From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 00:12:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA01887 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA01875 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from uahis1.uah.edu (uahis1.uah.edu [146.229.1.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA06293 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:12:47 -0800 Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Sun, 28 Jan 96 03:09:50 CST Received: by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01936; Sun, 28 Jan 96 02:11:32 CST Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 02:11:31 -0600 (CST) From: Luis Verissimo Subject: Re: computer won't boot from hard drive after install of freeBSD 2.1 To: Christopher Wilkins Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601280633.AA05752@pulm1.accessone.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I had a similiar problem with one of my machines. From searching the freebsd-questions mailing list archives I found that FreeBSD was not recognizing the exact geometry of my hard disk. I took the cheap way out and dedicated the entire disk to FreeBSD using the A option of FreeBSD 2.1. Luis \\|// O-O ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~~~~(_)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ LUIS VERISSIMO ~ ~ Univ. Alabama Huntsville ~ ~ e-mail: Engineering Bldg. Rm 216-a (205) 895-6509 ~ ~ licau@ebs330.eb.uah.edu Huntsville, AL 35899 (205) 895-6928 ~ ~ ~ ~ web: http://eb-p5.eb.uah.edu/student/licau/index.html (205) 830-2323 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | | -- -- ooO Ooo VISIT MY HOME PAGE On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Christopher Wilkins wrote: > I just completed what seemed like a successful novice install of freeBSD 2.1 > release from CD-ROM except for one small problem. > > I have a P5-90 with 24 MB of RAM and windows 95. I have three hard drives: a > Quantum 540 MB is the C drive, and two WD 1.2 GB drives, D and E. I have > made a 512 MB dos partition on E and am using the rest of E as my space for > freeBSD. > When I re-start the computer now, the computer finds the keyboard and hard > drives just fine, but then will not proceed with loading the OS unless it is > from floppy. If there is no floppy, it just sits there with the floppy drive > light on. Perhaps the boot manager did not get loaded properly? Any ideas, > suggestions, solutions? I am at a loss. Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Chris > zing@pacificws.com > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 00:21:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA02967 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nike.efn.org (garcia.efn.org [198.68.17.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02956 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:21:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gurney_j@localhost) by nike.efn.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA09513; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:21:34 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:21:33 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Keith Leonard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help - I'm locked out and don't know how to get in!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Keith Leonard wrote: > Anyone, > I had just changed my shell (to bash) which I assumed (yes I know) was > there because I had added it during the initial installation. My son > interrupted me, a movie caught my eye, an hour or so latter BSD had > autologged me out. Needless to say bash wasn't were it was suppose to be > in /usr/bin ( because I hadn't had time to check it before I was logged > out). Now when I try to log in as root with the right password BSD tells > me that bash isn't in /usr/bin and loops me back to the login prompt. I > tried booting single user mode but that only allows me to check the > filesystem and look around (ro), so I can't change anything. > > No, I don't have a fixit disk or emergency boot disk (bad boy, get in the > corner and don't come out until you repent). I swear if somebody can get > me back in I'll correct the oversite immediately and never let this happen > again. If you haven't guessed - I new to FreeBSD. ok... reboot... when you get the the boot: prompt... type in -s... this will drop you into single user mode... when prompted for the shell just hit enter... then run "mount -u -o rw /"... and then a "mount -a"... then do a vipw and change it back... you can do a "cat /etc/shells" to find were the shells are located... hope this helps... TTYL... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org Modem/FAX: (503) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) GCS/M/Sd#h+s+!gau-a--w++++vC+++++UF++++P---E---N++W---M--V--Y+t+5++G+b+D++ B----eu+h++!f++n---- CD5OUF++++.L-------2W.DM----N.9---NET2SP3s.2,4s.,4d.2,6--- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 00:33:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA04198 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-09.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA04193 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA00370; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:33:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:33:10 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: Keith Leonard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help - I'm locked out and don't know how to get in!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Keith Leonard wrote: > out). Now when I try to log in as root with the right password BSD tells > me that bash isn't in /usr/bin and loops me back to the login prompt. I > tried booting single user mode but that only allows me to check the > filesystem and look around (ro), so I can't change anything. Boot single-user, and type "mount /". This will remount it read/write. Then run vi or whatever on /etc/passwd and change it. Bash (at least the packages/ports version) installs into /usr/local/bin/bash. (note in order to access vi, other editors, etc, you MAY have to mount /usr, if you installed it as a separate partition, so just type "mount /usr"). Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 01:36:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA09306 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mr-p.protocorp.com (d1.leonardo.net [198.147.97.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA09299 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from caern.leonardo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mr-p.protocorp.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA00228 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:36:09 GMT Message-Id: <199601280136.BAA00228@mr-p.protocorp.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux Netscape? Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:36:05 +0000 From: "Mike O'Brien" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Most of the FreeBSD Core Team was in attendance at the FreeBSD BOF at the Usenix conference just concluded. I learned from them at that BOF that, supposedly, FreeBSD 2.1 runs Linux programs well enough to support the Linux version of Netscape, including Java applets. I promptly sucked over the Linux version of Netscape20b6, only to have it dump core promptly upon startup. BSDI Netscape20b4 runs just fine, though. Anybody have any hints? Mike O'Brien From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 03:02:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA18062 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 03:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA18055 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 03:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA29466 ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 03:02:02 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: "Mike O'Brien" cc: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Palmer Subject: Re: Linux Netscape? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:36:05 GMT." <199601280136.BAA00228@mr-p.protocorp.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 03:02:01 -0800 Message-ID: <29464.822826921@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Mike O'Brien" wrote in message ID <199601280136.BAA00228@mr-p.protocorp.com>: > I promptly sucked over the Linux version of Netscape20b6, only to > have it dump core promptly upon startup. BSDI Netscape20b4 runs just > fine, though. Err. Did you recompile your kernel with ``options COMPAT_LINUX'' and load the linux emulator LKM? Do you have the linux libraries? We said that we could run the binaries, but we didn't state that the GENERIC kernel could... Yours Gary (who was there :-) ) P.S. And I'm just reading my news with Linux 2.0b6 now :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 04:12:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA25192 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu (uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu [128.95.205.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA25187 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from myosin.ee.washington.edu (myosin.ee.washington.edu [128.95.205.35]) by uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id EAA13654; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:12:32 -0800 (PST) From: ChingPing Chou Received: (from ccp@localhost) by myosin.ee.washington.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id EAA24373; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:12:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:12:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601281212.EAA24373@myosin.ee.washington.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Problems to configure IDE cdrom and sound card drivers. X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I tried to reconfig my kernel to include IDE cdrom and sound card drivers. So I edited MYKERNEL and recompile it followed the instructions described in the /usr/share/doc/FAQ/*.html and handbook.*.html. For the sound card: After I reboot the system, it seemed to detect it and showed "sb0 at 0x220 irq 9 drq 1 on isa" "sb0: " However, after booting, I could not find it by running 'lsdev'. When I did "sh MAKEDEV sb0", it responded "sb0 - no such device name". For the IDE controller: I have to mention that I ahve only a SCSI hard drive, and the IDE stuff never worked before. My IDE is an onboard EIDE. I copy the port address and irq# from Windows95's device manager. When I reboot the system, it stucked about 30 second before and after probing IDE controller and only showed "wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa" No cdrom was probed at all. 'lsdev' shows "wdc0 Unknown ST506/ESDI/IDE disk controller" Another thing I have to mention is that my onboard EIDE is on PCI bus, but if I change "at isa?" to "at pci?" in MYKERNEL, the linking would be failed with showing something like "xxx_wdc_xxx symble not found refered in text". Can anyone tell me what do I miss here? Thanks in advance. Ching-Ping From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 04:28:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA26569 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:28:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA26562 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA16783 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:31:10 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601281231.EAA16783@MediaCity.com> Subject: troubles with tcl/tk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 04:31:09 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I wrote a simple tcl/tk program called xtmplay. When I run it I keep getting brian@easysc>./xtmplay application-specific initialization failed: wrong version of Tk loaded (4.0): ne ed 3.4 or later % My compile/link looks like: cc -g -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -o xtmplay xtmplay.c -L/usr/loca l/lib -ltk40 -ltcl74 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm I just installed tk-4.0.2 & tcl-7.4 from FreeBSD-current/packages tk.h looks like .... #ifndef _TK #define _TK #define TK_VERSION "4.0" #define TK_MAJOR_VERSION 4 #define TK_MINOR_VERSION 0 ... I got the tkMainApp.c from /usr/local/lib/tk4.0 Where have I gone wrong? -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] How to program in c++: // From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 06:26:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA08222 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 06:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com (dub-img-4.compuserve.com [198.4.9.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA08214 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 06:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id JAA13600; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 09:26:02 -0500 Date: 28 Jan 96 09:18:24 EST From: Adrian Neville <101603.1662@compuserve.com> To: freebsd-questions Subject: Kernal build failed - _hw_float undefined Message-ID: <960128141824_101603.1662_JHP70-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just installed freebsd 2.0.5 off the walnut creek cdrom onto a 75mhz pentium with 16mb memory, 1gb eide disk and panasonic cdrom drive attached to a soundblaster card. I have done an install of everything including sources. I am unable to boot without disabling most of the kernal drivers using boot -c, if i don't do this the monitor seems to loose it vertical hold and i just see scrolling lines. When attempting to build a tuned kernal it gets to near the end then fails with the error loading kernal kern_sysctl.o: undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment *** error code 1 Has anyone seen this before / does anyone know a fix. also when attempting to start X11 (via startx) i get the error "no screens" just at the point you would expect X11 to start, what exactly does "no screens" mean, have i removed to many drivers from the kernal. I have grep'ed thru the FAQ's and will continue looking thru the documentation but if anyone has a quick answer i would be very grateful Thanks in advance. Adrian Adrian Neville 101603,1662@compuserv.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 06:49:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA10845 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 06:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA10838 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 06:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA27228; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 08:49:11 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 08:49:10 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: Keith Leonard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help - I'm locked out and don't know how to get in!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Keith Leonard wrote: > Anyone, > I had just changed my shell (to bash) which I assumed (yes I know) was > there because I had added it during the initial installation. My son > interrupted me, a movie caught my eye, an hour or so latter BSD had > autologged me out. Needless to say bash wasn't were it was suppose to be > in /usr/bin ( because I hadn't had time to check it before I was logged > out). Now when I try to log in as root with the right password BSD tells > me that bash isn't in /usr/bin and loops me back to the login prompt. I > tried booting single user mode but that only allows me to check the > filesystem and look around (ro), so I can't change anything. Get into single user mode and do a mount / mount /usr which will mount your root partition as read-write and same with your user partition. > > No, I don't have a fixit disk or emergency boot disk (bad boy, get in the > corner and don't come out until you repent). I swear if somebody can get > me back in I'll correct the oversite immediately and never let this happen > again. If you haven't guessed - I new to FreeBSD. Then you should be able to change your shell with chpass to another one. BTW, you might need to do a umount /usr before you exit single user mode, as it might try and mount it again and not be able to. > > Keith > keithl@gil.net > Daniel -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 09:43:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA23311 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 09:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tower.nexus.com (andersen@fw42.fastlane.net [206.42.189.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23306 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 09:43:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andersen@localhost) by tower.nexus.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA00160 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:44:51 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:44:51 -0600 From: "Craig G. Andersen" Message-Id: <199601281744.LAA00160@tower.nexus.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Trouble booting FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I guess I am stuck and looking for any ideas. I have been trying to boot FreeBSD 2.1 for a couple of days. What I have done: 1) On the 2.1 CDROM The install.bat and inst_ide.bat both operate the same, which is type out Booting @ 0x100000 text= ... data=... bss=... symbols=... total=... entry point=... and then reset (reboot) 2) The makeflp.bat and atapiflp.bat create floppies that do the following The floppy light comes on for about 2 seconds and then goes away without writing any messages to the console at all. 3) From Linux I have downloaded the older boot floppies 2.0.5 and they do the same as in 2). 4) I have tried to boot these floopies at work in another machine and they work, so I think the media is proper. 5) I have checked my hardware list (below) with your list and I think it should work. 6) Disabled 'cache' memory and it does the same. Other observations: 1) The NetBSD 'boot floppies' did boot. 2) Linux seems to work. Any help would be appreciated. Craig Andersen email: andersen@fastlane.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware List ----------------------------------------------------------------- 486 DX2/50 Dell Dimension/8Mb RAM/ISA Bus ON BOARD Graphics WD90C31 1Mb Graphics Memory Serial #1 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450 Serial #2 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16450 Parallel Port (Not used) ----------------------------------------------------------------- EXTERNAL Modems: Serial #3 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A Cardinal MVP288I (V.34/V.FC) Serial #4 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Sportster 14.4k Mouse: PS/2 auxiliary pointing device SB16 snd2 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 snd6 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 5 snd7 at 0x330 irq 5 drq 0 snd1 at 0x388 drq 0 CDROM SB16 Drive 0 (ID=0): CR-563 (0.75) at 0x230 (type 1) Hard Disks SIIG EIDE Master ISA Dual Channel Controller Channel 1: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 WDC AC31200F, 1222MB w/64KB Cache, LBA, CHS=621/64/63 Channel 2: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 MAXTOR LXT-340A, 321MB w/64KB Cache, CHS=654/16/63 TEAC FD-505 Combo Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is 1.2M FDC 0 is a 8272A 3COM Ethernet 3c509 at 0x300 IRQ 10. ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 10:03:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA24124 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 10:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from jparnas.cybercom.net (jparnas.cybercom.net [205.198.82.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24119 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 10:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cybercom.net (localhost.cybercom.net [127.0.0.1]) by jparnas.cybercom.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA00791 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:02:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199601281802.NAA00791@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol To: questions@freebsd.org X-External-Networks: yes Subject: Sun refugee (BSD-bigot) seeks OS for Pentium Pro system.... Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:02:43 -0500 From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Its been about 5 years since I upgraded to a sparcstation 2. I'm planning to switch to a Dual Processor PC motherboard with one CPU slot (ZIF #8 slot) for expansion. (hopefully the P7 will use the same slot, and if not, by the time that the P7 switches, the P6's should be much faster. I'm planning on getting the ASUS P/E-EP6P7D, probably from netexpress (http://www.tdl.com/~netex/price) and a 200Mhz CPU. I haven't totally decided between freeBSD and BSDI operating systems. I have five questions: 1. Will a MP system work with freebsd with one processor OK, and multiprocessors? Is the MP support planned in the future (or currently supported) and what type (spreading out the processes or, having a multi- threading compiler and kernel) 2. I'm considering BSDI as well. Obviously, I'd be giving up support possibilities from BSDI. How good/bad is their support (do they rush you, or do you get the feeling that they really want to make you feel secure about them doing a good job of doing a good -- do they take responsibility system problems or just give you a clue to work on and how fast is their phone support turn-around? 3. How happy are you with your choice? What are the pros+cons both up front (such as ports) and undeterminable such as support? 4. How do you see the future? Do you think BSDI will do a lot more ports and add new features? 5. Am I correct that Linux is really System V and some BSD stuff is missing? Thanks, Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 10:20:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA24513 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 10:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from cd1.lrz-muenchen.de (cd1.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.13.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24507 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 10:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de by cd1.lrz-muenchen.de; Sun, 28 Jan 96 19:19:54 +0100 Received: by sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22704; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 19:19:53 +0100 Message-Id: <9601281819.AA22704@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 96 15:32:43 MEZ From: a2c01mk@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de (Juergen Dankoweit) Reply-To: <@@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de> (Juergen Dankoweit) To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Trouble with kernel Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I have a great problem with the WD7000 driver. In my computer there is an IDE-Interfce and now the WD7000 Controller. How can I install the new kernel with the WD7000 support, which I generated on my IDE-harddisk and then copied it to DOS-diskette. The problem is that I can't run IDE- and WD7000 controller at the same time and the kernel on the boot disk is not accessable from OS/2 (my favourit). I hope you can help my. Best regards and many many thanks Juergen Dankoweit Am Schmiedberg 10 D-83629 Weyarn (Germany) a2c01mk@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de Call: DG5MKI From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 11:06:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA25888 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (schizo.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25880 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mrcpu@localhost) by schizo.cdsnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA09803; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:06:35 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:06:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen To: "Jacob M. Parnas" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sun refugee (BSD-bigot) seeks OS for Pentium Pro system.... In-Reply-To: <199601281802.NAA00791@jparnas.cybercom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Jacob M. Parnas wrote: > 1. Will a MP system work with freebsd with one processor OK, and > multiprocessors? Is the MP support planned in the future (or currently > supported) and what type (spreading out the processes or, having a multi- > threading compiler and kernel) Yes. FreeBSD doesn't know how to start the second processor, so it runs with just one fine. (At least it did on a dual P120 DEC box). I guess there are some alpha MP patches out there, but I can't say much more than that.) > > 2. I'm considering BSDI as well. Obviously, I'd be giving up support > possibilities from BSDI. How good/bad is their support (do they rush you, > or do you get the feeling that they really want to make you feel secure > about them doing a good job of doing a good -- do they take responsibility > system problems or just give you a clue to work on and how fast is their > phone support turn-around? Their support is real good, although I only use the email support. They're pretty quick at fixing stuff. As far as I know, there is zero MP stuff for BSD/OS, so if that's a priority, BSD/OS won't work for you. > > 3. How happy are you with your choice? What are the pros+cons both up front > (such as ports) and undeterminable such as support? I use both, and see better performance with FreeBSD, I still see the occasional stability problem with FreeBSD. BSD/OS has been a good performaer, and very solid. > > 4. How do you see the future? Do you think BSDI will do a lot more ports > and add new features? Yeah, BSD/OS seems to have gotten after the driver market with the new release. Lots of support for high-speed cards now. > > 5. Am I correct that Linux is really System V and some BSD stuff is missing? Vaguely. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 11:27:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA26587 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.sbq.org.br ([143.106.26.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26558 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sbqadm@localhost) by www.sbq.org.br (8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1/8.6.12/SBQ) id RAA18205; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:27:15 GMT From: Sociedade Brasileira de Quimica/Admin Message-Id: <199601281727.RAA18205@www.sbq.org.br> Subject: SCSI Question To: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:27:15 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello We have 4 servers and I'm having a little problem installing 2.1.0 in some of them: server 1) P100 with 2 (1G/850M) IDE drives, installed without any problems server 2) P100 wiht on board NCR SCSI adaptor, installed without problems but after reboot the message "Missing Operating System". Back to the boot.flp and forcing (W)rite in fdisk made it work server 3) P90 IBM with Adaptec 2942/W and IBM 1G HD, after some fight against the geometry installed fine but, again "Missing Operating System" and I have found no way to make it boot from the HD. I need to use the floppy and boot sd(0,a)/kernel instead server 4) The worst case :-(, this is an old DEC 486Dx/33 server with an Adaptec 1742 controller and two (450M sd0, 1.1G sd1) hard disks. This computer is running FreeBSD since 1.0 and I never had problems installing FreeBSD on it, yesterday I upgraded it from 2.0-pre-2.0.5-snap to 2.1.0 and I got the evil "Missing Operating System" again! I've tried all ways to make it bootable but as server (3) I need to boot using the floppy. What am I doing wrong? We have many IDE FreeBSD PCs here running 2.0.5 and 2.1.0 and I've followed the same installprocedure in all cases, is there any trick I'm missing to make this work ? Is there any way to correct this? Has anything subtle changed ? We can't stop the server (4) and it is running this way, I would like very much to correct the problem without reinstalling it. Romeu From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 11:38:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA26958 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fastlane.net (fastlane.net [204.251.16.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26951 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from 100 (dal54.fastlane.net [204.251.16.154]) by fastlane.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04311 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:33:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <310BECA3.5D7F@fastlane.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:37:39 -0800 From: Bob Ratliff Organization: tfllash X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6b (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: greetings X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What is the name of the standare FreeBSD 4.4 release kernel? I need to configure the mouse. I am reading the faq and my kernel.GENERIC seems to not be a binary config file. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 11:44:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA27224 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27219 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA22714; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:43:05 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:43:03 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: WWW Mirror? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a program for FreeBSD or something that can mirror a WWW site? For example, mirroring all of www.freebsd.org onto my webserver, is there a program to do that?? Thanks Daniel -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 11:50:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA27571 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27544 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:50:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601281950.LAA27544@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Sociedade Brasileira de Quimica/Admin cc: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI Question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:27:15 GMT." <199601281727.RAA18205@www.sbq.org.br> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:50:52 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Hello > We have 4 servers and I'm having a little problem installing >2.1.0 in some of them: > >server 2) P100 wiht on board NCR SCSI adaptor, installed without problems >but after reboot the message "Missing Operating System". Back to the >boot.flp and forcing (W)rite in fdisk made it work This is a geometry problem, but I can't tell you the proper geometry for these controllers. Perhaps Stephan knows. You can always create a partition using DOS fdisk, and the FreeBSD installer will use those values when creating partitions during install (you can even delete the DOS partition during the FreeBSD install -- its only needed to grab the geometry from). >server 3) P90 IBM with Adaptec 2942/W and IBM 1G HD, after some fight >against the geometry installed fine but, again "Missing Operating System" >and I have found no way to make it boot from the HD. I need to use >the floppy and boot sd(0,a)/kernel instead Again, a geometry problem. The proper geometry to use is the controller's translated geometry. For the 27/28/'294x cards, this is: Extended translation enabled in SCSI-Select: If the disk is > 1gig, 255 Heads/63 Sectors per track/#MB reported by disk probe/7 cylinders example. A 2100MB disk would take 25/64/300 in the G)eometry box If the disk is <= 1gig, same as with Extended translation disabled Extended translation disabled: 64 heads/32 sectors per track/#MB reported by disk probe cylinders example. A 500MB disk would take 64/32/500 in the G)eometry box. A 1200MB disk would take 64/32/1200 in the G)eometry box. You will have to re-install to correct the problem. >server 4) The worst case :-(, this is an old DEC 486Dx/33 server with an >Adaptec 1742 controller and two (450M sd0, 1.1G sd1) hard disks. >This computer is running FreeBSD since 1.0 and I never had problems >installing FreeBSD on it, yesterday I upgraded it from 2.0-pre-2.0.5-snap >to 2.1.0 and I got the evil "Missing Operating System" again! >I've tried all ways to make it bootable but as server (3) I need to >boot using the floppy. Same as for the 27/28/294X except some versions of the 1742 don't have an extended translation mode. >We can't stop the server (4) and it is running this way, I would >like very much to correct the problem without reinstalling it. You'll have to in order to correct the problem. >Romeu -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 11:52:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA27687 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [205.162.141.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27681 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.nightflight (laptop [205.162.141.3]) by nightflight.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA12772 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:57:34 -0800 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960128195345.2c2f4832@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:53:45 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Crutcher Subject: ISA to PCI switch Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I currently am using FBSD v2.1 and have the following as my SCSI controller card: Adaptec AHA-1542CF HD Controller Card Can I switch to a PCI (Adaptec) controller card without having to reformat or re-install FBSD v2.1? Is this just a swap-the-card scenario? Is the driver for the Adaptec PCI controller card stable? I have seen spurious e-mail about the PCI driver for the Adaptec card. Thanks, Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com 'Flights throughout the Internet' Voice/FAX: 619-631-7885 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 12:09:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA28401 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28388 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:09:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601282009.MAA28388@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Gary Crutcher cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISA to PCI switch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:53:45 PST." <2.2.16.19960128195345.2c2f4832@nightflight.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:09:15 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, > >I currently am using FBSD v2.1 and have the following as my SCSI controller >card: > > Adaptec AHA-1542CF HD Controller Card > >Can I switch to a PCI (Adaptec) controller card without having to reformat >or re-install FBSD v2.1? Yes. >Is this just a swap-the-card scenario? Yes. So long as you keep the same setting for extended translation when doing the switch. >Is the driver for the Adaptec PCI controller card stable? I have seen >spurious e-mail about the PCI driver for the Adaptec card. You should upgrade to 2.1-STABLE since the version of the driver in that branch is far more stable than the 2.1R driver. > >Thanks, > >Gary >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com >Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com >'Flights throughout the Internet' Voice/FAX: 619-631-7885 >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 12:43:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA29952 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [198.7.0.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA29947 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from jbarrm.dialup.access.net (jbarrm@jbarrm.dialup.access.net [166.84.200.169]) by mail2.panix.com (8.7.1/8.7.1/PanixM1.0) with SMTP id PAA08872 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 15:43:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 15:44:31 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson X-Sender: jbarrm@jbarrm.dialup.access.net To: "Freebsd.questions" Subject: Hylafax;uucp & dialer permissions. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've installed hylafax-v3.0pl0. It works without any serious problems. Except for hylafax changes the permissions on /dev/cuaa1: crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 28, 128 Jan 27 16:03 cuaa0 crw------- 1 uucp dialer 28, 129 Jan 28 12:54 cuaa1 In order to dial out with kermit, ppp, seyon, after using 'sendfax' I have to 'su -' and re-chmod cuaa1 to give rw access back to dialer. The hylafax manual suggests using 'config', & 'make depend' to fix this; '..look at the DeviceMode configuration parameter in config(4F) to control the protection mode that HylaFAX sets for the device.' Does this mean I have to add a single_line value to my custom kernel config file that defines hylafax, and the permission modes I want to preserve? Or is there a separate hylafax_preserve_dialer_permissions config file that I have to create first? I've already tried changing most of the "chmod(device, 0600);" references in the hylafax source code to 0660,(& recompiling) but this has no effect. I've also written to the flexfax mailing list, but that seems to be a low volume list, I haven't heard anything yet. I'm at a temporary loss as just what to do next. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank You Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 13:17:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA01617 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01612 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA22033; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:14:22 -0800 To: Sociedade Brasileira de Quimica/Admin cc: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI Question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:27:15 GMT." <199601281727.RAA18205@www.sbq.org.br> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:14:22 -0800 Message-ID: <22031.822863662@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > server 2) P100 wiht on board NCR SCSI adaptor, installed without problems > but after reboot the message "Missing Operating System". Back to the Geometry is misconfigured. > server 3) P90 IBM with Adaptec 2942/W and IBM 1G HD, after some fight > against the geometry installed fine but, again "Missing Operating System" Geometry is misconfigured. > installing FreeBSD on it, yesterday I upgraded it from 2.0-pre-2.0.5-snap > to 2.1.0 and I got the evil "Missing Operating System" again! Geometry is misconfigured. :-) You really really need to read the documentation on installing the system. It gives a number of tips on how to configure your geometry correctly. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 14:36:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA07205 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ts.umu.se (root@stalin.ts.umu.se [130.239.18.135]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07162 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from qtech.ts.umu.se by ts.umu.se with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0tgfhW-0000NnC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:35 MET Message-ID: <310C1500.4EA4@ts.umu.se> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:29:52 -0100 From: Joakim Ögren Organization: Q-Tech Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Token-Ring & IPX support? X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Linux doesn't support IPX over Token-Ring. Does FreeBSD support it? If yes, you've got yourself another FreeBSD fan :-) Joakim Ögren qtech@ts.umu.se From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 14:47:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA07857 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dartvax.dartmouth.edu (dartvax.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07852 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hanover.VALLEY.NET (hanover.valley.net [198.115.160.10]) by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (8.7.3+DND/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07409 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:47:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199601282247.RAA07409@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Received: by hanover.VALLEY.NET (blitz.valley.net) via SMTP from v2-p-102.valley.net id <567378> 28 Jan 96 17:47:16 EST Date: Sun, 28 Jan 96 17:49:09 -0800 From: "Adam.Strohl." X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel Devices Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk OK, I have installed FreeBSD of my IDE CD-Rom Drive. When The Installer runs, it detects my cdrom drive and Proaudio correctly, but one I've got the system installed and boot of my hard disk, it doesn't come up. My guess is that the drivers for my sound card + cd-rom drive arent in the kernel copied to the HD. What do I have to do to get these items added to my kernel ? Thanx in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 14:57:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA08507 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08502 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA08285; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:39:29 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601282309.JAA08285@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Sun refugee (BSD-bigot) seeks OS for Pentium Pro system.... To: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net (Jacob M. Parnas) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:39:29 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601281802.NAA00791@jparnas.cybercom.net> from "Jacob M. Parnas" at Jan 28, 96 01:02:43 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jacob M. Parnas stands accused of saying: > the time that the P7 switches, the P6's should be much faster. I'm planning on > getting the ASUS P/E-EP6P7D, probably from netexpress Just in case the people who have already bought these boards don't catch you in time, DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE BOARDS. Unless I am muchly mistaken they use the Intel Orion chipset, which is badly broken (~4M bus bandwidth). Wcarchive is currently running on an unreleased Intel server board which doesn't have this problem, but I remember following their experiences with the ASUS board ending in its ultimate return. > 1. Will a MP system work with freebsd with one processor OK, and > multiprocessors? Is the MP support planned in the future (or currently > supported) and what type (spreading out the processes or, having a multi- > threading compiler and kernel) Yes, FreeBSD runs happily on one processor in an MP system. MP support exists in some shape, and its direction is largely dependant on having someone take control of the project and drive it forwards. > 3. How happy are you with your choice? What are the pros+cons both up front > (such as ports) and undeterminable such as support? Having the source and a pile of developers close to hand is invaluable. The ports collection makes setting up a new system a trivial exercise. > 4. How do you see the future? Do you think BSDI will do a lot more ports > and add new features? Ports in which sense? 3rd-party applications or platforms? I think BSDI are concentrating hard on the internet POP market, possibly to the detriment of their system asa general-purpose Unix. > 5. Am I correct that Linux is really System V and some BSD stuff is missing? No. Linux is a completely new design by Linus. Its internals owe more to pinball machine code than SysV. Much, but not all, of the BSD stuff is there. If you plan on doing any sort of development (either user-space or kernel-space) FreeBSD is my recommendation. > Thanks, Jacob -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 15:40:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA10834 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 15:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii2.iii.net (root@iii2.iii.net [199.232.40.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10780 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 15:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii2.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA06026 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:39:56 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:39:56 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199601282339.SAA06026@iii2.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RARP Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD support RARP? Is it built-in? Is it an extra program I can get? How do I set it up? Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 16:03:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA12451 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ix8.ix.netcom.com (ix8.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12443 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:03:07 -0800 (PST) From: alpert@ix.netcom.com Received: from [205.184.141.91] by ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id QAA17047; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:02:34 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:02:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199601290002.QAA17047@ix8.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 2.1: Hangs during HD boot. SOLVED! To: questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: support@cdrom.com X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.21 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A fine gentleman from Australia pointed out to me that BSD does not like some non-standard IDE controller settings. Sure enough, I was using BLOCK mode. On disabling block mode, BSD boots fine. DON'T USE BLOCK MODE w/FreeBSD 2.1! Alan M. Alpert alpert@ix.netcom.com 102342.3357@compuserve.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 16:22:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA13803 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from masternet.it (root@[194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13791 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmarco (ts1port14d.masternet.it [194.184.65.36]) by masternet.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA05631 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:20:52 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960129000357.006a0378@masternet.it> X-Sender: gmarco@masternet.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:03:57 +0100 To: questions@freebsd.com From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Everyday a new strange thing ... I succeded compiling kernel slowing down the Pentium back from 132 to 120mhz (as is in reality) (tnx to Michael Smith for the hints). Now I have another problem... My machine is a Pentium 120, AHA 2940uw, 2 Hd scsi, a sony cdrom scsi 4x, a sony cd-r, a sb16 and nothing significative else... So I try to do the config for kernel like this : --- cut --- # # GMARCO -- Pentium, 120mhz, Pci A2940uw, CDrom sony 4x scsi, CDU 920, Sb16 A220,i5,d1,h5 # # $Id: GMARCO,v 0.1 machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident GMARCO maxusers 10 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem #options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options MFS #Memory filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=5" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on sd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller scbus0 controller ahc0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr ^^^^ is it necessary ? device sd0 #Hd scsi device st0 #Tape scsi device cd0 #Cd rom Scsi controller snd0 #Generic support for ALL Sound Card device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 #Sb16 in 16 BIT DMA 5 device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device log pseudo-device pty 16 --- cut --- The machine is not on a network... 3 Problems : 1) When I launch /stand/sysinstall ---> it says : EXEC format error. Wrong Architecture. With the other kernel everything works, obviusly, fine. 2) Aha0 is for A2940 Pci or is a version for other controllers of the same family ? i.e. 2740,2840 which are on the isa (vlb) bus.... 3) Sb16 is not seen.... :-( Any hints for this config.... ??? Regards, __ __/// Gianmarco \XX/ +------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | +-------------------+ | | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | | Hello! ,,, | | | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | | (o o) | | | Fidonet : 2:332/113.0@fidonet.org | | ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | | | Amiganet: 39:102/507@amiganet.ftn | +-------------------+ | +------------------------------------+-----------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 16:25:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA14070 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:25:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14042 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id BAA27252; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:21:58 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id BAA13359; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:21:57 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA04467; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 00:57:42 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601282357.AAA04467@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: SCSI Question To: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 00:57:41 +0100 (MET) Cc: sbqadm@sbq.org.br Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601281950.LAA27544@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at Jan 28, 96 11:50:52 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > >We can't stop the server (4) and it is running this way, I would > >like very much to correct the problem without reinstalling it. > > You'll have to in order to correct the problem. Well, you don't really _need_ to re-install, but it's highly recommended, and you need a double-net if you wanna correct it ``on the fly''. Basically, what happens is the following: |<--------------------------->| | Last | size of a cylinder as the | | ficticous | FreeBSD installation ass- | | cylinder | umed the BIOS would use | | boundary V V V +-+--------------+------------+---------------------- ... ---+-------+ |M| Padded unuse|d space, to |FBSD | un- | |B| remain compa|tible with |boot FreeBSD | used | |R| other system|s | | | +-+--------------+------------+---------------------- ... ---+-------+ ^ ^ | size of a cyl- | | inder as your | | BIOS thinks | |<-------------->| The BIOS is told to boot off cylinder 1, sector 1, head 0. As you can see above, if the ideas of FreeBSD's sysinstall and the BIOS about the size of a (ficticous) cylinder disagree, the Master Boot Record won't find the boot sector of the operating system, and since it misses the boot signature (0x55, 0xaa in the last two bytes of the first sector of the o/s), it prints this ``Missing operating system'' message. However, everything above marked as ``FreeBSD'' is intact, as you can observe when booting from floppy. So if you really don't mind the potential danger, you could re-calculate the values in the MBR to match the C/H/S number for the area where ``FBSD boot'' starts. This way, the MBR will finally find the system. Alternatively, for people like you who are operating a truly dedicated server machine, where the disks will never see any other system so compatibility is not an issue (nor is ``multi-boot''), this is what the ``Dangerously dedicated'' mode is for. Select A)ll FreeBSD in the partition editor, and answer the next question with the non-standard answer ``No''. (Read carefully.) This will setup the following: +-----------------------------------------------------... -----------+ |FBSD | |boot FreeBSD | | | +---------------------------------------------------- ... -----------+ As you can see, no wasted space at all, and since the Master Boot Record and the FreeBSD bootstrap are identical, you don't have to care for any BIOS geometry at all. The BIOS boots sector 1, cylinder 0, head 0, and boots straight into FreeBSD this way. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 16:42:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA15156 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA15151 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA08697; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:24:30 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601290054.LAA08697@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: RARP To: shorty@iii.net (Justin Seger) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:24:30 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601282339.SAA06026@iii2.iii.net> from "Justin Seger" at Jan 28, 96 06:39:56 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Justin Seger stands accused of saying: > > Does FreeBSD support RARP? Is it built-in? Is it an extra program I can get? > How do I set it up? cain:~>which rarpd /usr/sbin/rarpd cain:~>man rarpd RARPD(8) RARPD(8) NAME rarpd - Reverse ARP Daemon SYNOPSIS rarpd [ -af ] [ interface ] DESCRIPTION Rarpd services Reverse ARP requests on the Ethernet con- nected to interface. Upon receiving a request, maps the target hardware address to an IP address via its name, which must be present in both the ethers(5) and hosts(5) databases. If a host does not exist in both databses, the translation cannot proceed and a reply will not be sent. ... cain:~>man 5 ethers ... cain:~>man 5 hosts ... > -Justin Seger- -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 16:52:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA15555 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA15529 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA08742; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:34:48 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601290104.LAA08742@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Problems to configure IDE cdrom and sound card drivers. To: ccp@uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu (ChingPing Chou) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:34:48 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601281212.EAA24373@myosin.ee.washington.edu> from "ChingPing Chou" at Jan 28, 96 04:12:31 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ChingPing Chou stands accused of saying: > > Hi there, > > I tried to reconfig my kernel to include IDE cdrom and sound card drivers. > So I edited MYKERNEL and recompile it followed the instructions described in > the /usr/share/doc/FAQ/*.html and handbook.*.html. > > For the sound card: > > After I reboot the system, it seemed to detect it and showed > "sb0 at 0x220 irq 9 drq 1 on isa" > "sb0: " > However, after booting, I could not find it by running 'lsdev'. When I did > "sh MAKEDEV sb0", it responded "sb0 - no such device name". sb0 is a controller, other devices hang off it. Look at the LINT file for more details. > Can anyone tell me what do I miss here? Thanks in advance. Sorry, can't tell you about ATAPI cdroms; I have religious objections there. > Ching-Ping -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 17:00:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA15814 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15808 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA08802; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:42:37 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601290112.LAA08802@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: custom boot from floppy To: tkelley@cy.com (Tim M. Kelley) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:42:36 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601252029.PAA26950@cy.com> from "Tim M. Kelley" at Jan 25, 96 02:22:46 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Tim M. Kelley stands accused of saying: > > If I make the outlined changes described below and compile, how do I get the > resulting executable onto a floppy so that I can use it as a boot floppy? The end result of building in that directory are two files, boot1 and boot2. You can either say 'make install' in that directory and install these two as the standard boot images, and then say disklabel -B or you can use them in-place with : disklabel -B -b boot1 -s boot2 -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 17:05:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA16010 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16005 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA08831; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:47:28 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601290117.LAA08831@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation To: officeware@gnn.com (william howell) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:47:28 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601251925.OAA31200@mail-e1a.gnn.com> from "william howell" at Jan 25, 96 01:24:46 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk william howell stands accused of saying: > I could do anything the system locked up. I the removed the boot > disk and tried to reboot from DOS on the hard drive, nothing > happened. It doesn't even go through the initial BISO boot > functions. Can't boot from DOS diskette or BSD diskette. Seems tha > the attempeted installation has done some damage to my hardware. > > Do you have any explanations ? Firstly, not "our company". Very few people here have any connections with Walnut Creek. Secondly, Bollocks. Your hardware may have expired, but it's not due to anything that the FreeBSD installer did. I'd be complaining to your PC vendor. > Bill Howell -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 17:07:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA16085 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16079 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA08821; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:45:36 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601290115.LAA08821@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: iso0 probe during boot kills my video To: sgkruk@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (Serge G. Kruk) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:45:36 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601251831.NAA06316@barrow.uwaterloo.ca> from "Serge G. Kruk" at Jan 25, 96 01:31:34 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Serge G. Kruk stands accused of saying: > > I am at a loss to see a connection between probing the serial channel > and my video card. The Mach64 (in order to be compatible with some old IBM 8514 braindamage) occupies some port addresses that are also used for com4. Unlike the S3 chips which also occupy these addresses, the Mach64 is very touchy about what happens there, and due to some historic braindamage in the PC serial port department, to probe com2 in the presence of com4 requires writing to com4's addresses. The simple answer is to remove the last number in the definition of 'likely_com_ports' in /sys/i386/isa/sio.c and rebuild your kernel. This has been fixed recently, so it won't be a problem with future versions. > /*===== Serge G. Kruk ====================================================== -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 17:36:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA17228 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17223 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:36:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA08960; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:18:47 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601290148.MAA08960@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: your mail To: gmarco@masternet.it (Gianmarco Giovannelli) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:18:47 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.com In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960129000357.006a0378@masternet.it> from "Gianmarco Giovannelli" at Jan 29, 96 01:03:57 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Gianmarco Giovannelli stands accused of saying: > maxusers 10 Too low. Try 2xRAM, eg for 16M, set to 32. > options MFS #Memory filesystem You probably don't want that/ > options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 > options "SCSI_DELAY=5" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device > options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers Or that. > controller ahc0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr > ^^^^ > is it necessary ? Yes, that's the 2940 driver. > controller snd0 #Generic support for ALL Sound Card > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 #Sb16 in 16 BIT DMA 5 You also need device sb0 ... device opl0 ... > The machine is not on a network... You may still want pseudo-device ether > 1) When I launch /stand/sysinstall ---> it says : EXEC format error. Wrong > Architecture. > With the other kernel everything works, obviusly, fine. You removed pseudo-device gzip which is needed to run gzipped binaries. > 2) Aha0 is for A2940 Pci or is a version for other controllers of the same > family ? i.e. 2740,2840 > which are on the isa (vlb) bus.... The aha driver is for the 1542. You really should read the LINT file. > 3) Sb16 is not seen.... :-( See above. > __/// Gianmarco -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 17:42:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA17472 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rogers.com (mail.rogers.com [198.231.112.123]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17466 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by janus.rogers.com id <20802>; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:44:16 -0500 From: blau@mail.rogers.com (Benjamin Lau) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Error: lnc0 Receive Errors Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:45:27 -0500 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Message-Id: <96Jan28.204416est.20802@janus.rogers.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am using 2.1R and the lnc0 device on a Compaq PCI (AMD-PCNet) ethernet card. The device seems to work without a single glitch...until I run Amanda to backup some servers. The following is a capture of the error messages. Please note that 'scsi' happens to be the hostname... sorry about the confusion. ------------ Jan 27 16:02:08 scsi /kernel: lnc0: Receive overflow error Jan 27 16:02:23 scsi /kernel: lnc0: Receive overflow error Jan 27 16:02:35 scsi /kernel: lnc0: Babble error - more than 1519 bytes transmitted Jan 27 16:02:35 scsi /kernel: lnc0: Babble error - more than 1519 bytes transmitted Jan 27 16:03:27 scsi /kernel: lnc0: Babble error - more than 1519 bytes transmitted Jan 27 16:04:09 scsi /kernel: lnc0: Receive overflow error Jan 27 16:04:37 scsi /kernel: lnc0: Babble error - more than 1519 bytes transmitted Jan 27 16:05:16 scsi last message repeated 2 times Jan 27 16:06:17 scsi last message repeated 3 times ------------- Any idea? Does it mean the network card is not catching up with the incoming traffic? And what causes it to send more than 1519 bytes? Do I need to adjust Amanda not to use that much of network bandwidth for transferring files (I'm using the default of 400KB/sec). Regards, Ben ___ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 17:59:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA18241 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:59:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [205.162.141.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA18236 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.nightflight (laptop [205.162.141.3]) by nightflight.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA13628 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:04:29 -0800 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960129020040.38b75d8e@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:00:40 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Crutcher Subject: FBSD v2.1-STABLE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is there a gzip'd version of v2.1-STABLE, or do I have to download each dir? If I have to download each dir, what dirs should I download? I need to make a new kernel for my Adaptec PCI SCSI card, which has a more stable aha-pci driver. Thanks, Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com 'Flights throughout the Internet' Voice/FAX: 619-631-7885 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 18:37:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA20388 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:37:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-img-5.compuserve.com (dub-img-5.compuserve.com [198.4.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20383 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by dub-img-5.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id VAA17399; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:37:04 -0500 Date: 28 Jan 96 21:33:26 EST From: Robert Burns <103302.2176@compuserve.com> To: FreeBsd Subject: SyQuest SCSI Drives Message-ID: <960129023325_103302.2176_IHH49-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I have noticed alot of people asking questions about Freebsd support of SyQuest drives but I haven't seen anything concrete. Has someone managed to boot from a SyQuest drive installed as a second hard drive. I went through the entire 2.0.5 install process successfully but when I came to boot off sd(1,a)/kernel, I got a repeated error message.... ERROR: C:0 H:0 S:0 What's up? Anyone have the solution yet. I am not subscribed to the mailing list so please resond directly. Robert Burns 103302.2176@compuserve.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 18:47:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA20839 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from wakko.gil.net (keithl@wakko.gil.net [205.138.35.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20833 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keithl@localhost) by wakko.gil.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA05370; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:46:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:46:48 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Leonard To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Thanks :RE: HELP! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk To all who looked favoriably on this newbie and let me back on to my HD with their clear advise on mounting / while in single user mode: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Keith Leonard keithl@gil.net PS: hope I can repay the debt someday. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:29:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA27658 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:29:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-23.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA27637 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA08560; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:28:22 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:28:21 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: Barry Masterson cc: "Freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: Hylafax;uucp & dialer permissions. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Barry Masterson wrote: > In order to dial out with kermit, ppp, seyon, after using 'sendfax' > I have to 'su -' and re-chmod cuaa1 to give rw access back to dialer. > The hylafax manual suggests using 'config', & 'make depend' to fix this; > > '..look at the DeviceMode configuration parameter in config(4F) to > control the protection mode that HylaFAX sets for the device.' > > Does this mean I have to add a single_line value to my custom kernel > config file that defines hylafax, and the permission modes I want to > preserve? All you yave to do is edit /var/spool/fax/etc/config.cuaa1. Find a line that starts with "DeviceMode:" and if one exists, change it's value to 0666, otherwise if a line like that doesn't exist, just add one: DeviceMode: 0666 You'll then have to restart the fax server, and then everything should be hunky-dory. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:33:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA27974 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA27968 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04344; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:31:16 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:31:16 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Bob Ratliff cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: greetings In-Reply-To: <310BECA3.5D7F@fastlane.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Bob Ratliff wrote: > What is the name of the standare FreeBSD 4.4 release kernel? > I need to configure the mouse. I am reading the faq and my > kernel.GENERIC seems to not be a binary config file. It's not. Let's clarify: 1. The standard kernel installed by default is GENERIC, which is called ``kernel'' in your / directory. 2. ``kernel.GENERIC'' IS a compiled, ready-to-boot kernel. 3. If you want to build a new kernel, you need the kernel sources, aka the ``sys'' distribution. If you did not install this, you can fetch it from ftp.freebsd.org in /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/src/ssys.*. Download into a directory, su to root, cd /usr/src, cat ssys.* | tar xzf - to install the sources; then go into /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, copy LINT to MYKERNEL (or whatever you want to call it), and modify as you wish. Your new kernel config will be in flat text. 4. cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL; make depend && make, copy kernel to /, reboot, and have fun :) See the Handbook for more info. 5. FreeBSD uses a version scheme departed from the Berkley numbers, so the current release is 2.1. Hope this helps, and sorry if I went overboard :) You sound like you know about rebuilding kernels, but not the FreeBSD way. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:33:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA28018 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:33:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28013 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04351; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:32:04 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:32:04 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Jamison cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hardware Compatibility.. In-Reply-To: <9601262223.AA29507@jupiter2.noname> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Mark Jamison wrote: > Hi I was wondering if FreeBSD would run on my system.. > > My system is configured as follows: > > 486DX-2 50MHz > 8 megs RAM > EIDE Controller Card > EIDE Mitsumi 4X CD-ROM > EIDE Conner 850MB Hard Drive > Soundblaster 16 > Gravis Ultrasound ACE > Cirrus SVGA VESA Card (1meg VRAM) Only sticky point may be your CDROM, since ATAPI isn't well supported (slave on the primary disk only). Will eventually work though :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:37:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA28286 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28280 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04362; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:34:56 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:34:56 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Joe McGuckin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP!!! Can't compile kernel after upgrade from 2.0.5 In-Reply-To: <199601262143.NAA12506@ns.via.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Joe McGuckin wrote: > In i386/isa/matcd/matcd.c I'm gettng lots of compile errors. > Did'nt anyone try this out before shipping it? Subject is the key: There is a "matcd.h" that will not allow you to compile the matcd support properly. I think if you delete it that should fix things, but you should instead rm -r /usr/src/sys and reinstall. There are other side effects when upgrading from 2.0.5 to 2.1 in the kernel source tree, starting fresh is a good idea IMHO. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:39:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA28356 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28347 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:39:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04372; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:37:04 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:37:03 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: eistal@cyf-kr.edu.pl cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to install WWW In-Reply-To: <199601262243.XAA14015@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jan 1996 eistal@cyf-kr.edu.pl wrote: > I'm beginner with UNIX. I've installed FreeBSD Release 2.1.0 on my P6. > I'd like to use my machine as the web server. I've read the handbook > but I don't know how to do it? 1. Install a web server. I use apache here, very solid package. More info is available at http://www.apache.org/. There should be one available in the packages or ports distribution. 2. Read the README for installing apache and that should get you going. btw, the basic configuration for apache, the ncsa info, is on http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu. Took me a while to find that :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:40:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA28479 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28472 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04379; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:38:51 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:38:51 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: whonew@newworld.bridge.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Install Stops At the 'term' command In-Reply-To: <199601270439.XAA10652@newworld.bridge.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jan 1996 whonew@newworld.bridge.net wrote: > I CAN NOT get my modem to even dial after executing 'term' when > propted to do so. I get no responce at all. I have tried to type ATZ, > ATDT, etc, but get nothing. Seems like the modem is not there. > > Having disabled everything but my drives, modem, mouse, and > keyboard... > And no conflicts appear in config > And all the partition and labels appear normal... > And my modem is currently operating and on a weel know IRQ and > Address. correct port and speed? sio0 = COM1 sio1 = COM2 sio3 = COM3 etc... also, /dev/cuaa0 = COM1, /dev/cuaa1 = COM2. I haven't done the slip install so I'm not sure what is needed to get connected to the modem. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:43:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA28607 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28601 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04396; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:41:54 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:41:53 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Adrian Neville <101603.1662@compuserve.com> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernal build failed - _hw_float undefined In-Reply-To: <960128141824_101603.1662_JHP70-1@CompuServe.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 28 Jan 1996, Adrian Neville wrote: > loading kernal > kern_sysctl.o: undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment > *** error code 1 read LINT. device npx0 is NOT OPTIONAL. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:46:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA28775 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28768 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04404; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:44:34 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:44:34 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Adam.Strohl." cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Devices In-Reply-To: <199601282247.RAA07409@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Adam.Strohl. wrote: > OK, I have installed FreeBSD of my IDE CD-Rom Drive. When The Installer runs, > it > detects my cdrom drive and Proaudio correctly, but one I've got the system > installed > and boot of my hard disk, it doesn't come up. My guess is that the drivers for > my > sound card + cd-rom drive arent in the kernel copied to the HD. What do I have > to > do to get these items added to my kernel ? Thanx in advance. You got it. You need to recompile, enabling your CDROM type and audio card support. Sources are in /usr/src/sys if you installed them, otherwise reinstall them from the CD. Instructions are in the handbook or FAQ. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:49:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA28954 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28947 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:49:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04416; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:47:02 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:47:01 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: brian cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpstat In-Reply-To: <199601270200.SAA04198@sunspot.filoli.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, brian wrote: > I'm trying to get my HPDeskjet 540 working. > > When I do lpstat the first line prints fine, and then all printing stops and > the print job is dead. What is lpstat? Did you install lpd as instructed in the Handbook under ``Printing''? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:50:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA29033 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29027 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04423; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:48:39 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:48:38 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Bob Ratliff cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem setup under FreeBSD 4.4 Lite. In-Reply-To: <310B0DE3.290F@fastlane.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Bob Ratliff wrote: > What do I need to do to get the 3 button mouse setup so x-term will > find it? The modem worksfine on com2. I have tried running xf86config and > saving to my home dir and copying it to the /etc dir. I have vi'd the > XF86Config and the mouse setting do change, but x-term never has mouse > control. The mouse is fine. It is a AXELEN 3 button serial mouse. > I have the cdrom install disk. Let's see the relevant section of XF86Config. There are 3 releases based on BSD 4.4 Lite, could you be more specific as to which FreeBSD release you're on? :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 20:53:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA29495 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29483 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04433; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:50:46 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:50:45 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Anthony Hill cc: Luis Verissimo , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need recomendation on http server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Anthony Hill wrote: > I have used apache, and NCSA 4.0/4.1, both were easy to install and > setup, apache is in the ports collection, and NCSA installs with no > modifications. I used NCSA as a deamon and from inetd, but have only used > apache as a deamon - the docs recommend against using apache from inetd. > (Anyone know why ?) Apache can manage multiple connections better than inetd can -- Apache spawns off 4 or so instances; inetd spawns 1 for every connection, which can get costly in terms of time and memory. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 21:01:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA00623 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00596 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:01:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04474; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:58:02 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:58:02 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Sociedade Brasileira de Quimica/Admin cc: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI Question In-Reply-To: <199601281727.RAA18205@www.sbq.org.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Sociedade Brasileira de Quimica/Admin wrote: > Hello > We have 4 servers and I'm having a little problem installing > 2.1.0 in some of them: In each and every case: 1) Boot to DOS 2) Run FDISK 3) Select the appropriate disk and partition as "active" That should fix them. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 21:15:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA02700 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA02695 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04494; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:13:39 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:13:39 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Le-Chin Eugene Liu cc: FreeBSD questions mail list Subject: Re: XFree86 problem under FreeBSD 2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Le-Chin Eugene Liu wrote: > XFree86 doesn't work on my computer. I have a fairly new ATI Mach64 > 2M DRAM card. Basically, the 3.1.2 probes well except the card type. > (see the following messages) Mine is a PCI card. Can we see a XF86Config? Did you run xf86config to configure the thing first? > I'm wondering if anyone can help me on this. Or Is my card too new to be > supported? Thank you. It's supported all right. I'm using one right now :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 21:43:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA05025 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA05015 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 21:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA09584; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:25:29 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601290555.QAA09584@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: SyQuest SCSI Drives To: 103302.2176@compuserve.com (Robert Burns) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:25:28 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <960129023325_103302.2176_IHH49-1@CompuServe.COM> from "Robert Burns" at Jan 28, 96 09:33:26 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Robert Burns stands accused of saying: > I have noticed alot of people asking questions about Freebsd support > of SyQuest drives but I haven't seen anything concrete. Has someone > managed to boot from a SyQuest drive installed as a second hard > drive. > I went through the entire 2.0.5 install process successfully but > when I came to boot off sd(1,a)/kernel, I got a repeated error > message.... > > ERROR: C:0 H:0 S:0 Your BIOS probably doesn't recognise it as a fixed disk; the above means that the bootloader got a BIOS error reading 0/0/0, which is Bad. > Robert Burns -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 22:48:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA08717 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 22:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from comtch.iea.com (comtch.iea.com [198.17.249.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA08712 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 22:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by comtch.iea.com (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id GAA29105; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:48:32 GMT Message-Id: <199601290648.GAA29105@comtch.iea.com> Subject: elm distfile corrupted To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 22:48:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Mark Smith" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I just upgraded to FreeBSD 2.1 with very few problems. /etc/sysconfig gave me a headache for about half an hour but that eventually fell into place. My current problem is with a distifle on the CDROM. when I try to gunzip the elm.(whatever).tar.gz, I get a CRC error. Where can I get a good copy of the file(s)? Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 23:18:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA10371 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA10366 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nike.efn.org (garcia.efn.org [198.68.17.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA06737 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:17:30 -0800 Received: (from gurney_j@localhost) by nike.efn.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA11508; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:16:23 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:16:23 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Justin Seger cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RARP In-Reply-To: <199601282339.SAA06026@iii2.iii.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Justin Seger wrote: > Does FreeBSD support RARP? Is it built-in? Is it an extra program I can get? > How do I set it up? take a look at the man page for rarpd... should be all you need... TTYL.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org Modem/FAX: (503) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) GCS/M/Sd#h+s+!gau-a--w++++vC+++++UF++++P---E---N++W---M--V--Y+t+5++G+b+D++ B----eu+h++!f++n---- CD5OUF++++.L-------2W.DM----N.9---NET2SP3s.2,4s.,4d.2,6--- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 23:36:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA11208 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:36:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA11201 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA05209; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:35:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:35:28 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: eistal@cyf-kr.edu.pl cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to install WWW In-Reply-To: <199601262243.XAA14015@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Look at the apache, it is working like NCSA httpd version 1.3. Many people say apache is good. Apache is easy to install in FreeBSD everyting is there ready, you just type pkg_add ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/.../packages-2.1/All/apache-0.8.14.tgz (Check the path) And edit in /etc/sysconfig the one line: # Set to YES if you have the Apache WEB server (see /usr/ports/net/apache) # installed and want to run it at system startup time (this is better than # running it from inetd if you're running a dedicated WWW server). apache_httpd=NO And maybe you have to config someting minor in /usr/ports/net/apache I have done it ones, but could not use apache after NCSA httpd 1.4, there is some differences and users would not have liked to modify the *.html:s they have. Seppo On Fri, 26 Jan 1996 eistal@cyf-kr.edu.pl wrote: > Hi, > > I'm beginner with UNIX. I've installed FreeBSD Release 2.1.0 on my P6. > I'd like to use my machine as the web server. I've read the handbook > but I don't know how to do it? > > I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to install FreeBSD > compatible web server. Which one is good on my machine? > > > Thanks in advance. > > jasiu > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 28 23:55:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA11815 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:55:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA11809 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA16609; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:58:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199601290758.IAA16609@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: greetings To: ratliff@fastlane.net (Bob Ratliff) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:58:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <310BECA3.5D7F@fastlane.net> from "Bob Ratliff" at Jan 28, 96 01:37:39 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > What is the name of the standare FreeBSD 4.4 release kernel? > I need to configure the mouse. I am reading the faq and my /kernel is always the name of the kernel being booted by default. The standard (distributed) kernels' configuration file is /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC. You can build up changes upon this file. It requires to get the system sources of course (src/ssys* from the distribution). > kernel.GENERIC seems to not be a binary config file. > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 01:20:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA16187 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16182 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA10245; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:03:18 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601290933.UAA10245@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: elm distfile corrupted To: msmith@comtch.iea.com (Mark Smith) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:03:17 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601290648.GAA29105@comtch.iea.com> from "Mark Smith" at Jan 28, 96 10:48:32 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Mark Smith stands accused of saying: > > Greetings, > > I just upgraded to FreeBSD 2.1 with very few problems. /etc/sysconfig > gave me a headache for about half an hour but that eventually fell into > place. > > My current problem is with a distifle on the CDROM. when I try > to gunzip the elm.(whatever).tar.gz, I get a CRC error. Where > can I get a good copy of the file(s)? Is it _only_ the elm distfile that's corrupted? If not, I'd be suspicious of your CDrom drive - what is it? Why are you gunzipping the distfile manually? > Mark -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 01:24:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA16452 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from resolver.viaduk.net (root@resolver.viaduk.net [194.44.78.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA16435 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sns@localhost) by resolver.viaduk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA14434; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:23:17 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:23:16 +0200 (EET) From: Sergey Stepanenko To: Daniel Baker cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WWW Mirror? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Contacts: +38 044 4625090 X-Organization: Viaduk-Telecom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Daniel Baker wrote: > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:43:03 -0600 (CST) > From: Daniel Baker > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: WWW Mirror? > > Does anyone know of a program for FreeBSD or something that can mirror a > WWW site? For example, mirroring all of www.freebsd.org onto my > webserver, is there a program to do that?? This is a modified version of Oscar Nierstrasz's # htget script. I have modified the code here, and added some new # procedures in the url, html and http lib. # # The original version (and newer ones) can be found on # # # Retrieves HTML pages, creating local copies in the _current_ # directory. The script will check for the last-modified stamp on the # document, and will not fetch it if the document isn't changed. # Options : # -abs - Relative URLs are converted to absolute URLs. # -r - All reachable UR"s with the same directory # prefixare fetched (will convert to rel. urls) # -fa - Will not check after timestamp (will work like # the old version of this script) # -s - Will send output to stdout instead of file > > Thanks > Daniel > > -- > Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM > "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" > > With best . . Sergey Stepanenko - System/Network Administrator Technical Director - Viaduk-Telecom, Inc 10 Sagaidachnogo St., 254070 Kiev, Ukraine tel. +38 (044) 4168267 tel./fax +38 (044) 4625090 hostmaster@viaduk.net - sns@viaduk.net . . From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 01:44:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA17469 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA17463 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA07472 ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 01:43:52 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA22367; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:37:48 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA17309; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:37:48 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id KAA07573; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:35:32 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601290935.KAA07573@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: SCSI Question To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:35:31 +0100 (MET) Cc: sbqadm@sbq.org.br, hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 28, 96 08:58:02 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Doug White wrote: > > In each and every case: > > 1) Boot to DOS > 2) Run FDISK > 3) Select the appropriate disk and partition as "active" > > That should fix them. Nope. It won't. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 02:29:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA19823 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from eel.dataplex.net (EEL.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19818 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [199.183.109.242] (cod [199.183.109.242]) by eel.dataplex.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA00844; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:29:35 -0600 X-Sender: rkw@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:29:39 -0600 To: Gary Crutcher From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: FBSD v2.1-STABLE Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, > >Is there a gzip'd version of v2.1-STABLE, or do I have to download each dir? >If I have to download each dir, what dirs should I download? I need to make >a new kernel for my Adaptec PCI SCSI card, which has a more stable aha-pci >driver. You might consider the CTM versions of 2.1 (aka -stable) This is particularly true if you have the 2.1-RELEASE CD ROM since we can start from the files on there and eliminate a 29Meg download. The updates are generated daily and automatically distributed to those who subscribe to the ctm-src-2_1 list. The past files are also posted to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ctm/ although I have not gotten the site to be automatically updated yet Look in /pub/FreeBSD/incoming/src-2* for additional files. (Including, at this time, the necessary README that you should read first) If you have additional problems, please contact me directly. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 02:56:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA20981 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:56:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20976 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:56:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA05474; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:56:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:56:02 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: questions@freebsd.org cc: questions@netbsd.org Subject: Is there plans to implement ELF into FreeBSD/NetBSD? Linux has it. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I did search FAQ etc. on www.freebsd.org but fould nothing about ELF. Is there plans to implement it into NetBSD and/or FreeBSD? Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 03:52:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA24647 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 03:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from picspc01.pics.com ([192.135.189.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA24639 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 03:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.135.189.21] (picsnt01.pics.com [192.135.189.21]) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA23364; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:52:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199601291152.GAA23364@picspc01.pics.com> To: Doug White , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: greetings Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:49:08 -0500 From: Terry Rossi X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -- [ From: Terry Rossi * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Doug, Thanks for this informative message, I just wanted to point out that in step #3 the tar command needs to have the z option. i.e.: cat ssys* |tar -zxvf - Thanks Again! Terry -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Sunday, 28-Jan-96 08:31 PM From: Doug White \ Internet: (dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu) To: Bob Ratliff \ Internet: (ratliff@fastlane.net) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG \ Internet: (questions@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: greetings On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Bob Ratliff wrote: > What is the name of the standare FreeBSD 4.4 release kernel? > I need to configure the mouse. I am reading the faq and my > kernel.GENERIC seems to not be a binary config file. It's not. Let's clarify: 1. The standard kernel installed by default is GENERIC, which is called ``kernel'' in your / directory. 2. ``kernel.GENERIC'' IS a compiled, ready-to-boot kernel. 3. If you want to build a new kernel, you need the kernel sources, aka the ``sys'' distribution. If you did not install this, you can fetch it from ftp.freebsd.org in /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/src/ssys.*. Download into a directory, su to root, cd /usr/src, cat ssys.* | tar xzf - to install the sources; then go into /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, copy LINT to MYKERNEL (or whatever you want to call it), and modify as you wish. Your new kernel config will be in flat text. 4. cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL; make depend && make, copy kernel to /, reboot, and have fun :) See the Handbook for more info. 5. FreeBSD uses a version scheme departed from the Berkley numbers, so the current release is 2.1. Hope this helps, and sorry if I went overboard :) You sound like you know about rebuilding kernels, but not the FreeBSD way. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 03:56:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA24778 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 03:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-19.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA24720 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 03:55:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA00678; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 03:55:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 03:55:50 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: FreeBSD Bugs cc: FreeBSD Questions , bugs@ardi.com, questions@ardi.com Subject: problems running Executor/Linux on FreeBSD? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm running Executor/Linux 1.99q on my FreeBSD (2.1R) box, using FreeBSD's Linux compatibility module. When I quit Executor, the processes do not die (i.e. they still remain running or maybe zombied -- I can't tell). For example: ncc-1701-d:24% ps aux | grep -i execu d_burr 18876 95.2 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) d_burr 522 86.2 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) d_burr 464 80.8 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) d_burr 396 64.8 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) d_burr 325 45.4 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) d_burr 324 0.0 0.0 4828 0 v0 IW 12:31AM 0:00.26 executor d_burr 395 0.0 0.0 4828 0 v0 IW 12:38AM 0:00.20 executor d_burr 463 0.0 0.0 4828 0 v0 IW 12:42AM 0:00.19 executor d_burr 521 0.0 0.0 4828 36 v0 IW 12:49AM 0:00.19 executor d_burr 18875 0.0 0.0 4828 292 v0 IW 1:22AM 0:00.22 executor I'm not quite sure where to point the proverbial finger here. Is this a FreeBSD bug, a Linux emulator bug, an Executor bug, or some bizarre combination? Any ideas on if it's fixable, or how to fix it? or if it will be fixed? I'd also like to put in a vote to the ARDI folks to get a FreeBSD-native version of Executor going -- it would fix little things like this (and maybe not so little things) and run much faster. Barring that, please continue to support the Linux a.out format -- FreeBSD probably won't be supporting ELF for a very long time, if at all. Thanks! Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 04:06:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA25277 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitsune.swcp.com (swcp.com [198.59.115.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA25267 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ftp.ardi.com (root@ftp.ardi.com [204.134.8.1]) by kitsune.swcp.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA09076; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 05:06:14 -0700 Received: from gwar.ardi.com by ftp.ardi.com with bsmtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tgsM7-0007qHC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 05:06 MST Received: from beaut.ardi.com by gwar.ardi.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tgsIn-000GXNC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 05:03 MST Received: by beaut.ardi.com (linux Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tgsIV-00027SC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 05:02 MST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 05:02 MST From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews) To: Donald Burr Cc: FreeBSD Bugs , FreeBSD Questions , bugs@ardi.com, questions@ardi.com Subject: Re: problems running Executor/Linux on FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Donald" == Donald Burr writes: Donald> I'm running Executor/Linux 1.99q on my FreeBSD (2.1R) box, Donald> using FreeBSD's Linux compatibility module. When I quit Donald> Executor, the processes do not die (i.e. they still remain Donald> running or maybe zombied -- I can't tell). For example: Donald> ncc-1701-d:24% ps aux | grep -i execu Donald> d_burr 18876 95.2 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) Donald> d_burr 522 86.2 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) Donald> d_burr 464 80.8 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) Donald> d_burr 396 64.8 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) Donald> d_burr 325 45.4 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) Donald> d_burr 324 0.0 0.0 4828 0 v0 IW 12:31AM 0:00.26 executor Donald> d_burr 395 0.0 0.0 4828 0 v0 IW 12:38AM 0:00.20 executor Donald> d_burr 463 0.0 0.0 4828 0 v0 IW 12:42AM 0:00.19 executor Donald> d_burr 521 0.0 0.0 4828 36 v0 IW 12:49AM 0:00.19 executor Donald> d_burr 18875 0.0 0.0 4828 292 v0 IW 1:22AM 0:00.22 executor Donald> I'm not quite sure where to point the proverbial finger Donald> here. Is this a FreeBSD bug, a Linux emulator bug, an Donald> Executor bug, or some bizarre combination? Any ideas on Donald> if it's fixable, or how to fix it? or if it will be Donald> fixed? This doesn't happen under Linux, so I'd guess it's a Linux emulator bug, perhaps caused by the fact that we're now using Linux's threads to do our sound work. I don't know if the FreeBSD Linux compatibility package supports sound. If it doesn't, you can try running "-nosound" and see if that helps. You can also try "-sockethack" when you start Executor, although I doubt that will help you out. Donald> I'd also like to put in a vote to the ARDI folks to get a Donald> FreeBSD-native version of Executor going -- it would fix Donald> little things like this (and maybe not so little things) Donald> and run much faster. Barring that, please continue to Donald> support the Linux a.out format -- FreeBSD probably won't Donald> be supporting ELF for a very long time, if at all. Priority #1 is for us to get Executor 2 out for our current set of support targets (DOS, NEXTSTEP, Linux/{X-Windows,SVGAlib}/{a.out,ELF}. Beyond that we'll be doing a native Windows '95 port, probably an OS/2 port and beyond that, who knows. The good news is that we already have so many ports that we'll be automating the release build process, which means that adding an unsupported FreeBSD port will probably be doable and done, but no guarantees. Donald> Thanks! Donald> Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Donald> Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / Donald> WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key Donald> available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Donald> Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** --Cliff ctm@ardi.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 05:17:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA00545 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 05:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-19.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA00521 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 05:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA01203; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 05:16:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 05:16:55 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: Barry Masterson , "Freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: Hylafax;uucp & dialer permissions. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > All you yave to do is edit /var/spool/fax/etc/config.cuaa1. Find a line > that starts with "DeviceMode:" and if one exists, change it's value to > 0666, otherwise if a line like that doesn't exist, just add one: > > DeviceMode: 0666 Ack. This is not good. Please DO NOT LISTEN to what I have said here, this could (at the least) cause unexpected behavior and (at the most) create a security hole. 0666 allows read/write for ALL permissions, which is not good (unless you want ever Joe Average User to read to or write from you modem port). DeviceMode 0660 should be sufficient (allows read/write for owner and group, NOTHING for world). Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 05:26:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA01350 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 05:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA01337 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 05:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id IAA28663; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:26:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:26:07 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: Donald Burr cc: "Freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: Hylafax;uucp & dialer permissions. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for responding. I changed the DeviceMode line to 000660. Just tested it out and the permissions held up. I'm the only real user here, except for two friends I added, and only I am in group dialer. I'll keep a look out for any unexpected behavior. Thank you Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---<---< On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > > > All you yave to do is edit /var/spool/fax/etc/config.cuaa1. Find a line > > that starts with "DeviceMode:" and if one exists, change it's value to > > 0666, otherwise if a line like that doesn't exist, just add one: > > > > DeviceMode: 0666 > > Ack. This is not good. Please DO NOT LISTEN to what I have said > here, this could (at the least) cause unexpected behavior and (at > the most) create a security hole. 0666 allows read/write for ALL > permissions, which is not good (unless you want ever Joe Average > User to read to or write from you modem port). DeviceMode 0660 should be > sufficient (allows read/write for owner and group, NOTHING for world). > > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 06:32:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA05285 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05244 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:31:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24174 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:31:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from westhub (westhub.mnet.uswest.com [148.156.21.6]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA01235 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:39:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by westhub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Message-Id: Date: 29 Jan 1996 07:28:06 U From: "Owen Newnan" Subject: correction- ctwm To: "questions about FreeBSD" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 GM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: Time:7:14 AM OFFICE MEMO correction- ctwm Date:1/29/96 I incorrectly stated that X User Tools (by Mui and Quercia, O'Reilly and associated) discusses ctwm. It IS a good tutorial / reference, and does devote 140 pages to other wm's: twm, tvtwm, mwm, olwm and fvwm. It also includes a CD with sources From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 06:50:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA06293 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:50:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from csmd.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd.cs.uni-magdeburg.de [141.44.22.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06245 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:49:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601291449.GAA06245@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from csmd39.cs.uni-magdeburg.de by csmd.cs.uni-magdeburg.de with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA26244; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:46:13 +0100 Received: by csmd39.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA010336772; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:46:12 +0100 From: Roland Jesse Subject: conflicting types for `wchar_t' To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:46:12 +0100 (MEZ) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: conflicting types for `wchar_t' Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Organization: Univ. of Magdeburg, CS Dept, Germany Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] How may I avoid the error that `wchar_t' is previous declared when in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h is this line: typedef unsigned long wchar_t; and in /usr/include/stdlib.h this one: typedef _BSD_WCHAR_T_ wchar_t; ??? Both header files are needed. So how to avoid this error? (BTW: same procedure with `sys_errlist'...) Thanks for any help. -- Roland (rj,-) Jesse, stud.rer.nat. et phil. URL: http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~jesse/ E-Mail: jesse@csmd.cs.uni-magdeburg.de - pgp encrypted mail preferred - From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 06:56:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA06640 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from tad.cetlink.net (tad-external.cetlink.net [206.31.104.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06632 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tad.cetlink.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA10658 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:59:22 -0500 From: Jeffrey Wheat Message-Id: <199601291459.JAA10658@tad.cetlink.net> Subject: Binary compatibilty with netbsd/bsdi? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:59:21 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is there binary compatibilty with NetBSD and BSDI in FreeBSD? If so, how do I activate it? Thanks in advance... -jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 07:18:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA07731 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07710 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA17743; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:19:07 +0100 Message-Id: <199601291519.QAA17743@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: greetings To: tpr@pics.com (Terry Rossi) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:19:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601291152.GAA23364@picspc01.pics.com> from "Terry Rossi" at Jan 29, 96 06:49:08 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > -- [ From: Terry Rossi * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > > Doug, > > Thanks for this informative message, I just wanted to point out that in > step #3 the tar command needs to have the z option. i.e.: It had in the original message ( tar xzf ) :-) > cat ssys* |tar -zxvf - > > Thanks Again! > > Terry > > -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > > Date: Sunday, 28-Jan-96 08:31 PM > > From: Doug White \ Internet: > (dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu) > To: Bob Ratliff \ Internet: (ratliff@fastlane.net) > cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG \ Internet: (questions@freebsd.org) > > Subject: Re: greetings > > On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Bob Ratliff wrote: > > > What is the name of the standare FreeBSD 4.4 release kernel? > > I need to configure the mouse. I am reading the faq and my > > kernel.GENERIC seems to not be a binary config file. > > It's not. > > Let's clarify: > > 1. The standard kernel installed by default is GENERIC, which is called > ``kernel'' in your / directory. > > 2. ``kernel.GENERIC'' IS a compiled, ready-to-boot kernel. > > 3. If you want to build a new kernel, you need the kernel sources, aka the > ``sys'' distribution. If you did not install this, you can fetch it from > ftp.freebsd.org in /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/src/ssys.*. Download into a > directory, su to root, cd /usr/src, cat ssys.* | tar xzf - to install the > sources; then go into /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, copy LINT to MYKERNEL (or > whatever you want to call it), and modify as you wish. Your new kernel > config will be in flat text. > > 4. cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL; make depend && make, copy kernel to /, > reboot, and have fun :) See the Handbook for more info. > > 5. FreeBSD uses a version scheme departed from the Berkley numbers, so the > current release is 2.1. > > Hope this helps, and sorry if I went overboard :) You sound like you know > about rebuilding kernels, but not the FreeBSD way. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > > -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 07:21:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA07966 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from border.com (janus.border.com [199.71.190.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07957 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by janus.border.com id <20491>; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:26:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:20:46 -0500 From: Jerry Kendall To: Robert Burns <103302.2176@compuserve.com> Cc: FreeBsd Subject: Re: SyQuest SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: <960129023325_103302.2176_IHH49-1@CompuServe.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <96Jan29.102647est.20491@janus.border.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Robert Burns wrote: I am running a SyQuest EZ135 External SCSI drive at home.... It is NOT my boot drive but it will function as a boot drive because the system thinks it is a 'standard hard disk' that just happens to be removable.... I even managed to get ti setup as my primary drive but changed my setup because I wanted it to be usable as a backup device also..... BTW: I got the drive from a MAC WareHouse for less than I would have gotten it as ANY PC supplier.... > > Hi there, > > I have noticed alot of people asking questions about Freebsd support of SyQuest > drives but I haven't seen anything concrete. Has someone managed to boot from a > SyQuest drive installed as a second hard drive. > > I went through the entire 2.0.5 install process successfully but when I came to > boot off sd(1,a)/kernel, I got a repeated error message.... > > ERROR: C:0 H:0 S:0 > > What's up? Anyone have the solution yet. I am not subscribed to the mailing list > so please resond directly. > > Robert Burns > 103302.2176@compuserve.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any comments or opinions in this message are my own and may or may not reflect the comments or opinions of my present or previous employers. Jerry Kendall Border Network Technologies Inc. System Software Engineer Tel +1-416-368-7157 ext 303 jerry@border.com Fax +1-416-368-7178 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 07:56:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09756 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from tower.stc.housing.washington.edu (tower.stc.housing.washington.edu [128.95.25.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09744 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from caj@localhost) by tower.stc.housing.washington.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA00509 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:56:03 -0800 From: Craig Johnston Message-Id: <199601291556.HAA00509@tower.stc.housing.washington.edu> Subject: various questions To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:56:02 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I have a number of questions regarding FreeBSD: I run FreeBSD on a system with an Asus SP3G mboard, with an amd dx4-100 cpu, and the latest flash bios version. I have 256k cache, and also do have the tag SRAM installed. (this is what it is called? tag-dirty-some- thing-or-other.. the extra piece of SRAM that is supposed to make write-back work ok.) I use the onboard NCR chip and a PCI NIC. (a Boca thingie with the AMD chip that seems to give me too many overruns. The general consensus is that early versions of this card are massively broken, no?) Anyway -- which PCI optimisations in the chipset settings for this motherboard may I safely enable? I currently have all of them except 'PCI posted write' enabled -- PCI to DRAM caching, PCI burst write, etc. I had a random reboot with absolutely no messages at some point after turning on the posted write, which may or may not be related, but I turned it off to be safe. Is it ok, and beneficial to turn these on? I was also told ISA GAT should be off, this is correct? Wish I had more info on the random reboot, but I could find not even a single burp in /var/log/messages, and nothing popped up on the screen before it happened. I was making Octave at the time. (which takes a damn long time!) If someone thinks it would be useful, I'll give full info on my kernel config and system, but it doesn't really look likely there will be enough info without even a diagnostic message to go on. Are there any tweaks for this mboard under FreeBSD? Should I fiddle with PCI latencies, etc? I don't know what half the chipset options mean, and who ever thought of actually documenting a motherboard. :( Second question -- are FreeBSD 2.1 binaries in the distribution compiled with -m486 and other optimisations? Or should I go back and do this? I'm mostly concerned about the shells, window managers and the Xserver. Another question: is it likely there is much I can strip from my kernel besides disabling various things in my kernel config file that will make it smaller? I've got 32 megs in this box but I am concerned with the amt of memory FreeBSD seems to eat, and would like to eliminate every unecessary byte everywhere I can.. perhaps a pointer to info on stripping down FreeBSD? I've already gotten rid of all unecessary daemons etc. and stripped my config file to the bone. (didn't remove npx0 tho.. ;) ) When I do a 'top' under FreeBSD, what exactly do 'active', 'inactive', and 'wired' mean? Wired I take to mean is kernel memory, would this be correct? I am not familar with this terminology.. I'm new to things BSD'ish in general. If any of these things are covered anywhere you can point me to (on the net) please do and don't waste any of your time explaining them. Finally, kudos to the core team -- I am absolutely blown away by this OS. I was running Linux previously, which I liked, but the whole thing was sort of starting to scare me -- nothing specific, just a general "string and chewing gum" feel. From the install onwards FreeBSD had a tight, well-engineered feel that's giving me major warm fuzzies and the performance (esp. disk) is wonderful. Thank you! TIA, craig. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 08:01:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA09989 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from perkunas.omnitel.net (perkunas.omnitel.net [205.244.196.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09971 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from din05.omnitel.net by perkunas.omnitel.net (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35766; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:04:59 -0600 Posted-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:07:35 +0200 Message-Id: <310CF0C7.B7B@post.omnitel.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:07:35 +0200 From: Darius Ramanauskas Organization: TDD Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: MAIL & Network Card X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Thank you for the working on such fine system like freebsd .. I like it, but :-(( Q1: What about Mail in FreeBSD: I mean SMTP/POP3/USENET Servers ? Q2: Where I can find drivers for my net card: HP PC LAN ...? Thanx. P.S. Please don't beat me, I am new in Unix administration. I am going to build Internet WWW server and will have some mail boxes, so please help my !!!! Bye Dara From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 08:24:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA11316 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10843 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01943; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:11:43 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:11:43 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Migrating Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! A question which I somewhy haven't noticed and so I have to ask it myself, as it unfortunately isn't clear to me: How can one migrate from one disk to another? The situation is as follows: 1. Present: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE residing on a 500MB IDE hard disk. 2. Future (desired): a) FreeBSD 2.1.0 residing on a 2GB SCSI HDD (may take all of it so no DOS is left). b) No (major) changes to the programs/user data/passwords :) Thnx, Sander. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 08:28:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA11645 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11636 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA25453 ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:28:27 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Darius Ramanauskas cc: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Palmer Subject: Re: MAIL & Network Card In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:07:35 +0200." <310CF0C7.B7B@post.omnitel.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:28:27 -0800 Message-ID: <25451.822932907@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Darius Ramanauskas wrote in message ID <310CF0C7.B7B@post.omnitel.net>: > Q1: > What about Mail in FreeBSD: I mean SMTP/POP3/USENET Servers ? SMTP - sendmail 8.6.12 comes included in 2.1.0-RELEASE. Its the de-facto standard mailer for the internet POP3 - check the ports collection for popper USENET - There is INN1.4SEC2 in ports, but I'd recommend INN 1.4 unoff3. You'll have to look for the latter, I can't remember where I found it. > Q2: > Where I can find drivers for my net card: HP PC LAN ...? Sorry, dunno. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 09:11:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA14353 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14346 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA32202 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:13:49 -0500 Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa23137; 29 Jan 96 12:14 EST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:14:12 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: Jeffrey Wheat cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Binary compatibilty with netbsd/bsdi? In-Reply-To: <199601291459.JAA10658@tad.cetlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Jeffrey Wheat wrote: > Hi, > > Is there binary compatibilty with NetBSD and BSDI in FreeBSD? If > so, how do I activate it? Thanks in advance... > I run the BSDI binary for cuseeme reflector, and it just worked as is without having ot do anything. I use freebsd 2.1-R From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 09:38:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA16490 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16472 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA03732; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:35:56 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601291735.KAA03732@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: problems running Executor/Linux on FreeBSD? To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:35:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bugs@ardi.com, questions@ardi.com In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Jan 29, 96 03:55:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm running Executor/Linux 1.99q on my FreeBSD (2.1R) box, using > FreeBSD's Linux compatibility module. When I quit Executor, the > processes do not die (i.e. they still remain running or maybe zombied -- > I can't tell). For example: > > ncc-1701-d:24% ps aux | grep -i execu > d_burr 18876 95.2 0.1 0 0 v0 Z - 0:00.00 (executor) [ ... ] > > I'm not quite sure where to point the proverbial finger here. Is this a > FreeBSD bug, a Linux emulator bug, an Executor bug, or some bizarre > combination? Any ideas on if it's fixable, or how to fix it? or if it > will be fixed? I have an idea, but I don't know exactly what needs to be done. I suspect it's the alternate signal handling code sending a Linux style SIGCHLD to a BSD style parent process. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 09:44:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA16877 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:44:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16864 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA03756; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:41:16 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601291741.KAA03756@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Openwin? To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:41:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, kclark@huber.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601270239.AA14888@tera.com> from "Gary Kline" at Jan 26, 96 06:39:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > There is a new motif clone being written by > someone at--I think--the U of Idaho. Lesstif. > Should be well past alpha by now... It's not. It runs some minor code and will compile and link (but not run) about 75% of the code from the net. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 09:46:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA16980 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16971 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA03766; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:44:25 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601291744.KAA03766@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Is there plans to implement ELF into FreeBSD/NetBSD? Linux has it. To: kallio@beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:44:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, questions@netbsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Jan 29, 96 12:56:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I did search FAQ etc. on www.freebsd.org but fould nothing about ELF. > > Is there plans to implement it into NetBSD and/or FreeBSD? What do you feel is the compelling reason to support ELF instead of a.out as the native binary format? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:05:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA18201 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18192 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (root@pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA11631 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:04:28 -0800 Received: (from didier@localhost) by zapata.omnix.fr.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA04014; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:20:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:20:10 +0100 (MET) From: didier@omnix.fr.org To: Gary Crutcher cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISA to PCI switch In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960128195345.2c2f4832@nightflight.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk the aha2940 or aha2940w works fine you only have to swap the boards. I've been using a aha2940 for 4 month with FreeBSD 2.1-stable without any problems. I've just installed a aha2940w with a 2Gb on a pentium 133 machine, everything works fine with FreeBSD 2.1-stable On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Gary Crutcher wrote: > Hi, > > I currently am using FBSD v2.1 and have the following as my SCSI controller > card: > > Adaptec AHA-1542CF HD Controller Card > > Can I switch to a PCI (Adaptec) controller card without having to reformat > or re-install FBSD v2.1? > > Is this just a swap-the-card scenario? > > Is the driver for the Adaptec PCI controller card stable? I have seen > spurious e-mail about the PCI driver for the Adaptec card. > > Thanks, > > Gary > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com > Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com > 'Flights throughout the Internet' Voice/FAX: 619-631-7885 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- Didier Derny | My computer is Microsoft Free and Bug Free didier@aida.org | I'm running FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:09:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA18470 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pixi.com (phoenix.pixi.com [204.182.46.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18458 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from TERRA (godzilla24.pixi.com [140.174.243.185]) by mail.pixi.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) with SMTP id IAA03852 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:08:35 -1000 Message-ID: <310D0B1A.5FA2@pixi.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:59:54 -1000 From: Terrance Young X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: SoundCard and SCSI Compat. X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/latest/notes.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just purchased a Smart & friendly Multimedia package which includes a SoundCard with SCSI (Future Domain) and SCSI CD ROM. I Actually got the Multimedia package mostly for the CD ROM because the Price was a lot cheaper to buy than a SCSI CD ROM by itself (Store Going out of Business sale). I was trying to install the 2.1 release of FreeBSD and ran into some problems I was able to start the install from the CD ROM and could not access the CD ROM for the ROOT Portion so I used a ROOT Floppy to complete this part I however was not able to get the CD ROM to work after I tried to go further in the install it couldn't access the CD ROM. I would at least like to try before having to purchase a SCSI card for the CD ROM to work. I am kind of new to UNIX itself and wanted to use FreeBSD I did do a working install of 2.05 from a DOS Partition and wanted to try using the CD ROM because of space limitations. Any help would be appreciated or if you need more information please E-mail me. Thanks Terrance teryoung@pixi.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:10:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA18590 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:10:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18585 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA01015; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:06:48 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:06:47 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jeffrey Wheat cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Binary compatibilty with netbsd/bsdi? In-Reply-To: <199601291459.JAA10658@tad.cetlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Jeffrey Wheat wrote: > Is there binary compatibilty with NetBSD and BSDI in FreeBSD? If > so, how do I activate it? Thanks in advance... Should work with no other conversion. BSDi 2.0 won't work, I think. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:13:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA18850 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18843 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id NAA10049; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:12:34 -0500 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199601291812.NAA10049@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth SE VLB.. screwy fonts To: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (Werner Griessl) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:12:33 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601241545.QAA04599@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> from "Werner Griessl" at Jan 24, 96 04:45:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > diamond stealth SE VLB. This one has one meg of dram and the S3 Trio32 > > chip on it ( 86C732-P ). It seems to be nice and fast but the fonts on > > it are screwed up. > > Try to comment out the Type1-fonts in your XF86config. > # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" I found the problem and the solution. The XF86_S3 server that comes with the CD does not support the new cards fonts. I got the new server from ftp.xfree86.org:/pub/XFree86/3.1.2B/FreeBSD-2.0.5. Here is an extract from the release notes: 2.6. S3 server o Workaround for the hardware bug in some new Trio32 chips that causes font corruption. To enable this workaround, add the following line to the Device section of your XF86Config: Option "trio32_fc_bug" This is one for the database -branson -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | work: e.b.matheson@larc.nasa.gov CSC SysAdmin | http://longstreet.larc.nasa.gov/~branson (w) 804-864-9700 |all other: ebm@visi.net *** I am getting a NEW job at Ferguson Enterprises. Please send *** *** all mail to my ebm@visi.net address after Feb 1, 1996. *** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:23:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA19535 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from telco.com (mail.telco.com [192.190.11.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19516 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by firewall.telco.com id <85763>; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:18:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:16:19 -0500 From: Mark Maguire X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems booting FreeBSD or Windows 95 X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org//mailto.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <96Jan29.131824est.85763@firewall.telco.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk To: FreeBSD Technical Support Yesterday I installed FreeBSD on a new drive (d:), using the DOS partition installation procedure. This was because my CDROM (TEAC) was not supported. The installation seemed to go OK but I'm having a problem booting to the FreeBSD OS or to Windows 95, which is on the C: drive. During the installation of FreeBSD I also selected the BootMgr option, but it doesn't seem to be working. Instead there is a line (approx.msg.) insert boot diskette in drive a:, which keeps coming up. What I need to know is how to get rid of this so that I can select between booting Windows95 from the C: drive or FreeBSD from the D: drive? Also are you planning on supporting the Teac 4x CDROM in future releases? Thank You, Mark Maguire From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:23:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA19593 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19588 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA01039; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:20:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:20:57 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Seppo Kallio cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there plans to implement ELF into FreeBSD/NetBSD? Linux has it. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Seppo Kallio wrote: > I did search FAQ etc. on www.freebsd.org but fould nothing about ELF. > Is there plans to implement it into NetBSD and/or FreeBSD? AFAIK, Not at this time in FreeBSD. Don't quote me on that, I'm not subscribed to hackers. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:32:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20362 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20352 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA03861; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:29:44 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601291829.LAA03861@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Just like... To: Julienlamy@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:29:44 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <960127095350_407809731@mail04.mail.aol.com> from "Julienlamy@aol.com" at Jan 27, 96 09:53:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Julien Lamy to questions@freebsd.org > > from what I've understood of your FreeBSB, it's just like Windows95 isn't it > ? Here's a little list: Win95 FreeBSD Protected mode OS Yes(1) Yes Runs DOS programs Yes(2) Yes(3) Comes with C compiler No Yes Comes with C++ compiler No Yes Preemptive multitasking Yes(4) Yes Promotes more Microsoft products Yes No Can act as SMB server Yes(5) Yes Can act as AppleTalk server No(6) Yes Can act as NFS server No(6) Yes Can act as HTTP server Yes(9) Yes(10) Can act as LPR server No(6) Yes Can act as SQL server No Yes Can act as Telnet server No(6) Yes Can act as FTP server No(6) Yes Can act as Rlogin server No Yes Supports NFSv3 No Yes Can act as SMB client Yes Yes(7) Can act a AppleTalk client No(6) Yes(7) Can act as NFS client Yes(8) Yes Can act as HTTP client Yes Yes Can act as LPR client Yes(8) Yes Can act as SQL client Yes Yes Can act as Telnet client Yes Yes Can act as FTP client Yes Yes Can act as Rlogin client No(15) Yes Graphical environment Yes(11) Yes(12) Multiple users Yes(13) Yes Threads environment Yes(14) Yes (1) Comes up in real mode, uses VM86() to run real mode drivers (2) Some incompatabilities exist because of flaws in the VMM design (3) With the optional "PCEMU" package (4) When running 16 bit applications or DOS windows, preemption is defeated for backward compatability (5) Does not support "browse master" configuration because of potential intrusion into NT market niche (6) Third party products costing extra are in alpha testing (7) Using a client program because of differences in authentication model making an FS implementation nearly useless (or very hard) (8) Third party products costing extra are available now (9) Task model severely limits performance (10) Runs NetScape "NetSite" and "Commerce" servers, comes with several free implementations, all high performance (11) Mandatory, Microsoft's choice (12) Optional, user's choice (13) Not simultaneously (14) Not POSIX compliant (15) Can't vouchsafe because user may be cracker Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:34:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20476 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20434 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA03878; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:31:13 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601291831.LAA03878@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Sun refugee (BSD-bigot) seeks OS for Pentium Pro system.... To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:31:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601282309.JAA08285@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jan 29, 96 09:39:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > 1. Will a MP system work with freebsd with one processor OK, and > > multiprocessors? Is the MP support planned in the future (or currently > > supported) and what type (spreading out the processes or, having a multi- > > threading compiler and kernel) > > Yes, FreeBSD runs happily on one processor in an MP system. MP support > exists in some shape, and its direction is largely dependant on having > someone take control of the project and drive it forwards. Actually, it wants the locore.s changes that Peter Wemm was working on, after which low grain parallelism can be integrated. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 10:36:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20742 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20731 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA03937; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:34:08 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601291834.LAA03937@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Token-Ring & IPX support? To: qtech@ts.umu.se (Joakim Ögren) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:34:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <310C1500.4EA4@ts.umu.se> from "Joakim Ögren" at Jan 28, 96 11:29:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Linux doesn't support IPX over Token-Ring. > > Does FreeBSD support it? > If yes, you've got yourself another FreeBSD fan :-) FreeBSD doesn't support token ring. You could hack the support with 3 additional minor functions on top of the existing 802.3 LLC code and writing a driver for your card. It's just that no one owns token ring, and it costs so much to get the necessary equipment that unless you are a major corporation, and are already locked into IBM, you aren't going to be buying it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 11:09:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA22534 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pulm1.accessone.com (root@pulm1.accessone.com [198.68.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22526 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from zing (zing.accessone.com) by pulm1.accessone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17220; Mon, 29 Jan 96 11:09:59 PST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 11:09:59 PST Message-Id: <9601291909.AA17220@pulm1.accessone.com> X-Sender: zing@accessone.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Wilkins Subject: questions related to getting freeBSD to boot from HD after install Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk 1) Does freeBSD 2.1 support a translating BIOS or do I need to disable that? I have three EIDE drives, (540 MB, 1.2 GB, 1.2 GB) and want to be able to run both Windows 95 and freeBSD. I think Windows needs either a translating BIOS or software to enable it to use the larger hard drives. If freeBSD does not support a translating BIOS, then I guess I will need to install Western Digital's ontrack software that comes with their drives. 2) Does the freeBSD 2.1 install have a problem with putting the boot manager on a different disk than the one that I am installing freeBSD onto? I am trying to install freeBSD onto part of disk E:(1.2 GB). I want to have a 511 MB DOS partion on it and freeBSD on the rest. If I understand correctly, the boot manager needs to go on at the beginning of drive C:(540 MB). What do I need to do to insure that this happens? 3) Are there any special problems trying to have freeBSD coexist with Windows 95? Win 95 is already installed. My system: Pentium 90 Intel motherboard 24 MB RAM Mitsumi 2X CD-ROM connected through SB16 USR 28.8 Sportster internal modem Diamond Stealth 64 2MB DRAM I would greatly appreciate any suggestions/help/solutions that people have to offer. Thanks Chris Wilkins zing@pacificws.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 11:21:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA23635 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23628 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA02553 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:20:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199601291920.AA02553@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:20:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: Donald Burr "Linux-emu, Netscape, and DNS: how to get them to cooperate?" (Jan 27, 2:06) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Donald Burr Subject: Re: Linux-emu, Netscape, and DNS: how to get them to cooperate? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 27, 2:06, Donald Burr wrote: } Subject: Linux-emu, Netscape, and DNS: how to get them to cooperate? } I'm running FreeBSD 2.1 with the Linux-emu. I just installed Netscape } for Linux, because I want to play around with Java stuff. BUT, Netscape } CANNOT access the DNS server, ergo it's always returning errors like } "home.netscape.com host unknown", etc. } } I have a proper host.conf and resolv.conf file in /compat/linux/etc. I } EVEN HAVE TRIED MOVING THESE INTO /etc. But no success. } } What's going wrong here? can someone help me out with getting this } running? I'm losing my mind!!! } } On a side note, according to the available doc's on the Linux-emu, } whenever a Linux [program or library tries to access a file, the } Linux-emu is supposed to add "/compat/linux" to it, i.e. if the program } asks for "/etc/hosts", the it actually accesses } "/compat/linux/etc/hosts". This DOES NOT seem to be the case, though, } because even though I put a Linux-style host.conf in } /compat/linux/etc/host.conf, the Linux resolv+ library always says } "invalid keyword hosts" (meaning it's referring to the FreeBSD } /etc/host.conf file!). What gives here? Add the following line to /etc/profile: RESOLV_HOST_CONF=/compat/linux/etc/host.conf; export RESOLV_HOST_CONF This will make the Linux resolver library use Linux version of the config file ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 12:00:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA26685 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebu.serv.net (zebu.serv.net [199.201.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26647 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by zebu.serv.net (5.65+UW94.7/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24777; Mon, 29 Jan 96 11:57:32 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 11:57:32 -0800 From: "Sean T. Lamont" Message-Id: <9601291957.AA24777@zebu.serv.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Hints on network dropping Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there. I have been experiencing problems with a FreeBSD system dropping its network connection entirely. It's a fairly high trafficked httpd server, and that's about it. It's an ASUS P133 motherboard with an NE2000 clone network card and an IDE disk system. What happens is, for about 10 minutes at a time (at least once per day) the network will drop entirely ; the site isn't ping'able, no logging occurs on the http server. In about 10 minutes, it comes up and runs fine. I'm at somewhat of a loss here since I have an identical kernel running on our news server, which has some extended resources like processes. It almost sounds like a driver problem, but as I said, the NE2000 clone is working fine for us on the other server. Any hints for me before I consider swapping out OS's? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 12:22:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA29600 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from horst.bfd.com ([204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA29584 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08974 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:19:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:24:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: printcap question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I realize that there's probably a more appropriate place for this question, but I can't find it. How do you combine input filters and remote printers? I've heard that if you use an rm field in your printcap, that filters are ignored. This is the way my installation is behaving (2.1R). Problem is, my printer is an HP4+ with a JetDirect card, so it can't do its own printer filters. Right now, I'm handling this by having the input filter pipe data to lpr with a seperate queue set up to send the data to the remote printer. Is there a nicer way to do this? Either by using a printcap field that stuffs the data into another queue rather than forcing the filter to do it, or by letting me use filters and remote printers in the same definition. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 12:29:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00317 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-img-5.compuserve.com (dub-img-5.compuserve.com [198.4.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00307 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by dub-img-5.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id PAA15233; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:29:14 -0500 Date: 29 Jan 96 15:25:15 EST From: Adrian Neville <101603.1662@compuserve.com> To: freebsd-questions Subject: FreeBSD 2.0.5 and Mach64 graphics card Message-ID: <960129202515_101603.1662_JHP90-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Firstly thanks to all those who replied to my last question, The reason i was taking things out of the kernel was because when booting the monitor blanked then powered off and i had to reset the system. Investigation shows that if i have a sio device in the kernel i can't boot, the sio and mach64 card seem to clash. I only have e-mail access ot the internet normally but yesterday did get a look at the freebsd search page and it seems a number of people have had the same problem, but i couldn't find an answer. I have a ATI Mach64 graphics card with 1mb onboard ram, the mouse is connected to COM1 irq 4, there is a COM2 irq 3 but i have only defined sio0 in the kernel. If i boot with ANY sio devices in the kernel the monitor blanks then powers off just after loading the kernel. Does any one know how i can get the serial ports working ? Sorry to have to keep asking, Thanks Adrian e-mail 101603.1662@compuserv.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 12:30:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00443 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw3.att.com (gw4.att.com [204.179.186.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00425 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihlpf.UUCP by ig4.att.att.com id AA27843; Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:23:13 EST Message-Id: <9601292023.AA27843@ig4.att.att.com> From: kav@ihlpf.att.com (Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261) Date: 29 Jan 96 11:16:00 -0600 Cc: mpf@marconi.att.com (Michael P Foley) Original-From: ihlpf!kav (Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261) To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Original-Cc: marconi!mpf (Michael P Foley) Subject: Problems installing 2.1 CDROM Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk We are trying to install the 2.1 CDROM release on a SAG Pentium (Triton motherboard) 133 Mhz, 16MB with the following hardware: Adaptec AHA2940W Sony CDU-76S SCSI-2 CD-ROM Segate ST15150W SCSI-2 hard drive SMC9332DST 10/100MB PCI Adapter Diamond Stealth 64 Sound Blaster AWE 32 sound card During the boot we notice that the probe for CD-ROM drive the following is reported: UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 not ready to ready transition: medium may have changed Then, if we proceed with the installation, we can get into the installation menu system and configure the FreeBSD partitions. When we continue with the installation, we get a kernel panic when the installation trys to start loading from the CD-ROM. The amusing panic is: "Going nowhere without my init!" which appears to be from kern/kern_exit.c Thanks, Kurt Vangsness AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Il kav@ihlpf.ih.att.com P.S. I noticed that there doesn't appear to be a way to look at the kernel boot probe messages from the installation menu anymore. I remember that an older version allowed you to do that and I found it very useful in cases such as this problem. Is it still there but just hidden somehow? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 12:33:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00727 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00721 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:33:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.noc.netcom.net (ns3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA13307 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:33:39 -0800 Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [206.215.142.10]) by ns3.noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA07992 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:31:52 -0800 Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0-206) id AA07735; Mon, 29 Jan 96 12:31:31 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601292031.AA07735@tera.com> Subject: setting system time To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:31:44 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In the unlikely event that anybody else has bumped into the problem of correctly setting the local system time, one way is to siimply put the TZ= ; export TZ into /etc/rc. There may be other, ``more correct'' ways. But this works. gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 13:17:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA04171 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from blitzen.canberra.edu.au (root@blitzen.canberra.edu.au [137.92.11.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04119 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from blitzen.canberra.edu.au (chau@blitzen.canberra.edu.au [137.92.11.168]) by blitzen.canberra.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA03967 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:17:23 +1100 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:17:22 +1100 (EST) From: "C.M" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: CDROM SUPPORT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was just wondering that would FREEBSD support NEC CDR-271 cdrom which i connected to my eide not through the soundblaster. My current system is Pentium 75 with 16mb with Award Bios 4.50g. If you have any information please advise me, any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 13:25:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA05191 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.gnofn.org (www.gnofn.org [199.181.71.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05179 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.gnofn.org (www.gnofn.org [199.181.71.9]) by www.gnofn.org (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id PAA05111 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:28:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:28:22 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Cash To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installation Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I am trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 on my computer and I am having some problems. I have a laptop connected to a docking station. The docking station has a 1.2 GB fixed disk drive (known as PEANUT) and a Toshiba 4x CD-ROM drive. It seems that the CD-ROM is unsupported by FreeBSD, althought I am not certain of this. In the laptop, I have a 500 MB fixed disk drive (known as GRAMPS). Currently, I have 482 MB of GRAMPS allocated as C: for Windows 95 and 400 MB of PEANUT allocated as D: for Windows 95. I left 800 MB of PEANUT free for the BSD install. I had to copy a good deal of the dists to C: to install BSD, but that seemed to finally work. However, the boot manager does not seem to work. The only noticeable change to the system after BSD has been installed is that the C: partition on GRAMPS has been made inactive and my only choice is to boot from flopopy and use fdisk to set that partition to be active, since my computer will not boot from a fixed disk without an active partition. And in my BIOS, my only boot options are "A:, C:" or "C:, A:". And when I set the C: partition to be the active partition, my computer just boots right into Windows 95 and doesn't seem to be aware that the might FreeBSD is even in its midst... Any ideas? The only thing I have not tried is to repartition GRAMPS so that C: becomes about 382 MB and I make a 100 MB partition for the core stuff of FreeBSD (could I get away with a smaller space?) on GRAMPS so that both are able to boot from GRAMPS. Then I could devote the large partition on PEANUT to the rest of FreeBSD...so should I go to the trouble to repartition GRAMPS or is this not the answer? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for your attention to my problem. I can't wait to ge FreeBSD up and running! Sincerely, Dave Cash _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\_/T\_/E\_/A\_/C\_/H\_/L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\_/T\_/E\_/A\_/C\_/H\ Dave Cash Power to the People! Free-Net Free Agent in My Free Time Right On-Line! dcash@gnofn.org Dig it all. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 13:36:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA06232 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:36:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06211 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA06473; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:35:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:35:35 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601292135.AA06473@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: setting system time In-Reply-To: <9601292031.AA07735@tera.com> References: <9601292031.AA07735@tera.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < In the unlikely event that anybody else has bumped into > the problem of correctly setting the local system time, > one way is to siimply put the TZ= ; export TZ > into /etc/rc. This is not a very good thing to do. (by which I assume you mean the SysV-style XXX9YYY goop) is very poorly defined, and many parts of the world have timezone rules of sufficient complexity that this is simply insufficient. The correct way to set the local timezone is the following: Either 1) run tzsetup(8) or 2) rm -f /etc/localtime; cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/your/time/zone /etc/localtime `your/time/zone' is of the form `region/city', where `region' is usually a continent or ocean, and `city' is the name of the most populous city in the zone. For example, the US Eastern Time zone file is called `America/New_York'; the version of Central European Time practiced in Germany is called `Europe/Berlin', and so on. If the file for your country and zone gives incorrect results, please file a problem report. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 13:55:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA07622 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07606 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA03805 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:54:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199601292154.AA03805@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:54:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: Craig Johnston "various questions" (Jan 29, 7:56) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Craig Johnston Subject: Re: various questions Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 29, 7:56, Craig Johnston wrote: } Subject: various questions } } Hello. I have a number of questions regarding FreeBSD: } } I run FreeBSD on a system with an Asus SP3G mboard, with an amd dx4-100 } cpu, and the latest flash bios version. I have 256k cache, and also do } have the tag SRAM installed. (this is what it is called? tag-dirty-some- } thing-or-other.. the extra piece of SRAM that is supposed to make } write-back work ok.) I use the onboard NCR chip and a PCI NIC. (a Boca } thingie with the AMD chip that seems to give me too many overruns. The } general consensus is that early versions of this card are massively broken, } no?) Can't comment on the Boca ... Is this a Lance based card ? That should work just fine ... } Anyway -- which PCI optimisations in the chipset settings for this } motherboard may I safely enable? I currently have all of them except } 'PCI posted write' enabled -- PCI to DRAM caching, PCI burst write, etc. } I had a random reboot with absolutely no messages at some point after } turning on the posted write, which may or may not be related, but I } turned it off to be safe. Is it ok, and beneficial to turn these on? } I was also told ISA GAT should be off, this is correct? Since I got the same motherboard (just without Dirty Tag RAM), and once read the Saturn technical data book, I guess I should respond ... :) The Saturn II in the SP3G can be savely used with all PCI options enabled. I.e. the PCI posted write option should not cause any trouble ... ISA GAT can cause problems with ISA DMA (e.g. if there is a sound card in the system). It should be disabled! } Wish I had more info on the random reboot, but I could find not even } a single burp in /var/log/messages, and nothing popped up on the screen } before it happened. I was making Octave at the time. (which takes a damn } long time!) If someone thinks it would be useful, I'll give full info } on my kernel config and system, but it doesn't really look likely there } will be enough info without even a diagnostic message to go on. Well, it may have been a random DRAM error. I do not like the fact, that the SP3G doesn't support parity, though the Saturn chip set does, and it would have been a no extra cost option. } Are there any tweaks for this mboard under FreeBSD? Should I fiddle with PCI } latencies, etc? I don't know what half the chipset options mean, and } who ever thought of actually documenting a motherboard. :( The PCI latency timer is only useful to prevent several PCI bus masters from locking out each other. There is some maximum time, that an I/O card can buffer data received (e.g. 50 micro seconds for some Ethernet cards) and if the card would not be granted access to the PCI bus within this time, a input buffer overrun would occur and the packets contents was lost ... Since the latency is measured in bus clocks and even the short time of 50us is equivalent to some 1500 PCI bus cycles, there should not be much of a problem. With a (typical) latency timer setting of 80, there could be nearly 20 PCI chips competing for the bus. (To be sure, I'd consider 10 devices the maximum with that latency timer value, though.) It only really matters if you got something like 3 4channel Ethernet cards and an Adpatec 3940 in your system :) } Second question -- are FreeBSD 2.1 binaries in the distribution compiled } with -m486 and other optimisations? Or should I go back and do this? } I'm mostly concerned about the shells, window managers and the Xserver. I generally do such a recompilation. } Another question: is it likely there is much I can strip from my kernel } besides disabling various things in my kernel config file that will make } it smaller? I've got 32 megs in this box but I am concerned with the amt } of memory FreeBSD seems to eat, and would like to eliminate every } unecessary byte everywhere I can.. perhaps a pointer to info on stripping } down FreeBSD? I've already gotten rid of all unecessary daemons etc. and } stripped my config file to the bone. (didn't remove npx0 tho.. ;) ) Most device driver don't consume that much memory, but NFS does! There is now an option that disables only the NFS server functions, but allows a system to act as a NFS client. Too bad that the AMD automounter requires that server functionality ... BTW: (If you happen to have that much time to spend :) I'd really love to have bytebench results for the SP3G with both WRITE-BACK and WRITE-THROUGH secondary cache. The Dirty Tag RAM seems to cost some $20, and it might be a good way to improve my systems effective memory throughput. Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 13:59:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA07897 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07891 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA00937; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:59:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199601292159.NAA00937@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Sean T. Lamont" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hints on network dropping In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:57:32 PST." <9601291957.AA24777@zebu.serv.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:59:50 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >Hi there. I have been experiencing problems with a FreeBSD system >dropping its network connection entirely. It's a fairly high trafficked >httpd server, and that's about it. It's an ASUS P133 motherboard with >an NE2000 clone network card and an IDE disk system. > >What happens is, for about 10 minutes at a time (at least once per >day) the network will drop entirely ; the site isn't ping'able, >no logging occurs on the http server. In about 10 minutes, it comes >up and runs fine. > >I'm at somewhat of a loss here since I have an identical kernel >running on our news server, which has some extended resources like >processes. It almost sounds like a driver problem, but as I said, >the NE2000 clone is working fine for us on the other server. > >Any hints for me before I consider swapping out OS's? The problem is likely caused by running out of mbuf clusters. Add: options "NMBCLUSTERS=2048" ...to your kernel config file. I'd also recommend getting a PCI ethernet controller. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 14:35:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16005 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15985 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA13083 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:38:23 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601292238.OAA13083@MediaCity.com> Subject: hasty's latest sound driver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:38:22 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I ported hasty's latest sound driver to 2.2-current? Though I've only tested it with the sound cards that I have: GusMAX Sound Blaster 1.5 Does anybody want it? Or are similar changes already available somewhere? -- Brian Litzinger From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 14:52:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA17894 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.155.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17887 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from fhc50.reshall.berkeley.edu (fhc50.ResHall.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.50]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA29917 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:52:39 -0800 Message-ID: <310D4FD0.167EB0E7@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:53:04 -0800 From: Sherman Mui Organization: University of California, Berkeley X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: QIC80: support variable len tapes? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does the QIC80 tape floppy driver support longer length tapes in 2.1.0? A while ago I heard someone was going to do that. Thanks, Sherman -- Sherman Mui moooster@uclink4.berkeley.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 14:59:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA18479 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from aries.bbcc.ctc.edu (ARIES.BBCC.CTC.EDU [134.39.180.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18454 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from aries (aries [134.39.180.10]) by aries.bbcc.ctc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA00341 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:57:21 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:57:21 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Prentice X-Sender: steve@aries To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Quotas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I need a little help setting up quotas. I thought I have went through every little thing, but nothing works. I have specified "userquota" and "groupquota" in fstab for my /dev/sd0g (/home). Here is the line in fstab: /dev/sd0g /home ufs rw 1 1 userquota groupquota Then I have made the two files quota.group and quota.user in /home. And made them readable and writeable by only root (600). And made them owned by root:wheel. Then I ran quotaon -a, and just to make sure quotaon /home. Then I ran edquota -g user (edit quotas for group user) and it worked fine. I put: fs /home blocks soft=10000 hard=20000 edquota returns no errors after saving the file, but if I execute quotas -g user It comes up with quotas:none. No matter who I put in the line in edquota, the two files (quota.group, quota.user) never get changed. Help!! :) Steve Prentice steve@aries.bbcc.ctc.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 15:08:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA19278 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19255 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id KAA23116 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:06:07 +1100 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:06:06 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: Luis Verissimo , questions@freebsd.org Subject: inetd/deamon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Anthony Hill wrote: > > > apache as a deamon - the docs recommend against using apache from inetd. > > (Anyone know why ?) > > Apache can manage multiple connections better than inetd can -- Apache > spawns off 4 or so instances; inetd spawns 1 for every connection, which > can get costly in terms of time and memory. Wouldnt the habit of spawning more children than is actually required mean that while running as a deamon is more efficiant time wise, but that running under inetd is more efficiant memory wise ? Also do you know if there are any other reasons for not running apache from inetd ? (The site I run is VERY lightly hit - and this is not about to change) I figure the overhead of having httpd's running all the time is not worth the small improvement in response when is actually used, unless of course, other factors are also at play here. Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 15:23:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20776 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:23:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20763 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA11899; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:05:28 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601292335.KAA11899@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: MAIL & Network Card To: pranas@perkunas.omnitel.net (Darius Ramanauskas) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:05:27 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <310CF0C7.B7B@post.omnitel.net> from "Darius Ramanauskas" at Jan 29, 96 06:07:35 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Darius Ramanauskas stands accused of saying: > Q1: > What about Mail in FreeBSD: I mean SMTP/POP3/USENET Servers ? SMTP = sendmail. Part of the base system. POP3 = popper. See the ports collection. USENET = ??? No such thing. If you mean Usenet news, use INN, see the ports collection > Q2: > Where I can find drivers for my net card: HP PC LAN ...? You can't. Throw it out and buy a card that will suit your needs. For a small system, an NE2000 will do. For a large server, a DE2104x-based PCI card is your best bet. > Dara -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 15:24:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20946 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20883 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15695; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:23:59 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA00288; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:23:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:23:59 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601292323.AA00288@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: ejs@bfd.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (ejs@bfd.com) Subject: Re: printcap question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Eric" == Eric J Schwertfeger writes: Eric> Is there a nicer way to do this? Either by using a printcap Eric> field that stuffs the data into another queue rather than Eric> forcing the filter to do it, or by letting me use filters Eric> and remote printers in the same definition. The nicest way I've found to achieve this is to dump the BSD LPD that accompanies FreeBSD. It works well in far too few situations, and you've got a situation for which its feature deficit has no good resolution. I recommend PLP or LPRng---see the FreeBSD handbook's ``Printing'' section for details on where to get each. They both allow you to specify how and where jobs get filtered before the eventually reach a printer. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Instead of putting a quarter under a kid's pillow, how about a pinecone? That way, he learns that "wishing" isn't going to save out national forests. -- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 15:41:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22913 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22897 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA12648; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:40:30 -0800 To: alpert@ix.netcom.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, support@cdrom.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1: Hangs during HD boot. SOLVED! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:02:34 PST." <199601290002.QAA17047@ix8.ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:40:29 -0800 Message-ID: <12646.822958829@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > A fine gentleman from Australia pointed out to me that BSD does not like some > non-standard IDE controller settings. Sure enough, I was using BLOCK mode. Thanks for saving me a reply! :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 16:33:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA27635 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub.aros.net ([205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27626 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.6.12/Unknown) with ESMTP id AAA10044; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:34:35 GMT Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02540; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:32:55 -0700 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199601300032.RAA02540@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: MAIL & Network Card To: gpalmer@cdrom.com (Gary Palmer) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:32:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <25451.822932907@westhill.cdrom.com> from "Gary Palmer" at Jan 29, 96 08:28:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Lo and behold, Gary Palmer once said: > USENET - There is INN1.4SEC2 in ports, but I'd recommend INN 1.4 > unoff3. You'll have to look for the latter, I can't remember > where I found it. ftp://ftp.math.psu.edu is the "official" repository of the unofficial releases. :-) (Dave Barr's FTP site) I think it's in pub/inn or pub/news. -Dave Andersen -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual/ "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 17:38:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA04460 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from montana.com (paw.montana.com [199.2.139.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04419 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:38:22 -0800 (PST) From: garya@dreamchaser.org Received: from 199.2.139.30 ([199.2.139.30]) by montana.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28105; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:39:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:39:00 -0700 Message-Id: <9601300139.AA28105@ montana.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ps/2 mouse? To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <12066.822955831@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Grrr... As a newbie here, I'm probably being stupid... I have a Micron system with a PS/2 mouse. At least I *think* it's a ps/2 mouse; win95 *says* it's a ps/2 mouse, at irq 12 I rebuilt the kernel with the psm device, but when the sys boots it doesn't find it: psm0 not found at 0x60 Mouse works fine under win95. Can anyone give me any hints? Thanks Gary Aitken garya@dreamchaser.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 17:38:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA04463 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from montana.com (paw.montana.com [199.2.139.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04421 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:38:23 -0800 (PST) From: garya@dreamchaser.org Received: from 199.2.139.30 ([199.2.139.30]) by montana.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28108; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:39:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:39:02 -0700 Message-Id: <9601300139.AA28108@ montana.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DEC 21041 ethernet card (SMC 8432T) To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have an SMC 8432T (Dec 21041 type) ethernet card. There doesn't seem to be a driver for this card. I tried the de0 interface, but at boot I get: de0 rev 17 int a irq 15 on pci0:17 de0: DC21041 pass 1.1 Ethernet address ... swapon:... reboot ... de0 flags=8863<...> mtu 1500 ... ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCGIFFLAGS): no such interface Is there a driver which works with this card? Or what am I doing wrong... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 18:01:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA06631 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06623 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA20975; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:00:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:00:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Stefan Esser cc: Craig Johnston , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: various questions In-Reply-To: <199601292154.AA03805@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > I'd really love to have bytebench results for the SP3G with both > WRITE-BACK and WRITE-THROUGH secondary cache. The Dirty Tag RAM > seems to cost some $20, and it might be a good way to improve my > systems effective memory throughput. dont have bytebench results, but i do have make world results. write-through: 30638.79 real 16447.05 user 3895.20 sys write-back: 25740.88 real 15898.30 user 3779.36 sys Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 18:17:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA07813 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.noc.netcom.net (ns3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA07798 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [206.215.142.10]) by ns3.noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA13102 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:16:46 -0800 Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0-206) id AA17431; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:16:25 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601300216.AA17431@tera.com> Subject: xbiff question To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:16:37 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Anybody else have this problem? xbiff doesn't respond when I have mail in /var/mail. I initiated xbiff and specifically set the mail directory to be //var/mail, then sent myself mail. Nothing! biff y does work, just not xbiff. Same story if I am logged in as `kline' or `root', BTW. Any clues?? gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 18:47:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA10824 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from dartvax.dartmouth.edu (dartvax.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10804 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:47:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from hanover.VALLEY.NET (hanover.valley.net [198.115.160.10]) by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (8.7.3+DND/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23857 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:47:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199601300247.VAA23857@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Received: by hanover.VALLEY.NET (blitz.valley.net) via SMTP from v1-p-27.valley.net id <572961> 29 Jan 96 21:47:25 EST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 21:49:21 -0800 From: "Adam.Strohl." X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Post CD-ROM Adding Of Packages Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk OK, chaps, thankx to your gerat help, I got my kernel to run my CD-ROM drive !! but .. I did the original install off of the CD, and now want to add additional packages (such as XFree86), but when I run /stand/sysinstall and tell it to do an add package (using the menu) it says that it can't load the index file. I can browse the CD-Rom Drive , using mount, and it seems ok from the shell, just that the install menu doesn't see its thier I guess, please help, thanx in advance !!!! -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 18:52:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA11721 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from netrail.net (mdz@netrail.net [205.215.6.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA11685 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mdz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA17885; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:53:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:53:19 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Zimmerman To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: netstat oddity: bug or feature? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a set of interfaces (created by Emerging Technologies' frame relay driver), etha500, etha501, and etha502. When I check its status using netstat, i.e.: netstat -n -I etha500 ...I get accurate output, like so: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll etha5 1500 339288 0 304238 0 0 etha5 1500 205.215.5.4 205.215.5.5 339288 0 304238 0 0 However, when I use the wait (-w) option, like so... netstat -n -I etha500 -w 5 input (eth0) output input (Total) output packets errs packets errs colls packets errs packets errs colls 0 0 0 0 0 719553 1 753094 9 3040 0 0 0 0 0 368 0 380 0 1 It gives me statistics for eth0 instead, which is inactive. Some software of mine uses netstat to display up-to-date status information on various interfaces, so I'm wondering if this is a condition I can correct. I thought it might be a problem with the driver, but since netstat gathers the stats correctly without the -w option, the values are obviously there. I browsed through if.c from netstat briefly, but nothing slapped me in the face. There seems to be a difference between how intpr() and sidewaysintpr() gather their data, but I don't see it. Any ideas? Please CC replies to me, as I'm not on the list... // Matt Zimmerman Chief of System Management NetRail, Inc. // mdz@netrail.net sales@netrail.net // (703) 524-4800 [voice] (703) 524-4802 [data] (703) 534-5033 [fax] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 19:03:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA12876 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-11.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.43]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12866 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA00262; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:02:15 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:02:14 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: Steve Prentice cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quotas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Steve Prentice wrote: > I need a little help setting up quotas. I thought I have went through > every little thing, but nothing works. I have specified "userquota" and > "groupquota" in fstab for my /dev/sd0g (/home). Here is the line in fstab: > /dev/sd0g /home ufs rw 1 1 userquota groupquota Wrong format. It should read: /dev/sd0g /home ufs rw,userquota,groupquota 1 1 > Then I have made the two files quota.group and quota.user in /home. And > made them readable and writeable by only root (600). And made them owned > by root:wheel. You don't have to make these; the first time quota is run, it'll do it for you. In fact, you shouldn't hand-make them, because I think they have to be made in a certain format. Then I ran quotaon -a, and just to make sure quotaon /home. quotaon -a should be sufficient. Edit /etc/sysconfig, this is really where you should turn on quotas, instead of hand-editing the /etc/rc* files. > Then I ran edquota -g user (edit quotas for group user) and it worked > fine. I put: > fs /home blocks soft=10000 hard=20000 > edquota returns no errors after saving the file, but if I execute > quotas -g user It comes up with quotas:none. No matter who I put in > the line in edquota, the two files (quota.group, quota.user) never get > changed. Help!! :) Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 19:48:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA16393 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA16375 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.177.193.231] (n4hhe.ampr.org [204.177.193.231]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9 Secure) with SMTP id VAA13388; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:49:57 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:47:47 -0600 To: dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu From: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) Subject: Re: Hardware Compatibility.. Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Doug White said > >On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Mark Jamison wrote: > >> Hi I was wondering if FreeBSD would run on my system.. >> >> My system is configured as follows: >> >> 486DX-2 50MHz >> 8 megs RAM >> EIDE Controller Card >> EIDE Mitsumi 4X CD-ROM >> EIDE Conner 850MB Hard Drive >> Soundblaster 16 >> Gravis Ultrasound ACE >> Cirrus SVGA VESA Card (1meg VRAM) > >Only sticky point may be your CDROM, since ATAPI isn't well supported >(slave on the primary disk only). Will eventually work though :) I think you have it backwards. The ATAPI CDROM has to be the master. And mine works on the 2nd IDE interface. Haven't stressed it to see if it breaks. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ============================================================= To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. - Thomas Edison From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 20:02:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA17829 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [205.162.141.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17819 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.nightflight (laptop [205.162.141.3]) by nightflight.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA16168; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:07:33 -0800 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960130040343.397ff81e@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:03:43 -0800 To: Steve Prentice From: Gary Crutcher Subject: Re: Quotas Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here is what I have in my /etc/fstab for the drive I want quotas on, which works fine under FBSD v2.1R: /dev/sd0s2f /nf ufs rw,userquota 1 1 Gary At 02:57 PM 1/29/96 -0800, you wrote: >I need a little help setting up quotas. I thought I have went through >every little thing, but nothing works. I have specified "userquota" and >"groupquota" in fstab for my /dev/sd0g (/home). Here is the line in fstab: >/dev/sd0g /home ufs rw 1 1 userquota groupquota > >Then I have made the two files quota.group and quota.user in /home. And >made them readable and writeable by only root (600). And made them owned >by root:wheel. > >Then I ran quotaon -a, and just to make sure quotaon /home. > >Then I ran edquota -g user (edit quotas for group user) and it worked >fine. I put: >fs /home blocks soft=10000 hard=20000 >edquota returns no errors after saving the file, but if I execute >quotas -g user It comes up with quotas:none. No matter who I put in >the line in edquota, the two files (quota.group, quota.user) never get >changed. Help!! :) > >Steve Prentice >steve@aries.bbcc.ctc.edu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com 'Flights throughout the Internet' Voice/FAX: 619-631-7885 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 20:23:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA19663 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19650 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:23:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA18896 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:22:48 -0800 Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id PAA02535 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:20:29 +1100 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:20:26 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: mail over intermittant serial link Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a rather typical account with my ISP - PPP over an intermittant link. The account I have is geared toward the average Windows or Mac user. What would be a good way of getting mail to and from my system. Until now I have telneting into my ISP's host, and reading mail there using pine, pico or whatever. I have heard that it is possible to run UUCP over a PPP link - this would probably be good. Does anyone know where I could find out about this, or have any other suggestions ? Anthony Hill From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 20:30:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA20290 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu (wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu [136.165.243.183]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20236 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wangel@localhost) by wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu (8.7.3/8.6.12) id XAA01292; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:25:37 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:25:36 +0000 () From: Wicked Angel To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HPFS In-Reply-To: <9601300139.AA28105@ montana.com > Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Question :) I mounted the partition fine, but will FreeBSD read and write to it? It's a HPFS(os/2) partition, on a extended partition. As I said, it mounts fine, but goes crazy when I type 'ls' :) Thanks again Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 20:38:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA21190 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21098 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA13570; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:19:34 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601300449.PAA13570@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Problems installing 2.1 CDROM To: kav@ihlpf.att.com (Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:19:32 +1030 (CST) Cc: mpf@marconi.att.com, FreeBSD-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601292023.AA27843@ig4.att.att.com> from "Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261" at Jan 29, 96 11:16:00 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261 stands accused of saying: > During the boot we notice that the probe for CD-ROM drive the following > is reported: > > UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 > not ready to ready transition: medium may have changed Harmless. > Then, if we proceed with the installation, we can get into the installation > menu system and configure the FreeBSD partitions. When we continue with the > installation, we get a kernel panic when the installation trys to start > loading from the CD-ROM. The amusing panic is: "Going nowhere without my init!" > which appears to be from kern/kern_exit.c Did you have the CD in when you booted the system? Did you use the 'W'rite option in either the slice editor or the partition editor? > Kurt Vangsness > > P.S. I noticed that there doesn't appear to be a way to look at the > kernel boot probe messages from the installation menu anymore. I remember > that an older version allowed you to do that and I found it very useful > in cases such as this problem. Is it still there but just hidden somehow? Hit ScrollLock and use the cursor keys. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 20:38:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA21185 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21151 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA13591; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:20:35 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601300450.PAA13591@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: DEC 21041 ethernet card (SMC 8432T) To: garya@dreamchaser.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:20:34 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9601300139.AA28108@ montana.com > from "garya@dreamchaser.org" at Jan 29, 96 06:39:02 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk garya@dreamchaser.org stands accused of saying: > > I have an SMC 8432T (Dec 21041 type) ethernet card. > There doesn't seem to be a driver for this card. > I tried the de0 interface, but at boot I get: > > de0 rev 17 int a irq 15 on pci0:17 > de0: DC21041 pass 1.1 Ethernet address ... > swapon:... > reboot > ... > de0 flags=8863<...> mtu 1500 > ... > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCGIFFLAGS): no such interface > > Is there a driver which works with this card? > Or what am I doing wrong... The de driver should work fine. If you don't get a message indicating the media type, it's most likely that the card is not generating interrupts. I had the same problems with a Compex card, which turned out to be busted. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 20:40:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA21525 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21480 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA13628; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:23:04 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601300453.PAA13628@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0.5 and Mach64 graphics card To: 101603.1662@compuserve.com (Adrian Neville) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:23:03 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <960129202515_101603.1662_JHP90-1@CompuServe.COM> from "Adrian Neville" at Jan 29, 96 03:25:15 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Adrian Neville stands accused of saying: > I only have e-mail access ot the internet normally but yesterday did > get a look at the freebsd search page and it seems a number of > people have had the same problem, but i couldn't find an answer. Sheesh. I can't _begin_ to imagine how many times I've answered this one . Edit /sys/i386/isa/sio.c and remove the last number from the definition of likely_com_ports, and rebuild the kernel. > Thanks Adrian -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 21:29:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA26088 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:29:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cliff.uoknor.edu (cliff.backbone.uoknor.edu [129.15.2.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26068 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp64.modems.uoknor.edu by cliff.uoknor.edu; Mon, 29 Jan 96 23:29:12 -0600 X-Sender: acolyte@129.15.2.9 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_822983373==_" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: acolyte@uoknor.edu (Eric Eiseman) Subject: Kernel won't ID internal modem on COM2 X-Attachments: C:\COPY\T\BOOTLOG.TXT;C:\COPY\T\MYKERNEL.TXT; Message-Id: <310daca96029002@cliff.uoknor.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 23:29:16 -0600 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_822983373==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I just slapped the CD-ROM release of FreeBSD 2.1.0 on my machine and most things work great. However, I can't get it to identify my Gateway 2000 14.4kbps internal modem on COM2 (read IRQ3, 0x2f8-0x2ff). I have an Acer PCI/ISA motherboard with a 16550A compatable UART. The modem is in an ISA slot. Attached are the the config file for the compile of my kernel and the output from dmesg. Any help on what to do is appreciated. Thanks, Eric Eric Eiseman acolyte@uoknor.edu --=====================_822983373==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="BOOTLOG.TXT" FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Jan 28 23:01:15 1996 eric@acolyte:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL CPU: 90-MHz Pentium 735\\90 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 8388608 (8192K bytes) avail memory = 6905856 (6744K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 not found at 0x2f8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 814MB (1667232 sectors), 1654 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 204MB (417792 sectors), 1024 cyls, 12 heads, 34 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 256MB (524288 sectors), 1024 cyls, 16 heads, 32 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sb0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 on isa sb0: joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 vga0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:20 --=====================_822983373==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="MYKERNEL.TXT" # # MYKERNEL -- Eric Eiseman's P5-90 # # $Id: MYKERNEL, 1996/1/28 22:50:00 eae Exp $ # machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident MYKERNEL maxusers 10 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options "AUTO_EOI_1" options "AUTO_EOI_2" options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. pseudo-device loop pseudo-device log # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device sppp 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" --=====================_822983373==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Acolyte ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |"What do you mean? The world was MEANT to be saved by cute teenaged girls!" | | | | -reaction after watching _Top wa Narea! Gunbuster_. | | | |Genma: "Weren't you prepared to lay down your life for the art?!" | |Ranma: "My life, YES! My manhood is another story!" | | | | -current fav line from Ranma 1/2. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --=====================_822983373==_-- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 21:34:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA26625 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailx.best.com (mailx.best.com [204.156.128.56]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26614 Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from shellx.best.com (diag@shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by mailx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA17602; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:35:21 -0800 Received: from othello.selgus.com (brett.vip.best.com [205.149.181.145]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA23678; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:32:22 -0800 Message-ID: <310DAD40.1AC8@selgus.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:31:44 -0800 From: Brett Bourbin Organization: Selgus Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: garya@dreamchaser.org CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ps/2 mouse? References: <9601300139.AA28105@ montana.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk garya@dreamchaser.org wrote: > As a newbie here, I'm probably being stupid... > > I have a Micron system with a PS/2 mouse. > At least I *think* it's a ps/2 mouse; > win95 *says* it's a ps/2 mouse, at irq 12 > > I rebuilt the kernel with the psm device, > but when the sys boots it doesn't find it: > > psm0 not found at 0x60 > > Mouse works fine under win95. > > Can anyone give me any hints? Thanks You most likely do have a PS/2 mouse-- it is the FreeBSD PS/2 mouse probe code that is broken. The probe code looks like it works on only certain motherboards, and does not use the BIOS to check for the existance of the devices. A better way would have been at boot time to do a BIOS int 0x11 and check the PS/2 mouse bit. If you know you have the hardware attached, you could do what I did, and just comment out the test code in the psmprobe() code in psm.c in the kernel. (Make it so it always returns true, mouse is there). > Gary Aitken garya@dreamchaser.org -- Brett Bourbin, President SELGUS LIMITED brett@selgus.com 555 Bryant Street, Suite 221 Palo Alto, CA 94301 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 23:06:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA07170 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper101131.iafrica.com [196.7.101.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07149 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00150; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:05:20 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601300705.JAA00150@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: HPFS To: wangel@wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu (Wicked Angel) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:05:18 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Wicked Angel" at Jan 29, 96 11:25:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Wicked Angel wrote: > . . . . . > I mounted the partition fine, but will FreeBSD read and write to it? > > It's a HPFS(os/2) partition, on a extended partition. > > As I said, it mounts fine, but goes crazy when I type 'ls' :) FS OS Supported ----------------------------------------------------- FAT MS-DOS Yes (Currently being revised) VFAT Windows95 Real Soon Now HPFS OS/2 No NTFS Windows NT No The filesystems are actually very different, except for FAT/VFAT. As you observed, trying to use one in place of another just results in a mess. Though I guess it shouldn't let you get that far. :-( -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 23:20:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA08921 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from jennifer.pernet.net (jennifer.pernet.net [205.229.0.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08867 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from neal@localhost) by jennifer.pernet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA02518; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:14:59 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:14:59 -0600 (CST) From: Neal Rigney To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mysterious reboots Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We have a problem with two 2.1.0-RELEASE machines. One is a P5-100 with 64M and 3 2G SCSI drives with an aha2940. The other is a DX4/100 with 32M and two Cyclades 16 port cards running with the stock driver and a standard IDE HD. Both machines spontaneously reboot occasionally. The DX4 used to lock up completely, but now it's begun rebooting lately. Load doesn't seem to matter. Reboots have occured both under high load and low load with equal frquency. The DX4 is running as a terminal server on a subnet, so it's running gated 3.5 Beta 6(read the latest "stable" version). The P100 is running Apache, INN, and mail(I know, it's overloaded, I'm working on it). There are no diagnostics printed either oon console or in the logs. The machine just reboots. Any clues, or can you point me in the right direction to give more useful info? Thanks -- Neal Rigney sysadmin, PERnet Communications, (409)729-4638 neal@mail.pernet.net My opinions are mine, damnit! PERnet can't have them! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 23:36:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA10714 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA10687 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA02078; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:35:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199601300735.XAA02078@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Giao Nguyen cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Fast Ethernet support In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:58:39 EST." <418EB1B2F@mail.perform.vt.edu> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:35:55 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Has fast ethernet support been added to FreeBSD 2.1.0 yet? I'm interested >in getting an Intel EtherExpress Pro for my system, but I don't want to >waste the money if fast ethernet is not supported. Oh, is the >EtherExpress Pro (PCI) card supported by the kernel? The EE Pro/100B is supported in 2.1-stable and 2.2-current. The SMC 9332 is also supported. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 23:55:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA12705 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from twolf13.ee.washington.edu (twolf13.ee.washington.edu [128.95.31.178]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12687 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by twolf13.ee.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17611; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:54:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:54:40 -0800 (PST) From: Le-Chin Eugene Liu To: Adrian Neville <101603.1662@compuserve.com> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0.5 and Mach64 graphics card In-Reply-To: <960129202515_101603.1662_JHP90-1@CompuServe.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I got the same problem. According to my Mach64 manual, the card uses the port address 0x2e8. It's also the address of sio3(COM4). Someone told me a quick fix. Remove the address from the list in sio.c. It works for me. I guess FreeBSD probes all possible serial ports, when you enable any of the serial ports. This causes the problem. Eugene On 29 Jan 1996, Adrian Neville wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Firstly thanks to all those who replied to my last question,=20 >=20 > The reason i was taking things out of the kernel was because when booting= =20 > the monitor blanked then powered off and i had to reset the system.=20 >=20 > Investigation shows that if i have a sio device in the kernel i can't boo= t, the > sio and > mach64 card seem to clash. >=20 > I only have e-mail access ot the internet normally but yesterday did get = a look > at the freebsd search page and it seems a number of people have had the s= ame > problem, but i couldn't find an answer. >=20 > I have a ATI Mach64 graphics card with 1mb onboard ram, the mouse is conn= ected > to COM1 irq 4, there is a COM2 irq 3 but i have only defined sio0 in the = kernel. >=20 > If i boot with ANY sio devices in the kernel the monitor blanks then powe= rs off > just after loading the kernel. >=20 > Does any one know how i can get the serial ports working ?=20 >=20 > Sorry to have to keep asking, >=20 > Thanks Adrian >=20 > e-mail 101603.1662@compuserv.com >=20 >=20 >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Le-Chin Eugene Liu =BCB =BC=D6 =B8s l.liu@ieee.org Lab: (206)616-3169 Web: http://weber.u.washington.edu/~lliu =20 Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Box 352500 University of Washington, Seattle, WA 98195 Q'APLA From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 29 23:58:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA13043 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13027 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA01116; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:57:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:57:02 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@freebsd.org, questions@netbsd.org Subject: Re: Is there plans to implement ELF into FreeBSD/NetBSD? Linux has it. In-Reply-To: <199601291744.KAA03766@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > I did search FAQ etc. on www.freebsd.org but fould nothing about ELF. > > > > Is there plans to implement it into NetBSD and/or FreeBSD? > > What do you feel is the compelling reason to support ELF instead > of a.out as the native binary format? Maybe I do not know what you mean with a.out native, or what ELF is ... I have been told: We have Sun machines. If FreeBSD supports ELF I can run Sun Solaris i386 binaries in FreeBSD. I can also run Linux ELF binaries. I can also run many other ELF i386 binaries. ELF is more OS independed because it is calling library functions by name. The big problem in FredBSD, NetBSD, Linux is the lack of good application software: Word processing for example as a primary tool for microcomputer users. Maybe I am 100% wrong? One common binary format sounds very nice. If you try to build Linux emulator, Solaris emulator, SCO emulator etc. I think it is a big task. Building one ELF "emulator" sounds better. (is there SCO ELF ;-) I do not know). Ah this talk is form Linux people, they speak about ELF ... Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 00:24:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA15317 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA15308 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA02224; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:24:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199601300824.AAA02224@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Neal Rigney cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:14:59 CST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:24:16 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >We have a problem with two 2.1.0-RELEASE machines. One is a P5-100 with ... >Any clues, or can you point me in the right direction to give more useful >info? If it is possible, please upgrade to 2.1-stable. -stable contains code to detect stack overflows and panic more gracefully. It also has several important bugfixes which may or may not help your specific problem. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 00:45:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA17227 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper119239.iafrica.com [196.7.119.239]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA17208 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00740; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:33:51 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601300833.KAA00740@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: mail over intermittant serial link To: ahill@interconnect.com.au (Anthony Hill) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:33:48 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Anthony Hill" at Jan 30, 96 03:20:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Anthony Hill wrote: > I have a rather typical account with my ISP - PPP over an intermittant link. > The account I have is geared toward the average Windows or Mac user. > > What would be a good way of getting mail to and from my system. Until now > I have telneting into my ISP's host, and reading mail there using pine, > pico or whatever. > > I have heard that it is possible to run UUCP over a PPP link - this would > probably be good. Does anyone know where I could find out about this, or > have any other suggestions ? To: You could try popclient, which is simple to set up and use and is available in the ports collection. It supports POP2 and POP3. (Use popclient 3.xx rather than 2.21, which has some problems.) From: sendmail(8) will handle this transparently, at least if you're connected at the time. Otherwise, 'sendmail -q' when you connect. -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 01:05:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA19624 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19603 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA11015; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:05:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:05:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Steve Prentice cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quotas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Steve Prentice wrote: > I need a little help setting up quotas. I thought I have went through > every little thing, but nothing works. I have specified "userquota" and > "groupquota" in fstab for my /dev/sd0g (/home). Here is the line in fstab: > /dev/sd0g /home ufs rw 1 1 userquota groupquota /dev/sd0g /home ufs rw,userquota,groupquota 1 1 > Then I have made the two files quota.group and quota.user in /home. And > made them readable and writeable by only root (600). And made them owned > by root:wheel. quotacheck -v -a > Then I ran quotaon -a, and just to make sure quotaon /home. quotaon -a will turn on quota checking for all filesystems that have quotas in /etc/fstab > Then I ran edquota -g user (edit quotas for group user) and it worked > fine. I put: -g edits the quotas for the specified group. > edquota returns no errors after saving the file, but if I execute > quotas -g user It comes up with quotas:none. No matter who I put in > the line in edquota, the two files (quota.group, quota.user) never get > changed. Help!! :) edquota For some reason quotaon and quotacheck are working properly in 2.1. The 2.0.5 and 2.1 snaps had some weirdness, but as I had expected, it was probably caused some of the mucking about in the filesystem code b/t 2.0 and 2.1. :) | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 02:36:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA00548 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 02:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA29970 Tue, 30 Jan 1996 02:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA16365 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:27:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199601301027.AA16365@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:26:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" "Re: various questions" (Jan 29, 21:00) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: various questions Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 29, 21:00, "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: } Subject: Re: various questions } On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: } > I'd really love to have bytebench results for the SP3G with both } > WRITE-BACK and WRITE-THROUGH secondary cache. The Dirty Tag RAM } > seems to cost some $20, and it might be a good way to improve my } > systems effective memory throughput. } } dont have bytebench results, but i do have make world results. } } write-through: } 30638.79 real 16447.05 user 3895.20 sys } write-back: } 25740.88 real 15898.30 user 3779.36 sys Thanks! Those are as good, if not better, than the bogus byte bench results :) Seems you see some 3% to 4% improved user/system time (this is a 486DX2/66, I assume ... ?) DX2/66 22902.31 real 17493.97 user 3495.63 sys AMD5x86 16795.20 real 11689.23 user 2822.52 sys *1.50 (user) P133 13449.10 real 8789.22 user 2073.65 sys *1.33 (user) Since I just went from a 486DX2/66 to an AMD 5x86, I thought I might just post my make world result, and have added a 2.1R make world posted by JKH a few weeks ago ... Seems that an AMD 5x86 is more than halfway towards a P133 :) :) Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 03:18:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA05923 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lackowa.pap.waw.pl (lackowa.pap.waw.pl [194.92.35.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA05879 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cergowa.pap.waw.pl (cergowa [194.92.35.52]) by lackowa.pap.waw.pl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA20170; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:13:45 +0100 From: Jaroslaw Bazydlo Received: (jarekb@localhost) by cergowa.pap.waw.pl (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA02841; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:15:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199601301115.MAA02841@cergowa.pap.waw.pl> Subject: How to make CUAA0 work with 8N1 settings! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:14:59 +0100 (MET) Cc: jarekb@pap.waw.pl (Jaroslaw Bazydlo) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hey, I've got terrible problem with setting up /dev/cuaa0. I have simple app that is listening to COM port and saving into disk file. Off course in a future i'll expand it to smth else. When I had a direct connection there was no problems. Everything worked just fine. A few days ago I connected my port with a modem (Shrack MDS-25) but what I got on a screen is just a kind of mess. This is my Init Script for the /dev/cuaa0: #!/bin/sh for i in $* do comcontrol /dev/ttyd$i dtrwait 100 drainwait 180 stty ; eol2 = ; erase = ^?; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; green:~/src/papreceiver-0.01 {96} /sbin/dmesg | grep sio sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16450 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 5 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 green:~/src/papreceiver-0.01 {97} ./paprec WARNING: New logfile name is /home/staff/jarekb/src/papreceiver-0.01/.receiver/wtorek/1.txt a( :5T2R- ^^^^^ Here is some kind of mess instead of plain TXT file. WHAT DID I DO WRONG ???? I check the line under DOS and TELIX and there was no problems with reading files. Greets J.Bazydlo -- _ ____ ____ | | __ _| _ \ __ _/ ___| POLISH PRESS AGENCY - Warsaw _ | |/ _` | |_) / _` \___ \ email: ............... jarekb@pap.waw.pl | |_| | Jaroslaw Bazydlo __) | irc: McJARAS ...... on: #Polska #Gandalf \___/ \__,_|_| \_\__,_|____/. home-page: http://www.pap.waw.pl/~jarekb From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 03:18:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA05987 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA05974 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA11052; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:16:40 -0600 Message-Id: <9601301116.AA11052@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:16:40 -0600 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: neal@jennifer.pernet.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >We have a problem with two 2.1.0-RELEASE machines. One is a P5-100 with >64M and 3 2G SCSI drives with an aha2940. The other is a DX4/100 with >32M and two Cyclades 16 port cards running with the stock driver and a >standard IDE HD. > >Both machines spontaneously reboot occasionally. The DX4 used to lock up >completely, but now it's begun rebooting lately. > >Load doesn't seem to matter. Reboots have occured both under high >load and low load with equal frquency. > >The DX4 is running as a terminal server on a subnet, so it's running >gated 3.5 Beta 6(read the latest "stable" version). The P100 is running >Apache, INN, and mail(I know, it's overloaded, I'm working on it). > >There are no diagnostics printed either oon console or in the logs. The >machine just reboots. > >Any clues, or can you point me in the right direction to give more useful >info? I can't comment on the DX4/100, but the P5-100 with the Adaptec 2940 could most likely benefit by upgrading to -stable. There were some serious bug fixes brought into -stable and -current for the ahc driver. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 04:36:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA14864 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 04:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA14768 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 04:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id XAA12649; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:34:49 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:34:49 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au To: David Kelly cc: dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu, questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Compatibility.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, David Kelly wrote: > Doug White said > > > >On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Mark Jamison wrote: > > > >> Hi I was wondering if FreeBSD would run on my system.. > >> > >> My system is configured as follows: > >> > >> 486DX-2 50MHz > >> 8 megs RAM > >> EIDE Controller Card > >> EIDE Mitsumi 4X CD-ROM > >> EIDE Conner 850MB Hard Drive > >> Soundblaster 16 > >> Gravis Ultrasound ACE > >> Cirrus SVGA VESA Card (1meg VRAM) > > > >Only sticky point may be your CDROM, since ATAPI isn't well supported > >(slave on the primary disk only). Will eventually work though :) > > I think you have it backwards. The ATAPI CDROM has to be the master. And > mine works on the 2nd IDE interface. Haven't stressed it to see if it > breaks. > I have had problems using my ATAPI CDROM as the primary device on the second controller as well. My current configuration is wd0 on controller 0 with the CDROM as the slave on controller 0. The second hard disk is on controller 1. I would be interested in knowing how to get the CDROM to work as the primary device on the secondary controller. thanks Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 04:40:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA15515 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 04:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA15473 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 04:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA06329 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 07:43:02 -0500 Received: from buffnet5.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa11949; 30 Jan 96 7:44 EST Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 07:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: steve hovey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: strange routed problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I gota problem. In order to get my cisco to route between subnets (I have 3 active on one ring), I had to set RIP between them on the router. This gen's errors on my new machine on my third ring. It says over any over about packet from unknown router 205.246.19.1 or it will say unknown router 205.247.124.1 (19.1 is the cisco's ethernet interface, then I give an ip alias - one for each other subnet). So, if I put these routers in /etc/gateways, the errors stop, only my fefault gateway of 205.247.125.1 keeps getting replaceed with 205.246.19.1 which doesnt work and isnt correct- manually setting a static route doesnt help. It still gets wiped. Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 05:25:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA18987 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.philips.nl (ns.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA18979 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) id OAA08532 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:24:27 +0100 Received: from unknown(130.140.96.243) by ns.philips.nl via smap (V1.3+ESMTP) with SMTP id sma008326; Tue Jan 30 14:22:26 1996 Received: from eis16 by knox.pcec.philips.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26224; Tue, 30 Jan 96 08:23:11 EST Message-Id: <310E1BBF.32A7@knox.pcec.philips.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:23:11 -0500 From: Edward Wolpert Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Iomega qic-80 tape drive 420 question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Folks- I recently upgraded from 2.0.5 to 2.1-release. Does the Iomega qic-80 tape drive work with 420MB tapes in 2.1-R? In 2.0.5 it would munch them, and I think only the 250MB tapes would work. -- Virtually, Edward Wolpert ------------------------------- "Nothingness is the worm in the |wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com | heart of being" -Sartre |wolpert@utk.edu | ------------------------------- Fnord! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 05:40:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA20376 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from cy.com (root@jake.atlwin.com [155.229.56.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA20344 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from jake.atlwin.com ([155.229.56.46]) by cy.com (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA04638; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:36:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199601301436.JAA04638@cy.com> X-Sender: tkelley@cy.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:36:47 -0500 To: "Adam.Strohl." From: "Tim M. Kelley" Subject: Re: Post CD-ROM Adding Of Packages Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 09:49 PM 1/29/96 -0800, Adam Strohl wrote: >I did the original install off of the CD, and now want to add additional >packages >(such as XFree86), but when I run /stand/sysinstall and tell it to do an add >package >(using the menu) it says that it can't load the index file. I can browse the >CD-Rom >Drive , using mount, and it seems ok from the shell, just that the install menu >doesn't see its thier I guess, please help, thanx in advance !!!! > > -- Adam Adam, Here's the way I have installed packages from the CDROM 1) mount the cdrom 2) /stand/sysinstall 3) set the media type to File System and use /cdrom as the fs 4) continue with the install Good luck, Tim Kelley From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 05:48:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA21372 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA21272 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA00281; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 07:47:48 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 07:47:47 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: Gary Kline cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xbiff question In-Reply-To: <9601300216.AA17431@tera.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Gary Kline wrote: > > Anybody else have this problem? xbiff doesn't respond when > I have mail in /var/mail. I initiated xbiff and specifically > set the mail directory to be //var/mail, then sent myself > mail. Nothing! I beleive you're supposed to tell it /var/mail/yourlogin like /var/mail/dbaker for me, not just /var/mail so it will know what user it's looking for. If for all users, /var/mail/* should work.... > > biff y does work, just not xbiff. Same story if I am logged > in as `kline' or `root', BTW. > > Any clues?? > > gary kline > > > Daniel -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 06:08:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA24591 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24583 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcm.co.za [196.3.226.39] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0thGhv-000aqyC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 16:06 EET Received: from PCM1/MERC_Q by pcm.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jan 96 15:58:13 +2 Received: from MERC_Q by PCM1 (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jan 96 15:57:52 +2 From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: questions@freebsd.org, mark@grondar.za Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:57:50 +2 Subject: Maxoptix Tahiti-II Removable Read-Write Optical drive X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Irvine Short" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <44CEE3B4FC4@pcm.co.za> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi All Anyone know if I can use this drive under FreebSD 2.1.0-Release? TIA Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Engineer Professional Computer Manufacturers Amalgamated House, Jordaan St Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 06:15:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA24885 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24865 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA02010; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:15:25 -0500 From: joe.gazarik@jabs.com (Joe Gazarik) Subject: I need drivers for the Epson Stylus Color printer and ES-600 C scanner Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:45:06 GMT Message-Id: <9601300328004179@jabs.com> Organization: JABS Talk BBS To: www@freebsd.org ReSent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:15:20 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: John Fieber ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Please help!!!! I have a 90 MHz Pentium to which I am going to shortly be adding on FreeBSD 2.1. My computer is a Packard Bell Legend 105CD. The computer hardware seems to be supported by FreeBSD. My problem is that I also have an Epson Stylus Color printer and an Epson ES-600C flatbed scanner both of which are vital to my work. I need drivers for the two epson devices mentioned above so that FreeBSD 2.1 will recognize them and so I can use them in UNIX. Please help me! Epson has been pretty uncooperative and you guys are my last hope. I really need these drivers for the printer and scanner. Please tell me where I can get them. Thanks, I appriciate. Also, just off the top of your head, do you remember any known conflicts between a Packard Bell Legend 105CD and FreeBSD. Any and all info would be very helpful. Most Respectfully Yours, Joe Gazarik (joe.gazarik@JABS.com) P.S. Could you also give me details as to going about obtaining Motif 2.0 for FreeBSD and X-Windows. Thanks again!! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 06:45:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA26159 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:45:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.dsu.edu (ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu [138.247.32.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26150 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:45:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by alpha.dsu.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA25171; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:45:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:45:15 -0600 (CST) From: Guy Helmer To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: News server panics (revisited) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk My news server has panic'ed twice now in the past two weeks with "ffs_alloccg: map corrupted" errors. Does this panic indicate anything in particular? I've double-fsck'ed all of the partitions after the last crash, and the second fsck was clean on each partition. The core dump from the first crash gives a complete backtrace of the kernel stack, if anyone is interested in helping figure it out... Thanks in advance for any help, Guy Helmer Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 06:51:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA26352 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from border.com (janus.border.com [199.71.190.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26342 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by janus.border.com id <20490>; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:57:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:51:16 -0500 From: Jerry Kendall To: "Tim M. Kelley" Cc: "Adam.Strohl." , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Post CD-ROM Adding Of Packages In-Reply-To: <199601301436.JAA04638@cy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <96Jan30.095736est.20490@janus.border.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't know if the way I do things is correct, but, it does work for me.. mount the cdrom... Change directory to the location of the package that you want to install, ie: To install nv-3.3B, cd to /cdrom/packages/net. and copy the nv-3.3b.tar.gz file to /tmp, Then cd to /tmp.. Once there, run 'pkg_add nv-3.3b.tar.gz'.... It will install the package and report if any other packages are required to run it... Good luck... Jerry On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Tim M. Kelley wrote: > > At 09:49 PM 1/29/96 -0800, Adam Strohl wrote: > >I did the original install off of the CD, and now want to add additional > >packages > >(such as XFree86), but when I run /stand/sysinstall and tell it to do an add > >package > >(using the menu) it says that it can't load the index file. I can browse the > >CD-Rom > >Drive , using mount, and it seems ok from the shell, just that the install > menu > >doesn't see its thier I guess, please help, thanx in advance !!!! > > > > -- Adam > > Adam, > Here's the way I have installed packages from the CDROM > 1) mount the cdrom > 2) /stand/sysinstall > 3) set the media type to File System and use /cdrom as the fs > 4) continue with the install > > Good luck, > Tim Kelley > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any comments or opinions in this message are my own and may or may not reflect the comments or opinions of my present or previous employers. Jerry Kendall Border Network Technologies Inc. System Software Engineer Tel +1-416-368-7157 ext 303 jerry@border.com Fax +1-416-368-7178 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 08:05:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA01832 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from psiint.com (vv.psiint.com [204.189.53.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01792 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by psiint.com (8.6.12/4.03) id IAA38323; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:04:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:04:55 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Walton To: "Adam.Strohl." cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Post CD-ROM Adding Of Packages In-Reply-To: <199601300247.VAA23857@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Adam.Strohl. wrote: > I did the original install off of the CD, and now want to add additional > packages (such as XFree86), but when I run /stand/sysinstall and tell > it to do an add package (using the menu) it says that it can't load the > index file. I can browse the CD-Rom Drive , using mount, and it seems > ok from the shell, just that the install menu doesn't see its thier I > guess, please help, thanx in advance !!!! I've run into the same problem: After installation, sysinstall can't find the packages when you specify CD-ROM as the install media. The work-around I've found is to mount the CD (in /cdrom, for me) and then tell sysinstall to install the packages from an existing file system, giving it /cdrom as the path. That done, it works fine. Of course, this doesn't solve the underlying problem of accessing the CD directly with sysinstall. Anyone got a better solution? Dave ========================================================================== David Walton Programmer PSI INTERNATIONAL, Inc. email: dwalton@psiint.com 190 South Orchard #C200 Fax :(707)451-6484 Vacaville, CA 95688 Phone:(707)451-3503 ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 08:17:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA03090 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03083 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24593 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:17:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA23676 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:24:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05299; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:16:55 -0600 Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02334; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:16:54 -0600 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA02863; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:16:53 -0600 Message-Id: <9601301616.AA02863@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Sync on halt, xdm config and CDROM question To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:16:53 -0600 (CST) X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've got a few things. First good news. A month or so ago, I wrote in with a problem of sync failing on halt or reboot. Sometimes it would say that a process wouldn't die. Well, investigation showed that to be apache (0.85), killing it before halting and everything works fine. I haven't had time to try 1.0, but will soon. Now, my questions. 1) My next problem was getting xdm to let me log in without the account having a password (home machine, not a security risk). Anyway, I got mail back from an XFree86 guy saying xdm in 3.1.2a and 3.1.2b has a resource "AllowNullPasswd", but he doesn't say how to use it or where to put it. I started by putting in Xresources (in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm) as xdm*AllowNullPasswd: true. Then as xlogin*... then as just AllowNullPasswd but nothing worked. Where do I put it? And is that the right version of XFree86? It appears to be. I looked on XFree86's home page and found an update to xdm, I'll try that but, haven't been on the machine yet. 2) Looking through ads, I'm seeing 4x CD-ROM drives for SoundBlasters and such for less than $150. Which is getting rather attractive. Currently, I have a single speed SCSI CD-ROM and a SoundBlaster 16 with a CD-ROM port (empty, of course). The manual says that the IDE CD-ROM's are slower than the SCSI, but I got thing that 4x IDE would be faster that 1x SCSI. Opinions? Thanks, Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about. Oscar Wilde From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 08:30:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA04143 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ftp.com (ftp.com [128.127.2.122]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04095 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ftp.com by ftp.com ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:30:06 -0500 Received: from mailserv-H.ftp.com by ftp.com ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:30:06 -0500 Received: from nepal (nepal.ftp.com) by MAILSERV-H.FTP.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14450; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:30:15 -0500 Message-Id: <9601301630.AA14450@MAILSERV-H.FTP.COM> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:05:04 -0500 From: Shishir Belbase Organization: FTP Software, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Need help with FreeBSD configuration !! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I recently installed 2.1 on one of my x86 PCs. Can anyone point me to a direction where I can get information on the following problems ? I have checked out the www.freebsd.org, etc. but no luck so far !! 1. "sysinstall" doesn't let me add any more network interfaces. When I hit enter, it just returns me to the same menu option. 2. "xinit" fails to read the XF86Config file. Can't get X to run at all. 3. "init 0" says init is already running. Can't kill it either. I have to do "shutdown now". Is this normal. Instead of bothering others, can I just buy a book or hit a web site that might have these answers. Thank you. shishir+email@ftp.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 08:43:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA05372 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05354 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27008; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:43:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA24411; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:51:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05837; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:43:43 -0600 Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03037; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:43:42 -0600 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA02876; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:43:42 -0600 Message-Id: <9601301643.AA02876@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: strange routed problems To: shovey@buffnet.net (steve hovey) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:43:41 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "steve hovey" at Jan 30, 96 07:44:20 am X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, steve hovey said: > > > I gota problem. > > In order to get my cisco to route between subnets (I have 3 active on one > ring), I had to set RIP between them on the router. If you only have one cisco routing between 3 subnets (and the internet?), I don't really think you need to run a routing protocol. Pretty much 4 static routes should take care of you. > This gen's errors on my new machine on my third ring. It says over any > over about packet from unknown router 205.246.19.1 or it will say > unknown router 205.247.124.1 (19.1 is the cisco's ethernet interface, > then I give an ip alias - one for each other subnet). > So, if I put these routers in /etc/gateways, the errors stop, only my > fefault gateway of 205.247.125.1 keeps getting replaceed with > 205.246.19.1 which doesnt work and isnt correct- manually setting a > static route doesnt help. It still gets wiped. > Any ideas? This kind of sounds like incorrect hop counts. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com [License Disclaimer: this article is in the public domain. you may copy] [it and distribute it as long as you don't tell anybody I wrote it.... ] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 08:43:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA05382 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from iquest1.iquest.net (iquest1.iquest.net [206.27.192.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05361 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:43:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from iquest.net by iquest1.iquest.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #11) id m0thJ9i-000BFdC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:43 EST Received: from truly by iquest.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #16) id m0thAet-0003NeC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 02:39 EST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 02:39 EST X-Sender: partek@iquest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Anderson Subject: NTFS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there any support(or planned support) for NTFS in FreeBSD? Thanks, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 08:44:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA05427 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05392 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA12072; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:46:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:46:25 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601301646.JAA12072@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: davidg@Root.COM Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots In-Reply-To: <199601300824.AAA02224@Root.COM> References: <199601300824.AAA02224@Root.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk David Greenman writes: > >We have a problem with two 2.1.0-RELEASE machines. One is a P5-100 with > > If it is possible, please upgrade to 2.1-stable. -stable contains code > to detect stack overflows and panic more gracefully. It also has several > important bugfixes which may or may not help your specific problem. Is there anything stopping us from creating a patch from 2.1R to 2.1-stable as of today? It certainly would make it easier for a lot of folks to get the new code, and also improve our public relations. This leads me to this question. Is there anyway of getting the 2.1R bits from CVS? We're using the release tag for follow on code, so can we get back to the actual code used in the release? (I suppose we could specify a date, but I'm not sure what exact date the tree was burned from.) Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 09:57:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA11360 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from s1.GANet.NET (s1.GANet.NET [199.18.201.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11353 Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ec0@localhost) by s1.GANet.NET (8.6.11/8.6.11) id MAA23699; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:55:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:55:50 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Chet To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Stefan Esser , Craig Johnston , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: various questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -- ejc work: ejc@nasvr1.cb.att.com home: ec0@ganet.net On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > > I'd really love to have bytebench results for the SP3G with both > > WRITE-BACK and WRITE-THROUGH secondary cache. The Dirty Tag RAM > > seems to cost some $20, and it might be a good way to improve my > > systems effective memory throughput. > > dont have bytebench results, but i do have make world results. > > write-through: > 30638.79 real 16447.05 user 3895.20 sys > write-back: > 25740.88 real 15898.30 user 3779.36 sys > Hello I have the same mainboard, with a dx2/66 a make world takes about 28400 real for -stable, this is without the dirty tag sram. It looks like I should get the dirty tag sram for the 16%, but will it work with a Intel dx4/100? The Intel dx4/100 has a L1 write-back cache, will this cause any problems with the saturn-II chipset with L2 write-back cache? Peace, ejc ejc@nasvr1.cb.att.com > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life > i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:06:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA12253 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12218 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA01614 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:03:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199601301803.AA01614@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:03:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: Eric Chet "Re: various questions" (Jan 30, 12:55) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Eric Chet Subject: Re: various questions Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 30, 12:55, Eric Chet wrote: } Subject: Re: various questions } } } -- ejc } work: ejc@nasvr1.cb.att.com } home: ec0@ganet.net } } } On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: } } > On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: } > > I'd really love to have bytebench results for the SP3G with both } > > WRITE-BACK and WRITE-THROUGH secondary cache. The Dirty Tag RAM } > > seems to cost some $20, and it might be a good way to improve my } > > systems effective memory throughput. } > } > dont have bytebench results, but i do have make world results. } > } > write-through: } > 30638.79 real 16447.05 user 3895.20 sys } > write-back: } > 25740.88 real 15898.30 user 3779.36 sys } > } Hello } I have the same mainboard, with a dx2/66 a make world takes } about 28400 real for -stable, this is without the dirty tag sram. } It looks like I should get the dirty tag sram for the 16%, but will it work } with a Intel dx4/100? The Intel dx4/100 has a L1 write-back cache, will } this cause any problems with the saturn-II chipset with L2 write-back } cache? Well, I severly doubt you'll see a 16% improvement ... The different 'real' time measured is most probably caused by a different amount of (unrelated) load at the times of the compiles ... The 'user' and 'sys' times are much more reliable, and they indicate a 3% to 4% improvement over write-through ... The Dirty Tag RAM and write-back cache mode ought to make more of a difference on a DX4 system. But I doubt you'll see more than some 5% to 7% speedup. Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:19:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA13648 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from clothos.candle.com (clothos.Candle.Com [204.217.194.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13621 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from phobos.Candle.Com by clothos.candle.com with SMTP id AA09971 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:18:37 -0800 Received: from smtpgwy.Candle.Com by phobos.Candle.Com with SMTP id AA21777 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:18:35 -0800 Received: from ccMail by SMTPGWY.CANDLE.COM (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA823025889; Tue, 30 Jan 96 08:58:24 PST Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 08:58:24 PST From: "Paul Banks" Message-Id: <9600308230.AA823025889@SMTPGWY.CANDLE.COM> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Run BSD under DOS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It is possible to load and run BSD from a DOS partition? For various reasons, I can not re-format my hard disk to create unique partitions for BSD. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:20:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA13859 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13843 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:20:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA06966; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:16:32 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601301816.LAA06966@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Is there plans to implement ELF into FreeBSD/NetBSD? Linux has it. To: kallio@beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:16:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org, questions@netbsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Jan 30, 96 09:57:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I did search FAQ etc. on www.freebsd.org but fould nothing about ELF. > > > > > > Is there plans to implement it into NetBSD and/or FreeBSD? > > > > What do you feel is the compelling reason to support ELF instead > > of a.out as the native binary format? > > Maybe I do not know what you mean with a.out native, or what ELF is ... > > I have been told: > > We have Sun machines. If FreeBSD supports ELF I can run Sun Solaris i386 > binaries in FreeBSD. I can also run Linux ELF binaries. I can also run > many other ELF i386 binaries. ELF is more OS independed because it is > calling library functions by name. ELF is a file format. ELF is *not* a binary compatability standard. ELF is only something FreeBSD should support (as something other than a foreign ABI) if there is a good reason, other than change for change sake. You probably mean to ask if FreeBSD can run Linux binaries, or if FreeBSD can run SunOS binaries, not if it supports ELF. Linux supports ELF, but cannot run Solaris binaries; it's an issue of libraries, and support tools. For instance, in order to run a binary, you have to install it, and Solaris binaries expect Solaris install tools. > The big problem in FredBSD, NetBSD, Linux is the lack of good application > software: Word processing for example as a primary tool for microcomputer > users. I agree. I think WINE is more likely to provide a means of supporting these applications, since Windows is more prevalent than Solaris. FreeBSD and NetBSD can already run Linux binaries; most vendors have not yet moved to ELF for Linux (cv: NetScape, et al.) because they would orphan a large part of their market. > Maybe I am 100% wrong? One common binary format sounds very nice. If you > try to build Linux emulator, Solaris emulator, SCO emulator etc. I think > it is a big task. Building one ELF "emulator" sounds better. (is there > SCO ELF ;-) I do not know). Other than the Solaris emulator (which is in alpha testing) FreeBSD already has these ABI emulators, so you are too late. The "big task" has already been accomplished. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:36:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA15251 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:36:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15236 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA01413; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:36:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199601301836.KAA01413@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:46:25 MST." <199601301646.JAA12072@rocky.sri.MT.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:36:19 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >David Greenman writes: >> >We have a problem with two 2.1.0-RELEASE machines. One is a P5-100 with >> >> If it is possible, please upgrade to 2.1-stable. -stable contains code >> to detect stack overflows and panic more gracefully. It also has several >> important bugfixes which may or may not help your specific problem. > >Is there anything stopping us from creating a patch from 2.1R to >2.1-stable as of today? It certainly would make it easier for a lot of >folks to get the new code, and also improve our public relations. There is nothing stopping us from doing that, but such a patch would change daily and I don't think we should be in the business of maintaining it when SUP is available for this purpose. >This leads me to this question. Is there anyway of getting the 2.1R >bits from CVS? We're using the release tag for follow on code, so can >we get back to the actual code used in the release? (I suppose we could >specify a date, but I'm not sure what exact date the tree was burned >from.) RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:40:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA15685 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15568 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA05155; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:40:04 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:40:04 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dreams.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Do any of the old-time FreeBSD-ers have a dream configuration? Or actually as it is common in this not so good world: has anyone got an idea of a really shining configuration to run FreeBSD on for providing network services to a great number of PCs running dos/windows? (some of which maybe eventually *upgrading* to FreeBSD/X11) No - it isn't just a rhetorical question - I really will be given the money -- and told (already tommorow - with the specs) that if the thing I make out of it won't be good and up to the requirements for next xxxxx years my head will be cut. Yes, I do know you can't look into too far future, etc., but so it is... Sander. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:42:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA15796 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15783 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA12452; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:44:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:44:41 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601301844.LAA12452@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: davidg@Root.COM Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots In-Reply-To: <199601301836.KAA01413@Root.COM> References: <199601301646.JAA12072@rocky.sri.MT.net> <199601301836.KAA01413@Root.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk [ Make a patch that brings -stable up to today's patch-level ] > There is nothing stopping us from doing that, but such a patch > would change daily and I don't think we should be in the business of > maintaining it when SUP is available for this purpose. Except that sup implies full internet connectivity of a host, and patch assumes that they can ftp a file and patch their own system. SUP also requires quite a bit more network resources than most folks have. Also, I don't think we should do this as a matter of course, but I think there are some critical patches in the tree that alot more users could benefit from if we made a patch available. Let me state this another way. If *I* made a patch and an README to go with, would anyone object to announcing it and putting it up for ftp? Again, I'll make it clear that this patch is being done to fix a number of bugs in the 2.1R, but that the patch is un-supported, etc, etc.. blah blah blah. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:46:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA16218 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:46:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16209 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA01465; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:46:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199601301846.KAA01465@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:44:41 MST." <199601301844.LAA12452@rocky.sri.MT.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:46:50 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Let me state this another way. If *I* made a patch and an README to go >with, would anyone object to announcing it and putting it up for ftp? I don't have any problem with this. >Again, I'll make it clear that this patch is being done to fix a number >of bugs in the 2.1R, but that the patch is un-supported, etc, etc.. blah >blah blah. We'll be doing a 2.1-stable snapshot at some point in the not-too-distant future, too, so this might be obsolete rather quickly (although existing installations would still benefit). -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:49:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA16471 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:49:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16451 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00926; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:44:50 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:44:49 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "C.M" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CDROM SUPPORT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, C.M wrote: > I was just wondering that would FREEBSD support NEC CDR-271 cdrom > which i connected to my eide not through the soundblaster. My current > system is Pentium 75 with 16mb with Award Bios 4.50g. If you have any > information please advise me, any help is greatly appreciated. Support for ATAPI CDROMs is somewhat spotty in 2.1-R, it MIGHT work but there are no guarantees. Rest of the machine should be OK. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 10:53:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA16988 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.netcom.com (freebsd.netcom.com [198.211.79.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16972 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by freebsd.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id MAA17000; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:57:11 -0600 From: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Message-Id: <199601301857.MAA17000@freebsd.netcom.com> Subject: re: mysterious reboots To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:57:10 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk 2.1-unoff1 :-) I think it would be most helpfull to FreeBSD to have a small set of patches to 2.1R made available. Thanks to Nate for offering. Regards, Mark Hittinger Netcom/Dallas bugs@freebsd.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 11:19:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA19361 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from omedsrvb.omed.pitt.edu (omedsrvb.omed.pitt.edu [136.142.52.72]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19340 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:19:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by omedsrvb.omed.pitt.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Dec95-0330PM) id AA03049; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:21:59 -0500 Message-Id: <310E6FD7.41C6@vms.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:21:59 -0500 From: Carl Joel Kuzmich Organization: University of Pittsburgh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: bsd kernel X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org//mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all I'm having a hard time figuring out just what should and should not be in my kernel.... It is a WWW server "only" running the Netscape Commerce Server.... yet something just does not seem right..... When several people hit the machine simultaneously it just comes to a complete halt... ie... if I telnet to the machine with no one else logged in and no one is accessing a web page the machine will at times freeze???? I really think the kernel needs to be tuned but don't know where to start ...... Is there a set of items that should be in this kernel to improve performance....????? And if so what should these be set too????? Do you have any settings that you would suggest as a starting point???? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Carl Joel Kuzmich (412) 648-1099 | Love is a better teacher than duty | University of Pittsburgh | - Albert Einstein | Office of Medical Education Pittsburgh, PA 15261 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 11:29:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA20232 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from halon.sybase.com (halon.sybase.com [192.138.151.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20218 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.sybase.com (sybgate) by halon.sybase.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA26485; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:29:23 -0800 Received: from teak.sybase.com by smtp1.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.4) id AA29912; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:29:11 PST Received: by teak.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-SVR4/SybEC3.5) id AA19233; Tue, 30 Jan 96 14:29:11 EST Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 14:29:11 EST From: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk) Message-Id: <9601301929.AA19233@teak.sybase.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: NFS in Sun environment Cc: jeffa@sybase.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I think I understand the weak authentication problem that NFS on non-Sun platforms has when trying to mount a Sun exported NIS NFS disk. So, since I don't run the Sun servers I'm trying to work around this. One of the things that we do have is pcnfsd running to allow PC's to authenticate themselves when they want to mount NFS stuff. Usually this is intended for product like Netmanage ChameleonNFS. Is there any way that I can convince mount to contact a pcnfsd for authentication when doing a mount to a Sun System? This would allow me to get around this problem using an already existing solution. If not, any ideas how hard it would be to cobble up a mount_nfs to do this? Thanks, - Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 11:40:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA21523 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:40:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from border.com (janus.border.com [199.71.190.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21407 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by janus.border.com id <20481>; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:45:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:39:15 -0500 From: Jerry Kendall To: David Greenman Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Bugs in 2.1R (Re: Mysterious reboots) In-Reply-To: <199601301846.KAA01465@Root.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <96Jan30.144546est.20481@janus.border.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, David Greenman wrote: > > >Again, I'll make it clear that this patch is being done to fix a number > >of bugs in the 2.1R, but that the patch is un-supported, etc, etc.. blah > >blah blah. Is there a list of these bugs ???? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any comments or opinions in this message are my own and may or may not reflect the comments or opinions of my present or previous employers. Jerry Kendall Border Network Technologies Inc. System Software Engineer Tel +1-416-368-7157 ext 303 jerry@border.com Fax +1-416-368-7178 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 11:41:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA21817 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21787 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA09588 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:43:44 -0500 Received: from buffnet5.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa14848; 30 Jan 96 14:45 EST Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:44:59 -0500 (EST) From: steve hovey To: Nate Williams cc: davidg@root.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots In-Reply-To: <199601301646.JAA12072@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > David Greenman writes: > > >We have a problem with two 2.1.0-RELEASE machines. One is a P5-100 with > > > > If it is possible, please upgrade to 2.1-stable. -stable contains code > > to detect stack overflows and panic more gracefully. It also has several > > important bugfixes which may or may not help your specific problem. > > Is there anything stopping us from creating a patch from 2.1R to > 2.1-stable as of today? It certainly would make it easier for a lot of > folks to get the new code, and also improve our public relations. > While there are problems - there are always problems. Anyone who has purchased one of the high prices unixes out there cannot complain about freebsd. Ive had many more problem with SCO than with freebsd, and much less help. Plus I have source with freebsd, so if nobody has an answer I can hack my own! All in all the creators of freebsd have done one hell of a wonderful job! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 11:46:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA22406 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA22383 Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:46:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199601301946.LAA22383@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: make world timess To: se@ZPR.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:46:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601301027.AA16365@Sysiphos> from "Stefan Esser" at Jan 30, 96 11:26:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > } write-through: > } 30638.79 real 16447.05 user 3895.20 sys > } write-back: > } 25740.88 real 15898.30 user 3779.36 sys > > Thanks! > > Those are as good, if not better, > than the bogus byte bench results :) > > Seems you see some 3% to 4% improved > user/system time (this is a 486DX2/66, > I assume ... ?) AMD486-66DX2, ASUS SP3G, 8MB (swap swap swap swap) DEC scsi-ii disk (1/2 gig sold by rod grimes about a year ago, whole system from him) conditions were very similar each time: no one logged in, xdm and xserver running, quiet but for the 'make world 2>&1 | tee make.out' i have to try it again now that i have 16MB ;) > DX2/66 22902.31 real 17493.97 user 3495.63 sys > AMD5x86 16795.20 real 11689.23 user 2822.52 sys *1.50 (user) > P133 13449.10 real 8789.22 user 2073.65 sys *1.33 (user) > > Since I just went from a 486DX2/66 to > an AMD 5x86, I thought I might just > post my make world result, and have > added a 2.1R make world posted by JKH > a few weeks ago ... > > Seems that an AMD 5x86 is more than > halfway towards a P133 :) :) cost of an AMD 5x86 ? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 12:01:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA23905 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA23899 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA037772079; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:01:19 -0800 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA297372078; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:01:18 -0800 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA294182077; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:01:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199601302001.AA294182077@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Querying for grown defects? Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:01:17 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is there any way from FreeBSD to query a SCSI drive for grown defects (remapped sectors)? I've taken a look at scsi(8), but I've absolutely no idea what parameters to use (assuming that scsi(8) can even be used for this). I think my root disk is going south on me, and I'd like to find out if I've properly enabled the automatic sector remapping on the drive. -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 12:18:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA25573 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25561 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA12608; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:21:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:21:02 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601302021.NAA12608@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Jerry Kendall Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bugs in 2.1R (Re: Mysterious reboots) In-Reply-To: <96Jan30.144546est.20481@janus.border.com> References: <199601301846.KAA01465@Root.COM> <96Jan30.144546est.20481@janus.border.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jerry Kendall writes: > > On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, David Greenman wrote: > > > > > >Again, I'll make it clear that this patch is being done to fix a number > > >of bugs in the 2.1R, but that the patch is un-supported, etc, etc.. blah > > >blah blah. > > Is there a list of these bugs ???? In the log messages of the bug-fixes. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 12:27:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA26368 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from s1.GANet.NET (s1.GANet.NET [199.18.201.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26356 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ec0@localhost) by s1.GANet.NET (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA27032; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:26:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:26:17 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Chet To: Stefan Esser cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: various questions In-Reply-To: <199601301803.AA01614@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > The Dirty Tag RAM and write-back cache mode ought to make > more of a difference on a DX4 system. But I doubt you'll > see more than some 5% to 7% speedup. Thanks Stefan I was looking at the wrong numbers. Are there any problems using a Intel DX4(which has write-back L1) on a SP3G with write-back L2 cache? The SP3G is said to have problems, with write-back L1 && L2. Peace, ejc > > Regards, STefan > -- > Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 > Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 > ============================================================================== > http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 12:36:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27138 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:36:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27130 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:36:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA04371 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:35:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199601302035.AA04371@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:35:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" "make world timess" (Jan 30, 11:46) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: make world timess Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 30, 11:46, "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: } Subject: make world timess } > } write-through: } > } 30638.79 real 16447.05 user 3895.20 sys } > } write-back: } > } 25740.88 real 15898.30 user 3779.36 sys } AMD486-66DX2, ASUS SP3G, 8MB (swap swap swap swap) DEC } scsi-ii disk (1/2 gig sold by rod grimes about a year ago, } whole system from him) Ok. You've got (relatively) little DRAM. This explains the variance in real time observed ... } conditions were very similar each time: no one logged in, } xdm and xserver running, quiet but for the 'make world 2>&1 } | tee make.out' } } i have to try it again now that i have 16MB ;) O well, which luxury ;-) But it is very interesting to see how much useful work can be done with such a system. Pentiums are only good for playing 3D games, what else needs that much CPU power :-) } cost of an AMD 5x86 ? I've paid some $107 (*1.45DM/$ * 1.15 VAT). The Cyrix 5x86-100 seems to be sold for the same price, but I've heard it is no faster in the SP3G, since it needs special chip set support. (I could buy the AMD in a local shop, and I'm a little conservative and it seemed a smaller step than the Cyrix :) The Cyrix got a branch target cache and other "Pentium class" features. It is said to beat a P100 (with asynch. cache), though I really doubt it, given the limited memory performance (4 byte vs. 8 byte memory interface of the 486 resp. Pentium.). Regards, Stefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 12:44:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27679 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27674 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07252; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:41:07 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601302041.NAA07252@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: inetd/deamon To: ahill@interconnect.com.au (Anthony Hill) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:41:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, licau@ebs08.eb.uah.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Anthony Hill" at Jan 30, 96 10:06:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > apache as a deamon - the docs recommend against using apache from inetd. > > > (Anyone know why ?) > > > > Apache can manage multiple connections better than inetd can -- Apache > > spawns off 4 or so instances; inetd spawns 1 for every connection, which > > can get costly in terms of time and memory. > > Wouldnt the habit of spawning more children than is actually required > mean that while running as a deamon is more efficiant time wise, but that > running under inetd is more efficiant memory wise ? Is 1004 processes significantly less efficient than 1000 processes? 8-). > Also do you know if there are any other reasons for not running apache > from inetd ? (The site I run is VERY lightly hit - and this is not about > to change) I figure the overhead of having httpd's running all the time > is not worth the small improvement in response when is actually used, > unless of course, other factors are also at play here. Inetd could decide that the httpd was "respawnging too rapidly" and choke it off, for one. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 12:46:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27748 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27743 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA04431 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:45:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199601302045.AA04431@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:45:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: Eric Chet "Re: various questions" (Jan 30, 15:26) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Eric Chet Subject: Re: various questions Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 30, 15:26, Eric Chet wrote: } Subject: Re: various questions } } > The Dirty Tag RAM and write-back cache mode ought to make } > more of a difference on a DX4 system. But I doubt you'll } > see more than some 5% to 7% speedup. } } Thanks Stefan } } I was looking at the wrong numbers. Are there any problems } using a Intel DX4(which has write-back L1) on a SP3G with write-back } L2 cache? The SP3G is said to have problems, with write-back L1 && L2. The Saturn technical data book contains a section on supported cache configurations, and explicitly states, that ONLY ONE of the caches can operate in write-back mode. This is a design limititation. In fact it seems like a primary cache is not suypported at all. I.e. it can't be used with the Pentium Overdrive nor any other CPU, AFAIK. (I.e. I never heard of anybody using a i486DX4 with WB primary cache in a motherboard with Saturn chip set). I suppose a write-back primary cache had more effect on effective throughput than a WB secondary cache, but the Saturn was faster with both caches set to write-through than most other 486 chip sets with WB support, anyway. Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 12:46:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27774 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tad.cetlink.net (tad-external.cetlink.net [206.31.104.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27762 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tad.cetlink.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00406 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:47:24 -0500 From: Jeffrey Wheat Message-Id: <199601302047.PAA00406@tad.cetlink.net> Subject: Soundblaster 16 help To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:47:23 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I have just upgraded from NetBSD to FreeBSD 2.1R and want to get my soundcard and cdrom to work. I have built a new kernel and I can see that my soundcard is detected on boot-up, but I am wondering if I need to add any devices to /dev? I tried to do a ./MAKEDEV snd and it craps out with a bunch of errors. I tried to use "say" and it reports that there is no /dev/dsp file. Any suggestions to get this to work? My CDROM is a sony cd525e connected as master on a VLB IDE card. I have been able to mount cd's and there seems to be no problems accessing the drive. How would I go about playing music cd's in it? Many thanks in advance! Attached are my dmesg dumps and kernel CONF file. -jeff # dmesg FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #1: Mon Jan 29 19:27:44 EST 1996 root@tad.cetlink.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/TAD CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14729216 (14384K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 9 on isa ed0: address 00:c0:f0:06:c5:c6, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed1 at 0x360-0x37f irq 10 on isa ed1: address 00:00:b4:64:27:04, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16450 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16450 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 765 fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, iordy atapi0.0: unknown phase aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa aha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aha0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST12550N 0014" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(aha0:0:0): Direct-Access 2040MB (4178874 512 byte sectors) sd0(aha0:0:0): with 2708 cyls, 19 heads, and an average 81 sectors/track (aha0:2:0): "HP HP35480A 1109" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(aha0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, variable blocks, write-enabled npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sb0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 7 on isa sbxvo0: sbmidi0 at 0x300 on isa wcd0: media changed # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" ident TAD maxusers 32 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on sd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr #disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #controller ncr0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr #device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr #device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr #device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr #device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device lpt2 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 9 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr device ed1 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's ############### # options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt # Enable the kernel debugger. # options DDB # # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # options KTRACE #kernel tracing # pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter options GATEWAY #internetwork gateway options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about options IPACCT #ipaccounting # dropped packets options QUOTA #enable disk quotas options SCSI_REPORT_GEOMETRY pseudo-device log #Kernel syslog interface (/dev/klog) pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) #options "TUNE_1542" # Audio drivers: `snd', `sb', `pas', `gus', `pca' # # snd: Voxware sound support code # sb: SoundBlaster PCM - SoundBlaster, SB Pro, SB16, ProAudioSpectrum # sbxvi: SoundBlaster 16 # sbmidi: SoundBlaster 16 MIDI interface # # Beware! The addresses specified below are also hard-coded in # i386/isa/sound/sound_config.h. If you change the values here, you # must also change the values in the include file. # # pca: PCM audio through your PC speaker # # If you don't have a lpt0 device at IRQ 7, you can remove the # ``conflicts'' specification in the appropriate device entries below. # # The i386/isa/sound/sound.doc has more information. # Controls all sound devices controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 7 # Not controlled by `snd' #device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 tty From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 12:55:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA28592 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28576 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA01231; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:52:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:52:07 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Dave Cash cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installation Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Dave Cash wrote: [skipped] > finally work. However, the boot manager does not seem to work. The only > noticeable change to the system after BSD has been installed is that the > C: partition on GRAMPS has been made inactive and my only choice is to > boot from flopopy and use fdisk to set that partition to be active, since > my computer will not boot from a fixed disk without an active partition. That's a common occurance, happened to me. You had the right fix. > And in my BIOS, my only boot options are "A:, C:" or "C:, A:". And when > I set the C: partition to be the active partition, my computer just boots > right into Windows 95 and doesn't seem to be aware that the might FreeBSD > is even in its midst... Did you install the Boot Manager? Windows 95 may be interfereing, a friend of mine yesterday reminded me that win95 has some anti-bootvirus protection, and installing a boot manager may not make it happy. > Any ideas? The only thing I have not tried is to repartition GRAMPS so > that C: becomes about 382 MB and I make a 100 MB partition for the core > stuff of FreeBSD (could I get away with a smaller space?) on GRAMPS so > that both are able to boot from GRAMPS. Then I could devote the large > partition on PEANUT to the rest of FreeBSD...so should I go to the > trouble to repartition GRAMPS or is this not the answer? Any help would > be appreciated. That would work, but win95 will still complain about a boot sector problem. (maybe, haven't tried it) You can boot freebsd from the floppy, ie typing at Boot: wd(1,a)/kernel A friend and I did that for a while. He's still doing it because of the possible win95 trouble, and I installed OS/2's Boot Manager and it works great. Hope this helps. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:01:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29248 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29231 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA01244; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:58:01 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Eric Eiseman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel won't ID internal modem on COM2 In-Reply-To: <310daca96029002@cliff.uoknor.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Eric Eiseman wrote: > Well, I just slapped the CD-ROM release of FreeBSD 2.1.0 on my machine and > most things work great. However, I can't get it to identify my Gateway 2000 > 14.4kbps internal modem on COM2 (read IRQ3, 0x2f8-0x2ff). I have an Acer > PCI/ISA motherboard with a 16550A compatable UART. The modem is in an ISA > slot. Attached are the the config file for the compile of my kernel and the > output from dmesg. The problem is either your modem is refusing to be probed, or the port and/or IRQ are wrong, or there is a conflict. Are you sure those are the correct settings? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:05:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29596 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29587 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA07290; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:03:31 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601302103.OAA07290@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: questions related to getting freeBSD to boot from HD after To: zing@pacificws.com (Christopher Wilkins) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:03:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9601291909.AA17220@pulm1.accessone.com> from "Christopher Wilkins" at Jan 29, 96 11:09:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 1) Does freeBSD 2.1 support a translating BIOS or do I need to disable that? > I have three EIDE drives, (540 MB, 1.2 GB, 1.2 GB) and want to be able to > run both Windows 95 and freeBSD. I think Windows needs either a translating > BIOS or software to enable it to use the larger hard drives. If freeBSD does > not support a translating BIOS, then I guess I will need to install Western > Digital's ontrack software that comes with their drives. FreeBSD itself doesn't use BIOS. It's a protected mode OS. FreeBSD's second stage boot use BIOS calls to read the kernel and then switched to protected mode to run it. You are limited to locating FreeBSD below BIOS cylinder 1024 (the boot track, disklabel, slice 'a', and replacement sectors, if BAD144 sector sparing is enabled), since the second stage boot must do BIOS-based I/O for all of these things. If you are using OnTrack DiskManager 6.x or 7.x, another boot block based geometry-to-LBA translation TSR, or a card BIOS that hooks INT 13 to make LBA calls, the second stage boot should be able to load from any location on the disk up to 8G. If you aren't using an INT 13 redirector, you are limited to the ISA I/O limit of 500M (16 vs 24 bits). Windows95 will have the same problems unless it is using a protected mode disk driver. Find out by: o Right button down on "My Computer" o Select "Properties" o Click the "Performance" tab of the "System Properties" dialog In the center of the tab, it will either say "Your system is configured for optimal performance" (indicating it is using protect mode disk drivers for all disks), or it will give a (potentially scrolling) list box of non-protected mode (non "32 bit") drivers that are in use. If any drivers are non-protected mode drivers, Windows95 will have the same limitations as FreeBSD regarding big IDE disks. Note: If you have an RZ1000 based IDE controller (about 1/3 of all IDE controllers), you *MUST* turn off 32 bit drivers to avoid silent corruption of your data, unless you can setup, rejumper, or BIOS advanced configuration reset block transfer. You do this by: o In the "Advanced settings" group box of the "Performance" tab, select the "File system..." button. o In the "File System Properties" dialog, click the "Troubleshooting" tab. o Check the "Disable all 32 bit protect-mode disk drivers" box. o OK your way out and OK the "Reboot for changes to take effect". This will mean that you are limited to LBA-base INT 13 redirectors for greater than 500M drives, but at least you won't silently lose data from your Windows95 disk I/O. > 2) Does the freeBSD 2.1 install have a problem with putting the boot manager > on a different disk than the one that I am installing freeBSD onto? I am > trying to install freeBSD onto part of disk E:(1.2 GB). I want to have a 511 > MB DOS partion on it and freeBSD on the rest. If I understand correctly, the > boot manager needs to go on at the beginning of drive C:(540 MB). What do I > need to do to insure that this happens? I have seen a problem with this when the first disk has a disk manager (like Ontrack 6.x or 7.x) in the boot track, but the second disk does not. You should install the boot manager from DOS, not FreeBSD, if this is the case. To be extra careful, you should create then delete a DOS partition from the second drive (after "sys"ing it) so that the OnTrack (or similar) stuff gets to intercept the second disk as well. > 3) Are there any special problems trying to have freeBSD coexist with > Windows 95? Win 95 is already installed. If Win95 is installed second, it will blow away the MBR on the disk so it can change the boot message from "Booting DOS" to "Booting Windows"; if you do this, you will have to reinstall the boot manager by booting windows, downloading/copying from CDROM the boot selector DOS install, and then: o Click the "Start" menu buttom o Select "Shutdown..." o Click the "Restart computer in MS-DOS mode" radio button in the "Shut Down Windows" dialog. o Click "OK". o When the DOS prompt comes up, install the boot manager. This is because Windows95 will prevent you from writing the boot track (this is an anti-virus "feature"). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:08:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29741 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29731 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01254; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:00:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:00:33 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Irvine Short cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, mark@grondar.za Subject: Re: Maxoptix Tahiti-II Removable Read-Write Optical drive In-Reply-To: <44CEE3B4FC4@pcm.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Irvine Short wrote: > Anyone know if I can use this drive under FreebSD 2.1.0-Release? I doubt it, unless it's a SCSI device, then you have an edge chance. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:09:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29827 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29807 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA07346; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:07:08 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601302107.OAA07346@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NTFS To: partek@iquest.net (David Anderson) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:07:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "David Anderson" at Jan 30, 96 02:39:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Is there any support(or planned support) for NTFS in FreeBSD? There is planned support. There was an anouncement on -hackers of a port of the Linux read-only NTFS quite some time ago. Check the list archive on www.freebsd.org. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:13:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA00129 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00111 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA07365; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:10:12 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601302110.OAA07365@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: strange routed problems To: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:10:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: shovey@buffnet.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601301643.AA02876@kermit.acs.uswest.com> from "Paul T. Root" at Jan 30, 96 10:43:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com > > [License Disclaimer: this article is in the public domain. you may copy] > [it and distribute it as long as you don't tell anybody I wrote it.... ] I hear US West is end-pointing FR connection on the Internet now. Do you have any contact information for this? I'd prefer to go to US West instead of Internet Direct, sine I.D. is way out of my proce range ($220/month endpointing charges for a 56k/64k FR line). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:17:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA00430 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00400 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01267; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:14:54 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:14:53 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Maguire cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems booting FreeBSD or Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <96Jan29.131824est.85763@firewall.telco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Mark Maguire wrote: > or to Windows 95, which is on the C: drive. During the installation of FreeBSD > I also selected the BootMgr option, but it doesn't seem to be working. Instead > there is a line (approx.msg.) insert boot diskette in drive a:, which keeps > coming up. What I need to know is how to get rid of this so that I can select > between booting Windows95 from the C: drive or FreeBSD from the D: drive? Hm. You might check with FDISK and make sure one of your paritions is marked as "active". You might have a smart BIOS that doesn't spit out the Missing Operating System message. What size of disk do you have, and does your BIOS support EIDE? > Also > are you planning on supporting the Teac 4x CDROM in future releases? I seem to remember something about Teac not providing specs, so I don't think so. I would really love it since I have one of these too (which is getting dumped for SCSI and a Plextor next week). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:49:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02794 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from stormbringer.netural.com (root@stormbringer.NETural.com [206.54.248.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02735 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thekind@localhost) by stormbringer.netural.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA02460; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:48:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:48:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam W. Dace" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Stable Backup Solutions... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone! Just thought I'd toss this idea out and see what everyone thinks. I'm still relatively new to FreeBSD, and have checked about for a good backup solution to backup our network here. The only one I've found that I -like- is bru, and I -don't- like the cost. dump seems rather old/icky/nasty/doesn't work, tar doesn't do error-recovery well (so i've heard) and afio doesn't have a front-end. So. I'm thinking of writing what will hopefully be a small perl program, that will use the wonderous features of find and afio to do full/incremental/differental backups, hopefully across many machines (using ssh if I'm lucky). Sys Admins, users, etc...what do you use? | Adam W. Dace | NETural Communications, Inc. | | Webmaster | Paying too much for your Net access? | | http://www.NETural.com/ | NETural Voice: (312) 819-2231 | From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:52:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03184 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from stormbringer.netural.com (root@stormbringer.NETural.com [206.54.248.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03120 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thekind@localhost) by stormbringer.netural.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA02515; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:51:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:51:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam W. Dace" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Contributing to the FreeBSD project Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Once again, greetings all. I was wondering what kind of procedure is normally followed to "give" software into the FreeBSD project. I.e. If I write my backup script, it works great, etc, and I want it to be available so that noone else reinvents the wheel, how would I go about it? One thing I've noticed Linux has that FreeBSD doesn't seem to, is a number of sites where one can simple upload their little package, and it will be indexed among the many other little packages there. Not exactly elegant, barely organized, but -extremely- popular. Anyone? BTW, our user-machine/FTP server here still has 100+MB free, if there isn't such a "contrib" method, I'm more than happy to start one up here... | Adam W. Dace | NETural Communications, Inc. | | Webmaster | Paying too much for your Net access? | | http://www.NETural.com/ | NETural Voice: (312) 819-2231 | From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:54:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03380 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from stormbringer.netural.com (root@stormbringer.NETural.com [206.54.248.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03374 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thekind@localhost) by stormbringer.netural.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA02529; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:54:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:54:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam W. Dace" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Connectix Quick-Cam...Yea/Na? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone out there yet have a qcam? I got my just yesterday, have it working well with Linux at home, and am wondering if anyone has done the work to port some of this cool software to FreeBSD? If not, I might take a crack at it myself. Also, if anyone's interested, I'll be setting up a directory on our ftp server -- ftp.netural.com:/pub/linux/qcam, and attempting to mirror all of the software out there that's available for this awesomely cool, inexpensive device. I have a friend (one of several) who are already running web-pages that do image-grabs from the camera and put it up on their pages. Please check out http://spunky.roadkill.com/~unwin for an example. At the bottom of the page is a link to the QuickCam Reverse Engineer Project...those darn big companies, when will they learn they can't hide what people want to know? | Adam W. Dace | NETural Communications, Inc. | | Webmaster | Paying too much for your Net access? | | http://www.NETural.com/ | NETural Voice: (312) 819-2231 | From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:56:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03447 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03275 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA27715; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:36:55 +0100 Received: (from wosch@localhost) by localhost (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA00354; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:03:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:03:54 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider Message-Id: <199601302003.VAA00354@localhost> To: Weston Ruch <103350.3250@compuserve.com> Cc: INTERNET Subject: Process Table entries In-Reply-To: <960123030316_103350.3250_JHL68-1@CompuServe.COM> References: <960123030316_103350.3250_JHL68-1@CompuServe.COM> Reply-to: Wolfram Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Weston Ruch writes: >Can anyone tell me the definitions of the fields in the files > /proc/"pid"/status ? sys/miscfs/procfs/procfs_status.c: /* comm pid ppid pgid sid maj,min ctty,sldr start ut st wmsg uid groups ... */ Wolfram From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 13:57:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03646 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [142.77.249.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03557 Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21071; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:55:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:55:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: current@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: sup server/system builds Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I couldn't think of a better (or worse) subject, and the one that is there isn't very informative, so apologies for that... now, I've setup one of my machines as a supfile server, right now with current/ports being kept up to date on a daily basis. (the link is sllloooowwww, but its there if anyone really needs it...'sup.ki.net' will work) What I want to know is how do ppl maintain both a sup server on a machine, as well as maintain their -current implementation without messing up the sup server side of things. I tried to sup to the same machine,but a different directory, but that doesn't work. If I build in the same directories, then if someone sup's in from my machine, they'll get a mess of files that they don't need. I figure I'm probably missing something (find . -print | cpio... could be one solution, altho messy, I would think), so hopefully someone can give me a guiding hand on this? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 14:07:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA04609 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:07:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from eel.dataplex.net (EEL.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04596 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [199.183.109.242] (cod [199.183.109.242]) by eel.dataplex.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA07811; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:07:26 -0600 X-Sender: rkw@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:07:29 -0600 To: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: re: mysterious reboots Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >2.1-unoff1 :-) I think it would be most helpfull to FreeBSD to have a small >set of patches to 2.1R made available. Thanks to Nate for offering. The source conversion from 2.1-R to -stable can be made by CTM. If you have the CDROM, the files are very small. See the FAQ about ctm. It was written before the -stable version was available but tells you how to set it up and use it. The files that you need are presently from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ctm There is also a README file that tells you the particulars relating to -stable. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 14:17:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05680 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05654 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00377; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:16:53 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:16:52 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: Jeffrey Wheat cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Soundblaster 16 help In-Reply-To: <199601302047.PAA00406@tad.cetlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Try ./MAKEDEV snd0 -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 14:20:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA06133 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gallium.csusb.edu (gallium.csusb.edu [139.182.6.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA06070 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by gallium.csusb.edu (5.4.2/200.1.1.4) id AA16974; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:15:23 -0800 From: pphanso@gallium.csusb.edu (Prinaya Phansopon) Message-Id: <9601302215.AA16974@gallium.csusb.edu> Subject: installation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:15:23 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am a new user, and I have been trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 by CDROM but it seem to me that I cannot install it. From Boot disk, I tried disable devices on my PC but I cannot get them right. Is there an e easy way to install FreeBSD, or what should I do? Thank you, Prinya Phansopon My eMail address is pphanso@gallium.csusb.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 14:25:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA07498 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.noc.netcom.net (ns3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07490 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [206.215.142.10]) by ns3.noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA27248; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:24:35 -0800 Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0-206) id AA23066; Tue, 30 Jan 96 14:24:13 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601302224.AA23066@tera.com> Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots To: nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:24:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: davidg@Root.COM, nate@sri.MT.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601301844.LAA12452@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Jan 30, 96 11:44:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Nate Williams: > > [ Make a patch that brings -stable up to today's patch-level ] > [[ &c re 2.1 ]] Arrrgh, I think I'll wait a few (to a few + N) weeks before I upgrade... . I'll be watching to see when 2.1.N really is stable! gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 14:28:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA11265 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:28:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11046 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl (uucp@localhost) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.11) with UUCP id XAA29249 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:27:51 +0100 Received: (from xaa@localhost) by xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.3/8.6.12) id XAA13065 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:23:06 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199601302223.XAA13065@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: poppassd ported to FreeBSD? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:23:05 +0100 (MET) From: "Mark Huizer" Reply-To: xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi hi... this must have been done before :-) I've seen messages in the past. Does anyone have a ported version of the poppassd program? I'll promise to look at a version for /usr/ports if some sends it to me :-) Greetings, Mark Huizer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Mark Huizer - xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl - markh@win.tue.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 14:32:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA11638 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11626 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA13313; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:35:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:35:13 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601302235.PAA13313@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Cc: nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious reboots In-Reply-To: <9601302224.AA23066@tera.com> References: <199601301844.LAA12452@rocky.sri.MT.net> <9601302224.AA23066@tera.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Gary Kline writes: > According to Nate Williams: > > > > [ Make a patch that brings -stable up to today's patch-level ] > > > > [[ &c re 2.1 ]] > > Arrrgh, I think I'll wait a few (to a few + N) weeks > before I upgrade... . I'll be watching to see when > 2.1.N really is stable! 2.1 *is* really stable. Why do you think it isn't? I'm just planning on make a one-shot (kernel-only + whatever else is necessary) patch to allow folks easy access to the bugs fixed in the -stable branch since 2.1R. The main thing updated the updated Adaptec driver code, although I will try and summarize the changes when I make them available. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 14:33:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA11687 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.uchsc.edu (phoenix.UCHSC.EDU [140.226.250.80]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11672 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dar@localhost) by phoenix.uchsc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01845; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:33:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:33:01 -0700 (MST) From: Dave Richards To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3c509 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I have a question regarding FreeBSD's support for the 3c509 network card... The document http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook50.html#52 says the device driver for this outstanding card is buggy.. Has the device driver been fixed in the new 2.1 release? Does the driver, if fixed, take advantage of the 3c509's parallel tasking architechture? Thanks, Dave Richards ================================================================= Network Administrator VA Hospital; University of Denver email: dar@phoenix.uchsc.edu web: http://www.dcb.du.edu/~drichard From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 14:42:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA12392 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from elbereth.blueberry.co.uk (surfs-up.demon.co.uk [158.152.128.94]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12064 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by elbereth.blueberry.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00489 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:33:18 GMT From: Nik Clayton Message-Id: <199601302233.WAA00489@elbereth.blueberry.co.uk> Subject: Posting news from Netscape 2.0b6 To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:33:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Anyone running Netscape 2.0b6 on a FreeBSD system under Linux compatability mode? It's just refused to post a message for me, with the server rejecting the message as being too old (the NNTP server thought that the message was dated some time in 1960!) A poke around Netscape's site didn't list this as a known problem with b6, and careful testing (to a .test group) shows that I can repeat the behaviour. So I'm assuming this is a problem with the Linux emulation? Or my setup. Anyone else? N -- --+=[ Blueberry Hill Blueberry Design ]=+-- --+=[ http://www.blueberry.co.uk/ 1/9 Chelsea Harbour Design Centre, ]=+-- --+=[ WebMaster@blueberry.co.uk London, England, SW10 0XE ]=+-- --+=[ Have you hugged your SysAdmin today? Or given him some chocolate? ]=+-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 15:21:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA16834 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:21:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from apple.demon.co.uk (apple.demon.co.uk [158.152.24.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16700 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dac@localhost) by apple.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00281 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:19:26 GMT Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:19:26 GMT From: David Clear Message-Id: <199601302319.XAA00281@apple.demon.co.uk> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Does FreeBSD support the HP T1000 internal 800Mb Travan tape drive? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The subject says it all really. I want to buy a cheap backup device and HP's Colorado T1000 looks pretty good. I'm running FreeBSD 2.1. Will it work? Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 16:04:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21217 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21148 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01I0ML5S0E7A8WZW02@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:03:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:03:40 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: DOH! Installed DES, am locked out now... To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I0ML5S0F548WZW02@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm sorry, I know this has been discussed, I think I even read the solution but forgot. I installed DES on my computer, and now can't log in under any account. How do I boot up and mount my root directory as root without a password. Can this be done from the BOOT prompt, or do I need a boot diskette, because I don't have the latter. Thanks John From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 16:16:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA22191 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw3.att.com (gw4.att.com [204.179.186.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22119 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihlpf.UUCP by ig4.att.att.com id AA00911; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:08:49 EST Message-Id: <9601310008.AA00911@ig4.att.att.com> From: kav@ihlpf.att.com (Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261) Date: 30 Jan 96 11:20:00 -0600 To: Michael Smith Original-From: ihlpf!kav (Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261) Original-To: Michael Smith Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.freebsd.org, mpf@marconi.att.com Subject: Re: Problems installing 2.1 CDROM Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Michael, Thanks for the response. Yes, we had the CD in when we booted the system (the CD installation boots right off the CD from DOS). Also, we did the W command in the slice/partition editors and also tried waiting (as recommended by the install program) until later for the final "commit". I am suspicious that the problem may be related to the 2940 SCSI controller driver. I saw some posts on netnews regarding some buggy behavior in the driver. Have you heard anything about this? Thanks, Kurt Vangsness AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Il kav@ihlpf.ih.att.com > > Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261 stands accused of saying: > > During the boot we notice that the probe for CD-ROM drive the following > > is reported: > > > > UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 > > not ready to ready transition: medium may have changed > > Harmless. > > > Then, if we proceed with the installation, we can get into the installation > > menu system and configure the FreeBSD partitions. When we continue with the > > installation, we get a kernel panic when the installation trys to start > > loading from the CD-ROM. The amusing panic is: "Going nowhere without my init!" > > which appears to be from kern/kern_exit.c > > Did you have the CD in when you booted the system? Did you use the 'W'rite > option in either the slice editor or the partition editor? > > > Kurt Vangsness > > > > P.S. I noticed that there doesn't appear to be a way to look at the > > kernel boot probe messages from the installation menu anymore. I remember > > that an older version allowed you to do that and I found it very useful > > in cases such as this problem. Is it still there but just hidden somehow? > > Hit ScrollLock and use the cursor keys. > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ > ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 16:23:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA22651 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:23:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from argus.flash.net (root@argus.flash.net [206.149.25.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22634 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by argus.flash.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01517; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:22:25 -0600 From: mailing list account Message-Id: <199601310022.SAA01517@argus.flash.net> Subject: Re: Maxoptix Tahiti-II Removable Read-Write Optical drive To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:22:24 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 30, 96 01:00:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply: > On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Irvine Short wrote: > > > Anyone know if I can use this drive under FreebSD 2.1.0-Release? > > I doubt it, unless it's a SCSI device, then you have an edge chance. actually, i think that drive is a scsi drive... just make sure you set it as a type 0 scsi device via jumpers or dipswitches. as i remember, the od driver in either -current or -stable will support type 7 scsi devices. Jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" jbryant@argus.flash.net - FlashNet Communications - Ft. Worth, Texas From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 16:38:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA24395 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24384 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA10565; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:41:41 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601310041.QAA10565@MediaCity.com> Subject: snd01041996 for 2.2-current To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@star-gate.com, jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr, e.b.matheson@larc.nasa.gov, ebm@visi.net Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:41:40 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ftp://ftp.mediacity.com/pub/brian/snd01041996-2.2-current.tgz contains the latest sound driver from Amancio Hasty ported to 2.2-current. It works with my SB1.5 and my GUSMAX. You may need to edit /sys/i386/isa/sound/local.h to enable your sound card. Please examine the code carefully as some of the cards are enabled in two places. Questions about sound and the driver should probably be directed to multimedia@star-gate.com Should Amancio move this over to star-gate.com? And should anyone try to get these changes run backup up the development tree? -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] How to program in c++: // From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 16:43:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA24848 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24836 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id TAA13720; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:43:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:43:30 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199601310043.TAA13720@sed.cs.fsu.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: login Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am running 2.1 FreeBSD on my home machine. Since I have two SCSI disks, I allocated my home directory to the second disk (/home/uh), using "adduser". After that, I log in as a regular user, and am located to my home directory /home/uh/ ,but system complains permission denied for /bin/csh (.. any other shell). If I locate my home directory to the first disk, then I do not have such problem. Following is the file /etc/fstab: I appreciate any reply for my problem. Regards, UGR (uh@cs.fsu.edu) -----------------/etc/fstab----------------- /dev/sd0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sd1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0s2e /usr ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0s2f /usr/local ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd1f /home ufs rw 1 1 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 /dev/cd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 16:44:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA24950 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from bidnet.bidnet.com (bidnet.com [204.182.59.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24891 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by bidnet.bidnet.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30850; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:41:26 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:41:26 -0800 From: shotes@bidnet.bidnet.com (Scott Hotes) Message-Id: <9601310041.AA30850@bidnet.bidnet.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FoxPro compatability Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I would like to know if the latest version of FreeBSD is compatible with FoxPro for UNIX. I understand that FoxPro requires SCO Unix 3.2.2 or 2.3.4 or their emulation. Thanks ahead of time for any information. Scott Hotes shotes@bident.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 17:08:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA27118 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27024 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA22825; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:05:12 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601310105.UAA22825@hda.com> Subject: Re: Querying for grown defects? To: darrylo@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:05:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601302001.AA294182077@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> from "Darryl Okahata" at Jan 30, 96 12:01:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there any way from FreeBSD to query a SCSI drive for grown > defects (remapped sectors)? I've taken a look at scsi(8), but I've > absolutely no idea what parameters to use (assuming that scsi(8) can > even be used for this). scsi(8) will let you send any command to the drive, so if you have the scsi II spec you can probably rig up the right incantation. I don't think you want to, though, since... > I think my root disk is going south on me, and I'd like to find out > if I've properly enabled the automatic sector remapping on the drive. you can look at your mode pages to see if you have it on. You want to look at mode page 1: > beggar# scsi -f /dev/rsd0.ctl -m 1 > AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld): 1 > ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld): 1 > TB (Transfer Block): 0 > RC (Read Continuous): 0 > EER (Enable Early Recovery): 0 > PER (Post Error): 0 > DTE (Disable Transfer on Error): 0 > DCR (Disable Correction): 0 > Read Retry Count: 27 > Correction Span: 11 > Head Offset Count: 0 > Data Strobe Offset Count: 0 > Write Retry Count: 0 > Recovery Time Limit: 0 and see that the AWRE and ARRE fields are set to 1. -- Peter Dufault Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 17:13:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA27660 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii1.iii.net (root@iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27647 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id UAA02320 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:12:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:12:54 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199601310112.UAA02320@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: startslip timeouts Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Startslip seems to give up dialing after 9 times or so. Can I make it keep trying infinitly? Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 17:20:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA28239 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28155 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA149871202; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:03 -0800 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA188731200; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:01 -0800 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA222901200; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199601310120.AA222901200@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: Peter Dufault Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Querying for grown defects? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:05:11 EST." <199601310105.UAA22825@hda.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:00 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > scsi(8) will let you send any command to the drive, so if you have > the scsi II spec you can probably rig up the right incantation. > I don't think you want to, though, since... That's what I thought. I've got an MS Windows 3.1 program that will query for grown defects, but I really don't want to install Windows just to find the defects .... I've got a DOS partition with adequate disk space, but I really don't want to do this. ;-) > you can look at your mode pages to see if you have it on. You want > to look at mode page 1: Thanks, but I've already verified that AWRE and ARRE are set to "1" (they weren't originally, but I did set them via the "-e -P 3" option).. Just last night, I started to get occasional "media errors" (which is what started all this), and I'm trying to figure out if the drive is: * Dying. ;-) * Out of spare blocks. * Getting more and more bad sectors. * Just not sparing bad sectors (even though the mode page is set correctly -- buggy firmware?). This is an old Fujitsu 2624FA drive, BTW. * Acting as it always has. I just upgraded to 2.1.0R last night, and the warnings started to appear soon after .... Coincidence, or does 2.1.0R output better SCSI warning messages? -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 18:27:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA02788 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from aries.ai.net (ai.net [205.252.67.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02770 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id VAA01926; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:27:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:27:19 -0500 (EST) From: Network Coordinator To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Running out of files. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk When a certain BSD machine is running for ~20 days or so, the system unexpectedly hangs. Over the days/weeks the number of "files" reported by pstat -T slowly shows fewer and fewer free files. Basically this machine just does web serving. Any ideas why this is happening? Its [2.0.5] BTW. Thanks, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 18:32:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA03138 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02916 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id NAA08045 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:27:26 +1100 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:27:23 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Paul Banks cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS In-Reply-To: <9600308230.AA823025889@SMTPGWY.CANDLE.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Paul Banks wrote: > It is possible to load and run BSD from a DOS partition? No > > For various reasons, I can not re-format my hard disk to create unique > partitions for BSD. You can repartition your disk without re-formatting it. (without losing any data at all for that matter) Have a look at "fips". > Thanks > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 18:45:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04064 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.noc.netcom.net (ns3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04052 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [206.215.142.10]) by ns3.noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA01342; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:44:30 -0800 Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0-206) id AA00374; Tue, 30 Jan 96 18:44:09 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601310244.AA00374@tera.com> Subject: Memory ponderance To: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:44:21 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601302035.AA04371@Sysiphos> from "Stefan Esser" at Jan 30, 96 09:35:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Stefan Esser: > > > But it is very interesting to see how much > useful work can be done with such a system. > Pentiums are only good for playing 3D games, > what else needs that much CPU power :-) > > } cost of an AMD 5x86 ? > > I've paid some $107 (*1.45DM/$ * 1.15 VAT). > > The Cyrix 5x86-100 seems to be sold for the > same price, but I've heard it is no faster > in the SP3G, since it needs special chip set > support. (I could buy the AMD in a local > shop, and I'm a little conservative and it > seemed a smaller step than the Cyrix :) > > The Cyrix got a branch target cache and other > "Pentium class" features. It is said to beat > a P100 (with asynch. cache), though I really > doubt it, given the limited memory performance > (4 byte vs. 8 byte memory interface of the 486 > resp. Pentium.). > If I can digress from the original topic//Subject, I'd like to ask some of you hardware-savvy types: What is the fastest CPU that I can run with my 16MB of old, slow (80ns) DRAM? Can I use my old memory with something like a Dx4-120MHz 486?? or whatever it's called? I'm sure that my 90MHz P5 came with much faster RAM. If possible, I'd like to use my old memory when I upgrade my older system. Thanks for any insight.... gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 18:46:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04118 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04103 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA17075; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:29:23 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601310259.NAA17075@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS To: pbanks@candle.com (Paul Banks) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:29:22 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9600308230.AA823025889@SMTPGWY.CANDLE.COM> from "Paul Banks" at Jan 30, 96 08:58:24 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Paul Banks stands accused of saying: > > It is possible to load and run BSD from a DOS partition? > > For various reasons, I can not re-format my hard disk to create unique > partitions for BSD. I'm working on code to do this, but at this point in time you need to repartition. Note that you don't have to reformat, you can use a tool like FIPS to shrink your DOS partition to make room for FreeBSD. > Thanks -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 18:50:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04409 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04342 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA17087; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:31:18 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601310301.NAA17087@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Post CD-ROM Adding Of Packages To: dwalton@psiint.com (Dave Walton) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:31:18 +1030 (CST) Cc: thomas.strohl@valley.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Dave Walton" at Jan 30, 96 08:04:55 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Dave Walton stands accused of saying: > > I've run into the same problem: After installation, sysinstall can't > find the packages when you specify CD-ROM as the install media. The > work-around I've found is to mount the CD (in /cdrom, for me) and then > tell sysinstall to install the packages from an existing file system, > giving it /cdrom as the path. That done, it works fine. Use pkg_manage directly, rather than sysinstall. > David Walton Programmer -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 18:58:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04826 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04820 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA17134; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:40:08 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601310310.NAA17134@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Dreams.... To: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:40:07 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Narvi" at Jan 30, 96 08:40:04 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Narvi stands accused of saying: > > has anyone got an idea of a really shining configuration to run > FreeBSD on for providing network services to a great number of PCs > running dos/windows? (some of which maybe eventually *upgrading* to > FreeBSD/X11) How many is "a great number"? What sort of "network services"? Basically, get a big Pentium on a Triton motherboard, put in lots of RAM (I'd say 128M would be a good start) and then a pile of SCSI disks hung off Adaptec 2940UW controller(s). > Sander. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 18:59:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04879 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04873 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA17148; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:42:54 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601310312.NAA17148@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Problems installing 2.1 CDROM To: kav@ihlpf.att.com (Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:42:53 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, FreeBSD-questions@freefall.freebsd.org, mpf@marconi.att.com In-Reply-To: <9601310008.AA00911@ig4.att.att.com> from "Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261" at Jan 30, 96 11:20:00 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261 stands accused of saying: > > Michael, > Thanks for the response. Yes, we had the CD in when we booted the > system (the CD installation boots right off the CD from DOS). Also, we did > the W command in the slice/partition editors and also tried waiting (as > recommended by the install program) until later for the final "commit". > I am suspicious that the problem may be related to the 2940 SCSI controller > driver. I saw some posts on netnews regarding some buggy behavior in the > driver. Have you heard anything about this? Yeah, it can give you serious grief. If at all possible, try installing using another SCSI controller (if you have, say, a 1542 lying around). Personally, I use the NCR-based controllers (there's an install going next to me as I speak...), and these are great. The 2940 problems are really patchy; I had a client with two machines sid by side, one crapping out, one running perfectly, the only difference being the disks (the stayer was a 9G seagate, the crasher was a 1G seagate...). > Kurt Vangsness -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 19:01:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA05119 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from roper.uwyo.edu (roper.uwyo.edu [129.72.60.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05104 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.uwyo.edu (plains.uwyo.edu) by ROPER.UWYO.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #14244) id <01I0MT9B4Y8G001BFL@ROPER.UWYO.EDU> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:53:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from PLAINS.UWYO.EDU by PLAINS.UWYO.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #14244) id <01I0MT9E8EGO002I4A@PLAINS.UWYO.EDU> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:53:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:53:39 -0700 (MST) From: "Andrew N. Edmond" Subject: Diamond Stealth? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am purchasing a system with the following configuration: 133mhz Pentium (works with Windows 95, NT, OS/2) BusLogic Ultra Fast PCI SCSI Controler Flexstor SCSI CDROM Diamond Stealth 64bit S3 2mb EDO 64mb RAM 4 gig SCSI drive Will FreeBSD conflict with any of these (i.e. diamond stealth) Thanks for your time, patience and generosity. Many thanks! Andy ............................................................................. . Andrew Edmond . Children of a future age, . .. edmond@plains.uwyo.edu ... Reading this indignant page, .. ... University of Wyoming ..... Know that in a former time, ... .... Botany Department ....... A path to God was thought a crime. .... .....................VISIONARY PLANTS LIST................................... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 19:16:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA05877 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05848 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA25230; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:16:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:16:12 -0500 (EST) From: Geoffrey Deasey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am sorry to do this, but I cannot unsubscribe from this list PLEASE WHO EVER OWNS THIS LIST UNSUBSCRIBE ME ASAP sorry for the waist of bandwidth, But I have tryed the normal ways , even mailed owner-majordomo and majordomo-owner oh well thanks --Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 19:36:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA07221 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07201 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:35:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.gordian.com (hermes.gordian.com [192.73.220.111]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.2/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA15184 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:35:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by hermes.gordian.com (8.7.2/8.6.9) id TAA26282; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:35:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:35:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601310335.TAA26282@hermes.gordian.com> From: Steve Khoo To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Is there a port of GNU ld for FreeBSD 2.1R? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Is there a port of GNU ld for FreeBSD 2.1R? binutil 2.6 doesn't seems to indicate that. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 19:52:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA08505 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA08481 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:52:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA17117; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:51:58 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:51:58 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: Geoffrey Deasey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk sendmail to majordomo@freebsd.org saying unsubscribe freebsd-questions On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Geoffrey Deasey wrote: > > I am sorry to do this, but I cannot unsubscribe from this list > > PLEASE WHO EVER OWNS THIS LIST UNSUBSCRIBE ME ASAP > > sorry for the waist of bandwidth, But I have tryed the normal ways , even > mailed owner-majordomo and majordomo-owner oh well > > thanks > > --Jeff > > -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 19:54:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA08600 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.wmich.edu (gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08586 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA05667 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:54:02 -0500 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #5064) id <01I0MZIR6G7KB7EBMS@wmich.edu> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:52:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:52:59 -0500 (EST) From: -=WireHead=- Subject: Man pages To: questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: "Timothy.Butkiewicz" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=DEC-MCS Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: low Priority: low Sensitivity: none Encrypted?: no Comments: none Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Seems as though I have fried some of my man pages. I ran out of swap space as I was trying to look at sendmail man page...so now I type man sendmail and i get a couple of blank lines... I went in and reinstalled the man pages from the install prog...but that didn't help. Same problem. Can any one offer any suggestions? Thanks much! -Timothy  --Is It Live .. or Is It Mimecon--  +-----------------------> *)(* WireHead *)(* <-----------------------+ |Feed the NOiSe in2 the .SYS fone: 616.349.8044| |Please end destructive system_X: 616.373.6680| | nuclear testing http://arbornet.org/~wirehead| | ! PGP Key available upon request. ! eMail:wirehead@pobox.com| [<*>]--------------------------------[<*>]--------------------------------[<*>] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 20:19:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA10747 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:19:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [206.16.90.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA10738 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by pelican.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #10) id m0thU0R-0000SMC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 20:18 PST Message-Id: From: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) Subject: Re: QIC-3080: density & length To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:18:50 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601250119.LAA28651@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jan 25, 96 11:49:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith writes: > Pete Carah stands accused of saying: > > >> I have purchased a Conner TSM4000R SCSI tape backup unit. I have > > >> found this unit mentioned several times in questions in the mail > > >> archives, but unfortunately the replies must have been sent > > >> directly, and not forwarded to the list. > > > > > >Odd, I've read lots of people saying that they're lemons. Sorry. > > > > Well, I was never able to get one to stream on a SS1000 that easily > > Ok, that settles it for me. 8) FBSD may be better; the DMA limit is higher. On the other hand it's less than half as fast as a DLT so if the DLT can stream at a 64k blocksize (-b 126) I'd hope the Conner would. > > If you need speed and don't worry about $$$ I'd recommend a DLT, > > though I've never tried one (directly; with /etc/rmt it won't > > stream from either fbsd or a SS20 but I'd expect that) on freebsd > > either :-) As long as fbsd's tape driver can handle variable > > blocksize it should be fine. > > That's really strange; we use rmt for all our backups (Sony SDT-5200) > and it streams almost all of the time. The backup server's just a > 486 with an NE2000 in it, and it's often running X. > You may be loaded more heavily though... Well, the Sun QIC tape driver has a DMA limit of 64k; that may have something to do with it. The DAT/DLT/Reel driver goes longer but then you get big blocks that things like SGI's can't read :-( (and the DLT still streams with gnu tar at -b 126). The usual conditions for our rmt dumps are ss20 -> SS1000, both otherwise unloaded (well, the ss20 is sometimes running X with no other activity). (or FBSD (P100) -> SS1000; still won't stream and the net is not very busy either). The Sun console driver is very slow; if you dump "tar cvf /dev/rmt/xxx" a full-system dump goes almost twice as fast with the tty on X... That is not relevant for our video streams though (1/2 gig single files). I'm likely to use a DAT for backup at home and my isp friends; the choices at the moment are Conner (archive) (which SGI distributes) or HP (one of two models; I don't know the difference.) Currently at home I use a Wangtek QIC525 drive; it works great. -- Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 20:48:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA13192 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA13184 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA00410; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:47:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199601310447.UAA00410@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Brian Litzinger cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@star-gate.com, jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr, e.b.matheson@larc.nasa.gov, ebm@visi.net Subject: Re: snd01041996 for 2.2-current In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:41:40 PST." <199601310041.QAA10565@MediaCity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:47:26 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Tnks Brian , I will be happy to take a look at the stuff you did and I will try to move the snd driver into I guess 2.2 after a bit more testing by other --- you guess it : SB users --- I bet they are running away right now 8) What kind I say , this must be an MM week! Amancio >>> Brian Litzinger said: > > ftp://ftp.mediacity.com/pub/brian/snd01041996-2.2-current.tgz > > contains the latest sound driver from Amancio Hasty ported to > 2.2-current. > > It works with my SB1.5 and my GUSMAX. > > You may need to edit /sys/i386/isa/sound/local.h to enable your > sound card. Please examine the code carefully as some of the cards > are enabled in two places. > > Questions about sound and the driver should probably be directed > to multimedia@star-gate.com > > Should Amancio move this over to star-gate.com? And should anyone > try to get these changes run backup up the development tree? > > -- > Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeB SD > http[s]://www.mpress.com > speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] How to program in c++: // From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 20:49:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA13230 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from shellx.best.com (diag@shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA13219 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from free.emmert.com (emmert.vip.best.com [204.156.142.218]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA12968; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:48:03 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:49:27 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Emmert To: Dave Walton cc: "Adam.Strohl." , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Post CD-ROM Adding Of Packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Dave Walton wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Adam.Strohl. wrote: > > > I did the original install off of the CD, and now want to add additional > > packages (such as XFree86), but when I run /stand/sysinstall and tell > > it to do an add package (using the menu) it says that it can't load the > > index file. I can browse the CD-Rom Drive , using mount, and it seems > > ok from the shell, just that the install menu doesn't see its thier I > > guess, please help, thanx in advance !!!! > > I've run into the same problem: After installation, sysinstall can't > find the packages when you specify CD-ROM as the install media. The > work-around I've found is to mount the CD (in /cdrom, for me) and then > tell sysinstall to install the packages from an existing file system, > giving it /cdrom as the path. That done, it works fine. > > Of course, this doesn't solve the underlying problem of accessing the > CD directly with sysinstall. Anyone got a better solution? > > Dave > > ========================================================================== > David Walton Programmer > PSI INTERNATIONAL, Inc. email: dwalton@psiint.com > 190 South Orchard #C200 Fax :(707)451-6484 > Vacaville, CA 95688 Phone:(707)451-3503 > ========================================================================== > > Have you guys tried /usr/sbin/pkg_manage? --Steve Steve Emmert steve@emmert.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Powered by FreeBSD -- The Daemon is FREE!!! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 21:07:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14825 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:07:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.noc.netcom.net (ns3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14817 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [206.215.142.10]) by ns3.noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02713 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:06:24 -0800 Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0-206) id AA04032; Tue, 30 Jan 96 21:06:02 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601310506.AA04032@tera.com> Subject: ftp//path to boot.flp To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:06:14 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Can somebody give me the path to the `boot.flp' on freebsd.org? Thanks! gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 21:12:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA15518 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from comtch.iea.com (comtch.iea.com [198.17.249.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15448 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from tc0-23.iea.com by comtch.iea.com (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id FAA22004; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:10:50 GMT Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:10:50 GMT Message-Id: <199601310510.FAA22004@comtch.iea.com> X-Sender: msmith@comtch.iea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Michael Smith From: msmith@iea.com (Mark D. Smith) Subject: Re: elm distfile corrupted Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> >> My current problem is with a distifle on the CDROM. when I try >> to gunzip the elm.(whatever).tar.gz, I get a CRC error. Where >> can I get a good copy of the file(s)? > >Is it _only_ the elm distfile that's corrupted? If not, I'd be suspicious >of your CDrom drive - what is it? It's a Toshiba XM3401 on a Buslogic BT545S SCSI controller. > >Why are you gunzipping the distfile manually? Because copying the distfiles to the /usr/.../distfiles directory and running make from the /ports/mail/elm directory on the CD didn't work. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 21:33:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA18095 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA18085 Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:32:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601310532.VAA18085@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Smith cc: kav@ihlpf.att.com (Kurt A Vangsness +1 708 713 1261), FreeBSD-questions@freefall.freebsd.org, mpf@marconi.att.com Subject: Re: Problems installing 2.1 CDROM In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:42:53 +1030." <199601310312.NAA17148@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:32:56 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >The 2940 problems are really patchy; I had a client with two machines sid >by side, one crapping out, one running perfectly, the only difference being >the disks (the stayer was a 9G seagate, the crasher was a 1G seagate...). Are you still having problems with the latest aic7xxx driver? > >-- >]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ >]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ >]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ >]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ >]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 21:52:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA19624 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19586 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA17747; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:35:33 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601310605.QAA17747@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Contributing to the FreeBSD project To: thekind@NETural.com (Adam W. Dace) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:35:32 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Adam W. Dace" at Jan 30, 96 03:51:44 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Adam W. Dace stands accused of saying: > > I was wondering what kind of procedure is normally followed to "give" > software into the FreeBSD project. I.e. If I write my backup script, it > works great, etc, and I want it to be available so that noone else > reinvents the wheel, how would I go about it? Create a 'port' (perhaps lobby for a new category 'administrative tools') and submit the port to the ports people (subscribe to the -ports list) > One thing I've noticed Linux has that FreeBSD doesn't seem to, is a number > of sites where one can simple upload their little package, and it will be > indexed among the many other little packages there. Not exactly elegant, > barely organized, but -extremely- popular. Generally, the aim is to centralise everything and then mirror it out, rather than have lots of overlapping and conflicting resources. > | Adam W. Dace | NETural Communications, Inc. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 21:53:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA19698 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19689 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA17758; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:36:50 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601310606.QAA17758@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: elm distfile corrupted To: msmith@iea.com (Mark D. Smith) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:36:49 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601310510.FAA22004@comtch.iea.com> from "Mark D. Smith" at Jan 31, 96 05:10:50 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Mark D. Smith stands accused of saying: > >> My current problem is with a distifle on the CDROM. when I try > >> to gunzip the elm.(whatever).tar.gz, I get a CRC error. Where > >> can I get a good copy of the file(s)? > > > >Is it _only_ the elm distfile that's corrupted? If not, I'd be suspicious > >of your CDrom drive - what is it? > > It's a Toshiba XM3401 on a Buslogic BT545S SCSI controller. Hmm. Do you have SCSI parity enabled? > >Why are you gunzipping the distfile manually? > > Because copying the distfiles to the /usr/.../distfiles directory > and running make from the /ports/mail/elm directory on the CD > didn't work. You have to have the relevant parts of the ports tree on a writable media, as work is done in a subdirectory 'work' under the port's directory. > Mark -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 21:54:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA19762 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19754 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA17768; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:38:05 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601310608.QAA17768@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth? To: edmond@UWYO.EDU (Andrew N. Edmond) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:38:05 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Andrew N. Edmond" at Jan 30, 96 07:53:39 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Andrew N. Edmond stands accused of saying: > > I am purchasing a system with the following configuration: > > 133mhz Pentium (works with Windows 95, NT, OS/2) > BusLogic Ultra Fast PCI SCSI Controler Don't. Get one of the NCR-based PCI controllers, save a bundle and avoid the headaches that may come from this controller. > Diamond Stealth 64bit S3 2mb EDO EDO RAM on a video card? I'm sceptical 8) > . Andrew Edmond . Children of a future age, . -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 22:01:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA20127 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vividnet.com (mail.vividnet.com [206.149.144.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA20112 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from aquarius.vividnet.com (postmaster@mail.vividnet.com) by mail.vividnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA28255; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:59:02 -0800 Received: (postmaster@aquarius.vividnet.com) by aquarius.vividnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA00162; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:58:46 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:58:46 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Wang To: "Adam W. Dace" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stable Backup Solutions... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Adam W. Dace wrote: > Hello everyone! > > Just thought I'd toss this idea out and see what everyone thinks. I'm > still relatively new to FreeBSD, and have checked about for a good backup > solution to backup our network here. > > The only one I've found that I -like- is bru, and I -don't- like the cost. > > dump seems rather old/icky/nasty/doesn't work, tar doesn't do > error-recovery well (so i've heard) and afio doesn't have a front-end. > > So. > > I'm thinking of writing what will hopefully be a small perl program, that > will use the wonderous features of find and afio to do > full/incremental/differental backups, hopefully across many machines ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > (using ssh if I'm lucky). > > Sys Admins, users, etc...what do you use? We use amanda to backup our network. It is a client/server backup/restore system based on dump (old/icky/nasty..but it works). Try it out, you might like it. You can find it in FreeBSD ports/package. Oh BTW, there is a kerberos version that does encryption. Sincerely, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 22:38:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA22376 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from uahis1.uah.edu (uahis1.uah.edu [146.229.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA22370 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Wed, 31 Jan 96 00:35:25 CST Received: from ebs07.eb.uah.edu.uah.edu by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB03754; Wed, 31 Jan 96 00:37:31 CST Received: by ebs07.eb.uah.edu.uah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02040; Wed, 31 Jan 96 00:40:08 CST Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:40:08 -0600 (CST) From: Luis Verissimo Subject: tcsh config.h file for FreeBSD To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody have the tcsh-6.06 config.h file for FreeBSD? What existing config.h file should I use to compile tcsh in FreeBSD 2.1 Thank you in advance Luis Verissimo PS- Thank you for all the recomendation on the web server software. I decided to use Apache 1.0. I hope to have the system up in a couple of days. \\|// O-O ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~~~~(_)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ LUIS VERISSIMO ~ ~ Univ. Alabama Huntsville ~ ~ e-mail: Engineering Bldg. Rm 216-a (205) 895-6509 ~ ~ licau@ebs330.eb.uah.edu Huntsville, AL 35899 (205) 895-6928 ~ ~ ~ ~ web: http://eb-p5.eb.uah.edu/student/licau/index.html (205) 830-2323 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | | -- -- ooO Ooo From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 23:10:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA24202 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [206.16.90.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA24195 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by pelican.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #10) id m0thWgP-0000SMC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 23:10 PST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 23:10 PST From: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: good NTP servers In-Reply-To: <199601261722.LAA12311@base486> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article <199601261722.LAA12311@base486> dave writes: >> A nice list can be found at ftp.udel.edu somewhere in /pub/ntp -- it might >> be in the xntpd distribution itself. Lots of nice stratum 2 servers to >> sync to. >I looked -- there's supposed to be a file "clock.txt" but it wasn't on >ftp.udel.edu /pub/ntp/{.,doc}... Does anyone know where one can get >a list of time servers who won't get upset if people use them to sync >up their personal machines? Strange - it's gone!! I also fetched the latest (3.4y) dist and it isn't in there either. I have one fetched a while ago (Jan 95; it is sort of out of date)... I can't find a more recent one on my other sites, either. The USNO's web site contains a pair of pages containing clock.txt (marked as stolen from Dave Mills so it must still be somewhere on louie...); the stratum 2 list is marked as updated 24 Jan 1996 so is pretty current. see http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/clocks2.html (and clocks1.html if you want stratum 1...) You can use ns.clubnet.net or club.pelican.com but they are usually stratum 3. The stratum 2 servers I tend to use are maui.cs.ucla.edu, tick.cs.unlv.edu, tock.cs.unlv.edu, a couple at JPL and a couple in Oregon. The *real* stratum 1 servers are tick.usno.navy.mil and tock.usno.navy.mil; for a description of how they work, check http://www.usno.navy.mil/ and look at the "directorate of time". (they are hppa machines with modified hardware and software clocks, sync'd to one of the same h-maser sources that the gps timebases are sync'd to.) (h-maser is more short-term stable than cesium; the real definition of the second is cesium (I think) but those oscillators are more complicated since the gas cell is used to phase-lock a crystal with a fairly long loop time constant (minutes to hours).) This list shows clepsydra.dec.com as stratum 2; it is sometimes stratum 1. You can check out a host listed in the clock.txt file (or wherever) using ntpq; for example, using one of the hosts given in clocks2.html: ntpq> host tick.cs.unlv.edu current host set to elmore.cs.unlv.edu ntpq> peers remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset disp ============================================================================== -kks1.lbl.gov clock.llnl.gov 2 u 26 128 376 21.41 37.756 34.18 -cedr.lbl.gov clock.llnl.gov 2 u 31 256 377 27.24 -40.551 13.82 -quench.lbl.gov clock.llnl.gov 2 u 9 128 377 35.86 -29.701 10.56 .chico.rice.edu otc1.psu.edu 2 u 53 64 176 100.74 -25.787 443.89 .grainne.lbl.gov clock.llnl.gov 2 u 13 64 37 32.99 -40.009 946.32 .cheetah.llnl.go clock.llnl.gov 2 u 479 1024 176 52.67 -41.972 20.19 *time-A.timefreq .ACTS. 1 u 251 1024 377 61.78 -3.718 4.67 fuzz.sdsc.edu afarm-1.sdsc.ed 3 u 300 1024 377 108.81 -36.660 6.99 +GRAPEFRUIT.SRV. haven.umd.edu 2 u 442 1024 377 113.27 -2.656 7.25 .little-walter.C Sony.COM 2 u 1002 512 174 1.72 -3.500 135.60 LOCAL(0) LOCAL(0) 8 l 22 64 377 0.00 0.000 13.90 broadcast 0.0.0.0 16 u - 64 0 0.00 0.000 16000.0 -uncle-sam.llnl. clock.llnl.gov 2 u 289 512 376 45.33 -50.506 12.99 .samson.llnl.gov clock.llnl.gov 2 u 290 512 376 64.62 -53.588 13.15 -order.llnl.gov clock.llnl.gov 2 u 736 1024 376 40.05 -42.875 15.17 +204.99.130.2 ncar.ucar.edu 2 u 140 1024 377 73.79 -5.926 6.76 +cujo.Colorado.E ncar.ucar.edu 2 u 128 256 356 63.02 -10.671 7.63 .tornado.nwa.com otc1.psu.edu 2 u 823 1024 276 234.44 -26.810 24.44 .gandalf.sigmaso tick.usno.navy. 2 u 93 64 136 150.62 -40.367 15.21 boulder.Colorad clepsydra.dec.c 2 u 41 256 323 89.63 -21.356 2012.45 ntpq> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- (delay, offset, and disp are all in milliseconds); reach is a bitmask filled from the right. When and poll are seconds. In the left column, + are sync candidates and * is the current sync master. Not all hosts in this peers list are public. SGI's running IRIX 5.1 or 5.2 are *not* good candidates to sync to. I don't know about 5.3; it was supposed to be better. 4.0.x are pretty good. FreeBSD is pretty good if it has a good net connection; a compressing modem with an asymmetric load like a newsfeed is *not* a good connection. The net regions are no longer determined geographically; you have to know your provider's connectivity (my two above are T1-connected to mci in Los Angeles)... -- Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 23:36:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA26613 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from interramp.com (pop3.interramp.com [38.8.32.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA26564 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:36:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip235.seattle.wa.interramp.com by interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-pop-local) id CAA28116; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:36:27 -0500 Received: by ip235.seattle.wa.interramp.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BAEF6B.BED6D780@ip235.seattle.wa.interramp.com>; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:36:14 -0800 Message-ID: <01BAEF6B.BED6D780@ip235.seattle.wa.interramp.com> From: Clay Jackson To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: config problem? Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:35:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I just tried to use config as part of compiling a new kernel, and it complained about: ident N7QNM for a kernel "name". It came back with: syntax error at line 11: Nothing APPEARS to be wrong with the output files, but I decided to take no chances and used a different name WITHOUT a numeric in the middle. Is this really a restriction, or just a bug? TIA! Clay Jackson N7QNM clayj@interramp.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 23:50:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA27600 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.netvision.net.il (mail.NetVision.net.il [194.90.1.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA27591 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from Burka.NetVision.net.il (gena@burka.NetVision.net.il [194.90.6.15]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17064; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:50:49 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.4-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:49:35 +0200 (IST) Reply-To: gena@NetVision.net.il X-Face: #v>4HN>#D_"[olq9y`HqTYkLVB89Xy|3')Vs9v58JQ*u-xEJVKY`xa.}E?z0RkLI/P&;BJmi0#u=W0).-Y'J4(dw{"54NhSG|YYZG@[)(`e! >jN#L!~qI5fE-JHS+< Organization: NetVision Ltd. From: Gennady Sorokopud To: "Adam W. Dace" Subject: RE: Connectix Quick-Cam...Yea/Na? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I tried to use qcam with FreeBSD-2.2-current and it works pretty well (even faster then Win95 :-). Great work! On 30-Jan-96 "Adam W. Dace" wrote: >>Does anyone out there yet have a qcam? I got my just yesterday, have it=20 >working well with Linux at home, and am wondering if anyone has done the=20 >work to port some of this cool software to FreeBSD? > >If not, I might take a crack at it myself. > >Also, if anyone's interested, I'll be setting up a directory on our ftp=20 >server -- ftp.netural.com:/pub/linux/qcam, and attempting to mirror all=20 >of the software out there that's available for this awesomely cool,=20 >inexpensive device. > >I have a friend (one of several) who are already running web-pages that=20 >do image-grabs from the camera and put it up on their pages. > >Please check out http://spunky.roadkill.com/~unwin for an example. At=20 >the bottom of the page is a link to the QuickCam Reverse Engineer=20 >Project...those darn big companies, when will they learn they can't hide >what people want to know? > >| Adam W. Dace | NETural Communications, Inc. | >| Webmaster | Paying too much for your Net access? | >| http://www.NETural.com/ | NETural Voice: (312) 819-2231 | -------- Gennady B. Sorokopud - System programmer at NetVision Israel. E-Mail: Gennady Sorokopud Homepage: http://www.netvision.net.il/~gena This message was sent at 01/31/96 09:49:35 by XF-Mail From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 30 23:53:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA27851 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA27838 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA18136; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:36:45 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601310806.SAA18136@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Man pages To: Timothy.Butkiewicz@wmich.edu Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:36:44 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "-=WireHead=-" at Jan 30, 96 10:52:59 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -=WireHead=- stands accused of saying: > Seems as though I have fried some of my man pages. I ran out of swap > space as I was trying to look at sendmail man page...so now I type man > sendmail and i get a couple of blank lines... # rm /usr/share/man/cat8/sendmail* -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 00:01:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA28382 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA28358 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA24611; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:03:30 +0100 Message-Id: <199601310803.JAA24611@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: ftp//path to boot.flp To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:03:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601310506.AA04032@tera.com> from "Gary Kline" at Jan 30, 96 09:06:14 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Can somebody give me the path to the `boot.flp' on freebsd.org? > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/boot.flp > Thanks! > > gary kline > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 00:05:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA28886 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA28861 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02509; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:04:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:04:03 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Anthony Hill cc: Paul Banks , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am using netboot to boot in our labs. You need nothing in your DOS box if you can build up a server FreeBSD with swapspace and root directory. You can boot FreeBSD from a floppy I have swap and /var in a dos file. There is also dosboot, but nobody seems to know how to use it. Idea is that you have kernel in DOS filesystem and ... docs speak about kernel root partition (if I remember correct) Maybe it could also be used as netboot: swap and root in another node (NFS). Seppo On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Anthony Hill wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Paul Banks wrote: > > > It is possible to load and run BSD from a DOS partition? > > No > > > > > For various reasons, I can not re-format my hard disk to create unique > > partitions for BSD. > > You can repartition your disk without re-formatting it. (without losing > any data at all for that matter) Have a look at "fips". > > > Thanks > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 00:10:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA29295 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [206.16.90.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA29244 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by pelican.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #10) id m0thXbb-0000SMC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 00:09 PST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 00:09 PST From: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: good NTP servers In-Reply-To: <199601261806.LAA04921@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article <199601261806.LAA04921@phaeton.artisoft.com> Terry writes: > >Since we are on a sort of tangent here, I might as well add to it. 8-). Even further on a tangent, and some corrections...: (someone else threw in:) >> tick.usno.navy.mil and tock.usno.navy.mil are sync'ed to Navy Cesium clocks, >> I am assuming [someone please correct me if I am wrong] that these clocks >> are sync'ed in a method similar to that described on pp 10 and 11 of NIST >> Special Pub 432, as the Cesium sources at the USNO are traceable to NIST. The other way around; USNO syncs NIST. >> The method described on pg 10 is accurate to less than 100ns, this is >> utilizing GPS... this is pure assumption based on the fact that the >> Cesium Primary Standards in use at the USNO are tracable to NIST, and >> that NIST uses the GPS method as described to sync the Primary standards >> at WWV, WWVB, and WWVH. You can do much better than 100ns with averaging periods of days; I've seen the GPS sync unit at WWVH and I'm not sure exactly how it's used but it isn't a short-term correction to the local cesium source. As far as I know it's used for a long term rate correction. >> Since all three sites are using NIST tracable Cesium Primary Standards, >> I guess that would make all three sites stratum 1 servers... sorry folx... USNO's ntp sites aren't directly sync'd to cesium standards; they use H-masers that are in turn sync'd to cesium standards. (h-masers are more short-term stable). The computers apparently do use their standard cheap crystals for the cpu clock, though they may have modified oscillators there too. I don't know how much their kernel timekeeping is modified; ours is substantially modified from standard BSD. (they run HPUX which is often gratuitously different from "normal" unix...) >The inaccuracy on pg 10 is due to pseudo-random "jitter" in the GPS >signal. The Navy, being a branch of the US military, has access to the >generator and key pair and so GPS is significantly more accurate for >them Not totally true for USNO; they define GPS time so the codes are not relevant for what you're worried about. They do need to use the codes in keeping PPS in sync; most civilian receivers don't use PPS at all and those that do use it only for a noise source. >(many airports in the US are generating adjustment base references >for GPS based on known lattitude/longitude positions of the adjusting >signal source to defeat this intentional inaccuracy in the GPS position >fixing for non-military grade GPS). which works pretty well. Note that the FAA's differential system is *not* yet in service, and probably won't be for some years. The Coast Guard's diff system isn't geared up to improve time measurements, though it could probably halve the jitter over a few-second period. Given that the receiver jitter is much less than the possible transfer accuracy from a GPS receiver to a freebsd system (a few microseconds), SA hardly matters... The imposed jitter per satellite is up to 300ns (it actually can be somewhat more); the time measurement can be quite a bit better if the least-squares solution is used to update a Kalman filter with a few-second or longer period. (Tom Clark of NASA claims 40-50ns on non-SA-corrected Motorola receivers with standard microcode; see his ftp site, which I forget right now). This is about as good as the receiver can be considering its 10mhz internal clock source. SA specs call for a 100 meter horizontal uncertainty in location 95% of the time. What they don't tell you is: 1. What is the offset the other 5%; i've seen 1/4 mile on rare occasions. 2. The time constant or other nature of the distribution. It is *not* unbiased on any one satellite, nor is it anything like gaussian. It is entirely possible (I don't think they do this) for them to keep the error at 99 meters all the time, wandering randomly around a circle with one side favored most of the time (though it is hard to arrange this for very long for more than one location on the earth...) 3. The vertical uncertainty is about twice the horizontal (this is a geometric problem having to do with the fact that you can't see the sat's below you). 4. They do promise that the apparent velocity due to SA alone of a point fixed on the earth will be less than some (about a knot) speed. Many hand-held GPS receivers have some hysteresis at 0 speed so that it takes a constant speed for some period of time or a few knots speed for less time, before it will display non-0. Mine (GPS45) will follow a fast walk pretty well, though. If you have a cheap (or even expensive) GPS with a map mode, go to constant-time update on the map at the smallest scale, and wait an hour or two and look at the resulting plot. It can be interesting :-) For real accuracy, there are some post-time differential master stations on the web; JPL (topex/poseidon) operates one of them. >The Navy's clocks are probably accurate to much better than 100ns if they >are using military grade GPS. Actually the USNO clocks are the *definition* of time for the US; NIST is sync'd to them via GPS. See http://www.usno.navy.mil/ under the 'directorate of time' link for details. USNO are *not* _using_ gps; it's the other way around. They feed the gps system its sync (probably via the USAF). Their NTP servers claim "a few 10s of microseconds". At least they have a decent connection to the civilian internet; if they went through the normal milnet gateways they would have more of both delay and jitter than ntp can decently handle. (hundreds of milliseconds) NTP on a T1 has around a millisecond of uncertainty, depending mostly on the router traffic (about half that on an unloaded circuit). Therefore whose stratum-1 source you look at is not terribly relevant unless you are doing things that need more precision than ntp can deliver anyway, or you are on an unloaded ethernet with a st.1 machine. -- Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 01:02:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA02459 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 01:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA02446 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 01:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02148; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:01:10 +0100 Message-Id: <199601310901.KAA02148@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: DOH! Installed DES, am locked out now... To: JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU (JOHN) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:01:10 +0100 (MET) From: "Werner Griessl" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <01I0ML5S0F548WZW02@POMONA.EDU> from "JOHN" at Jan 30, 96 04:03:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I'm sorry, I know this has been discussed, I think I even read the solution > but forgot. I installed DES on my computer, and now can't log in under > any account. How do I boot up and mount my root directory as root without > a password. Can this be done from the BOOT prompt, or do I need a boot > diskette, because I don't have the latter. > > Thanks > John > > > 1) type -s on the boot-prompt You'll get single user mode without password 2) mount -u / mount -a or manually mount /usr 3) vipw Hope this helps Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 01:35:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA04793 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 01:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04788 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 01:35:42 -0800 (PST) From: grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id BAA14819 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 01:35:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199601310935.BAA14819@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> X-Authentication-Warning: scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: additional serial card woes with 2.1.0 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 01:35:27 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to add a second serial card to my system. (Or to be more accurate, I upgraded my mother board, and the new board has on-board ports, which work fine, and I'm now trying to re-install my old serial card.) At this point I have seen two problems. The first is that the new board is preventing X from working. I have a miroVideo 20SV, which uses the S3968 chip. I've seen the discussions about 0x2e8, and it sure seems like my problem is related, but I've tried the recommended solution -- recompiling sio.c with "0x2e8" removed from likely_com_ports (I also compiled without "0x3e8" -- sio2 -- for good measure). I've tried disabling the 2nd com port, using the jumpers on the card. I'm using a kernel that doesn't even have more than two serial ports enabled in the first place (more on that later). Here's the relevant dmesg output: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A The symptom is that when X starts up, the machine hangs. The hang is complete -- the three-fingered salute doesn't do anything. sio1 works -- I was able to dial out. I forgot to check whether sio0 (the mouse) caused any problems (and right now the card is out of the machine). I've configured my card so that everything else (FDC, HDC, printer port, serial port 2) are disabled, and serial port 1 is using IRQ 5. I don't have anything else on IRQ 5 that I know of -- here's the irq messages in dmesg: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa pas0 at 0x388 irq 10 drq 6 on isa vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 My current status is that I can't have the card _installed_ and run X at the same time. Most annoying. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The other problem is that although I don't really need the 3rd serial port working in UNIX (I want it set up because I'd like to connect a music keyboard to it, and use some Windoze 95 software with it), I wouldn't mind having it working. However, when I _did_ compile the kernel with the 3rd serial port enabled, I got a crash during the device probe stage (it had just probed and found my ProAudioSpectrum card). I don't have the crash details with me right now, since I wasn't too concerned, but I was wondering if others have seen similar problems.. Steven PS While I'm on the subject, I discoevered to my chagrin that after upgrading my system, my mouse is not recognized under Windows 95! Obviously, it works fine under UNIX (and DOS). I've done all the obvious Win95 things.. Anyone seen that? Guess it's time to start my 90-day Win95 support countdown... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 01:36:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA04931 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 01:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA04925 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 01:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02112; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:34:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199601310934.KAA02112@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: Soundblaster 16 help To: jeff@tad.cetlink.net (Jeffrey Wheat) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:34:00 +0100 (MET) From: "Werner Griessl" Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601302047.PAA00406@tad.cetlink.net> from "Jeffrey Wheat" at Jan 30, 96 03:47:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Here is my soundblaster 16 config ! To avoid troubles with the irq 7 (printer port) I switched the sb16-irq to irq 10 (0xa) and drq 5 on the board device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 10 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 options "SBC_IRQ=10" Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 02:12:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA07897 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA07890 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA21162; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:15:44 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601311015.CAA21162@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Kernel won't ID internal modem on COM2 To: acolyte@uoknor.edu (Eric Eiseman) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:15:44 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <310daca96029002@cliff.uoknor.edu> from "Eric Eiseman" at Jan 29, 96 11:29:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Well, I just slapped the CD-ROM release of FreeBSD 2.1.0 on my machine and > most things work great. However, I can't get it to identify my Gateway 2000 > 14.4kbps internal modem on COM2 (read IRQ3, 0x2f8-0x2ff). I have an Acer > PCI/ISA motherboard with a 16550A compatable UART. The modem is in an ISA > slot. Attached are the the config file for the compile of my kernel and the > output from dmesg. I have similar problems with a cardinal 28.8 internal. In sys/i386/isa/sio.c find the line that has to do with failure 5, comment it out, and build yourself a new kernel. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] How to program in c++: // From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 02:16:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA08364 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA08348 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA21202; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:17:59 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601311017.CAA21202@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Maxoptix Tahiti-II Removable Read-Write Optical drive To: ishort@pcm.co.za (Irvine Short) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:17:59 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, mark@grondar.za In-Reply-To: <44CEE3B4FC4@pcm.co.za> from "Irvine Short" at Jan 30, 96 03:57:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Hi All > > Anyone know if I can use this drive under FreebSD 2.1.0-Release? > > I've been using a MaxOptic Tahiti I under FreeBSD since 2.0.5, and am currently using it under 2.2, which unfortunately doesn't exactly answer your question. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] How to program in c++: // From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 02:32:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA09410 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA09396 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcm.co.za [196.3.226.39] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0thZp4-000aoNC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:31 EET Received: from PCM1/MERC_Q by pcm.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 31 Jan 96 12:22:49 +2 Received: from MERC_Q by PCM1 (Mercury 1.21); 31 Jan 96 12:22:47 +2 From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:22:42 +2 Subject: Re: Maxoptix Tahiti-II Removable Read-Write Optical drive CC: brian@MediaCity.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Irvine Short" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <461592004ED@pcm.co.za> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Brian > I've been using a MaxOptic Tahiti I under FreeBSD since 2.0.5, and > am currently using it under 2.2, which unfortunately doesn't > exactly answer your question. Have you been using it as a straight SCSI disk, with the jumpers changed to make the Tahiti appear as a non removable device, and then umounting to change disks? Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Engineer Professional Computer Manufacturers Amalgamated House, Jordaan St Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 03:59:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA21760 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 03:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from wakko.gil.net (keithl@wakko.gil.net [205.138.35.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA21753 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 03:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keithl@localhost) by wakko.gil.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA31065; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 07:58:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 07:58:28 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Leonard To: Prinaya Phansopon cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installation In-Reply-To: <9601302215.AA16974@gallium.csusb.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm new also, and the only problem that I had was that EMM386 in the DOS config.sys file wouldn't allow the install program to work. After REMing out the EMM386 line I was able to go to the cdrom from DOG type view and run install without a hitch. Don't forget to have some free space on the disk you are trying to install to. Use fips to create it if there is none. Not much but I hope it can help Keith On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Prinaya Phansopon wrote: > I am a new user, and I have been trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 by CDROM > but it seem to me that I cannot install it. From Boot disk, I tried disable > devices on my PC but I cannot get them right. > > Is there an e easy way to install FreeBSD, or what should I do? > > Thank you, > > Prinya Phansopon > > My eMail address is pphanso@gallium.csusb.edu > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 04:52:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA25730 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 04:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA25724 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 04:52:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA24721; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 07:49:30 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601311249.HAA24721@hda.com> Subject: Re: Querying for grown defects? To: darrylo@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 07:49:29 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601310120.AA222901200@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> from "Darryl Okahata" at Jan 30, 96 05:20:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Thanks, but I've already verified that AWRE and ARRE are set to "1" > (they weren't originally, but I did set them via the "-e -P 3" option).. > Just last night, I started to get occasional "media errors" (which is > what started all this), and I'm trying to figure out if the drive is: Are the failures on read? The drive won't automatically slip a sector on a read failure without recovered data. You'll have to write to that location - read the block, ignore the failure, write back. You will lose data that way. I have a program that will use REASSIGN BLOCKS to reassign the blocks. Let me know if you want it and I'll send it. -- Peter Dufault Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 04:52:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA25757 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 04:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA25752 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 04:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA03051; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:52:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:52:08 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Video capture Possible with FreeBSD + nv? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have asked this but havn't got a clear answer, or have missed it: Which video capture cards are supported in FreeBSD 2.1 + nv? I know Video Spigot is supported and Matrox Meteor, but Spigot is dead, Matrox Meteor is not imported here yet. (Or could someone send one for me?) Found Linux HOWTO docs and they say supporting these, I do not know if all or any work with nv. 20.3 Video capture boards FAST Screen Machine II ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/video/ScreenMachineII.1.2.tgz ImageNation Cortex I ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/video/cortex.drv.0.1.tgz ImageNation CX100 ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/video/cxdrv-0.1beta.tar.gz Pro Movie Studio ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/video/PMS-grabber.2.0.tgz Quanta WinVision video capture card ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/video/fgrabber-1.0.tgz Video Blaster, Rombo Media Pro+ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/video/vid_src.gz VT1500 TV cards ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/video/vt1500-1.0.5.tar.gz Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 05:26:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA27419 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:26:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from perkunas.omnitel.net (perkunas.omnitel.net [205.244.196.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA27401 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [205.244.196.184] by perkunas.omnitel.net (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20600; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:30:36 -0600 Posted-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:33:54 +0200 Message-Id: <310F6FC2.4F52@post.omnitel.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:33:54 +0200 From: Darius Ramanauskas Organization: TDD Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: MAIL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Thank you for the working on such fine system like freebsd .. I like it, but :-(( Q1: What about Mail in FreeBSD: I mean SMTP/POP3/USENET Servers ? Why chapter 13 "Mail" in handbook is empty? How do you use mail infreebsd? Q2: Where I can find drivers for my net card: HP PC LAN ...? Thanx. P.S. Please don't beat me, I am new in Unix administration. I am going to build Internet WWW server and will have some mail boxes, so please help my !!!! Bye Dara From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 05:31:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA27620 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from epsilon.qmw.ac.uk (epsilon.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.6.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA27614 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk by epsilon.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP-DNS (PP) id <20721-0@epsilon.qmw.ac.uk>; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:34:26 +0000 Received: from ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [192.135.231.243] by canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.7.2/QMW-server-2.6s) with ESMTP; poster "scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk"; id MAA04287; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:34:18 GMT Message-ID: <199601311234.MAA04287@canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Received: from localhost.dcs.qmw.ac.uk by ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.7.2/QMW-client-3.2b); poster "scott@ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk"; id MAA06025; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:34:15 GMT To: Carey Nairn Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Compatibility.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:34:49 +1100." Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:33:58 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I have had problems using my ATAPI CDROM as the primary device on the >second controller as well. My current configuration is wd0 on controller >0 with the CDROM as the slave on controller 0. The second hard disk is >on controller 1. I would be interested in knowing how to get the CDROM >to work as the primary device on the secondary controller. > >thanks >Carey > For what it's worth, I've only been able to get my CDROM (Creative 4x, I forget the model right now) to work if there is a disk attached to the same controller. Apart from that it doesn't care if it's on the primary (motherboard) or secondary (SB16 IDE) controller, of whether it's the master or slave. If the CDROM is the only device on either controller, the controller is probed correctly at boot time but the CDROM never gets detected. Since my onboard controller turned out to be ATAPI friendly, when I finally get the 2.1 CD I will just move my second HD onto the secondary port and put the CDROM on the primary, as a slave (as you have apparently done). OS/2 is currently happy with the CDROM as the lone device on the secondary port -- it detects it as a generic IDE CDROM. It seems you're SOL trying to have things this way under FreeBSD with the current ATAPI drive though. Not that I'm complaining -- three cheers to the developers for getting my 'orrible little CD to work at all :) Scott =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell, CompSci Dept, Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK email: scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk WWW: http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~scott/ finger scott@ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk for PGP public key From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 05:31:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA27650 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from epsilon.qmw.ac.uk (epsilon.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.6.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA27638 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk by epsilon.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP-DNS (PP) id <21217-0@epsilon.qmw.ac.uk>; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:44:02 +0000 Received: from ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [192.135.231.243] by canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.7.2/QMW-server-2.6s) with ESMTP; for ""; poster "scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk"; id MAA04396; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:43:51 GMT Message-ID: <199601311243.MAA04396@canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Received: from localhost.dcs.qmw.ac.uk by ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.7.2/QMW-client-3.2b); for ""; poster "scott@ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk"; id MAA06224; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:43:43 GMT To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: NTFS (and HPFS) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 02:39:00 EST." Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:43:40 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Is there any support(or planned support) for NTFS in FreeBSD? > >Thanks, >Dave which reminds me, is anyone out there working on HPFS support? If not, I'd like to hear from anyone who might be interested in doing this. If only I could mount my OS/2 partitions from FreeBSD, I could almost eradicate all traces of MSDOS entirely from my system :) I know Linux has HPFS support, so presumably a port wouldn't be _too_ hard? Unfortunately I know less than diddly about integrating new fs types so I don't really want to get into this by myself... Cheers, Scott =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell, CompSci Dept, Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK email: scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk WWW: http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~scott/ finger scott@ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk for PGP public key From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 06:14:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA01622 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 06:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from border.com (mail.border.com [199.71.190.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA01615 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 06:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by janus.border.com id <20485>; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:20:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:13:57 -0500 From: Jerry Kendall To: Werner Griessl Cc: Jeffrey Wheat , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Soundblaster 16 help In-Reply-To: <199601310934.KAA02112@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <96Jan31.092047est.20485@janus.border.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I gather that you have eliminated the possiblilty of IO/IRQ conflicks ??? On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: > > Here is my soundblaster 16 config ! > To avoid troubles with the irq 7 (printer port) I switched the sb16-irq > to irq 10 (0xa) and drq 5 on the board > > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 10 drq 1 vector sbintr > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 > device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 > options "SBC_IRQ=10" > > Werner > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any comments or opinions in this message are my own and may or may not reflect the comments or opinions of my present or previous employers. Jerry Kendall Border Network Technologies Inc. System Software Engineer Tel +1-416-368-7157 ext 303 jerry@border.com Fax +1-416-368-7178 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 06:22:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA02399 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 06:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from spoon.beta.com (root@SPOON.BETA.COM [199.165.180.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA02377 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 06:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mcgovern@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA00496 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:40:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199601311440.JAA00496@spoon.beta.com> X-Authentication-Warning: spoon.beta.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel symbols list Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:40:22 -0500 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there any place to get a list of symbols (and their purposes) for FreeBSD 2.1.0? Thanks. -Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 06:53:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA05211 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 06:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from maelstrom.cc.mcgill.ca (maelstrom.CC.McGill.CA [132.206.35.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05197 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 06:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from yves@localhost) by maelstrom.cc.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.6.6) id JAA11742; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:50:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199601311450.JAA11742@maelstrom.cc.mcgill.ca> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Yves Lepage Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 09:50:09 -0500 To: Dave Richards Subject: Re: 3c509 cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: yves@CC.McGill.CA References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi Dave, I use 3c509's on my 2.1-stable machine. I had to patch the driver so it supports multicast and I had to patch it again so that more than one 3c509 will work on the same machine. If your don't plan to : 1- use multicast 2- use more than one 3c509 on one machine Then the driver in 2.1-stable works perfectly fine. Regards, Yves Lepage From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 07:32:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09137 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 07:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09127 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 07:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu (jfieber@ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.44]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3/1.10IUPO) with ESMTP id KAA30036 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7/8.7/regexp($Revision: 1.3 $) id KAA08445; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:32:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <310EF55E.166F@ionet.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:51:42 -0400 From: Anthony Yandell Organization: DeadHead Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6b (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: A small problem X-Url: http://www.neosoft.com/www.freebsd.org/welcome.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:32:28 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: John Fieber ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a Seagate 540 meg HD, that needs to have the Disk Manager loaded to get to my partition. When I boot with the FreeBSD, it doesn't recognize the full 540 megs. The Disk Manager has the option to press Cntrl to boot from a floppy, but when I use this root, it reboots right after it starts to read the FreeBSD floppy, then sits with only a blinking cursor. I don't know if this is the right address to be sending this kind of question to, but I figured I'd give it a try. I really want to get FreeBSD installed on my machine. Anthony Yandell antone@ionet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 09:14:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA17466 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dini.iet.unipi.it (dini.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.244]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17457 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dini.iet.unipi.it (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA06468 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:53:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199601311653.RAA06468@dini.iet.unipi.it> X-Authentication-Warning: dini.iet.unipi.it: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 2.0 From: Gianluca Dini Organisation: U. Pisa, Faculty of Engineering, Dept of Information Eng., Italy Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:53:52 +0100 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi, i don't know whether this is the right address to post this message to. i beg your pardon, if it is not. i run FreeBSD 2.0 and i would like to install xfig-3.1. unfortunately, the current packages distribution addresses FreeBSD-2.0.5 or higher. can someone give me a suggestion? if possible, i would like to avoid to install any new release. thanks g. dini ----------------------------------------------------------- Dr Gianluca Dini Dipartimento di Ingegneria dell'Informazione University of Pisa PHONE: +39-50-568549 Via Diotisalvi, 2 FAX : +39-50-568522 56126 Pisa EMAIL : gianluca@iet.unipi.it Italy ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 09:36:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19417 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19406 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA09982; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:34:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601311734.KAA09982@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NFS in Sun environment To: jeffa@sybase.com (Jeff Anuszczyk) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:34:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, jeffa@sybase.com In-Reply-To: <9601301929.AA19233@teak.sybase.com> from "Jeff Anuszczyk" at Jan 30, 96 02:29:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I think I understand the weak authentication problem that NFS on non-Sun > platforms has when trying to mount a Sun exported NIS NFS disk. So, since > I don't run the Sun servers I'm trying to work around this. One of the > things that we do have is pcnfsd running to allow PC's to authenticate > themselves when they want to mount NFS stuff. Usually this is intended > for product like Netmanage ChameleonNFS. > > Is there any way that I can convince mount to contact a pcnfsd for > authentication when doing a mount to a Sun System? This would allow me > to get around this problem using an already existing solution. If not, > any ideas how hard it would be to cobble up a mount_nfs to do this? man mount_nfs: [ ... ] -P Use a reserved socket port number. This is useful for mounting servers that require clients to use a reserved port number on the mistaken belief that this makes NFS more secure. (For the rare case where the client has a trusted root account but untrusworthy users and the network cables are in secure areas this does help, but for normal desktop clients this does not apply.) Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 09:39:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19546 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19534 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA17081 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from as2511-3.sl005.cns.vt.edu (as2511-3.sl005.cns.vt.edu [128.173.32.116]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA25963 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:39:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199601311739.MAA25963@sable.cc.vt.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:41:52 -0800 From: Cheryl Baxendale X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PS/2 Mouse help needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk When I type startx I get the mouse not configured error. When configuring I typed /dev/psm0. I have a PS/2, 2 button Microsoft mouse. If anyone can help me out please give specific intstructions on what I need to do. Thanks! Cheryl cbaxenda@vt.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 09:48:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20754 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20730 Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA19097; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:48:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:48:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199601311748.MAA19097@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from: chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Willows Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Any word on a port to freebsd of willows TWIN XPDK for UNIX? I would *very* much like to try it out and the word was that there was going to be a port (presumably be willows). -- Charles Green, PRC Inc. UN*X System Administration 22 Powell Ave. Apt. B UN*X Security & Whitesboro, NY 13492 Programming From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 09:50:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20986 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20976 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA10029; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:47:56 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601311747.KAA10029@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Connectix Quick-Cam...Yea/Na? To: thekind@NETural.com (Adam W. Dace) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:47:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Adam W. Dace" at Jan 30, 96 03:54:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Please check out http://spunky.roadkill.com/~unwin for an example. At > the bottom of the page is a link to the QuickCam Reverse Engineer > Project...those darn big companies, when will they learn they can't hide > what people want to know? When someone proves it by doing a Mac PPC port to the 6500/7500/8500. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 09:55:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA21492 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:55:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21484 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA10064; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:51:29 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601311751.KAA10064@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS To: kallio@beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:51:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: ahill@interconnect.com.au, pbanks@candle.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Jan 31, 96 10:04:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > There is also dosboot, but nobody seems to know how to use it. Idea is > that you have kernel in DOS filesystem and ... docs speak about kernel > root partition (if I remember correct) Maybe it could also be used as > netboot: swap and root in another node (NFS). The idea is that you can load the BSD second stage boot and start it from a DOS program. "DOSBOOT"/"FBSDBOOT" has nothing to do with running with a "/" mounted on a DOS partition. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:01:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA22112 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22100 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA10081; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:58:18 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601311758.KAA10081@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:58:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: pbanks@candle.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601310259.NAA17075@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jan 31, 96 01:29:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > It is possible to load and run BSD from a DOS partition? > > > > For various reasons, I can not re-format my hard disk to create unique > > partitions for BSD. > > I'm working on code to do this, but at this point in time you need to > repartition. > > Note that you don't have to reformat, you can use a tool like FIPS to shrink > your DOS partition to make room for FreeBSD. There is no umsdos driver for FreeBSD. Linux does this by establishing an attributes file called "--LINUX-.---" in each directory of a subtree hierarchy to combat POSIX non-compliance of the FAT FS. This should probably be called "-UMSDOS-.---" to be OS independent, IMO. The file is used to store attributes (uid/gid/ctime/modes) for the files in the directory. Obviously, this file is not updated or respected by DOS when accessing the FS. This requires a second stage boot that knows about the FAT/UMSDOS FS (or, more typically, Linux uses a boot floppy that mounts / from the hard drive from a "/linux" directory under the FAT root that has UMSDOS permissions on the underlying hierarchy. One alternative for FreeBSD is to make a boot floppy and then use vnconfig to configure a DOS file as a file system and mount it. This is a bit of work. Is there some technical reason that you need to use a 8-10 times slower FS to store your files? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:15:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23551 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:15:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23527 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:14:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00722; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:11:33 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:11:33 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Carl Joel Kuzmich cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd kernel In-Reply-To: <310E6FD7.41C6@vms.cis.pitt.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Carl Joel Kuzmich wrote: > Hi all > > I'm having a hard time figuring out just what should and should not be in my kernel.... It is a WWW server "only" running the Netscape Commerce Server.... > yet something just does not seem right..... > > When several people hit the machine simultaneously it just comes to a complete halt... ie... if I telnet to the machine with no one else logged in and no one > is accessing a web page the machine will at times freeze???? That doesn't sound like a kernel problem, more like a hardware failure. What do youhave in the machine? (cpu, disk, controller, ethernet card, etc.) > Is there a set of items that should be in this kernel to improve performance....????? And if so what should these be set too????? More like things you should take out. > Do you have any settings that you would suggest as a starting point???? Devices that don't exist, for starters. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:16:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23753 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23597 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptcmtl.montreal.hp.com (ptcmtl11.montreal.hp.com) by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA119782144; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:15:46 -0800 Received: by ptcmtl.montreal.hp.com (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA196091941; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:12:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:12:21 -0500 From: Philip Van-Houtte Message-Id: <199601311812.AA196091941@ptcmtl.montreal.hp.com> Apparently-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 on a NEC 'Ultra Lite Versa' laptop. 486SL + 20M Ram (4M + 16M ram card) + 380Mb HD. I receive a page fault panic when the installation tries to extract the root.flp floppy. Are there any quick ways around this problem? I'd like to install FreeBSD in the entire HD (no other partitions) Thanks Philip Van-Houtte From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:16:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23776 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:16:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23769 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA10118; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:12:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601311812.LAA10118@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: good NTP servers To: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:12:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Pete Carah" at Jan 31, 96 00:09:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > USNO are *not* _using_ gps; it's the other way around. They feed the > gps system its sync (probably via the USAF). How are they syncing Cesium clocks at multiple locations? There are relativistic effects from moving a presynced clock, running two clocks at different gravities (altitude/surface mass density) and angular rotation rates (lattitude, and altitude again: distance from axis of rotation). They *must* sync by knowing relative position and relative sync differential based on local relativistic effects in the sync source and destination. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:17:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23980 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23967 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from crissy.gemis.ge.com ([3.29.7.57]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA21288 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:17:48 -0500 Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by crissy.gemis.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA00368 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:04:24 -0500 Received: from combs.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14532; Wed, 31 Jan 96 13:17:46 EST Received: (from steve@localhost) by combs.salem.ge.com (8.7.2/8.6.11) id NAA17948; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:17:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:17:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Stephen F. Combs" Reply-To: CombsSF@salem.ge.com To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: RE: intested/Old Farts list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Mr. Bresler Stephen F. Combs born 24 Oct 50 married{second time}16 Jun 78 1 child, girl, age 28, 3 grandchildren, girl, boy, girl, ages 2, 8, 9. Computer programmer since 1974 {asm programmer until I discovered 'C'}, first multi-tasking O/S RSX-11D on a PDP-11/45, first Unix(tm) ISC 2.0, first *BSD SunO/S, first x86 *BSD, BSD386 0.0, first FreeBSD, 1.0D P.S. Birkenstocks I've seen have cork soles with leather covers, not wood. Steve C. ---- Stephen F. Combs Internet: CombsSF@Salem.GE.COM GE DS&TC Voice: 540.387.8828 Network Services Home: CombsSF-Home@Salem.GE.COM 1501 Roanoke Blvd Home Voice: 540.389.9524 Salem, VA 24153 (not reliable after 9:30pm, 'cuz 'tis my link) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:18:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA24075 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24057 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00729; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:13:20 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:13:20 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Clay Jackson cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: config problem? In-Reply-To: <01BAEF6B.BED6D780@ip235.seattle.wa.interramp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Clay Jackson wrote: > I just tried to use config as part of compiling a new kernel, and it complained about: > > ident N7QNM Put it in quotes: ident "N7QNM" I've found that config doesn't like numbers that are unquoted. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:22:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA24584 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24569 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00739; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:16:17 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: David Clear cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD support the HP T1000 internal 800Mb Travan tape drive? In-Reply-To: <199601302319.XAA00281@apple.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, David Clear wrote: > The subject says it all really. I want to buy a cheap backup device and > HP's Colorado T1000 looks pretty good. I'm running FreeBSD 2.1. Will > it work? Nope. try SCSI instead; the connor 4GB works well and is pretty cheap ($400 or so a few months go, AFAIK). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:22:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA24613 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24593 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00746; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:18:44 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Scott Hotes cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FoxPro compatability In-Reply-To: <9601310041.AA30850@bidnet.bidnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Scott Hotes wrote: > I would like to know if the latest version of FreeBSD is compatible with > FoxPro for UNIX. I understand that FoxPro requires SCO Unix 3.2.2 or 2.3.4 > or their emulation. Thanks ahead of time for any information. you'd have to try it with SCO emulation on. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:31:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA25786 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25767 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:31:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00759; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:27:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:27:35 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Darius Ramanauskas cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAIL In-Reply-To: <310F6FC2.4F52@post.omnitel.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Darius Ramanauskas wrote: Didn't someone answer this already? (Terry?) > Thank you for the working on such fine system like freebsd .. :) > Q1: > What about Mail in FreeBSD: I mean SMTP/POP3/USENET Servers ? SMTP: Built in. POP3: Pull the port for popper. USENET: Inn is available for serving. > Why chapter 13 "Mail" in handbook is empty? nobody's written it yet. > How do you use mail in freebsd? could you be more specific? If you want to read/write mail, you can use good ol' mail or you can pull off packages or ports for PINE or ELM. > Where I can find drivers for my net card: HP PC LAN ...? You won't, they aren't supported right now. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:34:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA26342 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:34:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from bure.abc.se (root@bure.abc.se [192.36.170.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26270 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pm1-17.abc.se by bure.abc.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA07052; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:33:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199601311833.TAA07052@bure.abc.se> From: "Kent Hansson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:37:48 +0000 Subject: PPP Reply-to: Kent.Hansson@abc.se Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all! First i`d like to thank everyone who`s working width FreeBSD it`s GREAT. Now my question. I am trying to connect to my ISP i`m using iijPPP and doublechecked all configurations. I can connect to my ISP but if i try for example telnet i just get the message "trying x.x.x.x" i have the IP in "hosts". Is there any known problems not described in the handbook or do anyone have any idea were i could start to look for truoble. I`m a novice in networking so this could be a simple problem. I`ve just upgraded to 2.1 Thanks "I`m still learning" Kent.Hansson@abc.se From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:42:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27254 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27124 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00777; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:36:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:36:36 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Shishir Belbase cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help with FreeBSD configuration !! In-Reply-To: <9601301630.AA14450@MAILSERV-H.FTP.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Shishir Belbase wrote: > 1. "sysinstall" doesn't let me add any more network > interfaces. When I hit enter, it just returns me to the same > menu option. It would be easier to just edit /etc/sysconfig and find the ifconfig_xxx lines, copy, and edit as appropriate. Don't forget to compile in the drivers. > 2. "xinit" fails to read the XF86Config file. Can't get X > to run at all. Did you run 'xf86config' to set it up? You should be able to run it as just ``X'' then. > 3. "init 0" says init is already running. Can't kill it > either. I have to do "shutdown now". Is this normal. Killing init is not a good idea. The system will come to a screeching, possibly destructive halt. use shutdown; it'll kill everything and properly bring down the system. To answer the question: yes, that is normal. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 10:54:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA29166 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29147 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00790; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:48:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:48:16 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Network Coordinator cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running out of files. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Network Coordinator wrote: > > When a certain BSD machine is running for ~20 days or so, the system > unexpectedly hangs. Over the days/weeks the number of "files" reported > by pstat -T slowly shows fewer and fewer free files. Basically this > machine just does web serving. Any ideas why this is happening? Did you take a look at ps ax and made sure that there weren't any errant httpd's running? On high-usage servers, the system should probably be rebooted every so often, like weekly. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 11:33:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA02848 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02685 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA00789; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:31:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:31:47 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601311931.AA00789@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Kernel symbols list In-Reply-To: <199601311440.JAA00496@spoon.beta.com> References: <199601311440.JAA00496@spoon.beta.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Is there any place to get a list of symbols (and their purposes) > for FreeBSD 2.1.0? Thanks. Sure. Read the source. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 11:48:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA03809 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03760 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:47:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA23103; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:46:58 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:46:57 -0800 (PST) From: Wayne Hernandez To: questions Subject: using sudo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have setup the sudoers file, but when it ask's for the password, it won't take either my password or root's password. Is their something else that I missed? Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 12:00:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA04607 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [142.77.249.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04599 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA03225; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:00:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:00:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Yves Lepage cc: Dave Richards , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3c509 In-Reply-To: <199601311450.JAA11742@maelstrom.cc.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Yves Lepage wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I use 3c509's on my 2.1-stable machine. > > I had to patch the driver so it supports multicast and I had > to patch it again so that more than one 3c509 will work > on the same machine. > > If your don't plan to : > > 1- use multicast > 2- use more than one 3c509 on one machine > > Then the driver in 2.1-stable works perfectly fine. > Have these patches been submitted/rolled into -current? Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 12:14:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA06118 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from maelstrom.cc.mcgill.ca (maelstrom.CC.McGill.CA [132.206.35.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06088 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from yves@localhost) by maelstrom.cc.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.6.6) id PAA12521; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:09:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199601312009.PAA12521@maelstrom.cc.mcgill.ca> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Yves Lepage Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 15:09:14 -0500 To: "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: 3c509 cc: Dave Richards , questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: yves@CC.McGill.CA References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Have these patches been submitted/rolled into -current? Not that I know of. And I do not know if they will ever be.... regards, Yves Lepage From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 12:37:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07888 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07860 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA16778; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:39:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:39:41 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601312039.NAA16778@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: CombsSF@salem.ge.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: RE: intested/Old Farts list In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Can all the old farts take their discussions over to -chat now please? :) I think we're pushing the relevance of using -questions and -hackers now. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 12:38:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08014 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08007 Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA29454; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:38:26 -0800 (PST) To: chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu cc: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Willows In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:48:08 EST." <199601311748.MAA19097@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:38:26 -0800 Message-ID: <29452.823120706@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Any word on a port to freebsd of willows TWIN XPDK for UNIX? > I would *very* much like to try it out and the word was that there was > going to be a port (presumably be willows). I have a couple of calls into them - USENIX kind of put a halt on everything. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 12:41:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08385 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08378 Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA20772 ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:41:23 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: hardware@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org, dboyd@iquest.com From: Gary Palmer Subject: EIDE controllers Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:41:22 -0800 Message-ID: <20770.823120882@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi I'm looking for an EIDE controller which will work with FreeBSD and allow >>500MB drives to be used in a multi-OS boot situation. A Promise 2300+ card doesn't work :-( Any ideas? Thanks Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 12:45:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08720 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mpp.minn.net (root@mpp.Minn.Net [204.157.201.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08700 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.minn.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) id OAA05577 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:45:06 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199601312045.OAA05577@mpp.minn.net> Subject: line command To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:45:05 -0600 (CST) From: "Mike Pritchard" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to get some of the scripts in /usr/src/share/man/tools working, and some of them use a "line" command. Does anyone have any idea what this command is supposed to do, and what the else I might use in its place? -- Mike Pritchard mpp@minn.net "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 12:50:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09285 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09279 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id PAA03385; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:50:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:50:24 -0500 (EST) From: Geoffrey Deasey To: Daniel Leeds cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is this the level of people on the help list ? In-Reply-To: <199601310941.JAA05454@sponsor.octet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Daniel Leeds wrote: > > > > PLEASE WHO EVER OWNS THIS LIST UNSUBSCRIBE ME ASAP > > > > > > get a fucking clue dipshit. it fucking tells you how to unsubscribe when > you join, and anyone with half a brain can figure out that majordomo@freebsd.orgis the mailing list manager. > > use dos, your not ready yet. > > well aren't you just the most polite person I have encountered in a while. and since I have already followed the instructions several times and no it did not work. I think that this type of language is so inspiring that it needs to be made public. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 13:18:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11654 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ix3.ix.netcom.com (ix3.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11642 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from by ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id NAA28144; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:17:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:17:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199601312117.NAA28144@ix3.ix.netcom.com> From: klhack@ix.netcom.com (Lynn Hack ) Subject: FreeBSD distribution floppies To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Due to the slowness of my modem, I will not be able to download BSD; is there any way I can obtain a copy on floppies via snail-mail? My address is: Christopher Richter 340 Westwood Ct. Coppell TX 75019 My e-mail address is c.richter1@genie.com Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 14:08:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16328 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16321 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA07622 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:12:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:12:41 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199601312212.PAA07622@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PC Router cards Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What is the web address to that place that sells Routing Cards to go in UNIX boxes? I've search in all the search engines, but I can't find it. Thanks Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 14:10:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16444 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ofelia (lsi.poli.usp.br [143.107.103.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16405 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: mario@lsi.usp.br Received: from fernanda.usp.br (fernanda.lsi.usp.br [143.107.3.206]) by ofelia (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA04120 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:03:47 -0200 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:03:47 -0200 Message-Id: <199601312203.UAA04120@ofelia> Received: by fernanda.usp.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27458; Wed, 31 Jan 96 19:07:43 EST To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3 BETA X-Personal_Name: Mario Donato Marino Subject: PCI Development Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm interested to develop a FreeBSD driver for a PCI card. I would like some hints to begin this work. Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Mario From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 14:10:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16498 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from aries.ai.net (ai.net [205.252.67.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16489 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id RAA07739; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:11:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: Network Coordinator To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running out of files. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > When a certain BSD machine is running for ~20 days or so, the system > > unexpectedly hangs. Over the days/weeks the number of "files" reported > > by pstat -T slowly shows fewer and fewer free files. Basically this > > machine just does web serving. Any ideas why this is happening? > > Did you take a look at ps ax and made sure that there weren't any errant > httpd's running? > > On high-usage servers, the system should probably be rebooted every so > often, like weekly. > Would it be possible to increase the number of file handles to say 5000 so that it could be rebooted once every 3 months or so? :) Thanks, -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 14:14:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16851 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16843 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA13835 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:14:47 -0800 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA17385; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:15:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:15:36 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199601312215.PAA17385@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Kent.Hansson@abc.se Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP In-Reply-To: <199601311833.TAA07052@bure.abc.se> References: <199601311833.TAA07052@bure.abc.se> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Now my question. I am trying to connect to my ISP i`m using iijPPP > and doublechecked all configurations. I can connect to my ISP but if > i try for example telnet i just get the message "trying x.x.x.x" i > have the IP in "hosts". Can you telnet directly the host you are connected to? Are you sure the PP connection is running, and your ISP is routing traffic to your PPP link? Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 14:18:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA17332 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17326 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id JAA29657; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:17:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:17:50 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au To: Scott Mitchell cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Compatibility.. In-Reply-To: <199601311234.MAA04287@canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Scott Mitchell wrote: > > >I have had problems using my ATAPI CDROM as the primary device on the > >second controller as well. My current configuration is wd0 on controller > >0 with the CDROM as the slave on controller 0. The second hard disk is > >on controller 1. I would be interested in knowing how to get the CDROM > >to work as the primary device on the secondary controller. > > > >thanks > >Carey > > > > For what it's worth, I've only been able to get my CDROM (Creative 4x, I > forget the model right now) to work if there is a disk attached to the same > controller. Apart from that it doesn't care if it's on the primary > (motherboard) or secondary (SB16 IDE) controller, of whether it's the > master or slave. > > If the CDROM is the only device on either controller, the controller is > probed correctly at boot time but the CDROM never gets detected. Since my that has been my experience too.. > onboard controller turned out to be ATAPI friendly, when I finally get the > 2.1 CD I will just move my second HD onto the secondary port and put the > CDROM on the primary, as a slave (as you have apparently done). absolutely right. > > OS/2 is currently happy with the CDROM as the lone device on the secondary > port -- it detects it as a generic IDE CDROM. It seems you're SOL trying > to have things this way under FreeBSD with the current ATAPI drive though. > Not that I'm complaining -- three cheers to the developers for getting my > 'orrible little CD to work at all :) > They all get my vote as well... better to have a driver that works with only minor problems than to not have a driver at all. The only really annoying problem I have with my CD is that the controller the CD is on seems to be permanently active after the probe sequence (i.e. the drive busy light on the box comes on and stays on) until the drive has been opened. This used to cause problems for me with using the disk on the same controller until I realised what was happening. > Scott > > =========================================================================== > Scott Mitchell, CompSci Dept, Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK > email: scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk WWW: http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~scott/ > finger scott@ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk for PGP public key > > ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 14:32:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA18822 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18745 Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:32:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601312232.OAA18745@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: yves@CC.McGill.CA cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , Dave Richards , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3c509 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:09:14 EST." <199601312009.PAA12521@maelstrom.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:32:10 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, > >> Have these patches been submitted/rolled into -current? > > >Not that I know of. And I do not know if they will ever be.... > >regards, >Yves Lepage Serge's patches to the driver went into the tree on Sunday night. The driver has other problems that cause it to hang the card now that David has removed the cludge that caused it to timeout every second and reset the card. Whose got docs for this card? -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 14:38:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA19399 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [142.77.249.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19353 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA05392; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:36:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:36:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: yves@CC.McGill.CA, Dave Richards , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3c509 In-Reply-To: <199601312232.OAA18745@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > Serge's patches to the driver went into the tree on Sunday night. > The driver has other problems that cause it to hang the card now > that David has removed the cludge that caused it to timeout every > second and reset the card. Whose got docs for this card? > what causes the lockouts? just heavy network traffic? I'm running two of them right now, and haven't noticed any problems...yet Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 15:05:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA21906 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from telco.com (ns.telco.com [192.190.11.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21898 Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by firewall.telco.com id <85762>; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:00:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:01:48 -0500 From: maguire@telco.com (Mark Maguire) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: installing and booting FreeBSD Cc: phk@freebsd.org Message-Id: <96Jan31.180042est.85762@firewall.telco.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying to install FreeBSD on by system for 3 days, but to no avail. After talking to tech support at Walnut Creek they seem to think that it has something to do with the fact that I am using Ontrack Disk Manager on my system. If I may, I'd like to describe my system so that you can, perhaps, recommend the best way to proceed with the installation. 486/66 CD-ROM Teac cd55A (not supported) C: 850 MByte WD running Ontrack Disk Manager and Windows 95 (yuk). D: 1.2 GByte Maxtor on which FreeBSD will be installed. 3.5" floppy 1) Do I use the Ontrack Disk Manager on D: ? 2) How should I partition D: ((DOS and FreeBSD) or only FreeBSD)? 3) What about the disk geometry? 4) What should I use for the Boot Manager? I would appreciate any help you could give. Thank You, Mark Maguire From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 15:11:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22311 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:11:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22306 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04161; Wed, 31 Jan 96 17:11:39 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA20294; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:11:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:11:38 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9601312311.AA20294@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: mpp@mpp.minn.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601312045.OAA05577@mpp.minn.net> Subject: Re: line command Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Pritchard writes: Mike> I'm trying to get some of the scripts in Mike> /usr/src/share/man/tools working, and some of them use a Mike> "line" command. Does anyone have any idea what this command Mike> is supposed to do, and what the else I might use in its Mike> place? Reads up to newline or EOF on standard input and echos the read data to standard output. Non-POSIX version supports a -t option. Replace with `read' in sh, $< in csh, others in other shells. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish. -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 15:16:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22679 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22671 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05508; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:19:44 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601312319.PAA05508@MediaCity.com> Subject: gcc -mpentium To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:19:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: multimedia@star-gate.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD 2.2-current mpeg_play lair.mpg fps on time and fps display no display stock gcc 4.5 95.893+1.329 12.5828 gcc -mpentium -O6 *4.8 93.033+1.495 13.0355 gcc -mpentium -O9 *4.9 93.371+1.410 12.9311 talisman tmplay+ 30 43.765 (does not have a no display option) I also might be using the wrong dither, which I set to ORDERED_DITHER2. * the colors are wrong in the display window. + hardware MPEG decoder obviously the dithering for an 8 bit display is helped by the pentium optimizations. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] How to program in c++: // From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 15:32:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24154 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24148 Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA09984; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:32:29 -0600 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:32:28 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: compiling current kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have finished makeworld and am trying to make a -current kernel, but I get this message: cocoa# config COCOA Removing old directory ../../compile/COCOA: Done. Unknown % construct in generic makefile: %SFILES Kernel build directory is ../../compile/COCOA cocoa# when I go to /sys/compile/COCOA almost all of the files are from 14 - 16 bytes any ideas? Daniel -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 16:34:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28682 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28660 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA07734 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:33:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199602010033.AA07734@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:33:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: mario@lsi.usp.br "PCI Development" (Jan 31, 20:03) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: mario@lsi.usp.br Subject: Re: PCI Development Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 31, 20:03, mario@lsi.usp.br wrote: } Subject: PCI Development } I'm interested to develop a FreeBSD driver for a PCI card. } I would like some hints to begin this work. } Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Well, take a look at the external definitions provided by /sys/pci/pci.c, since this is what you should use to interface to PCI. The initialization code of the NCR driver (it is a very short fraction of the whole driver!) could be used as a sample for the registration of the memory/port resources and the interrupt handler. Send mail, if you have any particular question. Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 16:40:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA29190 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp6.netcom.com [163.179.3.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29182 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from svr.UUCP by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id QAA26897; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:30:31 -0800 From: Dale Phillips X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD and commercial s/w Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:26:35 PST Message-ID: <9601311626.aa13490@svr.tabfs.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk If I were to buy a piece of commercial s/w for word processing... What version of unix should I buy it for? Dale From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 16:40:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA29257 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp6.netcom.com [163.179.3.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29238 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from svr.UUCP by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id QAA27151; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:36:50 -0800 From: Dale Phillips X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: jBase Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:33:26 PST Message-ID: <9601311633.aa13652@svr.tabfs.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone tried to get jBase to work on FreeBSD? They have a ELF version for linux. Could I use this version on freebsd? jBase is a pick like database that does not use a byte code compiler. It generates c source for native operation on the host machine. Thanks Dale Phillips dphillip@tabfs.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 17:36:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA03468 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03462 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA10439; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:36:26 -0600 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:36:24 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SB16 not always working... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Most of the time, my Sound Blaster 16 will work perfectly, but every once in a while, I'll bootup, and it just won't work. sox will die on signal 11 and is says /dev/dsp0: busy or something like that. But it's not! I've tried delete snd0 and remaking it to no avail.. Any ideas? -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 17:36:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA03485 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:36:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.84.158.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03460 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:36:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA12894; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:36:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:36:33 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Memory leak in iijppp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I caught iijppp with 27MB of memory tied up after about 3 days of continuous use. This this normal!? Smells like a memory leak! :-( Andrew Webster - andrew@pubnix.net - http://www.pubnix.net PubNIX Montreal - Connected to the world - Branche au monde 514-990-5911 - P.O. Box 147, Cote St-Luc, Quebec, H4V 2Y3 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 17:50:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA04377 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04371 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA27957; Thu, 1 Feb 96 02:49:55 +0100 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 02:49:55 +0100 Message-Id: <9602010149.AA27957@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: mpp@mpp.minn.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601312045.OAA05577@mpp.minn.net> Subject: Re: line command X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Mike Pritchard" writes: > I'm trying to get some of the scripts in /usr/src/share/man/tools > working, and some of them use a "line" command. Does anyone > have any idea what this command is supposed to do, and what > the else I might use in its place? You can try to look at /usr/src/share/man/tools/line.c :-) Jean-Marc > -- > Mike Pritchard > mpp@minn.net > "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 18:39:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA10317 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10305 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id VAA23968; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:39:12 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199602010239.VAA23968@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: expect To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:39:11 +73900 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to install expect-5.16 from the CD. In the /usr/ports/lang/expect, I successfully "make". But when I am trying to "make install", I got following error. What am I doing wrong here? Thanks. Regards, UGR (uh@cs.fsu.edu) ================================================ ... ... TCL_LIBRARY=`echo ./../tcl7.3 | sed -e 's/-I//`/library ; export TCL_LIBRARY ; if ./expect ./fixcat ; then /usr/bin/install -c -o bin -g bin ./fixcat/usr/local/lib/expect/cat-buffers ; else true; fi for i in timed-run timed-read ftp-rfc autopasswd lpunlock weather passmass rftp kibitz rlogin-cwd xpstat tkpasswd dislocate xkibitz tknewsbiff unbuffer mkpasswd cryptdir decryptdir end_of_list ; do if [ -f $i ] ; then /usr/bin/install -c -o bin -g bin $i /usr/local/bin/$i ; chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/$i ; rm $i ; else true; fi ; done for i in kibitz dislocate xkibitz tknewsbiff unbuffer mkpasswd passmass cryptdir decryptdir end_of_list ; do if [ -f ./example/$i.man ] ; then /usr/bin/install -c -o bin -g bin ./example/$i.man /usr/local/man/man1/$i.1 ; chmod a+rx /usr/local/man/man1/$i.1 ; else true; fi ; done ** Missing package files for expect-5.16 - installation not recorded. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 ===================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 19:08:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA15018 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA14876 Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA21412; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:51:42 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602010321.NAA21412@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Willows To: chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:51:42 +1030 (CST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601311748.MAA19097@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu" at Jan 31, 96 12:48:08 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu stands accused of saying: > > Any word on a port to freebsd of willows TWIN XPDK for UNIX? > I would *very* much like to try it out and the word was that there was > going to be a port (presumably be willows). There was noise about how on 31/1 the source would be available. It's 1/2 here, and still no source visible 8) Seriously, register for FTP access, and send them a mail to mention that you want to use it under FreeBSD. Jordan can politik, but groundswell support will make his case a lot easier. http://www.willows.com/ > Charles Green, PRC Inc. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 19:20:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA16143 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from Nastassja.esfm.ipn.mx (esfm.ipn.mx [148.204.102.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA16127 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gina.esfm.ipn.mx by Nastassja.esfm.ipn.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10297; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:15:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by Gina.esfm.ipn.mx; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Jan96-0326PM) id AA00582; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:23:03 -0600 Message-Id: <9602010323.AA00582@Gina.esfm.ipn.mx> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 21:23:03 -0600 From: Eduardo Viruena Silva X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; OSF1 V2.0 alpha) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel for IDE-CDROM X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello there, I own an IDE-CDROM, FreeBSD 2.1 and a Pentium/75. I used inst_ide.bat for installing FreeBSD and it worked flawlessly. But, when the installation was completed, I noticed that the drivers for my IDE-CDROM just desappeared. I have compiled the FreeBSD kernel before, but I never have configurated it for the IDE-CDROM. In my configuration file, I included: controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr options ATAPI driver wcd0 I think it *must* work, but it didn't. Any suggestions ? Thanks in advanced. mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx /\ /\ _ / \/ \ \___/_\ __ ( O O _) / / / \ /\ / ___ / / ___ | |\ / / | / / / |_|_ O __/____/\__/\___|/___/\__/ \/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 19:38:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA17504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from s1.GANet.NET (s1.GANet.NET [199.18.201.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17497 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ec0@localhost) by s1.GANet.NET (8.6.11/8.6.11) id WAA05235; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:37:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:37:22 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Chet To: Wayne Hernandez cc: questions Subject: Re: using sudo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello The package uses libdescrypt, if your system is set up to use libscrypt it will never validate. -- ejc work: ejc@nasvr1.cb.att.com home: ec0@ganet.net On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Wayne Hernandez wrote: > I have setup the sudoers file, but when it ask's for the password, it > won't take either my password or root's password. Is their something > else that I missed? > > Wayne > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 19:59:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA19088 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA19077 Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:59:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199602010359.TAA19077@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: yves@CC.McGill.CA, Dave Richards , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3c509 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:36:36 EST." Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:59:47 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >> Serge's patches to the driver went into the tree on Sunday night. >> The driver has other problems that cause it to hang the card now >> that David has removed the cludge that caused it to timeout every >> second and reset the card. Whose got docs for this card? >> > what causes the lockouts? just heavy network traffic? I'm >running two of them right now, and haven't noticed any problems...yet What version of the driver are you running? I don't know when david changed the watchdog timer for the driver, but 2.1-Stable and -current should have the problem. I can't test it myself since I don't have a network at home for the moment, but I do own a 3C509. > >Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting >System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, > Administrator | | Information and > scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 20:37:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA21195 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21187 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA17754 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:36:37 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199601312036.UAA17754@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: loss of print data during ftp To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:36:37 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am using Freebsd 2.05. My configuration includes 28.8 modem to my Internet Service Provider running iijppp. Every time when LPD is busy printing and a ftp session is busy downloading a big file, my printer stops and my printout is all messed up. The same thing happens when I do WWW browsing while the printer is printing. Thanks for your help. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 21:05:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA22713 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from argus.flash.net (root@argus.flash.net [206.149.25.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22682 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by argus.flash.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA05640; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 23:02:53 -0600 From: mailing list account Message-Id: <199602010502.XAA05640@argus.flash.net> Subject: Re: good NTP servers To: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 23:02:53 +73800 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jlevine@time-A.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov In-Reply-To: from "Pete Carah" at Jan 31, 96 00:09:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk okay... I'm going to try to get the official word here... It seems illogical that NIST would be synched to USNO, it follows everything that I've heard that it is the other way around where USNO would synch to NIST. I'm Cc:'ing this to someone who should be able to answer this question: "Between NIST and USNO, who obtains synch from whom, and how"? My bet is that USNO is traceable to NIST. In reply: > In article <199601261806.LAA04921@phaeton.artisoft.com> Terry writes: > > > >Since we are on a sort of tangent here, I might as well add to it. 8-). > > Even further on a tangent, and some corrections...: > > (someone else threw in:) > >> tick.usno.navy.mil and tock.usno.navy.mil are sync'ed to Navy Cesium clocks, > >> I am assuming [someone please correct me if I am wrong] that these clocks > >> are sync'ed in a method similar to that described on pp 10 and 11 of NIST > >> Special Pub 432, as the Cesium sources at the USNO are traceable to NIST. > The other way around; USNO syncs NIST. > > >> The method described on pg 10 is accurate to less than 100ns, this is > >> utilizing GPS... this is pure assumption based on the fact that the > >> Cesium Primary Standards in use at the USNO are tracable to NIST, and > >> that NIST uses the GPS method as described to sync the Primary standards > >> at WWV, WWVB, and WWVH. > > You can do much better than 100ns with averaging periods of days; I've seen > the GPS sync unit at WWVH and I'm not sure exactly how it's used but it > isn't a short-term correction to the local cesium source. As far as I > know it's used for a long term rate correction. > > >> Since all three sites are using NIST tracable Cesium Primary Standards, > >> I guess that would make all three sites stratum 1 servers... sorry folx... > > USNO's ntp sites aren't directly sync'd to cesium standards; they use > H-masers that are in turn sync'd to cesium standards. (h-masers are > more short-term stable). The computers apparently do use their standard > cheap crystals for the cpu clock, though they may have modified > oscillators there too. I don't know how much their kernel timekeeping > is modified; ours is substantially modified from standard BSD. > (they run HPUX which is often gratuitously different from "normal" > unix...) > > >The inaccuracy on pg 10 is due to pseudo-random "jitter" in the GPS > >signal. The Navy, being a branch of the US military, has access to the > >generator and key pair and so GPS is significantly more accurate for > >them > > Not totally true for USNO; they define GPS time so the codes are not > relevant for what you're worried about. They do need to use the codes > in keeping PPS in sync; most civilian receivers don't use PPS at all and > those that do use it only for a noise source. > > >(many airports in the US are generating adjustment base references > >for GPS based on known lattitude/longitude positions of the adjusting > >signal source to defeat this intentional inaccuracy in the GPS position > >fixing for non-military grade GPS). > > which works pretty well. Note that the FAA's differential system > is *not* yet in service, and probably won't be for some years. The Coast > Guard's diff system isn't geared up to improve time measurements, though > it could probably halve the jitter over a few-second period. Given that > the receiver jitter is much less than the possible transfer accuracy from > a GPS receiver to a freebsd system (a few microseconds), SA hardly matters... > > The imposed jitter per satellite is up to 300ns (it actually can be > somewhat more); the time measurement can be quite a bit better if the > least-squares solution is used to update a Kalman filter with a few-second > or longer period. (Tom Clark of NASA claims 40-50ns on non-SA-corrected > Motorola receivers with standard microcode; see his ftp site, which I > forget right now). This is about as good as the receiver can be > considering its 10mhz internal clock source. > > SA specs call for a 100 meter horizontal uncertainty in location 95% > of the time. What they don't tell you is: > 1. What is the offset the other 5%; i've seen 1/4 mile on rare > occasions. > 2. The time constant or other nature of the distribution. It is > *not* unbiased on any one satellite, nor is it anything like gaussian. > It is entirely possible (I don't think they do this) for them to > keep the error at 99 meters all the time, wandering randomly around > a circle with one side favored most of the time (though it is hard > to arrange this for very long for more than one location on the earth...) > 3. The vertical uncertainty is about twice the horizontal (this is > a geometric problem having to do with the fact that you can't see > the sat's below you). > 4. They do promise that the apparent velocity due to SA alone of a > point fixed on the earth will be less than some (about a knot) > speed. Many hand-held GPS receivers have some hysteresis at 0 > speed so that it takes a constant speed for some period of time > or a few knots speed for less time, before it will display non-0. > Mine (GPS45) will follow a fast walk pretty well, though. > > If you have a cheap (or even expensive) GPS with a map mode, go to > constant-time update on the map at the smallest scale, and wait an hour > or two and look at the resulting plot. It can be interesting :-) > > For real accuracy, there are some post-time differential master stations > on the web; JPL (topex/poseidon) operates one of them. > > >The Navy's clocks are probably accurate to much better than 100ns if they > >are using military grade GPS. > > Actually the USNO clocks are the *definition* of time for the US; NIST > is sync'd to them via GPS. See http://www.usno.navy.mil/ under the > 'directorate of time' link for details. > > USNO are *not* _using_ gps; it's the other way around. They feed the > gps system its sync (probably via the USAF). > > Their NTP servers claim "a few 10s of microseconds". At least they have > a decent connection to the civilian internet; if they went through > the normal milnet gateways they would have more of both delay and jitter > than ntp can decently handle. (hundreds of milliseconds) > > NTP on a T1 has around a millisecond of uncertainty, depending mostly > on the router traffic (about half that on an unloaded circuit). > Therefore whose stratum-1 source you look at is not terribly relevant > unless you are doing things that need more precision than ntp can deliver > anyway, or you are on an unloaded ethernet with a st.1 machine. > > -- Pete > Jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" jbryant@argus.flash.net - FlashNet Communications - Ft. Worth, Texas From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 21:29:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA24239 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (schizo.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24233 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mrcpu@localhost) by schizo.cdsnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA11757; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:30:14 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:30:13 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , yves@CC.McGill.CA, Dave Richards , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3c509 In-Reply-To: <199602010359.TAA19077@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I missed the first part of this, but if somebody can recap real quick. I'm running all 3com 3c509's (3c509B's I think), in all my boxes, and I'm not having any problems that I'm aware of related to hangs in the cards. Backups are down each night via NFS, which is about as much stress as they get. On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > > >> Serge's patches to the driver went into the tree on Sunday night. > >> The driver has other problems that cause it to hang the card now > >> that David has removed the cludge that caused it to timeout every > >> second and reset the card. Whose got docs for this card? > >> > > what causes the lockouts? just heavy network traffic? I'm > >running two of them right now, and haven't noticed any problems...yet > > What version of the driver are you running? I don't know when > david changed the watchdog timer for the driver, but 2.1-Stable > and -current should have the problem. I can't test it myself > since I don't have a network at home for the moment, but I do > own a 3C509. > > > > >Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting > >System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, > > Administrator | | Information and > > scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc > > > > -- > Justin T. Gibbs > =========================================== > FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations > =========================================== > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 22:52:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA29323 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from tippy.vnet.net (tippy.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA29310 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:52:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by tippy.vnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA04888; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:52:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:52:15 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Madison To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xdr_double Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, FBSD 2.1-stable. Ummm.....I really don't know how to explain this, b/c I'm new to rpc, but when I try and compile the server side of my app it fails b/c xdr_double is an undefined symbol. I looked in rpc/xdr.h and xdr_double is there, so I #included it in _xdr.c and that didn't help. In _xdr.c other filters like xdr_int and xdr_vector are there and are working. Is there something weird specifically with xdr_double, or does something extra need to be included? thanks chris From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 31 23:30:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA01745 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 23:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from landolost.infinet.com (root@cmh-p047.infinet.com [206.103.242.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA01740 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 23:30:22 -0800 (PST) From: havlicek@infinet.com Received: from landolost by landolost.infinet.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0thu2y-0003nKC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 03:07 EST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 01 Feb 96 03:07:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: question X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org//mailto.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have been thinking about running BSD for a couple of years. I use linux. Are the BSD guys still a bunch of assholes? They were a bunch of pricks the last time I considered switching. If the assholes have been washed out of the system I might consider it. BSD is not impressive because it promotes asshole comments to new users. I think if yu want anybody to to use BSD you need to straighten up your act. -MIKE From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 00:08:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA04814 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA04797 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:08:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA28659; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:11:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199602010811.JAA28659@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: using sudo To: ec0@s1.GANet.NET (Eric Chet) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:11:00 +0100 (MET) Cc: hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Eric Chet" at Jan 31, 96 10:37:22 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello > > The package uses libdescrypt, if your system is set up to use libscrypt > it will never validate. > > -- ejc > work: ejc@nasvr1.cb.att.com > home: ec0@ganet.net > > > On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Wayne Hernandez wrote: > > > I have setup the sudoers file, but when it ask's for the password, it > > won't take either my password or root's password. Is their something > > else that I missed? Are you using passwords with length > 8 ? The FreeBSD sudo port is broken WRT pwd length. It could be fixed easily though by increasing the PWDLEN (something like that) in a header file. > > > > Wayne > > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 00:22:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA05634 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:22:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA05614 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA28203; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:21:39 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA27399; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:21:38 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id JAA25852; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:06:42 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199602010806.JAA25852@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: compiling current kernel To: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (Daniel Baker) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:06:41 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Daniel Baker" at Jan 31, 96 05:32:28 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Daniel Baker wrote: > > I have finished makeworld and am trying to make a -current kernel, but > I get this message: > > cocoa# config COCOA > Removing old directory ../../compile/COCOA: Done. > Unknown % construct in generic makefile: %SFILES When running -current, update your config(8) properly. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 00:32:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA06353 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06348 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04714; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:31:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:31:36 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Terry Lambert cc: ahill@interconnect.com.au, pbanks@candle.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS In-Reply-To: <199601311751.KAA10064@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > There is also dosboot, but nobody seems to know how to use it. Idea is > > that you have kernel in DOS filesystem and ... docs speak about kernel > > root partition (if I remember correct) Maybe it could also be used as > > netboot: swap and root in another node (NFS). > > The idea is that you can load the BSD second stage boot and start it > from a DOS program. > > "DOSBOOT"/"FBSDBOOT" has nothing to do with running with a "/" mounted > on a DOS partition. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org I am using netboot in a lab. It works. Maybe dosboot (waht is fbsdboot?) is faster to boot. How could I test it? Is there instructions somewhere? Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 00:41:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA06910 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06905 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA01189; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:42:57 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199602010842.AAA01189@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Maxoptix Tahiti-II Removable Read-Write Optical drive To: ishort@pcm.co.za (Irvine Short) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:42:57 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, brian@MediaCity.com In-Reply-To: <461592004ED@pcm.co.za> from "Irvine Short" at Jan 31, 96 12:22:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > [brian writes] > > I've been using a MaxOptic Tahiti I under FreeBSD since 2.0.5, and > > am currently using it under 2.2, which unfortunately doesn't > > exactly answer your question. > > Have you been using it as a straight SCSI disk, with the jumpers > changed to make the Tahiti appear as a non removable device, and then > umounting to change disks? > Irvine Short Yes. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] How to program in c++: // From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 01:21:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA09319 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:21:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA09313 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA074986449; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:20:50 -0800 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA017836448; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:20:49 -0800 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA110506447; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:20:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199602010920.AA110506447@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: Peter Dufault Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Querying for grown defects? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jan 1996 07:49:29 EST." <199601311249.HAA24721@hda.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 01:20:47 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Thanks, but I've already verified that AWRE and ARRE are set to "1" > > (they weren't originally, but I did set them via the "-e -P 3" option).. > > Just last night, I started to get occasional "media errors" (which is > > what started all this), and I'm trying to figure out if the drive is: > > Are the failures on read? The drive won't automatically slip a sector > on a read failure without recovered data. I believe that they're read failures. Anyway, the drive seems to have reassigned the block, as the problem seems to have "gone away" (it was reproducible by editing a particular file, but no longer). > I have a program that will use REASSIGN BLOCKS to reassign the blocks. > Let me know if you want it and I'll send it. Thanks, but I don't think I'll need it. I hunted down the SCSI specs and whacked together a general-purpose perl script that uses scsi(8) to query for the primary and grown defects list. [ I'd like to thank you and Julian for scsi(8)! ] Assuming that I got everything right, my disk might be dying -- there are 19 grown defects. All are on head 10, and the sector numbers are fairly clustered -- all are either <= 2 or >= 52. The track numbers are a bit more varied, though, being between 721 and 1186. I'll have to periodically check to see if more defects appear .... The next thing to do is to figure out how to find out how many spare blocks I have left .... -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 01:23:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA09403 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-12.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA09397 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA19520; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:22:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:22:57 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: Clay Jackson cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: config problem? In-Reply-To: <01BAEF6B.BED6D780@ip235.seattle.wa.interramp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Clay Jackson wrote: > I just tried to use config as part of compiling a new kernel, and it complained about: > > ident N7QNM >[...] > syntax error at line 11: In the config file format, anything that contains numbers or special characters (except "_") must be surrounded by quotes. The only things that can remain unquoted are alphanumeric strings that have "_" as the only non-alpha caracter in them. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 02:37:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA15729 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:37:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA15719 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA28189; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:38:35 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199602011038.FAA28189@hda.com> Subject: Re: loss of print data during ftp To: fyeung@fyeung5.netific.com (francis yeung) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:38:35 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601312036.UAA17754@fyeung5.netific.com> from "francis yeung" at Jan 31, 96 08:36:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am using Freebsd 2.05. My configuration includes 28.8 modem > to my Internet Service Provider running iijppp. > > Every time when LPD is busy printing and a ftp session is busy > downloading a big file, my printer stops and my printout is all > messed up. The same thing happens when I do WWW browsing while > the printer is printing. Are you running a polled lpt driver? I just saw a similar problem with 2.05-stable on an Asus 486 motherboard (from Rod, I don't remember the exact model). After adding a 1200 baud (!) line to a temperature controller I started losing output to the line printer. By disabling the motherboard parallel port and adding an external one that properly supported interrupts, and enabling interrupts, the problem went away. This is the same system running 4 lines continuously at 115200 on a Boca board with no problem. It was adding the 1200 baud connected to serial port 2 of the motherboard that broke things. It is completely repeatable. -- Peter Dufault Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 03:09:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA17958 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 03:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from vogon.muc.de (root@vogon.muc.de [193.174.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA17948 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 03:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [193.174.4.22] ([193.174.4.22]) by vogon.muc.de with SMTP id <93322-2>; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:57:40 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:32:53 +0100 To: hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU From: lutz@muc.de (Lutz Albers) Subject: Re: using sudo Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In article , Wayne Hernandez writes: - -I have setup the sudoers file, but when it ask's for the password, it -won't take either my password or root's password. Is their something -else that I missed? Hello, you need to tell sudo to use the standard password routine. Just #define USE_GETPASS in config.h. ciao lutz --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lutz Albers | What's good ? Luederitzstr. 14, 81929-Muenchen, Germany | Life's good - email:lutz@muc.de ph: +49-89-93940364 | But not fair at all http://www.muc.de/~lutz fax:+49-89-93940365 | (Lou Reed) Do not take life too seriously, you will never get out of it alive. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 03:37:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA19968 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 03:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from angelica.campus.luth.se (root@angelica.campus.luth.se [130.240.194.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA19963 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 03:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smurfen@localhost) by angelica.campus.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00381; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:37:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:37:23 +0100 (MET) From: Ola Persson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mcast Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Where can I find docs and faqs on how to install mcast ? I try to run sd now but is says IO_MULTICAST_LOOP: Invalid argument Thanks in advice... /Ola Persson Smurfy@IRC ------------------------------------------------------------ I Ola Persson I Phone: +46 (0)920 - 151 21 I I Porsogarden 8:81 I MiniCall: 0746 - 19 42 36 I I 977 54 Lulea I WWW: http://angelica.campus.luth.se I I SWEDEN I --- I run FreeBSD.... Do you ? --- I ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 03:51:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA20543 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 03:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-12.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA20538 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 03:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA27245; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 03:51:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 03:51:54 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: how to un-restrict finger? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I notice that FreeBSD finger is setup so that, when someone does "finger @my.machine.edu", they instead of getting a listing of all on-line users, they get "must provide username". I know that some people like this more secure/private/whatever way of finger, but I don't. How do I make finger work like it should? Do i have to hack on the sources for fingerd, or is there a command-line switch or something I can use on it? or what? Please let me know, thanks! Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 04:07:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA21329 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 04:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA21322 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 04:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA01634; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 04:07:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199602011207.EAA01634@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to un-restrict finger? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Feb 1996 03:51:54 PST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 04:07:05 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I notice that FreeBSD finger is setup so that, when someone does "finger >@my.machine.edu", they instead of getting a listing of all on-line users, >they get "must provide username". I know that some people like this more >secure/private/whatever way of finger, but I don't. How do I make finger >work like it should? Do i have to hack on the sources for fingerd, or is >there a command-line switch or something I can use on it? or what? >Please let me know, thanks! RTFM - "man fingerd", then edit /etc/inetd.conf and remove the -s. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 05:11:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA24978 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA24967 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:10:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from itrsp2.fb10.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (PP); Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:08:40 +0100 Message-Id: <9602011108.AA02771@itrsp2.fb10.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 96 12:08:37 0100 From: Goetz Fischer X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.2 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: psm0 not found at 0x60 X-Url: http://www.de.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a Gigabyte Board GA586ATE with PS/2-port on it. After building a new kernel with psm0 support and/or-not no_reset option it doesn't find the mouseport. IRQ 12 isn't used by another device. The mouse is a Microsoft Carrera PS/2 / seriell mouse and works fine in OS/2 and DOS on the PS/2-Port. What to do?? By Goetz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Goetz Fischer * * e-mail: gofi1033@zrzsp8.fb10.tu-berlin.de * * Tel. : 030 314-22495 * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 05:58:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA27414 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from border.com (janus.border.com [199.71.190.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA27409 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by janus.border.com id <20494>; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:05:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:57:45 -0500 From: Jerry Kendall To: Kent Hansson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP In-Reply-To: <199601311833.TAA07052@bure.abc.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <96Feb1.090501est.20494@janus.border.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Did you setup a default route from your system out to the ISP's side of things.... If not, ask the ISP for the IP address to use for their end of things.... Then enter 'route add default ' If this works, modifiy the startup scripts to do this for you.. On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Kent Hansson wrote: > > Hi all! > First i`d like to thank everyone who`s working width FreeBSD it`s > GREAT. > > Now my question. I am trying to connect to my ISP i`m using iijPPP > and doublechecked all configurations. I can connect to my ISP but if > i try for example telnet i just get the message "trying x.x.x.x" i > have the IP in "hosts". Is there any known problems not described in > the handbook or do anyone have any idea were i could start to look > for truoble. > > I`m a novice in networking so this could be a simple problem. > > I`ve just upgraded to 2.1 > > Thanks > > "I`m still learning" > Kent.Hansson@abc.se > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any comments or opinions in this message are my own and may or may not reflect the comments or opinions of my present or previous employers. Jerry Kendall Border Network Technologies Inc. System Software Engineer Tel +1-416-368-7157 ext 303 jerry@border.com Fax +1-416-368-7178 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 06:02:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA27912 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA27896 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA05435; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:01:59 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:01:59 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to un-restrict finger? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Delete the option of finger in /etc/inetd.conf Seppo On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > I notice that FreeBSD finger is setup so that, when someone does "finger > @my.machine.edu", they instead of getting a listing of all on-line users, > they get "must provide username". I know that some people like this more > secure/private/whatever way of finger, but I don't. How do I make finger > work like it should? Do i have to hack on the sources for fingerd, or is > there a command-line switch or something I can use on it? or what? > Please let me know, thanks! > > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 06:34:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA29683 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from horst.bfd.com ([204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA29678 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA10651 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:31:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:37:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with AHA2842 & 2.0.5? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been getting periodic (kernel?) messages. Can anyone tell me what's happening? Setup 486DX120 w/32Meg ram AHA2842 SCSI controller 2GB SCSI Hard Drive (can't remember the make & model) FreeBSD 2.0.5-Release Error: Jan 27 03:30:37 horst /kernel: ahc_scsi_cmd1: more than 256 DMA segs Jan 27 03:30:37 horst /kernel: sd0: oops not queued Jan 27 03:30:37 horst /kernel: biodone: buffer already done Jan 27 03:30:38 horst /kernel: ahc_scsi_cmd1: more than 256 DMA segs Jan 27 03:30:38 horst /kernel: sd0: oops not queued Jan 27 03:30:38 horst /kernel: biodone: buffer already done Anyway, I suspect I'll get told to update to 2.1.0-stable. What's the easiest way to do this? This is our web/mail server, so minimal downtime is a good idea. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 06:40:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA00124 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (tick.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA00118 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA06011; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:39:30 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Glowacki Message-Id: <199602011439.IAA06011@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Michael Smith cc: chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Willows In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Feb 1996 13:51:42 +1030." <199602010321.NAA21412@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:39:22 -0600 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu stands accused of saying: > > > > Any word on a port to freebsd of willows TWIN XPDK for UNIX? > > I would *very* much like to try it out and the word was that there was > > going to be a port (presumably be willows). > > There was noise about how on 31/1 the source would be available. It's 1/2 > here, and still no source visible 8) > > Seriously, register for FTP access, and send them a mail to mention that > you want to use it under FreeBSD. Jordan can politik, but groundswell > support will make his case a lot easier. > > http://www.willows.com/ It's there now. I registered, got instructions on FTP access, logged into ftp.willows.com and grabbed twin-src-1.5.0.tgz (dated Feb 1. 3:10) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 07:02:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA01297 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from bkinis1-1.morgan.com (bkinis.ms.com [204.254.196.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01292 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bkinis1-1.morgan.com (8.6.12/sendmail.cf.firewall v0.66beta) id KAA06638 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:01:59 -0500 Received: from unknown(144.14.62.180) by bkinis1-1.morgan.com via smap (V1.3) id sma006601; Thu Feb 1 10:01:55 1996 Received: from swanton.Morgan.COM by ns1-f0.morgan.com (4.1/MS/FID/Sun-1.3) id AA29264; Thu, 1 Feb 96 10:01:55 EST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 10:01:55 EST Message-Id: <9602011501.AA29264@ns1-f0.morgan.com> From: aduff@morgan.com (Adam Duff) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: partitioning a large disk? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been having problems determining how I should partition my hard drive in order to run FreeBSD, in addition to Windows NT and Linux which I am currently already running. I have a Fujitsu 4.35GB Fast/Wide SCSI drive, connected to a Buslogic 956C SCSI controller. Currently Windows NT is installed in the first primary partition, from 0 to 340MB (sda1). The Linux root partition is installed in second primary partition, from 341 to 640 MB (sda2). Finally, I attempted to install FreeBSD in the third primary partition from 641 to 1023 MB (sda3). This allows me to select partition 2 as the boot partition, and use LILO as the boot manager. All the boot partitions are below 1023 cylinders, so everything boots, and it all appears to work fine. But, I have a ton of software and data files to install under each OS (hence the 4 gig drive!), and so have created an extended partition (sda4) from 1024 to 4350 MB. And within this extended partition I've created NTFS, Linux, and Linux swap extended partitions. Also, I created a 1 GB FreeBSD extended partition (sda9). The problem is that I cannot install to, or mount this extended partition. I see a brief blurb about how FreeBSD doesn't recognise DOS extended partitions in the handbook, so apparently this is a known problem. (?) So - the question is - what do I do now? I'd like to run all three OS's, booting all three off the hard drive (preferably), with about 1GB for NT, 1.5 GB for Linux and 1.5GB for FreeBSD. How do I do this? Any assistance greatly appreciated. Regards, Adam. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 07:13:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA01869 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01858 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA29725 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:16:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:16:29 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199602011516.QAA29725@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: anyone familar with mail bounces interpretation? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I got the following bounce when I wanted to send a mail to connectix.com: among other things: 554 ... Local configuration error (I sent to support and root). Does it mean 'local configuration error' at my site or theirs? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 07:17:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA02086 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA02079 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA24193; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:01:11 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602011531.CAA24193@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Willows To: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU (Dave Glowacki) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:01:08 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602011439.IAA06011@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> from "Dave Glowacki" at Feb 1, 96 08:39:22 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dave Glowacki stands accused of saying: > It's there now. > > I registered, got instructions on FTP access, logged into ftp.willows.com > and grabbed twin-src-1.5.0.tgz (dated Feb 1. 3:10) This looks (from first impressions) really well laid out. The porting guide makes it sound so easy 8) User-LDT access is already available; we have dlopen & friends, anyone care to comment about what happens when a process generates an interrupt? Staggeringly, that's about the limit of the porting issues. Scary. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 07:38:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA03825 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw0.telebase.com (root@gw0.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA03820 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by gw0.telebase.com id KAA26818; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from bones.telebase.com (bones.telebase.com [172.16.2.212]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.7.1/8.6.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07814; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from steves@localhost) by bones.telebase.com (8.6.12/8.6.9.1) id KAA05920; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:38:05 -0500 From: Steve Sapovits Message-Id: <199602011538.KAA05920@telebase.com.> Subject: Re: using sudo To: hernanw@FSL.ORST.EDU (Wayne Hernandez) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:38:04 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Wayne Hernandez" at Jan 31, 96 11:46:57 am Reply-To: steves@telebase.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Wayne Hernandez wrote: > I have setup the sudoers file, but when it ask's for the password, it > won't take either my password or root's password. Is their something > else that I missed? I had a problem with passwords over 8 characters. logon accepted them but sudo didn't seem to, so you might try checking that. -- Steve Sapovits Telebase Systems (http://www.musicblvd.com and http://www.telebase.com) E-Mail: steves@telebase.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 08:00:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA05851 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from koala.scott.net (root@koala.scott.net [204.181.147.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05845 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from jason.scott.net (dialup61.scott.net [205.241.3.61]) by koala.scott.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04600 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:00:33 -0600 Message-ID: <3110E3A3.41C67EA6@scott.net> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 10:00:35 -0600 From: Jason Gilbert X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b5 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Spice of FreeBSD 2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone out there use or know of a version of Spice for FreeBSD 2.1. I found a version for linux and the readme says that it compiles under gcc. I tried and it didn't work. This however is over-stretching my bounds. Is there someone out there who could give me a hand or pointer. Jason From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 08:09:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA06318 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.eniac.com (zeus.eniac.com [206.98.182.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA06312 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gayala@localhost) by zeus.eniac.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA11489 for questions@freeBSD.ORG; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:07:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:07:09 -0400 From: Gustavo Ayala Carrasquero Message-Id: <199602011607.MAA11489@zeus.eniac.com> To: questions@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Tape Backup support Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi! I am using FreeBSD on a Pentium based system which have an Iomega Ditto Tape backup drive installed. This drive supports the QIC-3020 and the QIC-3010 formats, but the FreeBSD don't do that. Is there any upgrade or new driver or anything I can do to use this Tape drive with FreeBSD (or another BSD operating system)?. I will thank you any information about that... Thanks... -- Gustavo Ayala Carrasquero Email: gustavo.ayala@zeus.eniac.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 08:30:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA08006 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV (root@apollo.COSC.GOV [198.94.103.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA07994 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.7.3/8.6.9) id IAA22709; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) From: -Vince- To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to un-restrict finger? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > I notice that FreeBSD finger is setup so that, when someone does "finger > @my.machine.edu", they instead of getting a listing of all on-line users, > they get "must provide username". I know that some people like this more > secure/private/whatever way of finger, but I don't. How do I make finger > work like it should? Do i have to hack on the sources for fingerd, or is > there a command-line switch or something I can use on it? or what? > Please let me know, thanks! In /etc/inetd.conf, run fingerd without any flags since the -s is the secure flag... Cheers, -Vince- vince@COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin - http://www.COSC.GOV/~vince UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan/Priscilla Chan Fan Club Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 08:35:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA08431 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfire.mn.org (root@starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08395 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:34:52 -0800 (PST) From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id KAA20578 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:36:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199602011636.KAA20578@starfire.mn.org> Subject: unaccounted-for mtime and ctime changes on SUID root programs To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:36:26 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A few times with FreeBSD 2.0.5 and now twice with FreeBSD 2.1(CD), the nightly security check has revealed SUID root programs whose modification times have changed. I have immediately put in the backup tapes, pulled down the original files, and compared them. Every time, they have been identical (which is something of a relief to know that worms or trojan horses are not being left around), but I have to wonder how this is happening, and whether it may be an indication of something sinister but more subtle going on (like someone changing the programs, doing their mischief, and then changing them back). Help? From daemon Wed Jan 31 02:02:47 1996 Received: (from root@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id CAA25289 for root; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:00:32 -0600 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:00:32 -0600 From: root@starfire.mn.org Message-Id: <199601310800.CAA25289@starfire.mn.org> Subject: dexter security check output Apparently-To: root@starfire.mn.org Status: OR checking setuid files and devices: dexter setuid/device diffs: 41c41 < -r-sr-sr-x 3 root kmem 180224 Nov 16 03:59:26 1995 /usr/bin/mailq --- > -r-sr-sr-x 3 root kmem 180224 Jan 30 03:00:12 1996 /usr/bin/mailq 45c45 < -r-sr-sr-x 3 root kmem 180224 Nov 16 03:59:26 1995 /usr/bin/newaliases --- > -r-sr-sr-x 3 root kmem 180224 Jan 30 03:00:12 1996 /usr/bin/newaliases 126c126 < -r-sr-sr-x 3 root kmem 180224 Nov 16 03:59:26 1995 /usr/sbin/sendmail --- > -r-sr-sr-x 3 root kmem 180224 Jan 30 03:00:12 1996 /usr/sbin/sendmail From daemon Thu Feb 1 02:02:32 1996 Received: (from root@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id CAA13705 for root; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:00:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:00:24 -0600 From: root@starfire.mn.org Message-Id: <199602010800.CAA13705@starfire.mn.org> Subject: dexter security check output Apparently-To: root@starfire.mn.org Status: OR checking setuid files and devices: dexter setuid/device diffs: 6c6 < -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 139264 Nov 16 03:50:03 1995 /sbin/mount_msdos --- > -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 139264 Jan 31 13:05:09 1996 /sbin/mount_msdos John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 08:43:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA09086 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA09080 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:43:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199602011643.IAA09080@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: question To: havlicek@infinet.com Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:43:10 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "havlicek@infinet.com" at Feb 1, 96 03:07:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Never leave a login session unattended. you never know who will send mail in your name, or where that mail will go. > > I have been thinking about running BSD for a couple of years. > > I use linux. Are the BSD guys still a bunch of assholes? > > They were a bunch of pricks the last time I considered switching. > > > If the assholes have been washed out of the system I might consider it. > > BSD is not impressive because it promotes asshole comments to new users. > > I think if yu want anybody to to use BSD you need to straighten up your act. > > -MIKE > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 08:57:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA10009 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10003 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:57:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00969; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:56:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:56:14 -0700 (MST) From: Brian Handy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: silo overflow Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can someone tell me what this line out of my syslog means? Jan 27 15:04:24 condor /kernel: sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 2) Jan 27 15:04:32 condor /kernel: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 3) ... (There are maybe 5 or so lines of this.) Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 09:04:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA10341 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:04:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10335 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from hposl03.cup.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA126194244; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:04:07 -0800 Received: by hposl03.cup.hp.com (1.37.109.4/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA06525; Thu, 1 Feb 96 09:10:08 -0800 From: John Fenwick Message-Id: <9602011710.AA06525@hposl03.cup.hp.com> Subject: Install/Configuration questions To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 9:10:07 PST Cc: fenwick@hposl03.cup.hp.com X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.14] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to understand the operation of the FreeBSD boot managers to solve some install difficulties. The install target is a SCSI disk PC. Perhaps you can shed some light on these questions. * Is the boot manager - either booteasy or osbs - typically installed in the first 60-odd sectors of a boot disk, and if so is it installed on top of what existing DOS boot manager may have already been there? * Using one particular install configuration results in only the first 17 sectors of the disk being used to install the boot manager. What has been installed in this case, and why is it different from the 62 or 63 sectors noted above? * If I overwrite my current Win95-installed boot manager by installing one from BSD, would I be able to recover the original Win95-installed boot manager by running the DOS "fdisk /mbr" command? * Are the install tools for boot managers available under UNIX, or are they only available under the DOS tools on the CDROM? If I wanted to migrate my BSD installation to a different disk, would I be able to copy the boot sectors also? Would "dd" be able to do the copy in this case? * Can you recommend some documentation that would describe where such things as the locations and sizes of partition tables, disk labels, and boot managers, are typically found on boot disks? Much thanks for any pointers. - John Fenwick From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 09:08:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA10510 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mandor.dev.com (mandor.dev.com [198.145.93.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10498 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mandor.dev.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mandor.dev.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24365; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:02:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199602011702.JAA24365@mandor.dev.com> To: Michael Smith cc: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU (Dave Glowacki), chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Willows Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 09:02:15 PST From: Brian Smith Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Dave Glowacki stands accused of saying: >> It's there now. >> >> I registered, got instructions on FTP access, logged into ftp.willows.com >> and grabbed twin-src-1.5.0.tgz (dated Feb 1. 3:10) > >This looks (from first impressions) really well laid out. The porting >guide makes it sound so easy 8) > >User-LDT access is already available; we have dlopen & friends, anyone >care to comment about what happens when a process generates an interrupt? The User-LDT even in current is broken in a couple of ways. It was imported from NetBSD a while back, so I just ftp'ed NetBSD kernel src last night to determine what needs to be changed. Your first problem will be that it doesn't allocate enough space for the full 8192 possible LDT entries. I'll email a partial patch to those who need more than 512 LDT entries right now, but, there are still some problems with my current patch, such as leaking memory at process exit. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 09:13:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA10855 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.hcsc.com (hawk.hcsc.com [204.5.22.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10826 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from tawny.ssd.hcsc.com by hawk.hcsc.com (5.61/harris-5.1) id AA13642; Thu, 1 Feb 96 12:12:35 -0500 Received: by tawny.ssd.csd.harris.com (5.61/CX/UX-7.1) id AA02410; Thu, 1 Feb 96 12:12:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:12:34 -0500 (EST) From: Angel Ortiz To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where Can I find a X debugger for g++ Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Questions: I have your FreeBSD version 2.1 product. I have developed some C++ programs and would like to know where can I find a X version of gdb. Also, can you tell me if it would be worth my time and efforts to upgrade to a more recent release of gcc/g++, what are there names and where can I find them? Thanks, Angel G. Ortiz From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 09:55:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA13707 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13702 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13328; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:50:10 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602011750.KAA13328@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS To: kallio@beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:50:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, ahill@interconnect.com.au, pbanks@candle.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Feb 1, 96 10:31:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I am using netboot in a lab. It works. > > Maybe dosboot (waht is fbsdboot?) is faster to boot. How could I test it? > Is there instructions somewhere? /sys/i386/boot/dosboot/readme. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 10:24:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA16217 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16210 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA20509; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:27:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:27:18 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602011827.LAA20509@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Brian Handy Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: silo overflow In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Can someone tell me what this line out of my syslog means? > > Jan 27 15:04:24 condor /kernel: sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 2) > Jan 27 15:04:32 condor /kernel: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 3) It means the hardware couldn't keep up with the serial load. I started seeing that recently on my -stable box at home after I upgraded the kernel, and I *never* saw it before. I'm not sure why, but it might be related to the SPL changes Peter/Bruce made. (Just guessing). It's mostly harmless, but annoying since the only load I have is *ONE* SLIP connection running at 115K on a 486/66 which is mostly unloaded when I get these messages. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 10:25:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA16279 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:25:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gcm.com (gcm.com [146.121.48.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16264 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:25:39 -0800 (PST) From: jasonb@gcm.com Received: (from jasonb@localhost) by gcm.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA19336; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:27:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:27:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199602011827.NAA19336@gcm.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3 BETA X-Personal_name: Jason Bernard Subject: Locking while probing the ISA bus for devices Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying to boot with freeBSD ver 2.1.0. When the bootstrap sequence probes the bus for devices, it never comes back. I eliminated all devices except for the keyboard just to see if I could get beyond this problem, but It did not. I have a 486DX2 66 MHz VESA Green motherboard with: Sony CD-ROM Trident VESA IDE Card AMIBIOS (1993) - American Megatrends L90 Graphics Accelator Card This has: 32 bit VL-local bus (IDE) Conner Tape Drive Maxtor 540 Drive WD 1Gig Drive If you have any suggestions (except for buying a normal machine), I would be appreciative. Thanks, Jason Bernard jasonb@gcm.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 10:31:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA16646 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16640 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA24811; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:33:39 -0500 Received: from buffnet5.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa07139; 1 Feb 96 13:35 EST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:35:08 -0500 (EST) From: steve hovey To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: anyone familar with mail bounces interpretation? In-Reply-To: <199602011516.QAA29725@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > 554 ... Local configuration error > > (I sent to support and root). > > Does it mean 'local configuration error' at my site or theirs? Theirs From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 11:03:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA19185 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:03:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19178 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:03:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bplumeau@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA06632 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:02:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:02:43 -0500 Message-ID: <960201140242_309353641@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Version 2.1 installation problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello Jordon, Last night, after spending countless hours with Adaptec 2825 scsi board problems which I replaced with the standard AHA 1542 board, I finally had what appeared to be a successful installation. I have plenty of room on my hard drive 1gig dos/windows and 1 gig FreeBSD so I did a full installation. During boot up, I had a few errors related to a login and password ie: (myname.my.domain) not a valid password and then the system gets stuck at the login password point and of course I did not enter a login and password during config. How can i get around this password situation so I can re-enter config. I am also concerned that I might have used a default setting during system config that I might have needed to be more specific. Help. I am also looking for a good reference book on FreeBSD. Please recommend one. I Hope to talk to you soon, Bob. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 11:40:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA22397 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22258 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA13360 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:39:23 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199602011939.UAA13360@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Recommendation for a flatbed scanner ? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:39:23 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am looking for a flatbed scanner (possibly a color model) which works decently under FreeBSD (I'd say 2.1). I would like to hear about positive or negative experiences, also with reference to the use of the scanner on the same SCSI bus as the HD or other peripherals. Thanks Luigi From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 11:56:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA23480 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23431 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ATLSER by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7064; Thu, 01 Feb 96 14:55:51 EST Received: by ATLSER (XAGENTA 4.0) id 5379; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:55:33 -0500 Received: by remailer.atlissc.ibm.com (OUTERMAI.CMD/2.1 by epc) id outermai.750 Received: from wposmtp.atlissc.ibm.com by remailer.atlissc.ibm.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0419; Thu, 01 Feb 96 14:54:52 -0800 Received: from ISSC-Message_Server by wposmtp.atlissc.ibm.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Feb 1996 14:54:42 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 14:38:15 -0500 From: "LK Swift" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Relatively inexpensive Pentium/PCI Mboard? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am expecting to come into a few hundred $ (very few) and wonder if you folks have a recommendation for a relatively inexpensive Mboard? I would prefer a PCI/Pentium combination. I have seen the praise that the ASUS boards have received on this list, but I'm assuming they are pricey... Oh yes, need I say that it must run FreeBSD 2.1R? -LKS P.S. Thanx for everything guys! If I couldn't count on this list, I don't know what I'd do... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 12:11:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA24621 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA24615 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA06092; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:10:44 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:10:44 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Ola Persson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mcast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Ola Persson wrote: > Where can I find docs and faqs on how to install mcast ? > > I try to run sd now but is says IO_MULTICAST_LOOP: Invalid argument I think you have to reconfigure kernel, add multicast. Look the LINT configuration. I have done it, I have sd working OK, nv , wb vat also. You can get sd, vat, wb and nv from rah.star-gate.com. I have SB16 and the vat-and-half vas only vat working on my PC. Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 12:31:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA26845 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26838 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:31:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA03516; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:30:59 -0800 (PST) To: Dave Glowacki cc: Michael Smith , chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Willows In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:39:22 CST." <199602011439.IAA06011@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 12:30:59 -0800 Message-ID: <3514.823206659@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > It's there now. > > I registered, got instructions on FTP access, logged into ftp.willows.com > and grabbed twin-src-1.5.0.tgz (dated Feb 1. 3:10) Me too. I think it's time to form a small discussion group with the source-licensees so that we can coordinate effort? I've been talking with Larry Wagner at Willows (just got off the phone with him again) about the larger issues of redistribution and such, and there are still some hoops to jump through on that front - we'll see how it goes. The first step, however, is to get the software working and communicate the changes back to Willows. For that, we need people who've sent in their software license form (in all the *BSD camps) to talk to one another about whatever piece of the puzzle they're working on. So, anyone besides Dave and myself so far? Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 12:35:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27273 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27268 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA06133; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:34:44 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:34:44 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Terry Lambert cc: terry@lambert.org, ahill@interconnect.com.au, pbanks@candle.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS In-Reply-To: <199602011750.KAA13328@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I am using netboot in a lab. It works. > > > > Maybe dosboot (waht is fbsdboot?) is faster to boot. How could I test it? > > Is there instructions somewhere? > > /sys/i386/boot/dosboot/readme. > > 8-). > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org I know :-) it is after this paragraph. Terry, I am 100% sure you do not want I try it after rereading it. It is some time I read it first time and understood very little and ... some base level questions: how to define root partition, swap, /etc, must I have FreeBSD partition ... OK maybe the idea of this is to boot FreeBSD from dos and have a FreeBSD partition ready to mount? Yes so it must be. I tryet to use it as netboot having NFS root etc. Everything is so opvious to you experts that you do not see how little you tell what is the purpose of your tools. Seppo ------------ 10:24pm@beeblebrox:~% more /sys/i386/boot/dosboot/readme Hi Everybody! This is version 1.5 of "fbsdboot", a program that allows you to boot a kernel from a MS-DOS partition or a FreeBSD partition. This program runs using DOS. It works with various memory managers (like EMM386, 386MAX) under certain circumstances. First, a FreeBSD kernel is always loaded to memory starting at 0x100000. To assure that loading the kernel *does not* overwrite memory used by memory managers, high memory for the kernel is allocated and after loading the kernel it's moved to 0x100000. Second, there are many ways to switch to protected mode which is necessary to start the kernel. Each BIOS gives you the possibility to use INT15H (AH=89H) to do that. But some memory-managers like 386max does not allow you to use this method. An other way to do the switch is to use DPMI services, but they do not guarantee, that the protected mode application is executed with privilege level 0. Therefore this method is *not* used. VCPI services offer another way to switch to protect to switch to protected mode , and VCPI servers are built into "emm386.exe", "386max" and "qemm". That's why, this method is implemented in fbsdboot.exe. Fbsdboot.exe tries to switch to protected mode using VCPI services. If they're not available INT15H is used to do the switch. If that fails, it's not possible for this version of fbsdboot.exe to boot a kernel :-(. You can get commandline options of fbsdboot if you start it with "-?" as option! I don't know, if fbsdboot works with QEMM, as I don't have the possibility to test it. Enjoy and have fun! Christian. cg@fimp01.fim.uni-linz.ac.at PS: Many thanks to Bruce Evans for his assistance! or his assistance! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 12:59:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA29060 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29052 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA13645; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:54:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602012054.NAA13645@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Run BSD under DOS To: kallio@beeblebrox.pccc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:54:40 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, ahill@interconnect.com.au, pbanks@candle.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Feb 1, 96 10:34:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I know :-) it is after this paragraph. > Terry, I am 100% sure you do not want I try it after rereading it. > It is some time I read it first time and understood very little and ... > some base level questions: how to define root partition, swap, /etc, must > I have FreeBSD partition ... OK maybe the idea of this is to boot FreeBSD > from dos and have a FreeBSD partition ready to mount? Yes so it must be. > I tryet to use it as netboot having NFS root etc. Yes. You must have a partition set up. The difference is that instead of using a boot manager, you boot to DOS and run the program to "reboot" from a running DOS into FreeBSD. > Everything is so opvious to you experts that you do not see how little > you tell what is the purpose of your tools. That one isn't my tool, actually. For the tools that I did, I provided sample usage and sample code (ie: I made one of each allowable type of LKM when I wrote the LKM system, and supplied a large rationale document, on the order of a Usenix paper's worth of information). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 13:06:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29704 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29692 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:06:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA13683; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:02:45 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602012102.OAA13683@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and commercial s/w To: dphillip@tabfs.com (Dale Phillips) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:02:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9601311626.aa13490@svr.tabfs.com> from "Dale Phillips" at Jan 31, 96 04:26:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If I were to buy a piece of commercial s/w for word processing... > > What version of unix should I buy it for? In order from best to worst: FreeBSD 8-) NetBSD BSDI Linux IBCS2 (SCO UNIX, SVR3) Mac (Executor Mac under Linux ABI) DOS (text mode only under PCEMU) Windows (Willows looks promising but it's not here yet!) Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 13:10:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29912 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29907 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA13695; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:06:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602012106.OAA13695@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: MAIL To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:06:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: pranas@perkunas.omnitel.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 31, 96 10:27:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Darius Ramanauskas wrote: > > Didn't someone answer this already? (Terry?) Someone did, but not me. Mailers are evil. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 13:11:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29931 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29926 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA21098; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:13:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:13:24 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602012113.OAA21098@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Brian Handy Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: silo overflow In-Reply-To: References: <199602011827.LAA20509@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Can someone tell me what this line out of my syslog means? > > > > > > Jan 27 15:04:24 condor /kernel: sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 2) > > > Jan 27 15:04:32 condor /kernel: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 3) > > > > It means the hardware couldn't keep up with the serial load. I started > > seeing that recently on my -stable box at home after I upgraded the > > kernel, and I *never* saw it before. I'm not sure why, but it might be > > related to the SPL changes Peter/Bruce made. (Just guessing). > > > > It's mostly harmless, but annoying since the only load I have is *ONE* > > SLIP connection running at 115K on a 486/66 which is mostly unloaded > > when I get these messages. > > Heh...hmmm. Allow me to take this a step further. You're saying my > serial mouse is overloading the system? :-) Uhh, yep. Why, I don't know, see above. Bruce would be the one to answer why a mouse could overload the system. Did you update the kernel recently to cause this to happen? Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 13:14:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA00213 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00208 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:14:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA24937 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:14:11 -0800 Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01435; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:07:47 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:07:47 -0700 (MST) From: Brian Handy To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: silo overflow In-Reply-To: <199602011827.LAA20509@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > Can someone tell me what this line out of my syslog means? > > > > Jan 27 15:04:24 condor /kernel: sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 2) > > Jan 27 15:04:32 condor /kernel: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 3) > > It means the hardware couldn't keep up with the serial load. I started > seeing that recently on my -stable box at home after I upgraded the > kernel, and I *never* saw it before. I'm not sure why, but it might be > related to the SPL changes Peter/Bruce made. (Just guessing). > > It's mostly harmless, but annoying since the only load I have is *ONE* > SLIP connection running at 115K on a 486/66 which is mostly unloaded > when I get these messages. Heh...hmmm. Allow me to take this a step further. You're saying my serial mouse is overloading the system? :-) Curiouser and curiouser, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 13:18:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA00610 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sara.cpb.org (sara.cpb.org [198.187.60.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00605 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by sara.cpb.org; (5.65/1.1.8.2/04May95-0341PM) id AA29617; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:18:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:17:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Neil T. Mathison" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Configuration review Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am attempting to put together a system to function as a workstation, primarily for application development running FreeBSD. What follows is a list of components and their prices obtained from various sources. The monitor, keyboard, etc, I will lift from my old system for the time being. I need to keep the cost around 2000 dollars. Based on info from previous discussions here, and comparing prices from various sources, I think the system will be problem free and a fairly good price to performance ratio. If I am wrong about this; if anything is obviously amiss (or even not so obvious) with the selections below (e.g. won't work with FreeBSD, cost out of line, product x would work more reliably than your selection for about the same cost, etc.) I would appreciate a shout. Regards, Neil Mathison -- mathison@sara.cpb.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Basic System ASUS PCI/I-P55TP4XE MB (Intel Triton chipset) 4 32-bit PCI and 3 16-bit ISA slots 72-pin SIMM sockets SMC Super I/O Controller (2-floppies, 2 16650 UARTS, 1 PP) 1.44 MB floppy Drive Desktop case + 230W PS P130 $749 Memory 4x32 72 pin 60ns (16 Mb) $439 SCSI Controller ASUS SC200 SCSI-II controller $ 76 CD ROM Panasonic 4x SCSI-II $179 Hard Drive 1.08 GIG Conner SCSI-II (CFP1080S) $329 Video Card #9 FX Motion 771 (S3 Vision 868) 2Mb $309 OS FreeBSD 2.1 $ 40 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 13:50:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03060 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-img-5.compuserve.com (dub-img-5.compuserve.com [198.4.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03008 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by dub-img-5.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id QAA12299; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:48:50 -0500 Date: 01 Feb 96 16:44:15 EST From: Adrian Neville <101603.1662@compuserve.com> To: freebsd-questions Subject: Mach64 XF86Config file Message-ID: <960201214414_101603.1662_JHP40-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm sorry to have to ask a third question but this ATI Mach64 card is giving me no end of problem. I have a ATI Pro Turbo Mach64 graphics card ( 1mb ) and a svga monitor (hsync 31-50 vsync 50-90mhz) but I don't seem tobe able to get a decent X11 config using FreeBSD 2.05 and Xfree 3.1.1 I read in the freebsd mail archives that using the XF_Mach64 dirver was a problem so i have tried the XF_SVGA, the only problem is that the best screen resoulution i have got is 320x200 (ugly eh?). Things get a bit better using the FX_VGA16 but not much. Is anyone using the above card? Do you have a XF86Config you could mail me. Thanks Adrian. e-mail 101603,1662 PS Thanks to those who helped with the sio problem. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 13:52:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03367 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dartvax.dartmouth.edu (dartvax.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03248 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from hanover.VALLEY.NET (hanover.valley.net [198.115.160.10]) by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (8.7.3+DND/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08795 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:51:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602012151.QAA08795@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Received: by hanover.VALLEY.NET (blitz.valley.net) via SMTP from v1-p-23.valley.net id <584986> 01 Feb 96 16:51:24 EST Date: Thu, 01 Feb 96 16:53:22 -0800 From: "Adam.Strohl." X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Internet Setup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hey! So far you guys have been great, and I want to thank you for helping me get up and running with FreeBSD. Its REALLY Cool. Anyway, I do have a question .... How do I set up my machine to use a dialup ISP. I am not using a gateway, this is just my home machine. I can use the ppp program to dialup, but when I go to a program like FTP, etc, it doesn't recognize that it has to rout all request throigh the ppp. I have experiece on how to set this up on windoze machines, and have all my ISP network info (DNS, IP, etc) I just dont know how to set these. Thanx in advance, and keep up the good work !!! -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 13:57:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03870 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03862 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA21201; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:59:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:59:07 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602012159.OAA21201@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommendation for a flatbed scanner ? In-Reply-To: <199602011939.UAA13360@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> References: <199602011939.UAA13360@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I am looking for a flatbed scanner (possibly a color model) which > works decently under FreeBSD (I'd say 2.1). The *only* scanners which work under FreeBSD at this time are the HP scanners. I've got an HP 3C working, and J'org had an older model working at his site. I'm pretty sure it should also work with the HP 4C as well. > I would like to hear about positive or negative experiences, also with > reference to the use of the scanner on the same SCSI bus as the HD or > other peripherals. It's on the same bus as my HD, but you *must* make sure to get good SCSI cables or you'll have problems. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 14:28:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA06238 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.transport.com (bmk@transport.com [204.119.17.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA06101 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmk@localhost) by mail.transport.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id OAA00443; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:29:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199602012229.OAA00443@mail.transport.com> Subject: Re: Relatively inexpensive Pentium/PCI Mboard? To: swift@VNET.IBM.COM (LK Swift) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:29:17 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "LK Swift" at Feb 1, 96 02:38:15 pm From: bmk@dtr.com Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I am expecting to come into a few hundred $ (very few) and wonder if you Tax refund, eh? :) > folks have a recommendation for a relatively inexpensive Mboard? I would > prefer a PCI/Pentium combination. I have seen the praise that the ASUS > boards have received on this list, but I'm assuming they are pricey... Not too bad, actually. Count on around $50.00 more than the cheap junk most manufacturers are putting out. The CPU is what's gonna cost you. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 14:51:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA07818 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07813 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA14011; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:45:45 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602012245.PAA14011@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Willows To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:45:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3514.823206659@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Feb 1, 96 12:30:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > For that, we > need people who've sent in their software license form (in all the > *BSD camps) to talk to one another about whatever piece of the puzzle > they're working on. > > So, anyone besides Dave and myself so far? Me, of course. Maybe there should be a seperate mailing list? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 15:19:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA09729 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09703 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id KAA05464 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:18:44 +1100 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:18:43 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: francis yeung cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loss of print data during ftp In-Reply-To: <199601312036.UAA17754@fyeung5.netific.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, francis yeung wrote: > > Every time when LPD is busy printing and a ftp session is busy > downloading a big file, my printer stops and my printout is all > messed up. The same thing happens when I do WWW browsing while > the printer is printing. I guess this could be attributed to an IRQ conflict. You will need to check which comm port you are using for the modem, what IRQ it is using, and what IRQ your printer port is using. It is common for com1 to be on irq 4, and com2 on IRQ 3, and your printer port to be on either IRQ 5, or IRQ 7. Make sure there is no conflict - if there is, you will either have to change something around, or use the printer in polled mode. (does not use an IRQ). To use the printer in polled mode, check the printing section in the handbook. Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 16:47:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA16054 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA16039 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03983 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:52:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:52:18 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199602020052.RAA03983@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Compatability question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody know if the RISCom/N2s routing card is compatable with FreeBBSD? Thanks Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 16:58:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17025 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:58:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17015 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from quads.uchicago.edu (root@quads.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.63]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA11133 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:53:32 -0600 Received: from quads.uchicago.edu (spfarrel@localhost.uchicago.edu [127.0.0.1]) by quads.uchicago.edu (8.7.1/8.7.2) with ESMTP id SAA15508 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:57:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602020057.SAA15508@quads.uchicago.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: new freebsder -> tiny disk, etc etc... Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 18:57:44 CST From: "steve farrell " Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk i'm a new freebsder but not a new unixer. i have an old sparc i'm using now, but don't want to pay for a fast sbus serial card, so i'm tyring to run freebsd on an old 386 w/high speed serial port. i've got 4mb ram, amd 386-40, and a 40mb st-251 in the would-be freebsd box. my plan is put the root filesystem on the 40 (20mb parition, 20 mb swap), and get the rest through nfs. i have the sparc botting some sun3's via nfs so i'm fairly confident about getting that end working. first problem is - how do i tell the install program i only want to install the root stuff on the disk, and get /usr via nfs? second problem is - i don't know if my ehternet card is working? should it respond to a ping when the kernel is loaded (boot.flp)? anyway, i'm still trying to track this one down in dos... another thought i had was to use netboot.com, and do eveyrthing via nfs. i actually am prety fond of this idea, since i wouldn't have to listen to that old noisy disk -- but i have no idea where to get netboot.com, which i assume to be a dos program.... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:01:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA17301 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-f.it.earthlink.net [206.85.92.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17279 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from STEPHENT (stevt.earthlink.net [206.85.81.224]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA06440; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:01:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:01:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199602020101.RAA06440@iceland.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: stevt@earthlink.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Steve Tan Subject: newbie : How write to DOS Floppy ? Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm trying to figure out how to write files to a DOS disk, my floppy drive. I didn't see any info in the FAQ's or installation guides. I believe I need to mount /dev/fd0 or /dev/rmt0 , but I can't find the specific command to use. I'm using BSD to develop CGI perl scripts and need to transfer them to a PC running Win95. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:04:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA17631 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17624 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA25570; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:46:01 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602020116.LAA25570@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Install/Configuration questions To: fenwick@hposl03.cup.hp.com (John Fenwick) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:46:00 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, fenwick@hposl03.cup.hp.com In-Reply-To: <9602011710.AA06525@hposl03.cup.hp.com> from "John Fenwick" at Feb 1, 96 09:10:07 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk John Fenwick stands accused of saying: > I am trying to understand the operation of the FreeBSD boot managers > to solve some install difficulties. The install target is a SCSI disk PC. > Perhaps you can shed some light on these questions. > > * Is the boot manager - either booteasy or osbs - typically installed > in the first 60-odd sectors of a boot disk, and if so is it installed > on top of what existing DOS boot manager may have already been there? The boot manager lives in the first sector of the disk, beside the MBR. I _think_ that os-bs may occupy some space in the following (unused) sectors of the first cylinder. > * Using one particular install configuration results in only the first > 17 sectors of the disk being used to install the boot manager. > What has been installed in this case, and why is it different > from the 62 or 63 sectors noted above? I don't follow this. I can only guess that something is writing the whole first cylinder, as it sees it. > * If I overwrite my current Win95-installed boot manager by installing > one from BSD, would I be able to recover the original Win95-installed > boot manager by running the DOS "fdisk /mbr" command? Win95 doesn't have a boot manger. You should be able to remove either Booteasy or os-bs with 'fdisk /mbr', yes. > * Are the install tools for boot managers available under UNIX, > or are they only available under the DOS tools on the CDROM? > If I wanted to migrate my BSD installation to a different disk, > would I be able to copy the boot sectors also? Would "dd" be able > to do the copy in this case? Migration to a new disk is always best performed by backing up, reinstalling to the new disk, and restoring from your backup. > * Can you recommend some documentation that would describe where such > things as the locations and sizes of partition tables, disk labels, > and boot managers, are typically found on boot disks? The traditional answer here is "read the source". I'm sure other people have suggestions for DOS-oriented references. > - John Fenwick -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:09:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA18144 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA18106 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA29295; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:08:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:08:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Terry Lambert cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Willows In-Reply-To: <199602012245.PAA14011@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > For that, we > > need people who've sent in their software license form (in all the > > *BSD camps) to talk to one another about whatever piece of the puzzle > > they're working on. > > > > So, anyone besides Dave and myself so far? > > Me, of course. > > Maybe there should be a seperate mailing list? ya nearly got me there, terry. a mailing list for 3 soon to 5 people, yuck, yuck, yuck. how about using chat till the list grows? seriously....chat is very low volume. Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:13:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA18596 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA18591 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA14306; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:11:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602020111.SAA14306@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Willows To: jmb@FreeBSD.org (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:10:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Feb 1, 96 08:08:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > For that, we > > > need people who've sent in their software license form (in all the > > > *BSD camps) to talk to one another about whatever piece of the puzzle > > > they're working on. > > > > > > So, anyone besides Dave and myself so far? > > > > Me, of course. > > > > Maybe there should be a seperate mailing list? > > ya nearly got me there, terry. a mailing list for 3 soon to 5 > people, yuck, yuck, yuck. > > how about using chat till the list grows? seriously....chat is > very low volume. Or big CC lines, like this one... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:16:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA18975 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tanelorn.netural.com (tanelorn.NETural.com [206.54.248.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA18970 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thekind@localhost) by tanelorn.netural.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00625; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 19:15:37 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 19:15:37 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam W. Dace" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: procmail/Smartlist + sendmail 8.7.3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I was just wondering if anyone out there has encountered problems with sendmail-8.7.3 + Smartlist 3.11pre3 (distributed with R2.1). procmail seems to be quite happy with sendmail 8.7.3, but unfortunately SmartList doesn't like it much -at all-, i.e. won't run. I'll be subscribing myself to the SmartList mailing list shortly... | Adam W. Dace | NETural Communications, Inc. | | Webmaster | Paying too much for your Net access? | | http://www.NETural.com/ | NETural Voice: (312) 819-2231 | From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:22:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19570 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19547 Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:22:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA25688; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:06:20 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602020136.MAA25688@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Willows To: brians@mandor.dev.com (Brian Smith) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:06:19 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU, chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu, hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602011702.JAA24365@mandor.dev.com> from "Brian Smith" at Feb 1, 96 09:02:15 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Brian Smith stands accused of saying: > > > >User-LDT access is already available; we have dlopen & friends, anyone > >care to comment about what happens when a process generates an interrupt? > > The User-LDT even in current is broken in a couple of ways. It was imported > from NetBSD a while back, so I just ftp'ed NetBSD kernel src last night to > determine what needs to be changed. Your first problem will be that it > doesn't allocate enough space for the full 8192 possible LDT entries. > > I'll email a partial patch to those who need more than 512 LDT entries > right now, but, there are still some problems with my current patch, such > as leaking memory at process exit. Definitely. You're nominated as the LDT expert for the Willows port. Congratulations! 8) > Brian -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:36:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA20814 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from goodguy.goodnet.com (root@goodnet.com [205.164.206.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA20804 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:36:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from phx-ts4-12.goodnet.com (phx-ts4-12.goodnet.com [206.43.126.141]) by goodguy.goodnet.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA22641 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:32:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199602020132.SAA22641@goodguy.goodnet.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 96 02:57:33 -0800 From: tOM bLACKWELL X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: freeBSD for DEC PDP-11 or VAX systems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk sir: Is there a distribution for the DEC PDP-11 or VAX so that I can get all the computers in my house to speak to each other effectively and quickly? What is the difference between freeBSD and netBSD? I have freeBSD (2-CD set), where can I download netBSD from? Thanks hendrix@goodnet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:42:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA21270 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21260 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA01259; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:39:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:39:11 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gianluca Dini cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 In-Reply-To: <199601311653.RAA06468@dini.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Gianluca Dini wrote: > i run FreeBSD 2.0 and i would like to install xfig-3.1. unfortunately, > the current packages distribution addresses FreeBSD-2.0.5 or higher. > can someone give me a suggestion? if possible, i would like > to avoid to install any new release. I would *really* recommend upgrading. There are some bugs in 2.0 that are fixed in 2.0.5, and now 2.1 is out. You can't pull the package, but you could pull the port off ok, if that existed. Or pull the source and recompile it for yourself. Mainly, the executable format changed slightly between 2.0 and 2.0.5 (there is a compat2x library). You have to recompile them. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 17:58:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA21971 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21965 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA29283; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:57:03 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199602011757.RAA29283@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: Re: anyone familar with mail bounces interpretation? To: shovey@buffnet.net (steve hovey) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:57:02 +0000 () Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "steve hovey" at Feb 1, 96 01:35:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Greetings, I have seen this "local configuration error" before. Allow me to ask this - usually what does it mean ? What will be the most likely problems ? sendmail.cf ? Thanks. Francis > > > On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > > 554 ... Local configuration error > > > > (I sent to support and root). > > > > Does it mean 'local configuration error' at my site or theirs? > > > Theirs > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 18:42:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23974 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from glucose.btsslc.com (glucose.btsslc.com [192.40.29.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23965 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:42:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199602020242.SAA23965@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by glucose.btsslc.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA28707; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 19:49:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 19:49:31 -0700 From: Wes Peters To: Angel Ortiz Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where Can I find a X debugger for g++ In-Reply-To: <59466620@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Angel Ortiz writes: > Questions: > > I have your FreeBSD version 2.1 product. I have developed some C++ > programs and would like to know where can I find a X version of gdb. There's two ways to go on this: First, you can locate and build xxgdb, which is an X11 interface to gdb. I've never used it much, but I know a few others who are addicted to the Borland IDE mentaility and find it useful. You can also run GDB from inside Emacs -- the UNIX IDE mentality. If you're already an Emacs user, or have been considering it, this is a good time to learn. > Also, can you tell me if it would be worth my time and efforts to upgrade > to a more recent release of gcc/g++, what are there names and where can I > find them? GCC 2.7.2 and libg++ 2.7.1 are available, but unless you need one of the new features, I can't recommend changing right now. The major difference between 2.6, which FreeBSD 2.1 comes with, and 2.7 is support for exceptions, which is still pretty experimental. There were some fixes made for code optimization in the FreeBSD version of 2.6 that have not yet been folded back into the main GCC development path, so sticking with the system-supplied compiler will give you the most reliable code right now. -- I'd rather be sailing. Wes Peters BTS SLC wes@btsslc.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 18:45:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA24251 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA24238 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id VAA22544 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:47:27 -0500 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199602020247.VAA22544@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Here are a couple of good ones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:47:26 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk WEll I have some good ones this time: - My ISP just "upgraded" their terminal server software and my ijppp client now does not work... 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] LCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] LCP: LayerUp 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] Phase: Authenticate 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] his = c023, mine = c023 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] PAP: ebm (branson) 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] PapInput: REQUEST 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] PapOutput: NAK 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] LCP: LayerDown 01-31 19:25:09 [1885] Phase: Terminate they said that there were some "timing" problems with some of the Macs that were being used. After verbally abusing them for comparing FreeBSD to a Mac.. I was told that the problem would have to be solved on my end. *sigh* So had anyone else heard of this particular problem? - At my new job I got an Hp Vectra system that I am going to configure tomorrow. It has a PCI bus and some built in adaptors.. like the video and the ethernet.. I am taking an extra ethernet card to work since I did not see any mention of HP boards in the FAQ. Is this board supported? How can I get any more information on it. ( No I did not find a name for the board.. I can however get chipset information from under the cover if it will help. ) The same for the video board although I am going to use SuperProbe on it tomorrow. -branson -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | ebm@visi.net Ferguson SysAdmin | http://visi.net/~ebm From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 18:51:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA24549 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonkers (pm8_11.digital.net [198.69.104.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA24544 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kcw@localhost) by bonkers (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA00118 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:44:56 -0500 From: Ken Whedbee Message-Id: <199602020244.VAA00118@bonkers> Subject: 2.1 install won't recognize 2.0 Freebsd drive To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:44:55 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: whedbee@ddi.digital.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi - I got a SCSI disk (ST31200N) which is dedicated completely to FreeBSD2.0. I tried running the Novice Install on the boot floppy for 2.1, and it only recognizes my other 325meg drive with DOS on it. I'd like to install 2.1 on the SCSI disk. The boot floppy saw my SCSI drive during the boot probe. Any ideas ? -- Ken Whedbee whedbee@ddi.digital.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 18:56:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA25043 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from glucose.btsslc.com (glucose.btsslc.com [192.40.29.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA25038 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:56:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199602020256.SAA25038@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by glucose.btsslc.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA28711; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:03:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:03:06 -0700 From: Wes Peters To: Steve Khoo Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is there a port of GNU ld for FreeBSD 2.1R? In-Reply-To: <8284400@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Steve Khoo writes: > Is there a port of GNU ld for FreeBSD 2.1R? > > binutil 2.6 doesn't seems to indicate that. No. The /bin/ld shipped with FreeBSD is a severely hacked version of an ancient, apocryphal GNU ld. I've recently been invited to bring GNU ld up to current FreeBSD spec, but that's not really my cup of tea. ;^) Fortunately, the standard one seems to work pretty well. If you're attempting to use GCC 2.7.x, you *will* need to update gas, but you can still use the standard ld. -- I'd rather be sailing. Wes Peters BTS SLC wes@btsslc.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 19:51:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA29089 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 19:51:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from aries.ai.net (ai.net [205.252.67.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29084 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 19:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id WAA01661; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:52:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:52:40 -0500 (EST) From: Network Coordinator To: havlicek@infinet.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Whoah. I know people who would pay money for what you must be smoking. Sam My views are not those of my employer. On Thu, 1 Feb 1996 havlicek@infinet.com wrote: > I have been thinking about running BSD for a couple of years. > > I use linux. Are the BSD guys still a bunch of assholes? > > They were a bunch of pricks the last time I considered switching. > > > If the assholes have been washed out of the system I might consider it. > > BSD is not impressive because it promotes asshole comments to new users. > > I think if yu want anybody to to use BSD you need to straighten up your act. > > -MIKE > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 20:53:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA09761 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from Access.Mountain.Net (jzimba@Access.Mountain.Net [198.77.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09744 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jzimba@localhost) by Access.Mountain.Net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA02677 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:51:09 -0500 From: Joel Zimba Message-Id: <199602020451.XAA02677@Access.Mountain.Net> Subject: freebsd-2.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:51:08 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk is 2.0 anywhere to be found? or am I condemned to using 2.1? thanks Joel From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:08:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA11842 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:08:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11768 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01475; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:02:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:02:54 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Fenwick cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Install/Configuration questions In-Reply-To: <9602011710.AA06525@hposl03.cup.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, John Fenwick wrote: > * Is the boot manager - either booteasy or osbs - typically installed > in the first 60-odd sectors of a boot disk, and if so is it installed > on top of what existing DOS boot manager may have already been there? Yes and yes. Booteasy or osbs are loaded into the MBR over what is currently there. This is not good if you need an eide translator, but since you are on SCSI that should not be a problem. > * Using one particular install configuration results in only the first > 17 sectors of the disk being used to install the boot manager. > What has been installed in this case, and why is it different > from the 62 or 63 sectors noted above? The MBR is a specific section of the disk set aside for that purpose. The size of what's on it isn't exactly relevant, IMHO. > * If I overwrite my current Win95-installed boot manager by installing > one from BSD, would I be able to recover the original Win95-installed > boot manager by running the DOS "fdisk /mbr" command? Yes, at least the DOS mbr :) I don't have win95 so I couldn't say. Terry? > * Are the install tools for boot managers available under UNIX, > or are they only available under the DOS tools on the CDROM? Ooh. I think they're all DOS tools, but it shouldn't be difficult to make up a quickie DOS disk and keep it laying around, considering we're still blessed with it's presence :) (Somebody check me on that) > If I wanted to migrate my BSD installation to a different disk, > would I be able to copy the boot sectors also? Would "dd" be able > to do the copy in this case? Don't know enough about dd to say. I wouldn't put stock in it, but installing new bootmanagers is so easy, I don't think it'd be worthwhile. > * Can you recommend some documentation that would describe where such > things as the locations and sizes of partition tables, disk labels, > and boot managers, are typically found on boot disks? Some DOS disk technical specs would be a good place to start. Or some DOS hardware programming books. > Much thanks for any pointers. Hope this helps. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:12:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12411 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.bigsky.net (cygnus.BigSky.Net [205.138.104.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12346 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by cygnus.bigsky.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA15157 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:12:38 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:12:38 GMT From: Paul Marsh Message-Id: <199602012212.WAA15157@cygnus.bigsky.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: TACACS_PLUS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone successfully compiled Cisco's TACACS+ under FreeBSD? Thanks, -Paul Marsh- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:13:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12687 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12634 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01488; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:10:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Adam.Strohl." cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Internet Setup In-Reply-To: <199602012151.QAA08795@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Adam.Strohl. wrote: > Hey! So far you guys have been great, and I want to thank you for helping me > get up > and running with FreeBSD. Its REALLY Cool. Anyway, I do have a question .... :) > How do I set up my machine to use a dialup ISP. I am not using a gateway, this > is > just my home machine. I can use the ppp program to dialup, but when I go to a > program like FTP, etc, it doesn't recognize that it has to rout all request > throigh > the ppp. I have experiece on how to set this up on windoze machines, and have > all > my ISP network info (DNS, IP, etc) I just dont know how to set these. Thanx in > advance, and keep up the good work !!! You need to manipulate your routing tables so that your computer knows to send the packets through the ppp line (tun0 interface). 1. su to root 2. netstat -rn to list current routes 3. delete any routes with destination "default" (iijppp shoud do this for you) 4. "route add default " where is the remote machine. Set your ISP's DNS in /etc/resolv.conf as "nameserver 123.123.123.123". Other than that, iijppp is pretty automatic. If this doesn't help let me know and I'll try to illustrate. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:16:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13183 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13093 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:16:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01495; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:12:55 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:12:55 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: jasonb@gcm.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Locking while probing the ISA bus for devices In-Reply-To: <199602011827.NAA19336@gcm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996 jasonb@gcm.com wrote: > I have been trying to boot with freeBSD ver 2.1.0. > > When the bootstrap sequence probes the bus for devices, it > never comes back. Where does it lock up, exactly? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:21:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14137 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14107 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01512; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:18:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:18:28 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ola Persson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mcast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Ola Persson wrote: > Where can I find docs and faqs on how to install mcast ? > I try to run sd now but is says IO_MULTICAST_LOOP: Invalid argument Mcast is installed in the kernel by default. What kind of Ethernet card do you have? Some Ethernet cards don't support it. Do you have a route in /etc/sysconfig? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:23:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14502 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.bigsky.net (cygnus.BigSky.Net [205.138.104.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14479 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by cygnus.bigsky.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA15182 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:24:25 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:24:25 GMT From: Paul Marsh Message-Id: <199602012224.WAA15182@cygnus.bigsky.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: TACACS - Oops Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I was looking for someone familiar with TACACS+ on FreeBSD. The problems I'm encountering are with `setpwent` in the routine "pw.c" having a previous declaration, in /usr/include/pwd.h, of course. I can get around that by commenting out that section of code. This leaves me with an Undefined symbol `_crypt` in "do_authen.c". Thanks again. -Paul- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:36:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA17588 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA17542 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:35:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01536; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:32:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:32:56 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Goetz Fischer , Cheryl Baxendale cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: psm0 not found at 0x60 In-Reply-To: <9602011108.AA02771@itrsp2.fb10.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Goetz Fischer wrote: > Hi, > I have a Gigabyte Board GA586ATE with PS/2-port on it. > After building a new kernel with psm0 support and/or-not no_reset option > it doesn't find the mouseport. IRQ 12 isn't used by another device. > The mouse is a Microsoft Carrera PS/2 / seriell mouse and works fine in > OS/2 and DOS on the PS/2-Port. What to do?? (This is a group reply) The psm0 device is broken. If I remember correctly, you have to hack the psm device driver so it does not check the i/o port address. Check the questions archive for a definitive answer. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:49:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA20643 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20627 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01552; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:46:27 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:46:27 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Luis Verissimo cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcsh config.h file for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Luis Verissimo wrote: > Does anybody have the tcsh-6.06 config.h file for FreeBSD? > > What existing config.h file should I use to compile tcsh in FreeBSD 2.1 > Why not use the packae instead? Somebody went to all the work for you :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 21:58:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA21451 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21343 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01562; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:52:55 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:52:55 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Bplumeau@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Version 2.1 installation problem In-Reply-To: <960201140242_309353641@emout10.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996 Bplumeau@aol.com wrote: [...] > (myname.my.domain) not a valid password and then the system gets stuck at the > login password point and of course I did not enter a login and password > during config. How can i get around this password situation so I can re-enter > config. I am also concerned that I might have used a default setting during > system config that I might have needed to be more specific. Help. Login as "root", it won't require a password, if you didn't set one up. Then use the "adduser" program to make an account for yourself, then change root's password to something using "passwd". I am also > looking for a good reference book on FreeBSD. Please recommend one. I Hope to > talk to you soon, Bob. About the best thing we've got short of the 4.4 BSD Lite references is the Handbook. Anyone working on a new book for FreeBSD? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 22:54:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA26232 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26222 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA27219; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:37:50 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602020707.RAA27219@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Configuration review To: mathison@sara.cpb.org (Neil T. Mathison) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:37:49 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Neil T. Mathison" at Feb 1, 96 04:17:58 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Neil T. Mathison stands accused of saying: > > I am attempting to put together a system to function as a workstation, > primarily for application development running FreeBSD. What follows is Good choice of platform 8) > Hard Drive > 1.08 GIG Conner SCSI-II (CFP1080S) $329 I'd be inclined not to use this disk. Look and see what you can get from Quantum or Seagate (eg. the ST31230N), or even a Micropolis 4110 (if you can still get one). This is more personal bias than anything though; you've done your homework well. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 1 22:56:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA26473 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from argus.flash.net (root@argus.flash.net [206.149.25.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA26467 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 22:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by argus.flash.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01252 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:56:16 -0600 From: mailing list account Message-Id: <199602020656.AAA01252@argus.flash.net> Subject: Re: good NTP servers Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:46:16 -0600 (CST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As promised, I am passing this along to the list... I think that this will clear up many misconceptions on exactly what UTC is and how it is obtained (Including some of mine, and some of yours)... > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:47:21 -0700 > From: jlevine@time-A.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov (Judah Levine) > To: jbryant@argus.flash.net > Subject: The Definition of UTC > > Hi, > > > okay... I'm going to try to get the official word here... > > It seems illogical that NIST would be synched to USNO, it follows > > everything that I've heard that it is the other way around where > > USNO would synch to NIST. > > > I'm Cc:'ing this to someone who should be able to answer this > > question: > > > "Between NIST and USNO, who obtains synch from whom, and how"? > > This is actually a complicated business, and a one-sentence answer > won't explain all of the complexity. So, here goes ... > > There is an international agreement about time-keeping (and other > similar physical standards) which is called the Treaty of the Meter. > The US and almost all other countries are signatories. The international > standard of time is called UTC (with no subscripts). It is maintained > by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures (BIPM, in French), > which is located in Sevres, just outside of Paris. The BIPM computes > UTC using data from about 250+ cesium clocks and hydrogen masers located > in the laboratories of many of the signatory nations. (In the US, both > NIST and USNO contribute clock data for this computation.) The BIPM > computation is done once each month, and the results are available > about three weeks later. For example, the computation for October, 1995 > was published by the BIPM on 16 November. > > Since the computation of UTC is always after the fact, timing > laboratories (such as NIST or USNO) provide an extrapolated real-time > version of UTC for users, which is identified by the name of the laboratory. > Thus UTC(NIST) is a time-scale generated by NIST from its own clock data (an > ensemble of cesium clocks and hydrogen masers). The BIPM publishes > the offset between its official UTC and the UTC implementation of each > contributing laboratory. The publication is called "Circular T" and is > publicly available. UTC(NIST) is steered towards UTC each month using > these data so that the difference is as small as possible and the steering > is as smooth as possible. The maximum change in rate of UTC(NIST) from > month to month is +/- 2 ns/day. These steering corrections are intended to > be small enough so that all but the highest accuracy users will not be > affected by them. > > The steering corrections (and related information) are published by NIST > in advance in the NIST Time and Frequency Bulletin. The difference > between UTC and UTC(NIST) varies somewhat from month to month, but is > generally not larger than 20 ns. > > The procedures at the USNO differ in detail, but the concept is > the same -- UTC(USNO) is generated from their local ensemble of clocks and > is steered towards UTC as published by the BIPM using periodic adjustments. > > Thus in the short term, UTC(USNO) and UTC(NIST) are free-running > cesium/hydrogen ensembles which are steered towards the UTC published by > the BIPM once each month. The difference between the two is of the order > of nano-seconds, which is only significant for the highest-accuracy users. > > Although this is complicated enough, it is still not the whole story -- > There are two other inputs to the UTC computation. > > The International Earth Rotation Service (IERS), located at the Paris > Observatory, is responsible for deciding when a leap second is needed to > keep UTC as computed by the BIPM and as realized by the various timing > laboratories within +/- 0.9 s of UT1 -- a time-scale based on the rotation > of the earth. This decision is based on various world-wide astronomical > observations. The BIPM and all standards laboratories implement these leap > seconds as required -- about once a year and usually at the end of June or > December. The last one was at the end of December, 1995. > > The second input to UTC is from primary frequency standards (as > distinguished from the commerical cesium standards that provide the > day-to-day data for UTC and UTC(lab). There are only a few of these > in the world; the best ones are at NIST and at PTB, the German > equivalent of NIST located in Braunschweig, Germany. These standards > are designed to realize the highest-possible accuracy. Our current > standard is called NIST-7. It took almost 10 years to build and has > an absolute accuracy of about 1e-14. It, and its counterparts in > the PTB enter the UTC computation as periodic adjustments to the > length of the UTC second -- the rate in other words. The BIPM > incorporates these data by periodically adjusting the rate of UTC. > A typical adjustment is on the order of 1e-15 in frequency. Again, > these adjustments are intended to be small enough so that only > the highest-accuracy users need to be concerned with them. > > All timing laboratories use GPS signals to transfer time and > frequency information, but the method we use is called common view, > which means that we all look at a specific satellite at a specific > time and average the observations for 13 minutes (for technical > reasons). The tracking schedule (the list of which satellite to > observe when) is published by the BIPM periodically, and all > timing laboratories everywhere adhere to it as a minimum. This > method tends to cancel many of the errors due to the satelite > clock and some of the uncertainty due to the propagation of the > signals through the atmosphere. The average jitter on a common- > view measurement with 1 day of averaging is about +/- 2 ns. Note that > this is much better than can be obtained by observing GPS signals directly, > since the common-view method cancels out many of the fluctuations > in GPS time (both thost that are due to fluctuations in the clock and > the atmosphere and those that are intentionally applied by the > controllers). > > There were a number of other side-issues raised in the note that > you sent, but I think I have answered the primary question. If you > have more questions, please ask. > > Judah Levine > Time and Frequency Division > NIST Boulder > 1 February 1996 Jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" jbryant@argus.flash.net - FlashNet Communications - Ft. Worth, Texas From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:03:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00614 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00558 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA00435 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:58:04 -0800 Received: (from chuck@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA24984 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:14:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:14:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199602021514.KAA24984@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from: chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Virtual Memory Implementation Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was going through the tutorials that were presented at USENIX last month and found a paper (from the "An Introduction to UNIX Kernel Internals" tutorial) called "A New Virtual Memory Implementation for Berkeley UNIX". Is this the Virtual Memory Implementation for 4.4BSD and is it used in FreeBSD? And if not what are the differences? -- Charles Green, PRC Inc. UN*X System Administration 22 Powell Ave. Apt. B UN*X Security & Whitesboro, NY 13492 Programming From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:03:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00683 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00657 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from horst.bfd.com ([204.160.242.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA00328 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:52:06 -0800 Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00166 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:12:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:18:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel SCSI oops, and how to update system Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting the following messages several times a day. Jan 27 03:30:37 horst /kernel: ahc_scsi_cmd1: more than 256 DMA segs Jan 27 03:30:37 horst /kernel: sd0: oops not queued Jan 27 03:30:37 horst /kernel: biodone: buffer already done Jan 27 03:30:38 horst /kernel: ahc_scsi_cmd1: more than 256 DMA segs Jan 27 03:30:38 horst /kernel: sd0: oops not queued Jan 27 03:30:38 horst /kernel: biodone: buffer already done always in a pair like that. It usually causes something to core dump (usually, as in I can't always figure out what died). The hardware is a 486DX4/120 w/32 Meg ram AHA2842 SCSI controller set to defaults 2GB SCSI drive id'd as QUANTUM EMPIRE_2100S 100E Any clues? And if a newer kernel is the solution, how do I go about installing it? Minimal downtime is important, otherwise I'd just start over with 2.1-Release. This is a web/mail/ftp server. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:04:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00785 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwbone.bsi.com.br ([200.250.250.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00765 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lenzi ([200.247.248.100]) by cwbone.bsi.com.br (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14607; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:05:49 GMT Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:02:35 -0200 (EDT) From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@lenzi To: Cheryl Baxendale cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PS/2 Mouse help needed In-Reply-To: <199601311739.MAA25963@sable.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Cheryl Baxendale wrote: > When I type startx I get the mouse not configured error. When > configuring I typed /dev/psm0. I have a PS/2, 2 button Microsoft mouse. > If anyone can help me out please give specific intstructions on what I > need to do. Thanks! > > Cheryl > cbaxenda@vt.edu 1) Is your kernel configured to ps mouse?? see the LINT template... 2) if not, build your kernel with that support...and reboot. 3) don't forget to have the mouse attatched to the cpu before power on. OK???? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:04:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00856 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00838 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA02396; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:04:28 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:04:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: Nate Williams Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: silo overflow In-Reply-To: <199602012113.OAA21098@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk First I wrote: > > > > Can someone tell me what this line out of my syslog means? > > > > > > > > Jan 27 15:04:24 condor /kernel: sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 2) > > > > Jan 27 15:04:32 condor /kernel: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 3) And Nate Responds "serial port"...and I theorize about the mouse...and Nate wonders about my kernel config...AND... AND...the answer is at Christmastime I upgraded us to 2.1R. I stripped out all the goodies in the config that I don't need. The system has worked fine up until now, though. I suspect the kernel is OK. I think I've found what the problem was. Let's take a look at dmesg (below)....I bet I know what it's related to. I've got guys using netscape here and with 24 MB of RAM and 40 MB of swap and it's just not enough. Something jammed up when swap ran out. (I don't know what to make of the file system full stuff.) So anyway...it looks like this machine just ungracefully choked when it ran out of swap. I've satisfied my own curiousity, I'm just including this here as a datapoint for anyone else who might wonder what's up. Happy Trails, Brian ==================================================================== FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Dec 27 02:32:19 1995 handy@condor.physics.montana.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/CONDOR CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 25165824 (24576K bytes) avail memory = 22855680 (22320K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16450 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16450 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 234MB (479349 sectors), 723 cyls, 13 heads, 51 S/T, 512 B/S le0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 5 maddr 0xd0000 msize 65536 on isa le0: DE202 ethernet address 08:00:2b:3b:c6:a1 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pid 9250: netscape: uid 2995: exited on signal 10 sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 2) sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 3) sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 5) sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 6) sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 7) sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 9) sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 10) sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 12) pid 24342: gopher: uid 3830: exited on signal 11 uid 3830 on /: file system full uid 9958 on /usr: file system full pid 1857: gopher: uid 3830: exited on signal 11 condor % From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:06:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA01305 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01234 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id EAA06380 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 04:04:38 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA17045; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 13:00:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199602021200.NAA17045@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: newbie : How write to DOS Floppy ? To: stevt@digitalweb.com (Steve Tan) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 13:00:26 +0100 (MET) From: "Werner Griessl" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199602020101.RAA06440@iceland.it.earthlink.net> from "Steve Tan" at Feb 1, 96 05:01:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm > trying to figure out how to write files to a DOS disk, my > floppy drive. I didn't see any info in the FAQ's or > installation guides. > > I believe I need to mount /dev/fd0 or /dev/rmt0 , but I can't > find the specific command to use. > > I'm using BSD to develop CGI perl scripts and need to transfer > them to a PC running Win95. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Steve > > Use "mount -t msdos /dev/fd0a /mnt" to mount a dos-floppy. Do'nt forget to unmount the floppy before removing it with "umount /mnt" . You can also use the "mtools" from the ports or package-distribution. Look into the manpages for mread and mwrite ! Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:06:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA01179 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01160 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from masternet.it (root@masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id EAA06565 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 04:45:48 -0800 Received: from gmarco (ts1port8d.masternet.it [194.184.65.30]) by masternet.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA18258 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 13:30:30 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960202121400.006d4e44@masternet.it> X-Sender: gmarco@masternet.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 13:14:00 +0100 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: BAD file descriptor Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It has been happened twice ! Bad file descriptor ... my partition aren't recognized properly, root is said to not be properly dismounted ... Everything fails... I reinstall :-) It is strange but with the old configuration it was never happened (HD IBM 1gb). Now with this FUJITSU (1gb) it is happened as I said twice in a few hours... so I suppose it isn't a freebsd fault.. Install again is not a problem but I'd like to understand where is the problem :-) So if anyone has some hints .... Second problem : I use always the novice installation . I'd like to install a Binary + kernel sources only but with Xfree binary only ... is possible in a easy way ? Or I must install the number 3 options (201mb) only ? Thanks in advance to everybody Regards, __ __/// Gianmarco \XX/ +------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | +-------------------+ | | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | | Hello! ,,, | | | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | | (o o) | | | Fidonet : 2:332/113.0@fidonet.org | | ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | | | Amiganet: 39:102/507@amiganet.ftn | +-------------------+ | +------------------------------------+-----------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:12:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02680 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02650 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA08640; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:09:47 -0500 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199602021609.LAA08640@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: Relatively inexpensive Pentium/PCI Mboard? To: swift@VNET.IBM.COM (LK Swift) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:09:47 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "LK Swift" at Feb 1, 96 02:38:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there ppl, > > I am expecting to come into a few hundred $ (very few) and wonder if you > folks have a recommendation for a relatively inexpensive Mboard? I would > prefer a PCI/Pentium combination. I have seen the praise that the ASUS > boards have received on this list, but I'm assuming they are pricey... It's fast , reliable and NOT expensive Go for ( Pentium) ASUS P55PT4XEG - this one will go up to ~200 Mhz - I already have one with P166Mhz - runs very nice > > Oh yes, need I say that it must run FreeBSD 2.1R? You don't :) > -LKS > > P.S. Thanx for everything guys! If I couldn't count on this list, I don't > know what I'd do... > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:12:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02697 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02636 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA03529; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:01:57 +0100 Message-Id: <199602021401.PAA03529@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: new freebsder -> tiny disk, etc etc... To: spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu (steve farrell) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:01:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199602020057.SAA15508@quads.uchicago.edu> from "steve farrell" at Feb 1, 96 06:57:44 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > i'm a new freebsder but not a new unixer. i have an old sparc i'm > using now, but don't want to pay for a fast sbus serial card, so i'm > tyring to run freebsd on an old 386 w/high speed serial port. i've > got 4mb ram, amd 386-40, and a 40mb st-251 in the would-be freebsd ^^^ Add one 1MB more and you will be able to install. You may run under 4MB but installation only works from 5MB on. > box. > > my plan is put the root filesystem on the 40 (20mb parition, 20 mb swap), > and get the rest through nfs. i have the sparc botting some sun3's > via nfs so i'm fairly confident about getting that end working. > > first problem is - how do i tell the install program i only want to > install the root stuff on the disk, and get /usr via nfs? I suggest (after you solved the above installation hurd) you install a minimum system (though 20 MB is really tough) with /usr on / FS. Afterwards once you are up you may delete /usr. You may also run with less swap and add (via swapon) swap later to a file on a nfs FS. > > second problem is - i don't know if my ehternet card is working? > should it respond to a ping when the kernel is loaded (boot.flp)? > anyway, i'm still trying to track this one down in dos... > > another thought i had was to use netboot.com, and do eveyrthing via > nfs. i actually am prety fond of this idea, since i wouldn't have to > listen to that old noisy disk -- but i have no idea where to get > netboot.com, which i assume to be a dos program.... netboot.com is in the /sys/src/i386/boot/netboot/netboot.com It is built with the FreeBSD compiler. > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:12:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02736 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02709 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA03479; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:35:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199602021335.OAA03479@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: freebsd-2.0 To: jzimba@Access.Mountain.Net (Joel Zimba) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:35:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199602020451.XAA02677@Access.Mountain.Net> from "Joel Zimba" at Feb 1, 96 11:51:08 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > is 2.0 anywhere to be found? or am I condemned to using 2.1? No, you can escape to 2.0.5 :-) Why condemned? What is distracting you from using 2.1? > > thanks > > Joel > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:18:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA03686 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from tierzero.apana.org.au (tierzero.apana.org.au [203.0.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03649 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.adelaide.apana.org.au (labrador.apana.org.au [202.12.89.65]) by tierzero.apana.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA11016 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:21:10 +1030 Message-Id: <199602021251.XAA11016@tierzero.apana.org.au> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.05b) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:21:33 +930 From: Reg Braddock Reply-To: braddock@labrador.apana.org.au Subject: CMD640 ide controllers Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject says it all. Will IDE controllers with these chips work ok, or have I finally found a compelling reason to grab a scsi card? Reg. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:40:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA06707 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from asparagin.cenargen.embrapa.br (asparagin.cenargen.embrapa.br [200.17.10.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06698 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from valine by asparagin.cenargen.embrapa.br via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/920502.SGI.AUTO) for <@asparagin.cenargen.embrapa.br:questions@freebsd.org> id PAA29164; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:43:48 -0800 Received: from valine by valine via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id PAA02860; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:39:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199602022339.PAA02860@valine> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 96 15:39:42 -0800 From: "Jose Eduardo M. S. Brandao" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1IS (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: VideoBlaster Cards? X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I would like to know if the Creative Labs cards RT300 or SE1000 are running at FreeBSD platforms with NV software. If no, what other "low-price" cards can i buy? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 09:50:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA07623 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from asparagin.cenargen.embrapa.br (asparagin.cenargen.embrapa.br [200.17.10.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07613 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:50:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from asparagin by asparagin.cenargen.embrapa.br via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/920502.SGI.AUTO) for id PAA00088; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:53:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199602022353.PAA00088@asparagin.cenargen.embrapa.br> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 96 15:53:30 -0800 From: "Jose Eduardo M. S. Brandao" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1IS (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP19) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Video Capture Boards X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I would like to know if Creative Labs cards RT300 or SE100 are running over FreeBSD platforms with NV software. If no, what "low-price" video capture cards can i buy? I will test video conferencing with Resource reservations and i need your answer to buy it until tomorow (96/02/02) Thanks for your cooperation and sory my english. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jose Eduardo M. S. Brandao EMBRAPA / CENARGEN (Brasilia/DF - Brazil) -> eduardo@cenargen.embrapa.br EMBRAPA / SEDE (Brasilia/DF - Brazil) -> eduardo@sede.embrapa.br UFPB / COPIN (Campina Grande/PB - Brazil) -> eduardo@dsc.ufpb.br From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 10:02:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA08329 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08315 Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) id MAA01042; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:00:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:00:50 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: SB16 & Current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I had my SB16 basically working on the 21-Release, but now that I'm running current, not everything work.. XCD works fine, but when I try to cat to /dev/dsp0 for a test, I get: Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? on my console Then, when I try and use sox, I get: isa_dmadone_nobounce: channel 1 not busy I don't think this is a conflict, as at one time, all of this worked... Any ideas? -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 10:22:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA09816 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09783 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02562; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:19:14 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:19:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Alfred Bernard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locking while probing the ISA bus for devices In-Reply-To: <9602021431.AA03061@mis_fo14.it.gcm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Alfred Bernard wrote: > Thanks for the response!!!! No problem. > It locks at the the prompt > "Probing the ISA bus for devices:" ( paraphrased ) > It does not proceed any farther after that. No other output is > displayed. I do not hear/see any disk or tape device active. How odd. that is the display it is locking up on (sc0). What other hardware do you have? You might also try disabling some of the extra devices (printer & serial ports, audio cards, scsi controllers, etc.) Leave sc0 in there though! > BTW: FYI I have Orchid Game Wave 32 board What is this? Sound card? Combo? Some compaines are trying video/audio combo's and I wonder if this is one of them. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:06:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02340 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02134 Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il (cfd.eng.tau.ac.il [132.66.48.40]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA04437 ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:09:20 -0800 Received: by cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il; id AA27061; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:07:43 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:07:43 +0200 (IST) From: Denis Kopylenko To: BSD Questions , BSD Hackers Subject: Access Linux ext2fs from BSD's UFS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is there any way to access Linux's ext2fs from the BSD's native UFS? Thanks for help, Regards, Denis. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:07:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02253 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02166 Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il (cfd.eng.tau.ac.il [132.66.48.40]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA04498 ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:12:40 -0800 Received: by cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il; id AA27588; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:11:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:11:07 +0200 (IST) From: Denis Kopylenko To: BSD Questions Cc: BSD Hackers Subject: Access Linux ext2fs from BSD's UFS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is there any way to access Linux's ext2fs from the BSD's native UFS? Thanks for help, Regards, Denis. PS. Please answer to my private address: vladimir@cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:07:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA01918 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01861 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA05282 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 01:35:41 -0800 Received: from itrsp2.fb10.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (PP); Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:28:17 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 96 10:28:17 +0100 From: Goetz Fischer Message-Id: <9602020928.AA04871@itrsp2.fb10.tu-berlin.de> To: 101603.1662@compuserve.com Subject: Re: Mach64 XF86Config file Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I have a ATI Pro Turbo Mach64 graphics card ( 1mb ) and a svga monitor (hsync > 31-50 vsync 50-90mhz) but I don't seem tobe able to get a decent X11 config > using > FreeBSD 2.05 and Xfree 3.1.1 Hi Adrian! If you have a Mach64 chip on your card, you have to install XF86312 and after that install XF86312B (beta, look at www.xfree86.org). 3.12B has direct support for mach64CT and works fine. By Goetz From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:08:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02212 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02102 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from csmd.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd.cs.uni-magdeburg.de [141.44.22.100]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA04250 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:58:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199602020758.XAA04250@who.cdrom.com> Received: from csmd49.cs.uni-magdeburg.de by csmd.cs.uni-magdeburg.de with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA15237; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:57:16 +0100 Received: by csmd49.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA041807835; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:57:15 +0100 From: Roland Jesse Subject: Re: newbie : How write to DOS Floppy ? To: stevt@digitalweb.com (Steve Tan) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:57:15 +0100 (MEZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602020101.RAA06440@iceland.it.earthlink.net> from "Steve Tan" at Feb 1, 96 05:01:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Steve Tan: > > I believe I need to mount /dev/fd0 or /dev/rmt0 , but I can't > find the specific command to use. try: mount_msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy Alternativly you may decide to install the mtools package. -- Roland (rj,-) Jesse, stud.rer.nat. et phil. URL: http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~jesse/ E-Mail: jesse@csmd.cs.uni-magdeburg.de - pgp encrypted mail preferred - From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:08:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA01548 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA01493 Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA06138; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:07:34 -0600 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:07:32 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: Joerg Wunsch cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compiling current kernel In-Reply-To: <199602010806.JAA25852@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Uggg, I forgot to do a make install, as the make world didn't work the first time, and it finished just with a 'make'. Little stupid mistake... On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, J Wunsch wrote: > As Daniel Baker wrote: > > > > I have finished makeworld and am trying to make a -current kernel, but > > I get this message: > > > > cocoa# config COCOA > > Removing old directory ../../compile/COCOA: Done. > > Unknown % construct in generic makefile: %SFILES > > When running -current, update your config(8) properly. > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > Daniel -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:08:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA01831 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01669 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-04.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.36]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA05414 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 01:56:59 -0800 Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA00639; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 01:56:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 01:56:01 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Using RealAudio under FreeBSD? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to run RealAudio (the Linux version) under FreeBSD. It uses the VoxWare sound driver 3.0.1 or later. My (2.1-RELEASE) system uses 3.0 beta something-or-other. And I seem to remember hearing vague rumblings that the 2.1 Linux emulation code cannot use the sound driver(?). Can I use RealAudio under any of the CURRENT/STABLE/whatever FreeBSD's? (what about other Linux programs that use sound, for taht matter?) Thanks! Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:08:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA01549 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01524 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id CAA05847 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:24:37 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id LAA23556; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:21:31 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id LAA11954; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:21:30 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id LAA04791; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:13:36 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199602021013.LAA04791@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: newbie : How write to DOS Floppy ? To: stevt@digitalweb.com (Steve Tan) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:13:36 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199602020101.RAA06440@iceland.it.earthlink.net> from "Steve Tan" at Feb 1, 96 05:01:25 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Steve Tan wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm -questions: yes, -current: no. > trying to figure out how to write files to a DOS disk, my > floppy drive. Either mkdir /floppy mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy cp mystuff /floppy umount /floppy or get mtools from the ports/packages, and use mwrite/mread. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:09:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02203 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02104 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA03868 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:23:10 -0800 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01I0PSX1TWDC00E1Z1@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Thu, 01 Feb 1996 23:23:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 23:23:25 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: OS/2 Boot Manager, FreeBSD, & Win95 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I0PSX1UFNM00E1Z1@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-VMS-Cc: ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've got the OS/2 boot manager and DOS/Win3.1 on a first SCSI hard drive, with the boot manager able to select the DOS partition or OS/2 or FreeBSD on the second SCSI hard drive. This is working well. I would like to repartition and reformat the DOS/WIN3.1 partition into two primary partitions on the first drive and reinstall DOS/WIN3.1 and Win95 into these partitions, but I don't want to lose the OS/2 boot manager, especially the info it contains about what's on the second hard drive. If I do this, will I be able to get the OS/2 boot manager back (with the OS/2 disks), and is there a way to back up the boot manager so that if it's truly destroyed I can reinstall it? This is not, I realize, the appropriate forum for WIN95/OS/2 boot manager questions, but there seems to be considerable expertise here on what Win95 does to boot managers-- Thanks Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 11:10:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02061 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01909 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from chinook.fishbone.com (root@chinook.fishbone.com [206.101.70.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id AAA05007 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:58:02 -0800 Received: from [204.214.97.107] (dynip107.efn.org [204.214.97.107]) by chinook.fishbone.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA09347 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:56:48 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:56:48 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.com From: michelle@fishbone.com (Michelle Brownsworth) Subject: Boot problem with new FreeBSD install Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a problem getting a new FreeBSD installation to boot. A little background: In preparation for installing FreeBSD, I bought a new Western Digital 1.6 GB drive. It was to have one 528K DOS partition and the remaining 1+ GB was to be allocated to FreeBSD. Since I have an IDE CD drive that is unsupported, I XCOPIED the dists to the DOS partition's FreeBSD directory, and did a FreeBSD install from DOS. I opted to have the BootEasy boot manager installed in the boot blocks so I could boot either DOS or FreeBSD. Unfortunately, I had an older non-translating BIOS that was limited to 1024 cylinders (528K) without employing yet another boot manager that would trick the BIOS. So, I bit the bullet and upgraded to a translating BIOS. After it was installed, I booted the computer for the first time, got the BootEasy menu, and chose F2 (FreeBSD). But instead of booting FreeBSD, the menu kept reappearing with F? as the default. I went back to the documentation, in particular, the hardware troubleshooting docs, which addressed this very problem. It stated that the problem was most likely wrong disk geometry, and that the solution was to reinstall FreeBSD, taking care to ensure the geometry was correct. So I did that. The partitioning editor correctly recognized the drive geometry (3148 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track) and I proceeded to the label editor, and so forth through the rest of the install, which went fine. But when I rebooted and selected F2 from the BootEasy menu--uh oh--same problem. I went back and doublechecked everything--and I do mean everything--again, but no joy. So, I'm stymied. What should be a fairly straight-forward install has turned into quite a thrash... Anybody have any ideas? (BTW, the Walnut Creek subscription is under Adam Fishman's name; I am charged with the task of switching his server from BSDI to FreeBSD.) Thanks in advance, \\ichelle From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 12:01:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA19106 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19099 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:01:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA09173; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:56:11 -0500 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199602021956.OAA09173@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Memory Implementation To: chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:56:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602021514.KAA24984@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "chuck@fang.cs.sunyit.edu" at Feb 2, 96 10:14:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there ppl, > > I was going through the tutorials that were presented at USENIX > last month and found a paper (from the "An Introduction to UNIX Kernel > Internals" tutorial) called "A New Virtual Memory Implementation for > Berkeley UNIX". Is this the Virtual Memory Implementation for 4.4BSD and > is it used in FreeBSD? And if not what are the differences? There is a new book by MCKuisick on 4.4BSD - due in April by Adison-Wesley. I called Adison-Wesley today and ordered one .... tried local Barnes'n'Noble , but they don't accept orders for the books which aren't out yet Finally ! :) Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 12:10:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA19697 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19644 Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id VAA26017; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:00:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from knobel.gun.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knobel.gun.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA00679; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:45:42 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:45:42 +0100 (MET) From: Andreas Klemm To: Steve Tan cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: newbie : How write to DOS Floppy ? In-Reply-To: <199602020101.RAA06440@iceland.it.earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Steve Tan wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm > trying to figure out how to write files to a DOS disk, my > floppy drive. I didn't see any info in the FAQ's or > installation guides. Best is to install mtools. With mdir, mcopy and such you are able to write directly to the disk. > I believe I need to mount /dev/fd0 or /dev/rmt0 , but I can't > find the specific command to use. mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt > I'm using BSD to develop CGI perl scripts and need to transfer > them to a PC running Win95. If I were you, I'd buy 2 ethernet cards, a RG58 cable, two 50 ohm terminators and build up a network. Install samba (-> ports section) on your FreeBSD box. Then you can directly mount a via samba exported filesystem to your Windows 95 box. Better, faster, trickier, easier, than to use a floppy to transfer files... Andreas /// -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de - \/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz apsfilter - magic print filter 4lpd >>> knobel is powered by FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 12:20:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA20375 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.noc.netcom.net (ns3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA20336 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [206.215.142.10]) by ns3.noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA20562 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:18:36 -0800 Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0-206) id AA12417; Fri, 2 Feb 96 12:18:09 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9602022018.AA12417@tera.com> Subject: Does anybody have a ViewSonic7?? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:18:22 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Down to my last serious transition question! It has only been a month+ and BSD is wonderfully capabable... so this has been a record upgrade. Does anybody on the mailinglist have a ViewSonic7 CRT that is working at its highest resolution? I've got a rather generic TS4000 card with 2M of VRAM. The card is a ``Cardex-PCI'' super accelerated whatever. According to the stats on the back on the box, it is a good card, solid value. My monitor is a 1992 model that in the manual claims it will do 1280x1024. In the video config files, however, I saw that recently (August, 1994?), someone had a setup for the ViewSonic7 maxed out at something around 1152x900. Originally, I spent a number of hours over a day or two trying to get my V7 working at 1024x768. The published configuration was off by quite a bit; I had to adjust the horizontal sync figured before it began working. Then a few weeks ago I tried 1280x1024. Zip. Bottom line//nutshell: before spending more headbanging hours on this, I thought I would ask the rest of you. Does the configuration depend upon the type of video card?? I hope not. Does anybody have a ViewSonic7 working at <> highest resolution? and how does it feel to your eyes? Thanks for any insights! This is a great bunch... and, by extension, BSD is a superior OS. gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 14:05:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA01213 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01200 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <16356(14)>; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:04:56 PST Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177478>; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:04:54 -0800 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail: mail loops back to myself In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:06:51 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:04:52 PST From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Feb2.140454pst.177478@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message you write: >I keep getting messages back from MAILER_DAEMON about messages that loop >back to myself. > >How do I fix these? > >Someone else posted and I didn't get a response. > >My machine's name is `riley-net170-164' wiht a CNAME to `gdi'. You have your machine configured to think that its name is gdi.uoregon.edu; however, gdi.uoregon.edu is a CNAME that points to riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu . Now, it's illegal to send email to a CNAME, so when anyone sends mail to user@gdi.uoregon.edu the mailer will automatically change it to user@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu . Since your machine thinks its name is gdi.uoregon.edu, it doesn't know how to deliver that mail. Since it's illegal to put "gdi.uoregon.edu" in any mail headers, your best course of action is to tell sendmail that your host's name is "riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu", by putting "Djriley-net170-164.uoregon.edu" in your /etc/sendmail.cf . If you really want to be able to use "gdi.uoregon.edu" in your mail headers, then you'll have to get your DNS administrators to use either an A record or an MX record, and then make sure that "riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu" is in your "Cw" line in /etc/sendmail.cf . Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 14:38:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA06221 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.eskimo.com (root@mail.eskimo.com [204.122.16.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06205 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from eskimo.com (dpk@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mail.eskimo.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA14814 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 13:13:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 13:13:02 -0800 (PST) From: David Kirchner To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Very odd keyboard problems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't know if anyone else is having this problem or not. I type sort of fast, and when I try to type a capital 'O' followed by either P, Q, R, or S it doesn't print anything. In vi O-R will cause it to escape to command mode and go up a line and then print R. I mean combinations like OS, OP, and such (I had to wait for a second between O and the other letter on those) Let me know if this should go to hackers or not. -- David Kirchner -- dpk@eskimo.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 14:54:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA08270 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08254 Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00673; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:51:41 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602022251.PAA00673@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Access Linux ext2fs from BSD's UFS To: vladimir@cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il (Denis Kopylenko) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:51:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Denis Kopylenko" at Feb 2, 96 10:07:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > Is there any way to access Linux's ext2fs from the BSD's native UFS? No. But you could access Linux's ext2fs from BSD's native ext2fs. Is there any particular reason you want to use the wrong driver? 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 15:09:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA10995 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10966 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA25310; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:11:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:11:49 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602022311.QAA25310@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does anybody have a ViewSonic7?? In-Reply-To: <9602022018.AA12417@tera.com> References: <9602022018.AA12417@tera.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > value. My monitor is a 1992 model that in the manual > claims it will do 1280x1024. Yep, but at 60Hz refresh rate. If you plan on sitting in front of the monitor for more than 5 minutes, you'll want to stick with 1024x768. My monitor is in the same class as yours(Nanao 550i), and I've given up on getting a usable 1280x1024 on it. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 15:31:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA15027 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from npg.wustl.edu (npg.wustl.edu [128.252.241.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15003 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from petsun14.wustl.edu (petsun14.wustl.edu [128.252.241.40]) by npg.wustl.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA23347 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:30:30 -0600 From: Peter Mudd Received: (peter@localhost) by petsun14.wustl.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA01575 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:31:03 -0600 Message-Id: <199602022331.RAA01575@petsun14.wustl.edu> Subject: Intel Overdrive Processors To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:31:03 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD: Will the current version of FreeBSD work on an intel overdrive Pentium processor? thnaks, peter mudd From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 16:01:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA20818 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.noc.netcom.net (ns3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20797 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [206.215.142.10]) by ns3.noc.netcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA23526; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:01:18 -0800 Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0-206) id AA18431; Fri, 2 Feb 96 16:00:55 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9602030000.AA18431@tera.com> Subject: Re: Does anybody have a ViewSonic7?? To: nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:01:08 -0800 (PST) Cc: kline@ns3.noc.netcom.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199602022311.QAA25310@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Feb 2, 96 04:11:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to Nate Williams: > > > value. My monitor is a 1992 model that in the manual > > claims it will do 1280x1024. > > Yep, but at 60Hz refresh rate. If you plan on sitting in front of the > monitor for more than 5 minutes, you'll want to stick with 1024x768. > > My monitor is in the same class as yours(Nanao 550i), and I've given up > on getting a usable 1280x1024 on it. > > Are the Viewsonic and Nanao made by the same manufacturer? Seems to me that my V7 has a higher refresh rate than 60Hz, although I may be imagining that. At any rate, your advice is well taken because some days I just bloody _live_ at the tube. 14, 15 hours and more. So the res. is important. I'll prob'ly switch over to ctwm or whatever RSN because I need more than a few xterms and having a virtual screen is getting old fast. Thanks much. gary > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 16:08:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21418 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from glucose.btsslc.com (glucose.btsslc.com [192.40.29.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21261 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:07:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199602030007.QAA21261@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by glucose.btsslc.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA00300; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:14:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:14:19 -0700 From: Wes Peters To: joe.gazarik@jabs.com (Joe Gazarik) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: I need drivers for the Epson Stylus Color printer and ES-600 C scanner In-Reply-To: <54380592@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Joe Gazarik writes: > Please help!!!! I have a 90 MHz Pentium to which I am going to shortly > be adding on FreeBSD 2.1. My computer is a Packard Bell Legend 105CD. > The computer hardware seems to be supported by FreeBSD. My problem is > that I also have an Epson Stylus Color printer and an Epson ES-600C > flatbed scanner both of which are vital to my work. I need drivers for > the two epson devices mentioned above so that FreeBSD 2.1 will recognize > them and so I can use them in UNIX. Please help me! Epson has been > pretty uncooperative and you guys are my last hope. I really need these > drivers for the printer and scanner. Please tell me where I can get > them. Thanks, I appriciate. Also, just off the top of your head, do > you remember any known conflicts between a Packard Bell Legend 105CD and > FreeBSD. Any and all info would be very helpful. Whoa, calm down! ;^) As the handbook says (or at least *should* say): "Don't Panic." "Printer drivers" in UNIX are not at all like what MS-Windows and Macintosh users think of when they ponder printer drivers. Most printers on the planet can be wired up to a FreeBSD system and use to print *text*. Graphics is another ball of wax. Neither UNIX nor Xwindows specifies any sort of printer support; the closest you can get to a common denominator is PostScript(tm), and even that is not universally supported. Most text and graphics processors do support PS to some extent today. Fortunately, there is a program supplied by the Free Software Foundation, called "ghostscript", which can produce PS output on most modern printers. I have an Epson Stylus 300, the super-cheap black and white version of your printer, and ghostscript works quite nicely with it. All of the Stylus printers use an output language called "ESC/P2", which is supported by ghostscript. Here's the kicker: no color support (that I know of). Ghostscript does support color; drivers are available for at least one of the HP color inkjets (the 660, I think). A clever hacker could probably glean from this how ghostscript specifies colors to a printer driver, and use this information to add color support for the escp2 driver. If I had a color Stylus, I'd probably be willing to help, but I don't have one to play with. I might be able to be talked into it for the cost of a Color Stylus II (hint hint). I can't help you with the scanner support; sorry, I know nothing about them. The usual avenue of approach is to find someone who's already done a scanner driver and (reverently) offer to loan them your equipment until they can hack up a driver for you. This may seem somewhat chaotic, but that's the way free software works. On the other hand, you usually get what you want faster and better than if you buy a support contract from some big, uncaring company who doesn't really care about your piddling ability to affect it's bottom line. ;^) Good luck! > Most Respectfully Yours, > > Joe Gazarik (joe.gazarik@JABS.com) > P.S. Could you also give me details as to going about obtaining Motif > 2.0 for FreeBSD and X-Windows. Thanks again!! Look at the FreeBSD web pages, under "commercial products"? -- I'd rather be sailing. Wes Peters BTS SLC wes@btsslc.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 17:02:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA24668 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from csugrad.cs.vt.edu (csugrad.cs.vt.edu [128.173.41.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24647 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (jagnew@localhost) by csugrad.cs.vt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id UAA31079; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:00:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:00:20 -0500 (EST) From: "H. Jared Agnew" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: A FreeBSD firewall. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a bit of a problem, I am trying to figure out why a call to netstat -r (reports this) bash$ netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default rh-igs.e1.cns.vt.e UGSc 6 1 ep0 LOCALHOST LOCALHOST UH 1 0 lo0 128.173.208 link#2 UC 1 0 rh-igs.e1.cns.vt 0:0:c:5:e8:1e UHLW 6 0 ep0 644 hagnew LOCALHOST UGHS 0 0 lo0 BASE-ADDRESS.MCA link#2 UCS 0 0 I understand the two first lines are my default route to my lan's gateway, and the local host loop. But my question is about the next four lines, 128.173.208 is the IP of my gateway, and rh-igs.e1.cns.vt.edu is its hostname, I know that the 6 hex numbers are the hardware address for the gateway. I think that the "W" in the flags colom was automaticaly put there. But one of the things I dont understand about the last four lines is there is something called link#2, but in the example at: "http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook173.html#304" the links are link#1, I only have one ethernet card in the machine now, and it still reports link#2? I also dont understand why the 5th line is there, unless it is in sysconfig? My second to last question is what is that last line? I have no idea what the destination is? The last question is more of just an email, I would like to setup a firewall with my machine, but I am not really sure what to fiddle with in the sysconfig file. If you have a firewall on your freebsd box with ethernet devices connecting you to the internet, and ethernet devices connecting to machines behind your fire wall would you send me a copy of your sysconfig file, and a really basic description, maybe a netstat -r printout, of what your system setup is. Thanks for any help --- Jared --jared@vt.edu Sorry about spelling, must be line noise over my ethernet connection! |------------------------------------| ____ ____ | H. Jared Agnew | jared@vt.edu | | __| | __| | http://csugrad.cs.vt.edu/~jagnew | | |__ | |__ | phone : (540) 232-4438 | | ___| |___ | | alias : killdash9 | | |__ __| | |------------------------------------| |____| . |____| . From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 17:13:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25907 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:13:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25887 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03026; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:10:53 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:10:53 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Joel Zimba cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-2.0 In-Reply-To: <199602020451.XAA02677@Access.Mountain.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Joel Zimba wrote: > is 2.0 anywhere to be found? or am I condemned to using 2.1? My question would be: WHY do you want to use 2.0?? 1.1.5.1 I can understand, but not 2.0. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 18:05:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29962 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:05:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-24.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.56]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29944 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00327; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:04:59 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:04:58 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@starfleet.gov To: Wes Peters cc: Joe Gazarik , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need drivers for the Epson Stylus Color printer and ES-600 C scanner In-Reply-To: <199602030007.QAA21261@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Wes Peters wrote: > Fortunately, there is a program supplied by the Free Software > Foundation, called "ghostscript", which can produce PS output on most > modern printers. I have an Epson Stylus 300, the super-cheap black > and white version of your printer, and ghostscript works quite nicely > with it. All of the Stylus printers use an output language called > "ESC/P2", which is supported by ghostscript. Here's the kicker: no > color support (that I know of). > > Ghostscript does support color; drivers are available for at least one > of the HP color inkjets (the 660, I think). A clever hacker could The ghostscript version 3 package in the latest ports has a color driver for the Epson Stylus Color. Works quite nicely, at both 360 and 720 dpi resolutions. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 18:51:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04736 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from franklin-fddi.cris.com (franklin-fddi.cris.com [199.3.126.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04727 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from chad.gaianet.net by franklin-fddi.cris.com [1-800-745-CRIS (voice)] Message-Id: <199602030250.VAA18459@franklin-fddi.cris.com> X-Sender: zoogy@pop3.cris.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 18:53:27 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: zoogy@cris.com (Chad Shackley) Subject: SUP X-Mailer: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What are the steps that need to be done after supping to -current? I can't find the exact commands and where they're run in the handbook or FAQ or anywhere else. It all sort of ends after how to use SUP or CTM. I assumed there were some other steps to compile the new sources. Chad From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 19:02:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA06370 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from outland.cyberwar.com (outland.cyberwar.com [204.97.1.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06305 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from Littlecreep.panix.com (creep.dialup.access.net [166.84.209.115]) by outland.cyberwar.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA08359 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:01:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:01:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199602030301.WAA08359@outland.cyberwar.com> X-Sender: creep@cyberwar.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: creep@cyberwar.com (JSA) Subject: Minor hardware question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dear friendly freeBSD people, I am trying to install the CDrom version of freeBSD 2.1. I am using a FreeBSD boot disk that I had obtained fom work. When the system goes through it's initial checking, it doesn't recognize my cdrom player. I checked the manual and my cd rom should be detected. ANother reason I thought was because I have a Gravis Ultrasound MAX sound card and my cdrom is controlled through the card. Do you have any suggestions?? Please help if possible, I need FreeBSD. Thanks! Jeffrey S. Auerbach creep@cyberwar.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 19:09:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA07519 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA07511 Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA03170; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:07:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:07:07 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Steve Tan cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbie : How write to DOS Floppy ? In-Reply-To: <199602020101.RAA06440@iceland.it.earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Steve Tan wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm > trying to figure out how to write files to a DOS disk, my > floppy drive. I didn't see any info in the FAQ's or > installation guides. > I believe I need to mount /dev/fd0 or /dev/rmt0 , but I can't > find the specific command to use. mount_msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt will mount DOS's drive A: to /mnt. > I'm using BSD to develop CGI perl scripts and need to transfer > them to a PC running Win95. Ugly. Why not run a FreeBSD web server and get the better performance? :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 19:24:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA09507 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (sarrazip@maggie.CS.McGill.CA [132.206.51.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09462 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sarrazip@localhost) by maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) id WAA09368 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:24:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:24:07 -0500 From: Pierre Sarrazin Message-Id: <199602030324.WAA09368@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Hard disk with 2466 cylinders Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I am thinking of buying a 1.2G hard disk on which I would install MS-DOS 6.0/6.22 and FreeBSD 2.1.0. I am worried about the ability of my PC to use all of the disk's cylinders. My PC has a GMB-486UNP "80486 VESA Mainboard" (I have the manual) with a 486DX2-66 and 8 megs of memory. It currently has an IDE disk controller. All these things were bought in June of 1994. When the PC boots, I see this: AMIBIOS (C) 1993 American Megatrends Inc. On the BIOS chip itself, I see AMIBIOS AMERICAN MEGATRENDS 486DX ISA BIOS (c) 1993 AB2766757 The hard disk I am thinking of buying is a Samsung which formats to 1.2G according to the store. The following is its geometry: 2466 cylinders 16 heads 63 sectors The store tells me that if I don't have an "LBA" board, DOS will not be able to use more than the first 528 megs. They tell me that 1993 is too old a year for my board to be of the "LBA" type. They say that unlike other large hard disks, the Samsung does not come with a "driver" that would allow DOS to use the entire disk. Of course, they know almost nothing about FreeBSD/Linux/Unix so they can't tell me if this is a DOS-only problem. My objective is to have about one half of the disk for MS-DOS and one half for FreeBSD. There should be a boot manager that allows me to select the operating system I want. N.B.: I currently run MS-DOS 5.0 and FreeBSD 2.0.5 on a 325M disk (1010 cylinders) on the PC that I described, with an appropriate boot manager. Thanks for your time. Pierre Sarrazin [Montreal] From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 20:21:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA18323 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:21:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from alumni.umbc.edu (alumni.umbc.edu [130.85.60.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA18314 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ssriva1@localhost) by alumni.umbc.edu (8.6.12/Alumni) id XAA27606; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:20:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:20:50 -0500 (EST) From: srivastava sandip To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 2.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a Philips LMS CM206 CD-ROM drive. I have noticed that FreeBSD 2.1 doesn't support this drive. Is there a driver somewhere which will make it work with FreeBSD? What should I do? -sandip From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 20:37:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA21064 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com [149.174.213.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21048 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:37:23 -0800 (PST) From: 72447.3335@compuserve.com Received: from CISPPP (hd34-166.compuserve.com [199.174.229.166]) by dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA05162.; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:37:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:37:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199602030437.XAA05162@dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD or Linux? Content-type: text/plain X-Mailer: AIR Mosaic (16-bit) version 3.10.08.25 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to install a unix system on my 386 at home that will be compatable with the sco xenix running on the 486 we have at work. Will either of these systems work? I also would like it to work with my Reveal cd-rom will FreeBSD do that? I want to develope some programs at home that will run at work. Hope these questions are not too simple minded. Thank you, Glenn Rogers From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 21:26:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA28363 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28358 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01I0R33DJG0G00DHU8@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Fri, 02 Feb 1996 21:27:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 21:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Elm, Pine, or ? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I0R33DJZB600DHU8@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" X-VMS-Cc: ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just discovered I can use sendmail or mail from FreeBSD running on my office computer. My e-mail arrives, however, on a VAX (where I like to keep it). The VAX is really awkward when replying to messages--no automatic quoting and character-by-character delete of footers etc. It would be nice to be able to reply to messages using something with a few more features, possibly Pine or Elm. I used pkg_add for Pine but Elm needs to be ported, and an effort to port it produces "Checksum mismatch for elm2.4.tar.z. The office system is 2.0.5 from the cdrom. Any views on Pine vs. Elm for this sort of thing? Or anything else? Also if I reply to a message using elm or pine could I use the VAX return address and forward a copy to the VAX (to myself, I guess) so that the VAX remains the central receiving and storage computer for the e-mail? Thanks Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 21:41:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29458 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from egsner.cirr.com (egsner.cirr.com [192.67.63.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29449 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:41:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon (drawbridge.cirr.com [192.67.63.228]) by egsner.cirr.com (8.7.1/8.7.1/$Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id XAA25531; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:45:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3112F54E.7F7F@dungeon.cirr.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 23:40:30 -0600 From: Chert Pellett Organization: Dis- X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: chert@dungeon.cirr.com Subject: HELP! Trying to upgrade from 2.0.5 to 2.1.0 Major upgrade?? X-URL: http://freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I've been trying to figure out how the heck I should upgrade from 2.0.5-RELEASE to 2.1.0-RELEASE. It appears to be close to impossible. (Without backing up everything, wiping everything out with a re-install, and restoring everything - except those things that I shouldn't.) Sup appears to be worthless because I didn't get a supfile in the specified directory (/usr/share/examples/sup) and the one in /usr/share/FAQ/extras doesn't work... I get: .... SUP Fileserver supports compression. SUP: Invalid release current for collection base SUP: Upgrade of base aborted at Feb 2 23:28:03 1996 SUP Upgrade of bin at Fri Feb 2 23:28:08 1996 SUP Fileserver 9.13 (4.3 BSD) 28525 on freefall.FreeBSD.org at 23:28:08 SUP Fileserver supports compression. SUP: Invalid release current for collection bin SUP: Upgrade of bin aborted at Feb 2 23:28:08 1996 SUP Upgrade of etc at Fri Feb 2 23:28:13 1996 SUP Fileserver 9.13 (4.3 BSD) 28528 on freefall.FreeBSD.org at 23:28:13 SUP Fileserver supports compression. .... etc... This is with the command 'sup standard-supfile' (-v gives the same information..) So, can I get the 'supfile' for the upgrade between 2.0.5 and 2.1.0? Also, all I'm upgrading for is to get the shared libs - I installed nntpd from the 2.1 dist and it issues the warning about the shared libraries - into the stream! and craps out. Also, how do I get the old style packages? I would like the ones to get the source code! For that matter, how the heck do I download the source code for things like /bin, /lib etc?? I've thought about just installing it on another machine and then ftp'ing a zip or tar over.. (What a royal mess...) I have the '.aa' files for slib*, but I can't find back the obscure reference to how to undo those things! (Would it be too much work to have a single zip out there someplace?? Or a Readme that says how to get them?) Or something? Sorry if I seem upset, I just can't find the path to get this upgraded and my system working... (Source to nntpd would be nice, any idea where it might be on your server? I could then just recompile and that would be that... Thanks a bunch! -Chert -- Chert Pellett, mailto: chert@dungeon.cirr.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 21:45:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29744 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:45:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from westlake.tkg.com (westlake.tkg.com [198.3.130.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29737 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ski.austin.ibm.com (ski.austin.ibm.com [9.3.22.20]) by westlake.tkg.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA06702 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:49:47 -0600 Received: by ski.austin.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31407; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:45:14 -0600 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:45:14 -0600 From: peter%ski.austin.ibm.com@tkg.com (Peter Jeffe) Message-Id: <9602030545.AA31407@ski.austin.ibm.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: vi problems Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting an illegal instruction whenever I use "w" or "/" in vi. This is on a 486 with 8 megs. Is this a known problem or do I need to dig around a bit? Is there a better way to find out known bugs without bothering you guys? Thanks! -- peter jeffe peter@tkg.com jeffe@austin.ibm.com http://tkg.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 22:01:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA00670 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from binhdo.home.cs.ubc.ca (binhdo.home.cs.ubc.ca [198.162.38.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00665 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from binhdo@localhost) by binhdo.home.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA08350 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:59:56 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:59:56 -0800 From: Binh Do Message-Id: <199602030559.VAA08350@binhdo.home.cs.ubc.ca> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Floppy disk for Unix... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It may be a very stupid question. I just wonder if we have commands to use floppy disks as Unix disks, i.e. DOS may not understand such disks. For now I just use floppy as DOS (using mtools) and I do not see the topic discueesed in several Unix books. Using "man -k floppy" I see some commands like "fdformat" fdwrite but how to copy to the disks after formatting them? Thank you for explanation and have a good weekend. Binh Do. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 22:05:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA00870 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:05:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from argus.flash.net (root@argus.flash.net [206.149.25.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00852 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by argus.flash.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA03533; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:03:26 -0600 From: mailing list account Message-Id: <199602030603.AAA03533@argus.flash.net> Subject: Re: Virtual Memory Implementation To: rashid@rk.ios.com (Rashid Karimov) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:03:25 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602021956.OAA09173@rk.ios.com> from "Rashid Karimov" at Feb 2, 96 02:56:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply: > There is a new book by MCKuisick on 4.4BSD - due in April > by Adison-Wesley. > I called Adison-Wesley today and ordered one .... tried local > Barnes'n'Noble , but they don't accept orders for > the books which aren't out yet what is the isbn number for the book? Jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" jbryant@argus.flash.net - FlashNet Communications - Ft. Worth, Texas From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Feb 2 23:01:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA03941 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lydia.bradley.edu (lydia.bradley.edu [136.176.5.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03936 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:01:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mikefish@localhost) by lydia.bradley.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA17837; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 01:01:28 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 01:01:28 -0600 From: Michael Shover Message-Id: <199602030701.BAA17837@lydia.bradley.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: X-Windows Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I've downloaded and installed FreeBsd 2.1 and am quite pleased with it. I am completely lost as to where I download a copy of X-Windows for this OS. I found tons of utilities that I'd like to use in X, but I can't find X. Please mail me back when you can. Thanks alot. Fellow UNIX lover, Mike Shover -- ****************** mikefish@lydia.bradley.edu ********************* ---------------- http://rhf.bradley.edu/~mikefish/ ----------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 00:08:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA06833 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06811 Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel1p27.ozemail.com.au [203.2.195.43]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA10528; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:07:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:02:37 +1100 (EST) From: Richard Lyon To: Steve Tan cc: questions@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newbie : How write to DOS Floppy ? In-Reply-To: <199602020101.RAA06440@iceland.it.earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Steve Tan wrote: > I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm > trying to figure out how to write files to a DOS disk, my > floppy drive. I didn't see any info in the FAQ's or > installation guides. > Look at mtools available in the ports collection. This bypasses the need to mount and umount the floppy manually. It also can take care of end-of-line text translation. ie. mdir A: mcopy "A:\*.*" . mcopy unixfile "A:\dosfile" etc etc. Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 00:13:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA07333 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07319 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel1p27.ozemail.com.au [203.2.195.43]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA12156; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:12:29 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:07:23 +1100 (EST) From: Richard Lyon To: Wes Peters cc: Steve Khoo , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is there a port of GNU ld for FreeBSD 2.1R? In-Reply-To: <199602020256.SAA25038@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Wes Peters wrote: > If you're attempting to use GCC 2.7.x, you *will* need to update gas, > but you can still use the standard ld. > Which gas version is this. I assume it is part of binutils 2.6.x . Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 00:17:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA07787 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07779 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel1p27.ozemail.com.au [203.2.195.43]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA13471; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:17:05 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:11:59 +1100 (EST) From: Richard Lyon To: "steve farrell " cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new freebsder -> tiny disk, etc etc... In-Reply-To: <199602020057.SAA15508@quads.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, steve farrell wrote: > > i'm a new freebsder but not a new unixer. i have an old sparc i'm > using now, but don't want to pay for a fast sbus serial card, so i'm > tyring to run freebsd on an old 386 w/high speed serial port. i've > got 4mb ram, amd 386-40, and a 40mb st-251 in the would-be freebsd I think you need more than 4MB ram to install FBSD 2.1 . Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 00:30:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA08970 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA08961 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA01037; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:16:27 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602030846.TAA01037@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Very odd keyboard problems. To: dpk@eskimo.com (David Kirchner) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:16:26 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "David Kirchner" at Feb 2, 96 01:13:02 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk David Kirchner stands accused of saying: > I type sort of fast, and when I try to type a capital 'O' > followed by either P, Q, R, or S it doesn't print anything. In vi O-R > will cause it to escape to command mode and go up a line and then print R. This sounds like you have a faulty keyboard. We have one at work that exhibits those sort of symptoms, and I had a Mitsumi a while back that generated F-key codes if you were too quick. Have you been able to reproduce this with another operating system, or swap keyboard models? > -- David Kirchner -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 00:33:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA09268 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA09256 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel1p27.ozemail.com.au [203.2.195.43]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA17455; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:32:33 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:27:27 +1100 (EST) From: Richard Lyon To: Wes Peters cc: Angel Ortiz , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where Can I find a X debugger for g++ In-Reply-To: <199602020242.SAA23965@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Wes Peters wrote: > GCC 2.7.2 and libg++ 2.7.1 are available, but unless you need one of > the new features, I can't recommend changing right now. The major > difference between 2.6, which FreeBSD 2.1 comes with, and 2.7 is > support for exceptions, which is still pretty experimental. > gcc 2.6.3 has some interesting c++ bugs which I have not been able to work around. The worst problem relates to initialisation of static members. There are other annoying behaviours like incorrect scope resolution. gcc2.7.x does not appear to have these bugs (GM, its that sta comms server). I think it is better to stay with 2.6.3 unless you find you have good c++ code which just won't compile. Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 01:19:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA12905 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 01:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA12887 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 01:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA16460; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 01:19:10 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 01:19:09 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: "H. Jared Agnew" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A FreeBSD firewall. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, H. Jared Agnew wrote: > I'm having a bit of a problem, I am trying to figure out why a call to > > netstat -r (reports this) > > bash$ netstat -r > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default rh-igs.e1.cns.vt.e UGSc 6 1 ep0 > LOCALHOST LOCALHOST UH 1 0 lo0 > 128.173.208 link#2 UC 1 0 > rh-igs.e1.cns.vt 0:0:c:5:e8:1e UHLW 6 0 ep0 644 > hagnew LOCALHOST UGHS 0 0 lo0 > BASE-ADDRESS.MCA link#2 UCS 0 > 0 I'll offer up my guesses... > I understand the two first lines are my default route to my lan's > gateway, and the local host loop. Ding! > But my question is about the next four lines, Note that the routing tables are managed by the system and so some "phantom" routes may appear and disappear. I personally am not concerned with them, as long as I can connect out I am happy. :) > 128.173.208 is the IP of my gateway, and rh-igs.e1.cns.vt.edu is its > hostname, I know that the 6 hex numbers are the hardware address for the > gateway. I think that the "W" in the flags colom was automaticaly put there. Did you add a static route like that? :) It's strange to me that the arp tables cross over with the routing tables. > But one of the things I dont understand about the last four lines is > there is something called link#2, but in the example at: > > "http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook173.html#304" > > the links are link#1, I only have one ethernet card in the machine now, > and it still reports link#2? Link# can also report which jack you are using. On some cards, link#1 is the BNC connector and link#2 is the TP connector. > I also dont understand why the 5th line is there, unless it is in > sysconfig? That one is in sysconfig. > My second to last question is what is that last line? I have no idea > what the destination is? The MCAST line is for multicast routing (sd & friends). Most people can ignore this, I can't since I want to join in the fun at the FreeBSD Lounge. :) I don't do firewall, so I'll stop here. Doug White | Student, University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Major: Computer Science http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Eugene/Spfld BBS List Publisher From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 02:29:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA18311 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 02:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.clark.net [168.143.10.179]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA18303 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 02:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com (mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11]) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA29584 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 05:21:49 -0500 Received: from localhost by mumps.pfcs.com with SMTP id AA00056 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 3 Feb 1996 05:21:46 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: harlan@mumps.pfcs.com Subject: Adding a Seagate 9G drive to FreeBSD-2.1? Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 05:21:45 -0500 Message-Id: <54.823342905@mumps.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, I *thought* I was following the directions... I added the drive to the system (sd1 seems just fine), booted the system, and did an "fdisk -i /dev/rsd1" (from FreeBSD). I took the default geometry (4926 cyl, 26 hd, 133 s/t), UNUSED partitions 0, 1, and 2, and then did a "disklabel -e -r sd1". Disklabel doesn't work - it says the disk is a read-only device (not as far as I can tell). I tried the fdisk again, and this time the original head and sector/track values both showed up as 1! I tried to reset them, but the changes don't "stick". Any suggestions on how I can get this beast working would be greatly appreciated. My goal is to turn the drive into two equal-sized partitions. Just in case, here's the output from dmesg and fdisk: FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Sun Sep 3 05:11:10 EDT 1995 supfcs@brown.pfcs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 16384000 (4000 pages) avail memory = 14794752 (3612 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 ed1 at 0x300-0x31f irq 5 on isa ed1: address 00:40:33:2a:df:5c, type NE2000 (16 bit) bpf: ed1 attached sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff lpt2 not found at 0xffffffff fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0 not found at 0x330 uha0 not found at 0x330 ahc1 not found ahb0: reading board settings, int=11 ahb0 at 0x3000-0x30ff irq 11 on eisa slot 3 ahb0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahb0:0:0): "TOSHIBA MK537FB/ 6258" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahb0:0:0): Direct-Access 1015MB (2079838 512 byte sectors) (ahb0:3:0): "SEAGATE SX410800N 7102" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahb0:3:0): Direct-Access 8347MB (17096357 512 byte sectors) (ahb0:5:0): "ARCHIVE Python 28388-XXX 4.98" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahb0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty (ahb0:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3501TA 3384" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahb0:6:0): CD-ROM cd0(ahb0:6:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present can't get the size aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 not found at 0x340 nca0 not found at 0x1f88 nca1 not found at 0x350 sea0 not found wt0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x300 mcd0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x300 mcd1: timeout getting status mcd1 not found at 0x340 matcd0 not found at 0xffffffff scd0 not found at 0x230 ie0 not found at 0x360 ep0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x300 ix0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x300 le0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 lnc1 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x300 ze0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x300 zp0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the pci0 bus: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. changing root device to sd0a bpf: lo0 attached bpf: sl0 attached bpf: tun0 attached sd0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd0: start 1335296, end 2079837, size 744542 sd0d: start 0, end 2079837, size 2079838 sd0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd0h: start 32, end 614399, size 614368 sd1: cannot find label (no disk label) and... ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=4926 heads=1 sectors/track=1 (1 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=4926 heads=1 sectors/track=1 (1 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 1, size 17034107 (8317 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 0/ sector 2/ head 0; end: cyl 830/ sector 1/ head 0 TIA... H From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 03:46:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA22159 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 03:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA22134 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 03:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA07945; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 06:47:59 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199602031147.GAA07945@hda.com> Subject: Re: I need drivers for the Epson Stylus Color printer and ES-600 C scanner To: wes@btsslc.com (Wes Peters) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 06:47:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: joe.gazarik@jabs.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199602030007.QAA21261@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Wes Peters" at Feb 2, 96 05:14:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Graphics is another ball of wax. Neither UNIX nor Xwindows specifies > any sort of printer support; the closest you can get to a common > denominator is PostScript(tm), and even that is not universally > supported. Most text and graphics processors do support PS to some > extent today. I'm sorry if I said this already but I didn't see my response: If you have the Epson Stylus PRO you can get an Adobe Postscript PROM for it. IMO that is the best FreeBSD solution. Epson is on the net at www.epson.com though I haven't checked the page to see if they give all the info. - Peter Dufault Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 03:54:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA22819 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 03:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA22798 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 03:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA07188; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:57:26 +0100 Message-Id: <199602031157.MAA07188@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: vi problems To: peter%ski.austin.ibm.com@tkg.com (Peter Jeffe) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:57:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9602030545.AA31407@ski.austin.ibm.com> from "Peter Jeffe" at Feb 2, 96 11:45:14 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm getting an illegal instruction whenever I use "w" or "/" in vi. > This is on a 486 with 8 megs. Is this a known problem or do I need > to dig around a bit? Is there a better way to find out known bugs > without bothering you guys? Thanks! > > -- peter jeffe peter@tkg.com jeffe@austin.ibm.com http://tkg.com This is probably an installation problem at your part. Do you have swap space? do you have /tmp? Which version of OS? how did you install it?Under what circumstances does it happen? Editing an empty file/new file?Are you in single user mode or multi user mode? Are your file systems checked OK? Is your hardware OK? (memory, disk?) > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 04:07:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA23574 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 04:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il (cfd.eng.tau.ac.il [132.66.48.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA23542 Sat, 3 Feb 1996 04:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il; id AA17392; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:04:35 +0200 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:04:34 +0200 (IST) From: Denis Kopylenko To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access Linux ext2fs from BSD's UFS In-Reply-To: <199602022251.PAA00673@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Terry. Do we talk about the same version of FreeBSD? I mean FreeBSD 2.1.0 and as far as I see it has not any ext2fs drivers. If there is such driver for FreeBSD, might be I could patch my kernel? If you know where to get a patch, please point me. Thanks, Denis. On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there any way to access Linux's ext2fs from the BSD's native UFS? > > No. > > But you could access Linux's ext2fs from BSD's native ext2fs. > > Is there any particular reason you want to use the wrong driver? 8-). > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 04:14:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA25418 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 04:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA25412 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 04:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA08078; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 07:15:44 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199602031215.HAA08078@hda.com> Subject: Re: newbie : How write to DOS Floppy ? To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 07:15:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: stevt@digitalweb.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602021013.LAA04791@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Feb 2, 96 11:13:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > trying to figure out how to write files to a DOS disk, my > > floppy drive. > > Either > > mkdir /floppy > mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy > cp mystuff /floppy > umount /floppy I use this all the time for simple DOS floppies, but I think recommendations to use msdosfs should include the warning that it is buggy and can corrupt your other mounted file systems. That said, the problems seems to be with larger file systems, appear to be related to having used FIPS to shrink DOS partitions, and I've never had any problems in years of using it for floppies only. Caveat Hackor - Peter -- Peter Dufault Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 06:22:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA01990 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 06:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA01984 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 06:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA10152; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 06:22:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199602031422.GAA10152@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Doug White cc: "H. Jared Agnew" , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A FreeBSD firewall. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Feb 1996 01:19:09 PST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 06:22:31 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I'll offer up my guesses... ... >> the links are link#1, I only have one ethernet card in the machine now, >> and it still reports link#2? > >Link# can also report which jack you are using. On some cards, link#1 is >the BNC connector and link#2 is the TP connector. Nice guess, but wrong. :-) You're thinking of the interface flags; very different. The "link#" should increment by one with each interface added. I think the fact that #1 doesn't exist might be an artifact of some old code in the ep driver that attempts to fill in the link address. This operation was moved out of the drivers and into if_attach() quite some time ago, but some drivers apparantly weren't updated. I think the symptom is completely benign, however, so just ignore it. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 07:00:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA03576 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 07:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA03570 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 07:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id KAA14139; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:00:26 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199602031500.KAA14139@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: pwd To: questions@Freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:00:26 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a strange experience recently. Since I have 2 hard drives, I made some partition for user space on the second disk. But when I mount that partition to /home, as a regular user, 1) > cd /home 2) > pwd pwd: Permission denied 3) > cd .. ..> Permission denied But, as a super user, no such problems!! I even check the permission of /home as a super user, > ls -ld . drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jan 30 19:14 . > ls -ld .. drwxr-xr-x 17 root wheel 512 Jan 29 23:38 .. I am very confused. Would you tell me what I am doing wrong? Regards, UGR (uh@cs.fsu.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 08:50:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA10428 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaia.gol.com (gaia.gol.com [202.243.48.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10423 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaia.gol.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaia.gol.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA02257; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 01:52:56 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <311392E7.41C67EA6@gol.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 01:52:55 +0900 From: Joe Kelly Organization: Global Online Japan (Call +81-3-5330-9380) X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b5 (X11; I; BSD/386 1.1 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: joe@gol.com Subject: FreeBSD Suitable Laptop X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Has any got any suggestions for a good FreeBSD laptop, ideally I'd like it to be cheap-ish and have a SVGA dual scan screen. In this months Computer Shopper I've seen a manufactuer called "Sager", has anybody heard of them or not. Any suggestions would be handy. Sorry if I'm babbling I've had a little too much saki for one night :-) Thanks & Best Regards. Joe Kelly. ______________________________________________________________________ Global OnLine Japan. Dial-Up, Leased-Line, ISDN, Web Services & More. URL: Opinions strictly my own and not those of my employer stated above. ______________________________________________________________________ "Most of the time it was probably real bad being stuck down in a dungeon. But some days, when there was a bad storm outside, you'd look out your little window and think, ``Boy, I'm glad I'm not out in THAT" -- Jack Handey. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 08:53:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA10698 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10655 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id SAA18934 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:52:30 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id SAA20619 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:30:49 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id SAA22690 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:30:48 +0200 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199602031630.SAA22690@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: FreeBSD f77 -- what's it? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:30:48 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk An interested person asked me -- what is f77 (1) in FreeBSD-2.1? My first guess was: I doubt this is a "real" Fortran77 compiler, probably it's a stub for f2c (1), esp. considering a real GNU f77 in the ports collection". Then I went to check it myself, and surprizingly couln't find where /usr/bin/f77's sources are. A rather small executable is here, works Ok, but meither manpage nor source code were located. What's wrong with me? :) The system is FreeBSD-2.1.0-951026-SNAP -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 09:36:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA14711 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14692 Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id SAA29892; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:15:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from knobel.gun.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knobel.gun.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01871; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:47:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:47:31 +0100 (MET) From: Andreas Klemm To: Daniel Baker cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SB16 & Current In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Daniel Baker wrote: > I had my SB16 basically working on the 21-Release, but now that I'm > running current, not everything work.. XCD works fine, but when I try to > cat to /dev/dsp0 for a test, I get: No problems here. Here my kernel config file: # Controls all sound devices controller snd0 # SoundBlaster DSP driver - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS(emulating SB) device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr # SoundBlaster 16 DSP driver - for SB16 - requires sb0 device device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 # SoundBlaster 16 MIDI - for SB16 - requires sb0 device device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 # Yamaha OPL-2/OPL-3 FM - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 # Joystick device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de - \/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz apsfilter - magic print filter 4lpd >>> knobel is powered by FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 09:47:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA15451 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:47:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15437 Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) id LAA04294; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 11:47:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 11:47:00 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: Andreas Klemm cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SB16 & Current In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Daniel Baker wrote: > > > I had my SB16 basically working on the 21-Release, but now that I'm > > running current, not everything work.. XCD works fine, but when I try to > > cat to /dev/dsp0 for a test, I get: > Are you running 2.2-CURRENT from after Feb 1? > No problems here. Here my kernel config file: > > # Controls all sound devices > controller snd0 > # SoundBlaster DSP driver - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS(emulating SB) > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr > # SoundBlaster 16 DSP driver - for SB16 - requires sb0 device > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 > # SoundBlaster 16 MIDI - for SB16 - requires sb0 device > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 > # Yamaha OPL-2/OPL-3 FM - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS > device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 > # Joystick > device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" > > -- > andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH > Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de - > \/ > ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz > apsfilter - magic print filter 4lpd >>> knobel is powered by FreeBSD <<< > -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 10:32:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA18329 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from twolf7.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU (twolf7.ee.washington.edu [128.95.31.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18246 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by twolf7.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU; Sat, 3 Feb 96 10:30:01 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:29:56 -0800 (PST) From: Le-Chin Eugene Liu To: Goetz Fischer Cc: 101603.1662@compuserve.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mach64 XF86Config file In-Reply-To: <9602020928.AA04871@itrsp2.fb10.tu-berlin.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Goetz Fischer wrote: > > > > > I have a ATI Pro Turbo Mach64 graphics card ( 1mb ) and a svga monitor (hsync > > 31-50 vsync 50-90mhz) but I don't seem tobe able to get a decent X11 config > > using > > FreeBSD 2.05 and Xfree 3.1.1 > > Hi Adrian! > If you have a Mach64 chip on your card, you have to install XF86312 > and after that install XF86312B (beta, look at www.xfree86.org). > 3.12B has direct support for mach64CT and works fine. > > By Goetz > I have a ATI CT Mach64 card. I download XF86 3.1.2B and it doesn't work, either. Can you send me the XF86config file? Thanks. Eugene From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 12:35:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27660 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27635 Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA04265; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:32:52 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602032032.NAA04265@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Access Linux ext2fs from BSD's UFS To: vladimir@cfd1.eng.tau.ac.il (Denis Kopylenko) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:32:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Denis Kopylenko" at Feb 3, 96 02:04:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Do we talk about the same version of FreeBSD? I mean FreeBSD 2.1.0 > and as far as I see it has not any ext2fs drivers. > > If there is such driver for FreeBSD, might be I could patch my kernel? > If you know where to get a patch, please point me. Look in the "experimental" section on your CDROM or on the FTP site. It is an LKM. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 12:36:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27806 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from raven.sat.net (ns.sat.net [198.170.216.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27799 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from 198.170.201.26 (mattz.sat.net [198.170.201.26]) by raven.sat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA19380 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:36:13 -0600 Message-ID: <3113742E.7AE@sat.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 14:41:50 +0000 From: "Matthew Z. Stout" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Strange Behavior X-URL: HTTP://WWW.FREEBSD.COM/handbook/handbook55.html#57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a newly installed verion of FreeBSD which is acting strangely. I went through the Generic Kernel (a copy) and commented out the components I did not need, then went through config and make. Config worked, but make returned an error 11 I think (I did'nt make a note). As a test I tried again with fewer modifications; SAME RESULT. Once more I tried, this time simply using the Generic Kernel as it was delivered on the CD. Again the make command returned the error even though I made no modifications what-so-ever to the Generic Kernel. Any ideas what could be causing this??? Thank you for the assist. -MZ Stout mattz@sat.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 12:49:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA28548 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp7.netcom.com [163.179.3.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28543 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:49:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from svr.UUCP by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id MAA17781; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:47:04 -0800 From: Dale Phillips X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sco emulation Date: Sat, 3 Feb 96 12:43:30 PST Message-ID: <9602031243.aa13210@svr.tabfs.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk A qusetion of what I need to do ... On the same machine is it possible to run one app that is a sco binary and another app that is designed and built for BSDi - at the same time with data transfer happening? What prompts this question - is the sco emulation an all or nothing type of emulation ... like dos merge (bad parrallel -sorry) Thanks. Dale Phillips dphillip@tabfs.com sage@ix.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 13:44:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03715 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03706 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:44:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA02333; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:41:48 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:41:47 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Michelle Brownsworth cc: questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: Boot problem with new FreeBSD install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Michelle Brownsworth wrote: > In preparation for installing FreeBSD, I bought a new Western Digital > 1.6 GB drive. It was to have one 528K DOS partition and the remaining > 1+ GB was to be allocated to FreeBSD. Since I have an IDE CD drive that > is unsupported, I XCOPIED the dists to the DOS partition's FreeBSD > directory, and did a FreeBSD install from DOS. I opted to have the > BootEasy boot manager installed in the boot blocks so I could boot > either DOS or FreeBSD. Unfortunately, I had an older non-translating > BIOS that was limited to 1024 cylinders (528K) without employing yet > another boot manager that would trick the BIOS. So, I bit the bullet > and upgraded to a translating BIOS. I'm going to drag this around for ref... Good choice on the BIOS upgrade. I detest the MBR translators. > After it was installed, I booted > the computer for the first time, got the BootEasy menu, and chose F2 > (FreeBSD). But instead of booting FreeBSD, the menu kept reappearing > with F? as the default. This is why I don't like booteasy: it did this to me. I remember hearing the solution is to set your FreeBSD partition as "active" on the second disk, using FDISK. Someone correct me, please. Hope this helps. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 13:52:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA04382 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04358 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA02346; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:48:15 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:48:15 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Reg Braddock cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CMD640 ide controllers In-Reply-To: <199602021251.XAA11016@tierzero.apana.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Reg Braddock wrote: > Subject says it all. Will IDE controllers with these chips work > ok, or have I finally found a compelling reason to grab a scsi > card? I sure hope so; that's the one in my machine! :) We don't have native drivers, but the default wdc0 will support it fine. I have the SCO ones if anyone wants to port them... Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 13:55:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA04803 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lydia.bradley.edu (lydia.bradley.edu [136.176.5.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04778 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mikefish@localhost) by lydia.bradley.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA25439; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:54:48 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:54:48 -0600 From: Michael Shover Message-Id: <199602032154.PAA25439@lydia.bradley.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hello. i have freebsd on my system and am trying to configure x windows. the only problem so far seems to be with the mouse. the x console comes up with the login and xterm windows, but the mouse will not move. the mouse is a normal microsoft mouse that plugs into the mouse port on the machine, not com1 or com2. any help would be very appreciated. -- ****************** mikefish@lydia.bradley.edu ********************* ---------------- http://rhf.bradley.edu/~mikefish/ ----------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 13:59:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA05161 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05150 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:59:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA02359; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:55:37 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:55:37 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Annelise Anderson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Elm, Pine, or ? In-Reply-To: <01I0R33DJZB600DHU8@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > I just discovered I can use sendmail or mail from FreeBSD running on my > office computer. :-) > My e-mail arrives, however, on a VAX (where I like > to keep it). The VAX is really awkward when replying to messages--no > automatic quoting and character-by-character delete of footers etc. I see. There is a VMS version of Pine, ever try running it on the VAX? > It would be nice to be able to reply to messages using something with a > few more features, possibly Pine or Elm. I used pkg_add for Pine but > Elm needs to be ported, and an effort to port it produces "Checksum > mismatch for elm2.4.tar.z. The office system is 2.0.5 from the cdrom. > Any views on Pine vs. Elm for this sort of thing? Or anything else? You're probably asking for it on this one... I personally like Pine. It's a comfortable environment and has the mix of features I like. It's based on Elm so you could call it the next gen Elm. I have never used Elm so I'm not going to say anything about it. > Also if I reply to a message using elm or pine could I use the VAX > return address and forward a copy to the VAX (to myself, I guess) so > that the VAX remains the central receiving and storage computer for > the e-mail? Your problem will be getting the mail off the VAX in the first place. Are they running a pop daemon that you could pull mail off with? Sending it isn't the problem, it's retrieving it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 14:15:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA06524 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA06519 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA04491; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:13:09 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602032213.PAA04491@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Suitable Laptop To: joe@gol.com (Joe Kelly) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:13:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, joe@gol.com In-Reply-To: <311392E7.41C67EA6@gol.com> from "Joe Kelly" at Feb 4, 96 01:52:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Has any got any suggestions for a good FreeBSD laptop, ideally I'd like > it to be cheap-ish and have a SVGA dual scan screen. In this months > Computer Shopper I've seen a manufactuer called "Sager", has anybody > heard of them or not. Any suggestions would be handy. AFAIK, Sager had the first P90 laptop. Their prices are good, generally better than what the laptop people are charging for cruddy old machines with 1/10th the capability on the "for sale" groups on usenet. Their screen resoloution isn't very good. NEC (and a few others now) have 800x600. Sager actually promised me 1024x768 at one time; I'm still waiting for anyone (besides Tadpole, who what $5000 for the display along) to support a usable screen resoloution on a laptop. Personally, resoloution is the reason I still don't own a laptop, even though I *really* want one. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 14:17:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA06902 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA06889 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA04503; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:15:24 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602032215.PAA04503@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: pwd To: uh@sed.cs.fsu.edu (Gang-Ryung Uh) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:15:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199602031500.KAA14139@sed.cs.fsu.edu> from "Gang-Ryung Uh" at Feb 3, 96 10:00:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I have a strange experience recently. Since I have 2 hard drives, > I made some partition for user space on the second disk. But when > I mount that partition to /home, > > as a regular user, > > 1) > cd /home > 2) > pwd > pwd: Permission denied > > 3) > cd .. > ..> Permission denied > > But, as a super user, no such problems!! > I even check the permission of /home as a super user, > > > ls -ld . > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jan 30 19:14 . > > > ls -ld .. > drwxr-xr-x 17 root wheel 512 Jan 29 23:38 .. > > I am very confused. Would you tell me what I am doing wrong? ls -ld / - What are the permissions on /? mount - is /home mounted? What are the permissions on the mount-point if you unmount /home, if it's mounted? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 14:20:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA07226 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07217 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:20:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA04522; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:19:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199602032219.PAA04522@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: sco emulation To: dphillip@tabfs.com (Dale Phillips) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:19:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9602031243.aa13210@svr.tabfs.com> from "Dale Phillips" at Feb 3, 96 12:43:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > A qusetion of what I need to do ... > > On the same machine is it possible to run one app that is a sco binary and > another app that is designed and built for BSDi - at the same time with data > transfer happening? > > What prompts this question - is the sco emulation an all or nothing type of > emulation ... like dos merge (bad parrallel -sorry) The answer is "yes, provisionally". It depends on how you are sharing data between the apps. I believe pipes and sockets will both work, shared memory depends on the packing and ordering and alignment from both machines on the dsata in the shared semnet, and SYSV IPC probably won't be happy (just a gut feeling, since no one is doing a lot of this). They'll definitely run dsimultaneously -- and Linux, and NetBSD and FreeBSD binaries, and DOS (under PCEMU) and Windoes (under Willows) and Mac (under Executor under Linux) and Commodore64 under the XC64, and... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 15:01:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA09537 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from franklin-fddi.cris.com (franklin-fddi.cris.com [199.3.126.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09532 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from chad.gaianet.net by franklin-fddi.cris.com [1-800-745-CRIS (voice)] Message-Id: <199602032300.SAA17118@franklin-fddi.cris.com> X-Sender: zoogy@pop3.cris.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 15:02:57 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: zoogy@cris.com (Chad Shackley) Subject: Compiling current X-Mailer: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I did a sup to current, but I still can't find out what needs to be done to compile the new system. The most documentation I could find said to "at least do a make world". Well, it didn't say from where, and it didn't say what to do before, or after, or "at most". Help please? Thanks. Chad From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 16:45:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA14308 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA14300 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:45:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) id SAA26503; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:45:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:45:04 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: Chad Shackley cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling current In-Reply-To: <199602032300.SAA17118@franklin-fddi.cris.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Chad Shackley wrote: > I did a sup to current, but I still can't find out what needs to be done to > compile the new system. The most documentation I could find said to "at > least do a make world". Well, it didn't say from where, and it didn't say > what to do before, or after, or "at most". If you're not exactly sure what to do, you may want to be careful with -current. It's not really supported by FreeBSD, and it's just things that are changed and commited by the FreeBSD core team. If not done right, or even if you do it right, it could wreck your system, I'd recommend you subscribe to freebsd-current before you start doing this, etc. > > Help please? cd to /usr/src and type in make world On my Intel Pentium 66 with 24 MB ram, I can compile world in about 7 to 8 hours, so if you're running on a 386 or something........ > > Thanks. > > Chad > > Daniel -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 17:14:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA15732 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from vogon.muc.de (root@vogon.muc.de [193.174.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15723 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [193.174.4.22] ([193.174.4.22]) by vogon.muc.de with SMTP id <93667-1>; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 02:13:32 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 02:15:52 +0100 To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU From: lutz@muc.de (Lutz Albers) Subject: Re: OS/2 Boot Manager, FreeBSD, & Win95 Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In article <01I0PSX1UFNM00E1Z1@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>, Annelise Anderson writes: - -I've got the OS/2 boot manager and DOS/Win3.1 on a first SCSI hard drive, -with the boot manager able to select the DOS partition or OS/2 or -FreeBSD on the second SCSI hard drive. This is working well. - -I would like to repartition and reformat the DOS/WIN3.1 partition into -two primary partitions on the first drive and reinstall DOS/WIN3.1 and -Win95 into these partitions, but I don't want to lose the OS/2 boot -manager, especially the info it contains about what's on the second -hard drive. If I do this, will I be able to get the OS/2 boot manager -back (with the OS/2 disks), and is there a way to back up the boot -manager so that if it's truly destroyed I can reinstall it? There's not much info stored with the boot manager. You can reinstall it anytime with the OS/2 fdisk command, IF THE FOLLOWING IS TRUE: you need a primary partition for the boot manager. A PC hard-disc can only hold 4 primary partitions (no extended partition then) or 3 primary partitions and an extended partition. You know that these 2 primary DOS partitions are unaccesible from each other ? PC hard disc partitions suck ... ciao lutz --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lutz Albers | What's good ? Luederitzstr. 14, 81929-Muenchen, Germany | Life's good - email:lutz@muc.de ph: +49-89-93940364 | But not fair at all http://www.muc.de/~lutz fax:+49-89-93940365 | (Lou Reed) Do not take life too seriously, you will never get out of it alive. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 18:27:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA18797 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [199.104.90.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18790 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA15633; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:24:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:24:59 -0700 (MST) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 18:49:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA19801 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cy.com (root@jake.atlwin.com [155.229.56.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19795 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from jake.atlwin.com ([155.229.56.32]) by cy.com (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id WAA06031; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:48:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:48:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199602040348.WAA06031@cy.com> X-Sender: tkelley@cy.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: michelle@fishbone.com (Michelle Brownsworth), questions@freebsd.org From: "Tim M. Kelley" Subject: Re: Boot problem with new FreeBSD install Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 12:56 AM 2/2/96 -0800, Michelle Brownsworth wrote: >In preparation for installing FreeBSD, I bought a new Western Digital >1.6 GB drive. It was to have one 528K DOS partition and the remaining >1+ GB was to be allocated to FreeBSD. Since I have an IDE CD drive that If you change your IDE configuration so that the CD is the slave device on the primary IDE controller or ribbon, FreeBSD may be able to install from the IDE CD. I did this and was able to install. Then you can customize the kernel (once you are actually able to boot FreeBSD) so that the IDE CD is recognized on boot up. Email me or ask freebsd-questions for more info on doing this. Actually, I submitted a FAQ to the documentation team about this, but it hasn't shown up on the web yet. >But when I rebooted and selected F2 from the BootEasy menu--uh oh--same >problem. I went back and doublechecked everything--and I do mean >everything--again, but no joy. > I'm unsure from your comments whether you have one or two hard drives. If you have two hard drives and you installed FreeBSD on the second, the booteasy boot manager won't boot FreeBSD. I don't know that this is generally true, but I've seen it mentioned a few times on the freebsd-questions list. Also, I had the same problem. You ought to be able to boot FreeBSD by placing the FreeBSD boot floppy into the floppy drive and when prompted for the boot drive, enter wd(2,a)/kernel if you installed the kernel on the second hard drive. You may need to try modify the above line based on how you partitioned your hard drive. You can get rid of the booteasy boot manager by running under DOS the command FDISK /MBR This replaces the original DOS master boot record. It is supposedly possible to make a custom boot floppy that will automatically go to the appropriate boot location for FreeBSD, but I haven't gotten around to trying this. If you are interested in the instructions that were passed on to me for this, just email me. >So, I'm stymied. What should be a fairly straight-forward install has >turned into quite a thrash... Anybody have any ideas? > I second the comment on what should be a straight-forward install. I had lots of trouble too. Tim Kelley From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 19:16:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA20861 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20852 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01I0SD2WGK6O8WWRC9@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Feb 1996 19:16:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 19:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Where is XV? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I0SD2WGNYA8WWRC9@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for XV, but it won't install from the 2.1 CDROM, and it isn't in the packages-2.1/graphics directory anymore. Is it not available for FreeBSD? Thanks John From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 20:24:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA24404 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24399 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA03175; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:10:18 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602040440.PAA03175@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Boot problem with new FreeBSD install To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:10:18 +1030 (CST) Cc: michelle@fishbone.com, questions@freebsd.com In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Feb 3, 96 01:41:47 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Doug White stands accused of saying: > > After it was installed, I booted > > the computer for the first time, got the BootEasy menu, and chose F2 > > (FreeBSD). But instead of booting FreeBSD, the menu kept reappearing > > with F? as the default. > > This is why I don't like booteasy: it did this to me. > > I remember hearing the solution is to set your FreeBSD partition as > "active" on the second disk, using FDISK. Someone correct me, please. > Ok, some explanations about how Booteasy works may be helpful here. The F1-F4 entries are displayed to match the partition types in the partition table in the MBR. If there is another disk, the F5 entry is displayed. If you hit one of the F1-4 keys, Booteasy will look for the partition bootstrap record in the first sector of the partition, as defined by its partition table entry. If this succeeds, the key is saved as the default, and the record is executed, loading the chosen operating system. If the load _fails_ (bad magic number etc.) Booteasy redisplays the list, with F? shown as the default (no default). This most often happens when you have a geometry disagreement between FreeBSD and the BIOS, or when the partition is too far away (beyond the 1024 cylinder mark). F5 loads the MBR code from the second disk, and if it succeeds, it's executed. If this is another copy of Booteasy, the process repeats. If it's a DOS-style MBR, it will look for a bootable partition on the _first_ disk. If the load fails (bad magic numberm ie. no MBR on the second disk), then you get the F? prompt again. Booting a PC is a _drag_. Booteasy does a good job of being as sensible as it can. > Doug White | University of Oregon -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 20:27:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA24485 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:27:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24480 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA03184; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:13:44 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602040443.PAA03184@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Suitable Laptop To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:13:43 +1030 (CST) Cc: joe@gol.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602032213.PAA04491@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Feb 3, 96 03:13:09 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > Their screen resoloution isn't very good. NEC (and a few others now) > have 800x600. Sager actually promised me 1024x768 at one time; I'm > still waiting for anyone (besides Tadpole, who what $5000 for the > display along) to support a usable screen resoloution on a laptop. Just as an observation, for people who want portable BSD machines, a visit to http://www.primenet.com/~acme/ may be illuminating, _particularly_ the bit about their 'knock-down-kits'. They're also promising 1024x768 mid-late this year. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 20:37:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA24915 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (root@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com [206.109.5.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24905 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by cocoa.ops.neosoft.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) id WAA11089; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:37:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:37:31 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@cocoa.ops.neosoft.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: hd(1,a) secondary drive Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have two harddrives, one IDE that holds my old freebsd stuff and windows 95, and one 4gb quantum SCSI that holds my new freebsd stuff... Whenever I want to boot freebsd, I hit F4 which is one of the IDE bootmanger things then I have to type in hd(1,a)/kernel I tried to get it to boot off the quantum, but it still insits on only listing DOS and the ide's BSD partition in the bootmanager... Any ideas? -- Daniel Baker - Daniel@Cuckoo.COM "Huhuhu, thank you, drive through please" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 20:44:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA25217 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25212 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA03227; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:30:44 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602040500.PAA03227@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Strange Behavior To: mattz@sat.net (Matthew Z. Stout) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:30:44 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3113742E.7AE@sat.net> from "Matthew Z. Stout" at Feb 3, 96 02:41:50 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Matthew Z. Stout stands accused of saying: > > I have a newly installed verion of FreeBSD which is acting > strangely. I went through the Generic Kernel (a copy) and commented > out the components I did not need, then went through config and > make. Config worked, but make returned an error 11 I think (I > did'nt make a note). As a test I tried again with fewer > modifications; SAME RESULT. Once more I tried, this time simply > using the Generic Kernel as it was delivered on the CD. Again the > make command returned the error even though I made no modifications > what-so-ever to the Generic Kernel. Any ideas what could be causing > this??? Thank you for the assist. Something that you need to learn : ALWAYS WRITE DOWN ERROR MESSAGES. WE CAN'T READ YOUR MIND, OR TELEPATHICALLY COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR COMPUTER. Sorry, but that _really_ narks me. "It doesn't work, and I can't be bothered telling you enough about it to fix it, but I still expect instant help." Regardless, I'm so studly that I know the error you're talking about 8) What you're actually seeing would contain the words "signal 11". You have hardware problems. Either bad memory, cache, motherboard or (if you're using one) SCSI controller. Start by increasing your memory waitstates if your BIOS allows it, also try disabling the motherboard cache, and the processor's onboard cache. If none of this helps, try swapping your RAM with memory from another machine. Good luck. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 21:14:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA27315 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [198.7.0.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27307 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from jbarrm.dialup.access.net (jbarrm@jbarrm.dialup.access.net [166.84.200.169]) by mail1.panix.com (8.7.1/8.7.1/PanixM1.0) with SMTP id AAA13964 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:14:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:14:01 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson X-Sender: jbarrm@jbarrm.dialup.access.net To: "Freebsd.questions" Subject: QIC-80 & 15 day return policy Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just purchased a Colorado Jumbo 350 QIC-80 tape drive, and I still have 12 days left to return it for refund. So far it seems to work. I can backup & restore up to 4meg or so of files. With anything larger, problems start. The problems are the same that others have written about (www.freebsd.org archives): 'fdc0: output ready timeout' 'fdc0: input ready timeout' 'ft0: unrecoverable write error on block 3200' I'm using the supplied tape that came with the unit, Verbatim DC2120XL (425ft). Things go along fine, the tape zips by writing small files. On the larger stuff, the tape zips by till it gets to the end, then the 'write error' message appears, and the drive inches along, short rewind, inches along. This continues on & on, ft is unkillable, at which point I shutdown. My question is, before I return this tape unit, is there any quick fix that will allow for reasonably large files to be written to this brand of drive without the above mentioned problems? I'm running a 486DX2/66 VLB with an ide harddrive. The mail archives suggest that the Adaptec 1542 (currently $229.00) will work alongside an ide i/o card. The Colorado only costs $120.00, it seemed like a good deal at the time. But the cost of the 1542, and whatever a tape drive for that card will run me is a concern. Thanks for listening. Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0-R <---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 21:38:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29126 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.ct.net (root@blue.ct.net [205.160.247.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29121 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp1.ct.net (ppp1.ct.net [205.160.247.102]) by blue.ct.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA12970; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:45:38 -0500 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: mikee@ct.net (Michael Edwards) Subject: Downloading FreeBSD Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:22:20 cc: mikee@ct.net Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm new on the www, so I'm a bit unfamilure as to how to go about downloading. Can you be specific as to where I need to go and what file(s) I need to get ? Thanks ... Mikee From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 21:57:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29615 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29610 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA03382; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:43:14 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602040613.QAA03382@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: QIC-80 & 15 day return policy To: jbarrm@panix.com (Barry Masterson) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:43:14 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Barry Masterson" at Feb 4, 96 00:14:01 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Barry Masterson stands accused of saying: > > I just purchased a Colorado Jumbo 350 QIC-80 tape drive, and I still > have 12 days left to return it for refund. Don't wait, _send_it_back_. These drives are _awful_; the whole floppy-tape idea sucks six ways from Sunday. > My question is, before I return this tape unit, is there any quick fix > that will allow for reasonably large files to be written to this brand of > drive without the above mentioned problems? It's possible that the driver could be improved, but there are _fundamental_ problems with the interface that can't be overcome. > I'm running a 486DX2/66 VLB with an ide harddrive. The mail archives > suggest that the Adaptec 1542 (currently $229.00) will work alongside > an ide i/o card. Certainly will, and lets you run other SCSI peripherals to boot. If all you want to use is a tape unit, then personally I'd go for a cheaper SCSI controller (I seem to recall people running Exabyte units successfully off Adaptec 1520's). > The Colorado only costs $120.00, it seemed like a good deal at the time. > But the cost of the 1542, and whatever a tape drive for that card will > run me is a concern. You should be able to get a secondhand QIC150 tape unit for around $100; these will take the 250M DC6250 tapes, and are rock-solid. (eg. I paid $150 australian recently for an Archive Viper 150 and an Adaptec 1510). With a little occasional TLC, one of these drives will give you excellent service. > Barry Masterson -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 21:58:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29748 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lisa.rur.com (G338.257.InterLink.NET [199.202.234.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29739 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:58:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from leo@localhost) by lisa.rur.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA00634; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:59:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:59:34 -0500 (EST) From: Leo Papandreou To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Quantum Atlas woes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hot on the tails of a recent Barracuda failure, I installed a Quantum XP34300 and upgraded from 2.0.5 to 2.1-Release (nice install btw.) When putzing around with small file operations everything seems cool enough but when i attempt to mget or cp several hundred files i invariably get a stream of i/o errors. Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: assertion "cp" failed: file "../../pci/ncr.c", line 5560 Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: sd1(ncr0:2:0): COMMAND FAILED (4 28) @f09b5400. [repeated ad nauseum] And on a reboot, DIRECTORY /foo: LENGTH 2576 NOT A MULTIPLE OF 512 (ADJUSTED) FREE BLK COUNTS(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK (SALVAGED) BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS (SALVAGED) SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD (SALVAGED) CLEAN FLAG NOT SET IN SUPERBLOCK (FIXED) Is there a known failing in the ncr driver vis a vis the Quantum Atlas that -STABLE corrects? Also, it hurts me to say this and I'm begining to fear for the worst, the drive will be quiet for several minutes and then all of a sudden start to emit these grinding/rattling/sickening burps every 20 seconds or so. Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Feb 3 21:53:49 EST 1996 Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: root@bart.rur.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BART_RUR Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: CPU: 100-MHz Pentium 815\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: Features=0x1bf Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: avail memory = 31629312 (30888K bytes) Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa Feb 3 23:54:54 bart /kernel: sio0: type 16550A Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: sio1: type 16550A Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: npx0 on motherboard Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: Probing for devices on the PCI bus: Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: de0 rev 17 int a irq 12 on pci0:9 Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: de0: DC21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.1 Ethernet address 00:00:c0:68:f6:9d Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: de0: enabling 10baseT UTP port Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:10 Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: ncr0 rev 1 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: (ncr0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST31230N 0300" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: 1010MB (2069860 512 byte sectors) Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: (ncr0:2:0): "Quantum XP34300 81HB" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 Feb 3 23:54:55 bart /kernel: sd1(ncr0:2:0): Direct-Access Feb 3 23:54:56 bart /kernel: sd1(ncr0:2:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. Feb 3 23:54:56 bart /kernel: 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors) This is on a P54TP4 motherboard. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 22:17:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01038 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA01031 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:17:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA28676; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 23:20:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 23:20:00 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602040620.XAA28676@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Michael Smith Cc: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert), questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Suitable Laptop In-Reply-To: <199602040443.PAA03184@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199602032213.PAA04491@phaeton.artisoft.com> <199602040443.PAA03184@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Just as an observation, for people who want portable BSD machines, a visit > to http://www.primenet.com/~acme/ may be illuminating, _particularly_ > the bit about their 'knock-down-kits'. They're also promising 1024x768 > mid-late this year. No offense, but a 22 lb. box doesn't fit into my idea of 'portable'. I can get a NEC that weighs about 6lbs with all of the features of their portable minus the expansion slots. And, the 'knock-down' kit starts at 19 lbs., which is still pretty heft. I just can't see dragging one of these around the airport, and I don't even want to think about battery life. :) In any case, the trade rags I read are claiming two big changes in portables this year. 1) Intel is making a laptop motherboard, which should bring the prices down a whole bunch. Intel realizes there is money to be made in laptops, so they are going to jump in and make things cheap enough so that vendors *must* buy their hardware to stay competitive. 2) New LCD technology. IBM has some boxes out with a 12.4" displays, and 1024x768 are rumored to be in testing right now. And, there is a (really!) new LCD screen that IBM is testing internally that actually folds up that might go into production some time next year. Things are looking up. Now, if we could only get folks to do as much R&D into memory and batteries so we could actually *use* these really fast CPU's w/out requiring really funky memory systems and heavy batteries. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 22:40:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA02597 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (slcmodem1-p1-13.intele.net [204.118.149.112]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02592 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04094; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 23:41:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 23:41:06 -0800 From: Barnacle Wes Message-Id: <199602040741.XAA04094@obie.softweyr.com> To: Richard Lyon CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a port of GNU ld for FreeBSD 2.1R? In-Reply-To: <63979497@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Wes Peters wrote: % If you're attempting to use GCC 2.7.x, you *will* need to update gas, % but you can still use the standard ld. Richard Lyon asked: > Which gas version is this. I assume it is part of binutils 2.6.x . That one works fine; I've been using it for about a month. I think the GCC-2.7 README (or INSTALL) specifically mentions 2.4 or later. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 22:41:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA02692 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02680 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA03478; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 17:27:30 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602040657.RAA03478@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Suitable Laptop To: nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 17:27:30 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199602040620.XAA28676@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Feb 3, 96 11:20:00 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > > Just as an observation, for people who want portable BSD machines, a visit > > to http://www.primenet.com/~acme/ may be illuminating, _particularly_ > > the bit about their 'knock-down-kits'. They're also promising 1024x768 > > mid-late this year. > > No offense, but a 22 lb. box doesn't fit into my idea of 'portable'. I > can get a NEC that weighs about 6lbs with all of the features of their > portable minus the expansion slots. And, the 'knock-down' kit starts at > 19 lbs., which is still pretty heft. I just can't see dragging one of > these around the airport, and I don't even want to think about battery > life. :) You'll note that I said _portable_; ie. everything slaps together in one piece with a handle. If, like us, you want to add extra peripherals beyond what you get in a notebook, or you want more disk etc., one of these boxes is not so bad. (Incidentally, you'll note they don't have batteries 8) Before you start making noises about PCCARDs; I don't see any high-speed digital I/O cards, and nobody is making them easy to design 8( > Things are looking up. Now, if we could only get folks to do as much > R&D into memory and batteries so we could actually *use* these really > fast CPU's w/out requiring really funky memory systems and heavy > batteries. There was a lot of really aggressive battery R&D going on a while ago in the automotive industry; I recall the hot thick polymer batteries as being all the go (except for their oprating temperatures 8) back then, but apart from LiFe we haven't seen much flow-on. > Nate -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 22:52:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA03784 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03775 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id BAA18495; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 01:52:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 01:52:39 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: QIC-80 & 15 day return policy In-Reply-To: <199602040613.QAA03382@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > Barry Masterson stands accused of saying: > > > > I just purchased a Colorado Jumbo 350 QIC-80 tape drive, and I still > > have 12 days left to return it for refund. > > Don't wait, _send_it_back_. These drives are _awful_; the whole > floppy-tape idea sucks six ways from Sunday. > I have the screw driver and packing tape close by. The tape and cdrom options look much better for scsi. I should have gone that route from the start. Good sound advice. Thank you. Barry Masterson >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0-R <---<---<---<---<---< .... > > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ > ]] "wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai [[ > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 3 23:04:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA05462 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 23:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (slcmodem1-p1-13.intele.net [204.118.149.112]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05451 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 23:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA04172; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:03:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:03:09 -0800 From: Barnacle Wes Message-Id: <199602040803.AAA04172@obie.softweyr.com> To: Binh Do CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Floppy disk for Unix... In-Reply-To: <116858311@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Binh Do writes: > It may be a very stupid question. I just wonder if we have commands to > use floppy disks as Unix disks, i.e. DOS may not understand such disks. > For now I just use floppy as DOS (using mtools) and I do not see the topic > discueesed in several Unix books. > > Using "man -k floppy" I see some commands like "fdformat" fdwrite but how > to copy to the disks after formatting them? You could make a filesystem on the floppy, using newfs, and mount like a hard disk. You can also use tar with floppies, for backups or moving software from one machine to another. As far as Unix is concerned, a floppy is just another disk drive. ;^) > Thank you for explanation and have a good weekend. Working on it. ;^) -- Wes Peters | Yes I am a pirate, two hundred years too late Softweyr | The cannons don't thunder, there's nothing to plunder Consulting | I'm an over forty victim of fate... wes@intele.net | Jimmy Buffett