From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 31 21:47:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA06340 for doc-outgoing; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huron.nvl.Virginia.EDU (mail.nvl.Virginia.EDU [128.143.244.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA06333 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from virginia.edu (lorax.nvl.Virginia.EDU) by huron.nvl.Virginia.EDU with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA003999268; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 00:47:48 -0400 Message-Id: <340A48F1.EECE8DC3@virginia.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 00:47:46 -0400 From: Adrian Organization: University of Virginia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: alt="" for images Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I don't mean to gipe. I think you are doing a wonderful job on the FreeBSD pages. I really like the new look. I just wanted to mention that you really should include the ALT="" attibutes on the IMG tags. A lot of people don't load images automatically. The page is very hard to navigate without images presently. This is even more important to lynx users. Don't forget that lynx is the default browser under FreeBSD. Keerp up the good work! Adrian -- adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| Support your local programmer, http://uvacs.cs.virginia.edu/~atf3r/ --->>>| STOP Software Patent Abuses NOW! Member: The League for -->>| info at ftp.uu.net:/doc/lpf, print Programming Freedom ->| "join.ps.Z" for an application From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 31 22:00:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA06704 for doc-outgoing; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 22:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mph124.rh.psu.edu (hunt@MPH124.rh.psu.edu [128.118.126.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA06699 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 22:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hunt@localhost) by mph124.rh.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA05618; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 00:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970901005931.58404@mph124.rh.psu.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 00:59:31 -0400 From: Matthew Hunt To: Adrian Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alt="" for images Reply-To: Matthew Hunt References: <340A48F1.EECE8DC3@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <340A48F1.EECE8DC3@virginia.edu>; from Adrian on Mon, Sep 01, 1997 at 12:47:46AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Sep 01, 1997 at 12:47:46AM -0400, Adrian wrote: > users. Don't forget that lynx is the default browser under FreeBSD. I don't mean to dilute your point, because I agree with it. ALT tags should be provided whenever sensible, and Lynx should be supported, etc. But Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, etc. are all in the Ports Collection, and not included with the base system. So I can't agree that Lynx is the "default browser". Maybe we should say that "fetch" is the default browser for FreeBSD? -- Matthew Hunt * Think locally, act globally. finger hunt@mph124.rh.psu.edu for PGP public key. From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 1 02:58:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA17546 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 02:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hwcn.org (main.hwcn.org [199.212.94.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA17531 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 02:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hwcn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA14693; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 05:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA15939; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 05:59:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 05:59:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: ac199@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca Reply-To: hoek@hwcn.org To: Matthew Hunt cc: Adrian , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alt="" for images In-Reply-To: <19970901005931.58404@mph124.rh.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Matthew Hunt wrote: > But Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, etc. are all in the Ports Collection, > and not included with the base system. So I can't agree that Lynx > is the "default browser". I seem to remember that sysinstall has a special place for Lynx in its heart and expects you to install it. Run it, goto 2), Doc, then 7) HTML docs, and then it will try to install Lynx (not Mosaic or Netscape :). -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 1 08:52:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA04739 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 08:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mph124.rh.psu.edu (hunt@MPH124.rh.psu.edu [128.118.126.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA04734 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 08:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hunt@localhost) by mph124.rh.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA21853; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970901115234.41042@mph124.rh.psu.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:52:34 -0400 From: Matthew Hunt To: hoek@hwcn.org Cc: Adrian , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alt="" for images Reply-To: Matthew Hunt References: <19970901005931.58404@mph124.rh.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: ; from Tim Vanderhoek on Mon, Sep 01, 1997 at 05:59:13AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Sep 01, 1997 at 05:59:13AM -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > I seem to remember that sysinstall has a special place for Lynx > in its heart and expects you to install it. Run it, goto 2), > Doc, then 7) HTML docs, and then it will try to install Lynx (not > Mosaic or Netscape :). Ah, I heeded the many warnings about sysinstall, and didn't let it install any additional packages. Mea culpa. -- Matthew Hunt * Think locally, act globally. finger hunt@mph124.rh.psu.edu for PGP public key. From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 2 01:21:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA24414 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 01:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA24409; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 01:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postbox.india.hp.com (postbox.india.hp.com [15.10.45.1]) by palrel3.hp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05142; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 01:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709020820.BAA05142@palrel3.hp.com> Received: from localhost by postbox.india.hp.com with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA086698265; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:47:45 +0530 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: jfieber@freebsd.org Subject: Docbook tools? Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 13:47:45 +0530 From: A Joseph Koshy Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks, What is the current state of the Docbook tools? The `instant' based transpec for docbook is ok, but not quite complete. I've noticed that some elements in the DocBook Dtd aren't at all handled; anything under for example. Changing the instant transpec is not for the faint of heart :(. What is the status of the DSSSL based tools (jade et al), is there any way of using Jade to convert Docbook to HTML,TeX or *roff? Thanks, Koshy My Personal Opinions Only. From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 2 03:02:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA28312 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 03:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [193.117.77.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA28301; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 03:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA01501; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:59:50 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA00470; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:05:19 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19970902110518.05385@strand.iii.co.uk> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:05:18 +0100 From: nik@iii.co.uk To: A Joseph Koshy Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, jfieber@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Docbook tools? References: <199709020820.BAA05142@palrel3.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76e In-Reply-To: <199709020820.BAA05142@palrel3.hp.com>; from A Joseph Koshy on Tue, Sep 02, 1997 at 01:47:45PM +0530 Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Not speaking for doc@freebsd.org] On Tue, Sep 02, 1997 at 01:47:45PM +0530, A Joseph Koshy wrote: > What is the current state of the Docbook tools? The `instant' based > transpec for docbook is ok, but not quite complete. I've noticed > that some elements in the DocBook Dtd aren't at all handled; > anything under for example. Changing the instant transpec > is not for the faint of heart :(. Agreed. > What is the status of the DSSSL based tools (jade et al), is there any > way of using Jade to convert Docbook to HTML,TeX or *roff? Yep. Make sure you've got the relevant parts of ports/textproc installed, specifically, 'jade', 'iso8879', 'docbook', 'sgmlformat' and 'linuxdoc'. The dependencies are such that you should just be able to install 'sgmlformat' and it will suck down the rest for you. Then make sure your SGML_CATALOG_FILES environment variable is set correctly; I use the following in ~/.tcshrc, YMMV: # SGML catalogs setenv SGML_ROOT /usr/local/share/sgml setenv SGML_CATALOG_FILES ${SGML_ROOT}/docbook/3.0/catalog setenv SGML_CATALOG_FILES ${SGML_CATALOG_FILES}:${SGML_ROOT}/iso8879/catalog setenv SGML_CATALOG_FILES ${SGML_CATALOG_FILES}:${SGML_ROOT}/jade/catalog Now you need some DSSSL stylesheets to do the conversion. You've got a couple of choices. At this point, it's simpler for me to quote one of John Fieber's earlier messages: [Quoting from Written on Sat, 26 Jul 1997 18:23:53 -0500 (EST) With the subject: DSSSL stylsheets for docbook.] > However, using jade's HTML output isn't that useful at this point > because it depends heavily on robust CSS support in the browser, > which doesn't really exist now. > > The other approach to generating HTML with DSSSL is to use the > transformation language part of the DSSSL standard, since docbook > to HTML is effectively a transformation from one DTD to another. > Alas, jade does not yet support the transformation language. As > a stopgap measure, jade supports some non-standard flow objects > that can be used in conjunction with the "-t sgml" output format > that can be used for generating HTML. > > I've put a snapshot of my docbook stylsheets--one for print > output and one for HTML output--up at > ftp://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/pub/sgml/stylesheet-0.1.tar.gz. > Brief instructions are included. > > Jon Bosak's docbook stylsheet (db070) has been adopted by Norm > Walsh and can be found in its latest incarnation at > http://www.berkshire.net/~norm/dsssl/. Both Norm's stylsheet and > my stylsheets are definately incomplete, although the areas of > incompleteness differ. I've been focusing mostly on the HTML > generation and the features needed to get the handbook moved from > linuxdoc to Docbook. It may ultimately be more practical to drop > my print stylsheet in favor of Norm's. If you've downloaded these, you can then construct a Makefile to do the conversion for you. I use a variant on the following: # Progam locations SGMLS=/usr/local/bin/nsgmls INSTANT=/usr/local/bin/instant JADE=/usr/local/bin/jade SGMLDIR=/usr/local/share/sgml # File locations # Where to find docbook.dcl, relative to SGMLDIR DCL=/docbook/3.0/docbook.dcl # Where my DocBook to HTML stylesheet is kept. I've downloaded it from # Norm Walsh's page, and store it in my home directory. DB_DSL=/export/home/nik/sgml/dsssl/db-current/docbook.dsl # HTML transpec for instant, relative to SGMLDIR HTML-TS=/transpec/docbook-html.ts # Suffix rules. .SUFFIXES: .sgml .html .rtf # Convert from SGML to HTML. Use sgmls and instant. .sgml.html: $(SGMLS) $(SGMLDIR)$(DCL) ${@:R}.sgml | $(INSTANT) \ -t $(SGMLDIR)$(HTML-TS) > $@ # Convert from SGML to RTF .sgml.rtf: $(JADE) -d $(DB_DSL) -t rtf ${@:R}.sgml # Convert from SGML to HTML. Use jade. This will produce the multi-page # format, which I don't particularly like. So it's commented out #.sgml.html: # $(JADE) -d $(DB_DSL) -t sgml ${@:R}.sgml # List the targets you want to generate here # # Assume the source file is foo.sgml ALL= foo.html foo.rtf # List of files to remove on 'make clean' CLEANFILES+=$(ALL) # Default target all: $(ALL) # Random system magic .include Hopefully that's self explanatory. Remember, you can't cut and paste that, since you'll lose the embedded TABs. FWIW, if you use [X]emacs, you also have access to the rather wonderful psgml-mode, which makes editing SGML files much, much easier. As to the actual state of the tools and the stylesheets: I've only really experimented with Norm Walsh's stuff. The RTF generation is fine, albeit slightly buggy. It has a tendency to include blank pages in the output, and the automatic table of contents generation is a little screwy. But for alpha/beta software it works very well. I don't use the HTML generation, since it takes a DocBook and turns it into multiple HTML files. I prefer the single file approach of instant, hence the hybrid approach above. Hope that's useful. N -- --+==[ Nik Clayton is Just Another Perl Hacker at Interactive Investor ]==+-- Diana, the roadkill formally known as Princess, 1961-1997 NC5-RIPE From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 2 04:53:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA02293 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 04:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.mew.co.jp (gate.mew.co.jp [133.254.5.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA02283 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 04:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [133.254.19.138] by gate.mew.co.jp via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 2 Sep 1997 11:53:31 UT Received: from racerx.ai.mew.co.jp (racerx.ai.mew.co.jp [133.254.19.25]) by yesod.ai.mew.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W4) with SMTP id UAA26327 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:46:18 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:46:18 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199709021146.UAA26327@yesod.ai.mew.co.jp> X-Sender: tomio@133.254.19.138 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2Jr2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Steve Madsen Subject: Link misalignment Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There's a problem with the FreeBSD web site. For example, from http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html, if I click on the link... 7.1 I'd like to customize my kernel. Is it difficult? ...instead of going to 7.1, I instead go to the answer for question 9.6!! (There are many such misaligned links) I'm sure these problems are due to updating the site, but thought I should let you know just in case... Thanks, Steven J. Madsen, Research Engineer $B%^%I%;%s!&%9%F%#!<%t(J Virtual Reality R&D Group, I.S. Center 4F $B#V#R3+H/<>2 Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA17154 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17149 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA06480; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 12:17:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 12:17:19 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: nik@iii.co.uk cc: A Joseph Koshy , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Docbook tools? In-Reply-To: <19970902110518.05385@strand.iii.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Sep 1997 nik@iii.co.uk wrote: > I don't use the HTML generation, since it takes a DocBook and turns > it into multiple HTML files. I prefer the single file approach of instant, > hence the hybrid approach above. My HTML stylsheet assums that a is actually a book-length thing and divides on chapters. The FreeBSD handbook as a single HTML file is nearly a megabyte an not much fun to manipulate in your typical browser. For shorter things, use
... ...
which will generate a single file for the main text. Unfortunately this approach doesn't work if you want to use sgmlfmt as the transpecs don't correctly handle articles. -john From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 2 11:45:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA20690 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20679 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.184.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.7/(97/08/22 5.5)) id OAA20977; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:45:16 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from zcollier.cncx.com ([206.173.228.115]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.8.7) id OAA13559; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <340C5E91.AB1DCBE4@concentric.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 11:44:33 -0700 From: Zander Collier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: qvwm docs X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are there any qvwm docs in English available? I've installed it, and gotten it to run, now I don't know where to proceed. I don't even know how to exit it! Thanks, -Zander Collier From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 3 15:18:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA11797 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms1.accmail.com.tw ([210.67.151.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA11786 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hntp1.hinet.net ([139.175.144.60]) by AccSMTP Gateway for AccMail (v4.00.02/k3.10) [210.67.151.201]; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 04:58:43 +0800 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: j5339881@ms1.accmail.com.tw Subject: EMAIL¦W³æ24¸Uµ§ 05:06:15 AM Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=BIG5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ¦pªG±zªº¥Í¬¡°é»P°Ó·~µLÃö ½Ðª½±µ§R°£¥»«H ¥»¤H¨Ã¬°¥»«H¥ó±aµ¹±zªº§xÂZ­Pºp §Ú¦¬¶°¤F°ê¤º¦U¤jisp¤§ªñ¨â­Ó¤ëemail¦W³æ¦@24¸Uµ§ ¬Û«H¹ï¥ô¦ó»Ý­n¥H·¥¤Ö¤§¸êª÷ ©Ý®i·~°È ¶}®i°Ó¾÷¤§¤½¥q¦æ¸¹ ·¥¬°»ù­È ­Y±z»Ý­n¹ï¼Æ¤Q¸U¤H¦æ¾P¦Ó¼s§i¹wºâ¤S¤£¥´ºâ¶W¥X¨â¸U¤¸ ³o¥¿¬O­Ó¦n¾÷·| 24¸Uµ§¦W³æ Á`»ù 15000¤¸ ¾÷¤£¥i¥¢ ²{¦b´N¼· ¢¯¢¸¢²¢±¢´¢´¢³¢¸¢¶¢· ªL¥ý¥Í ©Î ¢¯¢³¡Ð¢±¢³¢°¢²¢¸¢²¢¸ ©I¥s ¢°¢¯¢´ From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 4 13:46:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22039 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.emirates.net.ae (ns2.emirates.net.ae [194.170.1.71] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22030 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.emirates.net.ae (csd015.emirates.net.ae [194.170.125.79]) by ns2.emirates.net.ae (8.8.6/8.6) with SMTP id AAA26650 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:46:23 +0400 (UAE) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970904204448.00671968@emirates.net.ae> X-Sender: a426mak@emirates.net.ae X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 00:44:48 +0400 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: KAMALI Subject: BUSINESS OPPR IN MIDDLE EAST REGION Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA22035 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ATTN GENERAL MANAGER SUBJECT : GITEX’97 SPONSORSHIP Dear Sir, The biggest and the most exciting Middle East technology exhibition Gitex’97 will be taking place at the Dubai World Trade Center from the 29th Oct. to 2nd Nov. 1997. 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SERVICE CHARGES US $ - (7,500) PAYMENT : PLEASE TELEX TRANSFER THE AMOUNT TO : DATAMATIX, US $ AC/NO : 04 48 461 832 MASHREQ BANK , REQQA BRANCH, DUBAI From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 4 19:36:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10775 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ocean.campus.luth.se (ocean.campus.luth.se [130.240.194.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA10770 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from karpen@localhost) by ocean.campus.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA22607 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 04:48:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Karpberg Message-Id: <199709050248.EAA22607@ocean.campus.luth.se> Subject: Error in printf(1) manpage To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 04:48:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I found that the manpage to /usr/bin/printf is not complete. It forgets to mention the ability to use an asterisk `*' as a field width, and/or precision. I'm submitted a PR on this: docs/4472 Just thought I'd make people aware of the PR. /Mikael PS. I'm not subscribed to freebsd-doc, so I wont see replys to the list only. From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 4 20:35:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA13191 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msk.transinform.ru (ns.msk.transinform.ru [194.154.78.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA13184 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dzeta.glas.apc.org ([194.84.204.42]) by msk.transinform.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA12907 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 07:34:39 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <340F7D88.70FD@msk.tsi.ru> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 07:33:28 +0400 From: dzeta Organization: dzeta X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Ïðåäëîæåíèå Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Óâàæàåìûå ãîñïîäà, Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïîñåòèòå íàø www.dzeta. tsi.ru Ìû ðåàëèçóåì èíòåãðàëüíûé ïðîåêò äëÿ ÷àñòíûõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé è îðãàíèçàöèé "Ðóññêàÿ æèçíü", â êîòîðîì, â ÷àñòíîñòè, íàìåðåíû ïðåäñòàâèòü ðåãèîíàëüíûå è ñïåöèàëèçèðîâàííûå ñåðâåðû ÐÔ. Îçíàêîìüòåñü, â ÷àñòíîñòè, ñ íàøèìè äèðåêòîðèÿìè "Ïðåññà" è "Ìåæäóíàðîäíûå ñâÿçè", è «ÝÄÈÒÀ ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒ», ðåøèòå, êàêèì îáðàçîì Âû õîòèòå áûòü ïðåäñòàâëåíû. Ñòðàíèöû ñåðâåðîâ ìû çàñûëàåì íà ýòîé íåäåëå è äîïîëíÿåì èõ. Íà äàííîì ýòàïå ìû ïðåäëàãàåì îáìåíÿòüñÿ áàííåðàìè è îáñóäèòü äàëüíåéøèå ïåðñïåêòèâû ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâà äî íà÷àëà íàøåé ðåêëàìíîé êîìïàíèè. Íàø E-mail:dzeta@msk.tsi.ru Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïðåäîñòàâüòå íàì êðàòíóþ (50 ñëîâ) àííîòàöèþ; ìû ìîæåì òàêæå ïîñòàâèòü Âàøó îòäåëüíóþ ñòðàíèöó è óêàçàòü, êîòîðóþ èç íàøèõ ìîæåòå ïîñòàâèòü Âû. Îò äðóæåñòâåííûõ Âàì èçäàíèé ìû òàêæå ïðîñèì îòíîñèòåëüíî ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ãàçåòå (æóðíàëå), òèðàæå è ò.ä., ïîñêîëüêó ìû øèðîêî ïðåäñòàâëÿåì ÑÌÈ äëÿ Ìîñêâû. Áóäåò ïðîñòî ïðåêðàñíî, åñëè îíè äîïîëíèòåëüíî ïåðåøëþò íàì 1-2 íîìåðà, ÷òîáû èõ ìîæíî áûëî ïðîñêàíèðîâàòü è ñîçäàòü ðóáðèêó ïîäîáíî òîé, ÷òî ìû ñîçäàëè äëÿ Ìîñêâû â äèðåêòîðèè "ÏÐÅÑÑÀ". Îçíàêîìüòåñü ñ íåé íà íàøåì www.dzeta.tsi.ru, íàäååìñÿ, Âàì ïîíðàâèòñÿ. Àäðåñ äëÿ îòïðàâêè: Ìîñêâà, 109147 à/ÿ 111. Ñ ÓÄÎÂÎËÜÑÒÂÈÅÌ ÏÐÅÄÑÒÀÂÈÌ FreeBSD, à òàêæå ìîæåì îáñóäèòü áîëåå ïåðñïåêòèâíîå ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâî è íåêîòîðûå ñîâìåñòíûå ïðîåêòû. Ñ óâàæåíèåì Âàëåðèé Äàøåâñêèé Ãåíåðàëüíûé äèðåêòîð Àãåíòñòâà ïî ðàçâèòèþ "Äçåòà" ÏÎÑÊÐÈÏÒÓÌ: ó Âàñ ïðåêðàñíûé ñåðâåð. Ïîæàëóéñòà, íå çàáóäüòå ïåðåñûëàòü àííîòàöèè ê áàííåðàì.Ïîæàëóéñòà, óêàæèòå ñòðàíèöû, íà êîòîðûõ õîòèòå ïðèñóòñòâîâàòü. From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 4 22:13:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA28396 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geocities.com (mail5.geocities.com [204.7.246.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA28337 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from den-co12-28.ix.netcom.com (den-co12-28.ix.netcom.com [204.31.232.220]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04817 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:12:42 -0700 (PDT) From: fnorky@geocities.com (Douglas L. Peterson) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Deamon graphics that can be used for a web page link. Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 05:12:56 GMT Message-ID: <340f9467.4481217@mail.geocities.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id WAA28359 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I would like to put a link to www.freebsd.org on my web page. I would also like to use a FreeBSD logo image with that link. Is there a specific image file that I could use for this? -Doug ------------------- Douglas L. Peterson mailto:fnorky@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/1271/ From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 5 01:07:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA23966 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 01:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nico.telstra.net (nico.telstra.net [139.130.204.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA23958 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 01:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by nico.telstra.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id SAA28902; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 18:06:36 +1000 Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id RAA10901; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:36:24 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19970905173624.55493@lemis.com> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:36:24 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Douglas L. Peterson" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Deamon graphics that can be used for a web page link. References: <340f9467.4481217@mail.geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <340f9467.4481217@mail.geocities.com>; from Douglas L. Peterson on Fri, Sep 05, 1997 at 05:12:56AM +0000 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Sep 05, 1997 at 05:12:56AM +0000, Douglas L. Peterson wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to put a link to www.freebsd.org on my web page. I would > also like to use a FreeBSD logo image with that link. Is there a > specific image file that I could use for this? I have: You can get the logo at, amongst other things, http://www.lemis.com/powerlogo.gif. Greg From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 5 09:29:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA17705 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.adonai.net (adam.adonai.net [207.8.83.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA17670; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (leec@localhost) by adam.adonai.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13142; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:29:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lee Crites (AEI)" To: "Douglas L. Peterson" cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Deamon graphics that can be used for a web page link. In-Reply-To: <340f9467.4481217@mail.geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Douglas L. Peterson wrote: =>I would like to put a link to www.freebsd.org on my web page. I would =>also like to use a FreeBSD logo image with that link. Is there a =>specific image file that I could use for this? I found a spot in http://www.freebsd.org/gallery.html where you can download one of the nice, small logos. There were several versions available. Lee From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 5 09:48:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA18934 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cise.ufl.edu (root@fireant.cise.ufl.edu [128.227.205.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA18911 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seaoats (thc@seaoats.cise.ufl.edu [128.227.35.4]) by cise.ufl.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA15056 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3410379B.22E8@cise.ufl.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 12:47:23 -0400 From: Tom H Cosenza X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; U; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing with a zipdrive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am going to attempt to install freebsd on two machines that both have internal zip drives. My question to you is can I install them using the zip drive. We don't have an ethernet connect at this place and I don't want to sit there for three day ftping this os. I would also like to know if you have a faq or any information on weither or not freebsd understants LBA addressing. Thanks Thomas -- You Shouldn't give someone a gun if you don't know where they will point it, Capt Sinclare, Babylon 5 I've always said that you can get more with a two by four and a kind word then you can with just a kind word. Marcus B5 From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 5 17:21:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA10238 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10233 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:21:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Zoltri-X@rocketmail.com Received: from zoltri-x (user-38lc892.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.33.34]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19974 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3410A2A0.2FCE@rocketmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 20:24:48 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Documentation Project: Requesting to join mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I was wondering if i could join the mailing list? My e-mail is Zoltri-X@rocketmail.com thanks! From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 6 15:30:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA06185 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clare.res.com (root@clare.res.com [206.191.145.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06161 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway (van-as-01b12.direct.ca [204.174.248.28]) by clare.res.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA04347 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:30:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3411D962.2B68@nerdsnetwork.com> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 15:29:54 -0700 From: Nerds Network Reply-To: glenn@nerdsnetwork.com Organization: Nerds Network Canada X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MANUAL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like the paperback manual and the cd rom. Where can I order this from? I already downloaded the installation, but find there are some things Im not clear on. I DO need a manual. Is the online manual as good as it gets, or is there a manual I can buy in the bookstore? If so, where and how much? From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 6 17:05:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA10569 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coven.queeg.com (queeg.com [204.95.70.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10557 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brion@localhost) by coven.queeg.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id RAA26110; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709070005.RAA26110@coven.queeg.com> From: Brion Moss MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: glenn@nerdsnetwork.com Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re:MANUAL In-Reply-To: <3411D962.2B68@nerdsnetwork.com> References: <3411D962.2B68@nerdsnetwork.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The printed manual and CD-ROM can be ordered from Walnut Creek CDROM, http://www.cdrom.com/. As I recall, the printed manual is pretty much the online manual, cleaned up a bit for print. What are you finding lacking about the online manual? -Brion Nerds Network writes: > I would like the paperback manual and the cd rom. Where can I order > this from? > > I already downloaded the installation, but find there are some things Im > not clear on. I DO need a manual. Is the online manual as good as it > gets, or is there a manual I can buy in the bookstore? > > If so, where and how much? From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 6 17:26:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA12309 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nico.telstra.net (nico.telstra.net [139.130.204.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA12304 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by nico.telstra.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA11513; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 10:25:35 +1000 Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id JAA05066; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 09:55:33 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19970907095531.44833@lemis.com> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 09:55:31 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Brion Moss Cc: glenn@nerdsnetwork.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re:MANUAL References: <3411D962.2B68@nerdsnetwork.com> <199709070005.RAA26110@coven.queeg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199709070005.RAA26110@coven.queeg.com>; from Brion Moss on Sat, Sep 06, 1997 at 05:05:00PM -0700 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Sep 06, 1997 at 05:05:00PM -0700, Brion Moss wrote: > The printed manual and CD-ROM can be ordered from Walnut Creek CDROM, > http://www.cdrom.com/. > > As I recall, the printed manual is pretty much the online manual, > cleaned up a bit for print. No, this is not correct. The "manual" is the book "The Complete FreeBSD", and it doesn't have much to do with the online manual. To the best of my knowledge, the online manual is not available in print, though you can print it out if you want. > Nerds Network writes: >> I would like the paperback manual and the cd rom. Where can I order >> this from? >> >> I already downloaded the installation, but find there are some things Im >> not clear on. I DO need a manual. Is the online manual as good as it >> gets, or is there a manual I can buy in the bookstore? >> >> If so, where and how much?