From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 01:21:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA23491 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA23486 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA15143; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:21:42 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17679; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:17:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970413101756.QB15885@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:17:56 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Current Mailing List) Cc: rlb@mindspring.com (Ron Bolin) Subject: Re: IPFILTER 2.2RELENG_2_2 Broke References: <33504778.48E6@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <33504778.48E6@mindspring.com>; from Ron Bolin on Apr 12, 1997 22:39:52 -0400 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ron Bolin wrote: > Is there any plan to integrate ipfilter into 2.2.X like > 3.0 is in contrib? Once it's in a fully functional state, yes. This requires someone who's got a clue about all this (and can test it) to pick up proff's patches, and commit them. As soon as people report that it is working well in -current (including the LKM _and_ a statically compiled version), it's time to think about tagging/merging it into RELENG_2_2. If i'm not mistaken, Darren is currently doing a major overhaul of the code anyway, which will eventually result in a new version. So it's quite possible that the merge into the 2.2 branch will happen after an upgrade of the code in -current. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 02:19:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA25674 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA25667 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id KAA11406; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:15:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:13:24 +0100 X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:10:59 +0100 To: Warner Losh From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: make world from 2.1.6R buys the farm many times Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 12:01 am +0100 13/4/97, Warner Losh wrote: >There are boatloads of problems installing 2.1.6R and then hoping a >make world will get you current. > >Is there any interest in fixing them? I did this bootstrap quite recently, and I logged (I think) everything I had to fix up. IIRC it was all headers... -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 03:49:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA27692 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 03:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from originat.demon.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27687 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 03:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from paul@localhost) by originat.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA02012; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:52:59 +0100 (BST) To: Geoff Mohler Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trivial Nit-Pick Of The Week. References: From: Paul Richards Date: 13 Apr 1997 11:52:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: Geoff Mohler's message of Fri, 11 Apr 1997 08:52:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <8767xr9otz.fsf@originat.demon.co.uk> Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Geoff Mohler writes: > > /usr/include/malloc.h:2: warning: #warning "this file includes which is obsoleted, use instead" > > Shouldn't cpp emit a more sensible: > > /usr/include/malloc.h:2: #warning "this file includes which is obsoleted, use instead" > Since it's "Trivial Nit-Pick Of The Week" I'll point out that there's no such word as "obsoleted", it should either be "obsolete" or more appropriately "deprecated". -- Dr Paul Richards, Originative Solutions Ltd. Internet: paul@originat.demon.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (UK Mobile) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 03:52:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA27840 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 03:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27835 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 03:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA15400; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 03:52:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Paul Richards cc: Geoff Mohler , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trivial Nit-Pick Of The Week. In-reply-to: Your message of "13 Apr 1997 11:52:56 BST." <8767xr9otz.fsf@originat.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 03:52:37 -0700 Message-ID: <15397.860928757@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Since it's "Trivial Nit-Pick Of The Week" I'll point out that there's > no such word as "obsoleted", it should either be "obsolete" or more > appropriately "deprecated". Well.. You have commit privileges, Mr. Language person*. :-) Jordan * A reference to Dave Barry which some may or may not get. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 05:49:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA02452 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 05:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (max66-29.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.66.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02447 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 05:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01359; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:48:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199704131248.OAA01359@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Trivial Nit-Pick Of The Week. In-Reply-To: <8767xr9otz.fsf@originat.demon.co.uk> from Paul Richards at "Apr 13, 97 11:52:56 am" To: paul@originat.demon.co.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:48:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Geoff Mohler writes: > > > > /usr/include/malloc.h:2: warning: #warning "this file includes which is obsoleted, use instead" > > > Shouldn't cpp emit a more sensible: > > > /usr/include/malloc.h:2: #warning "this file includes which is obsoleted, use instead" > > > > Since it's "Trivial Nit-Pick Of The Week" I'll point out that there's > no such word as "obsoleted", it should either be "obsolete" or more > appropriately "deprecated". Shouldn't it be "depreciated" ? ^ Wolfgang, "learning English by doing" From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 06:19:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03927 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [207.198.1.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03899; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07596; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:06:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199704131306.JAA07596@hda.hda.com> Subject: POSIX4 patches on freebsd.org To: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:06:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I put POSIX4 patches on freefall in ~ftp/pub/dufault/posix4.tgz for feedback. These are against current as of this morning. I have verified that they apply against current, and I've built world with the last iteration, but I haven't actually verified that you can build world with these patches applied against today's current. I'm interested in feedback at the moment. These add: 1. An infrastructure for plugging in POSIX4 optional pieces at the option level; 2. sysctl and sysconf support for POSIX4; 3. Access control to posix 4 option level functionality through a /dev/posix4, permitting scheduler or memory locking to be restricted and not only at the root level; 4. An implementation of _POSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING; 5. Some regression tests. If you do try to build this you'll need to manually create the new directory /usr/src/sys/posix4, add options "POSIX4" to your config and add -DPOSIX4 to your /etc/make.conf. After that you should be able to build and load the LKM in the "posix4" subdirectory of the distribution, build the library in "libposix4" and build the tests in "regress". As long as you don't include required but as yet non-existent headers unrelated to _POSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING and use only _POSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING functions this should work properly. What I'd like now is: 1. Some discussion of how this should be interfaced to the kernel. At the moment it is through an ioctl against a pseudo device. This is non-traditional and doesn't play well with ktrace. However, if every POSIX4 function gets a system call I need many new system calls. If every POSIX4 option gets a system call I need about 16 new system calls. Is there a limit of 255 in the number of system calls? 2. Review of the scheduler changes. 3. Review of whether it seems POSIX compliant. Where I go next is: 1. Modify to whatever we decide is the appropriate kernel interface. 2. Add all required POSIX4 headers. 3. Add man pages. Peter NB: DO NOT GROUP REPLY to this message as it is on two lists for announcement purposes. Follow up privately or to -hackers only. -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 06:36:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA04824 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04818 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14640; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199704131336.JAA14640@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Wolfgang Helbig Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trivial Nit-Pick Of The Week. In-Reply-To: <199704131248.OAA01359@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> References: <8767xr9otz.fsf@originat.demon.co.uk> <199704131248.OAA01359@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> appropriately "deprecated". > Shouldn't it be "depreciated" ? > ^ No, it should not. The OED defines `deprecate' as ``To plead earnestly against; to express an earnest wish against (a proceeding); to express earnest disapproval of (a course, plan, purpose, etc.).'' By contrast, `depreciate' means ``To lower in value, lessen the value of.'' -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 06:57:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA05767 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05744; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id IAA06898; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 08:57:24 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199704131357.IAA06898@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: POSIX4 patches on freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199704131306.JAA07596@hda.hda.com> from Peter Dufault at "Apr 13, 97 09:06:51 am" To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 08:57:24 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I put POSIX4 patches on freefall in ~ftp/pub/dufault/posix4.tgz for > feedback. > I happen to be super interested in POSIX4 right now. I am going to review right now. John From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 06:57:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA05810 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nvsgi1.netvision.net.il (nvsgi1.NetVision.net.il [194.90.1.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05753 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Burka.NetVision.net.il (gena@burka.NetVision.net.il [194.90.1.23]) by nvsgi1.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25538 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:56:37 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1-beta [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:45:57 +0300 (IDT) X-Face: #v>4HN>#D_"[olq9y`HqTYkLVB89Xy|3')Vs9v58JQ*u-xEJVKY`xa.}E?z0RkLI/P&;BJmi0#u=W0).-Y'J4(dw{"54NhSG|YYZG@[)(`e! >jN#L!~qI5fE-JHS+< Organization: NetVision Ltd. From: Gennady Sorokopud To: current@freebsd.org Subject: vfork() hangs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id GAA05802 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! After recompiling the latest kernel i suddenly discovered that xrdb hangs when i try to start the X server. After closer examination i found out that popen() was the culprit, which on it's turn uses vfork(). After replacing vfork with fork in popen.c (inside libc) things got back to normal. It looks really strange because vfork in my program works just fine... Also i'm having a few other problems with -current: - QUOTA does not work. Actually it does, but when i try to reboot the system panics. - reboot hangs. however rebooting from single-user mode works fine. - sometimes, when debugging a process with gdb , the debugged process gets stuck with DEX+ status in ps. I can kill gdb after that, but the program is stuck forever. - the system freezes every 5-10 hours (no panic). Here is my kernel configuration: # # BURKA -- my desktop machine # # $Id: BURKA,v 1.1 1995/01/26 11:38:00 gena Exp $ # machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" maxusers 20 ident BURKA options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast File System options PROCFS #Process File System #options QUOTA #enable disk quotas options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options UCONSOLE #X Console support config kernel root on sd0 swap on sd0 dumps on sd0 controller isa0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr controller pci0 controller ahc1 controller scbus0 device vx0 device sd0 pseudo-device snp 1 #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device bpfilter 1 #berkeley packet filter pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's And here is dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Apr 13 14:36:05 IDT 1997 gena@Burka.NetVision.net.il:/usr/src/sys/compile/BURKA CPU: Pentium (90.00-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 41943040 (40960K bytes) avail memory = 38965248 (38052K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 64 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:1:0 pci0:8: CMD, device=0x0640, class=storage (ide) int a irq 14 [no driver assigned] vga0 rev 0 int a irq ?? on pci0:9:0 vx0 <3COM 3C590 Etherlink III PCI> rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:11:0 utp[*utp*] address 00:20:af:f7:f2:dd Warning! Defective early revision adapter! ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:12:0 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 2069MB (4238836 512 byte sectors) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: utp[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:23:a2:8b npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. pid 285 (tcsh), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 7664 (tcsh), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 454 (tcsh), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Any ideas? Best regards. -------- Gennady B. Sorokopud - System programmer at NetVision Israel. E-Mail: Gennady Sorokopud PGP public key is available by fingering gena@netvision.net.il This message was sent at 13-Apr-97 16:45:57 by XFMail From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 09:25:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12567 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12562 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id CAA05070 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:22:02 +1000 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:22:02 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199704131622.CAA05070@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/include stdio.h Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >bde 97/04/13 08:50:08 > > Modified: include stdio.h > Log: > Removed nonstandard #include of . This may cause problems in (broken) ports. It has been tested for a few years in -current :-). Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 14:21:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24951 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA24937 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA24678 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:21:28 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10930; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:07:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970413230712.AV02454@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:07:12 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: ifconfig problem in -current X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After finally upgrading my machine to a post-Lite2 system, each ifconfig for my SLIP interface causes an error message. The system is usable nevertheless, but the error message is annoying. This didn't happen before the Lite2 integration (the scripts remained the same). This can easily be demonstrated: uriah # netstat -ran Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 6 2002 lo0 192.168 link#1 UC 0 0 192.168.0.1 0:a0:24:55:7a:c3 UHLW 0 22 lo0 As one can see, the routing table is almost empty, except a local network (that won't be routed to the outside). uriah # ifconfig -a vx0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ether 00:a0:24:55:7a:c3 sl0: flags=9010 mtu 552 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 (All irrelevant interfaces omitted for brevity.) Now, go and configure the SLIP interface: uriah # ifconfig sl0 193.175.26.65 193.175.26.94 netmask 0xffffffff ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists Hmm, so what? Which ``File'' (aka. route) does already exist? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 16:37:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA01032 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01027 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00472; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:37:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199704132337.TAA00472@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: X still broken? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Today was the day that I would finally get to test out a lot of changes to the networking code that I had planned. However, when I rebooted my machine, I found that X is still utterly broken. I don't think that my changes are to blame, since they are not actually functional, and in any case the rest of the machine appears to work Just Fine(tm). The symptom is very simple: any attempt to start the X server, whether through xdm or startx, puts the system in an infinite loop where the server starts, and then immediately shuts down and restarts, all the while locking up the keyboard so that one can't log in to kill it. Has anyone else seen these symptoms? FYI, here's what the network code update does: - pr_usrreq() is dead, gone, and buried. - those requests that might block or need user credentials are passed a process structure - SS_PRIV is DG&B. - the code in soo_select that knows about sockets is split out into a separate routine called soselect - sosend, soreceive, and soselect are never called directly, but only through the protocol, thus enabling shortcutting Once I finally manage to unload this batch of work, the next steps involve: - Getting rid of the places where mbufs are used to pass sockaddrs. - Writing a shortcut UDP implementation. - Doing some performance testing to demonstrate the difference. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 16:41:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA01131 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01126 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (taob@localhost) by tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04184; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:37:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: "Chris A. Mattingly" cc: Mark Mayo , Tom Bartol , FREEBSD-CURRENT-L Subject: Re: XFree86 3.2 causes constant 1.0 load average? In-Reply-To: <199704110432.EAA19522@heli-fishing.eos.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Chris A. Mattingly wrote: > > Something else I've noticed is that serial traffic via usermode ppp > causes the load to go higher than it used to.. but only some of the > times, kinda like the 1.0 load. :-/ Originally I thought it was user PPP as well, but I'm not running that on my work machine, and it has the load average problem as well. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 17:05:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02340 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [207.198.1.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02335 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08279; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:53:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199704132353.TAA08279@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: X still broken? In-Reply-To: <199704132337.TAA00472@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> from Garrett Wollman at "Apr 13, 97 07:37:49 pm" To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ... The symptom is very simple: any attempt to start the X > server, whether through xdm or startx, puts the system in an infinite > loop where the server starts, and then immediately shuts down and > restarts, all the while locking up the keyboard so that one can't log > in to kill it. I can't recommend this due to the wtmp changes, but I'm now running the X binaries (server and client) off the 2.1.6 CDROM without any unexpected problems. I had the CDROM here and didn't want to suffer through a dialup speed download. I don't know if this gives you a clue or not. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 17:25:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03276 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03271 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id TAA12650 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:25:22 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199704140025.TAA12650@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Need help from users of -current To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:25:22 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Current-crew: I have had a few reports of problems with vfork in -current. Would anyone who has *exactly* a current kernel give me some feedback as to how the system is working? (CTM might be out of sync -- I made an error in the initial commit.) I cannot reproduce the problem, and if it is there, then maybe I can figure out how to. Thanks!!! John From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 17:47:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05009 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05003 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id TAA12699 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:46:58 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199704140046.TAA12699@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Potential solution to problems with -current To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:46:58 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you are having problems with -current, try the following patch to kern_fork.c. If I get positive responses, and you are running absolutely the latest cvs code, then I'll put this mod in until I can find out what is wrong: *** kern_fork.c Sat Apr 12 20:48:24 1997 --- kern_fork.c.nv Sun Apr 13 19:45:30 1997 *************** *** 99,103 **** int retval[]; { ! return (fork1(p, (RFFDG|RFPROC|RFPPWAIT|RFMEM), retval)); } --- 99,103 ---- int retval[]; { ! return (fork1(p, (RFFDG|RFPROC|RFPPWAIT), retval)); } From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 19:17:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09098 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy1.ba.best.com (root@proxy1.ba.best.com [206.184.139.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09088 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsampley.vip.best.com (bsampley.vip.best.com [206.184.160.196]) by proxy1.ba.best.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA19091; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:13:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Burton Sampley To: Brian Tao cc: "Chris A. Mattingly" , Mark Mayo , Tom Bartol , FREEBSD-CURRENT-L Subject: Re: XFree86 3.2 causes constant 1.0 load average? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk That's kinda strange. I have been using 3.0-current and XFree86 3.2 for quite some time. I haven't experienced this problem. I'm using AcceleratedX as my X server. Even running Netscape doesn't cause a load greater than 0.60. I just CVSUP'd and did make world + recompiled my kernel on Friday night. My system is a ASUS P55-T2P4 P5-133 w/ 64MB EDO (non-parity), 2 EIDE HD's, ATAPI 8X CDROM and a Matrox Mystique w/ 4MB. BTW, what's the difference between each of the three load averages and what's the diff between SIZE & RES (you'll notice that Xaccel reports a RES =~ 3xSIZE)? Here's output from top: last pid: 3967; load averages: 0.50, 0.23, 0.09 19:01:08 35 processes: 1 running, 34 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.2% system, 0.0% interrupt, 98.8% idle Mem: 28M Active, 6676K Inact, 15M Wired, 5240K Cache, 7643K Buf, 7688K Free Swap: 64M Total, 5632K Used, 59M Free, 9% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 186 burton 2 0 5056K 16848K select 7:46 1.79% 1.79% Xaccel 3966 burton 2 0 2616K 3592K select 0:00 1.21% 0.95% emacs 3937 burton 2 0 11620K 6972K select 0:05 0.76% 0.76% netscape.bin 197 burton 18 0 656K 1572K pause 8:46 0.00% 0.00% xearth 1451 mailhost 18 0 288K 508K pause 0:01 0.00% 0.00% fetchmail 111 root 18 0 332K 404K pause 0:01 0.00% 0.00% cron 23 root 18 0 204K 0K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% adjkerntz 185 burton 10 0 172K 608K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xinit 161 burton 10 0 880K 480K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bash 206 burton 10 0 488K 92K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 210 burton 10 0 488K 92K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh [sniped] On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Brian Tao wrote: > On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Chris A. Mattingly wrote: > > > > Something else I've noticed is that serial traffic via usermode ppp > > causes the load to go higher than it used to.. but only some of the > > times, kinda like the 1.0 load. :-/ > > Originally I thought it was user PPP as well, but I'm not running > that on my work machine, and it has the load average problem as well. > -- > Brian Tao (BT300, taob@netcom.ca) > "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" > > --- Brought to you by a 100% Micro$oft free system. You too can disinfect your system at http://www.freebsd.org E-Mail: burton@bsampley.vip.best.com Alternate E-Mail: bsampley@haywire.csuhayward.edu Home Page: http://www.best.com/~bsampley (permanently under construction) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 22:01:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA15041 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.aceonline.com.au (obiwan.aceonline.com.au [203.103.90.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15035 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by obiwan.aceonline.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA00601; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:49:12 +0800 (WST) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:49:11 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: Garrett Wollman cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X still broken? In-Reply-To: <199704132337.TAA00472@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Today was the day that I would finally get to test out a lot of > changes to the networking code that I had planned. However, when I > rebooted my machine, I found that X is still utterly broken. I don't I'm running on sources supped about 12 hours ago, make world completed without a hitch, I rebooted and started X and its running great. (My X was from a 2.2 GAMMA release) Cya Adrian From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 13 23:13:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA18344 for current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18338 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0wGf1L-0006hD-00; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:13:43 -0600 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Make world hanging? Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:13:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just tried to do a make world twice in a row (the only change being booting a -current kernel after the last make world). ===> share ===> share/dict ===> share/doc ===> share/doc/FAQ sgmlfmt -f html /usr/src/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml It hung there for a good long time (at least two hours) before I hit ^C. I tried to do a make all and got the same hang. Has anybody else seen this? This is with CTM 3212, if that matters. I haven't seen anything that would cause this in the change logs, but maybe I missed something. I'll give CTM 3214..3217 depending on when they arrive and I get a chance to try this again. Warner P.S. I was trying to see the difference in make world times between 2.1.6R and -current on my new machine when I ran into this. -current seems to be slower, but the hang makes it hard to compare. And this is to a JAZ drive (which really slows things down). From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 00:12:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22002 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA21997 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id CAA00598; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:12:48 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199704140712.CAA00598@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Make world hanging? In-Reply-To: from Warner Losh at "Apr 14, 97 00:13:43 am" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:12:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just tried to do a make world twice in a row (the only change being > booting a -current kernel after the last make world). > > ===> share > ===> share/dict > ===> share/doc > ===> share/doc/FAQ > sgmlfmt -f html /usr/src/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > It hung there for a good long time (at least two hours) before I hit > ^C. I tried to do a make all and got the same hang. > > Has anybody else seen this? > I'll try to reproduce the problem... Per your other email, I think that there is a problem with popen (or equiv) working in an unexpected way. John From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 00:31:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA23207 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [207.198.1.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23201 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA08780; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 03:19:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199704140719.DAA08780@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: Make world hanging? In-Reply-To: from Warner Losh at "Apr 14, 97 00:13:43 am" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 03:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just tried to do a make world twice in a row (the only change being > booting a -current kernel after the last make world). > > ===> share > ===> share/dict > ===> share/doc > ===> share/doc/FAQ > sgmlfmt -f html /usr/src/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > It hung there for a good long time (at least two hours) before I hit > ^C. I tried to do a make all and got the same hang. > > Has anybody else seen this? Yes, "instant" is hanging while formatting some documents. After killing a few of them the build is continuing. Probably related: I notice that something in the man pipeline is hanging. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 00:36:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA23505 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23499 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00423 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:39:50 +0200 (CEST) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: ISODEVMAP in cd9660 ? From: phk@dk.tfs.com Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:39:49 +0200 Message-ID: <421.860999989@critter> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody know a good reason for not nuking the "ISODEVMAP" stuff in cd9660 ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 00:48:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA24323 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA24312 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA01382 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:48:32 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00898; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:36:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970414093642.IX24704@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:36:42 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make world hanging? References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Warner Losh on Apr 14, 1997 00:13:43 -0600 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Warner Losh wrote: > ===> share/doc/FAQ > sgmlfmt -f html /usr/src/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > It hung there for a good long time (at least two hours) before I hit > ^C. I tried to do a make all and got the same hang. > > Has anybody else seen this? In which state did it hang? If it's `piperd', i bet it's the same vfork() problem as other people are seeing. I've experienced it myself for xrdb. John has made a stop-gap commit since to avoid the problem, so maybe you should upgrade your kernel again before the make world. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 01:19:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA25488 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 01:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from novell.com (prv-mail20.Provo.Novell.COM [137.65.40.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA25483 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 01:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INET-PRV-Message_Server by novell.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:18:38 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:30:45 -0600 From: Ram Madduluri To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Is there a Solaris x86 port of CVSup?? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks, I am wondering if anyone has ported CVSup environment to Solaris x86. I would appreciate if someone has pointers for a quick port. Thanks, Ram From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 04:14:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04650 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [207.198.1.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04634 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA09071 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:01:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199704141101.HAA09071@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: Make world hanging? In-Reply-To: <19970414093642.IX24704@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Apr 14, 97 09:36:42 am" To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:01:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In which state did it hang? If it's `piperd', i bet it's the same > vfork() problem as other people are seeing. I've experienced it > myself for xrdb. John has made a stop-gap commit since to avoid the > problem, so maybe you should upgrade your kernel again before the make > world. It is probably the same problem since my make world hung in the same place, and it is easily reproduced with a "man cat". Yes, it's in piperd. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 05:34:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA08631 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 05:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA08569 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 05:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atena.eurocontrol.fr; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA20393; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:33:36 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (8.8.6.Beta0/caerdonn-1.1) id OAA13185; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:33:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970414143336.59431@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:33:36 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: "FreeBSD Current Users' list" Subject: problem with libc/sys/truncate.c Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sys/types.h declares truncate as (const char *, off_t) whereas truncate.c has only char *. Here is a fix. Index: truncate.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/sys/truncate.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -2 -r1.1.1.1 truncate.c --- truncate.c 1994/05/27 04:57:57 1.1.1.1 +++ truncate.c 1997/04/14 12:26:52 @@ -45,5 +45,5 @@ int truncate(path, length) - char *path; + const char *path; off_t length; { -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr FreeBSD caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr 3.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Apr 9 15:05:08 CEST 1997 roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/CAERDONN2 i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 06:16:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10821 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tatooine.vader.org (tatooine.vader.org [194.159.100.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10811 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by tatooine.vader.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03676; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:16:08 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Dabrowski Message-Id: <199704141316.OAA03676@tatooine.vader.org> Subject: Re: X still broken? In-Reply-To: <199704132337.TAA00472@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> from Garrett Wollman at "Apr 13, 97 07:37:49 pm" To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:16:08 +0100 (BST) Cc: current@freebsd.org Reply-To: chris@vader.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Today was the day that I would finally get to test out a lot of > changes to the networking code that I had planned. However, when I > rebooted my machine, I found that X is still utterly broken. I don't > think that my changes are to blame, since they are not actually > functional, and in any case the rest of the machine appears to work > Just Fine(tm). The symptom is very simple: any attempt to start the X > server, whether through xdm or startx, puts the system in an infinite > loop where the server starts, and then immediately shuts down and > restarts, all the while locking up the keyboard so that one can't log > in to kill it. > Try changing the permissions of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc and ~/.xinitrc to 555. Some other people on this list (including myself) were having the same problem and this solution fixed it. Don't ask me why it works though. :-) Chris -- Chris Dabrowski chris@vader.org From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 06:25:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11546 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11539; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00880; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:25:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:22:23 -0500 To: ctm-announce@freebsd.org From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: CTM Archive Available Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am pleased to finally announce that we have a home for the ctm archives. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/ now has the archives of the following distributions: src-2.1 src-2.2 src-cur ports-cur cvs-cur Please use this repository if you are missing a file. Richard Wackerbarth ctm@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 06:42:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13044 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.psinet.net.au (obiwan.psinet.net.au [203.19.28.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13039 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by obiwan.psinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00260 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:30:41 +0800 (WST) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:30:41 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Patch to kern_fork.c Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Might be late, but.. John's patch to vfork() seems to work. (I was noticing xdm not bringing up the login widget, with this patch it does). -- Adrian Chadd | UNIX, MS-DOS and Windows ... | (also known as the Good, the bad and the | ugly..) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 06:51:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13749 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA13697 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atena.eurocontrol.fr; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA16579; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:51:22 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (8.8.6.Beta0/caerdonn-1.1) id PAA20358; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:51:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970414155121.24678@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:51:21 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: "FreeBSD Current Users' list" Subject: Typo in handbook/submitters.sgml Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Index: submitters.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/doc/handbook/submitters.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.48 diff -u -2 -r1.48 submitters.sgml --- submitters.sgml 1997/04/13 14:36:18 1.48 +++ submitters.sgml 1997/04/14 13:50:19 @@ -518,5 +518,5 @@ donated a Kingston ethernet controller. - donated an NCR 53C875 SCSI controller card. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr FreeBSD caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr 3.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Apr 9 15:05:08 CEST 1997 roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/CAERDONN2 i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 06:59:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA14522 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA14516 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atena.eurocontrol.fr; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA18351; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:58:45 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (8.8.6.Beta0/caerdonn-1.1) id PAA21380; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:58:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970414155845.06132@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:58:45 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: "FreeBSD Current Users' list" Subject: ix.4 still in man.i386/Makefile Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Now that the ix driver has been merged, one should either remove the ix.4 from the Makefile or make it a link to ie.4. Here is a patch for the former. Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.61 diff -u -2 -r1.61 Makefile --- Makefile 1997/02/22 21:19:54 1.61 +++ Makefile 1997/04/14 13:56:28 @@ -2,5 +2,5 @@ MAN4= aha.4 ahb.4 ahc.4 aic.4 apm.4 ar.4 asc.4 bt.4 cx.4 cy.4 de.4 dgb.4 \ - ed.4 eg.4 el.4 ep.4 ex.4 gsc.4 fdc.4 fe.4 fxp.4 ie.4 io.4 ix.4 \ + ed.4 eg.4 el.4 ep.4 ex.4 gsc.4 fdc.4 fe.4 fxp.4 ie.4 io.4 \ joy.4 keyboard.4 labpc.4 le.4 lnc.4 lp.4 lpt.4 matcd.4 mcd.4 mem.4 \ meteor.4 mse.4 mtio.4 nca.4 ncr.4 npx.4 pcvt.4 perfmon.4 psm.4 \ @@ -31,5 +31,4 @@ MLINKS+= ie.4 ../ie.4 MLINKS+= io.4 ../io.4 -MLINKS+= ix.4 ../ix.4 MLINKS+= joy.4 ../joy.4 MLINKS+= keyboard.4 ../keyboard.4 -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr FreeBSD caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr 3.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Apr 9 15:05:08 CEST 1997 roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/CAERDONN2 i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 07:27:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA17156 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17150 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA29188 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:27:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA27861 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:44:57 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:44:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199704141444.QAA27861@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: make world stumbling blocks - ix.4 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Noticed that truncate const char *path thing myself here (Olivier), and after applying the same fix you were suggesting make world currently gets stuck in: gzip -c /home/BLUES/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/fxp.4 > fxp.4.gz gzip -c /home/BLUES/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/ie.4 > ie.4.gz gzip -c /home/BLUES/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/io.4 > io.4.gz make: don't know how to make ix.4. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. blues> Anyone else seeing this? -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 07:33:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA17765 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA17759 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atena.eurocontrol.fr; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA29380; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:32:39 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (8.8.6.Beta0/caerdonn-1.1) id QAA25347; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:32:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970414163238.59096@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:32:38 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: "FreeBSD Current Users' list" Subject: undelete(2) in unistd.h conflicts with mail/extern.h Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The declaration of undelete(2) conflicts with usr.bin/mail/extern.h declaration of undelete() (the function may be found in cmd2.c). I've renamed it to mundelete in mail and here is a patch: Index: cmd2.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/mail/cmd2.c,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -2 -r1.2 cmd2.c --- cmd2.c 1995/05/30 06:31:39 1.2 +++ cmd2.c 1997/04/14 14:26:48 @@ -346,5 +346,5 @@ */ int -undelete(msgvec) +mundelete(msgvec) int *msgvec; { Index: cmdtab.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/mail/cmdtab.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -2 -r1.1.1.1 cmdtab.c --- cmdtab.c 1994/05/27 12:32:06 1.1.1.1 +++ cmdtab.c 1997/04/14 14:27:11 @@ -59,5 +59,5 @@ "dp", deltype, W|MSGLIST, 0, MMNDEL, "dt", deltype, W|MSGLIST, 0, MMNDEL, - "undelete", undelete, P|MSGLIST, MDELETED,MMNDEL, + "undelete", mundelete, P|MSGLIST, MDELETED,MMNDEL, "unset", unset, M|RAWLIST, 1, 1000, "mail", sendmail, R|M|I|STRLIST, 0, 0, Index: extern.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/mail/extern.h,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -2 -r1.1.1.1 extern.h --- extern.h 1994/05/27 12:32:07 1.1.1.1 +++ extern.h 1997/04/14 14:27:20 @@ -240,5 +240,5 @@ int type __P((int *)); int type1 __P((int *, int, int)); -int undelete __P((int *)); +int mundelete __P((int *)); void unmark __P((int)); char **unpack __P((struct name *)); This is the first "make world" I try since 13/02/97. CVS tree CVSup-ed two hours ago. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr FreeBSD caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr 3.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Apr 9 15:05:08 CEST 1997 roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/CAERDONN2 i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 08:30:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA20926 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20914 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id BAA16626; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:26:27 +1000 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:26:27 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199704141526.BAA16626@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, roberto@eurocontrol.fr Subject: Re: undelete(2) in unistd.h conflicts with mail/extern.h Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >The declaration of undelete(2) conflicts with usr.bin/mail/extern.h >declaration of undelete() (the function may be found in cmd2.c). I've >renamed it to mundelete in mail and here is a patch: Oops. Perhaps it shouldn't be declared there. Lite2 neglected to declare it and still has undelete() in cmd2.c. The problem is not simply visibility in headers. undelete() is extern in both cmd2.c and libc so it's not clear how the right one is linked. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 08:44:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21767 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA21705 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atena.eurocontrol.fr; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA21136; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:43:52 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (8.8.6.Beta0/caerdonn-1.1) id RAA13644; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:43:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970414174352.17499@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:43:52 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: Bruce Evans Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: undelete(2) in unistd.h conflicts with mail/extern.h References: <199704141526.BAA16626@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 In-Reply-To: <199704141526.BAA16626@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Tue, Apr 15, 1997 at 01:26:27AM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Bruce Evans: > Oops. Perhaps it shouldn't be declared there. Lite2 neglected to > declare it and still has undelete() in cmd2.c. The problem is not simply > visibility in headers. undelete() is extern in both cmd2.c and libc so > it's not clear how the right one is linked. AFAIK, the right one. -lc is specified after all the object files so _undelete in cmd2.o should be picked up before the undelete.o one. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr FreeBSD caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr 3.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Apr 9 15:05:08 CEST 1997 roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/CAERDONN2 i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 08:48:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22157 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22148 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA04805; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:48:48 -0700 (PDT) To: Ollivier Robert cc: "FreeBSD Current Users' list" Subject: Re: Typo in handbook/submitters.sgml In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:51:21 +0200." <19970414155121.24678@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:48:48 -0700 Message-ID: <4802.861032928@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Already fixed, thanks. > Index: submitters.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/doc/handbook/submitters.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.48 > diff -u -2 -r1.48 submitters.sgml > --- submitters.sgml 1997/04/13 14:36:18 1.48 > +++ submitters.sgml 1997/04/14 13:50:19 > @@ -518,5 +518,5 @@ > donated a Kingston ethernet controller. > > - + name="Jack O'Neill"> donated an NCR 53C875 SCSI > controller card. > > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr > FreeBSD caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr 3.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Apr 9 15:05:08 CEST 1997 > roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/CAERDONN2 i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 09:00:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23187 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23165 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA04920; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:59:54 -0700 (PDT) To: Ollivier Robert cc: "FreeBSD Current Users' list" Subject: Re: undelete(2) in unistd.h conflicts with mail/extern.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:32:38 +0200." <19970414163238.59096@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:59:54 -0700 Message-ID: <4915.861033594@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The declaration of undelete(2) conflicts with usr.bin/mail/extern.h > declaration of undelete() (the function may be found in cmd2.c). I've > renamed it to mundelete in mail and here is a patch: [scratch scratch] I'm puzzled - don't you have commit privileges, Ollivier? Why are you routing all your changes through these lists? :-) Seriously, that's the whole point of being a committer - to cut down on the chain of delay on getting changes in. I think you've more than enough history with us to be trusted to commit such changes directly, so why not do so? On the rare occasion that someone disagrees with a change, they can take it up with you specifically. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 09:05:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23574 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@pluto100.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23562 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA25162; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:04:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704141604.KAA25162@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: Christoph Kukulies cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world stumbling blocks - ix.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:44:57 +0200." <199704141444.QAA27861@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:03:21 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Already fixed in both current and stable. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 09:40:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25914 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25900 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id LAA01488; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:40:01 -0500 (EST) From: John Dyson Message-Id: <199704141640.LAA01488@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Patch to kern_fork.c In-Reply-To: from Adrian Chadd at "Apr 14, 97 09:30:41 pm" To: adrian@obiwan.psinet.net.au (Adrian Chadd) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:40:01 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@freebsd.org Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Might be late, but.. > > John's patch to vfork() seems to work. > > (I was noticing xdm not bringing up the login widget, with this patch it > does). > Thanks -- now I have to figure out how to reproduce it. :-). I don't normally run XDM, so off I go to experiment. Tonight is the traditional night that almost everyone in the US does their taxes :-), so I'll be busy with that nasty, noxious chore tonight :-). John From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 10:01:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28367 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28355 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA03812 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:00:59 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id TAA04345 for freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:00:43 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id SAA04763; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:44:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970414184413.22082@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:44:13 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world stumbling blocks - ix.4 References: <199704141444.QAA27861@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 In-Reply-To: <199704141444.QAA27861@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>; from Christoph Kukulies on Mon, Apr 14, 1997 at 04:44:57PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3195 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Christoph Kukulies: > make: don't know how to make ix.4. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Anyone else seeing this? Already fixed. Next tumbling block is usr.bin/fmt (patch already in the list, look further in your mailbox :-) -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: There are no limits -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #41: Sun Mar 23 23:01:22 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 10:21:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00323 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00277 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA00281 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (karl@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA12390 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:58:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.5/8.8.2) id LAA21380; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:58:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970414115844.46576@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:58:44 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: current@freebsd.org Subject: NFS problems continue.... Lite2 merge has really fubared the world here Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, Well, I'd love to run somewhat-CURRENT. But I can't. Still. I know this is a whine and complaint, but folks, this is getting serious around here. We're well over a month into this now since I first reported this, and it hasn't gotten any significant attention at all. Also, the number of things that are "fixed in current" is great -- if you can *run* -current. We can't. The reason is that *ANY* attempt to execute a program off an NFS mounted disk in -current causes page-not-present and page-fault panics in the kernel. Perhaps not the first thing you try to run. But this is reproduceable within *five minutes* here in our environment. Is there any work being done in this area? If not, does anyone have a *concise* list of the area that got fubar'd during the merge so I have some chance of working up a fix for this? Terry Lambert has pointed me in the "right direction", but from a quick examination it looks like a *lot* of things in the FS interface have changed between the abstraction and actual FS layers -- which implies that my odds of getting this right anytime soon (since I didn't do the merge in the first place) is somewhere between slim and none. Help is appreciated. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, http://www.mcs.net/ Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| NOW Serving 56kbps DIGITAL on our analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 11:40:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05248 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05242 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05365; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704141840.LAA05365@austin.polstra.com> To: RAM@novell.com Subject: Re: Is there a Solaris x86 port of CVSup?? Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:40:35 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article , Ram Madduluri wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has ported CVSup environment to Solaris x86. I > would appreciate if someone has pointers for a quick port. Some time ago there was a guy who ported it to a number of platforms, and I believe that some version of Solaris (2.4, I think) was one of them. Unfortunately, the DEC SRC web pages do not list Solaris x86 as one of the supported platforms for Modula-3. So I am afraid you'd first have to port Modula-3. This might or might not be hard. If the Solaris x86 API isn't too different from Solaris-2.4, then you could start with the 2.4 Modula-3 port and work from there. The code generator uses gcc, so that shouldn't be a problem. On the other hand, Modula-3 is _huge_, and it uses an unconventional build system that can be daunting to say the least. Also, you'd have to have Modula-3 running on some supported platform (FreeBSD would be fine) in order to do the required cross-build to bootstrap it to Solaris x86. Assuming you got Modula-3 ported, I am pretty sure that the current beta version of CVSup would build pretty easily and work. It's available in source form from: ftp://freefall.freebsd.org/pub/CVSup/BETA/cvsup-14.1.4.tar.gz John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 11:43:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05484 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@pluto100.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05468; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA28411; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:43:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704141843.MAA28411@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: dyson@freebsd.org cc: adrian@obiwan.psinet.net.au (Adrian Chadd), current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patch to kern_fork.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:40:01 CDT." <199704141640.LAA01488@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:42:17 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Might be late, but.. >> >> John's patch to vfork() seems to work. >> >> (I was noticing xdm not bringing up the login widget, with this patch it >> does). >> >Thanks -- now I have to figure out how to reproduce it. :-). I don't >normally run XDM, so off I go to experiment. Tonight is the traditional night >that almost everyone in the US does their taxes :-), so I'll be busy with >that nasty, noxious chore tonight :-). > >John Try maning an uncached man page. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 15:34:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20021 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20013 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA19622; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:13:15 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199704142213.PAA19622@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ISODEVMAP in cd9660 ? To: phk@dk.tfs.com Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:13:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <421.860999989@critter> from "phk@dk.tfs.com" at Apr 14, 97 08:39:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Anybody know a good reason for not nuking the "ISODEVMAP" stuff in cd9660 ? Because doing so without making devfs mandatory means that you would no longer be able to have a bootable CDROM? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 17:05:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26070 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (mantar@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26060 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mantar@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA24240; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:04:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:04:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Manfred Antar X-Sender: mantar@netcom9 To: Garrett Wollman cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X still broken? In-Reply-To: <199704132337.TAA00472@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the same problem. I just rebooted with a week old kernel and everything works fine. I'm building a new kernel now from current sources and will try that. ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 17:08:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26258 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (mantar@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26248 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mantar@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA25321; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:08:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:08:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Manfred Antar X-Sender: mantar@netcom9 To: Warner Losh cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Make world hanging? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Same thing happened to me last night, I tried twice and gve up. ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 18:50:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03341 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp01-58.zyzzyva.com [208.214.58.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03309 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA11924; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:52:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704150152.UAA11924@sierra.zyzzyva.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Thomas David Rivers cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (*my* problems found...yours?) NFS problems - it doesn't appear to be ep0. In-reply-to: ponds!rivers's message of Sat, 12 Apr 1997 09:11:24 -0400. <199704121311.JAA19644@lakes.water.net> X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:52:24 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Since 2.2-GAMMA a new flag has been added to the sysctl. By setting vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=0, NFS works fine. For some reason, the NFS server is booting with vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=1. Can anyone explain the use of this parameter? #> sysctl vfs vfs.nfs.nfs_privport: 0 vfs.nfs.async: 0 vfs.nfs.defect: 0 vfs.nfs.diskless_valid: 0 vfs.nfs.diskless_rootpath: vfs.nfs.diskless_swappath: > Dan Nelson writes: > > In the last episode (Apr 11), Thomas David Rivers said: > > > > > > Well, regarding my NFS hang-ups to HP/UX 9.05 and Sunos 4.1.3 > > > systems (this is 2.2.1 as of April 8th). > > > > > > I replaced my 3c509 with a 3c900 and was able to demonstrate > > > the same lock up. > > > > > > It appears to be related to a readdir(), as only ls -l causes > > > the file system hang. A 'cat' of large files (quite large) > > > doesn't seem to have the same effect. > > > > > > I set the readdirsize down to 1024 with the -I argument on > > > the mount, but that didn't seem to affect it. > > > > I've seen this problem on 3com cards myself - both 3c509 (ep) and 3c905 > > (vx) cards. I get packet overruns, RX overruns, and fifo underruns > > when trying NFS accesses. With tcpdump on another machine, I can see > > that only the first two or three fragments of an 8K NFS packet ever get > > out. 3com's spec sheet for the 3c905XL 100BT card states it has only > > an 8K buffer, partitioned by default at 4K/4K transmit/receive! > > > ... > > I solved my particular problem by getting Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B > > cards, which have worked flawlessly. The 3com cards are now in DOS > > machines. > > > > -Dan Nelson > > dnelson@emsphone.com > > > > Yes, but, this exact hardware worked flawlessly in 2.1.5. So, > I'm betting something in 2.2.1 is tickling this problem... > > - Dave Rivers - From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 21:28:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA13313 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noc.msc.edu (noc.msc.edu [137.66.12.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13307 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uc.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA11117; Mon, 14 Apr 97 23:28:07 -0500 Received: from pobox.com (fergus-20.dialup.prtel.com [206.10.99.151]) by uc.msc.edu (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22304 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:28:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id XAA00270; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:26:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:26:54 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: alk@pobox.com Message-Id: <199704150426.XAA00270@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: current@freebsd.org Subject: ieintr panic at shutdown X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FYI: Every time I ctrl-alt-del shutdown, without fail, I get a panic at _ieintr+0x1db in my config -g DDB 3.0 current kernel. Thankfully this always happens after syncing the disks. Incidentally, for any question answerers out there, how does one get that panic message (with the stack segments &c nicely printed out) to save somewhere recoverable after rebooting? Finally, I observe that savecore errors out saying something about _dumprag (or something like that) not being defined. So I never get a core to poke at. Apr 14 23:13:22 compound /debug: ie0 at 0x210-0x21f irq 5 maddr 0xd0000 msize 32768 on isa Apr 14 23:13:22 compound /debug: ie0: address 00:aa:00:4b:59:c0 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 21:28:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA13329 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noc.msc.edu (noc.msc.edu [137.66.12.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13315 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uc.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA11121; Mon, 14 Apr 97 23:28:11 -0500 Received: from pobox.com (fergus-20.dialup.prtel.com [206.10.99.151]) by uc.msc.edu (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22307 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:28:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id XAA00208; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:22:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:22:10 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: alk@pobox.com Message-Id: <199704150422.XAA00208@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: current@freebsd.org Subject: more on the scsi cd not doing CDIOCPLAYMSF X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I mentioned earlier that my cdrom stopped playing in 3.0 current sometime during late March. I'm not at all familiar with this code, but I thought I'd start poking around in it. When I enable the show_scsi_xs call in scsi_base.c:scsi_scsi_cmd, it looks like this (along with a few of my own printfs): Apr 14 23:14:03 compound /debug: cd0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB Apr 14 23:14:03 compound /debug: PLAY_MSF: HAD_ERROR 22 queueing command Apr 14 23:14:03 compound /debug: PLAY_MSF switchlink 0xf0c57f90 link 0xf0c62d80 unit 0 Apr 14 23:14:03 compound /debug: xs(0xf0c89480): flg(0x20)sc_link(0xf0c62d80)retr(0x1)timo(0x7d0)cmd(0xf0c894d8)len(0xa)data(0x0)len(0x0)res(0x0)err(0x0)bp(0x0)cd0: command: 47,0,0,1c,0,f,ff,3b,4a,0-[0 bytes] Here's what a verbose boot looks like: Apr 14 23:13:19 compound /debug: ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 12 on pci0:18:0 Apr 14 23:13:19 compound /debug: mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00006000 size=0100. Apr 14 23:13:19 compound /debug: mapreg[14] type=0 addr=f0800000 size=0100. Apr 14 23:13:19 compound /debug: reg20: virtual=0xf4c9a000 physical=0xf0800000 size=0x100 Apr 14 23:13:19 compound /debug: ncr0: restart (scsi reset). Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: BIOS values: dmode: 8e, dcntl: a1, ctest3: 21 Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: dmode: ce/8e, dcntl: a1/a1, ctest3: 01/21 Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: ncr0 scanning for targets 0..6 and 8..15 (V2 pl24 96/12/14) Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: ncr0: waiting for scsi devices to settle Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: scbus0 at ncr0 bus 0 ... Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: cd0 at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: cd0: CD-ROM ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB address mismatch (0xf0c56000 != 0xf0c60b10) np.ccb = 0xf0c60b10 Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: cd0: phase change 6-2 6@000031c8 resid=5. Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: Apr 14 23:13:20 compound /debug: cd0: asynchronous. Apr 14 23:13:21 compound /debug: cd present [868488945 x -1060171280 byte records] I should learn to do kernel debugging properly, I suppose, but it wouldn't do me much good in this instance, since I don't have code to produce the error outside of X (xcdplayer). I suppose I can write one... but surely a knowledgable expert will repair the breakage before I even get started ;) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 22:02:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA15612 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [128.120.175.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15602 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dav1-9.calweb.com [207.211.82.9]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA14793; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:10:05 GMT Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id FAA09737; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 05:02:27 GMT Message-ID: <19970414220227.21670@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:02:27 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/misc/rpm/patches patch-ah References: <199704110639.XAA00101@freefall.freebsd.org> <199704150435.VAA11875@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704150435.VAA11875@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from Satoshi Asami on Mon, Apr 14, 1997 at 09:35:15PM -0700 X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * Only add `--quiet' flag to cpio on 3.0, where we have cpio-2.4.2. > Actually, I hope to bring cpio-2.4.2 into 2.2-stable, maybe soon. Has anyone had any problems under -CURRENT? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 22:22:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA16700 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lamb.sas.com (daemon@lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA16695 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA04059; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:22:10 -0400 Received: from iluvatar.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA07576; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:22:05 -0400 Received: by iluvatar.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA10868; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:22:05 -0400 From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199704150522.AA10868@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Subject: UserMode ppp problems (Bad FCS?) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:22:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have been arguing (and losing) with usermode ppp. It appears that the server I'm dialing into is sending out a configuration header that we don't recognize. Could someone with more knowlege than I tell me what a bad FCS actually is? Any pointers are greatly appreciated! Thanks, John From my log file: 04-14 20:08:55 [6844] ReadFromModem 04-14 20:08:55 [6844] 7e ff ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 34 7d ~}#@!}!}!} }4} 04-14 20:08:55 [6844] 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 2a 7d 20 7d 20 7d 25 7d 26 7d "}&} }*} } }%}&} 04-14 20:08:55 [6844] 29 7d 24 a2 6f 7d 27 7d 22 7d 28 7d 22 b3 b7 7e )}$"o}'}"}(}"37~ 04-14 20:08:55 [6844] HdlcInput: 04-14 20:08:55 [6844] ff ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 14 02 06 00 0a 00 00 05 04-14 20:08:55 [6844] 06 09 04 a2 6f 07 02 08 02 b3 b7 fcs = 3da2 (bad) Bad FCS 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] LCP: SendConfigReq 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] ACFCOMP 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] PROTOCOMP 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] ACCMAP [6] 00000000 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] MRU [4] 1500 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] MAGICNUM [6] d16ad3ac 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] AUTHPROTO [4] 49187 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] HdlcOutput 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] ff 03 c0 21 01 02 00 1c 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 d1 6a d3 ac 03 04 c0 23 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] WriteModem 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] 7e 7d df 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 22 7d 20 7d 3c 7d ~}_}#@!}!}"} }<} 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] 28 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d (}"}'}"}"}&} } } 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] 20 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 d1 6a } }!}$}%\}%}&Qj 04-14 20:08:58 [6844] d3 ac 7d 23 7d 24 c0 23 4c 7d 2b 7e S,}#}$@#L}+~ 04-14 20:08:59 [6844] ReadFromModem 04-14 20:08:59 [6844] 7e ff ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 22 7d 20 7d 34 7d ~}#@!}!}"} }4} 04-14 20:08:59 [6844] 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 2a 7d 20 7d 20 7d 25 7d 26 7d "}&} }*} } }%}&} 04-14 20:08:59 [6844] 29 7d 24 a2 6f 7d 27 7d 22 7d 28 7d 22 79 7d 2a )}$"o}'}"}(}"y}* 04-14 20:08:59 [6844] 7e ~ 04-14 20:08:59 [6844] HdlcInput: 04-14 20:08:59 [6844] ff ff 03 c0 21 01 02 00 14 02 06 00 0a 00 00 05 04-14 20:08:59 [6844] 06 09 04 a2 6f 07 02 08 02 79 0a fcs = 3da2 (bad) Bad FCS -- jwd@unx.sas.com (w) John W. De Boskey (919) 677-8000 x6915 jwd@baggins.ral.nc.us (h) (919) 781-0607 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 22:45:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA17964 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [128.120.175.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17958; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dav1-9.calweb.com [207.211.82.9]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA14912; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:52:34 GMT Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id FAA10158; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 05:44:54 GMT Message-ID: <19970414224454.26102@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:44:54 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: CVS-committers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/lsof Makefile ports/sysutils/lsof/files md5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Modified: sysutils/lsof Makefile > sysutils/lsof/files md5 > Log: > Upgrade to 4.03. Could those with a real 3.0-current box check this out for me? I'm guessing it still won't compile and I'd like to worth the the author to get this fixed. The 3.0-"current" box he tests on is from December. :-( -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 22:48:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA18136 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca4-04.ix.netcom.com [199.35.213.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18119; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) id WAA22513; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704150547.WAA22513@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: obrien@NUXI.com CC: CVS-committers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19970414224454.26102@dragon.nuxi.com> (obrien@NUXI.com) Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/lsof Makefile ports/sysutils/lsof/files md5 From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Could those with a real 3.0-current box check this out for me? I'm * guessing it still won't compile and I'd like to worth the the author to * get this fixed. The 3.0-"current" box he tests on is from December. :-( I just built it, the proof is in packages-current. (The box is -current from Friday but that's close enough. I think.) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 14 23:50:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA20730 for current-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA20722; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA28287; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:49:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199704150649.IAA28287@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: truncate.c breaks make world To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:49:42 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: wollman@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, 'make world' breaks at compiling /usr/src/lib/libc/sys/truncate.c . The prototype and definition of truncate() disagrees. Here is a reconciling patch: Index: truncate.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvsroot/src/lib/libc/sys/truncate.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -r1.1.1.1 truncate.c 47,48c47,48 < char *path; < off_t length; --- > const char *path; > off_t length; Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 00:35:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22600 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22587 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bsdcur@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) id KAA29787; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:35:33 +0300 (EET DST) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199704150735.KAA29787@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: X still broken? In-Reply-To: <199704141316.OAA03676@tatooine.vader.org> from Chris Dabrowski at "Apr 14, 97 02:16:08 pm" To: chris@vader.org Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:35:33 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Try changing the permissions of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc and > ~/.xinitrc to 555. Some other people on this list (including myself) were > having the same problem and this solution fixed it. Don't ask me why it > works though. :-) yes, worked for me too... if i change it, it breaks again. > Chris mickey From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 01:48:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA26432 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from innocence.interface-business.de (innocence.interface-business.de [193.101.57.202]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26420 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ida.interface-business.de (ida.interface-business.de [193.101.57.203]) by innocence.interface-business.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA23558 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:48:36 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by ida.interface-business.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id KAA01887 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:49:13 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: ida.interface-business.de: j set sender to j@uriah.heep.sax.de using -f Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00500; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:48:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970414204851.XX16922@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:48:51 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISODEVMAP in cd9660 ? References: <421.860999989@critter> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <421.860999989@critter>; from phk@dk.tfs.com on Apr 14, 1997 08:39:49 +0200 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As phk@dk.tfs.com wrote: > Anybody know a good reason for not nuking the "ISODEVMAP" stuff in cd9660 ? Does anybody realize what's the intention behind all this? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 01:49:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA26517 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from innocence.interface-business.de (innocence.interface-business.de [193.101.57.202]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26460 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ida.interface-business.de (ida.interface-business.de [193.101.57.203]) by innocence.interface-business.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA23567 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:48:39 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by ida.interface-business.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id KAA01891 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:49:16 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: ida.interface-business.de: j set sender to j@uriah.heep.sax.de using -f Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA00573; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:23:38 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970414212338.OC02963@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:23:38 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make world hanging? References: <199704140712.CAA00598@dyson.iquest.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199704140712.CAA00598@dyson.iquest.net>; from John S. Dyson on Apr 14, 1997 02:12:48 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As John S. Dyson wrote: > > Has anybody else seen this? > > > I'll try to reproduce the problem... Per your other email, I think that > there is a problem with popen (or equiv) working in an unexpected way. Btw., John, after upgrading to kern_fork.c rev 1.36, my hanging xrdb problem also went away. So i can confirm that this is related to the RFMEM flag. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 03:01:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA00431 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 03:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00416; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 03:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA21010; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:01:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA02234; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:19:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199704151019.MAA02234@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: truncate.c breaks make world In-Reply-To: <199704150649.IAA28287@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> from Wolfgang Helbig at "Apr 15, 97 08:49:42 am" To: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De (Wolfgang Helbig) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:19:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, wollman@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > 'make world' breaks at compiling /usr/src/lib/libc/sys/truncate.c . > The prototype and definition of truncate() disagrees. > Here is a reconciling patch: > > > Index: truncate.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /usr/cvsroot/src/lib/libc/sys/truncate.c,v > retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 > diff -r1.1.1.1 truncate.c > 47,48c47,48 > < char *path; > < off_t length; > --- > > const char *path; > > off_t length; > > > Wolfgang Wolfgang, This has already been posted by Ollivier Robert yesterday. You are 3 to 4 stumbling blocks behind :-) > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 04:03:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA02727 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 04:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02716; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 04:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00538; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:01:20 +0200 (CEST) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: current@FreeBSD.org From: phk@dk.tfs.com Subject: Re: ISODEVMAP in cd9660 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:48:51 +0200." <19970414204851.XX16922@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:01:20 +0200 Message-ID: <536.861102080@critter> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19970414204851.XX16922@uriah.heep.sax.de>, J Wunsch writes: >As phk@dk.tfs.com wrote: > >> Anybody know a good reason for not nuking the "ISODEVMAP" stuff in cd9660 ? > >Does anybody realize what's the intention behind all this? No idea really, and since DEVFS will make it pointless and it wasn't documented I've nuked it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 05:43:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA07346 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 05:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07341 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 05:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA24602 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 05:43:27 -0700 (PDT) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: GLOBAL comes to FreeBSD... Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 05:43:27 -0700 Message-ID: <24598.861108207@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've now just brought in version 1.81 of Shigio Yamaguchi's excellent "GLOBAL" package - a system for generating tags, both for use by editors and by web browsers (with an optional HTML flag set). Please see /usr/src/usr.bin/global/README for more information (or read the man pages for gtags & htags). After 3+ years, it looks like we may finally have working tags in FreeBSD. :-) At some point we'll also probably work this into the web pages somehow; we need to get the tools installed on freefall first, however. My public thanks also go to Shigio-san for contributing this package to FreeBSD! Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 06:37:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09660 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chess.inetspace.com ([206.50.163.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09653 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kgor@localhost) by chess.inetspace.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA01440; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:36:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:36:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704151336.IAA01440@chess.inetspace.com> From: "Kent S. Gordon" To: mantar@netcom.com CC: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from Manfred Antar on Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:04:54 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: X still broken? Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.105) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "mantar" == Manfred Antar writes: > I have the same problem. I just rebooted with a week old kernel > and everything works fine. I'm building a new kernel now from > current sources and will try that. I found that my xinit hangs and never executes any of the X applications in my .xinitrc. If I go to another login and set the display to hostname:0.0 instead of :0.0 and run xhost +. I can then start up other X applications. I have not had a chance to look investigate more, but the merge broke the local transport (Shared memory?). I have the system V shared memory/queues/semaphores in my kernel, but at the moment ipcs does not show any being used. Can other confirm that the hang only occurs if local transport (:0) instead of tcp/ip transport for X is used? > ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || > Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== Kent S. Gordon Senior Software Engineer INetSpace Co. voice: (972)851-3494 fax:(972)702-0384 e-mail:kgor@inetspace.com From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 06:40:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09963 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-36.netcom.ca [207.181.94.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09956 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA16715 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:40:07 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:40:07 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: new/unknown error message... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Can someone tell me what the following error message pertains to? > nroff -mandoc /usr/local/pgsql/man/manl/copy.l | less free(58808) bad block. (memtop = 72800 membot = 537ac) My first thought was a bad block on my hard drive, except that originally I saw it when running a different program/script, but if I run it now, I don't get the error anymore. kernel is compiled/installed as of Apr 14th source tree, and I never saw the error prior to this new kernel... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 07:13:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11452 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.psinet.net.au (obiwan.psinet.net.au [203.19.28.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11412; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by obiwan.psinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA03654; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:02:02 +0800 (WST) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:02:02 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: dyson@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patch to kern_fork.c In-Reply-To: <199704141640.LAA01488@dyson.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Thanks -- now I have to figure out how to reproduce it. :-). I don't > normally run XDM, so off I go to experiment. Tonight is the traditional night > that almost everyone in the US does their taxes :-), so I'll be busy with > that nasty, noxious chore tonight :-). Heheh lucky you all. :) If it at all helps, I won't touch my machine, I didn't save the old file before I patched it (so I'll dig around for what it WAS first), if you want to have a look, just yell. Have fun (I know you will :) Adrian From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 07:20:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11966 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (mantar@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA11953 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mantar@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id HAA21428; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:19:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Manfred Antar X-Sender: mantar@netcom9 To: "Kent S. Gordon" cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X still broken? In-Reply-To: <199704151336.IAA01440@chess.inetspace.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I built a new kernel last night and the problem went away. ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 07:41:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13136 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13131 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx12.netvision.net.il (mx12.NetVision.net.il [194.90.1.50]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id HAA02914 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 695 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1997 14:40:30 -0000 Received: from burka.netvision.net.il (gena@194.90.1.23) by mx12.netvision.net.il with SMTP; 15 Apr 1997 14:40:30 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1-beta [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:35:27 +0300 (IDT) X-Face: #v>4HN>#D_"[olq9y`HqTYkLVB89Xy|3')Vs9v58JQ*u-xEJVKY`xa.}E?z0RkLI/P&;BJmi0#u=W0).-Y'J4(dw{"54NhSG|YYZG@[)(`e! >jN#L!~qI5fE-JHS+< Organization: NetVision Ltd. From: Gennady Sorokopud To: current@freebsd.org Subject: stuck processes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id HAA13132 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Recently i discovered some very annoying problems with -current (as of today, but i think the problem started few weeks ago). If i debug a program inside gdb , and use 's' commands i sometimes get 'Can not access memory at XXXX', after that the debugged program hangs with D status in ps. Any 'ps' or 'w' commands issued after this hang too (with the same status). The strange thing is that root can run ps without any problem, but ps -a or ps -u will hang even for root. The only thing i can do to fix the situation is reboot :-( . Best regards. -------- Gennady B. Sorokopud - System programmer at NetVision Israel. E-Mail: Gennady Sorokopud PGP public key is available by fingering gena@netvision.net.il This message was sent at 15-Apr-97 17:35:27 by XFMail From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 07:45:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13324 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-51.netcom.ca [207.181.94.115]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13318 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA14667 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:45:22 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:45:22 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Should I be worried... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I'm not going to install this just yet, but this is based on source code CVSup'd within the last hour or so... --- kernel --- loading kernel rearranging symbols symorder: 1 symbol not found: _rawcb text data bss dec hex 565248 40960 50396 656604 a04dc Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 08:24:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA15572 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.sutd.ru (SUTD-19.2K.RUN.Net [194.85.165.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15543 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stage.sutd.RU (stage.sutd.ru [195.209.236.4]) by ns.sutd.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA06543 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:56:26 +0400 (MSD) Received: from stage by stage.sutd.RU (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA08465; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:55:57 +0400 Message-ID: <3352538D.5382@sutd.ru> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:55:57 +0400 From: "Denis G. Kalashnikov" Organization: SPbSUTD X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe kdg@sutd.ru From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 09:48:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20518 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (phk.cybercity.dk [195.8.133.247]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20481; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00278; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:46:30 +0200 (CEST) To: The Hermit Hacker cc: current@freebsd.org From: phk@dk.tfs.com Subject: Re: Should I be worried... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:45:22 -0300." Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:46:28 +0200 Message-ID: <276.861122788@critter> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Don't worry about it. It is 100% (ie. mostly :-) harmless. Poul-Henning In message , The Hermit Hacker writes: > >Hi... > > I'm not going to install this just yet, but this is based on source >code CVSup'd within the last hour or so... > >--- kernel --- >loading kernel >rearranging symbols >symorder: 1 symbol not found: >_rawcb >text data bss dec hex >565248 40960 50396 656604 a04dc > >Marc G. Fournier >Systems Administrator @ hub.org >primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 13:08:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07767 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA07746 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA23082; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:46:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199704151946.MAA23082@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ISODEVMAP in cd9660 ? To: phk@dk.tfs.com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:46:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <536.861102080@critter> from "phk@dk.tfs.com" at Apr 15, 97 01:01:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> Anybody know a good reason for not nuking the "ISODEVMAP" stuff in cd9660 ? > > > >Does anybody realize what's the intention behind all this? To allow bootable CDROM's. > No idea really, and since DEVFS will make it pointless and it wasn't > documented I've nuked it. DEVFS *will* make it pointless. However... non-documentation is not a good reason for nuking something; there's a *lot* of kernel code that falls into that basket, inclusing almost all of the VM and generic (non-FS) kernel code. I except some of the FS code because the VFS frameworkis intended to be documented by the Heidemann thesis (even if it's not a good fit because of the way it was integrated). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 14:21:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11916 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (phk.cybercity.dk [195.8.133.247]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11896; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00214; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:19:27 +0200 (CEST) To: Terry Lambert cc: phk@dk.tfs.com, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, current@FreeBSD.org From: phk@dk.tfs.com Subject: Re: ISODEVMAP in cd9660 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:46:37 PDT." <199704151946.MAA23082@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:19:27 +0200 Message-ID: <212.861139167@critter> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199704151946.MAA23082@phaeton.artisoft.com>, Terry Lambert writes: >> >> Anybody know a good reason for not nuking the "ISODEVMAP" stuff in cd966 >0 ? >> > >> >Does anybody realize what's the intention behind all this? > >To allow bootable CDROM's. > >> No idea really, and since DEVFS will make it pointless and it wasn't >> documented I've nuked it. > >DEVFS *will* make it pointless. > >However... non-documentation is not a good reason for nuking something; >there's a *lot* of kernel code that falls into that basket, inclusing >almost all of the VM and generic (non-FS) kernel code. I except some >of the FS code because the VFS frameworkis intended to be documented >by the Heidemann thesis (even if it's not a good fit because of the >way it was integrated). Get a grip Terry, those bits are not #ifdef SOMETHINGCRYPTIC... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 14:53:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14044 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14035 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA00493 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:53:25 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA21660; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:52:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970415235203.FV35411@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:52:03 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patch to kern_fork.c References: <199704141640.LAA01488@dyson.iquest.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199704141640.LAA01488@dyson.iquest.net>; from John Dyson on Apr 14, 1997 11:40:01 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As John Dyson wrote: > Thanks -- now I have to figure out how to reproduce it. :-). I don't > normally run XDM, so off I go to experiment. If you've got X available at all, all i needed to do was running xrdb (so the cpp got called). This happened from xdm itself, as well as (after killing xdm's xrdb run off) from my ~/.xsession. I think just writing a test case doing 1000 popen()'s gets you a good chance of triggering the problem. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 15:24:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15845 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA15828 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA25865; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:02:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199704152202.PAA25865@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ISODEVMAP in cd9660 ? To: phk@dk.tfs.com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:02:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <212.861139167@critter> from "phk@dk.tfs.com" at Apr 15, 97 11:19:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Get a grip Terry, those bits are not #ifdef SOMETHINGCRYPTIC... ISODEVMAP isn't that cryptic, IMO. Like I said, devfs will obviate the need for the thing for bootable CDROM's anyway, so it, in particular, should go *if* devfs becomes standard, in any case. But the "undocumented" justification for diking out code is not universally applicable: it was a hedge to use that as the justification. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 15:53:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17279 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17271 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA01720; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:53:23 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22090; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:39:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970416003927.KQ11850@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:39:27 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jwd@unx.sas.com (John W. DeBoskey) Subject: Re: UserMode ppp problems (Bad FCS?) References: <199704150522.AA10868@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199704150522.AA10868@iluvatar.unx.sas.com>; from John W. DeBoskey on Apr 15, 1997 01:22:04 -0400 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As John W. DeBoskey wrote: > I have been arguing (and losing) with usermode ppp. It appears that > the server I'm dialing into is sending out a configuration header > that we don't recognize. Nope, unrecognized config options aren't fatal unless one side insists of this option being used (and demands a shutdown if the negotiation fails). In your case, i don't see any reply packet at all, due to the FCS errors. > Could someone with more knowlege than I tell me > what a bad FCS actually is? Any pointers are greatly appreciated! An invalid frame check sequence (aka. CRC). You line looks broken. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 20:09:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01817 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-27.netcom.ca [207.181.94.91]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01812 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA19031 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:08:58 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:08:58 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: make world error in rtld: -assert? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I just happened to look at my 'make world' screen when it was going in to do a 'make depend' of rtld, and noticed the following error(s): ===> rtld rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -DRTLD /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386/mdprologue.S mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -DRTLD rtld.c malloc.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../shlib.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386/md.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/ rtld/../support.c sbrk.c cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld; make _EXTRADEPEND echo ld.so: `cc -Wl,-f -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -Bshareable -Bsymbolic -assert nosymbolic -lc_pic -lgcc_pic` >> .depend cc: nosymbolic: No such file or directory cc: file path prefix `symbolic' never used cc: file path prefix `shareable' never used ======[ portion of 'man ld' ]====== -assert keyword This option has currently no effect. It is here for compatibility with SunOS ld. All conditions which would cause a Sun assertion to fail will currently always cause error or warning messages from ld. ==================================== Looking at the man page for ld, it looks like the -assert isn't there for any reason, but I'm assuming the 'nosymbolic' is meant to be the 'keyword' for the -assert? Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 21:01:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04766 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04734 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id XAA03609 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:01:18 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199704160401.XAA03609@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: You will need to recompile your libc and apps!!! To: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:01:18 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is a serious bug in popen that has gone undetected until now. I have just committed a fix that makes the shared address space vfork problem go away (which was due to the popen boo-boo.) I will not be committing the fix to vfork until people have a chance to recompile their libc and re-link their apps with the corrected library. If you try to use the new (semantically correct) vfork with the broken library, you will experience some unexpected hangs in apps that use popen once in a while. The hangs are algorithmically reproduceable. It is unlikely that you will have to do anything to applications that are dynamically linked (other than install the new shared libc.) Statically linked apps are problematical. Vfork will be fixed soon, so at that time (perhaps a few days), you'll likely start noticing problems with things like the "man" and "sgmlfmt" commands (like you might have been seeing before I backed out the semantic correction for vfork.) If this grossly inconviences anyone, we can probably support a temporary kernel option for a few weeks until you have a chance to upgrade. Any problems with fixing vfork on Friday? Or will we need to support the temporary measure for backwards compatibility with the broken library routine? John From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 22:08:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA10211 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10180 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dawes@localhost) by rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) id PAA18458; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:07:20 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19970416150720.17257@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:07:20 +1000 From: David Dawes To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: moused enhancement (was: Re: make world) References: <19970409032758.35315@usn.blaze.net.au> <199704091659.MAA19396@whizzo.transsys.com> <199704100236.LAA07337@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <199704100333.XAA21958@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704100333.XAA21958@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Wed, Apr 09, 1997 at 11:33:57PM -0400 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Apr 09, 1997 at 11:33:57PM -0400, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > >> I looked at your patch (PR bin/3028) and understand that it adds ALPS >> GlidePoint support. XFree86 also has GlidePoint support (since >> 3.1.2F?). As far as I can understand, your support code and XFree86's >> are not functionally equivalent. > >Yes, this seems to be the case. I had already made similar changes to >this in the X server and moused seems to be the better approach - it >didn't require that I have to figure out how to build X. > >> Yours is for GlidePoint on the PS/2 mouse port and XFree86's code is >> for GlidePoint attached to a serial port. Your code makes `moused' >> pretend the left mouse button is pressed when the user `taps' >> GlidePoint's surface, whereas XFree86 regards the `tap' action as the >> fourth button press. > >I was hopeful when I heard about the glidepoint support in XFree86, >but frankly, having the tap gesture appear as a fourth mouse button >didn't solve a problem - it simply created another one. Frankly, >X already has way too many degrees of freedom and configurability as >a substitute for user interface design, and this was another chrome >plated knob. XFree86 isn't wedded to the idea of having the tap gesture work in this way -- that's just how it was done by the person who contributed the code to us. I'm not familiar with the glidepoint devices. What is the 'tap' usually used for (say, on an OS like Win95)? It would be good if we can be consistent in the way we deal with this (at least for the default behaviour), and we'd be happy to change the way XFree86 treats it (probably providing an XF86Config option to enable the old behaviour). We (XFree86) recently received some code to deal with a Microsoft Intellimouse. I haven't seen one of these, but it apparently has a wheel as well as buttons. In the code we received, wheel movements in on direction are mapped to button 4 and movements in the other direction are mapped to button 5 (the submitter apparently uses an emacs config which maps these buttons so that moving the wheel can be using for things like scrolling). Does anyone have any suggestions on how we should deal with a device like this? David From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 22:49:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11819 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11813 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peeper.my.domain ([208.128.8.102]) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA24932 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:46:56 -0700 Received: (from tom@localhost) by peeper.my.domain (8.8.5/8.7.3) id AAA25806; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <19970416004554.46057@peeper.my.domain> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:45:54 -0500 From: Tom Jackson To: FreeBSD Current Subject: Making floppy images Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e Reply-To: toj@gorilla.net Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Going to the /usr/src/release directory and issuing `make floppies' starts the process but complains that it can't find the object files, in my case, in /usr/obj. and dies. Tried to define OBJDIR but could not get this to work. Does anybody have the solution so thay you can make a boot and fixit floppy for current? Another point for current. Could you confirm that the /usr/src/etc directory is handled manually, files are copied into /etc /dev /root and such. I hope so because that's what iI have been doing. tia -- Tom Jackson I'm ProChoice->FreeBSD toj@gorilla.net http://www.freebsd.org tjackson@tulsix.utulsa.edu "Out in the Ozone Again" From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 15 23:18:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA13919 for current-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13901 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00525; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704160617.XAA00525@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: David Dawes cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Kazutaka YOKOTA , freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: moused enhancement (was: Re: make world) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:07:20 +1000." <19970416150720.17257@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:17:25 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ah, just one of the guys I was thinking about 8) On my PPRO 200mhz with the Natoma chipset, i enabled "uc" memory mode for my Dimond Stealth S3 968 and I noticed that the X server tends to lock up solid sometimes when the cursor changes. The following obscure instructions enables "uncached mode" across the S3's linear frame buffer which is 0xf0000000 and is 4mb big. wrmsr(0x204, 0xf0000001 ); wrmsr(0x205, 0xf8000000 | 0x800); In essence this is what fastvid does and the codes needs to be in a driver -- the iopl trick at user level will not work. Most of you will probably not run into this problem with a PPRO because you don't have fast access to the S3 card's frame buffer. For sure it speeds memory access to the card like about 4 times at least thats what I measure in DOS. With mpeg players I get about a third better thruput. At any rate, it looks like the cursor for the S3 stuff needs a little bit of work. My current X server version is 3.2a. It feels weird reporting a bug on something that I work a long time ago 8) Tnks! Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 01:20:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA29310 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29288 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA04518 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA03190; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:07:19 +1000 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:07:19 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199704160807.SAA03190@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: You will need to recompile your libc and apps!!! Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >There is a serious bug in popen that has gone undetected until now. I The bug came from Lite2, so it has not gone undetected for long :-). >have just committed a fix that makes the shared address space vfork >problem go away (which was due to the popen boo-boo.) I will not The fix is far too complicated. It is sufficient to remove one (unused except for its corruption of of the parent) assignment to pdes[1]. Function calls do not use call by reference in C. I think vfork() is still broken as designed. It makes unwarranted assumptions about the C implementation. Look at what happens if a (very reasonable) implementation preserves caller-saved registers in a natural way: main() { asm(" xorl %esi,%esi # 0 pushl %esi # save %esi call _vfork popl %esi # attempt to restore %esi testl %eax,%eax jge 1f call _abort # fork failed 1: jne 2f incl %eax # child, set %eax = 1 pushl %eax # corrupt stack as part of exiting call __exit # exit code doesn't matter 2: pushl %esi # parent call __exit # exit code 1 iff %esi was corrupted "); } When the parent gains control, its `popl %esi' restores garbage instead of the saved %esi. Worse things may happen for unreasonable implementations. There may be no stack... I wrote the following about system() before I understood the full brokenness of vfork(). Calling sigaction(), etc., should be no worse than calling execve(). Both depend on the C implementation not changing the stack level significantly before making the call making the call. Just returning to the parent depends on the vfork() implementation not doing too much with the stack (another layer of function calls would corrupt return addresses) :-(. popen.c happens to be the only place in libc that uses vfork. I think that system() should also use it. The child in system() does only sigaction() and sigprocmask() calls. This is a good example of where it is critical to know the difference between system calls and library functions - it is hard to tell whether a library function has any side effects. OTOH, all the functions that are safe to call in signal handlers are probably safe to call in vfork()ed children, since any side effects would make them unsafe to call in signal handlers. Unfortunately, _no_ syscalls are safe to call from signal handlers in FreeBSD, since all syscalls may have the side effect of clobbering errno. Fortunately, clobbering errno probably is not a problem for vfork() - after a successful vfork(), the parent has no reason to check errno, and usually has reasons to distrust it (I forget if successful syscalls can clobber errno - what happens for { errno = 0; susccessful_syscall(); assert(errno == 0); } ?). Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 01:58:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA04989 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail12.digital.com (mail12.digital.com [192.208.46.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04983 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:58:19 -0700 (PDT) From: garyj@frt.dec.com Received: from cssmuc.frt.dec.com by mail12.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id EAA04377; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:50:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by cssmuc.frt.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0232PM) id AA19333; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:50:30 +0200 Message-Id: <9704160850.AA19333@cssmuc.frt.dec.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message from "John S. Dyson" of Tue, 15 Apr 97 23:01:18 CDT. Reply-To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Subject: Re: You will need to recompile your libc and apps!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 10:50:30 +0200 X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk toor@dyson.iquest.net writes: > If this grossly inconviences anyone, we can probably support a temporary > kernel option for a few weeks until you have a chance to upgrade. Any > problems with fixing vfork on Friday? Or will we need to support the > temporary measure for backwards compatibility with the broken library > routine? > just do it, but also send a mail to the current list for those who aren't getting the commit mails. --- Gary Jennejohn (work) gjennejohn@frt.dec.com (home) Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de (play) gj@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 02:00:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA05349 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [207.198.1.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05309 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13229 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:47:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199704160847.EAA13229@hda.hda.com> Subject: Extra round robin context switching? To: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:47:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I added the fixed priority non-round robin scheduling I noticed I get extra context switching between same-priority processes after an interrupt/wakeup outside of the explicit "roundrobin" entry. This happens where wakeup calls "need_resched". I added logic to compare priorities before need_resched in my scratchpad version of kern_synch in ~ftp/dufault/posix4.tgz. Is this causing extra context switches on heavily loaded systems? -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 04:41:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA21391 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21371 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id VAA09805; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:34:40 +1000 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:34:40 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199704161134.VAA09805@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org, scrappy@hub.org Subject: Re: make world error in rtld: -assert? Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just happened to look at my 'make world' screen when it >was going in to do a 'make depend' of rtld, and noticed the following >error(s): > > >===> rtld >rm -f .depend >mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -DRTLD /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386/mdprologue.S >mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -DRTLD rtld.c malloc.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../shlib.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386/md.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/ >rtld/../support.c sbrk.c >cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld; make _EXTRADEPEND >echo ld.so: `cc -Wl,-f -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -Bshareable -Bsymbolic -assert nosymbolic -lc_pic -lgcc_pic` >> .depend >cc: nosymbolic: No such file or directory >cc: file path prefix `symbolic' never used >cc: file path prefix `shareable' never used Fixed (except for the problem that a failed `make depend' leaves a wrong .depend file and isn't run again). >======[ portion of 'man ld' ]====== > > -assert keyword > This option has currently no effect. It is here for compatibility > with SunOS ld. All conditions which would cause a Sun assertion > to fail will currently always cause error or warning messages > from ld. > >==================================== > > Looking at the man page for ld, it looks like the -assert isn't >there for any reason, but I'm assuming the 'nosymbolic' is meant to be >the 'keyword' for the -assert? The error message is from cc, so the man page for ld doesn't apply. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 06:19:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26124 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 06:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26119 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 06:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id IAA04459; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:12:30 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199704161312.IAA04459@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: You will need to recompile your libc and apps!!! In-Reply-To: <199704160807.SAA03190@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Apr 16, 97 06:07:19 pm" To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:12:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@freebsd.org, toor@dyson.iquest.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > popen.c happens to be the only place in libc that uses vfork. I think > that system() should also use it. The child in system() does only > sigaction() and sigprocmask() calls. This is a good example of where > it is critical to know the difference between system calls and library > functions - it is hard to tell whether a library function has any side > effects. OTOH, all the functions that are safe to call in signal handlers > are probably safe to call in vfork()ed children, since any side effects > would make them unsafe to call in signal handlers. Unfortunately, _no_ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > syscalls are safe to call from signal handlers in FreeBSD, since all ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > syscalls may have the side effect of clobbering errno. Fortunately, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > clobbering errno probably is not a problem for vfork() - after a > successful vfork(), the parent has no reason to check errno, and usually > has reasons to distrust it (I forget if successful syscalls can clobber > errno - what happens for > > { errno = 0; susccessful_syscall(); assert(errno == 0); } ?). > Of course, that will be fixed before threads support is complete. John From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 07:06:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA28447 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.private.com (ts06-ip22.tp.silkera.net [203.70.2.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28405 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:06:47 -0700 (PDT) From: zerodist@tp.silkera.net Received: from tiger ([192.168.1.11]) by main.private.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA07799 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:08:33 GMT Message-ID: <2F1FC396.6F18@tp.silkera.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 22:07:18 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: add Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscirbe From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 07:09:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA28734 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-46.netcom.ca [207.181.94.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28722 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost.hub.org [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA00342 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:09:25 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:09:25 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: modload /lkm/linux_mod.o Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... After finishing a new make world last night, 'modload /lkm/linux_mod.o' no longer works, with the following error: # modload /lkm/linux_mod.o /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment /lkm/linux_mod.o: More undefined symbol _copyin refs follow modload: /usr/bin/ld: return code 1 # ls -lt !$ ls -lt /lkm/linux_mod.o -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 42220 Apr 16 04:58 /lkm/linux_mod.o I just did a CVSup to confirm that there was nothing new that *seemed* to affect the linux emulation, and I don't recall anyone mentioning a problem with it recently in current :( Anyone have any ideas? Wish to play with the StarOffice port that is generating sooooo much traffic :) Thanks... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 07:30:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29807 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29728 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bsdcur@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) id RAA15306; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:28:12 +0300 (EET DST) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199704161428.RAA15306@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: You will need to recompile your libc and apps!!! In-Reply-To: <199704160401.XAA03609@dyson.iquest.net> from "John S. Dyson" at "Apr 15, 97 11:01:18 pm" To: toor@dyson.iquest.net (John S. Dyson) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:28:12 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > be committing the fix to vfork until people have a chance to recompile > their libc and re-link their apps with the corrected library. > > If you try to use the new (semantically correct) vfork with the broken library, > you will experience some unexpected hangs in apps that use popen once in a is this something that gets fixed with a make world? or do i need to twiddle something before that? or after? or during? =) mickey From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 07:41:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA00568 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00559 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id JAA04688; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:41:07 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199704161441.JAA04688@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: You will need to recompile your libc and apps!!! In-Reply-To: <199704161428.RAA15306@shadows.aeon.net> from mika ruohotie at "Apr 16, 97 05:28:12 pm" To: bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net (mika ruohotie) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:41:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > be committing the fix to vfork until people have a chance to recompile > > their libc and re-link their apps with the corrected library. > > > > If you try to use the new (semantically correct) vfork with the broken library, > > you will experience some unexpected hangs in apps that use popen once in a > > is this something that gets fixed with a make world? or do i need to twiddle > something before that? or after? or during? =) > It will get fixed during a make world, but the reason for the warning is for those that don't normally think of serious dependencies between the kernel and libc. Usually, it is safe, but the popen broke something in a true vfork. Vfork is still problematical in the general case, but does work now in it's normally intended uses, with the compile environment that we use. John From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 08:08:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01955 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (unique.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01946 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from davidn@localhost) by unique.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA02059; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 01:07:56 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19970417010755.55543@usn.blaze.net.au> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 01:07:55 +1000 From: David Nugent To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modload /lkm/linux_mod.o References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Wed Apr 16 11:09:25 EST 1997 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed Apr 16 11:09:25 EST 1997, The Hermit Hacker writes: > Anyone have any ideas? Wish to play with the StarOffice port that > is generating sooooo much traffic :) Yes, it isn't too bad. :) But I haven't seen your problem, sorry. Make world here as of yesterday built without a hitch. No, I lie. There was a problem with eBones, but I fixed that when it stumbled. Regards, David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia Voice +61-3-9791-9547 Data/BBS +61-3-9792-3507 3:632/348@fidonet davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 09:09:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05079 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05072 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23322 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA06797 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:09:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:08:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: scheduler Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For an OS class I'm in now (for which I'm writing as OS, actually) I need to get a look at the FreeBSD scheduler code .... does anyone know where that is? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 09:09:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05100 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05080 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA14585 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:09:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA09458 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:28:18 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:28:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199704161628.SAA09458@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: _rawcb - symorder Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I saw a message on this issue (kernel build in -current) pass by but missed the answer. What was the cure again? -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 09:51:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07330 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-46.netcom.ca [207.181.94.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07325 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost.hub.org [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA01202; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:51:23 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:51:23 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: David Nugent cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modload /lkm/linux_mod.o In-Reply-To: <19970417010755.55543@usn.blaze.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, David Nugent wrote: > On Wed Apr 16 11:09:25 EST 1997, The Hermit Hacker writes: > > Anyone have any ideas? Wish to play with the StarOffice port that > > is generating sooooo much traffic :) > > Yes, it isn't too bad. :) > > But I haven't seen your problem, sorry. Make world here as of > yesterday built without a hitch. No, I lie. There was a problem > with eBones, but I fixed that when it stumbled. make world seemed to build without a hitch here too...only problem was that one I reported about the -assert in rtld *shrug* Very strange, since it doesn't take too long, I think I'll just go do a make world again and see if it goes away :( Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 10:13:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08738 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-46.netcom.ca [207.181.94.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08727 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost.hub.org [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA01368; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:13:14 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:13:14 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Christoph Kukulies cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: _rawcb - symorder In-Reply-To: <199704161628.SAA09458@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > I saw a message on this issue (kernel build in -current) pass by > but missed the answer. What was the cure again? there was no cure given, it was a 'just ignore' message. I'm running with that kernel, and all is well... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 10:30:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11906 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11888 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pauling.salk.edu (pauling [198.202.70.108]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27256; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:29:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Bartol To: The Hermit Hacker cc: David Nugent , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modload /lkm/linux_mod.o In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I too did a make world yesterday (4/15) and remade the kernel afterward as well. I too saw an apparently non-fatal error in make world associated with -assert nosymbolic in rtld. However, I'm now running that version of -current and its kernel without problems. We just recently installed Matlab-5.0 for Linux and it runs flawlessly under the -current I made yesterday. So I haven't seen any problems in linux_mod -- yet :-) Tom On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, David Nugent wrote: > > > On Wed Apr 16 11:09:25 EST 1997, The Hermit Hacker writes: > > > Anyone have any ideas? Wish to play with the StarOffice port that > > > is generating sooooo much traffic :) > > > > Yes, it isn't too bad. :) > > > > But I haven't seen your problem, sorry. Make world here as of > > yesterday built without a hitch. No, I lie. There was a problem > > with eBones, but I fixed that when it stumbled. > > make world seemed to build without a hitch here too...only problem > was that one I reported about the -assert in rtld *shrug* > > Very strange, since it doesn't take too long, I think I'll just go > do a make world again and see if it goes away :( > > Marc G. Fournier > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 10:59:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20010 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19973 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04295; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704161759.NAA04295@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: David Dawes cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: moused enhancement (was: Re: make world) References: <19970409032758.35315@usn.blaze.net.au> <199704091659.MAA19396@whizzo.transsys.com> <199704100236.LAA07337@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <199704100333.XAA21958@whizzo.transsys.com> <19970416150720.17257@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:07:20 +1000." <19970416150720.17257@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:59:05 -0400 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dawes@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au said: > XFree86 isn't wedded to the idea of having the tap gesture work in > this way -- that's just how it was done by the person who contributed > the code to us. I'm not familiar with the glidepoint devices. What > is the 'tap' usually used for (say, on an OS like Win95)? It would be > good if we can be consistent in the way we deal with this (at least > for the default behaviour), and we'd be happy to change the way > XFree86 treats it (probably providing an XF86Config option to enable > the old behaviour). The Windows95 driver, for instance, treats the "tap" gesture as a left mouse button click or drag. This is a pretty natural thing to want to do with the pointing device, since you often use the same fingers to drag across the surface of the pointing device as you would to operate on of the mouse buttons. I'm afraid I don't have any suggestions on the Microsoft Intellimouse, having never seen or used one myself. louie From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 11:26:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27517 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (ravenock.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27497 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA01070; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:26:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199704161826.UAA01070@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: modload /lkm/linux_mod.o In-Reply-To: from The Hermit Hacker at "Apr 16, 97 11:09:25 am" To: scrappy@hub.org (The Hermit Hacker) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:26:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to The Hermit Hacker who wrote: > > Hi... > > After finishing a new make world last night, 'modload /lkm/linux_mod.o' > no longer works, with the following error: > > # modload /lkm/linux_mod.o > /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment > > Anyone have any ideas? Wish to play with the StarOffice port that > is generating sooooo much traffic :) I did a make world just to check on a cvs-cur-3219 base tree, it works without trouble... Have you remade your kernel so it matches the lkm ?? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 11:31:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28622 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (phk.cybercity.dk [195.8.133.247]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28564; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00255; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:30:18 +0200 (CEST) To: Christoph Kukulies cc: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org From: phk@dk.tfs.com Subject: Re: _rawcb - symorder In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:28:18 +0200." <199704161628.SAA09458@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:30:18 +0200 Message-ID: <253.861215418@critter> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199704161628.SAA09458@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>, Christoph Ku kulies writes: > >I saw a message on this issue (kernel build in -current) pass by >but missed the answer. What was the cure again? Ache fixed it before I could get to it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 11:52:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03823 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-46.netcom.ca [207.181.94.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03787 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost.hub.org [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA02419; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:52:19 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:52:19 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Søren Schmidt cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modload /lkm/linux_mod.o In-Reply-To: <199704161826.UAA01070@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Søren Schmidt wrote: > In reply to The Hermit Hacker who wrote: > > > > Hi... > > > > After finishing a new make world last night, 'modload /lkm/linux_mod.o' > > no longer works, with the following error: > > > > # modload /lkm/linux_mod.o > > /lkm/linux_mod.o: Undefined symbol `_copyin' referenced from text segment > > > > Anyone have any ideas? Wish to play with the StarOffice port that > > is generating sooooo much traffic :) > > I did a make world just to check on a cvs-cur-3219 base tree, it > works without trouble... > > Have you remade your kernel so it matches the lkm ?? Doing a rebuild right now... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 13:05:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22265 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22259; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pauling.salk.edu (pauling [198.202.70.108]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01213; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Bartol To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Trouble with make release Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've searched through the FreeBSD mail archives and FAQ but found no reference to my question: How do you do a "make release" in /usr/src/release. I'm running -current and would like make my own snapshot with make release. I've looked at the Makefile in /usr/src/release and set the BUILDNAME and CHROOTDIR variables there. I then do a make release which proceeds just fine until it hits the cvs command at which point it gorks as follows: ===> lkm/wcd install -c -o bin -g bin -m 555 wcd_mod.o /usr/local/src/freebsd-3.0-CNL/lkm cd /usr/local/src/freebsd-3.0-CNL/usr && rm -rf src && cvs -d co -P src cvs: invalid option -- P Apparently the CVSROOT environment variable is never set so there is just a blank after "cvs -d" instead of an absolute path name. Does anyone have any clues as to how I to fix this? Thanks much, Tom From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 13:51:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02947 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA02893 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA07853; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:51:07 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04208; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:38:05 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970416223804.WH61024@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:38:04 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.org Cc: chuckr@mat.net (Chuck Robey) Subject: Re: scheduler References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Apr 16, 1997 12:08:36 -0400 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Chuck Robey wrote: > For an OS class I'm in now (for which I'm writing as OS, actually) I need > to get a look at the FreeBSD scheduler code .... does anyone know where > that is? At different locations. :) The machine-dependant part is under /sys/i386/i386, mainly in swtch.s. You'll for example find the idle loop there, and see how the rtprio/ normal/idleprio queues are handled. You'll also learn from there why FreeBSD is ``cooler'' than messy DOS (yielding for example twice the battery operating time on our Toshiba notebook compared to Win95) -- it simply issues a `hlt' instruction to the CPU if nothing else is to be done. The machine-independant part is in /sys/kern/kern_synch.c. I have no idea about Peter D.'s recent Posix.4 enhancements, but they might probably make an interesting reading in this context as well. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 14:10:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08285 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08202; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA08090; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:10:31 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04493; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:09:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970416230912.AQ56501@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:09:12 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: bartol@salk.edu (Tom Bartol) Subject: Re: Trouble with make release References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Tom Bartol on Apr 16, 1997 13:05:03 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Tom Bartol wrote: > Apparently the CVSROOT environment variable is never set so there is just > a blank after "cvs -d" instead of an absolute path name. Does anyone have > any clues as to how I to fix this? Yes, by mirroring a CVS tree, and setting this variable. :) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 14:22:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11118 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11109 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA22198; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:22:14 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199704162122.XAA22198@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Trouble with make release In-Reply-To: from Tom Bartol at "Apr 16, 97 01:05:03 pm" To: bartol@salk.edu (Tom Bartol) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:22:14 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How do you do a "make release" in /usr/src/release. > > I'm running -current and would like make my own snapshot with make > release. I've looked at the Makefile in /usr/src/release and set the > BUILDNAME and CHROOTDIR variables there. I then do a make release which > proceeds just fine until it hits the cvs command at which point it gorks > as follows: > > ===> lkm/wcd > install -c -o bin -g bin -m 555 wcd_mod.o > /usr/local/src/freebsd-3.0-CNL/lkm > cd /usr/local/src/freebsd-3.0-CNL/usr && rm -rf src && cvs -d co -P src > cvs: invalid option -- P > > Apparently the CVSROOT environment variable is never set so there is just > a blank after "cvs -d" instead of an absolute path name. Does anyone have > any clues as to how I to fix this? > It seems that you already have the answer: set the CVSROOT environment variable to wherever your cvs repository is. :-) John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 15:24:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21623 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA21541 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA28198; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:02:29 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199704162202.PAA28198@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: You will need to recompile your libc and apps!!! To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:02:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, toor@dyson.iquest.net In-Reply-To: <199704160807.SAA03190@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Apr 16, 97 06:07:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I forget if successful syscalls can clobber errno - what happens for > > { errno = 0; susccessful_syscall(); assert(errno == 0); } > > ? The errno is not modified by a successful system call. FreeBSD only sets errno in the real call case if the KERNCALL fails; your assert will not fail, unless the system call is actually encapsulated (see below). Since you can't depend on errno being set to 0 on a successful call, though: { errno = 5; successful_syscall(); assert(errno == 0); } will almost certainly fail (at least one platform I'm aware of wastes a couple of instruction cycles to zero errno on after a successful call; that platform is Wrong, since it is promoting platform dependency of user code). Also, there is no guarantee that the error state is not encapsulated in a (3) function which can make multiple (2) calls, one of which may fail without the encapsulated function failing, so you can not rely on the value not changing in all cases, so coding like: errno = 0; (void) successful_syscall(); if( errno) ... is a bad practice anyway, since provision of the actual "system call" functions is platform dependent, and the code is not portable to an encapsulation platform (like NT or VMS). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 17:30:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16545 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awhawks.perigee.net (ns2p31.cht.perigee.net [207.238.60.141]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16525 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2p31.cht.perigee.net (localhost.perigee.net [127.0.0.1]) by awhawks.perigee.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17285 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704170030.UAA17285@awhawks.perigee.net> To: current@freebsd.org From: "Adam W. Hawks" Reply-to: awhawks@perigee.net Subject: NE2000 clone problem Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:30:20 -0400 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a NE2000 clone that is probed during bootup as follows ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 9.163.4.8 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 9.163.255.255 ether 00:00:b4:6f:c0:f6 during the rc part of boot I get ed1: device timeout I have the port address set to 0x300 and irq at 10 with mem at 0xd8000 under win95 it works fine with these jumper settings and the generic NOVELL NE2000 driver in win95. after I login I can ping the card 9.163.4.8 but nothing else. I have looked at my configuration and don't have any irq conflics. What else could be preventing this card from working under FreeBSD-Current. The net picture of what I have is this IBM 9.163.4.8--------> Hub ------> Ethernet --------> site token ring TokenRing Bridge Is there any LINK[012] options that need to be set. The card has UTP and BNC connector with a AUI option connecter on the card itself. I have no idea who the manufacturer of the card is only has a NOVELL compatible sticker on the chip. Thanks in advance Adam W. Hawks awhawks@perigee.net From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 19:32:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00972 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00967; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA03615; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:32:37 -0700 (PDT) To: se@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:32:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3613.861244357@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I finally stuck the "new freefall" together today (it's temporarily going by the name of "ripcord.cdrom.com" until we get it all set up and ready to deploy) and it has an NCR/Symbios 53c875 based SCSI WIDE card in it, attached to a Quantum Atlas I WIDE drive. When I attempted to install 2.2.1, the NCR driver immediately fell over after probing the drive and started spitting out bits of failed sequencer commands; I didn't have anything to write them down on at the time and figured I could always reproduce them on demand later if need be, so apologies in advance for the lack of detail here (this is mostly a "heads up" message). I then went to 2.1.7 and it worked just great, so that's what we'll obviously have to run on ripcord for awhile. :-) Stefan - please let me know how you want to procede on this. Also, I have an extra one of these cards lying around and if you'd like to have it, just ask and I'll have it FedEx'd to you. I can understand that these cards are somewhat new (especially in WIDE) so you probably don't have one available for testing. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 20:22:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03033 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexis.net (customer-1.ican.net [198.133.36.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03024; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (james@localhost) by nexis.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA10814; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:18:34 -0400 (EDT) From: James FitzGibbon To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: se@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. In-Reply-To: <3613.861244357@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Well, I finally stuck the "new freefall" together today (it's > temporarily going by the name of "ripcord.cdrom.com" until we get it > all set up and ready to deploy) and it has an NCR/Symbios 53c875 based > SCSI WIDE card in it, attached to a Quantum Atlas I WIDE drive. When > I attempted to install 2.2.1, the NCR driver immediately fell over > after probing the drive and started spitting out bits of failed > sequencer commands; I didn't have anything to write them down on at > the time and figured I could always reproduce them on demand later if > need be, so apologies in advance for the lack of detail here (this is > mostly a "heads up" message). > > I then went to 2.1.7 and it worked just great, so that's what we'll > obviously have to run on ripcord for awhile. :-) > > Stefan - please let me know how you want to procede on this. Also, I > have an extra one of these cards lying around and if you'd like to > have it, just ask and I'll have it FedEx'd to you. I can understand > that these cards are somewhat new (especially in WIDE) so you probably > don't have one available for testing. We have 4 Compaq ProLiant 2500's at work running these things (integrated on the board, but same chipset), all 2.2.1R. Except for one problem we had with a Micropolis Tomahawk 4gb drive, we haven't seen a huge number of problems. All have 2x4gb Barracudas on them, and two have 20gb RAID units attached. -- j. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 20:57:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04843 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com (forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com [206.114.203.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04835 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (doogie@localhost) by forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA09930; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:59:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Young To: "Adam W. Hawks" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NE2000 clone problem In-Reply-To: <199704170030.UAA17285@awhawks.perigee.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Adam W. Hawks wrote: > I have a NE2000 clone that is probed during bootup as follows > > ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 9.163.4.8 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 9.163.255.255 > ether 00:00:b4:6f:c0:f6 > > during the rc part of boot I get > > ed1: device timeout > > I have the port address set to 0x300 and irq at 10 with mem at 0xd8000 > > under win95 it works fine with these jumper settings and the generic NOVELL > NE2000 driver in win95. > > after I login I can ping the card 9.163.4.8 but nothing else. [snip] > Is there any LINK[012] options that need to be set. The card has UTP and BNC > connector with a AUI option connecter on the card itself. I have no idea who > the manufacturer of the card is only has a NOVELL compatible sticker on the > chip. I generally get that timeout message if the IRQ is wrong and port/mem address is right. Judging by your message it's a jumper and not PnP or a card with NV memory of some sort, so I guess you have that right. The link options depend on what media you're having to plug it into. I must use link2 to get my LinkSys NE2000 clone to talk to 10BaseT. A simple serious of experiments with ifconfig will tell ya if that's it. Jason Young A-Net Technical Staff From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 21:15:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05797 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca8-13.ix.netcom.com [204.31.231.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05789; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) id VAA19766; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170415.VAA19766@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: james@nexis.net CC: jkh@time.cdrom.com, se@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from James FitzGibbon on Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:18:34 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Sorry, I'm really replying to Jordan quoted by James here....) * > Well, I finally stuck the "new freefall" together today (it's * > temporarily going by the name of "ripcord.cdrom.com" until we get it * > all set up and ready to deploy) and it has an NCR/Symbios 53c875 based * > SCSI WIDE card in it, attached to a Quantum Atlas I WIDE drive. When * > I attempted to install 2.2.1, the NCR driver immediately fell over * > after probing the drive and started spitting out bits of failed * > sequencer commands; I didn't have anything to write them down on at * > the time and figured I could always reproduce them on demand later if * > need be, so apologies in advance for the lack of detail here (this is * > mostly a "heads up" message). Are you sure that's an Atlas I? I seem to remember the Quantam Grand Prix used to have problems with NCR's. They are both 7200RPM drives, and have very similar model numbers (4GB versions: Atlas "34300", GP "34301").... Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 21:16:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05894 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05886 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id EAA22097; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:16:04 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:16:04 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: James FitzGibbon cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, James FitzGibbon wrote: > We have 4 Compaq ProLiant 2500's at work running these things (integrated > on the board, but same chipset), all 2.2.1R. Except for one problem we > had with a Micropolis Tomahawk 4gb drive, we haven't seen a huge number of > problems. All have 2x4gb Barracudas on them, and two have 20gb RAID units > attached. Are you using Dawson's SMART SCSI ARRAY driver? I might put FreeBSD on a ProLiant 2000 if I hear of more people using it with success. Mike From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 21:20:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06107 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06053; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA04183; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:19:52 -0700 (PDT) To: James FitzGibbon cc: se@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:18:34 EDT." Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:19:52 -0700 Message-ID: <4181.861250792@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We have 4 Compaq ProLiant 2500's at work running these things (integrated > on the board, but same chipset), all 2.2.1R. Except for one problem we WIDE or narrow drives? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 16 21:25:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06444 for current-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06438; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA04222; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:24:55 -0700 (PDT) To: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: james@nexis.net, se@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:15:22 PDT." <199704170415.VAA19766@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:24:54 -0700 Message-ID: <4220.861251094@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Are you sure that's an Atlas I? I seem to remember the Quantam Grand It's a Quantum XP34300W drive, according to the ID string at probe time Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 02:32:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22110 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 02:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA22104; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 02:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pcnet1.pcnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11391; Thu, 17 Apr 97 05:25:57 EDT Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 05:25:57 EDT From: eischen@vigrid.com (Daniel Eischen) Message-Id: <9704170925.AA11391@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu, james@nexis.net Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. Cc: current@freebsd.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, se@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * > Well, I finally stuck the "new freefall" together today (it's > * > temporarily going by the name of "ripcord.cdrom.com" until we get it > * > all set up and ready to deploy) and it has an NCR/Symbios 53c875 based > * > SCSI WIDE card in it, attached to a Quantum Atlas I WIDE drive. When > * > I attempted to install 2.2.1, the NCR driver immediately fell over > * > after probing the drive and started spitting out bits of failed > * > sequencer commands; I didn't have anything to write them down on at > * > the time and figured I could always reproduce them on demand later if > * > need be, so apologies in advance for the lack of detail here (this is > * > mostly a "heads up" message). > > Are you sure that's an Atlas I? I seem to remember the Quantam Grand > Prix used to have problems with NCR's. They are both 7200RPM drives, > and have very similar model numbers (4GB versions: Atlas "34300", GP > "34301").... I think I caught every thread on this, so forgive me if I am restating old news... Remember that some Quantum drives have buggy firmware. I believe it's the Atlaas series that have this bug. It seems they respond with QUEUE_FULL messages when their queues are not full. You can tell if you've got buggy firmware by checking to see if the revision level is L912. The most recent firmware is L915 and solves many problems aic7xxx users were seeing with these drives. ftp.qntm.com has all the tools and the firmware files needed to upgrade these drives. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 02:50:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22799 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 02:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA22772 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 02:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-15.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA08022 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:49:54 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA29782; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970417114955.56763@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:49:55 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. References: <3613.861244357@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.68 In-Reply-To: <3613.861244357@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 07:32:37PM -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Apr 16, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > Well, I finally stuck the "new freefall" together today (it's > temporarily going by the name of "ripcord.cdrom.com" until we get it > all set up and ready to deploy) and it has an NCR/Symbios 53c875 based > SCSI WIDE card in it, attached to a Quantum Atlas I WIDE drive. When > I attempted to install 2.2.1, the NCR driver immediately fell over Sorry to hear that! Getting this fixed will of course become the top-most point on my ToDo list. > after probing the drive and started spitting out bits of failed > sequencer commands; I didn't have anything to write them down on at > the time and figured I could always reproduce them on demand later if > need be, so apologies in advance for the lack of detail here (this is > mostly a "heads up" message). Hmmm, I'm surprised to hear you have that kind of trouble ... What brand of 53c875 card is that ? What's the chip revision of the 53c875 chip ? I definitely need some detailed error message information, not tens of lines, but at least all the numbers (and some text fragments) from the first 5 lines that indicate a problem ... > I then went to 2.1.7 and it worked just great, so that's what we'll > obviously have to run on ripcord for awhile. :-) Well, then please send a verbose boot message log from a 2.1.7 boot ... Guess that will answer most of the questions I forgot to include above :) > Stefan - please let me know how you want to procede on this. Also, I > have an extra one of these cards lying around and if you'd like to > have it, just ask and I'll have it FedEx'd to you. I can understand > that these cards are somewhat new (especially in WIDE) so you probably > don't have one available for testing. Well, I've even got two, by now :) (One was contributed by Larry M. Augustin (www.varesearch.com), who is selling Linux boxes with the BSD NCR driver as ported by Gerard Roudier . He wanted to have the driver tested with an SDMS BIOS based 875 card, too, in addition to my Tekram DC390F, and just sent one over! Larry was also very helpful by sending new Symbios docs, too, whenever he got ahold of them ...) And I bought an Ultra-Wide IBM DORS 2GB drive for testing, too, half a year ago. And it does work fine under -current (or I couldn't even compile a new kernel, since it holds my source tree :), and the Atlas should have even less of a problem ... (The 2.2 and -current drivers are very similar. But you may want top try building a kernel with the -current driver, anyway, or just once try to boot from a -current boot floppy ...) Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 03:26:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA24024 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexis.net (customer-1.ican.net [198.133.36.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24019 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (james@localhost) by nexis.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA12536; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:23:06 -0400 (EDT) From: James FitzGibbon To: Michael Hancock cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Michael Hancock wrote: > > We have 4 Compaq ProLiant 2500's at work running these things (integrated > > on the board, but same chipset), all 2.2.1R. Except for one problem we > > had with a Micropolis Tomahawk 4gb drive, we haven't seen a huge number of > > problems. All have 2x4gb Barracudas on them, and two have 20gb RAID units > > attached. > > Are you using Dawson's SMART SCSI ARRAY driver? I might put FreeBSD on a > ProLiant 2000 if I hear of more people using it with success. We don't have that on these machines. I've heard conflicting stories as to whether the controller is truly OS-neutral. We are going to be testing some complete OS-neutral RAID controllers next week; the name escapes me at the moment. Basically, you plug up to 15 Wide drives into one of these, plug it into your existing SCSI card, and voila; you have hardware RAID 5 with hot spares. To your SCSI adapter, it's just one big SCSI device. If the Compaq one works like that as well, we would also give it a shot, but overall we're looking to improve the reliability of the SCSI adapters that do fail in our systems - the standard clone-like machines. With the exception of that Micropolis, we've had nothing but good results with the ProLiants. -- j. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 03:28:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA24090 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexis.net (customer-1.ican.net [198.133.36.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24071; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (james@localhost) by nexis.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA12542; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:24:27 -0400 (EDT) From: James FitzGibbon To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: se@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. In-Reply-To: <4181.861250792@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > We have 4 Compaq ProLiant 2500's at work running these things (integrated > > on the board, but same chipset), all 2.2.1R. Except for one problem we > > WIDE or narrow drives? Fast wide: ncr0 rev 3 int a irq 11 on pci1:9 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:0:0): WIDE SCSI (16 bit) enabled(ncr0:0:0): 10.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 15) (ncr0:0:0): "COMPAQ ST34371W 0388" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:0:0): 20.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 15) 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:1:0): WIDE SCSI (16 bit) enabled(ncr0:1:0): 10.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 15) (ncr0:1:0): "COMPAQ ST34371W 0388" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ncr0:1:0): Direct-Access sd1(ncr0:1:0): 20.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 15) -- j. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 03:34:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA24509 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24503 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id KAA24763; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:34:34 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:34:34 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: James FitzGibbon cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, James FitzGibbon wrote: > > Are you using Dawson's SMART SCSI ARRAY driver? I might put FreeBSD on a > > ProLiant 2000 if I hear of more people using it with success. > > We don't have that on these machines. I've heard conflicting stories as > to whether the controller is truly OS-neutral. There are drivers for UnixWare, WinNT, and NetWare. Dawson's current driver for FreeBSD has only been tested with the PCI version. We have the older EISA version, but he notes on his web page that it will probably work anyway. Sorry, I've lost the URL. Mike From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 04:47:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27178 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27173 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id VAA26663; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:28:07 +1000 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:28:07 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199704171128.VAA26663@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: awhawks@perigee.net, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NE2000 clone problem Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >during the rc part of boot I get > >ed1: device timeout This usually means that the irq is misconfigured. > >I have the port address set to 0x300 and irq at 10 with mem at 0xd8000 The default irq for ed1 is 5. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 05:22:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA28089 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28082 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26753; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:22:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:22:43 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: John Polstra cc: bemfica@militzer.me.tuns.ca, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs problem In-Reply-To: <199704082334.QAA09341@austin.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 8 Apr 1997, John Polstra wrote: > In article , > Antonio Bemfica wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Apr 1997, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > > FreeBSD-current now uses secure ports by default. > > > > And what would be the proper way to reconcile this new behaviour with the > > requests by clients that want access through insecure ports? I'm having > > problems with amd, and would not like to just "make it work" now when > > there is a recommended way of doing it (especially if it will get "broken" > > again the next time I recompile the system). > > You can either configure the clients to use reserved ports, > or you can configure the server so that it doesn't require them. > To make a client use reserved ports, just add the "resvport" > option to its mount command lines, or to your amd map file: > > /defaults type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost};rhost:=${key} > * opts:=rw,grpid,resvport > > This option has already been added to /usr/src/etc/amd.map, by the > way. > > Somebody else on this list recently described how to change the > server configuration. Sorry, I don't remember how. I think you can just run mountd with the -n option and it will tweak the magic kernel variable that controls the behaviour. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 05:34:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA28780 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28761 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26764; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:33:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:33:53 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: phk@dk.tfs.com cc: dg@root.com, Garrett Wollman , Terry Lambert , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WHY? ...non-use of TAILQ macros... In-Reply-To: <1179.860742776@critter> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 phk@dk.tfs.com wrote: > > > Actually it was Poul-Henning who added those and I don't recall > >agreeing that I liked it. In fact, I recall thinking that it was > >completely unnecessary, but I don't think I made any comment at the > >time. > > Indeed, I started it, and I still have a bunch of patches, which I > promised not to commit until after the LITE2 merge. > > I think that is a weird inconsistent mess without them, > and I see no reason why we would want to hide half of the implementation > behind macros, but not the other half. > > I fully intend to complete the migration btw. Will you be adding accessors for the other list types as well? I noticed that they are only implemented for SLIST and TAILQ. For consistency at least, there should be accessors for STAILQ, LIST and CIRCLEQ. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 05:38:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA28974 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28969; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00792; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:36:41 +0200 (CEST) To: Doug Rabson cc: phk@dk.tfs.com, dg@root.com, Garrett Wollman , Terry Lambert , current@freebsd.org From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: WHY? ...non-use of TAILQ macros... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:33:53 BST." Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:36:41 +0200 Message-ID: <790.861280601@critter> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Do ug Rabson writes: >On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 phk@dk.tfs.com wrote: > >> Indeed, I started it, and I still have a bunch of patches, which I >> promised not to commit until after the LITE2 merge. >> >> I think that is a weird inconsistent mess without them, >> and I see no reason why we would want to hide half of the implementation >> behind macros, but not the other half. >> >> I fully intend to complete the migration btw. > >Will you be adding accessors for the other list types as well? I noticed >that they are only implemented for SLIST and TAILQ. For consistency at >least, there should be accessors for STAILQ, LIST and CIRCLEQ. Yes, but I'm doing this in a stepwise fashion and things take time... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 05:43:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA29159 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29149 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26799; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:42:55 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:42:55 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Randy Terbush cc: Thomas David Rivers , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (*my* problems found...yours?) NFS problems - it doesn't appear to be ep0. In-Reply-To: <199704150152.UAA11924@sierra.zyzzyva.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Randy Terbush wrote: > > Since 2.2-GAMMA a new flag has been added to the sysctl. > By setting vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=0, NFS works fine. For some reason, > the NFS server is booting with vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=1. Can anyone > explain the use of this parameter? > > #> sysctl vfs > vfs.nfs.nfs_privport: 0 > vfs.nfs.async: 0 > vfs.nfs.defect: 0 > vfs.nfs.diskless_valid: 0 > vfs.nfs.diskless_rootpath: > vfs.nfs.diskless_swappath: This variable is set by mountd depending on whether or not you use the -n option to mountd. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 10:24:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22806 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22792 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id KAA33754; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:24:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Bill Studenmund Subject: Netatalk1.4b1 speed patches Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just helped finish porting NetAtalk to NetBSD, and we've run into a problem I thought y'all had seen, and was wondering what y'all did about it. The problem is that copying files to/from the UN*X box is SLOW for some systems. The web page which had the patches for NetAtalk also had a pointer to a page with speed-up patches. That's the page I'm looking for, but I can't find it. Can someone give me pointers? Oh, and thanks again for all the FreeBSD work on porting NetAtalk. The NetBSD port of the user code mainly was changing all the #ifdef's from __FreeBSD to BSD4_4. :-) Take care, Bill P.S. Please keep my EMail in the replies as I can't subscribe to the list (I'm melting in lists at the moment). From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 13:06:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01114 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01109 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA27602; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <33568205.167EB0E7@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:03:17 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Studenmund CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netatalk1.4b1 speed patches References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bill Studenmund wrote: > > I just helped finish porting NetAtalk to NetBSD, and we've run into a > problem I thought y'all had seen, and was wondering what y'all did about > it. > > The problem is that copying files to/from the UN*X box is SLOW for some > systems. The web page which had the patches for NetAtalk also had a > pointer to a page with speed-up patches. That's the page I'm looking for, > but I can't find it. Can someone give me pointers? > > Oh, and thanks again for all the FreeBSD work on porting NetAtalk. The > NetBSD port of the user code mainly was changing all the #ifdef's from > __FreeBSD to BSD4_4. :-) send the patches and we can re-integrate them :) there are some upcoming FreeBSD patches that will be more differnt (to fit with garret's new usrreq stuff) but If I have your patches I can do both sets at once. As I think I once told you before, I don't know about speed-up patches.... sorry. > > Take care, > > Bill > > P.S. Please keep my EMail in the replies as I can't subscribe to the list > (I'm melting in lists at the moment). From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 17:57:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20196 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20191 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22733 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03589 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:57:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: libpcap problem? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been doing some work on tcpdump locally to merge lbl-3.3 into what we presently have in -current. Before merging libpcap-0.3 I stopped to do some testing with tcpdump and found an odd problem with stock tcpdump/libpcap. Casting aside my work, CVSupping -current at about 1400pdt today and remaking world & kernel (heading the public advice from polstra and dyson) I still see a problem in the stock -current tcpdump/libpcap. The problem is that if you specify a port symbolically, it is not correctly translated into BPF code. Consider port 37, used for time, from my apparantly normal (i.e. not the source of the problem) /etc/services: # grep time /etc/services daytime 13/tcp daytime 13/udp time 37/tcp timserver time 37/udp timserver xns-time 52/tcp #XNS Time Protocol xns-time 52/udp #XNS Time Protocol appleqtc 458/tcp #apple quick time appleqtc 458/udp #apple quick time utime 519/tcp unixtime utime 519/udp unixtime timed 525/tcp timeserver timed 525/udp timeserver timeflies 1362/tcp timeflies 1362/udp mmcc 5050/tcp #multimedia conference control tool mmcc 5050/udp #multimedia conference control tool You would expect that 0x25 should be generated in the BPF codes to match against this port, and it is - as shown on lines 8 and 10 below: # tcpdump -d udp port 37 (000) ldh [12] (001) jeq #0x800 jt 2 jf 12 (002) ldb [23] (003) jeq #0x11 jt 4 jf 12 (004) ldh [20] (005) jset #0x1fff jt 12 jf 6 (006) ldxb 4*([14]&0xf) (007) ldh [x + 14] (008) jeq #0x25 jt 11 jf 9 (009) ldh [x + 16] (010) jeq #0x25 jt 11 jf 12 (011) ret #68 (012) ret #0 now look what happens when we specify our port symbolically: # tcpdump -d udp port time (000) ldh [12] (001) jeq #0x800 jt 2 jf 12 (002) ldb [23] (003) jeq #0x11 jt 4 jf 12 (004) ldh [20] (005) jset #0x1fff jt 12 jf 6 (006) ldxb 4*([14]&0xf) (007) ldh [x + 14] (008) jeq #0x2500 jt 11 jf 9 (009) ldh [x + 16] (010) jeq #0x2500 jt 11 jf 12 (011) ret #68 (012) ret #0 0x25 becomes 0x2500 and tcpdump doesn't match udp port time, it matches udp port 0x2500 :( Any ideas? I am a gdb novice but managed to compile libpcap with -g and link it in; I could see that the getservbyname() wasn't the problem, but also kept getting a lot of 'illegal address' errors, probably something normal that I never have encountered before. Ideas? -Chris From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 21:37:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA01738 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01733 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08348; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:37:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Julian Elischer cc: Bill Studenmund , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netatalk1.4b1 speed patches In-Reply-To: <33568205.167EB0E7@whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Julian Elischer wrote: > As I think I once told you before, I don't know about speed-up > patches.... sorry. The only speed-up patches I was ever aware of (and used) were for older versions of netatalk. That may be the confusion. -john From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 21:53:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02587 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02580 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id EAA00861; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:52:36 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:52:36 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: Darren Reed cc: kato@freefall.freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Consistency checks (was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/miscfs/union union_vnops.c) In-Reply-To: <199704160851.SAA09685@plum.cyber.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [moved to current] On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Darren Reed wrote: > In some mail I received from Michael Hancock, sie wrote > > > > I saw that you found the real fix later. Cool. > > > > Regarding the below, I think it's better to panic in this case. Making > > things robust often works against making it work correctly. Consistency > > checks that result in panics are there to help you find problems. Working > > around consistency checks usually results in crufty code. > > A system that is up is a good thing. > > If a systems admin. can crash it by typing a mount command (for example) > incorrectly, that is bad (IMHO). I see what you're getting at but I'd > prefer it to return a nasty error. > You guys both make valid point and I like to point out a couple of things: a) You're working in current and most administrators are smart enough to know they should be using some stable. b) Unionfs is widely known to be broken and it is not a central subsystem that everyone depends upon yet. People experimenting with it should get into a habit of doing a sync before using it in current. c) In a release, if it is still broken the mount_union command can be disabled so that it doesn't trigger a kernel panic. Kato-san is on about using good judgement case by case and I'd like to offer some guidelines that are helpful when in doubt about a micro-decision, development strategy, or whatever programming habit you decide to use. Pick out some external software system qualities and order them by importance to you and preferrably most others. It's good to know what others think are important anyway. I like to look at the following dimensions in the following order or priority: 1) Correctness - It does what it was designed to do. 2) Performance - This matters more than you think. 3) Robustness - This matters to a lot of users, but it can work against 1 and 2. The solution I provided above satisfies these 3 qualities in the following ways: 1) The consistency checks will help you find bugs sooner and finding and fixing bugs early leads to higher quality code. 2) Performance is enhanced because you don't have a bunch of 'if' statements written solely for the purpose of working around a bug. 3) The code will be more readable helping you to find the bug. You don't need to wade through a bunch of work arounds. 4) In the release code, if the bug is still not found. The external user land mount_union is disabled, preventing users from crashing the system. This method of coding in robustness will look more professional to the end user than a hang and it doesn't interfere with internal debugging techniques. Regards, Mike Hancock > > > kato 97/04/15 05:57:00 > > > > > > Modified: sys/miscfs/union union_vnops.c > > > Log: > > > Quick-hack to avoid `lock against myself' panic. It is not the real > > > fix! > > > > > > The ufs_link() assumes that vnode is not unlocked and tries to lock it > > > in certain case. Because union_link calls VOP_LINK after locking vnode, > > > vn_lock in ufs_link causes above panic. > > > > > > Currently, I don't know the real fix for a locking violation in > > > union_link, but I think it is important to avoid panic. > > > > > > A vnode is unlocked before calling VOP_LINK and is locked after it if > > > the vnode is not union fs. Even though panic went away, the process > > > that access the union fs in which link was made will hang-up. > > > > > > Hang-up can be easily reproduced by following operation: > > > > > > mount -t union a b > > > cd b > > > ln foo bar > > > ls > > > > > > Revision Changes Path > > > 1.24 +15 -2 src/sys/miscfs/union/union_vnops.c > > > > > > > > -- michaelh@cet.co.jp http://www.cet.co.jp CET Inc., Daiichi Kasuya BLDG 8F 2-5-12, Higashi Shinbashi, Minato-ku, Tokyo 105 Japan Tel: +81-3-3437-1761 Fax: +81-3-3437-1766 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 22:03:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03056 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA03049 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0wI5p1-0004eB-00; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:02:55 -0600 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Bug in dump | restore Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:02:55 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Consider: # newfs /some/place/interesting # mount /some/place/interesting # cd /some/place/interesting # dump 0f - /usr | restore -rf - ... warning: cannot create hard link ./bin/ypchsh->./bin/chpass: Operation not permitted warning: cannot create hard link ./bin/ypchfn->./bin/chpass: Operation not permitted warning: cannot create hard link ./bin/ypchpass->./bin/chpass: Operation not permitted warning: cannot create hard link ./bin/chsh->./bin/chpass: Operation not permitted warning: cannot create hard link ./bin/chfn->./bin/chpass: Operation not permitted warning: cannot create hard link ./bin/yppasswd->./bin/passwd: Operation not permitted chpass and passwd are imutable, so the hardlink fails. I claim this is a bug. Can anybody think of a good reason to think of this as a desirable feature? Warner P.S. All the links should be created and then the mutable flags should be set, imho. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 22:19:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03658 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03653 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id WAA26846; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:19:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:19:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund Reply-To: Bill Studenmund To: John Fieber cc: Julian Elischer , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netatalk1.4b1 speed patches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, John Fieber wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Julian Elischer wrote: > > The only speed-up patches I was ever aware of (and used) were for > older versions of netatalk. That may be the confusion. Could be. It was before 1.4 came out. Take care, Bill From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 23:41:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07641 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (mistwolf@ds9.lesn.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.70.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07633 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA14413 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 02:41:22 -0400 From: Jamie Message-Id: <199704180641.CAA14413@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu> Subject: Installation To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-questions) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:41:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Recently, I downloaded a copy of FreeBSD (3.0-current). After making the appropriate boot instaall disk, and booting, I get the kernel configuration screen. After going through thhat and setting it to my system (Incidentally, its a generic Pentium motherboard with a Cyric P-166+ CPU, 16M ram, 2.02G IDE hard drive primary, 1.2G HD secondary HD with a GoldStar CD-ROM. ATI video card, USR modem, Windows Sound Source sound card. Adaptec 1522A SCSI controller... Ummm... That about coevers it..) Anyway, after I exit the kernal config, the screen goes blank and nothing happens. Ive tried re-making the boot disk on a differnt disk, and so on, but I cannot get a response after that pointl. Any ideas what causes this? MW -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ |The shadows of life cover the sunlight of the soul, and block out the| |radiance that all have within them, leaving only darkness behind. | +-----------------------------+---------------------+-----------------+ |mistwolf@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu | mistwolf@netcom.com | mistwolf@io.com | +-----------------------------+---------------------+-----------------+ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 17 23:44:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07765 for current-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (mistwolf@ds9.lesn.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.70.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07758 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA14421 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 02:43:47 -0400 From: Jamie Message-Id: <199704180643.CAA14421@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu> Subject: TEST: Disregard delete ignore To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-current) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:43:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Testing this alias, please pardon and ignore. -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ |The shadows of life cover the sunlight of the soul, and block out the| |radiance that all have within them, leaving only darkness behind. | +-----------------------------+---------------------+-----------------+ |mistwolf@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu | mistwolf@netcom.com | mistwolf@io.com | +-----------------------------+---------------------+-----------------+ From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 03:18:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA22749 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 03:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA22744 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 03:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id MAA02947 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:18:00 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA02703; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:05:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970418120545.GI46508@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:05:45 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libpcap problem? References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Chris Timmons on Apr 17, 1997 17:57:26 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Chris Timmons wrote: > You would expect that 0x25 should be generated in the BPF codes to match > against this port, and it is - as shown on lines 8 and 10 below: ... > now look what happens when we specify our port symbolically: > 0x25 becomes 0x2500 and tcpdump doesn't match udp port time, it matches > udp port 0x2500 :( There's a htons() missing somewhere. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 04:25:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA26233 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com ([195.8.128.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26220; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19057; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:10:24 +0200 (CEST) To: Chris Timmons cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: libpcap problem? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:57:26 PDT." Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:10:22 +0200 Message-ID: <19055.861343822@critter> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Chris Ti mmons writes: > >0x25 becomes 0x2500 and tcpdump doesn't match udp port time, it matches >udp port 0x2500 :( missing htons() or ntohs() ... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 04:44:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27369 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA27351 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id NAA03613; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:43:21 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04383; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:39:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970418133949.YI30157@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:39:49 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org (freebsd-questions) Cc: mistwolf@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (Jamie) Subject: Re: Installation References: <199704180641.CAA14413@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199704180641.CAA14413@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu>; from Jamie on Apr 17, 1997 23:41:21 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jamie wrote: > Anyway, after I exit the kernal config, the screen goes blank and nothing > happens. Add flags 0x1 to the device npx0. This will turn of the optimized pentium bcopy(), IIRC. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 07:52:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10442 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 07:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10437 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 07:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21069; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:52:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:52:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704181452.IAA21069@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: current@freebsd.org Subject: NFS comments X-Mailer: VM 6.27 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed Doug making some fixes in -current for some bugs, do any of these also apply to 2.2.1. Also, I think I've figured out why I'm not having any NFS problems on my 2.2.1 box. Does NFS default to V3 if I use it in /etc/fstab file and the box supports it? My servers are solaris 2.5.1 boxes, and I've not had *any* problems whatsoever beating them up from FreeBSD clients. Does that ring any bells? Nate From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 09:27:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15051 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15032 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00992 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:27:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:27:35 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Danger Will Robinson Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have changed both mount_nfs and amd to use NFSv3 in preference to v2 if it is supported by the server. This means that machines which have been using v2 by default will now start using the v3 protocol. I believe that the v3 support in current is stable enough to make it the default but no doubt someone will prove me wrong. To revert to the old behaviour, add the nfsv2 option to either /etc/fstab for static mounts or to the amd map defaults for automounts. This will force the use of the older protocol. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 09:35:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15806 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15797 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01008; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:34:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:34:47 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Nate Williams cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS comments In-Reply-To: <199704181452.IAA21069@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > I noticed Doug making some fixes in -current for some bugs, do any of > these also apply to 2.2.1. Also, I think I've figured out why I'm not > having any NFS problems on my 2.2.1 box. Does NFS default to V3 if I > use it in /etc/fstab file and the box supports it? My servers are > solaris 2.5.1 boxes, and I've not had *any* problems whatsoever beating > them up from FreeBSD clients. Does that ring any bells? Some of the kernel fixes are relavent to 2.2 and all the user fixes are relavent. I was planning to let them soak for a few days in current before updating the 2.2 branch. NFS will now default to V3 if not otherwise specified in /etc/fstab (with my latest change to mount_nfs). Before today, it would use V2 unless the nfsv3 option was present. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 09:40:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16157 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16150 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22251; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:40:03 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:40:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704181640.KAA22251@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Doug Rabson Cc: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS comments In-Reply-To: References: <199704181452.IAA21069@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.27 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I noticed Doug making some fixes in -current for some bugs, do any of > > these also apply to 2.2.1. Also, I think I've figured out why I'm not > > having any NFS problems on my 2.2.1 box. Does NFS default to V3 if I > > use it in /etc/fstab file and the box supports it? My servers are > > solaris 2.5.1 boxes, and I've not had *any* problems whatsoever beating > > them up from FreeBSD clients. Does that ring any bells? > > Some of the kernel fixes are relavent to 2.2 and all the user fixes are > relavent. I was planning to let them soak for a few days in current > before updating the 2.2 branch. Great! > NFS will now default to V3 if not otherwise specified in /etc/fstab (with > my latest change to mount_nfs). Before today, it would use V2 unless the > nfsv3 option was present. So my NFS mounts to the Solaris boxes are using NFS V2 now then since my box is running 2.2.1? Nate From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 09:56:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17595 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17560 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01122; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:55:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:55:47 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Nate Williams cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS comments In-Reply-To: <199704181640.KAA22251@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > > > I noticed Doug making some fixes in -current for some bugs, do any of > > > these also apply to 2.2.1. Also, I think I've figured out why I'm not > > > having any NFS problems on my 2.2.1 box. Does NFS default to V3 if I > > > use it in /etc/fstab file and the box supports it? My servers are > > > solaris 2.5.1 boxes, and I've not had *any* problems whatsoever beating > > > them up from FreeBSD clients. Does that ring any bells? > > > > Some of the kernel fixes are relavent to 2.2 and all the user fixes are > > relavent. I was planning to let them soak for a few days in current > > before updating the 2.2 branch. > > Great! > > > NFS will now default to V3 if not otherwise specified in /etc/fstab (with > > my latest change to mount_nfs). Before today, it would use V2 unless the > > nfsv3 option was present. > > So my NFS mounts to the Solaris boxes are using NFS V2 now then since my > box is running 2.2.1? Thats right. For 2.2.1, add 'nfsv3' to the options in /etc/fstab. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 10:15:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19137 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19129 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-48.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA19804 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:14:38 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA09100; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:14:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970418191435.61194@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:14:35 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Satoshi Asami Cc: james@nexis.net, jkh@time.cdrom.com, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. References: <199704170415.VAA19766@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.68 In-Reply-To: <199704170415.VAA19766@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from Satoshi Asami on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 09:15:22PM -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Apr 16, Satoshi Asami wrote: > Are you sure that's an Atlas I? I seem to remember the Quantam Grand > Prix used to have problems with NCR's. They are both 7200RPM drives, > and have very similar model numbers (4GB versions: Atlas "34300", GP > "34301").... While I would not buy a Grand-Prix myself, the driver does in fact support it for some two years, already. The problem was reported by Christoph Kukulies. He agreed to test patches on his system (a requirement, if somebody wants to have his particul hardware supported, that I have no access to, otherwise :) and the first patch I sent fixed the problem ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 10:19:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19299 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19294 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-48.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA27180 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:19:15 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA09121; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:19:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970418191914.13948@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:19:14 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Satoshi Asami Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, james@nexis.net, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. References: <4220.861251094@time.cdrom.com> <199704170501.WAA19842@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.68 In-Reply-To: <199704170501.WAA19842@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from Satoshi Asami on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 10:01:49PM -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Apr 16, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * It's a Quantum XP34300W drive, according to the ID string at probe > * time > > I see. Then it should work fine. I wonder why 875 is different then, > it's not Ultra-SCSI anyway (I've used the same model with 825 > successfully).... There is one significant difference: All 53c825 cards use a 40MHz oscillator, while some 53c875 cards come with an 80MHz crystal ... The driver uses hints from the BIOS, and falls back to measuring the oscillator frequency, if nothing else works. Recent 53c875 cards seem to use the clock doubler and an external 40MHz clock, and that is what the 2.1.x version of the NCR driver assumed. It is possible, that Jordans card is 40MHz, but appears to have some other frequency as seen by the NCR driver's init code. (I tested both a 40MHz and a 80MHz driven 875 card in my system, and could not get the probe to fail a single time ...) Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 10:44:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21195 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21186 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA02589; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:44:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:44:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: Doug Rabson Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS comments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Some of the kernel fixes are relavent to 2.2 and all the user fixes are >relavent. I was planning to let them soak for a few days in current >before updating the 2.2 branch. Once this makes it to 2.2, I could start using it...is there a place where the unwashed masses such as myself could learn the cosmetic differences between v2 and v3? Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 10:48:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21670 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21665 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (karl@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id MAA22039; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.5/8.8.2) id MAA26966; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970418124839.37391@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:48:39 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: Doug Rabson Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Fri, Apr 18, 1997 at 05:27:35PM +0100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Apr 18, 1997 at 05:27:35PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > I have changed both mount_nfs and amd to use NFSv3 in preference to v2 if > it is supported by the server. This means that machines which have been > using v2 by default will now start using the v3 protocol. I believe that > the v3 support in current is stable enough to make it the default but no > doubt someone will prove me wrong. > > To revert to the old behaviour, add the nfsv2 option to either /etc/fstab > for static mounts or to the amd map defaults for automounts. This will > force the use of the older protocol. > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 > Are you saying that if I'm running a -CURRENT client I can mount a filesystem over NFS and the system will NOT blow up if I execute something over that NFS mounted link -- and its V3? This is definitely not true by default with -CURRENT kernels, and I'd like to know if it is with these changes in place. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, http://www.mcs.net/ Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| NOW Serving 56kbps DIGITAL on our analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 11:51:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25160 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25153 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA08481 for current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 20:51:44 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05650; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 20:30:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970418203013.JK38912@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 20:30:13 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NFS comments References: <199704181640.KAA22251@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Apr 18, 1997 17:55:47 +0100 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Doug Rabson wrote: > > So my NFS mounts to the Solaris boxes are using NFS V2 now then since my > > box is running 2.2.1? > > Thats right. For 2.2.1, add 'nfsv3' to the options in /etc/fstab. Shouldn't this be `-3'? We deprecated the long forms of all options, and it was decided to not even document them. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 12:16:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA26846 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26833 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imp by rover.village.org with local (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0wIJ9F-0005Yv-00; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:16:41 -0600 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? Message-Id: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:16:41 -0600 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have a PPro 180 machine that is currently building world in about 5 hours +-. This time is from a "clean" state, not from a previously built state. I've been told that it maybe possible to do this in 1:21. My question is: How do I morph the machine I have into a faster build box? I have 64M memory, a SuperMicro 6SNS motherboard, 60ns memory, and one SCSI disk (a Quantum Fireball 10.5ms 4500). A second disk (a jaz drive, 12ms 5400) didn't seem to make the build faster or slower. The MB has built in SCSI "2940UW". The fireball is the "ultra" version only. As I see it, I have the following avenues to make it faster: 1) Buy more memory 2) Buy 50ns memory (the board can cope) 3) Buy a faster disk, ultrawide scsi 7200 or faster disk. 4) Overclock the 180 to 200 or 233 (I have a good heat sink and fan) 5) Get a second scsi bus 6) ccd? I'd imagine that the easiest thing to do would be 1) or 3), with 3 giving me the best bang for the buck (that is, spend $700-$800 for 1-4G disk or 2-2G). I'd get another 64M of memory (which would be $320-$350). Can those that have tweaked for this sort of thing help me out here? I'm running -current as of April 17 (ctm cvs-cur 3222). Also, what is the 1:21 number really? Thanks for any help you can give me. Please lemme know if I should take this to a different list. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 12:47:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28490 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28483 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA03161 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:47:32 -0700 (PDT) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: AMD build failure in -current. Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:47:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3158.861392852@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/afs_ops.c:44: /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../include/am.h:52: nfs_prot.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/am_ops.c:44: /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../include/am.h:52: nfs_prot.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/clock.c:55: /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../include/am.h:52: nfs_prot.h: No such file or directory Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 12:52:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28945 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28873 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00364; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02097; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: Warner Losh cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 1. Make sure you have -pipe in /etc/make.conf CFLAGS 2. Mount the partition(s) that carry /usr/src and /usr/obj async. Think carefully before doing this to your /usr if you don't have enough free partitions to isolate just src and obj onto their own mountpoints; a crash could require newfs to fix :) 3. Think carefully before using async mounts. 4. Think real hard about whether or not you want to async mount ... got that fixit floppy handy? ... I ran mw tests using ccd with fast/wide disks across a 3940 on a pro/200 and saw only marginal improvement; async definately is what speeds things up. My -current build machine at the moment is a pro200, 32mb of EDO and one f/w disk on a 3940. With async /usr, CFLAGS -pipe -0, no eBones or secure and NOMANCOMPRESS I was building in about 1:41 yesterday afternoon. hope this helps, -Chris From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 13:17:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00624 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00612 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24268; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704182016.OAA24268@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.27 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > My question is: > How do I morph the machine I have into a faster build box? > > 3) Buy a faster disk, ultrawide scsi 7200 or faster disk. That's my suggestion. The build is pretty much I/O bound with your processor, so you don't need more cycles, but more I/O. I was suprised how much faster the Barracuda in the P6 was over the Fuji in my P5 box (5400 rpm drive compared to a 7200 rpm drive). Nate From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 13:30:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01401 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01393 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA12673 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:51:46 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma012667; Fri Apr 18 14:51:18 1997 Received: from milo.lodgenet.com ([10.0.11.51]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA23324 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:50:32 -0500 Received: from milo.lodgenet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by milo.lodgenet.com (8.8.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA14482 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:51:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704181951.OAA14482@milo.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: suid and perl5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:51:17 -0500 From: John Prince Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a problem with setuid and perl5?? The following works with 2.1.0-RELEASE, and not on 2.2.1-RELEASE ----myfile start-- #!/usr/local/bin/perl print "EUID=$> RUID=$<\n"; exit; ----myfile end-- sudo chmod 4755 myfile sudo chown root myfile myfile returns nothing... Any Suggestions?? John Prince From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 13:49:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02343 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02334 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09710; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199704182048.QAA09710@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Chris Timmons Cc: Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > 2. Mount the partition(s) that carry /usr/src and /usr/obj > async. Think carefully before doing this to your /usr if Don't foget noatime as well... That can help for steps like depend and obj where you touch at a minimum every Makefile and every .depend file, and sometimes every source file as well. (Although I still haven't done it for my /usr/src disk, but then I don't compete in the WorldStone races, either.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 14:33:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05151 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.uniserve.com (mercury.uniserve.com [204.191.197.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05146 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (shell.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by mercury.uniserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA00249; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:39:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: John Prince cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suid and perl5 In-Reply-To: <199704181951.OAA14482@milo.lodgenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, John Prince wrote: > Is there a problem with setuid and perl5?? > The following works with 2.1.0-RELEASE, and not on 2.2.1-RELEASE > > ----myfile start-- > #!/usr/local/bin/perl > > print "EUID=$> RUID=$<\n"; > exit; > ----myfile end-- > sudo chmod 4755 myfile > sudo chown root myfile > myfile > returns nothing... > > Any Suggestions?? > > John Prince You should be using /usr/bin/suidperl It also depends on how the perl5 was built. Tom System Support Uniserve From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 17:22:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA15925 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15916 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA03517; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:20:32 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199704190020.RAA03517@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? To: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu (Chris Timmons) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:20:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: imp@village.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chris Timmons" at Apr 18, 97 12:52:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 3. Think carefully before using async mounts. > > 4. Think real hard about whether or not you want to async mount ... > got that fixit floppy handy? Actually... I found an issue with MNT_ASYNC in /sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c in the fscync() code. Specifically, in the mount case, it doesn't wait for the write on the mount point being covered. I don't think this should be overridden in the mount point covering case, actually... it seems like it can lead to some ...problems. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 17:46:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17109 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp01-58.zyzzyva.com [208.214.58.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17098 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id TAA22403; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:50:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704190050.TAA22403@sierra.zyzzyva.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Doug Rabson cc: Randy Terbush , Thomas David Rivers , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (*my* problems found...yours?) NFS problems - it doesn't appear to be ep0. In-reply-to: dfr's message of Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:42:55 +0100. X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:50:03 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Randy Terbush wrote: > > > > > Since 2.2-GAMMA a new flag has been added to the sysctl. > > By setting vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=0, NFS works fine. For some reason, > > the NFS server is booting with vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=1. Can anyone > > explain the use of this parameter? > > > > #> sysctl vfs > > vfs.nfs.nfs_privport: 0 > > vfs.nfs.async: 0 > > vfs.nfs.defect: 0 > > vfs.nfs.diskless_valid: 0 > > vfs.nfs.diskless_rootpath: > > vfs.nfs.diskless_swappath: > > This variable is set by mountd depending on whether or not you use the -n > option to mountd. > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 I have a 2.2.1 box trying to mount another 2.2.1 box. I get the following. In order to allow a mount, I need to change vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=0. I am running 'mountd' _without_ a -n flag. NFS request from unprivileged port (123.223.323.423:1314) NFS request from unprivileged port (123.223.323.423:1314) NFS request from unprivileged port (123.223.323.423:1314) NFS request from unprivileged port (123.223.323.423:1314) NFS request from unprivileged port (123.223.323.423:1314) NFS request from unprivileged port (123.223.323.423:1314) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 21:32:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25190 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25178 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA06542 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:32:04 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id GAA20311 for current@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:31:32 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id CAA26518; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:24:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970419022411.65453@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:24:11 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 In-Reply-To: ; from Warner Losh on Fri, Apr 18, 1997 at 01:16:41PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3195 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Warner Losh: > built state. I've been told that it maybe possible to do this in 1:21. I did it on a PPro/180 with 64 MB RAM BUT with the following things: - /usr/obj is mounted "async", - NOPROFILE=yes - NOCLEAN=yes but /usr/obj was empty - CFLAGS="-O -pipe" - /usr/src & /usr/obj are on different disks, both 7200 rpm on a Adaptec 7880 based SCSI card. Now that my PPro/180 runs at 200 MHz thanks to a jumper change, I'll see what the next "make world" give. To give a comparison, my home 486DX4/100 + 32 MB + BT747S + AHA-1740 and /usr/src and /usr/obj on different disks and controllers does a "make world" in about 4 hours. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: There are no limits -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #41: Sun Mar 23 23:01:22 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 21:32:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25209 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25202 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA06545 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:32:06 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id GAA20310 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:31:31 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id CAA26501; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:18:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970419021802.33889@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:18:02 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: suid and perl5 References: <199704181951.OAA14482@milo.lodgenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 In-Reply-To: <199704181951.OAA14482@milo.lodgenet.com>; from John Prince on Fri, Apr 18, 1997 at 02:51:17PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3195 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to John Prince: > Is there a problem with setuid and perl5?? Which Perl5 ? 5.002 ? 5.003 ? 5.003_nn (where nn is between 01 and 97f) ? > #!/usr/local/bin/perl > > print "EUID=$> RUID=$<\n"; > exit; > ----myfile end-- You may need to use /usr/local/bin/suidperl although on my CURRENT box with 5.003_97a, it works perfectly: -r-sr-xr-x 1 root staff 69 Apr 19 02:15 src/Perl/s.pl 356 [2:15] roberto@keltia:~/src/Perl> ./s.pl EUID=0 RUID=101 357 [2:15] roberto@keltia:~/src/Perl> cat s.pl #!/usr/local/bin/perl print "EUID=$> RUID=$<\n"; exit; 359 [2:15] roberto@keltia:~/src/Perl> perl -V Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 3 subversion 97) configuration: Platform: osname=freebsd, osvers=3.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd ... Locally applied patches: Dev97A - First development patch to 5.003_97 Built under freebsd Compiled at Apr 6 1997 21:27:33 -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: There are no limits -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #41: Sun Mar 23 23:01:22 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 18 22:48:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA27499 for current-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27490 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id WAA29042; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17328; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704190547.WAA17328@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Warner Losh cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 18 Apr 97 13:16:41 -0600. Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:47:44 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a PPro 180 machine that is currently building world in about >5 hours +-. This time is from a "clean" state, not from a previously >built state. I've been told that it maybe possible to do this in 1:21. Unless there is something really huge in your source tree that isn't in mine, yours is taking waaay too long. > How do I morph the machine I have into a faster build box? >I have 64M memory, a SuperMicro 6SNS motherboard, 60ns memory, and one >SCSI disk (a Quantum Fireball 10.5ms 4500). A second disk (a jaz drive, >12ms 5400) didn't seem to make the build faster or slower. The MB has >built in SCSI "2940UW". The fireball is the "ultra" version only. If I remember right, there were some of these that were actually much less capable than their stand-alone counterparts (only allowed three outstanding transactions, or something like that). Wonder if you got one of those. >As I see it, I have the following avenues to make it faster: > 1) Buy more memory You have more than enough already. > 2) Buy 50ns memory (the board can cope) That shouldn't matter much. > 3) Buy a faster disk, ultrawide scsi 7200 or faster disk. This could help. But you'd be better off buying more smaller disks (4500-5400 rpm, not wide) and striping them. Do some people not listen? (See Joe Greco's millions of posts on this.) > 4) Overclock the 180 to 200 or 233 (I have a good heat sink and fan) Somebody wasn't paying attention when I said don't buy a multiple of 30. Sigh. A 166 would most likely have run faster. On the upside, you can probably overclock that chip to 200MHz. That will make a significant difference (though not more than 10%). > 5) Get a second scsi bus Couldn't hurt. > 6) ccd? Get the religion, brother! >Can those that have tweaked for this sort of thing help me out here? I'm >running -current as of April 17 (ctm cvs-cur 3222). >Also, what is the 1:21 number really? I'm at least one of the people who claimed a 1:21 time. Here's what I did... It was on NetBSD just before 1.2 was released -- not FreeBSD. There shouldn't be a significant difference, though. I did it on a 200MHz Pentium Pro, running in an Asus P6NP5 (Natoma/440FX) motherboard. Using 64MB of 60ns EDO SIMMs. I was running an Adaptec 2940UW (the real card, not a built-in chip), with tagged-command-queuing turned on in the kernel. All my binaries and sources were on one Seagate 2GB Barracuda -- very fast, and the object tree was writing to a mostly empty old Seagate 1GB 31200N -- not super fast (both drives were borrowed). My filesystems were async mounted. All my binaries, including the kernel, had been built previously with these flags (under gcc 2.7.2): -O6 -m486 -pipe -fno-strength-reduce. I also did the test build with the same flags. The object directory was totally empty at the beginning of the build. I let the build do all the standard parts (build standard, profiled, and shared libraries, format man pages, etc.), including make install. The build output was directed to a text file, and I checked the text file after the build to verify that there were no failures during the build which might have affected the time (and there were none). I was not running X, but was running only a text console during the build. I can't think of anything else relevant... Although I was running on borrowed, non-striped drives during these tests, my "production" system that I use for day-to-day work is ccd striped over four SCSI drives. FWIW... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 01:19:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA01999 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01991 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05273; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:19:04 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:19:04 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Brian N. Handy" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS comments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Brian N. Handy wrote: > >Some of the kernel fixes are relavent to 2.2 and all the user fixes are > >relavent. I was planning to let them soak for a few days in current > >before updating the 2.2 branch. > > Once this makes it to 2.2, I could start using it...is there a place where > the unwashed masses such as myself could learn the cosmetic differences > between v2 and v3? The best place is rfc1813. I think that you might find some more readable information from Sun's web site. The main difference between v2 and v3 is the v3 has a more advanced write protocol, allowing better write performance, still with a stateless server. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 01:20:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA02112 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA02103 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA17936; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:20:43 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10919; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:54:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970419095404.HL30351@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:54:04 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Cc: johnp@lodgenet.com (John Prince) Subject: Re: suid and perl5 References: <199704181951.OAA14482@milo.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199704181951.OAA14482@milo.lodgenet.com>; from John Prince on Apr 18, 1997 14:51:17 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As John Prince wrote: > Is there a problem with setuid and perl5?? > The following works with 2.1.0-RELEASE, and not on 2.2.1-RELEASE > > ----myfile start-- > #!/usr/local/bin/perl Whether this works or not is a build feature (of the port, not of the mainstream system in your case). It's the DOSUID define in config.h. The mainstream source (/usr/bin/*perl) doesn't define it, so i assume the port eventually has been configured in a similar way. Using #!/usr/bin/suidperl or #!/usr/local/bin/suidperl is IMHO always guaranteed to work (except of a time window where our port had a broken suidperl). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 01:22:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA02207 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02195 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05295; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:22:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:22:17 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Karl Denninger cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson In-Reply-To: <19970418124839.37391@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Karl Denninger wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 1997 at 05:27:35PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > I have changed both mount_nfs and amd to use NFSv3 in preference to v2 if > > it is supported by the server. This means that machines which have been > > using v2 by default will now start using the v3 protocol. I believe that > > the v3 support in current is stable enough to make it the default but no > > doubt someone will prove me wrong. > > > > To revert to the old behaviour, add the nfsv2 option to either /etc/fstab > > for static mounts or to the amd map defaults for automounts. This will > > force the use of the older protocol. > > > > -- > > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 > > > > Are you saying that if I'm running a -CURRENT client I can mount a > filesystem over NFS and the system will NOT blow up if I execute something > over that NFS mounted link -- and its V3? > > This is definitely not true by default with -CURRENT kernels, and I'd like > to know if it is with these changes in place. I can't yet reproduce your problem, so no. Could you give me a few more details? What blows up? Does the process fault or the kernel? If the kernel, where? Packet traces etc. would also be useful. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 01:53:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA03273 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA03268 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA24810 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:51:14 -0700 Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05356; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:50:31 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:50:31 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS comments In-Reply-To: <19970418203013.JK38912@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > As Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > So my NFS mounts to the Solaris boxes are using NFS V2 now then since my > > > box is running 2.2.1? > > > > Thats right. For 2.2.1, add 'nfsv3' to the options in /etc/fstab. > > Shouldn't this be `-3'? We deprecated the long forms of all options, > and it was decided to not even document them. I am not quite sure why since I wasn't around at the time. The long forms just seem more self descriptive to me and they don't look wierd in /etc/fstab. Also amd doesn't understand anything else. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 01:56:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA03432 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA03424 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA24002 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:48:14 -0700 Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05349; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:47:04 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:47:04 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Randy Terbush Cc: Thomas David Rivers , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (*my* problems found...yours?) NFS problems - it doesn't appear to be ep0. In-Reply-To: <199704190050.TAA22403@sierra.zyzzyva.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Randy Terbush wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Randy Terbush wrote: > > > > > > > > Since 2.2-GAMMA a new flag has been added to the sysctl. > > > By setting vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=0, NFS works fine. For some reason, > > > the NFS server is booting with vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=1. Can anyone > > > explain the use of this parameter? > > > > > > #> sysctl vfs > > > vfs.nfs.nfs_privport: 0 > > > vfs.nfs.async: 0 > > > vfs.nfs.defect: 0 > > > vfs.nfs.diskless_valid: 0 > > > vfs.nfs.diskless_rootpath: > > > vfs.nfs.diskless_swappath: > > > > This variable is set by mountd depending on whether or not you use the -n > > option to mountd. > > > > -- > > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 > > > I have a 2.2.1 box trying to mount another 2.2.1 box. I get the > following. In order to allow a mount, I need to change > vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=0. I am running 'mountd' _without_ a -n flag. How are you mounting the directory? If you are using mount_nfs, it should be using privileged ports by default. If amd, then you either need to add 'resvport' to the mount options in the amd map or change the server to allow non-privileged ports (which you have done). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 02:09:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA03967 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03959 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id JAA09740; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:08:48 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:08:48 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: Warner Losh cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Warner Losh wrote: > Greetings, > I have a PPro 180 machine that is currently building world in about > 5 hours +-. This time is from a "clean" state, not from a previously > built state. I've been told that it maybe possible to do this in 1:21. > > My question is: > How do I morph the machine I have into a faster build box? > > I have 64M memory, a SuperMicro 6SNS motherboard, 60ns memory, and one > SCSI disk (a Quantum Fireball 10.5ms 4500). A second disk (a jaz drive, > 12ms 5400) didn't seem to make the build faster or slower. The MB has > built in SCSI "2940UW". The fireball is the "ultra" version only. Did you put obj on the harddrive and the sources on the jaz? Try it if not. Mike Hancock From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 02:44:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA06296 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06291 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA18622; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:43:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sjx-ca35-05.ix.netcom.com(204.31.236.133) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018620; Sat Apr 19 04:43:34 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by blimp.mimi.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id CAA01401; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704190943.CAA01401@blimp.mimi.com> To: imp@village.org CC: current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Warner Losh on Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:16:41 -0600) Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As far as I know, the time for a make world (or any large compilation) is spend in (a) disk seeks and (b) CPU. Since people have already commented on your on-board controller and such, I'll just add a few points. * 3) Buy a faster disk, ultrawide scsi 7200 or faster disk. Get as many small and fast disks as you can. 7200 RPM 2GB disks would be great, not because they are 7200 RPM (you don't need sequential bandwidth for compilation) but because they seek faster than the 5400 or 4500 RPM drives. 2GB Atlas I's are selling around $500 now (if you can find them). Lay out your partitions carefully. Remember, having things on multiple disks won't help a bit if you have one process (cpp) waiting for random seeks all over the disk surface. Make your necessary partitions small, so for instance if you have two disks, lay them out like this: disk1 / swap /var /usr /usr/src /rest1 disk2 /(backup) swap /usr/obj /rest2 Put your home directories and stuff on /rest1 and /rest2, and make the other filesystems as small as possible. That way the head will have to seek only the first quarter of each disk (or something like that). That way you can also mount /usr/src and /usr/obj async without worrying too much. Also, if you can have multiple outstanding reads, you should be able to profit from the additional spindles. Does "make -j3 world" work now? * 4) Overclock the 180 to 200 or 233 (I have a good heat sink and fan) That will definitely help. When I went from 200 to 233, the make world time improved by 10%, even with nothing mounted async. Since your 180 -> 200 includes a memory/IO bus speedup, it is even nicer. * 5) Get a second scsi bus A single SCSI bus/controller can support a great number of random accesses. (But if your on-board controller is not on par with expansion slot counterparts, of course it will help.) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 02:48:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA06440 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06435 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24435; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:47:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:47:53 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD build failure in -current. In-Reply-To: <3158.861392852@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/afs_ops.c:44: > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../include/am.h:52: nfs_prot.h: No such file or directory > In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/am_ops.c:44: > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../include/am.h:52: nfs_prot.h: No such file or directory > In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/clock.c:55: > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../include/am.h:52: nfs_prot.h: No such file or directory Fixed. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 03:24:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA08008 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 03:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from originat.demon.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08002 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 03:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from paul@localhost) by originat.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA10058; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:27:32 +0100 (BST) To: Chris Timmons Cc: Warner Losh , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? References: From: Paul Richards Date: 19 Apr 1997 11:27:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: Chris Timmons's message of Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87lo6fs3xn.fsf@originat.demon.co.uk> Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Timmons writes: > My -current build machine at the moment is a pro200, 32mb of EDO and one > f/w disk on a 3940. With async /usr, CFLAGS -pipe -0, no eBones or secure > and NOMANCOMPRESS I was building in about 1:41 yesterday afternoon. Hmm, it can't be that i/o bound then. My P100, with 64Mb and a fast/wide Atlas on a 2940 takes 5 hours to do a make world. I do a bit more than you, I have CFLAGS= -O2 -m486 -pipe and I build the whole lot. If it was a strictly i/o bound process my P100 wouldn't do so badly since everything else is comparable or better than your PPro200. -- Dr Paul Richards, Originative Solutions Ltd. Internet: paul@originat.demon.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (UK Mobile) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 05:11:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA14235 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 05:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walkabout.asstdc.com.au (imb@walkabout.asstdc.com.au [202.12.127.73]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14212; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 05:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from imb@localhost) by walkabout.asstdc.com.au (8.8.5/BSD4.4) id WAA00702 Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:11:22 +1000 (EST) From: michael butler Message-Id: <199704191211.WAA00702@walkabout.asstdc.com.au> Subject: login broken ? To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:11:22 +1000 (EST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Comment: Phone 0419-240-180, International +61-419-240-180 X-Comment: finger imb@asstdc.com.au for PGP public key X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone else recompiled -stable (2.1.7.1) from the present cvsup sources and noticed that they can no longer telnet to it or is it just me ? Restoring 2.1.7 /usr/bin/login sources restores normal operation :-( michael From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 06:58:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA17405 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17399 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (karl@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id IAA02823; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.5/8.8.2) id IAA08422; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970419085821.10580@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:58:21 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: Doug Rabson Cc: Karl Denninger , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson References: <19970418124839.37391@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Sat, Apr 19, 1997 at 09:22:17AM +0100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Apr 19, 1997 at 09:22:17AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 1997 at 05:27:35PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > I have changed both mount_nfs and amd to use NFSv3 in preference to v2 if > > > it is supported by the server. This means that machines which have been > > > using v2 by default will now start using the v3 protocol. I believe that > > > the v3 support in current is stable enough to make it the default but no > > > doubt someone will prove me wrong. > > > > > > To revert to the old behaviour, add the nfsv2 option to either /etc/fstab > > > for static mounts or to the amd map defaults for automounts. This will > > > force the use of the older protocol. > > > > > > -- > > > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > > > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 > > > > > > > Are you saying that if I'm running a -CURRENT client I can mount a > > filesystem over NFS and the system will NOT blow up if I execute something > > over that NFS mounted link -- and its V3? > > > > This is definitely not true by default with -CURRENT kernels, and I'd like > > to know if it is with these changes in place. > > I can't yet reproduce your problem, so no. Could you give me a few more > details? What blows up? Does the process fault or the kernel? If the > kernel, where? Packet traces etc. would also be useful. > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 It is not NFS specific. Try running a web server on -CURRENT using httpd 1.5.2. The kernel will blow chunks within minutes with a "page not present" fault. This is true whether the executable is on a LOCAL disk or over NFS. The -CURRENT kernel is NOT stable in this sort of environment. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, http://www.mcs.net/ Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| NOW Serving 56kbps DIGITAL on our analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 07:31:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA18778 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18773 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01065; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:31:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:31:09 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Karl Denninger cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson In-Reply-To: <19970419085821.10580@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Karl Denninger wrote: > > It is not NFS specific. > > Try running a web server on -CURRENT using httpd 1.5.2. > > The kernel will blow chunks within minutes with a "page not present" fault. > > This is true whether the executable is on a LOCAL disk or over NFS. > > The -CURRENT kernel is NOT stable in this sort of environment. In that case, none of my NFS fixes will even come close. I assume you are working closely with John and David to diagnose this? -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 07:32:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA18865 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18860 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (karl@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA03753; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:32:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.5/8.8.2) id JAA09350; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:32:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970419093254.63764@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:32:54 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: Doug Rabson Cc: Karl Denninger , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson References: <19970419085821.10580@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Sat, Apr 19, 1997 at 03:31:09PM +0100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Apr 19, 1997 at 03:31:09PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > It is not NFS specific. > > > > Try running a web server on -CURRENT using httpd 1.5.2. > > > > The kernel will blow chunks within minutes with a "page not present" fault. > > > > This is true whether the executable is on a LOCAL disk or over NFS. > > > > The -CURRENT kernel is NOT stable in this sort of environment. > > In that case, none of my NFS fixes will even come close. I assume you are > working closely with John and David to diagnose this? > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 John has a core dump and kernel file showing the problem. David has not yet contacted me. Can you delineate the NFS fixes and what they are expected to correct? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, http://www.mcs.net/ Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| NOW Serving 56kbps DIGITAL on our analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 07:41:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA19463 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19455 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01107; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:40:58 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:40:58 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Karl Denninger cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson In-Reply-To: <19970419093254.63764@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Karl Denninger wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 1997 at 03:31:09PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > > > > It is not NFS specific. > > > > > > Try running a web server on -CURRENT using httpd 1.5.2. > > > > > > The kernel will blow chunks within minutes with a "page not present" fault. > > > > > > This is true whether the executable is on a LOCAL disk or over NFS. > > > > > > The -CURRENT kernel is NOT stable in this sort of environment. > > > > In that case, none of my NFS fixes will even come close. I assume you are > > working closely with John and David to diagnose this? > > > > -- > > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 > > John has a core dump and kernel file showing the problem. > > David has not yet contacted me. > > Can you delineate the NFS fixes and what they are expected to correct? Most recently, I fixed some race conditions when vnodes were recycled from NFS to UFS. These showed up as panics when nfs_inactive ended up calling ufs_unlock. I also fixed a couple of problems with faults and odd behaviour for programs writing lots of small blocks over NFS. Your venerable log file problem where many processes are appending to the same log file is (probably) not fixed. I may work on that one soon. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 08:36:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22559 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22544 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id IAA10206; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20413; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704191535.IAA20413@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol cc: Warner Losh , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 18 Apr 97 22:47:44 -0700. <199704190547.WAA17328@MindBender.serv.net> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:35:41 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>Also, what is the 1:21 number really? >I'm at least one of the people who claimed a 1:21 time. Here's what I >did... [lots of stuff deleted...] >All my binaries, including the kernel, had been built previously with >these flags (under gcc 2.7.2): -O6 -m486 -pipe -fno-strength-reduce. >I also did the test build with the same flags. The object directory Almost forgot, I also had this set before building: setenv MAKEFLAGS '-j4' [lots more stuff deleted...] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 08:43:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA23032 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23027 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id KAA27381; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:42:16 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199704191542.KAA27381@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-Reply-To: <199704190547.WAA17328@MindBender.serv.net> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at "Apr 18, 97 10:47:44 pm" To: michaelv@MindBender.serv.net (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:42:16 -0500 (EST) Cc: imp@village.org, current@freebsd.org Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >Can those that have tweaked for this sort of thing help me out here? I'm > >running -current as of April 17 (ctm cvs-cur 3222). > >Also, what is the 1:21 number really? > > I'm at least one of the people who claimed a 1:21 time. Here's what I > did... > FWIW, I just did a "make world" to find out how long it would take on FreeBSD, which includes Perl, TCL, building the entire directory tree from scratch (the entire FBSD environment). My machine is a P6DNE (with one proc) 256K, 233 MHz, 80MB Ram (part of it is EDO.) The target disk is a slow 5400 SCSI drive, the build drives (src/obj) are IDE. The OS is FreeBSD-current EXACTLY as in the tree as of the beginning time of the build. The 86% CPU really bugs me. Does anyone know if our make -j X works on the FreeBSD-current build? Also, I haven't re-committed our vfork improvement yet, but I can't see that would make more than a few second difference at most. CFLAGS= -O -malign-loops=0 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -pipe -------------------------------------------------------------- make world completed on Sat Apr 19 09:43:01 EST 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- 3759.46user 1030.03system 1:32:06elapsed 86%CPU (6250avgtext+7771avgdata 30512maxresident)k 45491inputs+25455outputs (9883major+10179890minor)pagefaults 0swaps John From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 11:30:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00521 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heli-fishing.eos.ncsu.edu (heli-fishing.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.68.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00515 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from camattin@localhost) by heli-fishing.eos.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC02Jan97) id SAA41724; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:28:57 GMT Message-Id: <199704191828.SAA41724@heli-fishing.eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? To: paul@originat.demon.co.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu (Chris Timmons), imp@village.org (Warner Losh), current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <87lo6fs3xn.fsf@originat.demon.co.uk> from "Paul Richards" at Apr 19, 1997 11:27:32 AM From: camattin@ncsu.edu (Chris A. Mattingly) Reply-To: camattin@ncsu.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0b1/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul Richards wrote the following about "Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box?" on Sat Apr 19 06:27:32 1997 > > Chris Timmons writes: > > > My -current build machine at the moment is a pro200, 32mb of EDO and one > > f/w disk on a 3940. With async /usr, CFLAGS -pipe -0, no eBones or secure > > and NOMANCOMPRESS I was building in about 1:41 yesterday afternoon. > > Hmm, it can't be that i/o bound then. > > My P100, with 64Mb and a fast/wide Atlas on a 2940 takes 5 hours to do > a make world. > > I do a bit more than you, I have > CFLAGS= -O2 -m486 -pipe > > and I build the whole lot. If it was a strictly i/o bound process my > P100 wouldn't do so badly since everything else is comparable or > better than your PPro200. FYI, I have a P133, 2940, SEAGATE ST32151N, 64 Megs EDO, and a make world took 4:18:37 .. this included compressing the man pages, eBones, etc, and also cleaning out my last build. -Chris -- Chris Mattingly | My views are not necessarily those of my employers camattin@ncsu.edu | NC State University/ITECS | "Good programmers write good code; great Systems Programmer | programmers 'borrow' good code." -- Mike Gancarz From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 13:26:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07712 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07706 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03263; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704192025.NAA03263@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: camattin@ncsu.edu cc: paul@originat.demon.co.uk (Paul Richards), skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu (Chris Timmons), imp@village.org (Warner Losh), current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:28:56 EDT." <199704191828.SAA41724@heli-fishing.eos.ncsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:25:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One of the first things that I would is to check the system BIOS and make sure that the PCI settings are set for optimal performance. Next check the speed of the disks with something like iozone. Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 13:52:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09534 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA09527 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0wIh7e-0007NB-00; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:52:38 -0600 To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? Cc: current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:25:20 PDT." <199704192025.NAA03263@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199704192025.NAA03263@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:52:37 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199704192025.NAA03263@rah.star-gate.com> Amancio Hasty writes: : One of the first things that I would is to check the system BIOS and : make sure that the PCI settings are set for optimal performance. They seem to be. : Next check the speed of the disks with something like iozone. IOZONE tells me: JAZ: 1.5MB/s write, 5.2MB/s read Fireball: 1.4MB/s write, 2.7MB/s read Disks are both 4500 rpm. The JAZ is 12ms seek and the Fireball is 10.5ms seek time. These disks could easily be much faster :-) However, async, noatime mounting seems to be about the best thing I can do for the build. I have about a half dozen builds done now, and want to do one or two more. I'll post the summary when I finish. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 14:12:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11367 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11305 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03728; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704192111.OAA03728@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Warner Losh cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:52:37 MDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:11:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The disks don't seem to be running that fast. Post the disk geometry and probably someone one the list will be able to help you set it up. I get this with my 5400 quantum disk drive 16 8192 3273603 74051160 The read value is because of caching. You may want to post your disklabel info: setenv EDITOR emacs disklabel -e -r /dev/rsd0 then save the geometry to a file or if you are running X just cut and paste. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Warner Losh : > In message <199704192025.NAA03263@rah.star-gate.com> Amancio Hasty writes: > : One of the first things that I would is to check the system BIOS and > : make sure that the PCI settings are set for optimal performance. > > They seem to be. > > : Next check the speed of the disks with something like iozone. > > IOZONE tells me: > > JAZ: 1.5MB/s write, 5.2MB/s read > Fireball: 1.4MB/s write, 2.7MB/s read > > Disks are both 4500 rpm. The JAZ is 12ms seek and the Fireball is > 10.5ms seek time. > > These disks could easily be much faster :-) However, async, noatime > mounting seems to be about the best thing I can do for the build. I > have about a half dozen builds done now, and want to do one or two > more. I'll post the summary when I finish. > > Warner From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 14:50:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16421 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16410 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0wIi1I-0007Qw-00; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:50:08 -0600 To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? Cc: current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:11:56 PDT." <199704192111.OAA03728@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199704192111.OAA03728@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:50:08 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199704192111.OAA03728@rah.star-gate.com> Amancio Hasty writes: : The disks don't seem to be running that fast. Post the disk geometry : and probably someone one the list will be able to help you set it up. : : I get this with my 5400 quantum disk drive : 16 8192 3273603 74051160 I get about 1/2 of that on write. But this is on a Quantum 4500 rpm disk. And not a very good one from others have been saying. The jaz drive benchmarks faster :-) : The read value is because of caching. I get about 86M for read caching. I'm very happy with that :-). : You may want to post your disklabel info: : setenv EDITOR emacs : disklabel -e -r /dev/rsd0 : then save the geometry to a file or if you are running X just cut : and paste. disklabel -r sd1 > xxx is faster, since emacs isn't needed :-). I know that I have the geometry setup right. I spent a great deal of time doing it by hand since sysinstall couldn't cope (it was for 2.1.6, which may be why) and disklabel sd1 auto failed :-(. All partitions are on cyl boundries. newfs has been told the correct (rather than the default) cyl sizes, etc. I'm almost positive that I set that up right. Besides, the IOZONE numbers were on the raw paritions before I newfs them.... Here's what I have, none the less: type: unknown disk: label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 56 tracks/cylinder: 5 sectors/cylinder: 280 cylinders: 22435 sectors/unit: 6281856 rpm: 4500 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 131040 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 467) b: 262080 131040 swap # (Cyl. 468 - 1403) c: 6281856 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 22435*) e: 131040 393120 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 1404 - 1871) f: 409360 524160 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 1872 - 3333) g: 614320 933520 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 3334 - 5527) h: 4733960 1547840 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 5528 - 22434) [[ Again note that I set bps/cpg manually, and am using 8k/1k file system ]] bps/cpg was set to 5*56. Is that too small? Warner P.S. Overclocking from 180 to 200 (bus speed increased from 66 to 66, but still running CPU at 3x) results are in: 180 2:34 200 2:21 or 8% faster. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 16:27:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22643 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gbdata.com (USR1-1.detnet.com [207.113.12.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22625 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02091 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:27:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199704192327.SAA02091@main.gbdata.com> Subject: Opps.. problem with 04-19-97 kernel... To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:27:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have finally upgraded my kernel from pre-lite stage and have ran into a "small" problem. The kernel is a 0030 CDT 19APR97 sup. Problems: Reboots. No panic, no dump NOTHING. The system can be doing nothing or a big compile, it does not matter. Any ideas? -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups - http://WWW.GBData.com for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/FAQ.latin1 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 17:21:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24574 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lamb.sas.com (uucp@lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24569 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA09895; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:21:28 -0400 Received: from iluvatar.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA21280; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:21:07 -0400 Received: by iluvatar.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA27197; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:21:06 -0400 From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199704200021.AA27197@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Subject: Install locks on HP Vectra XU To: current@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:21:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've attempted to install from both the 2.2.1-RELEASE and 3.0-CURRENT boot floppies. The boot process locks up with the cursor in the lower left corner of the screen just before the 1st screen would appear. A boot floppy from 2.1.5 seems to work. The machine is an HP Vectra XU Pentium @ 133Mhz, 96Meg. Since all the components required to boot the machine are available via the pci bus, I've disabled all the drivers that are not needed, but this has no effect. If anyone has any clues, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, John -- jwd@unx.sas.com (w) John W. De Boskey (919) 677-8000 x6915 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 19:26:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28721 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeppelin.net (obiwan@zeppelin.net [206.170.177.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28713 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obiwan@localhost) by zeppelin.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06119 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1-beta [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199704192327.SAA02091@main.gbdata.com> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:25:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Howard To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Opps.. problem with 04-19-97 kernel... Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been having the problem off and on for the last few weeks, I was wondering if I was the only one, but apparently not. I can't seem to stay up for more than a few days (I found I was was rebooted when I woke up this morning actually). Hard to provide much info to help since as he points out it doesn't leave much of a trace and has no other `dependencies' like load. On 19-Apr-97 Gary Clark II wrote: >Hello, > >I have finally upgraded my kernel from pre-lite stage and have ran into a >"small" problem. > >The kernel is a 0030 CDT 19APR97 sup. >Problems: >Reboots. No panic, no dump NOTHING. The system can be doing nothing or >a big compile, it does not matter. > >Any ideas? > >-- >Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company >gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team > Providing Internet and ISP startups - http://WWW.GBData.com for information > FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/FAQ.latin1 --- Josh Howard "What do you give a man who has everything?" the pretty teenager asked her mother. "Encouragement, dear," she replied. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 20:06:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29958 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp01-58.zyzzyva.com [208.214.58.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29951 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA09161; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:09:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704200309.WAA09161@sierra.zyzzyva.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Doug Rabson cc: Randy Terbush , Thomas David Rivers , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (*my* problems found...yours?) NFS problems - it doesn't appear to be ep0. In-reply-to: dfr's message of Sat, 19 Apr 1997 09:47:04 +0100. X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:09:29 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm mounting with the following entry in /etc/fstab srcserv:/var /nfs/srcserv/var nfs nfsv3,rw,bg 0 0 > > > > I have a 2.2.1 box trying to mount another 2.2.1 box. I get the > > following. In order to allow a mount, I need to change > > vfs.nfs.nfs_privport=0. I am running 'mountd' _without_ a -n flag. > > How are you mounting the directory? If you are using mount_nfs, it should > be using privileged ports by default. If amd, then you either need to add > 'resvport' to the mount options in the amd map or change the server to > allow non-privileged ports (which you have done). > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 21:22:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA03035 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 21:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03026; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 21:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA26024; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:20:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sjx-ca35-05.ix.netcom.com(204.31.236.133) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018526; Sat Apr 19 21:19:46 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by blimp.mimi.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA02585; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704200219.TAA02585@blimp.mimi.com> To: se@freebsd.org CC: james@nexis.net, jkh@time.cdrom.com, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19970418191435.61194@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> (message from Stefan Esser on Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:14:35 +0200) Subject: Re: NCR 53c875 support broken in 2.2.1. From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * While I would not buy a Grand-Prix myself, the driver * does in fact support it for some two years, already. Ok. Thanks for the followup, and sorry for posting such old news. ;) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 22:56:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA06417 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA06412 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA02221; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704200556.XAA02221@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "John W. DeBoskey" Cc: current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install locks on HP Vectra XU In-Reply-To: <199704200021.AA27197@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> References: <199704200021.AA27197@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.27 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've attempted to install from both the 2.2.1-RELEASE and > 3.0-CURRENT boot floppies. The boot process locks up with the > cursor in the lower left corner of the screen just before the > 1st screen would appear. Set the npx0 flags to 0x1, which is the default now on the 2.2 branch. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 23:06:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06841 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (taob@tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06832; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (taob@localhost) by tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA21154; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:04:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao Reply-To: Brian Tao To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: "Data overrun" with 3.0-SNAP, 2940UW controllers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm stress testing a new NFS server with 2.0-970209-SNAP to see how it deals with having a couple of Adaptec 2940UW controllers. About half an hour into the tests, the machine appears to have crashed (no response to pings), and I don't have physical access to the machine right now. :( The system is a P200 with two 2940UW's and a Buslogic BT-946C with no devices attached to it (it will be dedicated to a DLT drive in the future). The first Adaptec has four 4GB Seagate ST34371W's and the second has three. The first is a boot drive and the remaining six are striped together (alternating controllers) into ccd0. The tests consist of four scripts: replicate the entire FreeBSD source tree into a new directory and then delete it, touch 10000 randomly named files in a directory and delete them, dd /dev/zero into files with random block sizes, and run bonnie. Five copies of each script are run concurrently. Only three of the drives are shown here, but the others have identical stats: % iostat -w5 sd1 sd2 sd3 tty sd1 sd2 sd3 cpu tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id 0 19 192 7 0.0 193 8 0.0 192 7 0.0 1 0 3 0 96 0 25 4359 159 0.0 4332 157 0.0 4470 159 0.0 1 0 65 6 28 0 25 4525 155 0.0 4601 159 0.0 4414 151 0.0 1 0 66 5 28 0 25 4450 159 0.0 4378 157 0.0 4492 158 0.0 1 0 63 6 29 0 25 4825 183 0.0 4681 181 0.0 4690 177 0.0 1 0 70 7 23 0 25 4521 173 0.0 4529 174 0.0 4622 174 0.0 0 0 73 6 20 0 43 4664 180 0.0 4890 191 0.0 4547 175 0.0 0 0 66 7 27 0 25 4246 152 0.0 4207 154 0.0 4484 161 0.0 1 0 67 5 27 0 25 4204 157 0.0 4279 159 0.0 3955 147 0.0 2 0 59 6 34 0 25 4596 174 0.0 4584 179 0.0 4611 176 0.0 0 0 73 6 21 0 25 4454 158 0.0 4490 160 0.0 4497 160 0.0 0 0 66 6 28 These messages started showing up in the syslog during the tests. I tried running with /dev/ccd0c sync and async: the messages appeared for both. No other syslog messages were logged other than ones produced purposely by the scripts themselves to track their progress. Is there anything I can do to correct this problem (which I believe is related to the crash)? I'm going to try a pre-2.2 release as most people have suggested to see if that fixes the problems. dmesg output is included below as well. % fgrep 'data overrun' /var/log/messages Apr 19 23:22:51 nfs /kernel: sd5: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:22:53 nfs /kernel: sd4: data overrun of 4068 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:24:49 nfs /kernel: sd6: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:24:53 nfs /kernel: sd2: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:24:58 nfs /kernel: sd6: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:25:18 nfs /kernel: sd5: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:26:02 nfs /kernel: sd1: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:26:57 nfs /kernel: sd1: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:27:22 nfs /kernel: sd3: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:27:50 nfs /kernel: sd5: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:28:12 nfs /kernel: sd6: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:29:02 nfs /kernel: sd2: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:30:00 nfs /kernel: sd3: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:30:18 nfs /kernel: sd4: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:30:51 nfs /kernel: sd5: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:31:19 nfs /kernel: sd4: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:31:26 nfs /kernel: sd6: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:32:01 nfs /kernel: sd4: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:33:30 nfs /kernel: sd2: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. [...] Apr 19 23:35:28 nfs /kernel: sd2: data overrun of 497 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. Apr 19 23:35:29 nfs /kernel: sd2: data overrun of 484 bytes detected. Forcing a retry. FreeBSD 3.0-970209-SNAP #0: Sat Apr 19 16:08:33 EDT 1997 root@nfs:/usr/depot/src/sys/compile/NFS Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock ... i586 clock: 199426620 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193152 Hz CPU: Pentium (199.43-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 129490944 (126456K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 5 on pci0:13:0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 4148MB (8496884 512 byte sectors) sd1 at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 4148MB (8496884 512 byte sectors) sd2 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 sd2: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2: Direct-Access 4148MB (8496884 512 byte sectors) sd3 at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 sd3: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3: Direct-Access 4148MB (8496884 512 byte sectors) ahc1 rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:14:0 ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc1: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0 sd4 at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 sd4: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd4: Direct-Access 4148MB (8496884 512 byte sectors) sd5 at scbus1 target 2 lun 0 sd5: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd5: Direct-Access 4148MB (8496884 512 byte sectors) sd6 at scbus1 target 3 lun 0 sd6: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd6: Direct-Access 4148MB (8496960 512 byte sectors) bt0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:15:0 bt0: Bt946C/ 0-(32bit) bus bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=11 bt0: version 4.28D, async only, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs bt0: Using Strict Round robin scheme bt0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus2 at bt0 bus 0 de0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:16:0 de0: SMC 9332 21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.2 de0: address 00:00:c0:99:00:e6 de0: enabling 100baseTX port Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 not found at 0x2f8 lpt0 not found at 0xffffffff fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in bt: unit number (1) too high bt1 not found at 0x330 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 23:25:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07471 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07421 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA12751; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 16:15:27 +1000 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 16:15:27 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199704200615.QAA12751@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, imp@village.org Subject: Re: Speed deamons: How to build a build box? Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >: Next check the speed of the disks with something like iozone. > >IOZONE tells me: > >JAZ: 1.5MB/s write, 5.2MB/s read >Fireball: 1.4MB/s write, 2.7MB/s read Are the file systems equivalently fragmented? If not, perhaps you need to upgrade to an IDE Fireball :->. FireballTM's should have an iozone speed of about 5 MB/s for both read and write. I get 4.98 MB/s write and 4.67 MB/s read for `iozone 512 8' for an IDE FireballTM2110A with a 1/10-full partition at offset 649152, size 2951424 sectors. >Disks are both 4500 rpm. The JAZ is 12ms seek and the Fireball is >10.5ms seek time. Seek time is not the greatest, but iozone seek much. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sat Apr 19 23:53:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08408 for current-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.uniserve.com (mercury.uniserve.com [204.191.197.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08401 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (shell.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by mercury.uniserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA04673; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:58:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Brian Tao cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Data overrun" with 3.0-SNAP, 2940UW controllers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 20 Apr 1997, Brian Tao wrote: > I'm stress testing a new NFS server with 2.0-970209-SNAP to see > how it deals with having a couple of Adaptec 2940UW controllers. > About half an hour into the tests, the machine appears to have crashed > (no response to pings), and I don't have physical access to the > machine right now. :( 3.0-970209? The ahc driver has had major bugs fixed since then. This has been reported on this list many times. In fact, see the archives in regards to the similar problems that I had with the dual-channal 3940UW controllor. Tom