From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 9 02:29:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13593 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13588 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA24356 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:29:46 -0800 (PST) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 2 questions about C++ support in 2.2 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 02:29:46 -0800 Message-ID: <24352.857903386@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've noticed lately in trying to compile some of the more complex C++ applications I've been playing with (one being ports/devel/tvision to cite a specific example) that the assembler now spits out quite a bit of stuff along these lines: /var/tmp/cc024167.s:10678: Warning: GOT relocation burb: `_Am_Standard_Widget_Abort_Method_proc__FG9Am_Object' should be global /var/tmp/cc024167.s:10678: Warning: GOT relocation burb: `_Am_Standard_Widget_Stop_Method_proc__FG9Am_ObjectG8Am_Value' should be global /var/tmp/cc024167.s:10678: Warning: GOT relocation burb: `_Am_Standard_Widget_Start_Method_proc__FG9Am_ObjectG8Am_Value' should be global /var/tmp/cc024167.s:10678: Warning: GOT relocation burb: `_border_rectangle_draw_proc__FG9Am_ObjectP13Am_Drawonableii' should be global /var/tmp/cc024167.s:10678: Warning: GOT relocation burb: `_do_accelerator_action_proc__FG9Am_Object' should be global And so on (these messages are from a compilation of the Amulet 2.0 library, in case anyone actually cares). So now the two questions: 1. What the hell is a "relocation burb" and how can one avoid them? :-) 2. Shouldn't these messages demange the symbol first, so you don't have to hassle with c++filt? I thought we were here once before (though probably in connection with the loader) and everyone agreed that built-in symbol demanging was good, very user friendly and we should all do it. Whatever happened to that idea? :-) If it's just something which has fallen on the floor, it annoys me enough that I'd be willing to pick it up myself. Yours for a nicer (relatively speaking) C++ environment... Jordan P.S. I don't expect for us to have anything improved for 2.2-RELEASE, but maybe we could at least get it fixed up in time for 2.2.1? :) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 9 09:23:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01312 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01307 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12803; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:23:15 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:20:19 -0600 To: Bob Bishop From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: CTM is back, but... Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 10:59 AM -0600 3/9/97, Bob Bishop wrote: >Good one Richard, but what happened to src-cur.2797.gz? > > seagoon# grep '^Subject:' /var/mail/ctm > Subject: ctm-mail src-cur.2794.gz 1/1 > Subject: ctm-mail src-cur.2795.gz 1/1 > Subject: ctm-mail src-cur.2796.gz 1/1 > Subject: ctm-mail src-cur.2798.gz 1/1 > seagoon# > >It doesn't seem to be on the ftp mirrors either. It went out last night. I'll see if I can figure out how to remail it. -rw-r--r-- 1 library library 45232 Mar 7 13:15 src-cur.2795.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 library library 2162 Mar 7 13:16 src-cur.2796.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 library library 50137 Mar 8 21:08 src-cur.2797.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 library library 37603 Mar 9 08:19 src-cur.2798.gz From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 9 10:33:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04164 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04158 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id SAA17530; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 18:31:57 GMT Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 18:23:33 GMT Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 18:23:33 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Richard Wackerbarth From: Bob Bishop Subject: Now it's really back! Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk src-cur.2797.gz [presumably resent] just came in. Thanks for stepping into the breach so effectively! -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 9 11:40:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06919 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06849 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA14202 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:38:40 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id UAA05439 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:38:15 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id UAA13668; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:21:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19970309202156.04476@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:21:56 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Now it's really back! References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65,1-4,10,14-18 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2999 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Bob Bishop: > src-cur.2797.gz [presumably resent] just came in. cvs-cur is back too. Thanks Richard. -rw-r--r-- 1 daemon wheel 190322 Mar 9 16:47 cvs-cur.3113.gz -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #39: Sun Feb 2 22:12:44 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 9 12:56:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11381 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11376 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (karl@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id OAA14761 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:56:06 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.5/8.8.2) id OAA28444; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:56:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19970309145605.07984@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:56:05 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Yikes! Current / Lite2 kernel has MAJOR NFS client problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, Be EXTREMELY careful if you try to run a LITE2 kernel in an NFS environment. As it sits right now, you'll get tons of panics out of "page not present" faults in the event any executable is grabbed over NFS. I'll start looking at this if someone has an idea where it would be coming from. Is this a "dirty page" problem in that the page isn't being fetched when it should be? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, Web servers $75/mo Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 9 13:33:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13378 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13319; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA04964; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:33:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19970309133324.32875@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:33:24 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: David Lowe Cc: freebsd-bugs@freefall.freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bin/2622: syslogd '-s' behavior either broken or poorly documented References: <199703070210.SAA02342@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64_p3-9,11-13,16-17,20-23,25-27 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I believe David Lowe scribbled this message on Mar 6: > The following reply was made to PR bin/2622; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: David Lowe > > Came up with some patches to fix this (changes -s behavior and adds -n to > replace the old -s behavior)... > > use at your own risk, of course :) hmm... I don't think we should change the behavior of -s... it should be kept the same for compatibilty reasons... but we should add the new "send only" flag as something else... I'm thinking -o (output only)... but comments welcome... I'm actually interested in this patch as I have a couple diskless machines that log over the network... and I don't want them "recieving network" log messages... [patch that makes syslogd do what the man pages say deleted] -- John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 9 22:35:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08498 for current-outgoing; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [128.120.175.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08493; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:35:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (reqd-037.ucdavis.edu [128.120.251.157]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA18099; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:38:54 GMT Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id GAA13007; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:35:02 GMT Message-ID: <19970309223501.24540@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:35:01 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... References: <4821.857735697@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65_p2,4-7,10-11,15,18,21-22 Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com X-Warning: Mutt Bites! Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The lndir trick is slow, eats lots of inodes while leaving you still > dependant on your CD or NFS mounted ports tree, lndir doesn't come as > a standard component (you need to load XFree86's bin component) and > it's no longer supported by sysinstall anyway (it was too slow). If I I assume you might still support linking the distfiles though, right? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 01:46:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA07014 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07005; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:46:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA11060; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:45:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from sjx-ca21-21.ix.netcom.com(204.30.65.85) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma011057; Mon Mar 10 03:45:06 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id BAA00809; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:45:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703100945.BAA00809@baloon.mimi.com> To: obrien@NUXI.com CC: jkh@time.cdrom.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19970309223501.24540@dragon.nuxi.com> (obrien@NUXI.com) Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * > The lndir trick is slow, eats lots of inodes while leaving you still * > dependant on your CD or NFS mounted ports tree, lndir doesn't come as * > a standard component (you need to load XFree86's bin component) and * > it's no longer supported by sysinstall anyway (it was too slow). If I Yeah, I think it's a good idea. You may want to lump it with the src tarballs though (or at least warn them that the tree can GROW (in all caps) during compilation) so unsuspecting users won't say "oh, 35MB! sure, that's gonna fit in my 150MB /usr!". :) * I assume you might still support linking the distfiles though, right? That's not really necessary, bsd.port.mk looks at the cdrom first. :) Speaking of which, I assume you haven't changed this path in the latest CD, Jordan? MASTER_SITES:= file:/cdrom/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${MASTER_SITES} Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 02:46:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA10557 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 02:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10544; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 02:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA14096; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 02:42:38 -0800 (PST) To: obrien@NUXI.com cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Mar 1997 22:35:01 PST." <19970309223501.24540@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 02:42:37 -0800 Message-ID: <14082.857990557@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I assume you might still support linking the distfiles though, right? Not even necessary - check out a recent copy of bsd.ports.mk and see how the CDROM gets added to the distribution path. :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 03:16:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA12439 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12419; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA04337; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:15:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from sjx-ca21-21.ix.netcom.com(204.30.65.85) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma004329; Mon Mar 10 05:15:02 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id DAA01339; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:14:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:14:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703101114.DAA01339@baloon.mimi.com> To: gibbs@freebsd.org CC: current@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_2_2 crash From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My package building machine just crashed when I did a "sudo bash". The sudo and bash executables were on a ccd'd partition. Here's the trace: === ## echo bt | gdb -k kernel.51 vmcore.51 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 204000 current pcb at 1e7234 panic: %s: Timed-out command times out again. SCB = 0x%x #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 243 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 #1 0xf0114f72 in panic (fmt=0xf01be51f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:367 #2 0xf01bf086 in trap_fatal (frame=0xf01dce08) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:742 #3 0xf01beb74 in trap_pfault (frame=0xf01dce08, usermode=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:653 #4 0xf01be84f in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -266534896, tf_edi = -232610304, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -266482092, tf_isp = -266482128, tf_ebx = -232610816, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -232963584, tf_eax = -231311104, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -267176986, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = 0, tf_ss = -232610816}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 #5 0xf01333e6 in vget (vp=0xf222a400, lockflag=1) at ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:817 #6 0xf019d3f8 in ffs_sync (mp=0xf2213a00, waitfor=2, cred=0xf1f4c400, p=0xf01f5560) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:819 #7 0xf01348cb in sync (p=0xf01f5560, uap=0x0, retval=0x0) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:357 #8 0xf0114b7d in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:181 #9 0xf0114f72 in panic ( fmt=0xf01d74b0 "%s: Timed-out command times out again. SCB = 0x%x\n") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:367 #10 0xf01d7776 in ahc_timeout (arg=0xf21cf340) at ../../i386/scsi/aic7xxx.c:2797 #11 0xf010cb7c in softclock () at ../../kern/kern_clock.c:715 === Hope this helps. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 03:25:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA12847 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12838; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA01954; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:21:48 -0800 (PST) To: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:45:02 PST." <199703100945.BAA00809@baloon.mimi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:21:48 -0800 Message-ID: <1950.857992908@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That's not really necessary, bsd.port.mk looks at the cdrom first. :) > Speaking of which, I assume you haven't changed this path in the > latest CD, Jordan? > > MASTER_SITES:= file:/cdrom/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${MASTER_SI I'm not that stupid - I do remember this change. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 03:41:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA13723 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13716; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA24209; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:37:22 -0800 (PST) To: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:45:02 PST." <199703100945.BAA00809@baloon.mimi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:37:22 -0800 Message-ID: <24196.857993842@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yeah, I think it's a good idea. You may want to lump it with the src > tarballs though (or at least warn them that the tree can GROW (in all > caps) during compilation) so unsuspecting users won't say "oh, 35MB! > sure, that's gonna fit in my 150MB /usr!". :) Actually, that sounds like fodder for /usr/ports/README. :-) I'll commit it. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 03:47:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14100 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14089; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:47:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA08390; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:36:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from sjx-ca21-21.ix.netcom.com(204.30.65.85) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008378; Mon Mar 10 05:36:29 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id DAA01390; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:36:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:36:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703101136.DAA01390@baloon.mimi.com> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <1950.857992908@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * > That's not really necessary, bsd.port.mk looks at the cdrom first. :) * > Speaking of which, I assume you haven't changed this path in the * > latest CD, Jordan? * > * > MASTER_SITES:= file:/cdrom/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${MASTER_SI * * I'm not that stupid - I do remember this change. :-) I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was suggesting that you're stupid. ;) I was merely making sure that the path has not changed on the new CD image, because I haven't looked at 2.2-* CDs for a while. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 04:06:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15227 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15206; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA10432; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:54:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from sjx-ca21-21.ix.netcom.com(204.30.65.85) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010422; Mon Mar 10 05:54:47 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id DAA01516; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:54:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:54:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703101154.DAA01516@baloon.mimi.com> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <24196.857993842@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * > Yeah, I think it's a good idea. You may want to lump it with the src * > tarballs though (or at least warn them that the tree can GROW (in all * > caps) during compilation) so unsuspecting users won't say "oh, 35MB! * > sure, that's gonna fit in my 150MB /usr!". :) * * Actually, that sounds like fodder for /usr/ports/README. :-) * * I'll commit it. Thanks for committing it, but I don't think users can read /usr/ports/README while they are picking the distributions to install, can they? :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 04:21:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16168 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16162; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA27007; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:17:19 -0800 (PST) To: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:36:25 PST." <199703101136.DAA01390@baloon.mimi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:17:18 -0800 Message-ID: <27003.857996238@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > stupid. ;) I was merely making sure that the path has not changed on > the new CD image, because I haven't looked at 2.2-* CDs for a while. You should probably receive your 2.1.7 CD soon, which has the same layout. It's all on the 2nd CDROM, so you do unfortunately need to switch CDs for it. :( Of course, at the rate you're going, I predict that the ports collection will be a 2-CD set before the end of the year. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 04:49:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA18353 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18348; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA10535; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:38:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from sjx-ca21-21.ix.netcom.com(204.30.65.85) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010519; Mon Mar 10 06:38:00 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id EAA01658; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:37:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:37:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703101237.EAA01658@baloon.mimi.com> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <27003.857996238@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * You should probably receive your 2.1.7 CD soon, which has the same * layout. It's all on the 2nd CDROM, so you do unfortunately need to * switch CDs for it. :( Ok. * Of course, at the rate you're going, I predict that the ports * collection will be a 2-CD set before the end of the year. :-) Gee, what are we going to do when the time comes when all the distfiles don't fit on a single CD? Mandate a CD-changer? ;) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 05:21:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA19537 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19532; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA10131; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:16:55 -0800 (PST) To: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:54:18 PST." <199703101154.DAA01516@baloon.mimi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:16:53 -0800 Message-ID: <10128.857999813@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Thanks for committing it, but I don't think users can read > /usr/ports/README while they are picking the distributions to install, > can they? :) No, naturally not, but I'm hoping that at least some of them will *read* the file before they start actually using /usr/ports. :-) Even if I documented it at installation time it probably wouldn't do much good since it's still a "35MB problem" then, and by the time it becomes a "135MB problem" they're likely to have forgotten anything they ever read in sysinstall. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 06:07:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA21588 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dementia.net (feel.the.dementia.net [199.232.254.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21579 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (pitlord@localhost) by dementia.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA01024 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:08:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:08:32 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Ogren To: current@freebsd.org Subject: identd breaking in 3.0-current? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all. I just compiled a 3.0-current kernel, and it seems identd doesn't work anymore. How'd you fix this problem? Recompiling usually does the trick, but it didn't seem to this time. Do I need to do a make world? -eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Ogren | I ran out of sick days, so I called | pitlord@dementia.net, | into work dead. | pitlord@lamers.com, |--------------------------------------| pitlord@onet.ziplink.net | Visit http://www.dementia.net | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 06:50:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA24211 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from tomcat1.tbe.com (tomcat1.tbe.com [140.165.22.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA24206 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [140.165.60.174] by tomcat1.tbe.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA04002; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:43:04 -0600 X-Sender: dkelly@peecee.tbe.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:50:27 -0600 To: current@freebsd.org From: David Kelly Subject: problem moving from -current to -2.2 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On March 4 I expanded the CTM's for -2.2 in /usr/src on my early Feb -current system. Did "make world" and later rebooted. Forgot if I installed a new kernel before or after rebooting. Seems to work fine. Except: PeeCee: {285} w w: /dev// *ttyp1: No such file or directory PeeCee: {286} which w /usr/bin/w PeeCee: {287} ls -l /usr/bin/w "last" is equally mucked up. Saw some comments earlier that said wtmp's format changed. Rotated wtmp and for a while w and last worked right. Obviously I'm missing something. Searched the mail archives before mailing. Probably searching on the wrong key, "wtmp". Also searched for "lkm". Uh, should I have installed a new kernel before or after a "make world"? Should the system be single user or does it matter? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (wk), dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 08:13:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29015 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:13:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [128.120.175.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29006; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (reqb-081.ucdavis.edu [128.120.254.81]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA19430; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:17:25 GMT Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA14591; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:13:23 GMT Message-ID: <19970310081322.10520@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:13:22 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Satoshi Asami Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... References: <19970309223501.24540@dragon.nuxi.com> <199703100945.BAA00809@baloon.mimi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65_p2,4-7,10-11,15,18,21-22 Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com X-Warning: Mutt Bites! Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * I assume you might still support linking the distfiles though, right? > > That's not really necessary, bsd.port.mk looks at the cdrom first. :) Duh on me! I know this. Late night brain fart. :-( -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 08:19:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29323 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29309; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA18316; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:18:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01989; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:18:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:18:45 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Satoshi Asami cc: gibbs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_2_2 crash In-Reply-To: <199703101114.DAA01339@baloon.mimi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had a weird crash (sorry, no dump and no panic messages) recently after a short uptime with TAG, SCB_PAGE and MEMIO set for the ahc driver (this on the p6np5 board with a 3940UW.) I've since disabled MEMIO and haven't crashed since (8 days of uptime vs. < 1day with MEMIO.) -Chris From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 08:26:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29754 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain-work.iafrica.com (chain-work.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29749 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain-work.iafrica.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01627; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:26:42 +0200 (SAT) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:26:42 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: David Kelly cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem moving from -current to -2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Alternate-Address: gjjkhe01@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za X-PGP-Fingerprint: FF F9 1C B8 39 06 1E CD 60 4C E8 57 2D A3 46 E7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, David Kelly wrote: >PeeCee: {285} w >w: /dev// *ttyp1: No such file or directory >PeeCee: {286} which w >/usr/bin/w >PeeCee: {287} ls -l /usr/bin/w What I found worked for me was this : mv /usr/lib/*so* to /usr/lib/compat then ldconfig /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/X11R6/lib, etc, etc then cd /usr/src then make world then rm /usr/lib/compat then make world again then rebuild a kernel then reboot then rebuild XFree (specifically xterm and xdm) and hey presto : it worked :-) --- Khetan Gajjar [ http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan] I'm a FreeBSD User! [ http://www.freebsd.org ] PGP Key [finger khetan@chain.iafrica.com] UUNet Internet Africa [0800-030-002 & help@iafrica.com] From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 10:10:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10426 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from dopey.pathlink.com (dopey.pathlink.com [204.30.237.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10415; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dvl-1.pathlink.com (dvl-1.pathlink.com [204.30.237.241]) by dopey.pathlink.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA28598; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:11:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970310111003.00884b8c@dopey.pathlink.com> X-Sender: kachun@dopey.pathlink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:10:03 -0100 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freedbsd-scsi@freebsd.org From: Kachun Lee Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA ahc crashes Cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199703060256.TAA15170@narnia.plutotech.com>, you say... > >>After we upgraded one of news servers from 2.1.6 to 2.2-GAMMA-970225, it >>crashed with the following messages about once or twice a day during the >>past week. Any comment or suggestion? >> >>Best regards > >You are not running the latest version of 2.2-GAMMA. There have been >updates to the Adaptec driver since 2/25. Please upgrade and see if >the problem persists. >-- >Justin T. Gibbs >=========================================== > FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations >=========================================== > As I reported that even after I upgraded to 2.2-GAMMA-970302 kernel, the system still crashed, at the same time during INN expireover, with the following messages: Mar 7 08:55:14 clark /kernel: ahc0:A:5: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing ABORT Mar 7 08:55:14 clark /kernel: SAVED_TCL == 0x50 Mar 7 09:10:45 clark /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. Mar 7 09:10:45 clark /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 Mar 7 09:10:46 clark /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. Al l rights reserved. Mar 7 09:10:46 clark /kernel: Mar 7 09:10:46 clark /kernel: FreeBSD 2.2-970302-GAMMA #0: Thu Mar 6 00:54:52 PST 1997 I have since moved back to 2.1.6 and I had not crashed since. Since I can notice at least a 20% preformance improvement in 2.2, and now I saw the difference, it really border me that I had to go back to 2.1.6. Any comment will be greately appreciated. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 12:46:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA22105 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22082; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from thurston.eng.umd.edu (thurston.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.25]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24101; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:45:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by thurston.eng.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA26340; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:45:47 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: thurston.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:45:46 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@thurston.eng.umd.edu To: Satoshi Asami cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-Reply-To: <199703101237.EAA01658@baloon.mimi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * You should probably receive your 2.1.7 CD soon, which has the same > * layout. It's all on the 2nd CDROM, so you do unfortunately need to > * switch CDs for it. :( > > Ok. > > * Of course, at the rate you're going, I predict that the ports > * collection will be a 2-CD set before the end of the year. :-) > > Gee, what are we going to do when the time comes when all the > distfiles don't fit on a single CD? Mandate a CD-changer? ;) Seeing as I am aware (as most FreeBSDers are) of the enormous support that WC has given us, the idea that eventually WC might sell a completely separate CD (or set of CDs) supporting ports, either the distfiles only, or all of /usr/ports with distfiles, doesn't bother me in the least. I'd subscribe. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 12:49:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA22399 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lsmarso.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22392 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from larry@localhost) by lsmarso.dialup.access.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) id UAA29508 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:45:21 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:44:36 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Marso To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world -2.2 crashes on gdb.1 Why? Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any suggestions? ===> gnu/usr.bin/gdb/gdb make: don't know how to make gdb.1. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Regards. ---------------------------------- Larry Marso date: 10-Mar-97 Time: 15:44:36 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 12:51:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA22538 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22523 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id OAA19780 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:51:10 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:51:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from fools.ecpnet.com(204.246.64.101) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma019701; Mon, 10 Mar 97 14:50:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (moke@localhost) by fools.ecpnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA00684 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:47:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:47:17 -0600 (CST) From: Jimbo Bahooli To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: ipfilter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I saw some parts of ipfilter in the -current source code. It appears to be non-compiling from my short try at it, just what is the status on this piece of code? I am also having another problem, involving either divert sockets, or Ari Suutari's natd. A short time after starting up the natd program with the correct divert sockets created it reboots my machine. (this takes around 5-30 minutes usually). packet aliasing works flawless before this. No panic screen, core dump, or anything is generated. I would file a pr on this, but from my information I can't tell if this is a problem with the natd program, or divert sockets. These reboots happend on 2.2(3/7/97), and 3.0, (dated 2/10/97) with natd 1.3. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 13:27:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA25876 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns.pinpt.com (dns.pinpt.com [205.179.195.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA25859; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover4 (gatemaster.pinpt.com [205.179.195.65]) by dns.pinpt.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25654; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:25:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 13:26:15 Pacific Standard Time From: "Sean J. Schluntz" Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... To: Chuck Robey , Satoshi Asami Cc: current@freebsd.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, obrien@NUXI.com, ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Gee, what are we going to do when the time comes when all the > > distfiles don't fit on a single CD? Mandate a CD-changer? ;) > > Seeing as I am aware (as most FreeBSDers are) of the enormous support that > WC has given us, the idea that eventually WC might sell a completely > separate CD (or set of CDs) supporting ports, either the distfiles > only, or all of /usr/ports with distfiles, doesn't bother me in the least. > I'd subscribe. I would get a subscription to that also. -Sean ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean J. Schluntz Manager, Support Services ph. 408.997.6900 x222 PinPoint Software Corporation fx. 408.323.2300 6155 Almaden Expressway, Suite 100 San Jose, CA. 95120 http://www.pinpt.com/ Local Time Sent: 03/10/97 13:26:16 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 14:32:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03497 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03472; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id XAA00396; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:16:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) id WAA13744; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:53:11 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970310225311.21976@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:53:11 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Chris Timmons Cc: Satoshi Asami , gibbs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_2_2 crash References: <199703101114.DAA01339@baloon.mimi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64_p3-9,11-13,16-17,20-23,25-27 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-GAMMA Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 10, 1997 at 08:18:45AM -0800, Chris Timmons wrote: > > I had a weird crash (sorry, no dump and no panic messages) recently after > a short uptime with TAG, SCB_PAGE and MEMIO set for the ahc driver (this > on the p6np5 board with a 3940UW.) I've since disabled MEMIO and haven't > crashed since (8 days of uptime vs. < 1day with MEMIO.) Since some days my machine panics when I execute "reboot". I run FreeBSD 2.2 GAMMA (yesterday). Sorry, no dump and panic message. Will compile a kernel with DDB. -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 14:33:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03566 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03549 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:32:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA23714; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:22:12 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199703102222.PAA23714@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: serial driver To: vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM (Vincent Poy) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:22:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Vincent Poy" at Mar 8, 97 01:29:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Is there somewhere a list of UARTS that are good? It could get handy to > > > know when buying serial boards. > > > > The NS 16550AFC is known good. > > > > I think that's the whole list, actually. > > Actually, it went like this, 16550, 16550A, 16550AN, 16550C, > 16550CN, 16550CFN. Yes. Ignore the case designators; I have the chip in two cases. 8-). THe CFN is the one. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 14:39:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04017 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA04012 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA23772; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:31:08 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199703102231.PAA23772@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: 2 questions about C++ support in 2.2 To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:31:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <24352.857903386@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 9, 97 02:29:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > /var/tmp/cc024167.s:10678: Warning: GOT relocation burb: `_Am_Standard_Widget_Abort_Method_proc__FG9Am_Object' should be global > > 1. What the hell is a "relocation burb" and how can one avoid them? :-) It means that there is a locally scoped item in the Global Offset Table used for relocation. It thinks the export and the declarative scoping conflict. How old is your assembler? It's probably the culprit... I defer to Warner for a better analysis... (ducks and runs). > 2. Shouldn't these messages demange the symbol first, so you don't > have to hassle with c++filt? I thought we were here once before > (though probably in connection with the loader) and everyone agreed > that built-in symbol demanging was good, very user friendly and > we should all do it. Whatever happened to that idea? :-) You'd have to demange it for attribution of paramters, since you could have a conflict declaration, and if you demanged it to not show any attribution of paramters or return value, you'd never figure out where the hell you screwed up. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 14:41:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04196 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA04191 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA23787; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:33:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199703102233.PAA23787@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Yikes! Current / Lite2 kernel has MAJOR NFS client problems To: karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:33:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19970309145605.07984@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> from "Karl Denninger" at Mar 9, 97 02:56:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Be EXTREMELY careful if you try to run a LITE2 kernel in an NFS environment. > > As it sits right now, you'll get tons of panics out of "page not present" > faults in the event any executable is grabbed over NFS. > > I'll start looking at this if someone has an idea where it would be coming > from. Is this a "dirty page" problem in that the page isn't being fetched > when it should be? Look at the NFS differences for the pre-merge code vs. the Lite code that should be the first rev in the tree. Basically, the cache unification process has changes the FS/buffer interface, and you need to propagate some stuff down to the FS that NFS is a client of for it to be truly happy. The diff should pinpoint it for you. I thought John Dyson said he was already looking at this... avoid his toes if possible, I think... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 14:44:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04320 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lsmarso.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04306 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from larry@localhost) by lsmarso.dialup.access.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) id WAA05461; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:39:02 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:19:27 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Marso To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Chris Timmons , Steve Price , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thank you kindly for your rapid response time and advice. Unfortunately the following, suggested by Steve, failed: cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb make cleandir ; make depend ; make all I crashed after: <> I also tried blowing away the gnu/usr.bin/gdb level directory, then sup the sources again. No dice. Still get: << f-typeprint.o f-valprint.o nlmread.o callback.o i386-dis.o dis-buf.o disassembl e.o -L/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/gdb/../bfd -lbfd -lreadline -lgnuregex -L/usr/s rc/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/gdb/../libiberty -liberty -ltermcap -L/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gd b/gdb/../libiberty -liberty make: don't know how to make gdb.1. Stop *** Error code 2>> Guess I should take out a higher level directory, or simply resup the entire source tree? I do this at 28.8K, but it's a relatively stable connection and not a problem. Regards. ---------------------------------- Larry Marso date: 10-Mar-97 Time: 17:19:27 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 14:48:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04563 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04556 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA07326; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:46:52 -0800 (PST) To: Terry Lambert cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 questions about C++ support in 2.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:31:08 MST." <199703102231.PAA23772@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:46:52 -0800 Message-ID: <7322.858034012@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I defer to Warner for a better analysis... (ducks and runs). I was sort of hoping that Warner might help me solve it, yes.. :) > > 2. Shouldn't these messages demange the symbol first, so you don't > > have to hassle with c++filt? I thought we were here once before > > .. > > You'd have to demange it for attribution of paramters, since you > could have a conflict declaration, and if you demanged it to not > show any attribution of paramters or return value, you'd never > figure out where the hell you screwed up. 8-). I like how my own typo (demange vs demangle) was not only replicated multiple times in my own posting (I guess my eye just saw the previous instance and cloned it) but into Terry's reply as well. :-) Either that or Terry, like me, thought that "demange" was actually a far more descriptive metaphor for c++ symbol munging. If ever there was a language with a serious case of the mange, it's C++. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 15:04:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA05522 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05459 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA23847; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:55:25 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199703102255.PAA23847@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: 2 questions about C++ support in 2.2 To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:55:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7322.858034012@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 10, 97 02:46:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Either that or Terry, like me, thought that "demange" was actually a > far more descriptive metaphor for c++ symbol munging. If ever > there was a language with a serious case of the mange, it's C++. This is the interpretation I had... it's not the language, though, it's the linker technology. THere's no reason to go into the symbol name space to do symbol attribution. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 15:41:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA07696 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07689 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA14638; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:40:30 -0800 (PST) To: Terry Lambert cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 questions about C++ support in 2.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:31:08 MST." <199703102231.PAA23772@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:40:28 -0800 Message-ID: <14633.858037228@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > You'd have to demange it for attribution of paramters, since you > could have a conflict declaration, and if you demanged it to not P.S. Good point. Feh. So much for that idea. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 15:55:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08552 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:55:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08535 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA15046; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:53:53 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10759; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:48:56 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970311004856.FO30941@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:48:56 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: ben@stuyts.nl Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are multi-session cdrom's supported? References: <199703081145.MAA08495@terminus.stuyts.nl> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703081145.MAA08495@terminus.stuyts.nl>; from Ben Stuyts on Mar 8, 1997 12:43:36 +0100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ben Stuyts wrote: > I've asked this twice on freebsd-questions but got no response. Maybe > somebody here can tell me? Yes, i can. Multi-session CDs have some rudimentary support, but probably not what you want. Right now, the entire written data area of the CD is made available as /dev/[r]cd0a. Thus you also notice the correct `df' value. However, the cd9660 code simply doesn't know anything about TOCs and such, so it only reads the very first track, and thus ignores the data of the following tracks (and sessions). If you send me the CD, i promise to get support for this ready within less than 4...6 weeks. The ioctls to do this are already in place, only the hooks into the cd9660 code still need to be done. (Sorry for not offering a better timeline, but right now, getting 2.2 ready and shipping is the highest priority item, and once this is done, i've already got some other stuff in the queue that has been deferred due to 2.2.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 16:07:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09438 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09433 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA30590; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:07:28 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:07:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: Larry Marso Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > [GDB falls over with:] >make: don't know how to make gdb.1. Stop I discussed this with Joerg last week. (I picked on Joerg because he so brazenly posted how we were supposed to solve this.) Here's my observation. The people with the whole CVS tree seem to be able to compile this willy-nilly. Those of us that just get a src tree (/usr/src) and 'make world' are missing the following files: gdb.1 gdbinst.texinfo The way I solved this and managed to get 'make world' to run to completion was to copy my old gdb.1 to wherever make wants it to be, then gdbinst.info to ... ah ... contrib/gdb/doc/gdbint.info. These things aren't making it to the unwashed masses from the CVSup mirrors. I don't know why. I killed gdb in contrib and in gnu/usr.bin as well. I also blew away my obj directory. This does not solve the problem, which is these files aren't being downloaded. Someone who understands CVS could probably couch this in the appropriate lingo ... but I've talked with Nate and Joerg on this, and they both have the CVS tree and both have these files. I don't. Good luck and godspeed... Brian From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 16:25:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11365 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11360 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA17694; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:24:56 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199703110024.BAA17694@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. In-Reply-To: from Larry Marso at "Mar 10, 97 05:19:27 pm" To: lsmarso@panix.com (Larry Marso) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:24:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > b/gdb/../libiberty -liberty > make: don't know how to make gdb.1. Stop > *** Error code 2>> This usually means, that gdb.1 is missing from your source distribution. It is supposed to be in /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb/gdb.1 So ... check if it is there. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 17:04:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13867 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13853 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA11304; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:32:55 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703110102.LAA11304@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: serial driver In-Reply-To: <199703102226.PAA23748@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Mar 10, 97 03:26:01 pm" To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:32:54 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee, terry@lambert.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > > I have no idea why Terry completely ignores me when I tell him that > > the current 16550 from NS is the PC16550D. It works. > > A two day lag is hardly ignoring you... in any case, that's just the > new number for the AFN, right? 1) I have been trying to get your attention about the PC16550D for at least twelve, and possibly as long as eighteen months. 2) No. > > UARTs from TI and Startech have shown themselves to work quite well > > too. > > Part numbers? I've heard this from other people, but no one gives > part numbers... Bruce has reported that the early 16650's (TI parts AFAIK) have bugs in their hardware flowcontrol, however I believe that their 16550 emulation is adequately functional. Later parts (eg. the 16750) appear to work OK, but without a local supplier to obtain samples from I can't be certain. Startech's part is the ST16C550CP40; all you had to do was ask... (Suffix is IP40 for the industrial-grade part.) > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 17:40:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16907 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16896; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA22314; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:40:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05072; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:40:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:40:13 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: "Brian N. Handy" cc: Larry Marso , current@freebsd.org, hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You know, this may have something to do with the CVS repository fixup Peter Wemm has done in the last several weeks and the fact that some people may not have the most recent version of CVSup. John Polstra mentioned that this could be a problem due to bugs in releases prior to 14.1.1 of CVSup. SO, if you are seeing odd problems with CVSup, and don't have the most recent version: opus:/var/tmp> cvsup -v CVSup client Software version: REL_14_1_1 Protocol version: 14.0 Then get it! ftp://freefall.freebsd.org/pub/CVSup/cvsup-bin-14.1.1.tar.gz And PARTICULARLY CRITICAL is that all of the mirrors are running the corresponding cvsupd, but I don't think JDP would head out on vacation if that weren't the case. -Chris On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Brian N. Handy wrote: > > > [GDB falls over with:] > > >make: don't know how to make gdb.1. Stop > > > I discussed this with Joerg last week. (I picked on Joerg because he so > brazenly posted how we were supposed to solve this.) > > Here's my observation. > > The people with the whole CVS tree seem to be able to compile this > willy-nilly. > > Those of us that just get a src tree (/usr/src) and 'make world' are > missing the following files: > > gdb.1 > gdbinst.texinfo > > The way I solved this and managed to get 'make world' to run to completion > was to copy my old gdb.1 to wherever make wants it to be, then > gdbinst.info to ... ah ... contrib/gdb/doc/gdbint.info. > > These things aren't making it to the unwashed masses from the CVSup > mirrors. I don't know why. I killed gdb in contrib and in gnu/usr.bin as > well. I also blew away my obj directory. This does not solve the > problem, which is these files aren't being downloaded. > > Someone who understands CVS could probably couch this in the appropriate > lingo ... but I've talked with Nate and Joerg on this, and they both have > the CVS tree and both have these files. I don't. > > Good luck and godspeed... > > Brian > From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 17:52:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17676 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17666 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id UAA14436; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:50:58 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199703110150.UAA14436@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Yikes! Current / Lite2 kernel has MAJOR NFS client problems To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:50:57 -0500 (EST) Cc: karl@Mcs.Net, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199703102233.PAA23787@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Mar 10, 97 03:33:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I thought John Dyson said he was already looking at this... avoid his > toes if possible, I think... > Feel free to step on them, but I'll be getting a 2nd machine running soon and then will be able to test/debug and perhaps support the NFS code. Right now, I am not able to do much though, so if anyone wants to take a stab at it, feel free to ask me for reviews, etc. I really don't mind if people "step on my toes." :-) John From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 18:02:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18103 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA18086; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA07571; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:00:45 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:00:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: Chris Timmons Cc: Larry Marso , current@freebsd.org, hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Chris Timmons wrote: >You know, this may have something to do with the CVS repository fixup >Peter Wemm has done in the last several weeks and the fact that some >people may not have the most recent version of CVSup. John Polstra >mentioned that this could be a problem due to bugs in releases prior to >14.1.1 of CVSup. # ./cvsup -v CVSup client Software version: REL_14_1_1 Protocol version: 14.0 # Actually as I had recalled it the cvsup changes were mostly to the server, not the client. At any rate, I still get the same error with gdb.1 not being found. (Again I just blasted away all the gdb stuff in my tree, re-cvsupped it and ... bleah.) Brian From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 18:46:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20138 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20132 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org by agora.rdrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0w4HZ2-00092bC; Mon, 10 Mar 97 18:45 PST Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA04615 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:40:41 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:40:41 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading to 2.2-GAMMA with sources... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I just hit a snag that is most likely "you forgot to recompile *something*", but not sure which. I get the following when trying to compile the kernel itself, after downloading the sources from the 2.2-GAMMA directory on ftp.freebsd.org. hub# make cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DNSWAPDEV=10 -DFFS -DINET -DCOMPAT_43 -DKERNEL ../../i386/i386/locore.s ../../i386/i386/locore.s: Assembler messages: ../../i386/i386/locore.s:705: Error: bad register name ('%cr4') ../../i386/i386/locore.s:707: Error: bad register name ('%cr4') *** Error code 1 Stop. Can someone point out what I've missed here? :( gcc -v shows 2.7.2.1, if that helps any... Thanks... From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 19:22:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21978 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from intercore.com (num1sun.intercore.com [199.181.243.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21961; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (robin@localhost) by intercore.com (8.7.1/8.6.4) id WAA11344; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:13:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703110313.WAA11344@intercore.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:13:02 -0500 From: robin@intercore.com (Robin Cutshaw) To: current@freebsd.org Cc: jkh@freebsd.org Subject: one little 2.2 install problem X-Mailer: Mutt 0.47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What's the difference between option 9-"Root Passowrd" and option S-"Set Root Password" in the post configuration menu? :-) robin -- ---- Robin Cutshaw internet: robin@interlabs.com robin@intercore.com Internet Labs, Inc. BellNet: 404-817-9787 robin@XFree86.Org "Time is just one damn thing after another" -- PBS/Nova ---- -- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 19:43:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23210 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [206.222.77.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23189; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA04972; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:36:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:36:31 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Mayo To: "Brian N. Handy" cc: Chris Timmons , Larry Marso , current@freebsd.org, hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. / 2.2 no go.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Brian N. Handy wrote: > On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Chris Timmons wrote: > > >You know, this may have something to do with the CVS repository fixup > >Peter Wemm has done in the last several weeks and the fact that some > >people may not have the most recent version of CVSup. John Polstra > >mentioned that this could be a problem due to bugs in releases prior to > >14.1.1 of CVSup. > > # ./cvsup -v > CVSup client > Software version: REL_14_1_1 > Protocol version: 14.0 > # > > Actually as I had recalled it the cvsup changes were mostly to the server, > not the client. At any rate, I still get the same error with gdb.1 not > being found. (Again I just blasted away all the gdb stuff in my tree, > re-cvsupped it and ... bleah.) I have the exact same problem.. cvsup 14.1.1, no gdb. in /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb If it isn't working soon, I'm just going to copy the darn things from my existing /usr/local/man directory... It's certainly curious why people getting just the src tree aren't getting the right files, whereas the those folks grabbing the entire CVS get them.. Bummer. -Mark > > Brian > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com RingZero Comp. http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GCS/O d- s+ a-- C++ UB+++$ P+ L- E--- W++ N+ K- w++(---) O- M- !V PS+ PE Y++ PGP+ t !5 X+ R- tv b++ DI+ D++ G+ e+(*) h--- r++ y+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Typically, I don't use JAVA -- I think that strong typing is for weak minds (and lazy compiler/interpreter writers)." -- Terry Lambert From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 19:51:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23669 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23645; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA06351; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 05:49:09 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199703110349.FAA06351@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. In-Reply-To: from "Brian N. Handy" at "Mar 10, 97 06:00:45 pm" To: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com (Brian N. Handy) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 05:49:09 +0200 (SAT) Cc: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, lsmarso@panix.com, current@freebsd.org, hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Chris Timmons wrote: > > >You know, this may have something to do with the CVS repository fixup > >Peter Wemm has done in the last several weeks and the fact that some > >people may not have the most recent version of CVSup. John Polstra > >mentioned that this could be a problem due to bugs in releases prior to > >14.1.1 of CVSup. > > # ./cvsup -v > CVSup client > Software version: REL_14_1_1 > Protocol version: 14.0 > # > > Actually as I had recalled it the cvsup changes were mostly to the server, > not the client. At any rate, I still get the same error with gdb.1 not > being found. (Again I just blasted away all the gdb stuff in my tree, > re-cvsupped it and ... bleah.) > And have you blasted away your /usr/obj directory? More specificly the .depend files? John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 19:54:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23839 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23820; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA22840; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:54:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA05579; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:54:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:53:59 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Mark Mayo cc: "Brian N. Handy" , peter@freebsd.org, Larry Marso , current@freebsd.org, hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. / 2.2 no go.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could not generate edits for src/contrib/gdb/gdb/gdb.1,v 1.2 -> 1.1.1.1: 29: Non-existent revision number 1.2 -- attempting full checkout There is definately something funny going on as I can see these messages in the cvsupd.log file. I really think it has to do with how CVSup dealt with some of the repository clean-up work done recently. John felt confident that 14.1.1. could handle it, but this might be a little problem even he missed. He will be back later this week, so until then I'm afraid everyone will have to 'do what ya gotta do'.... Sorry I can't be any more help than that :( -Chris On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Mark Mayo wrote: > On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Brian N. Handy wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Chris Timmons wrote: > > > > >You know, this may have something to do with the CVS repository fixup > > >Peter Wemm has done in the last several weeks and the fact that some > > >people may not have the most recent version of CVSup. John Polstra > > >mentioned that this could be a problem due to bugs in releases prior to > > >14.1.1 of CVSup. > > > > # ./cvsup -v > > CVSup client > > Software version: REL_14_1_1 > > Protocol version: 14.0 > > # > > > > Actually as I had recalled it the cvsup changes were mostly to the server, > > not the client. At any rate, I still get the same error with gdb.1 not > > being found. (Again I just blasted away all the gdb stuff in my tree, > > re-cvsupped it and ... bleah.) > > I have the exact same problem.. cvsup 14.1.1, no gdb. in > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb > > If it isn't working soon, I'm just going to copy the darn things from my > existing /usr/local/man directory... > > It's certainly curious why people getting just the src tree aren't getting > the right files, whereas the those folks grabbing the entire CVS get > them.. Bummer. > > -Mark > > > > > Brian > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com > RingZero Comp. http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > GCS/O d- s+ a-- C++ UB+++$ P+ L- E--- W++ N+ K- w++(---) O- M- !V PS+ PE Y++ > PGP+ t !5 X+ R- tv b++ DI+ D++ G+ e+(*) h--- r++ y+ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Typically, I don't use JAVA -- I think that strong typing > is for weak minds (and lazy compiler/interpreter writers)." > -- Terry Lambert > From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 22:31:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00304 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:31:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00299 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id WAA01540 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:31:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:31:29 -0800 (PST) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199703110631.WAA01540@time.cdrom.com> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2 build now falling over.. Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ===> bin/date cc -O2 -pipe -c /usr/src/bin/date/date.c cc -O2 -pipe -c /usr/src/bin/date/netdate.c cc -O2 -pipe -static -o date date.o netdate.o -lutil res_send.o: Undefined symbol `_res_close' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. What did somebody do now? :-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 22:33:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00462 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00454; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA01566; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:33:32 -0800 (PST) To: robin@intercore.com (Robin Cutshaw) cc: current@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: one little 2.2 install problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:13:02 EST." <199703110313.WAA11344@intercore.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:33:31 -0800 Message-ID: <1562.858062011@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What's the difference between option 9-"Root Passowrd" and option > S-"Set Root Password" in the post configuration menu? :-) Uhh.. Nothing. Whoops! :-) Thanks, fixed. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 23:19:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA02595 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA02588 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:19:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id IAA02020 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:01:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) id HAA23316; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:52:31 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970311075230.28504@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:52:30 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_2_2 crash References: <199703101114.DAA01339@baloon.mimi.com> <19970310225311.21976@klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64_p3-9,11-13,16-17,20-23,25-27 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-GAMMA Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 10, 1997 at 10:53:11PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > Since some days my machine panics when I execute "reboot". > I run FreeBSD 2.2 GAMMA (yesterday). > Sorry, no dump and panic message. Will compile a kernel with DDB. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode PID 1100 reboot I had trouble to get kgdb working, the vmcore file in /var/crash wasn't recognized by kgdb for unknown reason ... Yesterday it was too late for me to do further investigation. Someone else with strange reboot problems ??? BTW, when being in DDB I noticed only 4 or 5 processes in the process list. One was mount_mfs ... could that perhaps be the culprit ... ? Well, will look for it in the evening ... -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 10 23:57:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04784 for current-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04779 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id CAA15636; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:56:51 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199703110756.CAA15636@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Upgrading to 2.2-GAMMA with sources... To: scrappy@hub.org (The Hermit Hacker) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:56:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "The Hermit Hacker" at Mar 10, 97 10:40:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi... > > I just hit a snag that is most likely "you forgot to recompile > *something*", but not sure which. > > I get the following when trying to compile the kernel itself, > after downloading the sources from the 2.2-GAMMA directory on ftp.freebsd.org. > > hub# make > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DNSWAPDEV=10 -DFFS -DINET -DCOMPAT_43 -DKERNEL ../../i386/i386/locore.s > ../../i386/i386/locore.s: Assembler messages: > ../../i386/i386/locore.s:705: Error: bad register name ('%cr4') > ../../i386/i386/locore.s:707: Error: bad register name ('%cr4') > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Can someone point out what I've missed here? :( gcc -v shows > 2.7.2.1, if that helps any... > You need a new version of as... John From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 00:04:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05177 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org ([207.107.138.222]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05172 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id EAA09719; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:04:33 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:04:33 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "John S. Dyson" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading to 2.2-GAMMA with sources... In-Reply-To: <199703110756.CAA15636@dyson.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, John S. Dyson wrote: > > Stop. > > > > Can someone point out what I've missed here? :( gcc -v shows > > 2.7.2.1, if that helps any... > > > You need a new version of as... > Guess there is no easy way of fixing this, eh? You can't do a make world to upgrade the kernel, but, in some cases, you can't upgrade the kernel without upgrading somethign else first. In this case, as...but, to upgrade as, I had to upgrade /usr/share/mk first... *shrug* oh well...back to the grind... From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 00:18:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05556 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (metriclient-6.uoregon.edu [128.223.172.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05550 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA12361; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:18:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19970311001806.10104@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:18:06 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: FreeBSD Current Subject: problems with bsd.info.mk not making the compressed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64_p3-9,11-13,16-17,20-23,25-27 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having troubles getting make all to make the compressed version of the info files... My environment is really messed up... I'm running 2.2-960801-SNAP... but I've rebuilt and installed texinfo (for install-info and friends), make, expr, sh, and test... and it still doesn't want to make the gz versions... if I type them manually like make infofile.gz, it will make the file... and yes... I'm not defining NOINFOCOMPRESS... I've confired it with a make -dA 2>&1 | grep COMPRESS | more... any help would be great... and yes... I know I need to upgrade the system.. :) -- John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 00:21:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05659 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05654 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:21:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA24128 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:20:59 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA05915; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:53:26 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970311085325.OP58394@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:53:25 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Chris Timmons on Mar 10, 1997 17:40:13 -0800 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Chris Timmons wrote: > You know, this may have something to do with the CVS repository fixup > Peter Wemm has done in the last several weeks and the fact that some > people may not have the most recent version of CVSup. Ah, no, this was the $FreeBSD$ backout. Some of the files had versions removed (so they went back onto the vendor branch where they came from), and earlier CVSups didn't expect this roll-back. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 00:21:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05681 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05672 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA24135; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:21:18 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05950; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:04:16 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970311090416.WO25055@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:04:16 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: scrappy@hub.org (The Hermit Hacker) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading to 2.2-GAMMA with sources... References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Mar 10, 1997 22:40:41 -0400 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As The Hermit Hacker wrote: > I just hit a snag that is most likely "you forgot to recompile > *something*", but not sure which. > ../../i386/i386/locore.s: Assembler messages: ^^^^^^^^^ That's your guy. Recompile and reinstall as(1). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 00:21:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05725 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05718 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA24141 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:21:43 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05992; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:17:18 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970311091718.RY23587@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:17:18 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. / 2.2 no go.. References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Mark Mayo on Mar 10, 1997 22:36:31 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Mark Mayo wrote: > I have the exact same problem.. cvsup 14.1.1, no gdb. in > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb For some reason, the CVSup master must have dropped these two files. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 01:32:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA09199 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA09189; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA05028 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:19:59 +0300 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 11 Mar 97 12:19:59 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00612; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:19:35 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:19:31 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: brian@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-current , brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk Subject: ppp & signals pending Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian, here some thoughts about signals pending in ppp and possible restoring your sig.c functionality: All signals separated by following categories: 1) Fatal signals which can't be pended (they was pended in old version which cause dead loop). 2) SIGALRM can be pended with great care, there is too many functions (lqr, fsm, ...) which assume that they called via regular intervals (f.e. "... send LQR every %d.%d secs"). Time difference between pended SIGALRM and not pended variant must be not greater then minimal accuracy expected. This things are relatively hard to control and measure, that is why I prefer not pend SIGALRM at all and remove sig.c code instead of fixing it, but if you can show that needed accuracy is reached, you can restore pending of SIGALRM back. 3) Other signals can be pended safely (including kill signals), but only for main loop, not for execv (they was pended for execv in old variant, also it looks like cosmetique thing with current implementation). -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 02:08:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA10731 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA10725 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:08:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA13142 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:47:14 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 11 Mar 97 12:47:14 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00701; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:45:59 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:45:56 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Brian Somers Cc: Brian Somers , FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: ppp In-Reply-To: <199703110812.IAA12464@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > Right, but as I pointed out, just about anything that uses Log* will > call LogFlush() and malloc(), and malloc() isn't necessarily the only > problem - there are almost definitely other recursion suseptable > functions running around too, ones that aren't nice enought to tell us > when they can't handle things. I suggest we put back the pending > stuff in all cases except SIGSEGV (which we don't trap). With the > usage of the "caused" variable in handle_signals fixed (I agree, that > was a pretty terrible mistake), there should not be any other > problems. Few minutes ago I send you message with subject "ppp & signals pending" not seeing this your message... Please don't miss it, here I explain my position mainly about SIGALRM and its pending. To summarize it I can say that I agree with restoring pending for SIGALRM, but some additional measurement must be done before. > Ok, so if I put (a fixed) sig.c back in there, could I ask you to do > some testing ? I was thinking of: > > void handle_signals() { > int sig; > int had; > > had = caused; > if (had) > for (sig=0; sig<__MAXSIG; sig++) > if (had&(1< caused &= ~(1< (*handler[sig])(sig+1); > } > } This way you lost _number_ of signals which may come. Since all signals mapped to single bit in "caused" bitmask, here can be f.e. 10 or more similar signals, but only one time signal handler will be executed. You need to replace "caused" bitmask with "int caused[__MAXSIG];" and count true number of signals come: caused[sig]++ (decrease it when handler was executed: caused[sig]--). BTW, why you use own __MAXSIG when standard NSIG is available from signal.h? -- Andrey A. 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Email: Rene@ArtByMath.com Website: http://www.ArtByMath.com From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 03:14:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA15125 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 03:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15120 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 03:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id VAA09291; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:50:52 +1100 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:50:52 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703111050.VAA09291@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@nagual.ru, brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: ppp Cc: brian@utell.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Ok, so if I put (a fixed) sig.c back in there, could I ask you to do >> some testing ? I was thinking of: >> >> void handle_signals() { >> int sig; >> int had; >> >> had = caused; >> if (had) >> for (sig=0; sig<__MAXSIG; sig++) >> if (had&(1<> caused &= ~(1<> (*handler[sig])(sig+1); >> } >> } > >This way you lost _number_ of signals which may come. Since all signals >mapped to single bit in "caused" bitmask, here can be f.e. 10 or more >similar signals, but only one time signal handler will be executed. You >need to replace "caused" bitmask with "int caused[__MAXSIG];" and count >true number of signals come: caused[sig]++ (decrease it when handler was >executed: caused[sig]--). Generally you don't care and can't tell exactly how many signals occurred (the system doesn't count them). One exception might be if SIGALRM is pended and there is too large a latrency before unpending. Then counting could be used to tell how many SIGALRMs were mishandled :-). The main problems here are: 1. the code is non-portable. sigset_t might be larger than int, and not using sigset_t makes it hard to use sigprocmask(). 2. `caused &= ~(1<BTW, why you use own __MAXSIG when standard >NSIG is available from signal.h? NSIG is nonstandard. The only standard way to tell how many signals there are is to call sigisvalid() for all reasonable signal numbers, attempting to avoid bugs in sigisvalid() (see cvs/lib/sighandle.c). For a general signal catcher you can just use the maximum of all the signal numbers that you are catching. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 06:36:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA06548 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA06502 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA20211 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:05:13 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 11 Mar 97 17:05:12 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00531; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:47:08 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:47:02 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Bruce Evans Cc: brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp In-Reply-To: <199703111050.VAA09291@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Bruce Evans wrote: > >This way you lost _number_ of signals which may come. Since all signals > >mapped to single bit in "caused" bitmask, here can be f.e. 10 or more > >similar signals, but only one time signal handler will be executed. You > >need to replace "caused" bitmask with "int caused[__MAXSIG];" and count > >true number of signals come: caused[sig]++ (decrease it when handler was > >executed: caused[sig]--). > > Generally you don't care and can't tell exactly how many signals occurred > (the system doesn't count them). One exception might be if SIGALRM is > pended and there is too large a latrency before unpending. Then counting > could be used to tell how many SIGALRMs were mishandled :-). Why system? The handler count them. I.e. LQR package must be sent each 1.2 seconds. When you delay handler, you can lost signal during delayed handler processing, as result you will sent less packets then needed. With signal counting you only increase time interval, but sent exact number of packets. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 07:15:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10468 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ui-gate.utell.co.uk (ui-gate.utell.co.uk [194.200.4.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10462 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:15:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from shift.lan.awfulhak.org (shift.utell.net [97.3.0.21]) by ui-gate.utell.co.uk (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA27287; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:15:40 GMT Received: from shift.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shift.lan.awfulhak.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27630; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:17:00 GMT Message-Id: <199703111517.PAA27630@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: Brian Somers , Brian Somers , FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: ppp In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:45:56 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:17:00 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > > Right, but as I pointed out, just about anything that uses Log* will > > call LogFlush() and malloc(), and malloc() isn't necessarily the only > > problem - there are almost definitely other recursion suseptable > > functions running around too, ones that aren't nice enought to tell us > > when they can't handle things. I suggest we put back the pending > > stuff in all cases except SIGSEGV (which we don't trap). With the > > usage of the "caused" variable in handle_signals fixed (I agree, that > > was a pretty terrible mistake), there should not be any other > > problems. > > Few minutes ago I send you message with subject "ppp & signals pending" > not seeing this your message... Please don't miss it, here I explain > my position mainly about SIGALRM and its pending. To summarize it > I can say that I agree with restoring pending for SIGALRM, but some > additional measurement must be done before. I havn't seen this mail yet - I'm at work at the moment, so it'll probably be at home by the time I get there. > > Ok, so if I put (a fixed) sig.c back in there, could I ask you to do > > some testing ? I was thinking of: > > > > void handle_signals() { > > int sig; > > int had; > > > > had = caused; > > if (had) > > for (sig=0; sig<__MAXSIG; sig++) > > if (had&(1< > caused &= ~(1< > (*handler[sig])(sig+1); > > } > > } > > This way you lost _number_ of signals which may come. Since all signals > mapped to single bit in "caused" bitmask, here can be f.e. 10 or more > similar signals, but only one time signal handler will be executed. You > need to replace "caused" bitmask with "int caused[__MAXSIG];" and count > true number of signals come: caused[sig]++ (decrease it when handler was > executed: caused[sig]--). BTW, why you use own __MAXSIG when standard > NSIG is available from signal.h? Ok, I can re-produce the right number of signals. I don't know why this is really needed, but I agree that it's more correct to handle things the right number of times. The reason I used __MAXSIG was because the code wasn't written to be able to handle NSIG > 32. > -- > Andrey A. Chernov > > http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ > I'll send you a copy of the code with the above before commiting. I'd be grateful if you could examine it for anything horrible. I'll read your other mail first. Thanks. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 07:17:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10600 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10592 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id CAA17912; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:13:14 +1100 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:13:14 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703111513.CAA17912@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@nagual.ru, bde@zeta.org.au Subject: Re: ppp Cc: brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Generally you don't care and can't tell exactly how many signals occurred >> (the system doesn't count them). One exception might be if SIGALRM is >> pended and there is too large a latrency before unpending. Then counting >> could be used to tell how many SIGALRMs were mishandled :-). > >Why system? The handler count them. I.e. LQR package must be sent each 1.2 >seconds. When you delay handler, you can lost signal during delayed All systems. The kernel doesn't count signals, so if ppp isn't run for more than 1.2 seconds then it will miss some alarms. However, this probably isn't important since it will miss much more than alarms :-). There may be problems with closer-spaced alarms if ppp wants to count them. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 07:43:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13035 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ui-gate.utell.co.uk (ui-gate.utell.co.uk [194.200.4.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12997 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from shift.lan.awfulhak.org (shift.utell.net [97.3.0.21]) by ui-gate.utell.co.uk (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA27855; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:43:14 GMT Received: from shift.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shift.lan.awfulhak.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27686; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:44:35 GMT Message-Id: <199703111544.PAA27686@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bruce Evans cc: ache@nagual.ru, brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ppp In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:50:52 +1100." <199703111050.VAA09291@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: brian@utell.co.uk Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:44:35 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Generally you don't care and can't tell exactly how many signals occurred > (the system doesn't count them). One exception might be if SIGALRM is > pended and there is too large a latrency before unpending. Then counting > could be used to tell how many SIGALRMs were mishandled :-). > > The main problems here are: > 1. the code is non-portable. sigset_t might be larger than int, and not > using sigset_t makes it hard to use sigprocmask(). > 2. `caused &= ~(1< blocked when `caused' is changed. > 3. Some signals should probably be blocked when the handler is called. > See Andrey's old mail. > 4. Perhaps there should a loop to handle signals that arrive after `had' > is initialized. This depends on how long you can afford to wait > before the next call to handle signals. Some locking may be required. > [.....] > Bruce &= ~ isn't guaranteed atomic ? Yeuch. I'd tend to go with Andrey's suggestion that I use an int array rather than a bit array. I assume that ++ and -- are guaranteed to be atomic (if they're not, I'm in *lots* of trouble). This should solve the above. The process loop will look something like: extern int ncaused; /* The cumulative number of signals caused */ int sig; while (ncaused) { for (sig = 0; sig < __MAXSIG; sig++) if (caused[sig]) { ncaused--; caused[sig]--; (*handler[sig])(sig+1); } } The actual signal trap would of course increment caused[n] and ncaused. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 07:59:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14502 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14497; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA09750; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:59:32 -0800 (PST) To: Eivind Eklund cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Mar 1997 14:23:27 +0100." <3.0.32.19970307142325.00ce8210@dimaga.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:59:30 -0800 Message-ID: <9736.858095970@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > CTM/sup/CVSup is one of the things that really set FreeBSD apart. It would > be a Good Thing to make it more accessible; I at least want as many people > as possible to run it, as they'll never go back to anything less than daily > upgrades :) Well, for this I've always envisioned something a little bit different in the standard Distributions menu for the future. Say you select "source" and that brings you to a submenu saying: [ ] I want the CVS repository, with all source information. [ ] I want just the sources for this version of FreeBSD. [ ] I want to unpack a static source tree from the distribution. [ ] I want a constant "live feed" for this source tree via CTM. [ ] I would prefer to update it at will with CVSup. And depending on what you choose, you get tossed into another area of Q&A about where you want to receive the CTM updates or where the CVSup files should go, etc and so forth, and it's all automated. Once the user has chosen which "source program" to apply for, the updates just happen automagically from then on out. That's the way I'd like it to be, anyhow, but unfortunately all of that also takes time and work, too... Heck, it took me over two years just to get a registration screen into sysinstall. I don't see an immediate opportunity for adding easy automated source tracking. :-) Jordan P.S. That's also my sneaky way of saying that if anyone else had a penchant for hacking this sort of thing into sysinstall, I'd be more than happy to point them in the right directions. :) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 08:18:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA15916 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA15894 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA29163 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:42:30 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:42:30 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01018; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:42:02 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:41:59 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Bruce Evans Cc: brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp In-Reply-To: <199703111513.CAA17912@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Bruce Evans wrote: > All systems. The kernel doesn't count signals, so if ppp isn't run for > more than 1.2 seconds then it will miss some alarms. However, this probably > isn't important since it will miss much more than alarms :-). There may be > problems with closer-spaced alarms if ppp wants to count them. The big difference here is pended (delayed) and not pended signals handling. PPP code was written in assumptions that SIGALRM reaction is not delayed, so if we trust developer, he choose timeout + handler action in the way that signals not missed. If we delay signals reaction with pending, we increase probaility for signals missing and must count them to be shure. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 08:19:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16019 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA16014 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA29156 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:42:29 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:42:29 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01009; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:36:15 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:36:09 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Brian Somers Cc: Brian Somers , Brian Somers , FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: ppp In-Reply-To: <199703111517.PAA27630@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > Few minutes ago I send you message with subject "ppp & signals pending" > > not seeing this your message... Please don't miss it, here I explain > > my position mainly about SIGALRM and its pending. To summarize it > > I can say that I agree with restoring pending for SIGALRM, but some > > additional measurement must be done before. > > I havn't seen this mail yet - I'm at work at the moment, so it'll probably > be at home by the time I get there. You can find its copy in current@freebsd.org list. > Ok, I can re-produce the right number of signals. I don't know > why this is really needed, but I agree that it's more correct to > handle things the right number of times. If one packet must be sent on each alarm tick (LQR packets), it is needed to keep proper amount of them. > The reason I used __MAXSIG was because the code wasn't written to > be able to handle NSIG > 32. As Bruce points, NSIG is not standard too, but it is at least BSDsm. If "caused" will be array of ints instead of bitmask, it will be more portable and no 32bits in long / 32 signals assumptions. > I'll send you a copy of the code with the above before > commiting. I'd be grateful if you could examine it for > anything horrible. Ok. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 08:23:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16546 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16532 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id DAA20223; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:16:27 +1100 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:16:27 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703111616.DAA20223@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, brian@shift.lan.awfulhak.org Subject: Re: ppp Cc: ache@nagual.ru, brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >&= ~ isn't guaranteed atomic ? Yeuch. I'd tend to go with Andrey's Nothing is guaranteed to be atomic in C. The closest it gets is objects of type sig_atomic_t, which can safely be set (but not read) in signal handlers. >suggestion that I use an int array rather than a bit array. I assume >that ++ and -- are guaranteed to be atomic (if they're not, I'm in *lots* >of trouble). No, ++ and -- guaranteed to be atomic. They are good candidates for splitting up into read/modify/write so that they can be pipelined better. In practice, the i386 version of gcc is usually too stupid to do this. The kernel handles the corresponding problems for interrupts by using assembler code to get instructions that are known to be atomic. It could also use some form of locking, but locking tends to be slower. Kernel locking using splhigh()/splx() corresponds exactly to sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK...)/sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK...). Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 08:40:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17674 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ui-gate.utell.co.uk (ui-gate.utell.co.uk [194.200.4.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17658 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from shift.lan.awfulhak.org (shift.utell.net [97.3.0.21]) by ui-gate.utell.co.uk (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28986; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:39:49 GMT Received: from shift.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shift.lan.awfulhak.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27876; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:41:10 GMT Message-Id: <199703111641.QAA27876@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bruce Evans cc: ache@nagual.ru, brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:16:27 +1100." <199703111616.DAA20223@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:41:10 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >&= ~ isn't guaranteed atomic ? Yeuch. I'd tend to go with Andrey's > > Nothing is guaranteed to be atomic in C. The closest it gets is > objects of type sig_atomic_t, which can safely be set (but not read) > in signal handlers. Oh boy, I've written *lots* of code in the past that assumes ++ and -- to be atomic - I kinda assumed that it had to reduce to an inc or dec, but then, I've seen some of the assembler output by gcc before - and it's the best compiler I've seen. Oh well, you learn something new..... > >suggestion that I use an int array rather than a bit array. I assume > >that ++ and -- are guaranteed to be atomic (if they're not, I'm in *lots* > >of trouble). > > No, ++ and -- guaranteed to be atomic. They are good candidates for > splitting up into read/modify/write so that they can be pipelined better. > In practice, the i386 version of gcc is usually too stupid to do this. > > The kernel handles the corresponding problems for interrupts by using > assembler code to get instructions that are known to be atomic. It > could also use some form of locking, but locking tends to be slower. > Kernel locking using splhigh()/splx() corresponds exactly to > sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK...)/sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK...). > > Bruce I think the sigprocmask stuff is impractical. It would take a relatively long time to SIG_BLOCK all the signals before altering caused each time. I'll do without. The only thing that can happen as a result is a lost signal, and that's what I'd get on a slow machine anyway. At least the code will be handling practically all latencies introduced by the pending signal. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 08:53:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18667 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic.follonett.no (nic.follonett.no [194.198.43.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18634 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nic.follonett.no (8.8.5/8.8.3) with UUCP id RAA24987; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:50:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from oo7 (oo7.dimaga.com [192.0.0.65]) by dimaga.com (8.7.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id RAA25181; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:55:43 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970311175431.00bf5900@dimaga.com> X-Sender: eivind@dimaga.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:54:32 +0100 To: brian@utell.co.uk From: Eivind Eklund Subject: Re: ppp Cc: Bruce Evans , ache@nagual.ru, brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 03:44 PM 3/11/97 +0000, Brian Somers wrote: >&= ~ isn't guaranteed atomic ? Yeuch. I'd tend to go with Andrey's >suggestion that I use an int array rather than a bit array. I assume >that ++ and -- are guaranteed to be atomic (if they're not, I'm in *lots* >of trouble). You're in lots of trouble. The only operation even _likely_ to be atomic is storing a word. Remember, most RISC processors can't operate on values not in registrers - thus, they need a load, an operation and a store. To give examples close to what you were asking about: /* Pseudo-C syntax. Used on some DSPs. NOTE: All = operations must have a non-dereferenced register on at least one side of the operator; all operations more complex than = must have registers on both sides (&=, +=, etc). Only the x= and = operators are allowed; certain if-goto's can also be used. */ /* var &= 0x800; */ r0 = &var; /* Variable to operate on. */ r1 = 0x800; /* Immediate value */ r2 = *r0; /* Fetch contents of variable */ r2 &= r1; /* Do operation */ *r0 = r2; /* Store result */ /* var++ */ r0 = &var; r1 = 1; r2 = *r0; r2 += r1; *r0 = r2; Of course, this is close to as nasty as they come. Most processors will let you add/and immediate values directly to registers. But they are not all, and they still don't become any more atomic than the above. Besides, even a store is not guaranteed to be atomic - a friend of mine told of a guy he studied with who had made a computer with a single instruction (add and skip if zero), clocked it at a couple of gigaherz, and proved it to be Turing complete. This could be your next port ;-) Eivind Eklund perhaps@yes.no http://maybe.yes.no/perhaps/ eivind@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 09:17:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20382 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic.follonett.no (nic.follonett.no [194.198.43.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20367; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nic.follonett.no (8.8.5/8.8.3) with UUCP id SAA25444; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:13:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from oo7 (oo7.dimaga.com [192.0.0.65]) by dimaga.com (8.7.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id SAA25410; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:18:36 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970311181724.00bf7990@dimaga.com> X-Sender: eivind@dimaga.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:17:25 +0100 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Eivind Eklund Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... Cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:59 AM 3/11/97 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: [... on source distributions in sysinstall...] >And depending on what you choose, you get tossed into another area of >Q&A about where you want to receive the CTM updates or where the CVSup >files should go, etc and so forth, and it's all automated. Once the >user has chosen which "source program" to apply for, the updates just >happen automagically from then on out. > >That's the way I'd like it to be, anyhow, but unfortunately all of >that also takes time and work, too... Heck, it took me over two years >just to get a registration screen into sysinstall. I don't see an >immediate opportunity for adding easy automated source tracking. :-) > > Jordan > >P.S. That's also my sneaky way of saying that if anyone else had a >penchant for hacking this sort of thing into sysinstall, I'd be more >than happy to point them in the right directions. :) Weren't you planning to write a replacement for sysinstall? In that case, it sounds somewhat wasteful to put that much work into it. I was thinking more along the lines of just adding a simple bindist - which I assume is fairly simple. It wouldn't be a perfect solution, but it would be better than nothing. (Patches not included as I wouldn't have the diskspace to test them.) OTOH, if you are going to keep working on the present sysinstall, I agree that something more elaborate would be nice - but do we need that if nobody has time/inclination to make it? (Yeah, I'd like to put my code a bit further along where my mouth should have been, but I have had my mouth too many places already and have to catch up with it first.) Eivind Eklund perhaps@yes.no http://maybe.yes.no/perhaps/ eivind@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 09:29:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21786 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:29:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic.follonett.no (nic.follonett.no [194.198.43.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21759 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:29:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nic.follonett.no (8.8.5/8.8.3) with UUCP id SAA25604; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:25:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from oo7 (oo7.dimaga.com [192.0.0.65]) by dimaga.com (8.7.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id SAA25564; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:31:05 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970311182952.00ca33a0@dimaga.com> X-Sender: eivind@dimaga.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:29:54 +0100 To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= From: Eivind Eklund Subject: Re: ppp Cc: Bruce Evans , brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 06:41 PM 3/11/97 +0300, =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= wrote: >On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Bruce Evans wrote: > >> All systems. The kernel doesn't count signals, so if ppp isn't run for >> more than 1.2 seconds then it will miss some alarms. However, this probably >> isn't important since it will miss much more than alarms :-). There may be >> problems with closer-spaced alarms if ppp wants to count them. > >The big difference here is pended (delayed) and not pended signals >handling. PPP code was written in assumptions that SIGALRM reaction >is not delayed, so if we trust developer, he choose timeout + handler >action in the way that signals not missed. That would surprise me. Every other 'weird' condition (like malloc returning NULL, or lines not being the apropriate length) seems to be assumed to never happen - why should we assume the signal handling was robust when nothing else is? (I'll try to finish off the patches to those problems and send to Brian Real Soon Now.) Eivind Eklund perhaps@yes.no http://maybe.yes.no/perhaps/ eivind@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 09:30:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21881 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21863 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA13477; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:29:36 -0800 (PST) To: Eivind Eklund cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:17:25 +0100." <3.0.32.19970311181724.00bf7990@dimaga.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:29:36 -0800 Message-ID: <13472.858101376@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Weren't you planning to write a replacement for sysinstall? In that case, > it sounds somewhat wasteful to put that much work into it. I was thinking Yes, I was and am, but sysinstall is still sort of the creeping undead for awhile. It works better than any of the alternatives and it's relatively easy to add new configuration screens to (the registration stuff taking me about 8 hours to slap together and finish testing, for an example) so it's still too tempting a target not to dink with. Yes, any work invested in sysinstall is also wasted work, long-term, but isn't most software right now? :-) I think if a relatively simple feature helps a lot of new users, even if it only has a 3-6 month shelf-life it's still worth the time to pop it into sysinstall. Why do you think I keep messing with the stupid thing? :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 09:32:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22249 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22224 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA23798 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:32:14 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id SAA05509 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:32:01 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id HAA20915; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:09:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19970311070904.55517@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:09:04 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading to 2.2-GAMMA with sources... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65,1-4,10,14-18 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2999 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to The Hermit Hacker: > I just hit a snag that is most likely "you forgot to recompile > *something*", but not sure which. Recompile "as". -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #39: Sun Feb 2 22:12:44 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 09:56:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24586 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tolstoy.mpd.ca (wlloyd.HIP.CAM.ORG [199.84.42.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24516; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from plato (plato.mpd.ca [206.123.11.34]) by tolstoy.mpd.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA04178; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:57:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <33259C92.6FF5@mpd.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:55:30 -0500 From: Bill Lloyd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ISDN Vendor willing to donate equipment for driver References: <199703100306.WAA12471@black.spellcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm relaying the text of a message that I received the other day. Unfortunately, I don't have the the knowledge to write a driver. I am willing however to help with testing and debugging of a driver. I also currently use ISDN. I have responded to their original request, with an offer to help locate a developer. I really hope somebody is interested in working on this. The ISDN support in FreeBSD could really use a boost. I seem to remember in previous discussions of this, the problem was finding a vendor to work with. Please contact the conpany directly if you are interested. I would guess that they are most interested in dealing with people in North America. If you contact them, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll keep canvassing the mailing lists. I think it is important that somebody follows up with them, positively or negatively. If there is somebody else who is "in charge" of this kind of thing, please let me know. You can check their equipment out at -bill Original message follows. ======= Bill, I came across your name while going through the FreeBSD documentation project. We currently have a Linux driver for our ISDN adapters and would be interested in developing same for FreeBSD. Could you let me know who the key contributors are in this area. We have equipment we could donate to this end and would be interested in hooking up with a developer interested in the project with solid experience writing network drivers for FreeBSD. We will contributed person-power to the project but are just getting started with FreeBSD and an experienced guide would be an assets. I hope you can help, and I look forward to hearing from you in the near future. PS. We are located in Toronto, Canada and a local person would be an definite asset to us (at least in the same time zone). -- Erik Petersen MediaGlobe Inc./SpellCaster Telecommunications Inc. erik@mediaglobe.com/erik@spellcast.com -- William Lloyd (wlloyd@mpd.ca) | From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 10:22:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26990 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA26974 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id TAA03800 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:22:39 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01299; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:12:11 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970311191211.UO03451@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:12:11 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp References: <199703111513.CAA17912@godzilla.zeta.org.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from ??????????????? on Mar 11, 1997 18:41:59 +0300 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andrey wrote: > PPP code was written in assumptions that SIGALRM reaction > is not delayed, so if we trust developer, he choose timeout + handler > action in the way that signals not missed. The PPP developer however did *way* too many things inside his signal handlers. Remember, signal handlers are not running in normal process context. It's always a good idea to restrict your doing inside the handler to the absolutely necessary minimum. Sending packets and shuffling large amounts of data does certainly not belong to this category. This PPP state machine would probably benefit from a multithreaded implementation. I'm afraid the FreeBSD camp lacks enough clueful developers for such an implementation, however. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 10:25:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27241 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27236 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA04854; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:26:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <199703111826.KAA04854@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-Reply-To: <13472.858101376@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 11, 97 09:29:36 am" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:26:34 -0800 (PST) Cc: eivind@dimaga.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Jordan K. Hubbard: > > Weren't you planning to write a replacement for sysinstall? In that case, > > it sounds somewhat wasteful to put that much work into it. I was thinking > > Yes, I was and am, but sysinstall is still sort of the creeping undead > for awhile. It works better than any of the alternatives and it's > relatively easy to add new configuration screens to (the registration > stuff taking me about 8 hours to slap together and finish testing, for > an example) so it's still too tempting a target not to dink with. > > Yes, any work invested in sysinstall is also wasted work, long-term, > but isn't most software right now? :-) I think if a relatively simple > feature helps a lot of new users, even if it only has a 3-6 month > shelf-life it's still worth the time to pop it into sysinstall. > Why do you think I keep messing with the stupid thing? :-) > Heroin, cocaine, morphine, sysinstall. As the medics carted Jordan off to the clinic, a faint voice was heard chanting the mantra "Just one more fix, and I'll quit." -- Steve From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 10:30:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27597 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27550 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA14288 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:07:12 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 11 Mar 97 21:07:11 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA00496; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:06:52 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:06:48 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Eivind Eklund Cc: Bruce Evans , brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970311182952.00ca33a0@dimaga.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Eivind Eklund wrote: > >The big difference here is pended (delayed) and not pended signals > >handling. PPP code was written in assumptions that SIGALRM reaction > >is not delayed, so if we trust developer, he choose timeout + handler > >action in the way that signals not missed. > > That would surprise me. Every other 'weird' condition (like malloc > returning NULL, or lines not being the apropriate length) seems to be > assumed to never happen - why should we assume the signal handling was > robust when nothing else is? (I'll try to finish off the patches to those > problems and send to Brian Real Soon Now.) I don't want to say that it is robust currently. I say different thing: even if we assume that it is robust, signal pending can broke it. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 11:02:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29965 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [206.222.77.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29951 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA04915; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:55:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:55:41 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Mayo To: Joerg Wunsch cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. / 2.2 no go.. In-Reply-To: <19970311091718.RY23587@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > As Mark Mayo wrote: > > > I have the exact same problem.. cvsup 14.1.1, no gdb. in > > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb > > For some reason, the CVSup master must have dropped these two files. I just grabbed the old ones from /usr/share/man/man1 and /usr/share/info and stuffed them into the appropriate contrib spots.. the quick and easy fix. It compiled no problem then. The make world only toook 2:31 this time, with an async filesystem! Wow. I remember compiling the world on my old 486 took 20 hours.. Damn these PCs are getting fast :-) -Mark > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com RingZero Comp. http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GCS/O d- s+ a-- C++ UB+++$ P+ L- E--- W++ N+ K- w++(---) O- M- !V PS+ PE Y++ PGP+ t !5 X+ R- tv b++ DI+ D++ G+ e+(*) h--- r++ y+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Typically, I don't use JAVA -- I think that strong typing is for weak minds (and lazy compiler/interpreter writers)." -- Terry Lambert From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 11:28:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02045 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co ([168.176.37.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01982; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pedro@localhost) by apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00156; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:29:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:29:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Pedro Giffuni S." To: "Sean J. Schluntz" cc: Chuck Robey , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd also subscribe, but I don't think it would be necessary, It`s absolutely normal (at least in Linux) to have 5 CD distributions. Perhaps they are a bit more expensive for those that don't want the distfiles, but I see CD's as collectable items :). Pedro. On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Sean J. Schluntz wrote: > > Seeing as I am aware (as most FreeBSDers are) of the enormous support that > > WC has given us, the idea that eventually WC might sell a completely > > separate CD (or set of CDs) supporting ports, either the distfiles > > only, or all of /usr/ports with distfiles, doesn't bother me in the least. > > I'd subscribe. > > I would get a subscription to that also. > > -Sean > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sean J. Schluntz > Manager, Support Services ph. 408.997.6900 x222 > PinPoint Software Corporation fx. 408.323.2300 > 6155 Almaden Expressway, Suite 100 > San Jose, CA. 95120 http://www.pinpt.com/ > > Local Time Sent: 03/10/97 13:26:16 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 11:31:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02303 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org ([207.107.138.222]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02296 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA13805; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:31:23 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:31:23 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Ollivier Robert cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading to 2.2-GAMMA with sources... In-Reply-To: <19970311070904.55517@keltia.freenix.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to The Hermit Hacker: > > I just hit a snag that is most likely "you forgot to recompile > > *something*", but not sure which. > > Recompile "as". of course, after upgrading /usr/share/mk...:) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 12:08:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05997 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05954 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (localhost.lan.awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06513; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:49:29 GMT Message-Id: <199703111949.TAA06513@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: brian@utell.co.uk cc: Bruce Evans , ache@nagual.ru, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ppp In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:44:35 GMT." <199703111544.PAA27686@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:49:29 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This should solve the above. The process loop will look something like: > > extern int ncaused; /* The cumulative number of signals caused */ > int sig; > > while (ncaused) { > for (sig = 0; sig < __MAXSIG; sig++) > if (caused[sig]) { > ncaused--; > caused[sig]--; > (*handler[sig])(sig+1); > } > } > > The actual signal trap would of course increment caused[n] and ncaused. Hmm, impossible to keep caused[n] and ncaused in sync. -- Brian , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 12:08:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06047 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06029; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (localhost.lan.awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06847; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:04:18 GMT Message-Id: <199703112004.UAA06847@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: brian@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: ppp & signals pending In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:19:31 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:04:18 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Brian, here some thoughts about signals pending in ppp and possible > restoring your sig.c functionality: > > All signals separated by following categories: > > 1) Fatal signals which can't be pended (they was pended in old version > which cause dead loop). Everything that's trapped with a call to Hangup() is fatal, but I suspect that HUP was causing the malloc() recursion. > 2) SIGALRM can be pended with great care, there is too many functions > (lqr, fsm, ...) which assume that they called via regular intervals (f.e. > "... send LQR every %d.%d secs"). Time difference between pended SIGALRM > and not pended variant must be not greater then minimal accuracy expected. > This things are relatively hard to control and measure, that is why I > prefer not pend SIGALRM at all and remove sig.c code instead of fixing it, > but if you can show that needed accuracy is reached, you can restore > pending of SIGALRM back. Tricky. As you say, it's difficult to test this stuff. Trying to prove it with statistics will be tricky too, AFAIK, the stdio libs won't recurse too well and they call malloc() to boot. Would you be interested if I sent you a copy of timer.c/main.c that remembers when it's called and dumps statistics on exit ? > 3) Other signals can be pended safely (including kill signals), but only > for main loop, not for execv (they was pended for execv in old variant, > also it looks like cosmetique thing with current implementation). The stuff before exec doesn't really matter - I left it pending for tidyness - it clears the caused bit/element and then calls signal(). I don't mind if this stuff stays out. > -- > Andrey A. Chernov > > http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ > > -- Brian , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 13:05:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09843 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bofh.cybercity.dk (bofh.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09824; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (phk.cybercity.dk [195.8.133.247]) by bofh.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10702; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:07:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA24440; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:07:15 +0100 (MET) To: "Pedro Giffuni S." cc: "Sean J. Schluntz" , Chuck Robey , current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting /usr/ports everywhere... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:29:08 EST." Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:07:14 +0100 Message-ID: <24438.858114434@critter.dk.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , " Pedro Giffuni S." writes: >I'd also subscribe, but I don't think it would be necessary, It`s >absolutely normal (at least in Linux) to have 5 CD distributions. Perhaps >they are a bit more expensive for those that don't want the distfiles, >but I see CD's as collectable items :). No offense intended, but It's funny how this statement reminds me of a particular episode in "Bill The InterGalactic Hero" :-) (No, I'm not going to tell you, read the book, it's the best SciFi ever written :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 13:19:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10711 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:19:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA10705; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA05175 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:13:35 +0300 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Wed, 12 Mar 97 00:13:33 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA01307; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:09:08 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:09:02 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Brian Somers Cc: brian@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: ppp & signals pending In-Reply-To: <199703112004.UAA06847@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > Everything that's trapped with a call to Hangup() is fatal, but I suspect > that HUP was causing the malloc() recursion. HUP must never come during normal mode because modem is not control terminal for PPP. PPP code strangely use every second carrier check instead of using HUP on control terminals. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 13:22:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10920 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from bofh.cybercity.dk (bofh.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10913; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (phk.cybercity.dk [195.8.133.247]) by bofh.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11113; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:24:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA24480; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:24:15 +0100 (MET) To: Brian Somers cc: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= , brian@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: ppp & signals pending In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:04:18 GMT." <199703112004.UAA06847@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:24:14 +0100 Message-ID: <24478.858115454@critter.dk.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Tricky. As you say, it's difficult to test this stuff. Trying to prove >it with statistics will be tricky too, AFAIK, the stdio libs won't >recurse too well and they call malloc() to boot. The next version of phkmalloc() will probably have a flag that will make it reentrant (by blocking signals while in malloc of course :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 15:03:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17029 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17008 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA12928 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:03:25 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04339; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:48:33 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970311234832.KY35137@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:48:32 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current) Subject: Re: ppp & signals pending References: <199703112004.UAA06847@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from ??????????????? on Mar 12, 1997 00:09:02 +0300 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As ??????????????? wrote: > HUP must never come during normal mode because modem is not control > terminal for PPP. PPP code strangely use every second carrier check > instead of using HUP on control terminals. Acquiring a controlling tty different from the current one is only possible by allocating a new session first (setsid()), which is only possible by forking first. Thus, only a true daemon can do it. IIJPPP doesn't always want to be a true daemon. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 19:00:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06481 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA06475 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA154823; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:00:42 GMT Received: from slip129-37-195-228.nc.us.ibm.net(129.37.195.228) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma5a8Dmb; Wed Mar 12 03:00:34 1997 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:02:01 -0500 (EST) From: Burley To: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: Spatter problems Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org, Rick Lotoczky Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 08-Mar-97 Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >At 7:14 AM -0600 3/8/97, Rick Lotoczky wrote: >>Hi All, >> >>Is there something worng with spatter?? > >Spatter is splat. May it RIP. >(HD failure). > >I am trying to get the files necessary to pick up >its CTM feeds for current and cvs. > >Can anyone help me get a base distribution for either >of these? You may find a lot of them at ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/bsd/CTM/FreeBSD /ports-cur they have 1778 and lower to 1400A....I hope this will help because I need my CTM tree ( the fruit is sweeter there:) E-Mail: khan@ibm.net Date: 11-Mar-97 Time: 19:09:50 ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 22:18:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA19220 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pent.ibm.net (slip129-37-195-102.nc.us.ibm.net [129.37.195.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19215 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from slip129-37-195-1.nc.us.ibm.net (ns01 [127.0.0.1]) by pent.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA12657 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:17:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703120617.BAA12657@pent.ibm.net> To: current@freebsd.org From: "Adam W. Hawks" Reply-to: awhawks@ibm.net Subject: Problem with 3.0 SNAP build Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:17:42 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I posted a problem with this build before and have done what was needed to get as far as release.8 in the Makefile. It is now hanging on the kernel image. It seems as if the 3.0 kernel is too large or I have a problem with my vnconfig the way it currently is setup. Any help on what could be trimmed off the kernel or how to get past the ioctl error below would be greatly appreciated. Can I just leave out stuff like ftp ppp in the boot_crunch.conf to make it smaller since I will be using it strictly to restore my system from CDROM? ----------------------Makefile error output below--------------------------- cc -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DMFS_ROOT=1440 -DNFS_NOSERVER -DMFS -DAPM_BROKEN_STATCLOCK -DFAILSAFE -DCOMPAT_43 -DCD9660 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -c vers.c loading kernel rearranging symbols text data bss dec hex 1060864 1544192 81892 2686948 28ffe4 ./dumpnlist /R/stage/boot.std/kernel > /tmp/mnt_xx/stand/symbols ./write_mfs_in_kernel /R/stage/boot.std/kernel fs-image.std kzip -v /R/stage/boot.std/kernel real kernel start address will be: 0x100000 real kernel end address will be: 0x38ffe4 kzip data start address will be: 0x27c904 kzip data end address will be: 0x397f90 sh -e /usr/src/release/doFS.sh /R/stage /mnt 1440 /R/stage/boot.std 100000 fd1440 ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device Warning: Block size restricts cylinders per group to 11. /dev/rvn0c: 2400 sectors in 1 cylinders of 1 tracks, 2400 sectors 1.2MB in 1 cyl groups (11 c/g, 12.89MB/g, 128 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32, /mnt: write failed, file system is full cpio: write error: No space left on device *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Thanks in advance Adam W. Hawks awhawks@ibm.net From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 11 23:53:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA23430 for current-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23407; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id IAA09250; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:17:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) id IAA02614; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:01:18 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970312080118.34495@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:01:18 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: hackers@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: 2.2-GAMMA (latest) page fault while in kernel mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65_p2,4-7,10-11,15,18,21-22 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-GAMMA Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Still having problems to reboot my machine ... Everytime I do so, the machine panics: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address: 0x0 fault code: supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer: 0x8:0x0 stack pointer: 0x10:0xefbffe58 frame pointer: 0x10:0xefbffe60 code segment: base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x16 DPL0, pres 1, def 321, gran 1 processor flags: interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 current process: 1549 (reboot) interrupt mask = panic: page fault. I compiled the kernel with debugging symbols as described in the FreeBSD manual. /var/crash contains the following files: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2 12 Mär 07:42 bounds -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8451237 12 Mär 07:42 kernel.6 -rw------- 1 root wheel 67108864 12 Mär 07:42 vmcore.6 Then: cd /bisdn/compile/BISDN kgdb kernel /var/crash/vmcore.6 .... (gdb) /var/crash/vmcore.6 is not a coredump (gdb) File format not recognized /var is large enough so I think nothing is truncated because of space limitations... Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0s3f 127151 109511 7468 94% /var -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 737280 9 Mär 19:49 /usr/bin/gdb lrwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 3 10 Mär 23:49 /usr/bin/kgdb -> gdb Kgdb is the catually build gdb ... So I think no fault of mine here, too. Sorry, I wanted to give more infos on that but I can't ... Any idea ? BTW, the panic happens every time, when I execute shutdown -r now It's absolutely reproduceable ! Here again my kernel config file: machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident BISDN maxusers 64 options INET #Internet communications protocols options FFS #Fast filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" options SCSI_DELAY=8 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow ordinary users to take the # console - this is useful for X. options "MAXCONS=4" # Number of virtual SCO compat consoles options "MD5" options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100" #limit verbosity options TELES_HAS_MEMCPYB # bisdn 0.97 options SYSVSHM,SYSVSEM,SYSVMSG # System V shared memory ###options "IBCS2" # COFF binary compatibility options COMPAT_LINUX # Linux Binary compatibility options SHOW_BUSYBUFS # busy buffers on shutdown ? ###options AHC_TAGENABLE ###options AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE ###options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO options SCSI_REPORT_GEOMETRY ###options DDB ###options KTRACE #kernel tracing options MFS #Memory File System config kernel root on sd0 dumps on sd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # my hardwired scsi devices, they have always the same SCSI ID ! controller ahc0 controller scbus0 at ahc0 disk sd0 at scbus0 target 0 disk sd1 at scbus0 target 1 disk sd2 at scbus0 target 2 tape st0 at scbus0 target 4 device cd0 at scbus0 target 6 # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xcc000 vector edintr # Joystick device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device snp 3 #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. pseudo-device gzip pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) #pseudo-device speaker # SB = SoundBlaster; PAS = ProAudioSpectrum; GUS = Gravis UltraSound # Controls all sound devices controller snd0 # SoundBlaster DSP driver - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS(emulating SB) device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr # SoundBlaster 16 DSP driver - for SB16 - requires sb0 device device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 # SoundBlaster 16 MIDI - for SB16 - requires sb0 device device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 # Yamaha OPL-2/OPL-3 FM - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 #--------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # ISDN - parts of an example config file for bisdn # ------------------------------------------------ # # last edit-date: [Sun May 26 10:35:22 1996] # #--------------------------------------------------------------------------- options IPI_VJ # Van Jacobsen header compression support #options "IPI_DIPA=3" # send ip accounting packets every 3 seconds # Teles S0/16.3 ###################################################### IRQ 9 ## controller tel0 at isa? port 0xd80 net irq 9 vector telintr pseudo-device disdn pseudo-device isdn pseudo-device ipi 4 pseudo-device itel 2 pseudo-device ispy 1 -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 00:20:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA24934 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24929 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14656; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:20:00 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199703120820.JAA14656@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wdc_p.h wd.c src/sys/conf files src/sys/pci wdc_p.c In-Reply-To: <19970312004914.VS14732@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Mar 12, 97 00:49:14 am" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:19:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi J"org, > As Stefan Esser wrote: > > > Branch: sys/conf RELENG_2_2 > > Modified: sys/i386/isa wd.c > > sys/conf files > > Added: sys/i386/isa wdc_p.h > > sys/pci wdc_p.c > > I think you've accidentally mixed the branches here. The change to > sys/conf/files went (only) into RELENG_2_2, while the remaining > happened in HEAD. > > > Revision Changes Path > > 1.126 +120 -1 src/sys/i386/isa/wd.c > > 1.80.2.6 +1 -0 src/sys/conf/files > ^^^^^^^^ > > Do you have an idea how stable this is, and whether it's dangerous for > non-CMD640 users? If not, i wouldn't mind pulling it into 2.2. > > -- > cheers, J"org > Oh, if I would have seen a slightest chance of this patch going into RELENG_2_2, I would have worked with 2.2 instead of watching Lite2 merging with -current. So it's only been tested with -current (pre and post Lite2). And even for -current there are some test cases are missing: o options "CMD640" and no CMD640b-chip in the system. o no options "CMD640" with and without CMD640b-chip. It *should* work though. To test in -current, you'll have to patch /sys/conf/files, since this change was accidently committed to RELENG_2_2. *** files.orig Tue Mar 11 23:30:28 1997 --- files Tue Mar 11 23:33:28 1997 *************** *** 332,337 **** --- 332,338 ---- pci/if_ed_p.c optional ed device-driver pci/if_fxp.c optional fxp device-driver pci/if_lnc_p.c optional lnc device-driver + pci/wdc_p.c optional wdc device-driver dev/pdq/pdq.c optional fea device-driver dev/pdq/pdq_ifsubr.c optional fea device-driver pci/if_fpa.c optional fpa device-driver TIA Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 00:51:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA27091 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA27081 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA22364; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:51:06 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07890; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:31:58 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970312093158.NY54582@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:31:58 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: awhawks@ibm.net Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with 3.0 SNAP build References: <199703120617.BAA12657@pent.ibm.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703120617.BAA12657@pent.ibm.net>; from Adam W. Hawks on Mar 12, 1997 01:17:42 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Adam W. Hawks wrote: > sh -e /usr/src/release/doFS.sh /R/stage /mnt 1440 /R/stage/boot.std 100000 fd1440 ^^^^ > ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device > Warning: Block size restricts cylinders per group to 11. > /dev/rvn0c: 2400 sectors in 1 cylinders of 1 tracks, 2400 sectors ^^^^ > 1.2MB in 1 cyl groups (11 c/g, 12.89MB/g, 128 i/g) > super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: > 32, > > /mnt: write failed, file system is full You are using an obsolete /usr/src/etc/etc.i386/disktab in your hosting environment, and you aren't using the latest /usr/src/release/Makefile, thus you've just repeated errors we were already stumpling across. :) The fix is: echo "(cd etc; make distribution)" >> ${CHROOTDIR}/mk right after the `make world' line. This ensures that the /etc directory in the chroot tree will be updated from the appropriate source tree, as opposed to inheriting (potentially bogus) settings from the hosting environment. Note that if you wanna build a 2.2 system from 3.0-current, you need my yesterday's bootstrapping aid as well -- or your binaries will end up linked against the wrong version of libutil. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 01:06:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA27897 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27875; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id UAA22408; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:04:49 +1100 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:04:49 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703120904.UAA22408@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@nagual.ru, brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: ppp & signals pending Cc: brian@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >HUP must never come during normal mode because modem is not control >terminal for PPP. PPP code strangely use every second carrier check >instead of using HUP on control terminals. It's difficult to use HUP on control terminals. Remember all the problems slattach had getting it to work? (slattach still doesn't work right, mainly because too much is done in the signal handler :-). E.g., an interactive process can't use HUP on a separate control terminal since it needs to keep its normal control terminal and there can only be one control terminal. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 01:20:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA29235 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29208 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA18820; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:19:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19970312011918.39824@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:19:18 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: FreeBSD Current Subject: getpeername xrefs? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64_p3-9,11-13,16-17,20-23,25-27 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk is there any good reason why getpeername doesn't have xrefs in related man pages? (like socket(2), getsockname(2), etc...)? should I add it?? -- John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 01:22:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA29480 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA29457 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA23138 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:21:52 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08005; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:56:50 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970312095650.SW14549@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:56:50 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA (latest) page fault while in kernel mode References: <19970312080118.34495@klemm.gtn.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <19970312080118.34495@klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Mar 12, 1997 08:01:18 +0100 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andreas Klemm wrote: > kgdb kernel /var/crash/vmcore.6 > .... > (gdb) /var/crash/vmcore.6 is not a coredump > (gdb) File format not recognized > > /var is large enough so I think nothing is truncated because > of space limitations... Maybe the latest gdb doesn't honor being called by the name kgdb as a special case? Gary? Try gdb -k. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 01:34:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA00229 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA00224 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA13338 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:01:22 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Wed, 12 Mar 97 12:01:22 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00690; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:47:23 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:47:18 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: ppp & signals pending In-Reply-To: <19970311234832.KY35137@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > As ??????????????? wrote: > > > HUP must never come during normal mode because modem is not control > > terminal for PPP. PPP code strangely use every second carrier check > > instead of using HUP on control terminals. > > Acquiring a controlling tty different from the current one is only > possible by allocating a new session first (setsid()), which is only > possible by forking first. Thus, only a true daemon can do it. > IIJPPP doesn't always want to be a true daemon. It does fork/setsid, but not change controlling terminal to modem (CTTY). -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 03:50:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA05335 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05328 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:49:57 -0800 (PST) From: garyj@frt.dec.com Received: from cssmuc.frt.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id GAA13193; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by cssmuc.frt.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0232PM) id AA17293; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:44:22 +0100 Message-Id: <9703121144.AA17293@cssmuc.frt.dec.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message from j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) of Wed, 12 Mar 97 09:56:50 +0100. Reply-To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA (latest) page fault while in kernel mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 12:44:22 +0100 X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk j@uriah.heep.sax.de writes: > As Andreas Klemm wrote: > > > kgdb kernel /var/crash/vmcore.6 > > .... > > (gdb) /var/crash/vmcore.6 is not a coredump > > (gdb) File format not recognized > > > > /var is large enough so I think nothing is truncated because > > of space limitations... > > Maybe the latest gdb doesn't honor being called by the name kgdb as a > special case? Gary? > this may well be. I know I changed it to set the prompt to "(kgdb)" if -k was specified, but I'm pretty sure that the hack to check for argv[0]==kgdb was left out of 4.16. This would be trivial to put back in, if it's considered worthwhile. If this is done then the Makefile should also delete any kgdb that's present and make it a link to gdb (if it doesn't do that already. I don't have FreeBSD box here to check). --- Gary Jennejohn (work) gjennejohn@frt.dec.com (home) Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de (play) gj@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 05:56:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA12353 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 05:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA12346 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 05:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id AAA31855; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:51:47 +1100 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:51:47 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703121351.AAA31855@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org, garyj@frt.dec.com Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA (latest) page fault while in kernel mode Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >this may well be. I know I changed it to set the prompt to "(kgdb)" if >-k was specified, but I'm pretty sure that the hack to check for >argv[0]==kgdb was left out of 4.16. This would be trivial to put back >in, if it's considered worthwhile. If this is done then the Makefile >should also delete any kgdb that's present and make it a link to gdb >(if it doesn't do that already. I don't have FreeBSD box here to check). gdb hasn't been linked to kgdb since prehistoric times, if ever. History begins almost 3 years ago with rev.1.1 of gdb/gdb/Makefile on 1994/06/10. There seem to be no links in gdb's Attics either. It's hard to tell, because grep gives about 500 useless hits on kgdb in spammed log messages. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 06:17:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13843 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13837 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:17:36 -0800 (PST) From: garyj@frt.dec.com Received: from cssmuc.frt.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id JAA26702; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by cssmuc.frt.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0232PM) id AA12233; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:08:18 +0100 Message-Id: <9703121408.AA12233@cssmuc.frt.dec.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message from Bruce Evans of Thu, 13 Mar 97 00:51:47 +1100. Reply-To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA (latest) page fault while in kernel mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 15:08:18 +0100 X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk bde@zeta.org.au writes: > >this may well be. I know I changed it to set the prompt to "(kgdb)" if > >-k was specified, but I'm pretty sure that the hack to check for > >argv[0]==kgdb was left out of 4.16. This would be trivial to put back > >in, if it's considered worthwhile. If this is done then the Makefile > >should also delete any kgdb that's present and make it a link to gdb > >(if it doesn't do that already. I don't have FreeBSD box here to check). > > gdb hasn't been linked to kgdb since prehistoric times, if ever. > History begins almost 3 years ago with rev.1.1 of gdb/gdb/Makefile > on 1994/06/10. There seem to be no links in gdb's Attics either. > It's hard to tell, because grep gives about 500 useless hits on > kgdb in spammed log messages. > ah well, then I imagine that people have been doing it for themselves. Seems to me that, if the name kgdb is handled magically, then we should produce the link automatically when gdb is installed. --- Gary Jennejohn (work) gjennejohn@frt.dec.com (home) Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de (play) gj@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 06:36:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA14939 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14874; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (localhost.lan.awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18435; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:26:32 GMT Message-Id: <199703121426.OAA18435@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: brian@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: ppp & signals pending In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:09:02 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:26:32 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > > Everything that's trapped with a call to Hangup() is fatal, but I suspect > > that HUP was causing the malloc() recursion. > > HUP must never come during normal mode because modem is not control > terminal for PPP. PPP code strangely use every second carrier check > instead of using HUP on control terminals. Good spot, so does anyone have any problems with using HUP as a re-open log file signal ? As ppp doesn't use syslog, newsyslog turns over the file with no way of getting ppp -auto to notice. > -- > Andrey A. Chernov > > http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ > -- Brian , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 14:00:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14117 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13903 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA13662 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:57:37 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09813; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:33:25 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970312223325.PX15962@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:33:25 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-current) Subject: Re: ppp & signals pending References: <19970311234832.KY35137@uriah.heep.sax.de> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from ??????????????? on Mar 12, 1997 11:47:18 +0300 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andrey wrote: > > Acquiring a controlling tty different from the current one is only > > possible by allocating a new session first (setsid()), which is only > > possible by forking first. Thus, only a true daemon can do it. > > IIJPPP doesn't always want to be a true daemon. > > It does fork/setsid, but not change controlling terminal to modem (CTTY). It doesn't always fork/setsid. If you call it ``ppp somesite'', without any flags, it stays in the foreground, and makes heavy use of its controlling tty. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 15:20:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18512 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (isdn13.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.236]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18364 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA20452; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:24:04 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199703122224.XAA20452@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.info.mk In-Reply-To: <199703120714.XAA22160@freefall.freebsd.org> from Peter Wemm at "Mar 11, 97 11:14:45 pm" To: peter@freefall.freebsd.org (Peter Wemm) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:24:03 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > peter 97/03/11 23:14:44 > > Modified: share/mk bsd.info.mk > Log: > makeinfo can fail but still leave behind zero length files which cause > interesting problems because the resulting file is newer than the source > and this stops 'make' from rebuilding it. Go via an intermediate file > and rename to make sure this doesn't happen. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.34 +9 -4 src/share/mk/bsd.info.mk Either this or the last change of bsd.info.mk seems to break "make world": install -C -o bin -g bin -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/com_err.h /usr/include install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 libcom_err_p.a /usr/lib install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 libcom_err.so.2.0 /usr/lib install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 com_err.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 ===> doc install-info --defsection="Programming & development tools." --defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err). A Common Error Description Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 com_err.info.gz /usr/share/info install: com_err.info.gz: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. The bsd.info.mk created com_err.info instead of com_err.info.gz in /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libcom_err. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 16:44:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22693 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22683 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23027 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:43:31 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with SMTP id KAA26751 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:44:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id AAA00464 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:45:33 GMT Message-Id: <199703130045.AAA00464@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Current Make world falls over in libc_r X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:45:32 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm one of the freaks who insists on building libc_r during a make world. It fails during the make depend stage thusly - ===> libc_r make: don't know how to make realpath.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- The views expressed above are not those of WorkCover Queensland, Australia. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 19:24:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA29859 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29854 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id VAA20482 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:24:47 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:24:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from fools.ecpnet.com(204.246.64.101) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma020448; Wed, 12 Mar 97 21:24:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (moke@localhost) by fools.ecpnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA03305 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:21:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:21:01 -0600 (CST) From: Jimbo Bahooli To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: worm0 and cd imaging Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Under current is it possible to make a complete image of a CD (from a cd0 , and then use worm control to burn it to a recordable? If so, how would I go about doing this. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 20:23:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02826 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pent.ibm.net (slip129-37-195-184.nc.us.ibm.net [129.37.195.184]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02818 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from slip129-37-195-1.nc.us.ibm.net (ns01 [127.0.0.1]) by pent.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02473; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:21:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703130421.XAA02473@pent.ibm.net> To: Jimbo Bahooli CC: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: worm0 and cd imaging In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:21:01 CST." Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:21:23 -0500 From: "Adam W. Hawks" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Under current is it possible to make a complete image of a CD > (from a cd0 , and then use worm control to burn it to a recordable? > If so, how would I go about doing this. > > > > To make an image from a disk I cat /dev/cd0a > image.iso then burn this image and it makes a duplicate of my disk. Seems to work on the ones I've tried so far. Adam W. Hawks awhawks@ibm.net From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 21:06:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04918 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:06:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04911 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id XAA02568; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:06:04 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:06:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from fools.ecpnet.com(204.246.64.101) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma002534; Wed, 12 Mar 97 23:05:37 -0600 Received: from localhost (moke@localhost) by fools.ecpnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA01666; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:01:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:01:57 -0600 (CST) From: Jimbo Bahooli To: "Adam W. Hawks" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: worm0 and cd imaging In-Reply-To: <199703130421.XAA02473@pent.ibm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Adam W. Hawks wrote: > > Under current is it possible to make a complete image of a CD > > (from a cd0 , and then use worm control to burn it to a recordable? > > If so, how would I go about doing this. > > > > > > > > > > To make an image from a disk I > > cat /dev/cd0a > image.iso > > then burn this image and it makes a duplicate of my disk. > > Seems to work on the ones I've tried so far. > > Adam W. Hawks > awhawks@ibm.net Thanks, I'm going to make the images now with 'dd if=/dev/cd0a of=cd.img' tested it out slightly and it worked great. What are the exact commands you use to burn it? Does the burncdfs.sh do it right... it looks like it to me, but I'd rather hear from experience. But now that this hurdle is jumped, I can't wait for my Advansys scsi card to be supported. Even with -current and the SCSI branch my version is not supported yet... From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 21:19:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05540 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05518 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id XAA03981 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:19:24 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:19:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from fools.ecpnet.com(204.246.64.101) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma003964; Wed, 12 Mar 97 23:19:06 -0600 Received: from localhost (moke@localhost) by fools.ecpnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA01910 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:15:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:15:26 -0600 (CST) From: Jimbo Bahooli To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: IPDIVERT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm wondering if anyone else here is using the DIVERT feature of ipfw. It seems to be causing my system to reboot under both 2.2 and 3.0. This happens after natd 1.3 is run. Anyone else having this problem? From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 12 23:15:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10765 for current-outgoing; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10753 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id IAA24966; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:01:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) id XAA03040; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:44:58 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970312234458.29193@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:44:58 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA (latest) page fault while in kernel mode References: <19970312080118.34495@klemm.gtn.com> <19970312095650.SW14549@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65_p2,4-7,10-11,15,18,21-22 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-GAMMA Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Mar 12, 1997 at 09:56:50AM +0100, J Wunsch wrote: > As Andreas Klemm wrote: > > Maybe the latest gdb doesn't honor being called by the name kgdb as a > special case? Gary? > > Try gdb -k. You're right. Here my gdb output: Script started on Wed Mar 12 23:39:11 1997 root# gdb -k kernel /var/crash/vmcore.1 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 1e1000 current pcb at 1c5990 panic: page fault #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 243 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 #1 0xf010de42 in panic (fmt=0xf018339f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:367 #2 0xf0183f06 in trap_fatal (frame=0xefbffe1c) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:742 #3 0xf01839f4 in trap_pfault (frame=0xefbffe1c, usermode=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:653 #4 0xf01836cf in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 66096, tf_esi = -231473664, tf_ebp = -272630176, tf_isp = -272630204, tf_ebx = -198097180, tf_edx = -198097180, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -267167890, tf_ss = -198097180}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 (kgdb) list 238 } 239 } else { 240 if (howto & RB_DUMP) { 241 if (!cold) { 242 savectx(&dumppcb); 243 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); 244 dumpsys(); 245 } 246 247 if (PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME != 0) { (kgdb) up 1 #1 0xf010de42 in panic (fmt=0xf018339f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:367 367 boot(bootopt); (kgdb) list 362 363 #if defined(DDB) 364 if (debugger_on_panic) 365 Debugger ("panic"); 366 #endif 367 boot(bootopt); 368 } 369 370 /* 371 * Two routines to handle adding/deleting items on the (kgdb) print bootopt $1 = 256 (kgdb) up 1 #2 0xf0183f06 in trap_fatal (frame=0xefbffe1c) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:742 742 panic(trap_msg[type]); (kgdb) list 737 #ifdef DDB 738 if (kdb_trap (type, 0, frame)) 739 return; 740 #endif 741 if (type <= MAX_TRAP_MSG) 742 panic(trap_msg[type]); 743 else 744 panic("unknown/reserved trap"); 745 } 746 (kgdb) print type $2 = 12 (kgdb) print trap_msg[type] $3 = 0xf018339f "page fault" (kgdb) up 1 #3 0xf01839f4 in trap_pfault (frame=0xefbffe1c, usermode=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:653 653 trap_fatal(frame); (kgdb) list 648 if (!usermode) { 649 if (intr_nesting_level == 0 && curpcb && curpcb->pcb_onfault) { 650 frame->tf_eip = (int)curpcb->pcb_onfault; 651 return (0); 652 } 653 trap_fatal(frame); 654 return (-1); 655 } 656 657 /* kludge to pass faulting virtual address to sendsig */ (kgdb) print frame $4 = (struct trapframe *) 0xefbffe1c (kgdb) up 1 #4 0xf01836cf in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 66096, tf_esi = -231473664, tf_ebp = -272630176, tf_isp = -272630204, tf_ebx = -198097180, tf_edx = -198097180, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -267167890, tf_ss = -198097180}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 311 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE); (kgdb) list 306 } else { 307 /* kernel trap */ 308 309 switch (type) { 310 case T_PAGEFLT: /* page fault */ 311 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE); 312 return; 313 314 case T_DNA: 315 #if NNPX > 0 (kgdb) print frame $5 = {tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 66096, tf_esi = -231473664, tf_ebp = -272630176, tf_isp = -272630204, tf_ebx = -198097180, tf_edx = -198097180, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -267167890, tf_ss = -198097180} (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 #1 0xf010de42 in panic (fmt=0xf018339f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:367 #2 0xf0183f06 in trap_fatal (frame=0xefbffe1c) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:742 #3 0xf01839f4 in trap_pfault (frame=0xefbffe1c, usermode=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:653 #4 0xf01836cf in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 66096, tf_esi = -231473664, tf_ebp = -272630176, tf_isp = -272630204, tf_ebx = -198097180, tf_edx = -198097180, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -267167890, tf_ss = -198097180}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 (kgdb) q root{1002} /bisdn/compile/BISDN exit Script done on Wed Mar 12 23:42:01 1997 -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 00:25:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13712 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain-work.iafrica.com (chain-work.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13707 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain-work.iafrica.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09998; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:23:59 +0200 (SAT) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:23:58 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: Andreas Klemm cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_2_2 crash In-Reply-To: <19970311075230.28504@klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: X-Alternate-Address: gjjkhe01@sonnenberg.uct.ac.za X-PGP-Fingerprint: FF F9 1C B8 39 06 1E CD 60 4C E8 57 2D A3 46 E7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Andreas Klemm wrote: >Yesterday it was too late for me to do further investigation. >Someone else with strange reboot problems ??? BTW, when being Yeah - halt, reboot, etc. And panics, signal 11, fatal trap 12's - after worlding on Friday. --- Khetan Gajjar [ http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan] I'm a FreeBSD User! [ http://www.freebsd.org ] PGP Key [finger khetan@chain.iafrica.com] UUNet Internet Africa [0800-030-002 & help@iafrica.com] From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 00:51:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA14809 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14802 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA22962 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:51:03 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03145; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:33:49 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970313093349.NA34703@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:33:49 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA (latest) page fault while in kernel mode References: <19970312080118.34495@klemm.gtn.com> <19970312095650.SW14549@uriah.heep.sax.de> <19970312234458.29193@klemm.gtn.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <19970312234458.29193@klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Mar 12, 1997 23:44:58 +0100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andreas Klemm wrote: > (kgdb) where > > #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 > #1 0xf010de42 in panic (fmt=0xf018339f "page fault") > at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:367 > #2 0xf0183f06 in trap_fatal (frame=0xefbffe1c) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:742 > #3 0xf01839f4 in trap_pfault (frame=0xefbffe1c, usermode=0) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:653 > #4 0xf01836cf in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 66096, > tf_esi = -231473664, tf_ebp = -272630176, tf_isp = -272630204, > tf_ebx = -198097180, tf_edx = -198097180, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 0, > tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, > tf_esp = -267167890, tf_ss = -198097180}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 > Well, you've been posting several hundred lines of non-information. :) Frame #5 is the most interesting, but gdb seems to have lost track about it. Do the usual: up 4 frame frame->tf_ebp frame->tf_eip and see where you'll be dropped into. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 00:51:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA14830 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14816 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA22963 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:51:10 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03167; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:43:17 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970313094317.OQ49355@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:43:17 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: worm0 and cd imaging References: <199703130421.XAA02473@pent.ibm.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Jimbo Bahooli on Mar 12, 1997 23:01:57 -0600 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jimbo Bahooli wrote: > Thanks, I'm going to make the images now with 'dd if=/dev/cd0a of=cd.img' > tested it out slightly and it worked great. If you're using dd(1), you might also use bs=64k. This slightly reduces the overhead. With a reasonably fast CD-ROM drive, i think you can even burn directly from a CD, but i haven't tested this. > What are the exact commands > you use to burn it? Does the burncdfs.sh do it right... I think quite a number of people are using it. I'm using another but fairly similar script (the one in examples is Jordan's). If you feel adventurous, and you know how to use Tcl/Tk (i don't), go and write a better user interface around mkisofs, and the burncd script. > But now that this hurdle is > jumped, I can't wait for my Advansys scsi card to be supported. Even with > -current and the SCSI branch my version is not supported yet... There's one solution to this: go and write the driver. :-] -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 00:52:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA14916 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14911 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id TAA03874; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:48:01 +1100 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:48:01 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703130848.TAA03874@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De, peter@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.info.mk Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Modified: share/mk bsd.info.mk >> Log: >> makeinfo can fail but still leave behind zero length files which cause >> interesting problems because the resulting file is newer than the source >> ... >Either this or the last change of bsd.info.mk seems to break "make world": >... >The bsd.info.mk created com_err.info instead of com_err.info.gz in >/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libcom_err. It has at least three other bugs: 1. the new temporary files aren't in ${CLEANFILES}. 2. support for not having --no-split in ${MAKEINFOFLAGS} is more broken then before. 3. some too-long lines are longer than before. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 02:26:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19291 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic.follonett.no (nic.follonett.no [194.198.43.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19286 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nic.follonett.no (8.8.5/8.8.3) with UUCP id LAA23997; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:20:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from oo7 (oo7.dimaga.com [192.0.0.65]) by dimaga.com (8.7.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA14191; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:21:23 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970313111951.00c24940@dimaga.com> X-Sender: eivind@dimaga.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:19:52 +0100 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Eivind Eklund Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.info.mk Cc: current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 12:06 AM 3/13/97 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> New -SNAP in a reasonably short while? > >I was thinking the beginning of April might be good? Sounds great to me - I'll be far away from computers during the wait, anyway :) (I'm going to inner Ghana for two weeks starting tuesday.) Eivind Eklund perhaps@yes.no http://maybe.yes.no/perhaps/ eivind@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 02:41:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19835 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.hda.com (ip38-max1-fitch.ziplink.net [199.232.245.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA19826 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA06544; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 03:58:31 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199703130858.DAA06544@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: worm0 and cd imaging In-Reply-To: <19970313094317.OQ49355@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Mar 13, 97 09:43:17 am" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 03:58:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If you feel adventurous, and you know how to use Tcl/Tk (i don't), go > and write a better user interface around mkisofs, and the burncd > script. If you want to do this pick up the test scsi(8) on freefall in ~ftp/pub/dufault/scsinew.tgz since it supports Tcl/Tk lists directly. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 03:17:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA21171 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 03:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from spinner.DIALix.COM (spinner.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21163 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 03:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from spinner.DIALix.COM (localhost.DIALix.oz.au [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.DIALix.COM (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13938; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:12:48 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199703131112.TAA13938@spinner.DIALix.COM> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Bruce Evans cc: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.info.mk In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:48:01 +1100." <199703130848.TAA03874@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:12:47 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans wrote: > >> Modified: share/mk bsd.info.mk > >> Log: > >> makeinfo can fail but still leave behind zero length files which cause > >> interesting problems because the resulting file is newer than the source > >> ... > > >Either this or the last change of bsd.info.mk seems to break "make world": > >... > >The bsd.info.mk created com_err.info instead of com_err.info.gz in > >/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libcom_err. Something is wrong.. The "com_err.info.gz not found" was what the second last commit (rev 1.33) was supposed to fix. The "zero length result" change (rev 1.34) was in cases where texinfo files fail to build but make thinks that they did. It was rev 1.32 (by "wosch") that caused the first breakage that I can see. As far as I can tell, the breakage was not detected because either because of the brokenness in -current, or because it was tested with "NOINFOCOMPRESS" active. Please check what version you have in /usr/share/mk/bsd.info.mk. > It has at least three other bugs: > > 1. the new temporary files aren't in ${CLEANFILES}. No.. .info* includes the .info.new temporaries. > 2. support for not having --no-split in ${MAKEINFOFLAGS} is more broken > then before. "support" is not exactly what I'd call it. There is zero support for it and it requires quite a bit of work to do it. Since makeinfo doesn't have any way of notifying which (if any) extra .info-1 etc files are created (if any) so that installing them and cleaning them requires wildcard expansion. > 3. some too-long lines are longer than before. That's easily fixed... > Bruce Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 04:26:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA24709 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 04:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de (magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de [139.20.128.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24704 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 04:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA25746 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:26:07 +0100 (MET) From: FreeBSD Mail user Message-Id: <199703131226.NAA25746@magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de> Subject: CTM-deltas over ftp ? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:26:07 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL26 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, where can I get the cvs-cur CTM deltas over ftp now since spatter.freebsd.org is down ? I have mirrored these here since cvs-cur.1700A. Must I use CVSUP now ? -- ******************************************************************************* * Holm Tiffe holm@geophysik.tu-freiberg.de * * Strasse der Einheit 26 * * 09599 Freiberg Germany Microsoft is not the Answer - * * Tel.: 49 3731 74233 Microsoft is the Question, * * UUCP: 49 3731 73719 unicorn!holm and the Answer is no ! * ******************************************************************************* From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 05:04:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26325 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:04:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26320 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id XAA12074; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:59:44 +1100 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:59:44 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703131259.XAA12074@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, peter@spinner.DIALix.COM Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.info.mk Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> It has at least three other bugs: >> >> 1. the new temporary files aren't in ${CLEANFILES}. > >No.. .info* includes the .info.new temporaries. Ah. The bug is a little different :-). Removing files that weren't created by the build process is not good, and the globbing in bsd.info.mk is bad - it would remove bsd.info.mk if there was an info source file bsd.texi in /usr/src/share/mk and the obj dir is the same as the src dir. >> 2. support for not having --no-split in ${MAKEINFOFLAGS} is more broken >> then before. > >"support" is not exactly what I'd call it. There is zero support for it >and it requires quite a bit of work to do it. Since makeinfo doesn't have >any way of notifying which (if any) extra .info-1 etc files are created (if >any) so that installing them and cleaning them requires wildcard expansion. Splitting used to be the default before rev.1.14. Rev.1.14 implemented compression and made --no-split the default so simplify the compression rule. Rev.1.14 also removed a single '*' in the install rule to prevent both the .info and the .info.gz files being installed. This broke installation of split info files. Otherwise the splitting case was sort of supported. You just had to use the incantation `make NOINFOCOMPRESS= MAKEINFOFLAGS= ...'. I'd like to drop support for !--no-split and require ${MAKEINFO} to output to stdout (makeinfo -o -). Outputting to stdout in all cases makes supporting different filters easier. It also makes the problem with garbage output files more obvious. However, this problem is usually not handled. There are lots of pipelines ending with "> ${.TARGET}" where errors leak out of the pipes and garbage targets are not cleaned up. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 05:21:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26868 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26863 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id AAA12747; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:18:15 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:18:15 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703131318.AAA12747@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd@magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de Subject: Re: CTM-deltas over ftp ? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >where can I get the cvs-cur CTM deltas over ftp now since >spatter.freebsd.org is down ? spatter is dead. >I have mirrored these here since cvs-cur.1700A. They are very difficult to get. The CTM servers mentioned in the handbook all suffer from serious problems: ftp://freefall.freebsd.org/pub/CTM Only has gnats. Hasn't had the others since they moved to spatter. ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/FreeBSD/CTM Only has cvs-cur up to when spatter died (cvs-cur.3112.gz). Since I only want cvs-cur, I didn't look at what else it has. ftp://ftp.uni-trier.de/pub/unix/systems/BSD/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/CTM Doesn't have cvs-cur. ftp://ftp.internat.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM Has everything, but has a very slow link. I got #3113-3116 from there the other day when there was 50-100% packet loss, dozens of ftp disconnects and an average speed of < 20 bytes/second! ftp://ftp.ccu.edu.tw/pub/freebsd/CTM Doesn't have cvs-cur. >Must I use CVSUP now ? No. CTM by mail works fine, except it doesn't seem to be able to send old deltas. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 06:21:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28874 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 06:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28856 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 06:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA08723; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:17:48 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199703131417.QAA08723@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: CTM-deltas over ftp ? In-Reply-To: <199703131318.AAA12747@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Mar 14, 97 00:18:15 am" To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:17:48 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >where can I get the cvs-cur CTM deltas over ftp now since > >spatter.freebsd.org is down ? > > spatter is dead. > > >I have mirrored these here since cvs-cur.1700A. > > They are very difficult to get. The CTM servers mentioned in the > handbook all suffer from serious problems: > > ... > > ftp://ftp.internat.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM > Has everything, but has a very slow link. I got #3113-3116 from > there the other day when there was 50-100% packet loss, dozens of > ftp disconnects and an average speed of < 20 bytes/second! > Well we had a small little problem for a few days. :-( Half of the 1Mbit/s between Uninet (which is our "ISP") and the rest of the internet was unavailable because of the failure of one of the links. It took a few days to get fixed in which it was going up and down and generally playing havoc. It should be better now...... I hope. :-/ If it is still THAT bad please tell me. (But don't expect USA speeds. We only have 1.25MBit/s between us and the rest of the internet. Us being the Uninet which are 30+ universities, technikons and schools.) John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 08:00:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04265 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw (jdli@freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw [140.113.235.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04250 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jdli@localhost) by FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw (8.8.5/8.8.2) id XAA15144 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:58:50 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:58:50 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <199703131558.XAA15144@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw> From: jdli@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw (Jian-Da Li) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CTM-deltas over ftp ? Newsgroups: mailing.freebsd.current Organization: NCTU CSIE FreeBSD Server Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > They are very difficult to get. The CTM servers mentioned in the > handbook all suffer from serious problems: Try ftp://ftp2.tw.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-CTM/, there are : (aka freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw, T1-link) gnats, smp-cur, src-cur, cvs-cur, ports-cur, src-2.2, src-stable. Maybe someone can add this site into handbook. -- §õ «Ø ¹F (Jian-Da Li) ¥æ ¤j ¸ê ¤u E-Mail ¡G http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~jdli From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 08:30:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA05635 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05628 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id DAA17833 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:30:14 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:30:14 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703131630.DAA17833@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: union mounts seem to work Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had few problems building part of the tree using union mounts: cd ~ # ~ happens to be nfs-mounted mkdir a mount -t union -o ro /usr/src ~/a # /usr/src is also nfs-mounted mkdir /tmp/obj mount -t union /tmp/obj ~/a cd ~/a/bin export MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX= # use objdir = curdir make # failed, src dirs are owned # by root although they are # by bde in /usr/src, and they # were originally non-statable su make # worked Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 09:15:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08241 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA08229 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA27821; Thu, 13 Mar 97 18:17:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 18:17:32 +0100 Message-Id: <9703131717.AA27821@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: bde@zeta.org.au Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd@magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de In-Reply-To: <199703131318.AAA12747@godzilla.zeta.org.au> (message from Bruce Evans on Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:18:15 +1100) Subject: Re: CTM-deltas over ftp ? X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ftp://eel.dataplex.net/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/cvs-cur/cvs-cur.*.gz !!!! Jean-Marc _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 11:41:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16714 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16704; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:41:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199703131941.LAA16704@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bde Subject: Re: union mounts seem to work Cc: current Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have you tried rebooting your computer single-user and manually running fsck? :-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 13:49:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22723 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca [131.104.48.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22705 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from josh@localhost) by eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA07465; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:46:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19970313164603.18923@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:46:03 -0500 From: Josh Tiefenbach To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Make world seems to die Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm not sure if I missed something obvious, kinda muzzy today. make of -current (as of ~230ish EST today) fails in /usr/src/lib/libc cc -fpic -DPIC -O -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DYP -c /usr/src/lib/libc/i386/sys/i386_get_ldt.c -o i386_get_ldt.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DYP -c /usr/src/lib/libc/i386/sys/i386_set_ldt.c -o i386_set_ldt.so building shared c library (version 3.0) nm: bt_debug.so: no name list. nm: euc.so: no name list. nm: utf2.so: no name list. building special pic c library ld.so failed: cannot stat "/libc.so.3.0" : No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. eddie# josh -- Josh Tiefenbach | "... there are men whom one hates until a certain President, | moment when one sees, through a chink in their Society for Computing | armour, the writhing of something nailed down and Information Science. | and in torment." University of Guelph | -- Gerald Kersh mailto:josh@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca Web: http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~josh PGP fingerprint = CCC5E3615A57F69B3BA426BE2D33F4A2 | Public key on web page From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 14:26:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24419 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24374; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA07965; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:26:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <199703132226.OAA07965@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: union mounts seem to work In-Reply-To: <199703131941.LAA16704@freefall.freebsd.org> from Jeffrey Hsu at "Mar 13, 97 11:41:22 am" To: hsu@freefall.freebsd.org (Jeffrey Hsu) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:26:40 -0800 (PST) Cc: bde@freefall.freebsd.org, current@freefall.freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Jeffrey Hsu: > Have you tried rebooting your computer single-user and manually running > fsck? :-) > You won't happen to be getting a "Fatal trap 12" when you reboot? root[0]: shutdown -r now gives Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x8 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf013fd15 stack pointer = 0x10:0xefbffe5c frame pointer = 0x10:0xefbffe60 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def 32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 current process = 1862 (reboot) interrupt mask = kernel: type 12 trap, code = 0 stopped at _spec_strategy+0x15: movl 0x8(%eax), %eax The mounted filesystems are not unmounted before the trap and I get dropped into the debugger. A hard reset shows all filesystems have some damage. Kernel and make world from sources circa 970312, 1000 PST. -- Steve From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 14:37:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24825 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from cenotaph.snafu.de (gw-deadnet.snafu.de [194.121.229.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA24814 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by cenotaph.snafu.de from deadline.snafu.de using smtp id m0w5J7s-000KCJC; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:37:32 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) Received: by deadline.snafu.de id m0w5gXC-00046uC; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:37:14 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) Message-Id: From: root@deadline.snafu.de (Andreas S. Wetzel) Subject: FreeBSD and SMP? To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:37:12 +0100 (CET) Organization: A world stranger than you have ever imagined. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! --- Some time ago, I remember there was a thread going on in here about FreeBSD and SMP capabilities. If I did'nt get it wrong it was stated, that 3.0 would support SMP. Is this currently working or will it still take a while until SMP support will work? Thankful for any advice... Regards, Mickey -- (__) (@@) Andreas S. Wetzel Mail: mickey@deadline.snafu.de /-------\/ Utrechter Strasse 41 Web: http://cenotaph.snafu.de/mickey/ / | || 13347 Berlin Fon: <+4930> 456 066 90 * ||----|| Germany Fax: <+4930> 456 066 91/92 ~~ ~~ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 16:17:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA29630 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29622 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id TAA00303; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:17:05 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199703140017.TAA00303@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: union mounts seem to work To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:16:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199703131630.DAA17833@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Mar 14, 97 03:30:14 am Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I had few problems building part of the tree using union mounts: > It is probably close to working. The VM object is NOT connected properly to the upper level filesystem however. I am goint to hack on nullfs tonight to get the technique working. John From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 16:23:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00124 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00111 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA00576 for current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:23:12 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199703140023.BAA00576@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: make world completes To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:23:10 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, FYI, make world and kernel built today (the first time since Feb 10th) Thanks, Wolfgang. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 16:59:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA01859 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from siesta.cs.wustl.edu (nw1@siesta.cs.wustl.edu [128.252.165.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01838 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by siesta.cs.wustl.edu (SMI-8.6/ECL-J1.00) id SAA15143; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:58:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199703140058.SAA15143@siesta.cs.wustl.edu> To: root@deadline.snafu.de (Andreas S. Wetzel) cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and SMP? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:37:12 +0100." Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:58:56 -0600 From: Nanbor Wang Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have you checked this yet? http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html nw > Hi! > --- > > Some time ago, I remember there was a thread going on in here about FreeBSD > and SMP capabilities. If I did'nt get it wrong it was stated, that 3.0 > would support SMP. Is this currently working or will it still take a while > until SMP support will work? > > Thankful for any advice... > > Regards, Mickey > > -- > (__) > (@@) Andreas S. Wetzel Mail: mickey@deadline.snafu.de > /-------\/ Utrechter Strasse 41 Web: http://cenotaph.snafu.de/mickey/ > / | || 13347 Berlin Fon: <+4930> 456 066 90 > * ||----|| Germany Fax: <+4930> 456 066 91/92 > ~~ ~~ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 19:44:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA12299 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA12292 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from imp by rover.village.org with local (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0w5Num-00004X-00; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:44:20 -0700 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: CTM 3128 kernel compiles and boots Message-Id: From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:44:20 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yippie! I just upgraded my kernel to the one that CTM 3128 (cvs) brought me this afternoon. Seems to be sane so far. Now for the real test: to see if make world works. If so, I'll know by 7:00am MST :-(. Wish me luck. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 20:35:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA17617 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17612 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA20140; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:35:16 -0800 (PST) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: worm0 and cd imaging In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:43:17 +0100." <19970313094317.OQ49355@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:35:16 -0800 Message-ID: <20136.858314116@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > But now that this hurdle is > > jumped, I can't wait for my Advansys scsi card to be supported. Even with > > -current and the SCSI branch my version is not supported yet... > > There's one solution to this: go and write the driver. :-] Well, that's probably not quite the best solution though. :-) Justin is already working on Advansys card support (and some changes to his generic SCSI code to support it and other new cards more cleanly), so at best he'd be reinventing the wheel. Better he send an email to gibbs@freebsd.org and say "if there's anything I can do to help, just ask!" :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 21:25:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA20857 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA20848 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA20499; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:25:50 -0800 (PST) To: Bruce Evans cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd@magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de Subject: Re: CTM-deltas over ftp ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:18:15 +1100." <199703131318.AAA12747@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:25:50 -0800 Message-ID: <20496.858317150@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > No. CTM by mail works fine, except it doesn't seem to be able to send > old deltas. That could probably be fixed by a very simple perl robot, ala the one which serves info@freebsd.org. Hello perl hackers! :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 21:34:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA22644 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22575 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA12400; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:03:17 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703140533.QAA12400@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: worm0 and cd imaging In-Reply-To: <199703130858.DAA06544@hda.hda.com> from Peter Dufault at "Mar 13, 97 03:58:30 am" To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:03:17 +1030 (CST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Dufault stands accused of saying: > > If you feel adventurous, and you know how to use Tcl/Tk (i don't), go > > and write a better user interface around mkisofs, and the burncd > > script. > > If you want to do this pick up the test scsi(8) on freefall in > ~ftp/pub/dufault/scsinew.tgz since it supports Tcl/Tk lists directly. Of curiosity, how many SCSI CD/burner devices support the scsi COPY command? This would make for completely hands-off duplication, which would be even better 8) > Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 21:41:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA23911 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23893 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id QAA11761; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:37:18 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:37:18 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703140537.QAA11761@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: union mounts seem to work Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I had few problems building part of the tree using union mounts: >> >It is probably close to working. The VM object is NOT connected >properly to the upper level filesystem however. I am goint to hack >on nullfs tonight to get the technique working. Yes, unlink() of a file on a union fs reliably panics with a self-lock in vn_object_terminate(). More interestingly, ^C sometimes causes a pagefault for a bad pointer in the locking code. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 22:10:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA28407 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from grackle.grondar.za (AdlFjk7Z+FzgaxxTe9T3RDh3CZsadV/X@grackle.grondar.za [196.7.18.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA28389 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from grackle.grondar.za (cgfCd+Y+uQmEFzsE2BtURVDoh8ZGKBBQ@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grackle.grondar.za (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA11306; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:09:39 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199703140609.IAA11306@grackle.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Bruce Evans , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd@magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de Subject: Re: CTM-deltas over ftp ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:09:28 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > No. CTM by mail works fine, except it doesn't seem to be able to send > > old deltas. > > That could probably be fixed by a very simple perl robot, ala the one > which serves info@freebsd.org. > > Hello perl hackers! :-) Even easier - Majordomo can do this. MD supports the concept of files "associated" with a list, and a user can request them. They just need to be put in the right place (a symlink or config line will do it) and Bob's your Uncle! M -- Mark Murray PGP key fingerprint = 80 36 6E 40 83 D6 8A 36 This .sig is umop ap!sdn. BC 06 EA 0E 7A F2 CE CE From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 23:07:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA03239 for current-outgoing; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03230; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id SAA14832; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:01:59 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:01:59 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703140701.SAA14832@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hsu@freefall.freebsd.org, sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu Subject: Re: union mounts seem to work Cc: bde@freefall.freebsd.org, current@freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Have you tried rebooting your computer single-user and manually running >> fsck? :-) I don;t have thIs particular problem. >You won't happen to be getting a "Fatal trap 12" when you reboot? > >root[0]: shutdown -r now > >gives > >Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode Or this. >The mounted filesystems are not unmounted before the trap and I get >dropped into the debugger. A hard reset shows all filesystems have >some damage. Use the panic command after getting dropped into the debugger to minimise damage. -current often gets recursive panics for following bad pointers in sync() in panic() (because there are more pointers in the locking code now). The panic command won't reduce the damage in this case, but it is even safer to use because it won't touch the disk at all. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 00:21:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06621 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06611 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA23490 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:21:03 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13659; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:02:14 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970314090213.KU02331@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:02:13 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: worm0 and cd imaging References: <199703130858.DAA06544@hda.hda.com> <199703140533.QAA12400@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703140533.QAA12400@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Mar 14, 1997 16:03:17 +1030 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Michael Smith wrote: > Of curiosity, how many SCSI CD/burner devices support the scsi COPY > command? This would make for completely hands-off duplication, which > would be even better 8) I don't know of any, and given the rather complicated handling in preparation of burning a track, it probably wouldn't make too much sense, too. But people often tend to overestimate the CD-R data rates anyway, just only since these drives have some tight timing requirements. The rate itself is fairly low, most devices still can't burn faster than 300 KB/s (for CD-ROM data, that's 350 KB/s audio). This is a pretty low rate if you compare it to a disk, or the bandwidth of a SCSI bus. Hence, the overhead of piping all the data through the CPU once isn't noticeable. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 01:27:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA09382 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09374 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04770; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:26:56 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199703140926.KAA04770@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: CTM 3128 kernel compiles and boots In-Reply-To: from Warner Losh at "Mar 13, 97 08:44:20 pm" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:26:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yippie! > I just upgraded my kernel to the one that CTM 3128 (cvs) brought > me this afternoon. Seems to be sane so far. Now for the real test: > to see if make world works. If so, I'll know by 7:00am MST :-(. Wish > me luck. Ok, here are my wishes : Good luck. The new kernel contains a work around for a buggy IDE-Chip (CMD640). It works fine on machines that have this Chip. What needs testing is the case for IDE-machines that do not use the CMD640. To enable the test add options "CMD640" ^ ^ to your kernel configuration file. (Don't forget the ") The kernel then will probe for this chip and hopefully will work if you do not have the CMD640. Thanks in advance, Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 01:59:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA11022 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:59:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.warman.org.pl [148.81.160.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11016 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03284; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:58:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:58:24 +0100 (MET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Nanbor Wang cc: "Andreas S. Wetzel" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and SMP? In-Reply-To: <199703140058.SAA15143@siesta.cs.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Nanbor Wang wrote: > Have you checked this yet? > > http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html > BTW. How is it that I can't find any link on the homepage to this stuff? Well, answer is that there is none :-) But IMHO there should be. What do you think, Webmaster? Andy, +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Andrzej Bialecki _) _) _)_) _)_)_) _) _) --------------------------------------- _)_) _) _) _) _)_) _)_) Research and Academic Network in Poland _) _)_) _)_)_)_) _) _) _) Bartycka 18, 00-716 Warsaw, Poland _) _) _) _) _)_)_) _) _) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 05:51:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA19146 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 05:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.253.72.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19140 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 05:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fakir.india.hp.com (fakir.india.hp.com [15.10.40.3]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA02605 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 05:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by fakir.india.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.20/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA248149263; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:21:03 +0500 Message-Id: <199703141421.AA248149263@fakir.india.hp.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:21:03 +0500 From: "A JOSEPH KOSHY" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Reassured by Peters earlier success report on making the world, I took the leap today and made world and rebooted. There is a minor gotcha that I got caught by: the newly built `mount' isn't compatible with a pre lite2 merge kernel and will fail on mounting `/'. Be sure to rebuild your kernel after `make world' and before rebooting. The fixit floppy is your friend if you do get caught by this, there is a copy of compatible mount on it. Thanks to all those who made the lite2 merge work! A question: is the 4.4 BSD Lite2 source being worked on by anyone? Will there ever be a Lite3? Thanks, Koshy My Personal Opinions Only. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 06:56:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22216 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA22204 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:56:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0w5YMW-0002BB-00; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:53:40 -0700 To: "A JOSEPH KOSHY" Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:21:03 +0500." <199703141421.AA248149263@fakir.india.hp.com> References: <199703141421.AA248149263@fakir.india.hp.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:53:39 -0700 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199703141421.AA248149263@fakir.india.hp.com> "A JOSEPH KOSHY" writes: : There is a minor gotcha that I got caught by: the newly built `mount' : isn't compatible with a pre lite2 merge kernel and will fail on mounting `/'. : : Be sure to rebuild your kernel after `make world' and before rebooting. FYI, I was able to use the old mount on my system with the new kernel and it has worked well enough to build most of the world (11:00 hrs later and I'm only up to compiling usr.sbin/IPXroute). I rebuilt a new kernel before I started the make world. Either FreeBSD has gotten bigger, or something is slower with the new kernel. It normally takes 10-10:30 before.... Hopefully the machine I ordered last night will make this faster (PPro-180 + 2940UW + fast disks + 64M + SuperMicro P6SNS). Warner From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 07:29:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23496 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA23490 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from imp by rover.village.org with local (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0w5Yuc-0003xk-00; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:28:54 -0700 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: libraries Message-Id: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:28:54 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, my used space on /usr just went way down after the install. One place that this happened was in /usr/lib where I now have a bunch of things like libutil.so.2.0, 2.1 and 2.2 (as well as 1.0). If I understand the ldd we have, I can kill the 2.0 and 2.1 and life will be good, no? Just wanting a sanity check before going off and doing this since I have the extra space in /usr. I just don't want to waste it.... Warner From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 07:31:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23580 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA23575 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from imp by rover.village.org with local (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0w5Yws-00048K-00; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:31:14 -0700 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Buglet in telnet Message-Id: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:31:14 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm being bad and running on a system that the make install part of the make world is running. The old telnet binary gave me the following error when I tried to run it after the new libc was installed: ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_enctype_names" in telnet:telnet Is this a compatibility problem that needs to be worried about? Warner P.S. The new telnet works just fine, btw, so I'm not complaining. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 08:12:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA25427 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25420 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (karl@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA22823; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:12:38 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.5/8.8.2) id KAA15050; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:12:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19970314101233.31910@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:12:33 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Terry Lambert Cc: Karl Denninger , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yikes! Current / Lite2 kernel has MAJOR NFS client problems References: <19970309145605.07984@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> <199703102233.PAA23787@phaeton.artisoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 In-Reply-To: <199703102233.PAA23787@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mon, Mar 10, 1997 at 03:33:53PM -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 10, 1997 at 03:33:53PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Be EXTREMELY careful if you try to run a LITE2 kernel in an NFS environment. > > > > As it sits right now, you'll get tons of panics out of "page not present" > > faults in the event any executable is grabbed over NFS. > > > > I'll start looking at this if someone has an idea where it would be coming > > from. Is this a "dirty page" problem in that the page isn't being fetched > > when it should be? > > Look at the NFS differences for the pre-merge code vs. the Lite code > that should be the first rev in the tree. Basically, the cache > unification process has changes the FS/buffer interface, and you > need to propagate some stuff down to the FS that NFS is a client > of for it to be truly happy. The diff should pinpoint it for you. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org I'll have to take a look at it -- basically, you get a "page not present" panic within minutes (literally) using the LITE2-merged stuff if you mount a directory and run executables off that mount point. Until this is fixed DO NOT mount executable directories from a remote NFS server. This is a serious problem and will lead to resets within 2-10 minutes! -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, Web servers $75/mo Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 08:22:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26291 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26284 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA00249 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:52:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703141552.IAA00249@rover.village.org> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Yippie! It worked... Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:52:54 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Make world completed at 8:38 after 12:08. It hung on reboot, but that may have been due adding the cdrom changer. After that, it seems to be working now... Warner From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 09:04:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28847 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-33.netcom.ca [207.181.94.97]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28842 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA10456 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:04:14 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:04:14 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: CVSup.freebsd.org down? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Anyone know if its down? I haven't heard any mentions of it, but I'm getting: hub# !cv cvsup -L1 current.cvsup TRANS(SocketINETConnect) () can't connect: errno = 61 When I try to connect, altho I can ping the machine :( From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 09:09:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28989 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from cenotaph.snafu.de (gw-deadnet.snafu.de [194.121.229.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA28984 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by cenotaph.snafu.de from deadline.snafu.de using smtp id m0w5aTD-000KD1C; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:08:43 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) Received: by deadline.snafu.de id m0w5aT9-0003zoC; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:08:39 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) Message-Id: From: root@deadline.snafu.de (Andreas S. Wetzel) Subject: Re: FreeBSD and SMP? To: nw1@cs.wustl.edu (Nanbor Wang) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:08:38 +0100 (CET) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199703140058.SAA15143@siesta.cs.wustl.edu> from Nanbor Wang at "Mar 13, 97 06:58:56 pm" Organization: A world stranger than you have ever imagined. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! --- Nanbor Wang writes: ] Have you checked this yet? ] ] http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html Thanks, that was the information I was looking for :-) Now I've followed the instructions on configuring an SMP kernel and successfully bootet it, it seems that the machine is slower than before while running on one processor only... any Ideas regarding that? The machine is an ASUS P/I-P65UP5 motherboard with a C-P55T2D dual Pentium CPU card equipped with two Intel 133 Mhz Pentium processors. Currently it has 16 Mb ECC ram installed. Here's what the kernel say's during boot: FreeBSD 3.0-SMP #0: Fri Mar 14 17:46:48 CET 1997 root@deadline.snafu.de:/usr/src/sys-SMP/compile/DEADLINE FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011 Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock ... i8254 clock: 1193142 Hz CPU: Pentium (586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x3bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) Physical memory hole(s): avail memory = 14655488 (14312K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:1:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:1:1 ncr0 rev 18 int a irq 11 on pci0:12:0 scbus0 at ncr0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access sd0: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 511MB (1046532 512 byte sectors) sd1 at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access sd1: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 1033MB (2116800 512 byte sectors) cd0 at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM cd0: asynchronous. can't get the size Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <4 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x300-0x31f irq 12 on isa ed0: address 00:00:e2:01:d1:17, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-64 wd0: 202MB (415264 sectors), 683 cyls, 16 heads, 38 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sb0 at 0x220 irq 10 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 6 on isa sbxvi0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa opl0 at 0x388 on isa opl0: Enabled INTs: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, imen: 0x00ffa221 WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. SMP: All idle procs online. Regards, Mickey -- (__) (@@) Andreas S. Wetzel Mail: mickey@deadline.snafu.de /-------\/ Utrechter Strasse 41 Web: http://cenotaph.snafu.de/mickey/ / | || 13347 Berlin Fon: <+4930> 456 066 90 * ||----|| Germany Fax: <+4930> 456 066 91/92 ~~ ~~ From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 09:21:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29662 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29657 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id LAA00853; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199703141650.LAA00853@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:50:55 -0500 (EST) Cc: koshy@india.hp.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Warner Losh" at Mar 14, 97 07:53:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Either FreeBSD has gotten bigger, or something is slower with the new > kernel. It normally takes 10-10:30 before.... Hopefully the machine > I ordered last night will make this faster (PPro-180 + 2940UW + fast > disks + 64M + SuperMicro P6SNS). > I think that there are still some FreeBSD enhancements that haven't made it over (some name cache improvements.) This weekend, my project is nullfs and I will also look into the performance issue that you have mentioned. John From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 11:19:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06331 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06326 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA01611; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:18:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:18:58 -0500 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9703141918.AA01611@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Intel Xpress motherboards? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I seem to remember seeing a fix pass by that would cause Intel Xpress (server division) motherboards to work right. We're trying to get one to work, but unfortunately the SCSI chips (Adaptec 7xxx) seem to be on the other PCI bus, which the kernel does not appear to see. Alternatively, when can we have proper PCI support that uses the PCI BIOS (if present) to do its dirty work? -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 11:53:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08167 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from kvikk.uit.no (kvikk.Uit.No [129.242.4.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08162 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sprint.cc.uit.no (sprint.Cc.Uit.No [129.242.5.198]) by kvikk.uit.no (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06725; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 20:53:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from slibo.cc.uit.no (slibo.Cc.Uit.No [129.242.5.36]) by sprint.cc.uit.no (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08331; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 20:53:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (terjem@localhost) by slibo.cc.uit.no (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22300; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 20:53:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703141953.UAA22300@slibo.cc.uit.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Garrett Wollman cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Xpress motherboards? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:18:58 MET." <9703141918.AA01611@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 20:53:06 +0100 From: Terje Normann Marthinussen Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I seem to remember seeing a fix pass by that would cause Intel Xpress >(server division) motherboards to work right. We're trying to get one >to work, but unfortunately the SCSI chips (Adaptec 7xxx) seem to be on >the other PCI bus, which the kernel does not appear to see. Ouch. This is something I should have done for a long time.. but you know... First you don't have time. Then your too unmotivated, and just when motivation comes along, someone fills up work until its flooding around your ears. This is a dual pci + eisa bus motherboard, right? The quick hack fix I've used: You have to get a kernel recompiled either using a controller that freebsd can find, or compile it on some other machine (I installed the entire system on another machine first time I got our HP LS 4/133 up). vi /usr/src/sys/pci/pci. change: pciroots = 1; while (pciroots--) { to: pciroots = 2; while (pciroots--) { and off you go. The correct fix? Got it outlined by someone here earlier. It's a bit more work. I probably have to do it before June unless someone else does it. Right now though, I don't have time to enter the world of pci bus/chip magic. Terje Marthinussen terjem@cc.uit.no From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 13:07:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12060 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [208.131.56.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12047 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:07:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from devnull (devnull.calweb.com [208.131.56.69]) by mail.calweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28634 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:04:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970314130536.00ae3660@pop.calweb.com> Warning: Unsolicited Commercial Email (UCE) will be returned to send in bulk X-Sender: jfesler@pop.calweb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:05:36 -0800 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Jason Fesler Subject: fidonet? [don't laugh!] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm about ready to {b/t}urn the OS2 box into a FreeBSD box.. Has anyone managed to work out decent fidonet support whatsoever? I need to get a mailer and mail tosser working for Fight-o-net. If worse comes to worse I can do it on the Windows box, but that direction is highly desirable (it would be the wife's machine, and she's *really* less than enthusiastic about me taking it over ;-). -- Jason Fesler jfesler@calweb.com Internic: 'whois jf319' Admin, CalWeb Internet Services http://www.calweb.com Junk email returned, in bulk, back to sender; w/copies to all postmasters. You got junk mail problems? Use Eudora Pro, MSIE's mail, or 'man procmail'. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 14:51:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16682 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16677 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA14463 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:51:17 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17737; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:24:02 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970314232401.SB29763@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:24:01 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libraries References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Warner Losh on Mar 14, 1997 08:28:54 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Warner Losh wrote: > my used space on /usr just went way down after the install. > One place that this happened was in /usr/lib where I now have a > bunch of things like libutil.so.2.0, 2.1 and 2.2 (as well as 1.0). > If I understand the ldd we have, I can kill the 2.0 and 2.1 and life > will be good, no? Yep, you can. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 14:53:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16806 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16790 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA14512; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:53:19 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA18939; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:33:22 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970314233321.CM54878@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:33:21 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: scrappy@hub.org (The Hermit Hacker) Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup.freebsd.org down? References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Mar 14, 1997 13:04:14 -0400 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Anyone know if its down? I haven't heard any mentions of it, but > I'm getting: > > hub# !cv > cvsup -L1 current.cvsup > TRANS(SocketINETConnect) () can't connect: errno = 61 :-)) May i pass you today's pointing hat? Don't worry, i fell into this trap just a couple of days ago... TRANS(SocketINETConnect) is a message from the Xlib client that it can't establish the transport layer to the Xserver. Use -g if you don't wanna have the X11 interface but have a $DISPLAY variable around. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 15:46:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19451 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19446 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) id PAA07857; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:44:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:44:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703142344.PAA07857@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> To: imp@village.org CC: current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Warner Losh on Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:28:54 -0700) Subject: Re: libraries From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I can kill the 2.0 and 2.1 and life will be good, no? Just wanting a sanity Yes. While you're there, move the 1.* libraries out of the way and recompile everything that complains. Then you can delete those too. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 16:43:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23382 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23370 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02781; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:43:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703150043.QAA02781@austin.polstra.com> To: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. No dice. Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:43:27 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian and everybody, Sorry I missed this when I was on vacation: In article , Brian N. Handy wrote: > > [GDB falls over with:] > > >make: don't know how to make gdb.1. Stop > [...] > > The people with the whole CVS tree seem to be able to compile this > willy-nilly. > > Those of us that just get a src tree (/usr/src) and 'make world' are > missing the following files: > > gdb.1 > gdbinst.texinfo You are right -- this problem is real. (BTW, it's "gdbint.texinfo".) The RCS files are invalid, and that is causing CVSup to omit them from RELENG_2_2 in checkout mode. In each case, the tag in the RCS file points to revision 1.2.0.2. This signifies the latest revision on the 1.2.2 branch, or revision 1.2 if there is no such branch. (The 0 is a special CVS thing.) These files don't have a 1.2 revision. I'm 99% sure that the 1.2 revisions used to exist but were removed by Peter's recent $FreeBSD$ manipulations. The tags weren't updated correspondingly, and that is the cause of the problem. I'm reluctant to label it a CVSup bug, since the RCS files themselves are indisputably bogus. A "cvs checkout" does the right thing, true, but I'm pretty sure that's by accident rather than by design. I have asked Peter to take a look at the offending RCS files and fix them. If he turns up missing for 24 hours or so, I'll fix them myself. Thanks for your patience. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 17:27:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26844 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26780 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA18161; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:25:33 -0800 Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23711; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:25:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:25:32 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: The Hermit Hacker cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSup.freebsd.org down? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm seeing premature eof from your client in the logs. Let me know if you still have trouble after trying Joerg's suggestion (and upgrading to CVSup 14.1.1 if you haven't already :) Regards, -Chris On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Hi... > > Anyone know if its down? I haven't heard any mentions of it, but > I'm getting: > > hub# !cv > cvsup -L1 current.cvsup > TRANS(SocketINETConnect) () can't connect: errno = 61 > > When I try to connect, altho I can ping the machine :( > > > > From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 17:30:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27187 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-14.netcom.ca [207.181.94.78]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27174 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA26159 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:30:12 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:30:12 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: make world fails on libstdc++ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... After waiting for the first announcement that make world goes through to the end, I cvsup'd in the newest source tree and proceeded to build. I don't recall seeing anything mentioned in the lists about: c++ -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/include/g++ -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libio -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../. ./contrib/libg++/libstdc++ -fno-implicit-templates -DC -DEXTRACT -DINSERT -DGETLINE -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++/sinst.cc -o cstrio.o /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++/sinst.cc:146: no matching template for `getline(istream &, basic_string > &)' found Has anyone seen this/know how to fix it? Thanks... From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 17:32:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27519 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-14.netcom.ca [207.181.94.78]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27497 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA26174; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:31:52 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:31:52 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Chris Timmons cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSup.freebsd.org down? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Chris Timmons wrote: > > I'm seeing premature eof from your client in the logs. Let me know if you > still have trouble after trying Joerg's suggestion (and upgrading to > CVSup 14.1.1 if you haven't already :) > -g fixed it :( > Regards, > -Chris > > On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > > Hi... > > > > Anyone know if its down? I haven't heard any mentions of it, but > > I'm getting: > > > > hub# !cv > > cvsup -L1 current.cvsup > > TRANS(SocketINETConnect) () can't connect: errno = 61 > > > > When I try to connect, altho I can ping the machine :( > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 17:51:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28697 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28581 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:47:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bsdcur@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) id DAA12387; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 03:44:33 +0200 (EET) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199703150144.DAA12387@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: Yippie! It worked... In-Reply-To: <199703141552.IAA00249@rover.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Mar 14, 97 08:52:54 am" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 03:44:33 +0200 (EET) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Make world completed at 8:38 after 12:08. It hung on reboot, but that > may have been due adding the cdrom changer. After that, it seems to > be working now... works for me too, cvsup:ed from internat.freebsd.org my system is ide drives, p133, make world seems to be getting bigger. and i could not miss the fact that it seemed to be in a good shape, not really much warnings, specially kernel compiled clean. and unlike earlier w works now after the 'world' thanx dev-people. =) (even tho my nice 22 days uptime was ruined :p) > Warner mickey From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 19:04:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01322 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01312 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id DAA15463; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 03:02:03 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:02:03 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: A JOSEPH KOSHY cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-Reply-To: <199703141421.AA248149263@fakir.india.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, A JOSEPH KOSHY wrote: > A question: is the 4.4 BSD Lite2 source being worked on by anyone? Will > there ever be a Lite3? People say Kirk McKusick is working on soft updates as a contractor to BSDI. Case 1: The release of these kind of enhancements would delayed long enough to give them a "competitive advantage". Case 2: The enhancements will be considered their proprietary "value-add" indefinitely and things will diverge more than ever. Regards, Mike From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 14 23:48:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09752 for current-outgoing; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from grackle.grondar.za (kLjX00jD9B6b8h7ud3B7bzqJMi8X9PuN@grackle.grondar.za [196.7.18.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09747 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from grackle.grondar.za (i928cktjcR159bTt+/vUFXCqvECxRXx1@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grackle.grondar.za (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA17866; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 09:48:02 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199703150748.JAA17866@grackle.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libraries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 09:47:58 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As J"org Wunsh wrote: > As Warner Losh wrote: > > > my used space on /usr just went way down after the install. > > One place that this happened was in /usr/lib where I now have a > > bunch of things like libutil.so.2.0, 2.1 and 2.2 (as well as 1.0). > > If I understand the ldd we have, I can kill the 2.0 and 2.1 and life > > will be good, no? > > Yep, you can. I have limited disk space, and more limited $$$, so to force my system to be "lean and clean", about every 2-3 months I do the following: 1) Make world, Make and install new kernel, rebuild all ports that I use. 2) Nuke all older versions of all shared libraries. 3) Go on a seek-and-destroy mission, looking for old crap on the disk nuke. I have a "nuke on sight" policy for shared libraries that go out of date (minor version). If they go out of date (major version change) then I move them to .../lib/compat. This dir gets blasted at the next step 1). M -- Mark Murray PGP key fingerprint = 80 36 6E 40 83 D6 8A 36 This .sig is umop ap!sdn. BC 06 EA 0E 7A F2 CE CE From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 00:04:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10286 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10281 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA08538; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:01:56 -0800 (PST) To: Michael Hancock cc: A JOSEPH KOSHY , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:02:03 +0900." Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:01:55 -0800 Message-ID: <8534.858412915@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > People say Kirk McKusick is working on soft updates as a contractor to > BSDI. He is. David and he were talking about this tonite and since I was only listening with half an ear, I'll let David share any pertinent comments he may have for himself. > Case 1: The release of these kind of enhancements would delayed > long enough to give them a "competitive advantage". > > Case 2: The enhancements will be considered their proprietary "value-add" > indefinitely and things will diverge more than ever. Case 3: BSDI & Kirk actually do this openly and allow the other *BSDs to pick up the work in a timely fashion. I have reason to believe that #3 may be a distinct possibility. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 00:41:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA11487 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA11482 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id IAA16618; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 08:38:47 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:38:47 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: A JOSEPH KOSHY , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-Reply-To: <8534.858412915@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 15 Mar 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > People say Kirk McKusick is working on soft updates as a contractor to > > BSDI. > > He is. David and he were talking about this tonite and since I was > only listening with half an ear, I'll let David share any pertinent > comments he may have for himself. > > > Case 1: The release of these kind of enhancements would delayed > > long enough to give them a "competitive advantage". > > > > Case 2: The enhancements will be considered their proprietary "value-add" > > indefinitely and things will diverge more than ever. > > Case 3: BSDI & Kirk actually do this openly and allow the other *BSDs > to pick up the work in a timely fashion. > > I have reason to believe that #3 may be a distinct possibility. That would be very cool of BSDI and most likely benefit them too. Regarding "Lite3" I don't think there will be one because: 1) The CSRG team has been disbanded. The VM guy and the ports guy are with BSDI and the FS/VM guy is freelance. 2) David and John are the care takers of the kernel VM in FreeBSD. Mike Karels, I think, is the care taker of the VM in BSDI. Things like how mmap coherency are implemented are probably a little different. I haven't had a chance to look at BSDI's source recently and no one talks about it on the BSDI lists so I can't be sure, but I think the approach is different. Regards, Mike Hancock From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 01:19:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12487 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (labs.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12481 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from davidn@localhost) by labs.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05709; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:19:44 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19970315201943.29293@usn.blaze.net.au> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:19:43 +1100 From: David Nugent To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: -current build Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ===> ldd ===> rtld ===> ldconfig ===> ldd ===> rtld ld -o ld.so -Bshareable -Bsymbolic -assert nosymbolic -nostdlib -L/u1/dest/usr/ lib mdprologue.o rtld.o malloc.o shlib.o md.o support.o sbrk.o -lc_pic -lgcc_pic ld: -lc_pic: no match *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 This is with DESTDIR pointing to a separate (clean) hierachy. David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia Voice +61-3-9791-9547 Data/BBS +61-3-9792-3507 3:632/348@fidonet davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 01:25:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12707 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from bofh.cybercity.dk (bofh.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12702 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (phk.cybercity.dk [195.8.133.247]) by bofh.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16798; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:27:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA03168; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:28:07 +0100 (MET) To: Michael Hancock cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , A JOSEPH KOSHY , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:38:47 +0900." Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:28:06 +0100 Message-ID: <3166.858418086@critter.dk.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Regarding "Lite3" I don't think there will be one because: > 0) Kirk has said stated with pondus & pashion that he was ***>NEVER<*** going to do any sort of release work again. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 01:30:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12923 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12912 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (root@asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id KAA28373 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:29:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from plm.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id KAA18845 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:19:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from plm@localhost) by plm.xs4all.nl (8.8.4/8.7.3) id KAA24385; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:01:17 +0100 (MET) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: why /usr/libexec/cc* static? From: Peter Mutsaers Date: 15 Mar 1997 10:01:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87n2s5msv9.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.25/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I just did a make world again, with current (without any problems for the first time since the Lite-2 merge started!). I noted that /usr/libexec/cc* (the C compiler passes) are linked statically, and wonder why? cpp and cc itself are linked dynamically, so it's not as if one could recompile libc in case something would be wrong with libc.so etc. -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality ) ^ ( plm@xs4all.nl | the Netherlands | for other people to have From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 02:23:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA14754 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14743 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id CAA19220 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id KAA10479 for FreeBSD.ORG!current; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:16:29 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:05:50 GMT Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:05:50 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bob Bishop Subject: It's all true! Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just worlded CTM src-cur.2805 (in 11:44 on a 486). -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 02:26:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA14871 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14865 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id VAA32658; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:24:56 +1100 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:24:56 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703151024.VAA32658@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -current build Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >===> ldd >===> rtld >===> ldconfig >===> ldd >===> rtld >ld -o ld.so -Bshareable -Bsymbolic -assert nosymbolic -nostdlib -L/u1/dest/usr/ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >lib mdprologue.o rtld.o malloc.o shlib.o md.o support.o sbrk.o -lc_pic -lgcc_pic > >ld: -lc_pic: no match >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >This is with DESTDIR pointing to a separate (clean) hierachy. Apparently it is too clean. libc_pic.a should already have been installed in /u1/dest/usr/lib. I saw similar problems when I tried making -nostdlib the default in bsd.lib.mk and bsd.prog.mk. Here rtld/Makefile shoots itself in the foot by overriding the default `${PROG}' target to just add -nostdlib if there is a DESTDIR (the default target already has -L${DESTDIR}/usr/lib). It should set LDONLY and use the default target. However, I think my problem was caused by cc -nostdlib breaking gcc's support for crt0.a and libgcc.a. It's not clear how bsd.prog.mk could know about libgcc.a. There is now a new problem handling /usr/libdata/gcc. The path is not affected by ${DESTDIR}. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 02:30:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15088 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15055 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01247; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:29:43 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199703151029.LAA01247@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: why /usr/libexec/cc* static? In-Reply-To: <87n2s5msv9.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> from Peter Mutsaers at "Mar 15, 97 10:01:14 am" To: plm@xs4all.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:29:43 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Peter, > Hello, > > I just did a make world again, with current (without any problems for > the first time since the Lite-2 merge started!). > > I noted that /usr/libexec/cc* (the C compiler passes) are linked > statically, and wonder why? cpp and cc itself are linked dynamically, > so it's not as if one could recompile libc in case something would be > wrong with libc.so etc. > Here is the answer: (cvs log Makefile ...) RCS file: /usr/cvsroot/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1/Makefile,v Working file: Makefile [...] head: 1.11 [...] ---------------------------- revision 1.7 date: 1995/10/01 20:16:27; author: davidg; state: Exp; lines: +2 -1 Build cc1 nonshared. This actually results in it consuming 40K *less* disk space and improves compile times by a few percent. ---------------------------- Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 02:42:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15724 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from X2.root.com (X2.root.com [198.145.90.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15719 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from X2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by X2.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01512; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:40:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703151040.CAA01512@X2.root.com> To: Michael Hancock cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:02:03 +0900." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:40:04 -0800 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, A JOSEPH KOSHY wrote: > >> A question: is the 4.4 BSD Lite2 source being worked on by anyone? Will >> there ever be a Lite3? > >People say Kirk McKusick is working on soft updates as a contractor to >BSDI. > >Case 1: The release of these kind of enhancements would delayed >long enough to give them a "competitive advantage". > >Case 2: The enhancements will be considered their proprietary "value-add" >indefinitely and things will diverge more than ever. In the numerous times that I've spoken with Kirk in person regarding his work on the soft updates stuff, I've never gotten the impression that he intended anything other than providing the work to everyone (including us) as soon as he was finished. In fact I spoke with him just earlier this evening about it (at a sort of "Sushi" party that Jordan and I were at along with Kirk), and he said that the only reason he hasn't released it yet is because it occasionally panics and he doesn't want to give out known broken code. ...so anyway, the answer is "none of the above" to your "case 1" and "case 2" above. As to the original question about a lite/3, I'm told "definately not". ...but then, they said that about lite/2, too. :-) -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 03:13:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA17114 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 03:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from peedub.gj.org (newpc.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17109 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 03:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from peedub.gj.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.gj.org (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA02105 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:12:34 GMT Message-Id: <199703151212.MAA02105@peedub.gj.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It's all true! Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:05:50 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:12:34 +0000 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bob Bishop writes: >Just worlded CTM src-cur.2805 (in 11:44 on a 486). > doesn't work for me with CTM 2806. Maybe because I'm using DESTDIR ? --- Gary Jennejohn Home - Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de Work - gjennejohn@frt.dec.com From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 05:11:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA23051 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail0.iij.ad.jp (mail0.iij.ad.jp [202.232.2.113]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23046 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from uucp2.iij.ad.jp (uucp2.iij.ad.jp [202.232.2.202]) by mail0.iij.ad.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wpl4-MAIL) with SMTP id WAA01375 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:11:04 +0900 (JST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp2.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-UUCP) with UUCP id WAA26627 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:11:04 +0900 Received: from tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp (tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp [192.168.1.2]) by tydfam.iijnet.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4W2-uucp) with ESMTP id WAA07569 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:09:04 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp (localhost.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wnomx) with SMTP id WAA00306 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:09:03 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199703151309.WAA00306@tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp> X-Authentication-Warning: tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp: localhost.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Q) kernel source bug?? Reply-To: ken@tydfam.iijnet.or.jp X-Mailer: Mew version 1.52 on Emacs 19.34.2, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:09:02 +0900 From: Takeshi Yamada Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I succeded in 'make world' with 3.0-current (Mar. 15th, 0000GMT), but I can't compile kernel at least as follows. There seems two 'blksize' definitions under /sys/ufs. # make depend : : : : reg_compare.c ../../gnu/i386/fpemul/reg_constant.c ../../gnu/i386/fpemul/reg_ld_str.c ../../gnu/i386/fpemul/reg_mul.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c vnode_if.c config.c ../../ufs/lfs/lfs_subr.c:74: macro `blksize' used with too many (3) args In file included from ../../ufs/lfs/lfs_vnops.c:229: ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_readwrite.c:110: macro `blksize' used with too many (3) args ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_readwrite.c:269: macro `blksize' used with too many (3) args mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 # find /usr/src/sys/ufs -print -exec egrep blksize \{\} \; : : : ./ffs/ffs_balloc.c osize = blksize(fs, ip, nb); ./ffs/ffs_inode.c size = blksize(fs, oip, lbn); bsize = blksize(fs, oip, i); oldspace = blksize(fs, oip, lastblock); newspace = blksize(fs, oip, lastblock); ./ffs/ffs_subr.c bsize = blksize(fs, ip, lbn); ./ffs/fs.h * information in the inode, using the ``blksize(fs, ip, lbn)'' macro. #define blksize(fs, ip, lbn) \ #define dblksize(fs, dip, lbn) \ ./lfs/lfs.h #define blksize(fs) ((fs)->lfs_bsize) ./lfs/lfs_inode.c size = blksize(fs); ./lfs/lfs_subr.c bsize = blksize(fs, ip, lbn); ./ufs/ufs_readwrite.c #define BLKSIZE(a, b, c) blksize(a, b, c) #define BLKSIZE(a, b, c) blksize(a, b, c) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 06:35:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA24909 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 06:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from whale.gu.kiev.ua (whale.gu.net [194.93.190.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24892 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 06:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from trifork.gu.net (trifork.gu.net [194.93.190.194]) by whale.gu.kiev.ua (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA135572; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:34:09 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:33:58 +0200 (EET) From: Andrew Stesin Reply-To: stesin@gu.net To: Jason Fesler cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fidonet? [don't laugh!] In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970314130536.00ae3660@pop.calweb.com> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: ua.gu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Jason Fesler wrote: > I'm about ready to {b/t}urn the OS2 box into a FreeBSD box.. > Has anyone managed to work out decent fidonet support whatsoever? There is a really good FIDO package around, the name is: ifmail written by Eugene Crosser AFAIK, current version is about 2.9 or so. Runs on Linux and FreeBSD nicely and does pretty much everything one may need. Best regards, Andrew Stesin nic-hdl: ST73-RIPE From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 11:36:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06011 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06006 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA04616; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:20:47 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199703151920.MAA04616@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:20:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: michaelh@cet.co.jp, koshy@india.hp.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8534.858412915@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 15, 97 00:01:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Case 3: BSDI & Kirk actually do this openly and allow the other *BSDs > to pick up the work in a timely fashion. > > I have reason to believe that #3 may be a distinct possibility. I would be more confident of this prospect if FreeBSD had working login classes. For instance. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 12:17:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07550 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07534 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA15021 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:16:50 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA16810; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:16:16 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970315211616.SP21471@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:16:16 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. References: <8534.858412915@time.cdrom.com> <199703151920.MAA04616@phaeton.artisoft.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703151920.MAA04616@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mar 15, 1997 12:20:47 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Terry Lambert wrote: > > I have reason to believe that #3 may be a distinct possibility. > > I would be more confident of this prospect if FreeBSD had working > login classes. > > For instance. Or a working doscmd. For instance. :-( -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 12:24:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07792 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07788 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from campa.panke.de (anonymous213.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.213]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA16681; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:54:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA02047; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:56:23 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:56:23 +0100 Message-Id: <199703151756.SAA02047@campa.panke.de> From: Wolfram Schneider To: Peter Wemm Cc: Bruce Evans , helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.info.mk In-Reply-To: <199703131112.TAA13938@spinner.DIALix.COM> References: <199703130848.TAA03874@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <199703131112.TAA13938@spinner.DIALix.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Wemm writes: >> >The bsd.info.mk created com_err.info instead of com_err.info.gz in >> >/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libcom_err. > >Something is wrong.. The "com_err.info.gz not found" was what the second >last commit (rev 1.33) was supposed to fix. The "zero length result" change >(rev 1.34) was in cases where texinfo files fail to build but make thinks >that they did. It was rev 1.32 (by "wosch") that caused the first >breakage that I can see. As far as I can tell, the breakage was not >detected because either because of the brokenness in -current, or because >it was tested with "NOINFOCOMPRESS" active. I did not do a full test for bsd.info.mk because there is a silly `@(cd /usr/src/share/info; make install)' line in bsd.info.mk. I don't want checkout all sources for a simple change. Gruß Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 13:07:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09724 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09713 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA18284 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:07:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703152107.OAA18284@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: current-digest V3 #40 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:17:34 PST." <199703152017.MAA07561@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:07:40 -0700 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, >] Have you checked this yet? >] >] http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html > >Thanks, that was the information I was looking for :-) > >Now I've followed the instructions on configuring an SMP kernel and >successfully bootet it, it seems that the machine is slower than >before while running on one processor only... any Ideas regarding that? because you are paying all the penalties for scheduling 2 CPUs without getting any of the benefits (ie a 2nd CPU to schedule!) I suggest you move this thread to smp@freebsd.org -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 15:02:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA14437 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 15:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14428 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 15:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA04534; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:01:57 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703152301.QAA04534@rover.village.org> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:16:16 +0100." <19970315211616.SP21471@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <19970315211616.SP21471@uriah.heep.sax.de> <8534.858412915@time.cdrom.com> <199703151920.MAA04616@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:01:56 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19970315211616.SP21471@uriah.heep.sax.de> J Wunsch writes: : Or a working doscmd. For instance. :-( Question: IF I had a working doscmd, would it be able to run Windows binaries? Or am I better off with Wine? Warner From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 16:25:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05105 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05084 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id QAA13864; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:24:41 -0800 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:24:41 -0800 From: Sean Eric Fagan Message-Id: <199703160024.QAA13864@kithrup.com> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. Newsgroups: kithrup.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: <19970315211616.SP21471.kithrup.freebsd.current@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <199703151920.MAA04616@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mar 15, 1997 12:20:47 -0700 Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <19970315211616.SP21471.kithrup.freebsd.current@uriah.heep.sax.de> you write: >Or a working doscmd. For instance. :-( We do have a working (more or less) doscmd. We've had doscmd sources from BSDi for a long time now. Only three people have ever bothered doing anything with them (me, msmith, and jlemon). Exactly *what* do you think BSDi could have done to make it easier, since they gave us the source code to doscmd, some kernel code, and dealt with the questions we asked them about it? You want a working doscmd, show some interest. Despite many, many messages by myself and msmith, nobody has come back with, "Thanks for doing this, I was able to do something I needed to do with it!" or even, "It paniced my system, so I can't use it." I've gotten email from *six* different people about this -- three of whom are msmith, jlemon, and jkh. Two of the others said they would be willing to do work, but never followed up, and the last person assured me that, yes, he wanted DOS emulation. And has never been heard from again. Sean. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 22:48:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11637 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11628 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA17030 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:31:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:31:30 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley To: current@freebsd.org Subject: can only mount wd0s1a (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message has also been posted to -questions ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:33:59 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: can only mount wd0s1a (fwd) Here's some more info regarding this problem: On bootup (I get the same results w/ kernel.GENERIC): ... npx0: INT 16 interface pas0 at 0x388irq 6 on isa pas0: joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick swapon: /dev/wd0s1b: No such file or directory Automatic reboot in progress... /dev/rwd0a: clean, 9590 free (198 frags 1174 blocks, 0.5% fragmantation) /dev/wd2se: No such file or directory Can't stat /dev/wd2s1e Autoatic file system check failed... help! Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh: erase ^h, kill ^u intr ^c # mount -av /dev/wd0a on / (loacl) /dev/wd2s1e on /backup: No such file or directory /dev/wd0s1f on /usr: No such file or directory /dev/wdos1e on /var: No such file or directory procfs on /proc (local) # ls /dev/wd0* /dev/wd0 /dev/wd0c /dev/wd0f /dev/wd0s1 /dev/wd0s4 /dev/wd0a /dev/wd0d /dev/wd0g /dev/wd0s2 /dev/wd0b /dev/wd0e /dev/wd0h /dev/wd0s3 # ls /dev/wd2* [exactly the same as wd0 except replace the 0 with a 2] FYI: All the info above has been typed by hand on my notebook (cripled with Lose95). When I try to manually mount any of the filesystems this is what I get: # mount/backup /dev/wd2s1e on /backup: No such file or directory ---------------------------- Help! Yesterday I upgraded my MB (to ASUS P/I P55T2P4), CPU (to P133) and videocard (to Matrox Mystque w/4meg). Everything came up fine (except my plug-n-pray Supra Express 28.8i modem). I was able to run make world 4 times succesfully. I then shutdown the system for about 3-4 hours. Now when I attempt to boot the system all my hardware is identified correctly except when it's time to mount my files systems. Somehow the system can only find /dev/wd0s1a. All the other files systems report: No such file or directory. The system can't find my swap (/dev/wd01b) /usr (/dev/wdos1f) /var (/dev/wd0s1e) or /backup (/dev/wd2s1e) filesystems. After telling me the filesystems don't exist I get the following message: Filesystem mount failed, startup aborted Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh: So I enter the sh. I checked the disklabel for both drives and they look fine (using disklabel -r /dev/rwd0). Any idea what's going on and how do I recover? FYI I'm using 3.0 -current (last CVSUP date = 97.02.10.00.00.00) Thanks in advance. Burton Sampley email: bsampley@best.com or bsampley@haywire.csuhayward.edu