.0 x 10 ms, scaled by 10 Card decodes 31 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O IRQ modes: Pulse IRQs: NMI IOCK BERR VEND 0 1 2 3 4 6 9 11 13 15 Max twin cards = 0 Misc attr: (Audio-BVD2) (Read-only) (Power down supported) (Ext byte = 0x3) Tuple #15, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 000: 21 08 aa 60 f8 02 07 Config index = 0x21 Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only I/O address # 1: block start = 0x2f8 block length = 0x8 Tuple #16, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 000: 22 08 aa 60 e8 03 07 Config index = 0x22 Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only I/O address # 1: block start = 0x3e8 block length = 0x8 Tuple #17, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 000: 23 08 aa 60 e8 02 07 Config index = 0x23 Card decodes 10 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only I/O address # 1: block start = 0x2e8 block length = 0x8 Tuple #18, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 3 000: 30 08 23 Config index = 0x30 Card decodes 3 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only Tuple #19, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 2 slots found ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 16:12:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA12695 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from macatawa.org (freenet.macatawa.org [206.26.113.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12690 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by macatawa.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (Mod 8/5/95.1)) id AA29242; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 19:12:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 19:12:19 -0500 (EST) From: Kendall Koning To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel Compiling in 2.1.0-RELEASE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am experiencing problems compiling the Kernel. I follow the directions outlines in the FAQ, but the config MYKERNEL line is confusing... does it mean to actually type config MYKERNEL? because I tried that, and it didn't work. Meanwhile, I can't run X, because I have a PS/2 style mouse (requires kernel recompile) It's a newly installed system, I chose the custom install, and installed all of the sources (except for X) and all but a few of the ports... I'm probably doing something really stupid, but any sugesstions would be appriciated... (This is my first ever experience with UNIX besides the InterNET.) -kkoning From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 16:40:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA13780 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13709 Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA03139; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:37:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601060037.RAA03139@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: [Q] bus architecture books To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:37:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.org, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601051919.MAA02547@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jan 5, 96 12:19:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I agree with Johnathan. The Shanley books are very, very good. ^-- Ugh. Pretend I didn't put this 'h' in here. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 16:42:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA13891 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13886 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA03156; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:40:49 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601060040.RAA03156@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Problem building a new kernel To: scg@lawtech.com (Steve Gibbard) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:40:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve Gibbard" at Jan 5, 96 02:12:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm trying to build a new kernel on my FreeBSD 2.1.0 machine. The config > and the make depend worked fine, but the make failed with the following > error message: > > loading kernel > kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol `_hw_float' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 One of these a week until npx0 is no longer optional, that's all I ask. Anyone in charge of files.i386 and LINT and GENERIC getting the hint yet? Uncomment this line in your config file to fix your problem: > #device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 17:46:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA16496 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16491 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02095; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:46:22 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:46:21 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: 72110.765@compuserve.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 In-Reply-To: <199601051750.MAA08960@arl-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996 72110.765@compuserve.com wrote: > > I am new with FreeBSD and want to use it for a Web server. I just > ordered the FreeBSD 2.1 cdrom. Does it come with the necessary > tools to be a web server (ie. tcp_wrapper, syslog, popper, elm, etc)? Yes, the packages and ports are on the CD. > I subscribed to the freebsd-isp mailing list. What other info is available > about using FreeBSD as a web server? (ie. support forums, elm, etc.) AFAIK none specifically for FreeBSD. Questions is a good start. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 17:50:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA16624 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16586 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02379; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:50:07 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:50:06 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Kendall Koning cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Compiling in 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Kendall Koning wrote: > I am experiencing problems compiling the Kernel. > I follow the directions outlines in the FAQ, but the > config MYKERNEL > line is confusing... > does it mean to actually type > config MYKERNEL? > because I tried that, and it didn't work. > Meanwhile, I can't run X, because I have a PS/2 style mouse > (requires kernel recompile) Substitute whatever you called your kernel configuration file (in my case GDI) for MYKERNEL. So if you called your config file BLAH, then you would type config BLAH > I'm probably doing something really stupid, but any sugesstions would be > appriciated... (This is my first ever experience with UNIX besides the > InterNET.) Did you even generate a new kernel config file? Ie copy GENERIC and edit it? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 17:52:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA16706 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:52:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16663 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02488; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:52:16 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:52:15 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Kline cc: James Raynard , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux_emu: bus error In-Reply-To: <9601050240.AA19019@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > Just wondering if somebody can post a step-by-step list > of things to do in order to let FBSD run Linux stuff. I will do this, eventually. Right now is kinda sticky, since school will be starting up next week and I need to move back in. A couple of people have posted some other docs, try searching the questions archive for those. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 17:54:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA16798 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16793 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02562; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:54:06 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:54:05 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Geoffrey Deasey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mountd messages after a cdrom install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Geoffrey Deasey wrote: > I get a message > > starting network deamons tickadj ntpdate portmap mountdJan 5 01:35:14 > dakota mountd[80] Can't open /var/db/mountdtab > > Is this why I cannot re-mount the cdrom in /stand/sysinstall > I seem to have forgotten the kernel source and need to re-compile to get Just pull them off of ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/src/ssys.* then cat ssys.* | tar xzf - Then make a config file and compile away. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:06:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA17309 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line5.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17304 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA03320; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:06:34 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:06:33 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Michael Smith cc: shovey@buffnet.net, fqueries@parody.tecc.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NON Adaptec PCI SCSI ?? In-Reply-To: <199601050404.OAA13325@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > Just of curiosity, have you actually checked to see whether you have the > SDMS BIOS code in your system? How would I know? I highly doubt it, the MB is a year old. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:12:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA17627 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17622 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:12:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id SAA23977; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA01894; Fri, 5 Jan 96 18:11:10 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601060211.AA01894@tera.com> Subject: Re: linux_emu: bus error To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:11:22 -0800 (PST) Cc: kline@tera.com, fqueries@parody.tecc.co.uk, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 5, 96 05:52:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to Doug White: > > On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Just wondering if somebody can post a step-by-step list > > of things to do in order to let FBSD run Linux stuff. > > I will do this, eventually. Right now is kinda sticky, since school will > be starting up next week and I need to move back in. > > A couple of people have posted some other docs, try searching the > questions archive for those. > I'll wait for your write-up. For the past few weeks I've been saving notes on a small number of topics that I'll write up How-To tutorial on. My thinking is that, presenting these configuration tutorials _here_ will help others get things working. Comments and feedback, will improve my howto files; then I'll give them to the documentation group. A write-up with several concrete examples serves as a good starting point. gary kline > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:12:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA17659 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from alaska.nwlink.com (root@alaska.nwlink.com [199.242.23.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17654 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from bugni (port12.annex2.nwlink.com [204.96.80.12]) by alaska.nwlink.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA27660 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:14:18 -0800 Message-ID: <30EDDAE0.2F2B@advmarine.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 18:13:52 -0800 From: Paul Bugni Organization: Advanced Marine Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Embedding Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm currently gathering information about embedable operating systems to possibly use for a marine navigation/charting system. A friend has turned me on to FreeBSD, and I'm wondering if anyone has experience in embedding this OS, and in working with the Mach lites extension. QNX or OS9 seem to offer most of what I need, but the light weight thread possibilities as well as the avialiable tools make FreeBSD a potentially more attractive choice. Thanks for any information you can provide. Paul Bugni. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:14:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA17708 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17701 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16813 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 19:14:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA00812 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 19:22:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02552; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:14:11 -0600 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <9601060214.AA02552@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: creating handbook To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:14:11 -0600 (CST) X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I took the handbook down to my FreeBSD machine, used /stand/sysinstall to install tex-3.1415 and latex-2.09 and this is what I get: > This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.1) > (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) When I pkg_delete latex-2.09 and installed lates2e, I tried building the handbook, and I get the same errors as on my Sparc, on Contents or cross-links. What's going on? And how do you use pkg_add (100 words or less, ok I haven't really RTFM). Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service proot@acs.uswest.com I hear there's some exciting developments in rubber squeak toys! - The Tick From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:18:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA17840 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line2.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17833 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA03352; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:17:54 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:17:53 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Kline cc: kline@tera.com, fqueries@parody.tecc.co.uk, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux_emu: bus error In-Reply-To: <9601060211.AA01894@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > I'll wait for your write-up. For the past > few weeks I've been saving notes on a small > number of topics that I'll write up How-To > tutorial on. Hokey. > > My thinking is that, presenting these > configuration tutorials _here_ will help > others get things working. Comments > and feedback, will improve my howto files; > then I'll give them to the documentation > group. Good idea. I will get something together and then *test them* on some virgin 2.1 machines I have back in my dorm. That won't be until Sunday or Monday, however. > A write-up with several concrete examples > serves as a good starting point. Agreed. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:20:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA17992 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-29.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17986 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00299; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:24:42 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:24:42 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov To: Steve Gibbard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem building a new kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Steve Gibbard wrote: > I'm trying to build a new kernel on my FreeBSD 2.1.0 machine. The config > and the make depend worked fine, but the make failed with the following > error message: > > loading kernel > kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol `_hw_float' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 This makes the (approximately) 6.02e23'rd time I've seen this asked... YOU DISABLED THE "npx0" DEVICE IN YOUR KERNEL CONFIG FILE. THE "npx0" DEVICE IN THE KERNEL IS **NOT** OPTIONAL. EVEN IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A FLOATING POINT UNIT IN YOUR COMPUTER, THIS IS STILL REQUIRED, BECAUSE IT INTERFACES TO THE SOFTWARE EMULATION CODE. So, in short, put this line back in: device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr #define SOAPBOX_MODE I've asked this before, and I've seen others ask it too, but shouldn't there be a comment in the GENERIC and LINT kernel files (distributed with the kernel) to the effect of "the npx0 device is mandatory!!!"... ...OR, if the user disables it, either: a) print a warning/error message when the user runs config, or b) munge up the source code so that, if npx0 is commented out, it'll still work (and refer to the software emulator?) #undef SOAPBOX_MODE Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:21:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA18026 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line2.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18018 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:21:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA03362; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:21:44 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:21:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Steve M. Spiller" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing question? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Steve M. Spiller wrote: > Right now I have a local network that consists of two machines, > 205.134.198.1 and 205.134.198.2. My FreeBSD machineis 205.134.198.1 to > my local net. THis machine is connected to the internet via a dedicated > PPP connection. The PPP server assigns me an address of 204.71.144.66. OK there. > When I telnet/ftp/etc from my FreeBSD box, the world sees me as > 204.71.144.66, I would like it if the world saw that machine as > 205.134.198.1... Um, no. You need to bug your PPP server into assigning you a static address of .198.1. You can't just go moving IPs around, especially within a different Class A network (204 v 205). The server needs to know who you are so it can route packets for you. Is 205.134.198.1 an authorized IP address? > Thanks for any responses. ;) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:23:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA18139 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-29.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18134 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00348; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:27:28 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:27:28 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov To: Craig Shrimpton cc: "Garrett A. Wollman" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Finding interrupts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Craig Shrimpton wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Garrett A. Wollman wrote: > > > < said: > > > > > Linux has a /proc feature that allows you to look at interrupts, ioports, > > > devices, etc. Does FreeBSD have any such feature? > > > > Look at them in what way? > > > > Maybe I didn't make my question clear. If I do cat /proc/interrupts on a > Linux box I'll get the following: > > 0: 23226271 timer > 1: 26330 keyboard > 2: 0 + cascade > 3: 3312542 + serial > 4: 554 + serial > 10: 312677 3c509 > 11: 53650 + BusLogic 44xC > 13: 1 math error > 14: 81460 + ide0 > > This tells me what devices are on which interrupts and how many > interrupts have occured since the last re-boot. cat /proc/ioports > returns a similar output but IO location info instead of interrupts. > > My question is: does a similar facility exist in FreeBSD? FreeBSd has a command "systat" that does something similar, I think. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 18:56:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA19264 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19258 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id SAA27070; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:55:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02982; Fri, 5 Jan 96 18:55:06 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601060255.AA02982@tera.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: 72110.765@compuserve.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 5, 96 05:46:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to Doug White: > > On Fri, 5 Jan 1996 72110.765@compuserve.com wrote: > > > > > I am new with FreeBSD and want to use it for a Web server. I just > > ordered the FreeBSD 2.1 cdrom. Does it come with the necessary > > tools to be a web server (ie. tcp_wrapper, syslog, popper, elm, etc)? > > Yes, the packages and ports are on the CD. > > > I subscribed to the freebsd-isp mailing list. What other info is available > > about using FreeBSD as a web server? (ie. support forums, elm, etc.) > > AFAIK none specifically for FreeBSD. Questions is a good start. > Here are some comments that are at least slightly tangential to this subject. I've looked in the /cdrom/ports directory for things that I've got (and have had) on my old SVR4 box. elm, cnews, and scores of others things. To date, virtually nothing has been plug and play. Nothing (except for xemacs) has auto-configured and ``just worked.'' I was a bit surprised that software on the FreeBSD CD is not BSD-specific. At least mostly. I've been porting for more years than I care to admit, and I'll finish up with the same environment as is on my old 386.... but am I doing something stupid? Is there some pre-config magic for FreeBSD hidden away somewhere?? Better to ask this now than wait until I've re-re-re-invented the wheel! gary kline PS: Last night, I finally got the nameserver stuff to work (Thanks, Chuck!), and after retrieving elm2.4.tar.Z, the build quit with a checksum error.... So, back to start-from-scratch mode. If I'm screwing up, would somebody please shine some light!? > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 20:27:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA23369 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:27:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA23362 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA08168; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:29:03 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:29:00 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Postgres95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Anyone had any success getting this to compile and run? I got it to compile cleanly (sort of:) using flex instead of lex, but either way it just gives me... sasami: {47} ./postmaster Bad system call (core dumped) | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 21:16:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA25146 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:16:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25136 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA03591; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:14:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601060514.WAA03591@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Problem building a new kernel To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:14:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: scg@lawtech.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Jan 5, 96 06:24:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > b) munge up the source code so that, if npx0 is commented out, it'll > still work (and refer to the software emulator?) This is easy. 1) Remove references to a defined NPX variable. Treat #ifdef'ed code as if it were defined to be 1. 2) Remove the line from the config file 3) In /sys/i386/conf/files.i386, change: i386/isa/npx.c optional npx device-driver to: i386/isa/npx.c standard Then the problem will never happen again. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 21:23:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA25630 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:23:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25623 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from richard@localhost) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA07570; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 15:24:20 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 15:24:20 +0000 () From: Richard J Uren To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Postgres95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > > Anyone had any success getting this to compile and run? > > I got it to compile cleanly (sort of:) using flex instead of lex, but > either way it just gives me... > > sasami: {47} ./postmaster > Bad system call (core dumped) > Hey Matt - You'll need to add options to your kernel. I'm not sure about the messaging tho. Bad system call is probably an effort to grab/alloc some shared memory. options SYSVSHM # Shared Memory options "SHMMAXPGS=1536" # 6M (1536 4k pages) sh memory options SYSVSEM # semaphores options SYSVMSG # messaging BTW - Im using FreeBSD 2.0.5 Hope this helps. Cheers Richard From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 21:46:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA26458 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26452 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13708; Fri, 5 Jan 96 23:46:50 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA08295; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:46:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:46:49 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601060546.AA08295@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: kkoning@freenet.macatawa.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Kendall Koning on Fri, 5 Jan 1996 19:12:19 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Kernel Compiling in 2.1.0-RELEASE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Kendall" == Kendall Koning writes: Kendall> I am experiencing problems compiling the Kernel. I Kendall> follow the directions outlines in the FAQ, but the config Kendall> MYKERNEL line is confusing... does it mean to actually Kendall> type config MYKERNEL? Yes. Or if you named your kernel configuration file something else, like MYOTHERKERNEL, then type ``config MYOTHERKERNEL''. Kendall> because I tried that, and it didn't work. Did you get an error message? What message? -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Anybody who has an identity problem had better wise up and get with the program! -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 21:49:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA26570 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu (wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu [136.165.243.183]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26564 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wangel@localhost) by wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00276; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:47:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:47:23 -0500 (EST) From: Wicked Angel To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ATAPI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HELP! :) I have an ATAPI IDE cdrom. The Cdrom is attached to my SB32 IDE controller. I have recompiled my kernel, and wdc1 will find itself on ISA 15, but after that I can not find my CDROM I've even tried the Boot Disk, any ideas? Thanks guys From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 21:51:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA26651 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26645 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA02488 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:48:58 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199601052148.VAA02488@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: speaker To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:48:57 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Where can I locate more information in programming the speaker or sending data to the speaker ? Thank you for your help. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 5 22:14:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA27254 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA27249 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA14121; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:15:45 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:15:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Richard J Uren cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Postgres95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, Richard J Uren wrote: > Hey Matt - You'll need to add options to your kernel. > I'm not sure about the messaging tho. Yep, I discovered this right after I sent the message. I thought I had compiled this stuff in, but I guess I didn't. > Bad system call is probably an effort to grab/alloc some shared memory. > > options SYSVSHM # Shared Memory > options "SHMMAXPGS=1536" # 6M (1536 4k pages) sh memory > options SYSVSEM # semaphores > options SYSVMSG # messaging > Thanks, and have a good one. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 00:28:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA04418 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA04410 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:28:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA05124; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:28:46 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:28:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Kline cc: 72110.765@compuserve.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 In-Reply-To: <9601060255.AA02982@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > To date, virtually nothing has been plug and > play. Nothing (except for xemacs) has auto-configured > and ``just worked.'' I was a bit surprised that > software on the FreeBSD CD is not BSD-specific. At > least mostly. Odd. I've had the opposite experience. The only thing I've had trouble with is TeX (which I'm now recompiling, and crossing my fingers). Everything else has been `make', `su', `make install', `rehash' and run. > I've been porting for more years than I care to > admit, and I'll finish up with the same environment > as is on my old 386.... but am I doing something > stupid? Is there some pre-config magic for FreeBSD > hidden away somewhere?? Better to ask this now > than wait until I've re-re-re-invented the wheel! I haven't a clue. You must have just picked the wrong ports, I guess :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 01:30:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA06441 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA06395 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA07953; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:30:40 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:30:39 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: TeX: no `mf' files? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I don't quite know where this question belongs, I guess it could be related to having problems with making the handbook (even though I'm trying to make a test document :-) ). It probably belongs in ports...in any case... Apparently, dvips has a problem finding a file called `cmbx10.mf'. Looking in the mf(1) man page, it mentiones /usr/local/lib/texmf/fonts/mf, a directory which doesn't exist on my system. I built the tex, latex, latex209, and dvips ports, in that order. Pointers? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 02:49:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA10644 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from synthcom.com (beacon.synthcom.com [198.145.98.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA10637 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sql.synthcom.com (old.synthcom.com [198.145.98.5]) by synthcom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA01143 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:47:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199601061047.CAA01143@synthcom.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 96 02:42:17 0000 From: Neil Bradley X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Trouble with 2940/7870 SCSI X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've just installed FreeBSD 2.1.0 off the CDROM on my Pentium 100 machine, and intermittently I get timeouts on the on-board SCSI adapter (based on the Adaptec 7870). It issues a reset to the controller, the drive light goes off and it never comes back. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 02:59:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA10844 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:59:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from synthcom.com (beacon.synthcom.com [198.145.98.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA10838 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:59:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sql.synthcom.com (old.synthcom.com [198.145.98.5]) by synthcom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA01155 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:57:44 -0800 Message-Id: <199601061057.CAA01155@synthcom.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 96 02:52:36 0000 From: Neil Bradley X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2940/7870 SCSI problems X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sorry about that - I accidentally hit 'send' before I was done. Anyway, the 7870 chip that's on the motherboard is a PCI mapped SCSI controller (the same that's on the 2940 card). It's mapped to IRQ 9 on bootup. I've slowed the transfer rate down to 5MB/s and it doesn't make any difference. I'm using a 2Gigabyte Barracuda drive. It successfully was running under FreeBSD 1.1.5 with a 1542CF in another machine, so the drive itself isn't at fault. On bootup, I get "Can't read Serial EEPROM, using BIOS settings". This is because the 7870 on the motherboard stores the data in extended CMOS instead of on the onboard Serial EEPROM. Putting the 2940 card in with the on-board controller causes a panic at bootup (the driver apparently doesn't like multiple 2940 cards in the same machine). If I put the 2940 card in a different machine (a Pentium 75), no lockups occur and everything runs fine. The motherboard in question is an Intel Altair board (EISA, 4 PCI slots, on board Cirrus (barf) video, 32MB of RAM, an on board PS/2 mouse/keyboard controller, Adaptec 7870 controller). It's a dual CPU machine, but only one CPU is installed (100MHZ). This machine successfully runs Windows NT and Windows 95 (has been for over a year). I'm trying to upgrade. ;-) Any clues? Thanks for the info! -->Neil From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 03:18:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA11827 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 03:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tanelorn.NETural.com (thekind@i.hate.idiot.users.so.much.it.hurts.NETural.com [206.54.248.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA11816 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 03:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thekind@localhost) by tanelorn.NETural.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id FAA01364; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 05:18:56 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 05:18:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam W. Dace" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Device Support / PCI Ethernet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, due to a suggestion of a friend I'm currently wanting to test out FreeBSD in hopes of abondoning Linux on our servers here. I love Linux to death, but it's networking is a bit uhm, hacked shall I say? I've also heard with FreeBSD NFS is actually does quite well in the performance department, where Linux's is more of a joke than anything else.. One thing disturbs me, however. Lack of PCI Ethernet support. Both of our servers have 3c590 PCI 10Base-T cards in them, and my desktop machine at work is a SMC-WD DE435-based chipsed PCI card (I forget the actually manufacturer's product name). Ala Linux it is: Oct 31 16:18:51 tanelorn kernel: eth0: DE435 at 0xd000 (PCI device 15), h/w address 00:00:c0:0a:03:c6, Oct 31 16:18:51 tanelorn kernel: and requires IRQ5 (not probed). Oct 31 16:18:51 tanelorn kernel: de4x5.c:v0.241 4/18/95 davies@wanton.lkg.dec.co I saw on the www.freebsd.org archives that 3c590 support is in the FreeBSD-current source tree as of recently, by any chance is the DE435 chipset supported as well? Also, is there any chance of actually running a -stable- server off of these "current" kernels? Perhaps its possible to patch in drivers into the "release" kernel as I've done with Linux 1.2.13? Hoping to watch FreeBSD scream on his desktop, | Adam W. Dace | NETural Communications, Inc. | | Technical Zone Contact | Paying too much for your Net access? | | http://www.NETural.com/ | NETural Voice: (312) 819-2231 | From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 03:40:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA13797 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 03:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.local (slip139-92-42-147.emea.ibm.net [139.92.42.147]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA13682 Sat, 6 Jan 1996 03:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.local (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA00553; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:12:33 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199601051012.LAA00553@vector.jhs.local> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.jhs.local: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Joe Greco cc: gestur@islandia.is (Gestur A. Grjetarsson), freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, admin@islandia.is Subject: Re: prevent paralell modem connection Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. (Internet Unix & C Consultants) Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending reconfig) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH version 1.6.5 95 12 11 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 1996 11:27:05 CST." <199601031727.LAA13230@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 11:12:33 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: Joe Greco > > > > If so, is there a way to prevent people to be able to get connection on > > the system from two or more places at one time, like if users share their > > accounts, taking two modems and only paying for one account ? > > Sure. Stick a "cron" job in to count the number of times that a user is on > a tty line. Think about something like: > > #! /bin/sh - > > This is of course very simplistic but could be effective if run out of cron, > > This is simpler than the network/X11 pty case, of course.. ;-) > The solution reminds me of the games-user killer I wrote in sh in 1978 on V6, (to zap users playing games, to free ttys for programmer friends), simple but effective, but occasionally went wrong during development, & consumed processor resources. I know of a local ISP here (not FreeBSD I guess) who has some kind of `single line only' login facility (no names, to preserve the innocent ;-) I'm sure one could hack login.c to do a nicer solution, in fact if someone waved real money at me I would :-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 04:14:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA16068 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 04:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA16053 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 04:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA15767; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 07:15:27 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601061215.HAA15767@hda.com> Subject: Re: Embedding To: bugni@advmarine.com (Paul Bugni) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 07:15:27 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <30EDDAE0.2F2B@advmarine.com> from "Paul Bugni" at Jan 5, 96 06:13:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I'm currently gathering information about embedable > operating systems to possibly use for a marine > navigation/charting system. > > A friend has turned me on to FreeBSD, and I'm wondering if > anyone has experience in embedding this OS, and in working > with the Mach lites extension. > > QNX or OS9 seem to offer most of what I need, but the > light weight thread possibilities as well as the > avialiable tools make FreeBSD a potentially more > attractive choice. We had an "embedded" 386bsd a few years back, controlling a stepper motor driven throttle, fuel flow, and fan speed for a combustion experiment. This control was running outside the kernel. You should have some way to measure worse case jitter since it is hard to find everywhere interrupts are disabled. Yes, it was a hack but it worked well. What are your needs for disk and memory footprint, device support, and response? If you are thinking of using the real time mach in a FreeBSD environment then you'll want to hook up with the mach and mach-rt newsgroups. One warning - you'll definitely be in a small corner of the FreeBSD world. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 05:32:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA21347 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 05:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from strider.ibenet.it (root@Strider.Free.IT [194.179.131.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA21340 Sat, 6 Jan 1996 05:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.7.3/8.6.12) id OAA21275; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:30:07 +0100 (MET) From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199601061330.OAA21275@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: Re: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:30:05 +0100 (MET) Cc: mbarkah@hemi.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601011606.KAA10803@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Jan 1, 96 10:06:58 am Reply-To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-NCC-RegID: it.ibenet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello. Quoting from Joe Greco (Mon Jan 1 17:06:58 1996): > 3. Copy the new pwd.db and group files into ~ftp/etc, and make them both > mode 0440. Change owner to "root.daemon". > 4. Copy /bin/ls into ~ftp/bin. Change owner to "root.daemon", and change > the mode to 2111... > > Now nobody can access your pwd.db or group files, but ls can, because it is > a member of the appropriate group... > > I know this may seem overly paranoid to people, but you never know what > tricks someone might use to gain access to your system, and the lower your > profile, the safer you may be... I simply edit the master.passwd I use to generate spwd.db and pwd.db, I lock out all the accounts I leave in, compile the db and no 's' bit is needed. My master.passwd looks like: root:*:0:0::0:0:System Administrator:/:/nonexistant daemon:*:1:1::0:0:System deamons:/:/nonexistant bin:*:3:7::0:0:Binaries pseudo-user:/:/nonexistant games:*:7:13::0:0:Games pseudo-user:/:/nonexistant news:*:8:8::0:0:News' login:/:/nonexistant guest:*:32766:31::0:0:Guest login:/:/nonexistant nobody:*:32767:32767::0:0:Unprivileged user:/:/nonexistant ftp:*:300:300::0:0:Anonymous FTP login:/usr/ftp:/usr/libexec/ftpd -l ftp-adm:*:301:301::0:0:FTP Admin:/usr/ftp:/nonexistant www:*:302:302::0:0:World Wibe Web:/:/nonexistant www-adm:*:303:302::0:0:World Wibe Web:/:/nonexistant So there's no user listed, no password, nothing. Bye, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 05:42:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA21811 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 05:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gemini.yars.free.net (gemini.yars.free.net [193.233.48.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA21789 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 05:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gray@localhost) by gemini.yars.free.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA19996; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 16:38:36 +0300 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 16:38:35 +0300 (MSK) From: Serge Bezzubov To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: driver for 3Com 3c590 adapter doesn't work Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Did anyone get the driver for 3Com 3c590 adapter to work properly under FreeBSD 2.1.0 Release? The compilation of the kernel with that driver included was successfull, but after rebooting with new kernel I got such message: vx0 <2com 3c590 EtherLink III PCI> rev0 int a irq?? on pci0:8 aui/bnc/utp [*UTP*] address 00:20:af:f4:95:12 Warning! Defective early revision adapter! int line register not set by bios Did anyone encounter this trouble? Any suggestions are highly appriciated Serge Bezzubov From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 07:30:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA29362 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 07:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.scsn.net (root@ns2.scsn.net [206.25.246.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29351 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 07:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.25.246.143] (cola143.scsn.net [206.25.246.143]) by ns2.scsn.net (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA27328 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:29:49 -0500 X-Sender: suk@scsn.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:37:41 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: suk@pobox.com (Peter Kwangjun Suk) Subject: Installation problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The Installation program doesn't recognize my cdrom! (even after I boot from cdrom) (Please excuse me if my information is irrelevant. I am a longtime Unix user, but know nothing about PC hardware.) I have a AM486dx100 with IDE bus. At Windows95 boot time, the messages displayed about the cdrom are: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CD-ROM Device Driver Version 4.11 Copyright (C) Creative Technology Ltd, and Copyright (C) Matsuchita-Kotobuki Electronics Industries, Ltd. 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993. All rights reserved. Drive Name = MSCD000 Supporting the following units: unit 0 id 1 MATSUSHITA CD-ROM CR-563-x 1.02 1 CD-ROM drives(s) connected CD-ROM device driver installed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The CD-ROM is connected to a soundblaster card. The CD-ROM gets installed as drive E: I can go into MSDOS from Windows95, and run view.exe on drive E:, which lets me choose the install.bat. However when it comes time to choose the installation media, a message pops up saying that no cdroms are installed. The same with booting off the floppy. Can I do something with booting using -c option so that my cdrom gets recognized? Thanks. --PKS There's neither heaven nor hell -- Save that we grant ourselves. There's neither fairness nor justice -- Save what we grant each other. Peter Kwangjun Suk -- suk@pobox.com -- Musician, CSCI Graduate Student [keyservers or finger suk@pobox.com for PGP public key] From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 07:34:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA29769 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 07:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.95.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29754 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 07:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from robert@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id KAA05952; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:34:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:34:26 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installation of encrypted telnet post 2.1.0 installtime Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I installed 2.1.0 a whiles back, and am now interested in installing the encrypted telnet client/server -- is there an easy way I can do this without making a mess of my existing configuration? I browsed the sysinstall menus for a bit, and leaving aside going ito custom configuration, I didn't see a place to pull it in (as a package or otherwise.) I browsed the freebsd ftp site and found the des.aa and kerberos stuff, but no notes on how to install it or how to deal with using only encrypted telnet (I don't need kerberos, etc.) Thanks in advance, Robert Watson From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 08:57:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA03954 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 08:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03949 Sat, 6 Jan 1996 08:57:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601061657.IAA03949@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Neil Bradley cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble with 2940/7870 SCSI In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jan 1996 02:42:17." <199601061047.CAA01143@synthcom.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 08:57:06 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I've just installed FreeBSD 2.1.0 off the CDROM on my Pentium 100 machine, and >intermittently I get timeouts on the on-board SCSI adapter (based on the >Adaptec 7870). It issues a reset to the controller, the drive light goes off >and it never comes back. Upgrade to 2.1-STABLE. There was just a very large aic7xxx driver update that largely cures this problem. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 09:01:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA04113 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 09:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04108 Sat, 6 Jan 1996 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601061701.JAA04108@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Neil Bradley cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2940/7870 SCSI problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jan 1996 02:52:36." <199601061057.CAA01155@synthcom.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 09:01:15 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On bootup, I get "Can't read Serial EEPROM, using BIOS settings". This is >because the 7870 on the motherboard stores the data in extended CMOS instead o >f >on the onboard Serial EEPROM. I need the output of a "boot -v" from you (enter -v at the boot prompt). With that information, I can probably support the extended CMOS data. >Putting the 2940 card in with the on-board controller causes a panic at bootup >(the driver apparently doesn't like multiple 2940 cards in the same >machine). What was the panic? It wasn't complaining about the lack of unit numbers was it? If so, simply add another ahc entry in your kernel config file. >-->Neil -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 09:06:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA04279 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 09:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from zork.tiac.net (zork.tiac.net [199.0.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04273 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from momcat.swaa.com (tarbet.tiac.net [199.3.140.106]) by zork.tiac.net (8.6.9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id MAA08519; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:06:11 -0500 Message-ID: Priority: Normal To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Margaret Tarbet Subject: update on 2.1 install problem Date: Sat, 06 Jan 96 12:09:37 EST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello all... Recently i wrote of the difficulty i had in installing 2.1 on my dev machine. I thought y'all might like an update. I still haven't actually looked to see what was broken about my first attempt to install, but i fixed it in a practical way: i specifed the fbsd boot manager instead of the vanilla boot block. I forgot to de-install System Commander and restore the dos boot block before doing the fbsd install and when i realised my oversight, midway through, i thought that i'd have some fixing up to do later, as well as a kludgey boot process if indeed it worked at all. But, interestingly enough, that didn't prove to be the case: it did work, and not only did syscmdr adopt the fbsd block without any extra intervention on my part, there's no two-stage selection involved...fbsd boot manager doesn't appear to be there at all! So evidently my mental model of how syscmdr works needs to be adjusted at least, and i need to report that install bug. So, anyhow, if anyone else is planning to use a third-party boot manager, try specifying the fbsd boot manager anyway when you install fbsd. Counter-intuitive, but it worked for me. Thanks to those who responded with suggestions, it was a quite a surprise(!) to find out that questions@freebsd is an alias for everyone@everywhere :-) regards, =margaret From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 09:29:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA05503 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 09:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05498 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 09:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from urcf@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA24971 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:29:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:29:05 -0500 From: "Rodney C. Forbes" Message-Id: <199601061729.MAA24971@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: a couple questions regarding a CDROM changer. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I installed a Nakamichi 7 disk CD-ROM changer last night to my FreeBSD-2.1.0-RELEASE system. I had to add the following two blocks to scsiconf.c. Maybe some kind soul would commit them so that any future owners of this device won't have to figure it out.. /* Nakamichi 7 disk CD-ROM changer */ { T_READONLY, T_REMOV, "NRC", "MBR-7" ,"*", "cd", SC_MORE_LUS }, /* Nakamichi 7 disk CD-ROM changer */ { T_READONLY, T_REMOV, "NRC", "MBR-7" ,"any", "cd", SC_MORE_LUS }, Now for my questions... 1. Why wasn't this the other way around? I mean wouldn't it make more sense to keep a list of devices that misbehaved. 2. Do I need to change anything else in the kernel? I mean like a timeout value or something. Here's what is happening: I run a script after rc.local to probe for any available CD-ROM's in known CD-ROM devices and mount them. I booted with two CD-ROM's in the changer (at cd0 and cd1) and one in mcd0. The script should have found them all, but only mounted the one's at cd0 and mcd0. I ran the script again, and it found the one at cd1. My thought was that maybe it took too long to change trays. Any suggestions. 3. How can I read the CD-ROM's label? When mounted under DOS, all drives (including CD-ROM's) have labels. For instance, the FreeBSD-2.1.0 beta CD when mounted under dos says something like "FREEBSD-2.1.0". How can I get this info? -- _ /| \'o.O' urcf@fang.cs.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) =(___)= http://fang.cs.sunyit.edu/~urcf/index.html U Be free and open and breezy! Enjoy! Things won't get any better so get used to it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 09:38:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA06064 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 09:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06059 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 09:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.6.10/ISnet/14-10-91); Sat, 6 Jan 1996 17:38:40 GMT Received: from hlunkur.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.11/ISnet/12-09-94); Sat, 6 Jan 1996 17:00:30 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 16:56:58 +0000 () From: "Gestur A. Grjetarsson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: admin@islandia.is Subject: users - groups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, My system here has exceeded the 150 registered users with account. There is one problem I seem to be facing, and it's conserning max. users in one group, there seems to be, after I've added approx 150 users to the user group, after 150 counts, the group seems to be "full" Is this some default in FreeBSD to allow only max 150 users in one group, or can I configure my system to allow more users, when I started to adduser to my system, I made new group, in /etc/group ,, the line for that group is: user:*:40: I made this group manually, just edited /etc/group and added the group with this group id, as I started to adduser,, I found out that users in this group have no access to superuser, cannot use "su" Is there anyone who has some info on the group, is there any way for me to allow group to register more than 150 max users, without having to add new group for each 150 user count ?? Thanks in advance,, Med kvedju Sincerely -------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson gestur@islandia.is kerfisstjori islandia.is sysadmin islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/~gestur http://www.islandia.is/misc/skvopn There are only three kind of people in the world ! Those who know how to count, and those who don't ! ================================================== Programmers never die they just GOSUB without RETURN From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 10:22:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA07194 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vianet.com.mx ([200.23.228.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA07189 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:22:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.vianet.com.mx (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00268; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:24:11 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:24:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199601061824.MAA00268@mail.vianet.com.mx> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: Carlos Mercado From: cmercado@campus.gda.itesm.mx Subject: Information!! & Help&!! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a server with freebsd and I try to use a dialup, but the comunication was stopped when I access the password. I see my Login prompt and the password prompt, but when I try to give the password the comunication STOP!.. Thank for your help.. Carlos Mercado. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 10:43:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA09242 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09237 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id NAA29295 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id NAA02289; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:43:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:43:07 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: NEC CDR-210 cdrom Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I finally got thru to NEC (after 2 weeks of trying), but they told me that my NEC CDR-210 cdrom (which I was given for Xmas, from a friend) is a EOM model, and they don't give out any info on it; either get it from the guy you got it from, or throw it away and buy a new one! I only need to know about the 6 jumper block on the pack, and since I know then first three are the SCSI address, I don't even need them. I just need to know about positions 4-6. The labeling on the drive calls these 'normally off', but this one has #6 on, so I want to know what they are before I connect it to my Adaptec 2842 controller. If anyone has any kinda pointer to where this info might be located, I'd really appreciate a pointer, even a half remembered one. ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 10:51:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA09543 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09522 Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA12824 ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:50:59 -0800 Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id MAA04091; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:47:17 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199601061847.MAA04091@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:47:16 -0600 (CST) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, mbarkah@hemi.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601061330.OAA21275@strider.ibenet.it> from "Piero Serini" at Jan 6, 96 02:30:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Quoting from Joe Greco (Mon Jan 1 17:06:58 1996): > > 3. Copy the new pwd.db and group files into ~ftp/etc, and make them both > > mode 0440. Change owner to "root.daemon". > > 4. Copy /bin/ls into ~ftp/bin. Change owner to "root.daemon", and change > > the mode to 2111... > > > > Now nobody can access your pwd.db or group files, but ls can, because it is > > a member of the appropriate group... > > > > I know this may seem overly paranoid to people, but you never know what > > tricks someone might use to gain access to your system, and the lower your > > profile, the safer you may be... > > I simply edit the master.passwd I use to generate spwd.db and pwd.db, > I lock out all the accounts I leave in, compile the db and no 's' bit > is needed. My master.passwd looks like: > > root:*:0:0::0:0:System Administrator:/:/nonexistant > daemon:*:1:1::0:0:System deamons:/:/nonexistant > bin:*:3:7::0:0:Binaries pseudo-user:/:/nonexistant > games:*:7:13::0:0:Games pseudo-user:/:/nonexistant > news:*:8:8::0:0:News' login:/:/nonexistant > guest:*:32766:31::0:0:Guest login:/:/nonexistant > nobody:*:32767:32767::0:0:Unprivileged user:/:/nonexistant > ftp:*:300:300::0:0:Anonymous FTP login:/usr/ftp:/usr/libexec/ftpd -l > ftp-adm:*:301:301::0:0:FTP Admin:/usr/ftp:/nonexistant > www:*:302:302::0:0:World Wibe Web:/:/nonexistant > www-adm:*:303:302::0:0:World Wibe Web:/:/nonexistant > > So there's no user listed, no password, nothing. You've missed the point. :-( 1) I can download your pwd.db and gain some minor bits of useful information (mostly the user-ID used for ftp, ftp-adm, www, and www-adm, but potentially other information like the fact that you appear to be using "/usr/libexec/ftpd -l" for the shell and your ftp area is "/usr/ftp"). This might be useful to me if I discovered that you had a configuration error of some sort at your site. Think: "what if you had inadvertently exported /usr/ftp" for NFS access, even just locally, and I was able to exploit that somehow (i.e. inject bogus NFS packets). It has happened to people in the past. It may simply allow somebody to wreak havoc with your site, but if you don't even have any idea what uid number to use, it becomes more complicated. 2) I like to put my archive-maintainer's user names in in the passwd file. If I have a protected passwd file, I do not need to worry about picking and choosing who I add to the file. I add them ALL. It is very handy to just not have to worry about editing files, creating special versions of pwd.db, and all sorts of other bull. Protect the file and it becomes much less of a concern, and easy to maintain too. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 11:48:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA12119 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 11:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from slip-1.slip.net (slip-1.slip.net [204.160.88.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12072 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 11:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from c05.slip.net (chi-pm4-5.freeppp.com [198.70.174.199]) by slip-1.slip.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA19418; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 11:47:48 -0800 Message-ID: <30EEEE4C.3FA8@gw2kbbs.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 13:49:00 -0800 From: Funkyman Organization: Gateway 2000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: ggrant@gw2kbbs.com Subject: mouse in X-Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How do I set these up? I've been driving myself crazy trying to find a FAQ or README to set up a serial mouse and also ps2 mouse. I can't find a device name for a serial mouse anywhere, and when I rebuilt my kernel for ps2 mouse support, the pointer insists on jumping up and to the left. dragging the mouse REALLY fast down and right moves it, but then it will jump all the way up and then jerk to the left in 1 1/2" increments. It's making me crazy. Tyson boelltys@gw2k.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 12:03:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA12936 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line16.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.148]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12919 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00250; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:03:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:03:28 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Peter Kwangjun Suk cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installation problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, Peter Kwangjun Suk wrote: > The CD-ROM is connected to a soundblaster card. > The CD-ROM gets installed as drive E: Must be a Matsushita drive. > Can I do something with booting using -c option so that my cdrom gets > recognized? Yes. Put in the proper IRQ and base address information for your Soundblaster for device `mcd0', the Matsushita driver. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 12:11:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13514 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au (root@uniwa.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13489 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:11:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from tartarus.uwa.edu.au (tartarus.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.3]) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA20285 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 04:11:15 +0800 Received: from tiger.uwa.edu.au ([203.14.175.182]) by tartarus.uwa.edu.au (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29170 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 04:11:07 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <30EED7DC.38B3@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 04:13:16 +0800 From: Adrian Khoo X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installation of FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Im stuck trying to get XF86312 to work.... could someone show me how to? Ive installed FreeBSD 2.1 with the XF86312 options..... Thanks in advance Adrian JQ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 12:40:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA14921 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14904 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA03993; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 21:40:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA01242; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 08:47:07 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601060747.IAA01242@mordillo> Subject: Re: Netboot (fwd) To: branson@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (Branson Matheson) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 08:47:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601051529.KAA25373@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> from "Branson Matheson" at Jan 5, 96 10:29:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hasn't Branson Matheson said ? ... > > This was the problem.. Thanks for all the help with that particular > problem... now on to the next one ;-) > > I have a 486/66 with a 3com card installed. There was a problem with > the shared memory being disabled. The dos software that is being used > needs it turned off.. and FreeBSD wants it on.. this is a problem that > i have not figured out how to route around. Meanwhile I have been > sucessful in getting the machines to boot correctly and come right up. > but the 8meg machines crash right as xdm starts :-(. I have plenty of > swap but it seems to have a problem right when you fill the memory up. > Swapinfo on the machine shows that it has plenty of room available. > Any ideas? > > Somthing else that I am going to be working on is creating an Xkernel > style configuration for Low memory machines. If anyone else is > interested in this let me know. > i'm currently working on that - send me a mail if you are interested t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 12:53:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA15817 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15811 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16143; Sat, 6 Jan 96 14:53:01 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA08718; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:53:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:53:00 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601062053.AA08718@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: cmercado@campus.gda.itesm.mx Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601061824.MAA00268@mail.vianet.com.mx> (cmercado@campus.gda.itesm.mx) Subject: Re: Information!! & Help&!! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Carlos" == cmercado writes: Carlos> I see my Login prompt and the password prompt, but when I Carlos> try to give the password the comunication STOP!.. The password won't appear on the screen to prevent anyone else in the room from seeing your password. Just type it normally and then press Return or Enter. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA The Enterprise visits the Klingon Home World on a bright, sunny, day -- One of 46 things that never happen on Star Trek From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 13:29:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA19088 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from uahis1.uah.edu (uahis1.uah.edu [146.229.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA19083 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:29:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Sat, 6 Jan 96 15:26:57 CST Received: from unsun.eb.uah.edu.uah.edu by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23912; Sat, 6 Jan 96 15:28:44 CST Date: Sat, 6 Jan 96 15:28:44 CST From: licau@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Luis Verissimo) Message-Id: <9601062128.AA23912@ebs330> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe questions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk subscribe questions From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 13:52:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA20792 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20782 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id NAA28092; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05924; Sat, 6 Jan 96 13:50:59 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601062150.AA05924@tera.com> Subject: Re: NEC CDR-210 cdrom To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:50:58 -0800 (PST) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jan 6, 96 01:43:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Chuck Robey: > > I finally got thru to NEC (after 2 weeks of trying), but they told me > that my NEC CDR-210 cdrom (which I was given for Xmas, from a friend) is > a EOM model, and they don't give out any info on it; either get it from > the guy you got it from, or throw it away and buy a new one! > Hmm. This is probably a minor consideration overall, but is looks like NEC is yet another corporation that belongs on the sh--er, excrement-list. So far, my experience has been that Fujitsu Top notch Corporate Systems Center (SCSI house) Top notch U.S. Robotics Good Laitron Computer Worst. Anybody besides me interested in keeping such a list? ....Just a thought. gary kline > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 14:11:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22033 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22025 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id OAA29086; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06446; Sat, 6 Jan 96 14:10:12 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601062210.AA06446@tera.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:10:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: 72110.765@compuserve.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 6, 96 00:28:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to Doug White: > > On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > [[ ... ]] > Odd. I've had the opposite experience. The only thing I've had trouble > with is TeX (which I'm now recompiling, and crossing my fingers). > Everything else has been `make', `su', `make install', `rehash' and run. > > > I've been porting for more years than I care to > > admit, and I'll finish up with the same environment > > as is on my old 386.... but am I doing something > > stupid? Is there some pre-config magic for FreeBSD > > hidden away somewhere?? Better to ask this now > > than wait until I've re-re-re-invented the wheel! > > I haven't a clue. You must have just picked the wrong ports, I guess :) > > Update: with elm, I selected the wrong default from the ./Configuration script. (Translation: read the code if you don't want to plow thru billions and billions of configurations Q's.) Hoping that other ports will be easier... gary kline > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 14:15:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22311 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from koala.scott.net (root@koala.scott.net [204.181.147.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22306 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from jason.scott.net (dialup02.scott.net [205.241.3.2]) by koala.scott.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10745 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 16:15:20 -0600 Message-ID: <30EEF462.41C67EA6@scott.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 16:14:58 -0600 From: Jason Gilbert X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Java Developers Kit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone had any success or attempted to get the linux port of the Java Developers Kit working under FreeBSD? Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 14:53:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA25539 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA25532 Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:53:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:53:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199601062253.OAA25532@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jason@scott.net Subject: Re: Java Developers Kit Cc: questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Has anyone had any success or attempted to get the linux port of the > Java Developers Kit working under FreeBSD? Randy Chapman is not giving out diffs for his Linux port of the JDK. There are at least two independent efforts I know of to port JDK to BSD, both of which have made substantial progress. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 15:23:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA27740 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 15:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.scsn.net (root@ns2.scsn.net [206.25.246.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA27733 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 15:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.25.246.143] (cola147.scsn.net [206.25.246.147]) by ns2.scsn.net (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA05674 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 18:22:08 -0500 X-Sender: suk@scsn.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 18:29:53 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: suk@pobox.com (Peter Kwangjun Suk) Subject: IRQ question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a Matsushita CD-ROM attached to a soundblaster card, and the installation software on the Walnut-Creek CD-ROM won't recognize the CD-ROM (though it boots just fine.) I am told that I can use -c flag when booting to change the configuration so that the CD-ROM will be recognized. How do I find the proper IRQ and base address information for my Soundblaster for device `mcd0', the Matsushita driver? Thanks. --PKS There's neither heaven nor hell -- Save that we grant ourselves. There's neither fairness nor justice -- Save what we grant each other. Peter Kwangjun Suk -- suk@pobox.com -- Musician, CSCI Graduate Student [keyservers or finger suk@pobox.com for PGP public key] From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 16:00:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA29997 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 16:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA29991 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 16:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZP1XZZMIO8WX47Y@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Jan 1996 16:00:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 16:00:04 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: WHOA! - What did I do now?? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZP1Y01ASY8WX47Y@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just rebooted back into FreeBSD after using another operating system. It booted fine, detecting all devices and going through the normal seequence where the text is white. Then when it normally starts the various daemons, clears out /tmp directory, etc (when the text is grey) instead of the normal sequence, it scrolled a lot of text saying something not found, expecting ")" and does that for about 15-20 lines, then goes to the login prompt. But, this is the login prompt I get: FreeBSD (Amnesiac) 2.1.0-RELEASE .. login: Did I delete one of the system start up files from the /etc directory? The equivalent of inittab maybe? Thanks John PS - in case (Amnesiac) is NOT supposed to be there in these cases, that is not my host name. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 16:20:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA01396 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 16:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from uahis1.uah.edu (uahis1.uah.edu [146.229.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01390 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 16:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Sat, 6 Jan 96 18:17:38 CST Received: from unsun.eb.uah.edu.uah.edu by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24844; Sat, 6 Jan 96 18:19:26 CST Received: from unsun (localhost) by unsun.eb.uah.edu.uah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01055; Sat, 6 Jan 96 18:19:26 CST Message-Id: <9601070019.AA01055@unsun.eb.uah.edu.uah.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 96 18:19:29 -0600 From: Luis Verissimo X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing 2.1 over NFS X-Url: http://www.FreeBSD.org/support.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 using NFS. I have a 486/33 with a SMC Elite Ultra ethernet card at 0x300 and IRQ 10. I get the ed1: device timeout NFS Portmap: RPC : Portmapper failure - RPC: Unable to send I have changed the IRQ to IRQ 5 and I still get the same error. All the help I can get would be welcome. Thank you in advance for your help. Luis -- \\|// O-O ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~~~~(_)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ LUIS VERISSIMO ~ ~ Univ. Alabama Huntsville ~ ~ e-mail: Engineering Bldg. Rm 216-a (205) 895-6509 ~ ~ licau@ebs330.eb.uah.edu Huntsville, AL 35899 (205) 895-6928 ~ ~ ~ ~ web: http://eb-p5.eb.uah.edu/student/licau/index.html (205) 830-2323 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | | -- -- ooO Ooo VISIT MY HOME PAGE From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 20:53:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA14642 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 20:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (wedge.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14633 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 20:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id PAA04219; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 15:53:19 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 15:53:19 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: xcd 1.3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering if anyone had done a port of xcd-1.3 to 2.1.0-RELEASE. If not I may have a go myself... thanks, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 21:36:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA16868 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 21:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from trilogy.usa.com ([206.101.106.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16862 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 21:36:35 -0800 (PST) From: BOELLTYS@gw2k.com Received: by trilogy.usa.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #25) id m0t1a36df; Tue, 13 Aug 29 15:24 EST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 13:44 X-date-posted: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 13:51:50 -0500 To: QUESTIONS@FREEBSD.ORG.MHS@QUESTION.PD-NGM.USA.COM Reply-to: BOELLTYS@gw2k.com Subject: mice clarification on previous post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Message Body Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Form: Memo Text: (20 lines follow) How do you set up a serial mouse in 4.4 FreeBSD (v 2.0.5 from Walnut creek)? I have been unable to find a device name for a serial mouse so figure it's simple and one of those things that is just taken for granted. I have RTFM, and searched man pages and FAQ's for the answer, and am going crazy Also, I recompiled my kernel for ps/2 mouse support, but when I startx, my mouse acts like it is being actively jerked to the upper lh corner of my screen. I can move my mouse really fast to the lower rh corner, but when I release it, it goes immediately to the top, and then jumps to the left in 1 1/2" increments until it reaches the upper lh corner again. What am I doing wrong? (My XF86Config refers to mouse as /dev/mouse, and I created a symbolic link to /dev/psm0) Thanks Tyson Boellstorff Use Proportional Font: true From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 21:59:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA17873 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 21:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA17867 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 21:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA11105 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:01:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:01:34 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199601070601.XAA11105@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Everything messed up.. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Here's the situation: I have a 850MG Western Digital drive, and a 340 MG drive. The 850 has the Western Digital drive overlay software installed. The 850 also has Win95 installed. The 850 is C: and the 340 is d: in dos. I installed FreeBSD on the 340. Now when I boot the computer, the drive overlay software says it wants a boot disk. What would I need to do to fix this? BLair From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 22:37:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA19352 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 22:37:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19347 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 22:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA19861; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:10:45 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601070640.RAA19861@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Finding interrupts To: craigs@venus.os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:10:44 +1030 (CST) Cc: wollman@lcs.mit.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Craig Shrimpton" at Jan 5, 96 04:14:48 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Craig Shrimpton stands accused of saying: > Maybe I didn't make my question clear. If I do cat /proc/interrupts on a > Linux box I'll get the following: > > 0: 23226271 timer > 1: 26330 keyboard > 2: 0 + cascade > 3: 3312542 + serial > 4: 554 + serial > 10: 312677 3c509 > 11: 53650 + BusLogic 44xC > 13: 1 math error > 14: 81460 + ide0 Yetch; that sort of code doesn't belong in the kernel. Look at 'systat' and friends for the FreeBSD equivalent. > Craig -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 22:55:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA20291 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 22:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol.acs.uwosh.edu (sol.acs.uwosh.edu [141.233.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA20284 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 22:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from europa.acs.uwosh.edu by sol.acs.uwosh.edu; id AA11741; 4.1/42.1.5; Sun, 7 Jan 96 00:54:47 CST Received: by europa.acs.uwosh.edu (4.1) id AA25632; Sun, 7 Jan 96 00:54:43 CST Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 00:54:42 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Misek To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk help From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 23:12:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA20870 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA20850 Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.6.10/ISnet/14-10-91); Sun, 7 Jan 1996 07:11:52 GMT Received: from smarties.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.11/ISnet/12-09-94); Sun, 7 Jan 1996 07:06:57 GMT Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 07:06:57 GMT Message-Id: <199601070706.HAA18560@hummer.islandia.is> X-Sender: gestur@islandia.is X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: gestur@islandia.is (Gestur A. Grjetarsson) From: gestur@islandia.is (Gestur A. Grjetarsson) Subject: Re: prevent paralell modem connection Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, admin@islandia.is Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, > > I'd like to ask you, > > Could users on FreeBSD system hold two or more modem connections at > same time, parallel logged on ? Sure. > If so, is there a way to prevent people to be able to get connection on > the system from two or more places at one time, like if users share their > accounts, taking two modems and only paying for one account ? Sure. Stick a "cron" job in to count the number of times that a user is on a tty line. Think about something like: #! /bin/sh - PATH=/bin:/usr/bin; export PATH who | grep " ttyd" | sort | uniq -c | ( while read count user; do if [ ${count} -gt 1 ]; then kill -HUP `ps agxu | grep "^${user} " | awk '{print $2}'` fi done ) This is of course very simplistic but could be effective if run out of cron, say, every 5 minutes (excuse any errors, I have NOT tested it, you shouldn't run it unless you understand what it is doing and can fix my bugs)... This is simpler than the network/X11 pty case, of course.. ;-) > My system has limited amount of modems attached, so it would be of good > appreaciation if I could manage to prevent parallel modem connections for > one user. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 Međ kveđju, Sincerely, ----------------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson kerfisstjóri islandia.is sysadmin islandia.is Islandia, Grensásvegur 7, 2h.t.h., 108 Reykjavik sími 5884020, modem 5884120, fax 5884014 http://www.islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/english.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- Programmers never die, they just GOSUB without RETURN ! From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 23:15:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA21004 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA20998 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA19930; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:48:50 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601070718.RAA19930@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: NEC CDR-210 cdrom To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:48:50 +1030 (CST) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jan 6, 96 01:43:07 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey stands accused of saying: > I only need to know about the 6 jumper block on the pack, and since I > know then first three are the SCSI address, I don't even need them. I > just need to know about positions 4-6. The labeling on the drive calls > these 'normally off', but this one has #6 on, so I want to know what they > are before I connect it to my Adaptec 2842 controller. Geez, why not just try it? There are only 8 combinations, and I can guarantee that none of them are the "electrocute user" combination. Where's your initiative? 8) > Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 23:17:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA21240 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA21235 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA19943; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:51:21 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601070721.RAA19943@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Installation problem To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:51:20 +1030 (CST) Cc: suk@pobox.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 6, 96 12:03:28 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White stands accused of saying: > > Can I do something with booting using -c option so that my cdrom gets > > recognized? > > Yes. Put in the proper IRQ and base address information for your > Soundblaster for device `mcd0', the Matsushita driver. That should obviously be "matcd0", as mcd0 is the Mitsumi driver 8) > Doug White | University of Oregon -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 23:35:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA22045 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA22036 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01167; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:35:43 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:35:43 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Blair Schmittel cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Everything messed up.. In-Reply-To: <199601070601.XAA11105@strech.cyber-naut.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, Blair Schmittel wrote: > > Hello. > > Here's the situation: I have a 850MG Western Digital drive, and a 340 MG drive. The 850 has the Western Digital drive overlay software installed. The 850 also has Win95 installed. The 850 is C: and the 340 is d: in dos. I installed FreeBSD on the 340. Now when I boot the computer, the drive overlay software says it wants a boot disk. > > What would I need to do to fix this? > > BLair You need to use FDISK to set one of your partitions as `active'. Sometimes this gets set and then lost. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 23:37:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA22302 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA22293 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01178; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:38:23 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:38:23 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Kline cc: 72110.765@compuserve.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 In-Reply-To: <9601062210.AA06446@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > Update: with elm, I selected the wrong default from the > ./Configuration script. (Translation: read the code if > you don't want to plow thru billions and billions of > configurations Q's.) Ah ha. :-) I figured out TeX too; the port is broke. That helps a bunch. Use packages if you can, they are set up, ready to roll, and most likely have been tested. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 6 23:45:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA22892 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA22885 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01210; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:45:39 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:45:38 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Kline cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NEC CDR-210 cdrom In-Reply-To: <9601062150.AA05924@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > > Hmm. This is probably a minor consideration overall, > but is looks like NEC is yet another corporation that > belongs on the sh--er, excrement-list. > > So far, my experience has been that > > Fujitsu Top notch > Corporate Systems Center (SCSI house) Top notch > U.S. Robotics Good > > > Laitron Computer Worst. Add BusLogic to that list. They lost our favor after Jordan had a bad run-in with their Tech Support, if I remember correctly. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major