From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 05:12:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA05637 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 05:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from yamuna.will.knipp.de ([195.138.38.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA05615 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 05:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pruess@yamuna.will.knipp.de) Received: (from pruess@localhost) by yamuna.will.knipp.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA02346; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:12:41 +0100 (CET) From: Gunnar Pruessner Message-Id: <199712141312.OAA02346@yamuna.will.knipp.de> Subject: Problems with Tyan Tomcat IV To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:12:40 +0100 (CET) Cc: pruess@yamuna.will.knipp.de (Gunnar Pruessner) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Recently we tested a new system: Tyan Tomcat IV (single processor), K6-233 (C9746BJGW 3.3(!)V Core), 2x64MB + 6x32MB = 320MB. We tried all available BIOS options for cache and RAM timing, but it failed again and again at the latest after 2 hours: "Page fault in kernel mode" or simply hanging (without core). Any suggestions? We need at least 256MB and PPro-class computing power, do you know any alternatives? Thank you, Gunnar -- ###################################################### # # # "5.6 Die Grenzen meiner Sprache bedeuten die # # Grenzen meiner Welt." # # # # -- Ludwig Wittgenstein # ###################################################### From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 08:08:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15786 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 08:08:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (VOjO7n1v7FGWo3S4OLVQ8+br6MyTuCwJ@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA15780 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 08:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27417 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:08:42 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:08:42 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199712141608.RAA27417@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI card to choose Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Huh? Adaptec give their drivers away with their hardware, just like > > everyone else. > > Not really. You have to buy them if you want drivers for anything but > hard-disks, ie; CD-ROM support. My Adaptecs (1542, 2940) came with those drivers (HD, CD-ROM, even for removable media such as MO drives) and a bunch of tools for partitioning, formatting and verifying drives, a simple CD audio player, and other stuff I never needed. Of course, the bulk versions of the adapters don't come with those drivers -- that's why they're called "bulk". Other vendors have driver-less bulk versions of their products, too, so this is not an Adaptec special. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 08:36:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA17669 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 08:36:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (FzY1Xal4UhJPxcBn4dxfe6L8zBAh9Ni1@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA17652 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 08:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27517 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:35:58 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:35:58 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199712141635.RAA27517@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: looking for a decent Soundcard Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andreas Braukmann wrote in list.freebsd-hardware: > I'm just thinking of stuffing a decent sound-card into my > FreeBSD workstation and wondering which soundcard to choose. > [...] > To make a long story short: I'm looking for a sound-card with decent > quality of sound (and signals ...) supported by FreeBSD, the > bad (NT 4.0) and the ugly (Win95) operating system. If you want very good sound quality at a reasonable price, you might consider the AWE64-Gold. It features an excellent frequency response and S/N ratio (if you're interested in details: there was an extensive test and comparison of various soundcards in the c't magazine about half a year ago [see their online index]). Since it is compatible to the complete SB product line, it is supported by virtually everything. Under FreeBSD, you should install the latest PnP patches (Luigi and Amancio did a GREAT job with their drivers!). Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 09:58:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA23105 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 09:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23099 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 09:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13955 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 10:58:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02306; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 10:58:47 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 10:58:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199712141758.KAA02306@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI card to choose Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware In-Reply-To: <199712141608.RAA27417@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> References: <199712141608.RAA27417@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Huh? Adaptec give their drivers away with their hardware, just like > > > everyone else. > > > > Not really. You have to buy them if you want drivers for anything but > > hard-disks, ie; CD-ROM support. > > My Adaptecs (1542, 2940) came with those drivers (HD, CD-ROM, > even for removable media such as MO drives) and a bunch of > tools for partitioning, formatting and verifying drives, a > simple CD audio player, and other stuff I never needed. Mind didn't. Which version did you buy, cause the 1542B did *NOT* come with them by default, since you had to buy EZ-SCSI separately. :( (Although, back then Adaptec provided an 'upgrade' on their ftp site which was a simple lzh archive which would give you the newest versions of the software, which I use to read the CD on my 10MB RAMDISK that I create from a DOS boot floppy. :) > Of course, the bulk versions of the adapters don't come with > those drivers -- that's why they're called "bulk". This wasn't a 'bulk driver', but the 'standard' retail package for the card that I bought. You *can* buy the card with drivers, but as stated Adaptec charges more for the card with the drivers than w/out, hence proving the original assertion that Adaptec does indeed charge for their drivers. Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 11:17:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01183 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:17:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from headend.cablenet-va.com (headend.cablenet-va.com [208.197.246.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01174 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:17:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jimdunn@usa.net) Received: from cyrix (dialup-user172.cablenet-va.com [208.197.246.172]) by headend.cablenet-va.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA29911 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:16:06 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Jim Dunn" From: "Jim Dunn" To: Subject: Re: K6 and FreeBSD Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:16:03 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd08c4$b8591520$acf6c5d0@cyrix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I've got an ABIT IT5H here I want to slap a K6 into, but I'm >concerned about the linear voltage regulators. Could I get >a show of hands of folks out there running FreeBSD on this >board with this processor at >= 200Mhz? Anyone had problems? This brings up a question I've been meaning to ask... Is there a FAQ or info sheet on the "cpu" of choice for FBSD??? (i.e. Cyrix/AMD/etc) and motherboard of choice, etc? Thx! Jim Jim Dunn, jimdunn@usa.net From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 12:04:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA05267 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (W+2ChhdzVcPyQj4R64lhzNPgQn0FdAnK@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA05262 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:04:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28683 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:04:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:04:28 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199712142004.VAA28683@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI card to choose Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote in list.freebsd-hardware: > [...] > > My Adaptecs (1542, 2940) came with those drivers (HD, CD-ROM, > > even for removable media such as MO drives) and a bunch of > > tools for partitioning, formatting and verifying drives, a > > simple CD audio player, and other stuff I never needed. > > Mind didn't. Which version did you buy, cause the 1542B did *NOT* come > with them by default, since you had to buy EZ-SCSI separately. :( I bought the 1542C and the 2940. > > Of course, the bulk versions of the adapters don't come with > > those drivers -- that's why they're called "bulk". > > This wasn't a 'bulk driver', but the 'standard' retail package for the > card that I bought. You *can* buy the card with drivers, but as stated > Adaptec charges more for the card with the drivers than w/out, hence > proving the original assertion that Adaptec does indeed charge for their > drivers. Yes, but that's normal. Adaptec's SCSI adapters have always been available as "bulk" and "kit" versions. The kits come with a bunch of manuals, drivers and cables. By the way, other vendors do the same. It is especially common for network interface cards, but also soundcards and controllers are often available both as "bulk" and "kit". IMHO this is a good thing, because you pay only for what you actually need. For example, if you have to equip a pool with cards, you don't need 50 copies of the manuals and driver CDs -- so why pay for them 50 times? It's similar to many commercial software packages: You can chose between online manuals on the CD and printed manuals. If you don't need the printed ones, you can save a considerable amount of money. Nevertheless, I agree that Adaptec's SCSI adapters are over- priced (at least the "consumer line", i.e. 1542, 2840, 2940), no matter whether manuals/drivers are included. Their only advantage (again: IMHO) is their on-board BIOS and their great configurability. I wouldn't want to miss Adaptec's set-up and configuration firmware. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 13:09:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA10830 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:09:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA10813 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:09:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xhL55-0000fQ-00; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:56:07 -0800 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:56:04 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Gunnar Pruessner cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with Tyan Tomcat IV In-Reply-To: <199712141312.OAA02346@yamuna.will.knipp.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Gunnar Pruessner wrote: > Hello! > Recently we tested a new system: Tyan Tomcat IV (single processor), > K6-233 (C9746BJGW 3.3(!)V Core), 2x64MB + 6x32MB = 320MB. We tried > all available BIOS options for cache and RAM timing, but it failed > again and again at the latest after 2 hours: "Page fault in kernel > mode" or simply hanging (without core). > > Any suggestions? Are you sure the RAM is good? A lot (10%) of the RAM I've bought lately, is DOA, and I need to return it. Of course, I always buy parity memory, so the server simply tells me what the problem is, rather than a mysterious panic. Also, how chips are on the 64MB SIMMs? Most motherboards can only handle SIMMs with 24 chips or less, but every time I've ordered 64MB SIMMs, I gotten unusable SIMMs. On large memory configurations, ALWAYS use parity RAM. > Thank you, > Gunnar Tom From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 13:21:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA11898 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:21:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from tandem.milestonerdl.com (main.milestonerdl.com [204.107.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11892 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:21:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@tandem.milestonerdl.com) Received: (from marc@localhost) by tandem.milestonerdl.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA07597; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:39:47 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:39:47 +0000 () From: Marc Rassbach To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose In-Reply-To: <199712142004.VAA28683@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As I am looking at overclocking my bus speed, which cards (SCSI and network) out there are known to work at faster bus rates? (75 and 83 mhz bus) http://www.anandtech.com/cgi-bin/Database_manager/db_manager.cgi?setup_file=ocfpers.setup is starting such a list.... On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Oliver Fromme wrote: Unless Adaptec has changed: If I have 1 card with CD and 4 more without and the OS I bought requires a driver supplied by Adaptec, I am only licenced for 1 copy, not 5. BusLogic allowed me to buy/download the one driver and replicate it. > IMHO this is a good thing, because you pay only for what you > actually need. For example, if you have to equip a pool with And I consider vendors creating and supplying drives to be a necessary job for them... not an extra charge. > Nevertheless, I agree that Adaptec's SCSI adapters are over- > priced (at least the "consumer line", i.e. 1542, 2840, 2940), Nod, and for that extra cost, they should be happy to provide the drivers. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 13:26:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA12267 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:26:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA12256 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:26:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA22724; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:56:15 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19971215075615.27493@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:56:15 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI card to choose References: <199712142004.VAA28683@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199712142004.VAA28683@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from Oliver Fromme on Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 09:04:28PM +0100 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 09:04:28PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Nate Williams wrote in list.freebsd-hardware: >> [...] >>> My Adaptecs (1542, 2940) came with those drivers (HD, CD-ROM, >>> even for removable media such as MO drives) and a bunch of >>> tools for partitioning, formatting and verifying drives, a >>> simple CD audio player, and other stuff I never needed. >> >> Mind didn't. Which version did you buy, cause the 1542B did *NOT* come >> with them by default, since you had to buy EZ-SCSI separately. :( > > I bought the 1542C and the 2940. > >>> Of course, the bulk versions of the adapters don't come with >>> those drivers -- that's why they're called "bulk". >> >> This wasn't a 'bulk driver', but the 'standard' retail package for the >> card that I bought. You *can* buy the card with drivers, but as stated >> Adaptec charges more for the card with the drivers than w/out, hence >> proving the original assertion that Adaptec does indeed charge for their >> drivers. > > Yes, but that's normal. Adaptec's SCSI adapters have always > been available as "bulk" and "kit" versions. The kits come > with a bunch of manuals, drivers and cables. > > By the way, other vendors do the same. It is especially common > for network interface cards, but also soundcards and > controllers are often available both as "bulk" and "kit". > > IMHO this is a good thing, because you pay only for what you > actually need. For example, if you have to equip a pool with > cards, you don't need 50 copies of the manuals and driver CDs > -- so why pay for them 50 times? > > It's similar to many commercial software packages: You can > chose between online manuals on the CD and printed manuals. > If you don't need the printed ones, you can save a considerable > amount of money. I think the real question here is: "What is the reason for the higher price of the \"kit\" packaging?". Some people contend that it's the drivers, which ignores the cables and manuals. Admittedly, the price differential is significant, but it's similar to the pricing of processors: you can buy the chip, or you can buy it in a box big enough for 500 chips, containing a manual telling you how to open your computer and insert the processor. In other words, one's for people who have a minimal understanding of the concepts, and one's for people who have none. Obviously the drivers aren't part of the price, though the media probably are (after all, WC charges $25 for the FreeBSD CD-ROMs). You can get the drivers free from the web, even if you'd think that they'd made it as difficult as possible with the URL (http://www.adaptec.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/adaptec.woa/4405000000314130000000751000000423/Main.wo/94270000007423/0/2/web-obj?PAGEID=support/overview/ezscsi4x) > Nevertheless, I agree that Adaptec's SCSI adapters are over- > priced (at least the "consumer line", i.e. 1542, 2840, 2940), > no matter whether manuals/drivers are included. Their only > advantage (again: IMHO) is their on-board BIOS and their > great configurability. I wouldn't want to miss Adaptec's > set-up and configuration firmware. You would have done on the 154x. Greg From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 14:13:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA15304 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:13:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA15225 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xhM5d-0000h4-00; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:00:45 -0800 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:00:29 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Marc Rassbach cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Marc Rassbach wrote: > As I am looking at overclocking my bus speed, which cards (SCSI and network) > out there are known to work at faster bus rates? (75 and 83 mhz bus) It seems that you are talking about CPU memory bus speeds, that is the base rate of the CPU. PCI gives you 132MB/s bandwidth. Anything different is not PCI. Tom From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 15:15:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA20063 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from mail.jump.net (serv1.jump.net [204.238.120.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA20047 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aa@jump.net) Received: from bubba by mail.jump.net (8.8.8/jump.1.11) id RAA09432; Message-ID: <34946669.73A4@jump.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:06:17 -0600 From: Allan Alford X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom CC: Marc Rassbach , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tom wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Marc Rassbach wrote: > > > As I am looking at overclocking my bus speed, which cards (SCSI and network) > > out there are known to work at faster bus rates? (75 and 83 mhz bus) > > It seems that you are talking about CPU memory bus speeds, that is the > base rate of the CPU. > > PCI gives you 132MB/s bandwidth. Anything different is not PCI. > > Tom The way I understand it is this: PCI bus speed = 1/2 motherboard bus speed. Motherboard bus speed is the same as 'CPU speed' without the clock multiplier. The newest motherboards that are breaking the 66MHz speed barrier have increased the PCI bus from 33 to either 37.5 (half of 75) or 41.5 (half of 83). The official PCI standard was designed to accomodate up to 66MHz, but only specifically calls for 33MHz in its current iteration. Thus, with the newest motherboards, many PCI cards of older and/or less reliable manufacture do not work properly. To my knowledge, Cyrix is the only CPU manufacturer currently active who can support the 83MHz standard anyway. Because of their new chip, a handful of motherboard manufacturers are now claiming support for that speed. What the individual PCI card manufacturers are officially stating, I do not know. This is very new and very cutting edge technology. Research well. - Allan From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 15:58:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA23697 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:58:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp [131.113.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA23690 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:58:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6Wbeta6-ntc_mailserver1.03) id IAA00561; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:57:46 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:57:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199712142357.IAA00561@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Cc: templin@erg.sri.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: NetWave driver for FreeBSD (was Re: PCMCIA card support list) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:19:41 -0800". <18542.881979581@time.cdrom.com> From: hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.20] 1996-12/08(Sun) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <18542.881979581@time.cdrom.com> jkh@time.cdrom.com writes: >> > if anyone was aware of the existence of this driver, shame on you for not >> > telling me - it would have saved me a great deal of time and effort! >> >> We're rarely aware of what the PAO folks have in the pipeline - they >> discuss all their work in Japanese. :) I'm very sorry, I have known that BSDI has NetWave driver, but I thought it'll not be available like Xircom's PocketEther driver of early BSDI BSD/386. I've noticed that they'll be put it under BSD copyrght only a few days ago, and I've forgotten the discussion of NetWave driver in this maling list. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi Network Technology Center Keio University hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 16:16:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA25261 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:16:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from MindBender.serv.net (mindbender.serv.net [205.153.153.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA25229 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00957; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:14:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712150014.QAA00957@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Marc Rassbach cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 14 Dec 97 16:39:47 +0000. Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:14:15 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >As I am looking at overclocking my bus speed, which cards (SCSI and network) >out there are known to work at faster bus rates? (75 and 83 mhz bus) As someone else pointed out, anything above 33MHz PCI bus speed (~37.5 and ~42MHz in the cases you list) is technically a violation of the current PCI spec, and isn't guaranteed to be supported. However, Cyrix has been pushing 75MHz busses for over a year now (not 83MHz as someone else mentioned). There are several PCI manufacturers who have signed on to support the Cyrix chips that require 75MHz bus. So, even though it's not per spec, many modern cards run OK at these speeds. Older cards may not. Check out http://www.tomshardware.com/ for more info on all this stuff. Especially for lists of hardware that have successfully run at these higher speeds, and info on over-clocking, in general. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 18:39:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA09285 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:39:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA09279 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:39:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00602; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:04:06 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199712150234.NAA00602@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Gunnar Pruessner cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with Tyan Tomcat IV In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:12:40 BST." <199712141312.OAA02346@yamuna.will.knipp.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:04:06 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Recently we tested a new system: Tyan Tomcat IV (single processor), > K6-233 (C9746BJGW 3.3(!)V Core), 2x64MB + 6x32MB = 320MB. We tried > all available BIOS options for cache and RAM timing, but it failed > again and again at the latest after 2 hours: "Page fault in kernel > mode" or simply hanging (without core). > > Any suggestions? > > We need at least 256MB and PPro-class computing power, do you know > any alternatives? Er, a Pentium Pro and matching motherboard, perhaps? mike From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 19:13:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA12144 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:13:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from monk.via.net (monk.via.net [140.174.204.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA12137 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:13:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by monk.via.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id TAA09703; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:02:03 -0800 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:02:03 -0800 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199712150302.TAA09703@monk.via.net> To: pruess@yamuna.will.knipp.de Subject: Re: Problems with Tyan Tomcat IV Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My experience with the TYAN Tomcat IV is similar to yours. Of three systems I've assembled, only one operates reliably. The other two get intermittant NMI's and various kernel panics. I'd love to wash my hands of TYAN and say they're junk - yet the dual Pentium II boards seem to work very reliably. We have several and they are rock solid. Joe From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 19:17:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA12555 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from monk.via.net (monk.via.net [140.174.204.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA12531 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by monk.via.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id TAA09724; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:05:54 -0800 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:05:54 -0800 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199712150305.TAA09724@monk.via.net> To: tom@sdf.com Subject: Re: Problems with Tyan Tomcat IV Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Also, how chips are on the 64MB SIMMs? Most motherboards can only >handle SIMMs with 24 chips or less, but every time I've ordered 64MB >SIMMs, I gotten unusable SIMMs. > > On large memory configurations, ALWAYS use parity RAM. We've had excellent results with Transcend and Centon ram. Even the 64Meg simms (using 64M chips) work reliably. The 64M simms made up of 16M parts are unusable. You may be able to put two or four in your system, but no more than that. They load the bus too much. joe From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 14 21:43:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA22158 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from quark.chrisbowman.com (crb.mnsinc.com [206.239.213.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA22138 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:43:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crb@chrisbowman.com) Received: from localhost (crb@localhost) by quark.chrisbowman.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA03011; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:46:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from crb@chrisbowman.com) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.chrisbowman.com: crb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:46:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Bowman" To: Joe McGuckin cc: pruess@yamuna.will.knipp.de, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Tyan Tomcat IV In-Reply-To: <199712150302.TAA09703@monk.via.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Joe McGuckin wrote: > >My experience with the TYAN Tomcat IV is similar to yours. Of three >systems I've assembled, only one operates reliably. The other two >get intermittant NMI's and various kernel panics. > >I'd love to wash my hands of TYAN and say they're junk - yet the >dual Pentium II boards seem to work very reliably. We have several >and they are rock solid. > >Joe As is (reliable) my TYAN 1668 Dual PPro ATX board (thought I have never had more than one processor in it) --------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@chrisbowman.com My home page From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 15 01:46:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA12716 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 01:46:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from thredbo.mindandmachine.com.au (thredbo.mindandmachine.com.au [203.35.157.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA12706 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 01:46:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@mindandmachine.com.au) Received: from bluecow.mindandmachine.com.au (bluecow.mindandmachine.com.au [203.35.157.75]) by thredbo.mindandmachine.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01918 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:31:49 +1100 (EST) Received: by bluecow.mindandmachine.com.au with Microsoft Mail id <01BD0999.EEE6EEC0@bluecow.mindandmachine.com.au>; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:42:17 +1100 Message-ID: <01BD0999.EEE6EEC0@bluecow.mindandmachine.com.au> From: Marc Moderegger To: "'freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Boot Pause on AMD486 CPU Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:42:16 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id BAA12710 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any help most appreciated! I've been trying to install FreeBSD onto an AMD486/50 base system. The problem is when booting the system, the kernel loads and then announces the version of FreeBSD and the general info of its compilation eg, Date, time and who compiled it. It then pauses for more than 20 minutes...after which the boot process continues on its merry way. Everything then seems to work fine. Are there any compatability problems with the AMD486/50, and what is the boot process doing during that pause (is it scanning for cpu - as this is the next line that comes up [what cpu I'm using - I486DX])? Is there anything I can do to stop this pause from happening? It doesn't happen when I boot of the install floppy... Thanks in advance, Marc From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 15 02:48:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA16949 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:48:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA16932 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:48:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA20226; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:47:13 -0800 (PST) To: "Christopher R. Bowman" cc: Joe McGuckin , pruess@yamuna.will.knipp.de, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Tyan Tomcat IV In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:46:01 EST." Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:47:13 -0800 Message-ID: <20222.882182833@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As is (reliable) my TYAN 1668 Dual PPro ATX board (thought I have never had > more than one processor in it) I have and it works just great. I'm quite puzzled at all this sudden invective aimed at Tyan, considering that it's definitely my motherboard of choice, and wonder if this isn't perhaps a voltage problem or something. I was recently talking to a friend of mine who uses a bunch of Tyan MBs and he was recounting this odd problem he had where this one machine was getting sig-11s and generally failing to install (it would panic at various places in sysinstall). He racked his brains for some time until one of his buddies mentioned that he'd been talking to a Tyan support engineer who mentioned in passing that if you have your DIMMs set for 5V instead of 3V, some definite weirdness would occur. Off goes my friend to check and, sure enough, there *is* a jumper for the memory operating voltage and it was set to 5V. Once changed, the machine performed flawlessly. Just FYI. Jordan From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 15 04:02:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA21059 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:02:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from baloon.mimi.com (sjx-ca124-48.ix.netcom.com [207.223.162.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA21051 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:02:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@sunrise.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21435; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:02:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:02:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712151202.EAA21435@baloon.mimi.com> To: aa@jump.net CC: tom@sdf.com, marc@tandem.milestonerdl.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <34946669.73A4@jump.net> (message from Allan Alford on Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:06:17 -0600) Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * From: Allan Alford * PCI bus speed = 1/2 motherboard bus speed. Motherboard bus speed is the * same as 'CPU speed' without the clock multiplier. The newest Don't the VIA Apollo chipsets allow you to keep the PCI bus at 33MHz even when the system bus is running at 75MHz or 83MHz? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 15 05:16:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA26213 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 05:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA26108 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 05:15:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn [129.215.197.19]) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA09859; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:15:13 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:15:13 GMT Message-Id: <16012.199712151315@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: RICOH MP6200S CD-R, CD-RW To: "Joseph J. Volack" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Joseph J. Volack's message of Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:10:01 -1000 (HST) Organization: just say no Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is anybody using the RICOH MP6200S with FreeBSD? Looks like these > are a pretty good deal now. I mailed Ricoh Europe to ask for programming information, but they refused (see below). Looks like their drives are a really bad deal for free software users... I guess it wouldn't be too hard to reverse engineer, if you could see the SCSI commands being sent to the CD drive under Windoze. Is it possible to connect a second computer to the SCSI bus and see what commands get sent, or do you need special hardware for this? (Reverse engineering to determine interfaces is completely legal, at least in the EU.) -- Richard Message-Id: <9712140551.AA02561@CD-R Support.ricoh-red.com> From: CDR-SUPPORT Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 14:51:50 +0900 To: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: Driver information for CD-RW drives --------------------- >I am interested in using a Ricoh SCSI CD-RW drive with the FreeBSD >operating system. Where can I get the information necessary to write >a device driver for your drives? > >-- Richard Tobin Log No.: KN-97-3164 Dear Mr. Richard Tobin, In case of the details of SCSI Commands, we can not send it. Because, it is the confidential information from Ricoh Japan, and they send the information to OEM Customers or Software Developers who have good relationship with us with Non-Disclosure Agreement. Best Regards, ---------------------------------------- CDR-SUPPORT Technical Support for CD-R and CD-RW RICOH Europe B.V DMS Division ---------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 15 08:39:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA11613 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp [131.113.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA11594 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:39:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6Wbeta6-ntc_mailserver1.03) id BAA04454; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 01:25:19 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 01:25:19 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199712151625.BAA04454@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> To: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk Cc: volack@computer.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: RICOH MP6200S CD-R, CD-RW In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:15:13 GMT". <16012.199712151315@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.20] 1996-12/08(Sun) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <16012.199712151315@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk writes: >> > Is anybody using the RICOH MP6200S with FreeBSD? Looks like these >> > are a pretty good deal now. >> >> I mailed Ricoh Europe to ask for programming information, but they >> refused (see below). Looks like their drives are a really bad deal >> for free software users... Hmm, I'm using this drive with test version driver under freebsd 2.2.5-RELEASE. I've only tested it on data track of CD-R media, but the author says that it can write CD-RW media as well. Mr. Shimokawa, May I redistribute this patch :-) ? It's very useful. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi Network Technology Center Keio University hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 15 08:46:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA12215 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:46:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from mail.jump.net (serv1.jump.net [204.238.120.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA12210 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:46:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aa@jump.net) Received: from rat by mail.jump.net (8.8.8/jump.1.11) id KAA11227; Message-ID: <34955E77.206D@jump.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:44:39 -0600 From: Allan Alford X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satoshi Asami CC: tom@sdf.com, marc@tandem.milestonerdl.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose References: <199712151202.EAA21435@baloon.mimi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Satoshi Asami wrote: > > * From: Allan Alford > > * PCI bus speed = 1/2 motherboard bus speed. Motherboard bus speed is the > * same as 'CPU speed' without the clock multiplier. The newest > > Don't the VIA Apollo chipsets allow you to keep the PCI bus at 33MHz > even when the system bus is running at 75MHz or 83MHz? > > Satoshi No clue, but I do know that Apollo/K6 is an awesome combination for the price. - Allan From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 15 08:48:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA12434 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:48:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from MindBender.serv.net (mindbender.serv.net [205.153.153.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA12429 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:48:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00487; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:47:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712151647.IAA00487@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: aa@jump.net, tom@sdf.com, marc@tandem.milestonerdl.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 15 Dec 97 04:02:05 -0800. <199712151202.EAA21435@baloon.mimi.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:47:50 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * From: Allan Alford > * PCI bus speed = 1/2 motherboard bus speed. Motherboard bus speed is the > * same as 'CPU speed' without the clock multiplier. The newest >Don't the VIA Apollo chipsets allow you to keep the PCI bus at 33MHz >even when the system bus is running at 75MHz or 83MHz? I don't remember seeing that option on my VP2 (FIC PA-2007) board. It's currently running 75MHz with a 37.5MHz PCI bus. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 15 09:10:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA14263 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from praline.no.neosoft.com (praline.no.NeoSoft.COM [206.27.160.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA14245 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from caj@praline.no.neosoft.com) Received: (qmail 7664 invoked by uid 65524); 15 Dec 1997 17:10:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:10:09 -0600 (CST) From: Craig Johnston To: Allan Alford cc: Tom , Marc Rassbach , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose In-Reply-To: <34946669.73A4@jump.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Allan Alford wrote: > > The way I understand it is this: > > PCI bus speed = 1/2 motherboard bus speed. Motherboard bus speed is the In most current implementations, yes. Actually the PCI bus need not be related to the mobo bus speed in any way, it can be asynchronous. > To my knowledge, Cyrix is the only CPU manufacturer currently active who > can support the 83MHz standard anyway. Because of their new chip, a Huh? Bus speed is meaningless to the CPU. If your chip will run at 83Mhz times whatever multiplier and the motherboard cooperates, there you go. There's no CPU support for bus speed. The CPU doesn't care if it's doing 83 * 2 or 66 * 2.5. Folks are overclocking Intel and AMD chips in the same fashion. I'm running my K5-166 at 83*1.5, BTW. My Matrox Millenium (not II) and Symbios 53c810 both handle the resulting 41.5 Mhz bus speed just fine, for whoever was curious. -Craig From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 16 11:21:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA20998 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:21:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from friko.onet.pl (friko.onet.pl [194.204.188.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20979; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from potok@friko.onet.pl) Received: from psycho.free.box (rap-cen207.opole.tpnet.pl [194.204.146.207]) by friko.onet.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA15164; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:16:47 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:16:31 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ovita Nutricia Poland From: Mariusz Potocki To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is Intel EtherExpress PRO/10 supported ? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have ISA Intel EtherExpress PRO/10 LAN adapters. Is this card supported by FreeBSD ? I run 2.2.1 and can't see driver in LINT. Mariusz "verba volant, scripta manent" From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 16 16:14:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA14223 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:14:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from tibet.stepnet.com ([206.14.120.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA14208 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:14:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: (from ping@localhost) by tibet.stepnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20094 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:13:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199712170013.QAA20094@tibet.stepnet.com> Subject: source for IBMhd? To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:13:52 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can somebody recommand a good source for the IBM DCAS 32160 or DCAS 34330? I am also looking to buy a Tekram DC-390F. Thanks in advance, ping From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 16 21:10:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09028 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (crb.mnsinc.com [206.239.213.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09017 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:10:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from localhost (crb@localhost) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA07127; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:18:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.ChrisBowman.com: crb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:18:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Bowman" To: Ping Mai cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: source for IBMhd? In-Reply-To: <199712170013.QAA20094@tibet.stepnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Ping Mai wrote: >Can somebody recommand a good source for >the IBM DCAS 32160 or DCAS 34330? > >I am also looking to buy a Tekram DC-390F. > >Thanks in advance, >ping www.cmpexpress.com sells the Tekram DC-390F (which I am quite happy with) for $124.81. I have also been fery happy with both the drives you are looking for as I have one of each, and they don't seem to run very hot. I have been very satisfied with their service and prices in the past, they also seem to have the best prices on the drives you were looking for, however their appears to be to different drives with the same DCAS designations as you gave, but with differnt manufacturers part numbers, which are you looking for? 2.10GB SCSI FAST-SCSI2-WIDE 3.5LP 5400RPM DCAS-32160 DTMSTRAY Mfr Part#: 91.AB026.002 CMPExpress.com $300.88 2.10GB SCSI ULTRA-WIDE 3.5LP 5400RPM IBM DCAS-32160 FOR ALTOS Mfr Part#: 91.AB025.002 CMPExpress.com $279.16 4.3GB DCAS-34330 Mfr Part#: 91.AA592.003 CMPExpress.com $325.85 4.30GB SCSI ULTRA-WIDE 3.5LP 5400RPM IBM DCAS-34330 FOR ALTOS Mfr Part#: 91.AB025.003 CMPExpress.com $456.19 I usually search using www.uvision.com and these were the hits I got on what you were looking for, www.CMPExpress.com usually has the best prices. I would be interested if any one finds cheaper prices on these items --------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com My home page From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 16 22:05:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA13526 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:05:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from apollo.netsonic.com (netsonic.com [207.250.84.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA13516 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:05:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adam@netsonic.com) Received: from zeus.netsonic.com (zeus.netsonic.com [207.250.84.25]) by apollo.netsonic.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA23131 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:05:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971217001511.00a14130@207.250.84.2> X-Sender: adam@207.250.84.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:15:14 -0600 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: NetSonic Subject: Speaking of hardware Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone have any recommended hardware vendors. I have used tccomputers and cdw and have been happy.. just looking for alternatives for the servers (Pent Pro 200's and PII 300's) as we are adding a box every six weeks so we should probly find one reliable vendor. Thanks Adam From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 16 23:09:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA17077 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from www2.shoppersnet.com (shoppersnet.com [204.156.152.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA17072 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:09:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from digital@www2.shoppersnet.com) Received: (from digital@localhost) by www2.shoppersnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA23902; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:10:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:10:41 -0800 (PST) From: Howard Lew To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose In-Reply-To: <34955E77.206D@jump.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Allan Alford wrote: > Satoshi Asami wrote: > > > > * From: Allan Alford > > > > * PCI bus speed = 1/2 motherboard bus speed. Motherboard bus speed is the > > * same as 'CPU speed' without the clock multiplier. The newest > > > > Don't the VIA Apollo chipsets allow you to keep the PCI bus at 33MHz > > even when the system bus is running at 75MHz or 83MHz? > > > > Satoshi > I think there was a SIS chipset motherboard by M-tech that allows 75MHz bus clock and 33MHz PCI bus. Otherwise, go with an ALI IV chipset motherboard as they do 33MHz PCI at 83MHz, 30Mhz at 75MHz, and 33MHz at 66MHz. I have one but I am not the overclocking cpu type. :) From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 16 23:10:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA17192 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from MindBender.serv.net (mindbender.serv.net [205.153.153.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA17184 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07172; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:09:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712170709.XAA07172@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Christopher R. Bowman" cc: Ping Mai , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: source for IBMhd? In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 17 Dec 97 00:18:43 -0500. Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:09:30 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Ping Mai wrote: >>Can somebody recommand a good source for >>the IBM DCAS 32160 or DCAS 34330? >www.cmpexpress.com sells the Tekram DC-390F (which I am quite happy [... a bunch of drives deleted...] I just bought a 2GB Quantum Atlas-II 7200rpm Ultra-Wide SCSI drive for $229 from Bason. It's a seriously kick-ass drive, and it's an excellent price. Check out http://www.basoncomputer.com/. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 16 23:21:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA18078 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:21:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from klokan.sh.cvut.cz (root@klokan.sh.cvut.cz [193.84.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA18072 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:21:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from J.Klaus@sh.cvut.cz) Received: from skunk.sh.cvut.cz (skunk.sh.cvut.cz [194.108.141.194]) by klokan.sh.cvut.cz (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA19197 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:19:59 +0100 Received: from SKUNK/SpoolDir by skunk.sh.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 17 Dec 97 08:20:01 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by SKUNK (Mercury 1.31); 17 Dec 97 08:19:32 +0100 Received: from hell.sh.cvut.cz by skunk.sh.cvut.cz (Mercury 1.31); 17 Dec 97 08:19:22 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:13:23 +0100 (CET) Organization: CTU Prague From: Jaroslav Klaus To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: EISA network cards Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id XAA18073 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is it possible to run FreeBSD with EISA cards NE3200 and Intel EtherExpess 100Mb? Jarda From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 16 23:22:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA18114 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:22:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from MindBender.serv.net (mindbender.serv.net [205.153.153.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA18096 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:21:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07285; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:21:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712170721.XAA07285@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: NetSonic cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speaking of hardware In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 17 Dec 97 00:15:14 -0600. <3.0.32.19971217001511.00a14130@207.250.84.2> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:21:45 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Anyone have any recommended hardware vendors. I have used tccomputers and >cdw and have been happy.. just looking for alternatives for the servers >(Pent Pro 200's and PII 300's) as we are adding a box every six weeks so we >should probly find one reliable vendor. I have been very happy with both CDW and Insight for general PC stuff. They're both very highly recommended (by me). Bason is where I usually get hard drives: http://www.basoncomputer.com/. I buy a lot of memory from The Chip Merchant: http://www.thechipmerchant.com/. They also have good prices on CPUs, and sell boxed CPUs if you like a little more warranty and the warm fuzzies that your chip is genuinely marked (though I trust them enough to sell me correctly marked chips unboxed). TC is a good place to go for motherboards, with the limited experience I've had. Do NOT buy from Aberdeen -- they're nice and all, but it takes two months to get service for defective parts, many times. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 00:22:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA22144 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:22:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from MindBender.serv.net (mindbender.serv.net [205.153.153.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA22135 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:22:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07822; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:22:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712170822.AAA07822@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Howard Lew cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 16 Dec 97 23:10:41 -0800. Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:22:14 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > * PCI bus speed = 1/2 motherboard bus speed. Motherboard bus speed is the >> > * same as 'CPU speed' without the clock multiplier. The newest >> > Don't the VIA Apollo chipsets allow you to keep the PCI bus at 33MHz >> > even when the system bus is running at 75MHz or 83MHz? >> > Satoshi >I think there was a SIS chipset motherboard by M-tech that allows 75MHz >bus clock and 33MHz PCI bus. > >Otherwise, go with an ALI IV chipset motherboard as they do 33MHz PCI at >83MHz, 30Mhz at 75MHz, and 33MHz at 66MHz. I have one but I am not the >overclocking cpu type. :) I prefer to stick with 37.5MHz PCI bus (75MHz mem. bus) since all my PCI cards are comfortable with it. :-) Of course, yes, you need to be in the experimenting mind-set before setting out on such a task... FWIW, this is with a FIC PA-2007 (VIA VP2 chipset), which works quite excellently with NetBSD. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 01:44:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA27032 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:44:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca34-53.ix.netcom.com [207.93.143.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA27027 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:44:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/8.6.9) id BAA13401; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:44:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:44:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712170944.BAA13401@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: digital@www2.shoppersnet.com CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Howard Lew on Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:10:41 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: Speed of the cards? was Re: SCSI card to choose From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * From: Howard Lew * > > Don't the VIA Apollo chipsets allow you to keep the PCI bus at 33MHz * > > even when the system bus is running at 75MHz or 83MHz? * > > * > > Satoshi * > * * I think there was a SIS chipset motherboard by M-tech that allows 75MHz * bus clock and 33MHz PCI bus. Ok, I did a little research. I had to install acroread (xpdf doesn't read encrypted pdf, whatever that is), it appears VPX supports asynchronous PCI while VP2 doesn't. Which means, FIC PA-2007/2011 are PCI=CLK/2, while PA-2010* are PCI=33MHz or PCI=CLK/2 (I don't know if they give you the choice). Satoshi From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 02:53:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA00231 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 02:53:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from gorilla.net (zgordial125.gorilla.net [208.128.8.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA00225 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 02:53:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@gorilla.net) Received: (from tom@localhost) by gorilla.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) id EAA00335; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:52:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971217045241.45132@net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:52:41 -0600 From: Tom Jackson To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: test, please ignore Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk yikes From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 03:34:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA02082 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 03:34:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA02064; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 03:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199712171133.DAA02064@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: test, please ignore To: toj@silverback.gorilla.net (Tom Jackson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 03:33:55 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19971217045241.45132@net> from "Tom Jackson" at Dec 17, 97 04:52:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tom Jackson wrote: > > yikes > sending test message to any list but "test@freebsd.org" is an excellent way to get yourself removed from the lists. ;((( you have been unable to send mail to the lists because of your DNS problems. looks like you got them fixed ;)) or we had a problem here at hub.freebsd.org reading your DNS. Dec 17 03:26:03 hub sendmail[1739]: DAA01739: from=, size=0, class=0, pri=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, relay=silverback.gorilla.net [208.128.8.1] Dec 17 03:26:36 hub sendmail[1814]: DAA01814: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=silverback.gorilla.net [208.128.8.1], reject=451 ... Domain does not resolve Dec 17 03:26:36 hub sendmail[1814]: DAA01814: from=, size=0, class=0, pri=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, relay=silverback.gorilla.net [208.128.8.1] at any rate, welcome to the lists! jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 09:30:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA26413 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:30:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (dkelly@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26393 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@fly.HiWAAY.net) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) id LAA32074; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:29:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:29:53 -0600 (CST) From: David Kelly Message-Id: <199712171729.LAA32074@fly.HiWAAY.net> To: crb@ChrisBowman.com, ping@stepnet.com Subject: Re: source for IBMhd? Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christopher R. Bowman writes: > > www.cmpexpress.com sells the Tekram DC-390F (which I am quite happy > with) for $124.81. I have also been fery happy with both the drives > you are looking for as I have one of each, and they don't seem to run > very hot. I have been very satisfied with their service and > prices in the past, they also seem to have the best prices on the drives > you were looking for, however their appears to be to different drives > with the same DCAS designations as you gave, but with differnt > manufacturers part numbers, which are you looking for? [snip] > 4.3GB DCAS-34330 > Mfr Part#: 91.AA592.003 > CMPExpress.com $325.85 Yea, they list the above as being manufactured by "Acer Servers" and its not under SCSI HD's but under their IDE listing. Finer detail claims it is narrow Ultra SCSI. > 4.30GB SCSI ULTRA-WIDE 3.5LP 5400RPM IBM DCAS-34330 FOR ALTOS > Mfr Part#: 91.AB025.003 > CMPExpress.com $456.19 The above price is more inline with what I usually see. Its been said before on these lists, price isn't everything. Ask about the warranty. If they *say* the manufacturer honors the warranty, make the seller state that in writting. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 10:01:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA28313 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:01:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (in-ruhr.ruhr.de [141.39.224.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA28298 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robsch@robkaos.ruhr.de) Received: from robkaos.ruhr.de (admin@localhost) by mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5) with UUCP id SAA20986 for freebsd.org!hardware; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:57:44 +0100 (MET) Received: by robkaos.ruhr.de (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:56:33 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: robsch@robkaos.ruhr.de (Robert Schien) Subject: Are IDE/Atapi CD-ROM changers supported? To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:56:33 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am interested in CD-ROM changers. Normally, I use SCSI drives, but they are somewhat difficult to get here in Germany. What I can get is a CD-ROM changer with IDE/Atapi interface. Do these changers work under FreeBSD (2.2.5 or -current)? TIA Robert From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 16:03:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA28617 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from gw1.asacomputers.com (root@gw1.asacomputers.com [204.69.220.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA28610 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:03:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: by gw1.asacomputers.com id NAA17299; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:02:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971218000004.017fb358@gw1> X-Sender: rajadnya@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:00:04 -0800 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kedar Subject: Cheetah's? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is there anything notice-able about the currecnt batch of Seagate Cheetah's? We seem to be unable to get them to work under FreeBSD. (Frankly, even under just DOS). Basic configuration: Supermicro DLF, PII300, 128MB RAM. Buslogic 958 (tried Adaptec 2940w too) and 4 ST34501W, Cheetahs. DAT(1554), CD. Is there something that we have missed about the Cheetah's recently? Any advice appreciated. Kedar. G'day, Kedar Rajadnya _\\|//_ (-0-0-) -----------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------- This message is being sent via recycled electrons. We sell specialized systems and networking stuff. Want some? Tel:(408)232-5999 ext201 E-mail: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- || || ooO Ooo From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 22:28:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA23589 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:28:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from monk.via.net (monk.via.net [140.174.204.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA23581 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:28:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by monk.via.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id WAA11420 for hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:18:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:18:16 -0800 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199712180618.WAA11420@monk.via.net> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ifconfig hang with fxp board X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just installed a new fxp board in my 2.2.5 system ifconfig fxp0 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. netmask yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy hangs the OS. Even the virtual consoles don't work. Does this board need to be initialized with a vendor utility to set interrupts, etc? thanks joe From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 23:14:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA26436 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:14:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA26431 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:14:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xiZym-000238-00; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:02:44 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:02:43 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Joe McGuckin cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig hang with fxp board In-Reply-To: <199712180618.WAA11420@monk.via.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Joe McGuckin wrote: > I just installed a new fxp board in my 2.2.5 system > > ifconfig fxp0 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. netmask yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy > > hangs the OS. Even the virtual consoles don't work. > Does this board need to be initialized with a vendor utility to set > interrupts, etc? No, your motherboard gives PCI cards IRQs to use. Are you sure the card isn't just DOA? Happens too often these days... Is the card detected during boot? Should show your the IRQ then. > thanks > > joe Tom From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 17 23:51:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA28728 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28716 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:51:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03182; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:53:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712180753.XAA03182@implode.root.com> To: Tom cc: Joe McGuckin , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig hang with fxp board In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:02:43 PST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:53:44 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Joe McGuckin wrote: > >> I just installed a new fxp board in my 2.2.5 system >> >> ifconfig fxp0 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. netmask yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy >> >> hangs the OS. Even the virtual consoles don't work. >> Does this board need to be initialized with a vendor utility to set >> interrupts, etc? > > No, your motherboard gives PCI cards IRQs to use. True, but the motherboard might bogusly assign an IRQ that is in use by a legacy ISA card. The PCI BIOS usually has a machanism for reserving those ISA interrupts so that they aren't wrongly used for PCI cards. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 18 03:56:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA12368 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from tiny.freebsd.dk (tiny.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA12346 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@tiny.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by tiny.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16152; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:47:26 +0100 (CET) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199712181247.NAA16152@tiny.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Are IDE/Atapi CD-ROM changers supported? In-Reply-To: from Robert Schien at "Dec 17, 97 06:56:33 pm" To: robsch@robkaos.ruhr.de (Robert Schien) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:47:24 +0100 (CET) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am interested in CD-ROM changers. Normally, I use SCSI > drives, but they are somewhat difficult to get here in Germany. > What I can get is a CD-ROM changer with IDE/Atapi interface. > Do these changers work under FreeBSD (2.2.5 or -current)? I have commited code to current that does this. It is still VERY much alpha code, and it will eat your changer for lunch if you do mount all CD's and does simultanious reads on them :) I have more finished on my dev machine, but its not ready for full scale use yet. I hope to get time to finish it after newyear.. Søren From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 18 08:36:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA00643 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:36:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from ns1.walls-media.com (ns1.walls-media.com [12.6.113.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA00627 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:36:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryanb@walls-media.com) Received: from ntwksbry ([12.6.113.52]) by ns1.walls-media.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA51 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:35:23 -0600 Message-ID: <006501bd0bd3$0ba0e260$3471060c@ntwksbry.walls-media.com> From: "Bryan Bunch" To: Subject: Compaq Deskpro Intergrated Net Card Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:36:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm new to this list so forgive me if it has already been discussed. Has anyone been able to get the integrated Network card that comes installed in the Deskpro models to work under FreeBSD?? Thanks for any help. Bryan bryanb@walls-media.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 18 09:31:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA05662 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:31:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from mail.jump.net (serv1.jump.net [204.238.120.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA05653 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aa@jump.net) Received: from rat by mail.jump.net (8.8.8/jump.1.11) id LAA14898; Message-ID: <34995D99.5648@jump.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:30:01 -0600 From: Allan Alford X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryan Bunch CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro Intergrated Net Card References: <006501bd0bd3$0ba0e260$3471060c@ntwksbry.walls-media.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bryan Bunch wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm new to this list so forgive me if it has already been discussed. > > Has anyone been able to get the integrated Network card that comes > installed in the Deskpro models to work under FreeBSD?? > > Thanks for any help. > > Bryan > bryanb@walls-media.com The integrated NICs that Compaq uses have traditionally been known standard NICs that are simply built into the motherboard. I haven't kept up with them lately, but they use to rely heavily on Thomas Conrad for their desktop systems. Get in touch with Compaq, and I'll bet you'll find that it's actually a fairly standard NIC in there - maybe even NE2000-compatible. - Allan From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 20 11:58:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA09311 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 11:58:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from didda.est.is (ppp-52.est.is [194.144.208.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA09283; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 11:58:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from totii@est.is) Received: from est.is (didda.est.is [192.168.255.1]) by didda.est.is (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA00924; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:57:48 GMT (envelope-from totii@est.is) Message-ID: <349C233A.957FE1AF@est.is> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:57:46 +0000 From: "Þorður Ivarsson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: HP Shurestore 7100 RW-CD writer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone experience with HP Shurestore 7100 rewriteable CD-rom writer ? -- Þórður Ívarsson Thordur Ivarsson Rafeindavirki Electronic technician Norðurgötu 30 Nordurgotu 30 Box 309 Box 309 602 Akureyri 602 Akureyri Ísland Iceland --------------------------------------------- FreeBSD has good features, Some others are full of unwanted features! --------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 20 13:04:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA14025 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:04:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA14016 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:04:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsampley@best.com) Received: from shell9.ba.best.com (bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com [206.184.139.140]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id NAA04705 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:02:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:02:16 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley X-Sender: bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Has anyone successfully overclocked the above hardware (the MB is rev 3.1 BIOS rev 203)? I'm currently running a P5-233MMX at 266 (3.5X, 75MHz) with an older Adaptec 2940 (BIOS rev 1.16, I think). When I try cranking it up to the 83MHz bus speed (3.0X, 83MHz ~= 250) the SCSI devices wont fly (but my EIDE drives will). This is on FBSD 2.2-stable. I can get a great deal on the NCR controllers from a local supplier ($50 USD for the 810; $100 for the 875) instead of spending $200+ on the Adaptec. I searched the archives. Some people stated the Adaptec 2940UW is worth the extra $$$s and *should* work at the 83MHz bus speed (providing the rest of my hardware can support the higher bus speed). Is the Adaptec really worth the extra $$$? BTW, here's dmesg on my current drives: ahc0 rev 3 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "COMPAQ ST15150N 5216" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors) ahc0: target 1 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:1:0): "SEAGATE ST43400N 1028" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 2777MB (5688447 512 byte sectors) [sniped] wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 1549MB (3173184 sectors), 3148 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd1: 3020MB (6185088 sectors), 6136 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis wcd0: 1378Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 256 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked Thanks in advance. - burton - From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 20 13:48:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16623 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:48:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16613 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:48:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA01660; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:48:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:48:32 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: Burton Sampley cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Burton Sampley wrote: > Has anyone successfully overclocked the above hardware (the MB is rev 3.1 > BIOS rev 203)? Nope, haven't had my hands on one of those motherboards to try. > I can get a great deal on the NCR controllers from a local supplier ($50 > USD for the 810; $100 for the 875) instead of spending $200+ on the > Adaptec. I searched the archives. Some people stated the Adaptec 2940UW > is worth the extra $$$s and *should* work at the 83MHz bus speed > (providing the rest of my hardware can support the higher bus speed). Is > the Adaptec really worth the extra $$$? I have a Tyan MB that I couldn't get to recognize a Tyan SCSI card with the 875 on it. Wasn't a FreeBSD thing, one and a half other operating systems, OS/2 and Win95, couldn't see it either. It wasn't a bad card since I packed it off to Jordan and its doing fine in one of freebsd.org's boxes. ???????? I've been very happy with my 2940UW. > BTW, here's dmesg on my current drives: Looks pretty similar to mine. ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:19 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST31055W 0528" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1010MB (2069860 512 byte sectors) ahc0: target 2 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:2:0): "IBM DCAS-34330W S65A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:2:0): Direct-Access 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:4:0): "CONNER CTT8000-S 1.17" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x45, drive empty (ahc0:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3801TA 0207" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM cd present [300204 x 2048 byte records] wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 1222MB (2503872 sectors), 2484 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd1: 1033MB (2116800 sectors), 2100 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, iordis wcd0: 689Kb/sec, 256Kb cache, audio play, 256 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: medium type unknown, unlocked -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Finger jacko@diamond.xtalwind.net or jack@xtalwind.net http://www.xtalwind.net/~jacko/pubpgp.html #include for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 20 15:53:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA23734 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:53:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from george.lbl.gov (george-2.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA23728 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:53:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.8.8/LBL-ITG) id PAA24144 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:53:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:53:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jin Guojun (ITG staff) Message-Id: <199712202353.PAA24144@george.lbl.gov> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Canon BJC-240 printer Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has any one experimented Canon BJC-240 (Color Bubble Jet) printer in FreeBSD? Is this printer compatible with HP destjet printer? Does gs support this printer? Thanks in advance, -Jin From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 20 16:45:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA26230 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA26218 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:45:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from localhost (dstenn@localhost) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00537 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:44:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:44:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Tenn To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Lexmark Execjet II Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what the printcap settings should be for this printer under FreeBSD? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 20 17:31:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA28237 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:31:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28216 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:31:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.2/nospam) with UUCP id CAA07623 for hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 02:31:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.8/keltia-2.13/nospam) id CAA02653; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 02:09:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19971221020918.41035@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 02:09:18 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Burton Sampley on Sat, Dec 20, 1997 at 01:02:16PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3883 AMD-K6 MMX @ 208 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Burton Sampley: > Has anyone successfully overclocked the above hardware (the MB is rev 3.1 > BIOS rev 203)? I'm currently running a P5-233MMX at 266 (3.5X, 75MHz) with Yes. > an older Adaptec 2940 (BIOS rev 1.16, I think). When I try cranking it up > to the 83MHz bus speed (3.0X, 83MHz ~= 250) the SCSI devices wont fly (but > my EIDE drives will). This is on FBSD 2.2-stable. Funny you're asking, I happen to have: - an ASUS T2P4 rev. 3.1 - two ASUS SCSI cards, one SC-200 (narrow) and one SC-875 (ultra-wide) - one K6-166 I'm running all these (with the addition of a Matrox Millenium) at 2.5x 83 MHz = 208 MHz which all cards seem to support very well. > (providing the rest of my hardware can support the higher bus speed). Is > the Adaptec really worth the extra $$$? Compared to an SC-875, I don't think so. YMMV. Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #19: Tue Dec 9 20:17:10 CET 1997 root@keltia.freenix.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/TNKELTIA CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (208.82-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x561 Stepping=1 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 63193088 (61712K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 15 on pci0.9.0 ncr0: rev 0x03 int a irq 9 on pci0.11.0 scbus0 at ncr0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access sd0: WIDE SCSI (16 bit) enabled sd0: 40.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 15) 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors) sd2 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 sd2: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2: Direct-Access sd2: 20.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 15) 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors) st1 at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 st1: type 1 removable SCSI 2 st1: Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty ncr1: rev 0x12 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.0 scbus1 at ncr1 bus 0 sd11 at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 sd11: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd11: Direct-Access sd11: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 642MB (1316751 512 byte sectors) sd12 at scbus1 target 2 lun 0 sd12: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd12: Direct-Access sd12: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 1030MB (2110812 512 byte sectors) st0 at scbus1 target 5 lun 0 st0: type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0: Sequential-Access st0: 5.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 8) density code 0x13, drive empty cd0 at scbus1 target 6 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM cd0: 1.9 MB/s (525 ns, offset 8) can't get the size -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #19: Tue Dec 9 20:17:10 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 20 18:35:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA01064 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:35:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01053 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:35:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-74.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.74]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15881; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:35:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA14271; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:20:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199712210220.UAA14271@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: jack cc: Burton Sampley , hardware@freebsd.org From: David Kelly Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? In-reply-to: Message from jack of "Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:48:32 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:20:43 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a Tyan MB that I couldn't get to recognize a Tyan SCSI card with > the 875 on it. Wasn't a FreeBSD thing, one and a half other operating > systems, OS/2 and Win95, couldn't see it either. It wasn't a bad card > since I packed it off to Jordan and its doing fine in one of freebsd.org's > boxes. ???????? > > I've been very happy with my 2940UW. Currently I have both, Asus SC875 and Adaptec 2940 in this system: ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:9 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ncr0 rev 3 int a irq 11 on pci0:11 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle The Adaptec is ancient. Came with BIOS 1.10. I downloaded and burned a new 1.16 for it but never noticed any differences. IMHO The One Big Advantage my Adaptec has over my '875 is the Adaptec BIOS has onboard low level format and bad block management/scanning. To do the same with the '875 one has to do DOS. Possibly there is a newer BIOS I can flash into my '875? Is there a package for FreeBSD to prep problem SCSI disks? A disk exerciser and bad-block reporter? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 20 22:54:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA12644 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from bob.tri-lakes.net (BOB.tri-lakes.net [207.3.81.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA12633 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdillon@tri-lakes.net) Received: from [207.3.81.146] by bob.tri-lakes.net (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id oa387882 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:53:51 -0600 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199712210220.UAA14271@nospam.hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:47:19 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: David Kelly Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, Burton Sampley , jack Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 21-Dec-97 David Kelly wrote: >IMHO The One Big Advantage my Adaptec has over my '875 is the Adaptec >BIOS has onboard low level format and bad block management/scanning. To >do the same with the '875 one has to do DOS. Possibly there is a newer >BIOS I can flash into my '875? The Tekram DC390-F (NCR '875 based) card that I recently bought does all of the above, and appears to have full BIOS-based setup routines (never used an Adaptec, so I can't compare). I believe this BIOS version is 2.01, and they have an even newer BIOS in beta. Their web-site has all the information needed to upgrade your existing BIOS, and they have two downloadable packages, one for cards with a flash BIOS, and one for people who can burn their own new ROM's. Assuming your card is made by Tekram, you can easily upgrade. I don't know how they would feel about someone using their BIOS in another card (though it should work perfectly, most likely). --- Chris Dillon --- cdillon@tri-lakes.net --- Powered by FreeBSD, the best operating system on the planet for Intel x86 based computers. ---- (http://www.freebsd.org)