From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 14 20:34:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA17899 for doc-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from phantom.mail-center.com ([209.136.73.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA17892 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from woody@mail-man.net) From: woody@mail-man.net Message-Id: <199712150434.UAA17892@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:25:52 -0500 (EST) To: woody@mail-man.net Subject: Best kept "secrets" finally exposed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What computer stores don't want you to know is that a well made, state of the art computer, doesn't have to be expensive. You can have a NEW, powerful, Intel Pentium computer directly FROM US, built with ALL quality components at the lowest possible prices in years. Unbelievable, but true! Imagine, $1247 for a 233 MHz MMX Pentium Computer with MMX Technology! The perfect computer for home, school or business use. But buckle up, because this computer absolutely flies! It features an Intel Pentium processor matched with the latest "TX" Intel chipset motherboard for performance that is nothing short of spectacular. Please note this computer is absolutely BRAND NEW (Not refurbished) and they feature Intel PENTIUM processors EXCLUSIVELY (Not cheap substitutes like AMD or Cyrix). Our Computers have MORE memory, MORE power, and MORE speed for your money. They come LOADED with: * 20 Speed Cd-Rom * 33.6 Fax/Modem for fast internet access * a large, fast 2.1 GB Hard drive * 16 MB of RAM * 512 KB Pipeline Burst cache * Top quality motherboard with Intel TX chipset (very important) * 64 Bit MPEG video with 2 MB RAM * 3D Sound with 80 Watt speakers * 104 Key Windows 95 Keyboard and Mouse * Windows 95 CD Installed Want 32 MB RAM for intense demanding jobs? Add $49. Need a larger hard drive? Upgrade to a 4.3 GB for only $49 Want a 24 Speed CD-Rom? Add $25 Upgrade to a 56K Fax/Modem for only $25 Add Iomega 100MB Zip Drive for only $97 A LOW PRICE without quality doesn't mean much!!! Does it? That's why we design and manufacture our computers to LAST well into the next century. We don't skimp on anything. We build our Computers for you CAREFULLY, one at a time (a far cry from the assembly line mentality of: slap it together and hope it works). We TEST each and every computer for at least 72 hours, so they work FLAWLESSLY right out of the box. No large company can afford to do that. Nor are they willing to! Consider a reader's survey by PC World Magazine in the June '97 issue. They found MORE THAN HALF of their readers experienced PROBLEMS with BRAND NAME computers they recently bought. They titled the article, "When Bad PCs Happen to Good People." The conclusion is obvious: dealing with a large company doesn't assure you of getting a dependable computer. You are not just a number to us. The technician who builds your computer, custom configures it exactly how you want it - just right for you. He even knows your name since it gets programmed into the computer when he optimizes it for speed and performance. And you'll know his name too, because he signs his name to your computer. This guarantees it has been built to the best of his ability and ready for your computing pleasure. There is nothing for you to do except plug it in and turn it on. That's all! Remember, our computers work FLAWLESSLY right out of the box. P.S. SPECIAL BONUS IF YOU ORDER NOW! BRAND NEW 15" MONITOR FOR ONLY $197 OR A 17" MONITER FOR ONLY $397, your choice with the purchase of any Computer. We selected these amazingly sharp and clear .28 SVGA monitors as the perfect match for your new Computer. They have a full three year warranty. Let us build the best for you - for less. Call Computer Physician, Inc. TODAY for details at (215) 836 - 0293 Business hours are 7AM - 10PM EST 7 Days a Week If you would prefer not to recieve future E-mails, please join our unsubscribe list by E-mailing us at woody@mail-man.net Include as the body of your E-Mail - REMOVE your_E-mail_address (c) Copyright 1997 Computer Physician, Inc. All Rights Reserved. From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 15 02:11:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA14352 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:11:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (root@andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA14340 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:11:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA25435; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:10:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:10:13 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Francisco Reyes cc: FreeBSD doc Mailing list Subject: Re: How to find out when www pages are updated. In-Reply-To: <199712120359.TAA15699@super.zippo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Francisco Reyes wrote: > What is the best way to keep track when the Handbook and FAQ pages > are updated? > Does CVSup has a log so if I do a weekly download I can see what > changed? I don't know if there's a log, but if I want to know what's changed, I create a file in the download directory with "touch timestamp" just before I run cvsup. The date/time on the new files will be the time when they're downloaded, in this case to /usr/doc. Then the command in /usr/doc that will provide a list of the files that have changed in newfiles (done in the background) would be find . -newer timestamp > newfiles& Annelise > > I want to start working on the Spanish translation sometime next > week. After the translations are done I will probably look at updates > monthly (or maybe I will take turns with Jesus and we each do every > two months), but in the beggining I want to make sure we do something > reasonably current. > From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 16 04:21:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA21041 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 04:21:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from phantom.mail-center.com ([209.136.73.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA21005; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 04:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from woody@mail-man.net) From: woody@mail-man.net Message-Id: <199712161221.EAA21005@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 07:05:08 -0500 (EST) To: woody@mail-man.net Subject: Best kept "secrets" finally exposed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What computer stores don't want you to know is that a well made, state of the art computer, doesn't have to be expensive. You can have a NEW, powerful, Intel Pentium computer directly FROM US, built with ALL quality components at the lowest possible prices in years. Unbelievable, but true! Imagine, $1247 for a 233 MHz MMX Pentium Computer with MMX Technology! The perfect computer for home, school or business use. But buckle up, because this computer absolutely flies! It features an Intel Pentium processor matched with the latest "TX" Intel chipset motherboard for performance that is nothing short of spectacular. Please note this computer is absolutely BRAND NEW (Not refurbished) and they feature Intel PENTIUM processors EXCLUSIVELY (Not cheap substitutes like AMD or Cyrix). Our Computers have MORE memory, MORE power, and MORE speed for your money. They come LOADED with: * 20 Speed Cd-Rom * 33.6 Fax/Modem for fast internet access * a large, fast 2.1 GB Hard drive * 16 MB of RAM * 512 KB Pipeline Burst cache * Top quality motherboard with Intel TX chipset (very important) * 64 Bit MPEG video with 2 MB RAM * 3D Sound with 80 Watt speakers * 104 Key Windows 95 Keyboard and Mouse * Windows 95 CD Installed Want 32 MB RAM for intense demanding jobs? Add $49. Need a larger hard drive? Upgrade to a 4.3 GB for only $49 Want a 24 Speed CD-Rom? Add $25 Upgrade to a 56K Fax/Modem for only $25 Add Iomega 100MB Zip Drive for only $97 A LOW PRICE without quality doesn't mean much!!! Does it? That's why we design and manufacture our computers to LAST well into the next century. We don't skimp on anything. We build our Computers for you CAREFULLY, one at a time (a far cry from the assembly line mentality of: slap it together and hope it works). We TEST each and every computer for at least 72 hours, so they work FLAWLESSLY right out of the box. No large company can afford to do that. Nor are they willing to! Consider a reader's survey by PC World Magazine in the June '97 issue. They found MORE THAN HALF of their readers experienced PROBLEMS with BRAND NAME computers they recently bought. They titled the article, "When Bad PCs Happen to Good People." The conclusion is obvious: dealing with a large company doesn't assure you of getting a dependable computer. You are not just a number to us. The technician who builds your computer, custom configures it exactly how you want it - just right for you. He even knows your name since it gets programmed into the computer when he optimizes it for speed and performance. And you'll know his name too, because he signs his name to your computer. This guarantees it has been built to the best of his ability and ready for your computing pleasure. There is nothing for you to do except plug it in and turn it on. That's all! Remember, our computers work FLAWLESSLY right out of the box. P.S. SPECIAL BONUS IF YOU ORDER NOW! BRAND NEW 15" MONITOR FOR ONLY $197 OR A 17" MONITER FOR ONLY $397, your choice with the purchase of any Computer. We selected these amazingly sharp and clear .28 SVGA monitors as the perfect match for your new Computer. They have a full three year warranty. Let us build the best for you - for less. Call Computer Physician, Inc. TODAY for details at (215) 836 - 0293 Business hours are 7AM - 10PM EST 7 Days a Week If you would prefer not to recieve future E-mails, please join our unsubscribe list by E-mailing us at woody@mail-man.net Include as the body of your E-Mail - REMOVE your_E-mail_address (c) Copyright 1997 Computer Physician, Inc. All Rights Reserved. From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 16 07:57:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA04480 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 07:57:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from mage.qualcomm.com (mage.qualcomm.com [129.46.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA04475 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 07:57:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dtafolla@qualcomm.com) Received: from dtafolla2 (mandrew.qualcomm.com [129.46.227.34]) by mage.qualcomm.com (8.8.5/1.4/8.7.2/1.14) with SMTP id HAA00999 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 07:56:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971216080156.0091f3a0@pan.qpe.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: dtafolla@pan.qpe.qualcomm.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:01:57 -0800 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Daniel Tafolla Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 17 10:01:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA28354 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net (relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA28334 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:01:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmastr@pbdsd.com) Received: from pbdsd.com by relay1.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA13240; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dsd1 ([127.0.0.1]) by pbdsd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01245; Wed, 17 Dec 97 13:14:19 EST Message-Id: <3498167A.41C67EA6@pbdsd.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:14:18 -0500 From: webmaster X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; U; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Download Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I thought that your site was quite helpful. Is there a way that you can download the handbook as a whole instead of by individual sections? Thanks, Jon From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 17 22:06:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA21893 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:06:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21859 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:06:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (mail.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.21]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA05282 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:49:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:49:38 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Possible addition to the Handbook and/or FAQ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As a result of the number of such queries that come across the -questions list, I think this merits an FAQ: What are the differences between FreeBSD and other free UNIXs, especially Linux? I have a page with various answers to this basic question polled over time from the various lists. The URL is: http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd/bsdvlin.htm Perhaps a small blurb under the What is FreeBSD question concerning differences, with a link to the above page? Or perhaps even a seperate FAQ. I make no guaruntees about the accuracy of the information posted on this page; I just picked the answers that were more discussions of the difference, rather that 'we're better because they suck' and related flames. Do with as you like. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 18 09:18:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA04691 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:18:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from frobenius.math.tifr.res.in (pablo@[158.144.23.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04672 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pablo@math.tifr.res.in) From: pablo@math.tifr.res.in Received: (from pablo@localhost) by frobenius.math.tifr.res.in (8.8.7/8.6.12) id WAA03517; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:48:05 +0530 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:48:05 +0530 Message-Id: <199712181718.WAA03517@frobenius.math.tifr.res.in> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.6 X-Personal_name: Pablo Ares Subject: LILO booting FreeBSD Cc: pablo@math.tifr.res.in Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have read your FAQ regarding the usage of LILO to boot Linux and FreeBSD. The person who wrote the answer says he/she was not able to do it. Well, that's how I boot FreeBSD in my Linux box! Very easy. It works smoothly. Here is my /etc/lilo.conf in case it helps. Pablo. -------------- # LILO configuration file # generated by 'liloconfig' # # Start LILO global section boot = /dev/hda #compact # faster, but won't work on all systems. # delay = 5 # put prompt if you want LILO to stop instead of going to #the first OS directly vga = normal # force sane state default = linux # this is optional # ramdisk = 0 # paranoia setting # End LILO global section # Linux bootable partition config begins image = /boot/zImage-2.0.32 root = /dev/hda2 label = linux read-only #image = /vmlinuz # root = /dev/hda2 # label = linux-std # read-only # Non-UMSDOS filesystems should be mounted read-only for checking # Linux bootable partition config ends other = /dev/hda1 label = windows table = /dev/hda other = /dev/hda4 label = freebsd From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 18 09:31:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA05618 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:31:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA05596 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:31:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.6/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04181 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:27:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.7/8.8.8) id SAA15999; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:27:02 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971218182701.62690@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:27:01 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: old release link at availability.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk availability.html still point to the 2.2-Release (March, 1997). It should to 2.2.5 or to the general 'Release Information' page (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/). -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 18 16:04:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA04727 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:04:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from super.zippo.com (perry.zippo.com [207.211.168.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04722 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:04:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reyesf@super.zippo.com) Received: (from reyesf@localhost) by super.zippo.com (8.8.6/8.8.7) id QAA29994; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:04:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712190004.QAA29994@super.zippo.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 18 Dec 97 19:06:07 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Need suggestions about Spanish translation. Should we include in CVSup DOC distribution? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The Spanish translation of the FreeBSD pages has commenced. I had a couple of topics I was wondering if someone could give us some feedback on a couple of things. -What would be required to get our translation included in the DOC distribution like the Japanese is. -If it is integrated, how would we send our updates? Who would commit the changes for us? -Are pages from the Japanese docs hosted at www.freebsd.org and it's mirrors? From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 18 19:52:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17860 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from mail1y-int.prodigy.net (mail1y-ext.prodigy.net [198.83.19.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17784 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:51:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ENIGMATICJC@prodigy.net) From: ENIGMATICJC@prodigy.net Received: from ferretpiss (port55.cinc.prodigy.net [204.237.32.55]) by mail1y-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA36954 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:51:07 -0500 Message-ID: <349A19E9.17C9@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:53:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: too big Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I would like to inform you that your boot FLP file on your FTP server is too big to fit on an empty win or dos formatted 1.44 3.5" diskette. I tried several diskettes and it was still a little too large to fit on both. Thanx for your time. girlq@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 19 08:17:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA26589 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:17:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from gate.iterated.com (gate.iterated.com [206.30.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA26568 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from csagar@iterated.com) Received: from [206.30.188.188] by gate.iterated.com for id LAA16854; Fri Dec 19 11:17:03 1997 Message-ID: <349A9D78.70EB@iterated.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:15:09 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: installation comments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Sagar Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying for about 12 hrs to install FreeBSD. I keep getting signal 11. I am using IBM Thinkpad/760 with 3-Com 3c589 PCMCIA network card. I get to the ftp site just fine. After going thru the ftp download (which takes about 2 hrs), I get the ftp site location screen again. I select "Cancel" to get out, and I get the Signal 11 error and a reboot. Everything is lost that was downloaded and I have to start again. If I select "OK" at the menu, I get connected to the ftp site and I start the download again. How do I get past the ftp download? I have turned on debugging for this, my 4th attempt, to see what is happening. Because of the extremely slow download times, I would like to load from an NFS server I have here, but what data sets do I download to my server? I want to build my machine to a "user" level. Many thanks for the help. CHris Sagar csagar@iterated.com From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 19 18:02:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA11091 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:02:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from tcom.uzhgorod.ua (tcom.uzhgorod.ua [193.193.199.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11060 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:02:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ol@sen.uzhgorod.ua) Received: from www.sen.com (d5.tcom.uzhgorod.ua [193.193.199.215]) by tcom.uzhgorod.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15835 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 04:08:11 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199712200208.EAA15835@tcom.uzhgorod.ua> From: "Sen" To: Subject: HELP Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 04:01:22 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 19 18:28:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA12269 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from tcom.uzhgorod.ua (tcom.uzhgorod.ua [193.193.199.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA12260 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:28:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ol@sen.uzhgorod.ua) Received: from www.sen.com (d5.tcom.uzhgorod.ua [193.193.199.215]) by tcom.uzhgorod.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15969 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 04:34:18 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199712200234.EAA15969@tcom.uzhgorod.ua> From: "Sen" To: "Free BSD" Subject: Help Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 04:27:19 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 19 18:28:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA12293 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:28:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from tcom.uzhgorod.ua (tcom.uzhgorod.ua [193.193.199.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA12284 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:28:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ol@sen.uzhgorod.ua) Received: from www.sen.com (d5.tcom.uzhgorod.ua [193.193.199.215]) by tcom.uzhgorod.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15974 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 04:34:46 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199712200234.EAA15974@tcom.uzhgorod.ua> From: "Sen" To: "Free BSD" Subject: List Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 04:28:00 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 20 02:53:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA06814 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 02:53:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from dns.homenet.com.tw (homenet.com.tw [203.69.153.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06808 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 02:53:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from elephant@homenet.com.tw) Received: from sun.homenet.com.tw ([172.17.1.1]) by dns.homenet.com.tw (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA05406 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:47:20 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <349C25DC.398@homenet.com.tw> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 04:09:00 +0800 From: elephant X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: for freebsd-doc Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 20 20:18:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA06698 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:18:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: from fivedots.coe.psu.ac.th (root@[203.154.146.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA06692 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:18:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from s3610203@fivedots.coe.psu.ac.th) Received: from localhost by fivedots.coe.psu.ac.th with smtp id m0xjq6t-0002VUC (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.37); Sun, 21 Dec 97 11:28 GMT+7 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 11:28:19 -0700 (GMT+7) From: Aree THEERAPHAPSAREE To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: I want to ask about installing Freebsd, with other os' Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to ask if i can install Freebsd 2.2.5 with linux, nt, win95., do i have to use the winnt boot menu,? or can i use the bsd boot menu.., I aslo want to ask what files i need to download for a basic install, what directory structure should i copy from the ftp site.,. And, can i install from one hardisk to another hardisk? i download freebsd in E: and i want to install it in D:., is it possible to do so?